Transgender Baptist Preacher Allyson Robinson Says ‘Angel Of Reason’ Told Him Bible Was Wrong

“Allyson Dylan Robinson is a minister of the gospel, trained for the task, and ordained to the gospel ministry by another community in which she has served as pastor,” former leader Amy Butler wrote at that time. “Over the course of her journey, God has invited her to step into the faithful witness of a new identity, a true identity, and a new name.”
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The nation’s first transgender Baptist preacher spoke to a national Baptist gathering on April 8, explaining that the doctor who delivered him as a baby was wrong in declaring him a boy, and that it was an “angel of reason” that caused him to accept his inclinations to identify as a woman.

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: It’s starting as a trickle, but you are looking at the future of the Christian church in America and ultimately around the world. It is collapsing to become the Laodicean mess that Jesus said it would be in the last days before the Rapture. The only ‘revival’ coming will be the false revival of worldly church that puts personal feelings, emotions and desires far above that of Bible doctrine. Here we have a transgender ‘preacher’ who says that an ‘angel’ appeared to him to tell him that the Bible is wrong on homosexuality, and the world celebrates his ‘courage’. Last days.

Daniel Robinson, who goes by the name Allyson Robinson, had been studying to be a pastor at Baylor University’s George W. Truett Theological Seminary in 2005 when he began to wrestle with his gender identity as never before. He had struggled with his desire to be a man since childhood.

“I have known my entire life that the world was wrong about me, that on the day I was born, when the doctor took a cursory glance between my legs and authoritatively declared ‘It’s a boy,’ he was wrong—dead wrong,” Robinson told the Alliance of Baptists in St. Louis this month.

He said that one day in his early seminary days he contemplated suicide, but an “angel of the Lord” that he called “reason” stopped him.

“What if God hasn’t fixed you because you’re not broken?” Robinson said he heard inside of himself.

“That can’t be true,” he thought. “The Bible says I’m broken.”

“What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?”

Robinson told those gathered that in that moment he “sacrificed his certainty” and hoped that God would count it as “righteousness.”

In other appearances, Robinson has explained that he went into therapy but kept his gender identity issues as secret until graduating from Baylor due to the seminary’s policies about homosexuality and transgenderism. He also took a position as pastor of Meadow Oaks Baptist Church in Temple, Texas during his time at Baylor.

Robinson’s wife, Danyelle, expressed her support about his desire to identify as a woman.

In 2014, he worked as a transitional minister at Calvary Baptist Church in Washington, D.C., and was ordained there as a woman.

“Allyson Dylan Robinson is a minister of the gospel, trained for the task, and ordained to the gospel ministry by another community in which she has served as pastor,” former leader Amy Butler wrote at that time. “Over the course of her journey, God has invited her to step into the faithful witness of a new identity, a true identity, and a new name.”

Robinson now speaks as an itinerant preacher and appeared at Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner’s renaming ceremony last year.

“Frankly I consider Job, Gautama Buddha, Joan of Arc, Rumi and Johnny Cash to be my spiritual predecessors far more than Augustine, Aquinas or Barth,” he told the Alliance of Baptists this month. “My hymnal has a lot less Isaac Watts and Fanny Crosby, but it’s full of Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Tupac and Beyonce.”

However, some have come to the opposite conclusion of Robinson, and state that it is not healthy to support and affirm a person’s desire to live as those of the opposite sex.

As previously reported, Walt Heyer, a 75-year-old man who obtained a sex change operation in the 1980’s to live as a woman for eight years before reverting back to his biological gender, now leads a ministry in which he shares his story with the world of how Christ redeemed his life and gave him hope.

“Nobody’s ever born a transgender,” he told the Daily Mail last January. “They’re manufactured as a result of something, a developmental childhood issue that has yet to be determined for many people.”

“All of them have some level of depression, and we’re not treating them,” Heyer lamented. “We’re just cutting off body parts and giving them a new name and a new gender.”

“God designed man; He designed women,” he also said in a video recorded last year. “God will redeem the lives of people who struggle with gender identity issues just like I did. He redeemed my life, and I’ve been free from it as a result of that.”

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.

  • Dan Quixoté

    This person shouldn’t consider themselves survival. From birth the vast majority of us have one or more inclinations that are very contrary to God’s best; it’s called our fallen sinful nature. Many of these persist even past the “moment” of salvation. It’s our job to walk in a loving trust relationship with Him, pursuing his kingdom ends and his righteousness, living as a citizen of heaven would, and He has promised so many times that he will sustain us to the end. I’ve walked in slavery, and walked with the Lord. Frankly the latter is a much more wild and worthwhile adventure.

    • Ole Ingvar

      Luke 14:24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

    • The Truth as usual gone satanic, demonic, religious and thus political, it’s Satan’s Seat as usual sitting in mass assembly as He is God, …flee, RUN! Jesus, I witness a vicious beast 2014, tearing from the pulpits, into the pews with uprooting all of it, Apb, …the abomination that maketh desolate… see Mat. 24, again, see Jesus

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      The Sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to God, Pro. 21:27, see Cain

      The Sacrifices of God, are a broken spirit, a broken and a contrite heart thou will not despise see Ps. 51, see Abel

      Prophecy Links

      Seen to be seeing a large container fall on Saddam, a voice lamenting, “Hussein (Saddam/Barack Hussein), has been injured and will not recover,” 2003

      Seen to be in heaven, seen to be looking into a book of names, like the names written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, seeing how all souls readied to be judged on the map, 04/27/2014, see Rev. 20

      If The Righteous Scarcely Be Saved.
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      America in bed with Saudi Arabia, Is It financial Disaster For The US?

      -Concurrently and where biblical prophecy is concern it's supposed to be, you may ask how accurate is bible prophecy, of Angels like Gabriel 2004 foretelling we’re at the fulfillment of all of it? Well, as early as 2003, as the nation was going crazy with fear over Bush wars regarding the axis of evil and how it would possibly generate like this Islamic, world rule, not knowing it was supposed to. To be honest, it was by bible prophecy I then, in 2003, while they were savagely hunting Saddam Hussein down in Iraqi streets. I this end time Apostle was by bible prophecy instead putting him in the white house and making him, like Hussein Obama right now, the most powerful man, that’s president on the planet.
      -Let alone Col. Gaddafi building of a US of Africa to be realized by 2017/2024, hence remember these soon to be haunting years and the world's refugees migrating because of world catastrophes right into it. These stock proposals go back as far in my prophecies as the late eighties to the early nineties, this proposed African Juttah and an African born male its primary leader. This is possibly why Holy Spirits declared then Senator Obama as and I quote, “the one,” (the one to lead an American exodus I been seeing for thirty years now, perhaps? Though said Hussein prophecy, Rev. 11, 1, 2, then in the spirit world went on to become a viral world out cry for a Hussein to reign. Curious I know, but you heard, that’s read correct, meaning, this divine like chess game has always been God getting His end time Will done. That's by enforcing among choice men and relentless turf/flesh wars the complete fulfillment of end time bible prophecy, see Rev. 17, thus who in the midst of the good (GODLINESS) verses evil (Mass Assembly) besides the repentant will be left STANDING?
      -Honestly, when the world should’ve been calling on their Authentic Prince King, of the getting of World Peace ever again, “thou shalt not see me again,” that’s Jerusalem, “except ye cry, blessed is He who come in the name of Lord,” (that's Jesus); thou art the son of God. Sincerely, every night by visions and dreams I witness the craziest thing, mass marches and a world outcry for a Hussein to reign, and they say God doesn't see the wicked hearts of those sheltered in sin, beware there’s a beast devouring all those in mass assembly, 2014, get out of there, get to Jesus Christ! Awake, be as aware as God, Himself, Apb, The RAM, www.daniel534bc2017ad.blogspot.com www.2015zechariaholivet.blogspot.com www.2016thepalehorse92ad2001ad.blogspot.com www.ezekiel586bc1986ad.blogspot.com

    • ruben

      Very well said!

  • Ole Ingvar

    Galatians 1
    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    There’s nothing could be fixed, set this world on fire, Lord…

    • GRACE

      Amen to the word of God you posted, Ole!
      What sticks out to me is we learned that angel’s exist from the Bible and yet this demon who claimed to be an angel named “reason” says to him, “what if the Bibles wrong?” Well, to me that would be the first clue that it is a demonic being because in order to believe the lie the Bible is wrong you would also have to believe that the Bible is wrong about the existence of angels. This man has no discernment at all to not have seen that from the start or he just heard what he wanted to hear, the tickling of the ears and never really was seeking for truth or righteousness for those that ask receive, those that seek find and those that knock the door is opened and blessed are those who hunger for righteousness for they shall be filled.

      • DC

        Good point, Grace. It’s also surprising that it didn’t dawn on him that this “angel” could have been one of the fallen ones. After all, 1/3 of the angels fell with Lucifer.

        • GRACE

          amen so true dc

        • michael

          People don’t question things they want to be right. They question things God says when they don’t want it to be right. “What do you mean I have a disease I might never get well from?” “What do you mean I’ll never see again?” “Why can’t I have sexual relationships outside of marriage?” “Why can’t I take what I want from others?” When God says something that is hard to understand or put into our lives practically, we question it. This man was obviously in sin, and may never have actually been saved. No wonder he’s confused about his life, and no wonder he listed when an agent of the devil had him questioning the Bible itself.

      • Ron

        Grace I have a big problem with The Angel issue “Like You” only 2 instances of Angel’s names are given…
        This one to show Spiritual Warfare and That Angels have names but even this angel does not reveal his name to daniel
        Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

        Judges 13:6 Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible: but I asked him not whence he was, neither told he me his name:

        Judges 13:17-18 And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, What is thy name, that when thy sayings come to pass we may do thee honour? And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is
        secret?
        Angels using names like “reason” are demonic, as in with Ahab….
        2 Chronicles 18:21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
        So any angel coming to anyone revealing their name is Hogwash because God does not want Them to be worshipped!
        Also the True Angels of God will never accept worship.

        Fallen angels will accept and even demand worship ( they can demand it of man but not God good luck with that! )
        Matthew 4:8-9 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
        and God’s word warns against it…
        Colossians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

        True Angels They are sent forth by God, Not at our command to do what we wish.

        Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

  • DC

    Did he not learn in seminary that Satan can appear as an angel of light? Satan will tell you what you want to hear, and Robinson obviously didn’t look very far to discredit this “reason,” who was not an angel but a demon. Is his wife now a lesbian? Oh, I hope they don’t have kids….

    • MAMY

      DC, is that what Satan does? That is so cool you know that. Wow!

      • Deb

        Read the Bible. You would be cool, too.

    • Harriett

      DC was merely wondering if the wife became a lesbian as a result, or in conjunction with, the husband’s gender issues. Or was the wife still satisfied to be female? There was no reason for the really ‘catty’ comments. And, yes, Mamy, Satan DOES appear to people with false teachings. Jesus repeatedly warned us about this very thing, especially during the last days of earth’s history when his activity is escalating.

    • Ron

      Well if the person is a woman as She??? claims. She??? Has no business Preaching From The Pulpit!

    • GRACE

      too bad I can’t give the thumbs up to you and to Deb so give you smiley’s instead 🙂 🙂 🙂

      • GRACE

        I meant the above comment for DC and for deb

        • DC

          Gotta give kudos to Harriet, too, for seeing the truth and not deliberately reading something into it that isn’t there. Ron, too, is right that he/she shouldn’t be preaching. Let’s give smileys all around! 🙂

    • Emery

      Satan COULD appear, long ago, as an angel of light, but not any longer. Not since Jesus was murdered can any angel physically appear any more. Neither can the demons. That’s why they appear as “ghosts” to people, causing people to believe in ghosts, and therefore not believe God’s inspired word. Ghosts don’t exist, they’re always demons portraying dead loved ones, etc.

      • John

        Where did you get this? Where in the Bible does it say that since the crucifixion that angels and demons can not physically appear to humans?

        • Emery

          John;
          Are you really telling me that you’ve never studied each and every word of God’s word, the Bible? Maybe I will look it up and post it for you tonite when I get back. Maybe.

          • Ole Ingvar

            Aha. Keyword is ‘maybe’ 😉

          • Ole Ingvar

            Emery, your god forbids jokes and other humor, I see 😀 . No, I’m 34, have 3 kids and, of course, married. Just don’t get my brain rusted 😛
            So about advanced analyze of Scriptures – what kind of Scriptures did you browse? NWO translation or Textus Receptus? And when I’ll see at least 1 from you 12000 “corruptions” of KJV Bible?

          • Emery

            Ole;
            Have you lost your mind? My God??? Ole, there is ONLY ONE GOD THE ALMIGHTY. You don’t have one god, and I have another. I am not pagan, maybe you are, I don’t know. I serve and worship Jehovah God, God the Almighty, the God of Jacob, Moses, Samuel, Israel, and so on. There exists only ONE God who is sovereign ruler and creator of the universe.

            God does not forbid jokes or humor either. I’ve never read one word in His inspired word to that effect Ole. I don’t know what you have read as a Bible, but it’s not in any English translation, and I’ve read and studied all of them. Are you on another planet or something? And I didn’t and don’t “browse” the scriptures. I read the entire Bible three times a year, and study it twice a year, scripture by scripture. That’s not browsing Ole.

            Corruptions you mentioned? 7,210 times in the ancient scrolls matching the Bible of today, one can find the tetragrammaton YHVH. It is the tetragramatton for Jehovah. You know, the Jehovah you say “praise to Jah” every time you say halleluliah. That name cannot be found in the NKJV, and can be found only seven times in the KJV. The NKJV completely eliminated His name when it was published. So there’s 7,210 gross errors. Here’s one more: Gehenna is found 57 times in the original texts. In the KJV it is found zero times. King James the First had it changed to “hell”, which is not what it translates into in English. How about Sheol? It is in the ancient texts 202 times, and in the KJV ZERO times. Hades appears in the original texts 65 times, and in the KJV it appears ZERO times. I could go on, and on, and on, but what’s the point? The KJV changed Gehenna, Hades, and Sheol to “hell”, when none of those words cannot translate as hell, in English. James wanted people to believe that the pagan concept of hell actually existed, when it really does not exist. That’s how he did it. He changed God’s inspired word, making himself God’s ENEMY Ole. His enemy!!! He changed pneumos (spirit) to Ghost, which is not possible to translate pneumos as Ghost. That’s like translating a word for wood, into English as cotton candy. Can’t be done. It doesn’t work. Not honestly anyway.

          • Ole Ingvar

            E:Have you lost your mind?
            O: No, I don’t.
            E: My God???
            O: Yes, yours. As Scriptures says
            1 Koriths 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
            so everyone can had his own god.
            E:Ole, there is ONLY ONE GOD THE ALMIGHTY.
            O: Amen. But same phrase I’ve heard from Muslims, so what? They’re worship true God too?
            E: You don’t have one god, and I have another.
            O: I can’t be so sure as you are 😀 .
            E: I am not pagan, maybe you are, I don’t know.
            O: Perhaps it will be a revelation to you, but exist pagans, who worshiping only one god (Muslims, some of Hindu, Sikhs, some sort of Slavonic pagans, they’re worshiping god named Rod). So having only one deity for worshiping – that’s not mark of true path yet.
            E: I serve and worship Jehovah God, God the Almighty, the God of Jacob, Moses, Samuel, Israel, and so on. There exists only ONE God who is sovereign ruler and creator of the universe.
            O: How you should know that? Just because some guys told you so? These people were prophets (at least most of them) and they all foretold about Messiah – Jesus Christ. Jesus, whom you and your sect are denying, because founder of Watch Tower was Freemason 33 degree.
            E: God does not forbid jokes or humor either.
            O: Then why you don’t get jokes? You know, I never seen yet any JW, who could joke or made something funny.
            E: I don’t know what you have read as a Bible, but it’s not in any English translation, and I’ve read and studied all of them.
            O: Oh yeah, every translation? Read and study? Then you should mark these verses
            John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
            John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
            3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
            Your explanation, sir.
            E: Are you on another planet or something?
            O: Just another continent 😀 .
            About your arguments about corruptions – we didn’t discussing about NKJV, let me remind you again.
            Next – does it really matters, how Most High called in the Bible – God or Jehovah?
            About “sheol” and “hades” – it’s same place, just different languages. Gehenna is junkyard,where everything consumed by fire.
            Just one question, Emery – how god whom you worshiped has changed your life?

        • Ole Ingvar

          Brother John,perhaps his own prophet Charlie appeared to him and told this personally 😉 .

          • Emery

            Ole;
            I don’t posess any prophets, nor am I one. No one except God can posess a prophet, and if you ‘re referring to the long dead Mr. Russell, how could I speak to him? HE’S DEAD! I detect that you are quite young also, and quite physically, mentally, and spiritually immature. Am I correct?

            And as far as your above quite childish remark “Aha. Keyword is ‘maybe’ “, yes, maybe. It’s not my job to do the work of others. It’s their job to search God’s word to see if what they hear or read is true. Do you not remember what was said about the Boreans of long ago? How they searched the scriptures daily to see if what they were told was true? It appears not. It didn’t say that the one they heard it from was required to do the research for the listeners, did it? Of course not Ole. Grow up and attempt to behave as Jesus taught us to behave as Christians, because you’re failing miserably at it right now my friend. Your haughtiness and lack of spiritual maturity isn’t making you look very good right now.

    • Willubeleft

      what i s really bad- satan and his demons know your every thought and desire, and they also twist the bible to suit them in order to give you want you want – for example these mediums that “talk” to the dead they do not know that it very well could be demons poasing as your loved ones. the bible says he will give them over to reprobate minds. As my father who was a minister and did not change genders said love the sinner , but hate his ways, the sad thing is this person will stand accountable on judgement day for the people he has led astray, by abusing his calling. he is of the “tickle the ear” generation. woe to him that knowth the way and does it , it will be far worse for him than one that doesn’t know the way and die in sin, never hearing to word.

  • Ole Ingvar

    O.o

  • Heather

    If it’s true that “his” wife supported him as “he” states, then the only thing she was supporting was that which is an abomination to God!

