THE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND

First Pope In 600 Years To Step Down

| February 11, 2013

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“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” Revelation 13:1

He will be the first head of the Roman Catholic Church to resign in almost 600 years, with his departure expected to leave the post vacant for around three weeks.

The 85-year-old German’s resignation letter said: “After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry.

“I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

“However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.”

He will step down after almost eight years in the post, having been elected in April 2005. source – Sky

 

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  1. Wily says:

    Petrus Romanus!

  2. According to Malachy’s prediction Peter the Roman or Petrus Romanus could be the next pope. If he is named this or referred to as this. He is said to be the last pope by Malachy.

    I did a quick study on 2 Cardinal’s in line from Italy.

    One of them has an Italian name.

    Cardinal Angelo Scola, archbishop of Milan.

    Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, the archbishop of Vienna.

    Keep in mine we are not to be deceived before buying into anything. I am just bringing forward interesting information.

    For those of you unaware Pope Benedict’s name was not Benedict it was Joseph Ratzinger Cardinal.

    Again do not jump to conclusions and do not be deceived. But this is highly interesting information. Stick to what the bible prophecies are though, you can not go with God and his word.

    1 Peter 5:8
    King James Version (KJV)

    8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

  3. Sparrow says:

    I immediately thought of the Malachi Martin prophecy when hearing this news! I guess we’ll see! Hal Lindsey even mentioned it recently.

  4. PASTOR LARUE says:

    SPARROW:
    THE ROMAN CATHOLIC’S BELIEVE THAT POPE PAUL WILL BE RESURRECTED!

    WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE THE FALSE PROPHET TO THE ANTICHRIST!

    • Riddler says:

      Why make stuff up? There have been 6 Popes who took the name Paul as well as 2 who took John Paul. Catholics do not believe andy of the “Pauls” will be resurrected other than on Judgment Day when all will be resurrected. Try to allow at least some semblance of fact to seep into your posts.

    • Pasor Larue is it not to be John Paul II the one to be resurrected…

  5. Crossbow says:

    With the pope stepping down so sudden. Also with the world shaking from both natural events to man made world events. It should cause ALL both great and small. Free and slave. To take notice. To look at ourselves and to be honest with ourselves and ask “Is our lives right with GOD”? Are You ready to stand before “I Am” ? If not there’s no time to waste. Repent and ask the LORD the son of the living GOD to be your LORD and Savior.

  6. usc4life2 says:

    As far as the pope goes read Daniel 11:20-25 explains it all

  7. havilah says:

    Benediction you can live where ever you wanted or prefer to live your wedding will be taking place at bethelehem on march 1st or feb 15th I will be there to greet you for sure if God makes a way for me to attend and you need to announce who is the next pope other wise I will be the next fake pope for a season of time
    people’s catholic church opinion counts

  8. havilah says:

    speak out to day to media
    who is next senior bishop ?
    any pastor wants to work with me or not catholic voting
    A great division among catholic church 2 churches 1 is controled by me the other one by paul ryan he will appoint somebody the senior most bishop

  9. havilah says:

    Praise the lord
    halleluya
    maranatha

  10. With everything else we know I would believe they gave him an ultimation. Step down or you will step out. I believe they are more than anxious and want to get their show on the road.

    I hope all the believers out there will take the Nehemiah Challenge. Get on your knees and stay on your knees ans bring on the last great revival that man has known and it is coming.

  11. PASTOR LARUE says:

    THE NICENE CREED BELIEVES OF THE FAITH OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ALL RELIGIONS WILL FORMED INTO ONE UNIVERSAL CHURCH.

    SOME CATHOLIC IN THE PAST BELIEVED THAT POPE JOHN PAUL THE 2ND WOULD BE RESURRECTED!

