The Shocking Message Pope Francis Preached At New York’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral

Like many people, I missed the message that the Pope preached at St. Patrick's Cathedral because it was not streamed live as far as I was aware. And honestly, I was much more interested from a prophecy perspective in what he was going to say to Washington and the United Nations. So I did not bother to take a peek and see what he preached at St. Patrick's. When I did, I about fell off my chair.
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The Pope, the self-proclaimed “vicar of Christ”, preaching a message of the FAILURE OF JESUS on the cross.

“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” 1 Corinthians 1:18 (KJV)

Like many people, I missed the message that the Pope preached at St. Patrick’s Cathedral because it was not streamed live as far as I was aware. And honestly, I was much more interested from a prophecy perspective in what he was going to say to Washington and the United Nations. So I did not bother to take a peek and see what he preached at St. Patrick’s. When I did, I about fell off my chair.

Watch As Pope Francis Says Jesus Was A ‘Failure On The Cross’:

First of all, Pope Francis gave a shout-out to his “Muslim brothers and sisters” when he said this – “I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters: Firstly, my greetings as they celebrate the feast of sacrifice.” In case he doesn’t know, Islam clearly teaches that their god, Allah, has no son. None at all. So for a Christian to be a spiritual brother or sister with a Muslim is impossible. The Qu’ran boldly declares that Allah has no son:

It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, “Be,” and it is.”  Surah 19:35,36

Pope Francis has been wooing the Muslims into the Vatican tent for sometime now. In November of 2014, he prayed inside a Mosque in Istanbul, in December of 2014 Pope Francis defended Islam as a “religion of peace”, and just a few weeks ago issued the order for all Catholics in Europe to take in Muslim migrants to live with them in their homes.

But it didn’t stop there, not by a long shot. Pope Francis declared the work of Jesus on the cross to be a failure

Perhaps the most shocking, the most stunning words to ever come out of the Pope’s mouth had to do with him talking about the “failure of the Cross”. What?? It is because of Jesus on the cross, that we have salvation. It is because of the cross that we now have access to the Father and a FULL pardon for our sins. It is because of the cross that Heaven, and not Hell, is our destination. This is what he said:

“The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds. God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”

That was it, not another word. You would expect him to say something like “while it appeared to be a failure to His disciples, the cross was actually a victory…” or some such thing. I have heard that preached many times before in church. But the thing is, he didn’t say that. He just simply stated that the life of Jesus on the cross “ended in failure”, which is a complete and total lie. How he could just leave it there, in defeat, to declare the cross a FAILURE and not expound one, tiny bit more is beyond imagination. The Pope, the self-proclaimed “vicar of Christ”, preaching a message of the FAILURE OF JESUS on the cross. Honestly, words fail me at this moment. Truly.

What better way could Pope Francis end a “sermon” whose opening remarks call Christ-rejecting, Hell-bound Muslims our “brothers and sisters”, and whose main point is the “failure of Jesus on the cross”, than by praying to Mary and asking for her blessing:

“Dear brothers and sisters, in a few moments, we will sing the Magnificat. Let us commend to our lady the work we have been entrusted to do. Let us join her in thanking god for the great things he has done…”

You can click here to read the full transcript of this sermon from the pit of Hell, but honestly, why would you want to?

Pope Francis, as far I am concerned, still retains his title of The False Prophet…and then some.

 


 

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  • marlene

    Jesus told us there would be many false prophets. This pope is most certainly one of them.

    • RobiMac

      He’s more than that. He’s THE noted false prophet that Revelation speaks of.

      • cm

        I respectfully disagree! This Blasphemus pope is definately anti-christ in spirit, and a false teacher. But, I do NOT think he is the end times false prophet from the book of Revelation. He does NOT fit the description. He is not along side a one world leader, or leading a one world religion, or demanding people to worship a one world leader (who isn’t even here yet). I do think that he is here to fulfil end times Bible prophecy by promoting the “Great Falling Away” and helping to divide the land of Israel. He is also leading people away from Christ, and promoting very ungodly things. Interestingly he has said that he will not be here in a couple of years??? So, NO he is NOT the false prophet from the Book of Revelation.

        • Heather

          I’ve been reading Revelation 13 this evening and something is really bothering me about what we are seeing now, verses what these scriptures show. Does not Revelation 13 show the beast rising first before the False Prophet? This is what it shows. Is the beast a system as in the Vatican, or, is the beast the Antichrist?

          Scriptures show before the False Prophet arises that one of the heads to the beast has a head wound. Is this a head wound to the Antichrist, or is this a head wound to Rome from many years ago and now it’s wound has healed?

          It also shows all the world wondered after the beast, worshiping the beast and the dragon. Then a few verses later it shows the False Prophet rising. Can anyone elaborate on this for me? If pope francis is not the false prophet, then they are toying with us.

          • Lynda Rasar

            I will tell you what I believe Heather. The beast has seven heads. ONE of the heads is severely wounded, so much it should die,,, but the wound heals… and all the world wonders at that… The last election the people in America rose up to stop Obama. We voted out ALMOST ALL the democrats… The night of the election America was so relieved! The beast was mortally wounded! What could Obama do all by himself? But the very next day, in front of the entire nation he said…that didn’t hurt me. That didn’t stop me. In fact now I can’t be stopped. And all the world, and especially America wondered at the beast. How this could be. And many worshipped the evil one who gave him this power. And they worshipped Obama…saying who has ever done this? Who can stop him now? And Obama opened his mouth speaking great things and blasphemies. He blasphemes God and God’s name and his Church and the righteous who have died. And Obama has been given power to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And those who will not be saved worship him all the more for his blasphemies and his power. And the last couple days the second beast rose up, with two horns like a lamb. And he spoke like the evil one… and like the first beast. He agrees with the first beast… approves what he says so that all that dwell on the earth even more so worship the first beast. Which is exactly what has happened with this Pope. People who despise God are delighted with this Pope. They are in ecstasy that the Pope has confirmed on Obama the “Right” to do what he is doing. “God’s” approval. “God’s” blessing. Next comes the mark. And somehow 666. We are here. We, however, have the one true God to hide in. We are not alone. Keep your eyes fixed on Heaven now. Fixed on our glorious future. And on Jesus. Who will get us through this storm. Amen.

          • RoseKind

            End is coming! It is all in prophecy!
            http://tinyurl.com/pnnh5eu

          • Sueawatcher

            Perhaps the beast has risen. Think long and hard about it!

          • THIS IS A HEALING OF THE HEAD WOUND WHICH WAS WOUNDED IN 1798, BACK IN EFFECT 1923, THIS IS THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND YES HE IS PUSHING THE AGENDA, HE IS A FALSE PROPHET AND ANTICHRIST THEY BOW TO HIM AND HE BOWS TO ISLAM…HE KISSES THE QURAN, HE JUST HAD A MASS WITH ALL THESE RELIGIONS, ONE WORLD RELIGION AGAINST GOD…

          • carson

            heralding prophets come before the one they will eventually point to, take john the baptist as example, he came before Christ and made the hearts and way ready for when Christ would arrive.

            so chances are the false prophet would come before the anti-christ, today the FP can’t point to the beast man yet but he can point and work towards building the way, the system, and turn hearts towards the way of that man, that man of sin that anti-christ and his way of things.

            The main theme of rev 13 is the anti-christ more then it’s theme/focus is on the false prophet, so the anti-christ is mentioned first.
            Rev 17 shows the beast anti-christ too, but the more focus is on the woman who rides the beast as it heads into rev 18.

            and rev 17 shows the beast as having a rider, yet rev 13 shows the beast anti-christ rise without a rider also shows that it’s the beast who is empowered by the dragon not the woman, so rev 17 shows the beast in it’s infancy when it still has it’s rider, that woman, then the woman is thrown off and the beast is empowered, the beast is empowered not the woman who was on it’s back, pointed out as example of chronological order vs what each chapter is focusing on.

            The anti-christ is very likely/obviously alive today and somewhere, but his time isn’t yet come, the false prophet is making the rounds helping to build the infrastructure for the way’s and system of that man for when his time comes, this pope might not be THAT false prophet, but the things he drives for are infrastructure to the anti-christ system, inter-faithism (which this article covered) and a ‘global authority’ and more.
            Many might not know it but prior popes called for a global authority, yet they weren’t THE false prophet, just one of many false prophets, but the ideals/desires of what they drive for go onward and with each passing day they get nearer their goals of a global world and they even might not know it (or not all of them know) that there comes a man who’ll head it all up, empowered by the dragon/devil just as shown in rev 13. Luke 4:5-6 also shows some.

          • Heather

            Thank you carson and to all of you for your thoughts on this.

          • Watchman

            Author, Joel Richardson, has written several books on endtime events.I think he is on target in his writings about what is happening today and how it all fits in with the endtimes. The Islamic Antichrist and The Mideast Beast are 2 of his books.

          • Slamdunk

            Heather,

            “Beast” applies to evil government or person. Former world empires are called beasts and the antichrist will be a “beast” person reigning over the “beast” empire.

          • olivia

            Heather, i read somewhere that operation blue beams is a fake rapture that has been prepared to prove to christians that the are wrong in what they believe.What i can tell you is that you should not leave Jesus,no matter what happens because the whole thing is complex.Jesus is true as we who believe in him have experienced him in one way or the other. If you do not understand revelation just hang on to christ.If you see a lot of evil then a lot of good also exist.You have known him Jesus,dont give up

        • Endtimes

          As sign of end times…
          http://tinyurl.com/pnnh5eu

        • Oraccle

          Scripture does not say the False Prophet is initially standing with the Anti-Christ, but scripture does say at some point during his life he will support the anti-Christ publicly. Using your odd logic, the False Prophet would have to be with the anti-Christ from birth to fit prophetic scripture. Same lack of logic on your part again, the Pope has been working hard to create an ecclesiastical One World Religion.If you are not familiar, do a Google search for “Pope one world religion”. The one world leader (anti-Christ) that you say ” isn’t even here yet” could easily, and most likely is, already here as a national leader who will gain preeminence on a global scale. I find it ironic that you believe the pope is “promoting the “Great Falling Away”, helping to divide the land of Israel, leading people away from Christ, and promoting very ungodly things”, yet you state the Pope can not be the Beast False Prophet from out of the Earth. The Pope fits the description of the False Prophet in every way, his standing with the Anti-Christ is already happening in his support of the One World Government dominance project he is part of. The Catholics, apostate “Christians”, and all of the ism religions along side Islam’s long awaited Third Mahdi will head up the One World Church.

        • Oraccle

          Scripture does not say the False Prophet is always standing with the Anti-Christ, but scripture does say at some point during his life he will support the anti-Christ publicly. Using your logic, the False Prophet would have to be with the anti-Christ from birth to fit prophetic scripture. The Pope has been working hard to create an ecclesiastical One World Religion. If you are not familiar, do a Google search for “Pope one world religion”. The one world leader (anti-Christ) that you say “isn’t even here yet” could easily, and most likely is, already here as a national leader who will gain preeminence on a global scale. I find it ironic that you believe the pope is “promoting the “Great Falling Away”, helping to divide the land of Israel, leading people away from Christ, and promoting very ungodly things”, yet you state the Pope can not be the Beast False Prophet from out of the Earth. The Pope fits the description of the False Prophet in every way, his standing with the Anti-Christ is already happening in his support of the One World Government dominance project (NWO)he is part of. The Catholics, apostate “Christians”, and all of the ism religions along side Islam’s long awaited Third Mahdi will head up the One World Church. Could it be that you base your opinion on a normalcy bias, in that the fulfillment of end time prophecy “can’t be happening to you”? The end will come just as God said it will, there is a day coming when Jesus will return, and our wishing it into the next generation will have zero affect on God’s timetable. Ready or not, it is at the door.

        • Bumblebee

          The pope is laying the ground work to a one-world system … that is all his climate control agenda 2030 presentation was about. I believe he might just be one of the false prophets. One thing is for sure, he is a false prophet.

        • Martin
        • Holly

          Mind blowing that sheeple so narrow mindedly find the pope some type of anti christ or false prophet merely because he has the spiritual intelligence to try to create UNITY!?? Sorry. I dont believe ONLY christians go to heaven. Hard time believing Ghandi is in hell. That would make your christian God firstly, lead by his EGO, not to mention sadisistic. My child could lie, could disrespect and even reject me….if i threw her into a pit of fire for it, …..how LOVING is that? People need to wake up. If it DIVIDES us? It IS NOT GOD and war and blood shed will continue. Christian crusades murdered many women and children in the name of God. How is that remotely representing Christ? Im relieved we have a spiritual leader wise enough to see the forest for the trees and brave enough to be vocal about it.

          • J Thomas

            I’m sorry Holly, but you are naive and ignorant. The Crusades were a direct response to incessant Islamic slaughter. Read some history and stop listening to liberal lies. As for help, if you deny God, despite all of His efforts to bring you to him, YOU choose hell. Ghandi may very well be in hell, yes. Good deeds are not enough.

            If you can’t understand that, I suggest thoroughly reading the Bible. Not to become a Christian, but at least to understand His word.

          • bremertonchristian

            If they murdered women and children they weren’t christians. Jesus is our perfect example and He only healed never hurt.

          • America is Lost

            Holly;

            You are falling for the end time deception. Jesus said he came to bring a sword.

            Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. Holly, Jesus Christ is God in the flesh.

            And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

            By the way, the crusades was mostly about doing away with the muslim killings of Christians. Study history, it is repeating itself.

          • Jack

            Holly, several people are pouncing on you, but at least I see your point. Only Christians go to heaven? So what happens to half of the world population who doesnt know Christ? What about ancient people born Before Christ (BC)?. Even Christians when you qualify it for true Christians, they are of many denominations and not even agreeing with each other. Why dangle about heaven and hell? That two destinations are here on earth as matter of choice. Living heavenly or hellish is our everyday struggle according to your deeds proportionately if that is good or bad. Who want to have eternal life? What we really want is eternal rest. At the end of the day, we want a reward of rest. God’s reward to people is give rest, not eternally singing in heaven. The problem also is that some people who did not agree with Pope throw the bible as a barometer of so called anti-christ. What is important is how we live our life on earth. We just have to equate our life with a choice of Good and Bad, then let the TRUE GOD takes care of the rest.

          • edwitness

            Holly,
            Firstly, it was Jesus Himself who said He is “the way, the truth, and the life, NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME”.That is why only Christians go to heaven. John14:6,7
            Secondly, God doesn’t send anyone to hell. As crazy as it is, they actually choose hell instead of the eternal life Jesus died to provide for for them. That is what real love does. It allows you to choose, even though He could force you if He wanted to. Just like you would do for your own children when they become adults and make their own choices.
            Thirdly, the pope is described in the Bible as the false prophet. And the Roman Catholic religion as the harlot. The “woman that rides the beast”. Rev.17:18- “And the woman which thou sawest IS that great city, which REIGNETH over the kings of the earth”. Rome was the city that was reigning over the earth when John wrote the letter. And the Catholic religion is the pagan successor of pagan Rome.

        • Slamdunk

          Brother CM,

          So far you’re right. But in the next year or so he could be around when Mr. Antichrist comes on the scene AND THEN become the false prophet. Either way, it’s close, real close.

        • amy

          Sounds like a false prophet to me

        • Lungu Tenges

          I think you have to agree that the current pope is the anti-Christ. He will come to power in 2016, he is doing an under-ground movement to unite the Muslims and Christians. The power of the Satan will fully enter into Pope and use Pope has a vessel to accomplish Satan’s mission for 3 and half year. Pope will be possessed by Satan, and he will order the world to worship him. Anyone who is against him will be beheaded(persecution). The world will not have and control be Pope will control the world not by human power but devilic power.

          One world Order

          One World Government
          2.One World Money
          3.One World Church – in the one world church everyone in the world, black or white, rich or poor will be forced to worship the Pope( anti – Christ).

          Revelation 13: The beast out of the sea:
          Will be fulfilled, in 2016 to 2018, satan will work on the surface of the earth for 3 and half. Its very short time so Satan will do anything within the short length of time to take everyone on earth with him to hell.

          Please do not wait for tomorrow be on guard, the world is coming to an end.
          Pray to the God trinity( God the Father, God the Son-Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit ) to take control over your flesh and request the Lord Almighty God put a guaranteed stamp of ownership- seal of the Holy Spirit – 777 seal in your heart.

          EPHESIANS 1 : 13-14

          Seal of the holy Spirit, is your ticket to help.

          You might not know how to receive the seal of the holy spirit but you MUST pray without cease so that the Lord will answer your prayers.
          Pray is key to open the pearly gates of heaven.

          Pray is my weapon to fight with devil, be the devil is Spirit you can not see, so in order to fight with the devil is to pray to the God Almighty to intervene because God is Spirit.

          You MUST know that Satan imitates God Almighty
          1. God vs Satan
          2.Holy Spirit vs Demon Spirt
          3. Gods Government vs Satans Government:

          Its a spiritual realm, as being a human we can not see, however; when you continue to pray with cease, God Almighty will reveal everything to you.

          GOD BLESS YOU, DECIDE NOW BEFORE ITS TO LATE. CHOICE IS YOU.

          HELL IS REAL AND HEAVEN IS REAL:

          HELL WAS CREATED FOR SATAN AND HIS ONE THIRD OF THE DEVILIC ANGELS, NOT FOR US HUMAN MADE IS HIM(GODS) OWN IMAGE.

          Lungu Tenges

      • sounder

        I would agree with you and take it a step further, that satan always counterfeits scripture and just as John was the forerunner of Jesus, I believe the pope is a forerunner of the antichrist.

      • Carlos mason

        I believe he is the brother of the antichrist,the false prophet.

      • Charlene Dorame

        Yes, the Pope is THE FALSE PROPHET that is in the book of Revelation. There is a video that came out on Sept. 22, in regards to the Pope. The TRUE PROPHET OF GOD that speaks here states this. Below is the link if you haven’t seen it yet. We must constantly be praying for God to keep our eyes and ears open Spiritually, so that nothing deceives us!!

        • Michelle

          Charlene, I don’t see a link to the referenced video. I couldn’t find it on YouTube.

    • You are all false prophets. You wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face. The Holy Spirit chose Pope Francis. If you have a problem with that, then complain to the Father, Son, and Spirit. Keep your heretical, confused, interpretation of scripture to yourselves.

      WKM

      • David

        I have to admit that I believe some people overstate the Pope’s involvement, as I believe he is a foreshadowing of things to come. Instead of accusing those that disagree with you, calling them false prophets, why don’t you refute the substance of the NTEB article. I would like to hear your explanation.

        • GWA

          @David……I would LOVE to hear his explanation. And W. Keith Moore please use a King James Bible and show Bible verses and make sure you have 2 scripture backing up what you say because God ALWAYS has a “double witness”. I would love to have you tell us how Jesus Christ was a “failure” I would also like you to show me in The Bible where it says we must pray to Mary? Please, show us.
          AND…..as long as we are at it…..show us where it say’s God appoints a “man” to represent Him here on earth. A “man” who speaks for Him? Again….2 scripture please?
          I will be waiting for your answers……Good Luck

          • Peace and Love

            1. Your belief as a Christian should not be swayed or muted or not shared because others do not follow Christ’s teachings. We as Christians are taught that we are ALL God’s children. Therefore we are ALL brothers and sisters. Not accepting this by not sharing your love and compassion with someone who does not share in your belief of Christ’s teachings (such as with a muslim) highlights how great is the weakness of your faith.
            2. Referring to one sound bite of an entire text without including what was said before or after in order to benefit oneself shows a lack of intelligent debate and a weak argument.

            Prior to the statement Pope Francis was advising that:

            “The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds: God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus… and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”

            Which is saying that when we feel or are truly failing in life that we must remember the human/carnal life and death of Jesus. His physical death can be seen as a failure, because he did not succeed in remaining alive.

            The Pope continued to say that:

            “Whatever difficulties and trials you face, I ask you, like Saint Peter, to be at peace and to respond to them as Christ did: he thanked the Father, took up his cross and looked forward!”

            Jesus took human form for us to be able to relate to him. He failed, he doubted, he hurt and he stumbled as humans do. This analogy should give us hope as children of God, as humans on this beautiful earth. Because even after going through such human weaknesses, he still picked up his cross every single time knowing what was upon him. Knowing his human body would fail and die, but continuing because he knew this humiliation was a sacrifice he had to make so that his love, teachings and the Word of God would continue on even after his physical life.

            I suggest you all read a text in its entirety and do your own research before you follow such negativity and misinformation.

          • Utah sucks

            King James Bible is the anti-Christ!!

        • Lynn

          Now I’m no fan of the Catholic Church or the Pope, I can’t stand to see his words twisted. While I am concerned about his calling Muslims brothers and sisters, I can refute the claim that he views what Jesus did on the cross as a failure. Did anyone read the comment in context? I did and I will include a link to the text of his message. He was saying that the cross redefines what is success and that God is in charge of bringing forth fruit from our lives. The world may consider what we do or our lives in general as failures, but God sees things differently and brings forth fruit from them. The world sees Jesus being crucified as his defeat, but we know that in the spiritual realm it was the eternal victory. Here is the comments in context. “The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds. God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”
          Now I admit he could have made it a little clearer, but when you look at it as a whole, it’s obviously trying to show how God’s perspective of success is totally different, even opposite, of the world’s.
          http://abcnews.go.com/US/read-pope-francis-yorks-st-patricks-cathedral/story?id=34023376

          • Love and Peace

            Thank you Lynn!

          • Meri

            Thank you.. I never said I liked the pope and I am not catholic but that was taken out of context about the cross being a failure. All Christ’s followers were devastated when Christ was killed. They all felt like failures as they stood powerless and watched with their “human eyes” as their beloved Christ was being murdered before their eyes. Not understanding why it was happening. I know my world would have been turned upside down. Then Christ rose from the grave. They were all stunned! How much more amazing was Christ to them at that point. All their disappointments washed away. A restoration of hope beyond what they thought possible. They then understood! By human standards the cross was a failure. However, Christ arose!!

            Key words, HUMANLY SPEAKING.

            One way to make oneself look bad is to pick somebody apart and do it out of context. It makes everything else said questionable. Christians always do crap like that.

          • Lynn

            You’re welcome. I agree Mari. Even the disciples thought Jesus failed because He didn’t bring in the Kingdom in the physical realm as they expected. I totally agree that taking things out of context only makes us look foolish and casts doubt on anything we say. But it’s not just Christians that do this. The progressive left also does it. It’s called spin and it seems that all forms of news media do it. It’s so hard to find ALL the facts on an issue. 🙁

          • Vivian

            Thank you for your intelligence!! These so-called Christians take every out of context and run with it and slander a wonderful and God loving man such as the pope!

          • Vivian

            Thank you Lynn! I have been verbally attacked for saying what you have expressed almost word for word to supposed Christian friends.

          • Utah sucks

            Born again are idiots. Complete morons. I knocked one out a few years ago because he got my face. Wasn’t so tough after that!! lol

      • Sueawatcher

        You are right Keith God is in control. He always is. This is written in the sciptures and it is playing out as God intented.

      • Dave

        Or are you wrong W. Keith Moore? Have you been listening to false prophets? I mean, all the signs are there. He is recognized to be a great religious leader? Just saying. The things the Pope spoke went against the Bible concerning our hope in Christ and his accomplishment on the Cross. Scripture does not speak of Jesus’ death on the Cross as a failure, but as victory and our hope.

      • George

        And I thought Pope Benedict was chosen by the Holy Spirit, but was rejected by a lost world. If Pope’s can only be removed by death, will the real Pope please stand up?

      • Juan Rivera

        I believe the pope is anti-Christ, He is now calling Christ and the cross a failure. It is said he the Pope is the head of the beast, as he leads the catholic religion among other things. I look into it and actually find it to be true. For one the roman empire change Gods rule, the Sabbath, in 6 days god made the world and all in it and there for made the seventh day holy and rested on that very day. Sabbath = sundown Friday – sundown Saturday, how many of you worship and follow Gods rules or are disobeying Gods commandments and worshiping on Sundays as the Catholics require you to ? Soon enough it will be a government law enforcing us to worship on Sundays, keep you eyes open as America is to play a big part in what will soon be the end.

        • Kristian J.

