The King James AV 1611 Bible vs. The New International Version

Decide for yourself. Just remember that God promises to curse those who mess with the word He wrote. Pray the Holy Spirit to show you the truth.
king-james-1611-av-authorized-version-holy-bible-versus-new-international

It is said by many that the New International Version bible is just the same as the King James, but just easier to read and in more “modern” english. Is that so, or is it something very different from the King James? Rather than getting into a long and complicated argument about it, let me just show you a simple, side-by-side comparison chart of a few verses from the KJV, with their counterpart from the NIV. What this will show you is that the people who created the NIV are in direct violation of Revelation 22 which says –

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18,19 (KJV)

So with that, let’s compare the KJV and the NIV side-by-side, and you be the judge. The words which appear in bold on the KJV side of the chart are words and phrases that have been removed from the NIV.

King James Version – KJV
New International Version – NIV
Why did Jesus come to earth?
Luke 9:56
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
Matt. 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
Luke 9:56
and they went to another village.
Matt. 18:11
(missing)
Is repentance important?
Matt. 9:13
…I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Matt. 9:13
…I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
For whom did Jesus die?
I Cor. 5:7
…Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
I Cor. 5:7
…Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.
In Whom must you believe to be saved?
John 6:47
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 6:47
I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life.
Was Joseph really the father of Jesus?
Luke 2:33
And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.
Luke 2:33
The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him.
Did Jesus give His disciples power to heal?
Mark 3:15
…power to heal sickness, and to cast out devils.
Mark 3:15
…authority to drive out demons.
If it’s hard to do, should we just remove it?
Mark 11:26
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Mark 11:26
(missing)
Who is in charge?
I Cor. 10:28
…for the earth is the Lord’s and the fulness thereof:
I Cor. 10:28
(last part of verse missing)
How must we deal with our enemies?
Matt. 5:44
…Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
Matt. 5:44
…Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.
Where did Jesus go?
John 16:16
A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
John 16:16
In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me.
Is it John or the Devil?
Revelation 13:1
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Revelation 13:1
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

Question: Aren’t some of these things included in the NIV in the footnotes?

Answer: That is not the same as including them in the text. When a young Christian sees these passages have been moved to the footnotes, he or she will assume that they are probably not really part of God’s Word. After all, the translators did not include them in the text, but simply implied that “some” manuscripts include them. What they are not told is that the vast majority of texts used by the early church included these words. They are God’s Words!

The above chart shows 10 or 12 examples of how the NIV has removed the words from the word of God. Do YOU want a bible that cuts out the holiness of God, removes lots of the promises, and in some cases just deletes the verse altogether?

Or do you want the true, pure words that God Himself wrote? Because there is power on in those words, and not in the weak, powerless words of man.

Decide for yourself. Just remember that God promises to curse those who mess with the word He wrote. Pray the Holy Spirit to show you the truth. But in closing, let me just direct your attention to the following verse and mediate on what God has to say about the “word of a king”. Hmm…

“Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?” Ecclesiastes 8:4 (KJV)

 

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  • Tusitala

    Many of you know that I was what is referred to as a “cradle Catholic” . As such the Bible was simply put not in my life. The Roman church does not encourage or foster independent Bible reading, one must study under the guidance of a priest and only the Catholic Bible. One thing was made more than abundantly clear to me: the King James Bible was anathema, forbidden. I still hear it reviled and despised by Catholics, in fact. As years went on, the hunger for the Lord increased within me. I turned to paganism, the occult, eastern mysticism. I was an astrologer and tarot card reader, and a successful one. Satan lured me through pride, he whispered, once again, ” Yea, hath God said…” and I listened, I followed. My life spiraled into despair, an abusive marriage, substance addiction, such terrible sorrow. I returned to the Catholic church, but I had the same gnawing pain. Then I met a Christian woman at work, I am talking a deep south, Bible-believing lady, and we became friends. I used to listen with such wistfulness to her talking about Jesus, she spoke of Him so intimately, and the Bible, she got so much from it. It was enthralling, but depressing. I picked up the NIV, the Living Bible, all of it was dead, just confusing. It was strange and empty. The one version I NEVER tried was the King James, my Catholic upbringing was so strong on that point. Finally, I started to study the history of the Roman Catholic Church, I mean the REAL history. I was absolutely devastated by the filth, the torture, desecrations, slaughters of innocents, the persecutions, I had had no idea. Thus I discovered the truth about how men had been burned, beaten, broken on the rack, for translating the Bible so that people could actually read it for themselves because the Roman church knew that once people knew the TRUTH of God’s inerrant Word, their tyranny was over. I went back to my friend, and she said, ” You have to get you a Holy Bible, a King James. ” I bought a 1611 King James Authorized Bible. Now, I thought, this is it ! But nothing of spiritual substance was different. It was beautiful, lyrical, but I was still on the outside looking in. Dear Lord, am I just lost forever. Then, I started listening to a pastor on YouTube, a King James only, independent Baptist man. I experienced a life-changing moment after one message on hell. I remember thinking, this is for your eternal destiny, it is not a game. I cried for hours. Then, I asked Jesus into my heart, I was born again, washed in the Blood and I did what the pastor said, I asked the Holy Spirit to help me understand the Word of God. I was going to keep praying until I got it, I was too tired and too angry at myself for all my pride and stubbornness all those years, I was done. I picked up that incredible Bible, and I started to read it, and it was like the scales fell from my eyes, I was reading with comprehension, it was instantaneous, miraculous, and I still cannot believe it happened to me. I was afraid to put the Bible down, I stared to shake and cry, I thought, what if this is just a fluke and I close it and that is the end of it, I was terrified. But that has never happened of course. I took as my life verse Psalm 119:18, “Open thou mine eyes that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.” Jesus has opened my eyes, He still performs miracles, He still saves, He is still among us. He still speaks through His masterful Word in the King James Bible. There is no substitute for the Truth. I have tried to read the other versions, they are still empty and lifeless, but the deep, abiding Light pours forth every time I open the covers of that blessed book, the KJV. People say we worship the King James. No, we only do what it says in the Bible ” I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou has magnified thy word above all thy name.” Psalm 138: 2 if it is good enough for the Lord God, it is good enough for me.

    • Geoffrey Grider

      Amen, what a GREAT testimony!! When I got saved in 1990, I had no idea there was even a Bible debate, lol. But I sure found out quick, but you know what? I am not the world’s smartest person, but when the Lord lead me to read John 3:16 in the old, black-backed KJV my dad had “borrowed” from a hotel room years earlier, I believed what I read there and got saved!

      • Mr. Keever

        Get the definite guide on all things “new bibles” from Peter S. Ruckman, Gail Riplinger, and Sam Gibb. These people know the KJV verse other bibles issue incredibly well and are the “go to” Christians to learn from. David Hoffman is great too.