    BUT THE LADY OF FATIMA OF THE 3RD SECRET PREDICTS A GREAT APOSTASY IN THE CHURCH AND THE CHURCH WOULD YIELD TO A GREAT HERESY FROM OUR LADY OF GOOD SUCCESS OF A UNIVERSAL CHURCH FROM THE MALACHI MARTIN PROPHECY DISSCUSSED IN AN ARTICLE WRITTEN IN 2007 FROM THE VACTIN CITY, ROME. ALSO SPOKE IN THIS ARTICLE THAT 2013 WAS THE ACTUAL YEAR OF THE TRIUMPH OF THE IMMACULATE HEART.

    IN THE 3RD SECRET STATED RUSSIA WILL START A WAR!

    COULD THIS BEING REFERRED TO THE MAGOG WAR.

    POPE BENEDICT STEPS DOWN ON 2/28/2013 AND IN THE 3RD SECRET THE NEXT POPE WILL BE NAMED” PETER THE ROMAN” WHICH HE WILL BRING ABOUT THE FINAL PERSECUTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. POPE BENEDICT WILL BE HUNTED DOWN AND KILLED.

    HERE COMES THE FALSE PROPHET AND THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH ” ONE WORLD CHURCH”

    THIS REALLY PROVES THE LAST DAYS ARE FINALLY BEGINNING?

  12. holypaul says:

    With the advent of the blood moon Tetrad and solar eclipes next year, this event and other signs. It’s all coming down to the wire now. Get right before God, be SURE you are filled with the Holy Spirit and serve Him with all your heart. It’s either that, or go through the tribulation. Your choice is before you. God be with us all in these last days.

  13. PASTOR LARUE says:

    HOLY PAUL:

    YOUR RIGHT ON IN YOUR COMMENTS. AS DEBRA, NEW YORK BELIEVES WE STILL NEED TO SUFFER CARNAL TRIBULATIONS IN THE GREAT TRIBULATION.

    I TEND TO BELIEVE IN MY FAITH THAT JESUS ALREADY SHED HIS BLOOD AND DIEING ON THE CROSS FOR ME TO TAKE AWAY MY SINS AS I ACCEPTED HIS GIFT OF SALVATION MANY YEARS AGO ON THE BATTLE FIELD IN THE VIETNAM WAR THAT I WILL NOT AGAIN HAVE TO SUFFER IN THE GREAT TRIBULATION. MY LIFE IS FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AS MY ONLY DESIRE IN THIS LIFE, IS TO BE WITH MY LORD JESUS CHRIST FOREVER!

    THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY NEED TO SUFFER MORE IN THEIR LIVES TO PROVE THEIR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST GOING INTO THE GREAT TRIBULATION. I BELIVE JESUS SOLVED THAT FOR ME DIEING ON THE CROSS AND SHEDDING HIS BLOOD FOR ME, THAT I COULD RECIEVE SALVATION BY GOING TO MY KNEES, ASKING HIM FOR FORGIVENESS OF ALL MY SINS AND THAT I WANTED TO PICK UP MY CROSS AND FOLLOW HIM!

    • Debra says:

      What about the blood of the early christians and the ones who are dying all over the world today for their faith? Jesus told us we would be persecuted and some be put to death for their faith! Even in Rev. it says Christians are beheaded for their faith and witness. Christians have been persecuted all through history and that is not the wrath of God or replacement blood theology. You pervert the words of us who speak the truth because you are afraid deep in your heart that it is the truth. Just because pre-trib has been taught in the church and believed by popular authors does not make it the truth.
      The Catholic church taught for years that people should pray to Mary, and tons of people still pray to her! That does not make it the truth just because it has been a tradition in the church for many years! But if you try to tell Catholics it is not right to pray to Mary because the bible tells us to Pray to the father in Jesus name only, they will not like it and will not listen most of the time! Same with the pre-tribbers! Some will listen and some won’t like hearing they will be persecuted like thousands of christians before them!