          Catholics don’t worship only on Sundays they have Saturday mass and Sunday morning mass other religions have the Sabbath day as sunday atleast that’s how it’s always been with my husband’s family as they are catholic

          • sooz22

            The Catholics have their services on Saturday evening, essentially on Sunday since it’s generally after sundown. The Jewish days are measured from sundown to sundown.

      • Jenny

        Morning, Keith…

        You know that YOU clicked on this Protestant Pre-Trib rapture website, right?

        That’s funny! Actually, it’s “protesting.” Oh the ironies!

        Cheers,
        Jenny

        • Utah sucks

          Protesting prodies and spooks sitting under Mormon tree drinking koolaid and devil worshiping satan

      • Wendy De Rycke

        W.Keith. There is a huge difference between what God allows and what he ordains. The Holy Spirit has nothing to do with the selection of any Pope, or any other leader that has ever been or will be.

        Judas was allowed and an integral part of the purpose for Jesus to pay the ultimate price for the forgiveness of sins.

        It is very disturbing when a Pope states that the cross failed, Jesus died.
        Without the Cross we are all dead and condemned for eternity.

        It is very distrubing when a Pope says you do not have to believe in God just be a good person. That too will not save a single soul and lead many to a false sense of security.

        It is very disturbing when a Pope calls Muslims Brothers and Sisters. This is specifically reserved for fellow Christians in Christ.

        It is very disturbing when a Pope beats around the bush and does not come out and condemn the murder of over 50 million babies through abortion.

        It is very disturbing when a Pope claims that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is dangerous.

        Leading untold numbers to lose their souls because they place their faith in a Pope and not the word of God which never changes is disturbing.

        Read Acts and Romans after praying to God to be filled with the Holy Spirit so that you will have the discernment to understand the Bible. I pray that your journey will lead you to the undeniable truth of what the Church was intended to be and how it should operate and that you will be filled with joy over the beauty and simplicity of the gift that is so freely offered to all that seek to know him.

        • Michelle

          Beautiful!! May God bless you.

      • Derek Bird

        Mr. Moore, it is obvious that you have been ensnared in the same lie that all Catholics believe. One “Vicar of Christ” is placed in authority over an entire church, but by whose authority? You state that the Pope, blasphemously referred to as the “Holy Father” who acts as “God among us” has been “chosen” by the Holy Spirit, a second branch of the trinity. One of three supposed separate beings. You left out one of the Titles. That of the Son. A very confusing hierarchy. The frosting on your cake, and the part that will forever prevent me from taking the catholic lie into my mouth is the part where a new Pope is chosen. If the new Pope is chosen by the Holy Spirit, why in the world would the Cardinals from all over the world need to assemble behind closed doors in a secret ritual and “vote” for the next pope? If the Holy Spirit had His hand in it, wouldn’t it be miraculously revealed, or since He is infallible wouldn’t the voting be over with the first ballot count? Wouldn’t they all have the same name in unanimous decree? A pope. Either this one, or a successor will have a hand in Satan’s work. He will lead millions into damnation. Fortunately, I believe that I will be safely in heaven after the Rapture, and before the worst part of the Bible begin to unfold!

      • carson

        how could one in Christ call those who are strictly not of or in Christ ‘brothers’ in Christ?
        ..unless he speaks of ‘another christ’ and not the Christ of the word of God.
        If you don’t know what inter-faithism is and all it’s beliefs and whose involved and so on find out for your eternities sake and flee from it all and flee unto Christ in truth.

        if you met a baal worshiper would you call him your ‘brother’? and the term is used for those who are in spirit the same as you make no mistake. So if your of Christ someone who worships baal or any of the other so called gods cannot be your ‘brother, period end of story, what does light have in common with darkness, 2nd corinthians 6:14-18.

        That doesn’t mean you hate him, obviously the baal worshiper/those who reject Christ are blinded by the world the flesh and the devil just as any who are saved today were once not saved but blinded in various way’s too, instead it means you care enough for him to tell him the truth, he is not on the path of life in Christ but on the wide road that leads to perdition, shouldn’t you tell him that? which is love, to tell him he’s dandy and doing fine, or warn him in hopes he could be saved?
        The world is so backwards it say’s if you don’t ‘join’ with the baal worshiper then somehow that means you hate him, the world lie’s…if your in the Truth of Christ and you fail to duly warn others about the errant path their on that is not love, and what do the inter-faithers do? they fail at every turn to warn those not of Christ that their on the wrong path and do not have life, they fail to warn and that is not love..
        ezekiel 33 shows some also.

      • Peace and Love

        1. Your beliefs as a Christian should not be swayed or muted or not shared because others do not follow Christ’s teachings. We as Christians are taught that we are ALL God’s children. Therefore we are ALL brothers and sisters. Not accepting this by not sharing your love and compassion with someone who does not share in your belief of Christ’s teachings (such as with a muslim) highlights how great is the weakness of your faith.
        2. Referring to one sound bite of an entire homily with out including what was said before or after in order to benefit oneself shows a lack of intelligent debate and a weak argument.
        Prior to the statement Pope Francis was advising that:

        “The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds: God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus… and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”

        Which is saying that when we feel or are truly failing in life that we must remember the human/carnal life and death of Jesus. His physical death can be seen as a failure, because he did not succeed in remaining alive.

        The Pope continued to say that:

        “Whatever difficulties and trials you face, I ask you, like Saint Peter, to be at peace and to respond to them as Christ did: he thanked the Father, took up his cross and looked forward!”

        Jesus took human form for us to be able to relate to him. He failed, he doubted, he hurt and he stumbled as humans do. This analogy should give us hope as children of God, as humans on this beautiful earth. Because even after going through such human weaknesses, he still picked up his cross every single time knowing what was upon him. Knowing his human body would fail and die, but continuing because he knew this humiliation was a sacrifice he had to make so that his love, teachings and the Word of God would continue on even after his physical life.

        I suggest you all read a text in its entirety and do your own research before you follow such negativity and misinformation.

        • Skywatcher

          Peace and Love, May I kindly suggest you take a dose of your own medicine and do your own “research”. Nowhere in the Holy Bible does it say that we are “all God’s children”! We are either “in Christ” or apart from Christ. It cannot be both ways!

          Can a man have two fathers? No. Then Christ must’ve been lying when He told the religious leaders of His day, “You’re of your father, the devil.” Jn. 8: 44

          We must be very careful about the words that we speak: “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. for by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” Mt. 12: 36, 37

      • Slamdunk

        Mr. Keith,

        It is unconscienable that a Pope would say that the crucifixion of Christ was a failure. He said this during his sermon at St. Patrick’s cathedral. Christ’s death on the cross was eminently successful and the risen Christ will set you free from your sins and give you eternal life.

      • Ort

        W. Keith Moore— if you think the Trinity chose a man that usurps God’s very own title and calls the cross a failure, YOU are the one who needs to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
        The cross was pure Victory. Stop defending a pagan based, works based “church”.
        Shame on you, for real.

      • America is Lost

        W.Keith, you are being deceived, the Holy Spirit did not choose him, but Satan does. Read your Bible and you will see there is not a man on earth worthy of being called Holy Father. Hell is a long time, you may want to read the Word of God, the Bible.

        Matt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven

        And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

        So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

      • Utah sucks

        Right on Mr. Moore!!!

      • and never once do these folks stop to believe whether the article is correct. An important piece of the sentence has been removed (just so as to stir up trouble) – What Pope Francis said was: “And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus . . . and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, in the failure of the cross” – humanly speaking being the qualifier here in other words, if you know English, it did NOT end in failure spiritually speaking.

        • Candy,
          You said “Edwitness – The Hail Mary is taken directly from the Bible (Luke) and is a prayer to ask Mary to help us – just as I might ask my neighbour to pray for me or you might ask your friend to pray for you – nothing sinister here. It is always said alongside the Lord’s prayer (Matthew). Please also read ‘Crossing the threshold of hope’ by Pope John Paul II and you will see that whilst Catholics say Muslims get it right when they profess faith in the one God of Creation, they get it very, very wrong when it comes to what God has revealed to us in Scripture (and I will ask you too, to prayer for our Muslim brothers and sisters on this!)”

          I have no Muslim brothers and sisters. They are pagans like you are. And you are a liar when you say we are to pray to Mary as if we were asking our friend or neighbor to. Never do we attribute to our friends or neighbors what belongs only to God. Namely, “our life, our hope, most gracious advocate….” YOU ARE A LIAR!

    • Heidi K.

      Amen, Marlene.

    • Martin

      494
      The world will soon be presented with the most deceitful lie which is impossible for mankind to grasp at this stage.
      Friday, July 20th, 2012 @ 17:46
      My dearly beloved daughter the three and a half years remaining in the Tribulation period commences in December 2012.
      This is the period when the antichrist will emerge as a military hero.
      His soul has been given over to Satan who possesses every part of him.
      The powers he will possess means, that in time he, will be seen not just as the man of peace but people will think he is I, Jesus Christ, the Saviour of Mankind.
      They will also, in time, believe that the antichrist has been sent to herald The Second Coming.
      So many poor souls will, therefore, willingly accept his mark, the Mark of the Beast. For he is the beast in every way because of the way in which Satan will manifest himself in his body.
      He will perform miracles in the sky.
      He will heal people.
      He will be head of the New World Religion and he, and the False Prophet, who will head up the shell of the Catholic Church on earth will work closely to deceive all of God’s children.
      The world will soon be presented with the most deceitful lie which is impossible for mankind to grasp at this stage.
      For those of you who are being given the Book of Truth, these My Holy messages to the warn humanity of these things, know this.
      So sophisticated will their plan be, that many will be fooled by the loving humane exterior which they will present to the world of their wicked plan.
      The Antichrist and the False Prophet, between them, are already finishing planning their wicked reign and the first thing they will bring about will be the escalation of the war in the Middle East.

    • Lizann

      This is completely misinterpreted. Yes, taken out of context. I have read the full version in English and Spanish. He says HUMANLY SPEAKING the cross was a failure because, ummm, it was a punishment for criminals and resulted in death. Jesus’s followers wept at the cross because they saw the event of the crucifixion as a HUMAN FAILURE. Of course, they couldn’t expect the Resurrection and God’s divine ability to bring fruitfulness out of something that appears to be failure. That was the Pope’s point. That even when our lives seem to be failures humanly speaking (I.e.when viewed and evaluated from human perspectives) that we can never predict or fully understand God’s perspecitive and God’s ability to bring good out of evil. This is clearly lost in translation and you all need to calm down and study the sentence structure.

    • jem

      He’s THE ONE which the revelation says “to unite and rule the world bringing the name of GOD, but, a deceiver, a prophet of SATAN”.

      any words that comes out from he’s mouth is a lie, and may deceived you…

    • Heather Montealegre

      Please read the entire speech from the Pope. You are just taking the words failure and Jesus and saying he is wrong. The Pope is telling the bishops that their apostolate will not be judged from the worldly standards but from Gods perspective. The Pope then says that Jesus’ life may have been a failure from world standards but was a success from Gods perspective. There were many people who lived during Jesus lifetime that had expected the messiah to deliver them from the evils of the Romans and since he didn’t save them from Rome they viewed him as a failure. But Jesus did not come to be a political leader but to bring salvation to the world so he succeeded.

    • denise Morris

      No, he’s doing exactly as Christ himself would have done, by loving all, even hose who are even his enemies. Obviously you don’t take Christ’s teachings literally

  • marlio

    I’m afraid that this pope is The False Prophet and is, or will be the head of The New World Order. I think the 1958 election of the Pope was interfered with as the cardinals were leaving the chapel and when the cardinals found out the new pope was Guiseppi Sari of Genoa, (Pope Gregory XVII) certain cardinals threatened his life and others with the threat of a bomb. So he did not take the Seat of Saint Peter and after several more days, Pope John Paul XXIII was elected. It is my opinion that the Holy Spirit decides who will be pope through the cardinals and had already chosen Father Sari. I do not think The Holy Spirit abides by the will of man and remained inside the body of Father Sari. So in essence, that means, as of now, to me, all the popes since Pope Pius XII are Anti Popes. I used to worry quite alot about this for years, but have decided that Jesus already knows all about this and to not worry. Most Catholics are not as well read as I am, and are unaware of this incident.

    • Paul

      Maybe you should read the Word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ instead, for God did not give us a spirit of fear (or worry).
      And you still wish to be a Catholic why???

      • marlio

        I am just a realist, read alot and refuse to keep my head buried in the sand, in light of how much the Church has changed since Vatican II and that we are using the Novus Order Mass. I also do not like the overture the Church has made to the muslims because I do not believe they pray to the true God. Their Allah had no son as God did through the Holy Spirit and Mary. I believe this Pope is most likely an anti pope and he insulted Christianity by saying The Cross was a failure because it most certainly wasn’t. God tells us to be aware of signs as well as wars and rumors of wars. If you are certain of your faith, then you will not worry. As I said, I;m no longer worrying about it.

        • bianca

          very well said, marlio! 🙂

        • Phony Name

          Marlio, in keeping with your desire to be a realist and not having your head buried in the sand, perhaps you might be interested in Alberto Rivera, the ex-Jesuit. He has many stunning revelations of the Catholic church origins and what it has orchestrated throughout history. There is also a series of comic books in which he allowed his interviews to be illustrated.

          Including myself, many believers have been through the cults, dead religions, churchianity, false prophets and the like sometime in our life. While the religious flesh man wants to ignore, defend and otherwise attack such revelations (John 11:48), I would hope that in your ongoing search for truth (Ps 51:6) that you might consider what Alberto has to say, as he was instrumental in exposing their works of darkness (Eph 5:11).

          In context, I am not singling out Roman Catholics, but all churches who either have strayed (2 Thes 2:3) or are deliberately misleading people (2 Pet 2:1).

          In remembering what Jesus said in John 3:3, “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God”, he did not say unless a man be a Roman Catholic, Pentecost, Anglican, Jehovah’s Witness, Mormon or any other of these denominations which are inventions and commands of men (Mat 15:9, Col 2:22) that have only brought division to God’s people (1 Cor 1:10-13).

          And again speaking of the great multitude in white robes who came out of the great tribulation in Revelation 7:9, it mentions all nations, kindreds, people and tongues. It does not say all religions and denominations, only that they washed their robes with the blood of the Lamb.

          • I agree with that.

          • Francine

            Allah cannot gave a son because allah is not real.

          • MARLIO

            Thanks phonyname, I will look up Alberto Rivera.

          • Skywatcher

            Well said, Phony Name! I might just add though, that Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, et al are NOT “denominations; they are cults. There is a huge difference.

        • Edwitness

          Marlio,
          The Catholic Catechism says Muslims worship the same God the Catholics do.
          841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”330
          How can you call yourself a Catholic when you don’t agree with the approved doctrine of the monolith?

          I also noticed in another comment you made that you don’t believe Catholics pray to Mary. Then what do you call this?

          “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, PRAY FOR US SINNERS, NOW AND AT THE HOUR OF OUR DEATH, Amen.”
          And this;
          “Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of mercy,
          our life, our sweetness and our hope.
          TO THEE DO WE CRY, poor banished children of Eve:
          TO THEE DO WE SEND UP OUR SIGHS,
          mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
          Turn then, most gracious Advocate,
          THINE EYES OF MERCY TOWARD US,
          and after this our exile,
          show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
          O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Amen.”

          I’m sure that anyone else would call these prayers.
          I’m sure you know they are too.

          • Edwitness – The Hail Mary is taken directly from the Bible (Luke) and is a prayer to ask Mary to help us – just as I might ask my neighbour to pray for me or you might ask your friend to pray for you – nothing sinister here. It is always said alongside the Lord’s prayer (Matthew). Please also read ‘Crossing the threshold of hope’ by Pope John Paul II and you will see that whilst Catholics say Muslims get it right when they profess faith in the one God of Creation, they get it very, very wrong when it comes to what God has revealed to us in Scripture (and I will ask you too, to prayer for our Muslim brothers and sisters on this!)

    • Donald

      Pope is the beast in the of REVELATIONS the beast of the earth

      • Clint

        He is the false prophet, I believe, not the Beast. The unholy trinity is the Beast, the Antichrist and the false prophet.

  • Sueawatcher

    He is the false prophet, no doubt in my mind. I knew this visit would be revealing. When he spoke of Jesus and his death on the cross as a failure that was the final nail in this false prophets coffin.

    • Wendy

      I absolutely agree with you!!!
      Goofy as it may sound, I own 2 cats. When they ate truly bothered by something (rarely), they will hiss.

      The pope makes me want to hiss at him as well! I dunno….maybe you need to be a cat person to understand…..

      • GWA

        Hello my beautiful sister in Christ! I understand but was unable to “hiss” because first off I shouted “NO WAY” then my mouth dropped open after I recovered from that I cried. Hissing will be done ever so soon!
        From one “cat lady” to another. GOD BLESS YOU!

  • Matt

    Wake up, world! Wake up fast! Don’t bite the lure this Pope is trying to feed you. He’ll drag you down and drown you. Jesus is the real lifeboat. Accept Him while there’s still time.

  • Freddie Sealey

    Pope made a mistake in that he used the wrong figure of speech. It should have been “metaphorically speaking”, not “humanly speaking”.

    • And I gotta a bridge to sell you!

  • Marie

    Geoffrey ,I am so blessed with your ministry. You are an eye opener used by God in Christ to show us on what is really happening ,for Truth to prevail. ..Speaking of this pope,he has a mission to bring more followers with him to the gates of hell as much as he could and many will be deceived .He mocked Jesus and the Cross publicly,a blasphemer .It is not a surprise ,but a horrible entity . I pray his message will open up the eyes of the Diehard Catholics. They are so difficult to be witness upon the Truth of the Word.

    • Thank you so much, glad you are standing with us in these last days!

  • How do I know that the cross was a gigantic success? Because the One who hanged upon it is God the Son in the flesh: the Lamb of God slain from before the foundation of the world to make atonement for sin once and for all. Glory to God forevermore? Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!!!

  • Robert

    LUKE 11
    27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.

    28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

  • TeresaB

    http://www.infowars.com/meet-the-communists-praised-by-the-pope-in-his-congressional-address/

    During Pope Francis’ address to Congress in joint session, four names were given by the pontiff as examples of honorable American people. The first two are well-known, Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr, but most people aren’t familiar with the other two, Thomas Merton and Dorothy Day. Most would be shocked at the real truth behind this subtle stunt by the Jesuit Pope to promote his Marxist agenda.

    • Tusitala

      Amen !!

    • Skywatcher

      TeresaB: Please enlighten us!

  • The thing is, we all have free will, the failure is on those
    who do not accept the salvation offered by Jesus Christ !

    Col 2:14-15KJV
    Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was
    against us, which was contrary to us, and took it
    out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
    15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he
    made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them
    in it.

    The victory was at the cross ! ! !

    Peace !

    • Assie Van der Westhuizen

      Ammmmmmmmen!!!

  • John

    Uno tendría que preguntarse si este Papa Francisco I es Satanás en persona, porque hay mucha evidencia bíblica y extrabíblica.

    http://www.ultimoconteo(punto)org

    • Jenny

      Whattie whattie?

  • Tim

    Are you kidding? Really? Is this the way you understand his statement?

    What he was saying (and please read it again and you will see) is that sometimes it seems like our hard work is a failure…and that is the way the lost world looks at Christ’s work on the cross. But it was really a victory.

    I think most people with an sixth day education could see this.

    • Right, in my article I make your point – BUT – Pope Francis only presented defeated, and then he LEFT YOU THERE. SO he did not preach victory at the cross, he preached defeat. The listener should not be left to INFER what he “real meaning” was. All the fault lies with the Pope. But I don’t give him the benefit of the doubt anymore because I know he is the False Prophet….

      • Wendy

        As you know, the Catholic crucifix portrays Jesus STILL DEAD ON THE CROSS!! (Makes me nuts!)

        JESUS IS RISEN AND IS SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD THE FATHER…..But they prefer Him still nailed to the tree.

        • Obsydian

          St. Paul would say,

          “May I never boast of anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world” (Gal. 6:14).

          Thus, we see the value of the Catholic practice of placing an image of Our Lord upon crosses to form the image of the Crucifix.
          It is a means by which we “preach Christ crucified” and show forth “the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1 Cor. 1:23)

          • Igan

            You present the crucifix and a lot of Mary’s images. Parade Mary’s images and all other images. That’s what i’m seeing all throughout the world. Why is that it’s not all about Jesus anymore if that’s what the Bible is claiming for – “except the cross of our Lord”? Why it has to be with mary, with a lot of saints now?

          • Jenny

            Obsydian,

            Interesting screen name.

            A person cannot see through this particular rock. Prophetic, perhaps?

            Jenny

          • Drew

            Paul said boast “the cross OF our Lord Jesus Christ”…Paul did NOT say, boast the Lord Jesus Christ ON the cross.

            Keith Green had it right when he said about the Catholic Church, “Never has something so black and wicked, gotten away with appearing so holy and mysteriously beautiful . . . for so long!”

            Check out the Catholic Chronicles by Keith Green, which reveals the false Catholic doctrines for the wicked doctrines they are.

      • Hi Geoffrey,

        Well said, both in your post and in this comment! I was so stunned to hear those words regarding “Jesus… and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.” No wonder 0zero likes Francis!

        I linked to your post at my blog!

        Talk Wisdom: What Did Pope Francis Say?

      • Skywatcher

        Brother, Geoffrey, is there some way that peoples’ replies can be linked to the people they’re responding to? Otherwise, it gets confusing to know who is “amening” who, or who is disagreeing with whom. I’m sure this is something that your techie can “fix” in short order.

        Thank you, and many blessings!

        • I completely agree. This commenting design needs an update.

        • Edwitness

          Skywatcher,
          When you reply place the person’s name at the start of it. Your reply will show up in their inbox and they you and they will know it is a reply to you.
          Blessings:-}

    • Dale

      Yeah, that’s the way I read that. And mind ya, I’m no fan of the Pope, nor Catholicism in general.

    • John

      First thing you only use the word an before a word that starts with a vowel. Second thing that would be a sixth grade education not day. Finally if he meant that it was a victory, all Christians know it was, then he should have said it was instead of leaving it as a failure. Now not only does he sound retarded he also looks retarded.

    • Drew

      No, he did not imply anything to lead anyone to believe the cross was a success, let alone blatantly say such. The Pope clearly said it was a failure, and even added “humanly speaking”, therefore claiming Jesus’s work on the cross a failure(essentially His life period). Which goes along with the false teaching of the Catholics that Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross was not enough once and for all. This is why Catholics attempt to re-crucify Christ all the time, over and over, such wickedness. Let’s pray for Catholics to find the truth!

      I’m thankful Jesus’s work on the cross is the greatest success!

      And Geoffrey, I know we have disagreements, mainly with OSAS, but I don’t doubt you love the Lord and follow Christ. You’re a good watchmen, keep it up.

    • Igan

      Really, that’s why they are praying more to Mary than to Jesus? Really? Jesus, according to him was a “failure” while they are teaching Mary has no sin. Raally? Isn’t that enough for you to be convinced?

    • Lynn

      Tim you are absolutely right! All you have to do is pay attention to his words and the meaning is clear. You don’t have to “infer” anything. It’s clearly stated.
      The cross shows us a DIFFERENT WAY OF MEASURING SUCCESS. Ours is to plant the seeds. God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works SEEM TO FAIL and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, HUMANLY SPEAKING (in other words from the worlds perspective), ended in failure, the failure of the cross.
      It’s so clear that he is saying from the world’s perspective Jesus was defeated when He was killed, but the cross (and the Bible) shows us a different perspective. He is definitely not saying that Jesus was defeated or the cross was a failure. I think he could have added that the cross was the ultimate victory for clarity, but even without it, his message was clear in it’s context. There’s so much to disagree with in the traditions of the Catholic Church and the Pope’s political agenda that we don’t need to create issues by spinning his words on things he’s got right. I think it makes Christian’s look foolish.

    • Chicagobluesgirl

      Tim,
      I’m with you. I believe that IS how he meant it. Too bad, with the microphone to the entire world, he didn’t follow up with your simply stated sentence, “But it was really a victory.” and “Here’s why.”

  • Larry /vietnamvet1971

    The ONLY failure is the Deceived Evil pope and his Failed message of NO HOPE to any one that listens to him.

