Jordanian Minister Accuses Israel Of Planning To Erect The Third Temple
The prophet Daniel said that the Third Temple would be the Antichrist’s
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” Daniel 9:27
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Jordanian minister accused Israel on Wednesday of planning to partition the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in Jerusalem and the Temple Mount plaza surrounding it in order to erect the third Temple.
Only one thing stands between the Jews and the coming Third Temple. And its not the Dome of the Rock.
Islamic Endowments Minister Abdul Salam Abadi told a visiting clerical delegation from Australia that he received instructions from the “Hashemite leadership” to safeguard the Arab and Islamic identity of Jerusalem, Jordanian media reported.
Abadi said Israel was planning to divide the mosque from its courtyards with a 144-dunam structure.
Jordan, which extended its sovereignty to East Jerusalem and the West Bank in 1950, continues to administer the Islamic holy sites on the Temple Mount. Abadi told the Australian delegation that his ministry employs 600 civil servants in Jerusalem and oversees 40 Jerusalem schools.
According to the independent Jordanian daily Al-Ghad, Abadi stressed the need to support the residents of Jerusalem “in their steadfastness in the face of the repeated Israeli attacks on the holy Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem.”
He did not expand on what he meant.
Jordan and Israel signed a peace agreement in 1994.
Jews are banned from praying on the Temple Mount by the Jordanian department of endowments, known as the Waqf, which administers the plaza surrounding the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock.
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about 5 months ago
Of course they want to build a Temple on the Temple Mount and they will build eventually but not until the Antichrist is revealed. I am praying the Rapture removes us before that time.
about 5 months ago
The signing of the peace treaty will be the beginning of a time that is called the tribulation. The Bible says that it will be a time of horrible things happening on earth such as never been seen before. Please accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. It’s a very easy thing to do. Just ask him to forgive you of your sins and then make an honest attempt to live a life that’s satisfying to Him. It’s not all that hard to do. These are serious times that we are heading in to. Everyone has eternal life. It’s where you spend eternity that matters. Hell is for real man !! Heaven is not sitting on a cloud playin a harp either. Christians will be occupying heaven and earth for eternity. Jesus is for real man !! This is no joke !!
You can almost hear His footsteps !!
about 5 months ago
What are you trying to preach ? Work Salvation.
No where in the Bible does it teach that you have to live a certain way to get to heaven,
It teaches that the only sin that will sin you to hell, is the sin of unbelief.
You ask God to forgive you of your sins, Then you call on Him to save you, I strive daily to be more like Jesus, not because that is what I have to do to get to heaven, but because I love Him, which is what the Bible teaches.
about 5 months ago
David, are you really reading your Bible?? I am sorry but, you are wrong! You are right in saying, unbelief is a sin, but if you believe in something with all your heart regardless what it is, that means you are interested, right? Well if you are interested in that thing or person, you will search out what it is and what it takes to actually understand it, right? Well, I get the feeling you are either listening or maybe even taking counsel from either someone that doesn’t really follow Christ or maybe even a Church that is into everything is OK! Well, here is what I would say, and I hope you share it with whoever is your counsel! Matthew 7:12-14
Christ came to teach us, not only what we are to know and believe, but what we are to do; not only toward God, but toward men; not only toward those of our party and persuasion, but toward men in general, all with whom we have to do. We must do that to our neighbour which we ourselves acknowledge to be fit and reasonable. We must, in our dealings with men, suppose ourselves in the same case and circumstances with those we have to do with, and act accordingly. There are but two ways right and wrong, good and evil; the way to heaven and the way to hell; in the one or other of these all are walking: there is no middle place hereafter, no middle way now. All the children of men are saints or sinners, godly or ungodly. See concerning the way of sin and sinners, that the gate is wide, and stands open. You may go in at this gate with all your lusts about you; it gives no check to appetites or passions. It is a broad way; there are many paths in it; there is choice of sinful ways. There is a large company in this way. But what profit is there in being willing to go to hell with others, because they will not go to heaven with us? The way to eternal life is narrow. We are not in heaven as soon as we are got through the strait gate. Self must be denied, the body kept under, and corruptions mortified. Daily temptations must be resisted; duties must be done. We must watch in all things, and walk with care; and we must go through much tribulation. And yet this way should invite us all; it leads to life: to present comfort in the favour of God, which is the life of the soul; to eternal bliss, the hope of which at the end of our way, should make all the difficulties of the road easy to us. This plain declaration of Christ has been disregarded by many who have taken pains to explain it away; but in all ages the real disciple of Christ has been looked on as a singular, unfashionable character; and all that have sided with the greater number, have gone on in the broad road to destruction. If we would serve God, we must be firm in our religion. Can we often hear of the strait gate and the narrow way, and how few there are that find it, without being in pain for ourselves, or considering whether we are entered on the narrow way, and what progress we are making in it? I will be praying for ya guy, wide is the gate to destruction!!