      • Jennifer Cochrane says:

        Debra, I agree with you and have thought the same things for about 12 years now. I grew up learning the pre-trib theory, but I just don’t see how it’s possible we won’t go through at least half of the tribulation. Everyone should read Matthew 24, when Jesus is on Mount Olive and speaking to His disciples. He tells them “YOU will be persectuted and jailed for my namesake when they asked him about the time of the end and signs of his second coming. He tells them there will be signs but the end will not come yet. The man of lawlessness will appear and decieve many including the elite, and his mark will required to buy or sell in those days. If Jesus is telling this to His disciples, it leads me to believe He is speaking of today’s Christians. He didn’t tell them “sinners will be persecuted”, He said we would.

        • Debra Japp says:

          I used to take such great comfort in pre-trib, but wisdom and discernment have come through, and unfortunately, I believe also that we will go through at least the first 3 1/2 years because I believe this is why Jesus left us the comforter Holy Spirit. We are granted power through his blood to heal and prophesy and perform miracles and we can only do this in the power of the Holy Spirit and by keeping our hearts pure and using our authority in prayer–we will have to help each other through this time until Christ comes because we cannot take the mark, but what a glorious day when we get to go home. Be strong, Christian Solders. Put on the full armor of God every day &pray.

  14. usc4life2 says:

    I agree Pastor Larue and Holy Paul…… Jesus died for our sins and He will be coming soon. Thank you Jesus. These are exciting times!! God Bless

  15. steven larue says:

    in 1 cor. 15:51 it talks about the mystery. what if, the magog war begins, which is the 1 st part of the tribulation, and in the confusion of all these events, the rapture occurs? would not it be a mystery of us disappearing into thin air?

    • steven larue says:

      does not it say that the holy spirit will leave this earth in the tribulation and leave the 144,000 jews to witness in this period of time and the holy spirit dwells in us, so the saints will be gone to heaven?

      • steven larue says:

        if the holy spirit remain on earth in the tribulation, the holy spirit would not allow the antichrist to come to power to start the one world government and one world church. as i said, the holy spirit dwells in us, so we would be protesting against the antichrist, but i believe the antichrist has enough problems than dealing with born again christians?

  16. brian says:

    wow! the pope quits to make way for the next, and last pope. things are further along than i thought. we knew it had to be soon. we are the generation that has witnessed the rebirth of israel.be strong, yeshua will not forsake you!

  17. cliche says:

    Well said Steve larue

  18. Well….we must all understand that the Antichrist will be a secular person. The means, that he will paralyze religion. No Christianity, Islam, Catholicism, etc,. ideologies will be crippled and down away with. The Antichrist will say there is no God, then he will say we are gods. Finally, he will proclaim that he is god. The false prophet will only assist the Antichrist with miracles, not religious practices. Just my thought.