  • Elaine

    Interesting……….let’s see if I have this right?
    1. Francis has Muslim brothers and sisters, REALLY!
    2. Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.
    3. Francis proclaims to be the vicar of Christ on earth, does this mean he is a failure? If so, I wholeheartedly agree
    4. Catholics claim they do not worship Mary yet he states this:
    “Dear brothers and sisters, in a few moments, we will sing the Magnificat. Let us commend to our lady the work we have been entrusted to do. Let us join her in thanking god for the great things he has done.”
    5. Francis asked them to join a dead lady in singing.
    I suggest they inform their pope!

    Even so,come, Lord Jesus. Watching and praying!

  • Heather

    Actually everything that our Lord Jesus accomplished at the cross became a failure for Satan and all his minions. Including the Vatican, The Holy See, The Jesuits, and the lengthy list that goes on and on.
    The Lord God Almighty REIGNS. He is King of kings and Lord of lords. For all who have been born again and have been washed in the blood of the Lamb, we’ve already won and have victory through Jesus! And they can’t stand to hear this!

  • RobiMac

    This really should come as no shock to anyone, even me. But, nonetheless, I am flabbergasted. Everything that all popes have ever uttered have always been blasphemies

    The only thing that we can take comfort in is the fact that the false prophet, along with the antichrist will be thrown into the lake of fire when the KING comes and touches down on Mt Zion.

    • Heather

      Amen RobiMac! God bless you brother!

  • Alicia

    No surprise. Look back at the history of the Catholic church & you will see that salvation, for Catholics, was labor intensive & not free. People, it has always been about control.

    • Stephen

      I was pleading with a man on his death bed to trust in Jesus Christ for Salvation but in anguish he said he couldn’t because he was a Catholic.

      • I have more than a few times asked someone if they are a Christian and their answer was “No, I’m a Catholic.”

        • And that’s the HONEST answer to that question. It’s called the Roman CATHOLIC church, not the Roman Christian church….

        • Jenny

          Walt,

          Me too! It’s a get out of jail free card! I cringe!!

          Jenny

  • Suez

    I didn’t expect anything good to come from his mouth, so I guess I’m not surprised. What would you expect the devil to say????

  • fanby

    Humanly speaking is metaphorical. Comparing the flesh and the spirit. How many people here believe in Jesus Christ and follow his teachings? Those who do follow him, how many of them do not question themselves about the reality of their faith. Most part of the scripture is written in parables meaning indirect speaking terms.A lot of people really need to ready more, travel more, inquiry more and love more.Instead of judge more because some person explains someone else’s comment to soothe themselves. If you have issues with the pope’s sermon, write him and express your concern. Let him teach you to your understanding.

    • Penny

      THE pope IS ANTICHRIST…HE IS THE FALSE PROPHET…..HE TEACHES AND SPEAKS LIES WITH A FORKED TONGUE….

    • Wendy

      The TRUTH is not “relative”, fanby. YOU SAID: “Let him teach you to your understanding.” It’s not “my truth”, it’s not “his truth”, which is different.
      I believe the Bible.why would I want a known liar to try and turn me away from it???

  • Penny

    I AM LITERALLY SPEECHLESS….WHOM EVER HE IS…HE IS OF SATAN AND NOT THE ONE TRUE GOD…AND BY HIM DENYING CHRIST AT THE CROSS AND BROWN NOSING THE MUSLIM ANTICHRIST BUNCH….I TOTALLY AGREE…THE FALSE PROPHET SPOKE BEFORE THE U.N. YESTERDAY…HE JUST KICKED THINGS UP A NOTCH………A BIG NOTCH…

  • Patrick

    Looking at this post, and all these comments, I don’t think the Pope was wrong. You self righteous, holier than thou, judgemental hypocrites. You are not worthy to pass judgement or spread dissent, you take away from God and Christ in doing so. So yes, you become the reason that makes what Christ did for us less than it should be.

    • Penny

      R E A D HIS WORDS!!

    • Wendy

      Sorry Patrick…it is RIGHT to warn others of a wolf in sheep’s clothing. “Self-righteousness” does not come into play here;
      WISDOM does.

    • Tusitala

      @Patrick “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.” Luke 6: 41-42

  • Char

    Geoffrey (or anybody else that might know). Do you think that the Pope will become supernatural during the tribulation since he’s already 78, but I know he can certainly live another 7 years easily, but I just wondered if he’s supposed to be just human or taken over by Satan and becomes supernatural.

    • Yes, I personally believe that when the day arrives, they will receive a supernation indwelling of the spirit needed to fulfill their destiny. That’s how it went with Judas the first time,and how I believe it will go the second time: “And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.” John 13:27 (KJV). Please read this about Judas: http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=35559

  • The Infidel

    I have had Muslims tell me that Allah is the same as the God of Moses, same as the God of the Jews and the same as the Christian God. But they know that Allah is their (pagan)moon god.

  • JustMe

    I’m so surprised to see how shallow minded some people are especially when it comes to interpreting what other people said. All of you are just making a fuss here over nothing. It’s either you are haters or just too shallow minded that you don’t even understand simple use of words. Let’s look at those statements critically:
    1) The pope called the Muslims his brothers: Even Jesus said that your brothers and neighbors are those around us and not necessarily those related to us by blood or who practice the same religion so anybody who has failed to see and understand this and is trying to interpret it from the point of view of Allah not having a son is either short sighted or does not know anything about Christianity himself
    2)”humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.” : In this place it is clearly obvious that he meant the way humans would see it(“Humanly speaking”). In the present world many people consider that if you are a true worshiper of God or a serious devotee of any religion then God will bless you with wealth or at least provide you with things to live a good life so it is obvious that “humanly speaking” a death on the cross for someone who claims to be the son of God himself is a total failure.
    So people you have to learn to read in between the lines before interpreting peoples’ statements(this off course only applies to those who are not naturally haters). I also implore those who might loose Faith in their beliefs because of this type of posts and comments to stay steadfast in their Faith and not allow such shallow thing like this sway them. Finally I want to make everyone understand that I’m not saying the pope is perfect; surely as a human he is liable to make mistakes but we should not criticize him and call him all sorts of names even when he has done nothing wrong. First look at your own daily life before criticizing others. Greetings to all!

    • Jewel

      So, did the pope appoint you as an interpreter of what he meant?

      To me, it is quite clear of what he meant by what he said.

  • Sarah

    I fully respect all opinions held towards the pope and what he had to say in this supposedly ‘alarming’ speech. In saying so, I do believe some claims made in this article have been taken out of context. When the pope said that the death of Jesus was a failure, many of you missed the part where he said ‘humanly apeaking’ in other words, the pooe is actually alluding to the fact that many humans who did not believe in Jesus at the time of His death believed His crucifixion was a sign of His defeat. Lets take these words at face value and not just cherry pick the parts of what He said to suit our personal agendas or preconceptions that the pope is bad. Also, the pope’s initiative to invite people of other religions into the church and into a Godly atmosphere is actually admirable. Think of what Jesus would do and how He would treat those who were against Him and did not believe in Him. What beter way to bring non-believers to Jesus than to openly invite them to church?

  • Nick

    hmmm lot of Pontiff bashing here by folks who really didn’t read or understand what was said. I think the magic words which so many of you seemed to miss were “Humanly speaking”. His statement further cements the understanding that Jesus was a man just like we are, and in the end he surcame to death just as we would. The triumph, the success is all way bigger than just the human side. As for his “shout-out” to his Muslum brothers, sad that you so called Christians don’t see it for what it is, grieving with a religion who just lost 700 people( death toll now close to 2000), and you want to call yourselves Christians, how sad

    • Kate

      Yes, they are obviously all too busy thinking humanly, to be able to even understand what it is that the Pope said.

      To the human carnal mind the cross resulted in death, which by them would be seen as a failure.

      However when we put our minds upon the spiritual, believers know what the Cross is. The perfect sacrifice and ultimate victory over physical death for those who believe and accept Christ’s free gift.

      Read with understanding people.

      • Suek

        Too bad the Pope didn’t say what you just said, instead of letting the sentence dangle…

      • Tusitala

        We did read with complete understanding everything Francis said… and it was very revealing, as well as being absolutely in line with Biblical prophecy. Thank You, Jesus, for Your inerrant Word.

    • What happened in Mecca is certainly a tragedy, but Allah-worshipping Muslims are not my “brothers and sisters”. And no, the Pope said the “cross was a FAILURE” and then he STOPPED discussing it. Shall we not take him at his word?

      • Jan

        As a former and extremely devout R.C. I was asked a series of questions by my employer, a Cardiologist/Internist who taught senior high Sunday School. He had his questions and his notebook handy and began with
        #1 Who is Jesus Christ

        • Jan

          Geoffrey,
          As a former and extremely devout R.C. I was asked 6 questions by my employer, a Cardiologist/Internist who taught a senior high Sunday School class. He had his notebook and began writing the answers I gave him – – giving me no comment or telling me what he believed. Two of the questions he asked me were ones I asked my priest and had some deep discussions over. Two of the 6 questions that the doctor asked me were “Why did Jesus Christ Die? and the other was, “Where will you spend eternity”. I will elaborate on the question of why Jesus died. I said, “I think it was totally unnecessary for Jesus to die. It was really very stupid because since He was the Son of God and could perform miracles, all He had to do was snap His fingers and say, ‘sins of the world begone!’ As far as I was concerned, Jesus did not HAVE to die at all.”
          The doctor wrote this down and made no comment.
          The other question that always bugged me was where will I spend eternity. I told the doctor that since I had no mortal sins on my soul I would go to Pergatory if I were to die at that moment. He made no comment as he wrote that down. After I answered the other 4 questions, he wrote them down, closed his notebook and left for the day. Those questions haunted me all night long and I didn’t get much sleep. I wondered what this very good Baptist man believed. Did he believe the same and I? I was very curious and so the next day when he arrived at the office and we had time before the first patient arrived, I asked him the same questions. “Why do you think Jesus Christ had to die,” I asked. How happy I was when he told me that Jesus Christ did not HAVE to die at all. He paused long enough for me to say, “I knew it, I knew it!!” Here was someone who was on my side. It didn’t last very long because he said, “Jesus Christ willing LAID DOWN HIS LIFE FOR ME AS THOUGH I WAS THE ONLY PERSON ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Jesus Christ died in my place for my sins. The sinless Son of God willing took the place I deserved on that cross and paid for ALL my sins. He who never sinned took the punishment that I deserved and paid the price I could never pay for.” He told me that he could never pay for his sins because the sacrifice needed called for a sinless man, and since the Word of God, the Bible, said that ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God, he was disqualified. The only Person Dr. Art knew who was sinless was God’s Son, Jesus Christ. Doctor also told me that the wages (payment) of sin was death, but that the gift of God was eternal life. I wanted that gift in the worst way, and not long after our conversation I did give my life to Jesus Christ – – I not only received His free gift (what I referred to as my ticket into heaven) but I made Jesus the Lord of my life. That was 59 years ago and I have NEVER doubted that He became my Savior and Lord. It’s been the most joyous & rewarding life I could ever have imagined!
          In case you’re curious,that second questions the doctor answered was “where will YOU spend eternity”. I really expected him to tell me that he hoped he would go to heaven or that he was trying to lead a good enough life, but without hesitation, he said, “heaven”. I had never met anyone who knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that he/she was going to heaven. He explained to me that since Jesus Christ had paid for his sins by grace though an act of sincere faith on his part, he had the assurance that to be absent from his body will be present with the lord. Dr. Art is with his Lord and Savior as I type, and I will be there someday soon to again say “thank you for answering my questions with the authority of Almighty God from His Word, the Bible”.
          If you are curious about the other 4 questions, I will tell you but won’t go into detail. 1.) Who is Jesus Christ? 2.)Are you a Sinner? 3.) How are Your Sins Forgiven? 4.) What is Your Authority for Your Answers to These Questions?
          MARANATHA!! Titus 2:13 Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus!

          • BR

            @Jan – what a wonderful testimony.

            I wonder where that cardiologist is today 🙂 and if he knows how his love and witness for Jesus has echoed through the decades, through you, and how many brothers and sisters are/will be in heaven because of you both. Maranatha.

          • Awesome! Thank you for sharing this! 🙂

    • Skywatcher

      Nick, with all due respect, what you need to realize is that a Christian is being crucified or decapitated EVERY 5 minutes in the Muslim world! They show NO mercy. Thousands upon thousands of Christians are being brutalized daily with the Vatican’s blessing, but NOTHING is said about that in the pope’s message or on the mainstream news!

      Lately, it’s all about the plight of the poor Muslims! Meanwhile, peace-loving Muslims who have moved to the “free world” are begging our governments NOT to allow these Muslim “refugee” savages into the country. Why? They said, “We came to your country for peace and freedom to choose! We came here hoping to leave that behind! They are now bringing Islam to your country.”

      Nick, if you are a Christian, you need to ask the Holy Spirit to open your eyes so you can discern what is really going on here! It’s just NOT a natural thing to be able to bless those who are killing our beloved brothers and sisters in Christ, for merely being a REAL Christian. We need to stand up against messages such as the pope is delivering; these are theological heresy and very biased toward Islam or anything that ISN’T Christian.

  • How does the pope command the attention and approval of millions when he teaches this way?

    • Tusitala

      I can promise you that the vast majority of the people who approve of and revere Francis have never read the King James Bible. If they had they would realize the depth of the apostasy in the Roman “church” and the heresies against the Lord God that this “vicar” has promulgated. This papal trip has brought into full focus how the entire world will be so easily enslaved by the Antichrist. Dear Jesus, we await Your return with such joy!

    • Jan

      Sandy, when we look around and observe history, we hear and see people following after, what is obvious to us, phony shepherds. Just one example is David Karesch. (not sure of spelling) I could name many more and so could you. People are spiritually hungry but are looking in all the wrong places to fill their needs. Also, they think that material things or some person will fill that empty space in their life. Only until a person is born again of the spirit can he know what he so desperately needs in life. Until that happens, he will follow almost anyone who makes him feel good, or who gives him a warm fuzzy feeling with smooth words. The Word of God, the Bible tells us that before we have Jesus, the good Shepherd in our life, we are like sheep wondering around, turning every which way looking for someone to lead us. You can understand how vulnerable someone like that can be, and how easily he can fall into that trap of trusting the wrong shepherd. Without spiritual discernment, we all can fall into that trap. We need the mind of Christ and we need to be in His Word daily. I am amazed and appalled when I hear someone call the pope HOLY FATHER, however it seems to go right over the heads of his sheep. We are not to call ANYONE Father, let alone HOLY FATHER. Again, as I said, when a person is born again of the spirit, he is given discernment from the Holy Spirit, and will not give to any other created being that title which belongs only to our One, True, Living God. Jesus said, “I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by Me”. Praise God that we CAN KNOW the Way, and can be sure that we are following the right and true Shepherd, the Lord Jesus Christ.

      • bremertonchristian

        I think you should research the Waco Texas standoff before accusing anyone of anything.

  • Marian

    When did the pope mention the Resurrection of Jesus? And that belief in Him is the only way to salvation? And that repentance of sins is necessary for salvation?
    His failure to talk about these things makes me believe he wanted to leave the audience with the impression that the cross represents failure. If the pope were some uneducated, inarticulate person I could accept his omissions as just communication breakdown.

    • Jewel

      Spot On! The pope left this critical core issue of the Christian faith out, because it would offend muslums in attendance, who do not believe God had a Son, as Jesus, God’s only begotten Son did. On the contrary, the cross was a victory for Jesus over death, sin and satan and gives all who confess Jesus as Lord and believes in their heart that God raised Him from the dead eternal salvation. Amen. Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

    • Skywatcher

      Marian, you and others on this site are soooo correct! He wanted to leave the impression that Christ’s work of atonement on the cross was a “failure”. The fact that they wear and carry crucifixes is a VERY STRONG indicator that they do NOT know, worship, love or regard the Christ of the Holy Bible. Their Christ is still dead; ours is resurrected and coming back to call us home soon! I’ve read almost all of the comments on here so far, and am amazed that nobody has picked up on this! Also, the word, “god” in his speech was not capitalized… their god is Rah, the Sun god, as evidenced on the robes of the priests, on banners in their churches, and in ALL R.C. artistry! Ever notice the halos surrounding the “Holy Family”, the baby Jesus, the adult Jesus, the cross, etc.? These are NOT halos representing holiness, rather, they represent Rah! I hope I’m spelling that correctly! It is after midnight here and I’m getting tired. Islam worships Allah, the moon god; the R.C. cult worships Rah, the sun god! But praise be to the name of Almighty God ~ He is the one and only true God and He governs the affairs of us all if we let Him!

  • Sharon

    I am NOT Catholic. I do not follow Pope Francis. I am a Christian. And I am a writer. I research before I write. This research includes quotes from time to time. I learned how to quote IN CONTEXT. It would serve you well to do the same.

    • Skywatcher

      Sharon, sometimes it is what we DON’T say that matters the most! Francis could’ve had all the time in the world to say what he wanted to say. After all…he runs the world. Therefore, nobody was there pointing their finger at the clock putting the pressure on him to leave out the blessed hope of the Church…the resurrection!

      His message was poignantly clear; the majority of commentators on this blog are on target. He left much out of his address to Congress that really needed to be said also. When you connect the dots…he’s not the Prince of Peace! To the rest, I encourage you to take a few minutes to look up the oaths of a Jesuit as well as the oath of a pope! Be prepared to be shocked! Like the Muslims, he views non-catholics as “infidels” and he has pledged to kill us! Strong words I know, but don’t shoot the messenger; it’s there for all to see. Doug Bachelor does a great expose on YouTube on this topic. I’m not a Seventh Day Adventist, but I must give credit where credit is due. Doug did a superb job, as does John MacArthur!

  • Wijaya

    This pope is the anti christ undercover.He supports RFID 666.

  • Lizette

    Humanly speaking, the cross did end in failure. From the human perspective, the cross is failure. From a divine perspective or through the eyes of faith, the cross is grandeur, salvation, and death itself dies. The Pope was absolutely correct.
    Also, the muslim faith descended from Ishmael, son of Abraham. Abraham of course father of Isaac. You do the math.

    • Yes, Ishmael was the bastard son of Abraham, whom God kicked out. Abraham conceived Ishmael in sin and rebellion to God’s promises. That grain of sin has blossomed into the Satanic hordes of Islam, who are the #1 source of evil and terrorism in the world today.

      So YOU do the math 🙂

  • Anthony

    You could take the paragraph in question as a basic English comprehension test. The author failed. The paragraph begins with the statement that the cross offers a different standard of success. It’s obvious that the “failure” of the cross he talks about is what it appears to be in the merely human standard. The cross transcends that.

    If someone has heard exactly this point before in sermons, failure to understand it in this case seems like a willful, malicious misinterpretation.

  • To the alleged scholars amongst us !

    1 Cor 2:1-2 KJV
    And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with
    excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto
    you the testimony of God.
    2 For I determined not to know any thing among you,
    save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

    The lost do not view Jesus death on the cross as a
    failure, they regard the cross and all of Christianity
    as foolishness ! That includes all religions, otherwise
    they would convert. How does Islam regard the cross,
    never happened right ? It’s foolishness to them ! As
    the bible has indicated for all unbelievers !

    1 Cor 2:14 KJV
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit
    of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he
    know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    1 Cor 1:18 KJV
    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish
    foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power
    of God.

    Paul preached Christ crucified and regarded knowledge
    that he had acquired before his conversion as dung !
    He was well aware of what unbelievers thought of the
    cross !

    1 Cor 1:23 KJV
    But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a
    stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

    As for the pope who worships Mary and has himself
    surrounded by idols contrary to what the bible says
    not to do, should not presume that unbelievers view
    the cross as a failure ! They don’t believe any of it,
    well not the biblical truth anyway !

    The greatest victory that any man has ever achieved
    was on that CROSS ! His name is Jesus ! And he has
    risen !

  • Sean westbrook

    to bad the author of this article and most of the ignorant religious zealots that made some bold asinine statement about the pope(the vessel of God for the people btw) are aligned with an ideology of trickle down economics, money and greed. It really is sad to think we still have people living in this country that cares more about their own narcissistic malignant nature than that of others.
    Seems quite strange to be speaking about religion which I feel is a complete mental drain on society! Also it’s very interesting that this author is so far off in the zealot/extremist realm he believed he himself to be Jesus’ understudy and that the pope is merely some old creep socialist. Case in point Mr. Crider is unable to wrap his little peanut brain around the though

    • Heather

      Yes, the pope is a vessel, thats for sure. A vessel to Satan!

    • Skywatcher

      To Sean Westbrook,

      You’re right! The pope is a “socialist” and you shall reap the benefits of his labors in short order. Again you are correct: the pope is definitely a “vessel” ~ a chamber pot! If you feel that religion “is a complete mental drain on society”, why are you on this site? You have set yourself up to be the judge and executioner, by sounds of your comments.

  • truthmatters

    Pope Francis declared the work of Jesus on the cross to be a failure.Which for me is no surprise .The catholic doctrine proclaim works increase one justification .The individual merit favor from God by doing catholic things .Which may I add is absolutely 100 percent the road to hell . The poor catholic in hell thinking soon I be out of purgatory . This belief of purgatory is a call of Jesus failed to cleanse us from all unrighteousness as 1 john 1 9 says he does .http://chick.com/reading/tracts/1085/1085_01.asp

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  • Sean westbrook

    to bad the author of this article and most of the ignorant religious zealots that made some bold asinine statement about the pope(the vessel of God for the people
    btw) are aligned with an ideology of trickle down economics, money and greed. It really is sad to think we still have people living in this country that care more about their own narcissistic malignant nature than that of others.
    Seems quite strange to be speaking about religion which I feel is a complete mental drain on society! Also it’s very interesting that this author is so far off in the zealot/extremist realm he believed he himself to be Jesus’ understudy and that the pope is merely some old creep socialist. Case in point Mr. Crider is unable to wrap his little peanut brain around the thought that perhaps the pope is following his understanding of what God wanted from Jesus unto his people. Im sure it is difficult to exist and to coexist with strange ethnicities, races or sexual preferences, from all around the world when your entire ideology was engrained from birth to to hate, animosity and bigotry. Let us hope that one we can extend our hands and embrace the Arab nation! Drill baby drill! Bomb d’d’ bomb d’d bomb bomb Iran! Republics United to take back this country and turn it back into a intolerant, women hating, immigration deportation nation. Thank, good night.

    • 1 Tim 2:5
      For there is one God, and one mediator between God
      and men, the man Christ Jesus;

      Sorry, it’s not the pope !

    • Larry /vietnamvet1971

      to bad you rush in here and are so Zealous to set us Right.

      Your Ramblings make no sense and you are way out in left field all alone with your pope to bad you have to have a Mere Mortal man to tell you how to live & what to Think that is called Brain Washing. How long have you been DEAD (Spiritually)?

      Here is his real name: Geoffrey Grider

    • Matt

      You realize if we “embraced” Arab ideology, that would turn many a nation into woman-hating, child-raping, intolerant nations, right?

      And religion a drain on society? You do realize Christianity is behind the formations of many hospitals, charities, universities and medicinal advances, right? And you do realize the Bible is jam-packed with proven historicity, right? The Book of Acts alone has nearly 100 historically verified facts. It’s one of the most well-attested historical records of the ancient world, and Acts is a wonderful witness that Jesus is God.

      There’s nothing ignorant about Christianity. It has an incredible foundation built on faith, facts, and history. And judging by your sneering, sardonic comments, I hope you’ll look into Jesus and accept Him. You need Him. We all do.

    • Jenny

      Sean,

      I’m praying for you, in Jesus Name.

      Jenny

  • Liz

    Take off your colored glasses and go back and slowly read what the Pope said and you’ll see he is not saying that Jesus ‘ sacrifice was a failure. He’s saying that’s how the people saw it.

  • Walkintruth

    The Pope also compared immigration to what Moses did freeing God’s people. Another comment was that the earth was an entity. That is Gia worship.

  • Scott Denard

    The one thing you failed to mention is the pray off of all the faiths at the 9/11 memorial. This Pope has violated the Commandment :thou shalt not worship any other Gods by desecrating God’s house with these prayers and making a joke of worshipping the ONE TRUE GOD. He has validated every religion and Jesus said there can be only one true way to the Father through Jesus Christ. The Pope has nothing to fear from evil because Satan wants the Pope to lead as many to hell as he can and then he might martyr him to concrete his false teachings into the church. The Pope is definitely trying to build a one-world religion for the anti-Christ.

