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‘World’s Worst Tornado’ Came ONE DAY After OK Began Gay Pride Week Parade

| May 21, 2013

As in the days of Lot

Jesus says in Luke 17, that in the end of time life would be like it was in the days of Lot. Here is what He said:

“Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.” Luke 17:28,29

What was the main thing going on in the “days of Lot”? Openly promoted and accepted homosexuality and all manners of perversions. The name for a homosexual, a sodomite, comes from the city of Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus said that the last days – our time – would be like Lot’s time in Sodom. Please keep the events of the past few days in Oklahoma in your mind as you read this warning from the Lord Himself regarding homosexuality. And remember this: when God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for their sins, everyone there died. Women, children, the aged, the blind, all the heterosexuals - everyone died. Here is how Sodom ended:

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“And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.” Genesis 19:28

Our hearts are broken for the horrific loss of life in Oklahoma. It is our deepest hope and prayer that America, as a nation, will repent of our wickedness before the Holy God of Israel destroys our entire country.

Related Story: Homosexuality and the Bible

From PPS: Another striking coincidence … or something else? While we are deeply saddened by the horrific loss of life and the destruction of families and community in Moore, Oklahoma – it is also a fact that just one day before the worst tornado in the history of the planet strikes Oklahoma – Gay Pride Week is announced to begin on the Lord’s Day – Sunday at 4:00 pm.

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From the official OK Gay Pride Parade website: it started EXACTLY one day before the tornadoes….

This particular Sunday also happened to be the day of Pentecost for 2013 – the birthday of the Church of Jesus. For those who know the Word of God – this seems like an ominous connection. We are simply pointing out the correlation. Our prayers are with the dear people of Moore. source – PPSimmons

GAY PRIDE WEEK WEBSITE: click to visit
The website proclaims: - 2013 Gay Pride Week Parade – Starts SUNDAY at 4:00 P.M.
The next day: – the worst tornado in the history of the planet strikes Oklahoma.

You do the math….may the Lord God have MERCY on us all…please ask the Lord Jesus Christ to save you while you still have time.

EDITOR’S NOTE: My own brother, who I love to this day with all my heart, was a homosexual before he died in 1988. We here at NTEB love the LGBT people, and seek very much to see them saved and come to repentance before the Lord Jesus Christ. Please listen to our radio program entitled Leading The LGBT To Jesus….thank you.

 

About the Author:

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he hosts a twice-weekly bible study and prophecy radio show on BlogTalk Radio, and oversees a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
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  1. Becky says:

    God is Angry

    • suez says:

      Yes he is!! But it is sad innocent children have to suffer for the sins of EVIL people. I wish the Lord would have dropped that tornado on the White House instead!! :-)

    • Mariah says:

      His Cup is FULL!!!

    • Charly says:

      God is heartbroken, not angry…wrath is to come. If the events are related (which I believe they are in some way), the cause/effect is curse related…not God retaliating. The only thing keeping the entire planet from “Biblical” storms daily is the Holy Spirit and the Blessing (covering) that the Blood has restored. These events nullify that protection, and the curse is strengthened.

    • Mr. Gee says:

      Alex Jones said it was Obama’s weather changing machines. You’re telling me it was caused by an invisible and homophobic sky-wizard who did it to teach gays a lesson. Scientists are pointing to climate change. hmmm…I wonder who I should trust.

    • HI This is my first blog,
      Anyone who doubts it is the wrath of God. Its only a warning. Check out the coincudences of hurricaines in New Orleans and the festival times …3 gay Mardi Gras and voodoo nusic festival before hurricaine . And of Course it was repeated exactly same day 7 years later and when 90% of Haitians confess voodoo as their religion.. HAITI Website what a coincidence again the hurricaine just keeps taking them out..What a coincidence again the Hurricaine made a Beeline for New Jersey just befire big Halloween Celebration .

      Check out the New Orleans Website of all the mockung God festvals .Dirty White Linen Parade.. The Herodias PLay… at the same time as CatastrophesThe rise of Homosexuality Gay Marriage Overflows Gods Anger
      .I wonder again about Christ Church New Zealand and their Gay Acceptance How many earth quakes are they having
      .Judgement begins at The House Of God… Christ Church. Until I read your article couldnt find a reason for it as Gay Marriage is not Legal Yet in in OK.
      Australia has been spared so far we dont have huge natural disasters we can change that just untrduce Gay Marriage. If we could see it ALL as HE DOES we would see the link and like the editor said Sodom and Gommorah is here.This is Just the beginning. I had a dream 20 years ago of waking up and reading the newspaper everyday and seeing EARTHQUAKES EVERYDAY. LETS Hope and Pray we get out if it early brethren but uf we dont lets prepare.
      IT IS TIME TO GET CLOSE TO JESUS>DONT TRUST IN THE RAPTURE TRUST IN HIM TO TAKE YOU THROUGH .HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END SHALL BE SAVED Matt 2413 JESUS SAID AND IN MATTHEW 24v19 Immediately AFTER The Tribulation Of those days and THE Rapture IN v31 .DONNOT HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY Brethren LEST YOU BE CAUGHT IN THE EVIL DAYS UNAWARE GOD BLESS brother Mike OH and for those who dont know who is the Anti Christ .JESUS said his English name in Hebrew when referrring to satan and again the Bible mentions his name in ISAIH in the scripture referring to Lucifer. 3 websites Prove it Oh yes he is called God Lord and Messiah and can forgive sins according to 50000. 3 Websites Brethren yOU TUBE …..OMG IS OBAMA THE ANTICHRIST PROOF ………BARACK BIBLE NUMBER CODES by decoder 4397……..SON OF PERDITION PART 2 Johnathan Kleck………NAME NUMBER AND CHARACTER ALL CONFURMED 100% THE END IS NEAR COME LORD JESUS!!!!

      • Kat says:

        Did you homeschool? Seriously. You sound like a complete idiot.

        • watchman48 says:

          I think something like that was said of all the true prophets of God. The true idiots were those that refused to listen to God’s warnings…
          You whose desires is to follow the crowd are not only bringing the curse upon your state but also upon your own families. God has made His judgment clear to those that seek His heart and America is curse for her acceptance of the agendas of homosexuality, abortion and the rejection of Christ.

          To read God’s judgment for America; Google: “The Message For America, Hand of Help Ministries.” To read how I was led to this; Google: ” Watchman On The Wall, America ~ Mystery Babylon? ” To read the message of the 2nd major terrorist attack; Google; “The Eagle and the Serpents, Hand of Help Ministries.” And for where I believe the location of the 2nd attack will be; Google: “Watchman On The Wall, The Eagle and the Serpents (Part 2).”

          The curse on Sodom and Gomorrah stands for all eternity… and any person, city, state, or nation who follows their path of depravity will follow in their destiny.
          Tomorrow is not promised to anyone… today is the day for salvation…. Open the Bible to the Book of John, read, pray and believe that He is who He says He is.

          He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind.” 1 Samuel 15:29

  2. S. Klein says:

    Because we do not have a prophet of God in our day, much of this is speculation. I am sure most believers do speculate why God does or allows judgments to happen. After the 9/11/2001 jihad attacks for example, I wondered why the Almighty would allow such terrible atrocities to be visited on America during the first term of a self-professed Christian / Republican president who I voted for.

    Many blamed former President Bill Clinton. Others invoked Psalm chapter 127:

    “Unless the LORD builds the house,
    They labor in vain who build it;
    Unless the LORD guards the city,
    The watchman keeps awake in vain.

    Only days following the 9/11 attacks, early October 2001, Bush became the first American president to make the establishment of a Muslim (enemy) state in Israel’s heartland a “formal goal of U.S. policy.” Does anyone remember Prime Minister’s Sharon’s Munich warning to Bush?

    ”Don’t repeat the terrible mistakes of 1938, when the enlightened democracies in Europe decided to sacrifice Czechoslovakia for a comfortable, temporary solution…Israel will not be Czechoslovakia.”

    We came to find out later, President Bush cut a secret deal in late August 2001 with (then) Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz to announce a vision for a Palestinian state in Israel. The Saudi-backed (al-Qaeda is a Saudi proxy) attacks in New York and Washington delayed Bush’s announcement by a few weeks. After that Bush applied heavy pressure on Israel to withdraw from land she took possession of in the 1967 Six Day War, in order to appease President Bush’s Muslim-Arab allies in his war against “terrorism.”

    Did it go unnoticed on the part of believers that Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast only hours following the forcible uprooting of thousands of Jews from Gush Katif, Gaza? There were those who blamed it on homosexuality and other sins in New Orleans. Again, this is speculation.

    One believer who does connect God’s judgments on attempts (by nations) to divide God’s land is Bill Koenig:

    http://www.amazon.com/Eye-Facing-Consequences-Dividing-Israel/dp/0971734704

  3. Erlene says:

    On the W.H. would have seemed more appropriate to us, but His ways are not our ways, and His thoughts are high above ours.
    We need more prayer and repentance for the nation as was
    Daniel’s prayer in chapter 10.

  4. Juni says:

    I understand that God may be bringing judgement on America, especially because of the homosexuality, but I dont understand why the innocent would die including children, that doesnt seem right. In this instance I am going to disagree and say that we live in a fallen world, incl weather patterns and this was a freak tornado which happened to cause a lot of devestation and loss of life.

    • Juni: Why does innocent people and children die in war?

      If everyone would deny Satan and completely follow after God’s commands. Everything would stop the destruction on earth, but I really do not believe that will happen. As the innocents one who are saved by Jesus Salvation are in heaven as a Spirit, and they are doing alot better than we are here!

      • twohawk says:

        With respect, I must disagree with you. There is NOTHING
        anyone can do to stop the destruction on earth.

        God keeps his promises, and that which has been prophesied
        will occur. We know this because He has already seen
        everything from the beginning to the end. He has told us
        so in the Bible. I follow what I learn in the Bible.

        Many are deceived by being told, and believing, what their
        itching ears want to hear.

        • watchman48 says:

          Very well said…. God’s WORD tells us that there is none who are good. We all were born with the sin nature and it is only by God’s Grace that we can be saved from the destruction that is nearly upon us.
          God gave man His warnings and all the proof in His WORD that we may know that which is coming for all of us; plus, there is the writings of the ancient church Fathers for us read.
          Know this, the curse on Sodom and Gomorrah stands for all eternity and any person, city, state, or nation who follows their path of depravity will follow in their destiny.

          He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind.” 1 Samuel 15:29

          To read God’s judgment for America; Google: “The Message For America, Hand of Help Ministries.” To read how I was led to this; Google: ” Watchman On The Wall, America ~ Mystery Babylon? ” To read the message of the 2nd major terrorist attack; Google; “The Eagle and the Serpents, Hand of Help Ministries.” And for where I believe the location of the 2nd attack will be; Google: “Watchman On The Wall, The Eagle and the Serpents (Part 2).”

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Sin many times bring destruction upon the innocent. Serial killers sin brings death to innocent people. These children are in God’s hands now, they will not have to know the sin of the world they lived in. Did you forget God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, I’m sure they had children, that got destroyed in his wrath, the children didn’t sin, but they suffered for the sin of others.

  5. Marco says:

    the LORD has his way in the whirlwind the scripture of truth declares BUT in this age of the dispensation of the grace of God he is not imputing their trespasses. If that is the case think about how Satan destroyed Job’s home and family with a whirlwind, that wicked prince of the power of the air.

