THE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND

Newsweek Now Says That Obama Is ‘The Second Coming’

| January 19, 2013

False christs and the end times

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” Matthew 24:24

Although it is now digital, Newsweek celebrated President Obama’s upcoming inauguration with a “cover” that calls the event “the second coming,” an apparent reference to the return of Jesus Christ, The Blaze reported Friday.

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By definition, a “messiah” that’s not Jesus Christ would have to be the Antichrist. Just sayin’…

A post at Twitchy called the cover “creepy,” while The Blaze described it as “controversial” and “questionable.”

The cover highlights an article by former editor Evan Thomas, who once compared Obama to God

“Well, we were the good guys in 1984, it felt that way. It hasn’t felt that way in recent years. So Obama’s had, really, a different task We’re seen too often as the bad guys. And he – he has a very different job from – Reagan was all about America, and you talked about it. Obama is ‘we are above that now.’ We’re not just parochial, we’re not just chauvinistic, we’re not just provincial. We stand for something – I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God,” he told Chris Matthews in 2009.

This is not the first time Newsweek has used such a theme when portraying Obama.

A cover in 2010 called him “god of all things” and another cover used religious imagery when praising the president for his latest stand supporting gay marriage.

After Obama won re-election, Newsweek portrayed him as a conqueror dressed in an 18th century uniform. Twitchy noted that a number of conservatives on Twitter were repulsed by the cover.

“I don’t tend to get indignantly offended that easily, but this Newsweek cover is makes me ill,”tweeted Ben Howe.

“The Second Coming? Really? You’ve got to be kidding me,” another person wrote.

Another Twitter user said the publication went “full Jim Jones,” a reference to the cult leader who led his followers to their death by drinking poison. Twitchy reminded readers that Newsweek was not as nice to George W. Bush when he was inaugurated in 2005. source – Examiner

 

About the Author:

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he hosts a twice-weekly bible study and prophecy radio show on BlogTalk Radio, and oversees a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
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  1. bsfurg says:

    can I be sick now or should I wait and s ee how ppl say about it…hes a fake..

  2. John says:

    Excuse me, I have to print this and vomit so as to not mess the floor.

  3. azgirl says:

    Can we actually be surprised by anything this media says about him?! He’s a liar, as are most of his cabinet. This boob surrounds himself with “yes” people then expects the American public to trust what they say and do it with a “bow”. I will not be watching the “installment” of this liar, fake, corrupter and hope at the end of this term he doesn’t just install himself as the dictator he actually is.

  4. Lynda Reneau says:

    I find him disgusting and yes some are seeing him as God but I have said from the start he will either be the Anti Christ or paving the way for him..Do not be deceived!!!!!!

    • Grace2013 says:

      I agree Lynda!!!!

    • ARIZONA says:

      LYNDA,you need to get closer to the lord,THE LORD WARNED in 2008,the anti-christ was going to take over america,and so he has, OBAMAS job for the devil is to destroy all christians, and kill as many children as he can and eleminate them from the face of the earth,THIS IS THE BAD GUY OF BIBLE PROPHECY,he kills children,he hates christians,he doesn’t love anything,he has a short time on earth(2300 days) then hes killed and LUCIFER HIMSELF takes over his body,then all hell breaks loose..

  5. Rockred says:

    This is making me ill. Have we ( They ) really sunk this low? He is with no doubt in my mind or soul NOT the second coming and as a Christian we need to call that at every mountain top. It’s our duty. He isn’t even a leader. He is at best a puppet who is controlled by others people pushing the global / caliphate buttons. They follow the Alinsky playbook and their greed has no limits. It’s time for the sheep to turn off their t.v.’s and put down their smart phones and pay attention. UNPLUG and set yourself free.

  6. Juni says:

    Reasons why Obama could be the Antichrist or definitely be a forerunner as he appears to fit the criteria.

    1. He perposes to be a man of peace
    2. He exalts himself above God and opposes himself against Him

    3. His father is the father of lies and deception
    5. He blasphemes the Almighty
    6. Its says in an old translation of the bible that “one will arise of a dark and evil countenance,” this is not racist but maybe is actually literal.
    7. He has openly declared himself a muslim, ie he has an antichrist spirit and does not believe in the Son of God, or the Trinity.
    8. He worships satan, ie there is no god but allah ie the devil.
    9. It says in scripture he will not worship the god of his fathers, the founding fathers of America were christians

    10. He is a murderer as Jesus said like his father before him (anyone who condones abortion and legalises it is a participant in murder)

    These a just a few reasons for believing that this man could be a/the son of perdition. Its not judgemental because the facts can be confirmed with biblical quotes and prophecy.

    • Spot on, Juni! Now if he ends up over in Rome…………

    • Leonard says:

      THE COMING WORLD LEADER?

      America may not be SPECIFICALLY mentioned in end-time prophecy, at least by any overt declaration, but I believe the U.S. may be THE major player in the Tribulation! It grieves me to say this, but I think a good, circumstantial case can be made that America, the only super-power left and the heir apparent of the Old Roman Empire’s legacy (Dan 2:41-44), could become the support base of the Antichrist. This obviously would tend to place a narrow focus on the present LEADERSHIP of our beloved country.

      *Let me pause here and ask you to not doubt my patriotism. Just because I will be pointing out facts that are hard to accept concerning America, and its possible role in the end times, that does not mean I do not love my country! I am only one generation of a long line of military veterans in my family who have proudly served this nation. I have ancestors and relatives who fought or served during the French and Indian War, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, and Desert Storm. In fact, I volunteered for the U.S. Marine Corps right out of High School in 1969 to fight in Vietnam (which by that time was THE most unpopular war in American History!), but the Marines needed me elsewhere. Although I never served in a combat zone, I was willing to risk my life to protect this country and still would. So, again I say, I love this country and you can be sure of my patriotism. But just because I love this land, that does not mean I agree with everything our government has done in the past, does in the present, or will do in the future. ‘Once a Marine―ALWAYS a Marine’ also means that the Constitution I swore to support and defend against all enemies, foreign AND domestic, includes the right to express my own views…at least for NOW anyway!*

      Since God was infinitely shrewd in His prophesies so as not to give away the EXACT identity of the Antichrist or his home turf (Satan studies Scripture too!), we must look for clues in some unlikely places (Watch HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtxkAzokbs&videos=WkFyuTK0fxo” ). Actually, the Bible is fairly explicit about where the center of World POWER will be located during Daniel’s 70th Week (Daniel 9:27)…BABYLON! “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her…the woman whom you saw is that great CITY which REIGNS over the kings of the earth…BABYLON THE GREAT” (Rev 17). For brevity’s sake, I have only used the aforementioned scripture reference for justification that Babylon rises again to play an important end-time role, but there are many others (five more in Revelation alone) that I will leave for you to discover and examine.

      So now we know (or should know) that Babylon is the SEAT of World power during the 7-Year Tribulation. But, someone might insightfully say: the last major leader (Saddam Hussein) of the country encompassing Babylon (Iraq) was a tin-pot dictator who thought he was the Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar, reborn and was eventually hanged as a consequence of thumbing his nose at the most powerful nation the world has ever known! They would be absolutely right, and as a result of our invasion and conquering of Iraq, America is now the CARETAKER of her fractious population—conveniently living atop a SEA of OIL I might add—whose people can’t even control themselves let alone the world!

      There is a way to resolve the apparent dichotomy of an effectively leaderless Iraq and the Scriptures identification of a rebuilt Babylon being the center of world power. I see the individual mentioned in Daniel 7:7 (the “little horn”); Daniel 7:19 (the “other horn”); Daniel 8:23-25 (the “king”); Dan 11:36-45 (“the king”); and “the Beast” of Rev 13 & 19:19 as quite possibly the LEADER of our country! Our misguided nation, which WAS the last major friend of Israel, now has a “President” (the “he” of Dan 9:27?) who is deeply sympathetic to ISLAM and is hostile to God’s Word, His Chosen People, and their Promised Land! Because the Antichrist will persecute Israel during the last 3½-years of the Tribulation (Dan 7:25, Rev 12:6), anyone at the helm of the United States, with the previously mentioned animus towards JEWS, MUST be scrutinized VERY closely. But, some might insightfully point out that the Bible seems to call the Antichrist: “The Assyrian” (Isa 10:24); “The Prince of Tyre” (Eze 28:1-10); “The King of Babylon” (Isa 14:3-4); and some even believe, “The Pharaoh of Egypt!” How could the leader of America, which is half a world away from the Middle-East, be even remotely considered ONE of those appellations let alone ALL of them? I would simply respond to that question this way: directly or indirectly…CONQUEST! I can almost hear the adoring, liberated masses in the various Middle-East countries greeting their conquering Hero from America, who has freed them from the tyranny of their corrupt leaderships, with this exultant paean: HAIL to “THE-ONE!”…KING of Babylon!…PHAROAH of Egypt!…PRINCE of Tyre!…“WHO IS ABLE TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM,” (Rev 13:4) the ASSYRIAN!!!

      So, how does a constitutionally elected Head-of-State get to be a Dictator? Not too many people are aware of this but in times of national emergency; Presidential Directive PDD-51 (Read HERE: “http://www.infowars.com/pdd-51-new-executive-order-give-obama-dictator-power/” ) effectively gives the Commander-in-Chief of the United States dictatorial control. With that kind of absolute power after a major disaster (think mass disappearance of millions of people followed by world pandemonium— Watch HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Oo4HmvK2U&playnext=1&videos=R_auEQv-iEI” ), the “Mark of the Beast” (Rev 13:18), the end of freedom and the beginning of the Tribulation for those—“LEFT-BEHIND,” could become a shocking reality! If you were sharp-eyed when you read the article about PDD-51, you should remember that in the event of a declared National Emergency not only would the President become a DICTATOR, the present order of 50 U.S. Governors would be reduced down to TEN regional authorities! Read the following quotation from the Prophet Daniel (7:1-8, 15-28) about a vision from God that he had around 600 B.C., and see if the hair doesn’t start to rise up on the back of your neck:

      “In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream and visions of his head while on his bed. Then he wrote down the dream, telling the main facts.
      2 Daniel spoke, saying, “I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the Great Sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
      5 “And suddenly another beast, a second, like a bear. It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. And they said thus to it: ‘Arise, devour much flesh!’
      6 “After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.
      7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. 8 I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.”…

      …15 “I, Daniel, was grieved in my spirit within my body, and the visions of my head troubled me. 16 I came near to one (an Angel) of those who stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me and made known to me the interpretation of these things: 17 ‘Those great beasts, which are four, are Four Kings (the four major Gentile Kingdoms of History: Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome) which arise out of the earth. 18 But the saints (ISRAEL) of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom forever, even forever and ever.’
      19 “Then I wished to know the truth about the FOURTH beast (the last Gentile Kingdom), which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its nails of bronze, which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with its feet; 20 and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.
      21 “I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints (Israel), and prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.
      23 “Thus he (the Angel) said:
      ‘The fourth beast shall be
      A fourth kingdom on earth, (The last Gentile Kingdom before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ)
      Which shall be DIFFERENT from all other kingdoms, (The USA: populated by “Every Tribe, Tongue and Nation”—SUPER Rome!)
      And shall devour the whole earth,
      Trample it and break it in pieces. (The USA has the world’s most powerful Military Machine—EVER!)
      24 The ten horns are ten kings
      Who shall arise from this kingdom. (After a national emergency, 50 U.S. Governors are reduced to 10 Regional Authorities according to PDD-51)
      And another (King) shall rise after them;
      He shall be different from the first ones, (Unlike ALL his predecessors, the President becomes a DICTATOR under PDD-51)
      And shall subdue (Defeat) three kings. (3 of the 10 Governors will be overcome in a Civil War)
      25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, (“THE-ONE” is a silver-tongued narcissist)
      Shall persecute the saints (ISRAEL) of the Most High, (“THE-ONE” is pro-Muslim)
      And shall intend to change times and law. (“THE-ONE” promised “hope & change”)
      Then the saints (ISRAEL) shall be given into his hand (“THE-ONE” will punish Israel)
      For a time and times and half a time. (The last half of the 7-Year Tribulation)
      26 ‘But the court shall be seated, (The 2nd-Coming of Jesus Christ)
      And they shall take away his (Antichrist’s) dominion,
      To consume and destroy it forever. (The Antichrist will be cast into The Lake of Fire)
      27 Then the kingdom and dominion,
      And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
      Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. (ISRAEL will FINALLY inherit the PROMISED Kingdom of God on Earth)
      His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
      And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’ (JESUS CHRIST will Rule the Kingdom of God on Earth)
      28 “This is the end of the account. As for me, Daniel, my thoughts greatly troubled me, and my countenance changed; but I kept the matter in my heart.”

      God must think it to be VERY important for us to understand this prophecy in Daniel, because it is elaborated upon AGAIN in the most famous prophecy about the End Times: The Book of Revelation!

