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Laodicean Christian Sellout Amy Grant Glories In Her LGBT Fan Base

During her first gay press interview, the Grammy winner reflected on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, and her “compassion” for gay marriage.

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You know what’s so interesting, even when I was discovering my own sexuality and meeting people that had a different experience, I didn’t categorize then, and I don’t categorize right now.

Amy Grant loves receiving adoration, praise and financial reward from the lost and dying who attend her shows. She states that “it’s a honor” to perform at gay weddings. And never once does she open her mouth to tell her lost fans that without Jesus Christ they are on their way to Hell. This interview here, her first ever to the gay press, was an excellent opportunity to tell them about salvation in Jesus. She never mentions the Lord’s name one time. I wonder how that will play out at the Judgment Seat of Christ?

“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” 1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV)

PrideSource – During her first gay press interview, and for an entire hour, the Grammy winner reflected – with her usual sincerity and thoughtfulness – on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, her “compassion” for gay marriage and the unforgettable dinner she shared with out ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero.

When the biggest Christian music artist of all time is doing gay press, you know we’ve come a long way. Were you kept at bay from gay press beforehand, earlier in your career?

It never came up.

But you have obviously had a big gay following for quite sometime. Why have gay people connected to you in such profound ways?

All of us sometimes feel disenfranchised or, for whatever reason, like we’re just on the periphery or marginalized. People feel that for all kinds of reasons, and by the time you’ve lived any amount of life, I think anybody has had that experience somewhere. I remember doing concerts back in the early ’80s and going shopping with some of the singers that I was working with and one of them, Donna McElroy, had to get some makeup – and she’s African-American – and I said, “Hey, I’ll meet you back here.” I ran my errands and I came back and said, “Are you done?” She said, “No one’s waited on me.”

Christian singer Amy Grant happily receives the praise, adoration and financial benefits of her LGBT fan base, but she doesn’t have the guts to tell them that they are lost and headed to a Devil’s Hell.

Everybody is outside of some circle, but what I’ve always wanted to do is have a message of honesty and welcoming, and being willing to say this is the good, bad and the ugly. This is who I am. And if I’m saying that about myself, it’s like, jump in, the water’s fine. So I love that. I love that people connect to my music.

At this point in your career, are you at all concerned about people passing judgment on you for talking to gay press?

We all ultimately need to know that we’re loved, and I think it would be really crazy if you said, “I’m not going to talk to this group of people because someone’s looking on that’s not a part of the conversation and might have an opinion about it.” I mean, my whole life has been that. (Laughs) It takes all of our energy to navigate whatever road we’re on. What’s interesting is, this last year I was invited on Monday mornings to go to a woman’s house – also a songwriter, also a singer – and just have some time of quiet stillness all together. But her house wasn’t even quiet. There were workers there sometimes, or there was nowhere to get that was quiet.

As we were sitting there trying to get quiet, she said, “It never gets still, and so I’m not gonna get all rankled in my head. I’m just gonna say, ‘Well, there’s the noise of the person next door blowing off their driveway with that really load motor. There it is. There’s the sound of sirens going up and down the street.'” She said, “When we learn to observe without judgment, then we have the ability to observe and learn, or to observe and be.” And I said, “Do you know how exhausting it is to observe with judgment all the time? It’s just exhausting.” I have thanked her many times. We could all stand to hear that.

You came from a fairly strict religious upbringing, but it sounds like there’s been an evolution in the way you see people.

Well, I don’t know. When you say strict, that’s interesting. What do you mean by that? (Laughs) I mean, we went to church every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night.

You’re right. I should say diligently religious.

Yeah. I remember when we moved to Texas and my parents went to this really, I guess, conservative church – a Church of Christ – and something incredible was happening within that church community. I remember seeing this transformation in my mom and dad. I was old enough to remember that. What I remember about our home after that was that it was welcoming … to everybody.

To black people? To gay people?

Just to people.

Did you ever feel that you had to reconcile your Christian faith with your acceptance of homosexuality?

That’s not my life experience. In the same way, if you put my shoes on, you would go, “I thought this experience was going to be one way and it was totally different.” None of us has any idea what somebody’s life experience is like.