  • Luke

    In Scripture Paul said in Gal 1:9 “…..If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!” This is serious stuff. Chances it was probably the same “Angel” that gave the Koran to Muhammad.

    • Ole Ingvar

      They’re all in same brigade, bro 😀

    • eddie santana

      Holy crap, Luke, you fricken nailed it. And Heather, you are righteous as well.

      • Heather

        Bless you brother eddie! Great contributions.

    • Chel

      Yes I totally agree Its not good this world is a sad place people believing Satan over god that’s why me with my 6 kids in Tassie remain single I’d hate to be married and have my husband decide he’s transgender or gay or any thing else etc

      • Listener

        You’re divorced? Well according to the Bible you should be stoned. Maybe think before you condemn. 😉

        • DC

          Is “Listener” supposed to be ironic? You certainly haven’t been listening or reading the Word. Adultery was punished by stoning, not divorce, and Jesus let the woman caught in adultery go. There are also biblical grounds for divorce, so maybe you should not condemn things about which you know nothing.
          “Maybe think before you condemn.” Take your own advice, big mouth troll.

          • Ron

            Oh boy Dc another Albert Einstein.

        • BigD

          So “Listener” you do not understand the reason that there is an “Old Testament” and a “New testament”. You do not comprehend what that means. Without that knowledge, you are but a whisper in the wind. Be gone. Go and worship Satan. You are not his first fool tool.

    • GRACE

      satan always come with questions of doubt and attempts to make a person feel that God is withholding something good for them by appealing to fleshly desires, satan accuses God of being a liar when in fact he is the liar. he did the same thing to Eve in the garden. Genesis 3:1-5 vs1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Talk about twisting the truth, first get one to doubt God’s character, get one to entertain pride which he’s good at since that was his downfall, deceit, deceit.

      • Emery

        Grace;
        Satan also challenged mankind when the Job account happened. He said that man will not worship God only out of love, but will only worship Him if he gets something out of the worship. We must prove Satan wrong here as well, in worshiping God out of our love for Him, and in doing the entire will of God always in all situations all the time. Failure to do this, tends to prove Satan’s point. We must prove Satan wrong, and help to vindicate God as the only rightful sovereign of the universe. Satan wants to contunue ruling Earth, as he does now, and not let Jesus take over for the thousand years of judgement day.

    • Thomas

      You are so right Luke!!!!

  • KatIe

    How do you see the true church going forward as the lukewarm church gains momentum? Will many of us just not go to an organized church?

    • The “true Church” becomes EXACTLY what Jesus said it would become – Laodicea. There is NO WAY around that, it is a PROPHECY that will be fulfilled, that is being fulfilled right now. Pray that YOU as an INDIVIDUAL stay strong in these last days, but the Church itself will collapse. That’s WHY Jesus comes and takes us out in the Rapture, to PRESERVE us before we totally implode.

      • eddie santana

        Yes, but Geoff, remember, that just as Elijah thought that all of Israel had bowed the knee to Baal, God told him that he’s reserved a remnant for himself. So, I think that applies here. The Church may collapse, but there will always remain a remnant.

        • jimmyb

          You’re right, eddie, but I think what it means is that, we who know the truth, have seen the direction that the church has gone over the decades, AND HAVE LEFT IT. We are the ones then, unknown to those still in the “churches”, that are like the ones spoken by Elijah. (Didn’t Isaiah say something like that too?) We have left the BUILDINGS that have been called church, because of all the anti christian doctrine and beliefs that they have turned to, and now read our bibles and seek out those like us; that is how we go to “church”. I don’t know if I am making sense, but that is how I think of it.

          • Rowena

            jimmyb I agree. I am a believer, but have not been able to find a church to attend, and I have been searching for 1 1/2 yrs now. I just keep praying, Studying the Word of God, and trying to live how Jesus would want me to. Maybe one day I will be able to find a real church that actually teaches from the Bible.

          • leigh

            I agree fully with you Jimmy, I live in South Africa and I am struggling to find a church, there is definitely no KJV churches anywhere here, but if I could just find one that is not so influenced by the charismatic movement that would be great! I attended two services at a church called ‘Northcliff Union Church’ but they don’t do alter calls at all, its my cousins church and she has been going there 6 months and she says they have never done an alter call! This concerns me! My cousin has now left that church because of that reason!
            Such sad times we live in! 🙁

          • Eddie

            Leigh-I pastor a church which gives an altar call. However, I have wondered many times about altar calls. I have tried to find out when churches started giving them. The best I could find out was Charles Finney began them in 1700 or 1800’s in revival services. Before then (remember the Bible never says anything about them that I know of), church services were for the worship of Believers. As a result, Believers grew spiritually. Evangelism was done door to door, in the market place, the job, etc. And the church grew without an altar call. Now, and I realize this is not in all churches but it is most churches I am aware of here in the US, Sunday services are mostly evangelistic services reaching out to the lost. As a result, we have churches full of either Babes in Christ (who have been “saved” for a long time) or lost folk who think they are saved. And it is expected by many members for the preacher to preach evangelistically instead of to the saved. A result then of the expectations of the pastor to reach the lost on Sundays, many church members now do not witness for Christ nor do they serve Him with their whole heart because they have not had the preaching/teaching of the Word as they should have because many will not put in the time it takes to really study the Word on their own. Before anyone flames me for this, I encourage you to think about.

        • GRACE

          Amen eddie. And the True Church is the Bride, not a denomination or building but a body of believers who trust in Christ and obey Him w/out question, die daily to self and lay down their lives at His feet and we must remember this word in Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

      • Allison

        Hi Mr. Grider,
        I love this website and I appreciate all the effort you put into warning people about the days in which we live and for directing people to the truth of Jesus Christ. I agree that mainstream Christianity (Churchianity) is clearly the Laodicea church, but I think that God does have a true church and that He will preserve His people throughout the tribulation, not necessarily keep them from it. But, that’s just my opinion… Anyway, do you have an opinion as to how much time we have until the A.C. steps into power? – God Be With You!!…Love Y’all!

        • Harriett

          In response to Geoffrey Grider,eddie Santana, jimmyb, and Allison: There is no question that the ‘last days’ church is Laodicean — self satisfied, and feeling the want of nothing. However, that does not mean everyone in the church will be ‘spit out of His mouth’. It is a personal choice each of us must make: Will we ‘endure to the end’? Or will we be swept up in the false doctrines and wear the mark of the beast? Many people feel that ‘the church’ originates with mankind. Actually that is denominationalism and very different from the true church. THE CHURCH is composed of people from every denomination, every culture, every nationality worldwide who have a relationship with Jesus. The period referred to as ‘the tribulation’ is mankind’s final test. Who will we believe – God’s law or man’s law? Only those who endure to the end will see eternal life.

      • Tony

        Mr. Grider, the Church will never collapse. Our Lord said that the gates of hell would never prevail against it. Furthermore we see where Scripture states that the Church is the “pillar and foundation of truth.” Also, there is no such a thing a pre-trib rapture. This was reject by Our Lord in John 17. The true Church was and is and will always be the Catholic Church.

        • The Catholic Church is the MOTHER OF HARLOTS from Revelation 17 and 18, and her end is well documented. Still time for you to get off that sinking ship and become BORN AGAIN.

          “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 (KJV)

          • Amen !!!!

          • leigh

            Amen!

          • Larry/vietnamvet1971

            I agree…….all these False religions,sects,cults have deceived so many people.

            Being a Believer/ Christian is a Relationship (Personal) with our LORD & Savior it has nothing to do with being a Baptist..Catholic..etc.

          • Heather

            Thank you Geoffrey! Amen and Amen again. Thank you for standing in boldness brother!

          • Tony

            Mr. Grider,
            The Catholic Church is not the mother of all harlots as you may think. This line of thinking only came to the forefront at the “Reformation.” This was unheard of before that. What you are doing is putting your own spin to something that does not have anything to do with the Catholic Church. Yes, I am born again. Christ Jesus is my Lord and Savior and he is the source of joy and hope in my life.

        • Tim

          The Catholic church is an abomination they worship Mary who was nothing special only a woman blessed of God. Jesus himself said who is my mother who is my brethren those that do the will of God. Catholics also bow before a mere mortal man and kiss his ring And view his word as infallible as God’s if I recall properly three young Israelites went to the furnace for not bowing before any image but God. Catholicism is pagan worship not in line With God’s holy word

          • Tony

            Tim, Catholics do not nor have we ever worshiped the Blessed Mother. We love Blessed Mary but we do not worship her. Worship is due to God and God alone. In fact, there was a heresy, in the early Church, called Collyridianism. This heresy attempted deify the Blessed Mother this heresy was condemned by the Catholic Church. If the Catholic Church condemned this heresy then why would we worship the Blessed Mother? Would not the Church be promoting this belief instead of condemning it?
            The Blessed Mother is special because she is the mother of the God/Man, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Now, who can claim that they have given birth to God? Answer? no one except for the Blessed Mother. Do we honor Blessed Mary? Yes but it is a sad comparison compare to the honor that God gave her.
            We do not believe that everything that the Pope says is infallible. He is very limited when it comes to infallibility. Anyway, God Bless and I hope that you come to a better understanding of what the Catholic Church really believes instead of what you have been lead to believe.

        • Tony,

          THIS particular Tim heartily agrees with you.

          I don’t mind calling myself Catholic either. I don’t see it as a denomination or sect. The name Catholic, or ‘kata holos’ in Greek, is derived from the language of the New Testament.

          ‘Christian’ also is a given, since it is the church established by Christ Himself. And we WILL persevere until He comes.

          Hang in there, brother.

          • Tony

            Thanks Tim.

          • Emery

            Tony;
            That’s not honest, what you posted about the RCC. Contrary to what the church itself teaches, it was not formed in the first century, and Jesus started no “church”. The ancient Koine Greek word “ecclesia” in the new testament only translates to two words, depending upon it’s context. Those two words are not “church”, but are people or congregation. Jesus started the Christian Congregation when he instituted the New Covenant, on Nisan 14 of 33 a.d. Secular records show conclusively that the RCC was first called the Roman Church, and it was formed in 325 a.d. It was seventy years later renamed the Roman Catholic Church. And it is not Christian, it is over half pagan in it’s practices, teachings, rituals, and holidays. It’s a mixture of pagan and Christian writings and beliefs. Since God said to “stop touching the unclean thing, and I will take you in”, when referring to anything pagan, anyone who participates in ANYTHING at all that is pagan, will not be “taken in” by God. Jesus taught that sects are works of the flesh, and false religion. The RCC is the first sect of the pagan religions of Christendom. He also said religions were “false religion”. Revelation says they’re the greatest part of “Babylon the Great”. So the RCC is not what they teach, nor are any other sect of Christendom. That’s why all the translations of the Bible were changed when they were translated. It had to match what they did, what they created.

        • Emery

          Tony;
          You posted that Mr. Grider was not correct in saying that the RCC is not the “mother of harlots”. Let’s look at the scriptures, the REAL scriptures, accurately compared to the ancient texts from which it is derived, AND from secular history.

          God’s inspired word says that religions are false, works of the flesh, and the greatest part of Babylon the Great. Looking secularly at the formation of the RCC, and NOT what they themselves claim, we can learn that Constantine, in 325 a.d. formed a new, “state religion”. Looking at who Constantine was, we learn that he was an emperor, and had absolute rule. What he said, goes. He made all the laws of his constituents. He was also pagan, and worshiped the triads, or trinities of gods common to pagan worship all the way back to Nimrod’s day. And he wasn’t well physically. He wanted all under his domain to participate in one religion. So, he took his pagan beliefs, practices, and holidays, and melded them with this new Christianity that started a few hundred years earlier. He essentially re-wrote Christianity by mixing pagan rituals and icons and idols, AND holidays. He put a Bible together to go with it. He called this religion, the Roman Church. Seventy years later, it was renamed the Roman Catholic Church. Hence, Christendom was born. It spawned hundreds, and later thousands of sects, or denominations of it. It essentially was a counterfeit copy of the “one true faith” that was taught in the first century, by Jesus the Christ, or messiah. It was not Christian, since God’s inspired word, the REAL inspired word, says to “stop touching the unclean thing, and I will take you in”. Since Christendom was FILLED with pagan elements, it’s unclean, and as per what God said, He would not take in any of it’s participants. This is just as true today, as it was then. Since the RCC was the FIRST such Christendom sect/denomination, it can be said to be the mother of all those other sects/denominations. This is why Jesus taught in the first century, that he “hated a sect”, on more than one occasion. So, since God’s word says that religions are the largest part of Babylon the Great, and the RCC was the first sect of Christendom, it IS the mother of a very large part of Babylon the Great, that Revelation to John says is the “harlot who sits upon many waters”. This means many countries, and many peoples in God’s word. The “waters” is a metaphor for them. So, Geoffrey is CORRECT in saying the RCC is the mother of the harlots.

          • Tony

            Emory wrote,

            “You posted that Mr. Grider was not correct in saying that the RCC is not the “mother of harlots”. Let’s look at the scriptures, the REAL scriptures,”

            Okay. Let’s look. What do you mean, though, by “REAL Scriptures”? There are several different translations of the Protestant Bible. All of the 66 Books that are contained in the Protestant Bible are also found in the Catholic Bible. We have 7 more Books than you have but we do have those 66 Books. Also, the First KJV had 73 Books in it. Should we disqualify the first Protestant Bible as a result of this?

            “God’s inspired word says that religions are false, works of the flesh, and the greatest part of Babylon the Great.”

            Was ancient Judaism false? In Buddhism they have a concept of “Do unto others has you would want them to do to you.” Is that particular belief false? Now, I do believe that other religions(e.g. modern Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Protestantism/Evangelicalism) are false man made religions but they do have kernals of truth in them. They have top be filtered through the True Gospel in order for one to determine those truths though.

            “Looking secularly at the formation of the RCC, and NOT what they themselves claim, we can learn that Constantine, in 325 a.d. formed a new, “state religion”.”

            Okay. Let’s look at secular history. Constantine did not form a new religion. He merely legalized Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. Did you know that he did not even become a Christian until he was on his deathbed. Even by Catholic standards he was not even a Christian until he was baptized on his deathbed. Since that is the case then how could he possibly have founded the Catholic Church?

            “Looking at who Constantine was, we learn that he was an emperor, and had absolute rule. What he said, goes. He made all the laws of his constituents. He was also pagan, and worshiped the triads, or trinities of gods common to pagan worship all the way back to Nimrod’s day. And he wasn’t well physically. He wanted all under his domain to participate in one religion.”

            And this goes along the lines of what I said.

            “He essentially re-wrote Christianity by mixing pagan rituals and icons and idols, AND holidays.”

            What pagan rituals did he mix into Christianity? Icons were in use, among Christians, before Constantine came around. As for holidays, they, too, were in use before Constantine came around. Let me ask you this, if Christianity was pristine, until Constantine came around, does that mean that Our Lord was mistaken when He said that the gates of hell would not prevail against it?

            “He put a Bible together to go with it.”

            Sorry but the Bible was canonized in 393. This was way after Constantine had passed. Let me ask you this, for the sake of argument, if Constantine organized the Bible and you have the same Books in your Bible as we do in ours then does that mean that your church/denomination is a child of the Whore just as much as the Catholic Church is?

            “He called this religion, the Roman Church. Seventy years later, it was renamed the Roman Catholic Church.”

            Where can I see proof of this? Do you have a reference to this?

            “Hence, Christendom was born.”

            So Christendom did not start at the foot of the cross but with Constantine?

            “Hence, Christendom was born. It spawned hundreds, and later thousands of sects, or denominations of it. It essentially was a counterfeit copy of the “one true faith” that was taught in the first century, by Jesus the Christ, or messiah. It was not Christian, since God’s inspired word, the REAL inspired word, says to “stop touching the unclean thing, and I will take you in”. Since Christendom was FILLED with pagan elements, it’s unclean, and as per what God said, He would not take in any of it’s participants. This is just as true today, as it was then.”

            So what you are essentially saying is that the gates of hell prevailed against Christ’s True Church. Mam, I have to rebuke you for calling my Lord and Savior a liar. The gates of hell have not, is not, nor will ever prevail against the Church that Christ founded, the Catholic Church.

            “This is why Jesus taught in the first century, that he “hated a sect”, on more than one occasion.”

            Proof please.

            “So, since God’s word says that religions are the largest part of Babylon the Great, and the RCC was the first sect of Christendom, it IS the mother of a very large part of Babylon the Great, that Revelation to John says is the “harlot who sits upon many waters”. This means many countries, and many peoples in God’s word. The “waters” is a metaphor for them. So, Geoffrey is CORRECT in saying the RCC is the mother of the harlots.”

            And I have just shown where you are mistaken. May the Holy Ghost remove the scales from your eyes in order for you to see the truth of the Gospel.

          • Emery

            Tony;
            As far as the individual beliefs of other religions, those not claiming to be Christian, there exists no point in discussing them. They are not anything more than what God’s word says they are, and that is false religion. Paganism, atheism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Muslimism, etc. etc. etc., are religions. They’re false according to God the Almighty. Why belabor the point? I see no reason, so I won’t.

            A Bible with the apocrypha are not worth even considering as true as far as the added, non-holy spirit inspired books in them go. It is the word of God that is what is important. I’ve compared three dozen or so in and since college 45 years ago. Still do it. Anyway, any Bible that contains words such as hell, cross, ghost, and others are not true or honest translations. Those words, or rather, words that translate into those words in English, never appeared in the ancient texts we have available. All 5,000 or so of them. More are found all the time. It seems every month, I read papers discussing new papyrus or animal skin scrolls, copper scrolls, steiles of the period, clay tablets and clay pottery, portions of building and floors with ancient texts of the periods contained in the Bible. They all serve in one way or another, to gain more accuracy and understanding of the original intent of God, when He inspired His word to be written down, by holy spirit annointed members of the 144,000. The members of that group still alive today that I know, aren’t so inspired to write any of God’s word, but they are inspired to add to the spiritual food from God, through Jesus, that helps us in these last days. God, or rather, Jesus, God’s son, said that this would happen, and said this remnant in the last days, are the “faithful and discreet slave, who feeds (spiritually) the members of the household on time”, and it says also that upon the arrival of the end, that slave is blessed greatly if the master finds him doing so when that end is here. It is important to note that several hundred of those holy spirit annointed members of the 144,000, who are invited by God to be given spirit bodies and go to heaven when they die, or when the end of the tribulation arrives, whichever is first, are on, or were on, the translation teams of 3,000 and more people. They produced the NWT initially, and they produced the 2013 release as well. All of those members worked for over a decade to ensure each and every word was accurate, literally, as compared to all 5,000 available ancient texts. That being the case, there is no way you can tell me the KJV, a Protestant Bible, a Catholic Bible, or any other Bible is as accurate, because I’ve compared them to the ancient texts, and they are most certainly vastly changed. And no evidence exists to support any idea that any of the Apocrypha were inspired by God.