      “Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast (AMERICA?) rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon (SATAN) gave him (the ANTICHRIST) his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed (unsuccessful assassination attempt?). And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast (ANTICHRIST); and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” (NO…ONE can successfully wage war against the American Military!)
      5 And he (ANTICHRIST) was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months (the last 3 ½ years of the 7-year Tribulation). 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him (ANTICHRIST) to make war with the saints (ISRAEL) and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him (Hail to “THE-ONE”?), whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:1-8)

      “Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot (One-World Religious Syncretism led by the Roman Catholic Church?) who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”
      3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman (end-time rebuilt Babylon) sitting on a scarlet beast (AMERICA led by the “President”/Antichrist?) which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written:
      MYSTERY,
      BABYLON THE GREAT,
      THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
      6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints (ISRAEL) and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus (Tribulation-Era Believers in Jesus Christ). And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement. 7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast (USA?) that carries her, which has the seven heads (representative legacy of SIX historical empires: Sumeria; Egypt; Babylonia; Medo-Persia; Greece; Rome; AND…number seven, the future FINAL World Empire, AMERICA?) and the ten horns (the Ten Regional “Governors” of PDD-51?). 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
      9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains (KINGDOMS) on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen (Sumeria; Egypt; Babylonia; Medo-Persia; and Greece), one is (ROME), and the other (AMERICA under the leadership of The “President”/ANTICHRIST?) has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time (the 7-year Tribulation). 11 The beast that was (Nimrod, the “dead” Nephilim King of Sumeria?), and is not, is himself also the EIGHTH (Nimrod’s spirit “ascends out of the bottomless pit” and possesses The “President”/Antichrist?), and is of the seven, and is going to perdition (The Antichrist, “haunted” by Nimrod’s spirit, will be finally cast into the Lake of Fire at the Second-Coming).
      12 “The ten horns (Ten Regional “Governors” of PDD-51?) which you saw are ten kings (PLURAL) who have received no kingdom (SINGULAR-America?) as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast (The Antichrist). 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast (the Ten “Governors” acquiesce to the President/Dictator/Antichrist). 14 These will make war with the Lamb (at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ), and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”
      15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot (One-World Religious Syncretism controlled by the Vatican), make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom (AMERICA?) to the beast (the “President”/Antichrist under PDD-51), until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city (rebuilt End-Time Babylon) which reigns over the kings of the earth (the Antichrist/President will rule the world from Babylon during the last half of the Tribulation).” (Rev 17:1-18)
      You often hear prophecy scholars and laymen alike wonder aloud in puzzlement, “Where is the most powerful nation the world has ever known (the U.S.A.) in the Bible?” Well, if they would just OPEN…THEIR…EYES they might notice that 800 pound gorilla (AMERICA!) is right there in the Scriptural-room with them!

      After successfully recovering from the Great Depression of the 1930’s, the German nation (led by the WILDLY popular, CHARISMATIC leadership of Adolf Hitler) was one of the most civilized and prosperous countries in the world! A decade and a half later, Germany and most of Europe lay in ruins after “Der Fuehrer” had plunged the world into the greatest war (World War II) thus far in human history resulting in more than 50 million people killed including six million Jews. I shudder to say this, but despite the Jews vowing, “Never-Again,” the Bible says it WILL happen again (Dan 7:25). And sadly, it may be America’s turn to be the villain this time around just like it was “National Socialist” Germany’s turn under Hitler in the 20th century, France’s turn under the “Emperor” Napoleon in the 19th century, Spain’s turn in the 15th century, England’s turn in the 13th century (notice a pattern here?), and so on-and-on down through history! (Watch HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0mq-cdspIM&videos=nh44pKumF5s” )

      But, more than half the population of the U.S. (and the world for that matter) would say there is no way such a “nice” man like the leader of the free world could even remotely be a candidate for the most infamous character in Biblical prophecy! If you want to view some well-done videos on the subject, click this link ( HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBFB74EC159EBF19A&feature=plcp” ), start at the top flick…and fasten your seat belt if you’ve never been on this ride before! All of the information in these videos is well researched and compelling. They did not make these for partisan political purposes. They were made for people to make an informed analysis about a very important subject: The background and philosophy motivating the LEADER of the increasingly not-so-free world!

      I also believe there is a very good possibility that the Antichrist’s genealogy could be a COMBINATION of ALL families that disembarked from the Ark after The Flood. As a consequence of this view, all nations would be representatively culpable, thus no one on earth will be able to boast that they or their ancestors were guiltless concerning the “Man of Sin” and the coming horror that will be inflicted on the entire world. (Matthew 24:22). Another attention-grabbing detail of the Antichrist is his possible roots in the obviously satanically-inspired MUSLIM religion! Given that Islam is a creed of nefarious origin: See ( HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fE4beY8LjU” ) for an intriguing, potential connection between the number of the Beast (666) and the so-called “Religion of Peace.” Then watch ( HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlMXahjXJ_U” and HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juk6Pq2umTc&feature=related” ) for a very enlightening 2-hour/2-Part presentation with Former Muslim Terrorist, Walid Shoebat, about the REAL nature of Islam and its likely relation to end-time events. REMEMBER: the Antichrist will “HONOR (not worship) a god of fortresses” (the “Allah” of Islam) as foretold in Daniel, chapter 11, verse 38, but he will also “EXALT and magnify HIMSELF (Secular Humanism) ABOVE every god” (Daniel 11:36). Evocatively, “THE-ONE” was raised by his dysfunctional family to HONOR the combative “religion” of Islam (and its Moon-god, Allah), and his INTENSE, self-righteous NARCISSISM has become legendary!

      As I said before, America (for all intents and purposes) presently OWNS Iraq. The U.S. may also soon CO-OWN: Syria/Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan/Saudi-Arabia after the Jewish State totally defeats and overthrows the Arab nations currently surrounding her as prophesied in Psalm 83, Isaiah 17, and Isaiah 19:16-18 (Watch HERE: “http://www.lamblion.com/television/programs_pretrib9-Salus.php” ) not unlike what Israel accomplished in their lightning, wildly-victorious1967 Six-Day War! Unfortunately, over the years the Israelis have put themselves into a precarious position with the United States: Israel can’t even blow their own nose without asking the U.S. for permission! Therefore, in order to hold on to their yet-future spoils of war, which is actually the REST of their Promised Land, they will probably need a “Covenant” (sound familiar?) with their “Big-Brother,” Uncle Sam (we NEED the oil!). Almost every worthless peace-plan or treaty Israel has ever considered or signed has been promoted and co-signed by the Chief Executive of the United States of America! I believe it may be no different with the Prophesied 7-year Covenant with Israel being confirmed by the Antichrist according to Daniel 9:27 and Isaiah 28:14-15, 18 (Watch HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei2XGZk1QGg&playnext=1&videos=bEfLGgPNw1M” ).

      After the paradigm-shifting Psalm-83 War, all will SEEM to be right with the world, but it will just be the calm before the storm. Every able-bodied Arab will “Kow-Tow” and be gainfully employed by the most industrious people in the world—JEWS—who then will really own almost everything and not just suffer to be falsely accused of it! If my previous prognostication about America’s 10-Governor, National-Emergency Government headed by the President turned Dictator (PDD-51) doesn’t come to pass, the next most likely scenario may look something like the following. Israel may unite in a Coalition of ten nations made up of five “Toes” or “Kings” of the old WESTERN Roman Empire: England, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and four other Toes/Kings of the old EASTERN Roman Empire; Greece, Egypt (#1 subdued), Syria/Lebanon (#2 subdued), and the previously conquered nation #3, Iraq/Babylon (Dan 7:8). I believe these 10-Kings or Nations (“10-Toes” of Dan 2), along with America (the 11th Horn of Dan 7:24), could alternatively end up being the Biblically infamous end-time “10-Nation Confederacy” (10-Horns/Kings of Dan 7 & Rev 17:12) led by the overwhelming wealth and military power of the United States, which will endeavor to create a “Garden-of-Eden” like paradise out of the recently subjugated Fertile-Crescent of the Middle East!

      While the Israelis devote a significant amount of their post-war labors busily getting to work building their 3RD Temple in Jerusalem, some of their well-known organizational skills will concentrate on coordinating the rest of the Middle-East’s labor resources in a herculean effort to rapidly complete the massive rebuilding of a megalopolis worthy to be the center of world commerce and power, “that great city…BABYLON THE GREAT!” With the amazingly rapid completion of the two grand building projects, all will be ready for the “Man of Sin” and his world government to assume their proper roles at the appointed time in history. Since the end of the Psalm-83 war, the Russians (Rosh), Iranians (Persia), Turks (Togarmah), Libyans, and Sudan/Somalia (Ethiopia) will have been making their own malicious plans to crash the party of the American led 10-Nation Confederacy. According to Ezekiel chapter 38, the Russians will eventually lead their axis of remaining Muslim nations into a doomed invasion of the greatly enlarged, prosperous, and now peaceful land of GREATER Israel.

      After the “Fall-Out” (Eze 39:6) of the miraculous defeat of the Gog-and-Magog Axis (Eze 39) on “the Mountains of Israel,” the victorious Antichrist will triumphantly relocate his throne to the just-completed “Eastern White-House” where mankind’s rebellion first began after Noah’s Flood…BABYLON! And then, half-way through the 7-year covenant and resultant Tribulation, the Antichrist (now empowered by Satan) treacherously betrays Israel, and has a major “Identity Crisis” when he arrogantly presents himself in the recently completed Jewish Temple at Jerusalem as…“GOD!” (Watch HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2Zf8JDvoI&playnext=1&videos=hwizypSKB4s” ). Faithful Jews and Tribulation Believers will recognize this as the “OBAMAnation (!) of Desolation” “spoken of by Daniel the Prophet” (Mat 24:15), and the 3½ Year GREAT Tribulation, as identified in chapter 9:27; and 12:11 of the Book of Daniel, will commence in HORRIFIC earnest (Mat 24:21-22). From start to finish, the Great Tribulation (Rev 12-19) is quite literally HELL-on-Earth, UNTIL…the Creator, Sustainer, and Savior of the World, The Lord Jesus Christ, charges in from Heaven on a White Steed leading the Angelic Host to crush the forces of Darkness (Rev 19:11-21) and finally establishes The Kingdom of God on earth with His Chosen-People Israel, Tribulation Believers, and His Bride the Church…HALLELUJAH!!! (Watch HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrqHcZ01sE&playnext=1&videos=EKD9vUgcFbM” )

      Lastly, there may be this intriguing objection to my thesis: “I have one more thing that may eliminate, for now; our current president as the “Coming World Leader”. The physical description in Zech.11:17….‘Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock. The sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye; his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.’ Useless arm and blind in his right eye???”

      In answering this objection, I tend to believe Zech 11:17 may be referring to someone else entirely, because whenever God’s Word refers to a “SHEPHERD” of the “SHEEP,” it is usually speaking about Israel’s LEADER and PEOPLE respectively. If the Zechariah quote is for the end-times, it could be the False Prophet in view who comes from “the Earth” (Israel) according to Rev 13:11-17, as opposed to “the Sea” (Nations) where the Antichrist comes from (Rev 13:1-10). If the scripture in Zechariah is a portrait of the “Man of Sin,” the withered likeness of the described individual could have been caused by grievous wounds inflicted from an unsuccessful assassination attempt. Now, some students of prophecy think the Antichrist may be Israeli, but just try and imagine a leader of the Jewish Nation as the Antichrist of the whole world in today’s rabidly Anti-Semitic atmosphere…not even remotely possible! My Biblically considered opinion is that the Antichrist (1st Beast) is from the GENTILE nations (“the sea”), and the False Prophet (2nd Beast) is JEWISH (in “the land” of Israel) according to the 13th chapter of Revelation.

      In all our speculations, we must remember that interpretation of Biblical prophecy is an in-exact science at best. Here’s one frustratingly mind-bending example in Scripture, out of thousands, from Luke 4:16-21:

      “So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:

      18 “The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
      Because He has anointed Me
      To preach the gospel to the poor;
      He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
      To proclaim liberty to the captives
      And recovery of sight to the blind,
      To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
      19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”

      20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

      The passage the Lord read aloud was out of Isaiah 61:1-2, but he stopped at the COMMA following, “To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,” because we know NOW that His 1st Coming only fulfilled the prophecy up to that point. The rest of verse-2 AFTER the comma, “And the day of vengeance of our God;” will not be fulfilled until His 2nd Coming after the Great Tribulation. It is mind-boggling that a comma in that prophecy can represent almost two THOUSAND years so far! Carelessly blow off a comma in your interpretation and you can miss two…thousand…years of history! Is it any wonder you can have almost as many interpretations as interpreters. But, because the Lord ENDORSED “discern(ing) the signs of the times” (Mat 16:3), we should not despair of the immense difficulties of prophetic interpretation. As the world gets closer and closer to the end, we will begin to see the blurry outline of end-times prophecy sharpened up more and more by current events. It might also help to ALWAYS remember that Biblical prophecies are maddeningly complex riddles composed in the Mind of an Infinite…GENIOUS!

      In closing, I give this scenario that I’ve laid out about a 50% chance of being generally correct…at this juncture! The other half I split evenly between three other possibilities:
      (1.) Re-embodied Nephilim in the number one and number two Beast slots (Read HERE: “http://gracethrufaith.com/selah/as-it-was-in-the-days-of-noah/” );
      (2.) Someone out of the EU (revived Roman Empire) turns out to be the Antichrist due to America’s destruction from a financial, military, natural (solar flare?), or super-natural (Rapture?) catastrophe;
      (3.) I believe at this moment in time that the Muslim Antichrist theory, where the Man of Sin comes out of an Arab or Persian STATE, to be a VERY long-shot scenario…and therefore—PERVERSELY—more likely than not!

      I really do hope that I am wrong, but I think the Muslims may find out that their “Mahdi” (“The Guided One”) may be “The-One” that Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan, called the “messiah.” (Go HERE: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srk18X804hQ” )

      Well, there it is…the best Biblical harmonization of all the end-time prophecies that I could come up with in order to make the case that America and its Leader, and Israel and its Leader, could be “The Coming World Leader” (The Antichrist) and the False Prophet of Israel respectively. In accord with the Lord Jesus Christ’s words in Matthew 16:2-3, I hope this treatise helps in your applaudable endeavors to discern…“The Signs-of-the-Times.”
      MARANATHA

      • Weezie says:

        Thank you,Leonard, for taking the time to share that. It is definitely a worthy presentation in accordance to the Word. Of course it takes the Spirit of God to breath this Truth into our spirits. In these days it is a necessity to pay attention to the Holy Spirit as He will show us the way and all we need to know.
        Again, thank you for sharing your perspective.

        • Leonard says:

          Thank you very much, Weezie, for your kind words. I started working on this essay ever since “The-One” was elected in ’08, and I couldn’t believe my beloved country had done such a foolish thing…and now AGAIN in ’12!
          BTW, I probably wouldn’t have posted such a long comment if I would have known the posts are not shortened with a “See More” button! Oh well. :)
          MARANATHA!

          • Grace2013 says:

            Yes thanks Leonard. Obama is an American tragedy..twice over. Thank you for your service!!

