Are You Ready For Your Banking Password To Be Biometric Via Your Smart Phone?

Some of the nation’s largest banks, acknowledging that traditional passwords are either too cumbersome or no longer secure, are increasingly using fingerprints, facial scans and other types of biometrics to safeguard accounts.

Your old-fashioned banking password may be about to expire — forever.

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16,17 (KJV)

Some of the nation’s largest banks, acknowledging that traditional passwords are either too cumbersome or no longer secure, are increasingly using fingerprints, facial scans and other types of biometrics to safeguard accounts.

Millions of customers at Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo routinely use fingerprints to log into their bank accounts through their mobile phones. This feature, which some of the largest banks have introduced in the last few months, is enabling a huge swath of the American banking public to verify their identity with biometrics. And millions of additional customers are expected to opt in as more phones incorporate fingerprint scans.

Other uses of biometrics are also coming online. Wells Fargo lets some customers scan their eyes with their mobile phones to log into corporate accounts and wire millions of dollars. Citigroup can help verify 800,000 of its credit card customers by their voices. USAA, which serves members of the military and their families, identifies some of its customers through their facial contours.

Some of the moves reflect concern that so many hundreds of millions of email addresses, phone numbers, Social Security numbers and other personal identifiers have fallen into the hands of criminals, rendering those identifiers increasingly ineffective at protecting accounts. And while thieves could eventually find ways to steal biometric data, banks are convinced they offer more protection.

“We believe the password is dying,” said Tom Shaw, vice president for enterprise financial crimes management at USAA, which is based in San Antonio. “We realized we have to get away from personal identification information because of the growing number of data breaches.”

Long regarded as the stuff of science fiction, biometrics have been tested by big banks for decades, but have only recently become sufficiently accurate and cost effective to use in a big way. It has taken a great deal of trial and error: With many of the early prototypes, a facial scan could be foiled by bad lighting, and voice recognition could be scuttled by background noise or laryngitis.

Before smartphones became ubiquitous, there was an even bigger obstacle: To capture a finger image or scan an eyeball, a bank would have to pay to distribute the necessary technology to tens of millions of customers. A few tried, but their efforts were costly and short-lived.

Today, the equation has changed. Many models of the iPhone have touch pads that can scan fingerprints. The cameras and microphones on many mobile devices are so powerful that they can record the minute details needed to create a biometric ID.

The smartphones also provide an extra layer of security: Many biometric features will only work when used on the specific phone that belongs to the bank account holder.

“If you have your phone and you are authenticating with your fingerprint, it is very likely you,” said Samir Nanavati, a longtime biometrics expert and a founder of Twin Mill, a security software and consulting firm.

The trade-off, of course, is that in the quest for security and convenience, customers are handing over marks of their unique physical identities. After all, it is easy to change a compromised password. But a fingerprint must last forever.

Some bank executives say customers often ask whether their biometric information will become part of a private database, akin to what the F.B.I. keeps.

The banks themselves are not keeping caches of actual fingerprints or eye patterns. Rather, the banks are creating and storing what they call templates — or what amount to long, hard-to-predict numerical sequences — based on a scan of a person’s fingerprint or eyeballs. source

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.

  • Lee Rice

    I don’t know what to say. The changes are happening so fast that those who have not studied the bible will not recognize the changes. I just want the Lord to come. Our Country is under attack. We have not declared War. Banks want to limit access unless we a MARK (whatever that mark is). Are you prepared to negotiate food for silver or gold? Are you prepared with medical supplies, extra meds, bedding. Oh you know the stuff you need. I think it is coming soon. I believe it will not matter who gets elected as there will be riots in the streets. I personally have a favorite and it is not a SHE. But, I am skeptical and watch and see what he does if he gets in, We must be diligent! Lord God be with us now. We were born for this time. We are ready and we will build our strength. Thank you Lord Jesus. Send your Holy Spirit to comfort my familiy.

    • carson

      was thinking about birth pangs the otherday, I don’t know much about them since I haven’t kids and male etc but just the basics and they progress and speed up, they don’t start then stop for many months do they, and we see the speed going faster and faster with the world all bent headlong down it’s course and the things written will be fulfilled til the great and wonderful day of Christ’s return. The world heads down while those of Christ head up, the end comes only for those of the world those of Christ will never see an end, is kinda why I like the way that old (worldly) song put’s the end of the world=as we know it, but I feel fine. The way’s of the unredeemed world will end of course but all of Christ and earth will go on for some time til even a new earth and heaven is made!

