Giant Hornets Reminiscent Of The Locusts In Book Of Revelation Now Terrorizing China

Swarms of deadly hornets have killed more than 40 people and injured more than 1,600 in northern China. At least 37 patients are in a critical or serious condition...
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Terrifying: One victim told local media that 'the more you run, the more they want to chase you'

“And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power…And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.” Revelation 9

Are we in the Great Tribulation? No, we are not. The bible says that the Rapture comes before the Tribulation. But this story illustrates quite painfully a small taste of what it will be like for those people left behind to face God’s wrath. If you would like to avoid the nightmare of the coming 7 year tribulation period – click here!

Giant killer hornets attack China

Swarms of deadly hornets have killed more than 40 people and injured more than 1,600 in northern China. At least 37 patients are in a critical or serious condition in hospitals, according to Shaanxi provincial government.

Victims of the attack have been left with deep, dark craters in their skin the size of bullet wounds. Over the past three months the cities of Angkang, Hanzhong and Shangluo have been worst affected.

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These killer hornets sting so badly that their victims look like they are covered in bullet holes.

One victim told local media that ‘the more you run, the more they want to chase you’ and some victims described being chased about 200 metres (656 feet) by the deadly insects. Authorities have mobilised a special medic team and trained more medical personnel to treat victims. An Ankang official told Xinhua that firefighters have been removing hornet nests.

The provincial government said hornets are most aggressive in behaviour when they mate and migrate in September and October. The dry and warm weather this year has contributed to the ferocity of attacks.

One of the victims, named only as Mu, said she has spent two months in a hospital undergoing 13 dialysis treatments. She has 200 stitches, but still can not move her legs. She told Xinhua, the Chinese state-run news agency: ‘The hornets were horrifying’.

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Terrifying: One victim told local media that ‘the more you run, the more they want to chase you’

‘They hit right at my head and covered my legs. All of a sudden I was stung and I couldn’t move. ‘Even now, my legs are covered with sting holes.’

‘Most of the deaths are due to allergies to the venom, said Shunichi Makino, director general of the Hokkaido Research Centre for Forestry and Forest Products Research Institute, told
CNN.

‘It’s very difficult to prevent the attacks because hornet nests are usually in hidden sites,’ he said. ‘The venom of an Asian giant hornet is very special compared with other hornets or yellow jackets,’ he warned.

‘The neurotoxin — especially to mammals including humans — it’s a special brand of venom.’ Meanwhile fears are growing that giant Asian hornets are headed for Britain.

The species is four times the size of our native honeybees and has decimated the bee population in France. The dark invaders with yellow feet are thought to have arrive in France in a delivery of Chinese pottery from the Far East in late 2004.

The insects have colonised huge swathes of France, spreading along waterways, and with a few hornets capable of destroying 30,000 bees in a couple of hours, honey production has plummeted. It has colonised 39 of France’s 100 administrative departments.

The hornets pick on honeybees as they leave their hive until the colony is so exhausted that the hornets can move in and ransack it. 

Groups of Asian hornets hover in front of a beehive, picking off single honeybees, decapitating them and stripping off their wings and legs before making off with the ‘meat ball’ to feed their young.

It is a further problem for the British honeybee, which is struggling to cope with changes in farming and climate and already has one Far Eastern invader to contend with – the varroa mite, which feeds on the bees and makes their hives more vulnerable to disease. source – Daily Mail UK

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  • hum,sound like they’ve trashed there entire country for resource’s to try to keep you with world greed and for there on profit.sez what be a man to gain the whole world and in the last he die’s anyway,christ said where is the gain in this,but give up this up hill battle of conquest of things,and what you NOW il give back to you on the last day.guess this idea has excaped those in the east and nature itself as turned on them.

  • Forget rapture, ready for the apocalypse, anyone?

    • People have to be careful when talking (and especially teaching) God’s Word to be sure they are not in error. The Great Tribulation is 42 months pr 3 1/2 years not 7 years.
      The Rapture happens as Jesus descends from the clouds at His Second Coming, not His third coming or His ‘secret’ coming.
      When pre-trib believers realize this is the Truth will you blaspheme your God during the great tribulation?
      Don’t listen to teachers who itch your ears with what you want to hear and not the HARD TRUTH that the rapture happens ONLY at the SECOND COMING. This IS the Truth.

  • has most of yall reading my stuff im sorta way out there cuz I have idea’s that don’t go with the main stream of religion has there all man made and are doomed to failure everyone one of them.has I was sleeping last night I woke up and went outside and saw a red and white craft traveling west at good rate of speed and was low enough to see strobe’s ive seen same craft before but not this low maybe below 10 thousand feet and this craft”HAD NO WINGS AND NOT A SOUND DID IT MAKE”i stayed out for awhile and there unbelieveable amount of things happening in the sky some”THINGS”are just a gleam of light traveling with 3-4 of them together going same direction and flashes of light coming from who knows where.i think the lord of the HEAVENS must be taking in the sight of this world before the tribulation. starts.

  • God bless you, Tommy. I am very old, and I believe the tribulation has begun a while back. I was waiting on the rapture, but looks like I’ll see the antichrist come up out of the sea soon. It is God’s word. Can God’s word fail?

    • @Mossy, not yet until Anti-Christ has been revealed, but we are sure in the birth-pangs!!! “Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
      Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains:
      Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
      Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
      Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
      Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
      Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”

  • Are we in the Great Tribulation? No, we are not. The bible says that the Rapture comes before the Tribulation. But this story illustrates quite painfully a small taste of what it will be like for those people left behind to face God’s wrath. I

    • Forget something, NTEB…we are all still here. Christians in the other countries are dying for the Lord. Things are happening, as the Lord says, mens hearts failing them for fear of those things coming on the earth….we better be getting right with God, and live in the truth, now, stead of the lies of the devil. Just saying!!!

      • @Mossy, Amen Mossy, Unfortunately some Americans, just can’t see that they may have to suffer like the Christians in other countries are right now!!! It is a sad day, when the American church, thinks she is so much better than the overseas churches!! 🙁

        • Apostasy in America – falling away from the truth, not falling away into heaven. Churches under 501(c) 3 incorporation are under the Beast’s authority and not the God of Isaac, Abraham and Jacob; aka JESUS CHRIST.

    • NTEB:

      Something a good indication of spiritual blindness in people is in Revelation 5. There’s the clear presence of raptured saints, “And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation,” (Rev. 5:9). This is before our Lord Jesus opens the seals that begin the tribulation. It’s SO obvious! You must also wonder about these people who are besides themselves to try and put forth there’s no pre-tribulation rapture, so obsessed by this false doctrine. Shakespeare wrote a statement most wise, in this regard, “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

      I believe there are many tares out there, as how could the Holy Spirit be so misleading people who claim Christianity and paste Bible verses, as if nobody else has a Bible, and verses which don’t even support their claims? There’s this pattern of deception all over the web, many of them angry egotists, threatening, trying to bully people into accepting deceptions, steamroll over people. I really don’t know what they think they’re accomplishing. The learned clearly see it for what it is, and the deceived, who live deceived, would seem to have a lack of Christian hunger for truth. In other words, who are they fooling, but each other, with dull eyes and ears to the spiritual? Just a terrible waste of time, all it is. In any case, they’re not here for honest reasons, rather things ego driven, which is a primary reason trolls like to try and deceive, low self esteem and a need for attention, if not to try to control, and nobody can argue the Holy Spirit is failing people who pretend to have inspired knowledge of the Bible, yet spread false doctrine. That dog don’t hunt!

      It’s gotten to where I see certain names of posts and just page past them, as, if there are glaring things not right, constantly, what does such a person really have to offer? What can you trust from them? Nothing.

      • I see you are probably too young to even know a whole lot, ‘cept what man teaches you. You haven’t gotten to know God on a personal level yet, I see. Get a little God in you before you can know what you are talking about. You haven’t experienced anything yet, even to know the power of God.