          • ARIZONA says:

            GRACE,obamas a lot more then a tragedy,HE’S the anti-christ,HE CAN AND WILL DESTROY AMERICA,this country is going into captivity,by way of foreign military troops,and they are here,prepare your self,move inland “NOW”,leave the cities,they’ll be bombed, ask the lord where to go to be safe,he’ll tell you,your out of time hurry………and warn all your friends too,and if you wind up in a fema death camp,DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST,even if they kill you,theres no forgiveness for taking the mark,warn all your friends NOW………….

          • Leonard says:

            Grace:
            Please do NOT listen to “Arizona if you are a born-again Christian! ALL Believers will be RAPTURED to Heaven before the revealing of the Antichrist and the start of the Tribulation!

            Please read these links CAREFULLY: (copy & paste the links between the quotes into your browser): “https://www.facebook.com/shelia.a.moore.simonson#!/notes/leonard-belisle/will-the-church-go-through-the-tribulation/172225962833448”

            If you need a second witness, go HERE: “http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-WhyIBelieveTheBibleTe.pdf”

            MARANATHA!

          • aaron says:

            Actually if you carefully observe the scripture in KJV format you will realize that the believers are spared from the judgement that Christ brings with Him when He comes, NOt the tribulation of antichrists. the book of Mark clearly states that after the great tribulation he will gather his elect from the four corners of the earth. Do not think for a minute that his elect are people that arent currently saved. People who teach Pretribulation Rapture are false teachers. Dont take a preachers word for it. Do the reading for yourself. Another example is in thessalonians when paul teaches about the resurrection it says Christ descend from the heavens with a shout and the voice of the arch angel. This is another witness to His coming in Revelations….Chapter 17 if i remember correctly. God Bless Everyone

          • David says:

            Aaron speaks the truth, all believers will go through the tribulation, but not all will survive it,(only the elect, the 144,000). “The great multitude” of believers wich have the testimony of Yahushua, knowing that He is the son of Yahuwah, and sacrificed for our sins, wont all make it through the trib. They will be raptured first though after Yahushua returns and destroys the wicked. The elect are Yahuwah’s chosen and will not be able to be killed, “these are they that have the testimony of Yahushua, AND keep the commandments of the Father” and they will have a very important duty during the trib. I think this teaching of a pre-trib or even a mid-trib rapture will cause a big dissapointment, even a “falling away” of many professed christians. This is a very important time to read your bible yourself,pray and ask our Father for guidance, do not just show up for service and let someone fill your head with idealism without confirming it in the word. And not just any translation, you will find that many passages are different in the niv than the king james. Even the new king james doesnt always line up with the king james. Point being there are many bad translations out there, but you cant go wrong with king james, or even better Geneva 1560, or 1599, the bible of the reformation. Worldslastchance.com is a great study tool, but always confirm it in scripture.

          • Well said, David and Aaron. I currently read side by side the KJV. NKJV, NIV, Aramic Bible in plain english, international standard version, english standard version.

            I prefer top 2 in order KJV and NIV. I enjoy reading the different versions to see if something is being seriously twisted.

            But my recommendations of bibles in order is 1st the KJV, then the NIV If you had to chose that is what I would recommend to people and in that order.

      • I didn’t read all of your post, yet.
        America is most definitely in the bible. Genesis 49
        Jerusalem and the Jews are NEVER referred to in the bible as Israel. Israel was the 10 tribes that after captivity went over the Caucasus mountains, then into Europe,Ireland, America’s, Canada etc.
        The Jews are Judah and kenites. (learn the parable of the fig tree for more understanding) Look in your concordance the name kenite. (it’s the sons of Cain) then read John 8:42-44. Then Rev.2:9 and 3:9 those churches taught about ‘those who say their Jews but are the synagogue of satan”. Jerusalem is Jerusalem.
        Genesis 48 – Jacob (also named Israel) was giving Gods blessings to Josephs sons.
        His sons were Ephraim and Manasseh. To cut this short, we are Manasseh.
        Genesis 49 is where God gives his blessings to the 12 tribes. Check out Joseph. So yes, we are in the bible.
        The beast is the 1 world system.
        Babylon is the religious and commerce part of that system.
        Once you realize satan is a supernatural angel and the ones coming with him (booted out of heaven by Michael), then some of your theories might start to make sense. There’s only 1 people that are kin the satan – kenites. Those weren’t apple trees in the garden! If Adam and Eve had fig leaves on, where did the apples come in the picture? Tree of Life was Jesus, Tree of Knowledge of good and evil (serpent) was satan.
        Why would God say to the serpent, “I will put enmity between your seed (sperma) and her seed to a snake?
        Eve said, “he beguiled me”. Beguiled is ‘wholly seduced’.
        “And after she had Cain, it says, “she again bare his brother’ ‘again’ means to ‘continue’ she continued in labor and bore Able. They were twins. They came to age of accountability at the same time. They did their sacrifice at the same time.
        John 8:42-44 If God were your Father (upper case F), you would love Me… Ye are of your father (lower case f), the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning. (who was the first murderer?) hmmm Cain!
        The 2 witnesses will be supernatural also. God said he would send Elijah. Micah 4:1 and Luke 1:17 ‘and to turn the hearts of children to their fathers. hmmmmm
        If the Arch Angel Michael is booting these from heaven to earth, their going to look just like they did any other time they came. i.e. Daniel, Ezekiel. They were referred to as ‘man’ or ‘men’ then also.
        A good study tool for you would be the
        ‘ Companion Bible’. It’s a King James with more information than you can imagine.
        And of course there is no rapture. Hope this helps. There is no ‘maybe it’s this way or it might happen this way’, it’s going to go down one way Gods way! Jesus said, ‘ I have told you all things’, and ‘ Haven’t you read?

    • Wily says:

      I should of found the Biblical Script where it says that the man of perdition would be known to have or be the Assyrian. we still don’t know that much about the occupier but if ‘he’ has that descent (Syrian) we could be assured! If the occupier does not have this relationship we know Bark-O could be the runner up! Do you all remember the movie “the bad seed”? This little girl fits the mindset of the evil that has encroached this land (& globe) and has to be the Lord judging this nation!
      Lets say ‘he’ is not the AC but the one that was picked to bring us (last straw) down, does Obby understand that the looms will have to throw him (&her) away? The global’s plans are to round citizens up, reeducate and allow us freedoms as we progress through their program! This order to bundle all of N America into a global zone where anyone who may believe that Jesus is the only way are not allowed. This is an insult and a world w/out (my opinion) Jesus would only be Hell! They Ill-looms know Scripture and ‘they’ know the Biblical season, they also know (our Lord) may play a Rook or Bishop or even use one of Sa-tans Pawns to throw the devil system plan on it’s nose on a mound of camel dung, He done it so many times before! Sa-tan knows from the beginning of this once great nation of the Mayflower Compact and other man to God agreements (via prayer) that America may hold some surprises if ‘they’ aren’t careful! I can see the Lord strong Judgment of ‘those’ who are selling us out and DC was sent a strong Harbinger that rattled some monuments, I can see a set back if they continue as ‘they’ are! Does this administration really know the real dangers of dividing His Land and Holy City? No, but Bush Sr did get the clue via the super nor’easter! The foolish never seem to learn, when ‘they’ mess with His people that were bought at a very high price through the blood of Jesus of the Super Woe’s they bring on there selves!
      The Church needs to pray for pastor Sa’ed who’s trial has been moved up to the 21st of this month facing the one known as the hanging judge in I-ran, while praying for the pastor and family lets also remember the other brothers & sister’s around the world who also a being persecuted. Persecution is coming here, just remember the Lord has the Plan and He Will Right all wrong’s done against all His people! They may deliver us up, He Will Give us the Words to Say if He should tarry much longer! Either way, the Lord will Judge those who divide His land while ‘they’ are still on this earth, then a thousand yrs in Hell Then the Great White Throne Judgment which will make the horrible stay in Hell seem like a picnic!
      I’m am angry (of whats going on) but I pray it’s w/out sinning. One little word for those who wish harm to His people, your Judgment will be bad, just how much badder to you want to make it from here on out?!
      Love you all, understand your feelings and do believe we’re going Home (Blessed Hope) soon, we have to keep our focus on Jesus, this really work so we don’t get caught up with all the (sinful) anger of the world. Remember Hebrews chapter 13 (vs 6 – Greater is He that’s in us…) so we can Boldly Proclaim!

  7. Eric says:

    “Look up, for your redemption draweth nigh” The slow process of corrupting our people has left them numb to what is right and godly anymore. This is exactly why the Bible told us to “be sober, be vigilant”, and that we “wrestle not against flesh and blood”…but “rulers of darkness”. He and whomever else is behind all of this may full some – many, really, but I know others like myself are not ignorant. It is SO easy to sniff out every lie that comes out of that TV screen, out of every news/magazine page, and out of the mouths of these political blasphemers. This stuff is sick and sometimes scary, but it also excites me to know that “redemption” – true redemption from the true Messiah draws nigh, and will overthrow these enemies. Then, all of these corrupted leaders will look over at the “man of peace” in hell and say, “Is this the man who shook the nations?” Behold your leader America.

  8. Dean says:

    Wow, if this isn’t blatant wolf in sheeps clothing, or more like in goats clothing(satan’s minion). It seems pretty apparent, for this anti-christ to be in our oval office, that our great nation is under God’s judgement for all the its sins, millions of abortions, fornication(more people shacking up than married), out of wedlock births, corporate greed, war mongering against other nations and all the dead beat non working welfare slaves expecting freebies(2 thess 3:10, if a man doesn’t work he’s not fit to eat) that the stench of our sins has reached Heaven so strongly the God can’t stand the smell it any longer. So now judgement is here, they want our guns so they(NWO) can enslave us into their FEMA camps and issue the mark of the beast bio chip to track your every move, for the bogus monetary system is finally crashing and burning rapidly and all hell is fixing to break loose in our society. It is time to repent my fellow Americas, for if God is judging us, that’s our only hope. May I encourage all that haven’t already, to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, for He is the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except though Him. Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized into Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sin and you shall receive the gift of the Ho;y Spirit(which will comfort you in these horrific times we face) Mark 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved, but he who does not believe will be condemned. May God have mercy on use!!!

  9. glenn dupuis says:

    The saddest part of this whole thing it that apparently he believes it himself and therefore will act accordingly in his decision making. His biigest donor George Soros is an apostate Jew who sold out his fellow Jews to the Nazis.Talk about history repeating itself.

  10. Nam Marine says:

    Outright Blasphemy !
    Obama is a tool of Satan and will be defeated!

  11. John says:

    Godless heathen, “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.”

  12. Obama, the self declared Muslim, worships Allah, the Mesopotamian moongod. Strongs Concordance = H#421 to H#423 sez “the CURSE”! The second “L” is put in the word to obfuscate the meaning, but it is clear. Muslims worship the Curse.

  13. Weezie says:

    The Presidential election was one between God’s Blessing and God’s Judgment…obviously with eyes that see, we did not get the Blessing…how could we…America has turned from God and now, unless she repents and returns to God, America will slip further and further into bondage, and eventually be no more as we know her.
    It is obvious that the darkness over America is here to annilate all signs of God, and to exault that which is against God. So in light of our situation you can expect what we are living in our country. As Christians, we have God’s protection, even if our country doesn’t, so we need to pray for America to repent and return to God and if she does, God will heal our land. We also need to pray for revival.
    No matter how dark it gets, we have the Light of Jesus Christ, and we do not walk in darkness. We have nothing to fear. We know God is with us. Rejoice because our God is well able to deliver.

  14. anthony j says:

    I’VE BEEN READING ALOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT, AND AS A CHRISTIAN , ICANT BELIEVE PEOPLE R COMFORTABLE POST THEM FOR THE WORLD TO SEE! ONE, THE BIBLE SAYS IN PHILIPPIANS 2:12 WORK OUT YOUR ON SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING. SECOND YOU ARE TO SERVE CHRIST/JESUS NOT THE PRESIDENT.THREE PHILIPPIANS ALSO STATES IN 1:6 HE THAT BEGAN A GOOD WORK IN US IS FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE IT!FOUR ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT,ROMANS 3:23!
    WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE, CALLING SOME ONE THE ANTICHRIST! ONLY CHRIST JUDGEMENT IS CORRECT!
    WHAT IM GETTING TO IS THIS,PRAY FOR THOSE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY,LIKE THE BIBLE SAY.

  15. anthony j says:

    IN OTHER WORDS IF OUR PRESIDENT ,OR SOME ELSE CLAIMING TO BE A CHRISTIANS IS NOT DOING WATWE FEEL THEY SHOULD, OR WE ARE NOT LIVING THE WAY WE SHOULD, WE ARE ALL WORKS IN PRPROGRESS. LETS WORK ON PLEADING THE BLOOD OF JESUS AND PRAYER VERSUS BLASTING ARE PRESIDENT!! FOUR OUR STRUGGLE/FIGHT IS NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD/PRESIDENT, BUT AGAINST RULERS, AUTHORITIES ,POWERS OF THIS DARK WORLD , AND AGAINST THE SPIRITUAL FORCES OF EVIL IN THE HEAVENLY REALMS EPHESIANS6:12 NOT AGAINST NEWSWEEK AND THE PRESIDENT!!!

  16. IAMone2 says:

    BHO is not an American president.
    And the True Americans have let him know that he is not a president for America.
    He has been a disgrace to all who loves America and has digraced his own black African-American race.

    America is an Christian Nation!

    t 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

    Mat 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

    Peace be unto you

    Amen

    • Leonard says:

      I hate to burst your bubble, IAMone2, but after you watch this series of videos, you will NEVER again think of our country the same way: (copy & paste the link between the quotes into your browser)
      “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cflI7fk1ZZ8&list=PLNJHr6IVqhjIguL7grjhsbdOnrfQeYWuF”

      MARANATHA!