    • Righteously Dividing The Enemy

      Prophecy Link

      -Seen to be seeing our sons, young males as those swimming with the fishes and loving it, mocking the death and dying of young males on the map 05/27/2016, all with my eldest son dreaming something similar a night later regarding parents, it all mean a greater deluge is coming.
      -Seem to for a change, have my unbelieving children instead warn me, how the end of this month, to the first of next month is going to get, and I quote them, “really, really, bad, 06/12/2016, ( as so said of Holy Spirits 1998, even that many people would die because e of it, even learn of end times events, 1998, Apb)
      -Seen to be seeing America, Britain going in separate directions, 2004, truly after they’ve desecrated mankind, amass this incalculable blood guiltiness, a voice declaring: “America, Britain, separate them into itty, bitty, pieces,” meaning, no church, house or government is to be left one upon another, see also Dan. 2:3-49, see the Brexit vote).
      -A Voice Declaring: “It’s all about Cameron,” after inquiring whether, I, as in the laboring profusely after the souls of men, Bride (Righteous), was, were ready for departure? 07/03/2015. That’s all while for an innumerable times since 1986, the great gathering of saints was being demonstrated to me, as so something about the departing date, September 25th, beware, Apb, The RAM

      Why Doeth Thou Marvel?

      -A question, how many Californians per these Infowars/Synder reports have gotten their families and themselves out of the way of these can’t help themselves (prophetic), cataclysmic performances. By now there is no doubt this is happening, so staying around until it all goes to hell grantee you and yours will be counted among the dead, judgment and damnation of all of it. As I said in an earlier post, earth’s inhabitants haven’t been in this much trouble with God, since Noah’s earth.
      -How big of a catastrophe does it have to be to cause over 300 million American refugees to flee these targeted by God’s wrath 2001-2017,” set back for nearly 200 years, of US soil, territories? That’s with both a pale horse/Islamic reign pending, 2017-2024, and the little horn to rise out of it, how big? A Yellowstone disaster that will not only decimate America, but it would be a catastrophe on this entire planet; as forewarn of coming disasters, 2014, as is described behind the sixth seal of Revelation, this big, or bigger?
      -Believe this Apostle when I tell you this has all been considered and calculated, and shown to me, thirty years, this spring, it’s why you have some Prophets, prophesying. Incredibably, that’s laying aside the science of it, they can’t know this, that some 20 million Americans could die this year of 2016. So again, in love as surely as my Heavenly Father, you thus being this labor of love, just you imagine watching the horrors of those taken by Noah’s flood, their terror, their cries, so again I ask, how big? How many men, women and children must die for your rebellion, for your transgressions, for your abominable pleasures: how big and how many? Even So Come Lord Jesus, Apb, The RAM, even see more here,, and here,, as you love, share, Apb

      Don’t Be Deceived

      -The most important articles, Obama’s America, Cameron’s UK, Hollande's France, Netanyahu's Israel, Assad’s Syria, Putin’s Russia, the implosion of the U.S. Economy and a voice crying aloud, “don’t touch Geneva,” or “it’s a hit, cities a hit, Guam, just did it.“ Truly, all these prophetic roads lead to the finale of the Prophet's Daniel's week of years/Jacob’s Troubles, 2017-2024 and Jesus' Millennium immediate to follow, 2024 unto a thousand years, see more here, and

  • A Trober

    Login with an eye scan to withdraw what will soon be toilet paper.

  • Pete

    I am ready. Sign me up.

  • carson

    lol, and if you don’t have a smart phone..outcasts unclean! I guess.
    I wonder if some of us will be outcasts before the time of the mark and worship mandate even arrives, oh well lol.
    phoneless joe’s already outcasts when Christ chose them from out of the world the flesh and the devil.

    wonder what bait they might use to get even more onboard..maybe a cell phone and payed phone just take this here mark thingy and get your phone today! maybe food to, here’s a years worth of food just take this here mark thingy..oh boy and no, phoneless, and markless, joe is okay with me I’ve got TONS better in Christ then anything the here now could ever offer!

    ..having come out from everything the world could offer, having known that world, could return (one of peter’s epistles has a verse along those lines?), but whaaaaaT? and why, why return to what is not life, life is only in Christ period end of story, have Christ have life! 1st john 5:12

    • Leonard

      If forcing you to buy medical insurance is “constitutional”, do you not think that forcing you to buy a smart phone and sign up for 2 years of service won’t be equally “constitutional”?

