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Obama Shrugs Off Congress, Prepares To Attack Syria Regardless

| September 6, 2013

Obama’s Secret Service codename is RENEGADE, and he has no intention something as insignificant as Congress voting no stop him from inflicting his blood lust on Syria in support of the Al-Qaeda rebels.

“And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done..” Daniel 11:36

ABC News: US is planning an aerial strike in addition to a salvo of Tomahawk missiles from Navy destroyers.
New York Times: Obama ordered expansion of list of targets following reports Assad moved troops, equipment.

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Despite statements from both US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry that a US-led strike on Syria would be a “limited and tailored” military attack, ABC News reported on Thursday that the strike planned by Obama’s national security team is “significantly larger” than most have anticipated.

According to ABC News, in additional to a salvo of 200 Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from four Navy destroyers stationed in the eastern Mediterranean, the US is also planning an aerial campaign that is expected to last two days.

This campaign potentially includes an aerial bombardment of missiles and long range bombs from US-based B-2 stealth bombers that carry satellite-guided bombs, B-52 bombers, that can carry air-launched cruise missiles and Qatar-based B-1s that carry long-range, air-to-surface missiles, both ABC News and The New York Times reported.

“This military strike will do more damage to [Syrian President Bashar] Assad’s forces in 48 hours than the Syrian rebels have done in two years,” a national security official told ABC News.

Meanwhile, Obama has directed the Pentagon to expand the list of potential targets in Syria following reports Assad’s forces have moved troops and equipment used to employ chemical weapons in anticipation of the US-led strike against them, the Times reported on Thursday.

In order to degrade Assad’s ability to use chemical weapons, the list of 50 or so major sites has to be expected, officials told the Times.

Targets include military units that have stored and prepared the chemical weapons, as well as headquarters who ordered the attacks and units who carried them out. Other targets include rockets and artillery that have launched the attacks, the Times quotes military officials as saying.

US military chief of staff Martin Dempsey said targets would also include equipment used to protect the chemicals – air defenses, long-range missiles and rockets. The attack would not target the chemical stockpiles in fear that doing so could cause catastrophe.

Price tag

In Washington, US lawmakers questioned the possible price tag of a military operation in Syria. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel told Congress on Wednesday the military operation is expected to cost “tens of millions” of dollars, according to AFP. This estimate is based on the assumption the military intervention in Syria would only last a few days.

A single Tomahawk missile costs $1.5 million, while keeping some ships in the area would cost millions more, Navy chief Admiral Jonathan Greenert said on Thursday, but those numbers are “not extraordinary at this point.”

In addition to the four destroyers the US Navy currently has stationed in the Mediterranean, aircraft carrier Nimitz and accompanying warships are ready at the Red Sea in case they are needed. The carrier strike group costs up to $40 million a week if the aircraft on board are engaged in combat-related flights, while routine operations cost $25 million a week, Greenert said. source – JPost

 

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  1. bob jones says:

    ABC News must have meant that the military strikes would do more damage than the Al-Qaeda “protestors” have accomplished in their two year battle to overthrow a legitimate government and put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge. You know, Barry’s boys.

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  3. Dennis says:

    Obama has been dubbed by many as not being qualified and being incompetent for a president. To the contrary. He has done exactly what he planned on doing . Taking America down financially, morally, politically, militarily, and every other way. This whole issue of threatening to strike Syria could be a distraction to take our eyes off of the other important issues lurking on the table i.e. Obama care, immigration, Bengazi, on and on..
    Whatever he is plotting will cost our country dearly in many ways. He is not ignorant. He knows how to work the system. As a former student of Marxism and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood he has no other interests than to do everything that he can to topple this United States of America in the time he has. The handwriting is on the wall. Praise be to God. Our redemption draweth nigh.

    • Steve says:

      Dennis:

      Great article!!

      Thanks for your contribution on this blog.

      One day closer to Jesus coming for the church!!

    • Tracy says:

      @Dennis,
      I have thought the same thing all along. He knows exactly what he is doing. I still believe he has some type of evil power helping him move along. Also, he has always, and is going to continue to do exactly as he wants; he doesn’t fear impeachment. Nothing to worry about in his dark mind.
      It’s got to be very difficult for our servicemen to serve under this man as commander-and-chief. I honestly wish our military would refuse his orders, and not strike Syria. Just come home and let the global elite worry about it. They certainly don’t care about the lives of our military. Obama and Hillary have already proven that much.
      God will one day say enough, and Obama and cohorts will know who really is in charge.
      God help us all.