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Do you remember the first gay person you knew? Did you have a close gay friend?

Absolutely. But my first: maybe college. Someone might have just seemed theatrical or, I don’t know, effeminate, but when I was in high school – I graduated in ’78 – I had friends in high school who eventually said, “I’m living a gay lifestyle,” but they didn’t say it then. People were very private about their sexuality, period. Maybe not everywhere, but I just don’t remember, “I’m exploring this, I’m exploring that.”

When did you first know you had a gay fan base?

Probably by the time I was 18.

How did you know? Did a fan tell you his or her coming-out story?

No. Just from meeting people. I don’t know. I guess I’m kind of going, that was a long time ago. I’m 52. (Laughs) I’ve never even thought about it. It’s like saying, “There’s gray-haired people in the crowd, too.” If people come to my shows, this is what they say: “Wow, there are people of all ages and lifestyles in your crowd.” That’s what they always say. But then someone will come up and say, “You know, I saw a guy with a boa on,” and I’ll say, “Oh yeah, yeah, I’ve always had a big gay following.” (Laughs)

To me, I don’t give it a second thought. I remember the first time someone from the crew said, “I smell pot in the back of the crowd,” and I went, “Well, fantastic! Yay!” I’m so glad that just “people” are coming.

From photos I’ve seen and conversations I’ve heard, you seem to have established some close relationships with people in the Gay Friends of Amy Grant group on Facebook over the years. Can you describe your relationship with them?

When you’ve done something for a long time, there is a great familiarity that comes over the years. I will say that I have a couple of friends that I made – just because they came to shows for a long time – and I figure we must have some things in common because, of all the music we’re all attracted to, at least we share this music in common.

Weren’t you invited to perform at the wedding of one of your gay fans but couldn’t due to your schedule?

I was invited. I was honored to be invited. I have to tell you: Anytime somebody asks me to perform at a wedding, I say, “I do not have a good track record.” (Laughs) A lot of the weddings I’ve performed at, the marriages have ended poorly.

I recall seeing you perform with Melissa Etheridge for Lifetime’s “Women Rock!” special in 2000 and thinking, as a teenager struggling with his sexuality, “She’s performing with an openly lesbian performer; she’s throwing her gay fans a bone.”

You know what’s so interesting, even when I was discovering my own sexuality and meeting people that had a different experience, I didn’t categorize then, and I don’t categorize right now. It makes me realize that I don’t have any idea of what it would feel like every moment of my life to go somewhere and feel judged.

But you have felt judged, right? Judged for getting divorced. Judged for your pop crossover, even.

No, no. Do people from a distance have an opinion? Yeah, that’s human nature to have an opinion. Whatever was going on in a rag magazine, or whatever someone was saying behind my back or in a heated conversation, I was never in that circle. I wasn’t part of that conversation. I never, ever pursued one chat room. If there was an article or some argument – “I can’t believe you’re doing this” – I just never pursued it because I thought, “We don’t understand each other.”

There are a lot of times that I wind up in situations that I do not see eye to eye with somebody. And it doesn’t help to throw gas on the fire. Clearly they’re going to have their opinion. Carry on. And I’m gonna go do what I’m gonna go do.

I know you are not a political person.

Yeah, I’m not.

So how do you respond to people when they ask you about your feelings on gay marriage?

In the same way that I did not tell one person who I voted for. I don’t. I never talk about anything like that. I did tell Vince (Gill, her husband) the day after the election. (Laughs)

But I think my response is, I have had so many occasions in my life where I have felt really strongly about something – but that feeling has changed. Those feelings change about different situations, and so because I’m a public person – and because I want always to bring people together – I really do say this is a world that’s unfamiliar to me and I am always trying to observe with compassion.

This isn’t a cut-and-dry issue for you, then.