    Nevertheless vile women and men will wax worse and worse, but all they are doing is storing up wrath against the day of wrath as the scripture of truth declares.

    Note how blinded Satan has these fools by even calling it “gay pride.”

    Pride commith before destruction… and gay is a good word that Satan twisted into something bad.

  6. Dawn says:

    Another interesting topic for consideration here is weather manipulation. There is an instructive DVD be Dr. Nick Begich about HAARP (Angels Don’t Play This HAARP)–the USA’s electromagnetic pulse energy system. Check it out! Russia has a weaponized version called Scaler. There are many who accept that many natural weather systems are directed and made much worse by these systems.

    • suez says:

      Another interesting topic also is: Pro 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
      Pro 1:25 But ye have set at naught all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
      Pro 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
      Pro 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
      Pro 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
      Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
      And another good one is this one which the Lord is describing himself to Job. Sorry it is long, but well worth the read. It gives me great peace to know God is in control of the weather, contrary to what some believe, that the devil is… :( “ob 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
      Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
      Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
      Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
      Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
      Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
      Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
      Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it broke forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
      Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling band for it,
      Job 38:10 And broke up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
      Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
      Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
      Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
      Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
      Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withheld, and the high arm shall be broken.
      Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
      Job 38:17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
      Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
      Job 38:19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
      Job 38:20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
      Job 38:21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
      Job 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
      Job 38:23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
      Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
      Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
      Job 38:26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
      Job 38:27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
      Job 38:28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
      Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath engendered it?
      Job 38:30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
      Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
      Job 38:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
      Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
      Job 38:34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?
      Job 38:35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?
      Job 38:36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?
      Job 38:37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,
      Job 38:38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?
      Job 38:39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,
      Job 38:40 When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?
      Job 38:41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

    • Mark says:

      According to my research, this is indeed true. Katrina was done by HAARP, and the proof is in the movie Oil Storm, which premiered two weeks prior to Katrina. Ironically the movie was literally a complete portrayal of Katrina, just different storm name. Below is video.

      Also I bet Sandy was HAARP too? Isn’t it ironic how Sandy occurred just prior to election day, giving Obama the win even? Then all the recent meteor strikes and sightings?

      More on HAARP…

  7. Genesis 18:20 20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very GRIEVIOUS. When sins grieve the heart of God; he has to act; Katrina hit New Orleans the week of the Decadent Society had their large convention; queers from everywhere were there to celebrate their filthy lust of oral/anal sex; love ? Never in a million years; the only beauty that comes out of this is; Children go to be with him, and not grow up with corrupt manners/minds.etc.

    • suez says:

      Good point Clarence. Were you also aware that the other hurricane that hit New Orleans, was on the very same day, just a few years different. Then too, were the Gays planning a great evil festival!!! Hm mm Interesting!!!

  8. Jill Villalba says:

    Clarence..the seems to make sense of God taking the little ones out so they ALL don’t have to be exposed to all this sin.. I was trying to figure it out if this was God or just nature..but thinking about scriptures and such, AND we know time is short..I believe its God disgusted with the world. Since Obama has been President, it seems we’ve made huge strides towards seeing the end. I think him getting elected only made it more possible to get this beaten path of decline, only way more rapidly..!! I pray for all of you here and for our nation..May the Good Lord Jesus have mercy on our souls, in Jesus name, Amen!!

  9. Mario says:

    If you bother to visit the gay website linked you will see how the little children are been exposed to this evil lifestyle. This may or may not have been the wrath of God, but surely shows that our nation is really in deep trouble.

  10. watchman48 says:

    Whose to say what is fair, just or right but God. Man is not perfect, we are a fallen race living in a fallen world with most seeking to please only themselves and not the one that has given us the very breathe of life.
    If God stood back and never intervened at all man would still destroy the world we live in…. But God will intervene else there would not be anyone to survive the disasters that are slated for the coming days.
    It is always hard for some to understand the death of the innocent children but we as human can’t see the whole picture. We know that the destruction that awaits us as shown to us in the Book of Revelation will be horrendous and during this time many will seek death but they will fail in their attempts of suicide; therefore
    I firmly believe that those not of the age of accountability will enter heaven by God’s Grace…They, having been blessed not to hath to live through the Seven Year Tribulation period….
    I believe we are standing at the threshing floor today and I see America destruction as the beginning of the Tribulation period.

  11. BCEL says:

    This is end time events as predicted. The article mentioned Sunday as being the Lords day. Sunday is the papal mark of authority. The only Sabbath is (Saturday) the 7th day of the week, as in the 4th commandment. Unless we follow God according to his commandments, all His commandments we will be lost.

  12. Arley says:

    I’m having a problem accepting that this is deliberate wrath of God. If He went to destroy Sodom for that which was going on, in Sodom, would God, today, destroy a town in Oklahoma for something that just went on in a ‘guilty’ city hundreds or thousands of miles away, say, Call-i-porn-ya?? I think NOT. Oh, yes He may be ‘loosing’ the weather, and geographic storms, and seismic activity, to more strongly protest/warn mankind He is very unhappy, and about to loose the Hounds of Hell on the surface of earth, but not pick out a mostly innocent town to show a very guilty town what the guilty town deserves. I doubt the guilty town would even notice, other than, perhaps, feel more capable of doing the sinful, without reproach.
    The homosexual behavior, IMO, is but one of the abominations, that is raising God’s wrath, into His face.
    Pray that Jesus comes for the Bride/Church, and the ‘Pre-Mitzvah-aged ‘children, to Snatch away from this ‘Great Delusion’ (insanity) has spread to the unsaved.
    Keep the Watch, He is nigh.

    • suez says:

      Sorry for the repeater, My computer is jumping around…:(

    • Mark says:

      It’s not necessarily Gods wrath. Satan owns this world, and controls it through the elite faction. The latter run governments, economy, religion, and have unknown powers. See my above video posts on HAARP and such. ;-)

      How bad will things get? This stuff is nothing compared to the coming tribulation horrors. And the dark trend will not end until the millennium arrives.

      • When we walk away from God—Satan has an open invite to walk in—-and he takes it and he does what he does best—he kills steals and destroys. Adam and Eve willingly walked away from God and started the evil, defiance, degradation and malice in the world. They were duped. The same satan dupes those who walk away from God today. …and then he laughs at the destruction and pain and loss of inncocent lives….and revels in it. Our Lord God gives us a choice—in love. When we walk away from Him; we ultimately make the choice to let satan in. …and we reap of it.

        • Mark says:

          Yes I know this all Cindy ;-) And the world has walked away from God many long years ago, plus heathen nations generally live for the world.. not God. And although some folk think America was Gods pride nation, the truth states otherwise. Only believers in the heathen nations hold any joy with God. So after rapture, no believers will remain. And the world will become Satan’s playground then, as Gods presence will no longer be here to keep things at bay. I do believe that throughout history, the largest death tolls have been in the millions? Well during the tribulation it will be in the billions. In fact by the end, all humanity will be wiped out.

          Rev 19:21 KJV – And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

      • watchman48 says:

        Correction, Satan haves dominion over all the earth not ownership. He can only do what God will allows… Remember God would not allow Satan to destroy Job. Jesus comes back at the end of the Seven Year Tribulation to reclaim that which is His.

      • suez says:

        Co 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that showed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof: :-)

        • Mark says:

          Eph 6:12 KJV – For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

          2Cr 4:4 KJV – In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

          Guess we have a biblical contradiction? ;-)

          • suez says:

            None at all Mark. Yes Satan and his imps have influence in this earth, that is the spirit of anti-christ. But it is God that is still on the throne of the Universe! He is in Full control, and Satan has to have permission to do whatever. I feel sorry for you if you think it is satan who totally rules this earth and the heavens. If that were so, he would kill off all the Christians, and destroy all of us, heathens too, so people would die and go to hell with him…:( You need to spend some time in the Old Testament, that is where you really get to know God the Father. :)

          • Mark says:

            Yes I know that Sue ;-) But as scripture states, Satan is god of this world, not of the heavens. But his power is only that which God allots him. Else he would destroy mankind, as he has hated man since God created him. In fact he hates Gods creation period, even his own angels. He only loves himself, and his only desire is to usurp Gods throne as king of the universe. Just my thoughts in latter parts ;-)

            P.S. I’ve studied varied OT stuff too, and always learning. Never ending game ;-)

            Question: Did you not read my reply on other blog, where you requested I give you my biblical sources? So far, no comment on it :-(

          • suez says:

            Sorry, by heavens, I was meaning the air. I miss spoke…:( the sky above where he dwells.

          • Mark says:

            Well is not the air part of one of the heavens? Anyway, no problem for error. We all make mistakes ;-)

            Question: Did you ever get my source links?

      • Mike says:

        Mark: You have just taken the sovereignty of God away from God and given it over to the devil. You could not be any more in error than you are. The book of Job makes it very clear that our God is in sovereign control of everything and that the devil can do nothing apart from God’s sovereign control. I pray you will repent of your statement above and come to know the truth of our sovereign God.

        • Mark says:

          Mike, I should have worded things differently :-( I know that God reigns in supreme control over Satan. But I just assumed that all would be understood in my write.. duh.

          In any case, God allows Satan dominion over us. And Satan does work through the Illuminati to gain control. But he is still restricted in what he can do. Any better phrasing now?

    • twohawk says:

      There is no innocent town. It brings clearer meaning to
      ” the sins of the father are visited upon the child”.

      When we screw up, the children pay for it- and should
      never have to. They are the truly, only, innocent.

      I believe the coverage is a preview, as we are taught that
      also, all will view the witnesses of Revelations’ deaths and
      desecration on the streets.
      We all felt pain that day, to watch the fear and suffering of
      children in the OK. tornado.

  13. suez says:

    ob 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
    Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
    Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
    Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
    Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
    Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
    Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it broke forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
    Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling band for it,
    Job 38:10 And broke up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
    Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
    Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
    Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
    Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
    Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withheld, and the high arm shall be broken.
    Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
    Job 38:17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
    Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
    Job 38:19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
    Job 38:20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
    Job 38:21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
    Job 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
    Job 38:23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
    Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
    Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
    Job 38:26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
    Job 38:27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
    Job 38:28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
    Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath engendered it?
    Job 38:30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
    Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
    Job 38:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
    Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
    Job 38:34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?
    Job 38:35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?
    Job 38:36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?
    Job 38:37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,
    Job 38:38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?
    Job 38:39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,
    Job 38:40 When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?
    Job 38:41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of me

  14. NTEB News Desk says:

    We never said it was the “deliberate wrath of God”…we simply have shown you the amazing “coincidence” of a Gay Pride Week celebration and the worlds worst tornadoes…you decide what it is…

    • Ron Murphy says:

      I’ve decided, it’s wrath. But getting the gays to see that is another quest. They tell me to go back to the stone age from where I came. But I know when this kind of sin is unleashed upon a land, then so is violence. We see it to many times in God’s word.

    • Melicia says:

      I see it a little differently then wrath. I believe that when we as believer walk in spirit and in truth, living out a life of obediance, we live under the protection of the Almighty. When we step outside of His will and the path He rightly chooses for us, to indulge in sin, we step outside that umbrella of protection. I think the bible is pretty clear that we are in the dispensation of grace as the Lord is long suffering and patient extended grace without limit.

      However, as I DO believe we are coming to the end of that age I can see how the things like earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, and tornadoes are the by product of the earth groaning in travail waiting for Christ’s return. The protection that we step out from under living lives of indulgent sin leads us to become susceptible to these disasters.