about 5 months ago
Right on Glybnd!
about 5 months ago
We WILL be raptures before the antichrist is revealed Dawn. Rest assured of that. Read 1 Thessalonians 2: 6thru8. HE is the Holy Spirit. God will not remove the Holy Spirit without removing the church with It.
about 5 months ago
Greg we will go through tribulation. Just as Moses lived in tribulation then red sea was parted and he was delivered (raptured) out. The same as Lot lived through tribulation and was delivered out of Sodom and Gomorrah. The same as Noah lived in great tribulation and was delivered (raptured) out in the ark. The bible says the rapture will happen at the last trumpet. That means we will live with the anti-christ here and we will see the abomination of desolation.
In fact there are verses telling us the signs of the times of tribulation. The tribulation of Noah’s time is one of those signs the bible speaks of as a sign of the times:
Matthew 24:37
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Specific reference from bible of rapture happening at the last trumpet:
1 Corinthians 15: 51-52
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
Revelation 10:7
7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”
In Thessalonians there is a verse that clearly explains we will not be raptured out till son of perdition (anti-christ) is revealed. The verse also tells us not to believe anyone who tells you the rapture will happen at any other time then what the verse says. It warns people to not be deceived of false doctrine. Here is that verse:
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
For a good clear picture watch this on the RAPTURE!
about 5 months ago
Gregg …absolutely………….
about 5 months ago
Guys,
you got it all wrong (like the whole eschatology stuff and rapture!). The Covenant in Daniel is not Antichrist’s covenant with the Jews, but Christ’s Covenant with the many (see Mark 10:45).
“He” in this verse is not “the prince” of the people from previous verse because that prince (Titus) is dead for almost 2000 years now. Also, the normal precedent of He is the Messiah, who with His death on the cross, after 3,5 years of ministry, stopped efficatious sacrifices in the Temple when the curtain tore in two!
about 5 months ago
Also, it is clear that HE will confirm (not start a new) Covenant! You cannot confirm something that was never started before. This is a technical term for a Covenant between God and His people!
about 5 months ago
Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, Understand that the full effectual, and manifestation of truth in all your knowledge, IS Yashua Messiah Emmanuel God with Us. For we are the many membered body of Christ, and He Is One with Us, the truth revealed to each of us from the Wisdom we sought and craved has now come to life. And will very soon All come to pass (anti) means instead of and check out revelation 21:22 there is no rapture, that is false doctrine and the antichrist will attempt to say how I’ve come to fly you away. Take heed and remember the antichrist comes before the true Christ example the Trumps are in order and the sixth trump comes before the 7th trump. And all those who desire to know the truth, shall See
about 5 months ago
Coleen is correct. No pre-tribulation rapture. Read ALL Scriptures in proper context. This is a time for serious preparation; that which makes our garments white, and ready for our soon coming King.
about 5 months ago
There is a rapture specifically mentioned in the bible and it happens at the last or 7th trumpet. Many people have to start reading their bibles and not what their churches are saying. When Jesus came to this earth he chastised not people, he specifically CHASTISED CHURCH LEADERS cause they were the cause for false doctrine. I am not a church leader. I have read different versions of the bible side by side and they say the same thing. I read the word for myself and when you do you will see who has mislead you. He chose poor, weak, and even some former criminals and tax collectors to walk with (his disciples). The first shall be last and the last shall be first!