    • ARIZONA says:

      Iamone2,the anti-christ comes from the renewed roman empire,KENYA,ruled by england,ruled by the renewed romeman empire,ruled by the roman caticolic church,sent to destroy mystery babylon the great,woe(ww1) woe (ww2) woe (ww3) the last war is about to begin,NO HE’S NOT AMERICAN AND NEVER WAS,HE’s a cloned egyptian pharaoh, the old empire…….the anti-christ himself……….I can’t believe I’am seeing history unfold in front of my eyes………..

  17. anthony j says:

    ARE COMMENTS BEING SCREENED? BECAUSE I’VE POSTED 2 AND I STILL DON’T SEE THEM. WOW REALLY!!!! I GUESS IF I HAD SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, OR SOMETHING NEGATIVE IN GENERAL I’D SEE IT!! O WELL ANOTHER SITE BITES THE DUST!!!

  18. I CANT BELIEVE AS A CHRISTIAN SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD POST SO MUCH ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT!FIRST THE BIBLE SAYS IN PHILIPPIANS 2:12 WORK OUT YOUR ON SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING!YOU ARE TO FOLLOW CHRIST NOT NEWSWEEK OR THE PRESIDENT. SECOND, PHILIPPIANS ALSO IN 1:6 HE THAT BEGAN A GOOD WORK IN YOU IS FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE IT. WE OUR ALL WORKS IN PROGRESS IF WE CALL OUR SELVES CHRISTIANS! 3RD IN EPHESIANS 6:12 IT SAY WE DONT FIGHT/WAR WITH FLESH AND BLOOD/PRESIDENT,BUT AGAINST RULERS AUTHORITIES POWERS OF THIS DARK WORLD,AND AGAINST SPRITUAL FORCES OF EVIL IN THE HEAVENLY REALMS!! NOT THE PRESIDENT OR NEWSWEEK. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS AGAINST SATAN AND PRAY!!! BECAUSE HE WAS AROUND WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY WAY BBBBEEEFFFOOOORRREEE BEFORE PRESIDENT OBAMA! WE ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF CHRIST ROMANS 3:23!! IN OTHER LET GOD/CHRIST BE THE JUDGE! PHARAOH, NEBBUCHADNEZZAR,OR PILATE OR PRESIDENT OBAMA WOULDN’T IN OFFICE BUT FOR GOD/JESUS ! HE/JESUS WORKS ALL THINGS FOR OUR GOOD ROMANS8:28 LAST THE BILE SAYS PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS NOT MURDER THEM WITH OUR WORDS FOR IT IS WRITTEN IN MATT 12:36 MAN SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT FOR EVERY WORD.

    • Leonard says:

      The information about our current “president” is for the benefit of those who are uninformed about the diabolical potential of this EVIL man.

      All TRUE Christians will not be here to find out the identity of the Antichrist, but they can warn unbelievers what and WHO may be about to be unleashed after the pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church.

      IF…you are a “Faithful Christian” and you voted for BHO, realize that YOU and other “Christians” like you probably elected the ANTICHRIST! About 30% of Evangelical “Christians” voted for Obama in ’08 and 20% in ’12, which was MORE than the margin of victory in numbers of voters for “The-One!” Have fun trying to explain THAT one to the LORD.

      Want some helpful information on the subject? Go HERE: (copy & paste the link between the quotes into your browser “http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBFB74EC159EBF19A&feature=plcp”

      Sleep Tight… ;)

      • There won’t be a pre tribulation Leonard!! We will be here as stated in the bible.

        2 Thessalonians 2: 1-3
        Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (RAPTURE)

        2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

        3 Let no man deceive you by any means (WARNING TO NOT BE DECEIVED ABOUT RAPTURE): for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (ANTICHRIST)

        Matthew 24: 29-31
        29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (JESUS’S WORDS SAYING WE WILL BE HERE THROUGH THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect (THE RAPTURE)from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

        • Leonard says:

          You do err, “John3:16 / New York,” not knowing the Scriptures.
          Rather than trying to “reinvent the wheel,” I will direct you to an essay of mine on this very subject (copy & paste the link between the quotes into your browser): “https://www.facebook.com/shelia.a.moore.simonson#!/notes/leonard-belisle/will-the-church-go-through-the-tribulation/172225962833448”

          If you need a second witness, go HERE: “http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-WhyIBelieveTheBibleTe.pdf”

          MARANATHA!

          • I know the scriptures EXTREMELY WELL !!! Rather then trying to see where and why your theology does not line up with the scriptures you are trying to make the scriptures fit your theology and I know your type very well. The bible verifies itself and testify’s to itself. All Gods word breathed out to different writers confirming and testifying to each other.

            I read the bible not some one else’s articles trying to re-invent the bible and argue their own theology rather then what the bible actually says.

            Thessalonians is writings from Paul and in particular Thessalonians 2 he starts off with telling them they are teaching the rapture wrongly!!!!!!!!!! He corrects them and warns them against this false teaching and to not be deceived !!!!!!!!! Then tells them specifically that they will see the man of sin first before any rapture (gathering together takes place).

            YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT
            I would ask for the holy spirit to guide you and try and find out why your theology does not line up with the scriptures.
            Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! Amen!!

            The bible is clear, factual and there is not arguing those facts.

          • Your are absolutely right! The reason Paul wrote Thess. 2 is because they didn’t get the 1st one right! So he wrote again about the gathering back to our Lord. Jesus comes back at the 7th trump, satan the 6th. Paul clearly tells us that at the TRUMP OF GOD is when Jesus comes. 1 Thess 4:16
            How many trumps are there?
            6 is a number for satan. 7 for God
            Do you really think satan is going to come at the ‘Trump of God’? Go to Rev. and see which trump satan comes in.
            Please people, stop listening to man and study for yourself! Get you a Strongs Concordance with a King James Bible.
            Believing in the rapture is having you walk right in to satans camp. Your being deceived!

            Think about this:

            Almost all the churches today teach the rapture. Plus all the false religions out there.

            Jesus said the WHOLE world will be deceived, except for HIS Elect, which will be small in number compared to everyone else.

            WHO IS GETTING DECEIVED HERE?

            The small number who know the truth or the WHOLE REST OF THE WORLD?

            John 3:16 all we can do is pray for eyes to be opened.

        • Gods Wrath and the Great Tribulation are 2 separate things. People and the bible is correct, we WILL NOT be here for Gods WRATH. We will be here for the tribulation and we will see the man of sin revealed as stated in the bible as well.

          • Leonard says:

            Either you are the FASTEST speed reader in the world OR…you are a person that doesn’t want to be confused with the facts. Whichever, if you think YOU are not going in a pre-trib Rapture, unfortunately…you just might be right!
            Sleep tight… ;)

          • Not only were you warned by writings from Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2 but Peter also has something to say about this as well!!!! Just warning you per the bible.

            2 Peter 3: 16-18
            16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

            17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

            We have been warned against your type Leonard and told not to fall from our secure position!! Just the words of the bible. It would be wise for you to pray that the spirit may guide you.

            I will pray for you and those that have been led astray.

          • Steve S says:

            Leonard..when do you think the rapture will occur? I am asking because I have a friend who is pre trib and has thought “any moment now” for many years. The longer we go into this slippery slope as a nation and no rapture..she is losing faith.

          • Leonard says:

            The teachings of ALL the Apostles and early Church fathers was an IMMINENT PRE-Tribulation Rapture of the Christian Church. If Obama is the Antichrist, ALL born-again Christians will be Raptured to Heaven BEFORE the Tribulation and the confirmation of the Antichrist’s identity.

            Go here for Scriptural verification of a PRETRIBULATION Rapture: (copy & paste the link between the quotes into your browser): “https://www.facebook.com/shelia.a.moore.simonson#!/notes/leonard-belisle/will-the-church-go-through-the-tribulation/172225962833448”

            If you need a second witness, go HERE: “http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-WhyIBelieveTheBibleTe.pdf”

            MARANATHA!

          • aaron says:

            YOU ARE WRONG LEONARD. PAUL WAS TEACHING ON THE RESURRECTION NOT A PRE TRIB RAPTURE. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THE THEME OF 1ST CORINTHIANS AND 1ST THESS CORRECT. ITS POSSIBLE OTHER EARLY CHURCH FATHERS TAUGHT A PRETRIB RAPTURE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? GOD DIDNT SEE FIT TO HAVE THEIR WORK CANNONIZED. ALL CANNONIZED APOSTLES DID NOT TEACH A PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE. IF YOU WANA GO WITH OUTSIDE WRITINGS THEN I WILL PUT 1ST ENOCH ABOVE ALL OF THEM AND IT CLEARLY STATES IN ITS BEGINNING YOUR ARE SPARED FROM GOD’S WRATH NOT THAT LOSER THE DEVIL. HE HAS NO POWER OVER GOD’S ELECT. AND DONT FORGET THAT PAUL SAYS WE ARE TO BE HAPPY TO SUFFER FOR CHRIST….WHY DO YOU NOT WANT TO? DONT PUT TO MUCH INTO YOUR FLESH BODY…RATHER OFFER IT UP TO SUFFERING AND THRU THAT GLORIFY THE FATHER!!!!!!

          • Thank you aaron!! God Bless You!!! We need to pray for Leonard.

          • WRONG! This teaching did not start till 1830 a.d., by Margaret McDonnell. Go to the Manuscripts on. No one taught this! Check it out.
            The facts are out there.

          • I find it hard to believe this teaching started in just 1830 a.d. The reason being is Paul in Thessalonians went out of his way to correct those who had a different teaching.

            2 Thessalonians 2: 1-3
            Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (RAPTURE)
            2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
            3 Let no man deceive you by any means (WARNING TO NOT BE DECEIVED ABOUT RAPTURE): for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (ANTICHRIST)

            This whole verse is to tell them that the pre tribulation teaching is false and not to be deceived. PROOF THAT THIS TEACHING WAS INCORRECT AND BEING TAUGHT BACK THEN.

          • I am quite sure you have figured out a way for your theology to work around this verse as well!!!

            Revelation 20:4-5
            4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (specifically mentioning people being here during tribulation)

            5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

            Once again the tribulation period is satan’s wrath (brought about by people) Gods wrath comes right after rapture and is poured out upon the unjust and unrighteous!! The bible is clear in those facts.

  19. Toma Joel says:

    Thus says The Lord, to the generation of His wrath:

    I have trumpeted to you, yet you cover your ears. I shall show signs and wonders the likes of which as has never been seen, indeed many signs are made plain already, yet you cover your eyes. Is this not a small thing for The Lord, and the judgment poured out on Egypt a mere twinkle in the vesture of God’s power?
    Yet you refuse to repent! Neither will you bow down, for your hearts are hard and your mouths vile! Therefore, judgment is come! Judgment shall fall! It shall fall hard upon your backs and be very heavy!… Breaking the backs of the wicked, abasing the proud and humbling the haughty, casting down the high-minded and bringing swift death upon the oppressor! Behold, on the whole multitude, upon every inhabitant of the earth, shall it fall! All shall be broken!… Some broken and lifted up; and many more, broken and condemned.

    THE TIME HAS COME!…
    Hear the WORD of the LORD spoken to THIS modern generation!…

    Letters from God and His Christ, given to a modern man for modern man’s sake!

    TrumpetCallofGodonline . com

  20. azgirl says:

    Earl, totally agree, what about those drones? He already uses them to spy on americans it’s no great leap for him to use them on americans here in the u.s.
    Anthony, stop crying about not seeing your pub, after all you didn’t write it for your own gratification did you!

  21. EMBARRASSMENT. that is what this cover does to me. couldnt the illuminati have come up with someone who is even a tad above mediocre? or is Obomba supposed to by Everyman? the populist savior? what a stupid, predictable scam by the purveyors of fake WMDs.
    Puke.

  22. —-QUOTING LEONARD Grace:
    Please do NOT listen to “Arizona if you are a born-again Christian! ALL Believers will be RAPTURED to Heaven before the revealing of the Antichrist and the start of the Tribulation!

    Now the words of the bible. Do not let anyone lead you astray. By doing so you and your faith will be weakened at the most critical time. Stay strong in your faith, pray for the spirit regularly and READ THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF!!

    2 Thessalonians 2: 1-3
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (RAPTURE)
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means (WARNING TO NOT BE DECEIVED ABOUT RAPTURE): for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (ANTICHRIST)

  23. Steve S says:

    Arizona…you sound hysterical. Are you saying obama is a vcloned Egyptian Pharaoh??

  24. Clear facts on the rapture! Watch!!

    Both these videos show you and tell you the actual scriptures that you can look up yourself. STRAIGHT FROM THE BIBLE. Pause and read them!

  25. Grace2013 says:

    Yes I do follow Irwin Baxter. Record his show each week:) he was pretrib…switched to post.

    • Thank you Grace I just don’t want to let anyone lead anyone astray. NOT ON MY WATCH! NOT IN MY PRESENCE!! God Bless you Grace!

      • Tracy says:

        New York, why do you keep posting footage of Irwin Baxter? I watch hin too; however there are a few more great pastors who see the rapture differently, as pre-tribulation. We need not worry about when, we just need to be a truly saved child of God. One way or the other He will take care of us. DO NOT PUT FEAR IN PEOPLE. God does not give us the spirit of fear. Read John 14:1. God Bless

        • Tracy I am only stating exactly what the bible says. You seem to be very sheltered and misguided. If your not gathering with your scattering abroad. Not my words but words of God. Right out of the bible.

          Now if you think you can run around saying I believe in Jesus saying happy go lucky things in wonderland while supporting different and confusing meanings to the word of God (bible) then go right ahead. The bible has warnings, very scary warnings for those who do these things.

          Proverbs 9:10
          The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding

          Without that healthy fear of the Lord you will continue to support people who scatter abroad. Saying everyone can believe whatever they like.

          Matthew 12:30
          He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

          2 Peter 3: 16-18
          16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

          You know who else believes in wonderland and everything is just happy go lucky and doesn’t heed the warnings of the bible. Oprah. Saying there are many ways to get to heaven. You can’t say I believe and pray to Jesus while leading people astray and weakening their faith.