  19. ITS SO SIMPLE AND PEOPLE MAKE IT SO HARD OR CONFUSED THERE SEVERAL REASON WE WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE TRIBULATION!
    1. ALL CHILDREN- BOYS 13 AND UNDER, GILRS 12 AND UNDER WILL NOT BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE SINS, STATED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. WOULD GOD MAKE THESE CHILDREN SUFFER?
    2. ALL THE CHILDREN WITH LEARNING DISABILITIES, WOULD GOD MAKE THESE INNOCENT ONES SEE THE HORRORS OF THE TRIBULATION?
    3. HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAVE PLANET EARTH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION, BUT HE WILL LEAVE 144,000 JEWS TO WITNESS TO THE JEWS AND GENTILES IN THIS 7 YEAR PERIOD.
    4. THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLS IN THE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS IN OUR HEARTS, COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT HERE, WE ALSO WILL BE GONE!
    5. IN 1 COR. 15:51 GOD SPEAKS OF THE “MYSTERY” WITH ALL THE CONFUSION OF ONE WORLD CHURCH, ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, MAGOG WAR, WOULD NOT IT BE A MYSTERY, IF BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, JUST VANISHED INTO THIN AIR.
    6. WITH ALL THESE CHILDREN VANISHING INTO THIN AIR, WOULD NOT PARENTS GOING NUTS TRYING TO FIND THESE CHILDREN?
    7. PAUL SAID, A CERTAIN ” HE” (HOLY SPIRIT) HAS TO TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY 2 THESS. 2:7
    8. IN REVELATION CHAPTERS 1 TO 3, THEN CHURCH IS NOT MENTION IN REVELATION.
    9. THE TRIBULATION IS MENTION AS JACOB TROUBLES AND GOD’S WRATH TO COME UPON US!
    10. 1 THESS. 5:9 PAUL ASSURES US THAT GOD HAS NOT APPOINTED HIS SAINTS TO THE WRATH. GOD PROMISED PROTECTION TO HIS SAINTS AND GOD WOULD NOT LIE? ITS THE BODILY REMOVAL OF THE CHURCH FROM THIS WORLD.
    11. 2 PETER 3:3-4 THERE SHALL COME IN THE LAST DAYS SCOFFERS, WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN BELIEFS AND SAYING, WHERE IS THE PROMISE OF HIS COMING? FOR SINCE THE FATHERS FELL ASLEEP ALL THINGS CONTINUE AS THEY WERE FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION.
    12. ROMANS 5:9- HAVING NOW BEEN JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD, WE SHALL BE SAVED FROM THE WRATH OF GOD THROUGH HIM. ( WHY WOULD WE NEED TO GO THROGH THE TRIBULATION TO SUFFER, WHEN JESUS ALREADY SUFFERED ON THE CROSS AND SHED HIS BLOOD FOR OUR SALVATION. OR DID HE CAME HERE FOR NO GOOD REASON?)
    13. 1 THESS. 5:9-10 FOR GOD DID NOT DESTINED US FOR THE WRATH BUT TO OBTAINING SALVATION THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. WHO DIED FOR US, THAT WHETHER WE ARE AWAKE OR ASLEEP, WE MAY LIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM.
    14. REV. 3:10- BECAUSE YOU HAVE KEPT THE WORD OF PERSEVERANCE, I ALSO WILL KEEP YOU FROM THE HOUR OF TESTING, THAT HOUR WHICH IS ABOUT TO COME UPON THE WHOLE WORLD, TO TEST THOSE WHO DWELL UPON THE EARTH.

    • Debra says:

      Daniel 11:45 And HE(anti-christ) shall plant the TABERNACLES OF HIS PALACE between the SEAS IN THE GLORIOUS HOLY MOUNTAIN; yet HE (anti-christ) shall come to HIS END, and NONE shall HELP HIM!

      Rev. 12:1 And at THAT TIME(same time as above verses) shall MICHAEL(Israel’s arch angel who watches over them)STAND UP(stop holding back the reveiling of the anti-christ and the tribulation) the GREAT PRINCE (angel) which STANDETH(protects) for the CHILDREN OF THY PEOPLE(Israel): and there shall be a TIME OF TROUBLE, such as NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION EVEN TO THAT TIME: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED,(the 144,000 jews) EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND IN THE BOOK!(book of life)
      (2) And many of them that SLEEP(dead) in the dust of the EARTH shall AWAKE, some to EVERLASTING LIFE, and some to SHAME, and EVERLASTING CONTEMPT.
      (3) And they that be WISEshall SHINE AS THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE FIRMAMENT; and they that TURN MANY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS AS THE STARS FOREVER AND EVER!

      As we see here in Daniel which is talking about the time of the end with the anti-christ, that the HE found in the scripture in the new testament that is taken out of the way is MICHAEL THE PROTECTING ANGEL. It’s not the HOLY SPIRIT as many teach because the holy spirit is everywhere and cannot be taken out because people are still being saved during the tribulation according to the scriptures.
      There’s no way to use this scripture in the new testament to prove the pre-trib doctrine.
      The reason why Paul said that they would know who the He was is because it was known by the jews that Michael was their guardian angel from tribulation.
      Gentiles need to learn more about jewish beliefs before they start trying to interpet prophecy! Michael is keeping the anti-christ from appearing before the time appointed by God for his appearance!
      There’s no guessing about who the He is now!!! The early church knew who the He was all along. Pray about it and let God show you the truth!! Shalom!!

