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A Bible Believer Responds To John Piper’s Call For Christians To Not Be Armed

Now to me, the son of a WWII and Korea vet, and the brother to a United States Marine, this sounds like perfectly sound and rational thought processes coming from the desk of Mr. Falwell. And certainly, as a parent, taking every precaution we can to keep our kids safe I am all in favor of both as a Christian and as an American citizen. But John Piper sees it otherwise.

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So John Piper says it’s a sin to call the police when we are being threatened? I say that’s absolute hogwash, and so should you

“Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” Romans 14:4,5 (KJV)

Yesterday the chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, John Piper, published an article entitled “Should Christians Be Encouraged to Arm Themselves?” In the article he takes issue with Jerry Falwell, Jr. telling his students to go out and get their gun permits. Falwell said this:

“As the president of this university community of nearly 15,000 students and 7,000 faculty and staff, I take very seriously my responsibility to keep you safe in an increasingly dangerous world. That’s why in 2011 I asked our Board of Trustees to consider a concealed carry policy. It wasn’t because of Islamic terrorism, it was because what happened (just) up the road at Virginia Tech. More than 30 innocent students and faculty were murdered viciously and none of them had the ability to protect themselves. The day that happened, I thought we needed to do something different here at Liberty. We needed to have a way to protect our students, our faculty, so we instituted this free course in 2011. We were part of only a handful of schools in the United States that had taken that position at that time. Now many schools have followed suit. There are dozens and we have had 1,600 people take that course, 950 here now with concealed carry permits, and after I made those remarks on Friday we had 240 sign up for a course tomorrow night. I want to applaud you and thank you for taking steps to make our campus more safe. I recognize that not every one of you will (carry); it’s only for students 21 years and older.” source

Now to me, the son of a WWII and Korea vet, and the brother to a United States Marine, this sounds like perfectly sound and rational thought processes coming from the desk of Mr. Falwell. And certainly, as a parent, taking every precaution we can to keep our kids safe I am all in favor of both as a Christian and as an American citizen. But John Piper sees it otherwise. Here is an excerpt from his anti-gun article:

“As chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, I want to send a different message to our students, and to the readers of Desiring God, than Jerry Falwell, Jr. sent to the students of Liberty University in a campus chapel service on December 4. The apostle Peter teaches us that Christians will often find themselves in societies where we should expect and accept unjust mistreatment without retaliation. The early church, as we see her in Acts, expected and endured persecution without armed resistance, but rather with joyful suffering, prayer, and the word of God. A natural instinct is to boil this issue down to the question, “Can I shoot my wife’s assailant?” source

That, in brief, is the essence of Piper’s position, and you can read the entire article here. So let me just add a few brief points from the Bible believer position that I think will help to shed some additional light on the matter.