        • Andrew

          I think someone like a Dr. James White would pwn someone like Gibb or Riplinger on academic and logical integrity. Oh wait, Dr. White already did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVXjw4jd61M&list=PLEA0AA2BEC2638EB7

          • Mike J

            Dr James White rests on human reasoning, and the modern traditions (rooted in the garden) of naturalistic scholars (many of whom are theologically liberal at best). He has NO meaningful response to the main underlying issue of God’s promise of preservation, not to mention the vital importance of God’s word. You can choose to align your self with the wisdom of men, or the word of God. If you prefer modern versions with their myriad of inconsistencies and watered down, or missing doctrines (i.e., the doctrine of the faith OF Jesus Christ). More power to you. Sit down under a palm tree by the Nile and enjoy the “Message”. But after 25 years of reading the Alexandrian versions (nasb, esv & niv, ad nauseum) exclusively, I’m very blessed the Lord opened my eyes to the truth of the King James Bible.

            Here is a sound rebuttal to Dr. White’s book:

            http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-king-james-version-only-by-james.html

    • Donetta Ortenzio

      A beautiful testimony! “Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy.” – Psalm 107:2. Thank you for sharing.

    • Skywatcher

      Excellent and powerful testimony, my dear sister, Tusitala! Wow! Amazing! The sad part is that so many who use these counterfeit bibles are satisfied with them and will NOT consider the copious amounts of evidences against them! You keep up getting the Word out there!

      In John 14: 6, Jesus said, “I am the Way, the TRUTH, and the Life; no man comes to the Father but by me.” We cannot get to the Father if we have a neutered/doctored-up/manipulated Truth!

    • Lisa

      God bless you for searching! That’s what I believe the Lord wants from us. A true heart that really wants to seek & find HIM. He says when you seek me with all your heart you will find me. I thought I was saved when I was about 12. I never felt different and didn’t live like it. I was saved just 2.5 yrs ago at age 57. This time, I had a true conversion of mind & heart, with repentance! Like you, He opened my spiritual eyes and heart to Him and the Bible.

      • Bro.J

        Scientific Proof of the Bible
        The Bible is estimated to have been written between 1450 B.C. and 95 A.D. This chart shows scientific facts and principles referred to in this ancient Bible, but not actually discovered by humankind until later centuries. Dead sea scrolls, historical documentation, and word of mouth all confirm the authenticity of the Bible. Since people had no official knowledge of these scientific facts until more than a thousand years after the Bible was written, is this scientific proof that the Bible was inspired by God!

        Scientific Fact or Principle
        Bible reference

        Date of discovery by man 17th Century
        Both man and woman possess the seed of life
        Genesis 3:15

        There is a place void of stars in the North 19th Century

        Earth is held in place by invisible forces 1650
        Job 26:7

        Taxonomic classification of matter 1735
        Genesis 1

        The Earth is round 15th Century
        Isaiah 40:22

        Certain animals carry diseases harmful to man 16th Century
        Leviticus 11

        Early diagnosis of leprosy 17th Century
        Leviticus 13

        Quarantine for disease control 17th Century
        Leviticus 13

        Blood of animals carries diseases 17th Century
        Leviticus 17

        Blood is necessary for life 19th Century
        Leviticus 17:11

        Oceans have natural paths in them 1854
        Psalms 8:8

        Earth was in nebular form initially 1911
        Genesis 1:2

        Most seaworthy ship design ratio is 30:5:3 1860
        Genesis 6

        Light is a particle and has mass (a photon) 1945
        Job 38:19

        Radio astronomy (stars give off signals) 1945
        Job 38:7

        Oceans contain fresh water springs 1920
        Job 38:16

        Snow has material value 1905, 1966
        Job 38:22

        Infinite number of stars exist 1940
        Genesis 15:5

        Dust is important to survival 1935
        Isaiah 40:12

        Hubert Spencer’s scientific principles 1820
        Genesis 1

        Air has weight 16th Century
        Job 28:25

        Light can be split up into component colors 1650
        Job 38:24

        Matter is made up of invisible particles 20th Century
        Romans 1:20

        Plants use sunlight to manufacture food 1920
        Job 8:16

        Arcturus and other stars move through space 19th Century
        Job 38:32

        Water cycle
        Ecclesiastes 1:7 17th Century

        Life originated in the sea 19th Century
        Genesis 1

        Lightning and thunder are related 19th Century
        Job 38:25

        Human beings were the last living things created 15th Century
        Genesis 1

    • Bro. Nick

      Tusitala – Amen on a most powerful Biblically sound testimony of the faithfulness of “the Lord God Almighty” in the innerent preservation of “the words of the Lord” in the Holy Bible ~ KJV

      According to one source that I have found – by men’s ‘wisdom’ – as of Oct 2014 – there are 395+ different ‘versions – translations – paraphrases’ of “the word of the Lord” ~ the Holy Bible in the English language
      http://www.net-comber.com/bible-year.html

      How important are each and every word to “the Lord God Almighty”? It is written in “the word of the Lord” in Proverbs, Chapter 30 ~ KJV:
      [5] Every word of God is pure:
      he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
      [6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

      One example – Words ending with *eth ~ KJV – which means continued action – NOT just a ONE TIME OCCURRENCE
      *eth – an ending of the third person singular present indicative of verbs, now occurring only in archaic forms or used in solemn or poetic language: doeth or doth; hopeth; sitteth.
      – from – Dictionary.com @ http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/eth

      Old Testament = 3,662 Occurrences ~ in 2,663 Verses ~ in 732 Chapters ~ in 37 Books of 39 Books

      Obadiah = 0 | Jonah = 0

      New Testament = 1,423 Occurrences ~ in 998 Verses ~ in 239 Chapters ~ in all 27 Books

      The Holy Bible ~ KJV = 5,085 Occurrences in 4,086 Verses ~ in 971 Chapters ~ in 64 of 66 Books

      It is simple – how many truly “believeth” in faith, and “know the certainty of the words of truth” (Proverbs 22:21 ~ KJB) as they are clearly written in “the word of the Lord”, the Holy Bible ~ KJV?

      How many men follow other men – rather than having the desire that:
      “we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
      For our God is a consuming fire.”
      (Hebrews 12:28-29 ~ KJB)

      I am only a high school graduate – BUT – my personal choice as a “born again” “believeth” follower of my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” is that in “reverence and godly fear” of “the Lord God Almighty” I believe Him – for I know that:
      [5] Every word of God is pure:
      he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
      [6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
      (Proverbs, Chapter 30 ~ KJB)

      Please also read the Biblical WARNINGS about changing in any way that which is written in “the law of God” – for the Holy Bible is a book of law! Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32 | Ecclesiastes 3:14-15 | Jeremiah 26:2 | Galatians 3:15 | Revelation 22:18-19 ~ KJV
      .

    • marlene

      Thank you for a most wonderful comment and for sharing your valuable testimony. God bless you.

  • JT

    Doesn’t Revelation 22:18,19 only refer to Revelation? I’m not arguing that the KJV isn’t the better version, I’m already convinced that it is after seeing all the comparisons, studying the histories etc., but it only states and talks about “This” book of prophecy meaning Revelation only right?