      • Bristol says:

        I agree Tracy…obama has some sort of evil force and protection around him. No president has ever gotten away with even a fraction of what he has done! God is in control though. We just need to remember that and pray and pray some more!:)

  4. STL says:

    Good for Presiodent Obama!

    He’s doing God’s will!

  5. Brad Duncan says:

    Dennis is right on target! Nobody can be as stupid as Obama has made himself look while using his evil genius to destroy the United States of America from within while the duped millions of our fellow citizens ignorantly served as his accomplices by affording him the opportunity to do his dirty work while masquerading as the nation’s Savior. Many of us have been warning those within our scope of contact about this ignominious scam for years but alas and apparently to no avail.

  6. Don says:

    Dennis, good post. Obama also knows he is starting a war with Israel. This is a fact that the media hasn’t seemed to figure out yet, but Christians can see it.

  7. “Change is coming!”

    Mr Obama is the only Politician I know of that has, is, and will continue to fully keep his campaign promise.

    He will go down in history…and then down into the pit.

  8. STL says:

    Brad: The biggest down fall of the USA, why they are not listening to the people, its very simple GREED!

    We as Christians needs to allow God to do his work on USA and our world, sooner the better, we will be home in heaven.

  9. STL says:

    Steve: The Rapture is upon us!

  10. STL says:

    Mike: at least Obama will not be lonely in the pit!

  11. MNM says:

    In my personal opinion, this is what bengazi was all about. They needed a huge destraction to get thes chemical weapons to the rebels for this very reason. This is why they were all told to stand down and no reinforcement was sent to assist. Everything you hear from the main stream media is all lies. Its all part of their satanic plan. To destroy America from the inside out. I expect a huge false flag to go down in the US very soon. Much bigger then the 911 false flag. Then comes total chaos martial law and fema camps. I’m so greatful to have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I would still be lost if it wasn’t. For Him. God Bless.

    • Marie says:

      Excellent point MNM.
      They wanted to move the chem weapons to Syria so that Obama would have an excuse to attack and start the world wide conflagration of Exekiel 38, 39. Obama just wants any excuse to attack Israel. But they do not know or care that God will protect Israel and defeat these hoardes of armies. It will take Israel 7 years for the Israelis to bury the bodies.

  12. REID says:

    i would expect that Syrian AA units and their own cruise missile batteries are manned by Russian, North Korean & Chinese operators as happened during the Korean and Vietnam wars. The Syrians don’t have the time to acquire such weapons and train indigenous troops to use them. can US ships fend off all attacks ? Remember even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

  13. Marie says:

    How do Obama and the elite plan to escape the coming destruction? Where do they think that they will they escape to? We all live on the same planet!

  14. STL says:

    Marie: i’m not sure you should said years than months. In Ezekiel 39: 12- For 7 months the house of Isreal will be burying them in order to cleanse the land.

  15. shelly says:

    Where is the money coming from? Obama promising no more3-5 million vacations? Is he ready to drop all on Capital Hill to 25000 a yr salary? Who is gonna fight it, I say he goes with the strikes.

    • Jody says:

      Shelly: Several Arab countries have offered Obama a HUGE amount of money to send OUR troops into Syria, and remove Assad! That’s where the money will come from for the war, if he takes it that far. I believe he will! Harry Reid has already said he wants the Senate to approve troops going in. Obama wants to turn our precious young men into mercenaries, and sacrifice their lives so he can pad his wallet! He is truly evil! Even his strikes will cost much more than the Pentagon says: Tomahawk missiles cost $1.5 million each; 200 of them cost $300 million! Then, the cost of fueling aircraft, the cost of lost aircraft (about $25-30 million each), all the bombs dropped, the cost of LIVES! Whoever said “10’s of millions” was probably under pressure NOT to tell the truth. If the Muslim in the Oval Office sends our troops in – the Pentagon estimated a minimum of 75,000 will be needed – he will knowingly, and willingly, start WWIII. He wants Iran to attack Israel – that’s a given. Turkey is our ally, too, and he knows they will be attacked. He just doesn’t care! Maybe NATO should just tie him down while he’s over there in Russia right now, and “lose” him! (Joking, sort of.) Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus. We are watching for You!

  16. Leo says:

    Why should this seem as a whirlwind of unsuspected news ? We are dealing with the lawless one . Right ? go figure .

    http://youtu.be/O7IDCWWxa3w

  17. STL says:

    Shelly: Here comes the Firestorm!

  18. STL says:

    Tracy: It will be easy for Servicemen to served Obama and then the Antichrist. Because Obama has discharge most christians and he has done way with christian values. Your thinking in past tense, these are the Birth Pangs Jesus spoke of, every thing is moving at a faster rate now!