            You asked about Ancient Judaism. It’s the same Judaism of today, more or less. It was created AFTER Jesus was murdered by those Jews, over basically money and greed and avarice. Probably jealousy also. The nation of Israel, prior to the murder of the messiah, practiced and adhered to the Law Covenant. It was NOT the Judaism of today. That religion is apostate as Jesus said. It’s apostate today. In fact, Jesus said all sects are apostate. Sect and denomination have the same meaning.

            The tired old argument that Constantine “legalized” religion, is a complete and total falsehood. A lie told by false religions to try, unsuccessfully, to make them look good and/or acceptable. Constantine assembled from scratch, and from pagan religions and from Christian beliefs, the Roman Church, later re-named the Roman Catholic Church. You cannot change history, and historical records by stating it in a blog. And to ask which rituals and beliefs and icons were added to Christendom is a silly question. No first century Christian, all of whom were holy spirit annointed, making them invited by God, to serve with Jesus in Kingdom rule, in heaven. None used icons, idols, had rituals, or the holidays of today’s apostate Christendom. Christmas and Easter, the two most revered holidays of Christendom, are PAGAN holidays, added to Christendom. Easter celebrates the pagan goddess Ishtar, who had an egg and a rabbit in all the images and statues of her. I say her loosely, because she was fictitious, as were all such gods. Christmas is the celebration of Jupiter, and it was a 12 day sex and food free for all back then, and before the Christ was born, and after, and today as well. You say “the bible was canonized”. By God? Absolutely NOT. By men. Christendom is the worship and following OF MEN, not of God the Almighty. You ask where can I see proof of this? Anywhere. Start looking. It’s all over the libraries of the world, all over the internet, and much of it is in Encyclopaedias. I will not do your research for you. Do as the Bereans did,they searched the scriptures daily, to see if what they were hearing was true. Are you too good for that? I’ve been doing MY research for 45 years. I didn’t do it for you, or anyone else. I did it for personal reasons, and I do use much of it in teaching one on one, and in crowds of hundreds. But no, I won’t teach scripture on a blog.

            You asked about “the gates of hell”. They don’t exist. Hell was a colloquialism found in a small area of Roman province, in the first and second centuries B.C., and was used somewhat in the first century, and it referred to “the grave”. Not some place of fiery torment. That is an invention of religions, not a teaching of God.

            Tony, you have not “shown me where I’m mistaken”. You’ve shown me that you are gullible. You’ve swallowed the lies of religion, and the lies of men, and ignored the teachings of God the Almighty. It might not be a bad idea to change your methods of learning, and learn things for yourself, rather than accepting what you’re told and taught as truth, without checking it’s accuracy first.

      • Ron S

        I’m glad that you posted that remark Geoffrey. I felt guilty for years for stopping attending my home church because the services had become like rock concerts. They would not even concede to having one hymn in the morning service for those who wanted it. I can see now that this was the beginning of the Laodiceaisation of the church. (This was about 20 years ago). Maybe it won’t be too long before Christians will be forced to meet in homes as in China and other totalitarian states.

        • GRACE

          I have felt that burden on my heart for a few years now and some are already meeting in homes because they cannot find a church body that follows God’s word, most have become social clubs, they look good on the outside but they deny the power of Christ or don’t acknowledge Him, Ichabod is upon their doorposts. Christ is on the outside knocking to come in, this is so sad for our precious Savior who bled and took our sins upon Himself, He should have the first seat of honor.

          • Ron

            Grace the situation is so very, very sad Indeed! The Apostasy is rampant and it won’t be long before The Lord callc us home.
            God Bless You Grace!

    • I wish to attempt to give some answer to your inquiry on “seeing the church going forward” in these, the last days. It will also address going to the “organized” church. If interested, …mord.keeney@comcast.net.

      A pilgrim on the trail

  • Genesis1:26
    Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and birds
    of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all
    the creatures that move along the ground.”
    27 So God created man in his own image,
    In the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them.
    Fast forward to Genesis 6:5
    The Lord saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart
    was only evil all the time.
    The Lord was grieved that he made man on the earth,
    and his heart was filled with pain.
    Doesn’t anyone care that God’s heart can be filled with pain?
    That His Heart can be broken?
    Shame on us! We will stand before him who is Holy, and give an account!
    Forgive me, Lord, for breaking your heart!

    • MAMY

      Wow…. Thats deeeeeeep Suzanne…very very deep

      • Leonard

        Mamy, you gays always crack us up!

        • Sir,why are you judging people?Look at the word of God in Romans 2:3 And thinkest thou this,O man,that judgest them which do such things,and doest the same,that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?The word of God was not written for men and woman of God to pick and choose which scripture they believe in.God will never go back on his word.There is no grey area with God or his word.Also read Revelations chapter 22:18-19.Scripture is from the 1611 Kink James Version.

    • anita

      I agree. God please forgive me, I only want to be obedient to your will. I love God with all my heart, soul and mind and pray he destroys all iniquity and uses me for His glory. God is so merciful and loving and the thought of being eternally separated from my Father in heaven is unimaginable for me. To deny the person that God created you to be, is the same as rejecting God. How can you be happy with God , if you aren’t happy with who God created you to be? Sin is the problem. Jesus is the solution!

      • Emery

        Anita;
        This is James 4:8 Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you indecisive ones.

        To draw close to Him, we must learn what His ENTIRE WILL is for us to do, and then do that will, all day, every day, no exceptions. We find that in the inspired word of God He gave us. He speaks to us through the Bible, if we speak to Him, daily, many times a day, in prayer in Jesus’ name.

  • Kim

    I’ve had to do online church for 4 yrs now. Sugarland Bible Church in Texas has sound doctrinal teaching. I’m in Florida aka sodom & Gomorrah. “get you some of that”

    • Pam

      Hi Kim, I’m Pam, I moved from Austin to a small coastal town in Texas and there is no doctrinal church near me so I listen to my church online too, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. It’s a bible church as well. I read Bible Prophecy Blog and read Andy Woods’ articles all the time. He is a strong biblical teacher. Thank God for the internet. God graciously gives all the tools to get correct teaching so there’s no excuse for any Christian to be without bible doctrine in their souls. My friend lives in Sugar Land and I go see her frequently, I will certainly visit Sugar Land Bible Church next time I am there, thanks for mentioning that you attend there. God Bless you.

      • Linda Darby

        Pam, we have a very small Bible believing Church here in Austin. It is called Heights Assembly of God, it is located at 3314 Burleson Rd. We are small because the Word is preached and no one but a few want the truth anymore. Let me know if you want to know more.

        • Pam

          Linda, I don’t live in Austin, I moved to a small town on the Texas Coast. Thanks though.

    • JA

      I have also been doing that too. I listen to John MacArthur on his Grace to You app. Hes in CA. I have learned soooo much from him then I even learned in the church I was attending. That church has become a Liodicean church, taking on the worldly secular things. John MacArthur has great sermons and a lot on the book of Revelations and end times, the difference between the rapture and Jesus’s second coming, and Israel’s future. He also has a great 2part sermon on homosexuality and the bible.He also has a great Strange Fire conference on there with like 19 parts about the Charasmatic movement. I have learned a lot from him and a lot from Geoffrey. Both men teach from sound doctrine!! Its hard to find too many like that anymore now a days. The church I was attending never taught on Revelations, just wanted to be the “cool” church with the “Awesome” pastor, took verses out of context all the time, used stupid move clips to tie into his “sermon”, or made stupid videos with his staff, is so afraid to offend gays that all he says is we need to love them, never anything about telling them they will never enter the Kingdom if they don’t turn from their sin.. Ugh.. I can go on and on… anyways, I think what im trying to say is, I think a lot of people are going to be going the same route we are with finding and listening to sound doctrine pastors online. Im so thankful for Johns Grace to You app. There are very few and far between churches out there in this day of age that teach sound doctrine. But Ill tell you what… church is everyday for me cause I don’t go a day without listening to one of his sermons!

      • Pam

        JA, I am reading The Keys to Spiritual Growth by John MacArthur. He is awesome and right on with correct Bible doctrine, as I have always been taught from a very young age. I also have his app. I study God’s Word daily, that’s how He speaks to us, so daily intake is of utmost important for the Christian to not only stay in His will, intake of His Word is the ultimate in worship and glorification of the Lord Jesus Christ. If we seek Him we shall find Him. I love to see Christians occupied with Him and passing on where they get accurate teaching. God bless!

      • Steve

        Revelation

      • Deb

        I love John MacArthur! He is one of the few who still preach the truth. For those who cannot find a Bible preaching church, he’s the next best thing.

        • tiptopsaidhe

          I have great respect for Dr. MacArthur. But, he teaches from the minority texts. Two of my pastors attended his seminary, and neither have ever owned a KJV bible.

    • Terry

      Kim. Don’t know where in Florida you live, but I live in Lakeland and my family and I go to Calvary Chapel – not the Calvary Baptist listed in the article. At Calvary Chapel, we teach the bible as the complete word of God, cover to cover, word for word. There is no watering down of His message and I know all Calvary Chapels around the country are 95% the same. There are many in the state and I would urge you to seek one out. Online study is a great gift in this modern age, but we Christians need to sharpen our metal against the metal of other Christians. In His Name.

    • GRACE

      There is a pastor named Charles Lawson, wonderful preaching, I listen to him online, he is on old paths and on youtube, very anointed and lets the Holy Spirit lead him in preaching.

      • Heather

        Love Pastor Lawson, he’s one of the few that has not waivered. It’s harder and harder to hear the word f the Lord without it being watered down and butchered.
        Radio stations are becoming few and far in between with having preacher who really preach the word of God as it should be. One station brings on Rick Warren quite often and immediately the station gets flipped to another. Then I start hearing the Seventh Day Adventist, flip again, then theres the JW channel. Within the course of a few minutes, I have heard some very strange doctrine and I am so thankful that Geoffrey helps to keeps us awake!

        Amos 8:11(KJV)

        11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

  • Kim

    Toby Mac was wrong when he sang “this freak show is leaving the ground”. This “freak show” stays behind! Notice the vomiting of Laodicea is the last event to happen before the “Church” leaves this earth. Just sayin…

    • As I said above, the whole reason for the Rapture is to preserve the Church from it’s own self-destruction.

      • eddie santana

        Rethink that, my brutha…the rapture is a REWARD for the church, because God’s word is true and he said that he will not let his Church suffer wrath; as well as the beginning of the fulfillment of Jesus’ promise to the disciples/apostles when He told them that He will bring them with Him. The next fulfillment of that promise is the Millenial reign, and then the final promise is after Armageddon and we live with Him evermore.

        • Tony

          Where does it say that the Church will not suffer?

          • Rowena

            The church is the Bride of Christ. God intends that she join her Bridegroom for a great wedding feast and after that share with Him in ruling the nations. Allowing His bride to suffer through the tribulation is inconsistent with the specific purposes for which He has called out the church from the world, why He has rescued her “from the coming wrath.” (1 Thessalonians 1:10)

          • Rowena

            Rowena, this speaks about the wrath that is to come if one does not convert and live for Christ. Let me ask you this, why would the Church not want to follow in the footsteps of her beloved Bridegroom? Is it not fair that the Bridegroom suffers and not the Bride? Christ suffered for us because He loves us and He redeemed us. Should we not in turn be willing to suffer hardships and torments for Him because we love Him? It id easy to say that we have faith and love Christ in good times but our faith and love for Christ is put to the test in difficult situations.

      • Emery

        Geoffrey;
        No rapture is contained in God’s word. You mistake the taking into the clouds of the remnant of the 144,000 with a “rapture”. It aint gonna happen as they say here. No rapture. Only the 144,000 are going to heaven, the rest of us will live on a paradise Earth. The second resurrection. The unrighteous.

        • So you are a Jehovah’s Witness, eh? Nice to finally see your true colors.

          • Emery

            Geoffrey;
            And that means exactly WHAT?

      • StEve

        It is written in Psalms 139 that we are ” fearfully and wonderfully made. He made man in His image. So to say that He made a mistake in forming you is blasphemy. And changing a few body parts and taking a few pills will never change who you are. You were chosen in Christ before the foundations of the earth were formed. Even medically it is dangerous for men to take meds developed for women and visa versa .

        • GRACE

          amen steve. It is rebellion against our Creator, years ago I went through a season where I was so down on myself and was upset because of the family I was born into, God dealt with me graciously, chastised me, healed me through a period of time, it was so bad that even though I was a child of God I contemplated suicide but God was faithful and patient and He kept me safe and didn’t let suicide snatch me from His Big wonderful hands and He let me know I was put there for His glory and now all that anger is gone, praise His Name so not accepting ourselves as God created us or where He put us is rebellion and sodomites, transgenders show their self hatred for what God created them to be physically and rebel against God’s plan for their lives, they need to repent to find true happiness and deliverance just as I had to repent of hating the family I was put in. I can now intercede on their behalf in prayer and witness to my family when God leads and opens a door for me to do so, so they can be delivered and find salvation which feels so good inside, the joy He gives me in place of the hate is so beautiful. Rebellion and hate are horrible feelings especially toward one’s self because you cannot get away from yourself, you have to go through it and w/out Christ you can do nothing but with Him you can do all things. I’ll praise and worship Him forever and when I get to Heaven I will be perfect and will be able to perfectly worship Him. There will be no distractions, no petty problems to interfere, I can’t wait and want it so badly right now but I know it is all in His time and for His glory. The joy of the Lord is our strength. And fellowshipping with you all here by reading your beautiful inputs and learning more of Him through brother Griders articles is such a blessing to me. I’ve never met any of you but I know most of you and see your heart for God by your comments and I will recognize you in Heaven, what a blessed day that is going to be, Glory to God! I love you all with the love of God and Christ Jesus.

          • DC

            Grace, you are aptly named. What a beautiful testimony! I, too, love to think about when we get to Heaven and forget all the hurt we experienced and caused here. It’s incomprehensible!

            1 Cor. 2:9 KJV

            “But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.”

    • MAMY

      You just said!

    • terrihoop

      Just a thought as to why the pre trib rapture is correct. remember just something i thought of. Christians are save thru faith,
      and once saved you cannot lose your salvation so Jesus says those who take the mark have chosen the side of evil and will go to hell but what if Christians are not raptured and go thru the the tribulation period and they are weak and take the mark so go to Hell that would mean you could lose your salvation making Jesus a liar or since you cannot lose your salvation Christians would not go to hell for taking the mark in which case Jesus is a liar and we all know he is not. Also the tribulation could not happen until Christians removed since the Holy Spirit indwells Christians and is called the restrainer so Satan will be unable to do his worst while the Holy Spirit is here. Also there is precedent that God removes and saves righteous ones. Look at Noah and the flood, Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah, the firstborn of the Jews.the tribulation is the time of Jacob’s trouble and is God’s last ditch attempt to have people acknowledge Jesus as Lord and savior he would not leave his bride (the Church) behind to suffer when they already acknowledge him as Lord. The tribulation is more for the Jewish people than for anybody else plus the end of the church age is when Christians are raptured and you are no longer saved by grace. during the tribulation period by not taking the mark you show your allegiance to God. these are just thoughts i have and i hope no hateful comments arise about this post. Go in Christ

      • Heather

        Amen terrihoop

        1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV)

        9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

        God bless you

      • On point to the max.. you really get it..Praise the Lord . The reference abt Noah , then Sodom and Gommorah, its wht the Word tells us ..I speak on these and more all the time. Great comment.

        • Tracy

          @terrihoop, Amen!

          Rev. 3:10 (KJV)
          10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

          The Lord says “keep thee from the hour of temptation……” to try them that dwell…. Just my opinion, He keeps His own from the horrors which are about to befall the world. If I am wrong, please forgive me.

      • GRACE

        God bless you terrihoop for your comment, Now I don’t know for sure but I think that is at least one reason brother Grider refers to when he says God will take out the bride before the tribulation because left here one would have to physically give their life to not take the mark, there will be no selling, no medical, no anything unless you have the mark and also deception is going to be much worse during the tribulation and most of all it is the time of Jacob’s troubles in which God deals with Israel. I believe the gentile age in reference to accepting Christ is coming to an end, the door is closing. Yes, there will be those who get saved during the tribulation and a lot of them will have to give their physical lives up but not the bride who God has been dealing with now through tribulations and trials. I don’t get the thinking of those who say we won’t be taken out of here because we are no better than any other Christian who suffered a martyrs death because either you have made up your mind to be with Christ to the end even if it costs your physical life or you didn’t have a real salvation experience. For even if we had to choose between a physical life for a few more years or death, the child of God will choose the physical death, we die daily to ourselves if we are in christ anyway. But there are other truths in God’s word that point to the rapture, many just have a difficult time with the timing of the rapture, I believe in a pre-trib rapture and some believe in a mid-way rapture and then some believe in a post trib. rapture. I don’t believe God has a reason for the precious bride to go through the tribulation just to prove we choose Him over a few more pathetic years, I have already accepted Him regardless and He has been faithful to keep me through a lot over the years, He’s never let me down, not once. This is a true story, at the age of 12 I had a dream of the rapture, now I wasn’t told about a rapture, wasn’t raised in the church so the dream I know only came from God and not from a person putting thoughts into my heard which I know happens in churches but I saw lot’s of ppl going up in the air after I heard Jesus say, come up to me my children and in the dream I ran into the house where my father and step-mother were watching t.v. and I told them the Lord is here and they needed to come quickly but my father said I’m busy now, I’ll do it later so I took my little sister by the hand and led her outside where the ppl were going up and told her Jesus is here to take us to heaven and I said here we are Jesus and that was the end of the dream. In real life she was the first and only sibling I led to Christ, now more family members are being saved by God’s grace. 🙂 Blessed is he or she who has ears to hear. I apologize for the lengthy comment, I pray it is a blessing to someone just as you blessed me with your comment 🙂

  • Bpatterson

    This is a wake up call, one of many. If a person with that much theological background can be groomed by the enemy to deceive the flock and blatantly slander God’s Holy Ordained Order, the end has truly begun. This abomination truly has no conscience, to drag “it’s” family into the sin let alone many who will be led astray by the willful actions of his disobedience to God’s natural order of life.
    Lord Jesus come quickly and separate the wheat from the tares, our hope in your love and mercy will sustain us in these end times.
    Jude 1:4
    For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    • And it clearly shows that it is not the amount of Bible knowledge you possess, but rather the attitude of your heart towards how much you BELIEVE in the TRUTH of what is written.

