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A Bible Believer Responds To John Piper’s Call For Christians To Not Be Armed

Now to me, the son of a WWII and Korea vet, and the brother to a United States Marine, this sounds like perfectly sound and rational thought processes coming from the desk of Mr. Falwell. And certainly, as a parent, taking every precaution we can to keep our kids safe I am all in favor of both as a Christian and as an American citizen. But John Piper sees it otherwise.

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So John Piper says it’s a sin to call the police when we are being threatened? I say that’s absolute hogwash, and so should you

“Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” Romans 14:4,5 (KJV)

Yesterday the chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, John Piper, published an article entitled “Should Christians Be Encouraged to Arm Themselves?” In the article he takes issue with Jerry Falwell, Jr. telling his students to go out and get their gun permits. Falwell said this:

“As the president of this university community of nearly 15,000 students and 7,000 faculty and staff, I take very seriously my responsibility to keep you safe in an increasingly dangerous world. That’s why in 2011 I asked our Board of Trustees to consider a concealed carry policy. It wasn’t because of Islamic terrorism, it was because what happened (just) up the road at Virginia Tech. More than 30 innocent students and faculty were murdered viciously and none of them had the ability to protect themselves. The day that happened, I thought we needed to do something different here at Liberty. We needed to have a way to protect our students, our faculty, so we instituted this free course in 2011. We were part of only a handful of schools in the United States that had taken that position at that time. Now many schools have followed suit. There are dozens and we have had 1,600 people take that course, 950 here now with concealed carry permits, and after I made those remarks on Friday we had 240 sign up for a course tomorrow night. I want to applaud you and thank you for taking steps to make our campus more safe. I recognize that not every one of you will (carry); it’s only for students 21 years and older.” source 

Now to me, the son of a WWII and Korea vet, and the brother to a United States Marine, this sounds like perfectly sound and rational thought processes coming from the desk of Mr. Falwell. And certainly, as a parent, taking every precaution we can to keep our kids safe I am all in favor of both as a Christian and as an American citizen. But John Piper sees it otherwise. Here is an excerpt from his anti-gun article:

“As chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, I want to send a different message to our students, and to the readers of Desiring God, than Jerry Falwell, Jr. sent to the students of Liberty University in a campus chapel service on December 4. The apostle Peter teaches us that Christians will often find themselves in societies where we should expect and accept unjust mistreatment without retaliation. The early church, as we see her in Acts, expected and endured persecution without armed resistance, but rather with joyful suffering, prayer, and the word of God. A natural instinct is to boil this issue down to the question, “Can I shoot my wife’s assailant?” source

That, in brief, is the essence of Piper’s position, and you can read the entire article here. So let me just add a few brief points from the Bible believer position that I think will help to shed some additional light on the matter.

  1. John Piper’s misapplication of scripture: All through his article, he constantly says things like “Peter never fought back when mistreated”, and “the apostles endured persecution without retaliation”, and so on. Yes, those thing are true, but they need to be read in context. The reason why the apostles never fought back was because the punishments and afflictions they received were because of preaching the gospel specifically, and the Bible does say that in the course of witnessing for Jesus Christ hardships, perils and afflictions certainly will come. When we preach on the street, I have never hit back at any of the mistreatment we have received because when were are ministering we are specifically engaged in preaching the gospel. But I find no verses in the Bible that advise me to just “sit back and take it” when walking down a crowded city street and someone tries to mug me. So based on Piper’s misapplication of scripture, his advice to his daughter would be to “just take it” when attacked by a predator on a college campus or other gathering of people. See how silly his position suddenly becomes? No, the apostles, as seen below, suffered for a very specific cause, for the gospel’s sake, and as such took it without rebuttal. But I dare say that if some crazed lunatic tried to sexually assault Peter’s wife, the tough-as-nails Galilean fisherman would have thrust him through with his sword, and rightly so.
    “And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.” Acts 5:40 (KJV)
  2. John Piper is not rightly dividing the Bible: Paul commands Timothy to “rightly divide” the scripture so that he will not make the mistake of trying to apply Bible verses written to the Jews and place them on the Church. In his article, Piper talks about “enduring to the end” from Matthew 24, a passage specifically written to Jews in the time of Jacob’s trouble. But Christians don’t “endure to the end” because we are 1). sealed until the day of redemption as found in Ephesians 1 & 4, and 2). we will not go through the time of Jacob’s trouble otherwise known as the Great Tribulation. “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,” 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV)
  3. Many of his points are just ridiculous: One of his main theme points is that the christian should just “trust God” and everything will work itself out. The Bible believing Christian does trust God with the most important thing we have, and that is our souls. We trust Him to take us home to Heaven when we die, we place our eternal destiny in His hands alone. But until that day arrives, we live in a sin-cursed world that currently is ruled by the Devil! God gave us a brain for a reason, He wants us to do some thinking with it. Whenever we travel anywhere in a car, we always ask God to guide our path and get us to and from safely, right? But we also wear our seatbelts! I highly doubt that Piper and his whole family ride around in cars at high speeds unbelted. If Piper’s logic was followed to it’s natural conclusion seat belts would no longer be used because when using them our “faith would be in the seat belts” and not in God’s power to keep us safe. That’s just plain crazy. But yet Piper goes further still when he says that even calling the police when you are in danger “comes from a heart that is out of step with the mind of Christ. If one’s heart is controlled mainly by fear, or anger, or revenge, that sinful disposition may be expressed by using the police as well as taking up arms yourself.” So now it’s a sin to call the police when we are being threatened? Hogwash, and dangerous hogwash at that. “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” 1 Timothy 5:8 (KJV)