    Soon we will be caught up to heaven.

  19. Paul says:


    http://youtu.be/421RpamnW6A
    19 Biblical Antichrist Characteristics That Match ONE Man and ONE Man Alone!
    1. More Arrogant, and self centered than the others before him (what the Bible means by stout, is arrogant & Self Centered obama is the EPITOME of These) Dan 7:20

    2. Stern or fierce faced. (Obama has a very stern and fierce face when he wants to use it) Daniel 8:23

    3. Generally different or unique amongst politicians. (First African American Leader of a HUGE Nation, cant get ANY “more “different” than that) Daniel 7:24

    4. A great unifier who effectively appeals to people across traditional lines of division; will be revered by all (except saints). (Most of the world loves him now, when the Holy Spirit Leaves, and satan possesses Obama & man, MOST will worship Him) Rev 13:3

    5. Seeks total political control for own glory, not democratic republic or anything really for the people. (EVERYTHING obama does is for his OWN GLORY) 2 Th 2:4

    6. Icon of earthly success. (People fail to realize he HAS PURPOSELY RUINED us, and this is SUCCEEDING, NOT FAILING. He also became an instant U.S. Senator, and President with little experience, came out of nowhere) Daniel 8:24

    7. Politically rises from sub-national leadership position, like a governor. (became a U.S. Senator, & President with little experience, came out of nowhere) Daniel 7:8,11; 8:9

    8. Will be shrewd, cunning, deceitful, skilled in intrigue. (Obama to a TEE) Daniel 8:25

    9. Empowered through others. (A U.S. president is POWERLESS himself, his power is from “others” the system) Daniel 8:24

    10. Stubborn, relentless, mega-ambitious visionary with far reaching goals. (BINGO)

    11. Vicious, violent, cruel, lacks regard for life. (abortion, gun murders, etc) Daniel 8:25

    12. Extraordinarily proud and boastful. (100% OBAMA) Daniel 7:8, 11, 20, 8:25

    13. Disdain for women. (GAY which obama is, his marriage is a front to give him clout, or effiminate, which he also is) Dan 11:37

    14. Inwardly a godless megalomaniac. (OH YES, EXACTLY) Daniel 7:21, 25, 8:10-11, 25

    15. Mega-liar who actively opposes truth. (BIGGEST LIAR EVER) Daniel 8:11, 23, 25
    16. Morally bankrupt hedonist. (DEFINITELY)

    17. Foreshadowed by historical types including King Saul, Nebuchadnezzar, Caesar, Hitler.

    18. Professing Christian, empowered by False Prophet, Christian support. (MUSLIM)
    2 Cor 11:3-15

    19. Name numerically tallies to 666. “Barack Hussein Obama” (18 divided by 3 = 6, 3 6’s, =666, obama’s name) Rev 13:17-18
    *****************************************************************
    Also interesting that the ANTICHRIST (obama) recently gave back a portion of his salary, that he claims he was overpaid. How much you ask? $6,666.66.!!!
    Obama is depicted as Christ or God in NUMEROUS magazines, pictures & Paintings
    His 2008 slogan “yes we can” when backmasked CLEARLY says “Thank you satan” You can see the antichrist BEAMING as MILLIONS EVERYWHERE thank his god satan right along with him, as he does.! http://youtu.be/jqALdkTArqs
    His favorite limo is named “the beast”!
    Doctors have stated that the best place for RFID Chips in obamacare, when he finally makes them mandatory, tentative date now is around 2017 (if rapture happens sometime this year, would put the date right at mid-Tribulation, when he becomes desecrates the Temple and goes after Jews and Christians) to be placed in either the hand or the forehead…
    http://www.fivedoves.com/ac/kevinh319.htm (Barack and 666 degrees of a circle)
    His Chicago zipcode: 60606
    Baraq U/OBamaw in Hebrew means: Satan fell from the heights like lightning
    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=12 Interesting 666 pic
    In each of the following on the day it occured, the Illinois lottery winning # was 666:
    16 January 2008 – One year anniversary of 0bama announcing his candidacy for President.
    22 March 2008 – New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson endorses 0bama, Hillary’s campaign withers.
    23 October 2008 – The New York Times officially endorses 0bama
    05 November 2008 – 0bama wins the general election, defeating John McCain for President.

    Final Musings On obama and 666:

    When Barack Hussein Obama Leaves the white house by 20 January 2017, it will be 666 months from the month that he was born.

