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Pope Francis Tells Interviewer That Jesus Christ Was Born As ‘Exceptional Man’ But He Was ‘Not At All A God’ As Vatican Doesn’t Deny Or Demand Correction Of Account

In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis tells interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari that Jesus of Nazareth was not God while incarnate as a man.

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In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis’ longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a “man of exceptional virtues” but “not at all a God.”
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Pope Francis told me: ‘They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'”

The most amazing thing about this story is that neither Pope Francis nor the Vatican had denied the pope made these statements, and neither have they asked La Repubblica to correct the account or retract the statements in full. So that leads me to believe that Pope Francis did indeed make them, and that this shocking accounting is indeed true and accurate. Don’t forget that Eugenio Scalfari and Pope Francis are longtime friends. Scarfari would not misrepresent his dear friend, and the pope feels comfortable enough around him because of that friendship to let his guard down.

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)

But Pope Francis has a long and proven track record of denying Jesus Christ, and making statements like it is ‘dangerous to have a personal relationship with Jesus‘. Last year with the same interviewer Scalfari and also in La Repubblica, Pope Francis said that ‘Hell is not real‘ and never denied saying that, either, and the Vatican never asked for a correction or retraction. So maybe we should ask ourselves why Pope Francis is continuing to make these outrageous statements.

“For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Isaiah 14:13,14 (KJV)

If you have been following our reporting on the Catholic Church and Chrislam, then you already know why the pope makes these types of statements. Because as he continues to assemble the One World Religion, he thinks of himself as a god, not unlike the passages we read in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 about Lucifer. Now you know, tell a friend.

Eugenio Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a ‘Man … Not at All a God’

FROM CNS NEWS: In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis’ longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a “man of exceptional virtues” but “not at all a God.”

The teaching of the Catholic Church and most Christian churches is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was incarnated as fully man and fully God.

As the Catechism of the Catholic Church states, “The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man. During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it. (464)”

According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: “Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate.”

“Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross.”

Scalfari continues, “When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: ‘They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'”

In a March 2018 interview with Scalfari, Pope Francis reportedly said, “There is no Hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls.”

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That interview caused an uproar and the Vatican claimed that what the Pope reportedly said was a “reconstruction” and not “quoted.” The Vatican did not deny what Scalfari reported but said it could not “be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

The Pope himself never denied what Scalfari reported and the article never ran a correction or removed the article from its website.

Commenting on this latest revelation, Rorate Caeli said, “Now, obviously, as it has often happened with Francis’ informal interviews with Eugenio Scalfari, some will try to deny the veracity of what Scalfari, a seasoned journalist, affirms.

“Let us just recall, for the record of events, that there is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes.

“Not now, that the papal interviews to Scalfari have been published on the Vatican website, that they have been occasionally published by the Vatican publishing house (LEV) itself – for instance, as part of the book to the right.”

In a statement issued Oct. 9, reported by Church Militant in Rome,  the Vatican said, “As has been affirmed in other occasions, the words that Dr. Eugenio Scalfari attributes between quotes to the Holy Father during his colloquies held with him cannot be considered as a faithful account of what was effectively said, but represent more a personal and free interpretation of that which he heard, as appears entirely evident from what was written today concerning the divinity of Jesus Christ.”

Church Militant’s Michael Voris commented, “That is the relevant part of the statement, and it, in itself, is now creating its own firestorm because it does not actually deny Scalfari’s characterization, merely hinting at the possibility.”

“Likewise, it does not affirm in any fashion that Pope Francis does indeed hold the divinity of Christ during Our Savior’s earthly ministry,” said Voris. READ MORE

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The Children At The Glory Fellowship Orphanage Have Not Eaten A Meal In The Past Three Days, So We’re Stepping In To Help Keep Their Supply Lines Open

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The food has run out for the children at the Glory Fellowship Orphanage in Kenya, and the Lord has given us the calling to step in and do what we can

I got on a video call this morning with Pastor Dancan in Kenya for our weekly Bible Study and discipleship time, and almost immediately I could see he was highly preoccupied with something else. I asked him what was going on, and he said he was troubled because the local people who normally donate beans, rice, banans and oil to help feed the 84 kids in his charge had not supplied him with that recently, and he wasn’t quite sure how to solve the problem. When I asked how long it was since the children had eaten, and he said 3 days, that hit me hard.

“Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.” Isaiah 1:17 (KJB)

I will be honest, my first reaction upon hearing the kids hadn’t eaten in 3 days was not so much sadness, it was anger. Not anger at any person, but it made me mad that such a situation could take place. Fighting mad. So immediately, I instructed our contact in Kenya to deliver to Pastor Dancan enough rice, beans, maize, bananas, cooking oil and salt to solve the immediate need for all the children, some of which has already arrived at the orphanage. The rest, Lord willing, will arrive tomorrow. I am praying that we will be able to keep them fed for the next month or so, and that many reading this article will want to partner with us to meet this pressing need. But what we really need to do for them is get them self-sufficient by planting some basic crops and getting them some chickens, a goat and a cow. The cost to supply them with foodstuffs for the next month is $3,500, and I am right now researching the most feasible way to help them build a little farm. Christian, come and help us to do all this, we need you!!