Matthew 20:16
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
There is a rapture described by many different people in the bible. The bible verifies itself that is how you know what is truth. Where there are two witnesses that is truth. Many writers inspired by God wrote about same things at different times. That is the bible (word of God).
The rapture is mentioned many times by different people and it tells us when it will happen. Scroll up for my previous post to greg on when the rapture will happen and how and where it is mentioned.
about 5 months ago
The Third Temple will rise upon Mount Moriah in the aftermath of the Gog/Magog Battle of Ezekiel 38/39. The earthquake of Ezekiel 38:19,20 that will shake the Land of Israel will reduce the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque to rubble and dust. The Lord God will not share his glory with another, no longer will these pagan shrines be seen on the Temple Mount. The covenant which the AntiChrist confirms has little to do with Israel, it is a confirmation between many nations as a nuclear disarmament pact. Israel will be in a position of power as their enemies are laid waste by the hand of God, they will no require any third party (AntiChrist) to guarantee their security.
about 5 months ago
I have been washed in the blood of Jesus Christ, my garments are white through the Cross.
about 5 months ago
So coleen and erlene…are you saying the death on the cross was not good enough….I have to be persecuted in the great tribulation in order to be considered Christ bride?..I don’t think so…why would Christ allow his wife to be beaten and killed in order to be considered good enough..you can beat the saints all day long ,that make us any better….I believe Christ death on the cross was more than sufficient……pre-trib believer over here
about 5 months ago
You are an idiot provocateur-mocker. Is there a troll in them fingers. Wave off pin head and troll an islamic site. What depth of thought, avatar friendly goo you generate. I see you keeping up with current events by watching the davinci code. peace maker…what a misnomer for a moniker!!!
about 5 months ago
Agree or disagree. Use fact not insult. Back up your claims with relevant sources. Calling names and pointing fingers simply reveals your inability to make or be a part of intelligent conversation.
about 5 months ago
No, I am not saying that at all. His blood is all sufficient for salvation. After salvation, we are to be empowered by the
Holy Spirit to be able to “keep His commandments” which includes all 10, not 9. Almost all of the modern church think they keep them, but they have substituted the first day of the week for the 7th day Sabbath. (no, I am not SDA), I am Messianic.
Read Matthew 5:17-19 to begin. Yeshua (Jesus) said “not until Heaven and Earth pass away” Again, He said, “if you love me, you will keep my Commandments. That does not just mean to keep them in man’s way, but in God’s way.
Shalom
about 5 months ago
You are right and wrong Erlene,
Jesus is talking to the Jews….the Church hasn’t even come into existence when Christ was saying that. Jesus is talking to Israel….NOT THE CHURCH.
The church is a completly separate entity…a mystery. The church is of the Kingdom of God, the Jews are of the Kingdom of Heaven! They are not the same nor will their purposes be the same. The Church is under the law of Grace….Jesus is preparing His bride (the church) whom he will call out of the world and betroth during the time of Jacob’s trouble. Rev. 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. There are many, many more scriptures. Also, you have not the blessed hope….you need to study more. A good teaching to listen to is the NTEB blog talk radio archives from DEC. 16th. The Pre-Trib Rapture explained in full.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear WITH him in glory.