          You can’t pray to Jesus and ask for help while seeking to do others harm and expect him to help you. Just saying. Up to you but there are an awful lot of warnings in the bible for you to read. The part which most pastors and preachers refuse to share with their people. The part showing the consequences! One of the problems with the world today. They really have no idea of the consequences of what they are doing.

          • Tracy says:

            Why don’t you try watching John Hagee, Ed Hindson, Jack Van Impe, Lamb &Lion Ministries, etc., then you wouldn’t be so sure of yourself. You do have a problem when someone disagrees with you;, you judge people.
            God Bless

          • I have a problem when people disagree with the word of God yes. You have a problem with me and why I am posting. I do not have a problem with you.

            I have a problem with people twisting and distorting Gods word and even Jesus’s words.

            OOOO lets see I believe in Jesus and I am all for Jesus but nothing of what he says means anything to me and I will continue to teach people incorrectly regardless of what Jesus has said. For example:

            In Matthew 24, Jesus’ disciples ask Him what will be the sign of His return?

            “When you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place

            “then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be”

            Jesus also tells us that we will see him coming in the clouds with great power and glory. Its absolutely amazing how Jesus tells you exactly what you will see and what will happen.

            Yet people have created there own story about some mysterious mystery is going to take place and we are all going to disappear before all this takes place. These are the very same people who are not even close to being ready!

            Matthew 24:29-31
            29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (JESUS’S WORDS SAYING WE WILL BE HERE THROUGH THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS)the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect (THE RAPTURE) from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

            Amazing how Jesus himself speaks clearly yet they will continue to corrupt not only their mind but others as well, straight to their own destruction.

            Send mr Hagee and the rest of these twisters and distorters of the word in here and I will mope the floor with them in Jesus Christs name for it will not be me speaking it will be him and his spirit.

            Matthew 10:20
            For it is not you that speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks through you.

            I AM LISTENING TO JESUS ARE YOU?

            I am sry that you have been seriously mislead but when you WAKE UP TRACY. You will humble yourself, ask for forgiveness and seek the truth and then you will find it. But not until then.

            AGAIN!! I AM LISTENING TO JESUS ARE YOU?

            Or are you listening to mr Hagee who would like you to buy his next book.

  26. Leonard I have just quoted you saying that we will be raptured before the Antichrist is revealed and then I just pointed people to the word of God. THE BIBLE where it says in:

    2 Thessolonians 2

    for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (ANTICHRIST)

    Based on that you have been proven to say something the bible does not say!!! As I have shown with the help of Jesus Christ and the Spirit and through his word (the bible).

    Your highly confused and your leading people down a very dangerous path!! WHY??? Well lets look at Jesus’s Disciples!!!!!! Peter to be specific!! Considered to be the strongest!!!

    PETER DENIED CHRIST 3 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Your leading people to believe that they will not be here during the tribulation and in doing so you will have weakened their faith at THE MOST CRITICAL TIME. When they will have to refuse the mark under torture and even death and all kinds of things. READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE. Everything I have given you is clear and you can look it up yourself. Be not deceived and be strong in faith, stronger then PETER!!!

    Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! Amen!!

    • Leonard says:

      YOU are the one “troubling the Brethren,” dude.

      If you think YOU are not going in a pre-trib Rapture, unfortunately…you just might be right!

      Sleep tight… ;)

  27. Grace2013 says:

    I have a feeling after this second term begins we are in for a heck of a ride. My faith and hope lies totally with Jesus. I know He loves us and will look over His faithful. I don’t know if obama is the antichrist but I do know he is evil.

  28. Irvin Baxter consulted with President Reagan numerous times. Irvin Baxter also predicted that these events that we have now would come due to the collapsing of the Soviet Union. President Reagan was the last president to warn us with direct passages from the scriptures of what was coming!!

  29. Leonard says:

    (2Th 2:1-12) “Now, brethren, concerning the coming (the 2nd Coming) of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together {the RAPTURE} to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ (The Tribulation) had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away (more properly defined as “the DEPARTURE”) comes first, {The RAPTURE} and the man of sin (The Antichrist) is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple (3rd Jewish Temple) of God, showing himself that he is God.” (“OBAMAnation of Desolation”)

    The teachings of ALL the Apostles and early Church fathers was An IMMINENT PRE-Tribulation Rapture of the Christian Church. If Obama is the Antichrist, ALL born-again Christians will be Raptured to Heaven BEFORE the Tribulation and the confirmation of the Antichrist’s identity.

    Go here for Scriptural verification of a PRETRIBULATION Rapture: (copy & paste the link between the quotes into your browser): “https://www.facebook.com/shelia.a.moore.simonson#!/notes/leonard-belisle/will-the-church-go-through-the-tribulation/172225962833448”

    If you need a second witness, go HERE: “http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-WhyIBelieveTheBibleTe.pdf”

    NTEB is a PRETRIBULATION Rapture website. The Mid and Post Tribulation Rapture proponents spamming on this site are TROLLS.

    MARANATHA!

    • Tracy says:

      Leonard, thank you.
      God will take care of His, and no one can change that.
      Faith in God will get us through this regardless of what happens during Obama’s reign or afterwards.

      • Leonard says:

        Amen and thank you Tracy:
        (Rev 3:10)“Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will KEEP YOU {the RAPTURE} from the hour of trial (the TRIBULATION) which shall come upon the whole world, to TEST those who DWELL ON THE EARTH.” (Unbelievers Only!)
        MARANATHA!

        • Interesting how people quote scriptures to back up their false doctrine. If you read Revelation 3 you will see the audience is the church of Philadelphia!!

          Revelation 3:10 is often quoted to support the pre trib rapture doctrine or an escape from the Great Tribulation for all believers. However like all other verses, it has a specific audience and making the verse a proof text for the rapture ignores this audience.

          Ignoring the audience of any verse is a very common way to reach wrong conclusions and produce erroneous doctrines. In fact, it leads to some of the most damaging doctrines in Christianity that have believers in bondage.

          Learning how to recognize audience and other aspects of the context of a passage will help you avoid being deceived by misuse of the Bible.

          The audience in this case is the Philadelphia church of the First Century or the prophetic church era that already ended before our current Laodicean era began.

          Our backslidden church era is the one awaiting the Great Tribulation who must go through it. In other words, the Bible teaches that the only way to to be kept from the time of trouble coming over the face of the earth is to reach the end of YOUR TIME before the end times.

  30. —-QUOTING LEONARD Grace:
    “Please do NOT listen to “Arizona if you are a born-again Christian! ALL Believers will be RAPTURED to Heaven before the revealing of the Antichrist and the start of the Tribulation!”

    Now I will give you the words of the bible and what the bible says. Do not let anyone lead you astray. By doing so you and your faith will be weakened at the most critical time. Stay strong in your faith, pray for the spirit regularly and READ THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF!!

    2 Thessalonians 2: 1-3
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (RAPTURE)
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means (WARNING TO NOT BE DECEIVED ABOUT RAPTURE): for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, AND that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (ANTICHRIST)

    • As far as the antichrist we have to continue to watch things unfold. I would not venture to say he is the antichrist, but I would also not venture to say he is not. There are an alarming number of coincidences, we just have to watch! I will state what we know. He believes in a false God and he has done some seemingly evil things. We have seen that much. The rest we will just have to watch and pray.

  31. Quote from Leonard “The teachings of ALL the Apostles and early Church fathers was An IMMINENT PRE-Tribulation Rapture of the Christian Church. If Obama is the Antichrist, ALL born-again Christians will be Raptured to Heaven BEFORE the Tribulation and the confirmation of the Antichrist’s identity.”

    That is exactly why Paul wrote a letter!!!

    That letter was Thessalonians!!!!! Where he warned them to not be deceived and that a falling away AND the man of sin was going to be revealed first!!!!!! Before the rapture happened!!!!!

    • Paul wrote Thessalonians to correct the wrong teachings so that people would not be confuse and things would be clear!! THOSE WHO READ THERE BIBLES WILL SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

      Those who try to follow someone else’s theology that doesn’t fit with the bible will continue to be confused, weakened and lead astray in their faith. PRAYER can and will help you.

      Matthew 7:7
      “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

      Read your bibles do not listen to the teachings of Leonard!!

  32. Grace2013 says:

    Just read the passsge in my KJ Bible…that is exactly what it says NY!!!! Those two things MUST happen first.

  33. Grace2013 says:

    The Bible is the only truth.

  34. JEDIAM says:

    Hosea 4:6
    King James Version (KJV)
    6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

    THE TRUE MEANING OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001
    Revelation 9:11
    King James Version (KJV)
    11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

    JESUS DOES NOT WANT HIS PEOPLE WEAK OR DISARMED!
    Luke 22 36:38
    New International Version (NIV)
    36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’[b]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”
    38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”
    “That’s enough!” he replied.

    SEIG HEIL CAESAR OBAMA!!
    THIS IS THE END OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
    OBAMA IS A DICTATOR OUTSIDE OF THE LAW! HE IS A MANIAC WHO IGNORES THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! THIS MADMAN TOOK AN OATH BEFORE GOD AND COUNTRY! THE REPUBLIC IS OFFICIALLY DEAD! ALL OF YOU WEAK GUN GRABBERS ARE GOING TO PAY THE ULTIMATE PRICE FOR YOUR TREASON! YOUR OVERLORDS WILL SHOW YOU NO QUARTER WHEN THE SLAUGHTER COMES! YOUR CHILDREN THAT YOU WANT TO PROTECT WILL BE FOOD FOR THESE DEMONS! YOUR WOMEN WILL BE RAPED! AND YOU WEAK MEN WILL BE ENSLAVED TO THE HORDE OF HELL’S ANGLES! THIS MADNESS IS PROPHESIED IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS IN THE HOLY BIBLE! READ IT FOR YOURSELF GOD DOES NOT LIE MEN LIE! NO ONE IS INNOCENT IN THE EYES OF JESUS CHRIST NOT EVEN CHILDREN! READ WHAT HOSEA 4:6 SAYS ABOUT HOW JESUS FEELS ABOUT THOSE WHO IGNORE KNOWLEDGE! CAESAR OBAMA USES FEAR AS A WEAPON OF POWER FEAR IS A LIE! THE DEVIL IS A LIE! CAESAR OBAMA IS A LIE! ALL HIS WORK ALL HIS TALK ALL HIS ACTION IS A LIE! TO ALL PATRIOTS DO NOT COMPLY TO THE ORDERS OF A LIE! JESUS IS THE TRUTH HE DOES NOT WANT HIS PEOPLE WEAK OR DISARMED! WOE TO THOSE WHO GO AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF JESUS CHRIST! WOE TO THOSE WHO SERVE CAESAR OBAMA AND HIS LIES! WOE TO THOSE WHO DOUBT THE WORD OF JESUS CHRIST! AMERICA IS THE NEW JERUSALEM! GOD WAS CLEAR “THIS IS MY LAND AND WOE TO THOSE WHO FORSAKE IT!”

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14237-un-general-assembly-votes-unanimously-to-hammer-out-global-gun-control-treaty

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/how-obamas-gun-order-will-backfire/

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=innocents+betrayed+the+true+story+of+gun+control&oq=innocents&gs_l=youtube.1.1.0l10.7690.22697.0.25824.9.7.0.2.2.0.147.726.4j3.7.0…0.0…1ac.1.SZtH0KEYwVo

  35. Leonard says:

    The “Falling Away” in 2Th 2:3 should actually be rendered THE DEPARTURE! In other words, the RAPTURE happens BEFORE “the man of sin” is revealed and the Tribulation begins.

    If there is anyone here that wants to investigate the above assertion, go here (copy & paste the link between the quotes into your browser): “http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-TheRapturein2Thessal.pdf”

    MARANATHA!

  36. All I can do is pray for you Leonard, your twisting Gods word to fit your own theology. You have a serious problem cause your theology does not fit with Gods word. I have proven that, the rest is up to you to pray for guidance. May the Lord God grant you the spirit to see truth! However as long as you remain stubborn and you do not humble yourself before God and his word, you will not receive the Spirit. So again the rest is up to you. Remaining stubborn and ignorant is what Peter warns.

    2 Peter 3: 16-18
    16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. (this passage specifically talks about being stubborn and ignorant to their own destruction)

    The bible also says you must humble yourself. I realize that a lot of pastors and preachers will likely go to war with me on this issue because they have lead whole congregations astray and to admit they were wrong will be an extremely hard thing to do.

    Now with that said I will quote you again!!
    The “Falling Away” in 2Th 2:3 should actually be rendered THE DEPARTURE! In other words, the RAPTURE happens BEFORE “the man of sin” is revealed and the Tribulation begins.

    If your interpretation was true then it would match up with the whole bible!!! But from this next verse as we see here and people can look it up. We see that it does not match up:

    Revelation 20 : 4-5
    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. ( these verses specifically mention believers being here during and through tribulation period)

    As you continue to take mans word over Gods word, you will continue to be humbled by me through Gods word. I have no doubt that he is helping me rebuke you effectively with his words.

    Romans 3:4
    God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged.

  37. cliche says:

    FAITHFUL CHRISTIAN SAID IT BEST….its not his fault if the media label him like that…I can’t wait to 2016 just so I can see what people will say then…..if he is the anti Christ…then he should be revealing himself real soon…so cliche…first thing people say is troll troll troll….so cliche…just a bunch of angry white people….you know the ones who is doing the mass shootings…blaming Obama for your lack of self worth…if he was white …90% percent of yall wouldnt care….and his moral issues is irrelevant…because if he was a full. fledged Christian ..you people would still hate him…jealous white people…

    • Tracy says:

      I am so sorry, but you are so wrong.
      All of us need to pray to God, and ask for direction during these trying times. As for me, never beforeI have I seen so much evil happening in the U.S.
      Time is short!
      God Bless US

    • God loves all HIS children, just not the things they do.
      What has our supposed leader done?
      1. He repealed the bestiality law making it legal for people to have sex with animals. Christian?
      2. Pushing for Homosexuals, which God says is an ABOMINATION! Christian? hmmm
      3. He doesn’t believe in the God of the Bible.
      Christian? hmmmmm
      4. Why did God hate Esau? He didn’t care about his heritage. Bho denies his heritage, and lies before God. Christian? hmmmmmmm

      I’m sure other people can put MANY more things up here!