    • Jimmy

      Read Proverbs 30:5-6 KJV

  • Dan

    Geoff direct violation of Rev 22 ? You understand that verse is pertaining only to the book of REV ;right.
    And you say that you don’t want to get into an argument about the differences of the 2 books which is a hoot because arguing is exactly what your doing . Geoff do you really believe GOD bothers with such nonsense as the differences which do nothing to the meaning of the passage. And besides if GOD were truly upset about this then we should be learning Aramaic and Hebrew so to read from the original books.

    Besides the the’s thous and doeth’s language of the KJV has to make GOD smile at his creations attempts to impress him.

    On a side note . Are you listening or reading the news about one Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky ? It gives me so much joy when someone of his stature proclaims the Messiah is at the door. The meaning of this is more important than our differences people.

    • Geoffrey Grider

      Oh, really? Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky is calling for the RETURN of Jesus of Nazareth?

    • Jimmy

      Read Proverbs 30:5-6 KJV

    • Skywatcher

      Dan, the theological differences the addition or omission of a word or phrase can make is of most vital importance! It can mean the difference between going to Heaven and going to Hell. Go on YouTube and listen to Gail Riplinger’s very powerful expose on this matter! She leaves no pages unturned because she takes God’s Word very seriously, and she also shows much more of the damning content than what Geoff did here! He merely touched the tip of the iceberg!

      As far as the old King James English being used as a tool to impress anybody, you’ve shown your absolute disdain and ignorance of history of our language. That’s how they spoke in 1611! They didn’t speak this way to merely impress anybody. And, for your information, if you were to look at English prior to that time, it was extremely hard to read sometimes. That’s why our language has evolved to its very degrading state it is today! Some in our “civilization” today, use words that those dear folk back then would have no earthly idea about, i.e. microscope, nanotechnology, pace maker, two-ply tires or toilet paper, etc. Do we use those words to impress or to get the job done?

      Geoffrey was exposing some very important truth here! It had nothing to do with causing an argument; you can’t argue with the truth!

    • Dan – Originals are NEVER the issue – it’s the Scriptures which are – Jesus read from the Scriptures, Paul had the Scriptures, Philip had the Scriptures, the Ethiopian Eunoch had the Scriptures – the Scriptures in the English language is the KJV – “Where the word of a king is, there is power” Ecc 8:4 KJV ONLY Bible translated by the edict of a king.

      • SR

        The king may have had his own interests in mind as well. However, I find Geneva and KJV very similar – encouraging.

  • Lee

    Just unbelievable. John 6:47 really spoke to me.

  • Lee

    Once I realized the errors, I purchased a King James Version. I have had a KJV Bible since I was saved in 1967. However, we had a fire and most of my belongings are still in storage. I love my King James Bible.

  • John Vandermill

    This article is full of bad information and is just wrong. Modern English translations put verses in footnotes when the translators are quite certain the verses didn’t exist. The question is more who added verses found in the KJV? They weren’t there in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts available to translate from. People need to check their facts. I found this official NIV site which debunks this whole article: http://thenivbible.com

    • Bro. Nick

      John Vandermill – You have chosen to question what is written in this article – as do many others that do not like that which is written in the Holy Bible ~ KJV – and you ‘prove’ your point from one article on the internet.
      We truly are living in the days of ‘the gospel of popular opinion’ – when nearly anyone can ‘prove’ nearly anything – for instance, did you know ‘that ‘god is dead’ – for there are approx. 202,000,000 results on ‘Google search’ to ‘prove’ it.

      According to one source that I have found – by men’s ‘wisdom’, as of Oct 2014 – there are 395+ different ‘versions – translations – paraphrases’ of “the word of the Lord” in the English language – including the ‘gender neutral’ ‘queen james’ and the ‘new niv’ – so everyone should be able to find a version that they like and fits their lifestyle.
      http://www.net-comber.com/bible-year.html

      Have you ever wondered why nearly all of the attacks are against the Holy Bible ~ KJV?
      Have you ever checked to find out how much money is being made by major companies everytime they come out with ‘the most accurate translation’ that is easier to read than anything now on the market – even though they do not say the same thing?

      It is simple – how very few there are that truly “believeth” in faith, and “know the certainty of the words of truth” (Proverbs 22:21) as they are clearly written in “the word of the Lord”, the Holy Bible ~ KJV? – and how many men follow what other men write or say – rather than having the desire that:
      “we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
      For our God is a consuming fire.”
      (Hebrews 12:28-29 ~ KJB)

      I am only a high school graduate – BUT – my personal choice as a “born again” “believeth” follower of my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” is that in “reverence and godly fear” of “the Lord God Almighty” I believe Him – for I know that:
      [5] Every word of God is pure:
      he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
      [6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
      .

    • THE SO-CALLED “TWO MOST RELIABLE MANUSCRIPTS “,SINAITICUS AND VATICANUS, ARE TWO FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS THAT WERE MANUFACTURED BY ROME. CHECK THE DOCUMENTARY “TARES AMOUNT WHEAT” AND YOU SEE THE REAL SOURCE OF THESE TWO UTTERLY FAKE MANUCRIPTS.

  • Larry/vietnamvet1971

    I quit reading & studying my NIV bible and only use the KJV or the New American Standard version.

  • Allan Rowley

    Now Geoffrey, go for the real truth! Fact: “J” was not in the English language 500 years ago, in other words pre KJV Bible.
    The names got changed by Constantine to Iesous which is from the Greek god Zeus.
    Constantine in the 3rd century changed the Hebrew Feasts to pagan feasts. Simple facts.

    • Paul Topham

      The feasts (Moads) I knew about, but Iesous! Now there’s something to ponder! I’ve for 10 years now preferred Yeshua (ha Mechiah).

      • His Name is Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. The SWEETEST Name I Know 🙂

        “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:10,11 (KJV)

        • Allan Rowley

          Geoffrey, this type of reply leads me to think you are mentally unstable. Are you interested in the salvation of mankind? I give you the facts or the truth and you denigrate the truth? The Messiah calls us to search for the Truth (Jn 8:32). The God of the Bible is a Holy God/Elohim. Yes, ignorance has allowed believers who called Him by a Greek god name into heaven but there is a cut off point if we have not passed it already. Who meets the Messiah in the air, the “elect, remnant and set apart” believers. The ones who deny self daily, trust and believe in Him deeply and who obey Him. Yahuweh’s love is conditional: John 14:15, 21, 23-24; Deuteronomy 5:29, 6:2; Proverbs 13:13. Without obedience to the covenant there is death, judgment, and separation.
          Obedience is faith in action. Yahuweh loves and cares for us as long as we keep His covenant and obey His commandments. In the millenium we will worship Him on the Sabbath (Saturday) and on Yahuweh’s Feasts.
          He is looking for believers who are striving for that holiness now.
          The Messiah is a Hebrew of the tribe of Judah (Rev 5:). Instead of showing arrogance or ignorance, humble yourself and either ask the Spirit to reveal the truth of His name Yahushua or check the Hebrew history.
          I am not in any cult, just humbly looking for Biblical truth. Yah is the family name common in both names.
          You do not need to know Hebrew to call Him by His Hebrew name. It is called Holy reverence.