Well, nothing is cut-and-dry. You know, one of the most fascinating dinners I’ve ever spent sitting next to somebody I had not met was at a large function with my family. We were all seated with place cards; it was a large group and I introduced myself to the fellow next to me. It was Anthony Romero (executive director of the ACLU). I mean, we didn’t line up our views; I just said, “Oh my goodness.” And he said, “I think they probably thought this was going to be very funny having us sit next to each other.” (Laughs)

I just said, “Tell me about your life.” He asked me the same thing. He told me good things about his job and hard things about his job. It was two human beings that have had very different lifestyles sitting next to each other and sharing life. Given 10 choices, would Anthony and I choose the same things? Maybe so. Maybe not. But I felt so changed by that. And what I really felt was, well … I … (pauses)

What did you feel?

Well, I kept his card for a long time, and I hoped that our paths would cross again. I felt a lot of compassion for his parents, first-generation immigrants, and he described his childhood and what it was like. I went, “This makes total sense that he has invested his life coming to the aid of the people in his world that are disenfranchised because, for a whole different set of reasons, his parents were marginalized.”

And you found that inspiring?

Yes. You know what, we all face challenges in our life that we didn’t anticipate, and the most important thing is that we not face them alone. To me, if there’s anything that comes out of this conversation, in the same way that a relationship cannot be nurturing if it’s competitive, it’s this: When you don’t understand something, you can either default to judgment or you can default to compassion. Those take you down completely different roads.

Are you speaking about yourself?

Yeah, and that’s really … ahh, I’m just talking about life in general. This is interesting because I have never done an interview where it feels every question is saying, “Tell me I’m OK.” That’s what feels like the underlying energy behind the questions, and I’m just going, “That’s a powerful kind of energy” – and for different reasons. Maybe not sexuality. Because that’s what every person’s crying out for. Anyway, sometimes a good night’s sleep helps for more concise answers.

It’s just that we’re living lives that are different from each other. It’s like two people sitting at a dinner table having a long conversation. If you and I were facing each other at a different table and we walked away and somebody asked us to describe where we were, my entire view was behind your head. I mean, I’m gonna describe the place differently than you. That’s just true about all of life and really, I’m trying to listen and learn and in a way have a great opportunity to try to understand the fan base that comes to a show. I’m even more glad they feel welcome. Even more glad after this. Can I say one thing?

Of course.

I know that the religious community has not been very welcoming, but I just want to stress that the journey of faith brings us into community, but it’s really about one relationship. The journey of faith is just being willing and open to have a relationship with God. And everybody is welcome. Everybody. source – PrideSource

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Five Thousand Years Ago, Did Someone Carve The Stargazer Figurine To Permanently Memorialize A Visit With Alien Beings From Outer Space?

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Could The Five Thousand-Year-Old Stargazer Be An Ancient Portrait Of Alien Visitors Who Descended From The Heavens And Were Worshipped By Early Civilizations As Gods?

What if the face we have come to associate with space aliens is not a modern invention at all? What if it is a memory? Carved from white marble thousands of years ago, the mysterious figure known as The Stargazer possesses one of the most immediately recognizable silhouettes imaginable: an enormous hairless head, a long narrow neck, a small angular body and a face that looks startlingly similar to modern depictions of extraterrestrial visitors.

“And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.” Zechariah 5:2 (KJB)

The Cleveland Museum of Art dates its Stargazer to approximately 3000 BC and identifies it as a female figure from ancient Anatolia. The deeply incised pubic triangle identifies the figure as female, but everything above the waist looks strikingly unlike an ordinary human being. Its maker deliberately exaggerated the head, minimized the body and tilted the face upward toward the heavens. That upward gaze gave the figure its modern name, but it may also contain the key to its ancient identity. The Stargazer appears to be looking toward the place from which its subject came. Similar figures belong to what archaeologists call the Kilia type, named after the Turkish village where examples were discovered. Archaeological work at Kulaksızlar in western Anatolia uncovered evidence that these strange marble figures were being manufactured between approximately 4500 and 4250 BC. That places the tradition long before the great monuments of dynastic Egypt and deep within the shadowy opening chapters of recorded human civilization. Imagine what that possibility means.

Thousands of years before science-fiction movies, television programs, flying-saucer magazines or alleged alien-abduction accounts, ancient craftsmen were carving pale, hairless humanoids with oversized heads, elongated necks and strange faces. The resemblance to the beings now called “Greys” is not hidden in some obscure detail. It is the first thing the modern observer notices. Perhaps the familiar alien image was not invented in the twentieth century. Perhaps it was rediscovered.