  • Whe Jesus said to Peter I give u the keys to the kingdom it did not say nor mean Peter was the “pope” of anything esp a cult as catholocism. It was a spiritual command to carry the message of salvation to the lost.

  • God is in control! The Pope will stand in judgement just like the rest of us. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess. And if your still here after the rapture ….better for you to have your head cut off than to take the mark of the beast. The stage is being set. Keep looking up!

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  • Heather

    John 14:6 (KJV)

    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    Are we going to see to any Pastor’s come out and protest these abominable acts of the “coexisting” group at the mass at ground zero? The pope loved watching all these groups praying to their god’s. This is an ABOMINATION to the ONE and ONLY GOD. The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob! Where is your voice Franklin Graham? Where are you men of courage? Nothing but silence. Can we hear the pin drop?
    Thank you Geoffrey! At least you have the courage to speak out and thank you for using your ministry to do so!

  • RenMan

    you’re skipping over the very important qualifier: “humanly speaking”

    and yes that is a perfect summation of the “foolishness” of the cross.

    for in HUMAN eyes Christ WAS A FAILURE — I mean get real — let yourself be killed because of some psychopathic messiah complex where you have deluded yourself and others into believing you will “save” the world — and worse yet somehow guarantee immortal life — by your death! As Bugs Bunny would say “What a maroon!” Yes, by HUMAN interpretation the cross was a dead end and any who ended up there were total failures! The pope is most certainly true in asserting that. To their contemporaries the early Christians and Apostles were seen as failures, why even criminals, to be crucified, and made the point of bloodsport (gladiators, lions, tigers and bears – oh, my!) Failures all in HUMAN eyes.

    and here it comes….the big B U T …….

    But those early “failures” — those early seeds watered with the blood of martyrs — BLOSSOMED and did produce FRUIT — fruits of the Spirit and of God’s divine plan in God’s good time. In GOD’s plan, in GOD’s time, they are measured as SUCCESS.

    remember — any seed has to be a total failure — it has to DIE first, drop from it’s life-sustaining home and fall to the dirt, be buried, and then — only then — can new life begin (mirrors nicely how Christ had to descend from heaven, die, be buried, and then rise victorious over death, to reascend to heaven from whence we await His return to gather us and all the faithful again to our heavenly home.)

    Can you image what Paul, Peter, James, John, Luke, Matthew, Mark, Mary, Martha, and Mother Mary would think if they could see how far the Gospel has spread and how the church is today (and I’m sure some of it would be even more hard-hitting condemnatory than anything we’ve heard from the pope or the church’s outside critics. Why I could envision them rising up as Christ did in the temple to cast out the “vipers”)

    Even today, many — and sadly a growing number — claim that Christ was “but a man”, a deluded man. That while he may have had an interesting “philosophy” and offered a good “moral code”, he was no savior, he was a fool to allow himself to be killed, he was just a man. That is the HUMAN way of thought.

    But the DIVINE way, GOD’s WAY, reveals not a merely a man, but also the Son of God who was our Savior and who calls us to foolishness and to be called fools by those that can only see with the human eyes.

    yes, the verse: “1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” is correct, as is the pope.

    Christ the human world’s greatest FOOL and God’s greatest Gift of LIFE.

    1 Corinthians 13:12 — For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

  • MariTere Cantú

    I feel all u negative people including the person writting this. Need a little preaching from me.
    When he speaks 1religion. Is because he feels they that religion needs to hear this word more than the others. And when he refers to brothers and sisters, its because if u had proper parents which I see on here u all didnt. We are taught very young not to discriminate. We are all brothers and sisters. No matter the religion. Wheather or not they believe in the son of God, has no relavance to being a brother and sister.
    Its that simple.

    • Elaine Coker

      You are a delusional person. And NO, we are not all brothers and sisters. I don’t claim to be a brother or sister to anyone who beheads people and murders for the fun of it. You can claim to be brothers and sisters to these heathen, and I won’t retract my comment, if you want to but I am not. And I am not just talking about Muslims here. I also include Planned Parent hood and anyone who is for this murdering of the innocent babies. So, NO, I am a brother and a sister to those who belong to JESUS CHRIST.

      • Larry/vietnamvet1971

        I agree 100%, What does Righteousness have in common with unrighteousness? What do we as Believers have in common with unbelievers.

        NOTHING.

      • Heather

        Amen, Amen and Amen again Elaine Coker!!!!!!!!
        Many are already falling for this “oneness” lie from the pit of hell!

  • Ben

    Victory and salvation is found at the Cross!!! Only Satan and his followers could say the cross was a failure.

  • Elaine Coker

    This should be a wakeup call to those who belong to the Catholic Church that it is time to leave this cult; But that won’t happen. Most of them are brainwashed otherwise how could 54% of them have voted for Barak Obama for President twice.

  • I dont agree with all that he said, specially, praying to the virgin Mary. So absurd. But to put in perspective, this is his quote:

    “And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”

    The Point Do Not Be Discouraged!!!
    Serve, Plant, Serve, Plant again…..

    • Jewel

      The point is, Felipe, is that Jesus Christ was not a failure @ the cross because He rose on the third day, just as He said He would, conquering death, giving all who are born again of His Spirit eternal life. The pope is a fraud.

  • marlio

    Felipe for your information, Catholics dont pray to Mary, they honor her.

    • Robert

      LUKE 11
      27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.

      28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

    • Terri

      Marlio, yes Catholics do pray to Mary. Look at the rosary 10 Hail Mary’s to every Our Father prayer. The church now says that Mary is a co-redeemer with Christ.

    • Paul

      Seriously? Why then, when I was young, did a ‘priest’ hear my confession and then tell me I would be absolved of my ‘sins’ if I prayed 10 hail Marys? I still remember this blasphemous prayer at 52:
      Hail mary, full of grace, the lord is with you….blah, blah, blah.
      And why do your idols always depict a HUGE mother Mary holding the creator of the world (Jesus) as a helpless little baby???
      The Lord is not WITH her, the Lord GAVE HER BREATH.

    • Jewel

      Marlio:

      Catholics do pray to Mary, including the pope. Here is what the pope himself said (read the transcript for yourself at the link provided in the above article)

      “Dear brothers and sisters, in a few moments, we will sing the Magnificat. Let us commend to our lady the work we have been entrusted to do. Let us join her in thanking god for the great things he has done…”

      The pope is anti-Christ. No true worshipper of Jesus Christ would pray to a dead person.

      • marlio

        No we do not, we only honor her.

  • Nicolet

    Ypu people are crazy!

    • Larry /vietnamvet1971

      I most certainly agree with you 1000% we are CRAZY over our LORD, Savior, King and of course our GOD the Father in Heaven the ONE & ONLY.

    • GWA

      Thank you Nicolet. That’s just what they said to Noah as he built the ark. I am in darn good company so……thank you!

      MARANATHA

  • This guy fits the profile(?) of the False Prophet. However; I think that he is too old. But–maybe. God only knows; literally.

  • Here is the main Catholic prayer to Mary, called the “Salve, Regina”. You tell me if this is worship or not:

    “Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee to we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.”

    1). They call Mary a “Queen”, found no where in the Bible. If Mary is a Queen, then she is to be BOWED TO.
    2). They direct their prayers to Mary – “To thee to we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping…”
    3). Then they ask Mary to have mercy on them – “Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us…”

    I ask JESUS to have mercy on my soul because I worship Him. Asking MARY to have mercy on me is WORSHIP…..it is not honor, veneration or any other NONSENSE made of by the Vatican to keep you in BONDAGE.

    If you cannot see that this is WORSHIP of Mary, then you are blind. Turn from idols, worship God and fear Him alone.

    “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4 (KJV)

    • 100% worship of Mary and idols that the Catholics claim
      are their …” Friends ” ! Mary is in heaven and has no
      authority to intercede for anyone ! God never appointed
      Mary Qeen of heaven, it’s all lies ! The pope continues
      to promote this abomination, worship is for the true God
      only ! The creator of heaven and earth !

      Thanks for your time and effort Geoffry, God bless your
      ministry !…the truth is never popular is it ?

  • Jan

    Geoffrey, it’s definitely worship of Mary. As an x R.C. I always prayed to Mary. When I saw Jesus hanging on that cross over the alter I turned to Mary who looked so beautiful with her outstretched arms and thought, “Jesus can’t help me, He’s nailed to a cross. I’ll go to His mother, Mary.” It’s psychological! Why pray to a helpless Jesus who appears to be near death? Satan is not stupid and knows just how to use every opportunity he can to rob God of the glory and worship that belongs entirely to Him. He who has ears, let him hear. R.C.’s do pray to Mary and the Saints, and they know it. If they have to lie about it shouldn’t that tell them there is something wrong with the picture?

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  • carson

    seems many don’t know what the underlying inter-faithing is that’s going on within their churchs..
    people perish because of a lack of knowledge..and why, when this age is also an age of knowledge.
    Take the time to find out what’s going on.

    And the term ‘brother’, when obviously the people are not blood line relatives, means only 1 thing, they are saying that in spirit these are ‘brothers’, so to be a (supposed) believer in Christ and call those who firmly reject Christ ‘brothers’ reveals that the Christ the supposed believers preach is not THE Christ of the bible but another christ, a false christ, one that is but one of many paths to the Father and this allows those who reject Christ and are on these ‘other paths’ to be ‘brothers’.

    All big fat lie’s and a big fat NO to all that, flee this stuff and being within a church that holds this stuff or joins with others who hold these lie’s, save yourself..your soul is at stake.

    • Amen Carson, how can one be a brother of someone
      who rejects the very faith in Jesus that you have ?
      It’s Impossible when Jesus says this,…

      John 14:6 KJV
      Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and
      the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

      John 8:24 KJV
      I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
      for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

      Do you think that the pope would ever mention these
      statements made by Jesus at his interfaith gatherings ?

      Not a chance ! Interfaith is the rejection of Jesus Christ
      and the belief there is some other way !

      Your correct Carson, it’s all lies !

      Peace !

  • David

    The pope preached?? The pope doesn’t preach. The pope reads out of a book. FALSE PROPHET

  • Frank

    Rev 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
    Rev 22:19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. NIV

  • ANTONIO MANUEL MARTINS MIGUEL

    Claro que o Papa Francisco falou bem ao dizer humanamente foi um fracasso. O seu corpo foi vencido, ainda que momentaneamente. Tudo estava nos planos do PAI. Espiritualmente, divinamente, foi uma vitória. Se assim não fosse que significado tinha o Papa dizer que somos seguidores de Jesus Cristo?
    Agora dizer como aí disse Andréa Protzek:”esse jesuíta marxista que vá cacarejar para esquerda que só acredita no demiurgo e no marxismo”, isso é ódio, é raiva, é arrogância, é mau-pensamento, é baixeza de carácter, é ser retrógrada e de péssimos sentimentos, quando o Papa defende a modéstia, a humildade, a simplicidade, a solidariedade, defende seguirmos a Cristo com Amor ao próximo, contra a exploração.
    André Protzek, reveja seus sentimentos, elimine seu ódio, faça prevalecer o perdão e o bom-senso que parecem estar ausentes dos seus sentimentos, do seu coração. Afaste a escuridão no seu coração e afaste-se por algum tempo destas páginas da internet. Onde você está vomitando ódio lance antes Amor. Ame-se e ame os outros. Não confunda nem despeje ódio nestas páginas.
    DEUS a perdoa, mas se arrependa da sua tamanha ignorância e falta de amor

  • Arneil

    I would like to comment but i’d rather not.. Geoffrey Grider is a closed minded person and it would be futile to argue.. for all of you who read his comments, please read first the Pope’s speech..

  • JIL

    Last time the Pope says..Abortion can be forgiven and now Failure of the Cross!? Wow! We are on the end times.

    • Brian

      Last I checked Jesus died for our sins, all our sins and who are you to say one sin or another cannot be forgiven. No place in the bible does it list sins in order of severity or that if someone repents they wont be forgiven. I think Christ’s blood is strong enough to wash away that sin!!!

  • “So for a Christian to be a spiritual brother or sister with a Muslim is impossible.”

    The pope did not say that Muslims are his (or our) SPIRITUAL brothers and sisters. I believe he was referring to the brotherhood of man – we are all humans, descended from Adam and Eve. The pope is reaching out to Muslims, trying to build a relationship of peace between them and Christians. (And I would remind you of the adage “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)

    Praying inside a mosque? So what? God is everywhere, and we can pray to Him no matter where we are. To me this seems a little like eating food that has been consecrated to idols … who cares? It’s just food. It’s not tainted in any way. Don’t be so superstitious.

    “we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”

    Humanly speaking, this is quite correct. The disciples, and the crowds that at times followed Him, thought He was immediately going to usher in the Kingdom of God, and reign from the Temple at Jerusalem. Instead, He was executed, hanging on a cross. The disciples were devastated. How had it all gone so wrong?

    And then they learned that He was alive, resurrected from the dead. And on the road to Emmaus, He taught them from the (OT) scriptures about His mission, and the necessity for His death to pay for the sins of the world.

    And so I could go on. You have shown a propensity for twisting things just a little bit (like suggesting the Pope had said Muslims were spiritually brothers and sisters, which he did not).

    I suggest that you try to be fair and accurate when you criticize others.

    Note, I am not a Catholic and I do not follow Rome in any way.

    • Closet catholic ? It’s ok, you can come out !

      Isaiah 45:5-6 KJV
      I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
      beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
      6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
      the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD,
      and there is none else.

      When the pope worships in a mosque, ( interfaith )
      KNOWING that there is no other God other than the
      God of the bible, yet validating their beliefs in non
      existent god, how else would you describe this but
      FRAUD ! and LIES ! The God of the bible would have
      nothing to do with this, in fact tells you to have nothing
      to do with this either ! It’s a false friendship built on lies.

      2 Corinthians 6:14-18(KJV)
      14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:
      for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteous-
      ness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
      15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part
      hath he that believeth with an infidel?
      16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
      for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said,
      I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their
      God, and they shall be my people.
      17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye
      separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing;
      and I will receive you.
      18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons
      and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

      So who is right, the pope or God !

      I don’t need to twist anything that the pope says or
      endorses, he does it himself ! So I will leave you with
      your delusion that interfaith is a way that Christians
      can share Jesus with those who loathe him ! Claiming
      Jesus as God to Islam is an insult to them !
      The Jesus (Isa) that Islam claim is not of the bible.

      I sugest you either follow Jesus or the pope you can’t
      serve both.

  • Jan

    Thank you, Geoffrey, I have no doubt that he is in heaven. He went to be with the Lord several years ago. my husband and I remained close to him and his dear wife up until their physical deaths. I was his office nurse and lab technician for 10 wonderful years. As a faithful R.C. I always knew there was something more but didn’t know anyone in or outside my faith who had anything better spiritually than I had until I went to work for Dr.Art. From the moment I first met him, I saw the light from that “city set on a hill”. I had no idea what it was until I personally met my Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ and read about it in God’s Word for myself. Doctor will always be a reminder to me to let my light so shine that others will see it and come to know my Father in Heaven just as I did. How I praise God for showing me that there really was more, and that it was freely offered to me from a loving Father who I didn’t know. Oh, I knew about Him, but I didn’t KNOW Him. Right after I received Jesus into my life, I made an appointment with a priest in my parish. I gave him my entire testimony and the tears flowed down his face. I thought he was sad because he was going to have to excommunicate me from the church, and I told him that it was ok and that I didn’t care. He just kept shaking his head and said as he walked away, “you have found what we have been looking for”. I never saw him again because I walked away from this false church for ever and never looked back.
    MARANATHA!! Jan

  • In response to Arneil, I am not Catholic and disagree with much of the doctrine, however, I watched Pope Francis since he got here and find the man himself to be gentle and humble. His thoughts on freedom of religion and family were encouraging. We should all get along and love one another. He compared the family to Joseph, Mary and our Savior Jesus Christ. No, I do not agree with praying to Mary. That is a peculiarity of the Catholic Church, but I do not see the satanic influence so talked about. God loves all His children. I do not know His final consequences, but He commanded us to love one another. How many of us parents despise our children when they do wrong? As for me, I try to correct my children, but the love is always there. They are a part of me as we are a part of our Father. I do see seeds of hatred being sewed here and instead we should all examen ourselves first. No, I do not see satan in Pope Francis. That is between him and his Maker.

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  • Jesus forgave the man hanging on the cross next to Him. People who commit murder are led to Jesus and forgiven. Why would the Lord deny forgiveness to a truely repentant woman who had an abortion? Forgiveness is the point in Jesus and the New Testament. How can we, mere mortals, know how God dispenses forgiveness? I see much unholy arrogance and judgement here. We should not assume to know our God’s thoughts.

    • Skywatcher

      Hi, Sandy.

      I feel the hurt and pain you are bearing, and therefore, I must tell you that God will forgive any person who is truly repentant. A person who has had an abortion has equal access to God’s love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness!

      What you see here is not “unholy arrogance and judgment” as you perceive. What you see here are people pouring out there hearts with a passion. These dear people are willing to die for what they believe; I know, because I’m one of them! I also believe that many of us would be willing to stand up and die in your place if it came to that. Unfortunately, our world has been so brainwashed into believing that this stuff called “passion” is anger, hatred, or intolerance. It is NONE of those things!

      Many of us have sung that dear old hymn, “Stand Up, Stand Up For Jesus” and we ARE! We are standing up; we are shouting; we are praying for a world that has been blinded by the “god of this world” (Satan). We don’t want to see anybody perish for eternity; that’s a mighty long time. Christ said that if we love Him, then we are to do His commandments. That includes loving everybody unconditionally, however, as children of the Most High God, we love the things He loves and we dislike the things that displease Him. He loves the sinner but hates the sin; are we to be any different? No! That would make us hypocrites, and we all know…the world has enough of them already. So, please, may I lovingly suggest that you do not become one of those “arrogant” and judgmental people as your comment so clearly indicated?

      I would like to suggest to everyone who comments on this site, PLEASE address your comment to a specific person so we know who is being addressed. Otherwise, it gets confusing, as we have to scroll up and down and try to match the response with the originating comment. It takes a lot of time which could be otherwise better spent. Thanks!

  • Elaine

    My dear Christian brothers and sisters in Christ, I believe we know exactly why Rick Warren was chosen to introduce Francis. Chrislam, ring any bells, metaphorically speaking of course. The Purpose is to put a Saddle on the Back of sheep to be Driven far from God and His WORD.in your Life. Rick Warren was the perfect choice.

    St. John 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
    4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
    9. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

    I can not reconcile this with failure, humanly speaking, of course

    I really do not know if Francis is the anti-christ, however, I do believe he has made the “Wicked Popes” list.
    http://gracegems.org/D/evil_popes.htm
    Congratulations, Francis!

    I know this is O.T. and for/to whom it is written, but I think this may apply to Francis.
    Deu. 23:2

  • Dear Sir G. Grider:

    First of all, I appreciate your desire to try and enlighten people about current events, especially re: Pope Francis’ visit now to the USA. This is a fulfillment of the prophecy of Dan & Rev. I am not a Roman Catholic but a Protestant by birth and raised an SDA by my mother. If you want to know what the Pope’s visit really means just search for the book THE GREAT CONTROVERSY on line and read the last 5 chapters of that book. Then you will learn what is going on re: the RCC “reaching across the gulf to clasp hands with the Roman power.” This is a very specific prophecy about the modern RCC Church visiting our Protestant USA nation and joining hands by being invited to speak to a joint session of Congress, giving them advice on how they should conduct this nation’s business in re: to Immigration and Climate Control for starters. This Pope is making the biggest hit with both the people and the leaders of the USA than any celebrity or world leader has in the history of the world. It has been noted by some alert and astute writers that even though Pope Francis has been giving absolution to basically everyone, no matter who they are or what they have done, (which the church teaches he, as Christ on Earth, has the right to do), but it has also been noted that even though he seems to be making a lot of changes, going against church tradition and dogma, in reality the church is still the same. As the old French Proverbs states: “The Church seems to always be changing (adapting) yet ever remains the same.” This is in accordance with the teachings of the church that it is infallible and cannot err. One post referred to ex Jesuit Alberto Rivera whose biography has been put in print by Jack Chick publications in a 32 page booklet entitled: ALBERTO. This is the first in a series based on the info Alberto supplied to this publishing company beginning about 1980. Some believe Alberto paid with his life for revealing the inner workings and past history of the RCC, by being poisoned. He died about 15 or 20 years ago. I met Alberto in person two times, in 1980 and again in 1989 for an audio interview and then a video taping of his talk in Everett, Wash. I believe he was telling the truth. The Alberto Series is still available and some of his talks on U Tube. As for Pope Francis, I believe the prophecies of Saint Malachi are coming to pass right now. Pope Francis is #112, the last Pope. Here is the prophecy from the 96 page booklet: “THE PROPHECIES OF SAINT MALACHI.” “The final legend is self-explanatory and Malachy concludes his short but fascinating prophecies as follow. PETRUS ROMANUS : — “In the final persecution of the holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven hilled city will be destroyeD and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.”

    • Phony Name

      In response to extra-biblical revelation:

      BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS IN CHRIST:
      -Want to win souls to Jesus. The gospel of salvation is the primary message (1 Cor 2:1, 15:3-4, Acts 26:18-20, Heb 6:1-2, etc.).

      The people have a new Godly nature that manifests fruit in holiness, godly living and good deeds (1 Pet 1:15, Tit 2:11-14, Eph 2:10, Phil 1:11,

      Col 1:9-10, Tit 3:8, 14). This is a primary way they love people and win souls (Tit 2:14, Prov 11:30).

      RELIGIOUS PEOPLE OF CERTAIN SECTS:
      – Want to win souls to their church and particular belief system (Gal 4:17, Rom 10:2). They also evangelize with the emphasis on their particular doctrines and truth more than the salvation of Christ (Act 15:1).

      – These sects usually start with one person who has had a supernatural vision. This is to appeal to people’s hunger for something supernatural and to turn them away from the bible as the principal source of discernment (Acts 8:9). Or they may be right wing radical fundamentalist with a loud voice (Pharisees, Saducees).

      – They eventually create their own bible version or an extra-biblical revelation/ tradition/ sub-organization that is at least as authoritative as the bible (Mat 15:6,9, Col 2:22), dispite the completion of authoritive, divinly inspired scripture (Gal 1:6-8, Jude 3). This is because if people study only the true word of God their false teachings are easily dismantled and ignored.

      – Since the grace giving power of the Spirt that turns away from Godliness (Tit 2:12, 1 Jn 3:9) is made void because the Spirit is not in the work (Gal 1:21, 3:2, 5), in order to get the people to be superficially holy, an elaborate system of law, rules and regulations must be established (Mat 15:6, whole books of Galatians, much of Romans, Acts 15:1-24). These leads to bondage (Gal 5:1).

      The final test is the fruit; doctrines are essential but not enough (Mat 7:15-16) as people can feign a belief system or otherwise poison the mind to improperly discern (2 Cor 11:3-4, Acts 14:2).

      Many churches today check these boxes. But alas, you cannot change a person’s mind until they are first changed by heart.

      REALIZATION
      Most are bound to the their respective churches as they have been taught that salvation is only through them and are afraid to test the
      doctrines (1 Thes 5:21, 1 John 4:1, 1 Cor 11:3-4). Only once they see that the method of building their garden (doctrines) hasn’t produced the right fruit will they begin to question: eg: no love, no joy, tired, weary, bored (Gal 4:15, Gal 5:22-23, John 15:8-17).

      But if they haven’t tasted of the banquet of God (1 Pet 2:1-3), they may think that the scrap fruit is the standard and still not seek.

      This is off topic but my hope is that perhaps someone will read this and begin to see and be set free (2 Cor 3:17).