          Bless the Biblical discerners.

          • Randall Hodge

            I don’t believe Jesus would want us to be dicks to each other. Geoffrey doesn’t sound unstable at all. He sounds like a guy with strong faith.

    • Geoffrey Grider

      LOL, no. Yes, the letter “J” did not exist 500 years ago or 2,000 years ago – BUT – neither did the entire English language! I do not speak Hebrew, or Greek, or Latin, but guess what? I serve a God that loves me so much He gave me a Bible in ENGLISH!

    • Amadea

      Nope. Jesus is the Anglicized version of the Greek translation of the Hebrew Yeshua. Nothing to do with Zeus. The Latin word for God, though, is Deus. Contemplate that! Also, the Hebrew Tetragrammaton Yod Hah Vav Hah (YHWH) is so scares to Jews that they won’t even attempt to pronounce it. When they are reading the Torah and come to the YHWH they translate it to Adonai or LORD. Yet the translators of the KJV had the audacity to translate the Sacred Name into Jehovah. Since Hebrew had no vowels, they had no right to make it say Jehovah, which is too close for comfort to the Roman Jove. The only truly dependable English translation is the Interlinear Bible which translates word order directly from the Hebrew (O.T.) and the Koine Greek (N.T.).

  • Jonathan

    This article has led me to unsubscribe from NTEB emails. I mistakenly thought these emails would help me better understand end time issues. Boy was I wrong! As an evangelical pastor, I’ve grown so weary of others who are SO sure (bordering on arrogantly sure!) that THEY are right on issues such as these that I can no longer waste my time getting distracted by things like this. To say that only the KJV is the “true pure words that God Himself wrote” is crazy and outlandish and has no biblical support. In fact , I will probably use that statement to help my congregation learn about the lengths that people will go to try and prove their point about the KJV as I teach them the truth that there are better translations than the KJV, while at the same time helping them understand and appreciate the beauty and the majesty of the KJV. I think I will just take my well-worn NIV or ESV Bible & go share the Gospel with some folks……sounds like a much better use of my time.

    • Geoffrey Grider

      So, Pastor Jonathan, are you telling us that you are NOT BOTHERED by the myriad mistakes in the NIV like those found in Revelation 13:1 where it calls John the Devil and in Mark 1:2,3 where the KJV says “prophets” because it is quoting from two DIFFERENT prophets and the erroneous NIV says “in Isaiah the prophet” which is an obvious mistake? What about the dozen or so discrepancies listed in this article. Why don’t those things bother you? If you really are a pastor, which is to say a shepherd, yet you allow your people to read the unreliable and untrustworthy NIV with no warning from you? Don’t be surprised when the wolves get your sheep…

      • Jonathan

        It’s simple. The “discrepancies” listed in this article are simply verse comparisons to the KJV only, not comparisons to better, more accurate manuscripts that have been discovered since the KJV was translated. So those “discrepancies” simply do not hold water.

        Now to a point I mentioned in my original reply: I would like for you to share the exact chapter & verse from the Bible (KJV will be fine) that gives clear, undeniable Scriptural support to your assertion that ONLY THE KJV contains the “pure true words that God Himself wrote.” To make that claim without absolute Biblical support borders on heresy. Your statement certainly would be closely akin to Deut. 4:2 – “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you…” if there is not clear, undeniable Scriptural support to that statement, in that you are saying that God has said something that He certainly has not said.

        Thanks.

        • Jonathan

          I just realized that you went back & altered your original response to my reply, adding the bold letters in the first statement & then making an insinuation that I’m not a pastor (“…if you really are a pastor…”). That saddens me that it look as though this discussion may denigrate into a personal attack instead of an honest discussion between brothers in Christ….unless you decide to question that too. Hope that doesn’t happen.

          • Geoffrey Grider

            Personal attack? You won’t get one from me. You say you’re a pastor, I believe you. Just tell me what kind of pastor allows his people to use a “bible” like the NIV that is riddled with errors and mistakes?

          • Jonathan

            Thanks for the clarification on the personal attack issue…. Was certainly hoping that wasn’t happening.

            As for the other question, I think I’ve already answered that one in saying that your assertion in the article that the NIV has “errors & mistakes” is based on your comparison w/ the KJV & not to older, more reliable manuscripts that have been discovered since the KJV was translated.

            Now back to my question about your statement that the KJV containing the “true pure words that God Himself wrote.” Any response to that yet? Chapter & verse?

          • Barten

            Gregory, Are you familiar with how Erasmus came up with the Textus Receptus from which the 1611 KJV was translated?

          • Jonathan

            Barten…I am not familiar with that….Would you please explain? May be helpful to this conversation…. Thanks!

          • Barten

            This article is profoundly helpful to those wanting a laymen’s explanation of how the KJV was translated from the Textus Receptus – the “received text.” It’s also helpful to know that the phrases “Majority Text” & “Byzantine Text” are referring to the same Greek manuscript collections.

            I am not an “NIV guy.” Nor am I a “KJV guy.” I am a “let’s read the Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek first to see as best as possible what the original manuscripts said – THEN let’s find the English (name your language here) translation that best translates what the original manuscripts most likely said without inserting too much interpretation, and let’s go with that!” guy.

            https://bible.org/article/majority-text-and-original-text-are-they-identical

          • Christian Gains

            Barten, ever heard of Dr. Michael Heiser? ( @ — drmsh.com ) You sound a lot like him…He’s an “Ancient Languages” Scholar, {Phd}, (but hasn’t lost his humility in the process). He’s REALLY BIG on teaching Hebrew, etc., and training folks to NOT accept the “interpretations” disguised as “Translations” Bibles. He suggests that the KJV is the best English Translation, (tho, by NO MEANS perfect), but, in the long run, “It’s what works BEST for YOU that counts”.

          • Jonathan

            Still waiting for a response on the “true pure words that God Himself wrote.” A statement of that magnitude & confidence needs strong support. Please share that with your readers. Thanks!

          • Jonathan

            ((crickets))

          • Jonathan

            Will check back later to see if there is any Scriptural response to my question regarding your statement that the KJV is the “pure true words that God Himself wrote.” Maybe tomorrow. A lack of response will surely be seen as a realization on your part that that statement has no biblical foundation & needs to be retracted with an apology to your readership. Thanks!

          • Bro. Nick

            Jonathan – I am not Brother Geoffrey – but it is written several times in “the word of the Lord”, the Holy Bible ~ KJV about the importance of WORDS:
            [6] THE WORDS of the LORD are PURE WORDS:
            as silver tried in a furnace of earth,
            purified seven times.
            [7] Thou shalt keep them, O LORD,
            thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
            [8] The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.
            (Psalms 12 ~ KJB)

            In Proverbs, Chapter 22 ~ KJV:
            [17] Bow down thine ear,
            ~ and hear THE WORDS of the wise,
            and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
            [18] For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee;
            they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
            ~ [19] THAT THY TRUST MAY BE IN THE LORD,
            I have made known to thee this day,
            even to thee.
            [20] Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
            ~ [21] THAT I MIGHT MAKE THEE KNOW THE CERTAINTY OF THE WORDS OF TRUTH;
            ~ that thou mightest answer THE WORDS OF TRUTH to them that send unto thee?