Notice it says “with” NOT “to”. And there are so many more scriptures….but you must remember there are scriptures pertaining to Israel and scriptures pertaining to the Church (Christs bride, his jewels, his hidden ones).
about 5 months ago
Ditto, Ps91.
about 5 months ago
Actually, Christ is talking to the Church, of which Apostles are representatives at that point. Also, most events spoken of on the Mountain of Olives already happened in AD66-70. It is silly to think that Jesus would tell apostles that the Temple will be crushed and Jerusalem destroyed, and think about some future Temple in 2000 years from then, and not about something that will happen during their life times.
about 5 months ago
@ erlene Are you saying the disciples were wrong in meeting on the first day of the week to commemorate Christ’s resurrection?
Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Mat 5:18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Mat 5:19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. The law was accomplished in Jesus’ death and resurrection. After his resurrection,the written law is no longer needed because Jesus is the embodiment of the whole law and since He is God and will live forever, the law will live in HIm. By celebrating Christ;s resurrection , they were keeping a day that is more important than the Sabbath because it was based on grace not works as the Sabbath was. As a Christian and follower of Jesus I enjoy grace not worry about the law and works to get me to heaven. Jesus paid my penalty for me so that the law has no hold on me.
about 5 months ago
You mean if I’m the groom I will let my future bride go through trials first to test her if she really deserves me? Is this how I should show my unconditional for love for her? Ladies, how would you feel if your future husband will require you to join and pass a boot camp or win a survivor-type reality show, etc., first before he proposes?
about 5 months ago
If a woman says she can cook its a good date, if a woman proves she can cook its a great date and cause for celebration cause you have found a woman to which the bible describes as:
Proverbs 31:10
Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
Based on this!! You tell me!!! Should you just assume she can cook or ask her first and then actually see if she can??????????????
about 5 months ago
No offense. So the trials during the tribulation will be like trying to pass a cooking course/lesson. Then in that case, I will let my future bride go through it then.
about 5 months ago
What your saying is that you do not understand why God would cause us to go through tribulations to get to him or his rewards? I am asking cause that was my understanding as to what you are saying. If in fact that is what you are saying than the answer is yes. The bible says we will go through tribulation to get his reward. Here is how we know this.
Adam and Eve had no pain, no trials, no tribulations when they resided in the garden of Eden following God’s one and only rule. However once that rule was broken you will have to experience pain and you will have to go through trials and tribulations and you will have to work for what you get.
From that point forward in the bible you find me a passage or parable where someone did not go through trials and tribulations to get God’s gifts or rewards. Moses did, Lot did, Job did, Noah did.
Let me make it more simple. Even to this day women who give birth go through great pain right up until that child is born.
Now on top of all that information I have laid out for you. The bible also states that we will go through great tribulation in the times of the end. But just before God pours out his WRATH which is separate and distinct from the tribulation he is talking about. Just before Gods WRATH we are raptured out. This is clear in just a few passages that directly refer to rapture never mind that he gives us the signs and warnings of things to watch for that will occur leading up to and during tribulation. After all that how is it that you see us not going through tribulation? This is written, these things must come to pass, he warned us, told us what to look for, told us to prepare (through the bible, his works when he was here, and our faith in him). We suffer tribulation just as all previous generations have done in the bible. We are pulled out before he pours his WRATH upon the unrighteous and wicked. Again this is clear all through the bible. There is no passage where people did not face tribulation before receiving a gift or reward.
about 5 months ago
Have it your way, I do not care to argue, but just go and
carefully re read your Scriptures. I don’t have time for this.
The Scriptures speak plainly for themselves. You have obviously been taught by teachers who do not understand the Bible. Just
remember, we will be responsible for our own studies, and will have no excuse.
about 5 months ago
I taught myself by specifically reading the bible and exactly what it says. HERE IS WHEN THE RAPTURE HAPPENS.
I will pray that whatever has grasped you to not humble yourself before God and his words that it releases you and causes you to know for yourself. You must READ the bible yourself and not believe what people say. Once you have read it you will see exactly what it says and you will be shocked to know who taught you incorrectly.
about 5 months ago
There is nothing in the bible that says anything about the Dome of the Rock having to be removed in order for the temple to be built I might add. I could be built right next to it.
about 5 months ago
For those of you who are listening to a church and not finding out for yourself I will tell you facts.