      The punishment for ALL of our sin was paid at the cross. There is a big difference between punishment and chastisement. To say that God is bringing wrath, as some here have, would be to imply that Christ’s sacrifice wasn’t enough and these people are to be punished for that sin. Of course I realize that only applies to those who believe, but we can’t possibly know if those affected by the tornado are believers or not.

      I have immediate family who have lost their homes and material possessions in this natural disaster, yet I know He works things out for the good of those who love Him.

      In this world we will have trouble, yet Christ Jesus overcame it. Walk in obedience to love Him and others and know that when He returns the 2nd time, all evil will be rectified.

  15. Jill Tiimms says:

    My pastor husband ask me what was going on in Oklahoma in these past few days and months. Now I have a better understanding of why God’s judgement is on this state. I can only wish and pray that our Government would get back to the Bible and get back to what this country was founded on.

    • watchman48 says:

      God’s Judgment is upon all of America and She will not return to what we knew in times pass..
      For the man who thinks he knows all that there is to be known, is nothing but a fool unto himself. Wisdom is gained from what man has experienced in life, but true wisdom comes from God. There is nothing in this life that man can say for a certainty, unless he has seen, or experienced directly or indirectly that which pertains to his statements, beliefs, or faith. In other words, for man to say, “I know God does not exist,” just because he personally has not experienced a life changing event is nothing less than pure ignorance.

      Even if a wise man claims he is wise or he displays his degrees from years of studying, without faith in God he still lacks the ability to comprehend or understand the existence of …God, because his wisdom is that of the world’s. If the wise man says he is wise then please, what is God’s purpose for man? And let him tell us why should God reveal himself to someone that does not seek Him, or to someone that is not seriously wanting to know him in a personal way, much less to someone that does not believe in Him?

      God has chosen to hide Himself, but to those who fear Him, He will reveals His heart’s desires. In Psalms 91:1 He refers to His place of hiding as the secret place. Only those who fear God will find this secret place, as we are told: The LORD confides in those who fear him; he makes his covenant known to them. Psalm 25:14 NIV.

      Most Americans have embraced the abominations of homosexuality and abortion, replaced the truth with lies. They have worshipped false gods rather than the God who revealed Himself to the Israelite people as being the One True God of all creation. These things and much, much more has happen to bring about God’s judgment upon a people who refuses to listen and obey His WORD.
      While in prayer on Jan. 22,’97 the Holy Spirit spoke in my left ear saying, “I will repay America back double for her iniquities.” In the last 40 years we have shed the innocent blood of approx. 56 million babies through abortion, doubled that would be 112 million lives and that is just counting for the sin of abortion…

      God does not take His divine judgments lightly so He never allows the destruction of a people or nation that He doesn’t give the people time to repent before His judgment falls upon the land.
      America’ days have been numbered and neither Pres. Obama nor all of America’s Armed Forces can save a cursed America… The only hope we have is with Jesus Christ and no other, no false gods such as Allah nor Buda can save anyone.

      To read God’s judgment for America, Google: “The Message For America, Hand of Help Ministries.” To read how I was led to this, google: ” Watchman On The Wall, America ~ Mystery Babylon? ” To read the message of the 2nd major terrorist attack, google; “The Eagle and the Serpents, Hand of Help Ministries.” And for where I believe the location of the 2nd attack will be, google: “Watchman On The Wall, The Eagle and the Serpents (Part 2).”

      Neither is the next hour nor the next day is promised to anyone… today is the day for salvation…. Open the Bible to the Book of John, read, pray and believe that He is who He says He is. If you fail to choose Christ as your LORD and SAVIOR then you will meet Him as your Judge and is last words will be something like this, “Depart from Me, for I never knew you.” At this time you would be casted into utter darkness where there is the gnashing of teeth and a never ending thirst for all eternity.
      I leave you with this: One revelation from God is worth far more than the knowledge gained from all the books in the world written by men who have no understanding or comprehension of the absolute truth of God’s WORD.

  16. suez says:

    Nah 1:3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet. I just posted these scriptures to show that God is in control of the weather. Do I understand it all…no. But I know those babies are in Heaven with him, instead of being here on this evil earth. Unfortunately we never understand why the innocent have to perish with the wicked, but it has always been like that, even in the Old Testament! To God be the Glory!!

  17. This is judgement as was Sunday as was Katrina as was 9/11 as was the dust bowl days and the great depression.

  18. Our innocent ones who are not accountable for their sins are very happy in heaven right now!

    • Daw says:

      Pastor.
      There are no innocent human beings no mater how old or young, period.
      What you are speaking of is the “age of accountability.

  19. Steve says:

    Found in Romans. Chapter 8 verse 28.

    And we know that ALL things work together for good to those that LOVE GOD, to them who are called according to his purpose!!

    GOD demonstrates suffering again, be reminded of what HE did for us on the cross, HE gave victory of suffering for us by going to the cross in our place dying for our sins, and redeeming us by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

    This was GOD’S plan for man kind, now we must see this, open our eyes to HIS GREAT LOVE, and ACCEPT this great gift of pardon and YOU will be saved!!

    God Bless you making this decision. IT matters for your eternity!!!

  20. Susan Z says:

    I didn’t know that this was “Gay Pride Week” in Oklahoma. Wow. And also read in the comments about gay perversion increasingly pushing for acceptance in New Orleans right at time of Katrina. I just recently read in Isaiah where God says He uses the weather to send punishment for evil. Very interesting, and I don’t believe it is coincidental. I agree with those who say that the innocent who died are with the Lord. Scriptures tells us that God removes His own from worse things that are to come, so that may have been what He was doing, removing His sheep before more terrible things are done on this wicked planet.

    I remember reading about a King (Hezekiah, I think) who was a good king, and God told him that he was going to die, and Hezekiah pleaded with God for more time. So God gave him 15 more years in answer to his prayers, and it was the worst 15 years ever. It would have been much better if he would have accepted what God wanted to do, but God gave him what he wanted and it was a terrible decision for him. He could have left with a good reputation but ended up leaving this world in disgrace.

  21. Becky: God anger will very soon to shown to the world in the Tribulation.

  22. this website is offensive. You claim to be righteous Christians, but you’re just dancing to the Republican party’s tired old tune.
    share Christ and please lay off the politics!

  23. Daw says:

    And at what time during the “tribulation ” would you say G-d`s anger(wrath )I am assuming you mean, will
    this be apparent?

  24. Sparrow says:

    I’m just wondering how San Francisco and Los Angeles have escaped so long! Seems like all the filth starts there and then spreads to the rest of the country!

  25. TexasRedNeck says:

    >>>Sparrow <<< Have you heard of the San Andreas Fault ? Now you get the picture, don't you ?
    They are not about to escape the wrath of God on the west coast or anywhere else, they'll get theirs too.

  26. Bo says:

    It’s awesome to see so many knew people with their comments. SUEZ – You are right on. God controls the weather. Not mother nature or our government. Great job.

    • Mark says:

      Actually, God allows Satan to rule this world, and that includes giving Satan power over the weather and such. At present Satan can only do a little bit, but during tribulation he will have full reign over the world. At that time, Gods presence will be gone from here.

      • Ron Murphy says:

        satan does not rule the world until tribulation and only then because God gave him permission to do so. Jesus is the God of the earth, Mark.

        • Mark says:

          To the contrary Ron…

          2Cr 4:4 KJV – In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

          Satan has been god of this world since the fall. The prince of the power of the air. Him and his angels rule it from on high.

          Eph 6:12 KJV – For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

          P.S. I thought you knew your bible stuff ;-)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            To the contrary, Mark , many gods in this world already, But Jesus is the God of the earth.
            Gen 24:3 And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:
            Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
            Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

    • suez says:

      Praise God Brother!!! God is all in all!!! :)

  27. I have not yet read the posts on this page, but please pray for my team. We will be at the Chicago “Pride Parade” on June 30, this year. Passing out Chick tracts, singing and preaching the Gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ. As disgusting as this”grievous sin” is, we will approach it with the love of God and only desire to “Rescue the perishing.”

    “If I didn’t love you, I wouldn’t tell you about Jesus”

    Be well.
    Mike

  28. It seems to be too much a coincidence to BE a coincidence, don’t you think?

  29. Debra says:

    John Paul Jackson who has come out on many Christian stations was told by God years ago that tornados would be hitting various places in the USA with winds over 200 miles per hour. He produced a video of these predictions long before they began happening. He says the Lord showed him droughts where whole cities would be emptied out because there was no water, water costing more than gasoline, malls empty with people having to live in some of them because of disasters etc. riots because of the economy, people hi jacking Walmart trucks for food, armed guards on grocery trucks, more terrorism, blight on the hybrid seeds for food, etc. So far he’s been right about the tornados!
    Where I live in New Mexico, we have been in a drought for 3 years so far! They have gay parades every year in our downtown streets also.

    The bible is full of accounts where God destroyed cities or forgave cities like in the story of Jonah and the whale where God told him to go to a certain city and tell them to repent or be destroyed. Yes, God lets Satan destroy homes and people too like in the book of Job. Remember also Sodom and Gomorra with other cities that were destroyed by fire in the bible. The people tried to have sex with angels coming to take Lot and his family out of harms way before God destroyed those cities. So we see that God destroys and judges and lets Satan destroy mankind also. My prayer is that our nation will have a tremendous repentance move of God before we our wiped off the world map or taken over by another enemy nation.

  30. chance says:

    So what we are saying is that God will kill innocent people and not spare them based on the acts of others? Tornadoes have been happening for a rather long time, anyone remember the one that hit Xenia, Ohio back in the 70′s? What was the reason God had then – and does only God send tornadoes (and if so, why not send them to place like…Oh I dunno…Beijing?

    We have people ripping off others, promoting slave labor, lovers of money and lies (politicians and corporations), people destroying the environment when they don’t need to (to save money) and god is upset over gay people? Really?

  31. Nat Turner says:

    God really showed the gays didn’t he ? He killed all those children whose parents were probably born again Christians. Yep no better way to demonstrate his wrath than to strike out at the Bible Belt while Sin CIties prosper. Do you really think this was the first time a Christian event coincided with a Gay event? Silly superstitious people the storms have nothing to do with sin, perhaps Global Warming but not sin as you silly billies describe.
    I thank God I am an Atheist and don’t believe this madness.

    • suez says:

      Hey Nat, thank you for the chuckle. That is one of the funniest lines I ever read. And I quote you: “I thank God I am an Atheist and don’t believe this madness.” IF YOUR A ATHEIST, WHY ARE YOU THANKING GOD??? Te He, rotflol :)

    • Ron Murphy says:

      God show the people of America, not just the gays. It is our responsibility to stop the sin in our nation, and this administration from corrupting our laws.

  32. Dawn says:

    Christians are divided along so many different lines. This article and its susequent and diverse comments, is an example of how often Christians differ with one another. And get very punchy when disagreed with! God hates perversion, but loves sinners and I’m so thankful, since I am one–forgiven by God’s grace in Christ! We need to cry out to the LORD for revival and ask God to make His Church the light again. How dim we have become! Living the Word of God is much more challenging than slamming others on the head with it!!

    • suez says:

      It is true, Dawn. I pray for a day we can all be in true Unity! I have questioned the Lord on that many times. Saying, Lord why can’t your people be in Unity like they were in the upper room. That is what I yearn for!!! :)

  33. Ron: You suppose to be our great leader of scripture, but your calling names to DAW, as he’s an idiot! These unfounded names calling comes from your pride, which Satan taught those words to you!
    Ron; NTEB News Desk said that your beliefs are wrong why don’t you explain to NTEB how wrong they are, and that their idiots, since you believe your right about the Tribulation.