John Piper’s misapplication of scripture: All through his article, he constantly says things like “Peter never fought back when mistreated”, and “the apostles endured persecution without retaliation”, and so on. Yes, those thing are true, but they need to be read in context. The reason why the apostles never fought back was because the punishments and afflictions they received were because of preaching the gospel specifically, and the Bible does say that in the course of witnessing for Jesus Christ hardships, perils and afflictions certainly will come. When we preach on the street, I have never hit back at any of the mistreatment we have received because when were are ministering we are specifically engaged in preaching the gospel. But I find no verses in the Bible that advise me to just “sit back and take it” when walking down a crowded city street and someone tries to mug me. So based on Piper’s misapplication of scripture, his advice to his daughter would be to “just take it” when attacked by a predator on a college campus or other gathering of people. See how silly his position suddenly becomes? No, the apostles, as seen below, suffered for a very specific cause, for the gospel’s sake, and as such took it without rebuttal. But I dare say that if some crazed lunatic tried to sexually assault Peter’s wife, the tough-as-nails Galilean fisherman would have thrust him through with his sword, and rightly so.
“And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.” Acts 5:40 (KJV)
John Piper is not rightly dividing the Bible: Paul commands Timothy to “rightly divide” the scripture so that he will not make the mistake of trying to apply Bible verses written to the Jews and place them on the Church. In his article, Piper talks about “enduring to the end” from Matthew 24, a passage specifically written to Jews in the time of Jacob’s trouble. But Christians don’t “endure to the end” because we are 1). sealed until the day of redemption as found in Ephesians 1 & 4, and 2). we will not go through the time of Jacob’s trouble otherwise known as the Great Tribulation. “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,” 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV)
Many of his points are just ridiculous: One of his main theme points is that the christian should just “trust God” and everything will work itself out. The Bible believing Christian does trust God with the most important thing we have, and that is our souls. We trust Him to take us home to Heaven when we die, we place our eternal destiny in His hands alone. But until that day arrives, we live in a sin-cursed world that currently is ruled by the Devil! God gave us a brain for a reason, He wants us to do some thinking with it. Whenever we travel anywhere in a car, we always ask God to guide our path and get us to and from safely, right? But we also wear our seatbelts! I highly doubt that Piper and his whole family ride around in cars at high speeds unbelted. If Piper’s logic was followed to it’s natural conclusion seat belts would no longer be used because when using them our “faith would be in the seat belts” and not in God’s power to keep us safe. That’s just plain crazy. But yet Piper goes further still when he says that even calling the police when you are in danger “comes from a heart that is out of step with the mind of Christ. If one’s heart is controlled mainly by fear, or anger, or revenge, that sinful disposition may be expressed by using the police as well as taking up arms yourself.” So now it’s a sin to call the police when we are being threatened? Hogwash, and dangerous hogwash at that. “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” 1 Timothy 5:8 (KJV)

Conclusion: I honestly don’t know much about the ministry or beliefs of John Piper, I run in Bible believing circles and have not come across much if any of his work. But going on this particular article he has written, he comes across as an anti-gun liberal to me. God calls us to trust Him in all we do and with all we have, yet at the same time it is not a lack of faith to exercise and eat right to stay healthy. And it is not a lack of faith when we take common sense precautions to keep our loved ones safe in a sin-cursed world.

Famous media liberal, Geraldo Rivera, who almost always advocates for pacifism, nearly had a thermonuclear meltdown last month when his own daughter was near the Paris Muslim terror attacks. This is what he said:

“We need to respond by declaring war on them… if we don’t kill them, they’re going to kill us.” He offered specifics, calling for Russia, the U.S. and our Middle East Allies to join forces in a war against ISIS– even if have to drag the latter in “kicking and screaming.” “I want a massive ground campaign to conquer ISIS once and for all,” Rivera said. source

Lol, every liberal is a pacifist until the day their loved ones are threatened, then they want blood. John Piper is no different. If the evil he so carelessly tells us to “not worry about” and just “trust God” with ever came to land at his doorstep you can best believe his tune would change. Quickly.

If you try and make the Bible say Christians can’t have guns, then we can’t have seat belts either. If you were to ask my opinion on whether or not a Christian should buy a gun, I would give you the same answer I would give you with any other question you might ask. I will tell you to pray about it, and let God do the deciding.

“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:” Ephesians 1:17 (KJV)

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THE BIBLE BELIEVERS SUNDAY SERVICE: Chief Of Sinners

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Paul Never Forgot That He Had Persecuted The Church, But He Refused To Let His Past Become Greater Than The Grace Of God

Paul’s testimony is one of the greatest encouragements in the entire word of God, because Paul is not presented to us as a man who had no past. He is presented as a man with a terrible past, a religious past, a violent past, a Christ-rejecting past — and yet a man who found mercy in Jesus Christ. That is what makes Paul’s testimony so powerful. He was not merely a sinner who lived carelessly in the world. He was a sinner who sinned while thinking he was serving God. He was religious, zealous, educated, separated, serious, and completely wrong. Saul of Tarsus had Bible, religion, tradition, authority, and zeal — but he did not have Jesus Christ.