  20. DEBRA: I’M JEWISH BY BIRTH RIGHT, BY GOD I’M A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN. I WAS BROUGHT UP READING THE OLD TESTAMENT IN HEBREW AND I STUDIED IT IN GREEK.
    I’M REALLY SORRY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART THAT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS TAKING AWAY OUR SINS FROM THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE AS LONG WE GO TO HIM ASKING FORGIVENESS. HE DIED ON THE CROSS, SHED HIS BLOOD FOR JUST US SO WE COULD HAVE SALVATION AND BE ONE OF HIS SAINTS. AND HE STATED IN ROMANS 5:9 HAVING NOW BEEN JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD WE SHALL BE SAVED FROM THE WRATH OF GOD THROUGH HIM.
    WE ALREADY PROVEN TO GOD WE ARE JUSTIFIED WHEN WE WENT TO HIM AND ASKED FOR HIS SALVATION. AND IN REV. 3:10 BECAUSE YOU HAVE KEPT THE WORD OF MY PERSEVERANCE, I ALSO WILL KEEP YOU FROM THE HOUR OF TESTING ( AS YOU AND NEW YORK STATED TO ME WE NEED TO BE TESTED IN THE TRIBULATION), THAT HOUR WHICH IS ABOUT TO COME UPON THE WHOLE WORLD TO TEST THOSE WHO DWELL UPON THE EARTH.
    SO THE ONLY REASON YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THEN YOUR NOT FROM GOD. MARK 16: 16- HE WHO HAS BELIEVED AND BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED, BUT HE WHO HAS DISBELIEVED SHALL BE CONDEMNED. THE WORDS OF GOD WAS MAINLY FOR THE ONE NOT THE MASS OF PEOPLE, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WANTS US TO BELIEVE. IN MARK 13: 13- AND YOU WILL BE HATED BY ALL ON ACCOUNT OF MY NAME, BUT IT IS THE (ONE) WHO HAS ENDURED TO THE END WHO WILL BE SAVED. THIS COULD MEAN AT MY DEATH OR THE END OF THE CHURCH AGE. JOHN 8: 47 HE WHO IS OF GOD HEARS THE WORDS OF GOD, FOR THIS REASON YOU DO NOT HEAR THEM, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF GOD.
    YOU NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION WHAT GOD’S WORDS ARE TRYING TO TELL YOU THAN CLOSING UP YOUR MIND OF GOD’S WORDS!
    SEE: 1 THESS. 5: 9-10: FOR GOD HAS NOT DESTINED US FOR THE WRATH, BUT FOR OBTAINING SALVATION THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. WHO DIED FOR US, THAT WHETHER WE ARE AWAKE OR ASLEEP, WE MAY LIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM ( THAT’S SO SIMPLE!)
    WE WILL NOT GO INTO THE TRIBULATION OR GOD ( JESUS) DIED IN VAIN!
    SO IF YOU STILL FEEL YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE 7 YEAR TRIBULATION, THEN YOU WILL BE LEFT BEHIND AND THAT WOULD BE ASHAME! BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT COMPLETELY GAVE YOUR LIFE TOTALLY TO JESUS CHRIST!

  21. AT FIRST AFTER POPE JOHN PAUL DIED, MOST CATHOLIC’S WERE BELIEVING THAT POPE JOHN PAUL WOULD BE RESURRECTED, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE, THE LAST POPE BY THE MALACHI MARTIN PROPHECY HE’S THEIR LAST POPE HE’LL BE CALLED PETER THE ROMAN! WHICH WILL BE THE FALSE PROPHET THAT BRING INTO THE INTERDUCTION OF THE ANTICHRIST

  22. BRIAN: I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THIS WILL BE DONE, JUST MAYBE POPE BENEDICT WILL RELIZED THAT PETER THE ROMAN IS THE FALSE PROPHET AND TRYS TO BRING IT TO LIGHT IN FROM OF THE PAPCY?