    • suez says:

      No offense Steve, but that kinda looks like the Pot calling the kettle black, doesn’t it. Do you know how many times I have seen you call people worse names??? How soon we forget!! :(

    • Ron Murphy says:

      He is wicked. Are you blind? Look at his emblem and his name on it, then judge me.

    • suez says:

      I would say NTEB would say he is wrong, according with how they believe. I’m sure NTEB would agree, we may have different viewpoints on some doctrine, but we are still brothers and sisters in the Lord. So why be so angry because someone else doesn’t believe the exact way you do?? One day we will all know what the truth is! We are not called to change someone, we are called to minister Jesus Christ and him crucified to others!! Beyond that is the Holy Spirits job Steve. And YOU nor me, nor anyone else is the Holy Spirit! :)

    • Joseph says:

      Larue you are actually rebuking Ron for calling someone who post 666 as his symbol an idiot? You are so quick to beat Ron up you defended Satan to get to him. Sick.

  34. Are you all serious or is it a role-play website?!
    Because everything I have read so far seems so ridiculous and out of mind that I have difficulties believing it.

    I feel sorry for each one of you, because you all live in a world that doesn’t exist. You see things and interpret events in a way that nobody else than brain-washed persons can do.

    I sincerely hope you all wake up before you die. Because what you are saying and posting, will give you access to some gates alright. Might not be the ones you are expecting though…

    Among everything else in that book of yours… isn’t there a part that says Love thy neighbor as thyself?!

    Maybe you should stop quoting half of the book that has no sense and get back to the basics.

    Peace People. God do not control the Weather.

  35. Wily says:

    Wow, great response’s! Yes haarp w/the spray does effect the weather, they can tweak areas that have storm(s) brewing and heat the water (sub) to create quakes!
    The Lord is also doing some interesting things, the solar flaring has been wicked (the haarp facilities around the world can not generate enough energy to effect the sun) but it is strongly believed here in the mid mid west that the high array altitude resonance projects are focusing on the New Madrid area(s) which could change much of the terrain of the US! We can pray for protection or that these event’s will bring people to the Saving Grace of out Lord Jesus Christ! “Man” would love to take the credit for causing Judgment events, man does not realize that they are tools of the Lord and sudden destruction will fall on them! These global goon’s who go into these sub terrain mega cities will not come back out, most will die slowly without any hope, it will be their tombs! During the 2nd half of Daniels week man will be fleeing from mountain top to mountain top (not sub city to sub city) to try to escape His wrath. They’ll be calling for the rocks to fall on them, they’ll go from the frying pan into the fire! No hope for all who’s names are not in the Lamb’s book of life! Please read Hebrews, it’s time to be bold (in Him) we may be persecuted in ways we have not seen here in this country but He promises to make things right, never forget He’s w/us, He will dry our tears from our eye’s, He loves us so awesomely much, I pray we’ll all be Home w/Him soon! Satan will be popped in the oven and bound only to be loosed for just a little while then the devil will be tormented in ways he can’t even imagine forever and ever! Just think! Long after we have forgotten the Garden snake he’ll still will be aggressively in tormented going threw changing shapes of horror and will be in the eternal love of our Lord, the agape love and we’ll be loving Him back, ptl!
    Do not fear; …Heb 13:6… The evil doers will see the true terror of the Lord all in good time, their belly laugh’s will be no more, not to mention too much about the wine & cigars!

    God bless each &
    everyone of you,
    “know” who You
    are in the Lord!
    You do know ‘who’
    Bloody Mary feared
    the most? Let’s let
    ‘them’ know who to
    fear!

    • Mark says:

      The wicked can’t hide from Gods wrath, the deep secure dens they are building will be useless against the hour of destruction. The earth itself will crack and crush their flimsy underground refuges. Plus their supplies will run out and they will starve. None can’t hide from God, all are exposed!

  36. michael says:

    1 Corinthians 13 = God murdered people in Oklahoma……Whoever wrote this article is not qualified to teach apes about God and who he is.

  37. CyberMac says:

    “God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for their sins, everyone there died. Women, children, the aged, the blind, all the heterosexuals – everyone died.” To say that God can’t or won’t do that again, is simply naive.
    (Romans 1:18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

  38. michael says:

    My video response this article. Does this article compel you to love homosexuals or hate them calling for their destruction. The time for you to decide who you worship has come. Math skills required.

    • NTEB News Desk says:

      I guess you just chose to ignore this at the end of the article:
      EDITOR’S NOTE: My own brother, who I love to this day with all my heart, was a homosexual before he died in 1988. We here at NTEB love the LGBT people, and seek very much to see them saved and come to repentance before the Lord Jesus Christ. Please listen to our radio program entitled Leading The LGBT To Jesus….thank you.

      • michael says:

        Are you trying to convince me that this disclaimer is 100% opposite of what the article is insinuating. Homosexuals don’t need to be saved. Is God the author of our salvation or are you and I? Both cannot be true….You can’t reconcile the double speak. We now recognize when you attempt to convince the world that 2+2 = 4 and 5. The article insinuates that God caused a tornado that killed people because it was gay pride week. Are you going to deny this?

      • michael says:

        Quote: “Christianity cannot be reconciled with homosexuality anymore than it can be with drunkneness, murder, fornication or gossip. You cannot have both as they are oppossed to each other.

        You must choose.” – NTEB article

        Are you gonna try and convince 2+2 = both 4 and 5??

        • NTEB News Desk says:

          The bible clearly declares that homosexuality is a sin….and the article does NOT say that the tornado was sent for the express purpose of gay pride week. It simply points out the fact that on Sunday they had gay pride parade, on the biblical Day of Pentecost…and the very next day a tornado destroyed huge sections of the town…you are free to draw your own conclusions….

          • michael says:

            I’m confused, are you insinuating that you no longer sin? Oh, you are only insinuating that it’s ok for you to sin, but not homosexuals right? You ARE telling us you no longer sin right?

            Simple math skills are required to recognize double speak when it occurs.

          • NTEB News Desk says:

            No, I never said that or implied that. I am simply a sinner who is SAVED because I ask Jesus Christ to save me…I am not sinless, I am redeemed….only Jesus Christ is sinless…

          • michael says:

            The only way to steal money from a strong man is to put him in bondage. Psychological bondage…You just said that what Jesus did 2000 years ago was not good enough until you ask. This thinking is how $$ is stolen but not really stolen from you because you willfully hand it over. Why aren’t you asking God to save the homosexual and if you do, will he not?? You’re spewing double speak at me expecting me to understand some point you are trying to make. DO THE MATH: IT CANNOT BE CALLED GRACE IF YOU HAVE TO BEG FOR IT

          • michael says:

            The bible also clearly says it’s an abomination to eat shell fish. Do you eat shrimp? Maybe you’ll understand it coming from Martin Sheen.

          • NTEB News Desk says:

            You need to be saved, Michael….or you’re gonna burn in Hell. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16

          • michael says:

            Compare what NTEB believes to 1 Corinthians 13:5 – God is love and love, “…keeps no record of wrongs that others do.”

            Doing the math, what kind of people can we conclude keep a record of wrongs that others do?

    • suez says:

      Miachel you have the wrong idea. I for one do not hate the Homosexuals, and I’m sure most on here would say the same. But we hate the sin. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Get it!! If we didn’t love them, we wouldn’t pray that they come to the Lord Jesus Christ and repent, and make Jesus the Savior and Lord of their life so that they CAN escape Gods judgement, and go to be with him in their eternal life.

      • michael says:

        One scripture destroys everything your religion taught you. 1 Corinthians 13:5 God is love and love “keeps no record of wrongs that others do.”

        Compare this to everything you just told me in your message. There are two in the field and you’ve chosen Apollyon as rev 9 predicted. It’s maybe not the homosexual who needs to repent. Maybe God put the homosexual there to test the purity of your heart.

        • suez says:

          Sorry…..not true michael… Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

        • Mark says:

          God gives us freewill to choose our life paths Michael, but God also judges us by which paths we choose. And we cannot save ourselves, only by repenting unto God.

          We have zero power over God, but God has all power over us. Do yourself a favor, and be humble for once in your life. Unto the very one that brought you into this world? ;-)

  39. chance says:

    Why doesn’t God simply eliminate all gay people if he hates that sin more than all the others? Why no twisters in San Francisco? Wow – some folks are really reaching here and just like the election last year live in a bubble that they refuse to see out of.

    If God is going to target innocent men, women, and children in the bible belt over something a very few do then there is something wrong with your view on God. The church really has fallen away when he have people believing such crap.

  40. You people are ridiculous. If you honestly think God sent a tornado to punish the gays… Wouldn’t you think he would have sent it on pride weekend?

    • NTEB News Desk says:

      The tornado DID come then, it happened less than 24 hours after the Gay Pride Parade…thats the whole point of the story, didn’t you actually read it before commenting?

      • Piper says:

        *sigh*…why would He send it directly through the parade, is what I think he’s asking.

        I’m super disappointed – this is not how a Christian person is supposed to be acting. I grew up in the church and was taught to love everyone regardless. A gay person is just a person, however, they are treated like aliens by the church. This is why I no longer attend church, as I cannot stand the hypocrisy that runs rampant.

        You do realize that A LOT of homosexuals are actually Christian’s, right? I know a few, actually, and they are kind and non-judgmental to others. They didn’t ask to be gay, and it can’t be cured. Why in the world would a man allow himself to have his masculinity taken away and to be belittled for a choice like that? Please think about and maybe worry about your own life and issues instead of butting in to others’ lives.

        • NTEB News Desk says:

          The bible says that all homosexuality is a SIN, take it up with Him…

        • Mark says:

          What about intersexed (genetic condition)? People born with both genders can’t possibly be like normal gender types. Has this rare factor ever been biblicly examined?

          P.S. Hypocrisy is indeed rampant in the church :-(

  41. suez says:

    Sorry to burst your bubble michael, but that is already happening with the terrorist!! They think they are doing their god a favor torturing, killing, raping, and murdering innocent people. So I think your being kinda naive in what you said their buddy. Our God said this would be how it is, and it is how it is, in a lot of places now days!!! So another proof of Gods true word, coming to pass. Plus they been doing it for centuries!!

    • michael says:

      1 Corinthians 13:5 says love keeps no record of wrongs that others do. Is God love? Doesn’t the god you worship keep a record of wrongs?

      “Sorry, this is how God said it would be..”

      This is your answer?

      Your god is words on a page, not the one who created the heavens and the earth.

  42. Jill Villalba says:

    I posted this article on FB and my nephew, which is gay, asked me what’s wiith the tornado and gay pride parade? I love hom dearly and didn’t want to say much cuz I was afraid to hurt his feelings. Well, when he first came out of the closet, so to speak, he was 18 then. Well I wasn’t really a Christian yet but i knew being gay didn’t go along with the Bible..But I didn’t lie to him. I told him the truth. So he knows where I lie on this issue. But I had another guy tell me I qas sinning by posting the article and using Gods name in vain. I just feel I can’t sugar coat it. I haven’t gone back on FB since earlier today, cuz I don’t want to argue with anyone and I’m not as smart as most of you guys here who know the Bible so well.! God bless us all!!
    Jill

  43. TexasRedNeck says:

    God hates the sin, not the sinner.