      It doesn’t matter what any white man thinks!
      IT’S WHAT GOD THINKS!!!!!!!!

  38. Grace2013 says:

    Why do you assume we are all white? I believe that’s racist.

    • Agreed!! Believing in Jesus Christ has no bearing on being black or white. Believers in Jesus Christ know who the one true God is and do not stand up for people who believe in false gods!!!

      Obama is muslim (admitted in his own autobiography).
      allah is a false god!!

      This has nothing to do with black or white!!
      This has to do with believing in Jesus Christ and Gods word the BIBLE!

      1 John 5: 12
      12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

      Acts 4: 8-12
      8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel:
      9 If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, 10 let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.
      11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.
      12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

  39. Weezie says:

    Okay, I would like to share…
    I am fascinated with End Time Prophecy because we are living it! and because I have always wanted to understand it.

    I recently read a book by Hilton Sutton, Th.D, called “The Next Resurrectiion”. This books gives an accounting of 8 Raptures.
    1. Enoch
    2. Elijah
    3. Jesus
    4. The Church (we are next)
    5. The Great Multitude
    6. The 144,000
    7. The Two Witnesses
    8. Jesus Return

    In 1 Cor. 15:51-53, Paul wrote these words concerning the Rapture of the Church:
    “Behond, I shew you a mystery: We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed,in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this moral must put on immorality.”

    Paul also addresses this again to the Thessalonians in 1 Thes. 4:15-17.

    Notice that in both scriptures the rapture of the Church and the resurrection of all the righteous since Adam (the next resurrection) occur at the exact same time.

    Study carefully the seventh angelic trumpet of Revelation 11 and you will make a discovery: the events surrounding the seventh trumpet are NOT the same as those surrounding the last trumpet of God The last trumpet is God’s final signal to welcome the Church into heaven. (I am quoting from the book)

    The prophetic Scriptures (Zech. 14 and Rev. 19 and 20 ) tell of Christ’s return NOT His appearing to receive His Church! These are two separate and distinct events.
    The book explains, “There is a major distinction between the “last trump.” which is the “trumpet of God” heralding the Rapture of the Church, and the seventh angelic trumpet which precedes Christ’s return to earth in judgment.

    The Church—that company of born-again, Spirit-filled, Spirit-led followers of Jesus; through whom God is working to reach the masses of people today—will be taken out of the way. The anointed Church is the restrainer, withholding unrestraind lawlessness in this hour. (so good!)

    There is just SO much to this book and it is clear and concise.

    It goes on to say, “Several things must take place before the Antichrist can begin his activity. The righteous Church has to be taken up to heaven to stand before the throne of God, observing as Jesus opens the first seal. When it is opened, the Antichrist is released. If Jesus never opened that first seal, the Antichrist could never begin his evil activity, whether we were up there or not. But Jesus will not open the seal until we are there. Our departure to heaven and the opening of the first seal both reveal and release the Antichrist.”

    Love this part…”the book of Revelation makes it clear that at the appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ, the righteous will be caught up unto Him and WILL NOT BE ON EARTH DURING THE SEVEN YEARS OF TRIBULATION. Chapter 4 verses 1 and 2 harmonize beautifully with 1 thessalonians 4:16-18 and Luke 21:36.”

    In the words of Jesus, and in the writings of Paul, we as members of the true Chrusch are admonished to watch and pray, to look for His appearing, and to keep ourselves in a state of readiness. God’s Word clearly defines His glorious appearing, so there need not be any further confusion concerning it. There are many references in the Scriptures regarding this sudden and glorious appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ. These Scriptures admonish us to be ready, vigilant, sober watching and praying. Christ’s appearing IS going to happen, and what an exciting event it will be!” (Matt. 24:44; 25:13; Mark 13:32-37; Luke 21:2836; Heb. 9:28; Titus 2:13

    • Romans 3:4
      God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged.

      That author uses the bible but he starts with the book of Enoch!!!!!!!
      The book of Enoch is not the bibles word!!! That is a clear sign that he is falsely teaching!! I have presented you with the passage above that warns against this!

      Just saying Weezie, not attacking you. I actually like that you brought that to light so I could explain about it correctly! Thank You

      The book of Enoch is mans word. The bible says this!!

      Romans 3:4
      God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged.

      • Revelation 20:4-5
        4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (specifically mentioning people being here during tribulation)
        5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

        Just the words of the bible. We can see clearly that believers are here during and through the tribulation. We also see that it says this is the first resurrection!!!!! Just the words of the bible. Again the book of Enoch is not Gods inspired word!! Just a warning!!

      • Weezie says:

        There is no book of Enoch…hello

        There are the seventy weeks of Daniel’s Prophecy and there remains one week which is the seven years.

        You did not explain correctly only because you do not know. I am sure you mean well, but you cannot teach what you do not know.

        • I teach only the words of the bible Weezie I do not teach what some author wrote about the bible. Enoch is not one of the inspired authors of the bible.

          I only present the words of the bible. I am not interested in knowing anything outside of what the bible says in regards to our faith in Jesus Christ and Gods word (the truth).

          However when people try to present things against Gods word (the bible) when I am around I will merely do what I have always done. Present clearly only what the bible says.

          There is a book of Enoch. Quote from Wikipedia “The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch[1]) is an ancient Jewish religious work, traditionally ascribed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but no other Christian group.”

          Again I merely present the words of the bible. Your right I have no interest in arguing about none bible related authors. Thank you for clarifying that.

        • And again yes Daniels 70 weeks mentions 7 weeks and 62 weeks. The 7 weeks are considered to be 7 years. But no where in the bible does it say that 7 years will be the 7 years of tribulation. Once again no where in the bible does it say a 7 year tribulation period.

          However the bible specifically mentions a 3 and one half year tribulation period. It mentions it in these words from different bible authors (times, time and half a time, 1260 days, and 42 months).

  40. I also might note that the bible says nothing of A 7 YEAR TRIBULATION. Not one word on a 7 YEAR TRIBULATION.

    The bible specifically describes the tribulation as 3 and one half years (as times, time and half a time, as 1260 days, and as 42 months) Nothing about 7 year tribulation.

    • The bible specifically mentions the rapture happening at the last trumpet in those verses you described and yes they are all referring to the same rapture. They happen at the last trumpet. Right before Gods wrath is poured out after tribulation of 3 and half years as seen in the scriptures I have showed you. We all see that it states that this is the first time. The first resurrection!! After the tribulation after they saw the souls who made it through tribulation who had not received the mark upon their hands or foreheads. The bible itself is clear again.

  41. Carol H says:

    They say the second coming for obama——- Ha Ha what do they know tell the TRUTH they mean THE SECOND DEATH EVERLASTING FIRE These are GOD’S WORDS from the book of REVELATIONS. NOW THAT IS TRUTH newsweek. PLEASE GET IT RIGHT We ALL DESERIVE THE TRUTH JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH THE LIFE HE WILL HAVE HIS GLORIUS SECOND COMING ON A WHITE HORSE TO RESCUE THE JEWISH PEOLPE HIS CHOOSEN PEOPLE and we will be APART OF IT GLORY to HIS NAME. A M E N

  42. Tony Eden says:

    The second coming? Gods answer to gay rights was fire from heaven, not leagleisation.

  43. Jody says:

    I believe Obama is laying the path for the anti-Christ; he is not the actual anti-Christ. America does not play a part in the End Times described in the Book of Revelations, probably because Obama is destroying her. Many Christians I know have different opinions. That’s ok. We love each other, and egos don’t play a part in our opinions. We read our Bibles and get what we can from it; one day we will know, when our Lord comes again. The only thing I know for sure is that on that day I’ll be with my son again, in Heaven. That’s all that matters to me now; the rest of my family is saved, and will be with me. We won’t care if it’s pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib. Who cares, Leonard? We should only care that we’ve shared our faith with as many people as we could, that we’ve taken as many to Heaven with us as possible. The Lord doesn’t care about our egos. He cares about our hearts. Just tell the Lost about Jesus. Forget the ridiculous details that don’t mean a thing.

  44. Obama is AN antichirst! If he isn’t the last antichrist that the bible specifically refers to. He is still an antichrist figure. He is muslim and he believes in a false god. Thus he is an antichrist figure. I did not make up the muslim part (he admits it in his own autobiography). The question most people are posing is he the last main antichrist or the beast the bible specifically refers to. That will remain to be seen. But there is no question that he is an antichrist. One of the many that will come and has come!!!!!

  45. LeeLee says:

    This is just plain crazy. I cannot believe what I am reading. I cannot believe that people think President Obama is the antichrist. Give me a break.

  46. For those who will try to argue that anyone who does not believe in Christ does not necessarily mean they are against Christ. Then I present to you the words of the bible!

    Matthew 12:30
    He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

    Right there in that one verse of Gods word he has explained what maybe and in between mean. (THEY MEAN AGAINST). You are either for or against there is no in between.

    So what that said, if your not for Christ!! Then what are you?

    Answer: ANTICHRIST no further explanation needed.

  47. There seems to be great confusion created by some misguided pastors and preachers of pre trib and the two witnesses. See once your misguided in pre tribe then your accounting of the bible and its facts become more and more flawed as time goes on. This is why false teaching is dangerous. Pre tribe believers will try to tell you that the two witnesses are Moses and Elijah!! Very interesting, but here is what the bible clearly says.

    On a side note many of these people have no idea how to speak or read Hebrew which is instrumental if your going to teach the bible.

    Facts on the two witnesses!

  48. Gail Webster says:

    THEIR ELECT IS PEOPLE THAT GET SAVED THROUGH THE LAST 3 AND A HALF YEARS. THE GREAT TRIBULATION. THE SIX SEAL, REVELATION CH 6- (THE TRUMPET) WE WHO ARE LIVING WILL BE GATHERED UP IN THE RAPTURE. THEN THE ANTI- CHRIST COMES. AND RULES THE LASTED THREE AND A HALF YEARS. THEIR ARE PEOPLE OUT THEIR THAT PRE-TRIB- AND THEIR PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE YOU GO THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATIONS. BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE THEM FALSE TEACHERS. IT WILL THE FRUIT-FRUITS THAT GO UP THE RAPTURE, WE SEE TO -DAY A LOT OF PEOPLE FALLING AWAY. AND THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE, JUST LIKE NOAH”S TIME. ITS TIME TO MAKE PEACE WITH FATHER GOD, JESUS AND REPENT AND LIVE HOLY LIVES NOT AS THE WORLD LIVES.. LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS SAYS IN THE BIBLE, BOOK OF MATTHEW- SHALOM:)

  49. Debra says:

    Hi New York! So glad you showed up to set things right by the bible again. I love how the bible speaks for it’s self and needs no further explanation by false phophets or teachers! I too was raised by the baptist church and pentecostal churhes to believe in the pre – trib, but when I truly got saved God revealed the scriptures to me and the pre= trib did not fit what the bible was truly saying! Thanks again for fighting the good fight of faith in the bible alone!!!! God is not a God of confusion and doesn’t want his children to be deceived and unprepared to face persecution! We in America have never had to face death for our faith in Christ! It will be a real test of our faith and loyalty to Christ Jesus. I hope we will be ready like the bible tells us! They loved not their lives unto death! Please Christians who are still confused! Listen to New york and those who are trying to prepare you for what is ahead very soon! Don’t get caught without oil in your lamps! God Bless and keep us all!

    • Thanks Debra, God Bless You!!

    • Grace2013 says:

      I went through the same thing Debra! I was a member of the local church in my small town and they taught the pre trib rapture. It did not ring true to me. I prayed tor clarity and studied my Bible…then found another church. Last weeks sermon was staying strong in faith as we are going into some very trying times as Christians. I thank you also NY. God Bless you:)

  50. Gail Webster says:

    THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS JEWS AND GENTILES WILL BE SAVED. AND IF YOU DO NOT TAKE THE MARK CH 13- THAT IS WHEN THEY WILL BE KILL. AND BEHEAD CUT OFF.( THAT IS CALLED THE ELECT THAT CAME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION. THEN AFTER THAT JESUS COME”S BACK THE SECOND TIME WITH HIS SAINTS ON WHITE HORSES AND THAT IS WHEN JESUS PUTS HIS FOOT ON MOUNT OF OLIVES. SHALOM:)

  51. Gods inspired word calls them false teachers but you believe and call them what you like. I just proved to you why pre trib believe is dangerous. It is false teaching!

    The bible says that those that do not gather with me scatter abroad. So if you are not gathering people to the correct teachings of the word of God what are you doing? Scattering abroad! That is clear. Peter himself warns of false teaching that is clear. Peter also inspired directly from God to write those words says ignorant and unstable people will distort straight to destruction. I have also showed you through the bible why it is dangerous to believe pre trib even when clearly the bible says it is not true and Paul in Thessalonians warns against it. Again Paul physically wrote it but I was given to him to write directly from God. Gods word the Bible.

    Peter considered to be the strongest disciple DENIED CHRIST 3 TIMES. You will not have that opportunity. If you submit to the world or the antichrist you will perish. The bible is also clear on that. If what the bible says is not enough to scare you to seek and find the truth then your in DANGER!

    Matthew 24:37
    But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Just a few people out of the whole population of the world were saved on that ark. If you compare percentages of the general population of the world at that time and you put those same percentages to today’s time and population. I WOULD BE SCARED and seek truth diligently while praying. What I have just said should put this next verse in a much better perspective for you.

    Matthew 7:13
    Enter in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be who go in there:

    Proverbs 9:10
    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

    But if your ok with people teaching the elect in the bible are the Jews when no where in the bible it says the elect are the Jews. If your ok with people teaching that we will not be here for the antichrist and tribulation when clearly the bible says we will. If your ok with people teaching people that the witnesses are Moses and Elijah when the bible clearly tells us who the two witnesses are. Then what else are you ok with that is not in the bible? Also when you believe these wrong things you teach others wrong things and you seriously corrupt their faith and belief system and set them up for submission and destruction. These are very serious things to be doing to someone else’s soul!!! The bible specifically warns against this for these very reasons.