      • carson

        yeah but it’s like the mark itself whatever it turns out to be, rev 13 say’s causes all to receive but rev 13 goes on to show that some will refuse along with rev 14 shows God sends an angel telling people to not take it so obviously there’s a choice, …they can mandate whatever but there’s always a choice.

        interesting study..does such a thing as the constitution fit with what will be the beasts system of way’s and means and will he and those of him care about such things even, and we see it already today.
        But what might occur that would cause the constitution to be totally thrown out the window..good times or bad? prosperity and the old and now way’s are working well or the old and now way’s are made to not work and a new way, a supranational way, will be touted as the answer perhaps? And we see it already.

  • Leigh

    How do lost people not see that the bible predicted this 2000 years ago? I know an unsaved person cannot understand things of the spirit, but surely they have heard us Christians talk about this very thing for years, do they not recognize the signs?

    • Pete

      Leigh, because the Bible says nothing about banking passwords, RFID chips, computers or the internet. And even if you are correct that all this technology portends the “mark of the beast” and a future worldwide evil empire headed up by Satan, nobody knows when that will happen. I remember growing up hearing about UPC codes and credit cards. Assuredly, I was told, they are the mark of the beast technology.

      Even if you are right about these technologies being part of the 666 empire….keep in mind….we don’t know if these are THE technologies or whether they will lead to more and more technologies 100s of years from now. We don’t know how long these technologies will stick around before they are used for evil.

      Today’s Christians had better start getting used to the idea that they might not be THE generation.

      • carson

        that’s why people shouldn’t just look at the tech/things seen and stop there, look at the drive behind the things seen and will that drive stop, and that goes for about everything today, look underneath the thing seen and notice the driving force and the devil will have great wrath when he’s cast down (rev 12) and see’s how short a time he has left then so obviously he drives even harder to make things ready even now for when his allotted time comes.

        • Pete

          The driving force of progress is man’s insatiable desire to improve his life.

  • Crissy


    I have an unsaved husband . I’ve been showing him for a few years now, while watching the “news”, how Bible prophecy is coming to pass right in front of our eyes. I’ve mentioned the one world government, the antichrist that would lead it, the mark where no one would be able to buy or sell, everything related to Bible prophecy I’ve shared with him.
    He is now at a stage where he can see it happening and talks about it, even tells other people, yet he can’t see he needs to be saved.
    The Lord Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, means nothing to him. This is what the Word of God calls spiritual blindness, 2 Corinthians 4/4.
    I pray all the time for the Lord to open his eyes. It amazes me how he can accept phrophetic things from the Bible but salvation seemsto fall on deaf ears.

    Just thought I share with you after reading your post.

    • Pete

      Crissy, while I feel for you and pray your husband comes to the Lord, what he really needs to hear is that he is a sinner doomed to hell. And that he will one day face his creator and will be asked to give an account….and his account will come up short. The more you talk about the news and use that to predict the future – and then Jesus doesn’t come, rapture doesn’t happen – the less credibility you have with him.

      I urge you to stop preaching this way. It is a false gospel. There is no gospel that says we are to warn people of a coming 7 years of hell on earth.

      p.s. I am not assuming, nor am I trying to insinuate, that you DON’T also preach the sinner gospel I describe here. I assume you DO preach it. But making predictions based on the news is not our role. We don’t know the future. We don’t understand exactly what God is doing. It’s very risky.

      • guest

        I’m probably wasting my breath but here goes: Are you suggesting we SHOULDN’T warn people of the signs Jesus clearly explained would be indications of His soon return? Signs such as: kingdom against kingdom, nation against nation, wars and rumors of war, earthquakes, pestilence, and society being no different than it was in the days of Lot and Noah (I.e. murderous, selfish, and hopelessly perverted). Look around you kiddo. THAT’S OUR REALITY!!!!!!!

        But nah… let’s NOT warn others! Let’s NOT tell other people that our world matches to a tee what God said the world would be like in the Last Days! Let’s just keep quiet and twiddle our thumbs and then have a bunch of people miss the boat because nobody bothered to warn them of what was coming! “Well, gosh… I woulda warned ’em, but Christ never left any clear instructions that said ‘warn them.'” You mean other than all the signs he warned the disciples about that would indicate that they were in the season of His return? Ya know, the stuff happening right now?!!