            In Proverbs, Chapter 30 ~ KJV:
            ~ [5] EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE:
            he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
            [6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

            One example of the importance of each and every WORD unto “the Lord God Almighty” –
            – *eth – an ending of the third person singular present indicative of verbs, now occurring only in archaic forms or used in solemn or poetic language: doeth or doth; hopeth; sitteth.
            – from – Dictionary.com @ http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/eth

            as it is written in John, Chapter 3 ~ KJV:
            [16] ¶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
            ~ that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
            [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
            but that the world through him might be saved.

            Words ending with *eth ~ KJV – means continued action – NOT just a one time OCCURRENCE
            Old Testament = 3,662 Occurrences ~ in 2,663 Verses ~ in 732 Chapters ~ in 37 Books of 39 Books
            Obadiah = 0 | Jonah = 0
            New Testament = 1,423 Occurrences ~ in 998 Verses ~ in 239 Chapters ~ in all 27 Books
            The Holy Bible ~ KJV = 5,085 Occurrences in 4,086 Verses ~ in 971 Chapters ~ in 64 of 66 Books

            It was written by King David in Psalm 138 ~ KJV:
            [1] I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.
            [2] I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth:
            ~ FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME.

            It is written about “the Word” ~ “the Lord Jesus Christ” in John, Chapter 1 ~ KJV:
            ~ [1] In the beginning was the Word,
            ~ and the Word was with God,
            ~ and the Word was God.
            [2] The same was in the beginning with God.
            [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
            [4] In him was life;
            and the life was the light of men.
            ~ [5] And the light SHINETH in darkness;
            and the darkness comprehended it not.

            ~ CAPITALization and emphasis of “the words of the Lord” ~ KJV are mine – Bro. Nick

          • Jonathan

            ((crickets))

          • Angel

            Oh wow please don’t ever come around me trying to spread your word, I don’t want it. That’s pretty ludicrous for a self proclaimed Pastor.

          • B.R.

            Please show me or tell me how to get a copy of these “older, more reliable manuscripts” that you speak of. You have yet to name one of them.

          • B.R.

            Oh! Do I hear…((crickets))…also?

            It is really a sad day when someone who is a Christian does not believe that God can ‘preserve’ his word forever (Psalm 12:6-7 (KJB)), nor believe that it is infallible nor inerrant. In other words, those who do not believe this are calling God a liar! They have actually placed their MIStrust in man instead of placing thier TRUST in God. What shame! A simple study of God’s word (2 Tim. 2:15 (KJB)) and the inspiration by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:20-21 (KJB)) should rule out all doubts. Only those whose eyes and ears have been opened, and whose hearts have been prepared by the Holy Ghost can receive the inspiration that exists only in the King James Bible. One cannot understand the King James Bible UNTIL they have asked (cried out to) God that he will send them the Holy Ghost for understanding.

          • Jonathan

            Once again, I am looking for someone to show me exactly where it says in Scripture that ONLY the KJV is to be used by Christians. Chapter & verse that use the words “King James Version” or “King James” anything please. Since Geoffrey hasn’t been able to, maybe BR can instead of attacking & ridiculing a brother in Christ. The Holy Spirit, who is my Advocate & Teacher, is doing an awesome job in my life giving me wisdom & discernment as I walk faithfully with Christ. So let’s get back to the one simple question that I’ve asked that, up to this point, hasn’t been answered. Supposedly, the KJV contains the “true pure words that God Himself wrote.” So I await that specific answer. Thanks!

          • Jonathan

            Oh, & by the way, BR….the reason it was about 3 hours before I replied (reference to your “crickets” comment) is that I was with the awesome family of God that I have the privilege of pastoring for our midweek prayer service.

          • Christian Gains

            Jonathan, you MIGHT enjoy perusing Dr. Michael S. Heiser’s site: (@ drmsh.com ), He’s not a “KJV ONLY” guy, but he does say that it is, (while, by NO MEANS perfect, or without flaws), the best, “cleanest” English Translation. But, (As I said above to Barten: “It’s REALLY which Translation speaks to YOU the BEST, that counts). Mike covers a VAST spectrum of wise counsel, and teachings…Ck out his “The Divine Counsel” Thesis Paper for his Phd. And, his “The Two Powers” paper…VERY interesting & inspiring.

          • SR

            (I happen to like Geneva Bible as well. KJV-easy read is also available. ) As far as the KJV-NIV differences, you may all want to have a look at Jack Moorman’s book on 8,000 differences between KJV and NIV – there are about 300 or so differences that I would consider to be more serious doctrinal differences. I personally find KJV and Geneva less ambiguous than NIV. Because Olde english is really Olde, have a look at MEV Bible as well.
            Jesus saves regardless of the Bible translation you use, but it seems not all translations are as direct and unambiguous as others.

          • SR

            Brother, your question does not answer where in the Bible it says only NIV should be used either. Where does it say we should or should not use Vulgate, or if a paraphrase is better than translation? Check Romans 8 :1 in both KJV and NIV and see the difference. If they look same to you, so be it.
            If you really want to prove NIV is equivalent to KJV theologically, check out Jack Moorman on 8,000 differences.
            Ask the Holy Spirit to help you discern and decide.
            Blessings

        • The manuscripts that were found weren’t new they were rightfully rejected in the first place and they came from EGYPT which is a type of hell in the Bible, the KJV is rendered from the manuscripts from Antioch – gee the place where they were first called “Christians” which makes more sense?

      • mike watchinski

        Jonathan,
        Set your NIV along side of a KJV and a New World Translation. See which of the two the NIV agrees with. Do you not think that the Holy Spirit has an interest in preserving His word? Do you think that God will just let fallible man simply do the “best he can” in the translating the “original” (which do not exist) writings into the most used language in this world today? Do you not understand that Satan’s tried and proven method of deception is “Yea, hath God said”? Satan is interested in translation committees also but for the purpose of creating the confusion that is in the church today. Have you ever thought “why was the public school system and universities brought into being?” As the ability to mass produce copies of the word of God was developed, God also made it possible for the literacy rate to be almost 100% in this land and other “christian” nations.

        There is no way that all of the different translations or even two of them can be the inspired, preserved and God given Word of God. God is not the author of confusion and the variance from version to version can never bring the man of God to
        confidently and authoritatively proclaim “Thus saith the Lord”. Only the KJV is the book given to God’s people in this language.

        PS. Why is it that the missing verses in the NIV did not bring the publisher to renumber the chapters? Why is it that the verse numbering remains the same as the KJV?

        Looking…

      • Geoffrey, most of these “pastors” now are NOT BOTHERED at all that people may be going to hell. That’s why they don’t preach sermons about sin, repentance, judgment, eternal damnation, hell, etc. They only want “positive thinking” and attendance in their lucrative entertainment churches.

