THE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND

Israeli Nightmare Unfolds As Both Egypt And Syria Fall Apart

| January 30, 2013

Israeli Air Force Commander Maj. Gen. Amir Eshel warned Tuesday, Jan. 29, that Syria is falling apart and no one knows what the next day may bring: “War may not break out tomorrow,” he said, “but we stand ready for any eventuality.”

If war is not expected tomorrow, why have Israel’s armed forces, including the air force, been on their highest level of preparedness since Friday, Jan. 25? The Syrian crisis may not technically fit the description of a state of war. However, the violent turbulence in that country may at any time spill over the border into hostilities in some shape or form.

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Gen. El-Sissi reacted to the chaos and lawlessness engulfing Egypt. The government headed by President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood is no longer a functioning administration. They have been reduced to the single task of fighting to hang onto power.

The “no comment” stance on the Syrian civil war, long held by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak is untenable and pointless, especially after the latter cut short an overseas family trip to be flown home in a hurry Saturday.

No one believes the official explanation that the three Iron Dome anti-missile batteries stationed over the weekend in northern Israel – in the sight of many thousands of local dwellers – are there for a preplanned routine test – least of all after a senior Israeli officer told AFP that large Hizballah forces are parked at Bashar Assad’s chemical weapons stores poised ready to seize them.
If this happens, said the officer, “A decision to attack Syria or Lebanon will need to be implemented immediately.”

This is beginning to sound as though the politicians and the generals are not on speaking terms.

Gen. Eshel’s comment came hard upon the grave warning issued earlier Tuesday by Egypt’s army chief Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who is also the defense minister. “The political strife is pushing the state to the brink of collapse,” he said on the sixth day of turbulent protests across the country at the cost of more than 60 lives.

Gen. El-Sissi reacted to the chaos and lawlessness engulfing Egypt. The government headed by President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood is no longer a functioning administration. They have been reduced to the single task of fighting to hang onto power.

None of the forces of law and order – the army, internal security, police – are willing to clash head-on with the opposition protesters rampaging on the streets of the main cities including Cairo.  Some towns have descended into chaos and some outlying areas in this country of 90 million are no longer receiving regular food and water supplies.

The Egyptian defense minister’s warning may be taken two ways:

1.  As a last warning to the Muslim Brotherhood and the opposition on the streets that this is the eleventh hour and if they don’t step back from their confrontation, the military will be forced to seize power to save the country.
2.  Alternatively, that the army will not interfere and will stand aside for now, while warning that a civil war in Egypt would be more extensive and calamitous than the vicious conflict bringing Syria to ruin in the last two years. As the two countries teeter on the brink of catastrophe, Gen. Eshel’s dry forecast of doom correctly noted that no one knows what tomorrow will bring.

However, Israel is coming face to face with its worst fear: being hemmed in by a blazing ring of hopeless conflicts just across its borders: Syria and Lebanon in the north; Egypt in the west and south; and Jordan under threat. source – DEBKA

 

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  1. Concerning the Gog Magog war and the mentioning of the armies to the north. While Syria and Lebanon could represent the kingdoms to the north. I do not believe these events taking place currently are it just yet.

    Reasons being the Gog Magog war seems to give the impression that it is a coordinated effort when it takes place. There is very little coordination in these events. Just chaos so far!!

    However I do believe this is the prelude to it. These events are setting the stage for the future leaders of those said nations to eventually coordinate and its all happening very quickly.

  2. PASTOR LARUE says:

    In Isaiah 19:2 talks about the arab spring another prophecy has been fulfilled. I guess the next one will be Ezekiel 35:14-15 as Isreal will attack Iran and not excluding Psalms 83. Then Isaiah 17:1 Isreal nuclear bomb on Damascus. Then within a short time the Caught away for the dead first and then the living saints to heaven in 1st Thess.4:16-17 and then our bodies being changed so we can live in heaven of 2nd Cor. 15: 52-53 and finally the Tribulation has begun with the war between Isreal and Russia, Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Germany and Libya of Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39!