  44. dori reese says:

    As I read my Bible, God told the Israelites to destroy whole cities, including men, women and children, and animals! So I have no problem believing God’s judgment can fall on anyone! We live in a fallen world, and God’s judgment can bring people to repentance. God is not willing that any perish but all come to repentance!

    • suez says:

      Amen Dori. Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

  45. Joan Rogers says:

    Our life is not here. We are spirit. All children belong to God Psalm127:3. I am saying this so they do not cry for the death of children. It is sad , indeed. However, absent from the body present with the Lord.
    We are to live unto Holy God thru Christ by His Spirit walking in obedience to Father God and His Word. As long as our nation denies God, rejecting Christ and His finished work on the cross; God will not repent of the evil He has judged over our nation who Hates God and His Holy Word.
    God spoke in a prophetic word thu me in church, because of all the unbelief and wickedness against Him and His Word, He would bring many nations down with Major catastrophic storms, greater in number and greater in magnitude , and as long as The nation does not turn back to Him He will not Relent.
    He said, no repentance unto Him, from all wickedness, this will become worse and not stop right into Armageddon.
    Remember, we were put here to walk with God not with Religion who denies Him. Christ paid I all for you and me.

  46. Trena Knight says:

    Shame on all of you for saying that the tornados were because of people clebrating Gay Pride week. Geeze!! Can you not give it a break!! You drive everyone from listenening to your hypocrathy!! I AM a Blood-bought, born again Christian, not gay. Shame on you!

  47. suez says:

    Isaiah 26:9

    With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

  48. For those of ‘You’, who do ‘Not’ know history… “One of the Caesars of Rome”… had a “Horse”… as his “Domestic” partner! “The Roman Emperor Gaius Julius Caesar Germanicus (or just ‘Caligula’) lived between 12–41. AD” History if filled with such references of perversions; which were followed by the “Fall” of those nations.
    Adam & Eve…. “NOT”… Bill & Steve…!
    “GAY?… or… Homosexual? – 101”…Blog
    http://truth459.blogspot.com/2011/08/gay-or-homosexual-101blog.html

  49. jane says:

    What an utterly sick and twisted connection to make.
    Shame on you and your stupid beiefs.

  50. TJ2000 says:

    Interesting article. I understand that NTEB desk pointed it out. If it was the wrath of God, then why doesnt he send a tornado or huricane to destroy Orlando Fl. for it’s gay pride week?

    Just saying,

  51. Dawn says:

    It may not seem right for innocent people to suffer, but everyone has a free will and everyone is living in the same world. When something happens in a certain place, everyone suffers, innocent and not innocent.

  52. NTEB News Desk says:

    As we said earlier, we are simply pointing out the amazing coincidence between the Gay Pride Parade on Sunday – on the day of Pentecost – and the massive tornado the next day. Sure looks like God was sending a message…

  53. TexasRedNeck says:

    Thanks to former President “Klinton” he proclaimed the entire month of June as “gay pride month”, a whole month of it. Disgusting !!!!!!

    I know it was a long time ago so hold your sarcastic comments, please,

  54. If any one wants to know what GOD thinks about homosexuals and their sin , please ,read the BIBLE, it answers all questions concerning this topic ALL QUESTIONS…………..

    I STAND WITH GOD…………

  55. RoN: I see in Ruby post that your calling someone an idiot!

    Since your bringing up that language calling people idiots, I wonder if you have a High School education?

    Just wondering where you learned all these colorful words from?

  56. Joesph: Talk to someone who care to listen to your crap! Every time you open your mouth its always hot air! So just to remind you its falling on deaf ears!

  57. Joseph says:

    The above comment comes to you straight from END TIMES! stand strong brothers and sisters in Christ. Its going to get even uglier than Roman.

  58. SUEZ: And like always, your always there to point our my faults! Don’t you have something better to do?

    • suez says:

      I’m not pointing out any of your faults Steve. You do a great job of doing that to yourself by your own comments! :( Maybe you should go back and read some of your own comments. Are they Christ like?

  59. Joseph: If my crap is so old, exactly why are you reading it? No one forcing to comment on my old crap!

  60. Maria says:

    I can’t believe how absurd all of this sounds. Do you know how many Gay Pride parade’s there has been? God didn’t punish OK because of this, this sounds insane & doesn’t sound Christian-like to me at all. I AM a christian, but, also believe God made homosexuals. why repent from something you have absolutely no control over, because it surely isn’t a choice. I would know. I have a gay brother. I knew he was gay by the time he was 3 yrs. old. He always wanted to dress in my old clothes. He had a crush on his male teacher in 1st grade & told our mother about it, & knew nothing about it being considered “wrong”…He considers himself a christian, & is very much accepted in our church. He has been studing God’s word since he was 11 years old. He’s even taught me many things. He even knows how to read a lot in Hebrew. The word homosexual didn’t even exist in the orignal Bible. I believe it’s totally misunderstood. Bless you all.

    • suez says:

      Maria, I’m sorry for your brother. But have you read? Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
      Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.
      Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
      Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
      Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
      Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
      Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
      Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
      Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
      Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. (That says it pretty darn clear!!!!!)
      Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
      Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
      Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
      Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
      Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” God also destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, because of homosexuality. We read in: Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
      Gen 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
      Gen 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
      Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
      Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
      Gen 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
      Gen 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
      Gen 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
      Gen 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
      Gen 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
      Gen 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
      Gen 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides a son-in-law, and thy sons, and thy daughters? and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
      Gen 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.
      Gen 19:14 And Lot went out, and spoke unto his sons-in-law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons-in-law.
      Gen 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
      Gen 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
      Gen 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
      Gen 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
      Gen 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast showed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
      Gen 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.
      Gen 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.
      Gen 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
      Gen 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
      Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
      Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. (ALSO Pretty clear!)
      Someone can consider themselves a christian, but that does not make them a christian…sorry. If he prays to be Born Again and ask Jesus to forgive him, and repents and turns to Christ, and trust in Christ by grace through faith, then they are a Christian. But to continue to live a lie, just doesn’t cut it. If he is really serious, and repents, I would think he would NEED deliverance also, from a Spirit of Perversion! For That is what I think caused him to be this way, so young in his life. A evil spirit came upon him. Did you ever have someone in your family a older person who maybe died, that was gay??? This spirit came from somewhere, and gained entrance because of something….Some may disagree, but I would think, that is what it is. I would have to ask what kind of a church do you go to that thinks it’s OK ,to be a practicing Homosexual? I would RUN away from that church. It is not of God!! :( Now lets see what the word of God says about that. 1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
      1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Another good one: 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. Please don’t be miss-lead with these kind of evil so called pastors. For the bible says they are false. Please read the King James Bible, maybe you will start seeing some of these things yourself.
      I hope I have helped you. I am not trying to judge you, but to just show you what the Word of God really says about it. God be with you. :)

    • Mark says:

      Maria – Please email me on matters
      mkhodge@sonic.net

      P.S. Private discussion interest ;-)
      Also a Christian, with questions.

      • suez says:

        Mark, she doesn’t need to email you for matters. What you say to her, you can say on here. No secrets…that is bad. Good way to be lead astray, when a man needs to talk to a woman in private!!!! Beware Maria!! :)

    • Read the BIBLE,, obviously you have not, GOD plainly states his position.

      Homosexuality is an ABOMINATION before GOD…………….

  61. Ptr. Mon says:

    Grace and Peace to all of you..

    You may all question GOD whatever you want. BUT there is something in HIM that you all people don’t understand.

    HE LOVES you, but He hates your sin.. the destruction in OK was because of the sin of the the whole nation… The Scripture says “If God is for us, who can be against us?” Now let’s make it this way…

    GOD’s Presence is in His people who really seek and obey Him with the lowliness of heart… And God’s presence can do things more than you could ever ask or think..

    Now, If GOD’s PRESENCE is with your Nation, then who can be against you? = the answer,? NO ONE!!!

    but how about “IF GOD’s Presence is not with/for your whole nation, then who can be against you?………………. answer = EVERYONE… that even the Nature and every Creation of the CREATOR OF Heaven and Earth will be against you…

    Now let me give you what the LORD told about your nation….

    “RETURN TO RIGHTEOUS America, RETURN to the TRUTH that you once Believe. Return to the LORD and HE Will Return To YOU…. GOD Will and Can Restore the whole nation when you Truly Repent and Renew your Relationship to HIM.”

    GOD BLESS you all…

    • suez says:

      Thank you Ptr.mon I agree!! That is a fact!! I’m sure most here are praying for America to repent and turn back to the Lord. There are many Christians in this nation. But there are many more evil people I would bet. Our government is EVIL! All we can do is pray and put our faith and trust in the Almighty God!! :(

  62. Roman says:

    Oh yeah its going to get uglier in your make believe world. Especially when your little bubble shatters and the US breaks thru the stupidity that is the binding of brainwashed religion idiots and legalizes gay marriage. I am sure then your all powerful imaginary friend will do something about it.

    Lol I lost faith in this dribble whe. I was 10 years old. I am looking forward to the big changes down the line. Equality is a big one working down the pipeline.

    Brace yourself and your little delusional world because it is going to be shattered soon enough.

    • suez says:

      Have no fear Roman!!! There are LOTS of BIG CHANGES coming for you!! :) I’m sorry you were maybe, raised in a so called christian home, where bad example may have been shown. There are a lot of people who call themselves Christians, but they are not True Christians! So please don’t throw God out because you may have been around hypocrites!! There are hypocrites in everything. Especially Christianity. But that isn’t God’s fault! It isn’t about what people do Roman, it is about what Jesus has done!!! He will judge them, as he will everyone who doesn’t come to his son Jesus Christ. He loves you so very much! He died for you. I will pray for you Sir! Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. :)

  63. Maria says:

    Yes, I’ve read all of the Bible. I see nothing that would make me believe homosexuality is a sin…Like I said, I believe it was misunderstand even before it was translated into English….No reason to say I’m sorry about my brother, my brother is a very godly man. :) Thank you though.

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Then how could a man cling to a wife if she’s a he, doesn’t that in itself tell you something? Just what would the world of done if God made two men in the beginning? What you say is contrary to God to begin with.

    • suez says:

      Well Maria, I have given you the scripture above. If you can’t see it, then your spiritual eyes are blinded, and you better as God to save you and open your eyes to truth. Another thing is your reading the WRONG Bible. Get a Authorized King James my dear. That is where you will get the true word. The other versions water it all down. Sorry if that offends anyone, don’t mean for it to. But it is the truth. And about your church accepting him. Yes any church should welcome anyone into their doors, to hear the truth. But, if they continue living in that sin. Then that matter should be dealt with, as with any sexual and perverted sin. :-)

  64. Maria says:

    I would have to disagree that my church isn’t of God just because they accept everyone…That’s like saying don’t accept people that eat pork in the church, lol!…

  65. Mario says:

    For all those of you who believe Christians can be gay and that God made gays can you refute Leviticus 18:22?

    ‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.”

    “ ‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. (NIV)

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Amen! Mario. That one is buried deep, It’s about time some one dig it up and post it on the White House wall. KJV though.

    • suez says:

      Great scripture Mario!!! Here it is in the King James, plus a couple more that are great!! :) Lev 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. (That would be abortion today!)
      Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Gays)
      Lev 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
      Lev 18:24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
      Lev 18:25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. I really don’t know how plainer it can be for Maria, if she can’t see it, it is because she chooses not to! :(

  66. notover says:

    Innocent?. There are no innocent children or adults. All of us are born sinners under the wrath of God. The so called ignorent Church of today has a low opinion of God,His holiness and justice.We have made a God after our own image.