        According to the NIV:

        Christ did save [nobody or nothing] (Luke 9:56 NIV)
        It is not necessary for sinners [to repent] (Matt. 9:13 NIV)
        Christ is sacrified [for nothing] (Matt. 9:13 NIV)
        People hath everlasting live by believing [on any god or on anything, fill what you like] (John 6:47 NIV)
        people don’t have to forgive others (missing Mark 11:26 in NIV)

        That’s why the ravening wolves in sheep’s clothing like the NIV: it supports their watered down false gospel.

    • 1 John 4:1

      Girls Gone Wise published an article called “10 Reasons the New NIV is Bad for Women”. As a woman, I agree with each point made.

      After reading the Girls Gone Wise article, can you acknowledge why many defend the faith by pointing out NIV publications are misleading?

      I am comfortable comparing the KJV with the NKJV.

    • Jonathan = Laodicean – sorry to hear it. “Where the word of a king is, there is power” Ecc 8:4 KJV is the only English Bible translated by the edict of a king. It has saved more people than any other of the modern “new age” versions.

      • It seems like you all who are endorsing the KJV as the pure word of God are using the same Scriptures to prove it, such as this one. It’s like you are reading the same articles about the KJV. If this Ecc. Scripture meant that because King James translated the Bible that it proves the KJV is the true one, than would it also have to be that each time a translation is made into another language apart from English, that a king has to do it? You’re hanging on a thin thread here. It is the Holy Spirit that leads us into all truth. As I read, I depend on Him to lead me; to reveal from God’s heart and mind, what He is saying, and He is more powerful than any mistranslation, and can get the message to His hungry and seeking people despite what Bible they are reading. Apart from the Holy Spirit’s interpretation, all others are false.

  • Tracy

    I bought a NIV in the early 80’s because it was promoted by Billy Graham, and much easier to read. I read and studied from the NIV for years before I heard about the missing verses, changed verses, etc. It is sad indeed.

    • Geoffrey Grider

      And junk food is “much easier” to eat than steak and vegetables, right? Time to get god’s preserved word in the KJV.

  • Kiwiwatcher

    Dear King James truly had an inspired view of his world. A God fearing man.

    In writing ‘a premonition to all most mightie monarches’ King James declared “Rome is the Seat of the Antichrist.”
    Also “the Scripture forbiddeth to worship the image of any thing that God created.”
    And “Christ did not promise….to leave Peter with them to direct and instruct them in all things: but he promised to send the Holy Ghost for that end.”

    In a speech in 1605 to Parliament he said “popery is in deed the mysterie of iniquitie.”

    When writing his meditation upon Revelation 20:7-10, King James stated “Antichrist and his clergie….not only infect the earth…..but rule over the whole…..”

    After the Catholic/Jesuit gunpowder plot of 1605, King James declared in parliament to members who all would have been killed had the plot not been uncovered. – the Catholic conspirators “That it was the only blinde superstition of their errors in Religion that led them to this desperate device” (the gunpowder plot).

    I am most grateful. Praise the Lord

    • Heather

      Amen Kiwiwatcher!

  • Skywatcher

    I’ve confirmed subscriptions NUMEROUS TIMES, so where are my comments I posted over an hour ago or more? Why does this page reload each time I confirm my subscription. In ten minutes, I can have ten of these pages on my screen at any given time! This site needs some more tweeking, methinks…

    • Kiwiwatcher

      Skywatcher – you may have to clear your history and reboot as your comp appears to use cache, which is dominating your system.

  • Skywatcher

    So far, it says there are “29 Comments on “The King James AV 1611 Bible…” Where are they? Each and every time this page reloads, there are only 10 comments showing. The captcha code reader doesn’t always work correctly either! I read and reread those letters before I post my comment and STILL have to enter as many as three before I’m in cyber orbit.

    • Skywatcher

      I put this response in yesterday, and it still isn’t logged in as a comment! Yet, my complaints are getting through the system! I’ve also logged in to receive email responses to my comments and are NOT getting them! This site is getting very frustrating! I’ll try it again. Here’s what I said to John yesterday, and since then, several have confirmed what I was trying to say:

      John, what you and MANY OTHERS don’t know is that the modern bibles have used the Alexandrian Texts, which serious theologians of many years ago, agreed were corrupted and manipulated texts. They even went so far as to call them heretical! You may want to check out the real facts, John. Here’s a little info on several of these rogue translators:

      Problems with NIV translators:

      In 1991, Dr. Virginia Ramey Mollencott, a lesbian, wrote a book, “Sensuous Spirituality Out From Fundamentalism”. In the “Episcopal Witness, June 1991, she states, “My lesbianism has always been a part of me.” She moved away from literalism within the Scriptures, categorizing the literal as allegory, metaphors, etc.

      Her homosexual book, “Is the Homosexual My Neighbor?” echoes her NIV’s assertion that the Bible censures only criminal offenses like “prostitution” and “violent gang rape”, not sincere homosexuals drawn to someone of the same sex.

      KJV NIV, NASB et al

      I Cor. 6: 9 effeminate (soft; pliable; nothing to do with male prostitutes nor homosexual
      criminality) offenders

      Deut. 23: 17; I Kings 15: 12; 22: 46; 2 Kings 23: 7 calls shrine prostitutes
      the “offenders” sodomites.

      In her first book, Dr. Mollencott speaks of using Tarot cards and I Ching (two forms of Occultism) and doing “automatic writing”, in which the spirits take control of her writing hand and do the actual writing. This is one of the translators of the NIV! Doesn’t that make you feel comfortable and eternally secure?! It gets worse…

      The most important member of this translation team was Dr. Woodstra, Chairman of the Old Testament Committee. In the 1950’s he inspired the idea of the NIV and pushed it through during the 1960’s.

      In the January 1992 edition of “The Record” (a pro-homosexual newspaper), it was stated, “Woodstra was a long-time friend of the E.C.” (Evangelicals Concerned). These are homosexuals who believe it is o.k. to be a homosexual Christian. He said the Holy Bible said
      nothing about censuring homosexuality and therefore, his bible doesn’t either.

      Dr. Mollencott went to the Presbyterian Church’s “USA’s Goddess Worship Re-imaging Conference which believes that the universe is God; so therefore, we are a part of God (Hinduism)! As Christians, we know that God created the Universe, of which we are a part, and
      therefore, we cannot be any part of God; the two are separate.

      Dr. Mollencott also makes the mistake of giving God a female image, calling Him “she” and “her”. At this conference, they were worshipping something called “The heart of the beast”. It is nothing like any of us would see in a Christian worship service and it had to be held up on either side! What a weak god that is! It can be seen on the YouTube.

      When one confronts the International Bible Society or the NIV people about the involvement of some of their translators, they will deny everything that you can think of…even written physical proofs!

      Only 1% of the ancient manuscripts’ copies agree with the new versions. 99% agree with the KJV! A huge difference!