  3. 1 Thess 4:16-18
    16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

    WHAT ARE THE VERY NEXT 2 VERSES??

    The very next 2 verses tie 1 Thess 4:16-18 to the day of the Lord. You will be here during tribulation.

    Don’t twist the word because you have been taught incorrectly. Search the scriptures please. Do not be ignorant. See if what it is saying is true.

  4. RubyLillian says:

    We had a discussion at work today about what the demise of America will be. My vote was we are going to get nuked. Who is going to do if? I don’t know. The amazing part is the liberal athiest coworker who had no idea what’s up in Israel and thinks America is so much safer under Obama. FASCINATING.

  5. NewMan says:

    Wow!! Yes Ruby its mind boggling that anyone would think that America is safer under obamma.
    New York , i think the enemy to the north will be Russia. And I cant see how those next two verses mean that we will be here for the tribulation. He’s talking about unbelievers that it will be like a thief in the night. Verse 4 chapter 5 says “But you brothers are not in darkness… ” But, my beloved brother I know better than to try to battle you over it. Lol!! Whichever it is I’m ready !!!!

    • Yes NewMan it could be Russia. But it could also be Syria or Lebanon as they are to the north as well. But Russia is the one behind it all anyways sending Iran and the rest of them supplies. Either way Russia is clearly involved.

      Yes NewMan it will not be like a theif to us. I was merely pointing out that 1 Thess: 4:16-18 and the next 2 verses which are 1 Thess 5:1-2 state that the rapture is tied to the day of the Lord.

      I know it wont be like a thief to us because we are watching. Tks Newman.

      • The day of the Lord comes after the tribulation is what I was saying and that is when his wrath comes. So bible is basically saying Jesus comes removes the tares (Matthew 13:37-43 and Matthew 13:30) then gathers us up together with him in the clouds. Then descends down with us and sets his foot on the mount of olives.

  6. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    THE NEXT 2 VERSES ————

    1 Thessalonians 5:1-2
    But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
    2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    So we can see that Paul connected the rapture to the day of the Lord. All you have to do now is figure out when the Day of the Lord comes. We can see when the day of the Lord Comes and it is immediately after the tribulation of those days stated by Jesus in Matthew 24:29 it is also tied with the signs in the sun, moon, stars.

    Some say that 1 Thess 5:1-2 is a new chapter so he is not still talking about the rapture in 1 Thess 4:16-18 but that is wrong cause Paul also mentions the day of the Lord or day of Christ again in 2 Thess 2:1-2 in the same chapter and in the same verses. So Paul specifically went out of his way to mention twice that the rapture happens at the day of the Lord. When you go and read this for yourself you will see everything in the bible lines up perfectly with this.

    But Paul also ties the rapture to the day of the Lord in

    2 Thessalonians 2: 1-2
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (same as day of the Lord) is at hand.

    So we can see TWICE in two separate occasions that Paul specifically says the rapture comes at the day of the Lord or day of Christ, same thing.

    The day of the Lord or Day of Christ. Comes immediately after the tribulation at the last trump after the signs in sun, moon and stars. You will see what I have just laid out matches up with all the bible verses on the rapture perfectly.

  7. The day of the Lord also brings the Lords wrath. We can see we are spared his wrath cause we are raptured to the clouds with him. So yes we are spared from the Lords wrath but not the tribulation. :) That is extremely clear, I hope people read it carefully for themselves.

  8. Debra says:

    Amen! New York! I hope many of them who think they will be raptured before the last trumpet figure out the truth before they are left to make a decision whether to take the mark or not. I’m glad the Lord showed me through his word before it all takes place! He showed me that we will be here to be tested whether we will hold to our faith in Christ or give in to live only to end up in hell if we take the mark and reject our faith in Jesus! He showed me it is like what the early Christians had to go through as they were fed to lions, stoned, boiled, put on fire, etc… If the Lord said the latter church will be greater than the early church, I can’t see us greater if our faith isn’t tested like their’s was! A whimpy church that just hopes to fly out of persecution without being tested and thinks they will be greater, they are sadly mistaken! God’s word says, blessed are those who die in the Lord, not those who escape in the Lord! I’m surprised that with all the scriptures you have given that people still oppose you and the truth of what the word is saying. It doesn’t take a man with a phd to figure out what is being said!!! Please don’t stop fighting the good fight for the truth my Brother!!! Shalom!