The pope has kissed the koran a doctrine of a false God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can look this up it is fact.
The pope has done many other things including praying to God in false churches in front of false Gods.
The pope has hailed satan for quite some time now. This is fact and I have clear documented (videos, documents, pictures and news agencies who have reported this stuff first hand and this is current up to date in recent past). Do not be like sheep lead to a slaughter. Find out for yourself. You should be more alert now then ever before!
about 5 months ago
It is true that God says we (Christians) are not destined for wrath… The rapture concept was not started until the 1830s in England by a vision, self-induced trance by a woman named Margaret McDonald.. The concept later became a footnote in the Scofield study bible… Then picked up by Moody, Graham, then Tim Lahay that made it really popular via his books….
PreTribbers? Where in the Bible does it mentions Jesus’ third coming? There is only a second coming at the end of the Trib when he THEN returns for his bride!
Time to get ready for the long haul… It wont be pretty!
about 5 months ago
The rapture is in the bible. pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine BUT THERE IS A RAPTURE. The rapture happens after the tribulation period but before God’s wrath is poured out. The bible specifically mentions rapture in these words “delivered”, “gather”, “caught up together”.
GATHER —- in Greek means to take away, collect unto one’s self, to remove from one place and take to another
Caught up in Greek —- means “taken up, out and away” In Latin the word is Raptus, which is where the english word Rapture comes from.
Daniel 12:1
12 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be DELIVERED.
Daniel even mentions he didn’t understand to the Lord. Here is what it says:
Daniel 12: 8-10
8 I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?”
9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
THE WICKED WILL NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Jesus’s words on rapture!
Matthew 24:29-31
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will GATHER his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
1 Thessalonians 4: 16-18
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our GATHERING together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
SO THE WORDS CLEARLY USED TO DESCRIBE THE RAPTURE ARE:
“Gathering together to Him”, “CAUGHT UP TOGETHER”, “DELIVERED” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again these definitions:
GATHER —- in Greek means to take away, collect unto one’s self, to remove from one place and take to another
Caught up in Greek —- means “taken up, out and away” In Latin the word is Raptus, which is where the english word Rapture comes from.
There is no question that THERE IS A RAPTURE DISCUSSED SPECIFICALLY!!!
The rapture discussed also specifically happens at the 7th trumpet or last trumpet!!!!
See these verses for when rapture happens!
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
&
Revelation 10:7
Thanks be to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for allowing me to see this. Amen!
about 5 months ago
The sole cause for all this confusion is certain so called RELIGIONS AND THEIR FALSE DOCTRINE OF WHICH THE BIBLE SPECIFICALLY WARNS ABOUT ESPECIALLY IN THE TIME OF THE END!!!!!!!!!
The stubbornness and refusal to be humble of some people will drag them straight to hell.
Lots of these people are teaching you what they heard. Not what they read or studied. READ YOUR BIBLES!!!!!!!
Don’t just read one version of the bible. Find out if they are the same!!!!!! Read them side by side. Ask for forgiveness, repent, and change your ways to the ways of the words of the bible. Gods word. Find out for yourselves.
John 8:32 (NIV) New International Version
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
John 8:32 (KJV) King James Version
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
AGAIN READ FOR YOURSELF, COMPARE, PRAY, ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND BE HUMBLE
Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Amen!
about 5 months ago
No where in the bible does it mention a 7 year tribulation period. The bible mentions through Daniel a period of 70 weeks which is figured to be 62 years and 7 years constituting 70 years. The bible mentions a tribulation period, but no where does it say a 7 year tribulation period. Just something to note cause you will hear lots of things. Again it mentions a tribulation period and a 7 year period but not a 7 year tribulation.