        By your logic, since Christ never specifically mentioned anything about beastiality and cannibalism, I guess they must be okay! He didn’t specifically warn against them, right?

        Before I have an aneurysm brought on by your severe lack of biblical common sense, I’m gonna shut up. God must REALLY be testing me, because I’m finding my love and patience being pushed to the brink with nearly everything you say on here.

        • Pete

          Guest, I am sincerely sorry you are mad, but I will attempt to answer. You are mixing up all kinds of things here. Of course we are to point out perverse things in the culture, and to work to eradicate sin among us (first in the church). We are the salt of the earth and the light of the world. In fact I wish the church would do MORE of that. I see lack of this in my own life. The Gospel of Jesus Christ WILL eradicate sin.

          //Are you suggesting we SHOULDN’T warn people of the signs Jesus clearly explained would be indications of His soon return//

          Yes, that is what I am saying. We don’t know any signs. Jesus never told us to warn people of signs, and He didn’t give us enough information to know the signs. Jesus was talking to His disciples about the destruction of the temple, not to us. The entire Bible isn’t written TO and ABOUT you and me. Such a thing is extremely self-centered. Why do you think all these things were written to YOU? Paul never told the church to “warn people of the 7 year tribulation.” Paul himself never preached that. We are to preach the cross.

          Jesus never even hinted that things would get worse and worse before He comes. But even if He did, all of the things you listed (wars, earthquakes, pestilence etc) have been going on since Day 1, and none of us knows how bad they could get before the end, or how long they will stay bad before the end, or how long it will take for those things to get bad. Do you know? How could anyone know?

          //society being no different than it was in the days of Lot and Noah//

          Here again you err, because Jesus never said “society” would be just like Noah and Lot. He said His coming in judgment would be just like the coming in judgment upon Noah and Lot. Sudden, without warning, no escape. Anyway, again how do you KNOW how bad Noah’s day was, were you there? Even if you are right in what Jesus said (you aren’t) you have no clue how bad it could get. Or how long it will take to get that bad. It could be 1000 years. I can imagine things being a LOT worse than they are. In fact, statistically things HAVE been a lot worse in history. Read a couple history books about America in the late 1800s. Or the Roman Empire. Or the middle ages. For goodness sake, things have been a LOT LOT worse than they are now.

          Don’t call me kiddo. I am not a child, I have lived enough time to have seen speculations like you are giving me dozens of times. Always wrong. And unlike you, apparently I have a little perspective of history.

          • Tracy

            Your seem so full of yourself, what makes you think that you’re right in your assessment? Time as we know it could not end before 1948, Israel was reborn in a day, 1967, Jerusalem was retaken by Israel: just two events that hadn’t happened in the 1800’s regardless of how bad it was then. Plus now end time events are happening at a rapid pace; just like the bible says. Read your Bible instead of history books.

          • guest

            Well then I humbly apologize. I don’t agree with anything you say, but I apologize for my critical tone.

        • Pete

          @guest, thanks for your kindness but you don’t owe any apology, you can be as critical as you like, that’s perfectly fine. But thanks for working to keep things at peace.

          @Tracy, you judge me as being full of myself, but I am allowed to have a different opinion than others without your accusation. My comments are no more prideful than those of the people who proclaim we are going to “soon” see Jesus come because of something they saw in the news. What’s more prideful – claiming to know the future? Or claiming that we can’t possibly know the future?

          Then you insinuate I don’t read my Bible, instead I read history books. OK – why did you post history then? 1967? 1948? What does those have to do with the Bible, neither of those are connected to the Bible or mentioned in the Bible. They are fantasies of Tim Lahaye and Hal Lindsey. Have you ever actually read the book of Isaiah from beginning to end? Or do you just (mis)quote what others teach you? I urge you to go and read Isaiah 66:7-8. It doesn’t say Israel would be born in a day. It says that the children of Israel WERE (past tense) born at once, without any labor by Israel. Nothing to do with 1948. Talking about God miraculously bringing forth many children from Israel.

          (Anyway, the statehood of modern Israel certainly did not occur in “1 day” – it began in the 1890s with a man named Theodor Herzl and it took decades for the state of Israel to be brought forth. If you think Israel was born in one day just because one day they signed some papers, then I suppose the USA was born in one day too. Perhaps you should pick up a history book once in a while.)