    • RubyLillian says:

      Did anyone watch End Times Ministry..Irving Baxter last night? Part one was on. He broke down scriptures and with great detail began explaining the rapture. I recorded it to refer back too. He is airing two more segments. Watch them….great show.

    • Its not that they don’t or can’t understand. Its they are in shock and refusing to believe what they were taught was wrong. Once they calm down some they will read it for themselves.

      When they actually sit down and read the actual verses. The spirit will come to them and will show them truth.

      The problem is they haven’t yet sat down and tried to read and discern the truth. Again we are messing with their belief system. First comes anger, then resentment, then confusion, then they pray, then they will read it and find out for themselves.

      Some never get past the anger part as how dare you tell me different then what my pastor or preacher has told me. How dare you tell me my pastor is wrong he is with God.

      The sad part is most pastors and preachers do not even realize they are not with God.

      Remember when Jesus was here he got angry at the pastors and preachers no one else. Mostly cause they new better and were so stubborn.

      The key is to not be stubborn and to be humble and say let me see if what this person is saying is true. When you actually get to that point you will search. The spirit immediately comes to you because now you are making an effort on your own and you need no one else to tell you anything as he will guide you.

      So anger and resentment is the first stage. I can see that barrier coming down some now though. Soon they will investigate. Very soon :)

  9. RubyLillian says:

    Irving Baxter explained his transformation from pre trib to post. He preached pre for many years. He questioned how many might be tricked into taking the mark of the beast because they don’t recognize it as such because the rapture has not occurred.

  10. RubyLillian says:

    Out of love I fear for the pre tribs and the calamity they may suffer as they unexpectedly enter the tribulation.

    • I don’t believe I can break it down any more clearly for them Ruby. Is what I have written here in these comments crystal clear and line up exactly with the scriptures? I can only lead them to truth it will be up to them to read it match it up and discern it for themselves. I realize its is extremely difficult for people to do this as no one likes to be told they are wrong. But again these aren’t my words these are the words of the BIBLE Gods true words.

  11. Reginald says:

    Brother New York; Please within the context of the message from our blessed Lord Jesus Christ,to apostle John,to deliver this message to the church in Philadelphia,in the book of Revelation 3:7-13;

    And to the Angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith He is holy, He that is true, HE THAT HATH THE KEY OF DAVID,HE THAT OPENETH, AND NO MAN SHUTTETH; AND SHUTTETH, AND NO MAN OPENETH;

    8 I know thy works: behold,I have set before thee an open door,and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength,and has kept my word, and has not denied my name.

    9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet,and to know that I have loved thee.

    10 Because thou has kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall try them that dwell upon the earth..

    11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown….12-13

    In verse 10; The Lord promised the Philadelphia brethren of ” I will keep thee from the hour of temptation,which shall come upon all that dwell upon the earth”

    The phrase ” Keep from” is used to convey,an impression of being taken out from something not pleasant. To “keep from” could be rendered,a promise by Christ to believers FROM THE HOUR OF TRIAL, is most likely a promise He would remove them before the period of unparalleled tribulation, or THE GREAT TRIBULATION, or TIME OF JACOB’S TROUBLE,which the LORD shall deliver him.

    Therefore, if the LORD promised the faithful brethren of taken them out of harm way from the time of unparalleled tribulation that the world has ever known,nor shall be again,why are you saying otherwise?
    Please I am ready to learn,as I believe,that through the scriptures,if it can be demonstrated clearly and unambiguously otherwise what is clearly stated,then I accept. But I do not know where to place my finger on your submission,and would like you to do this clearly unambiguously.