    216 connection. 216 = 6 x 6 x 6.

    The number 216 has EXTENSIVE links to occult phenomenon. This includes the fact that 216 is 6x6x6. This means that 216 is illuminist code for 666. more:

    Barack Obama Born 4 August 1961 the 216th day of the year. 6x6x6

    Barack Hussein Obama Born Honolulu, Hawaii 21.6 latitude 6x6x6
    He obtains passage of Obamacare legislation with an odd requirement of 216 votes 6x6x6 (usually takes 218 votes to pass a law.
    He signed off on twitter with the number 666

    The odds now, with this new information, that the antichrist could be anyone else is roughly: Graham’s number simply written as 3 3. Too large to communicate!!!

  20. Hey people… Check out the “Obama Supported Syria…” thread from yesterday. A lot of posts have been deleted. I have asked the moderator why, and not received any type of reply. He removed posts relating to the USS Liberty incident.

    Wonder why??

  21. Daphne says:

    I now have little doubt that Obama is the A/C. Has anyone seen the new Secretary of State in the Vatican’s name? His name means literally ‘Peter the Roman’ when translated to English. Lord help us all. I can hardly wait to get off this demon infested rock!

  22. Daphne says:

    He could be the precursor to the A/C. He is definitely an antichrist by all accounts. He has a similar personality to people like Adolf Hitler, Stalin and other antichrist like personalities that killed off millions.

  23. STL says:

    Hello Suez, I and Ron are getting alone alot better, that a blessing!

  24. Dennis says:

    To Daphne;
    You are saying that you have little doubt meaning that you think Obama could be the Ant-Christ? Please also explain a little more about your understanding of Peter The Roman and the Vatican.

  25. Daphne says:

    Pietro Pirolin, the new Secretary of State in the Vatican’s name means literally, Peter the Roman. see http://youtu.be/RXiQUbmzA9k. As for Obama, I guess we will see, yet he could well be the A/C.

  26. Dennis says:

    Very interesting about the Secretary of State in the Vatican. As for Obama, he does not fit as Ant-Christ with “A/C”. Daniel 9:26 puts the A/C being of Roman
    bloodline, not African or Middle Eastern. There is a war prophesied to break the powers of Islam. What Obama is attempting to do with Syria could certainly be the fuse that ignites a war that will engulf many countries and cause the collapse of the Islamic nations. The 12th Imam will be short lived. Israel will prevail. Somewhere along here will be the beginning of the Tribulation. Obama is just one player in this whole arena. As Christians, we are to watch and keep our lamps lit. In other words…let our light shine. Tell others…Jesus is coming soon! Perhaps I should say…warn others.

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
      Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

      Dennis, the Bible never contradicts itself. It was the Syrian that sacked Israel under as falling Roman empire. The beast with the 4 wings of an eagle, refer to the Gracian empire. Syria is one of these 4 wings( horns).

      Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. Check Rev. 13:2 for the leopard.

      Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
      Dan 8:22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
      Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
      Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
      You are looking at the red & black& pale horseman here.
      Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
      This showing his white horseman traits, and his final destruction.

      Dan 11:3 And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.
      Dan 11:4 And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those.
      Here we can see Alexander once again. Alexander’s Kingdom was broken into 4 were, Greece, Turkey, Syria, and Egypt. The King of the north and the King of the south are subjects of the scenario played through out the 11th chapter of Daniel. The King of the north being the antichrist. It is clear to see Egypt being the king of the south, but not so clear as to who could be the king of the north, Turkey or Syria. If we refer back to the 4 winds, then Turkey should be the correct choice, but was that what he was implying? Syria is the northern kingdom above Israel, I believe that is what he was implying. Syria has shrunk in size since those days of Alexander’s kingdom. Lebanon was part of Syria at the time.
      Roman was not the symbol for Iron, Syria is. Roman is satans decoy, always has been. since the empire formed , just to disprove Daniels prophesies.

  27. Daphne says:

    Do not forget the English link to Obama, through his mother, he is connected to the Queen. The Windsors came from Germany which was well within the Roman Empire.
    The 12th Iman certainly appears to be the AntiChrist who will reign for 7 years.

    • Ron Murphy says:

      The trouble with that the Roman Empire never did scatter the Jews therefore can not the one of the Horn. Roman does not fit into End time prophecy, She is just satans decoy.

  28. Daphne says:

    The Romans destroyed the Temple in 70 AD, but in 135 AD after the last uprising, they took the majority of the Jews captive, many to Rome as slaves. The rest fled, scattered throughout the world. So the Roman Empire did scatter the Jews one way or another.
    Also remember, the Roman Empire was later divided into east and west. The east eventually conquered by Islamic armies.

