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Pope Francis Tells Interviewer That Jesus Christ Was Born As ‘Exceptional Man’ But He Was ‘Not At All A God’ As Vatican Doesn’t Deny Or Demand Correction Of Account

In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis tells interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari that Jesus of Nazareth was not God while incarnate as a man.

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In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis’ longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a “man of exceptional virtues” but “not at all a God.”
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Pope Francis told me: ‘They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'”

The most amazing thing about this story is that neither Pope Francis nor the Vatican had denied the pope made these statements, and neither have they asked La Repubblica to correct the account or retract the statements in full. So that leads me to believe that Pope Francis did indeed make them, and that this shocking accounting is indeed true and accurate. Don’t forget that Eugenio Scalfari and Pope Francis are longtime friends. Scarfari would not misrepresent his dear friend, and the pope feels comfortable enough around him because of that friendship to let his guard down.

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)

But Pope Francis has a long and proven track record of denying Jesus Christ, and making statements like it is ‘dangerous to have a personal relationship with Jesus‘. Last year with the same interviewer Scalfari and also in La Repubblica, Pope Francis said that ‘Hell is not real‘ and never denied saying that, either, and the Vatican never asked for a correction or retraction. So maybe we should ask ourselves why Pope Francis is continuing to make these outrageous statements.

“For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Isaiah 14:13,14 (KJV)

If you have been following our reporting on the Catholic Church and Chrislam, then you already know why the pope makes these types of statements. Because as he continues to assemble the One World Religion, he thinks of himself as a god, not unlike the passages we read in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 about Lucifer. Now you know, tell a friend.

Eugenio Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a ‘Man … Not at All a God’

FROM CNS NEWS: In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis’ longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a “man of exceptional virtues” but “not at all a God.”

The teaching of the Catholic Church and most Christian churches is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was incarnated as fully man and fully God.

As the Catechism of the Catholic Church states, “The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man. During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it. (464)”

According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: “Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate.”

“Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross.”

Scalfari continues, “When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: ‘They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'”

In a March 2018 interview with Scalfari, Pope Francis reportedly said, “There is no Hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls.”

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That interview caused an uproar and the Vatican claimed that what the Pope reportedly said was a “reconstruction” and not “quoted.” The Vatican did not deny what Scalfari reported but said it could not “be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

The Pope himself never denied what Scalfari reported and the article never ran a correction or removed the article from its website.

Commenting on this latest revelation, Rorate Caeli said, “Now, obviously, as it has often happened with Francis’ informal interviews with Eugenio Scalfari, some will try to deny the veracity of what Scalfari, a seasoned journalist, affirms.

“Let us just recall, for the record of events, that there is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes.

“Not now, that the papal interviews to Scalfari have been published on the Vatican website, that they have been occasionally published by the Vatican publishing house (LEV) itself – for instance, as part of the book to the right.”

In a statement issued Oct. 9, reported by Church Militant in Rome,  the Vatican said, “As has been affirmed in other occasions, the words that Dr. Eugenio Scalfari attributes between quotes to the Holy Father during his colloquies held with him cannot be considered as a faithful account of what was effectively said, but represent more a personal and free interpretation of that which he heard, as appears entirely evident from what was written today concerning the divinity of Jesus Christ.”

Church Militant’s Michael Voris commented, “That is the relevant part of the statement, and it, in itself, is now creating its own firestorm because it does not actually deny Scalfari’s characterization, merely hinting at the possibility.”

“Likewise, it does not affirm in any fashion that Pope Francis does indeed hold the divinity of Christ during Our Savior’s earthly ministry,” said Voris. READ MORE

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NTEB SUNDAY SERVICE: The Apostle Paul Commands Us To Follow Him And Shows Us How We Are To Think Of And Act Towards The Jews And Israel

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The apostle Paul commands us to follow him and shows us how to think of the Jews and Israel according to God’s plan for them

There is a great confusion in American Christianity today, one that threatens to tear it self apart at the seams. Many professing Christians have no idea how God views the Jews and Israel, and no clue as to His redemptive plan for them. We who believe are called, commanded, to follow the apostle Paul as he follows Jesus. My message today will give you a good idea of what exactly that means, and the costs associated with answering that call. Preached live this morning at the Bible Believers Church inside the NTEB Bookstore. Services every Sunday morning starting at 11:00 AM in Palatka, Florida.

“Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.” I Corinthians 4:16 (KJB)

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“I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.” Romans 9:1-5 (KJB)

“Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.” Romans 10:1 (KJB) 

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” Romans 11:25 (KJB)

“Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.” 1 Corinthians 4:11-17 (KJB)

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Season 3 Of ’24’ With Counter-Terrorist Hero Jack Bauer Turns Out To Be A Treasure Trove Of Predictive Programming About Trump Twin Presidencies

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Season 3 of quarter-century old television hit ’24’ contains incredible predictive programming references to Donald Trump’s first and second terms

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, a television show called ’24’ was launched, and in it main character Jack Bauer leads a counter-terrorism Federal agency called CTU to deal with evolving threats against the United States and its people. ’24’ debuted in the ashes of the fallen Twin Towers, before Facebook and social media, before smart phones and before streaming programming from Netflix and Hulu. In short, ’24’ is a dinosaur that’s now nearly a quarter-century old, and yet inexplicably contains stunning predictive programming that directly foreshadows Donald Trump’s first and second presidencies.

“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:” Isaiah 46:10 (KJB)

The first two seasons of ’24’ are pretty good, and here we are introduced to the iconic character of Jack Bauer played by Kiefer Sutherland, but it’s in Season 3 that our story today is centered around.

  • In Chinatown in Los Angeles, we see shadowy figures who have a biological weapon.
  • That weapon is called the Cordilla virus.
  • The Cordilla virus is released in the Chandler Plaza Hotel  which is then put on lockdown.
  • The terrorist who has the virus in a phone call to CTU says he is doing it to ‘Make America Clean Again’.
  • Fictional president David Palmer is forced to do what the bioterrorists are making him do.

So let’s see if I have this right. A man-made Cordilla virus is released from Chinatown which triggers a lockdown and escalating body count. The fictional Chandler Plaza Hotel is an obvious reference to the Trump Plaza Hotel in New York City. It was in the first Trump presidency that we were subjected to the COVID virus released from a lab in China that put the world on lockdown, a lockdown initiated by Donald Trump. The man who is releasing the virus says he wants to ‘make America clean again’ in Day 3 between the hours of 7:00am – 8:00am. In April of this year, President Trump hosted the Make America Clean Again Gala at Mar-a-Lago. Oh, one more thing, throughout the entire season, fictional President Palmer is being forced to carry out the will of the bioterrorist who has the Cordilla virus. The president is not calling the shots, is not in charge, just like Trump is not calling the shots right now.

Predictive Programming is an amazing thing, presenting you with ‘coincidences’ that are simply to amazing to believe, yet there they are. David Rockefeller back in 1991 thanked the main stream media for attending his Bilderberg meetings for  40 years, and for conspiring to never write about anything they saw or heard until the Deep State foundations could be put in place. Donald Trump in his second term is carrying out that agenda that has been in place since the aftermath of WWII. Everything we are watching now with Trump and the Epstein client list scandal has all been preplanned and prearranged.

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When you contribute to this fundraising effort, you are helping us to do what the Lord called us to do. The money you send in goes primarily to the overall daily operations of this site. When people ask for Bibles, we send them out at no charge. When people write in and say how much they would like gospel tracts but cannot afford them, we send them a box at no cost to them for either the tracts or the shipping, no matter where they are in the world. We have a Gospel Billboard program. We are now broadcasting Bible studies, Podcasts and a Sunday Service 5 times a week, thanks to your generous donations. All this is possible because YOU pray for us, YOU support us, and YOU give so we can continue growing.

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NTEB PROPHECY NEWS PODCAST: Could Weather Manipulation Companies Like Rainmaker Be Behind This Crazy Outbreak Of Flash Flooding This Year?

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What role do companies like Rainmaker and Microsoft play in the extreme weather and flash floods we’ve been experiencing this summer?

Recent flash floods in Kerrville, Texas; Ruidoso, New Mexico; Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and along the East Coast have made sensational headlines in recent days as tidal waves of roaring water has seemingly appeared out of nowhere. 115 so far are dead in Texas, untold number of deaths in North Carolina, 3 people died in Mexico. What role might chemtrails and cloud seeding play in all this? As it turns out, a lot, and that’s the memo.

“He gave them hail for rain, and flaming fire in their land.” Psalm 105:32 (KJB)

On this episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, Augustus Doricko knew when he founded cloud-seeding start-up Rainmaker in 2023 that he’d have to contend with misunderstandings and conspiracy theories surrounding the technology. Still, he wasn’t quite prepared for the sheer volume of online fury he has faced in the wake of the catastrophic Texas floods that have killed more than 100 people and nearly twice that many missing.  Doricko and his company, Rainmaker, have become a focal point of posts spiraling across social media that suggest the floods in Kerr County were a human-made disaster. An array of influencers, media personalities, elected officials and other prominent figures — including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Georgia) and former Trump adviser Michael Flynn — have publicly raised the possibility that cloud-seeding operations like Rainmaker’s might have caused or at least exacerbated the historic deluge. Is there any truth to all this? Today we take a deeper look into the weather, and the people lurking the shadows who insist on manipulating it for control and profit.

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