    Sincerely in Him,

    Reginald.

    • That is very easy to understand Reginald.

      Firstly we are not to assume anything means anything in the Lords writing or words. Here we are assuming that hour of temptation is the tribulation. We should not do that. We should see what it means. So lets look and see.

      Revelation 3:10
      Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

      If you look you will see that he is speaking of “them that dwell on earth”

      WHO IS “THEM THAT DWELL ON EARTH”??

      Well everywhere in the book of revelations that the term
      “them that dwell on earth” is located we see that it is specifically talking about those against God.

      I will list all the verses so you can look it up but I am only posting 2 in this comment.

      Revelation 6:10, 8:13, 11:10, 13:8, 13:12, 13:14 (twice), 17:2, 17:8.

      2 of those verses typed out for you:

      Revelation 6:10
      And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

      Revelation 13:12
      And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

      those that dwell on earth are mentioned 9 times in book of revelation and every time it revers to evil people, satan worshippers, those against God.

      Based on this we can see that the term hour of temptation means the Lords Wrath

      Again we will be kept from the Lords Wrath. The tribulation is not the Lords wrath.

    • So you can see Reginald I have explained it all within context perfectly for you to see. It is up to you to read it and discern and not hold onto what you assumed or what you have been taught incorrectly.

  12. R.Koch says:

    Lets All Pray for this Situation. Especially for Israel. Pray GOD will intervene in this situation. Amen,

  13. Reginald says:

    New York!

    Clearly you are fixed on post tribulation,for me I stand where the scriptures stands,not on anyone’s teachings,pastors or preachers,as they are men and as fallible like anyone else.

    My recommendation to you and any one else,is humility to accept what challenges the LORD demands from anyone of us. Be it by pre-tribulation, mid tribulation,and post-tribulation,we should be willing to suffer and die for the Faith that was once delivered. If the Lord says,no Sam,I taking you out from the unparalleled tribulation,fantastic,but if says otherwise,that one has to give his life for his faith,that is also awesome,as He who permits this,will not leave His own without the grace and means to go through. When the three Hebrew children,who defied king Nebuchadnezz decree,and was thrown into the furnace of fire,did He not meet His servant in the midst of the furnace? When Prophet Daniel,was thrown into the Den of the Lions,did He not sent His angel to shut the Lions mouth.

    Furthermore, Eunuch was not,for he was translated and did not suffer corruption,Prophet Elijah went to heaven in a chariot of fire. I believe both scenario is possible,what I believe,the Lord is seeking from us is the willingness to lay our lives down if we are called upon to do so. But as He promised in Rev.3:10; I do not see post tribulation rapture,as it makes no sense to Me,in the light of Christ promise to the church in Philadelphia Rev.3:10 ” Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation or trial, which shall try them that dwell upon the earth” I believe the Lord Jesus Christ! I do not believe any pastor,or preacher,or someone else trying out a spiritual gymnastic somersault on the clear written word of God.

    • Ok see you haven’t tried to read or discern the scriptures. You are taking it personal and not reading and discerning for yourself at all.

      Now your going to hold true to your false doctrine because you have no more argument. So now your just being ignorant rather then reading what I laid out for you directly from the scriptures.

      Again it will be up to you to humble yourself and ask the Lord for truth. If you actually read what I laid out for you and match it up to the scriptures you will see the truth. I do not need recommendations from you as my recommendations come from the scriptures for me.

      I have taken the time to politely explain clearly what the scriptures say. Again the rest is up to you.

      I do not believe you are ignorant but I highly recommend you do not become ignorant on this and you seek the scriptures and see for yourself with the help of the Holy Spirit. :)

      The bible on ignorance

      2 Peter 3:16
      He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

    • Revelation 3:10 very easy to understand Reginald.

      Firstly we are not to assume anything means anything in the Lords writing or words. Here we are assuming that hour of temptation is the tribulation. We should not do that. We should see what it means. So lets look and see.