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Ancient artists did not always create fantasy. They also recorded kings, warriors, animals, gods and important events from the world around them. If early people encountered beings descending from the sky, they would not have possessed words such as “extraterrestrial,” “interdimensional” or “advanced nonhuman intelligence.” They would have called them gods, messengers or visitors from the heavens. They would have feared them. They would have obeyed them. They may even have worshipped them. The Stargazer could represent one of those visitors.

Its tiny body and enormous head suggest a being whose intelligence, rather than physical strength, was its defining characteristic. Its upward-turned face connects it visually with the sky. Its female form may indicate that these beings appeared in more than one sex—or that the ancient sculptor was representing a particular visitor remembered by the surrounding community. Most intriguing of all, these figures were apparently important enough to be reproduced, transported and deliberately preserved. This was not a momentary doodle scratched into a wall. Marble required labor, skill and purpose. Whoever carved The Stargazer intended its likeness to survive. And survive it did.

The modern world looks at this ancient face and immediately sees an alien because, on some deep cultural level, we already recognize the form. That recognition raises an extraordinary possibility: humanity may have encountered such beings before, and the strange visitors appearing in modern UFO accounts may be returning actors in a drama that began near the dawn of civilization. The King James Bible provides a framework for understanding how such encounters could occur. Scripture never teaches that human beings are the only intelligent creatures in existence. It describes angels, cherubim, principalities, powers, spiritual rulers and sons of God operating beyond the ordinary human realm.

Some could appear so completely human that their true identity remained hidden.

“Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.” Hebrews 13:2 (KJB)

Genesis records something even more astonishing. Before the Flood, beings identified as the sons of God entered the human world and produced offspring with the daughters of men:

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” Genesis 6:4 (KJB)

The Bible therefore presents direct interaction between human beings and nonhuman intelligences as historical reality. It describes a populated supernatural realm capable of entering, influencing and even physically interfering with conditions upon the earth. What modern culture calls “outer space,” the Bible calls the heavens and high places.

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12 (KJB)

If beings descended from those high places in antiquity, early civilizations would naturally have interpreted them as gods. Their knowledge would have appeared supernatural. Their ability to travel through the heavens would have looked divine. Their arrival could have given birth to entire systems of idolatry built around the worship of beings that were powerful, ancient and nonhuman—but were not God. The Stargazer may be the preserved face of one of those beings.

That possibility also casts the modern UFO phenomenon in a radically different light. Perhaps humanity is not approaching its first contact with intelligent visitors. Perhaps we are being prepared for renewed contact with beings that have interacted with mankind before. Their return could be presented as the greatest revelation in human history. They may claim to have created mankind, guided ancient civilizations, inspired world religions and returned at this decisive moment to lead humanity into its next stage of evolution. The world would fall at their feet almost overnight.

The Bible warns that supernatural appearance is not proof of divine authority:

“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” 2 Corinthians 11:14 (KJB)

The apostle Paul went even further, warning Christians to reject any messenger from heaven who attempts to replace the gospel of Jesus Christ:

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8 (KJB)

The Stargazer may therefore be far more than an enigmatic piece of prehistoric art. It may represent an ancient encounter, a visitor from the heavens and the face of a being remembered as a god by people who possessed no other language with which to describe it. Its head is turned upward. Its eyes are fixed upon the heavens. Its strange body resembles the alien visitors of modern imagination with uncanny precision. Perhaps The Stargazer was never looking at the stars, perhaps it was looking home.

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Donald Trump Didn’t Finish The Job As Iran’s IRGC Boasts That Surviving America’s Attacks Has Opened The Door For Islam To Rise Up And Rule The World

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President Trump started a war with Iran that remains wholly unfinished, and that is allowing Tehran to turn defeat into a resounding victory that is energizing them

The fact that Iran’s top military commander Ahmad Vahidi can stand before the Islamic world and boast that Tehran has brought the United States “to its knees” tells you everything you need to know about President Trump’s claim that America had “finished the job.” The job was not finished. Iran was hit, Iran was damaged and Iran was bloodied, but the Islamic regime was left standing—and now it is transforming survival into victory. President Trump has put America in a very dangerous position by not eliminating the Iranian regime, and it is already coming back to haunt him.