If God has prospered you, please take a moment to click on the donate button to help us in this overwhelmingly urgent task of providing the children of Glory Fellowship Orphange with bibles, medicine, food and clean drinking water. We need your prayers, we need your generous financial support, and we need you to stand with us in the closing days of the Church Age. Thank you so very much, TO THE FIGHT!!!

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THE PROPHECY NEWS PODCAST: A Stunning Look At How Bible Prophecy Is Driving The Tech Titans To Build The Framework For The Coming Mark Of The Beast

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Technology Is Racing To Catch Up With Prophecy As Microneedle Tattoos, Biometric Currency And Vaccine Marks Emerge And Converge At The Same Time For Mark Of The Beast

Nearly two thousand years before electricity, computers, smartphones, cryptocurrency or biometric identification existed, the apostle John stood on the Isle of Patmos and saw a coming world system in which every person would receive a mark in their right hand or in their forehead, and without that mark no one would be permitted to buy or sell; its number would be Six hundred threescore and six. 666 staring you right in your face. John saw a human implantable, biometric device that would contol all buying and selling on a global basis. People have it backwards, it’s not technology driving to prophectic fulfillment, it’s prophecy driving the technology toward the Mark. Just look at what is rising before our very eyes.

“But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.” Daniel 10:21 (KJB)

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” Revelation 13:16-18 (KJB)

On this episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, Gates-funded researchers at MIT created a dissolving microneedle patch capable of delivering a vaccine while leaving an invisible, smartphone-readable quantum-dot record beneath human skin. Microsoft then produced patent number WO/2020/060606, a cryptocurrency system using bodily activity—pulse, heat, blood flow and brainwaves—as verified data within a digital-currency network. Emerging tech company CipherX has now brought dissolving microneedle tattoo technology out of the laboratory and into the marketplace, permanently placing pixel-like marks into human skin while simultaneously developing its S.M.A.R.T. vaccine patch that confirms successful vaccination with a tattoo. These are not random inventions wandering in unrelated directions; they are complementary pieces moving relentlessly toward the same destination—the body becoming the identity, the mark becoming the record, the biometric becoming the key, and the key determining access to the marketplace. No single institution has yet unveiled the completed Mark of the Beast because no single institution needs to. The system appears to be assembling itself, one vaccine patch, one digital identifier, one biometric sensor and one cryptocurrency transaction at a time. When the man of sin finally steps onto the world stage, he will not need to invent the machinery of Revelation 13; he will simply inherit it, unite it and demand worship through it. The Bible gave us the finished blueprint two thousand years ago, and now fallen man is manufacturing every component with breathtaking precision and rapidity. We are not waiting for prophecy to catch up with technology, technology is racing with all its might to catch up with King James Bible prophecy.

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CAMP MEETING PREVIEW!! We Are Partnering With Missionaries The Burtons To Open A Bible And Gospel Tract Printing Company In The Philippines

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NTEB and For His Glory Ministries Are Partnering To Open A Bible And Gospel Tract Printing And Distribution Center In The Philippines

The 8th NTEB Old-Fashioned Camp Meeting is officially one month away, and we are soooo excited to see everyone. As you know, our theme this is missions – local and foreign -and will be present a roster of speakers who are actively engaged in missions in these last days. Over the past several months, we have gotten to know and spend time with newlywed couple Mike and Michelle Burton, and we bring you the good news of their surrendering to be boots-on-the-ground missionaires to Angeles City in the Philippines. Not only that, NTEB will be partnering with them and their For His Glory Ministries, to open up a Bible printing facility and evangelization outpost! We just wrapped up a podcast with them, and you can watch it below. We have prayed a long time for the Lord to give us an opening in the Philippines, and now He has in a mighty and incredible way.

“And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them. ” Acts 16:9 (KJB)

Ever since we started our Free Bible Program, it has been our hearts desire to establish an NTEB base in the Philippines for the distrubution of Bibles in English and Tagalog, as well as gospel tracts and scripture portions. We get thousands of requests per year, and have always wanted to have a facility there. But try as we might, as we prayed for this over the years, the Lord never opened up that door for us, until now that is. Mike and Michelle, along with Philippine national Edgardo Gatchalian, have secured a location in Angeles City where they will not only be living, but will also serve as base of operations for printing Bibles and tracts, as well as a distrubution center. NTEB will be providing them with Bibles and tracts, as well as helping to cover some of the costs of getting their new facility up and running. Please pray about helping us to do this bold and mighty work for the Lord, and if God has prospered you, please click on the donate link to help us. We are going to need to raise right around $25,000 to launch the printing company and help with work on the facility. Come help us!!

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