  67. suez says:

    Well Roman, I don’t know about any one else but I have been married to the same man for 43 years. And divorce is not always, black and white. Many women have been abused, so are they suppose to stay with a man that has been that way. And some were devorced before they were saved, and came to Jesus. And besides that, Jesus has fulfilled the law. Jesus is now our sabbath. We are now under GRACE. No, we shouldn’t sin, but we are still living in this sinful flesh body, if so we do sin, so we have to repent, and ask his forgiveness a lot, and he forgives us. “1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” You have to remember, that: Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
    Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
    Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
    Rom 3:23 For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
    Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his GRACE through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
    Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in HIS BLOOD, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
    Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him WHICH believeth in Jesus.
    We are SET FREE from the law, through what Jesus did on the CROSS”! He shed his precious blood for us, that we could be forgiven, and saved by HIS GRACE, through FAITH in what he did upon that CROSS! There is no one here that is good, for the Bible says: “Psa 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
    Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” We are all dirty rotten sinners!!! Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” You see Roman, Christians are NOT PERFECT, never will in this flesh body. It is ONLY by the BLOOD that Jesus shed, that can get rid of our sin. NOTHING we can do! It is all what HE HAS DONE!!! We are a imperfect people, serving a PERFECT GOD! I hope this helps you sir! :)

  68. SUEZ: Are your comments Christ like, remember your a sinner?

    • suez says:

      Well Steve, I try and offer scripture, as I have nothing in myself. And no one needs to tell me I am a sinner! I am fully aware of that! I will tell you one thing though. I have not run around here and told people that I would shoot them! I don’t claim to be Christ like, but that is what I strive for. I have not gotten there, but by the grace and mercy of God, and his Holy Spirit, one day I will. I will say, I have never vented hatred and rage like you have exhibited over and over again. I try my best to be, what I hope, would be kind, and be a vessel of honor to God. But, I know I fall short many times. But every time I fall, I don’t run around and tell people oh, I’m sorry, I am a sinner, then continue to do the same thing that I was suppose to be sorry for in the first place!!!! That is not a sorry heart Steve. To be sorry, means you turn from doing it. You keep excusing yourself of the horrible things you keep saying to people by saying, oh, I am a sinner, but God has forgiven me. Fine, yes he forgives us, but we are to stop doing what we asked him to forgive us of. Not continue. I have discerned you are a B A I T E R. You want to cause strife and anger. You must be so filled with anger and bitterness, that you want to use it to try and make others feel the same way. You wallow in provoking people to anger. It strokes your ego. Makes you feel as if you are superior, then if they take the bait, and they get angry, and lash out back at you to defend themselves, then you got them. You devour it like a sweet piece of candy. Licking your lips from the drool that comes from the satisfaction you feel. You have a spirit of Rage and strife. A perverse spirit. I pray you will ask God to help you be delivered from them. I a sorry for you, and pray that the Lord delivers you and helps you, truly I do.

      • SUEZ: You sure have a problem with your scripture where does it, say, In Jesus name SHUT UP! I’m sure glad your not Jesus, because when I asked Jesus forgiveness of my sins, he forgotten them, but your keeping a list of them! Now your putting words in my mouth! I never said, I hated anyone, just lost my temper! No you won’t tell others I’m sorry, then continue doing the same, but actually you do, you keep bringing up thje same insults to me! I’m not trying to cause contention, I’m just repeating your words against me! And what ego, I could never come close to a woman’s ego, never!

        No I’m not superior to no one, I’m just an old man, waiting for Jesus to return for me, in 1st thess. 4:14-17.

        • SUEZ: Are you listening to these other post’s, there comments are not just against me only, they include you also?

          • suez says:

            It doesn’t bother me coming from NON-Christians, It bothers me when it comes from proclaiming Christians, Steve. :) They have a excuse, they are children of the evil one. We should know better!!

          • Suez: You really do not know how much shame I feel inside of me, its hard for me to get close to my feelings, but when I went off on my scarey ride, but all I can say, I’m a sinner! We should know better, but we are still influnce by the evil one. He know exactly what buttons to push! And me as a stupid sinner, I allow him to push my buttons! God has nothing to do with our anger, it comes from Satan decieving us. But it upsets me when Ron, will not accept his anger that comes from Satan?

          • Ray says:

            It’s so easy to blame your emotions on some invisible superhuman entity than to take responsibility for your own actions isn’t it? Grow up people, really.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            satan always gets the blame. Anger, but sin not. A wise Master once said.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I will smite the shepherd that scatter the sheep, that same Master said again. How many have you scattered? Quit beating the sheep. You have been warned.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I forgive you, Pastor. God forgives you, Now please forgive yourself. My anger, I can deal with in peace. I have not sinned, but I have done God’s will. Why should I repent for that? If I hurt your feelings, then I’m sorry, Sir. Forgive me, but I will stand on God’s word, it is my Rock. Your flood of hate will not sway me. Neither will any man. For what you take for anger, is inside your heart, not mine. For what is in the heart of a man, will manifest from his mouth. God will judge us by what we speak, so be careful what you say.

          • suez says:

            Ron, your last two sentences reminds me of a scripture. I’m sure that is the one you were hinting at, in saying it. It is a good one for all of us. May we all remember this, and pray to the Lord to forgive us. Ask him to help us to walk in love and kindness in the Spirit of the Lord. Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. My we all seek to have a pure and loving heart. Stop all this bickering, and jabbing. Don’t we have enough to put up with all the non-christian and demon inspired people coming here? We should all join together to try and help these people to see the light of Christ and his free gift of salvation. This isn’t for you Personally Ron, but your comment made me remember this scripture. And I just thought we all needed a reminder of it. Love in Christ. s

        • suez says:

          It doesn’t Steve. That was my frustrated flesh woman rising up, because I am sick to death of your awful comments to people. Please forgive me. I am a sinner. but God has forgiven me…:)

          • SUEZ: Every time your bark at me, I have always forgiven you! I do not hold any hatred against any one. But it frustrates me, when Ron, will not allow me, Tracy. Levi, Mark, Becky to believe the way we want to believe. This man pushes his comments down our throats, for the way we believe in Scriptures. It like I come to you and try to tell you how to live your life, would you listen to me, NO! And it would be stupid on my part, to tell you?

            If we are wrong, I believe God will tell us?

            But it goes on and on with this man, as he stated is coming from God, but when he gets anger at us, calls us names, like clowns, liars, living in fairy tales, is that also coming from God?

            Just because I went to Bible College, this does not make me a teacher, I’m just a student learning every day! Its like going to college in Engreering, does that make him an expect in his field, it comes from many years of experience.

            If I was testing anyone, I would believe LEVI, has more understanding of scriptures and it comes with alot of patience from him. But I believe Ron, thinks he’s running a race against Levi, and Ron, just has to win this race.

            As Tracy said, drop it, allow us to believe our way and you can believe your way,ok?

            But I will always love you as my sister in Christ!

  69. Judge much says:

    You people are scary. Haters. I bet if Jesus appeared today, most of you would shun him and call him names. You are no more christian than my shoe. SMH….

  70. marc says:

    Lol at you people … smh

  71. Ray says:

    These kinds of people, (Christards) need to be medicated before they hurt themselves or worse, someone else. People with this level of delusion are dangerous.

    • Ray: Please tell me where sin comes from?

      And you do not seem that Satan can influence us?

      If their was no sin, and we are the problem of our own making, then why is this world getting worse by the day?

      • Ray says:

        Define “sin”.

        Satan? The character from the bible? No, I don’t believe that mythical gobblins have any actual influence on people. Those with mental deficiencies are however, influenced by the belief that magical creatures can influence their actions. Those people are extremely detrimental to a peaceful society and need to be helped by professional mental health care.

        In what way is the world getting worse?

        • Ron Murphy says:

          Queers for one thing, they have taken over. I think straight people should give up California, and move out let all gays have it, and see just what happens then. Now that would answer things one way or another.

          • RoN: If you don’t mind, answer Ray’s question, define sin? Who created Sin?

            I believe Ray came from a test tube?

          • Ray says:

            The question was for you, pastor steven larue. You said:

            //Ray: Please tell me where sin comes from?//

            I asked you to define sin.

            Why are you asking someone else to answer?

        • suez says:

          Oh, my! You poor man. So if you don’t beleive there is a devil, you must not believe there is a God. Your a fool Sir: “Psa 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.’ I hope you will wake up before Jesus comes back, or you will be finding out for sure there is that “mythical gobblin”, as you put it. For you shall share Hell with him for all eternity!! I pray the God of the Bible show himself to you!!! :(

          • SUEZ: If Ray doesn’t believe in the devil. Then he must not believe in God, then he does not believe in the words of the Bible?

            I wonder if he believes in any higher power than himself?

          • Ray says:

            Yeah, I am sooo silly, not to believe in a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father because he knocked up a little Jewish girl, so he could sacrifice himself to himself and can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree… SMH

          • suez says:

            You truly are a sick, twisted, and evil person Ray. God help you!! You have no idea the coals of fire, you are heaping upon yourself. God will not be mocked, nor will he allow his children to be scorned. He will repay. Enjoy your deception and wallow in it while you can. Pay day is coming. And that is Gods Judgement. And boy, you will be singing a different tune then, but it will be too late for you and those like you….:(

          • Ray says:

            Sick, twisted and evil? I didn’t make up the cosmic Jewish zombie story. That comes straight from your bible. I can tell you really get off on the thought of people being tormented and telling others how horrible they are going to be treated by your loving god. But, I’m sick. Yeah, ok,. ;)

          • suez says:

            I tell you nothing. That is what the Bible says Ray. It is because man has sinned against a Holy God. He can not tolerate sin. If you would start reading the Bible yourself, maybe you might just see things from a different prospective!!

      • Ray says:

        Oh, and just a little heads up. Your premise:

        “If their was no sin, and we are the problem of our own making, then why is this world getting worse by the day?”

        Is a total non sequitur.

        • Ron Murphy says:

          You answered your own question, Ray.

          • Ray says:

            Nice try but no. Thinking and using one’s own rational capabilities is a skill that everyone should strive to achieve.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            The Bible speaks of your kind. Einstein, Go build another bomb.

          • suez says:

            LOL,,,:) good one Ron

          • Ray, You asked what about genetic people, that’s a good question, but I have no ansers to those question of yours, I have enough problems trying to figure out why I do this or that, sometimes there is no answers? That why we believe in faith, if Jesus wanted us to know that, maybe when I get to heaven, he’ll tell it to me? But i believe I’ll be so happy there, all these things that happen in my life time, will not matter to me anymore?

  72. Little bird says:

    Hi Roman I think it is awesome that you are helping. I am a divorced woman woo hoo!!!! j/k Well my husband would not stop seeing his mistress so I said so l had to say uh buh bye. I think there is a scripture somewhere that says if they commint adultry you have a right to a divorce but I could be wrong. Anybody???? Suez???