  23. In The Book of Revelation 17: 7-11 the angel explains;

    17:7 But 19 the angel said to me, “Why are you astounded? I will interpret 20 for you the mystery of the woman and of the beast with the seven heads and ten horns that carries her.
    17:8 The beast you saw was, and is not, but is about to come up from the abyss 21 and then go to destruction. The 22 inhabitants of the earth – all those whose names have not been written in the book of life since the foundation of the world – will be astounded when they see that 23 the beast was, and is not, but is to come.
    17:9 (This requires 24 a mind that has wisdom.) The seven heads are seven mountains 25 the woman sits on. They are also seven kings:
    17:10 five have fallen; one is, 26 and the other has not yet come, but whenever he does come, he must remain for only a brief time.
    17:11 The 27 beast that was, and is not, is himself an eighth king and yet is one of the seven, and is going to destruction.

    19 tn Here καί (kai) has been translated as “but” to indicate the contrast present in this context.

    20 tn Grk “I will tell you,” but since what follows is the angel’s interpretation of the vision, “interpret for you” is the preferred translation here.

    21 tn On this term BDAG 2 s.v. ἄβυσσος 2 states, “netherworld, abyss, esp. the abode of the dead Ro 10:7 (Ps 106:26) and of demons Lk 8:31; dungeon where the devil is kept Rv 20:3; abode of the θηρίον, the Antichrist 11:7; 17:8; of ᾿Αβαδδών (q.v.), the angel of the underworld 9:11…φρέαρ τῆς ἀ. 9:1f; capable of being sealed 9:1; 20:1, 3.”

    22 tn Here καί (kai) has not been translated because of differences between Greek and English style.

    23 tn Some translations take the ὅτι (Joti) here as causal: “because he was, and is not, but is to come” (so NIV, NRSV), but it is much more likely that the subject of the ὅτι clause has been assimilated into the main clause: “when they see the beast, that he was…” = “when they see that the beast was” (so BDAG 732 s.v. ὅτι 1.f, where Rev 17:8 is listed).

    24 tn Grk “Here is the mind that has wisdom.”

    25 tn It is important to note that the height of “mountains” versus “hills” or other topographical terms is somewhat relative. In terms of Palestinian topography, Mount Tabor (traditionally regarded as the mount of transfiguration) is some 1,800 ft (550 m) above sea level, while the Mount of Olives is only some 100 ft (30 m) higher than Jerusalem.

    26 tn That is, one currently reigns.

  24. MAREKZIELINSKI:
    WHAT’S THE POINT FOR BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS HAVE TO DO WITH REVELATION, AS AFTER CHAPTERS 1-3 TALKS ABOUT THE CHURCH AGE. WHEN THESE PROPHECIES START HAPPENING IN CHAPTER 17. WE AS BORN AGAIN SAINTS WILL ALREADY BE IN HEAVEN. BUT FOR THOSE LEFT BEHIND IT WILL BE A CONCERN TO THEM!

    • Tracy says:

      All of us at one time or another, Christian or non-christian have had tribulations in our lifetime. Therefore, if we have accepted our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into our hearts and souls, why would God want us to suffer thru the Great Tribulation. To prove what? However, if we are still here, we as Christians do know that it will be very trying, difficult times. With that said, I believe we need to focus more on trying to live our lives as honorable as we can so that we will help to win lost souls for Jesus. After it’s all over, the rapture will be history; but, Heaven or hell will be for eternity. Isn’t that the most important issue? Let’s focus on EACH day not the Great Tribulation. I want peace and joy in my life to keep shinning through.
      Praise God.

  25. TRACY: PRAISED JESUS CHRIST!

  26. Debra says:

    Debra Japp, so glad you read your bible and think for yourself by the leading of the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth! You will be one of those fully prepared for what is coming in the near future! I appreciate your encouragement and support! Blessings my sister in Christ Jesus!