      Revelation 3:10
      Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

      If you look you will see that he is speaking of “them that dwell on earth”

      WHO IS “THEM THAT DWELL ON EARTH”??

      Well everywhere in the book of revelations that the term
      “them that dwell on earth” is located we see that it is specifically talking about those against God.

      I will list all the verses so you can look it up but I am only posting 2 in this comment.

      Revelation 6:10, 8:13, 11:10, 13:8, 13:12, 13:14 (twice), 17:2, 17:8.

      2 of those verses typed out for you:

      Revelation 6:10
      And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

      Revelation 13:12
      And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell thereinto worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

      those that dwell on earth are mentioned 9 times in book of revelation and every time it revers to evil people, satan worshippers, those against God.

      Based on this we can see that the terms “hour of temptation” and “shall try” means the Lords Wrath
      Again we will be kept from the Lords Wrath. The tribulation is not the Lords wrath.

      The bible is clear and very simple to understand and according to the bible you only need two to three witnesses to verify truth.

      I have given you 9 verses (witnesses) to verify this truth with showing you exactly who “those that dwell on earth” are referring to. Which helps you to understand the terms “hour of temptation” and “try”. The bible is clear that it is referring to the wrath of God and not the great tribulation. Again yes we are spared from Gods wrath but we are here for the tribulation.

  14. Reginald We can also see in Revelation 6:9-11 that people that were killed are crying out to God to judge those that dwell on earth and the Lord gives them white robes and tells that to wait a little longer because there are still brethren and fellow servants left on earth that have yet to be killed for things to be fulfilled.

    Revelations 6:9-11
    9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

    10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

    11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

    So you see there are still people here on earth during the tribulation faithful servants of the Lord. We also see that this takes place at the 6th seal and there are still faithful servants on earth to be killed.

  15. Reginald says:

    Dear New York,

    Sorry to return back to you again! What is the difference between the Great Tribulation or Time of Jacob of Jacob’s trouble and Hour of temptation or the Day of the Lord? Are they different and separate events? If they are two different things,which one comes before the other? And where are we currently? What is your take on Christians in the middle east who have been brutally cut down,also in Africa,Asia,all over the world,what do you make of this times of world wide persecutions and slaughter of our brethren worldwide by Islam? Is this different Tribulation and the day of the Lord or Trial that shall try them that dwell upon the earth.
    Even during the day of the Lord,the one hundred and forty four thousand Jewish men that the Lord will use to bring the everlasting gospel to them that dwell upon the earth,that souls will be saved,and as a consequence,will be martyred and slain for their refusal to take the mark of the beast or worship his image. These are called Tribulation saints, Rev.6:9-10; And when he had opened the fifth seal,I saw under the alter the souls of them that were slain for the word of God,and for their testimony which they held, And they cried out with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

    And a white robes were given unto everyone one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest for a little while or season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren,that should be killed as they were,should be fulfilled.

    New York,you submitted above,

    ” that those that dwell on earth are mentioned 9 times in the book of revelation,and every time it refers to evil people,Satan worshipers, those that are against God. Based on this we can see the term hour of temptation means the Lord’s wrath”

    New York,if your submission that the entire inhabitants of the earth,are all against God, how come in Rev.6:11; and white robes were given unto everyone one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest a little while or season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren,that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled”

    This contradict your submission that all the inhabitants of the earth are all against God. And if they were all against God,from where comes these fellow servants also and their brethren,that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled?

    I think as Christians we should be extremely careful,in being over confident that we know it all,and dismiss other brethren in our sweeping comments of having all the answers as to the matter that is unfolding before our eyes. Lets be gracious,generous,and kind to one another,and preferring others before ourselves. I do not claim to have known it all,but what I believe,is the Lord Jesus Christ He knows and understands,and if we trust Him and holds on to Him,we shall be at home with Him.

    Shalom to you all who love His coming.

    Sincerely,

    Reginald.