    • suez says:

      Yes, there is Little Bird. Like I tried to say. Divorce is not always black and white. There is always things that can account for them. There is this scripture. I feel it can work in both sexes, but if anyone here can offer anything other than this, please do so. “Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Little Bird, I would say that would free you if your hubby was a adulterer. But some may disagree. If so I hope they speak up…LOL I am open to knowing more!! I know if I were in your shoes, I would be gone in a flash…LOL ;) Unless he repented to the Lord and me, and turned his life truly over to the Lord, and never did it again. God Bless and keep you!! :)

      • Little bird says:

        Yeah well we got back together for a little while but he would not stop seeing her. We were even going to counseling and he was still doing it. Anyway that was 5 years ago so I am doing better now. I was not saved when I met him but accepted Jesus. He was a Christian but now is not serving the lord it’s sad. The woman he cheated with left him. I still pray for him as he is an example for our children. I hope he will come back to God someday

        • suez says:

          Little Bird, I am sorry, that must have been horrible. Yes it is said when someone falls. I will agree with you, in that your ex repents and comes back to the Lord. He may have to hit rock bottom to do so, but God has ways of pulling his Children back to him If he was truly
          a Born Again Christian, I believe the Lord will bring him back. Some may disagree, but that is my hope. I can’t find the verse I wanted to find right now. If I find it I will post it for you. I thought it was something about God is married to the back-slider. Maybe someone else knows where it is. But I will post these.: God Bless you Little Bird!! Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
          Pro 14:13 Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirth is heaviness.
          Pro 14:14 The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways: and a good man shall be satisfied from himself.
          Pro 14:15 The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.
          Pro 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.
          Pro 14:17 He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly: and a man of wicked devices is hated.

  73. Little bird says:

    Hi Roman I think it is awesome that you are helping. I am a divorced woman woo hoo!!!! j/k Well my husband would not stop seeing his mistress so I said so l had to say uh buh bye. I think there is a scripture somewhere that says if they commit adultery you have a right to a divorce but I could be wrong. Anybody???? Suez???

  74. TexasRedNeck says:

    >>> Judge much <<<
    Judge NOT !!!

    • suez says:

      Just so you know I watched your video sir. Very sad how you miss-lead people…:( Change words that people really didn’t say into what you want it to say. :(

  75. One day, we all have to meet the maker of this world, and the bad that people created for theirselves, they will answer him?

    Or Ray, you believe we live in a fantasy, and this really is not real what is happen to us. That we are in control of ourselves, if that is true, then why can not we create Ethiopia?

  76. Ron: I’m not trying to bash your comments as you said you have not sinned!

    As for me, I sin every minute of each day!

    • suez says:

      Yes, Steve, I have started to notice that!! :) If your sinning every minute of every day, you better get off this computer and on your knees before God, because something is really wrong!!! We all fall short sometimes, but saying you sinning every min. of everyday. That would make you a non-christian wouldn’t it? Just saying…:(

      • SUZY: Yes, I sin alot in my mind, remember I’m a war veterans, I dream bad things, there not coming from God, so where do you think they come from? I have one little problems getting on my knees, there no one to help back in my chair, if its ok with you, I’ll just sit here, and pray all day, ok?

        • Mark says:

          Steve – We are not judged by things we have no control over, only things we can control. Dreams are something beyond our control, so we can’t sin by what we dream. We can only sin in the waking world, either in our minds, or by our actions. And often we sin without being aware of it.

          • suez says:

            Steve have you ever prayed that God would heal your memories of those war days? That he give you the peace that passes all understanding in your mind, and cover your mind with the blood of Christ Jesus. Do it daily! And pray he will send his angels to guard over you. Satan is attacking you in your mind. Take authority over him in Jesus name!! Tell him and his evil imps, get out and leave you, and cast them out to to the dry places, and order them to stay there until Christ puts them in there place!!!

          • SUZY: I honestly pray ever night to God just to get me through another day, I do believe sometimes God give me these tribulations, even if I suffer greatly, as I’ve been helping others in my same problems, War Veterans. I always believe in Psalms 91. Remember Job, how he suffered greatly? I hate bringing up old memories, but Ron said we have to suffer in the Tribulation to prove to God we are justified to go to heaven. I’m not boasting, but I suffer greatly from my service to my country every day of my life for the 40 years or so, does not that count for something to my Lord God? Its terrible living in this body and mind, my war is my Tribulation!

          • suez says:

            I honestly pray ever night to God just to get me through another day. But do you pray how I just asked you to pray? There is a big difference in how and what we pray Steve. God said:2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds;) You need to start pulling down strongholds. If you can’t do it yourself, find a church that believes in deliverance, and go there and have them pray for you. I’m not kidding. It is a attack from the evil one on you. “Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
            Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
            Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
            Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
            Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
            Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
            Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
            Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
            Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;”
            Steve, I hope I’m not opening a can of worms here,,,lol but have you ever been filled with the Holy Ghost? Like in acts?

          • Ron Murphy says:

            A little anointing on the head will go far, also.

        • suez says:

          Getting on your knee’s to me, means bowing your heart and humbling yourself to God Steve. I didn’t mean literally…I can’t get on my knees either anymore, sadly!! It was a analogy. :)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Good point Sue. My Pastor friend allows the elderly to come and sit on the altar, to pray. I mean who else would you want to pray for you, than the elders of the church. Many come to sit and pray that otherwise would be restricted from doing so. I have to commend him for that. I think it should be practiced in all churches, that believe in praying at the altars.

      • SUZY: This might sound very rude to you, but I’m so happy God supllied me with a Mexican wife, she still believes I wear the pants in this family. American women are something else?

        • suez says:

          Well that is good. I submit to my husband also. But I also want him to love me and treat me as Christ loves and treats the church!!! :) It goes both ways you see!!

  77. Ron; You asked me why I’m asking you, as you said your the teacher of Scripture, with all that knowledge in you, I thought you would want to do God’s work, getting this man saved?
    And I have listen to your comments you do not believe I’m a Pastor, basically a no body. Since this is what you think of me, please help this man, but I believe it will take alot of patience from you to change his mind?

    • Ron Murphy says:

      I love you, man.

    • Ron Murphy says:

      How can I help him, Pastor. He says there is no God. How can I help that, all I can do is say You would have to experience it for yourself. I know God is real because of the faith I have had in his word and by me following his word and see the things manifest the way He says it will. I proclaim God to be more real than anything I know. How can you know for yourself? He said try Me. See if I am. He is a personal Savior, Ray, you will have to believe on your own. Learn from your personal experience of what God is through his word, Reading it is one thing, believing it is another. God will manifest himself to you, if you allow him to. I can personally promise you that, because that is his promise to you. He has never lied to me and I know he never will.

  78. Ray says:

    Of those killed or injured in the tornado, how many were gay? How many supported gays? Are you going to tell the woman who had to identify the body of her little girl that her daughter suffered a terrifyingly horrible death because of a parade? You people are insane. You have no human empathy.

    • suez says:

      Ray, no one here has all the answers to everything that happens in the world. Only God has the answers. We can try to reason things out, but only God has all truth. We love you, and pray the best for you. We love the people of OLA. and we all are praying for them, I am sure. We do not understand everything God does, or why he does it. We can only guess, and try with our little minds to understand. But we really will not know or have all the answers until Jesus comes back for his church. Until he does come back, we just have to trust him in all things, and give our lives to him. My best to you. suez

  79. SUZY: I missed read it then, see I sin again? God forgive me!

  80. Ray: Listen to SUEZ and LEVI, there trying to help you, we all have alot of pain build up in us, and being human we say stupid comments to each other, it not done in hatred, we just have our own opinions, and sometimes we do not express them correctly to others, at least I’m a fool, doing this to others, but by knowing I have sinned against others, and alot of time, people will not forgive me for my vile comments and sometime they will not let me forget them either. But when I go to my Savior Jesus Christ I know down deep in my heart and mind, he’ll for give me of these sins I commit against others and He forgets them forever! He’ll never bring them up and throw them in my face! Please just listen to Levi, he has a large amount of patience, just talk to him!

  81. SUSIE: I pray every night every day, every meal, sometime I pray on the toilet. LOL but God has blessed me, with so many things in my life, every time I was in need He was always there for me and with my life style being homeless, he always sent His angels to support me, when I needed help from Him. He always has a reason for us, we just need to wait for His answer! I’ve waiting a long time, but he said, have patience in me, so I know He’ll always support me! I blessed Him to send me a cool breeze on a hot day, but soon I’ll be in His arms telling me in His voice He always loved me!

    • Mark says:

      Steve – Just hold your head up high ;-) Being of the flock, we are all forever blessed, no matter our life trials and issues.

      From Pauls holy desk…

      Rom 3:24 KJV – Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

      Rom 8:1 KJV – There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

      Rom 8:2 KJV – For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

      Rom 8:39 KJV – Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

      Rom 15:5 KJV – Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:

  82. suez says:

    Ok, nice fellowship tonight. Way past my night night time. Goodnight all, and sweet sleep in Jesus arms!

  83. how many deaths and disasters more must come to pass…?

    • Frodo: Thjat’s up to God, not us!
      Frodo: Can’t you see Ray is in pain in his life, and you just give out insults, you do not see forgiveness in your heart. Maybe you act this way, because you have a inner pain growing within yourself. Read the complete scriptures, they will teach yourself to relize to be humble with others!

  84. i red almost all the comments here. it’s kinda sad, it’s kinda funny too, but can i have my chance too?

    On homosexuality:
    1. if homosexuality is normal, then there should be a homo dog, or a homo cat… so far i haven’t seen one.
    2. if homosexuality is normal, then there should be a homosexual washroom… so far, i haven’t seen one…only for MEN and WOMEN.

    For Ray:
    the world is not getting worse, dude… it’s going back to being worst like in the past. and please don’t label the Bible as fiction… there are archeological evidences to support Biblical facts…you’re unimformed and yet you draw your own conclusions. but mostly, please don’t mock only the living God… i thank Him He doesn’t strike you will a 10,000 volt lightning right now!

    thanks for reading.

    • suez says:

      Oh, my goodness. That reminds me. A family resturant we go to here in town now has a restroom, that says, Uni-sex…I nearly fainted when I seen that. There is a man’s, a woman’s and a Uni-sex!! Gasp!!!

  85. there also some comments as to why God chosed some innocent place like Oklahoma rather than California where the abomination is taking place…

    well that is because God takes out the innocent first before the wicked…

    more and more wicked people are sprouting every day coz the great tribulation is about to start…

    well, to all the wicked, unbelieving people… enjoy what you do while you still can

  86. SUEZ: I miss spoke it was Ron talking about annointing me, sorry!

  87. Ron: With the UNISEX Bathrooms, I wonder the next law will be that women need to stand, when they do there thing! LOL

    • Ron Murphy says:

      You’re to funny, Pastor. Thank you, Sir for what you’ve done for our country. It’s a honor to have fellowship with you. please try that oil to your head before sleep, lets see if it works. Just don’t forget to pray over it. Rest well tonight, Brother.

      • Ron: All I got is cooking oil, really I do not believe it been blessed? LOL

        • Ron Murphy says:

          Use it Pastor, we will pray over it here. You bless it there, Brother. Buy you some good oil tomorrow or when you can.

          • suez says:

            Olive oil is the best. It is “the oil of our people”!! Meaning Israel, but we are grafted in,,,right!! :) Steve you never answered my question. Have you been filled with the Holy Ghost,,,since you believed? You need to read Acts again. It will open up Gods word to you in a way you never knew before, if you would ask the Lord to Baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire!!!

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Amen! 100% right.