          • I see I am not the only one who exegete the scripture, instead interpreting them to fit our presuppositions. But you do realized we are an extreme minority. Get ready for the long knives especially on this web site. This web site is confused to who the True Israel of God is. Jesus is the True Israel of God and if you be in Him, you are too.

        • Who are you going to warn, unbelievers, they are already lost, they will laugh at you. Just preach and share the gospel in season and out of season and God will do the rest. He knows who belongs to him and he is patient to save them (us) 2 Peter 3:9. If you want to believe preaching and sharing is a form warning so be it. But a lost person cannot discern the scripture or anyone preaching it. Christianity is a revealed religion, God must reveal himself to an individual before he can believe. He does this through the Holy Spirit.

    • Read Eph 1 and 2, it is very clear. It has nothing to do with us. It is all in the hands of God. Sovereign Grace

  • setiawan

    I am from Indonesia…. All I can say and report is that, the devil is working hard all around the globe (including my country Indonesia) to accomplish shape the world as their plan at a scary rate. In Indonesia we experience changes almost every day towards the NWO. So please everyone be informed and stay stronger then ever with our good lord Jesus Christ for he only is almighty. Amin

    • Yes, Jesus is the almighty and he will build his Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Don’t ever forget who is in charge, and we have a sovereign God. He made a plan before eternity, and it will come to pass. You can comfort yourself with that.

  • SS

    I don’t use my smart phone for any banking stuff. ever.

  • CHAR

    Leigh, I think the same thing….like, do you ppl not see what is happening on a daily basis, but they just keep going on their way and have a way of blocking it out of their busy lives. My children, in particular, roll their eyes if I say anything about the news and slowly back out of the room. They say I’m negative and that they don’t want to hear all the bad news, that they want their lives to be happy. Funny thing is, my son is depressed and quiet and seems to hardly ever be happy. If he only knew that the Lord would and could change his attitude on life in a second, but ppl just don’t want to hear bad news. They want to be on Cloud 9 at all times, thus the drinking, to get out of reality. The enemy knows how to distract ppl and keep them busy in their own little world. It’s sad, because one of these days they’re going to wake up to a cold world with all of us gone.

    • Pete

      It IS negative to claim that the world will slip into hell without any hope. Jesus said He would build His church, and the gates of hell would not withstand it. Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. Jesus defeated Satan at the cross. We have power over sin. The Gospel has power over sin. Jesus is WINNING, not losing. Jesus isn’t going to stand up from His throne, move over and allow Satan to sit on it for 7 years. Not even for one second.

  • Pete

    Just to point out all the logical fallacies when people claim that we are seeing “lots of earthquakes today” and “wars and rumors of war” so it must be close to the return of Jesus….let me just point out these facts.

    Jesus never said there would be an increase in earthquakes. Just that there would be earthquakes in various places.

    Jesus actually said in Luke 21 “But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end IS NOT BY AND BY (that is, NOT NEAR)”. So He was saying earthquakes and wars are NOT a sign.

    Jesus stated (Luke 21:12) that BEFORE the earthquakes and wars etc, that Jews would deliver Christians up into the synagogue and beat them. Nobody ever has told me when that happened.

    Even if Jesus DID say earthquakes and wars would increase, He never told us by how much. Or how long it would take to get to that number. Nor did He hint what to compare it to.

    We have been tracking earthquakes since 1900. Never mind that the USGS says there are not more earthquakes today than before – just that we can track them better. What are you guys comparing it to? 1900? 1500? The 1st century? How does anyone alive today know how many earthquakes occurred 1900 years ago?

    I rest my case.

    • Pete,

      You rest your case? I pray you don’t. Because from what you just said it seems a study of biblical hermeneutics may help you to realize a few you may lack lack.

      In your 1st reply you claim “you’re ready, sign me up.” 2nd – bible says nothing about ; no one knows. No gospel tells us to warn people. 3rd – You say ‘guest’ is mixing up all kinds of things. We don’t know any signs; He didn’t give us enough information re. signs. 4th – You factually state someone else in error!?! “Kiddo”, it bothers you, yes? 5th – claims. 6th – Logical fallacies vs. facts.