Conclusion: I honestly don’t know much about the ministry or beliefs of John Piper, I run in Bible believing circles and have not come across much if any of his work. But going on this particular article he has written, he comes across as an anti-gun liberal to me. God calls us to trust Him in all we do and with all we have, yet at the same time it is not a lack of faith to exercise and eat right to stay healthy. And it is not a lack of faith when we take common sense precautions to keep our loved ones safe in a sin-cursed world.

Famous media liberal, Geraldo Rivera, who almost always advocates for pacifism, nearly had a thermonuclear meltdown last month when his own daughter was near the Paris Muslim terror attacks. This is what he said:

We need to respond by declaring war on them… if we don’t kill them, they’re going to kill us.” He offered specifics, calling for Russia, the U.S. and our Middle East Allies to join forces in a war against ISIS– even if have to drag the latter in “kicking and screaming.” “I want a massive ground campaign to conquer ISIS once and for all,” Rivera said. source

Lol, every liberal is a pacifist until the day their loved ones are threatened, then they want blood. John Piper is no different. If the evil he so carelessly tells us to “not worry about” and just “trust God” with ever came to land at his doorstep you can best believe his tune would change. Quickly.

If you try and make the Bible say Christians can’t have guns, then we can’t have seat belts either. If you were to ask my opinion on whether or not a Christian should buy a gun, I would give you the same answer I would give you with any other question you might ask. I will tell you to pray about it, and let God do the deciding.

“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:” Ephesians 1:17 (KJV)

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TO THE FIGHT: Today We Announce The Launch Of ‘Operation Africa’ To Plant 2 Bible Believing Churches In Uganda And Kenya Along With Thousands Of Bibles

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‘Operation Africa’ Begins As NTEB Plants King James Bible Believing Churches In Uganda And Kenya To Preach The Gospel In The Closing Moments Of The Church Age

Now The End Begins is launching ‘Operation Africa’ as part of our much larger end-times missionary effort to preach, teach, evangelize, disciple, and plant Bible-believing works in the Gospel Ministry while there is still time. This is not missions as a slogan, this is not charity as a photo opportunity, and this is not religious activity for the sake of appearances. This is Bible believing, gospel preaching, King James Bible ministry on the mission field, carried out in the closing moments of the Church Age. Come help us!

“As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:2,3 (KJB)

In Uganda, we are working right now to plant the Bible Believers Church of Kanungu with recently ordained minister Irad Biryomumesho, a man called to labor among his own people with the word of God in his hand and the gospel of the grace of God in his heart. He will be their pastor and shepherd. In Kenya, we are also working to plant the Bible Believers Church of Kisii, which will be headed up by Pastor Dancan, another faithful laborer stepping into the harvest field at a time when the need is overwhelming and the hour is late. We have been raising money for Bibles, and sending them out as new shipments arrive daily. Now we need to raise about $25,000 to erect either a permanent tent, or pole barn, under which church services can be held for both church in Uganda and Kenya. That money will also go to supply each church with everything they need to preach, teach and evangelize. Christian, this is the greatest open door that God has given us since the founding of the Bibles Behind Bars program. Our goal is to raise the money, put up the tents, and establish both churches by the time of the Camp Meeting in September. Please pray about joining us, and if the Lord gives you the green light, click on the donate button to help us reach out goal as quickly as possible. Thank you!!