      • Ron Murphy says:

        Daniel did not say the kingdom destroyed the city, but the people of the prince to come.

        • Ron Murphy says:

          Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

          Here is another clue.

          Isa 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
          Isa 14:26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.
          Isa 14:27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?
          Isa 14:28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.
          Isa 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
          Isa 14:30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.
          Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
          Isa 14:32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

          It is plain to see from earlier in the chapter, the connection with satan and the antichrist, Isa.14:9-19.

          Eze 28:3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
          Eze 28:4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
          Eze 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:
          Eze 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;
          Eze 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
          Eze 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
          Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
          Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
          Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
          Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

  29. STL says:

    Ron: we need to watch our rants about non- christian viwes, we are representatives of God! Boy I spent alot of time in prayer last night asking Jesus forgiveness about me voicing my opinions to other people like DC, but I’m still unhappy with him, because he placed himself above God, because from his opinions about others who he would not discussed any possiblities than his own!

  30. STL says:

    Ron: TYPO= viwes=views
    This chinese key broad I just brought is a piece of crap!

  31. STL says:

    Bristol: I believe the Antichrist is working hard in the back ground, benefiting Obama. Antichrist is in a hurry to take world power.

  32. STL says:

    Ron: Why is everyone in a hurry to know who the Antichrist is, as soon we find out, crap is going to hit the fan! Then everyone, why, did I push that issue?

    I still believe we have at least one more year, before Tribulation starts?

  33. STL says:

    RON and Brenda: As we were talking about Prepping, if you need help, I’m at your service! Soon VA will be giving me my back pay, God always helps me, if I help others. So you need some cash, to store up food, just name it!

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Thank you, Brother. The I appreciate your jester. I believe we will be alright. I have good survival skills. been practicing for a long time. I believe we are somewhat ready. I would recommend getting a good air gun and lots of ammo, to anybody wanting to prep for the time. A good place would be Arizona Airgun or Pyramyd Air in the East. Canada Has the best prices of all at Speciality Shooters Outdoors. Another money saver is Big Supply Shop. These Items might be a life saver if survival becomes desperate.

  34. STL says:

    Suez: same goes for your family too, what am I going to do with all those back funds, so you need help, say so?

    • suez says:

      @Steven, your very kind heart-ed Steve. Just pray and ask God what you are to do with your money. But please use wisdom, because many would take advantage of you. The Lord give you wisdom, in Jesus name! :-)

  35. STL says:

    Tracy: as for Suez and Ron, need help say so, in about 30 days, I’ll be getting my back pay!

    • Tracy says:

      STL,
      That is so kind of you to think of us, but I agree with Suez about praying about it, and to allow God to show you what you need to do. Please be very careful about what you say online.
      Always stay focused on Him, and He will guide your paths.
      Blessings

  36. STL says:

    SUEZ: When the money is deposit: I’ll need your full name and address, its my choice!

  37. suez says:

    Anyone seen or heard about the government shutting off some of the electricity in Nov.? http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/09/07/when-the-lights-go-out-on-november-13-2013/ Nov. 13-14 or longer? Read it, it is interesting. Even if it doesn’t happen, to be prepared is better than not!!

  38. STL says:

    Ron; Under Executive Order 13603 Obama can shut the power off, and create martial law, this suppose to happen in Nov. 13 & 14. I guess we need to stock up on some foods. I contacted Friday, I electric company here in Mazatlan, Mexico said, this is a possiblity! Oh! Crap!

    So Canada. USA and Mexico will be in this drill, I believe Obama will get your attention?

    • Ron Murphy says:

      That’s not good at all. But on the other hand it might be good practice for the trib. Not long ago 2009 we had our power of for 14 days in a winter storm. And then another time it was of 9 day last year in a major summer storm. We are used to a little of that. I’m bless to live where I do the I can get water from the creek if I must. I have a wood stove I’m ready to install soon. Be checking out stove on you tube called rocket stoves. Might be handy.

  39. Jody says:

    If you guys want the very BEST idea for food when the Anti-Christ cuts us all off, I saw it. It’s a large aquarium that you use to grow fish, but also use for aquaponics: growing fruits and vegetables in water. I’ll go back and try to find the weg site for you, if anyone is interested. It’s not super-simple, but it’s not hard, either. And, it’s NOT valuable enough that Obama could send his storm troopers to confiscate it! One of them would keep a family of five alive forever, if you do it right.