    So when you stand before your creator and he asks you why did you tell my children what my word has not said?

    I sent you people, I put people in front of you to show you the truth yet you continued on your way and lead innocent ones astray to be consumed by evil for when their belief that you taught did not stand up they became lost. Why did you do this? It was clear to you that you were responsible for not only your soul but theirs as well when you began teaching incorrectly.

    So I ask you why did you cause countless of my innocent ones to perish when time and time again I presented you with the truth and gave you clear warnings. Why?

    Just something to think about. The bible is clear, but first you must humble yourself and seek truth by praying for it. Without being humble and trying to circle around it and saying O don’t worry it matters not what you believe we all believe just the important parts that is what is important. That is going against Gods word cause no where in Gods word does it say just believe the parts of his word that you like and the heck with the rest. Up to you but I have explained it as clearly as I can. I hope that you and others understand the seriousness of the matter. We are to gather with him not scatter abroad. If your not sure and you don’t know, then be humble, seek forgiveness continually and pray for the spirit. I promise you it will be clear when you have done so. Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Amen!

  52. Gail Webster says:

    PERSECUTION IS ON THE CHRISTIANS NOW ALL AROUND THE WORLD, IN SO MANY WAYS. SHALOM;

  53. My point exactly Gail. Persecution of the witnesses has begun already.

    • Jamie says:

      NEW YORK, you espouse a lot of biblical knowledge. But you are extremely WRONG if you say the Jews are not elect. Look a Romans 11:28 before you write off the Jews.

      I would hate to see how you reconcile Romans 11 with you words in post 100.

      “But if your ok with people teaching the elect in the bible are the Jews when no where in the bible it says the elect are the Jews.”

      Romans 11:28 says:

      “As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.”

      Sorry to point out this OBVIOUS error but I see quite a few theological errors in your posts.

      • THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION JAMIE IS IN ROMANS 11:7

        “The elect is talking about Israel, not Christians.” according to pre tribulation believers.

        Romans 11:7
        What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded”

        How can “the election” or “the elect” be Israel in light of this verse? The term “elect” is used in the New Testament to denote ONLY those who are saved, whether they be Jew or Gentile.

        Keep reading your bible Jamie!!!!! I like the fact that you are actually trying to at least see what is true.

      • Guess your not seeing the errors correctly then and you should continue to read and study your bible.

      • Again no where in the bible is the term elect to denote just the jews!!!!!!!!

  54. Jamie says:

    ARIZONA, why do you think LYNDA needs to get closer to the Lord? What prophecy to the Church in 2008 makes you think that? What if O is the Antichrist? Big deal. You should take your own advice if you are afraid of the Antichrist. The Antichrist has no effect on God’s elect, of which, LYNDA is. God has this thing all under control. Thanks for your concern but be careful HOW you say things.

  55. Steve S says:

    Admittedly this is not a good sitution. He is destroying America.

  56. Grace2013 says:

    Anyone watch Irvin Baxter..”End of the age” last night? Great show.

  57. Grace2013 says:

    It was focused on prophecy as Israel being the time clock and how Ariel Sharon plays into it. Interesting. It was part one of a three part series.

  58. Nice I have yet to make that post on my blog. I said that a few weeks ago on here some where. We should be watching Ariel Sharon’s health. That is awesome Grace.

  59. I get quite happy when people attack me. It allows me to present Gods word.

    Matthew 5:13
    You are the salt of the earth: but if the salt has lost its savor, how shall it be salted? it is thereafter good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

    Interesting choice of words the God uses there!
    Salt has many purposes:

    Salt preserves or is used as a preservative

    So if I am not like salt I am not being a preserving force in my community.

    Salt is also an irritant!

    So if no one is irritated at me I am not being a good Christian.

    Interesting how the bible speaks.

    So if we as the salt of the earth, if we lose our savor, we are to be cast out.

    With that I will continue to preserve and irritate. Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Amen.

  60. What does the bible say to do?

    If my people which are called by my name will vote republican, join the militia, and store up survival foods!!

    THAT IS NOT WHAT IT SAYS AT ALL

    2 Chronicles 7:14
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

  61. Gail Webster says:

    frist Thessalonians ch1v10v12v19. ch3v12v13. ch4v13v14v15v16v17v18. ch 5v1v2v3v4v5v6v9v23. second Thessalonians ch1v4v5v6v7v8v9v10. ch 2v1v2v3v4v5v6v7v8v9v10v11v12. see you all up at the Rapture. before the anti-Christ comes. SHALOM

  62. I believe in Jesus and I am all for Jesus but nothing of what he says means anything to me and I will continue to teach people incorrectly regardless of what Jesus has said. For example:

    In Matthew 24, Jesus’ disciples ask Him what will be the sign of His return

    “When you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place

    “then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be”

    Jesus also tells us that we will see him coming in the clouds with great power and glory. Its absolutely amazing how Jesus tells you exactly what you will see and what will happen.

    Yet people have created there own story about some mysterious mystery is going to take place and we are all going to disappear before all this takes place. These are the very same people who are not even close to being ready!

    Matthew 24:29-31
    29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (JESUS’S WORDS SAYING WE WILL BE HERE THROUGH THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect (THE RAPTURE) from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    Amazing how Jesus himself speaks clearly yet they will continue to corrupt not only their mind but others as well, straight to their own destruction.

    I AM LISTENING TO JESUS ARE YOU?

  63. Gail Webster says:

    MATTHEW CH 5V10. DEUTERONOMY CH7V7,8. Isaiah ch42v1,45;4, 65;9,22; John ch5;22; Acts ch 17;31; Revelation ch20;12-15. the great persecution and slaughter may soon hit America and Canada. It was predicted by our Messiah in Matthew ch 5;10-12 and John ch15;18-20.Galatians ch6;12. Revelation ch 6;9 and 20;4.Haters of God”s chosen people-Deuteronomy ch 7;7,8.Israel is God”s elect and all Jew haters will stand before the Christian God, Christ, on Judgment day- Isaiah ch 41v1, ch 45v4, 65;9, 22; John ch5v22; Acts 17;31;Revelation ch20;12-15. Shalom. LUKE CH 21V28. JAMES CH1V2V3V4V5V6V7V8.

  64. Jesus has told you the signs to look for, what you will see, what will happen so that you may be prepared.

    He did not speak idle words. He is not going to tell you and warn you of things to come and what will happen and what you will see knowing that you won’t be here to see them. That would be idle words.

    You pre trib people are seriously distorting Jesus’s words. So your rejecting Christ. WAKE UP!! Not only that you will stick to your belief while you and billy Graham and mr Hagee and Joe Osteen drag you to destruction. Suit yourself.

    Again I have read and understand clearly what JESUS has said and it is clear what we are to look for, what will happen and what we will see before the rapture.

    Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! Amen!!

  65. Pandora says:

    Watch and pray always. Do not be caught sleeping like the 10 foolish virgins!! Again I say watch and pray. Get your acts together Christians. It is later than you think!!!!

  66. LETS START A LIST!!!!!!

    Pre Trib (Pre-tribulation believers)
    TRACY
    GAIL
    JODY
    WEEZIE
    LEONARD
    RANDY

    Post Trib (Post Tribulation Believers)
    Grace
    Debra
    New York

    Have I missed anyone? Raise your hand for pre trib or post trib. Speak up please!!!

    • Leonard says:

      @”John3:16 / New York”

      (Rev 3:10)“Because you (CHRISTIANS) have kept My command to persevere, I also will KEEP YOU {the RAPTURE} from the hour of trial (the TRIBULATION) which shall come upon the whole world, to TEST those who DWELL ON THE EARTH.” (Unbelievers Only!)

      If you think Jesus is not coming for YOU before the Tribulation…then you are probably right!

      Over…and…OUT!

      • Your conclusions are flawed!

        For one when the bible says the the hour of trial which shall come upon THE WHOLE WORLD, to test those who dwell on earth.

        You have taken the clear wording which means exactly what it says THE WHOLE WORLD

        and yet somehow that just means unbelievers. Great twist, heck of a twist. Clearly though not what it says.

        If you knew the audience was the first century church. Then the context is very easy to understand. Rather than try to figure out why your theology does not match up. You would rather fight to destruction for false doctrine. If you only spent half the amount of time searching for truth as you did fighting against it think of what we could all accomplish together.

        I would read the bible if I were you and pray for an understanding from Jesus. You might also want to listen to Jesus’s actual words in Matthew 24. I would do this soon rather then risk harming other peoples souls through false doctrine. But that is up to you. Again it is hard to be humble and seek truth, but we all must do it and regularly.

        Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! Amen!! I believe your words Jesus and I pray that others will too. Thank You

  67. Interesting how people quote scriptures to back up their false doctrine. If you read Revelation 3 you will see the audience is the church of Philadelphia!!

    Revelation 3:10 is often quoted to support the pre trib rapture doctrine or an escape from the Great Tribulation for all believers. However like all other verses, it has a specific audience and making the verse a proof text for the rapture ignores this audience.

    Ignoring the audience of any verse is a very common way to reach wrong conclusions and produce erroneous doctrines. In fact, it leads to some of the most damaging doctrines in Christianity that have believers in bondage.

    Learning how to recognize audience and other aspects of the context of a passage will help you avoid being deceived by misuse of the Bible.

    The audience in this case is the Philadelphia church of the First Century or the prophetic church era that already ended before our current Laodicean era began.
    Our backslidden church era is the one awaiting the Great Tribulation who must go through it. In other words, the Bible teaches that the only way to to be kept from the time of trouble coming over the face of the earth is to reach the end of YOUR TIME before the end times.

  68. I love discussing bible doctrine and its proper context. :)

  69. However when you refuse to listen to JESUS’S words himself that is dangerous.

    Jesus said these exact words and to ignore them would mean there are idle words in the bible.

    Here is Jesus’s exact words:

    “When you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place”

    “then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be”

    “Immediately after the tribulation of those days”

    Amazing how he describes the rapture (gathering together to him) right after he says those things above. As clear as can be but yet you are so eager to reject the actual words of Jesus Christ! What a horrible thing to have to answer for and to lead others down that path. Well there is no answer for that.

    I’M LISTENING TO JESUS ARE YOU?

  70. Back to that list!!!!!!!!!!!

    LETS START A LIST!!!!!!
    Trib (Pre-tribulation believers)
    TRACY
    GAIL
    JODY
    WEEZIE
    LEONARD
    RANDY

    Post Trib (Post Tribulation Believers)
    Grace
    Debra
    New York

    This list is starting to look very similar to something, I wonder what it could be hmmmmmmm

    O! That is right. Here is where:

    Matthew 7:13
    “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

    That’s what that list reminds me of.

  71. Isaiah 54:17
    No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

    Would you like to continue against a servant of the Lord?

  72. Grace2013 says:

    You know I do two things everyday in prayer. I give thanks to Him for everything in my life.even for my trials. Secondly I humbly ask for wisdom to hear and read His word correctly. I realize that I am full of sin and my wisdom may be flawed. Therefore I need His holy intervention. I have been in a church that taught and taught pre trib and had a feeling of anxiety that I could not even explain..I left. I see Hagee and Joel Olsteen on Tv and get that same feeling of dread. I am grateful for God softly teaching and guiding me. I asked for guidance and He delivered me.

  73. Grace2013 says:

    Forgive my spelling and sentence structure. This new touch screen is a learning curve for me :)

    • Its ok Grace spelling and typing is not important! Language and writing were created for communication.

      Our tax dollars have gone towards a bunch of grammar correcting liberals who sole purpose is to run around and tell you how you should communicate. We all know how well they communicate.

      Grammar and spelling I view as idiosyncrasies for the individual who decides to make it an issue. Their problem not mine. What is important is that its understood what you meant. That is all that is necessary.

      The amazing thing is Gods inspired word has failed their grammar and spelling tests to this day. Goes to show what they know.

      I understand what you said perfectly. Yes we all need his holy intervention on a daily if not hourly basis. God Bless You Grace!

  74. Grace2013 says:

    I also wanted to add that when I left my small town church the pastor and his wife spread the word that I was “a wolf amoungst them” That broke my heart but not my will to seek the truth.

  75. No one likes to be told their wrong Grace especially when it comes to their belief system or congregation count.

    When Jesus was here who did he correct? Who did he say was wrong? Who did he get angry at ? The teachers, preachers and law makers!!!

    Yet he showed not even one bit of anger towards non believers. He even healed performed miracles for non believers. Probably cause he knew that it was not their fault for not believing. It was the teachers, preachers and law makers fault.

    Walking with Christ will never be easy, he told us that many times. He also told us he would be there with us every step of the way.

    Matthew 28:20
    Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

  76. Grace2013 says:

    Very true New York. I am sure being called a wolf is small compared to what Christians will go through in the tribulation. That is why I pray for those who think they wont be here…they will be unprepared.

    • Old Observer says:

      You can add me to your pretrib list—

    • Old Observer says:

      Grace–whatever we believe as to the timing of the rapture, the main thing is that we be right with Jesus—I believe we will go through some bad times–we can see them coming even now, as our rights as Christians diminish and those of, for example, Muslims–increase—but I do believe time is short. I do believe in a pre-trib rapture–but I also believe that whenever it is, He will guide me through and protect. The more I study, the more convinced i am it’e pre-trib!

      • Really I guess you haven’t read what Jesus said in Matthew 24. Jesus’s words himself. I guess you like to say you believe in Jesus but nothing of what he says is true!

        Again READ your bible cause your not gathering with and if your not gathering with your scattering abroad.

        Matthew 12:30
        He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

        The bible is clear and Jesus himself is clear!!!

        Jesus Mentions the rapture and he mentions it after in fact he says :

        “When you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place”

        Meaning you will see the anitchrist preform this!!!

        “then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be”

        Meaning you will be here for great tribulation!!!

        “Immediately after the tribulation of those days”

        Meaning right after the tribulation you will be pulled out !!