  88. Hi Ron your friend might not believe cause the world is in .such a mess.I use different terminology with unbelievers which gets the point across.
    What convinced me to come to The Lord was one scripture that made sense to me 1 John 5v19 .We know we are of God and the whole world is in the hands of the evil one. That made sense to me .I didnt believe in God and I thought the world was pretty f…….d up.
    Then it was explained to me .Its like I am in a dark room all my life and Jesus is just waiting for me to open that door and let Him in. And I wouldnt know I was in that room and there was light and a new life outside that dark room until I stepped outside that room
    .And the final thing after hearing the Gospel and not responding to it in a Church was these words….Michael you heard the truth tonight once you have heard the truth you are responsible for that truth and should you die you will GO TO HELL..
    I dont remember a word from the pastors sermon .I remember my heart beating furiously when the altar call was given. And for one whole hour I could only HEAR THE WORD OF GOD Spoken to me YOU WILL GO TO HELL.repeating itself.
    I couldnt dismiss those words from my mind so when the brother said again Do you want to give your life to Him .I said I guess so so I got down on my knees expecting nothing to happen .I wont go into it lets just war in my mind began confessing and repenting and crying to God for my sin and He Saved me and filled me.Then i knew God was real the devil was real .Adam and Eve and the fall was real.

    It is only God who draws you we are just seed sowers another waters but God gives the growth.Another thing i say to people is there are 2 ways you can find out if this is real.1 Get born Again find God now on this earth or die and goto Hell and for ever you will be wishing you listened to me .You are welcome to contact me at my email address michaeljd777@yahoo.com.au .Hope this has been some help Mike D

    • suez says:

      Beautiful testimony Mike Davis!!! Praise God! Yes, we can stand before Jesus at the Cross, or we can stand before him at the throne of Judgement!! Two ways, but very different ways. I for one choose the Cross!! Bless you brother, glad to have you here!! Yours in Christ, suez :)

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Thank you for that advice, Mike. I know that God deals with different people in different ways. You can Preach until your heart falls out be if the calling of the spirit is not there, then it’s all in vein. God uses different people for different callings, also. I thank what I said to Ray was all I could say to him at the time. I didn’t sense, the spirit calling Ray. I’m usually very sensitive to that discernment. So if it was Ray’s time it wasn’t my place to do it. I had said to much against him to begin with, as he upheld against our children. I will stay on the side of what is right. If a man wants to be perverted that’s one thing, but to involve our children is another. God bless you, Brother Mike.

  89. SUEZ: How about using UNISEX oil on me?

    • suez says:

      Now your getting sickening Steve, would you please take the Pastor off of your name. Your doing it such an injustice!!!! Or is that what your intentions are in the first place! :(

      • Ron Murphy says:

        I’ve been waiting on you for that. If you had not of got him, I was going to. Glad to see you did, Sue. :)

        • suez says:

          Well I was trying hard to ignore him, but alas, I couldn’t…:( I just don’t get it??? Well maybe I do, but a lot of people are not getting it!! :( Like I said…BAITER

  90. Ron: You said you approve of UNISEX Bathrooms?

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Why not , Pastor as long as the men as women have their own, unisex should have one, too. Beside I don’t want them using my bathroom.

      • Ron: Are you that stupid? Gays are not getting their own bathrooms, there taking over your bathrooms, each bathroom that was, female or males are UNISEX now! No wonder you have problems, answering Levi’s questions?

        • Ron Murphy says:

          Now Pastor I don’t have any problem answering Levi’s questions or yours as far as that goes. put I refuse to answer them in the manner you wish me to answer them. I have my own mine, I try keeping it on Jesus. Isn’t that what we’re supposed to be doing? It much better than bathrooms.

  91. Ron Murphy says:

    Not stupid just take it all in lightness, no sense in getting bend out of shape over the little things, when big things are on the way. I was just kidding around. I take only the word of God seriously or when compassion is in order. Unisex bathroom is the last thing I care to think about. Besides the one that took the locks off the doors are the ones that are perverted. :)

  92. RON: Now your saying you were kidding around, everyone uses LOL for kidding around, I did not see that on your statement?

    • suez says:

      Steve, will you ever grow up and STOP badgering people????? It is getting really sickening!!! I don’t understand you. You can go along fine for awhile, it seems like in the daytime your not to bad. But starting in the evenings, you change and start being your old badgering, baiting self again. Please, please stop! No one here likes it!!! And your only making a fool of yourself, wheather you believe it or not!! :(

    • Ron Murphy says:

      You can take it anyway you like it, pastor. It really doesn’t matter to me, I’m not out to please man anyway. I just think toilets is an issue, I prefer to stay away from.

  93. SUEZ: If you do not like my comments, please do not send you insults back to me, I have just the same right to comment as you do?

    • suez says:

      Yes you do. But your not just commenting like the rest of us. You say sick things, and are bashing people. Their is a big difference! I don’t like having men say sorted things to me. And I for one will not stand for it. If you don’t like what I come back with, then stop saying stupid things! Comprehend??

      • SUEZZZZZZZ: I’m not a crowd pleaser! If this crowd told you to jump off a 20 story building would you do it? And I enjoy not joining your crowd: Do you get the point also, take your ERA some where else, I do not buy it! You should blush up on the Book of Timothy! Remember Jesus is a male?

        • suez says:

          I will let you on a little secret Steve. You said your not a crowd pleaser? Well by your comments to people,and the things that come out of your mouth, your not a God pleaser either!!! Jesus would never say the things you say to people. Insulting his children, saying vile things to women. Threatening to shoot people. No you are not pleasing to the Lord. For that I am sad for you! But, oh I forgot, the devil made you do it, right???

          • SUEZZZZ: Your stating your a Christian but you can bring up old memories of my past? Good Job! When I go to Jesus and ask forgiveness of my sinns, he forgets them, but your loving Christian and you bring up my past mistakes, have you ask God, forgiveness bring up my past mistakes, I do not think so, so your proving your a christian in name only, you know where these types go?

          • suez says:

            Old memories, those were things you just posted a few hours ago…LOL So they are not old things. LOL LOL LOL LOL

  94. SUEZ: How crappy will the subject be when someone gets kill over it?

  95. Susan or SUEZZZZZZ: Mind your own business, just like you told me, but to you is a one way conversation, your way!

    • suez says:

      Rolling my eyes…Ah, yes, it is night-time and Steve is howling at the moon again tonight I see!! Better take some meds Steve, your fangs are showing!!! :)

  96. RON: How you going to get me! Are you threatening me, maybe your a terrorist?

    You can’t even answers Levi’s questions about scriptures!

    • suez says:

      And on, and on, and on and on we go, with the same old crap. Get over it and start praising God. Quote some scripture or something useful!!! Like this::: sa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
      Psa 91:2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
      Psa 91:3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
      Psa 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
      Psa 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
      Psa 91:6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
      Psa 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
      Psa 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
      Psa 91:9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
      Psa 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
      Psa 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
      Psa 91:12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
      Psa 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet
      Psa 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
      Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honor him.
      Psa 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

    • suez says:

      Ron, answer the question…Ron answer the question; Ron, answer the question, Ron answer the question, Ron answer the question, Ron, answer the question, Ron, answer the question, Ron, answer the question, Ron answer the question…..Remind you of anyone????? Te He!! :)

  97. SUEZZZZ: Your not going to take it anymore? Is that a bodily Threat? I can hear you screaming?????????

  98. RON: At least I can not please you! If you do not like my come backs, have me removed, email NTEB!

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Why should I have you removed? All you ever done to me is threaten my life, for the sake of God’s word in which you reject. I would be pleased to go out that way. At lease I wouldn’t have to worry about tribulation. So really I have no need of having you remove. But What I was going to say to you in defense of Sue was, Quit letting your flesh lust after your sister in Christ Love what the Lord gave you and be content with what you have. For what you did, Steve, was uncalled for and very insulting, but you seem to thrive on these things, these days, I wonder why? And another thing, I can not answer questions that don’t get asked. And if I answer questions you will call me a liar, and refuse my answer. I remember a bunch like that, I once read in a Book they ended up crucifying the man, sad story, but all turned out well.

  99. SUEZZZZ: Something wrong, did I get that woman ERA all worked up, now your done! Just can’t deal with a man issues?

  100. suez says:

    Your not a man, you are pathetic!!!

  101. SUEZZZZ: Now, your acting like a woman, your lieing? I never brought up the comments since last week about shooting someone. So see how you enjoying lieing to everyone? If I was standing in front of you, you be slapping the crap out of me! Do you like fishing , because the smell is really getting a little smelly from you. Men don’t smell like fish?

  102. Ron: when you stirred my anger against you, I didn’t want to kill you, just shoot you!LOL Since your just like SUEZ, always bring up someones faults against them, and tossing it back into their face, is that christian love from you! Remember two wrongs do not make it right? So you just prove that your atitude is not christian-like? So do you think God accepts you when you act this way and remember your a teacher of Scriptures, your held more accountable than even me, as you said, I’m no Pastor, which doesn’t hurt my feelings at all?

    So are you walking as God intended you to do with others. Are you a good witness to God? But your only bringing shame on yourself?

  103. Joseph says:

    For the first time I just read posts 276 and on. Something is seriously wrong.

    • Joseph: God’s not destroying this planet, its mankind? And if we have it our way, we would totally destroy this planet, where no one could live on it, that why I believe God’s stepping in to stop mankind destroying this planet.

  104. Joseph says:

    God bless you Suez. This is not something a gentleman should ever say. Never mind one who proclaims to be a pastor.

    pastor steven larue:

    SUEZ: How about using UNISEX oil on me?

    • Joseph: It was a joke! About UNISEX oil. Why are you all so stuff shirts! Remember God created humor?

      Joesph, are you without sin? Because your casting alot of stones toward my direction!

      • Joseph says:

        I assure you Steven God does NOT approve of your perverted humor towards women. We are to cherish and respect women. If I ever heard my son speak to a lady ss you did……

    • Joseph: Are you a sef proclaimed christian, your comments are not christian like, SUEZ and RON have problems with Pride, and allowing other their comments, if you do not join their crowd, your an out cast! Jesus was not a crowd pleaser?

    • suez says:

      Thank you Joseph, it is nice to see a man be so kind. I can not believe NTEB lets someone on here that says that kind of thing remain here. It is sick and perverted. God Bless you Joseph! :)

      • SUEZ: How about your women liberation, women loves to be in control. When you gat to the Tribulation, Satan & Antichrist is male too, how kind of ungentleman you think they are going to treat you? Remember this will always be a man’s world and even in heaven. God’s a male, angels are males, all the Prophets are male’s, the Apostles are male’s, doesn’t leave much room for a woman?

        As you said, I can’t believe why NTEB allows this sick and perverted person here. If I bother you so much, then go to a Post-Tribber web site!

        On this web site people speak the truth to you boldly, if you want lies, go to a Post-Tribbers web site?

        • suez says:

          First I am not, nor ever been a women’s libber, contrary to your twisted belief. You worry so much about people who have different opinions than you, about the Rapture, why does NTEB let us here? Why do they let you here? They are King James,,,,YOU ARE NOT! I am!! So what say you about that Steven??? You just don’t understand, it doesn’t matter what our viewpoint is on the catching away. God will have it be when he WILLS it to be. Until that time, we just try and wait patiently and look eagerly for Jesus return!

  105. SUEZ: You do not need to worry about my soul, I’m forgiven by Jesus Christ, you need to worry about your soul?

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    Mr. Elliott,
    Letters via USPS sounds so novel in the internet age even if it is one letter produced for many, but it really doesn’t sound like a pen-pal relationship. Can one particular write again for the author of the letter?

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