        • Amen! Mossy! Those people in chapter 5 of Revelation are sure not the raptured saint, unless of course, just 24 of them are all there are! If that’s all that was raptured, I would be more than willing to say the people on this blog are in big trouble. I believe the 24 elders are the prophets of old. Most Christian just won’t wein off the milk.

    • NTEB: Right on!

  • We Christians have already seen more than I EVER thought we would see. It sure feels like Tribulation to me!

    • We are in the beginning of sorrows; there will be a 3 1/2 year period of great tribulation soon… and the rapture happens only at the very end of those 3 1/2 years for those believers who are ALIVE and REMAIN from being killed and beheaded by the Beast.

  • STL, Theresa and Everyone:
    Your prayers have availed much. Joseph had a very bad day yesterday but they pulled him through it and he is doing very well now. He and I both deeply appreciate your concern and your precious prayers on his behalf. Thank you for praying for me also. God Bless you.
    Love, Marie

    • OH PRAISE THE LORD!!! Oh I can think of a millions songs to sing!!! Thank you Marie for letting us know, Blessings and Prayers to cont.

    • Marie; I hope you did not have any doubt, but I knew God would come through for the both of you. God is Great!

    • @Marie, praise God. God is our refuge and are strength. I am so thankful he is doing better. Will keep holding you both up. Where are you at in Iowa? I am in the Waterloo area! God Bless you both!! 🙂

  • Great news Marie! We will keep on praying for you both!

  • Jill

    Those hornets act just like muslims, that is very strange, but true,, don’t you think?

  • The hornets are just being themselves. It is what they do. Muslims have a choice, yet they choose to continually do evil in the sight of the Lord. Their time is short and one day they and their god, aka Satan, will recieve that which God has sworn to bring on them. The locust creatures of Revelation are still in waiting. Perhaps a great sink hole will open up and out they will come. Of note would be the areas where scientists have states that they have found subterranean chambers way below the Earth’s surface. One or serveral of these could be home to these ancient creatures and one day an earthquake or sinkhole will release them. Just glad that I’ll be at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

  • Vivianna

    Many of your theories will be wrong.

    • Vivianna, Much of what Brain says is correct. Well will be in heaven as the wrath of God is poured out upon the earth. The only fault I can find with his statement is it won’t be and earthquake or sink hole that releases them. The Bible tells us it will be a star that falls.

      Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

      Many believe this to be an angel, but what would God’s purpose be to hide this simple exercise from us, I can see none. I believe He would of said angel if it had been one.

      Rev 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
      These are the last woes according to this verse, farther more proving the trumps and vials are the same. So study the 5th trumpet with the 5th vial in Rev. 16:10-11.

  • This sounds like the locusts that sting and torment non believers for 5 months. However, none of the 7 trumpets have sounded.

    • JAFO, That is correct, and neither have any of the seals been opened yet either. The first 6 seals are the beginning of Jacobs troubles and the 7th seal is the seven trumpets of God’s wrath.

      • Ron: Here goes another theory of yours, but its just your opinion.

        Can you Ron, prove Post 48, wrong by scriptures?

  • Vivianna: who are you that you speak as the Voice of the Lord? You have a lot of nerve, and you take a great deal upon yourself! If ONE word is wrong: may God have mercy on you! I do NOT need someone pretending to be the Lord speaking to me! I read my Bible, I have heard the Lord’s physical voice! When He spoke to me. He changed my life! You are not Him! You have quite an ego! The hornets may just be hornets! When I lived in Florida, my youngest son fell into a red ants’ nest, I thought. It turned out to be those terrible ants marching up from the Amazon. Everyone talked about how “unstoppable” they were. When they built a nest in my backyard, swarmed all over my Little Man and bit the daylights out of him, made him sick for a couple of days, I put regular Spectracide around the hill, and on top of it, just like every other ant hill. In three days they were all dead! My Little Man had red spots of poison all over his legs, but antibiotic creme took care of him, and he made it his business to carry the poison on our daily walks around the lake, to rid the neighbourhood of the horrible things. These hornets may be just as easy to get rid of. Maybe China just hasn’t put the effort into it! I, for one, will not buy anything from France or England, until I hear that they have conquered the problem! Thinking is required! It is also the wrong time of year for the pests to be growing in numbers in cold climates, so they have the Fall and Winter to figure it out! I pray, Lord, you’ll give the scientists working on this great wisdom, and help them to come to a solution quickly, that will stop the wasps, and preserve lives, as well as the necessary bees we need so much. Thank you, Lord, for hearing my prayer, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

    • Hi Jody nice to see you. I understand what you said, and agree no one should speak for the Lord, but I have heard others say this, and I concur. I guess I take it as thinking He is so disgusted w us he says that. Thank you for doing ANT control! 🙂 thank you and it is getting late there, have a great rest of the night w Jesus!

  • chloe4truth

    someone please explain why you saying.hes acting like god as phropecy is a gift from god just like serving is a gift from god to

  • I took Vivianna’s statement more like she’s reciting a Poem. Maybe she’s a Poet.

  • chloe4truth

    no she sounds like she saying a phropecy and isnt there something wrong if all her crime is is sounding like a poet and u get offended

    • @Vivianna, I’m sorry dear, I looked at his web-site. Your are following a False prophet. The Real prophets were in the bible. People now can have a prophecy, but that doesn’t make them a prophet. I read this mans testimony. There was no mention of repentance of sins, no mention of being Born Again, no mention about the Blood of Christ washing his sins away!!! His total focus is about him, and his gifting’s. It seems that he isn’t even Born Again, and he is a Prophet??? Maybe of the devil, but not of the God of the Bible. The Bible says:1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
      1Co 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
      1Co 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
      1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
      1Co 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet show I unto you a more excellent way. ” Yet he claims to have all the gifts! This alone is against scripture!! Another big strike against him, is he quotes from the NIV version. One of the worst versions there is! I warn you child, you are walking a dark path. Get into the King James Bible and start learning the word of God for yourself, so you can discern what is truly of the Real God, and what is of the False god!! Right now, you don’t have a clue. I don’t say this to put you down, but to warn you. “Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
      Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
      Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
      Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
      Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
      Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains:
      Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
      Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
      Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
      Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
      Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
      Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
      Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
      Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
      Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
      Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

      • Yes God Almighty is the judge, and he judges the Great White Throne Judgement!! And he has given his word for us to follow and give us discernment. Read it!! You may learn something, instead of listening to false prophets!!!! God sent us his word, that is what I trust. I trust no bimbo self appointed false prophet!! I truly feel sorry for you, you are so brain washed. “Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
        Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
        Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
        Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
        Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
        Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. “

  • Stacey

    Change the doctrines of christianity? If we did that we wouldn’t be following the bible.

  • Dear God that is horrible. Please God help them

  • Teresa: How can Stephen Hanson be a Prophet, the only religion call themselves Prophets are the Mormons.

    • Good Morning wondered where you been! I have no clue STL you know more about that than moi. 😉
      Expecting snow today,but back to the 60-70s next week hopefully. You guys take care, see another Hurricane will this one affect you in any way? Blessings in the Lord to you and yours

  • Teresa Hurine Karen, heading up the gulf toward New Orleans again. Under Obama brought back from leave, the Huricane Storm Chasers?

  • Teresa: Its sunny and warm at 85 degrees. One more month winter will be upon us, cool 70 degree weather with sunny skies!

    • STL so glad on weather not hitting you. If I was rich I could be in the cool in Summer and there in Winter!! blessings

  • FYI: The word ‘Tribulation’ in Scripture is NEVER associated with GOD’s Wrath. It always deals with the persecution of true believers by the world system, satan, and his minions in the spiritual and physical realm. The greek words translated ‘tribulation’ and wrath’ are distinctly different. For an alternative view that encompasses the whole counsel of GOD, please prayerfully consider this Last Days (4-Part) Series:
    http://zionsgate.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/the-tribulation-the-great-tribulation/

    • @Santos Amen!!! 🙂

  • For those who eat Chicken Nuggets might want to read this, and I used to LOVE them

    http://news.msn.com/science-technology/just-what-is-in-that-chicken-nugget

  • AWHILE BACK I ASKED FOR PRAYERS FOR CO. AND NOW I ASK FOR THIS: I had no idea, no tv, never did watch much local news that didn’t catch eye. I had no idea of this, PLEASE PRAY

    Thompson Canyon homeowners say they need help getting mud out of basements

    We can’t get heavy equipment, generators up canyon

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    LARIMER COUNTY, Colo. – Some homeowners in the Big Thompson Canyon have no electricity, no running water, no septic systems and no way to clean the muddy mess out of their basements.