  16. I do not mind discussing any of this Reginald. I actually enjoy discussing it greatly. I love sharing. spreading, learning and teaching Gods word.

    The great tribulation is brought about by man falling away towards from God towards satan. So the great tribulation is satans wrath called great tribulation upon Gods people.

    Gods WRATH which comes on the day of the Lord is wrath upon satans people, satans worshippers or those who did not choose to be with God.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3
    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come the falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Now for the full verses tied together.

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (DAY OF THE LORD), and by our gathering together unto him (RAPTURE),

    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (DAY OF THE LORD) is at hand.

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin (ANTICHRIST) be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Thank you for asking and I really do love discussing the scriptures.

  17. Yes the great tribulation will be greater then anything the world has ever seen. It will be greater then the Holocaust. The bible says it will be greater then anything the world has ever seen.

    It is referred to by Daniel as a 3 and 1/2 year period and it starts when the antichrist causes the abomination of desolation. Words the bible uses to describe it as a 3 and 1/2 year period are ” times, time and half a time”, “1260 days”, “42 months”. All equaling 3 and 1/2 years

  18. Reginald says:

    New York,

    Please I do not know what I said,that implies a personal attack on you. You made submission on your understanding as to the pre-tribulation,post-tribulation,and your stand,also you were critical of pastors and preachers who has got it wrong,and the anger,and resentments that would come as a disappointments to those who believe in pre-tribulation rapture. These were personal attacks on brethren,but for me to politely take you to task you suddenly becomes defensive,and critical that I was going personal on you. Please I would like you to cut and paste my comment,where I was personal. And if there is none,please post apology. I was gracious and generous to you,in stating that let us be humble,and not over confident that we have all the answers,instead let us hold on to Christ and His word and we will be safely home. I have not said any thing wrong, New York.

    • I said people who are directed towards Gods true word get angry at us who direct them so especially if it contradicts what they were taugh. No where did I attack anyone. I stated the facts. People get angry with me for pointing out the truth. The first reaction from people is anger 9 times out of 10. I haven’t attacked anyone just stated facts.

    • Your twisting things around now and clearly are not here to learn and now your going to try to twist what I said and say I have attacked people.

      Its ok people can read and discern exactly what I said above. I do not owe anyone an apology for anything. I stated facts. People get angry when proven wrong. Only truth.

  19. I never submitted that all the inhabitants of the earth are against God. You misunderstand. No where did I say all the inhabitants are against God.

    I said the term “those that dwell on earth” are referred to in the book of Revelations in the bible as those that are against God.

    I didn’t say everyone on earth is against God the bible clearly with the term “those that dwell on earth” is referring to satans people.

    Gods people are still on earth mixed with them as we see in the verses in Revelation 6:9-11.

  20. Reginald says:

    New York: accusation in the below statement astonishing!

    “Ok see you haven’t tried to read or discern the scriptures. You are taking it personal and not reading and discerning for yourself at all. Now your going to hold true to your false doctrine,because you have no more argument. So you just being ignorant rather than reading what I had laid out for you directly from the scriptures……”

    New York, I copied and pasted this comment,that any object person who reads your personal insult on myself,will tell you that you need to apologise.

    You charged that I have not tried to read or discern the scriptures is false. That is a lie. You charges of ”going to hold true to your false doctrine,because you have no more argument, is supposedly imply that your doctrine is true,and others are false. This is pride Mr New York! And I urge you as the scriptures stated,that we should not become proud and self conceited,and arrogant. I recommend this scripture which, Paul stated in Roman 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly,according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

    I recommend to you New York,that if you still retain any true spirit of humility in respect of how God hath dealt to every man,the measure of faith, you have acted contrary to the spirit of this admonition. And I urge you to accept you have wronged me.

    Regards.

    Reginald.

    • Correct I asked you to not be ignorant is there anything wrong with asking someone to not be ignorant and go and look things up for themselves?? No there isn’t ! Ty

    • You seem to have problems interpreting everything that is typed or said to you all together. lol There is no help for that. So it is not about what I said at all. It is about your problem that you created based on your interpretation.