  27. Debra says:

    Debra Japp, Beware of persecution on these blogging sites because there are people who don’t like you disagreeing with them and they will say you aren’t saved etc… and make all kinds of judgments against you for not believing in the pre-trib doctrine. Be strong and ignore it the best you can by the power, and comfort of the Holy Spirit. This is suppose to be a free speech site too! Shalom Sister in Christ Jesus!

  28. Tracy says:

    It seems you have some bitterness within you because not everyone on this site agrees with you.
    I honestly don’t remember anyone persecuting anyone on this site. People just don’t want someone else rammig their belief down their throat.
    Not a person living knows exactly what is going to happen in the future, only God knows. As a Christian, we are sealed and belong to Him regardless of what the future holds. He will take care of His own. Therefore, we all need to learn to carry on and try our best to win lost souls for Jesus Christ. That’s the Most important issue – Where a person spends eternity!
    God Bless All

  29. TRACY.
    ALL I EVER WANTED TO BELIEVE IN MY BELIEF AND IN NO WAY I WAS TRYING TO PUSH MY BELIEF DOWN THEIR THROAT! BUT IT SEEM THEY TOOK IT ANOTHER WAY! WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS, BUT TO INSULT ONE ANOTHER IS NOT A CHRISTIAN WAY!

    • Tracy says:

      Pastor Larue, I wasn’t addressing that to you. My post was meant for Debra. She discusses the post-trib rapture in every post. I think we are all entitled to our own belief. Not one of us is 100% correct on everything that is written in the Bible, and that defitinely includes the rapture of the church.
      Sorry you misunderstood.
      God Bless

  30. TRACY:
    DEBRA IS ON A MISSION OF GOD!

    AT LEAST SHE THINK SO, AND IF NO ONE EXACTLY AGREES WITH HER BELIEFS IN POST-TRIBULATION. YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE THIS WEB SITE. EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINIONS OF THE SCRIPTURES, WHEN READING ANY CHAPTER OR VERSE, WE FEEL GOD’S TALKING TO US, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET THE WRONG MESSAGE FROM WHAT WE READ IN SCRIPTURE, CAUSE WE ARE NOT HEARING IT CLEARLY CAUSE WE THINK DIFFERENT OF WHAT WE HAVE READ!
    IN NO WAY, I’M CONDEMNING DEBRA OR ANYONE OF THEIR BELIEFS, I ONLY STATE MY OPINION, BUT I DO NOT NEED TO BE INSULTED FOR IT!
    WE NEED TO LIVE OUR LIVES AS JESUS WANT US TO LIVE THEM BEING KIND AND FRIENDLY TO EACH OTHER!

  31. Debra says:

    It looks like this web site is some what one sided in what can be commented on. It’s ok to post pre-trib beliefs one after another with no one saying, all steve does is post pre-trib stuff! That sounds kind of hypocritical to judge others who post their opposite view along with the pre-trib doctrine that is posted everytime it comes up.. It looks like some people are trying to shut the opposite truth out by putting those people down. If you don’t want post trib talked about then stop posting all the time pre-trib stuff! Fair is fair! Judge not lest you be judged is a good saying from the bible for us all! This is suppose to be a freedom of speech site and all I see are people who are trying to silence those who have a difference of oppinion than them. That’s not christian either. Where’s Christian love in that attitude?

    • Tracy says:

      Debra, the most important issue is salvation, not rapture.
      I have said several times on this site that regardless of when the rapture takes place God is with us. Therefore, don’t worry. It could pre-mid-or post, but I’m going to Heaven one way or the other.
      On another note, didn’t I see in one of your post where you told someone not to listen to the “pastor” (Larue)that he twist the scriptures. Isn’t that called judging? You seem a bit hypocritical.
      God Bless

  32. DEBRA: I DO NOT POST ONLY PRE-TRIB STUFF ONLY, I POST SCRIPTURE ON JESUS STATEMENT HOW HIS BLOOD HAS JUSTIFIED OUR SALVATION BUT IN SCRIPTURES IT RELATES AS IN ROMANS 5:9 BEING CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN.