    “It scares me because the mold can grow so fast,” said Tesa Vassar. “And winter is on its way.”

    Vassar told 7NEWS that she’d like to get the mud cleaned out of her basement so she can winterize the pipes “to keep them from freezing on top of everything else.”

    Vassar’s brother posted a video on YouTube which shows a large amount of debris from her neighbor’s property in her front yard.

    “There are logs from their log cabins, roofs and floors,” she said.

    The video also shows about 4 feet of mud in her basement. Without electricity, it is mud that is going to have to be hauled out by hand.

    “We’ve got churches, the Red Cross, everybody wanting to help,” she said, “but we can’t get anybody up there.”

    When asked about the holdup, Vassar replied, “We have no access (for heavy equipment) at all.”

    The giant flood of 2013 washed out large sections of highway 34 through the Big Thompson Canyon. CDOT is working furiously to rebuild the highway as quickly as possible. The deadline is Dec. 1.

    But Vassar says she can’t wait that long to get the mud out of her house.

    “Maybe FEMA can airlift a crew in there,” she said, “put ‘em down and let them work for the day so they could at least get the stuff out of the basement.”

    7NEWS asked the Larimer County Sheriff’s Office about Vassar’s concerns.

    Spokesman John Schultz said, “We are not stopping volunteers as long as they are with a credentialed resident.”

    When asked how the volunteers can reach homes not accessible by road, Schultz said, “Some are hiking in and some are using ATVs.”

    Schultz said if they’re traveling over someone else’s private property to reach damaged homes, “they need to get permission.”

    Vassar says she has permission to travel over her neighbor’s property and she’s grateful for it, “but we can’t get generators, fans, dehumidifiers and other heavy equipment in via ATVs. We need help with that.”

    When asked about the concern some property owners may have about allowing heavier equipment to drive over their property, Schultz replied, “If that is the only way in and there is an issue, the Sheriff will talk with the property owner.”

    Vassar says homeowners in the Big Thompson Canyon are doing what they can to help others.

    — Bible dating to 1829 found in flood debris —

    She said family members found a Bible in the flood debris that washed into her front yard.

    “It dates back to 1829,” she said. “There were several photos stored among the pages.”

    Vassar forwarded a picture of the Bible and snapshots of some of the photos inside to 7NEWS. She said she’d like to find out which neighbor the Bible belongs to and get it returned to them.

    Vassar became emotional while talking about her mother, who lived through the 1976 flood, but died a few weeks before this one.

    “I’m just glad she doesn’t have to see this,” she said. “It would devastate her.”

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    • Praying, Teresa!

      • Hi Ron nice to see you, thank you. I suppose news there is like here, unless you take a local paper or have tv you dont get much. Computer is Natl stuff . I can go to Denver TV or Post, but I think you know what I mean. After catastrophy on to something else, so don’t know anymore,if I do, will let you know! I am sure they got this last snow, we did not. Blessings to you and B in Jesus Name

  • PLEASE read your Bibles before spouting out nonsense. Either The Rapture Happens before the Tribulation, or you say God is a LIAR…Now which is is?

    Jesus, Paul, John & Daniel on Rapture!
    By Mike Taylor

    1st Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    I will start with the witness of our Lord and Savior’s apostle to the Gentiles and taught personally by revelation of Jesus Christ glorified. I had been reading in 1st and 2nd Thessalonians this weekend, and was just so swept away with Paul’s testimony towards this Church that he founded in the name of Jesus. There is much controversy about what Paul was speaking of and it’s timing. I will in this sermon address those controversies of factions of the religious community that read, what I feel, is not what Jesus, or Paul, John or Daniel was speaking of when it comes to these last days and the appearing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I get every now and then nay sayers to the concept of the church being removed out of the way, from receiving God’s Divine Wrath upon a sinful world that is in full rebellion to His Law, and the only substitution for redemption of the breaking of God’s Commandments, is in the blood sacrifice of His Only Son, Jesus Christ, which they reject.
    Let us first go to 1st Thessalonians and read what Paul instructed this early church on what was coming, and was not only for their ears, but was written down for our admonition in these last days. 1st Corinthians 10:11
    As is typical for Paul in his letters, he greets them in love in his opening lines to each of the brethren written to. But in reading on down we come to the first hint that Paul was speaking of a coming event that is yet to transpire. In verse 9, he begins his first nugget of a truth that I have always embraced:
    1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
    1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
    Paul is writing to the church members and Revelation had not even been written yet by John. He speaks of wrath?
    You can find many examples of God’s wrath to come, even starting in the Old Testament concerning what is coming: Psalms 110,
    110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
    110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
    110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
    Paul speaks of it in Hebrews (I believe Paul is the unmentioned author) concerning the wrath of God,
    12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
    12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
    12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
    12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
    Of course, we can get a feel of God’s wrath when we go to Revelation, but this book is not the only place that speaks of God’s wrath, but we get the intensity and fierceness of the idea:
    6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
    6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
    6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    Understand one thing my reader, the coming time of tribulation is divine judgment on a world devoid of love for one another, and committing untold sinful acts in complete rebellion to God’s Law and authority, and who have whole-hardheartedly rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the only payment for their sinful condition. Do we not understand that God will destroy up to 2/3 of all mankind in natural environmental catastrophes and what only be assigned extraordinary Divine occurrences not known to man in modern times and can only be attributed to Almighty God? Let us guesstimate the carnage that will be inflicted on this world, if all of us were still on this planet and none of us were removed. Right now we are approaching or have eclipsed the 7 billion mark of humanity on this planet. If we somehow envision the destruction of 2/3 of all mankind, that would be 4.69 billion people dying a horrible death leaving a little more than 2 billion people left. God warned that He will punish the inhabitants of the earth.
    Isaiah 26:20
    26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
    26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
    26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. (A clear passage of divine intervention and removal of His people before He slays mankind on earth)
    Oh, I hear the naysayers who say that the last trump in the opening verses are the same trump that the 7th angel blows in Revelation, but fail to understand that Paul was speaking of a last trump associated with the Feast of Trumpets. For a detailed summary of my position on this gross error by some churches today, go to my website and read “Confusion over End-time Events”. In it the conflict over this trumpets will be explained.
    Paul steps it up a bit in the next chapter of 1st Thessalonians chapter 5:
    5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
    5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
    5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
    5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
    5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
    5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
    5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
    5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
    5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

    How much more clear can Paul say it? Do you think that the coming of the Lord when He comes to rule on this planet for 1000 years will be proceeded in secret? Do you think He will come when they expect it not? Paul talks of sudden destruction, as woman in child labor will not escape the pain or the delivery of the baby. What fits this scenario, a sudden, without warning snatching away of children of light, to the horror of the children of darkness…OR would it be more plausible for them to be going about business as usual in the very run-up to the Glorious Appearing of Jesus Christ in the clouds of glory with great power (probably proceeded by a great appearance of fire and light, I hypothesize). With almost 5 billion people being consumed, dead bodies all around, animals eating the corpses of those slain, and the carnage of divine retribution, would it be business as usual? Let us examine the signs of His final appearing, shall we? Will it be business as usual? I think you know the answer!
    Revelation,
    8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
    8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
    8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
    8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
    ON down,
    8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
    Reading on down the horror that is unleashed by this fourth angel till we get to the fifth angel:
    9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
    9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
    9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
    9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
    More pain and suffering/death when the sixth angel sounds his trumpet:
    9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
    9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
    9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
    Then to the end of the chapter 9, descriptions of a most detailed description of what will befall rebellious mankind. Until, the seventh angel sounds his trumpet to unleash the final assault upon earth to turn them to repentance, but God knows that they will not.
    Does this sound like Jesus coming back to this earth as a thief? Will not men know that they are under divine retribution? Will the world that is present be nearly extinguished of all life from what it was prior to the beginning of the opening of the 1st Seal, as found in Revelation 6:1? Will men be going about business as usual? Men’s hearts will be failing them from fear, over what is coming upon the earth. Luke 21:26.
    Sheer terror will reign supreme. Does this sound like business as usual? Naysayers, ask yourselves, does this sound like as in the time of day of Noah (Matthew 24:37), or does it sound like there is another time period prior to these events that addresses this more realistically and prophetically? Think on that a bit, as I return to Paul addressing the Thessalonians in 2nd Thessalonians.