      The Bible in other languages

      The old Latin version agrees 2:1 with the KJV (50-60 manuscripts)
      Peshitta (Holy Bible in other languages) agrees 3:1 (300 manuscripts)
      Gothic agrees 3:1 (350 manuscripts)
      Armenian agrees 3:2
      Ethiopic: KJV dominated

      When an analysis of the early Church Fathers was done by Bosworth, he found the following in agreement with the KJV:

      2:1 before 225 A.D.
      3:2 before 400 A. D.
      3:1 for doctrinal verses

      The King James Version brings forth the readings that the early Church had from the beginning.

      Foreign Language Bibles

      The French, German, Italian, Hungarian, Polish, Icelandic Bibles agreed exactly with the KJV until 1881, when Westcott came onto the scene, and started muddying the waters of translation.

      Tyndale’s Bible is the first readable English Bible; prior to this, English was a mixture of words and spellings from many nationalities. Westcott said, “I have a sort of craving that our text should be cast upon the world before we deal with matters likely to brand us with suspicion. I mean a text issued by a man already known for what undoubtedly will be treated as dangerous heresy will have great difficulty finding its way.”

      Westcott admitted he was guilty of “dangerous heresy”. What kind of “dangerous heresy” was he guilty of? These are quotes from his partner (Hort) on Greek texts:

      “America is a standing menace to the whole civilization. I wish the American union may be shivered to pieces…My deep hatred of democracy in all its forms.”

      Westcott had a club called “The Hermes Club”, named after the devil! A. Sidgwick and Fredric Myers were members of this club with Westcott. In this club was a branch called the “Ghostly Guild” in which the two Greek translators were members, Hort and Westcott, along with Lightfoot who gave us a lexicon which can be bought in a Christian bookstore! These men were all occultists!

      Society for Psychical Research

      This society was “favorably impressed with Madame Blavatsky” (another occultist), after they interviewed her. These people were involved in all sorts of occultic practices, and yet they were leading bible translators!

      Westcott and Hort had another club known as “Apostles”, definitely not apostles of Christ! Who were the members? H. Sidgwick (an arch Luciferian at that time); Arthur Balfour (Prime Minister of England) and Hort.

      The Eranus Club consisted of these three aforementioned men as well as Westcott. Synthetic Society consisted of A. Balfour and Fredric Myers from the Hermes Club. Balfour and Cecil Rhodes started the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the League of Nations.

      These men carried self-appointed titles:

      The Dragon: H. Sidgwick, G. Balfour and F. Meyers
      The Beast: A. Balfour
      The False Prophet: Westcott & Hort

      A passage they liked to use was: “Until the time of the New Order”, Heb. 9: 10 (NTV). The world powers were cavorting with the likes of these Satanists and Luciferians and is ongoing today…even in the translation of modern perversions of the Holy Bible. Have you noticed in the last 20-30 years, most of these translations wisely DO NOT call their translations “The Holy Bible”? Have you ever wondered why not? It’s because they are anything but “holy”!

      Today, a five-man team (“United Bible Society”) is using Westcott’s diabolical Greek text and they are responsible for the NIV. When Time Magazine was asked who would be the next pope, they chose Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini. He wrote the preface to “The New Jerome Biblical Commentary”. This commentary denies all the essentials of the Christian faith: the resurrection, the Ascension, the miracles, and the deity of Christ. They question everything and anybody who reads their works end up with questions, doubts, and suspicion of the Holy Bible.

      Modern pastors are using this corrupted Greek text that was worked on by Cardinal Martini, who said, “Fundamentalists were dangerous”! (“The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church”, his article). Martini was the man who signed “The Mutual Recognition Agreement” with Israel…an agreement between Israel and the papacy, which may be part of the reason why the pope went to Israel on May 26, 2014, to be formally given the ancient tomb of King David and the Temple Mount. Unbeknownst to the people of Israel, the Vatican already owns Israel.

      In a “recent” document, “Evangelicals and Catholics Together”, signed by many protestant leaders, it states, “…for many evangelicals, the new birth requires baptismal initiation into the community…” Occultists, Knights of Columbus, and Masons, etc. are initiated; Christians are NOT initiated, they are born again! This document refers to “…not only the One (remember him? Satan) who is the Truth, but the very idea of truth itself…” — that “truth” being Satan! “The Initiation Bible” can be bought at Christian bookstores!!! For shame!

      Spangler says, “Luciferic initiation…is an invitation into the New Age.”

      Jer. 26: 2 states:

      “Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD’S house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD’S house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word:”

      We are NOT allowed to take one word out of the Holy Bible! We are not allowed to add to it either. Since the Creator of the universe was so concerned about the gathering of the bread fragments that were scattered about in the grass after He fed thousands of people, think how important it is that none of His words be scattered or lost!

      What was their agenda in brief?
      To infiltrate the Christian Church with false doctrines
      To promote Satan over Christ
      To introduce the NWO agenda through “God’s” word
      To cause people to become subservient to their global handlers
      Ultimately, to lead many to eternal damnation, thereby slapping God in the face.

      As long as people continue to disagree with the facts, they’re on a long train to eternal separation from God!

      This is only a small taste of the information I have on the subject!

      • Christian Gains

        Gail Riplinger’s “NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS” does a marvelous job of DETAILING the points that you’ve made, and MORE…MUCH MORE! It took her 4 Yrs. to compare, (word for word), ALL “NEW” Translations, (they SHOULD be termed INTERPRETATIONS” instead), against the KJV, and PROVED that there are LITERALLY thousands of words missing, (and even entire verses in some cases), from the “NEW” Versions. As I’ve said B4, the KJV is NOT “perfect”, (there are a few discrepencies with the Hebrew and Greek), but it IS all that we NEED! And, this debate that’s begun is GOOD! We ALL NEED to be challenged, in our faith & Scriptural knowledge, lest we grow lethargic, lazy, and indolent! May God, (through His guide, the Holy Spirit), help us ALL to SEEK & FIND the TRUTH! Let’s KEEP learning folks!

        • Bro. Nick

          Christian Gains – You say – ‘the KJV is NOT “perfect” ‘.
          I wonder how many folk have considered the following about the absolute authenticity of “the words of truth”, just as they are written in “the word of the Lord” ~ the Holy Bible ~ KJV

          1 Do you believe that those fallible men who wrote the original books of the Holy Bible were truly inspired by “the Holy Spirit” – and that they were correct in every “jot” and “tittle” that they were inspired to write?
          2 Do you believe that the same “Lord God Almighty” is able to inerrantly preserve – with NO (zero) mistakes His Holy Word – for one of the titles of “the Lord Jesus Christ” is “the Word” (John, Chapter 1 ~ KJB) using fallible men to translate into English the Holy Bible ~ KJV?
          For “the Lord God Almighty” says of Himself in Jeremiah, Chapter 32 ~ KJV:
          [26] ¶ Then came the word of the LORD unto Jeremiah, saying,
          [27] Behold,
          I am the LORD,
          the God of all flesh:
          is there any thing too hard for me?

          It is my Biblical understanding that “the word of the Lord” ~ the Holy Bible ~ KJV is “the truth” – for my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” said unto “God the Father””
          “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”
          (John 17:17 ~ KJB)
          .