      When someone interprets something incorrectly it is not the persons fault that wrote what was interpreted incorrectly. IT IS THE FAULT OF THE PERSON WHO INTERPRETED IT INCORRECTLY.

      So you see you are your own problem through your interpretations. However this can easily be fixed if you slow down and read what was written.

  21. To help better explain what the bible is saying by the term “those that dwell on earth” in the book of Revelations.

    In Revelations “those that dwell on earth” are clearly referred to as satans people. Where else can we find comparisons to this in scriptures?

    John 12:25
    He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal

    Those that love the things of this world will be and are for the things of satan. Therefore they are satans people. Same as those that dwell on earth.

  22. You seem to have problems interpreting everything that is typed or said to you all together. lol There is no help for that. So it is not about what I said at all. It is about your problem that you created based on your interpretation.

    When someone interprets something incorrectly it is not the persons fault that wrote what was interpreted incorrectly. IT IS THE FAULT OF THE PERSON WHO INTERPRETED IT INCORRECTLY. So you see you are your own problem through your interpretations. However this can easily be fixed if you slow down and read what was written.

  23. Reginald says:

    Sorry and good bye!

    • Bo says:

      Well done Reginald. I am new to the faith. But what I have read and studied, it will be a Pre-Trib. I’ve been writing things down as I read to contradict NY on this but now I don’t have to bother. You said it all. I want to pray for NY and everyone else that…get right with God. Whenever it happens have the base of faith in the Gospel. God won’t care if it’s Pre or Mid or whenever if your heart is right. Reginald, I hope you receive my comment. Because, as a new believer I would like to know how you have received your strength in your conviction. God Bless to everyone. Keep believing in 1 Corinthians 15:3,4. with all of your heart.
      READ IT. BELIEVE IT. SHARE IT. LIVE IT.

      Thanks Reginald.

      • You said it yourself Bo. I am here to give Gods true word. As I am everywhere I go.

        You are spending your time trying to contradict New York instead of searching scriptures to see what it actually says.

        To do that you have to be humble first and seek the truth with God not against God. Its up to you.

  24. As far as the bible on the rapture and it not being a salvation issue.

    It absolutely is a salvation issue. Here is why:

    The bible is crystal clear on very many things. One of the main things throughout the bible it is clear on is that you must believe in Jesus Christ for salvation.

    1 John 5:12
    He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life

    Matthew 12:30
    He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

    Luke 11:23
    He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathers not with me scatters.

    In order to have the son (Jesus) you must confess with your mouth and believe in your heart (love him).

    Romans 10:9
    That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.

    John 14:23-24
    Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

    Just the same as the bible says you should not call anyone father. Yet the Catholics called their priests father.

    Matthew 23:9
    And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, who is in heaven.

    So again the bible is crystal clear on what you are to do with Gods word. You are to keep his words if you love him. So you can’t say you have Jesus and spend your life trying to contradict his word just because someone taught you something against Gods word. This is the same thing the Jews did when Jesus came. They crucified him.

    The bible is crystal clear. Your either for or against. There is no in between.

    The bible is crystal clear you must have the son to have life.

    The bible is crystal clear you must confess with your mouth and love Jesus in your heart for salvation.

    The bible is crystal clear if Jesus is in your heart you will keep his word.

    See I have no problems discerning Gods word. These are not my words these are Gods words. I do not judge anyone. Gods word speaks for itself. I spread the word. Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Amen.

    Also the bible is not a book of confusion. Anyone can discern the bibles words without any help by earnestly seeking the truth. The holy spirit will come to them when they do so.

    Again thank you Jesus for allowing me to share your words. Amen.

  25. Ezekiel 33:6
    But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not
    the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword
    come, and take any person from among them, he is taken
    away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the
    watchman’s hand.

    I will continue to blow that trumpet :)

  26. How amazing are the Word Changers. They will destroy anyone who does not buy the lie they are selling then when you show them truth they then turn around and say it doesn’t matter.