While we are on facts. No where in the bible does it mention Jesus was a carpenter. Once in the bible it mentions Jesus was the son of a carpenter! Just the facts: Watch this!!!!
about 5 months ago
Wow New York !! The wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. You sure have a violent bone in you. I think I will just stick to my faith in Jesus to deliver us from the wrath to come like we are told to do. And as Paul told us about how He would catch us away prior to the antichrist being revealed (2Thess 2:7) that we are to comfort one another with these words. The stuff you are teaching is not very comforting. God did not intend for us to suffer His wrath.
Something that might help you: 1Thess 1:10 and Romans 5:9.
I’ve learned these things from The Word. I’ve never been involved in a religion.
about 5 months ago
What’s a matter with you Duke…New York pushing you out of your comfort zone? Think it’s all about love, love, love. Wahhhh!!!
about 5 months ago
Where did I propose violence. No where. There was no violence in anything I said. Thank you. If you were actually reading and watching what I said. You don’t suffer Gods wrath. That is what I have been saying. You do however go through tribulation which is a type of wrath and distress, but this tribulation is brought about by man not by God
You do not go through Gods wrath. You are raptured out before Gods wrath but after tribulation. We will see the anti-christ and be here when he is here. We will see the abomination of desolation. Then we are raptured out. It is all clearly shown above with direct passages from bible. All laid out for you in perfect form. Highlighting in caps the important key parts. These are not my words these are the words of God. Straight out of the bible. Whatever your faith teaches that is not in the bible is very dangerous. I will pray for you.
about 5 months ago
2 Thessalonians 2
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Actually if you read 2 Thess 2:7 Greg you will see as I have just posted it that it says the son of perdition must be revealed first. You will also see that is says LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. That people will try to teach you falsely about it. You should be reading it carefully. For yourself.
1 Thessalonians 1:10
10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 1:10 is saying exactly what I have been saying greg that we will not suffer God’s wrath. Gods wrath is poured out sometime after the anti-christ reveals himself.
Romans 5:9
9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!
Romans 5:9 is same as 1 thess 1:10 we will be spared from God’s wrath after the anti-christ reveals himself. In fact we will be raptured out at the last trumpet or 7th trumpet.
Here is where it says the 7th trumpet.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
Revelation 10:7
But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”
about 5 months ago
One of the many signs that we are not raptured out without experiencing tribulation is the bible itself. It starts back in the garden of eden.
Before Eve ate the fruit, there was no pain, there was no tribulations. Everything was free and easy straight from God.
Since the time of Eve eating the fruit, we will have to work and experience pain and tribulation before any fruit it produced.
Now go and match what I said all through the bible and see if that isn’t true. About every parable, about every historical event. There was tribulation before rewards were, received, given, or experienced, every single time.
Lets look at a small example of that , that we know of that happens all the time in every day life. Women can relate to this more so then men, but men are aware of it as well.
When a woman births a child (a great reward, or gift) what does she experience that grows more frequent right up until the very second she gives birth?
We will experience not only tribulation but great tribulation, tribulation like we have never seen before Greg. For we are about to receive Gods GREATEST reward of all! You can bet we will experience tribulation for it. Thanks be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for being able to relate this message to you Greg. Amen!!
about 5 months ago
Lol!! You guys win!! I am willing to be persecuted, to be tortured and even die for His Name. And you guys can line up to be the ones to do it. The Lord does warn that there will be tribulation at the hands of people like you guys. So have at it !! I will rejoice because I know what is at the end of all of this !!
about 5 months ago
Why would the bible warn of this persecution you just referred to Greg if he was pulling us out before it. Because it must come to pass as it is written. I will be right along side you Greg saying Jesus Christs name. I am not trying to make you look foolish or lead you astray. I am merely trying to help you understand what the bible is telling you. None of this is meant to upset you.
about 5 months ago
Bottom line is this. We are going to get to a point similar to Moses’s situation. The people are in Egypt and things aren’t looking so good and all of a sudden Moses shows up and says God has heard your pleas and he has a promise that he made to your father Abraham and he is going to bring you up out of Egypt and take you to the promised land. Wooo wait a minute that is gonna be a lot of trouble with Pharaoh, and it did turn into a lot of trouble with Pharaoh. They had to go through tribulations to get to the promised land.