      “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:10 (KJV)

      When the Bible calls you a sinner, do you ACCEPT that judgment and pray the Lord for victory over it? Or do you reinterpret the Bible to JUSTIFY your sin? This man decided the Bible was wrong, and that his sin was right. That is the thinking of an UNSAVED person.

      • Skywatcher

        A huge AMEN to that! I still cannot get over the audacity of this person to say the Bible was wrong! We all know that those who are in a teaching/preaching ministry are held to greater account to God. I sure wouldn’t want to be this mixed up reprobate, when he stands before the Great White Throne Judgment! It really saddened me to hear him desecrate the hymns and to exalt the likes of Springsteen, etc.! This person is no more a Christian than a Tennessee walking horse is a Shetland pony! The worst part of it is…people will allow him to be their pastor! The LGBT probably are looking for his services right now! Mt. 7: 20-23 really applies to this nut case!

        • GRACE

          amen sky, that passage also reminds me of the Catholic church and many other false churches claiming to be Christian. All our good works are like filthy rags, usually done out of selfishness and won’t earn anyone brownie points with God our Father. The only good works that will remain are the ones done by and led by the Holy Spirit in line with God’s word through true born again Christians who do the works to please God and think nothing of gaining a reward, just pure obedience. It’s ironic when a famous person dies, the world mourns and claims they are in Heaven doing this or that and they talk about all the good works and how good the person was when most of the time it’s further from the truth, it just leads to further deception on Jesus being the Truth, the Life and the only Way to Heaven, Christ is never mentioned and the people speaking at their funerals and the media believe they are in Heaven having a grand ole time no matter whether they died with needles in their arms or committed suicide, etc. It just gives a false way of how one can get to heaven w/out repentance and believing in Christ.

          • Heather

            You said it sister Grace! Blessings to you…..

          • Tony

            Catholics do not believe that we are saved by good works. We believe that we are saved by the grace of God. Did you know that the Council of Trent condemned the erroneous idea that we are saved by good works alone?

          • Emery

            Tony;
            James 2:20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith without works is useless?

            James 2:26 Indeed, just as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

            OR

            James 2:20King James Version (KJV)

            20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

            James 2:26King James Version (KJV)

            26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

  • Larry/vietnamvet1971

    Ole Satan…that old Devil is running to & fro…like a Roaring lion seeking those whom he can Kill…..steal & destroy….he preys on the weak like the Evil lion he is and the gullible…prey that do not know the enemy or plays with the lion do not know what he can do to them…adam & eve 2 prime examples…..walked with GOD talked with GOD…but they were no match for him…..

    • eddie santana

      That is awesome Larry. Yes, the Devil tricked Adam and Eve, and of course he didn’t appear as a hideous evil creature, but something harmless, maybe even attractive.

      • DC

        Yes, Eddie, the devil was the first to apply peer pressure, questioning if God really said what He did regarding the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, which would mean Adam and Eve’s deaths. Then the serpent told them they surely would NOT die, goading them to try it. “Ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”(Gen. 3:5)
        Not much has changed, as now the serpent is goading man to question EVERYTHING that God said.

        • MAMY

          Wooooow!

        • Emery

          Satan ALSO challenged mankind, saying we would NOT love God and worship Him unless there was something in it for us. He said we won’t worship and love Him simply because He first loved us, so we love Him. The jury is still out until the final battle when Satan is abyssed for a thousand years, thankfully.

  • Nicole

    “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!” (Galations 1:8)
    “And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.” (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)

    • King James only please, thanks for commenting! 🙂

    • MAMY

      You have been set straight. Go forth and talketh King James, foul mouthed wretch! Thanks for commenting!

      • Cochise

        Said the woman who fed her baby shorten bread

  • dELSON

    The next time God or an angel speaks to you, record the message and post it online. Thank in advance for doing this.

    • Listener

      BOOM. Mic drop.

  • eddie santana

    Even though this Robinson guy is obviously a whack job, I think prayer is in order for his/her soul.

    • DC

      I agree, while also questioning if even prayer can help someone whose conscience is seared?

      • eddie santana

        You bring up a good point, DC. But God himself declared that he sets some apart for destruction as well as salvation (ie., Pharoah and Judas), but keep in mind that he has moved the heart of the most ruthless killers, so it’s not over til the fat lady sings (that is…til a person physically dies).

      • MAMY

        AC/DC stands for Anti Christ / Devils Child. Hmmmm. I think in your case it stands for Dumb Child. Prayer HELPS everyone, Stupid!

        • Listener

          Literally not true at all.

  • Raymond Morris

    For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, (Rom 1:25-28, NASB)

  • eddie santana

    Yep. You have people worshiping each other, rather than God. “Oh, that’s just writing in a book;”, or, “no one really knows what the Bible means, because it can be interpreted in different ways.” lol. Can I get an Amen? hehe

    • MAMY

      Yuuuuuuup

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    • Leonard

      Here’s where the Seventh Day Adventists are heading:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trFLJAlOe1Y

    • First of the Baptist Church is a denominational being.A man is the founder of this denomination, who did hang, bleed, or die on that cruel cross on Mt.Calvary.Obviously this person has been listening to that old devil all along thinking it to be an angel of God.When it comes to God, Jesus died for one church that he tells Peter about in Matthew chapter16, which is the Church of Christ, Jesus Christ had 1 body which is his Church, where man comes from being the Founder of Church is troubling the world today & got many people lost in sin, not just gay people only but all people who does not hear, believe, repent, confess,& be baptized shall be saved not in a denominational setting where lies like this story & behavior is tolerated & accepted,God loves the sinner but hates all sin.

  • Tracy

    We need to be spiritually fed and to stay grounded in the true Word, since Satan is trying so very hard to deceive as many as possible through these false teachers/preachers. They’re running rampant during these last days.

    Matthew 7:13-15 (KJV)
    13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadelth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

    • MAMY

      No kidding, Tracy!! Really?

  • Virginia

    This isn’t even going to be worth my read, God will split hell wide open with people like this. And that’s a fact jack not a judgement

    • MAMY

      Thank you, Virginia for your contribution

  • Virginia

    This isn’t even going to be worth my read, God will split hell wide open with people like this. And that’s a fact jack not a judgement. Heart breaking isn’t it?

  • MrApple

    Transgender is a mental illness.

    • eddie santana

      They don’t see it that way, but its true. A mental dysfunction exacerbated by hormonal imbalance.

  • CHAR

    Well, I’ve always heard that the Baptists have several different sects, and now they have just added another one to it. Isn’t that old devil beguiling, just like with Adam and Eve and he comes to this he/she person and asks him/her a question, just like he did in the Garden. His/her church will certainly attract their own kind. It’s a real eye opener on how beguiling the devil really is to make this person think that God spoke to him and actually told him to live in sin. Wow!

    Yes, it’s questionable if the wife is a transgender or if they are homosexual? Very confusing, huh.

    • Patrice

      Well I belong to a NT baptist church and all KJV bible, bible, bible teaching. THere are some definite apostate Baptist churches popping up all over and every day.

      • MAMY

        Ok, Pat. Thank you for that valuable information. I will sleep better tonight

    • MAMY

      Yeah, them Baptists and their sects! Do they perform blood rituals, Char? Have you “HEARD” that too?

  • Al

    It doesn’t matter what his training was or what he thought he heard he’s been misled. The word of God is not wrong never has been wrong and never will be wrong. This person sadly is completely wrong. It also multiplies the problem that he wants to identify as a woman and for the church that he is allowed to even preach or speak to anyone. Get angry if you want but the truth will come on the day of the rapture.

  • David

    The problem with him is the idea that he or we are not broken. We are all broken and in need of Christ. If God accepted sin it would be a slap in the face of our savior who gave up everything for us. This is satin at work and we need to be in Prayer for all to see the truth.

  • Marian

    Wow, so much truth in the comments here.

    Satan is alive and well in those organizations registered with the government as 501c3 charities.

    The real church is the body of believers, many of whom are assembling in structures that don’t require an expensive sound system, a rock band, and “Family Life Center.” In the 90s, our pastor predicted that Christians would start meeting in homes… as our family does now.

  • Lee

    This is ridiculous. Isn’t there anyone in that church who can clear the air and let everyone know how God feels about this? First and foremost, I will not attend a church where the minister is a women. I am a women and I know that God is protecting women. I appreciate my older women friends teaching me and reminding me of scripture now and then. But, I disapprove of a women as a leader in the church. NEVER.

    • Patrice

      Agreed.

  • Tony

    If this person thinks that his/her actions are biblical then by what authority do you have to say that he is wrong?

    • DC

      Thinking that the interpretation of the bible is in the eye of the beholder is part of the problem. Anyone can warp the Word to their own pleasure, but it’s still wrong. The Authority is God Almighty.

      • Tony

        Okay. So how does God communicate the right interpretation and how does one know if they have the right interpretation. It would seem to me that God,being all knowing, would know that something like this could happen and that He would set up some sort of a system to prevent wrong teachings such as this.

        • DC

          How hard is it to interpret “Male and female He created them”? Not male, female, transgender, fluid,and questioning.

          He did know this would happen and told us through Paul:

          2 Tim. 4:3-4 KJV

          3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

          Because of Free Will, God is not going to “prevent” anyone from making wrong choices or twisting His Word to suit their agendas. We wouldn’t have cults if that were the case. He gave us the Word to instruct us; it’s up to us to use it and live by it. He also said that people who were teachers (“masters” in the KJV) and taught wrongly would be more harshly judged. (See James 3)

          • eddie santana

            That is AWESOME, DC. And someone might say, “Well, transgenders and the confused are the result of birth defects, or our bodies made a mistake.” Well guess what…the operative word here, is “mistake.” You don’t embrace mistakes and build your world around it; but you correct them and make things as they should be. The Devil is the “Great Corrupter.” Even though someone is born one way, God’s word doesn’t change to adapt to anomalies of life. Never ever.

          • MAMY

            How about male,female and stupid? The stupid need constant counseling and hugs to make them feel better. Should just drink some moonshine

        • eddie santana

          Tony, biblical interpretation is accepted by faith. The Bible says that what isn’t done in faith is sin. God has a perfect fail-safe built into his word. It’s faith, and the help and direction our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ and the Spirit’s leading. If one who is following God interprets the Bible in a way that it’s not meant to, eventually, God in his mercy will direct someone to correct us. We have the option of listening or not. But Christians or not we will be held accountable for our relationship with the Lord, and how we treat the word. Tony, if Jesus is your personal Lord and Savior, you have access to the throne of grace, and God will make things known to you. If not, then I invite you to ask Jesus to take away your sins, and bring you into the fold of God, and illuminate his word to you.

          • DC

            Thank you for adding about the Holy Spirit’s guidance. Great post.

          • Tony

            Eddie, I want to comment on a few things that you said in your post.
            1. If biblical interpretation is accepted by faith then how do you know that this person is not showing faith in his/her way?
            2. How do you explain the myriad of denominations out there? How do you know that it truly is the “Spirit” that is leading you and not something else? Again we go back to the varying beliefs of denominations out there. Surely Our Lord did not intend such chaos.
            3. I do believe that we will be held accountable for our relationship with the Lord. Let me ask you this, if one is “saved” then what kind of relationship should they have with the Lord? How can one really know if they are having the right relationship with the Lord? If they are not and they claim to be saved then they may well not be saved.
            4. Yes, The Lord Jesus is my Lord and my Savior and He constantly leads me into fellowship with Him through the Sacraments(especially the Eucharist and Reconciliation), Scripture reading, praying, and activity within the Church.

        • Amie

          Love your comments, Tony. Lead them gently. 🙂

  • Anathema…accursed of God.

    • MAMY

      Snoopy, yes cursed…. Cursed….ok

  • Joyce Harris

    Demons at work to say the least!

    • MAMY

      Ya THINK?

  • JESUS WARNED US ABOUT THIS STUFF, TIME IS SHORT JESUS CHRIST (THE ANNOINTED ONE) GOD’S HOLY SON IS COMING! PRAISE THE LORD TO LIVE WITH JESUS IN PEACE ,LOVE, HAPPINESS, HOLINESS ,RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR ETERNITY, I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO EVIL BEING TOTALY GONE ,GOD WILL WIPE OUT SATAN ,DEMONS PERIOD NO MORE DIRTY LAUNDRY, FIGHTING, CUSSING, KILLING(ABORTIONS,MURDER) HATE, DRUG, PERVERSIONS, ETC NO MORE! JESUS LOVES EVERYONE ,HE DIED ON THE CROSS FOR EVERYONES SINS, HE BEING HOLY WITHOUT SIN TOOK OUR SINS UPON HIMSELF, SO WE COULD BE WITH HIM FOR ETERNITY.JESUS BLOOD IS HOLY WITHOUT SIN IT WASHES EVERYONE CLEAN FROM WHATEVER YOU HAVE DONE, WE ARE WASHED WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, THE ANNOINTED ONE, GOD’S ONLY HOLY SON, JESUS LOVES EVERYONE THAT MUCH HE DIED FOR EVERYONE,REPENT OF YOUR SINS,TURN FROM THEM TRUST JESUS TODAY HE IS GETTING CLOSER EACH DAY…..JUDGEMENT IS COMING EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE GOD AS SURE AS YOU NEED AIR,AND WATER TO LIVE,ANYONE THAT DOESNT HAVE JESUS BLOOD COVERING THEIR SINS WILL BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE IN REVELATIONS IT SPEAKES OF THIS BOTTOMLESS PIT OF FIRE(FOR ETERNITY)FALLING,BURNING, SUFFERING WITH ALL YOUR 5 SENSES. YOU WILL REGRET THE TIMES YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FROM A CHRISTIAN THAT TRYED TO GIVE YOU A CHRISTIAN TRAC ON HOW TO RECIEVE JESUS AS YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR, CAUSE HE IS OUR SAVIOR GIVEN TO US BY GOD OUR FATER WHO LOVES EVERYKNE TO GIVE US JESUS CHRIST (THE ANNOINTED ONE) OF GOD . FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE JESUS BLOOD COVERING THEIR SINS WE WILL BE REWARED FOR WHAT WE DID IN OUR LIFE ON EARTH , THE RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE DID, CAUSE THESE ARE OF GOD HE IS RIGHTEOUS. (WE ARE COVERED WITH THE BLOOD OF JESUS, REPENTED OF OUR SINS ,WE TURNED AWAY FROM OUR SINS ,AND DONT DO THEM ANYMORE JESUS HAS CHANGED OUR LIVES,SO YOU WANT JESUS CHRIST ,HE IS THE ONE WHO LOVES YOU ,WE WILL LIVE FOR ETERNITY WITH JESUS IN LOVE, AND PEACE .,EVERYDAY JESUS HELPS PEOPLE ,LOVES PEOPLE.HE CHANGES NOT, I AM THE SAME YESTERDAY,TODAY, AND FOREVER.HE HEALED PEOPLE,RAISED THEM FROM THE THE DEAD ,OPENED THE EYES OF THE BLIND, MADE THE DEAF TO HEAR, HE CHANGES NOT HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY,TODAY,FOREVER.IN HIS DAYS IN ISRAEL,JERUSALEM ECT… JESUS DOES ALL THESE THINGS TODAY OUR TODAY ,HIS WORD THE BIBLE IS TRUTH, HE IS CREATOR, LORD ,KING HOLY, PERFECT ,LOVING,KIND ,PATIENT,MERCIFUL ,ALL KNOWING.GET ON GOD’S SIDE HE IS THE WINNER IN THIS BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD(GOD) and evil(satan) , satan has no power to beat GOD……HE’S THROWN IN THE BOTTOMLESS PITT…..GOD WINS PRAISE HIS GLORIOUS NAME FOREVER!!! BE BLESSED GOD IS VICTORIOUS ALREADY.EVEN SO COME LORD COME (THE RAPTURE) IS HAPPENING REAL SOON BE READY ,LIVE HOLY AS GOD IS HOLY, 1PETER 1:16 BE YE HOLY ,FOR I AM HOLY. / MATT 5:8 BLEESED ARE THE PURE IN HEART FOR THEY SHALL SEE GOD. AMEN

    • MAMY

      Carolann…come to the light

      • HI THERE 🙂 I am in the light,JESUS IS THE LIGHT 1 John 5:7 GOD IS LIGHT , AND IN HIM IS NO DARKNESS. THE BIBLE IS ALL TRUTH , THE WORD OF GOD IS ALL TRUTH HE LOVE EVERYONE……Have a nice Tuesday MAMY……

        • Heather

          Amen Carolann! Nice to see you posting again sister. Yes, Jesus even loves trolls like MAMY.