    After these verses, if we believe that Jesus will forcefully remove His bride according to Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.
    And if we believe in any other teachings beside the Pre-Trib removal of the church through the Rapture, then let me drop something on you to think about. If during the Great Tribulation all will be required to take the mark of the beast and all who do will be damned according to Scripture, right?
    If you refuse the mark, you will be killed either by ruling beast power, or the followers of this power. If the Post-Millennial view is correct, with all the environmental upheaval, the divine judgments, the loss of life of upward of 2/3 of the entire planet destroyed leaving either the damned or the saved, then when Jesus Christ breaks through the clouds and the saved are transformed into spirit beings and the ones with the mark of the beast are destroyed, my question is: Who will enter the Millennium in their mortal flesh?
    You see the problem? There will be no one left alive, or in mortal flesh that has not been changed to spirit to even populate the Kingdom of God and produce human beings of flesh as expressed in your Bible. The only teaching that makes sense is the coming of the Lord for His church prior to the Tribulation, then the Second Advent of Jesus Christ to set up His Kingdom for a thousand years in that order. God through the Holy Spirit has called a remnant that will believe unto salvation in this age of the dispensation of the church. When Jesus comes back He will come for one final battle of swift judgment and this verse caught my eye and further proves that when He comes back and it opened this sermon:
    Revelation 17:14 “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.”
    Folks, that is: You and me of the dispensation of grace.

    THE DAY OF THE LORD
    Here the church at Thessalonica was troubled, as false prophets had entered into their midst and were preaching that the “Day of the Lord” had already happened. I call them “Ancient Preterist” who believed that all things had been fulfilled, and we were just waiting for Jesus to come back, except this church at Thessalonica understood the Day of the Lord, as judgment and wrath, not a sign of joy.
    Paul admonished them:
    1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
    1:5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
    1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
    1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
    1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
    Paul re-teaches them what he had already told them concerning the coming “Day of the Lord”.
    Why were they fearful? They believed that they had missed the coming of the Lord for His Church and were found wanting and not fit to be removed from the earth and were waiting for the judgment from God, which would mean they missed the greatest event in all of man-kind, next the crucifixion and resurrection of their Lord and ours, Jesus the Messiah. Paul explains:
    2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    Paul explains that this MUST happen first before the Great Day of the Lord, and His judgment upon earth. John reveals in Revelation that this man is revealed by a number:
    13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
    This is what Paul spoke of, and what John through the Revelation of Jesus Christ shared with us. He spoke again of this man. Going back to Paul, as he continues in chapter 2 of 2nd Thessalonians,
    2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
    2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    THE RUNNER UP TO THE ANTI-CHRIST
    No where in history after this time period has a man stood in the temple and claimed to be a god. Only once in the history of the nation of Israel had a man stood in the temple and claimed to be a god, and it was many centuries before this verse was penned by Paul. What he is telling us, is that prophecy has duality, or will repeat itself in our time, and remember, these verses were written for us in modern end times, not just of the church Paul and John wrote them to. Who was that man who stood in the temple and a fore runner of the modern Abomination who causeth Desolation, as Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15? His name was Antiochus Epiphanies, and he made a statue of Zeus, with his face and put it in the Holy of Holies in the Temple of Jerusalem and proclaimed all must worship it on pain of death. He also sacrificed pigs on the altars of God, which were considered unclean. So this man defiled the temple that led to the Maccabean War and the observance of Hanukkah, or cleansing of the temple. As Jesus prophesied, and as John and Paul revealed, it will happen again.
    Let’s look at verse 7 of this last passage. We, as watchmen on the wall, have hammered this home many, many times. Students, who is “only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.”? If you said the Holy Spirit, you receive an A+, as by interpretation in context, it is the only thing that is holding back Satan the devil, having full sway on this earth and attempting full destruction of mankind, along with receiving worship for himself.
    2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 King James Version (KJV)
    6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way
    For me, this is a strong argument that the church has been removed out of the way, BEFORE the man of perdition, whose name is 666, is revealed and stands in the temple of God, claiming to be god. Note that Jesus said that He would never leave us or forsake us, Hebrews 13:5, Matthew 28:20, hence He sent His Holy Spirit, as counselor, comforter, and guider of our walk with our Lord and Savior. If God’s Holy Spirit is removed, based on the clear Word of our Lord, who cannot lie, we will be removed as well.
    Daniel chapter 9, and the Abomination that Causeth Desolation
    KJV Daniel 9,
    9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
    9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
    I read where a national organized religion that split apart in the 80s, called the World Wide Church of God, interpreted that passage not to be the Anti-Christ, but the Messiah. Still in existence are pocket organizations who still adhere to this argument, in their attempt to discredit the concept that there will actually be an Anti-Christ, or argue against a 7 year tribulation. They are proponents of post-tribulation second coming and are anticipating, no relishing the idea of being slain in the Tribulation. When I read that explanation, I was aghast. I went to a website of theirs and pulled this text:
    “The most abused verse on the subject of the end times is Daniel 9:27, and it is a linchpin in the Pre-tribulation Rapture theory: ‘Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.’Unlike the Protestants, we believe that “he” in this verse refers to Messiah, not Antichrist, for the main subject of this section is Messiah. Richard Ritenbaugh, Prophecy Watch.

    True, the beginning of the passage deals with Jesus Christ, but He did not cease the sacrifices in the temple. It continue unabated until 70 AD when the Temple was leveled to the ground by Roman soldiers of Tiberius. Then they go onto to say that:
    In Isaiah 28:15, we protestants and “a covenant with death,” say that the Antichrist makes a peace treaty for one week—seven years—with the Jews. But this makes no sense! Why would the Beast “destroy the city [Jerusalem] and the sanctuary” (Daniel 9:26), and “then . . . confirm a covenant . . . for one week”
    In this analogy, they deny the clear implication of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy that was interrupted when Messiah was cut off in year 483 of the prophecy. That leaves the last 7 years that must be completed for Israel to be saved and receive their Messiah. Obviously, they don’t understand the time-line of history, or duality of prophecy. I think anyone, including this minister, is blinded by their ideology of a failed organization that proposed that the second return of Jesus Christ would be in 1972, hence many members of this denomination sold all they had, took no social security, or started living in caves. I recall the cry of “flee in 73” as their mantra. Did it happen? No, much like Harold Camping’s failed prophecy, false prophets are all within the camp of the religious and doomed to their predictions of when or how Jesus will return. Now is Mr. Ritenbaugh a false prophet? I am not singling him out, but it is a mindset of many post tribbers that this promise of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is suspect and that we all are all full of hogwash is rampant in this denomination and others just to be fair.
    Others in this camp, propose that when Jesus comes in the clouds of heaven to receive His church, that we will be changed. Yes, but then they propose that we turn right around or make a sharp U-turn and come right back down to do battle with the enemies of God. They site Zechariah chapter 14, when Jesus’ feet touch the Mount of Olives. I asked one minister I know, “are we going up to just saddle up?” coming with Jesus on horses, dressed in linen, white and clean as Revelation chapter 19 shows? He had no answer. And what about the Marriage Supper of the Lamb? He proposed it was poetic or an allegory….say what?
    Let’s examine scripturally what Daniel was referring to and that a vast majority of theologians that are scripturally sound embrace. I take this from an online website to organize the thought process of examining this passage, which I totally agree with:
    “Here are the Sixty nine (7 + 62) “WEEKS” that have already Happened
    Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be SEVEN WEEKS , and THREESCORE and TWO WEEKS: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

    Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (note the caps of Prince, and prince, my emphasis. Two different “princes”. Prince of Glory, and prince of this world)

    Here is the ONE “WEEK” that Remains
    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK : and in the MIDST of the WEEK he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    Since God said he would deal with the Jews as a NATION for SEVENTY “WEEKS” and He promised to regather them nationally in the future in preparation for His Coming, then, God plans to deal with the NATION Israel in the future for ONE “WEEK” before He returns. To say that ONE WEEK of Daniel 9:27 has already happened (since God says He will regather Israel as a NATION) is to say there will be 71 WEEKS. To say that the week WILL NOT happen in the future is to say there are less than SEVENTY “WEEKS.”

    Since we already know (from the 69 weeks that HAVE happened) that a “WEEK” is SEVEN YEARS, then, God must have a future dealing with the NATION Israel for SEVEN years.”
    Spot on. Israel is the door to end time prophecy and Jerusalem is the key to that door. The Seventieth Week of Daniel’s prophecy is future and deals with ISRAEL solely for their unbelief and to finish transgressions. Israel will embrace, finally, their Messiah and proclaim, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord” Matthew 23:39. Our Father and our Lord and Savior will purify Israel as silver is refined in the fire. Malachi 3:2. When Jesus spoke in Matthew 24, concerning the Abomination that Causeth Desolation, His message was pointed straight at Israel. I envision that the only ones who will remain when Jesus returns for divine judgment and take possession of His creation by the sword of His mouth, by speaking only the Words. He will destroy all rebellion, which by my belief will be mostly Gentiles, because the only ones who will listen to the 144,000 Evangelist from the 12 tribes of Israel, will be of the nation of Israel proper, or those scattered over the earth. How many will be blinded to the truth and take the mark of the Beast is conjecture on my part, but is is prophesied that God will send them a lie, 2nd Thessalonians,
    2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    Note that if you are still here, then God will send you a strong delusion, A LIE, that you will believe because you want to. Your mind will have no protection, as the Holy Spirit is GONE, VANISHED, right along with His Church. Satan will have full sway, full unimpeded powers to deceive the human mind. Each of those left will embrace the false god of this world, known as the Anti-Christ, no matter what another religion might feed you. So as a watchman on the wall, I have given you witness of four of the major figures in your bible, John, Paul, Daniel, and the Master, Jesus our Messiah. I report, you decide. Understand, that I am not preaching to scare you, but to warn you. There is coming a day when salvation will be mostly for the Jewish people, as the Church Age has suddenly ended for you, and you have been caught flat footed. You were not ready, and Jesus has come, as He said He would. Won’t you make yourself ready. Wanna know how? Email me after reading John 3:16 then all of the Gospel of John, just who this man Jesus was, and IS….the great I AM, that I AM…Jehovah God. Repent for today is the day of salvation.
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    The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses
    By Paul Kocourek
    More proof that the Rapture is Pre-Trib is hidden in the timing of the Two Witnesses. The evidence for this becomes clear as we investigate the question of when the Two Witnesses’ ministry begins—during the first half of the Tribulation, or during the second.
    Students of Bible prophecy from the dispensational viewpoint understand there is a Tribulation period of 7 years prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. During this time, God and Satan vie for the souls of men. Satan introduces his infamous 666 mark that all men must accept to worship him, or die by beheading. God, on the other hand, extends a last-minute opportunity for men to receive forgiveness for their sins through faith in Jesus Christ. One of the things taught in Revelation is that God uses Two Witnesses to preach Jesus Christ. The question before us is: When will the time of the Two Witnesses’ ministry occur within the Trib period’s 7 years? The answer to this question also helps demonstrate why the Rapture is Pre-Trib.
    The 7-year Trib period comes from the prophecy of the 70 weeks in Daniel chapter 9, where each “week” is a time period of 7 years. The Tribulation period is the last, or 70th, “Week” of that prophecy. This prophetic week is divided into two halves, each 3½ years long. (Daniel 9:27) It needs further to be said that those years are not our familiar calendar years of 365¼ days each, but are actual Jewish lunar years of 360 days each, where each month is exactly 30 days each. That being said, each half of the Trib period is 1,260 days long, the same number of days as the ministry of the Two Witnesses:
    “And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.” (Revelation 11:3)
    We are further taught just who these Two Witnesses are:
    “These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord.” (Revelation 11:4)
    This corresponds to an Old Testament prophecy given to Israel through an angel of the Lord in Zechariah chapter 4. First the prophet sees a vision in verses 3-4, and some verses later asks the angel to explain what he was seeing:
    “And I answered the second time and said to him, ‘What are the two olive branches which are beside the two golden pipes, which empty the golden oil from themselves?’ So he answered me, saying, ‘Do you not know what these are?’ And I said, ‘No, my lord.’ Then he said, ‘These are the two anointed ones who are standing by the Lord of the whole earth.'” (Zechariah 4:12-14)
    The verse in Revelation 11:4 ties the two Scripture passages together, so that when the Tribulation period is underway, the descendants of Israel who see the Two Witnesses will understand from the book of Revelation that the Two Witnesses are the anointed ones Zechariah foretold would be coming.
    Now concerning the number of 1,260 days, I do not believe the sameness of half the Trib period and the ministry time span of the Two Witnesses is a coincidence. Some students of Bible prophecy think the Two Witnesses’ 1,260 days of ministry is aligned with the first half of the Trib period, while others believe it aligns with the second half. This latter view is primarily due to Revelation 11:3-13 (which is the entire story of the Two Witnesses) being found between Revelation 9:13-21, which describes the “second woe” (i.e., the sixth angel trumpet judgment), and Revelation 11:14-19, which describes the “third woe” (i.e., the seventh angel trumpet judgment).
    However, some careful thought will show that the 1,260 days of the Two Witnesses’ ministry cannot be located, time-wise, in the second half of the Trib period.
    First, consider the nature of exactitude with God’s numbers. When He says 1,260 days, He doesn’t mean 1,261 days or 1,259 days. When dealing with these Tribulation time figures, we will find them expressed differently in Scripture, but all are exactly equivalent. There’s “a time, times and half a time” (Daniel 7:25), which is repeated in Revelation 12:14 and also defined for us in Revelation 12:6:
    “Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred sixty days.” (Revelation 12:6)
    “But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.” (Revelation 12:14)
    From this we know “a time, times and half a time” = 1,260 days. Likewise, the time of the reign of the Antichrist is given in Daniel 7:25 as “a time, times and half a time,” and is repeated in Revelation 13:5 as “42 months.”
    “He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times and half a time.” (Daniel 7:25)
    “There was given him a mouth speaking arrogant words and blasphemies, and authority to act for forty-two months was given to him.” (Revelation 13:5)
    By this we know that the Antichrist’s reign in Revelation 13:5 (i.e., 42 months) is exactly 1,260 days, not a day more nor a day less. In Daniel 9:27, from which (as we have already seen) we derive the 7-year length of the Trib period, we find the Antichrist committing the Abomination of Desolation. The Abomination of Desolation is an act of sacrilege in which he enters the temple of God and puts a stop to Jewish worship sacrifices, and demands to be worshipped as God himself:
    “Who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
    We know from Daniel that this event occurs in the exact center of the Trib period’s 7 years:
    “…but in the middle of the week [i.e., 1 prophetic week = 7 Jewish lunar years] he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering, and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate…” (Daniel 9:27b)
    The Abomination of Desolation makes the temple of God “desolate.” Please carefully note that Antichrist will continue his reign until he is destroyed:
    “…even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.” (Daniel 9:27c)
    This can only mean that Antichrist, whom we have seen reigns for 42 months, is destroyed according to God’s decree, at the 1,260th day of his reign, not one day more or less. This destruction of the Antichrist is revealed in Revelation chapter 19 at the Second Coming. There, the Antichrist and his associate in evil, the False Prophet, are dealt with in finality:
    “…these two were thrown alive in the lake of fire…” (Revelation 19:20b)
    Now, you might say, “Okay, so the Antichrist is destroyed after reigning exactly 1,260 days. So what’s that got to do with the time of the ministry of the Two Witnesses?” I’m glad you asked. In Revelation 11, after revealing the effects and nature of the Two Witnesses’ ministry, it records for us:
    “When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them.” (Revelation 11:7)
    We are further told the Two Witnesses’ bodies will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for “three and a half days.” (Revelation 11:9b) Revelation goes on to say:
    “But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God came into them, and they stood on their feet; and great fear fell upon those who were watching them.” (Revelation 11:11)
    For argument’s sake, let’s assume the ministry of the Two Witnesses really is aligned with the second half of the Tribulation. Follow with me the following time sequence based on that assumption:
    At the Tribulation period’s midpoint, the Antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation. (Daniel 9:27) That same day, the ministry of the Two Witnesses begins, and they minister for the ordained 1,260 days, which is also the length of the Antichrist’s reign. Then, on the final day of the Antichrist’s reign, he kills the Two Witnesses. But! Jesus comes back right then also and has the Antichrist and False Prophet thrown into the Lake of Fire. Despite this world-shaking event of the Second Coming, the world nonetheless watches the bodies of the Two Witnesses for 3½ more days, even while Jesus is judging the nations (Matthew 25:31-46) and setting up His kingdom. Still following that time sequence, after those 3½ extra days, the bodies rise to life again and there’s a great earthquake. (Revelation 11:13) Then the third woe occurs (Revelation 11:14), meaning the next angel, the one with the seventh trumpet, blows his horn. (Revelation 11:15-19) And that’s not even counting the seven Bowls of Wrath that additionally follow after the Seventh Trumpet.