“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” 1 Timothy 1:15 (KJB)

Paul never forgot what he was when Jesus Christ found him. He was not looking for the Lord. He was not seeking truth. He was breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord. When Paul says he was “the least of the apostles,” he is not denying his apostleship. He is remembering the mercy that made him an apostle. He knew he was called by the risen Christ, but he also knew he had once persecuted the church of God. This is why he calls himself the “least of all saints”, and the “chief of sinners”. Paul’s authority was real. His calling was real. His office was real. But none of it produced pride in him, because grace always points back to the One who gave it. If God can do all that that through Paul, he can do it through you, too. If you are discouraged today, this message will give you a real hope that God can give you a better future.

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“For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.” 1 Corinthians 15:9 (KJB)

“Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;” Ephesians 3:8 (KJB)

“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” 1 Timothy 1:15 (KJB)

“Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 3:13,14 (KJB)

I. Paul Remembered What He Had Been

Paul never tried to rewrite his testimony. He had been a persecutor, a blasphemer, and injurious. He had dragged believers out, consented to the death of Stephen, and fought against the very Lord who would later save him.

“Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.” 1 Timothy 1:13 (KJB)

Paul did not hide his past, but neither did he let his past define his future. He remembered it only as a monument to the mercy of God.

Application

Some sinners think they are too far gone. Some Christians think they have ruined everything beyond repair. Some carry memories that still accuse them when they lay their head on the pillow at night. But Paul’s life says otherwise.

If God could save Saul of Tarsus, the persecutor of Christians, He can save anyone. If God could put Paul into the ministry after what Paul had done, then no sinner should ever say, “There is no hope for me.”

Closing Challenge

Do not let the devil preach your past louder than Christ preaches His blood.

II. Paul Humbled Himself Under Grace

Paul’s spiritual progression was downward in self and upward in Christ.

He said:

“I am the least of the apostles.”
“I am less than the least of all saints.”
“I am chief of sinners.”

That was not despair. That was humility born from grace. Paul knew exactly what he had been, but he also knew exactly what Christ had done.

“But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly then they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.” 1 Corinthians 15:10 (KJB)

Application

Grace does not make a man proud. Grace makes a man useful.

Paul did not say, “Because I sinned so badly, I cannot serve God.” He said, in effect, “Because God had mercy on me, I will spend my life preaching the One who saved me.”

The same grace that saves the sinner also strengthens the servant.

Closing Challenge

Your past may explain where grace found you, but it does not have the authority to cancel what God has called you to do now.

III. Paul Refused To Be Chained To What Was Behind Him

This is the missing piece:

“Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 3:13,14 (KJB)

Paul had much to forget.

He had the memory of persecuting the church.
He had the memory of opposing Christ.
He had the memory of wasted years in religion.
He had the memory of blood, rage, blindness, and pride.

But Paul did not live looking backward. He looked forward. He reached forward. He pressed forward. This does not mean Paul denied what he had done. It means he refused to let what he had done become greater in his mind than what Christ had done for him.

Application

There are sinners who need to hear this plainly: you cannot undo yesterday, but Jesus Christ can save you today.

There are Christians who need to hear this just as plainly: you cannot serve God while dragging the chains of forgiven sin behind you as though the blood of Christ was not enough.

Paul did not forget his past by pretending it never happened. He forgot it by refusing to let it control the race set before him.

Closing Challenge

Are you reaching forth unto those things which are before, or are you still reaching backward into the graveyard of sins Christ already judged at Calvary?

IV. Paul’s Past Became A Testimony, Not A Tomb

Paul’s sin was great, but God’s grace was greater. Why did Jesus chose Saul to be the leader of the Church? Because He wanted to give us a living example of the power of the grace of God. He took the worst person He could find, a man whose whole live was devoted to killing the followers of Jesus Christ, and saved him and showed him grace.

“I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished.” Acts 22:3-5 (KJB)

“And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.” 1 Timothy 1:14 (KJB)

That phrase “exceeding abundant” is the answer to every sinner who thinks he has sinned too much, fallen too far, or waited too long. Paul was not merely forgiven quietly in a corner. God made him a public display of long-suffering mercy.

“Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.” 1 Timothy 1:16 (KJB)

Paul became a pattern. His life says: “Look what Christ can do with the chief of sinners.”

Application

That is the encouragement for sinners.