  • Bob

    It would be interesting to hear what kind of spin he would put on these verses:
    1 Cor 6:9-10
    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
    And
    1 Tim 1:9-11
    9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and moral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

  • MAMY

    I KNOW everyone here loves the tv preachers and Israel blah blah blah. I know you see Joel Olsteen as the next messiah. I would sooner go and listen to this dude who dresses like a chick preach than watch Joel Olsteen. Israel is a lost nation! They reject Jesus Christ…. Should we do the same? LOL

  • eddie santana

    Thanks, DC.

  • eddie santana

    Methinks Mamy is bored and has nothing to do. lol

    • DC

      Something hit too close to home, for sure, b/c no one started anything; she did and has gotten more hostile as people ignored her. Sounds like a child got on mommy’s computer. She’s poking at any and everyone to get a response. You think if someone wanted to spend hours on a blog they’d want to actually contribute something. At least make an intelligently crafted response to the articles. I don’t even care if it’s someone I disagree with, at least it’s interesting to look at scripture together, you know?

  • eddie santana

    Ok Mamy…fess up, you’re a transgender, aren’t you? lol

  • After watching the video about this transgender, it left a sick feeling in my stomach. I didn’t even go to seminar school but I’ve read and studied God’s Word and I know that this is immoral and an abomination! We are living in a very deceptive and apostate time. We must be very close on hearing that trumpet call of God. I’m so ready to leave this sick and twisted world. It doesn’t have anything for me anymore. Come Lord Jesus!

  • Who

    Whats your problem Mamy? You have made smart A## comments on everyones comments in here.. whats your deal? And for the record…. we do not like Joel Olsteen.. where have you been when Geoffrey posts articles about this “False teacher, Feel good, prosperity, motivational” speaker..thats what he really is..

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  • eddie santana

    Sure jimmyb, there are churches out there way out in left field, but there are also bible-believing churches still left that people can hook up with. I never advocate avoiding corporate worship because there’s no good churches left. That’s the best place to develop Christian relationships, because even in heretical churches, there may be some true believers there (the remnant I talked about).

  • carson

    so she/he say’s the word of God is wrong, so does even an atheist by the way, so anyway some group calling itself a christian church praises she/he and sets them up as their preacher leader…

    It doesn’t get any weirder, but yeah it will get weirder as the day’s wax on.

    oh well I’m a stranger and pilgrim on the earth hebrews 11 fits the days

  • Pam

    This is the evil manifesting from the POLITICALLY CORRECT DOCTRINE OF DEMONS. Know it.

  • Michael Garrison

    In a way, this person is correct. The King James version from 1611 has been manipulated by the Church (during the process of interpreting The True Word-manuscripts- by orders of King James). Why would the interpreters, who were mostly Catholic, lie about the interpretations? Web search “1611 Bible” and read the “Letter From the Interpreters (Translators?) to the Reader” and you’ll read where the Catholic Church HAD to make the True Word a lie, mainly because if they told the true interpretations, then their Catholic “religion” would be proven as the lie that it is.

    Here is how it’s stated (paraphrasing): “they (the Catholic Interpreters) were afraid to bring their gold (religious beliefs) to the touchstone….”. A touchstone is a piece of black slate used by gold prospectors. When a specimen is found that looks like gold, you scratch the specimen across the black slate, if the “scratch” on the slate remains gold, then you have gold. If the scratch remains black, then you have fool’s gold. And that’s exactly what the Letter From the Interpreters states: that the Catholic Church’s gold (religion) is fool’s gold (fake).

    This should not be mistaken with Islam, which this Church created out of thin air, following the dogma of the Catholic Church, which is why Muslims and Catholics get along so well. But it’s not just Islam, this Church also created Lutherans, Methodists, Mormons, Pentacostal, and on and on and on and on and on and on……

  • Frances Te Whaiti

    Matthew 7:15 Watch out for false prophets They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder. Psalm 41:11 I know that you are pleased with me, for my enemy does not triumph over me.

  • Dianne

    This man is GREATLY DECEIVED and needs much prayer for deliverance. I thank God for those who have been delivered from Gender Dysphoria and help others to come out of the snare of the devil.
    In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe NOT, lest the LIGHT of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL of CHRIST, who is the image of GOD, should SHINE unto them. 2 Corinthians 4:4

  • Pearl

    Its pretty encouraging to me. I know I’ve read in Galationa 328 There is neither male or female. We are all one in Christ Jesus. Selah amen. #gay revival

    • Robert Davis

      Galations 3:28 is refering to the form or condition, of the saved in the new heavenly kingdom after we depart from this world and have been resurrected. Have you not heard this statement: We will be changed, in a moment, in the twinkkle of an eye. And, it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that we will be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

  • megan

    Wow, what a bunch of judges. You are the ones that wear the WWJD bracelets, right? I’m guessing Jesus would take Allyson into his arms and thank her for sharing God’s love with his people. Not sure what you all have in mind, tar? Feathers? That would be pretty Christ like, no? You are not her judge. Stay in your own lane, stop hurting other people (that is really Christ like too). And if you think you are not hurting Allyson, her friends and family, but simply looking for signs of the end times, you are kidding yourselves. You are throwing stones from your own nasty, judgy, holier than thou houses. “King James only please.” Lol. Jesus came to me in a dream and told me that was the one that is the most accurate. Go reflect on what being Christian really means.

    • No, Jesus would turn to Allyson and tell him that “I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Luke 13:3 (KJV)

    • leigh

      Megan you are so far off the mark unfortunately . We are called to righteously judge! Sin is VERY SERIOUS in the eyes of the Lord. You prescribe to a watered down lukewarm form of the Gospel where anything goes. God is not all LOVE. Above all else He is HOLY and Righteous and never changing! He is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. He will not tolerate sin and if people think they can go ahead and change their ‘gender’ on any old whim, you are sadly mistaken. God does not make mistakes and someone like the ‘preacher’ above will be held accountable for changing Gods Holy, Perfect Word.
      Rev 22:19
      And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

  • Tina

    Fred, our Father God’s grace and glory of Jesus Christ our Lord Savior who died for the sins of the world and occurs so through him we must be forgiven for our sins. dear beloved brothers, sister you he forgot he commanded the chariot to stop; and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him Father Son Holy Spirit. what have malformation with homosexuealitet do we are as retarded prisoners in the spirit of Jesus given us life as we live because of him .. That she says Bible is not wrong .. But deformity is not honosexualitet. Eunuch did not go on operating without plunged his trip

  • Emery

    Being homosexual does not cause God to hate one, but homosexual ACTS are hated by God. Teaching falsehoods about God, Jesus, or God’s word makes one His enemy also. False religion is also a good way to become God’s enemy. But if this homosexual pastor is referring to the vast majority of Bible translations that exist today, he/she is correct, they’re NOT the inspired word of God. They’re changed from the original texts. Case in point, the Douhay Rheims (Catholic) Bible has MANY fictitious texts inserted into it, and has close to 100,000 falsely translated words. The KJV has well over 20,000 falsely translated words and spurious texts added to it as well. Most translations follow it. It is very close to the mostly pagan Bible that Constantine ordered to be assembled in 325. He changed congregation to church, stake to cross, spirit to ghost, Hades and Sheol and Gehenna to hell, and REMOVED the personal name of God in it’s more than 7,210 instances in which it appears in the original texts. God’s actual inspired word says that if one changes one word of it, that one is God’s enemy. It doesn’t seem to be a very good idea to be God’s enemy. Just my opinion.

    • Leonard

      And what Bible version do YOU recommend, Emery?

      • Emery

        You’ll have to find one for yourself Leonard. There do exist two or three out of the many dozens of them that exist, that are pretty close to accurate, like Young’s, or the Orthodox Jewish Bible. If a Bible doesn’t have God’s personal name, if it uses cross and hell and ghost, it’s deceptivly translated and should not be used.

    • Ole Ingvar

      [The KJV has well over 20,000 falsely translated words and spurious texts added to it as well]
      Proofs in studio, please.

      • Emery

        Ole;
        There is no way I am going to spend hundreds of hours posting the errors, and the original texts side by side, and then translating those texts into English, to prove to you the KJV Bible is erroneous. You must do that for yourself. I did it over the course of 45 years with two dozen different translations, and all are not accurate as compared to the original texts. They are VERY misleading. Just because you used a KJV in school, and EVERYONE thinks it’s accurate, doesn’t make it so. “Satan is misleading the entire inhabited Earth”, and “he is angry, knowing he has a short time”. Try Young’s or the OJB versions, as they are much closer to accurate than almost all other translations that exist.

  • Jesus freak

    You died for sinners, just like me
    A grateful leper at your feet..

    Mark Hall says it best.. Pray just pray

  • blkequus

    so glad I am Catholic

    • Ole Ingvar

      Better being glad,what you are Christian, I think.

  • Eddie Santana

    Tony,

    [1. If biblical interpretation is accepted by faith then how do you know that this person is not showing faith in his/her way?]
    Good question. First of all, you have two faiths involved here; the faith of the writer of the Bible, and the faith of the reader. The Lord entrusts his Word to a faithful vessel that will help God spread his message to the world. Our faith kicks in that we believe that God is fully able to convey that message without corruption by the vessel. I mean, don’t you think God is big enough to make sure his Word the Bible is not corrupted? (A side note, the Bible has been canonized by scholars and authorities that may not agree on all, but agreed on what is considered valid scripture. The Catholic authorities clash with these authorities in that the Apocrypha should be added as well.) So if you doubt the Bible’s veracity, you’re doubting a. God’s ability to convey his Word; and b. many educated people that agreed on what God is trying to say to his people.

    [2. How do you explain the myriad of denominations out there? How do you know that it truly is the “Spirit” that is leading you and not something else? Again we go back to the varying beliefs of denominations out there. Surely Our Lord did not intend such chaos.]
    You’re right. But understand, that the denominationalizing started back in St. Paul’s day, remember? When St. Paul was dismayed hearing people say, “Well I follow Paul,” “Well I follow Apollos,” “And I follow Peter!” The bottom line is, you have to believe SOMETHING, otherwise you’ll fall for anything. It’s better believing the wrong thing (which hopefully is not the case), than doubting everything. If you can’t have the confidence that God’s spirit is leading you into all truth, as Jesus said, then I would say one’s conversion is suspect. In other words, if we can’t believe the right thing, then it’s probably us, because we should know enough to know the difference between right theology and what’s not. If we don’t, it’s not because it’s ambiguous, but because we have to know the Bible better.

    [3. I do believe that we will be held accountable for our relationship with the Lord. Let me ask you this, if one is “saved” then what kind of relationship should they have with the Lord? How can one really know if they are having the right relationship with the Lord? If they are not and they claim to be saved then they may well not be saved.]
    I don’t know if the Pope encourages the reading of scripture for one’s self, but the Bible has plenty of guidance on the relationship one should have with the Lord. For example, in I John 1:9 the Bible says to confess our sins, and he is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. In Romans 8:16 the Bible tells us that we have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but we have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God. Hebrews 4:16 tells us to come boldly to the thrown of grace where we find mercy and help; In I Timothy 4:6 we find God telling us godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. Finally, God tells us in Galatians 5:22 that if we are led by His Spirit, we will exhibit love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law, which means that we are living like God wants us to live if these characteristics are flowing out of our lives. And there are many many other passages to show how we should live. But if we doubt the Bible, then all we really have to go on in living the Christian life is whats right in our own eyes, or what we’re guessing it.

    [4. Yes, The Lord Jesus is my Lord and my Savior and He constantly leads me into fellowship with Him through the Sacraments(especially the Eucharist and Reconciliation), Scripture reading, praying, and activity within the Church.]
    With number 4. you just answered your own question about living the Christian life, by scripture reading, praying, and fellowship. So what part of that and living the Christian life are you not sure about? It sounds like you have a head knowledge, but it’s not sinking into your heart and spirit. Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to be courteous and fully respond.

    • Tony

      Eddie Santana wrote,

      “I mean, don’t you think God is big enough to make sure his Word the Bible is not corrupted?”

      Yes, that is why He set up a teaching Church. Remember, Our Lord said, “Go forth and teach all nations baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” That was, as you know, The Great Commission. Now, He did not say to go forth and compile a collection of Books and put these Books into one volume. This was an idea, inspired by the Holy Spirit, of the Church. If the Holy Spirit entrusted the Church and led the Church with this delicate task then would not the same Holy Spirit preserve the same Church with preserving the correct translation of those Books?

      “The Catholic authorities clash with these authorities in that the Apocrypha should be added as well.)”

      But the Dueterocanon was officially recognized as being part of Scripture when the Bible was put together in 393.

      “So if you doubt the Bible’s veracity, you’re doubting a. God’s ability to convey his Word; and b. many educated people that agreed on what God is trying to say to his people.”

      I doubt neither.

      “In other words, if we can’t believe the right thing, then it’s probably us, because we should know enough to know the difference between right theology and what’s not. If we don’t, it’s not because it’s ambiguous, but because we have to know the Bible better.”

      But how do you know what the right thing is whenever people have a myriad of different ways of interpreting Scripture? One person may look at a particular verse and it says this while another person may look at the same verse and be at polar opposites of what person A believes. I just cannot accept the concept that Christ Jesus, being God, would have miscalculated on this vital issue.

      “I don’t know if the Pope encourages the reading of scripture for one’s self”

      Yes, he does. In fact, we are always encouraged to read, study, and pray the Scripture. As one of our great Biblical scholars, St. Jerome, stated, “Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ.”

      “the Bible has plenty of guidance on the relationship one should have with the Lord. For example, in I John 1:9 the Bible says to confess our sins, and he is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. In Romans 8:16 the Bible tells us that we have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but we have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God. Hebrews 4:16 tells us to come boldly to the thrown of grace where we find mercy and help; In I Timothy 4:6 we find God telling us godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. Finally, God tells us in Galatians 5:22 that if we are led by His Spirit, we will exhibit love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law, which means that we are living like God wants us to live if these characteristics are flowing out of our lives. And there are many many other passages to show how we should live. But if we doubt the Bible, then all we really have to go on in living the Christian life is whats right in our own eyes, or what we’re guessing it.”

      That is all Catholic teaching.

      “With number 4. you just answered your own question about living the Christian life, by scripture reading, praying, and fellowship. So what part of that and living the Christian life are you not sure about?”

      From my own walk with Our Lord, nothing. He feeds me with His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity in the Eucharist, forgives me of my sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and He gives me solace through the Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Catholic Church.

      • Ron

        Tony Quote:From my own walk with Our Lord, nothing. He feeds me with His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity in the Eucharist, forgives me of my sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and He gives me solace through the Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Catholic Church.End Quote

        There is nothing in that Eucharist…. ( although I haven’t a clue what it is made of, but I know it is not Jesus Christ)

        1 Corinthians 11:23-26 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.

        • Ron wrote,

          “There is nothing in that Eucharist…. ( although I haven’t a clue what it is made of, but I know it is not Jesus Christ)”

          So did Our Lord lie when He taught this in John 6?

          “1 Corinthians 11:23-26 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.”

          This is entirely Catholic belief and, if you read alittle further, it states that if you “eat and drink unworthily then you eat and drink your own judgement.” Now, if it is a symbol, then would you not find it odd that one can be sent to hell over a symbol? These verses only make sense if the Apostle Paul literally believed that the Eucharist was the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ.

  • David

    This tranny is really confused, or just plain lying and making a buck off of dumb so-called ‘Christans’ and ‘Baptists.’ He/she says an angel told him the Bible is wrong or he/she is reading it wrong. So then what about 1 Timothy 3? That’s pretty clear, that a Pastor/Bishop is to be the HUSBAND of one WIFE, not the WIFE of a WIFE. Since God is not the author of CONFUSION (1 Cor. 14:33), which is pretty clear, this cannot be of God. In the OT, the Bible calls perverted sexual sin CONFUSION, so God is not the author of gender confusion; and now will Dan/Ally divorce his/her wife, or will Dan/Ally reamain married to his/her wife, and live as a LESBIAN? These people and their supporters are completely “nuts.”

  • Isa 5:20
    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    This world is headed down the Wrong path

  • Martin

    There are a lot of judgemental people on here. The bible says (in all its translations) that we are to love people. Yes the transgender preacher is wrong but condemnation when he already stands condemned is wrong. We should pray for him that the Holy Spirit will reveal truth to him and he will get saved. I go to a pentecostal church and it believes what the bible teaches. But again “doctrinally correct” means what?
    I’m sick of seeing Christians argue about stuff in he world. Why do we expect unregenerate people to be any different to what Romans 1 talks about. Pray for people. Care and love them. I use the NIV , NLT, NASB, NKJV and I know it’s Gods word as much as the KJV. Stop being petty and live by 1 John 2:6

    • The Bible does not teach “tolerance”, it teaches repentance. And the NIV, the NLT, and all the others are not the Bible. They care corrupt translations.

      • Eddie Santana

        I agree with you, Leigh. You’re gorgeous. (I could be a bit biased). lol

    • Emery

      Martin;
      Yes, that is absolutely true. If this transgender minister wants to mutilate his/her body, perform homosexual acts, and lie to people, it’s her/his choice. God gave us freedom to choose to be destroyed or not. Not doing the entire will of God, all day, every day, no exceptions, is the only way to be saved and to remain in God’s love. Doing otherwise means permenant destruction. It’s not up to anyone else to do anything other than counsel him/her. We are not to revile this person, hate them, or anything else. It’s none of our business, according to God’s word, the Bible.

      • robin

        Let’s be honest here Emery. Nobody can do the entire will of God all day, every day, no exceptions. We can’t even follow the ten commandments. That’s WHY God gave Moses the law, that’s WHY Jesus came, because we CANNOT do what needs to be done to measure up to the standard of a pure and holy God- that’s why Jesus came and DIED in your place and mine.
        You’re going to work your way to heaven? The Bible tells us that without the SHEDDING OF BLOOD there is no remission. Your good works (even if you do them until the cows come home) cannot wash away your sin.
        The penalty for sin is DEATH.
        God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to REPENTANCE. While we were YET SINNERS, Christ DIED for us.
        If you were to be charged with some heinous crime, it would be no good going to court and telling the judge that you are going to live a perfect and blameless life from now on (even if you could), you are still GUILTY and someone must pay the penalty for your sin.
        You cannot.
        Your church is lying to you. The devil is lying to you. You believe in a Jesus that is the figment of someone’s imagination and has no power to save you. Turn to the REAL Jesus, who wasn’t an angel, he was God in the flesh. Deny him at your own peril.