  • pope is anti-christ and roman catholic is anti-christ church pope is dog so check his statement against holy master Yeshua Messiah i costgate on his evil face and check the history of roam all idol worshiper and pagans

  • Brian

    This is so sad, talk about bearing false witness, what does the bible say about that??? The bible says in Matthew 5:43-45 to love our enemies, that God causes the sun to shine on the good and evil he sends the rain to fall on the righteous and unrighteous! So in light of a horrible tragedy that killed over 700 Muslims heading to mecca on their holy day, maybe he should have laughed told an off color joke about them. Not very Christ-like! And the comment about the failure of the cross, he says humanly speaking, which from our point of view the Savior of the world came and was crucified, our thoughts are not his thoughts, they didn’t know God’s plan. In 1 Corinthians 2:8 it talks about how if the rulers of the time knew they wouldn’t have crucified him. In context of his message to the clergy he talks about being vigilant, in serving with gratitude and joy. BUT he’s the anti-christ leader of the worlds largest cult!!!! Think you missed the mark with this one

  • Charity

    What I don’t understand with the anti-Catholic comments I’ve read is, how can you proclaim yourself to be a follower of Jesus, to say that you love and worship Him, but at the same time, display so much contempt and loathing for Mary, His mother? Don’t you think He would be offended greatly by that? What I’ve also noticed is that the recent articles being written on this website spew so much venom and hate, not to mention very judgmental on the pope. We must be careful not to judge especially God’s anointed for their lives are consecrated to Him and only He knows their hearts. Grace and kindness are needed when trying to convince someone of your ideas/opinions/beliefs. We all need to pray more for the conversion of sinners before it’s too late, instead of pointing out who’s going to hell.

    • No one hates Mary. What we hate is idolatry. Mary is awaiting the resurrection just as everyone else who died in Christ. We are not to pary to dead people. That’s called necromancy. Turning Mary into a goddess does her harm.

      • Kathy

        Mary is honored in the Catholic faith (and rightly so), not idolized

        • That’s a LIE and you know it. You call this “honor”? I call it what it is, worship:

          “Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee to we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.

          V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
          R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.”

  • ImFlying

    @Linda Raser – I really like your POV on the seven heads and mortal head wound. I am going to go back and research that tomorrow. Our President, does in fact have an actual head wound as well. That appears, in the natural, to have healed indicated by the (moving?) scar.

  • Skywatchers, well said. Thank you for some clarification.

  • Ruth Ann Walker

    I believe, according to The Bible/Revelations, that GOD is setting the stage, for JESUS CHRIST appearance to rapture HIS Own. We have read, wars & rumors of war, violence, rage, anger, family against family, murder, rape, on & on a great falling away. We now have chips in our credi cards. There will be signs in sun, moon, & stars, false prophets, etc, I could go on, but I believe you get the picture. In Luke 21:28 OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST SAID & I quote, “WHEN YOU SEE THESE THINGS BEGIN TO TAKE PL ACE, STAND UP & LIFT YOUR HEADS BECAUSE YOUR REDEMPTION IS DRAWING NEAR. HALLELUJAH, AMEN.

  • The Pope is still the Antichrist that Martin Luther and the Reformation movement of the 16th Century across Europe discovered. When the Pope was in alignment with Mussolini and then again with Hitler, who would you have chosen was the Religious Leader and who was the Military Leader – False Prophet? It has not changed – he is still the Religious Leader of all time – 1500 to 1700 years. The kings of the earth still deal with Mystery Babylon – the churches still look to him. He is so much more than a False Prophet who has a political influence with the World – the Holy See controls the World Bank and are bringing us into a NWO and a One World Religion. Now see the recent picture of bho with the Pope. Who is the False Prophet-Military Leader and who is the Religious Leader. Who is the White Horse in first Seal with Bow and no Arrows – He is riding the Beast, Beast of the Land who is great orator, deceiver, and for moment is following the Pope – who soon the Beast that is being ridden will devour the Lady in Purple- as Daniel – 2 kingdoms – Iron (Rome) and Clay (Islam). Who made the deal with Iran? Soon to be revealed end of 2016 when this Beast runs U.N. i.e. World – and the Revised Roman Empire submits – Islam will publicly behead Pope and burn Rome. http://www.the7thdayreturnofthelord.com

  • Ryan Watson

    Geoffrey Grider,

    I do not know you, nor have I had past experience with your writing. I only hope that this article is not typical of the information you share as it shows very poor scholarship on your part. It is clear that you have not listened or read the pope’s entire message, nor have you read the context of his statements.

    I am not a supporter of the pope myself. But I must honestly confess that there is nothing unbiblical about his statement regarding the “failure of the cross.” However, if you would take a moment to research the context of his statement, you might understand that. The meaning of his statement is not what you have given to it.

    The following link provides a transcript of his speech: http://abcnews.go.com/US/read-pope-francis-yorks-st-patricks-cathedral/story?id=34023376&override=facebook

    Perhaps you might take a little time to read it before presenting your false accusations.

  • Hardfacts

    This is the very reason I denounce protestantism. The Pope is antichrist just because he preaches peace? You people are terrible. You pretend to be Christians while your hearts are so hauthy and hateful? I can’t imagine your hypocrisy. Do you love Muslims more than God? Christ said He has other sheep, and the He will bring them together, so there will be one Shepherd and one flock. Yet it’s only you and you. Pass this false message around the much you want, the Pope has a mission to peace. You are so wicked that the only thing you do is to lay trap for the catholics. Let me ask you, what efforts have you made to take the gospel to Iraq, Iran, the UAE, Russia and Turkey? Non. Please respect your attitude. If you were Christ, you would throw Mary Magdala into hell fire straight. I am yet to see any of you that will have express entrance into heaven, for I know that non of you is a sinner. How would you win a sinner if don’t go near him? Yet you pray everyday and remind Christ He is a friend to sinners. Continue misreading and misinterpreting the Pope just because of your hatred to the catholic church, afterall Christ was called the Head of Belzebob.

  • Hardfacts

    This is the very reason I denounce protestantism. The Pope is antichrist just because he preaches peace? You people are terrible. You pretend to be Christians while your hearts are so hauthy and hateful? I can’t imagine your hypocrisy. Do you love Muslims more than God? Christ said He has other sheep, and the He will bring them together, so there will be one Shepherd and one flock. Yet it’s only you and you. Pass this false message around the much you want, the Pope has a mission to peace. You are so wicked that the only thing you do is to lay trap for the catholics. Let me ask you, what efforts have you made to take the gospel to Iraq, Iran, the UAE, Russia and Turkey? Non. Please respect your attitude. If you were Christ, you would throw Mary Magdala into hell fire straight. I am yet to see any of you that will have express entrance into heaven, for I know that non of you is a sinner. How would you win a sinner if don’t go near him? Yet you pray everyday and remind Christ He is a friend to sinners. Continue misreading and misinterpreting the Pope just because of your hatred to the catholic church, afterall Christ was called the Head of Belzebob. Now tell me how these much hatred can see God. You glory in extracting the verse that suits your high level hatred.

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  • Ignatius

    As always, Pope francis’ words are taken out of context.
    He is speaking about the measures of success, that “humanly speaking” that is to the human or worldly mind it seems that Jesus failed when He died at the cross, Pope Francis is exhorting us to measure success not in that way. Humanly speaking it does seem that Jesus failed when He was put to death on the cross, but we know that by the cross He triumphed.
    It’s sad how people will immediately pounce when the Pope appears to say something controversial and don’t even stop to get the content of his words.

    • Well, did the pope SAY that Jesus “triumphed” at the cross or did he say that the “cross was a failure”? Because when I watch the video clip I hear him saying that “Jesus was a failure at the cross” and then he ends his thought.

  • Charity, Amen!

  • Mike au, I, for one, do not appreciate your attitude or condescending tone. Sounds as if you are the judgemental one here and quite belligerent about whose right and wrong. This is a discussion format and we are here to learn and exchange ides. It is as easy to do it nicely as it is to get belligerent.

  • Claude Kenneson

    What is even more shocking to me is the sanctimionous attitude of comments I read here. You’re no different from the numerous false prophets through the centuries who have proclaimed each pope in their day to be the false prophet and anti-christ. I read the same type of comments when Pope Paul 6, Pope John Paul 2, Pope Benedict were in office. And, whomever the next Pope is I will be reading the same hogwash. You are like Cain who asked God “Who is my brother?” Or, like the scholar who asked Jesus “Who is my neighbor?” You demand that the person in need be a “Christian” like yourselves to be worthy of your help. You are far more disgusting than the Pope you try so desperately to disparage. At least he wouldn’t pass up a Muslim in need because he is not in your inner circle.

  • Did it ever occur to folks that the false prophet and the anti-Christ would not be so transparent and easy to identify? I believe Pope Francis is a simple, humble man who desires all people to come together and love each other. A grand hope that we all know is impossible. People are not built to get along. Socialism is a grand idea, but it does not work. Ego’s are involved. There will always be an elite and a lower class until such time as our Lord returns and reigns over His people. Mother Mary, well it is wrong to worship or idolize her, but she was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, God himself, and she did have a virgin birth of Jesus, our Lord and Savior, so doesn’t she at least deserve some respect? She did raise Jesus to maturity. I think her and Joseph did a good job. He was a boy as well as a teenager. The bible tells us He understands because He lived as a man and experienced things as a man. This discussion about the visit of Pope Francis has gotten way out of control.

    • Sandy, sorry your offended, but I’m not here to exchange
      ” ideas “, or love people all the way to hell, if you really
      love them, tell them the biblical truth ! The pope does not
      represent God on earth, God does not surround himself
      with idols, interfaith is evil, ” there is no other God beside
      me,” the Catholic Church worships Mary, she deserves
      respect yes, but not worship and if you read my posts I’m
      responding to people who are quoting me then adding their
      own interpretation contrary to what the bible says ! The bible
      is offensive to all other false faiths on planet earth !

  • Wulfrano Ruiz Sainz

    Poop Burronio is insane. Lock him up!

  • Claude, kind of like Jesus and the Good Samaritan?

  • Jewel, Pope Francis is not the anti-Christ. If we go by your criteria the ISIS is the anti-Christ, the Saudi’s are, Budda is, native Americans are…..I mean, get real. There are many groups of people that worship idols. The anti-Christ will be far craftier than the Pope or Obama. He will come as the thing you desire the most and we must always be in the Spirit in order not to be deceived. The lord said these things would not happen until all people on earth had a chance to hear the gospel. That mission is not yet complete. The things happening now are but a small taste of what is to come. If I were not a regular here and was just passing through, I too would think you were a bunch of sanctimonious nuts. The pope has gone home. Time to calm down.

  • Ledia

    Perhaps, I am young; but correct me if I’m wrong. I believe he said we are ‘followers of Jesus Christ’ and ‘humanly speaking’ which means Jesus Christ did not fail spiritually. I believe he was trying to motivate us to be like Jesus, even as a human He had so many hardships and all. And to see how many of my brothers and sisters in Christ are condemning this man. Calling the Muslim ‘hell-bound’ is the rudest thing I’ve ever heard. This site calls itself a Christian site but I see the contrary. The Muslims were indeed our brothers and sisters as they were made by GOD. I believe the act the pope was doing is right, making peace with other religion. It is an act of love which would undoubtedly convert them and bring them closer to our God’s arms. SOME of you however are plain judgemental. Where Jesus is about love, SOME of you discriminate. There are no other rules. Just love and follow. Repent, brothers and sisters.

    (Above all else, guard your heart for everything you do flows from it.
    –Proverbs 4:23)

  • The Person Who Wrote This Is An Idiot … The Pope Is Preaching Peace … Peace!! … We Are All Brothers & Sisters Under GOD … Call Him Allah, Jehova, Olodumare, Etc. Etc. … It Is Man That Makes Religion Not Religion Makes Man … Also “Failure Of The Cross” … Yes It Was A Failure … He Died For Our Salvation, But This Doesn’t Mean Your Saved & God Looks Away From Your Actions … Christians Alone Are Hateful & Have Killed So Many People In The Name Of Christ … Is this What Christ Wanted? … & You Dare Criticize Muslims? … The Christians Mention Satan & The Anti-Christ More Than Any Other Religion … Preach The Bible, But Forget “Christ On A Cross” When It Comes To Being Hateful & Malicious … I Wonder, Who Are They Worshiping? … Your Actions Says It All!! … Hypocrites!! … No One Follows Christ … Nor His Word … Christians Are Just Fans … Carry On!

  • arthz

    The blog took the message of the pope out of context and bent it to own interpretation of the author. First ,he based his argument about the wrongful act (according to him) of the pope when he calls brother and sister the muslim ,on the fact that “allah has no son” . He implies that the “brother and sister” spoken by the pope refers to flesh and consanguinity. No, the pope is speaking about universal brotherhood of human being. Even i, can call anyone my brother and sister on the context of universal brotherhood and not on the basis of whether my god and their god have sons. The second point he raised is about the failure of the cross. Come on, it is so obvious that the pope is not referring to jesus christ as him,failing his own cross. He clearly point out that whenever a professed christian fail to follow jesus christ, he ( the christian) is failing the cross ( by not living the way christ live). Well, i am not here to make a pro or cons about the word of pope, for i am not a catholic, i am an i.n.c. . I just took and weigh the argument based on its presentation

  • hardfacts

    Protestants, please where is this so much hate coming from? Can you tell me a single saint Jesus walked with? What good is it to you people loving those who love you? Quite contrary to the teachings of the Man you pretend to follow. You exude high level of wickedness…Religious intolerance, Bigotry. You people love Hell so much that it’s the CENTRE OF YOUR WORSHIP! Let me asking you, “Humanly speaking” how many humans will go to heaven? If less than 30% of humans can go to heaven from this level of hypocrisy, killings, hate, love of money, hate preach, has Christ achieved His aim? Which of you here hates his or child because he/she is disobedient? Yet Christ says “I have other sheep and I’ll bring them in as well” Protestants simply exudes HATE AND RELIOUS INTOLERANCE.

  • edwitness

    To the R C mind it was a failure. Because the kingdom of God to them is something to be set up now so He can return and take His seat in the kingdom they are so militant about establishing. That’s why it is ok to kill in the name of Christ for R Cs. They truly are like their “brothers” the muslims.
    MARANATHA!

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  • Lucrezia

    Uninformed posts like this are giving real Catholics opportunity to instruct in the real teachings of the Church! I believe Jesus’ heart breaks at the divisive language among all His children. All Christians, including Catholics, are members of God’s family. Have some respect for His family. Stop degrading, name calling and misleading people. It’s unchristian.

    • It’s funny, you call us “uniformed” when the REALITY is that I was trained in the Catholic system for 12 long years, including 3 as an altar boy. I was 30 years altogether in the Catholic corporation, and know with unhesitating certainty what doctrine of what they teach and believe.

      Catholics are NOT “Christians”, look at your own name. You are ROMAN Catholics, the world Christian appears no where even in your own bylaws.

  • Skywatcher

    Dear Lucrezia,

    I’m going to try to be as delicate as I can be in my response to your very ignorant (lack of education) response to your ludicrous post.

    You believe Jesus’ heart would break “at the divisive language among His children”. First of all, who are you calling “God’s children”? If they have NOT had the born again experience, they are NOT God’s children. Jesus said that Himself: John 3: 5, 7; John 1: 12, etc.

    I’m appalled that a beautiful, bright, and intelligent looking young lady such as yourself, would want your hard-earned money to go to support such a clandestine group of demons as this! PLEASE! I’m not knocking R.C. people! They are beautiful salt of the earth people, who have been horrendously deceived and controlled for way too long. These DEAR folk deserve to hear the truth from God’s Word and God’s REAL children. They deserve to read it for themselves, and to spare themselves from a post like this! They deserve to know what God delights to do for and through them! However, they are toooooo lazy to pick up the Book and to read it for themselves! They trust the foxes to feed and to nurture the chickens; that’s NOT how it works. They trust the wolves in sheep’s clothing who are lying to them and condemning all else who do NOT belong to their fold.

    Christ didn’t come to bring peace, but a sword of division! He came to wake the people up so that they could see how they were spiritually bound, deceived, misled, and used by their religious leaders. He came to divide the sheep from the goats; the wheat from the tares, those in the light from those in the darkness, the wise from the stupid (parable of virgins), etc.

    Let me give you several observations from your post:

    1. You obviously don’t spend very much if any time reading YOUR Holy Bible to see who belongs to God and who doesn’t; what He expects of us and what we can expect of Him.

    2. Christ says that to enter Heaven, we must be born again which refers to spiritual rebirth and newness in life in and through Him. You’ve seen that message more than enough on this site. Old things are passed away and behold, all things become new. That means lifestyles should bear fruit that exemplify Christ (Gal. 5: 22, 23), not add another layer of gold to the Vatican walls or tapestries! That means we cheerfully give to the poor, rather than hoarding it up while people around us are poor and destitute. We don’t take oaths (as the Pope and Jesuits do) to kill infidels ~ people who don’t subscribe to their evil brand of “Christianity”!

    Having said that, you feel that many commentators on this site are very disrespectful, via name-calling, etc. I call a murderer a murderer! I don’t sugar coat it to make him or her to feel better about themselves.

    You may not find us to be very loving, kind, sensitive in our remarks and that is because our hearts break for those who are still “under the spell” of the Vatican; those who refuse for some strange reason, to wake up and to ask some very serious questions of their religious handlers. We are sick and tired of being labeled with your brand of “Christianity”, due to very clever media propagandizing. The R.C. cult has been promoted as “Christianity” ever since electricity found its way into a copper wire; it’s anything but!

    3. Listen to what YOUR pope is dictating to the rest of the world while he does the opposite! Don’t you see anything wrong with that? Listen to what he’s NOT saying! That’s just as damaging… if not more so! Back through the centuries, the R.C. cult has been controlling, manipulating, persecuting, murdering, pillaging, raping, diddling, and plundering their own and others who defected and STILL ARE…under the name of Christ…a false Christ! They don’t represent the real Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible on ANY level! ANY LEVEL!!!

    They tarred, feathered, disemboweled, beheaded, dismembered, tortured the real genuine Bible-believing/practicing Christians throughout the ages, and I’m insulted that you would believe that I would want to be a member of “God’s family” (as you call it) that condones and enjoys this kind of antichristian behavior?

    Why would you even want to admit to being a part of this sick, twisted, evil, demonically possessed and controlled entity? That puzzles me!

    4. Trust me, I’m being more than kind in what I’m about to say: What my dog leaves on my lawn each day is more Christian than the R. C. cult has ever been! READ YOUR Bible and meet the REAL God and Savior!
    There is absolutely nothing in YOUR Bible that discourages your priests from marrying; there is plenty against homosexuality and other moral sins. There is nothing in your Bible about praying to Mary or having to pay indulgences! There is nothing in your bible about infant baptism, christenings, purgatory, any ONE man being a representative of Jesus Christ; we are ALL called to be His ambassadors! The Holy Bible warns against the evils/dangers of strong drink; many priests are seldom sober! There is nothing in your bible that says you are to confess your sins to a priest, who is getting off behind a curtain while some people are seriously confessing! He’s vicariously living through their experiences because he has been lied to and told he cannot marry! OR…that he is married to the church! Have fun with that one on any given night! There is nothing in your bible that says you are to say a number of “Hail Mary’s” for the absolution of sins, or any amount of money that will “cover the damages” of such! No wonder perversion is rampant in the local R.C. church and especially in the Ratican! People like you that speak out of their anuses boil my blood wayyyyy off the charts! I hate it when people speak out about things they obviously know absolutely NOTHING about! I’ll tell you what the R.C. cult is all about: mind and money control! You’re just a cash cow the Ratican milks dry on many levels! Enjoy your next milking! Think of what I and others have said on this site the next time you do your duty and put a coin or two into the collection plate! What is it supporting? What brand of whiskey is it buying this week? Who did my priest diddle in the past ten days? My son or daughter? Is this of God? Should you have to have such awful concerns? Is this God’s way of doing business on earth? NOT AT ALL! These antics fly in direct opposition to Him and His Word.

    God says, “Come out from among them and be ye separate”! He also says to “come out from among them and be ye holy, for I, the Lord your God am holy”! I’m afraid that does not describe your man-made self-appointed institution! It is purely from Hell, and you’ll never EVER have to worry about the “gates of Hell” prevailing against it because they control the gates!

    God has a real acute sense of humor! One day, I…a Protestant…had to give a eulogy for a Catholic priest who was killed by a drunk driver who hit him on his motorcycle. It was the hardest thing I ever did because when I asked him one day if he was born again, his face lit right up and he said he’d given his heart to the Lord at a men’s retreat about 5 years prior.

    Later on, I learned from some of my friends that he’s telling them NOT to listen to what I or another Protestant Christian have to say about the Bible! This made giving the eulogy for him extremely difficult for me; I don’t believe he really was a Christian, and I certainly DID NOT send the devil to Heaven in my eulogy! I still have it to this day to look at once in awhile when I think of him, and how his eternity could’ve been.

    Lucrezia and others in her camp: You’re not a very wise person to be putting down people who KNOW what they’re talking about! Some of these very same people came out from among that muck and mire after Jesus saved them from it! They KNOW what they’re talking about, and to them I say, a HUGE God Bless you as you enjoy your new life of love, forgiveness, peace, and freedom in the real Jesus Christ! I love you!

    Get in the Word Lucrezia! Christ wants to set you free and love on you like never before!

  • Char

    Hey Skywatcher, if you’re not a minister, you ought to be! Very well written for Lucrezia to understand the Word and what is expected of us. There are so many that are misled these days and we don’t have much time to make it right. So, Lucrezia, please listen to what Skywatcher is saying and heed the Word! God Bless!

  • Skywatcher

    Thank you, Char. Many years ago, I trained to be a preacher and I made the worst mistake in my life…I stepped out “for a brief time” and then my life took a horrible turn for the worst! I could write a book!!!

    Thankfully, God, in His eternal love, grace, and mercy lifted me up and out of the miry clay and put my feet back onto Christ Jesus, the Solid Rock of Ages to stay! They can cut my tongue out, lop of my head…it doesn’t matter…I’ll serve Him long after this body is dead! Those words about the tongue and my head just came to me; sounds like a song.

    He has done so very much for me; what little bit I can do for Him in a site like this or any other, is mere peanuts in comparison! Without Him, I would be nothing; without Him, I’d surely fail, and without Him, I would be drifting…like a ship without a sail! That is a song, I know! But it is the truth!

    For any of you out there who have not met this Jesus, do NOT hesitate! There is none other like Him! He’ll not love you any more than He does right today! Come to Him just as you are! If you feel dirty, unclean, unforgivable, have habits and hang-ups that cause you to feel unworthy, you just never mind! He paid the price for your sin! He gave His all for you; what are you willing to give for Him! He died that I might live and let me tell you…He is my only reason for living! I give myself to Him each day, asking Him to cause me to be a blessing to Him, thus ensuring I will be a blessing to others!

    There is no high like the MOST HIGH! Keep looking up! Keep one eye on the prize and both eyes on the Savior! Blessings! Thank you, again, Char, for those encouraging words! Everybody out there who has had an encounter of the best kind…please pray for all the Lucrezia’s and Billy-Bob’s that are out there! This is wayyyy too good to be keeping to ourselves! Pray for the Muslims too! Pray that their leaders will also have such an encounter with the REAL Jesus Christ of the KJV Bible! 🙂 He is the only One who can turn them around and give them a new way of thinking and living! Praise the Lord! We’re going home soon! Blood moon or not…my room is reserved! I don’t need a sign; I need a LIFT! Merciful! I feel a “preach” comin’ on!

  • Lisa

    Wow folks have a little respect. I will say that my mother told me years ago that when she was questioning some of the teachings of the Church, her sister in law gave her some books to read from some Protestant leaders in history. It wasn’t’t long before she was ‘Converted’…..BACK to the Catholic faith. she said reading all the falsehoods about the Catholic Church that many religions use to support their faith made her realize the truth of Catholicism. I’m so happy she did. I love the pope and the Churches moral and social teachings are the answer to a peaceful and loving world, absent of hate and self righteousness.

    • Skywatcher

      Lisa, with all due respect , Dear…you will wear the mark quite well. Satan has a plan and a purpose for you, and you’ve obviously taken the bait. You’ve fallen for his trick…you’ve swallowed the poison of lies and attempt to hide your head from the truth. That’s not your fault! You still have a chance to see that Protestants love Catholics very much…or at least they had better! We do NOT want to see them go to a Christless eternity! We are “screaming” for them to wake up and to smell the roses, but for a great many, screaming just won’t do it. A spiritual slap aside the head is all that some understand, because that’s what their R.C. church has been doing to them for hundreds, yea, thousands of years! They’ve gotten so accustomed to being abused by the Vatican, that they REALLY believe that is all there is! That’s a lie right from Satan.