    All this happening 3½ days AFTER the Second Coming?
    Does anybody besides me see a problem with this?
    It is simply a fact that the seven Seals, seven Trumpets and seven Bowls all are completed BEFORE the Second Coming. The time of the Two Witnesses’ ministry CANNOT be in the second half of the Trib period. Even if we allow that the Revelation passage of the Two Witnesses is isolated, time-wise, from the progression of the sixth and seventh Trumpets (which, in fact, it is), we still can’t have the time of their ministry in the second half. The world rejoices and gloats over the death of these two men of God and gives gifts to one another in a satanic celebration during those 3½ days (Revelation 11:9-10), something that would have to be happening while Jesus has already returned to Earth. Does anyone seriously expect that Jesus, then returned to Earth in His power and glory as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, would ALLOW that? I don’t think so!
    May I suggest a simpler explanation that does not cause impossible conflicts like those shown above?
    In Revelation 9, John is describing a time point in the progression of the 21 Judgments where those judgments are well past the middle point of the Trib’s 7 years. In the next chapter John is told, “You must prophesy again concerning peoples and nations and tongues and kings.” (Revelation 10:11b) This means that the “clock” of the Trib period is being reset back to the Trib period’s beginning to describe what follows next.
    John then describes in Revelation 11:1-2 the temple of God. This HAS to be in existence in the first half of the Trib period in order for the Antichrist to enter the temple to commit his Abomination of Desolation at the midpoint of the Trib. This is proof that the time sequence of Revelation 11:1-13 is in the first half, meaning both the temple and the Two Witnesses are present when the Trib starts. To me this also implies that the temple has to be already fully built when the Trib period starts, for the instruction in Revelation 11:1 says, “Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, ‘Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it.'” You can’t hand a measuring rod to someone to measure something that isn’t built yet. The instruction implies he is being ordered to measure a completed item, not something under construction.
    As Revelation 11 moves along, John signals that the Revelation 10:11 “reset” (back to the beginning of the Trib period) has ended, and the countdown of the 21 Judgments has resumed. He does this by saying:
    “The second woe is past; behold, the third woe is coming quickly.” (Revelation 11:14)
    When the first day of the 7-year Trib period (i.e., Daniel’s 70th week, Daniel 9:27) begins, it is then that the Two Witnesses appear; their ministry begins on Day 1 of the Trib period, and ends on Day 1,260, when the Antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation and goes out to murder them.
    Now, when you see the impossibility of the time of the Two Witnesses’ ministry being in the second half, thus requiring that it be in the first half, you can see the evidence for the Rapture showing clearly as Pre-Trib. Think about it for a moment. The Church of Jesus Christ is commanded to be Jesus’ witnesses. (Acts 1:8) Why would God put into operation these two spectacular witnesses to bear witness of Jesus Christ, if the Church were still on Earth to do that job as it has for the past 2,000 years?
    However, with the Pre-Trib Rapture happening, billions of people will suddenly have no one to tell them about Jesus. The Christians will all be gone. However, with the time of the Two Witnesses’ ministry beginning on Day 1 of the Trib, people will be hearing about Jesus despite the disappearance of Christians in the Rapture. I believe it is the ministry of the Two Witnesses that brings to faith the 144,000 male Jews of Revelation 7:1-8. These Jewish men finally believe in Jesus, and realize that the time is short, and while the Two Witnesses minister to Israel, the 144,000 spread out over all the Gentile nations to share Jesus Christ. Someone has compared it to 144,000 Billy Grahams let loose on the world at once!
    This, too, is an evidence that the Rapture is Pre-Trib. As said earlier, Jesus gave to His Church the job of being witnesses to Him. (Acts 1:8) Why would God now use two Jewish witnesses doing the miracles of Moses and Elijah, and 144,000 Jewish men to share the gospel, unless it were necessary because the Church is no longer on Earth to do the job?
    The result of the ministry of the 144,000 is a great number of saved souls “…which no one can count out, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues…” (Revelation 7:9b) They cry out, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne and to the Lamb.” (Revelation 7:10b)
    In conclusion, the understanding that makes the best sense is that the ministry of the Two Witnesses begins on Day 1 of the Tribulation period. They win the 144,000 to Christ, who then go out in the world to win uncountable numbers of souls. The Two Witnesses continue their own ministry in Israel, performing the miracles of Moses and Elijah (i.e., turning water to blood, etc.). (Revelation 11:5-6)
    It is important to note that in doing the miracles of Moses and Elijah, the Two Witnesses represent the testimony of the two authorities acknowledged by the sons of Israel, the Law and the Prophets. When giving “The Golden Rule,” Jesus referenced that same authority the people knew when He said, “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 7:12) When Jesus had taken Peter, James and John to the Mount of Transfiguration, they met Moses and Elijah, who epitomize the Law (Moses) and the Prophets (Elijah). (Luke 9:20) When Jesus rebuked the scoffing Pharisees, again He spoke of the Law and the Prophets. (Luke 16:14-16) Also, after His resurrection, Jesus appeared to two disciples on the road to Emmaus, and taught them about Himself out of the Law and the Prophets. (Luke 24:25-27)
    During the Tribulation, the sons of Israel will be seeing, with their own eyes, the Two Witnesses performing the miracles of Moses and Elijah, and will be hearing, with their own ears, the testimony of those two authorities, representing the Law and the Prophets, preaching Jesus Christ.
    At the end of their ministry, on Day 1,260, the Antichrist goes into the temple of God and commits the Abomination of Desolation. Then the words of Jesus become terribly clear:
    “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.” (Matthew 24:15-16)
    The Antichrist slays the Two Witnesses, and the Trib period now begins its second half. The Antichrist then goes after God’s people in a massive persecution that will permit no worship except to him. It says in Scripture of this time (i.e., the second half of the Trib):
    “I kept looking, and that horn [i.e., Antichrist] was waging war with the saints and overpowering them.” (Daniel 7:21)
    “…and they will be given into his hand for a time, times and half a time.” (Daniel 7:25b)
    “There was given to him a mouth speaking arrogant words and blasphemies, and authority to act for forty-two months was given to him.” (Revelation 13:5)
    “It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.” (Revelation 13:7)
    His reign is supreme during the second half. With the committing of the Abomination of Desolation, he proceeds forth to force people to submit to him, via the infamous 666 mark, or be beheaded. (Revelation 13:15; Revelation 20:4)
    As a last thought, it is also this supreme reign of his during the second half that shows why all of the evangelism must take place in the Trib period’s first half, both that of the Two Witnesses and that of the 144,000 Israelites. Therefore, the time of the Two Witnesses can be none other than during the first half of the Tribulation period, with the Rapture preceding it.
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    ****First of all, note that these twenty-four elders who represent the Church are seen by the Apostle John in heaven, not on the earth, sitting on thrones, wearing crowns on their heads, and clothed in white raiment, all of which is proof that they have been resurrected, translated and rewarded. It is completely incongruous to conceive of a disembodied spirit crowned and rewarded apart from the resurrection and the rapture. We conclude therefore that the rapture has already taken place.
    Secondly, note that in chapter five these elders watch with great interest as the Lamb of God takes the sealed book of divine judgment from the hand of the One who sits on the central throne. To close the chapter John sees them singing a song of their own redemption and adoring the Lamb as the One who alone has the right to hold the book.
    Thirdly, note that all of these events take place before a single seal of the book of Judgment is broken, before a single trumpet of judgment is sounded and before a single bowl of divine wrath is poured out on the earth. Hence chronologically chapters four and five of Revelation take place before any of the terrible Judgments described in chapters six to nineteen are poured out on the earth. Logically this is imperative. Chapters four and five constitute an introductory vision to the events which are about to happen. Chapter four concerns the setting up of a special throne of judgment for the tribulation and chapter five describes the little book and its seven seals. The breaking of the first seal ushers in the first Judgment. Logically then the events of these two chapters must precede the great tribulation and its scenes of judgment because it is from the things here pictured that these Judgments proceed.
    Now, regardless of what you do with chapters six through nineteen these arguments prove a pretribulational rapture. As McClain has so ably put it,
    Now regardless of the chronological interpretation you may make of the Judgments of Revelation 6 to19; whether you adopt some recapitulation or overlapping scheme; shuffle the seals and trumpets and vials as you will; you cannot push chapters 4 and 5 into the picture which follows in chapters 6 to19. There is no judgment until the first seal is broken; the first seal is not broken until the Lamb receives the Sealed Book; the Lamb does not take the Book until the 24 are in heaven, sitting on thrones and with crowns on their heads. If the scene in heaven described in chapters 4 and 5 does not precede the Judgments of 6 to19, then no man can make any sense whatever out of the order of things in the last book of the Bible. And we may as well complain with Martin Luther, “Even if it were a blessed thing to believe what is in it, no man knows what that is.”(18)
    And so we have in this beautiful symbol a clear reference to the Church which has been raptured prior to the tribulation. Whereas we are certain that this treatise will not convince everyone of the truths which we have presented, may this paper serve as a source of blessing to those who love this truth. “Even so, come Lord Jesus.”****