Lastly this one verse:
1 Thessalonians 4: 16-18
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, WE WHO ARE STILL ALIVE and are left will be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
So the people have died in the past some people will die during tribulation. But that passage says first the dead will be raised up to him then WE WHO ARE LEFT.
There are people here that made it through tribulation alive!!!! That means some of us die!! But we don’t die we go to an everlasting life with our Lord and Savior and Creator in heaven. Where there is no more pain, death, trials or tribulations and always happiness.
Ultimately people look at this as doom and gloom. It is not doom and gloom. We get to go to the greatest place and be with God for eternity in happiness with no pain, no sorrow. What is the worst case scenario here? You get shot, blown up, head cut off. Its over quickly and there is a pain threshold that was designed by God that once you reach a certain amount of pain you don’t feel anything anymore. You don’t die!!! You go to a place that is so great it can’t be described as to how great it is. Nothing here on this earth is important. That is what he is telling you. Not only that our generations that are here during these end times events are living in the greatest time in all the worlds history. Everyone before us was asking all about this time.. We are in it or near it. Not only that God is going to use a lot of us to preform some great things during this period of time. We get to be apart of his plan. He chooses and uses people in unique ways and he chooses some of the most unlikely people you could imagine. We can see that from tax collectors he chose as disciples when he was here. He chose doubting Thomas to walk with him. Man if there is any army I want to be in, it is his. I am ready!!! This is great!!
That passage above shows you that some of us make it through tribulation and some of us don’t but we will all be raised up in the air to be with him.
about 5 months ago
Amen. Bottom line.
about 5 months ago
Whatever floats your boat kb
about 5 months ago
Hmm! After reading most of these posts, I have a question for all of you, if you feel you can answere!! ARE YOU REALLY READY TO MEET HIM? Are you living for him, a Holy life everyday? Have you ever looked up the word Holy? Have you set yourselves apart for him? Have you read and did, 2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
2Co 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty?? Have you ever looked up what unclean means?? Are you still touching and partaking in unclean things? Brothers and Sisters, I am telling you as sure as I am sitting here reading all these posts, you have got to stop thinking you know how it’s going to be just because you think you know how the endtimes is suppose to happen because you have a mentor or teacher telling you this and that, how it is going to be. Are you seeking the Lord, and reading his word yourselves! Do you understand what that means to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? Are you ready, and do you know how to be ready? Just because you think you know about the endtimes, does not mean you are a son or daughter of him! Listen, be honest with yourselves and judge yourselves so that you do not have to be judged, and read your Bible and weigh what you are hearing from your pastors and mentors with the word of God. Just because you go to Church and have a pastor, it does not assure your salvation! Philpippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
So in otherwards, we are without excuse if we do not take it upon ourselves to find and seek out the living God, our eternal life. Don’t be robots, spouting things you do not understand but, seek out knowledge and wisdom to know the things to come, be ready to meet your heavenly father face to face without shame or regret, before it is too late!
about 5 months ago
Agreed! Well said. Don’t just believe what people tell you. What I have been saying all along. Read the bible. Through Jesus Christ you will understand. Again I remind you that when Jesus was here he chastised the church leaders!!!!! Find out truth for yourself. Pick up the bible and read. Each day try to read a passage or 2 at least.
Proverbs 9:10
“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
John 8:32
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
1 John 5:12
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
Acts 4:12
12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.
Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.
about 5 months ago
Very well said glorybound !! We must be making an honest effort to be satisfying to Him each and every day. We will never be good enough. But an honest attempt combined with His Grace will bring an unspeakable reward in that Day. Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord !!
about 5 months ago
I’m not going to comment my thoughts on the article, but just address the fact that it is really depressing to see Christians so willing to attack and accuse one another over a topic like this…
“The only army that shoots its wounded is the Christian army.”