      We Protestants speak with such passion and zeal because we are so very sick and tired of being grouped together with this very unholy organization of crime, lust, greed, and murder. God commands us to come out from them and to be holy. I apologize for your interpreting many comments on this forum as being negative and nasty. If you could only HEAR the tone of voice that would share these same words with love, compassion, understanding, and yes, grace! We are NOT villains; we are guilty of loving and caring enough to try to wake people up before it is too late. Christ is coming any day, and we don’t want to see you or anyone you love go to the Lake of Fire for all eternity! God so loved the world…He commanded us to go into the world and to preach the good news of the gospel. Sometimes, we need to know what we’re leaving behind before we can make the choice to move forward to something soooo much better! You are loved, Lisa! By this person! I will pray for you and your family! God doesn’t love me or anybody else on here anymore than He does YOU & yours!

      Do yourself a huge favor and go on Ebay or Amazon.ca and get yourself a copy of “Foxes Book of Martyrs”. You won’t read very far into it before you’ll be throwing your last meal up all over the place. When you witness historical accounts of what the R. C. cult did to Protestant believers (and others), you’ll soon sing a different tune!

      The Vatican was NEVER about peace; it was and always will be until its termination as an instrument of conquest! It will be neat to see who wins out…the Vatican or the Muslims. One is just as vile as the other.

      What you and so many others misinterpret as hate, hostility, anger, etc. is really our passion for standing up for what is loving, kind, good, moral, real peace, security, and justice! We love people so very much that we want to jar them awake to the reality of the strong spell of deception they find themselves under.

      The Crusades, the Inquistions, the witch hunts for Protestants were all led by the R. C. cult, which hijacked Christianity many many centuries ago! They hunted us down like rodents. They raped, pillaged, plundered, burned to the stake, disemboweled, beheaded, burned alive our brothers and sisters in Christ! You tell me…and the rest of us on here…Do YOU believe your “church” was acting in love when it committed these atrocities and genocide in other countries as we now speak? Can you honestly say they paint a lovely picture of “peace”, God’s love, forgiveness, acceptance of others? If this is evidence of the kind of god the R.C. church serves, then I definitely would NOT want any part of he or it!

      Help me here, folks! That kind of fruit is not synonymous with the fruit of the Spirit that we are commanded to be producing in Gal. 5: 22, 23!

      In fact, Lisa, I have to agree with you on a point here! Yes, I do! I’m seeing so-called Spirit-filled Protestant Christians haggling over one or two theological bones of contention. It’s neither amusing or pretty. They’re starting to hurl hidden innuendos of animosity, arrogance, strife, etc. toward one another. For that very reason, I may have to leave this site! It is shameful! Despicable and unChristlike!

      Why do you people insist upon doing this to each other? What kind of a witness and testimony is this for the Lord of Glory? Not all the negative commentators on this site are wrong! Not every one who is taking part in this is a Christian; to be acting no differently than the unsaved world is definitely NOT going to win them to the Lord who loved them enough to die for them, so they could have an “abundant life” in the here and now (John 10:10) and a secure eternity with Him in Heaven! For Heaven’s sake, get a grip on it! Remember Whom you allegedly represent!

      Mark 8: 38: Christ says, “Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” I’ll bet He’s mighty ashamed of some of us right now!

      Most are way off the topic! It’s become a Pre/Post-trib and Roman Catholic bashing site! For shame! If I have spoken anything but the truth, I am extremely sorry! If any of you are offended by anything I have said on this site, that’s your choice and I make no apology. Truth sometimes has a sting to it. I would rather warn someone of the bridge out ahead than to let them fall headlong into the abyss below. I know that is the heart of 98% of you on here, but PLEASE, let’s do it with grace and civility.

      Bless you all! 10-4 over and out!

      • Kathy

        Skywatcher, don’t say “Us Protestants” because I am Protestant and disagree with you.
        Lisa, I think the Catholic faith is beautiful. You are what Jesus created through Peter. You should stick with your faith. It is beautiful. Those who say negative things are simply threatened by the wonderful Pope, who is a true Vicar of Christ on earth. It is obvious the Lord chose him

  • carson

    Some people seem to think being politically correct is loving or forsaking the word of God in truth is being kind or being loving..what if Jesus had done that? (of course He didn’t though!). The Truth sets free and the Truth only comes from God, not man’s idea of things, so forsaking the word of God and thinking it’s somehow love or truth, how blind, the devil has them blinded.

    loving in this instance is with grace speaking the truth/the word of God, not hiding it or forsaking to speak truth in effort to appease the flesh or please those who insist on being apart from Christ.
    Why among many reasons do people think they crucified Christ? why did they stone steven? persecute the early church and up to today, truth/Christ//the word of God..the darkness and those of it hate Christ/the Truth.
    The devil has some blinded to the point they forsake the truth and speak soft lilting lie’s one to another and think it’s loving.
    ezekeil 33, Acts 20:26-27 and others show love is not withholding the Truth that can set someone free in order to instead appease them, make their flesh nature ‘feel good’.
    Truth is Truth, it’s not a matter of making anyone feel good or not feel good, feeling good has nothing to do with anything when it comes to truth.

    at the end of the age, and what tragedy for so many, stop the blindness by hearing the word of God and turning to only Christ and calling out to Him with all that you are to be saved born again in Christ.

    Seeking to ‘be kind’ above all else, as if that’s the all in all, makes people men-pleasers, men-pleasers seek to please men and not God and forsake the Truth as the Truth/Christ doesn’t please the flesh nature and all are of the flesh nature until/unless their born again in Christ.

  • Char

    You’re welcome, Skywatcher! Well, now you can be a singing preacher, but I only know about your good preaching, not your good singing (if it is). My daughter is going through what you went through. She went to bible school for a year, then went back to her old friends and now is a full blown alcoholic that sometimes drinks and drives and does other things I won’t go into, which comes down to her getting away from the Lord. I try hard not to say anything about her “buddies” that are a bad influence on her, especially when we hardly have much time left. I can only pray for her and yes, I do pray for the Jews and the Muslims, as well as my children to come to the Lord before it’s too late. God Bless! Keep up the good work writing lyrics, singing and preaching. lol

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  • Chicagobluesgirl

    Yes. You are so right. One of our missionaries in Poland described it like this: the Roman Catholic Church is all about faith in religion vs true faith in Jesus Christ. I was Catholic since childhood and then a born-again Catholic for many years until I realized their man-made add-ons that take away from true faith in Jesus Christ. NOTHING needs to be added to His death on the cross for us…not sacraments, not prayers for the dead, not ANYTHING. In JOHN 19:30, we are told He said on the cross, “It is FINISHED.”So all the add-ons only lead people away. We only come to Jesus Christ by accepting Him as our Savior–No one comes to the Father except by Me (John 14:6). Pray for your misled friends who are taking the wide path to Heaven. Jesus Himself said in Matthew 7:14: “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
    Someone here said there are “others” who will be accepted. That is in the Book of John and talks about the gentile born-again believers at the time. It wasn’t talking about Muslims or Buddhists or those who believe in false gods. Yes, Muslims, Buddhists, Catholics, ANYONE can become a born-again believer of Jesus Christ but then the Holy Spirit will change them to learn the truth. Only Jesus saves, not Allah, not Buddha and not the pope or religion. It’s not necessarily what the Pope DID say, it is what he did NOT say that is so harmful. He said “humanly speaking” the cross was a failure. Read John and see how the Jewish leaders viewed Jesus death on the cross–as a failure–but His resurrection shows how magnificently successful his death on the cross was–it saved mankind for all eternity–if they will accept Him–Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
    The pope had a grand opportunity to share the gospel after that sentence but he did not. I believe he did not because he is not saved. He is not a Christian man. He is lost like so many others in our world. I guess that is why the Catholic church has Jesus still on the cross and Bible-believing churches have an empty cross. Without the resurrection, we would all be lost but praise God, His death and resurrection can give us eternal life. Please, everyone reading this, no matter what your religion, please ask Jesus to save you, to come into your heart and show you His Way. If you sincerely do this, He will show you. God Bless.

  • Jan

    Sandy, I’m sorry if you took my comment as being accusatory. It was not meant that way. I could have used Charles Manson as my illustration. He was a person with a strong personality and drew many followers who were obviously blinded by his charisma. I was just giving you my thoughts on how someone could follow a false shepherd (leader). I wasn’t trying to judge David Koresch, and I’m not judging Charles Manson either. I’m just making an honest observation based on what I’ve read and seen on TV which is not unusual for all of us to do. We all have opinions, but in the end it’s God only who can judge because He sees our heart. Hope my explanation merits your forgiveness.

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  • edwitness

    Lisa,
    Have you read the posts Geoffrey has written regarding what your pope has been saying? One of which is that he said to the world at the UN that “he comes in his own name”. Do you realize the Biblical significance of a statement like that? If you did you would never say you love this pope in the context you did.

    • bremertonchristian

      Do you realize the biblical significance of that saying? Jesus was talking to the “Jews” when He said that. A man will come in his own name to the “Jews” and they will believe he is their long awaited messiah. Jesus wasn’t referring to the false prophet that this site claims is the pope. The “Jews” will never accept a Catholic Goyim as their messiah.

  • edwitness

    Great instruction Geoffrey. I hope she can appreciate it.
    Blessings:-}

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  • hardfacts

    @Skywatcher, you are an epitome of hatred! You lead people to hell by your level of hatred to non protestants. You pretend to read the bible, yet fails to see that no where did Jesus separate mankind, race or gender. One person here said somebody’s name does not show Christianity and I laugh.Tell me, are Abraham, Isaac, Jacob christian names? Thank God you have no cupboard in heaven.I see you trying to overthrow some angels, I see you set the date of Christ’s coming, all to punish your percieved non Christians. You are so hateful, shade off this load. No sinner will ever repent because of your hateful way of life. You are doing more harm to the kingdom than good.

  • Kathy

    *humanly speaking* – of this world

    It is very easy to understand to me and I’m not even Catholic. You have to remember that some things are lost in translation a bit and also there are cultural differences in how someone from Argentina would convey something as opposed to a Pope that would be from the US. I completely understand the Pope’s message. He is a great vicar of Christ and the Lord certainly has a plan for him on earth. We are all lucky to have a Christian worldly voice in Pope Francis. Without Catholics, we don’t have that. I think instead of looking to shred their faith and their leader, maybe try to understand instead of pouncing on every little word or believing every meme shared on social media about him.

    • Skywatcher

      Kathy, if your evil and corrupt pope is a good “vicar of Christ”, then I’ll gladly serve Satan any day! Wait! They’re actually of the same household!

      You’ll make a great pawn in the New World Order! You contradict yourself when you say, ” We are all lucky to have a Christian worldly voice in Pope Francis.”

      God’s Word commands His children to come out and to be separate FROM the world’s systems, values, etc. A Christian cannot be both Christian and worldly. Incidentally, you conveniently described the pope as both in that statement. He’s definitely worldly and as of late, more worldly than “religious”.

      By the way, being religious doesn’t make one a Christian; it makes them a slave to legalism and ritual!

      You can call yourself a “Protestant”, but you certainly DO NOT speak as a true Protestant, but a poor confused soul who is still trying to fit in…on both sides…without a floor to stand on.

      You say, ” I think instead of looking to shred their faith and their leader, maybe try to understand…” Maybe you should get yourself a copy of Foxe’s Book of Martyrs and see why we are all so passionate about our stance toward the pope, the Ratican and the whole cesspool of corruption this institute portrays and is! It’s not a pretty warm and fuzzy story! After reading it, I’ll gladly welcome you to the ranks of the true believers in the REAL Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible. You have a counterfeit Christianity and it’s not a very good one at that!

      Read the comments of others before you spew a mess of foolish rhetoric for attention’s sake! See the testimonies on here of people who did their homework who WERE R.Catholics and obeyed God and came out and away from it, giving their reasons! They now have a personal testimony; you have a false hope, false security, and a false prophet as your leader.

      YOU do your research! There are plenty of great expositors on YouTube (John MacArthur, Doug Bachelor, Charles Stanley, etc.) and on the I-Net that give the historical beginnings, background, and updates on the Roman Catholic Church that are undeniable!

      May God richly bless you on your endeavor to seek for Truth (John 14:6). Time IS running out!

      • Kathy

        I feel sorry for you. And I don’t mean that in a passive aggressive way. I truly mean in my heart that I feel sorry because you seem to have a dark heart. I am Methodist and can tell you that most of my church respects the Pope. There are things we don’t agree with obviously but overall, most of us think he is a good humble man. Good day to you – I hope you see the good in people

        • Skywatcher

          No need to feel sorry for me, Kathy! My friends and family and associates do NOT see me the way you do. I run a business and I must be doing something right because God is blessing me, and allowing me to bless others! People with hateful and “dark” hearts don’t care about God or others. You’re hearing my words in the exact opposite manner from which I type them from my heart. I have no reason to dislike anybody! In fact, I love EVERYBODY, even my enemies.

          I love people enough to take my time to try to help them along their journey of life. I try to encourage and to build people up in their faith ~ when their faith is in Whom it ought to be. Love does NOT allow people to go through life being deceived, controlled, and manipulated.

          These may be harsh words for you, but the Methodist churches here in Canada (which are called “United”) have next to no real regard for God’s Word, for His heart, or for His blessings. According to His Word, He would call them “vomit” and spew them out of His mouth (Rev. 3: 15, 16)! They are more like social clubs: Legion halls, Lion’s Clubs, etc. Everything and anything goes! They trust in their good works and deeds to get them into the Kingdom, and NOT in the work that His only begotten Son did on the cross…in THEIR place!

          So, please, don’t allow Satan to play on your mind as you read my posts or most others on here. We are putting ourselves out there, on our time, because we have come out of the darkness and into His marvelous light, and we wish that everybody could have what we have! The peace, joy, love, purpose, hope, etc. that He gives us is right out of this world. When the world is upside down and things are going wrong, we can ALWAYS call out to Him and He is there. He is the tower of strength that we go to when the waves of life would desire to upset our little boat we call life. He is more than enough; He is our everything and we owe Him that much…not Mary. We desire that everybody could have a home in Heaven as we’ve been promised. We’re not haters. The haters are really the ones who are intolerant of God’s Word and those of us who REALLY take it seriously, trying our utmost best to live accordingly, and to help others get to that special place in Him.

          Kathy, God is NOT happy when we disobey His word and worship idols, statues, people, creation, etc. He DEMANDS our undivided worship. It’s all black and white:

          We follow His expectations as laid out in His Word, and then He will in turn, give us our expectations as He promised in that same Book! It’s really a great arrangement!

          I can’t wait to see Him, can YOU? Will you sidestep Him and run to Mother Mary and hug and kiss her; bow down to her and worship her OR her dear Son who gave His all for you? You see, we have to make that decision now, as to whom we will worship “on earth as in Heaven”.

  • Kathy, I am not Catholic, but I agree with you about Mary. As the mother of our Savior, she should be honored. Yes, we know she is mortal and awaiting the second coming as we all do, but who has not seen a statue of Mary and wondered what it was like to be Jesus’ mother. I am no more offended by that than a cross with Jesus on it. In my church, the cross is empty because Jesus came down from the cross and was raised again. Some churches use wine, some use grape juice. Some baptize babies and some wait until the child is a teen. It’s all good as long as our focus is on loving God and living our lives accordingly.

    • Kathy

      Yes Sandy! I agree completely. As a Protestant, I wish we would honor Mary more. She had to of been a pretty special woman to be chosen to carry and bear the Messiah. I feel like a greater emphasis on Mary would actually bring me even closer to Jesus. Rather than automatically fire insults at Catholicism or any religion for that matter, it’s more beneficial to understand the facts and the whys on beliefs and rituals. I used to the incense was overdone until a Catholic friend told me what it symbolized- now I think it’s beautiful

      • Lol, you keep saying that you are a “Protestant” and then praise and glorify the Catholic church. That’s not the talk of any Protestant I ever met. Kinda sounds to me like your “sheep’s clothing” is giving you a wedgie, just sayin’…Pray to Mary? Not with a gun to my head.

        • Kathy

          I don’t see it that way as they are asking Mary to pray for them however you are entitled to your opinion 🙂

      • Skywatcher

        Kathy, with all due respect, you have me a bit concerned. As has already been said numerous times in this site, Mary was a very special woman, BUT not worthy of our worship; she was a mere mortal, who was granted a very special assignment.

        She was a young virgin woman, divinely chosen by God, to be the vessel through which our Savior was to come. Let’s give honor where honor is due, shall we?

        If I read the Book correctly,

        1.Mary did not spend 40 days in the wilderness, enduring numerous temptations.

        2. Mary did not heal anybody or raise anybody from the dead.
        3. Mary was NOT given the power or authority to forgive sins.
        4. The Bible NEVER says that we are to worship any body or any thing other than God.
        5. Mary was corrected by her son at one point in time. She was lovingly and kindly put in her place by Him.
        6. Mary died and did not resurrect from the grave.
        7. Mary did NOT die for our sins; SHE did not bare your penalty for sin on a cruel cross.
        8. Mary never said that if you killed her, she would rise again on the third day.
        9. Mary never promised eternal life.
        If you can prove to me with ONE verse from the Holy Bible that we are to give worship or to pray to Mary, I’ll become a Roman Catholic! How’s that for a challenge? All of us on this forum will be sitting by, waiting for ONE good reason why Mary should be venerated above the One who gave His all so that we might live.

        In your heart of hearts, after Mary saw her naked innocent Son being beaten, beard pulled out, mocked, tormented, nailed to a cross and then speared…do you believe that she would feel worthy or entitled to such honor as you wish to bestow upon her?

        Do you think for one moment she would be comfortable with being worshipped and put onto a pedestal?

        Do you believe she would stick her chest out and demand that you and others worship her because she was His mother, after seeing her Son endure such treatment?

        Can’t you picture her gently chastising you for giving her that kind of recognition? I believe her experience humbled her to the inth degree and she would want all homage and praise go to Him…the Only One Who could make it possible that we could have a heavenly home!

        As a woman, it is NOT wrong to put yourself in Mary’s shoes for a moment or two and wonder. We all do that. However, we can NEVER EVER feel the magnitude of grief and sorrow she endured that day and we must not leave her there! BUT OHHHHH! The resurrection made up for it all! In like manner, we can NEVER EVER feel the joy, ecstasy, gladness, thrill, etc. that she felt when she saw Him for the first time after that horrible day on the hill! There are no words for it.

        However, I can assure you and all crucifix wearers/worshippers…she would be most upset to see people wearing the like, praying to them, stroking them and hailing her! This would “press her motherly buttons” and she would likely tear them off your neck, off your walls, off your plaques, etc. and ask, “HOW DARE YOU!!! He’s no longer on the cross! Why do you insist upon leaving my Son on the cross! He defeated death and the grave! He is risen! He is risen indeed! Get with the program and worship and serve my Son! He alone is worthy of praise, adoration, worship, and service.

        Let me assure you, she would NOT be the meek, mild, and sweet gentle Mary that we all like to envision her as if she were to see this!

        Come on, let’s get real!

        O.K. Kathy, you show me some biblical reasons why you believe as you do. I won’t judge you or criticize you. I might be wrong, and you may be right. As a Methodist gal, you should know your Bible well enough to give us some proof as to why you are so strong in your faith. So, let’s get ‘er done!

        • Larry / vietnamvet1971

          Thanks for your thoughtful rebuke and trying to open the Blind eyes & ears of people that are so BRAIN WASHED / INDOCTRINATED into a Religion that puts its self above GOD, I guess they think 1.5 BILLION Deceived people have to be right, safety in numbers.

  • Kathy

    Methodist. We consider ourselves Protestant and I can assure you no one in my church speaks like you do. I never said pray to Mary either

  • sooz22

    A true born-again believer would be praying directly to Jesus, not the human Mary.

    • suez

      You mean a human dead Mary, I’m sure. 🙂 Not that it changes anything. We are not to pray to anyone or anything, but the Heavenly Father in Jesus name. Catholics pray to idols and dead people. That is nothing short of the occult.

      • sooz22

        Amen!

  • Kathy

    I think praying only happens directly to Jesus. However I think Catholics also say prayers asking Mary and the saints to pray for them.

  • Geoffrey, that remark you made yo Kathy was beneath you, nor was it funny. I have been here several months and I am beginning to doubt the sincerity of the site. Seems like more of a witch hunt to me.

    • Ort

      Sandy, it seems as if people are so interested in the cult of personality, following a human being and being enthralled with the whole pope thing, they have lost sight of God and His Word.
      Then, when it is pointed out to that person, they go on the defensive. They accuse the person of being mean or rude or unkind, etc. I’m sorry, but the truth hurts to those that aren’t following it.
      Sandy, the RCC, the pope, their works based faith, the rosary, Mary worship, their priests, and their outright un Biblical teachings are NOT the Church Jesus started!!

      • Skywatcher

        ORT, that was well said.

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  • Ort, were you there when Jesus started the church? If memory serves me, Jesus disciples started out as pagan sinners. They even betrayed and denied knowledge of Him. They couldn’t even be bothered to stay awake and pray for Him the night he was taken. Seems Mary Magdeline was a prostitute and I do believe when Jesus corrected His followers, He was very gentle about it. Even today when God convicts, He is gentle and forgiving. I don’t believe He is ever arrogant. Although most of you know your bible backwards and forwards, there are some of you who still need to be gentler with those who don’t yet know it all. Yes, I do get defensive when someone deliberately makes one of God’s children, who is trying to learn, feel small because they are not yet bible scholars. There are many wonderful people on this sight who have shown me direction, prayed for me and gently shared God’s Word.

    • Ort

      Sandy, the disciples were Torah observant Jews! Guess what? Jesus was also! God/Jesus gave the Law to Moses and to Israel.
      Where in the world did you get YOUR information that they were “pagans”??? Mary Magdalene was NOT a prostitute. The Word of God says she was a woman whom “Jesus cast out 7 demons.”

      Calling her a prostitute is yet another RCC lie.

      Nobody is trying to pound the life out of you. If you feel that way, I’m truly sorry. I don’t want anybody to have hurt feelings. But, Paul wrote “study to show yourself approved.” Open God’s Word and pray before you read, that He would give you wisdom. He will do this!

  • Sooz22, may I remind you, judgement is mine sayeth thr Lord.

  • Craigo

    1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the Word of the Cross is foolish to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.”
    I am not pro-pope, but what is so difficult to understand here? From the world’s point of view, if you are not a failure, then you are NOT SAVED! But the real tragedy is that the pope never mentions the only goal of Christianity – THE COMING KINGDOM!!!

    • Skywatcher

      Craig, that was excellent! Only one problem, my brother…you need to dump the counterfeit bible and get yourself a HOLY Bible! The verse you quoted does NOT say what the copies of the ancient manuscripts say! It contradicts God’s Word!

      We are NOT “being saved”, we ARE saved! The work of Christ was finished on the cross of Calvary! That’s why He cried out, “It IS finished”! Done! Complete!

      If we are being saved, how can we be “in Him”, “in Christ”, “made perfect in Him” if we are not totally saved yet?

      These modern messes or per-versions cause a lot of confusion in churches where people care enough to take their Bibles with them! It is then that they discover the errors projected on on the overhead screen! I was greatly blessed 40 years ago, to have had godly pastors who warned us about these imposters, pointing out the errors! Unfortunately, most of these godly men are gone to Glory now, and the majority of Christian leaders are using anything and everything except for the REAL genuine article!

      The are serious repercussions that ensue when one goes into battle with a limp and powerless noodle and not the strong sword of the Spirit!

      Geoffey’s site offers excellent reasons why we should stick with the rightfully long time trusted KJV! If you require more proof, I actually did up a paper a number of months ago, showing scores of additions, omissions (of whole verses), changes to Christ’s doctrine of deity, etc. You or anybody else are welcome to email me for a copy if you like.

      There is a reason why these newer per-versions are not called the “HOLY Bible” anymore because THEY’RE NOT!

      I can prove to you that homosexuals and satanists are behind these translations and what their agenda is!