    • Suez: As you possibly being a Post-tribbers. please. I beg you, prove Paul Kidd testimony is completely wrong?

      • @STL, sorry Steve, I didn’t even read it. It’s just to long, besides that, I have said over and over. I not going to argue with anyone. It has to be the Holy Spirit to change anyone’s mind, not some man’s word. So please stop trying to put me in your fight!! I just love God and Jesus Christ, and I am so longing for him to come,. And I know he is going to come. So until he comes, I stand firm upon his word, and trust him for his strength, grace, and love! 🙂

    • Paul Kidd: Thank you for all that effort proving without a doubt that Our Lord Jesus Christ is coming for us before the Tribulation.

      None, of the Mid or Post Tribbers has yet explain why Jesus will come in two seperate events:

      1st one: 1st Thess 4:17 Jesus come in the air and picks up his christians.
      2nd one: Jesus come in His 2nd Coming on earth at Mt. Olives.
      3rd one: In Revealtion there is one christians being taking up to heaven alive. Everyone by this time, are dead in their faith in Jesus Christ.

      But these Post-tribbers are so full of pride to prove 1st Thess. 4: 14-18 wrong, they make up lies to fill in the gaps, so their theory sounds fesible!

      Thank you, you have embarshed my heart and mind, about Pre-Tribulation.

      But I know that Ron and Brenda and others will deny the finding of your testimony, because Satan deception will make them feel they have to prove it wrong, by calling it a Fairy Tales.

      But from the lack of faith in Jesus Christ and His Holy scriptures, these people will enter this Tribulation and hopefully be martyred for their faith in Jesus Christ.

    • paul, You know little of God’s Book. Wrath is not tribulation, and the tribulation period according to jesus last only from the middle of the week until the end.

      Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
      Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

      Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

      Now what is the matter with you people you can’t see the simple truth? Jesus plainly said, when you see the abomination of desolation, then shall be great tribulation, to flee out of Judea and pray your flight be not in winter to tie it together. Now Daniel plainly told us the abomination of desolation happens at the middle of the week. Open your eyes a little bit so you can see. Wake up and study this, so you can get at least one thing right. The Bible doesn’t lie. And never has it called Great tribulation, the Wrath of God. It is not God’s wrath. God’s wrath comes after the tribulation with the start of the first trumpet in Rev. 8.
      An other thing, those elders are in heaven because they have been martyred for the testimony because they are the prophets of old. Even the martyrs are under the altar in heaven, and have been their since Stephen was killed in Acts 7:59 and quite possibly since Cain slew Abel. Call God a liar? If any one is doing that, then Jesus said after tribulation of those days He shall gather together His elect, sitting on the clouds of heaven, with a sharp sickle in His hand. The trumpet will blow and with the voice of the arc angel, He shall shout, and all the world will see it and tremble in fear, for the earth will shake and the heavens will be going dark. The day the Lord gathers His elect is the day the wrath of God has coming. The 7 trumpets will sound and He will return to take his kingdom, with His saints to reign forever and ever, at the last trumpet of His wrath, as stated in:

      Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

      • Ron: your problem is your pride, you can not see the simple truth. and you continue to post that NTEB are liars, about the Pre-tribulation.

        Its only your opinion, but it does not hold any water, your bucket has holes in it.

        And stop insulting others, stating there stupid!

        • @STL, his pride? He just provided scripture Steven. What is prideful about that. Read it! I would rather go by scripture instead of the silly teachings of a man!! Maybe if people would read Gods word prayerfully and forget their man taught ways, God would speak truth to them. But as long as people stick to mans teachings, and not what the Spirit of Truth says himself, they will not learn truth! I love you but you can be blinded by mans teachings….:-(

      • I Know Jesus has never lied. I know His Word doesn’t lie either.

        • Ron: But we know that you have lied, saying your SINLESS, since the Holy Spirit entered you?

          • That is right STL, sinless, since Jesus came and washed my sins away, I been made free from sin, I’m free. Clean and white , He has made me, My garment was dirty and stained with sin but thank God I’m been washed in the Blood. Born of God, a child of God, All granted to me by His sweet loving Grace. I am rich even though I’m poor of this world. I’m happy as can be, from sin set free! Praise God, what a Father, He is! I love Him so much! Yes, STL, Sinless. If you are not saved, then you need a washing in the Blood.

          • STL, did you ever hear of a broken record??? Forgive and forget? That is what God did for us, why shouldn’t we do the same?????

        • Amen Ron~~! God never lies, neither is he confused! Neither does he go by what a man thinks!!!