        • Emery

          Robin;
          Your claim that God lied, and that no one will ever be saved is not correct. You claim that no one “can” do the entire will of God all day, every day, no exceptions. Not true again. God commanded us to do exactly that, and so did His only begotten son, Jesus. Jesus said that the one who does the will of God will be saved. He also said that the one who endures till the end (does the will of God till the end) is the one who will be saved. I don’t think either one lied. In fact I KNOW neither one lied, because they cannot lie. God’s word clearly states that fact. Jesus died so that we MIGHT have a chance at righteousness, forgiveness for sins. Not that it is an AUTOMATIC thing, because it’s clearly not. We must act to receive that forgiveness. We must obey God’s commands, ALL OF THEM. It says that God desires all to ATTAIN to repentance. We must do the attaining. It’s NOT a gift. We must WORK toward that goal by obeying God’s commands, by doing His will. Doing the entire will of God does NOT mean one is perfect and blameless either. That’s your own fabrication there, not God’s. Man is imperfect, and will be until after the end of judgement day, when Satan is finally permanently destroyed, and only the RIGHTEOUS will inhabit the Earth.

          You said my “church” is lying to me. That is quite impossible, because I have no “church” or religion of man. I am a minister of God, and I am a member of a society of ministers. NOT of any church or organized religion. You’re being lied to about us it seems, or you never did your own first hand research. Either way, you’re dead wrong. And I stress the “dead” part, because the penalty for sin is death. NOT death AND anything else, like the fictitious “hell” found only in Bibles like the KJV. The word never appears in the original ancient texts from which we translate our Bibles for the past millennia. And yes, God said Jesus is the head of all the angels. The Archangel. I again stress that God does NOT lie Robin. Yet you continue to claim He does for some reason that only you can know. Must be your religion that teaches it. God said all religions are false religion. Jesus said they’re all works of the flesh. Revelation says they’re all the greatest part of Babylon the Great of the end times. The times of which we are just about to the end of right now. Maybe it’s a good time to actually STUDY the scriptures, one by one, in total. cover to cover. And then do it again, and again, and again, until you understand what they actually say, rather than what you’re TOLD they say.

          • robin

            Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
            It’s that simple. You can’t earn it, you can’t buy it, you will never be worthy of it or ever attain it- that’s why the Bible calls it a GIFT.

          • robin

            An angel has the name above EVERY name, the ONLY name under heaven, given among men, whereby we must be saved? IS that what you contend? An angel is THE way, THE truth and THE life and no man cometh to the Father but by an angel? An angel is the resurrection and the life? Do you even really THINK about what come out of your mouth?

            I’m sorry, but scripture says that salvation IS a gift.

            Ephesians 2

            8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

            9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

            NOT OF WORKS Emery. You are working yourself into the lake of fire with your self righteousness.
            Without the SHEDDING OF BLOOD there is no remission. You try to earn or attain the gift, but reject the giver, Jesus Christ, the righteous. He’s not an angel, he is God incarnate. The Great Creator of the Universe made flesh, his blood shed on Calvary for your sin.

          • robin

            Shame on you Emery. Mis-representing what someone else says (and mis-representing what GOD has said in scripture, which is MUCH more serious) does no good for your cause. I never claimed that God lied, nor would God EVER lie, since he is the truth, neither did I ever claim that no-one will ever be saved. You cannot save yourself Emery. no matter how much “good” you do. Jesus died so that we CAN be saved, not might be saved. Scripture does not say, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you MIGHT be saved, it says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you SHALL be saved- because it is HE that does the saving. You CANNOT obey ALL God’s commands Emery. If you could, Jesus death would have been unnecessary.
            Forget Hell Emery, deal with the LAKE OF FIRE (where death and Hell will be cast, along with whosoever is not found written in the book of life). Explain away the lake of fire.
            Nowhere in scripture does it claim such a fiction- that Jesus is an angel. Jesus is God in the flesh. He is the great I AM, a claim for which the Jews wanted to stone him. Even the Jews were clear about what he was claiming. You need to repent of your false gospel and your false Jesus because he cannot save you.

          • Emery

            Robin;
            Neither have I misrepresented what another has said, or misrepresented any word of scripture. Shame on YOU for falsely claiming I have. It doesn’t make you look good, especially in God’s eyes. Yes, you DID intimate that God lied in your post. You directly contradicted His word.

            Robin, the “lake of fire” refers to the valley of the sons of Hin-Nom, where trash and dead animals, and dead executed criminals were burned to ash, by pouring sulphur (brimstone) constantly on the fires to keep them burning. It is a metaphor for “complete destruction”, or rather, God removing you from His memory so as to never resurrect you. Don’t you know these extremely BASIC scriptural teachings and principles? Your not knowing these things shows that you’ve never actually studied the scriptures. Reading them is NOT studying them Robin. Claiming to know what they say, when you actually have no idea about it, is extremely dishonest and hypocritical.

            Your last claim that the inspired word of God, and the only begotten son of God, Jesus, are false, is very offensive both to me, and God, and God’s son. Hope you’re proud of yourself Robin. The penalty for that, which is a sin, is death. NOT death AND anything else, much less eternal torture in a non-existent hell of fire and torture. It says the penalty is DEATH. PERIOD. Nothing more, just death, permanently, known as the “second death”, and Gehenna, and the “lake of fire”. They’re METAPHORS. Figures of speech. Not literal lakes of fire, dying twice, or lakes of fire that burn. Sheesh! It’s like explaining things to three year old children Robin.

        • Ron

          Robin

          Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
          It’s that simple. You can’t earn it, you can’t buy it, you will never be worthy of it or ever attain it- that’s why the Bible calls it a GIFT.

          You are so very right and just to let you know Emery is a Jehovah’s Witness.

          God Bless You Robin!

          • robin

            I know what he is. I have heard all this sort of thing before. I have relations who are JWs, I however am a JESUS witness 🙂
            The name above EVERY NAME the ONLY name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved! Self righteousness is such a curse. Until a man truly understands his own sinful condition, he doesn’t understand his need for a Saviour, and if he doesn’t believe in Hell…well, what then is there to be saved FROM?

        • Ron

          Revelation 14:9-11 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be TORMENTED with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB: And the smoke of their TORMENT ascendeth up FOR EVER AND EVER: and THEY HAVE NO REST DAY OR NIGHT, WHO WORSHIP the beast and his image, and WHOSOEVER receiveth the mark of his name.
          I guess God wastes His time on Dead corpses that no longer have consciousness???? I don’t think so it says they are tormented and they are not in some garbage dump. I don’t God will have a garbage dump before His Throne to burn the Trash. The above cannot be twisted to say anything but what it says unless you are a Sea Lawyer.
          My how Scripture gets twisted to appease one’s conscience.

          God Bless You Robin!

          • Ron

            between don’t and God “I don’t God will have a garbage dump before His Throne to burn the Trash.” was supposed to be the word “Think” My bad.

  • Eddie Santana

    You folks that bad mouth Bible translations (other than the book of mormon, the Koran or the Watchtower) you’re no better than the people that say the Bible can’t be trusted at all. That’s too bad.

    • Emery

      Eddie;
      Most translations ARE inaccurately translated. Gross mistranslations contained in them. Changing ONE WORD makes one God’s enemy so the scripture says. Interpreting scripture belongs ONLY to God. We are NOT to interpret them. They stand on their own merit. One must compare one scripture to all others. If it seems to contradict any other scripture, your understanding of it is not correct. If it does not contradict any other scripture then you have discerned it’s meaning. I’ve done this to all scriptures cover to cover using many ancient scrolls to determine exactly what a specific scripture says. Hard and long work, but well worth it. Most translations exist to proffer the beliefs of the religion of the translator, not to reflect exactly what God originaly said. God said we are to take in ACCURATE knowledge of Him and His word, daily, to remain in His love. He told us to “flee” from religions, as He said they are all false religion, and Jesus said they are all works of the flesh.

      The Book of Mormon was not inspired by God. The Quran was written by a murderous raping war lord who was insane from syphillus that had infected his brain, and it certainly was not inspired by God. The Watchtower is a society of ordained ministers, and a magazine.

      • robin

        The question isn’t so much what Bible version they have, but whether they truly know the Author. Do you truly have a living, abiding, personal relationship with the Creator of Heaven and earth? Jesus said HIS sheep hear HIS voice and follow HIM. Do you know the Good Shepherd? Are you truly one of HIS sheep?

        • Emery

          Robin;
          Of all the “questions” you have asked me, this is the strangest one yet. How could I be God’s ordained minister, and servant, and witness if I did not have a close relationship with Him? He said if we draw close to Him, He will draw close to us. How could I imitate God, as He commands us to do, and how could I imitate Jesus, as he commands us to do, if I had no relationship with either of them? Do you actually know anything contained in the inspired word of God? Or are you simply taking what your religion tells you it says? I believe it to be the latter.

          I have read many Bibles, and done so many hundreds of times, and I have STUDIED each word of the Bible, twice a year, for decades now. And I’m only just getting started so to speak. One can NEVER know everything about God, but we can try. So can you try. It might not be a bad idea to get started Robin. Based on your comments, you have a lot of work ahead of you if you ever want to know what God requires of us, in order for Him to provide us with salvation, through Jesus, when the time comes. That time is fast approaching, as we are just about to see the beginning of the tribulation, and then the final battle. THAT is when we are literally “saved”. Saved from the second death, which is known as Gehenna. Gehenna is a metaphorical reference to the valley of the sons of Hin-Nom, and was located adjacent to Jerusalem. After pagan worship was ended there, it was used as a constantly burning trash dump, where sulphur (brimstone) was constantly poured on the fires, to keep them burning. This was done to completely destroy whatever was placed there. That’s why it’s used metaphorically to reference the second death. Removal from God’s memory of whoever receives it. They will never be resurrected. All who are in God’s memory are to be resurrected after the final battle. To remain in God’s love and memory, we must do His will always. He commanded it. Jesus commanded it as well Robin.

          • robin

            You are self ordained, not God ordained. God doesn’t ordain false teachers and false prophets. A man who truly speaks by the spirit of GOD cannot contradict scripture shamelessly, as you do. I know what God requires of man- repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

            I’m sorry Emery, but your beliefs make no sense at all. If the dead know no more, and there is no eternal end in Hell and the lake of fire, then why bother preaching the false JW gospel, just leave the lost alone and they will die, be buried and know know more.

            Jesus lived and died and rose again to save people from…nothing? It’s just nonsense.
            Jesus said you MUST be born again. So why aren’t you born again Emery?
            No good preaching “the kingdom” if you cannot enter therein. Except a man be BORN AGAIN he CANNOT ENTER the kingdom of God.

            Put Gehenna and Hell aside for a moment and be brutally honest about how you are going to escape the LAKE OF fIRE without Jesus as your Saviour.

          • Emery

            Robin;
            One cannot be “self ordained”. Only God can ordain anyone as His minister and servant. And of course He doesn’t ordain false teachers or prophets, he judges them and gives them the second death. And I have not contradicted ANY scripture. What I am contradicting, if you want to term it that way, is what you religion teaches, and what falsely translated Bibles say. But I have NEVE contradicted the inspired word of God. You say my beliefs make no sense. They are the inspired word of God. They make PERFECT sense. You just don’t know the inspired word of God. Now God’s witnesses have no gospel, other than what God inspired to be written. The society, Jehovah’s Witnesses is not a religion, it’s a society of ministers. It’s not a church, it’s a society, and the Watchtower is simply a magazine. Why you claim Jesus died for nothing is beyone me. You insult him by saying that. You claim that I must be one of the 144,000, when only God can make that choice. It’s not up to us, it’s up to Him ONLY. He makes the invitation Robin. No one “enters the Kingdom of God” in heaven, except those whom He invites, by baptizing them with holy spirit, making them born again of spirit, after they’re baptized with water of course.

            The lake of fire refers to Gehenna, the metaphorical reference to the Valley of the sons of Hin-Nom, and literally means complete destruction, no resurrection. You really should study up on the scriptures, so you can understand these totally basic premises of God’s word. That’s baby food so to speak. Beginners learning. First grade. Come on. If you claim to speak God’s word, then LEARN IT and KNOW it first. Then, and only then, are you qualified to speak on the subject Robin. No one gives talks, or teaches any subject in college or any other school, until they KNOW THE SUBJECT MATTER. Yet you try to bypass that initial step, and jump right to pretending to know God’s word, and try to teach it, without ever actually studying and understanding it. That is the height of hypocrisy Robin.

            I have to shower and go teach, and then go to work. See ya!

          • Hell is a real, physical, actual place, with real flames. The demonic JW teaching that “Hell is the grave” not only flies in the face of the words of Jesus Himself, but is patently false. The “rich man” from Luke must have been a Jehovahs Witness, because he didn’t believe in a literal Hell either. So it must have come as quite the SHOCK when he died and experienced this:

            “And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24 (KJV)

          • Emery

            Geoffrey;
            In order for your claim to be correct, God would have to lie, and God CANNOT lie. Your claim that God’s servants on Earth are demonic would mean that God teaches people to serve His enemy, Satan, which of course is also impossible. No teaching of any minister that is a member in the society known as Jehovah’s Witnesses is anything other than 100% scriptural, as they serve and witness for God the Almighty, not Satan, as you claim. When God commanded “you are my witnesses” in Isaiah, He didn’t command “you are Satan’s witnesses”. That claim of yours is so absurd, as to not have words in English to describe it Geoffrey. Do you make a habit of claiming the impossible? You quote the KJV of the Bible. In the original 5,000 or so ancient texts from which the scriptures have been translated, and assembled into the Bible contain “hell” zero times, but in the KJV it appears 54 times. That means it was ADDED after God inspired His word to be written. The ancient texts have Gehenna 54 times, the KJV, zero times. The ancient texts have Hades 65 times, the KJV zero times. Ancient scrolls have Sheol 202 times, and KJV zero. This pretty much means that several occurrences of Hades, Gehenna, and Sheol have been REMOVED in the KJV Bible, and the ones not removed, were CHANGED to “hell”, which is gramatically incorrect in all three languages, and is quite dishonest on the part of King James the First, who commissioned the KJV’s creation. God’s word says to add to or take away from any scroll of prophecy makes one “God’s enemy”, so King James was God’s enemy, and so are all who use that translation. Facts are facts. God’s word doesn’t lie, neither does God. The ancient texts have 7,210 occurences of the tetragramaton for God’s personal name, YHVH. King James Version, 7 times. The NKJV has it zero times. The KJV also has texts ADDED to it that were not inspired by God. Doesn’t sound very accurate to me. God commanded all to take in ACCURATE knowledge of Him DAILY. One can not do that if one does not have access to an accurate copy of His inspired word, can he Geoffrey.

            No, hell is fiction, as it comes ONLY from the pagan religions of Babylon and Rome, as do most of the teachings of all sects of Christendom, such as the falsehood of an immortal soul, an afterlife, and many, many other teachings found in Christendom that come STRAIGHT OUT OF PAGANDOM. You follow those pagan teachings with all your might. Seems to me to be a sure fire way of committing suicide when the end of this world arrives Geoffrey. You’re right on track for that eventuality if you don’t come to your senses, and STUDY, STUDY, STUDY an ACCURATE copy of the inspired word of God, and ACT on it with all your might. God commanded us to “flee from her, unless you want to share in her plagues and punishments”, meaning Babylon the Great, whose largest portion is false religions. Any religion that is not EXACTLY, and ONLY what Jesus taught as the “one true faith” is false religion, and will be exterminated along with all her participants, in the final battle, if not in the tribulation leading up to it. Jesus said they are all “works of the flesh” and false religion, on several occasions, but you seem to ignore those scriptures. God’s word says ALL SCRIPTURE is inspired by God, so to ignore some of them is to disobey God. To disobey God is to sin, and the penalty for sin is death. NOT death and a fictitious hell, just death, exactly as God stated in His inspired word. But you seem to have overlooked that scripture also Geoffrey.

          • Jesus said Hell is a real place. He says it burns with UNQUENCHABLE FIRE….but hey, you just go on believing an apostate like Charles Taze Russell over the Lord of the Universe.

          • There is no hell are you really serious?

          • Emery

            Mary Burris;
            Yes, there is no “hellfire”. All of the references to fire in the scriptures refer to the “valley of the sons of Hin-Nom”.
            he word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohlʹ and its Greek equivalent haiʹdes, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek geʹen·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).
            In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world . . . is pictured as a place full of horrors, and is presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” (The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston, 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., p. 581) Early evidence of the fiery aspect of Christendom’s hell is found in the religion of ancient Egypt. (The Book of the Dead, New Hyde Park, N.Y., 1960, with introduction by E. A. Wallis Budge, pp. 144, 149, 151, 153, 161) Buddhism, which dates back to the 6th century B.C.E., in time came to feature both hot and cold hells. (The Encyclopedia Americana, 1977, Vol. 14, p. 68) Depictions of hell portrayed in Catholic churches in Italy have been traced to Etruscan roots.—La civiltà etrusca (Milan, 1979), Werner Keller, p. 389.
            But the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means “Slanderer”), the one whom Jesus Christ called “the father of the lie.”—John 8:44.
            contrast, the dead who will not be raised are described as being, not in Sheol, or Hades, but “in Gehenna.” (Matthew 5:30; 10:28; 23:33) Like Sheol and Hades, Gehenna is not a literal place.

            Gehenna, the valley of the sons of Hin-Nom was just outside the walls of Jerusalem, and was a trash dump. It was constantly burning, as sulphur (primstone) was poured on the fires to keep them burning. Thus the references to “lake of fire”. The KJV renders Gehenna, Hades, and Sheol as hell, when they are incorrectly translated. Hell, Hades, and Sheol ALL refer to “the comcmon grave of mankind”. Gehenna is a metaphorical reference to “total destruction”, NOT burning forever in torment.