“And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” Zechariah 14:9 (KJB)

Ahmad Vahidi is not speaking like the commander of a defeated nation, he is speaking like the leader of an emboldened Islamic revolution. He is openly declaring that Iran’s battlefield performance proves “Islam can be made to rule the world.” Those are not the words of a government that has been neutralized. Those are the words of a regime that believes it endured America’s best shot and lived to continue the war. Trump attacked Iran’s military machinery but left the revolutionary engine running. The IRGC still commands, the missiles are still flying, and the Strait of Hormuz remains a battlefield. American forces and Gulf infrastructure remain under attack. Tehran’s Islamic leadership remains in power, issuing threats, preaching conquest and promising the arrival of worldwide Islamic government. That is not mission accomplished, that’s an unfinished war.

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Iran does not need to defeat the United States conventionally to claim victory. It only needs to survive. Every additional day the regime remains standing allows Tehran to tell the Muslim world that the Great Satan attacked with everything it had and failed to destroy the Islamic Republic. Vahidi is already turning that survival into a recruiting message for jihadists, militias and Islamic revolutionaries around the world. This is the price of fighting a war halfway. Infrastructure can be rebuilt. Missile launchers can be replaced. Nuclear facilities can be reconstructed underground. Commanders can be promoted to replace those who were killed. As long as the Islamic regime and the IRGC remain intact, the threat remains intact. From a military persepctive, that spells potential disaster for America.

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Iran’s leaders are not hiding their objective, they are proclaiming it before the entire world. Islamic rule, Islamic conquest and the overthrow of the existing world order. Tehran believes this war has opened the gates for a global Islamic uprising. America’s political leaders should listen carefully, because Iran is telling us exactly what it intends to do. Trump did not finish the job, he postponed the next phase of it. Iran will rebuild, rearm and return unless the Islamic Republic is permanently dismantled. Anything less merely gives Tehran time to prepare for the next round while presenting its survival as proof that Allah has delivered America into its hands. President Trump, do your job and finish this war with military victory. Anything less is unacceptable, and unAmerican.

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THE PROPHECY NEWS PODCAST: Flock Safety Cameras Are Building a Nationwide Surveillance Grid And American Citizens Have Begun To Fight Back

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Flock Safety Cameras Are Building a Nationwide Surveillance Grid That Tracks Innocent Americans While Government Sells Mass Monitoring as Public Safety and Protection

Flock Safety tells Americans that its cameras are about stolen cars, missing children and public safety, but the system records every passing vehicle whether the driver is suspected of a crime or not. Your license plate, vehicle description, location, direction and time of travel are captured, stored and made searchable across a growing network of police departments and government agencies. That is not simply a camera watching an intersection—it is a digital memory capable of reconstructing where ordinary citizens go, when they go there and how often they return. Public safety may be the sales pitch, but mass collection is the product.

“The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.” Proverbs 15:3 (KJB)

On this episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, the most dangerous part of this system is not what a trustworthy sheriff might do with it today, but what an unaccountable government could do with it tomorrow. Databases built to find car thieves can just as easily identify people attending churches, political rallies, gun shows, medical offices or protests during the next manufactured emergency. Flock cameras are not the mark of the beast, and Bible believers should not confuse modern surveillance technology with the literal fulfillment of Revelation 13. But they are helping construct the culture and infrastructure the coming beast system will require: universal observation, centralized information, artificial-intelligence profiling and a population trained to surrender privacy whenever the government whispers the word “safety.” This is how freedom disappears—not always through soldiers in the streets, but through cameras on poles, databases in the cloud and citizens who insist they have nothing to hide. The issue is not whether these cameras can solve crimes; the issue is whether every innocent American should be tracked like a potential suspect without a warrant, public consent or meaningful accountability. Demand strict limits, short retention periods, transparent audits, real penalties for abuse and judicial oversight before this surveillance grid becomes too large to restrain. The camera may not be the beast, but the Beast architecture is being assembled one pole, one database and one emergency at a time. The Countdown continues toward the rise of the New World Order.

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