      Do you know what you are ready for? Is it because ‘you’ are justified? What about others that are not ‘born again’? Unless you in being ready, preach the gospel; the one true gospel, do you know what you are ready for?
      You claim Bible says nothing about future events? Prophecy is future events. You don’t seem to even understand that. Slow down because you’re just kidding yourself if you think you are properly teaching what God says. So, you might be at risk.
      Again, the scripture is full of prophecy, which is what makes believing in Christ a surety. If we are all sinners why do you need a separate ‘sinners’ gospel. Our role is to “WATCH” otherwise why would Jesus warn us of future things? “And you shall hear…” (Matt. 24: 6a) “When you therefore shall see…” (Matt. 24: 15a) “And then shall appear…”(Matt. 24: 30)
      Jesus said ~ “Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
      So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” (Matt. 24: 32, 33, 34, 35)
      At this 4th write in you said “We” don’t know…Why we? It seems that some know and understand much more than you. Maybe you should have said “you” don’t know. But I don’t know for sure because you have a very mixed up and confusing understanding of the Scriptures, and worldly events. You almost deny the truth. If not society, you say Jesus wasn’t talking about Noah as an example to end time behavior, therefore, If He wasn’t giving Noah and wicked society as an example for judgement: How should we behave? What should we ‘look’ for?
      OK. You say you’re not a child; I suppose you are talking of this, your own chronological age. But you need the meat of the word, not as a child (with just the milk of the Word), which you appear to be, lacking understanding of the Word.
      I agree. Not even a thought about 1 second.
      Yes, earthquakes in various places. Which is more earthquakes. Did He say other earthquake’s that are ‘usual’ would stop? No. Earthquakes + Earthquakes in (other) various places = more earthquakes.

      Earthquakes are birth pangs, or beginning of sorrows which start before the actual ‘signs’ but they will continue with signs. Luke 21 recorded almost 2,000 years ago IS NEAR TODAY!

      “Jesus answered, Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

      That which is born of flesh is flesh; and that which is born of Spirit is spirit.” (John 3: 5,6)

      And then Jesus asked this:

      “If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?” (John 3: 12)

      “If you love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever; Even the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but you know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (John 14: 15, 16, 17)

      “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.” (Rom. 8: 14)

      We need to be indwelled by the Holy Spirit, which gives us understanding and truth.

      • You are the one confusing scripture. You are reading into the scripture to fit your presuppositions. Matt 24:36-39 Christ is telling the disciples (us) that know one knows the time or hour of his second coming, also it will just like in the days of Noah, they too did not know or look for the end, because they went about their daily lives as if everyday will be like the next and then sudden destruction came upon them that dwell upon the earth. So to it will be when the Son of Man returns, like a thief in the night, but we (the elect) saints of God are to be ready and to watch for His second coming. Sure we are to discern the times and seasons, because we do not know what hour the thief will come.

      • Pete

        @Salt, can you provide for me the interpretation of what Jesus said here?

        Luke 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.

        What’s “not by and by” mean? I take that to mean NOT NEAR. But you say that wars and commotions mean the end IS near. Which is it?

        Can you also provide your interpretation of Luke 21:10-12? Also see Mark 13:9. Please tell me, if we are now in the era of birth pangs which you think are earthquakes, famines, pestilence etc…when did verse 12 happen? Because Jesus explicitly states that BEFORE those other things, believers would be persecuted, beaten and imprisoned by JEWS:

        Luk 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
        Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
        Luk 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake.

        I have been around a while, and I have NEVER heard a single dispensationalist point out the times when Christians were delivered up to the synagogues in recent history. You could argue that they have been put into prison and brought before kings. But synagogues are a JEWISH thing. All I have heard the last 100 years is how much the Jews have been persecuted by Christians.

        Let me know your thoughts.

  • Anyone who denies Jesus is the Christ or His gospel already has the mark. Just as those of us who are called to his purpose, are sealed by the Holy Spirit. So don’t worry out there no one can force or trick you into receiving some chip or tattoo.

  • Ish

    He’s coming soon. The great tribulation is soon to be upon us. Keep watching as He commanded and to those who understand the times He will quicken your spirit to know. Don’t let anyone say to you in mocking or anger ” well no one knows the day or the hour “. That is saran trying to discourage you. Because scripture also tell believer how can you know the signs of the sky when a storm is coming but you cannot discern the times we are in. If we are not supposed to know when He is at the door then sure He would never have told us. So I am reminding myself as well. Keep spreading the good news of the soon coming Kingdom of God to be delivered up to the Father and of His saving grace through His one and Only Son Jesus Christ AS WE WARN. Noah warned…we ARE to warn.
    Come Lord Jesus. COME.


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