  40. Daphne says:

    Perhaps we have another year, but remember that the 4 Tetrads or Blood Moons on Feast Days begin next year on Passover. The last one in 1966-67 Israel took Jerusalem, The one before that 1947-48 was Israel begin born in a day just as Is,66:8 predicted. Whatever happens it is all pretty exciting :)

  41. STL says:

    Ron: this has nothing to do with electric going off for a few days, its about controling us. Its Martial Law, there will not be any arrest, everyone caught braking this federal law, will be shot and killed!

    He’s King Obama controling 3 countries!

  42. Daphne says:

    It is exciting because it means we will be going home. It is downright horrifying for those that will be left to live through those times. How I pray that all will turn to our Lord, but I know that they won’t. As for us, we must put on the whole armour of God every day (Eph 6) until we go home.

  43. STL says:

    Tracy: Please stay indoors after dark on Nov. 13 & 14, 2013 and buy water and candles. By Executive Order 13603, King Obama will enacted Martial Law, anyone out after dark will be killed!

    No Electric in the USA, Canada and Mexico.

    King Obama is enacted One World Government, as these 3 countries will be one country!

  44. STL says:

    RON: when the treaty is enacted, christians will be on the run, like President Bush said, DEAD OE ALIVE!

  45. STL says:

    RON: We have enough food for 1 year and I have enough food stored in the jungles here for 6 months, I have a cross bow for hunting. If that does not work out, I have 38 foot sail boat in port, with can goods for 6 months, I can sail out in the Pacific Ocean, eat fish beloe the equator, because all water above it has radiation in the ocean from Japan’s Nuclear plant.

    So do you believe I’m prepared?

  46. Ron Murphy says:

    Looks like you might be setting pretty good, down your way. Since you got a lot coming in, I still would suggest a good air gun. I’m sure you still have good marksman skills. You will more than likely make it until the Lord comes, if your family don’t turn you in, first.

    • suez says:

      @Ron, a air gun? What will that do? Never heard of it…:-)

      • Ron Murphy says:

        Well it’s a little hard to learn to shoot, practice is important. They pack enough punch to take down a rabbit if a head shot can be made, out to about 50 yrd or more. But in a survival situation you could take large birds fairly easy. Air guns have evolved in the past 20 years to be very accurate and powerful. What used to be a childs toy has become an excellent cheap shooting instrument. Not your red rider, but an adult air rifle shooting pellets of special function. They cost as much as a real firearm. Their advantages: quiet, cheap to stock ammo, and in most States there isn’t any laws governing them, as long as an adult does the buying. A pistol air gun would not be as handy as a rifle for survival. Accuracy is high important in air guns. If you would ever decide to purchase one, I can help you will that, I’m nearly an expert on them. You can expect to spend as much as from $300 to about $800. on gun and scope. 500 high quality pellets will run you about $15 after shipping. Google Pyramyd Air for Information. They got videos, add online catalog to cover much information on these gun, I buy my pellets there, but find better prices on guns else where. I would highly recommend a spring piston gun, as they are highly reliable.

        • suez says:

          @Ron, thanks for the info. I looked on that site last night. I been thinking about getting a real pistol, but being able to by ammo is getting hard. I thought about a cross bow, but I don’t know if I would have strength enough to cock it or what ever the word it…:-) I can shoot, my dad taught me when I was a kid, he was a hunter. But I was never into killing animals…:-( I’m kinda a natural at shooting, even though I hardly do it. My son and grandson came over with g-son’s BB gun. We live in the country. I out-shot them all including my husband…lol And I hadn’t shot in years!! :-) They were not to happy about that, but I found it most amusing!! :-) I wouldn’t have a clue what to buy,,in the area of a air gun. Can they take down a man?? lol

          • Ron Murphy says:

            No, they are no good for defense at all, just enough power to make someone mad. LOL . Should be bought for survival only. But that’s one Uncle Sam wouldn’t be interested in taking away from you either. I have a German made gun in .22 caliber pellet shooting at about 700 ft per second. Highly accurate, with the right pellet. it cost me about $500 from Canada. Then I had to buy a scope. My Sister bought one for under $300 with a scope. It is not my gun but does the job. It’s a little hard to cock and trigger is ruff. They all are heavy to hold.

  47. Leo says:

    Obama (The devil) IS NOT dong Gods will totally the opposite .

  48. STL says:

    Ron: I have two brothers, both millionaires, I really do not think they care what I do, have not seen them since 1998. Rest my family is dead an gone!

    How about a spear-gun?

  49. STL says:

    Ron: It appears I listened to God, back in the 1970’s!