            Were an actual hellfire to exist, it would require cooperation between God, and Satan, which is not possible. God would have to allow Satan to mislead people to sin, and then allow Satan to torture them forever in a fire. Since such a firey place doesn’t exist, and God and Satan don’t cooperate, the teaching becomes more rediculous.

  • Eddie Santana

    Emery, that’s Jehovah’s Witness doctrine…not Christian doctrine.

    • Emery

      Eddie;
      There exists no “Jehovah’s Witness doctrine”. All of the ordained ministers of the society believe ONLY exactly what is contained within the inspired word of God. It is scriptural doctrine. They have no doctrine outside of God’s word. They all KNOW God’s word, much better than anyone I’ve ever talked to. All of them constantly study the scriptures, comparing each one to all other scriptures, to gain a discernment of a particular scripture. One must do that in order to understand God’s word. If one scripture seems to contradict any other scripture, than an adjustment is made so that one’s understanding harmonizes with ALL of the scriptures. God said we are NOT to interpret scripture, as interpretation, He said, belongs ONLY to Him. We are to understand the scriptures for what they actually say, not guess at it by interpreting it. Their Bible is exactly accurate as compared to just over 5,000 existing ancient scrolls that exist today. God’s name has been restored also. Most Bibles have removed God’s name, when it appears some 7,210 times originally. The original texts contain no words like “hell, ghost, cross” and many other words that are commonly mistranslated in the KJV, NIV, ASV, DR, etc.

    • you know Emery I’m not go to waste my time or write a book on what I know is true. I already have the book I need and for you to respond in length that you have tells me you have to much time on your hands. I pray that God will open your eyes to see and your ears to hear and your heart to receive His TRUTH.

      • Emery

        Mary;
        Your haughty assumption that I have “too much time” on my hands is pretty stupid. If the book you have tells you that a hell of fire and torment exists, then you DON’T have the book you NEED. You have the book you WANT, and you don’t seem to want one that tells you the truth. Pray all you want, to no avail. God doesn’t listen to apostate unbelievers like you Mary. He won’t hear your prayers sadly. My “eyes and ears” have been open for quite some time. Longer than you’ve been alive. Try dumping the haughtiness, and take on some humility, and find an honest heart, and THEN approach God, and He MIGHT draw close to you. But He never will with your current attitude and set of false beliefs.

  • mike

    all you folks relying on a rapture to evacuate you away are under the strong delusion promised to those who teach and believe in a false gospel

    the gospel was preached to israel in the wilderness (heb 4:2) and they rejected his law, just as christianity does today

    Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
    Jer 6:17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
    Jer 6:18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them.
    Jer 6:19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.

  • allan Brewster

    Anyone that says that God Word is wrong is calling The Holy Spirit of God a liar and committing Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That also goes for anyone that adds to God’s Word or takes away from it.

    • Emery

      Allan;
      Yes, calling the inspired word of God wrong means death, however, most of the current translations in English have done exactly what you said about taking away or adding to God’s word. The producers of Bibles such as the KJV, DR, ASV, NIV, and so on, ARE guilty of adding to and taking away from God’s word. Anyone who uses such Bibles is in danger of a judgement of death, since they cannot know God’s word by using them.

      • Ole Ingvar

        {The producers of Bibles such as the KJV, DR, ASV, NIV, and so on, ARE guilty of adding to and taking away from God’s word.}
        I’m agree with only about those – DR, ASV, NIV. About KJV – proofs in studio, please.
        {Anyone who uses such Bibles is in danger of a judgement of death, since they cannot know God’s word by using them.}
        Then what we should do? Use NW translation, where whole verses are just erased? I can proof my words, are you ready for that?

        • Ron

          Brother Ole don’t argue with Emery ask about him from Skywatcher, Edwitness, Char, DC. It is a waste of time.
          Brother I know you are sealed with God’s Holy Spirit, don’t throw your pearls Brother.
          God Bless You Brother Ole!

          • Emery

            Ron;
            In Galations 5:19-21 it tells us not to revile (say bad things about another) others. It says if one does that, or anything else mentioned in those three scriptures, one will not inherit the Kingdom of God. You have reviled me in the above post, and in several other posts, just as Skywatcher, Edwitness, Char, and DC have done. Sinning requires that you make amends, pray for forgiveness in Jesus’ name, and repent of the sin (telling God you won’t do it again).

          • Ole Ingvar

            Brother Ron, I’m an apologist and called to preach Gospel of Truth. My “speciality” is Muslims, but JW and other lost people are need to be guided too. I just wanna show him, what his arguments are vain and void.

          • Ron

            Emery which Jesus am I to pray to??????????

            There be many Jesus’s now a days, But only one True Jesus called Jesus _____ ( hint it’s five Letters)

            or will The full Name Sear Your conscience.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            If you’re praying to Jesus, then I can’t help you. Jesus himself said that we are to render sacred service only to God the Almighty. Not Jesus, the only begotten SON of God. Praying to Jesus is sinning against the spirit of God. It seems that you believe in the pagan belief of a trinity of Gods, as did all the pagans of Babylon. That was added to Christendom after the fourth century by Athanasius, and it’s called the Athanasian Creed, and is not scriptural. It’s teachings of MEN, not of GOD the Almighty.

          • Ron

            Quote Emery: Sinning requires that you make amends, pray for forgiveness in Jesus’ name, and repent of the sin (telling God you won’t do it again): End Quote Emery

            Quote Ron: Emery which Jesus am I to pray to??????????

            There be many Jesus’s now a days, But only one True Jesus called Jesus _____ ( hint it’s five Letters)

            or will The full Name Sear Your conscience.:End Quote Ron

            Quote Emery:If you’re praying to Jesus, then I can’t help you. Jesus himself said that we are to render sacred service only to God the Almighty. Not Jesus, the only begotten SON of God. Praying to Jesus is sinning against the spirit of God. It seems that you believe in the pagan belief of a trinity of Gods, as did all the pagans of Babylon. That was added to Christendom after the fourth century by Athanasius, and it’s called the Athanasian Creed, and is not scriptural. It’s teachings of MEN, not of GOD the Almighty.:End Quote Emery

            Gotcha Your mind is seared like a hot Iron you can’t even write Jesus Christ can you!

          • dc

            Ron, I have not engaged in conversation with Emery, b/c it is fruitless. (I’m not talking behind his back to be catty; I just don’t want a lecture of my own.)Why do you keep doing it when you warned Ole not to? C’mon, friend, you know it’s just going to frustrate. I know you care and want him to be saved, but he’ll have to come to the truth on his own. After all he has 45 years of study, as we’ve been told time and again. He’s probably come across our beliefs time and again. Pray that the Holy Spirit will convict him. The dueling of bibles is just going in circles (mixing my metaphors much?)Let Em believe what he wants and not let him get a foothold by letting him give sermons that may cause others to start to doubt. Use your gifts where it will do good. That way the Word gets out for all to see without a counterargument that may hurt baby Christians. Keep your head up, bro.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            You behave quite childishly for some reason. Are you very young? That’s the impression you give. Asking if I can type Jesus’ title, messiah, or if you prefer, Christ, Christos, The Word, the lamb, or any of the other names by which he is called. Christ, messiah, Christos all mean the same thing, and are titles, not names. His Earthly name was Jesus. What is your point that you are failing to make here anyway?

        • Ron

          Brother Ole in regards to your recent comment below well good for you I mean it seriously, but I don’t know if there ever will be reasoning. God Bless You!

          • Ron

            Thanks for the reminder DC, you are so right. I’ll explain privately.

          • Ole Ingvar

            OK, my spiritual family, seems,what it does really matter, if so many ppl told be to leave him. And even he ignores my messages, so let it be so. Have a blessed day, God’s folk!

  • Eddie santana

    Chel, I can’t believe you went there, making excuses for being single, really? You can use any reason, but the possibility of hooking up with a transgender to avoid a relationship? I can’t believe it.

  • J.W.

    Father forgive him, for he knows not what he’s doing. The Bible is the infallible WORD OF GOD. It is the only standard that we as God’s people have to live by. Heaven and earth WILL pass away, but THE WORD OF THE LORD, will NEVER pass away(Matt 24:35). To say that God sent a messenger to contradict this is blasphemous. My prayer is that his “ministry” will not prosper, and that God would intervene and rescue the vulnerable souls he may lead astray with his own broken and confused life, and doctrine.

  • Richard

    Oh ye wicked and perverse generations, that pervert the ways of God! He does not make mistakes, born as a male then your a male! Born as a female then your female! if you feel like your a horse does it make you a horse? Oh how Satan twists the minds of Gods children.

    • Ron

      And Sadly Richard, Satan’s circus grows larger every day and perverted even more with each passing second.

  • Daniel “Allyson” Robinson, you clearly are wrong and that spirit that told you what you seemingly heard was an unholy spirit and NOT the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit would NEVER cause us to question the bible as infallible! I doubt that you even have the Holy Spirit living within you because you clearly can’t tell the difference between the Holy Spirit and another spirit! It is my prayer and hope that you will find deliverance from Christ and that you will accept and embrace God’s will and plan for your life and that other Baptists and other born again Christians won’t fall for this lie that you have believed and won’t be deceived by you and the spirit(s) that obviously deceived you! “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
    ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    http://bible.com/1/1jn.4.1.kjv

  • CHAR

    Grace, I enjoy watching Charles Lawson also on youtube. He’s from the good old preachers that don’t mince words. Thank the Lord for him cuz there aren’t too many like him anymore.

  • Timov

    Ed. Note: “It is collapsing to become the Laodicean mess that Jesus said it would be in the last days before the Rapture.”

    Too bad there is no such thing as the Rapture. ‘Tis but an enemy-inspired invention to deceive the elect into thinking they won’t have to “endure to the end” — and will be the cause of the great falling away during the final persecutions before Christ returns. Many Pastors are going to be hammered at the BEMA for teaching this false doctrine.

    As to the thing that thinks an “Angel of Reason” spoke to it: Yeah, an angel spoke all right — but it wasn’t one sent from God.

    • Eddie Santana

      Timov, regardless of whether you think there’s a rapture or not, Jesus calls us to live like He’ll be back any second. Whatever you call that rapture, or Christ’s return, if you’re not living like Christ will be back any minute, then you might get a big surprise when Jesus does finally return and call his church to Him. Oh but wait…once saved always saved, so you can live like you want after you’re saved (pray the prayer of faith, right??? We’ll see.

      • Emery

        Matthew 10:22 And you will be hated by all people on account of my name, but the one who has endured to the end will be saved

        This indicates that if one ENDURES till the end, that one will be saved. So once saved always saved is a false teaching of false religions. Christendom is actually a counterfeit copy of what Jesus taught. HE taught “the one true faith” and it was NO church or organized religion. It was faith that God exists, that He is the ONLY true God, and that He sent His only begotten son, Jesus, to sacrifice himself so that we may have a chance to be forgiven for our sins, if we do what is required for that forgiveness. We are to take in ACCURATE knowledge from God’s word daily, learn what the entire will of God is, and do that will ALWAYS, all day, every day, every situation, and pray constantly to God the Almighty. We are to be no part of the world as Jesus repeatedly taught, and to have nothing to do with the world’s organized religions. Jesus said he hated a sect many times, and that religions were false religion, works of the flesh, and Babylon the Great’s largest part. He said “flee from her” in fact. The RCC was the first of the false sects of Christendom, created in 325 a.d., and all other sects in one way or another follow it’s lead. It is filled with things pagan, and filled with non-scriptural teachings.

  • Eddie

    I went through and read most of the replies. I’m a Bible student and pastor who has never studied at a seminary. If this has already been mentioned, forgive me. I know the conversation has gotten off on Bible translations and I will just say this-I preach/teach from the KJV but in my studies I sometimes look at other translations and look up the meaning in the Greek/Hebrew of many of the words. But there are SOME translations that I will not look at for anything. But I really want to mention this about the rapture. I believe in the Pre-Tribulation rapture of the church. There are many reasons why that time/space does not permit to go into. But one of the main reasons I believe it is, the Great Tribulation was never meant for the church, but for the nation of Israel due to their persistent disobedience/rebellion to the Lord, and in particular to their rejection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, for years many have believed in Replacement Theology which in its simplest definition (as I understand it) just says that the Church has taken Israel’s place and all the prophecies of the OT now fall upon the Church instead of Israel. And yet, I find no Scriptural evidence for this. So…to say then that the Church will have to go through the Great Tribulation is to not understand what that Tribulation is for-the salvation of God’s people, Israel.

    • Emery

      Eddie;
      The nation of Israel had their “tribulation” in 607 b.c. when Jerusalem was totally destroyed, and two million were killed. The tribulation we are about to experience is not that one so long ago. It will begin with the destruction of Christendom, by the U.N. the eighth great world power). Christendom is not true religion, and is actually, according to the Bible’s description of Christians, NOT Christian at all, but a false copy of the One true Faith that Jesus taught. He did not start a church or an organized religion, but faith in God and in Jesus and their sacrifice on our behalf.

      The KJV, however, has over 20,000 deliberate falsely translated words, added spurious texts, and is quite misleading. It bears little resemblance to the original scrolls from which God’s inspired word is translated.

    • Ron

      Ignore Emery Brother Eddie and you are correct on all you have said!
      God Bless You Brother Eddie, keep your pearls when it comes to those who want to argue your doctrine!

      • Emery

        Ron;
        What your comment proves, is that you are part of Christendom’s many sects/denominations, and not Christian. A Christian, a real Christian as the Bible describes, does not revile anyone, and behaves as Jesus taught us to behave. Galations 5:19-21 says it best. Our job is not to revile anyone, but to preach the Kingdom message. We aren’t to tell anyone what to do or not to do. It’s none of our business. And it’s none of YOUR business either, even though you’re not Christian. Christendom teaches many things, and most are not scriptural, but are the teachings of men. We are not to follow men, but we are to follow God instead. We are to adhere to the teachings from God, that Jesus taught while on Earth. We are to remain no part of the world, including the religions of the world, politics, war, the things the world loves like riches, entertainment, greed, and so on. We are to live in the world as alien residents, as Jesus, and his apostles did. You show that you don’t agree with Jesus’ teachings with your comments. You may benefit from re-reading the entire Bible again and again. I’ve done it several times a year for 45 years. I’ve studied each scripture comparing it to each other scripture to gain it’s meaning. If a scripture seems to conflict with another scripture, what I think it means must be adjusted so that it does not seem to contradict any other one. I suggest the same for you.

        • Ole Ingvar

          Sir, please, quote, where ppl are revile you? I don’t remember any bad word in your side. Just Scriptures.

          • Emery

            Ole;
            Telling others to ignore a longtime minister of God to be ignored, is reviling. Calling me a false prophet is reviling. And the many other unchristian comments as well are reviling. These folks are not Christian, they only pretend to be. They don’t fit the description of a Christian that is found in God’s word, the Bible. They don’t believe the things that are found there, and they don’t apply the things found there. That’s another conversation altogether though. Yes, people who know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about God’s Earthly witnesses revile and hate them, not knowing why, just that their religion tells them to do so. No one else spends their entire life doing the entire will of God, all day, every day, without exception. No other group of people spend every minute of their time not working to exist, in preaching the Kingdom Message all over the world. No other group of people on Earth teach the scriptures to anyone who wants it, providing Bibles and other materials free, all over the planet. No other group of people remains “no part of the world” as Jesus commanded. Since we all are ministers who do exactly these things, and no “religion” does it, they hate us. We threaten their existence. “Religions” are money making machines, and are not honest in their teachings and beliefs and practices. They all have elements of pagandom in them. We are not a religion and have NOTHING to do with anything pagan. Many false charges are brought against us constantly, and ALL are proven false, always. Religions engage in telling their members to kill one another in war, and they even bless them before doing so. That’s why Revelation calls them the whore of Babylon. They fornicate with governments. The Vatican actually has dominion over people and territories. They’re the very first religion of Christendom, and are mostly pagan. All other religions of Christendom follow their lead to one degree or another.

            I hope this answers your question Ole.

        • Ron

          Yeah with a modified JW bible from the watchtower yes we can trust that can’t we Emery. You are described quite well in the Bible.
          Your Group of people were constantly bugging my dad on His Death bed to see which one of your religion could reel him in and thank goodness my mom had the sense enough to say she had had enough of your people stressing my poor dad out about God.
          That was before I moved back home and could tell him the Truth concerning Salvation. As far as real Christian they will not allow themselves to be associated with False Doctrine and those that promote it should be rebuked.
          Many many people are going to Hell because of false doctrine.

          This Scripture applies to any false doctrine to does not bring people into Christs Sheep Fold

          Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            People said the SAME THING about the KJV when it was printed in the 1600’s. No difference with you today. The NWT “modifications”, if you can call it that, are putting God’s name back in it, putting it in modern English, and correcting the 20,000 translation errors found in Bibles like the KJV. They basically say the exact same thing. You have no first hand knowledge at all, and speak like a scholar on the subject. Hypocritical in my book, and many others as well. You’re not being honest. You’re taking other people’s word for what you claim and not seeing for yourself if what you think, is actually accurate. Quite dishonest.

        • Ole Ingvar

          Emery, that’s not a reviling. That’s just an arguments, what you can’t reply firm. It’s like a dialogue with Muslims – when you quoting Quran or hadith to them, and they can’t object, they told me,what I insulting Islam and reviling ‘holy prophet’. Same stuff here.
          Even Jesus called pharisees “sons of vipers” and “painted coffins”…was it reviling or just facts?

      • Eddie

        Thanks, Ron! I’ve been preaching long enough that my skin has gotten tougher and my heart softer.

  • CHAR

    Hello Ole, if you look at past blogs where Emery’s name is, you will see that Skywatcher, DC and Ed spent much time on Emery, but to no avail. Sometimes, as Ron says, you just have to dust your feet off and go on. You will be wasting your time answering Emery’s comments. He is obviously JW. You will be going round and round with him til you get frustrated so dust your feet off and go on. He just wants to argue and dispute with you, so we are just warning you that you will be throwing pearls before swine. God Bless you in your ministry!