The drunkard can be saved.
The blasphemer can be saved.
The religious hypocrite can be saved.
The immoral sinner can be saved.
The bitter rebel can be saved.
The backslider can be restored.
The ashamed believer can get back up and press toward the mark.

Paul’s past did not become his excuse. It became his pulpit.

Closing Challenge

Will you let your past be the place where the devil buries you, or the place where God displays His mercy?

V. Paul Pressed Toward The Mark

Paul did not merely stop looking back. He started pressing forward. Ceasing to do a negative resets you back to zero, and that’s good but not good enough. Once you are able to stop living in the negative, there must be a pressing forward into the positive!

“I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 3:14 (KJB)

That word “press” matters. Paul’s life was not passive. He ran. He reached. He laboured. He endured. He followed Christ with urgency. Grace did not make Paul careless. Grace made Paul determined.

Application

The answer to a sinful past is not self-pity. It is not denial. It is not pretending sin was harmless. It is bringing it under the blood of Jesus Christ and then getting up to follow the Lord.

The sinner needs salvation.
The saved man needs cleansing.
The discouraged servant needs to press on.
The ashamed believer needs to stop staring at the ashes and start looking at Christ.

Closing Challenge

You cannot run today’s race while living in yesterday’s failure.

“Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Hebrews 12:1,2 (KJB)

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Today Was Another Bible Distribution Day At The Glory Fellowship Church In Kenya Where Operation Africa! Delivered Hundreds Of Bibles In Ekegusii And English

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Today Was Another Bible Distribution Day At Glory Fellowship Church In Kisii, Kenya, Where NTEB Delivered Hundreds Of Children’s, Ekegusii And King James Bibles

About 8:30AM EST this morning, Lori and I got on WhatsApp with Pastor Dancan and we prayed over the joyous distribution of Bibles to the hundreds of people assembled at the Glory Fellowship Church. This video shows you what that looked like. Along with hundreds of bibles in the Ekegusii language, we also provided children’s bibles and King James Bibles. Many of the people in Kisii only speak Ekegusii, but many others are able to read English, so we are trying to provide Bibles that will give us the widest range of coverage. Your fervent prayers are making Operation Africa! possible, and you’re looking at what your donations are providing for “the least of these” here in the last days for God’s glory.

“But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.” Luke 18:16 (KJB)

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TO THE FIGHT: Today We Announce The Launch Of ‘Operation Africa’ To Plant 2 Bible Believing Churches In Uganda And Kenya Along With Thousands Of Bibles

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‘Operation Africa’ Begins As NTEB Plants King James Bible Believing Churches In Uganda And Kenya To Preach The Gospel In The Closing Moments Of The Church Age

Now The End Begins is launching ‘Operation Africa’ as part of our much larger end-times missionary effort to preach, teach, evangelize, disciple, and plant Bible-believing works in the Gospel Ministry while there is still time. This is not missions as a slogan, this is not charity as a photo opportunity, and this is not religious activity for the sake of appearances. This is Bible believing, gospel preaching, King James Bible ministry on the mission field, carried out in the closing moments of the Church Age. Come help us!

“As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:2,3 (KJB)

In Uganda, we are working right now to plant the Bible Believers Church of Kanungu with recently ordained minister Irad Biryomumesho, a man called to labor among his own people with the word of God in his hand and the gospel of the grace of God in his heart. He will be their pastor and shepherd. In Kenya, we are also working to plant the Bible Believers Church of Kisii, which will be headed up by Pastor Dancan, another faithful laborer stepping into the harvest field at a time when the need is overwhelming and the hour is late. We have been raising money for Bibles, and sending them out as new shipments arrive daily. Now we need to raise about $25,000 to erect either a permanent tent, or pole barn, under which church services can be held for both church in Uganda and Kenya. That money will also go to supply each church with everything they need to preach, teach and evangelize. Christian, this is the greatest open door that God has given us since the founding of the Bibles Behind Bars program. Our goal is to raise the money, put up the tents, and establish both churches by the time of the Camp Meeting in September. Please pray about joining us, and if the Lord gives you the green light, click on the donate button to help us reach out goal as quickly as possible. Thank you!!