      I’m so glad you made this post tonight; I was waiting for some heresy to pop in somewhere along the way. If you really want to know the truth about these counterfeit bibles, please email me at:

      scotianprince@eastlink.ca and I’ll gladly mail you a copy! You’ll be shocked, and worse yet…do NOT expect your pastor to come alongside and support you in this extremely serious discovery! they are blinded by the god of this world! Many did NOT have godly pastors as I did to warn them of the dangers! They don’t know anything better.

      So what! The KJV is a little more difficult to read, but after an hour or two, it’s second nature! Just like learning another language, but a whole lot easier! Anything worth having is worth working for! It will stay with you longer too! I’d rather work a little harder for the truth than to be lazy and go to Hell on the runners of a lie! Nothing deceives better than a lie with a little truth in it! C. S. Lewis

      Blessing, my brother!

  • Skywatcher

    As I said before, places like this really ARE NOT the place to be holding a meaningful discussion because the voice is not being heard. We are just reading words and putting our own emotions behind them, clearly missing the emotion that the writer intends!

    Satan loves this! It causes confusion, hurt feelings, animosity, etc. etc. It’s robbing people (on both sides) of their peace, joy, TIME, and well-being. In short, not very glorifying to our Lord.

    Wouldn’t it be great if we could all meet in a nicely decorated room and carry on this conversation with nothing but pillows to throw at each other and a few laughs amidst the feathers?! 🙂

    Wouldn’t it be great to be able to all of us sit around a table, open God’s Word and to see what it has to say to us about these topics instead of cooking up a real hodge-podge? That way, we could really hear and SENSE God’s Presence and peace in our midst ~ totally unlike this mess!

    There are so many voices out there today, just as Jesus said there would be: false prophets, false teachers, false doctrines, etc., and so very few real genuine Bible-believing/practicing leaders who have “it altogether”, who can lead us in the way of Truth and Life. So many of them have ideas that conflict with our Lord, and unfortunately, many (perhaps some in this forum) get caught up in their erroneous teachings, without actually going to God’s Word and searching it out for themselves, as good Bereans ought.

    Having been involved in churches most of my life (in a music capacity), I’ve observed that most people (Christians and/or church-goers) want to follow the under-shepherd and not THE SHEPHERD! They like the tone of the leader’s voice; his looks; his charm or that special bit of attention they get from him/her. When our eyes are on the leader and our hearts are not listening to the Holy Spirit, we end up with problems. When we follow the leader and disobey the Lord we purport to love and to follow, we are asking for discipline…serious discipline!

    Carriewave, you’ve done an excellent job! However, the horse you’ve been riding for hour upon hour talking about Pre/Post trib. is dead. Dear, it’s beyond resuscitation! It’s time to dismount and find a live one! Continue to be the blessing God wants you to be…to people who REALLY want to know the truth. After repeatedly granting invitations to John, he has NOT once asked to see the overwhelming evidence I have in support of a Pre-trib rapture, nor does he want to see it. Get off that pony, Carriewave, and find someone who wants and needs the knowledge, wisdom, and encouragement you have to offer.

    John, I did not say that as a dig at you; it is what it is, my brother. You remind me of a brainwashed Mormon or J.W., sad to say. It’s your way or the highway. Carriewave and others have you pegged correctly. Do you really suppose Christ is happy with your performance on this forum? You have joined the former rank of Peter…the Coward’s Club and I say that with love and sadness. He denied Christ three times; multiple times, you’ve denied yourself the chance to look at the evidences I have offered. Are you really afraid of the truth?

    A person who makes a judgment without considering all the evidence is not very wise. Time and time again, you’ve shown your eschatological skills to be lacking. Poor Carriewave has all but run herself ragged trying to reason with you, but as my dad said many years ago, “You cannot reason with a fool.” Harsh words but true. Swallow your pride, brother, and take a look at the evidence. It won’t hurt you, and if nothing else, it will give you more fuel for your fire…more bullets to fire at me!

    I wish people would stop throwing stones at each other and move along. Should any of you desire to shoot a hot missive in my direction, assassinating my character, etc., DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME. When I see the message heading in the toilet, I simply hit “DELETE” thereby sustaining my personal peace, and joy.

    To all on this forum: Have YOU witnessed to or led a soul to Jesus today? If not, why not? Spending too much time bickering on here to do the “Father’s business”? Will that cause Him to say to you tonight at bedtime, “Well done, my good and faithful servant”?

    I know He won’t be able to comfort me with that simple but extremely heart-warming statement! Between work and being on here defending myself, etc., I’ve neglected my Father’s business.

    If you all could see inside my heart, and see how it longs to just take each and every one of you and give you a Middle Eastern Jesus hug! To show you the love of Christ, regardless of your positions re: the rapture, regardless of what denomination you belong to! Carriewave, John, and I would need to have a group hug, methinks! 🙂 I think a lot of group hugs in our little “fellowship” would be required.

    Some of you are hurting and long to know the truth. How I wish I could personally spend time with you in your own home, and lovingly and caringly walk with you one step at a time through those pressing issues of life and to show you what God’s Word says about them. There are people like myself in your town; seek them out and ALWAYS ask the Lord to give you guidance, wisdom and discernment when talking of the things of the Lord and He surely will!

    Brother Geoffrey is doing a splendid job in his presentations and commentary. What he is saying most definitely has the backing of God’s eternal Word. Thank you, Geoffrey for your hard work and dedication!

    Blessings, All!

  • Tracy

    Today pope holding interfaith prayer service with Christians, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews. This is not good. (see 1 Cor 10:18-21) And for first time ever, flag of Holy See being raised at United Nations; nor is this good. He is also addressing United Nations this morning. And for the first time ever, pope addressed a joint session of Congress yesterday. A lot of “firsts” going on.

    See link below it confirms what is said above.

    Pope Francis in New York: What to watch Friday
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/us/pope-francis-united-nations-friday/index.html

    CNN in article above also says he received a “rock star welcome”. Yes, he received exactly that. Jesus didn’t. And the pope is very showy, performing his works in front of the world for all to see, and praying in front of everyone for all to see.

    Keep your eyes on Jesus. We going home soon. We do not know the day or hour, but the bible tells us we can know the season. Hallelujah!

    Destruction is coming soon.

    Jews trying to get permission to build third temple. Plans already drawn and movable altar for third temple already built.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/198621
    They build the third temple because they reject Christ as the Messiah. Whereas we by the grace and mercy of God know that our bodies are now the temple because Christ lives in us.

    The Pope is the false prophet. He combines man based morality with common sense (this was revealed to me by the Lord maybe a year ago about how he works: the morality with common sense; I had no idea what a humanist was until today when the Lord led me to the definition, I’ll talk about that later on). He is very well liked and is the most exalted man living on earth (should any man be exalted on earth? No! God will not give His glory to another). According to the Vatican he has 1.2 billion “followers” who are Catholic, not even counting unbelievers who like him. He is a friend of the world.

    Pope is friend of the world. See James 4:4-5.

    Pope bows down to statues of Mary. See Deut 5:8.

    Pope denied the divinity of God.

    Pope says his time as pope will be short; says is strange sensation http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6867524

    “The papacy is but the ghost of the Roman empire sitting crowned above the grave thereof.” http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_beasts_Constantine_emperor Pagan Rome declined and it took a new form of “Christian” Rome but is controlled by Papal Rome. Vatican City, the seat of the papacy, only came into existence less than 100 years ago when the Lateran Treaty was signed by Mussolini, and the Vatican became a sovereign state. The Vatican is actually its own country. And it is the smallest country in the world. http://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

    The Vatican literally sits on top of the dead. There are mass graves beneath. http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-vatican

    Since Vatican City came into existence, there have been 8 popes; pope francis is the 8th. He is of the 7 destined to destruction. See Rev 17:11.

    Pope the Imitator:

    Jesus heals people. Pope “heals” people. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

    Jesus came humbly on a donkey. Pope came to the US “humbly” in small compact car. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/22/fiat-pope-francis/72637782/

    Jesus, True Shepherd. Pope, false shepherd; FAA call sign, Shepherd One. http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/politics/pope-francis-shepherd-one-visit-united-states/

    In Jesus is our hope and true healing. Pope brings “message of hope and healing.” Doesn’t mention Jesus at all. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/24/pope-francis-delivers-historic-address-to-congress/

    Pope releases doves as symbol of peace. Doves attacked by birds. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546218/Birds-released-Vatican-gesture-peace-immediately-attacked-vicious-seagull-crow.html

    The day Pope Benedict resigned, lightning strikes St Peter’s Basilica. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/13/lightning-strikes-st-peters-basilica-the-day-pope-benedict-xvi-resigns/

    Can’t find it on internet yet but on TV news yesterday lady said she named both of her children after popes and they died young and how happy she was pope francis came to usa

    Pope is a Jesuit. Jesuits must take vow of poverty, obedience to whoever pope is and chastity. Jesuits isolate themselves for much of their lives and intentionally focus on their sins to arouse intense sorrow; they intentionally create their own repentance (they try to enter the sheep pen not by the gate who is Jesus).

    The Jesuits were formed just before the Counter Reformation and were formed to reform the Catholic Church (isnt this what pope francis is trying to do now by making a whole lot of changes within the roman catholic church?) And the Jesuits were also formed to counter the Protestant Reformers who believed salvation is a free gift, whereas the catholics believed salvation comes by works. Ignatius, who founded the Jesuits, believed in contemplative mysticysm (a purgative, illuminative unitive pattern) and it should be made available to all people. The Jesuits are also big on HUMANISM and included it in Catholic thought. What did Jesus do to Peter when Peter said he didnt want Jesus to die? Jesus rebuked Peter and told satan “Get behind me satan! You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” What is HUMANISM? Definition: an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human matters/concerns rather than divine or supernatural matters/concerns.

    The pope is a HUMANIST.

    http://theweek.com/articles/578420/pope-francis-isnt-liberal-hes-something-more-radical-christian-humanist

    You cannot be a Christian and be a humanist.

    And look at what the humanists are saying about the pope:

    http://americanhumanist.org/news/details/2013-09-leading-atheist-pope-francis-is-the-kind-of-world-le/

    Also note that Ignatius, the founder of the Jesuit order, was a freethinker. What is a freethinker? Definition: a person who rejects opinions, especially concerning religious beliefs, an individualist, an atheist, a nonbeliever. And what does the Freedom From Religion Foundation have to say about a freethinker? “No one can be a freethinker who demands conformity to a bible, creed or messiah.” See link below. The Jesuits do not worship God, they worship satan disguised as god.

    http://ffrf.org/faq/feeds/item/18391-what-is-a-freethinker

    And because the pope is a Jesuit and does not worship Jehovah God, but rather worships satan, we can understand that it will be easy for satan to either convince the pope he is God or just take over the pope complety. The pope already believes he is the Vicar of Christ. ” In claiming that the pope is the Vicar of Christ, the Catholic church rejects the efficiency and supremacy of Christ’s priesthood and grants to the pope roles that Christ Himself declared would belong to the Holy Spirit. It is blasphemy to ascribe to the pope the title of Vicar of Christ. In Matthew 16:18 Jesus Christ is the One who says He will build His church; He never delegates this power. Jesus does predict a “vicar” in the sense of a “replacement” for His physical presence here on earth. However this “vicar of Christ” is not a priest or a pope. The only biblical vicar of Christ is the Holy Spirit. See John 14:26.

    Do not be scared by any of this. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love a sound mind. Jesus said these things will happen. Hold on tight to the Word of God. The Lord has been bringing Catholic folks into my life for a reason and know I why, so I can share the truth of the true gospel. Praise Jehovah God, the one true God, Who loved us enough to send Jesus, our Lord and Savior.

  • tracy

    I wrote this on Sept. 25th.

    Today pope holding interfaith prayer service with Christians, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews. This is not good. (see 1 Cor 10:18-21) And for first time ever, flag of Holy See being raised at United Nations; nor is this good. He is also addressing United Nations this morning. And for the first time ever, pope addressed a joint session of Congress yesterday. A lot of “firsts” going on.

    See link below it confirms what is said above.

    Pope Francis in New York: What to watch Friday
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/us/pope-francis-united-nations-friday/index.html

    CNN in article above also says he received a “rock star welcome”. Yes, he received exactly that. Jesus didn’t. And the pope is very showy, performing his works in front of the world for all to see, and praying in front of everyone for all to see.

    Keep your eyes on Jesus. We going home soon. We do not know the day or hour, but the bible tells us we can know the season. Hallelujah!

    Destruction is coming soon.

    Jews trying to get permission to build third temple. Plans already drawn and movable altar for third temple already built.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/198621
    They build the third temple because they reject Christ as the Messiah. Whereas we by the grace and mercy of God know that our bodies are now the temple because Christ lives in us.

    The Pope is the false prophet. He combines man based morality with common sense (this was revealed to me by the Lord maybe a year ago about how he works: the morality with common sense; I had no idea what a humanist was until today when the Lord led me to the definition, I’ll talk about that later on). He is very well liked and is the most exalted man living on earth (should any man be exalted on earth? No! God will not give His glory to another). According to the Vatican he has 1.2 billion “followers” who are Catholic, not even counting unbelievers who like him. He is a friend of the world.

    Pope is friend of the world. See James 4:4-5.

    Pope bows down to statues of Mary. See Deut 5:8.

    Pope denied the divinity of God.

    Pope says his time as pope will be short; says is strange sensation http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6867524

    “The papacy is but the ghost of the Roman empire sitting crowned above the grave thereof.” http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_beasts_Constantine_emperor Pagan Rome declined and it took a new form of “Christian” Rome but is controlled by Papal Rome. Vatican City, the seat of the papacy, only came into existence less than 100 years ago when the Lateran Treaty was signed by Mussolini, and the Vatican became a sovereign state. The Vatican is actually its own country. And it is the smallest country in the world. http://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty

    The Vatican literally sits on top of the dead. There are mass graves beneath. http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-vatican

    Since Vatican City came into existence, there have been 8 popes; pope francis is the 8th. He is of the 7 destined to destruction. See Rev 17:11.

    Pope the Imitator:

    Jesus heals people. Pope “heals” people. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

    Jesus came humbly on a donkey. Pope came to the US “humbly” in small compact car. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/22/fiat-pope-francis/72637782/

    Jesus, True Shepherd. Pope, false shepherd; FAA call sign, Shepherd One. http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/politics/pope-francis-shepherd-one-visit-united-states/

    In Jesus is our hope and true healing. Pope brings “message of hope and healing.” Doesn’t mention Jesus at all. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/24/pope-francis-delivers-historic-address-to-congress/

    Pope releases doves as symbol of peace. Doves attacked by birds. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546218/Birds-released-Vatican-gesture-peace-immediately-attacked-vicious-seagull-crow.html

    The day Pope Benedict resigned, lightning strikes St Peter’s Basilica. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/13/lightning-strikes-st-peters-basilica-the-day-pope-benedict-xvi-resigns/

    Can’t find it on internet yet but on TV news yesterday lady said she named both of her children after popes and they died young and how happy she was pope francis came to usa

    Pope is a Jesuit. Jesuits must take vow of poverty, obedience to whoever pope is and chastity. Jesuits isolate themselves for much of their lives and intentionally focus on their sins to arouse intense sorrow; they intentionally create their own repentance (they try to enter the sheep pen not by the gate who is Jesus).

    The Jesuits were formed just before the Counter Reformation and were formed to reform the Catholic Church (isnt this what pope francis is trying to do now by making a whole lot of changes within the roman catholic church?) And the Jesuits were also formed to counter the Protestant Reformers who believed salvation is a free gift, whereas the catholics believed salvation comes by works. Ignatius, who founded the Jesuits, believed in contemplative mysticysm (a purgative, illuminative unitive pattern) and it should be made available to all people. The Jesuits are also big on HUMANISM and included it in Catholic thought. What did Jesus do to Peter when Peter said he didnt want Jesus to die? Jesus rebuked Peter and told satan “Get behind me satan! You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” What is HUMANISM? Definition: an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human matters/concerns rather than divine or supernatural matters/concerns.

    The pope is a HUMANIST.

    http://theweek.com/articles/578420/pope-francis-isnt-liberal-hes-something-more-radical-christian-humanist

    You cannot be a Christian and be a humanist.

    And look at what the humanists are saying about the pope:

    http://americanhumanist.org/news/details/2013-09-leading-atheist-pope-francis-is-the-kind-of-world-le/

    Also note that Ignatius, the founder of the Jesuit order, was a freethinker. What is a freethinker? Definition: a person who rejects opinions, especially concerning religious beliefs, an individualist, an atheist, a nonbeliever. And what does the Freedom From Religion Foundation have to say about a freethinker? “No one can be a freethinker who demands conformity to a bible, creed or messiah.” See link below. The Jesuits do not worship God, they worship satan disguised as god.

    http://ffrf.org/faq/feeds/item/18391-what-is-a-freethinker

    And because the pope is a Jesuit and does not worship Jehovah God, but rather worships satan, we can understand that it will be easy for satan to either convince the pope he is God or just take over the pope complety. The pope already believes he is the Vicar of Christ. ” In claiming that the pope is the Vicar of Christ, the Catholic church rejects the efficiency and supremacy of Christ’s priesthood and grants to the pope roles that Christ Himself declared would belong to the Holy Spirit. It is blasphemy to ascribe to the pope the title of Vicar of Christ. In Matthew 16:18 Jesus Christ is the One who says He will build His church; He never delegates this power. Jesus does predict a “vicar” in the sense of a “replacement” for His physical presence here on earth. However this “vicar of Christ” is not a priest or a pope. The only biblical vicar of Christ is the Holy Spirit. See John 14:26.

    Do not be scared by any of this. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love a sound mind. Jesus said these things will happen. Hold on tight to the Word of God. The Lord has been bringing Catholic folks into my life for a reason and know I why, so I can share the truth of the true gospel.

  • Gie

    I cant believe all the haters here… I got here through a link shared on facebook… but all I learn is a malicious interpretation of ones speech.

    Come on really? a self-proclaimed vicar of christ? did you ever hear or heard pope francis saying that he’s the vicar of christ? seriously?…
    The author may be popular or have a good reputation.. but.. if you read and understand the whole article.. he’s just merely trying to put malice on ones speech… that’s how I see it..

    I for one can understand the pope’s message… how cant anybody else here not?.. I’m catholic alright.. so what?…cant you understand the underlying message in the speech?.. listen to all of you here… those comments above… siting verses in the bible… do you really think you are right? .. I know I am not… but hey.. I dont read the bible that often.. should I?

    To cut to the chase… this article has fooled and effectively attracted web visitors to heat up discussions on religion.. heck.. what’s the webpage for in the first place? what’s the purpose of the design company of author in the first place? (need I say it?.. to generate web traffic…. thus… income…

    OK haters… fire on… I wont reply .. peace.

    • Kathy

      Agreed. I have never seen people with such cynicism and hate in their hearts. It is kind of scary and sad at the same time. My thought is this – they are threatened by the Pope. Because the Pope has awoken a sleeping giant – that giant being fallen away Catholics and those who have left that now want to go back because they are hopeful in their faith. I can see it all around me.

  • Angel Greg

    Keep drinking your Kool-Aid, peeps.

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  • Gabby

    Jesus is came from the womb of Heavenly Father, so Jesus is the Son of Father God in Heaven, before the earth created, Jesus is already existed. read the bible in Genesis. That’s is why I converted to other Christian beliefs because the Pope in Rome does’nt real understand the words of God in the Bible and he did not to expose the real words God to the people what is the truth in the bible.
    The false prophet! open your mind and to all the people, please try to search, find, read the bible and ask God’s help to discover and find the truth religion in our present day.

    • I find several things odd with our pope. First pope to put on his crown, says in latin “Vicaruis Filii Dei” meaning in english “Son of God!” They use latin and roman numberals as you may know. When adding “Vicaruis Filii Dei,” using roman numberals starting with V= 5 and so on equals “666”

      Secondly, Lucifer is defined as a “As the devil” or second meaning “Morning Star. The pope loves this song. Take a listen… https://youtu.be/KknIu0D80lQ

      Moving on, in USA, he speaks and Pope Francis Never Mentioned Jesus In His Speech To Congress! On SEPTEMBER 24, 2015 By The Federalist Staff
      Although he referenced multiple hot-button political issues in his speech to Congress, Pope Francis didn’t mention Jesus Christ even a single time.

      Why, I wonder?! That was a perfect time. So lets move on, he Speaks at ST. Patricks Cathedral in New York, an says… Jesus is a failure on the cross. Let’s back up, he talks about what we sow and reap. Basically says we sow to GOD and at times, we feel like our effects failed because we are not getting anything in return. But we must remember, who we are following, Jesus , who is a failure,(PAUSE) a failure at the cross. WTH (What the heck) JESUS WAS NOT A FAILURE AT THE CROSS! WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD, IT IS, “JESUS DYING ON THE CROSS FOR, ME, MY LOVED ONES AND THE WORLDS SINS, SO WE CAN BE SAVED!”

      POPE SAID:” When we read the account of Creation in Genesis we risk imagining that God was a magician, complete with an all powerful magic wand. But that was not so. He created beings and he let them develop according to the internal laws with which He endowed each one, that they might develop, and reach their fullness.

      In my view, the one who is the blasphemer is POPE FRANCIS! You can defended this man but I will NOT REPKY! As the bible tells us, there will be people on the flase prophets side and by the way, the POPE IS NOT “A HOLY FATHER,” ONLY GOD! There are more issues of this pope doing things anti-GOD, it’s very strange people. “Read the Bible” OH AND CERN < THE LARGEST BOTTOMLESS PITT, WITH LOGO 666 ON EVERY WEB PAGE they have, SAW FACES LAST TIME in 2013/14 "CERN scientist claim supernatural stuff happened last time."
      and now they STARTED IN SEPTEMBER 16, 2015 FOR SIX MONTHS, RUNNING IT FOR THE "FIRST TIME AT FULL POWER/ FULL FORCE" SPOKEMAN OF CERN SAID:" WE EXPECT SOMETHING TO COME IN FOR THE PORTAL THIS TIME!!" Yes, it is off topic, but CERN IS EXACTLY WERE "APOLLYON" <— (evil god, the destroyer is) in Revelation chapter 9 is all seeming to make sense!
      watch and learn about CERN : https://youtu.be/5SbGayvpu1o
      ALSO GO TO YOUTUBE AND WATCH VIDEOS ABOUT CERN. CERN SAID:" WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHAT STARTED THE BIG BANG AND POPE FRANCIS AGREES! HA! cern opening another world …
      …………………………………………………………………www.discoverrevelation.com/Rev_9.html
      Book of Revelation – Chapter 9 explained scripture by scripture – Star fall from heaven, locusts, bottomless pit, abaddon, Apollyon, G

  • Kathy and Gie, praise the Lord for your posts. I thought I was losing my mind! I keep saying “why are you arguing, why are you so arrogant, where is your Christian behavior?” And no one ever responds. The sight has turned into a continuous competition between people with nasty, self-righteous attitudes. I don’t want to leave, but it is becoming too stressful rather than the pleasure it should be. I thought things would calm down when Pope Francis went home, but I was wrong.

  • Skywatcher

    Dear Roman Catholic folk: Wonder no more as to why Protestants are protesting the Vatican and it’s holdings…including those who claim we are hateful, etc. Check out these video clips and see where we are coming from! Interestingly enough, these videos are put out by different people…but yet, the message is the same. The evidence is overwhelming! Are the Protestants here correct or way out in left field? Check it out and see!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M Pope declares Lucifer is God
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa4nsCYzM1w The Vatican’s Project Lucifer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHsBbMBMiMY Vatican Disclosure ~ excellent 3 hr. interview! A must see!

    This is just the tip of the iceberg, but it’s more than enough. People need to wake up and come out of this heavy fog of deception! Maybe the Protestants are wrong after all! YOU be the judge(s)!

  • Sharon D

    Let’s examine this statement within the context of what is previously said: “The cross shows us a different way of measuring success.” Here the pope is stating the cross was a success. He continues, “If our efforts … seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ” … This is paralleling the things in our life that SEEM to be failures, just as the cross SEEMED to be a failure to those witnessing the crucifixion. This is why the pope referred to “The seeds of success”. When Christ died, there wasn’t immediate victory … only seeming failure from a human vantage point — to those there watching him die and be buried, and their hopes seemingly with him … but after 3 days, the battle was won as he rose up from the grave in victory. I believe this to be what the pope was trying to communicate in a nutshell: From a human perspective, at the time of Jesus Christ’s crucifixion, his life seemed to end in failure, but seeds were planted in his death which produced the fruit of victory.