    • Emery

      Char;
      The people you mentioned in your above post were considerably less than Christian in their behavior, and considerably less than nice toward me. They were basically “reviling” me, which is a sin and accordeing to Galations 5:19-21 keeps one from inheriting the Kingdom of the Heavens. You are doing the same thing, not acting in a Christian way, since what I say to another that is not you, is none of your business. God’s word tells us to mind our own business. You are preventing God’s word from reaching others in what you’re doing. You don’t know that your beliefs are correct. Neither do the ones you mentioned. You believe they are, but you don’t KNOW. I’ve spent a lifetime ensuring a completely accurate understanding of each word in the scriptures. I do it still, and I teach others. My job is to make disciples of Christ, as is every Christian’s job. You folks seek to prevent that work from being accomplished, as did Israel and Rome in Jesus’ day. Nothing changes. You oppose the spread of the Kingdom message just as the Sanhedrin sought to do. Just as the Pharisees, scribes, and Sadducees did. You would have fit in quite well with them back then.

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  • Tommyboy

    Yeaaah…About that “Angel of Reason”….Remember the Serpent in the Garden? Hmmmmm, I would have to call Shenanigans and say that was a Demon (Fallen Angel) NOT and Angel of God.

  • CHAR

    Yeah okay, Emery, I’m not going to go 10 rounds with you and waste my time and yours because you don’t listen to any of us on this website. It makes me wonder why DO YOU waste your time on this website? It’s not a JW website, it’s a born again Christ follower website, that reads the KJV and if you don’t, then why don’t you go elsewhere with your own kind instead of popping up here every now and then to get another unsuspecting Christian to waste their time on your drivel. And, just for the record, this is a public website, not private, so I’m not butting in to your business on here. If it was on YOUR private email, then I would be. Take care, Emery. The Christians on this website have prayed for you to see the error of your ways, but you are too stiff necked to even consider that we could be right about our beliefs. PS. This is my very LAST comment to you, so whatever you say in your next comment to me (the same drivel), I will NOT respond. My shoes sure are getting clean these days. Not a speck of dust on them!

    • Ron

      I am sorry Char for my actions I will e-mail later and thank you for all the info.

    • Emery

      Char;
      You ask why do I waste my time on this website. I don’t. When I dedicated the rest of my life to Jehovah and became His servant when I was ordained, my job then became leading people to Him and teaching people what the Bible REALLY teaches, rather than what religions claim it teaches. So far, I have been able to save the lives of 6 people on various blogs, out of thousands I have conversed with. I realize that this is a “born again” web site, but only the annointed 144,000 adopted sons of God are annointed with God’s spirit, and no one else, ever. We all have the Christ as our head, and he directs the remnant of the annointed with whom we work as fellow workers. No, we don’t use the KJV any more since we produced a translation that is actually 100% completely accurate as compared to the original 5,000 or so ancient texts available to all of us today. The KJV is far from accurate when so compared. Why don’t I go elsewhere where “my own kind” is? That is one of the most unchristian questions I have ever been asked. Why would I need to save those who already have hope of salvation? That’s rediculous on the face of it Char. You folks believe you’ve already been “saved”, and you believe once saved always saved. No one is yet saved, since the end has not come yet. And God’s word says that the one who endures to the end, is the one who is saved. No end yet that I’ve seen. And there are no “errors of my ways” Char. The error is with anyone who doesn’t know what God’s word says, and relies solely on their Christendom religion to hand feed it to them. Hope that answers your question somewhat.

      • Robin

        I hate to tell you this, but it was Jesus who said, you MUST be BORN AGAIN. Except a man be BORN AGAIN he CANNOT ENTER the kingdom of God….and the name above EVERY name, the only name under heaven, given among men whereby you must be saved….is JESUS.
        Not only that, Jesus promised that he gives HIS sheep eternal life and they shall NEVER PERISH. All of that and mor eis in the gospel of John.
        Jesus was God in the flesh. God became man, the Great Creator became my Saviour, and died on the cross in my place, for my sin, because without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.

        We CAN know that we are saved. I AM saved, now and for evermore. Jesus saved me and made me his own. Stop trusting in a make believe Jesus and repent and bow yourself before the REAL Jesus, the only source of salvation!

        • Emery

          Robin;
          Hating to speak the words of God seems to be a sin. Why would you hate to do that, even though you don’t understand it. It makes no difference in that regard.

          Anyway, Yes, Jesus said that, but he was speaking to those who would co-rule with him in heaven. The holy spirit annointed. The only ones to go to heaven. One must be born again of water AND of God’s spirit to enter heaven. Only then can they be transformed into spirit beings, such as angels, and go there. We have no immortal soul, so that’s the only way it is done by God.

          You speak of an imaginary Jesus. Sorry Robin, I don’t know any imaginary Jesus. If you do, I suggest you keep clear of him. And as far as knowing we are saved or not goes, no, you don’t know if you’re saved. You think you do, but the end has not come yet, and no one has been yet saved. Salvation means either being protected during the tribulation and final battle (and never experiencing the second death, known metaphorically as Gehenna), OR having died, and then being resurrected in the new world after the final battle (once again not experiencing the second death, Gehenna). The second death, or NOT being saved, means that God has removed you from His memory, and will not resurrect you into the new world or system, after the Great Day of God the Almighty, the battle of Armageddon. We’re promised life everlasting in a paradise EARTH, not heaven. Only the little flock, the annointed 144,000 adopted sons of God, who co-rule in heaven, with Jesus, ever go to heaven. Everyone else, the great crowd, are ruled, from heaven, by Jesus and the annointed adopted sons of God, ON EARTH in paradise, as Earth will be slowly transformed back into the paradise that God originally purposed for the Earth. God is the source of salvation, THROUGH JESUS, who is God’s messiah, Christ, representative, and spokesman (the Word). Jesus did not save you, yet, if he ever does. The end has NOT yet come. Salvation is not a “once saved always saved” proposition. Jesus said that the “one who has endured to the END, is the one who will be saved”. Remember that.

          • robin

            Revelation 20
            11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

            12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

            13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

            14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

            15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

          • robin

            Just answer the question Emery. Have you truly been BORN AGAIN? Except a man be born again he CANNOT ENTER the kingdom of God. It’s not rocket science. Yes, or no.

  • Paula

    Mankind will use whatever excuse necessary to indulge in the sins of the flesh.

  • tiptopsaidhe

    I don’t think this story can be true. Where are the elders of this church who are accountable for him being in the pulpit? If this church causes any to stumble, the elders who allowed it will be held accountable. What’s wrong with his wife? There is no possible way she can be comfortable with this situation. He is in a covenant marriage to her as a man, with expectations of how a man provides for his wife on many levels, to include a physical level. There is no way that Christ is abiding with this man. Christ would never join Himself to one who won’t allow His rule and lives in rebellion of God.

  • Malcolm

    I used to be patriotic!! This days are long gone. I pledge allegiance to the LAMB!

    • Emery

      Malcolm;
      That’s great! The lamb DID teach us to be no part of the world, which includes politics, war, government, etc. It is to God the Almighty alone who deserves all the glory and honor, not a flag or a country or a politician.

  • CHAR

    UNREAD, return to sender!

    • Emery

      Coward. As are most who lyingly claim to be “born again” are, in my experience anyway.

      • robin

        Are YOU born again? (by grace, through faith in Jesus). Except a man be born again he CANNOT ENTER the kingdom of God.
        You MUST be born again.

        • Emery

          Robin;
          Born again, as Jesus described to the first of the 144,000 (the holy spirit annointed apostles, and discipes who were so annointed after Jesus death) means being born of SPIRIT. Holy spirit. God’s spirit. Only the ones going to heaven, the 144,000, are ever so annointed, as per the scriptures, and they don’t lie. No, I am not invited by God to co-rule with Jesus in heaven as a co-king or co-priest, as the 144,000 are to be. I know many quite closely, and work with some of them a lot. Your religion teaches something different from what God’s word teaches. The entire New Testament was penned by, and addressed TO the 144,000. That’s the mistake most sects of Christendom make. Not recognizing this fact. ONLY the 144,000 go to heaven, and only they are born again of the spirit of God, what you call holy spirit. Sorry, but those are the facts contained in God’s word.

          You posted a bunch of scriptures a post or two ago. Posting them is fine, IF you truly understand each and every one of them, and KNOW what they say and mean. That’s the problem also. Few have a clue as to their meaning. The studying constantly that I mentioned earlier is a START in understanding them. I’ve been at it for 45 years and have many more years of study to go, and still, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to understand everything about God. He said so Himself. Again, I will say that God does NOT approve of any religion of man. Neither does Jesus, as He is God’s representative, the Word. Jesus said they’re “works of the flesh”, and “Babylon the Great” and are all to be destroyed in the tribulation, and final battle. And that goes for their participants as well. Doing God’s will, also means having nothing to do with religons of man. It means also remaining separate from the world. Not participating in the machinations of the world, it’s governments, wars, politics, desires, etc. Jesus said we would be hated, as he was, for these exact reasons. He said false teachings (mainly from sects of religions, like the sects of Christendom for example) would fill the Earth, and they have. They teach their own things, and most are different from the scripture’s teachings. No two teach the same thing, and NONE teach the “one true faith” as Jesus taught it. The one true faith is not an organized religion of man, it’s A FAITH. It’s doing the entire will of God, always. It’s enduring TILL THE END to be saved. THE END, not before. We are not saved, until we get saved, in the end Robin. Understanding these things is CRITICAL for us, if we are to experience any of the promises of God. He said “flee from her”, and flee we must. That is religons, and all other parts of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion.

          • tiptopsaidhe

            Rev 7 says they are 12,000 (virgin men from ch.14) each from the 12 tribes of Israel. Then 7:9 says…

            Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

            A great multitude, which no man could number, stood in white robes. 144,000 can be numbered, that’s why it’s a number, so John disagrees with you that only 144,000 are going to heaven. And the NT isn’t addressed only to the 144,000. For example, both of Luke’s books are addressed to Theophilus, the High Priest, the grandson of the man of sin. He was a persecutor of believers, one who had the mark of the beast, and certainly not one of the 144,000.

            As to your concept of salvation, Paul disagrees with you.

            There is no “doing” to be done by you, or me, or any other. The “doing” was done by Jesus at Calvary. We don’t “get” saved by something we do. Doing the entire will of God was already done…by Christ (God himself made flesh). When we are drawn by the Father to know Him, Jesus’ “having done” is accounted to us as “doing.” Our “good works” and “enduring to the end” are evidence of our salvation.

            Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
            Rom 3:11 There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God.
            Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

            Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
            Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

            The grace and the saving and the faith are all the gift of God, so that none can pat themselves on the back or compare their accomplishments to others.

          • Emery

            tiptop;
            You seem to have not the slightest idea about what you speak about. Namely, God’s word. You posted a comment about 12,000 virgin men from the 12 tribes, and then post 7:9 which says something different about the same people. You completely lack discernment of what you are posting. To begin with, the entire vision being described is all A VISION THAT IS FIGURATIVE. I suppose you actually think that four angels will stand at the four corners of the Earth and that they literally hold the wind. Get a grip. At least TRY to understand what you’re reading, and stop posting your “opinion” of it. Your “interpretation”, which only means GUESSING at it’s meaning. God said interpretation belongs ONLY to Him, and yet you interpret His word. And yes, the NT IS addressed ONLY to holy spirit annointed members of the 144,000, and each one who penned the words in the NT were ALL so annointed, and all were part of the 144,000. In fact, they were the first members of that group. And about salvation, you’re completely lost in space. No one is saved, until the time to BE saved is upon us. That’s like saying I just saved you from drowning, and you won’t go swimming for 40 years. Rediculous of you to make your claims. It would be hilarious, if it weren’t so sad and pathetic to see anyone say what you’re saying. Satan has certainly veiled the meaning of the scriptures, and certainly has veiled their meaning from you.

  • Mark Foster

    Many in the last days will be deceived by these false profits , God’s word is the same yesterday as it today.People like this will lead folks straight to the gates of Hell.

  • Dianne

    Hello Geoffrey, I am not in favor of banning people just because we disagree with what they are saying, HOWEVER I do think it is past time to BAN Emery from any further BLASPHEMY of the HOLY SPIRIT and Holy Scriptures. Also please remove ALL OF his BLASPHEMOUS and HERETICAL POSTS as well. The scriptures tells us what God feels about someone like him.

    Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any OTHER GOSPEL unto YOU than that which we have PREACHED unto YOU, let him be ACCURSED.

    2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that COMETH PREACHETH another Jesus, whom we have NOT PREACHED, or if ye receive another spirit, which yet have NOT received, or another gospel, which he have NOT ACCEPTED, he might well bear with him.

    Many here have patiently endured with Emery to NO AVAIL, because he is of his father the devil who abode NOT in the TRUTH. John 8:44

    2 John 1:10 If there come ANY unto you, and bring not this DOCTRINE, receive him NOT into your house, neither bid him God speed.

    • Ron

      I more than agree on that Diane. Geoffrey? I would like to say more but I need to let it go.
      God Bless You Diane!

      • Dianne

        Hello Ron, God bless you too! I hope that Geoffrey will see the importance of this critical situation and act.

  • Rae

    The word of God tells us in the last days men will call evil good and good evil. HE was listening to the wrong voice. Certainly NOT the voice of God as HE DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES! He is a man no matter what he thinks!There is a day coming and coming very soon.

  • CHAR

    Geoffrey, I THIRD the motion, to say bye bye to Emery (after Dianne and Ron). He’s a thorn in our side due to his JW teachings and just won’t give up. Seems he would’ve gotten the hint by now that we are NOT going to listen to his hypocrisy anymore. Anyone else care to join the list to get Emery banned? Unfortunate, but we call ’em like we see ’em.

  • Karen

    If the angel convinced ‘Allyson’ that the Bible was wrong…then why become a pastor at all. Why bother if in your heart you have decided that the Bible is in error and the angel is correct because it aligns with your
    feelings and desires…

    This is a complicated issue and deserves compassion and prayer.

    • Emery

      Karen;
      This article aside, God’s inspired word is not wrong. It is almost all translations that are deliberately wrong. The deliberate errors are put there by the dishonest translators. Those who would like you to believe what isn’t there, and to miss what is there. Satan is “misleading the entire inhabited Earth, and is angry, knowing he has but a short time”. False religion, false translations, peer pressure, and temptation are the top four tools in his toolbag. And boy do they work. Almost the entire Earth hasn’t a clue. You’ve gotta admit, he is a clever little blankety blank. And he knows there is no way to prove God should not be ruling Earth, and that man WILL worship God out of love, even though Satan claims no man ever will. He said that put under extreme test, man will fold, and forsake God. We must prove him wrong. He gets abyssed soon anyway.

      • Eddie

        Emery-The last 2 JW’s that have come by my house, have left and not returned. This is why. I asked them if the NWT said that if a prophet was wrong on one thing-he was a false prophet. They said it did. I reminded them (or perhaps told them for the 1st time, not sure) that in the beginning that the JW’s used the ASV Bible. Then, when they prophesied more than once of the return of Jesus and He didn’t show up, they switched gears and then wrote their own Bible. That’s never a good plan, taking God’s Word and fitting it to YOUR theology. So, they had to change their story. I asked them some questions they couldn’t answer. I told them that if they could come back and answer those questions without telling me what one of the false prophets said in one of their books, that they could come back and discuss it with me. The 1st 2 that I told that was a young girl in training and her “teacher” or whatever they are called. They just walked off. The last time, it was one of the elders of the local hall. And I quote, he said, “I probably won’t be back then.” It has been over 2 years now and I haven’t seen him again. I would rather believe in the tooth fairy than I would hitch my eternity by believing in a group of people who misfired on some prophecies and then paraphrased a new translation from those failed prophecies. I pray you will come to know the Way, the Truth, and the Life-the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • Billy

    Just when you think it can’t get a b you worse! Please Lord Jesus come soon.

  • Kim

    12 Yea, and all that will liue godly in Christ Iesus, shall suffer persecution.
    13 But euill men and
    1 This know also, that in the last dayes perillous times shall come.
    2 For men shall bee louers of their owne selues, couetous, boasters, proude, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, vnthankfull, vnholy,
    3 Without naturall affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    4 Traitours, heady, high minded, louers of pleasures more then louers of God,
    5 Hauing a forme of godlinesse, but denying the power thereof: from such turne away.
    6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and leade captiue silly women laden with sinnes, led away with diuers lusts,
    7 Euer learning, and neuer able to come to the knowledge of the trueth. seducers shall waxe worse and worse, deceiuing, and being deceiued.

  • Kim

    12 Yea, and all that will liue godly in Christ Iesus, shall suffer persecution.
    13 But euill men and seducers shall waxe worse and worse, deceiuing, and being deceiued.

    • Emery

      Kim;
      Yes, it’s all just as prophecied. No word of scripture has EVER failed.

      Now on to another matter. Your “u” key and your “v” key seem to be transposed in your posts. If it’s a desktop, try another keyboard. If not, no matter.

  • Larry/vietnamvet1971

    For all the so called liberal Christians and their LGBT so called Christians….IF you think it is OK to continue your ungodly life styles and it you treat GODS Grace as a door mat to wipe your feet on and still live your Perverted ways then Paul in writing his letter in Titus is telling you how to live and how NOT to live….

    INSTRUCTING how to LIVE.

    Titus:

    11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
    12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
    13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,
    14 who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.
    15 These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

  • Mike

    10 For I tell you, as the truth of the Anointed One lives in me, I will continue to boast about this all throughout Achaia. 11 Why am I doing this? It’s not because I don’t love you—God knows I do— 12-13 but I will continue doing what I am doing to cut off any opportunity—clearly some are looking for one—for these false emissaries, these low-down, untrustworthy preachers, these posers who act as emissaries of the Anointed, to claim that they work under the same terms that we do. 14 No wonder they are so good at it. Satan himself poses as a messenger of heavenly light, 15 so why should we expect less from his servants—plodding over the earth, pretending to be ministers of righteousness—but in the end, they’ll get what’s coming to them.

    2 Cor 11:10-15

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