    Jesus said it is the TRUTH that sets you free so what would believing lies get someone. Sounds to me like it would bring a man into bondage. The Truth Twisters add too, take away any scriptures they don’t like and then hate all who defend God;s Word. Flesh always takes the side of the LIES.

    Unfortunately the truth twisters are dragging a ton of people down with them this time. For when people begin to realize that everything is a lie cause they have not been raptured their faith in Christ and Christianity will be extremely week when the enemy (satan) is at his strongest. FOR GODS SAKES READ YOUR BIBLES PEOPLE I AM BEGGING YOU READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!! I bring you the truth right out of the scriptures. I am enraged at these people who are leading you down this path. I will fight them.

  27. MJ says:

    You know, I am confused about all of this.
    Israel does not even protect its own citizens from attacks from the palis but attacked Syria?
    I just do NOT get anything anymore.

    Take the Fogel family. They were MURDERED by an Arab and that was allowed to just happen.

    I just dont get it all.

  28. Did you ever think about how many millions and millions of people believe in pre-tribulation theory. It is the exact opposite of what the bible teaches.

    Every mega church believes in pre trib, this constitutes billions of followers for the same teaching. The bible states in the last days that people would do just this.

    They would chose to hear what they wanted to hear, rather then what the Lord has said.

    There are many today that are so flesh lived and flesh minded that they are never content to learn what God has said. They will search until they find some way of making Gods word appear to say what their flesh wants it to say.

    2 Timothy 4:3-4
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    O what a tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.

    They can read about the millions of martyrs who have given their lives rather then betray their faith and love for God all throughout the bible. How pre-tribulation believers get from there to believing themselves to be more special then those who actually love God more then their own lives I will never know.

    They refuse to believe this kind of sacrifice could ever be necessary for them. So they simply pull a verse completely out of context to prove this. Rather then starting out with looking for Gods answer. They start out with the answer their flesh wants to hear.

    What is even more amazing is these people not only think they are more special then those that preceded them in persecution, but these people think they will be partying hard in heaven while millions of people suffer here on earth.

    Gods real opinion and warning to people who change and twist his word.

    Revelations 22:18-19
    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    We are told we would have to suffer for Christs sake!

    Philippians 1:29
    For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

    Acts 5:41
    And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.

    All these people living in the USA today constitute the RICH. That is right, out of the entire worlds population everyone in the USA is a rich person. VERY FEW OF THEM WOULD GIVE UP EVERYTHING TO WALK WITH GOD.

    This explains today’s mega churches that great multitudes that believe in anything, can not be wrong.
    Because so many people believe they can not be wrong.

    Matthew 24:12
    And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold.

    While these people are watching for the rapture they will not be watching for the antichrist or any of the other warnings and signs God specifically told us would happen before the rapture. They are causing others to do this as well. A VERY DANGEROUS PATH.

    They search the scriptures NOT to find out what it says, but they search until they find some way of making Gods word appear to say what their flesh wants it to say. PRAISE THE LORD IT SAYS WE ARE MORE SPECIAL THEN EVERYONE ELSE BEFORE AND AFTER US!!! THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE!!! This is a very dangerous mind set and theology that goes completely against the scriptures.

    Matthew 7:22
    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out demons? and in your name done many wonderful works?

    Does that above verse not sound like people who think they are special since they will be raptured before anyone else and not have to suffer for Christ? Which again is not what the bible says.

    Matthew 5:5
    Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
    Does it sound like people who think they are special are meek?

    Again the bible says specifically it has been given unto us to suffer. That is extremely clear.

    Philippians 1:29
    For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

    The mass multitudes (majority) is pre tribulation believers. Again this fulfills prophecy. Many will not make it to heaven.

    I pray they wake up to reason and listen and search the scriptures humbly and meekly seeking for what God has said and not for what their flesh wants to hear. Thank you Jesus for allowing me to share this message. Amen.

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