  50. STL says:

    Ron: When I first recieved Salvation, I was a Post-Tribber, but with many years searching the scriptures, I became a Pre-Tribber.

  51. STL says:

    Ron: You believe the Magog war is at the end of the Tribulation, but your wrong, and I can prove it!

    Ezekiel Chapter 38 & 39 and Rev. 20: 7-9 these 2 are so similar.

    This also leads to wrong conclusion on the time frame of the prophecies.

    The solution to this impasse is to forget the identity question and see that Ezek. 38 & 39 are not one, but 2 seperate future wars. Then when you link them up to parallel prophecies in Revelation.

    The timing of these 2 wars becomes clear.

    See evidence: http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/gog-magog.htm

    • Ron Murphy says:

      OK, but just to clear up confusion, I believe the Magog war is not at the end of tribulation at all, but after tribulation and after the rapture, which is after tribulation. The wrath of God comes after tribulation. The rapture in in between the two. The Battle of the Lord in Rev. 19:14,15 is the same as Magog and it is also referred to battle of Armageddon. Rev 16:16. We are resurrected and raptured to be taken to heaven to prepare to come back with the Lord to fight in the battle.
      Rev. 19:14,
      Zec_14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

      The battle you speak of in Rev.20: 6,7 does not contain horses, it is not even a battle. It is the nations gathered once again after the Millennium to battle, but the saints do not fight, it is the Lord God that sends fire out of heaven to destroy then at once.
      The battle spoken of in Ezek. 38& 39 is the same as the battle in:

      Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
      Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
      Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
      Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
      Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

      This war was the result of the Gathering of the nations:

      Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
      Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

      Proof is in Jesus’ reign 7th vial when He takes the kingdom away from the beast:

      Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
      Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

      Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

      Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

      Open you eyes! It’s right in here!

  52. Ron Murphy says:

    Eze 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
    Eze 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
    This is in the time after tribulation, The shaking in Israel is speaking of the great earthquake, in Jerusalem.

    Rev 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
    Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand.
    Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
    Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

    These things must be tried together.
    Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
    Isa_28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

  53. Ron Murphy says:

    Isa_28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

  54. STL says:

    RoN. you need to open up your mind! There are 2 Magog wars.

    1. Right before the Tribulation begins.

    2. At the end of the 1000 reign on earth.

    Then we go into erternal bliss!

    Ezekiel 38 & 39 and Rev. 20: 7-9 are 2 seperate different wars.

    As Irak wars, number 1 & 2 actually its the 3rd time because of Alexander the Great attacked Irak.

    You open up your eyes, seem your blinded to the truth!

    • STL says:

      Your confusion will be clear very soon when Damascus is attack and destroyed this time ( Isaiah 17:1).

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Yes, I agree there are two Magog wars. One at the very end of God’s wrath, after tribulation. and the other after the millennium. Steve the first one is when the Lord comes back to reign. Keep this in mind, The rapture after tribulation, is what I called the time of great chaos. if the earth is shaken and the power of the heavens are going to be shaken, it will leave all electronics in a pile of heaps, and fit for nothing. Hence the horses used in battle to fight the Lord. These will be fed to the fowl of the air.

      Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
      Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

      Eze 39:17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.
      Eze 39:18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.
      Eze 39:19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.
      Eze 39:20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD.

  55. Ron Murphy says:

    Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

    Isa 17:7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.

  56. Ron Murphy says:

    Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

    Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
    Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

  57. Ron Murphy says:

    Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
    Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
    Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
    Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

  58. Ron Murphy says:

    Eze 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
    Eze 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
    Eze 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
    Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

  59. Dennis says:

    Lets all take a step back and take a few deep breaths. Reading all of the comments from the beginning of this news article up to now has been quite an adventure. People have trampled all over the scriptures for many reasons. Very informative to say the least. Many have expressed from little or no faith to an abundance of faith. Talk about how the situation of a massive power grid drill really makes one think, doesn’t it!. Makes us realize just how vulnerable mankind can become, regardless of how many weapons we might possess. Jesus tells us that “he who lives by the sword will die by the sword.
    Many have already died for simply proclaiming Christ. Which sword have they chosen? The sword of truth, of the Lord, of eternal salvation. With this sword comes eternal salvation with Jesus Christ. Yes we all have a built in yearning to do whatever would be necessary to protect our loved ones and ourselves in times like these. I know many people who have tons of weapons stashed in their homes but they can only fire one at a time. I encourage all who are eligible to own and have in their possession a firearm for personal protection during these trying times. Many commented about who the Anti-Christ might be, the tribulation and whether it is pre, mid, or post. Some have taken some pretty hard blows from some of their fellow commenters. As believers in Christ we all share in one goal. That is meeting Jesus face to face. He has repeatedly told us that he is our refuge, our comfort, our sword, and our shield. Ultimately, our eternal salvation. We will not go down in defeat. The battle might go on for some time but the victory is ours through Christ Our Lord. We are to share the good news of salvation even in times like these..