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THE PROPHECY NEWS PODCAST: As The World Freaks Out About ‘Disclosure Day’, We’re Launching ‘Operation Africa’ To Plant 2 Churches And Send Out Bibles!

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Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day Arrives With A UFO Revelation Message As The World Is Being Programmed To Believe The Coming Strong Delusion

The question is not whether Steven Spielberg knows some classified secret about aliens living among us. The question is why the culture keeps being pushed, decade after decade, toward the same conclusion: mankind is not alone, mankind is being watched, mankind is being prepared, and at some appointed moment a hidden truth will be unveiled to the entire world. The Bible believer already knows mankind is not alone. But what is watching this world is not benevolent space brothers from a distant galaxy. It is a fallen spiritual kingdom, working behind the scenes, preparing this present evil world for the arrival of Antichrist. That’s the bad news, but we also have some very, very Good News to share as well.

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,” 2 Thessalonians 2:9 (KJB)

On this episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, Spielberg’s Disclosure Day may be fiction, but fiction has always been one of the Devil’s favorite testing grounds. It lets him introduce ideas before they are implemented. It lets him normalize the unthinkable. It lets him train generations to respond emotionally before they ever have to respond doctrinally. So no, this movie is not proof that aliens are among us. But yes, it is another loud signal that the world is being conditioned for something. The language of disclosure, revelation, contact, proof, and global truth is now everywhere. The world is not being prepared to meet “aliens.” It is being prepared to receive a counterfeit revelation that will draw men further away from the truth of the King James Bible and deeper into the coming kingdom of Antichrist. That makes the question this. How should the Bible Believer live in a time when all these things are going on? The answer is simple. We are to do the Lord’s work of preaching, teaching and evangelizing with the gospel until He comes to get us. Whenever that may be. Towards that end, on this program, we will also be announcing the launch of ‘Operation:Africa!’ that began this week, and share with you the amazing new door that the Lord has opened for us with the Gospel Ministry on the African continent.

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From A Heartbreaking No From The Gideons To A Heaven-Sent Yes From Us, Hundreds Of Bibles Are Now Flowing To Glory Fellowship Church In Kisii, Kenya

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After The Gideons Said No To Pastor Dancan In Kenya, God Opened The Door For NTEB To Send Hundreds Of Bibles To Glory Fellowship Church In Kisii

Last week, we told you about Pastor Dancan at the Glory Fellowship Church in Kisii, Kenya, and the incredible and sad story he told us of reaching out to The Gideons for Bibles only to be told no. How could we step in and help where the Gideons could not? Well, as it turns out, God has kicked open the door for us in Kenya, and hundreds of Bibles are flowing to Glory Fellowship, with Lord willing, hundreds more. We are halfway to our goal of sending the 823 Bibles, one for each member of the church.

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:17 (KJB)

After he recieved the first shipment of Bibles from us, Pastor Dancan wrote and told us this – “Pastor, it was a wonderful moment. More than 700 people came seeking Bibles, and we thank God that 200 people were able to receive one. Many others were moved to tears because they also desired to have a Bible, but we encouraged them to keep praying and trusting God to provide more in the coming days. Thank you so much for this great support and help. May God richly bless you for being a blessing to this community!” He sent us a video of a man, 80 years old, holding the Bible we gave him, (below wearing brown stripes) and it was the first time he had ever held a Bible in his hands, much less owned one. Wrap your head around that! Here is what it looked like when the first shipment was unboxed and handed out – pure joy!

Right now, we have reached the halfway point, and in a week no less! So many, many thanks to all of you praying and donating to this outreach, it’s truly amazing. We still have another 423 Bibles to send out, and need your help to do it. It will take $4,500 to send the remaining Bibles, and we will be sending them out by faith in the next few days. God has kicked open wide the door to Kenya, and have given us liberty and favor to send these Bibles out. Come help us, we need you!!

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