  • Ron: Please, I beg you also prove Paul Kidd testimony being completely wrong by using scriptures?

    • STL I refuse to read all that none sense. I proved enough of it wrong with scriptures, that will have to do. Let him ask one at a time if he’s willing.

      • Ron: Like always your voicing your opinions, there no proveth in your statements, all hear-say from you.

        Since your on a roll out of the gates, why do not you prove NTEB are liars also, as they believe in the Pre-Tribulation?

  • NOTICE TO EVERYONE: Please keep your comments a REASONABLE length. Copying and pasting 2 or 3 pages of the bible is NOT acceptable comment posting. Also, anti-semitic comments are STILL not allowed. All people posting anti-semitic comments will be banned. Lastly, no personal attacks, those posters will be banned as well. No exceptions. Thank you – NTEB Staff 🙂

    • NTEB, a reasonable request, I will try to hold my comments back as much as possible. Thank you, for your patience and your hospitality. May God enrich your understanding and wisdom.

      • Ron: How can you say, that you will hold your comments back as much as possible, you have said many time that NTEB Staff are liars about the Pre-Tribulation.

        Would not that prove your lieing again?

        • I pray God delivers you from your cage, STL. You love being rude to God’s people! You will answer some day.

  • Ron: Your saying your sinless, so you have not committed any sins since the Holy spirit has entered you?

    • No, STL, I did not say that, I said I’m sin free. If I sin I have an advocate with the Father, that judges sin. I have Jesus to make me hole again. He cleanses my stained garment once again, making me sin free once again.

    • we have been thru that chapter over and over and nothing changes so can you not do it again? 🙂

    • @STL bla, bla bla bla broken record trying to play again, and again…it is getting really old Steven!!!

  • The time of Jacob’s Troubles doesn’t start until the great and mighty “mystery” nation, the daughter of Babylon, is destroyed. As long as Babylon, the world’s policeman (hammer of the world) remains, the anti-christ can’t come to power.
    The rapture doesn’t come until the end of the time of Jacob’s Troubles, immediately before God’s wrath is unleashed on the world.

    • Well, what you said about Babylon is not correct, but the timing of the rapture is. Babylon is the great city that the antichrist will rule from once the tribulation begins. That city will be compassed about with armies and the abomination of desolation will take place in it. She will become a desolate wilderness full of unclean spirits and void of God’s word, a famine of his word. Only the two prophets will be teaching in that city, the wilderness. Only the 144000 will receive it. Fed in the wilderness, were God has prepared a place for them, in the city, the harlot of desolation, the wilderness. The holy city that turned their back on God and took another to guide her, the antichrist, the beast she rides upon. Because of her witchcraft, she has welcomed into her, she has become the harlot, that once was God’s pride and joy, His estranged wife, Mystery Babylon. Sodom and Egypt is her spiritual names, where our Lord was crucifies. The two prophets will die in her streets and be resurrected just after the tribulation, their 42 month given to them to testify. At that point the rapture will also take place as told by Jesus in Matthew 24, just after tribulation of those days. Rev. 11:13 The same hour a great earthquake, matches power of the heavens shaking and Rev. 6:12-13 This is the rapture of Matthew 24, and Rev. 14:14-16. Yes, at the end of Jacob’s troubles.

  • Enrolling in Obamacare allows government to link your IP address with your name, social security number, bank accounts and web surfing habits

    Thursday, October 10, 2013
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
    Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles…)
    Tags: Obamacare, private details, Trojan Horse

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    (NaturalNews) We have already established that Healthcare.gov is not a functioning database application that allows people to shop for competing health plans. It is actually a government-run Trojan Horse that suckers people into creating accounts where they hand over:

    • Name and address
    • Email address and password
    • Social security number
    • Private bank account details
    • Employer details and other information

    During the enrollment process, your computer also hands over your IP address which is then tied to your social security number.

    This IP address is then handed over to the NSA thanks to its new mega-black-hole data center in Utah, where your IP is cross-referenced with all website visits, including:

    • “Anti-government” websites
    • Porn sites
    • Gambling sites
    • File sharing sites
    • “Terrorism” support sites
    • Encryption service sites like Hushmail
    • Chat rooms, message boards and more

    Armed with this information, the NSA can then link your seemingly-anonymous online chats, comments and posts with your social security number. Linguistic algorithms can “score” your online posts to create red flags that call for additional investigations of anyone using words like “liberty” or “patriot.”

    This information can then be turned over to law enforcement, as is found in the fine print of the Maryland Obamacare exchange, which states:

    …we may share information provided in your application with the appropriate authorities for law enforcement and audit activities.

    Thus, by enrolling in Obamacare, you are voluntarily surveilling yourself and handing over the data to the government while also AGREEING to terms of self-incrimination.

    Ponder the implications of this for a moment…

    Obamacare is actually a self-incrimination surveillance program designed to ensnare the American people in a devil’s contract
    Obamacare is the meta-level con of tricking Americans into thinking they’re signing up for free health insurance when, in reality, the website primarily exists to scrape personal financial details, passwords, emails and social security numbers from Americans who will later be targeted by the government itself.

    All the emails registered with Healthcare.gov, for example, will likely be used by the Obama administration to spam people with political propaganda or contrived “terror alerts” that use fear to concentrate more power in the hands of government.

    All the financial data will be turned over to the IRS for criminal investigations of Americans who are suspected of under-reporting their incomes (or supporting “patriot” groups with financial donations).

    All the passwords used on Healthcare.gov will be turned over to the NSA and matched up with individual IP addresses so that NSA operatives can hack into private bank accounts, encrypted email accounts and other private data, based on the assumption that most users use identical passwords across all the websites they commonly access. (A person’s password under Obamacare probably has a 50% chance of also working for their online banking. And since the NSA has your social security number, it’s a no-brainer to match up your online surfing habits with your phone number, home address, investment holdings, tax returns, international travel history and so on.)

    In essence, Obamacare allows the government to gather a goldmine of private data that can be exploited to target, punish, incriminate, blackmail or steal from any desired target.

    As this is a federal government that believes it now has total power to do anything it wants without limit, there are no boundaries of what it might do with this data. Remember, Obama is the president who literally maintains “kill lists” of Americans to have terminated. This is openly admitted and confirmed. The Obama administration also believes it can bypass Congress and simply create new law by executive order, concentrating all power into its own hands with no regard for the separation of power upon which this nation was founded.

    As is common with tyrants, the Obama administration truly believes the People have no right to privacy, no right to due process, no right to representation in government and no right to determine your own engagement in commerce. This is why Obama is playing such hardball to shove Obamacare down everybody’s throats: the government desperately needs to gather all this surveillance data so that it can leverage it to blackmail members of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Senate, the House, and even federal judges. Blackmail is essential to maintaining power in a corrupt society. And Healthcare.gov is the portal for scraping passwords, IP addresses and even financial details from anyone gullible enough to actually hand this over to government (i.e. democrats).

    As far as I’m concerned, the IRS can fine me all they want. I’m never voluntarily enrolling in Obamacare, even if you put a gun to my head like Obama is doing to the entire nation right now with this insane, contrived government shutdown that treats our own veterans like dirt.

    All dignity is now gone from the Obama administration. Zero credibility remains. The government has all but openly declared war on the People and is actively using tricks like Healthcare.gov to coerce people into incriminating themselves. The Obama administration is out of control and a grave danger to society. It must be lawfully stopped from damaging America any further.

    Now is the time to seriously discuss impeachment, not just of the President but of every U.S. Senator and House member who voted for this unconstitutional, “Trojan Horse” health care system that’s destroying America’s economy and wasting an unprecedented amount of time, money and effort. End Obamacare now and restore dignity and justice to America.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/042427_Obamacare_private_details_Trojan_Horse.html#ixzz2hKfc1KHj

  • I said this would happen

    Godfrey | October 10, 2013 at 1:29 pm | Categories: breaking news | URL: http://wp.me/p2GyEB-3IZ

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