  60. STL says:

    RON: Why are you so stubborn, I give you some material to read, but as always you refuse to read it, that how DC acted, that was his downfall.

    http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/gog-magog.htm

    If you want to prove me wrong then read this article, and prove it wrong!

    • Ron Murphy says:

      I just give you Bible to read why you not read it? As usual you refuse to read it. That is your down fall. With what judgment you meet you shall be met back!

  61. STL says:

    Dennis: I tried explain to christians on this web site, owning a gun(s) will not help if FEMA Military soldiers about 50 circle your house and open up on you, those guns will not do anyone any good.
    As Jesus said, using a sword you will die by a sword.

    In the Old Testament Jews were allowed to defend their self, but in the Church Age we are not allow to defend ourselves with vengence. But in the Tribulation it will be allowed to defend yourselves!

    • Ron Murphy says:

      In the tribulation if you live by the sword you will perish by the sword.

      Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
      Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
      Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
      Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
      Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

      • suez says:

        I know, but the poor horses!!!! :-(

        • Ron Murphy says:

          Yes, but you will have you own beautiful white horse you’ll be riding and greatly spirited animal of spiritual proportion. What a Glorious Day!

          • suez says:

            @Ron, yes very excited about that, but my heart is heavy for the poor horses, used and wasted upon the evil people. Not fair to the horses! Poor things…

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I love animals, too put here for God’s and our pleasure. But they die have no soul made like God’s. On the other hand, I feel for all those souls of men that have to spend eternity in a pit with the devils. But God said He would wipe the tears. :(

          • suez says:

            @Ron, well of coarse, I do too. But that goes without saying!! :-( But people are given a choice, a animal gets punished for the sins of the people. Not fair. And Yes, I have had my little talks with the Lord about that too…LOL :-) Just a pet peeve of mine. God knows my little weird ways!!! .And he still loves me anyway!!! LOL :-)

      • suez says:

        That is the one God showed me Ron. I been meditating on that one a long time. Still am!! :-)

    • suez says:

      @STL Steve, I’d like to read that scripture, as I have struggled with that myself. Where is that in scripture please. I need to get it clear in my mind. Thanks s I’m thinking of one, but yours may be a different one! :-)

  62. suez says:

    May the Lords will be done, no matter what happens! May the Lord lead and guide these government idiots, in spite of evil there-self’s!!! :-( My they play right into the hands and the plans of God Almighty!!! :-)

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  64. STL says:

    Ron: stop acting like your fallen leader, DC! I have read the bible since 1973, and read it from cover to cover about 37 times, and I still refer to the Bible each day of my life, but there are more greater men in this world, that knows Scripture’s more than we do, or are you saying God personally appointed you as a Prophet to teach us?

    Your just like any other christian, your a sinner and you make mistakes in the reading of Scriptures!

    So stop trying to belittle me, that’s your pride your showing us!

    Humble yourself, your not right all the time!

  65. Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
    Joh 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
    Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

  66. Leo says:

    SOME U.S. intelligence Reject the Obama administrations case for a Syrian attack .

    http://youtu.be/SnZB9hyW47s

    beforeitsnews.com/middle-east/2013/09/russian-warships-go-on-offensive-in-syria-await-slightest-american-provocation-2454254.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FdGDg&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse

  67. Leo says:

    The links never work right on this site . frustration .

    Again : Russian warships await slightest American provocation of the coast of Syria .

    revolutionradio.org/?p=57538

  68. Suez: God’s Feast Days

    The Lord’s Feast were “set” or “appointed” days on which the Isrealites practiced rituals that foreshadowed future events……. namely the coming(s) of the Messiah.

    The next tetrad will fall on Passover and Tabernacles in 2014 and 2015.

    after that according to Nasa, there will be no similar pattern of solar or lunar eclipses occurring on God’s Feast Days for the next 569 days or 2582 A.D.

    Evidence from Jewish Talmud ( Book of Tradition/ Interpretation).

    Luke 21:25 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars on the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.

    My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6

    • suez says:

      @STL, yes I know about the feast days. But my question is, are the Gentile’s under the feast days??? Hmm m I don’t think so, but I have no idea how this would effect prophecy concerning the Gentiles. Just saying. I have no clue.

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