    PLEASE DEBRA EXPLAIN TO ME FROM SCRIPTURE AND YOUR OPINION’S IN 1 THESS. 14-17 TALKS ABOUT BEING CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN WHEN WE ARE DEAD OR ALIVE WHEN JESUS COMES FOR US!

    BUT IN THE TRIBULATION ITS STATED ONLY THE DEAD WILL BE RESURRECTION INTO HEAVEN OF REV.20:4-5 BEING BEHEADED!

    THE IS NO MENTION OF ANY LIVING SAINTS IN THE TRIBULATION GOING TO HEAVEN1

    SO WHY IS THAT?

  33. Debra says:

    1Thess. 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the LORD, that we which are alive and REMAIN(survive) unto the COMING OF THE LORD SHALL NOT PREVENT(go before) them which are asleep(dead).
    (16) For the LORD HIMSELF shall DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT, SHOUT, SHOUT, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the TRUMPET OF GOD; and the Dead in Christ shall ARISE FIRST.
    (17) Then we which are alive and REMAIN(survive)shall be caught up to meet the LORD in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    2 Thess. 2: 3 Let No Man deceive you by any means; for THAT DAY( the day of the coming and catching away in the 1 thess. 4) shall not come, shall not come, shall not come except there come a FALLING AWAY FIRST, and THAT MAN OF SIN (anti-christ) be revealed, be revealed, revealed, THE SON OF PERDITION.
    (4) Who opposeth and exalteth HIMSELF, above all that is Called GOD, or that is WORSHIPPED; so that HE as GOD siteth in the temple of God showing HIMSELF that HE is GOD,
    (5) Remember you not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    1 Corith. 15:52 In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST, LAST, LAST, TRUMPET; for the TRUMPET SHALL SOUND, and the DEAD SHALL be RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE, and WE SHALL BE CHANGED. Steve,
    I hope this answers your question you wanted me to answer about 1 thess. 4. the scriptures speak for themselves, and are very clear that the coming of the Lord and our gathering together unto him happens at the last trumpet! Rev. 1:7, Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, AND THEY ALSO WHO HAVE PIERCED HIM; AND ALL KINDREDS OF THE EARTH SHALL WAIL BECAUSE OF HIM. even so AMEN.
    Luke 21: 27 And then shall they see the SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY!
    Acts 1:9 And when HE had spoken these things, while they BEHELD, HE was taken UP; and a CLOUD received HIM out of their sight.
    (10) And while they looked stedfastly toward HEAVEN as HE went UP, BEHOLD, two men stood by them in WHITE APPARREL;
    (11) Which also said, you men of Galillee, WHY stand you gazing UP into HEAVEN? This same JESUS, which is taken UP into HEAVEN, shall also COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YOU HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN.
    Steve, I have made posts explaining the scriptures that support my views about the trib so if you want more info. just go back and find what I have posted because I’m tired of wasting my breath on people who are just wanting to argue about it rather than just discussing the issues rationally.

  34. DEBRA:
    I HAVE NO PROBLEM OF YOUR BELIEFS, BUT SO FAR, ITS A TWO WAY STREET.
    BUT WHEN YOU POST THAT WE (CHRISTIANS) DO NOT SUFFER FOR OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST, THAT IS TRUELY WRONG ON YOUR PART, AS PAUL IN 2 COR. 11: 23-28.

    BUT YOU TRYING TO BE A COPY CAT FROM NEW YORK, POUNDED THE SCRIPTURES JUST TO PROVE A POINT THAT SUITS YOU.

    I’LL NEVER GET TRIED OF DISCUSSING SCRIPTURE WITH ANYONE, BUT BEING A TRUE CHRISTIAN WE SHOULD NEVER GET TIRED IN DISCUSSION. I HAVE ALWAYS DISCUSSED YOUR VIEWS RATIONALLY WITH YOU AND OTHERS.

    ITS YOUR FREEDOM OF RIGHT NOT TO DISCUSS MY OPINIONS AND SIMPLY OVER LOOK THEM, NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO RESPOND TO MY OPINIONS!

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