        If you have read the bible and understand that everyone before us has lived through tribulation.

        Noah lived through tribulation was pulled out on ark!
        Moses lived through tribulation pulled out with red sea
        The list goes on and on and on. If you look accept pre trib you are going against the whole bible in fact. But if you look at post trib it all falls into place just as Jesus said himself.

        Again your either for or against there is no in between that is clear. So your either gathering with or your scattering abroad. I will pray for you!!

        Matthew 12:30
        He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

  77. Its ok, the important thing is not to become to attached to anything on this earth. Money, television, shoes (examples, there are many more things of course) ect. ect.

    Everything is about Christ! As long as we remain true to him, we are protected.

    You are more precious then gold!

    1 Peter 1:7
    That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

    • Tracy says:

      New York, you finally got it right. “Everything is about our Lord, as long as we remain true to Him, we are protected.”
      It doesn’t matter when, where or what a true Christian goes through, He is with us until the end.
      Praise God you opened your eyes.

      • Tracy how are you remaining true to the Lord by teaching people things that Jesus did not say. I have been awake TRACY. Its you and others I am trying to help.

        • What you people are saying by teaching pre trib is I believe in Jesus but I don’t believe what he said and not only that I am going to teach others what he has not said as well.

          Matthew 12:30
          He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

          If your not gathering with him you are what? That is right!!! SCATTERING ABROAD.

          • Leonard says:

            I can see the teeth of a vicious wolf under that ill-fitting sheep outfit, “New York.”

            Sleep tight…;)

          • Seeing as how your the only one to make a vicious statement towards someone I guess your correct you have a vicious nature and vicious thoughts in your mind. You don’t like to be proven your wrong and refuse to go and look and see what was actually said in the bible. I have told you and tried to help you is all. Using the bibles exact words.

            I sleep very well thank you.

          • Leonard says:

            You’re the only one that’s been spamming this site with vicious rants, “new york.”

            53 out of a total of 146 posts are YOURS…That’s over ONE – THIRD of the total posts on this article, and the rest is split between more than THIRTY other people…and on a PRE-TRIBULATION Rapture website!

            I don’t think the Lord appreciates what you’re doing here…repent.

          • Not spam at all. Every one of my reply’s is response just as this one is now. Your the one attacking people calling them wolves. Your the one who is upset cause your theology does not match up with the words of the bible. Just the facts.

          • Tracy says:

            New York, I’m very sorry, but I dectect so much anger in your writing.
            God Bless

          • There is no anger in my writing TRACY. The parts which you are perceiving to be my anger are actually the words of the bible. They are the warnings the bible specifically gave. Again only the words of the bible is all I have used. Anything else is an explanation of those words. I am not angry. Again as I have said before. I am here to help people through the word of God (The bible). I am the won being attacked and cursed for doing so. Just like Jesus was. Its amazing.

          • Grace2013 says:

            Not true Tracy. I am sure his posts are from a heart for Christ. No need to call a brother in Christ a wolf.

          • So now your move is to have me removed !! Isn’t that what they did to Jesus?

      • The way you are acting. If God him self came and told you pre trib wasn’t true you wouldn’t believe him and so your only digging a bigger whole for yourself. READ your bible and don’t just follow along with what others are saying or trying to teach you. READ it !!!!!!

        John 8:32
        And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

  78. Old Observer says:

    Satan is alive and well on planet earth, and his headquarters is in Washington, DC—the fraud-in-chief is not the antichrist, but one of many puppets whose purpose is to prepare the way –time is short, folks—-wake up!

  79. Dave T says:

    If Obama is the second coming, then I’m the Pope. I would rather say he is the false prophet. He fits that category better.

  80. Matthew 23:15
    “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

    The “rapture” doctrine is demonic in origin, its purpose being to promote complacency among the believers.

    There is no question that the doctrine promotes complacency. If you don’t believe this try warning the believers to prepare themselves to stand in the evil day.

    They will tell you in effect that there will be no evil day for them because they “won’t be here.” They may also become angry.

    I notice that when the doctrine of the “rapture” is challenged its advocates often become threatened and angry instead of reasonable, causing me to believe some kind of spirit is involved.

  81. Debra says:

    New York, Fear not the Lord Jesus is with you! Blessed are you when men come against you, and say terribly things about you for Christ’s sake! Stand firm in your faith and the word of God for many of us agree with you and the bible!!!! Those who oppose you will either humbly come to the truth or they will perish in their ignorance and deception. The future will prove whose right or wrong!! Those who think you are wrong about what you say now about when the rapture will occur, soon will come to know you were right on!!! I pray it will not be too late for them to prepare their hearts for what will take place against Christians in the not too distant future! God be with you always!!!!!! And with all of us who believe in the only begotten Son of God Jesus Christ!!!!!

  82. Debra says:

    New York, There’s always an evil spirit behind false doctrine! Complacency and Anger plus Unbelief, also follow when people find out they have been lied to all these centuries! Only the Lord can open eyes to see. We can only point the way and compel people to search for themselves the scriptures you have been quoting. People who truly love the truth and want to know will not take tradition only teachings, but will pray and search the bible for the answers. That’s what happened to me and now I can see the truth about the tribulation and rapture. there is peace even when you may die for your faith knowing that God knew how it would take place etc… Even in death he says where is it’s sting! We will overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the words of our testimony!!! Halleluiah! Amen!!!!

    • Thank you Debra!!

      <b<2 Timothy 4:3-4
      3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
      4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

      How many televised preachers teach the pre-trib rapture? Almost everyone of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      (John MacArthur, Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, John Hagee)

      Just how many false teachers are there?
      The deception is beyond comprehension!!!
      YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE IT!!!!!! TURN OFF THE TV AND START READING YOUR BIBLES. IF YOU WERE SAVED BY ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, GUESS WHAT. YOU HAVEN’T BEEN SAVED AND DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!
      (Joel Osteen, Billy Graham, Paul Crouch (his network TBN -Trinity Broadcasting Network), Pat Robertson, Rick Warren, Chuck Smith, Benny Hinn, Oral Roberts, Gerald “Jerry” Falwell (a.k.a. Larry Falldown), James Swaggart, Kenny Copeland and Ken Hagin (who picked up the heretical Mormon doctrine that all men can become a god), John F. Walvoord, Jack Impe, Tim LaHaye).

      Female teachers for the scriptures makes it explicitly clear they are not to teach men!!!

      1 Corinthians 14:34-35
      34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should as their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

      1 Timothy 2:9-15
      9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
      10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
      13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

      Women television preachers!
      Joyce Meyer, Gloria Copeland, Marilyn Hickey, Betty Robinson, Beverly LaHaye, Arlene & C. Courtney Henderson, Karen Wheaton, Christie Harvey, Kathryn Khulman.

      The corruption of Gods word is all around us.

      Titus 3:10-11
      10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

    • Grace2013 says:

      God Bless you Debra…well said.

  83. This is what will happen to those above teachers and preachers!!!! Per the bible (the word of God).

    Matthew 7:22-23
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

  84. Grace2013 says:

    Trust in your spirit when you see and hear these preachers. I remember long ago watching ONE episode of Marcus and Joni Lamb and getting the creeps. Just a very bad feeling and turning of the TV. Reading the Bible and praying is the only way to find the truth. The saddest part is seeing the massive audience these false teachers attract.

  85. Its very troubling to me. I see these people leading others down very dangerous paths.

    What people need to understand is they don’t need any of these people to be saved. The need Jesus and that is all. Then they need to pray and seek truth in the bible.

    This is why I tell people not to cling to any denomination. Do not become attached to anything you can not let go off instantly for the Lord.

    I am not saying do not go to church. I am saying you should be reading your bible and seeing if what your church heads are teaching is true. If it is not question them about directly with a bible in hand.

    We all must start doing this. Everything around us is corrupted, TV, Movies, Music, Church pastors, preachers, it is deep. Many pastors and preachers don’t even realize what they are doing and think nothing is wrong.

    Grab your bible and show em and put them to the test!! If you just read your bible and pray humbly to the Lord you should have no fear contesting your preacher on the side of course not in public if at all possible.

    You should not be afraid of what you do not understand in the bible. If you pray to the Lord he will definitely lead you to the truth. All you have to do is ask.

  86. Tracy says:

    Yes, you all are right in that a true Christian has peace that passes all understanding. I ,too, have that peace and looking forward to spending eternity with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
    God Bless

  87. Josef says:

    The first coming was just a whimper of a FART, the second coming is truly the biggest FART of all. Only in America can stupid things happens.

  88. TiaDee says:

    The “Rapture” doctrine is a false doctrine concocted by the freemasons. Please do not be deceived by this lie. The scriptures are true. Please ask God to give you clear discernment when seeking knowledge of such information. New York, please keep teaching the truth! Peace & Blessings

    http://www.watchmanreport.com/the_watchman/rapture/The_Rapture-01.cfm

  89. TiaDee says:

    Thousands of Christians are currently being persecuted for Jesus’ name sake. The idea of telling Christians that they will escape persecution from man (government) is delusional. Please support The Voice of the Martyrs ministry. Christians in China, Nigeria, Pakistan, and elsewhere are being beaten, tortured, burned, starved, and executed for their faith. Jesus will only return once after the Last Trumpet sounds. He will NOT come in secret! The bible declares that “every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess…” And that everyone will see him coming in the clouds. The pre-trib false doctrine leads Christians to believe that some will not have to be Martyred when in fact there are thousands experiencing it today! Don’t be blind saints. Be ready!

  90. I am faithfully warning them that pre tribulation rapture is a deception and that they must prepare to meet great trials and tribulations. If they do not heed my warnings I do not know what else I can do to help them.

    I am seeing things so alarmingly clearly its frightening to me. It is not frightening to me because of what I see as far as what is to come. It is frightening to me for what is to come for those who can not see!!!!!

    I do not know what else to say or do. I am telling them. Making it clear to them. Yet they lash out at me and do not heed the words of God (the bible). They do not even think to pick up their bibles and see if what I am saying is true. They rather try to prove me wrong rather then see if what I am actually saying is true.

    Matthew 24:37
    But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    In the days of Noah he warned them, told them what was to come, he warned them of everything. They did not prepare. They did not take heed. They laughed at him and scoffed at him and his ark.

    I will keep warning them, I will not stop till it is done!!

    Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! Amen!!

  91. Debra says:

    Fear not New York The Lord Jesus is with you! Only Jesus can open the blind to see the truth! Don’t fret about those who come against you because they came against Christ Jesus too! Only the Spirit of God can show them the truth of the bible that you quoted. Rest in the fact that you have tried to show them what the bible teaches and let the Lord convict and reveal the truth to those who are truly seeking for the truth. Those who think they know the truth but are only repeating what they have been taught by tradition in the church will have to learn the hard way when they face death in the face. Saloam my Brother always!

  92. Tracy says:

    To make a very important point, wheather we believe in pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib, doesn’t really make a difference because we who are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ are going to be with Him one day. Therefore, why should we worry, God will see us through whatever comes before us.
    God Bless All of You

  93. It absolutely does TRACY for to believe in any other trib then post it doesn’t match up with the bible and your causing people to believe that they will not have to suffer.

    AGAIN YOU CAN NOT SAY I BELIEVE IN JESUS AND THEN REFUSE TO BELIEVE WHAT HE SAID AND TAUGHT AND THE THE ACTUAL WORDS OF THE BIBLE

    You can’t say I believe in Jesus and then go and teach people something completely opposite of what he said!!!!!!!!!!!! You do not have the holy spirit and there is only one way to heaven not 2.

    Matthew 24:38
    He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  94. Tracy says:

    Totally, but you don’t. Don’t dwell on tomorrow, or the next day, or the next, because we live in the present.
    Whatever tomorrow brings, God is with me.
    I rest my case!
    God Bless

  95. You do not have Christ Tracy you can not have him and then go around and teach against him. READ YOUR BIBLE !!

    Matthew 24:38
    He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.

    Matthew 7: 21-26
    I NEVER KNEW YOU

    21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

    Build on the Rock

    24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

    26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

    Luke 9:26
    26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels.

    Luke 21:33
    33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

    AGAIN JESUS SAID THESE WORDS ABOUT THE RAPTURE WHICH HAPPENS AFTER TRIBULATION!!!

    Matthew 24:9
    9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.

    Matthew 24:15
    The Great Tribulation
    When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

    Matthew 24:29
    The Coming of the Son of Man

    29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

    I WILL FINISH WITH A SIMPLE CLEAR EXPLANATION USING JUST THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE

    Romans 10:9
    9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heartthat God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

    John 14: 23-24

    23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

    As you can see I do understand and you don’t I would rethink what you teach and preach if I were you.

  96. We have been told in the Scriptures about the last days, and that many will follow false teachers and false prophets. This truth is all around us – how many people follow after ‘prophets’ who say things that the Lord did not teach? How many add to what the Lord said? How many take away from what He clearly taught? Someone doesn’t have to call themselves a ‘prophet’ to teach falsely. There are two primary ways you will know these people:

    By their fruits – what are the fruits of the Lord and the Spirit and the truth VS what are they telling you? The more you investigate a matter by the council of the Lord, the more discerning you will be of the truth that exists.

    By the acceptance of the complete teachings of Jesus as being authoritative.

  97. Romans 10:9
    9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

    John 14: 23-24
    23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

    As you can see I do understand and you don’t I would rethink what you teach and preach if I were you.

  98. beyondme says:

    Wow, did you all pluck appart Mr Bush like this in his days? cause it sounds to me like the anti-christ qulifies as any man in power. But since Obama is in the hot seat he gets the “almighty WRATH” of the quick to judge. Never forget this only GOD can jugde so put away your holy sticks.

  99. glenn dupuis says:

    This is really no great surprise, nor is it unusual as this organization as well as so many other liberal left wing groups refuse the true God and will bow themselves down to anyone or anything.To them they see this as a second coming but they are totally ignorant or what it means and especially what it will bring about when the real Second Coming takes place.The Bible clearly defines these types as “willingly ignorant.(II Peter 3)

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