  • hardfacts

    Skyewatcher, you are pitiable, a lier and a false teacher. You said the Bible never mentioned “Being saved”, and I wonder the type of false Bible you use! You think you are saved, but I guess God will be marveled at the DEPT of your wickedness and hatefulness.

    Check out these verses oh false teacher;

    1) (“WILL be SAVED”)…He who endures to the end WILL be SAVED…Mt 10:22, 24:22, Mk 13:13,8, Rom 5:10, 9:27, 11:26, 1Cor 3:15,
    2) (“BEING SAVED”)…1Cor 1:18, 2Cor 2:15,
    3) (CAN STILL be SAVED)…Rom 10:1, 1Cor 5:5,1Cor 10:33,

    Finally, I want to tell you oh false teacher that you are SCARCELY OR HARD SAVED…1 Pet 4:18.

    Many verses support these sayings, but to you, you see only the verses that tell you you are already saved…With this level of your hatred to mankind. You are very poor in the spirit.
    Until you get there, you don’t know if you ARE saved. For now, you are BEING saved, or better still CAN STILL BE saved. Stop teaching falsehood. There’s no difference between you terrorising with your bible and those terrorising with guns and sword. Your similarities are much…hatred, intolerance fanatism.

  • Skywatcher

    Hardfiction, I hope you don’t believe you are a born again Christian and can berate and assassinate the character of another in such manner?! SHAME ON YOU!

    Normally, I wouldn’t respond to such a foolish diatribe as yours. NO, not because you vehemently despise those of us who avoid counterfeit bibles, but because we’ve been encouraged not to cast our “pearls before swine”.

    Having gotten that out of the way, you need to take those very same verses your toxic tongue spewed out, and compare them with the KJV. You will see that there are huge differences!!! BE BRAVE! DO IT!

    In this case, changing a simple thing as the past, present, or future tense of a word changes the whole meaning and DOCTRINE!

    I have done up a paper on these counterfeit bibles, as I’ve said before, and they show over 32 typewritten pgs. of comparisons between the various perversions. I show errors, omissions, the changing of words, etc. I even give a background history of some of the people on the translation teams who were homosexuals and satan worshippers! It’s all there to see. Again, these bibles CANNOT bear the title of “Holy Bible” because they are satanic and anything but “Holy”! Your vehemence and hatred prove this quite nicely. My God is the God of love and grace; you’ve shown neither. I didn’t see the fruit of the Spirit being exemplified by your nasty and derogatory statement either. You have some research and repenting to do, my friend!

    You or anybody else may have a FREE copy of this damning document just for the asking! Be informed and awakened!

    Email me at: scotianprince@eastlink.com.

    I guess everyone else on this forum has no issue with what I am saying, and you’ve proven yourself to be a loud-mouthed bully, who likes to spout off things w/out considering the evidence or really not knowing what you’re talking about. That’s a dangerous foundation to build ones faith upon…sandy, very SANDY!

    You remind me of a brainwashed and die-hard Joel Osteen follower who refuses to see the truth for what it is because you’re happy to be eating / reading pig slop. Stay at the trough my friend; I’m feasting at the Master’s table and ummmmm ummm…it is mighty good! 🙂

    I forgive you HardFICTION! You didn’t know any better. By the way, have you led a soul to Christ lately?

    With hatred like that in your heart toward your brothers and sisters in Christ over this issue says, “No” would be the answer. God will not use somebody like you to do this all important mission of mercy, especially when using a tool of Satan…God only honors HIS Word, not the adulterated word that man has manipulated to prepare minds to worship satan and to accept the NWO. Not at all.

    God bless you, Hardfiction, as you muster up the courage to be a good Berean and compare the “scriptures”!

    By the way…if HardFICTION or anybody else wants to send input like he did, just so you know…I don’t waste my time reading it. God knows my heart and He knows the effort I put into “working out (my) salvation with fear and trembling”.

    Again, email me for your free copy of: “Counterfeit Bibles”. The address is scotianprince@eastlink.ca

  • bremertonchristian

    The true bible debate is a hard one. I was raised kjv only. I find I am still loyal to that translation. A few years back when I was studying Dr. Chuck Missler he said that the errors in the kjv were the most known. So the question was did God preserve His inerrant word in the kjv? I don’t know. On one hand it is hard to argue that God did not preserve His word in English for us, so the answer is yes kjv is pure. On the other hand what did people use before 1611? Finally I find it ironic that so many people are loyal to the kjv 1611, when in fact nobody even uses kjv 1611. If you don’t already know find a 1611 copy of kjv and take a look. It’s different than the one we’re used to. I still believe it’s the best English translation, and I like brother Geoffes’ article on it. I would really like to know if it is actually better than the original scrolls/codex. It seems Mr. Grider thinks it is because he gets angry when people go to the Greek for clarification. The word Jesus does not appear in the 1611 kjv. Still searching for answers, thanks yall.

  • Hardfacts

    Skywatcher, it’s perfect your real nature shows. You talk of KJV and I see how little you are vast in knowledge. As Catholics, we pride in Depth of Knowledge, Historical Strength and Phylosophical Consistency, all of which you’ve proved you lack. 1st, who was king James? When did he translate, and for what purpose? King James translated because at the time, people like you have started circulating fake bibles, and as a king, his copy came as a decree to stop wolves. It was never intended to take anything away from the original translation. Who gave you the bible, king James? The decision to include or remove any book of the bible was made in The councils of Hippo -AD 393, Carthage AD 397,419, ratified in 2nd Ecumenical Council of Nicea AD 781, Florence 1440, Trent 1525-46. Where where you and your protestantism. When did KJ write? Was Jesus an English man? Who kept those books from AD1 to the time James wrote?
    MARTIN LUTHER: What do you know about this man? Did you know that Luther rather introduced the word “ALONE” in his Germany translation of Rom 3:28, to suit his ego? Read other translations-Hebrew, Greek even that your KJV (old version), you will never see it, yet James 2:20-26 says otherwise. Did you know that for a strong resistance against his wishes, Luther almost expunged Acts, Hebrews, 1 Pet, and 3 Jn, why? You are not educated, whence name calling from you. Now you shout b’cos I call you a “hate”. I say you are an illiterate, less I challenge you to pick up your Hebrew, Greek and other translations and juxtapose those words you are arguing. So you have only one translation by the way? Your insensible argument towards the Church that gave you this very book you basterdize is like telling a Judge his hand book is lesser than your uninformed argument. Do research man and stop your hate campaign. God loves His children, you are the antichrist here.

  • Skywatcher

    Don’t be a coward, Hardfiction! Ask for the free information and I’ll gladly send it to you. Wrong or biased knowledge does NOT impress me.

    You see, the COPIES of the ancient biblical manuscripts are proof the KJV is accurate…they are word-for-word!

    Wm. Tyndale, whom the R.C. cult put to death for translating the Scriptures into English for the first time, is also a great testimony to the KJV! It matches his 1526 manuscripts to a “T”! So you see, for the past 400 years, the KJV has remained the same. The same CANNOT be said for these newer perversions that are on the market today.

    Here, have a couple of very informative video clips to boot! They’ll DEFINITELY help you to gain more knowledge about your faith that you may not be aware of. I’m always glad to help out where I can! 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M ~ Pope declares Lucifer is God and Christ is Lucifer’s son! Sound right and holy to YOU?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHsBbMBMiMY Vatican Disclosure ~ excellent 3 hr. interview! A must see!

    One more for ya! Take this before going to bed, with a strong glass of “Holy Water” and be prepared to be healed in the morning!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa4nsCYzM1w ~ The Vatican’s Project Lucifer ~ very informative! YOU tell me, Mr. Know-it-all, why an institution you consider to be the most and only holy one on the planet would have any dealings with the devil? Yep! That’s holy alright! NOT!

    Go ahead; check them out! What are ya afraid of, the truth? “The truth will set you free”.

  • Hardfacts

    Posting a video of a Latin language mass you don’t understand and inferring that the Pope is calling lucifer God is the most unkind and u friendly word a human could utter.
    I challenge you to translate the whole of the statement in English language, can you? No you can’t!! You said Mary Magdaleen

  • Hardfacts

    Posting a video of a Latin language mass you don’t understand and inferring that the Pope is calling lucifer God is the most unkind and u friendly word a human could utter.
    I challenge you to translate the whole of the statement in English language, can you? No you can’t!!

  • Hardfacts

    Skywatcher, it’s good to reduce perverts like you parading as Christians. Tell me a single lie in the history I gave you? Thank God not only you saw the history I posted. You think that closing your mind on a church, refusing to widen your knowledge of history and exuding hate will give you and your fake believe an edge. You are doomed. The reason Catholic theologians refuse to engage you here at all is because this very block has only one aim-to denigrate any person termed non protestant, again you people lack knowledge. In the school, you opened your mind to read every available text to help you pass, but when itcomes to inter religious matters, hate does not allow you see beyond your nose. Any catholic theologian here will tear you beyond where I left you. And for your info, I am a born again christian, not your way anyway. I became born again the day I was baptised, as a child for that matter by my parents of course. Unlike you who think your children going to school from kindergarten is normal, but introducing them to the family of God from day 1 is an abomination. Once more, ISIS and other terrorist groups trive in hate and fanaticism, you are exactly their prototype.
    You have a very week argument. Translate your latin Mass video into english. Mere hearing the word lucifer does not connot his worship to anyone with a free mind.
    I asked a fanatic, hate preacher like you on a day to recite or say one by one the Rosary the catholics say, surprisingly he gently told me he doesn’t know anything about it. Yet he was busy condemning it on his satanic pulpit. Worst was that to his un informed crowd, he has done his work. Christ left the corn and the weed in the farm till the last harvest, but for you, uproot everything today! You are simply intolerable. More hundreds of thousands of protestant churches will still emerge, all “inspired” by the Holy Spirit. Adieu, Requiem parce…

    • Skywatcher

      Barffacts (Hardfacts/fiction)

      Jesus told us not to cast our pearls before swine (Mt. 7:6). So, I’m going to be very short and to the point!

      “We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6: 12

      St. Paul has clearly described the R.C. cult with every word here in this one power-packed verse!

      I took a few hours to consider your attitude and the Holy Spirit has given me the words to say here. It matters not to me or the other commentators if you like them or not. What matters to them is that you come to know the REAL God of the Holy Bible, and to allow Him to remove that strong root/tree of bitterness, judgmentalism, animosity, hatred, etc. from you, and to mold you into a peaceful and loving person that He so desires you to be.

      Your battle is not with me, and you are on the losing team! You very liberally, ignorantly and vehemently throw “fiery darts of the wicked” (9v. 16), and then consider yourself a “Christian”! It takes a long stretch of the imagination to reconcile your behavior to the actions of Christ, whom you purport to follow. FYI, the word, “Christian” means “follower of the Way” (Christ, John 14: 6). Here, He says, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, NO man can come unto the Father but by me.” (Not by infant baptism, catechism, brainwashing, reciting the rosary, blessing Mary, paying penance, etc.) Based on this, you should be following His example…

      You will notice that the “hateful Protestants” (myself being the chief among them, as you’ve SO KINDLY labelled me) do not tear PEOPLE apart, but rather a very sinister and unholy INSTITUTION. We do that based on a number of important facts, which I’m not going to waste my time explaining to you! I wouldn’t be the first to do so!

      Again, if you don’t mind being confronted by the truth, go online and check out the Jesuit oath of allegiance and then look up the pope’s oath of allegiance…TOTALLY murderous, doctrinally inconsistent with the Word of God, and antichrist! Then you wonder why Protestants have so much negative stuff to say against this unholy institution? Give us a break!

      You are the epitome of antichrist; your toxic tongue drips with hatred, based upon false information and brainwashing from a child, which you’ve admitted. If you knew your Holy Bible, as the majority of R.C.’s don’t, you would recognize you’re not a child of the living God, for He “is love”, I Jn. 4: 8, 16. We have been commanded to love one another. I Corinthians 13, the “love chapter” tells us NOT to do the things that you have done in this forum.

      As for talking with a “hate preacher” and asking him to recite the rosary and he couldn’t… God bless him! This control measure and deceptive instruction is NOWHERE to be found in the HOLY Bible…Protestant or R.C.! He was 2000% right to condemn this from the pulpit! Why should we be brainwashed into believing that God has told us to do this or that when it IS NOT in HIS Word, where He tells us how we ought to worship Him and to live?

      There is a difference between assassinating an individual and attacking an institution. The institution is NOT made in the image and likeness of God, and it couldn’t give a fiddler’s g-string how you feel about it. A person on the other hand is, and s/he often does get hurt by the way you strike out at them. Is this latter an evidence of God’s love when you do this to me or others? Deep down in your heart, how do you think this makes the God of love feel about this behavior? Does it bring glory to His name, or trample it in the mud? Is it an evidence that you have His H.Spirit living within you (I Cor. 6:19)? If He really does live within you, you should be showing the fruit of the Spirit as listed in Gal. 5: 22, 23. Not seeing any of this in your comments, leaves us all without question, as to which god you serve…the god of this world, and your eternal destiny will be rewarded accordingly. It’s very plain to see.

      Do we hate you for being erroneous and ignorant of the truth? Do I despise you for not taking a few minutes to look at the video clips and to read the ENGLISH translation, and seeing that the words of the hymn being sung are giving worship and praise to Lucifer? NOT AT ALL! Didn’t it seem mighty strange to you that Lucifer is being declared in that same hymn as the father of Christ? Buddy, if you cannot see the significance here, you’re wasting your time and everybody else’s by being on this site. In fact, dirt-stirring commentators like you should be banned from being on here because that is your only purpose for being here, besides wanting to be heard, while hiding behind anonymity! Your soapbox will cave in when the Almighty swiftly cuts you down like a blade of grass in the very near future as the “refugees” get a stronger foothold in your town!

      Do we pity you and desire that you could have a wonderful and meaningful relationship with the REAL Lord Jesus Christ? You bet! I would love to be able to call you “Brother” and to treat you with love, respect, kindness, etc. At this point, I’m the one doing all the work in trying to show you these evidences of God in my life.

      In the meantime, grow a pair, and check out those links I sent to you! If you’re not a coward, then you will do this and will see why we LOVE the R. C. people so much, but despise their satanic institution. It IS up to no good, just as it has been throughout its entire history!

      I don’t mess around with allowing people to stew comfortably in their sin. I don’t sugar-coat their wrong, but I expose it with the Word of God, and there is no greater authority.

      We Protestant Christians know our history and how the Vatican did many unspeakable and unimaginable things to the “infidels” for the past several hundreds of years. You’re obviously ignorant of this part of the Vatican’s history or in total denial. Get yourself a copy of Foxe’s Book of Martyrs and read hundreds of pages of the horrendous tortures and killings of innocent Protestant people who didn’t deserve to die, but gladly did so, praising the Lord Jesus Christ all the way through!

      Every Christian should have a copy of this in their library, after all, if Christ doesn’t come in the next year or so, many of us here, will have to lay our lives down for Him. This book will give you plenty of encouragement and strength to endure such treatment! Worth it’s weight in gold and very inexpensive on Amazon.com!

      As I said, your battle is with the Lord, and I’m not wasting any more precious time wherein Satan might get a lick of glory! NO sirree, Bubba! You’re on your own, just as you will be when you stand naked in front of the Almighty on Judgment Day, and He says, “Why didn’t you receive my son?” Your mouth will be shut; you won’t be able to answer and YOUR name will NOT be found in the Lamb’s Book of Life (Rev. 20: 15), because at that point, it’s into the Lake of Fire for all eternity. You’ll have ample time to ask yourself, “Why didn’t I listen? Why didn’t I look at the information that was given me? Why was I so mean-mouthed and cruel to the truth-bearers? Why, why WHY?” It will be too late for you then, my friend, because God’s Word says, “…it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this, the judgment…”

      Your very limited knowledge of Latin does not impress me, my friend! Satan knows every language in the world; hang with him a little longer and you can share in his reward.

  • “Die artikel is bitter verdraaid en “aspris” geskryf, lyk dit vir my. Soos hulle self aanhaal, het die Pous verduidelik dat “menslik gesproke” Jesus se dood aan die kruis ‘n mislukking was. Ek dink dit is dalk juis die punt wat hy probeer verduidelik het, nl dat wat soms vir die mens onsinnig en hopeloos lyk, juis God se goeie nuus is. Moslems is nie ons broers en susters in Christus nie, maar hy het dalk net bedoel dat ons hulle as mede-mense moet respekteer. Deurdat hy respekvol met Moslems kommunikeer, mag hy dus ook ‘n kans kry om deur hulle gehoor te word. Hierdie artikel kan redelik skade doen omdat dit eintlik venynig klink.”

  • Katy

    The picture above appears rather Romanesque…..and this is what masquerades at being a follower and believer in Jesus, the Christ, in these last days?

    Wow, how the blind sheep love their human idols. LORD have mercy.

  • Matti Toivola

    2Tim:4;1. I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
    2. Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
    3. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
    5. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

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  • edwitness

    Kathy,
    The real lack of understanding is proven by the more than 100 anathemas that the RC religion has against protestants.

  • edwitness

    Kathy,
    You don’t pray to people. Christians pray to God.

  • Hien Nguyen

    The cross is both a failure and a success. It’s a failure of the political and religious system to defeat the love of god.
    It’s a success of Jesus to suffer and give it all to the hand of the father 🙂

  • Tim

    Please, friends, be reasonable.

    The Pope did not say that Jesus, or the Cross, was failure…not in reality. Only in the eyes of the world. Please read the full text of the homily for yourself. Don not let hatemongers tell you what to believe. Read it for yourself.

    I spent 53 years in Protestant churches an heard many preachers and teachers say the same thing…that to the world, Christ was a failure. And nobody said a thing. But when the Pope says it…gee wiz…Protestants can’t understand. You don’t want to.

    I do not mean all Protestants. Most understand and agree with the Pope’s statement. It is hatemonger sites like this one that twist it into their own wishes to deceive people.

    Please don’t be one that is deceived. Check it out for yourself.

    Tim

  • Hardfacts

    Many thanks @Tim. ‘am encouraged.

  • DR. GLORIA CAMARAO

    At Calvary Jesus accomplished the three great works as evidences of God’s unconditional love for man that includes: 1) Jesus being sinless the only qualified propitiation for our sins that will appease God’s wrath against sin. Jesus voluntarily offered His life, because Hoe alone knows the greatness of God’s unconditional love for man (John 3:16) 2) God redeemed man from His separated state by reaching out to Him through Jesus redemption of us sinners from a condemned state, and 3) through His blood we are washed, forgiven and cleansed and have become holy and pure redeemed by His blood. There is no law on earth or heaven that can accuse us of any wrongdoing. The power of sin over us is cut off on the Cross. How can POPE SAY AND CONCLUDE THAT JESUS AT THE CROSS WAS A TOTAL FAILURE. THE POPE IS THE FAILURE AND WILL SURELY GO TO HELL WITH HIS PRONOUNCEMENT.

  • Ngwashi

    hey hey hey rational idiots calm down. we do not read the bible placing it up side down or standing in the sun or from a single verse, chapter or book. Scripture is not a book of information, it is a book of faith written by men of faith to people of faith. it should be interpreted as a whole. The Book of Revelation is a book of sign with a lot of eschatological meaning and must be interpreted from the background perspective of st. John. guys stop creating confusion if you don’t know that God freely became man in order to save man and chose man to administer the pilgrim church. The resurrection redeemed humanity and everyone by no fault of his own had not known Christ will be saved by the blood of Christ. i do not mean u who knows and explicitly reject his invitation. the moment of truth is death and not religion or church or the Pope because even the pope is a poor suffering like u and i who prays everyday, who celebrates mass everyday, who attains retreats, who listens to others preach to him too, who goes for confession and in his ministry uniting souls back to Christ. u who knows much keep it up and multiply as many nonsense as you can. There have been crusades yes and what do u know about history and the Islamic conquests. just try an isolated example in scriptures such as the book of Joshua and let me know how u sanction the acts of Joshua. Jesus is not stupid giving Mary to John at the foot of the cross +THE MOMENT OF TRUTH IS DEATH.

  • Lightbearer

    He states his wish as though it were fact, perhaps attempting to affect the outcome. In secret he only WANTS the failure of Christ without even so much as having to go to war with his army. I suspect that Francis is in fact the false prophet spoken of in scripture. The enemies of God think they’ve developed the ability to override prophecy, which is why they so thoroughly believe that they can beat God and accomplish Satan’s goal of claiming God’s throne as his own. Remember, Satan wants to get revenge on Archangel Michael (who is likely Christ himself) for tossing him out of Heaven. Satan STILL wants to rule the kingdom of Heaven. Satan and his followers are so arrogant as to believe that they can defeat God without even having to war with his army. They think they can avoid armageddon and still win. They will find out otherwise soon enough. The power of God’s Light is underestimated. There will be a fair fight. The words of Francis run hollow and he will meet his humiliation upon the Day of Judgement and Justice.

    • edwitness

      Lightbearer,
      Are you SDA? Or maybe JW? How do you come to the notion that Christ is the archangel Michael? Angels are created beings. Jesus Christ has no beginning and no end. He is eternal. He is the Creator. He is not a part of creation. Col.1:16,17

  • Katrina Burgess

    Among them, we are told it is not our place to judge anyone. Only God has that right. We are informed on what God beleives in and his views on many subjects from homosexuality to false prophets. Those are Gods views not ours. As his creation, I can not judge I must love they neighbor from my heart and be the best version of me I can be.

    • Edwitness

      Katrina,
      Jesus told those who were not born again not to judge. Later Paul told those who are “spiritual” that they were to judge all things. Yet they would be judged by no man. 1stCor.2:14,15. When a spiritual person judges, it is the love of God shed abroad in his heart that guides him. Rom.5:3-5.
      Blessings:-}

  • marlio

    we dont pray to mary and never have.

    • That is 100% not true. All Catholic pray to Mary. I went to 12 years of hardcore, private Catholic school and we prayed to Mary all the time. I think it’s time for Catholics to own up to it and ADMIT they pray to another human being. For example, this is an official Catholic prayer to Mary not only for help but for SALVATION, so you get to commit both heresy and blasphemy at the same time:

      “O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of every grace that God grants us in our misery; it is for this cause that He hath made thee so powerful, so rich, so kind, that thou mightest assist us in our miseries. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners, if they but come unto thee; come once more to my assistance, for I commend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation; to thee I entrust my soul.”

      So again I ask you, if you insist on praying to the dead woman, at least admit to it. Have some guts please…

  • ARCHIE DOMINIC SUNDAY

    THE CROSS WAS INTRUDUCE TO US BY CONSTANTIN THE GRATE, IT NOT THE CROSS WERE OUR SAVIOUR YAHSHUA HA MESSIAH WAS DIED, BUT IN POST,PLEASE DO SEARCH IN INTERNET WHO IS YAHSHUA? AND WHO IS JESUS.WHAT DO YOU MEAN JE-SUS? SALVATION WILL COME FROM THE HEBREW.AND YAHSHUA IS A HEBREW(INRI) WAS WRITTEN ON TOP OF HIS HEAD INRI MEANS – YAHSHUA NAZAREBO KING OFTHE JEWS. AND TH ENAME JESUS IS A LATIN GREEK

  • o lawd

    You guys are nuts. Benedict was the false prophet, no wait. It was John Paul 2. No wait, it was John Paul 1. Oh wait it was Paul VI. No wait John 23. Eventually one of the popes right ? Never a Archbishop of Canterbury or Orthodox Patriarch ? Why not a mega Church pastor ? Lack of imaginations you hate mongers ?

  • This website is questionable with all the advertisements to make mono-eye.

    I would not have these ads running and be associated with the enemy. That’s a red light going off…

    The pope is not the antichrist, only Nimrod fits into the requirements…

    • Funny you should mention Nimrod, as the Catholic church gets most of what they do from ancient Babylonian rituals.

  • Anthonie

    “This website is questionable with all the advertisements to make mono-eye.

    I would not have these ads running and be associated with the enemy. That’s a red light going off… ”

    Please answer this remark made by David.

  • Tachyonics

    Pope Francis is the Antichrist. Jesus won at the cross because he sticks to his principle of love and forgiveness to the end.

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