      • Bro. Nick

        Skywatcher – Thanks for your being willing to make very unpopular comments about “the truth”.
        I have a bumper sticker that says – The Truth is The Truth – even if nobody believes it – and “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” said of Himself in John, Chapter 14 ~ KJV:
        [6] … I am the way, the truth, and the life:
        no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
        [7] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

        It would be oh so much better if we listened to the real Godly wisdom of Biblically sound CHRISTians from the past – for C.H. Spurgeon once made the statement about the Holy Bible ~ KJV:
        “Brethren, we shall not adjust our Bible to the age, but the age to the Bible.”

        As it is written in “the word of the Lord” in Proverbs, Chapter 30 ~ KJV
        [5] Every word of God is pure:
        he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
        [6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

        .
        Deception by small actions….
        One word at a time
        One meaning at a time
        One doctrine at a time
        .
        All working for….
        One confused and lost Child of God at a time
        .

        How very few there are that truly “believeth” the BIBLICAL WARNING:
        [6] Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
        [7] Casting all your care upon him;
        for he careth for you.
        – [8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,
        – as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
        [9] Whom resist stedfast in the faith,
        knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
        [10] But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
        after that ye have suffered a while,
        make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
        [11] To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
        Amen.
        (1 Peter, Chapter 5 ~ KJB)
        .

    • Geoffrey Grider

      At the bottom of the comments is a button called “load all comments”, you need to click that to see the rest of them. Also, you should be using Google Chrome.

  • carson

    NIV is awful.
    Another one to add and that the abortionists who claim to be christians have used to claim God is pro-abortion is numbers 5:21/27.
    There the NIV uses miscarry but no others render it miscarry, then read the whole chapter, pregnancy is never mentioned/is not part of the deal/has nothing to do with it, so miscarry is way out in left field and used by the NIV because that’s what the NIV does, renders everything bad.

    it’s a jealousy offering, not an..accidently got pregnant while committing adultery abortion offering that faux ‘christians’ who love and desire abortion try and use it as.

    hosea 9:14 has the hebrew word for miscarry there, numbers 5:21/27 is not the same word.

  • B.R.

    Let’s see…
    Virginia Mollencott, a self-proclaimed omnigender lesbian,…a sodomite!
    Marten Woudstra, a self-proclaimed homosexual,…a sodomite!
    And let’s not forget…
    Madame Blavatsky, a leader in the occult/satanic worship; hence the title ‘Madame’.
    All three of these wicked individuals were/are deeply involved in the translation process of the NIV.
    The NIV is definitely NOT from God!

    Furthermore, the NIV is based upon the work of two of the biggest heretics and occultists of all time–Westcott and Hort. Westcott himself was one of the founders of the Cambridge Ghost Society. Westcott and Hort were psychic Ghost Hunters. Not to mention that the NIV was translated from the corrupted Alexandrian Greek texts.

    If this is not convincing enough that the NIV is straight from Hell, then consider this–The parent company (Harper Collins) who publishes the NIV, also publishes The Joy of Gay Sex, and The Satanic Bible. It doesn’t take a whole lot of common sense to figure this out folks. The NIV is evil and corrupt.

  • patricia s

    The King James Version (KJV) or The New King James Version (NKJV). The KJV was a great literal translation in its day, but that day was the 17th century! Many earlier and more accurate biblical manuscripts were discovered afterwards and most modern translations—including those produced by very conservative Christians—are based on them. The NKJV updates some of the 17th century language, and I like its literalness, but most of the time it relies on the same late and less accurate manuscripts that were available to the KJV translators in the 17th century.
    The New American Standard Bible (NASB). The NASB is popular with many fundamentalist and ultra-conservative Christian scholars because it is extremely literal, even to the point of not sounding very natural at times.

    • Thonas

      If you think those 2 are a contrast, you ought to see the difference between the Kevin and the original manuscripts

      • Thonas

        If you think those 2 are a contrast, you ought to see the difference between the kjv I meant and the original manuscripts

    • Fissi0n

      The NKJV is not a revision of the KJV. The NKJV is an entirely new translation that is copyright Thomas Nelson. The NKJV pretends to be a revision of the KJV, however contrary to its claims, it lends more to the Minority text MSS than the Majority Text MSS. Thomas Nelson produced the NKJV for one reason: Money.

  • Slick

    NIV – the Nearly Inspired Version

  • William

    This whole KJV is the best etc is nonsense, sorry. I switched over to NLT and understand the word much better. By the way, KJV is not the original also newer translations have more manuscripts available for reference that the KJV translators didnt have. Another thing, KJV translators added to the scriptures too.

    In the end, who cares..just as you are reading the word, praying and asking the Holy Spirit to teach you.

    Exception is “The Message”, stay away from that. But NLT is highly recommended.

  • If you guys think you got it bad.. us here in Indonesia got NIV translation + God translated into Allah
    So example God the Father was translated as Allah Bapa (Allah the Father)
    add to that the missing verses..

  • Shawn

    Jimmy and Geoffrey are right Dan. The New Testament was not written when John wrote Revelation. John Wrote Revelation by the inspired Word of God with references from the Old Testament. So NO it does not just apply to Revelation it applies to the entire Bible. No they did not banish him to the Isle of Pat’mos with a complete set of scrolls of the Old Testament.

  • Kiwiwatcher

    Age is no respecter of accuracy.

    The older manuscripts Codex Sinaiticus (apparent 350AD) and Vaticanus (apparent 350AD) are not identical and have glaring omissions.

    The oldest surviving manuscripts originate from Egypt simply because the climate is ideal for preservation storage but they are poor imitations of the originals.
    Origen, an Alexandrian church third century father was well aware of the corrupted Egyptian manuscripts He said of manuscript fragment P52, dating to 125AD – “…the differences among the manuscripts [of the Gospels] have become great, either through the negligence of some copyists or through the perverse audacity of others; they either neglect to check over what they have transcribed, or, in the process of checking, they lengthen or shorten, as they please.”

    The Vaticanus was located in pristine condition in the Vatican Library during 1481AD which should ring alarm bells for born-again Christians as it too originated from Egypt. Numerous sections of scriptural verses are missing.

    Totally missing Scriptures in Vaticanus includes –
    Genesis 1:1 through to Genesis 46:28
    Psalms 106-138
    Matthew 16:2-3
    The Pauline Pastoral Epistles
    Hebrews 9:14-13:25
    and the book of Revelation

    The Codex Sinaiticus was located in a rubbish in 1844 behind St Catherine’s Monastery near Mount Sinai. Words are obviously missing, and the manuscript is riddled with ‘corrections’ made in the 7th century. While this manuscript may be considered the one of the oldest – it is also considered the most ‘corrected’ (or altered) with its later additions.

    Manuscripts were written on papyrus, or parchment until paper from cotton fibres was became available in the 12th century. Early churches copied their scriptures due to their manuscripts decaying or needing to spread the gospel.
    There are 5,309 surviving Greek manuscripts that contain all or part of the New Testament. These manuscripts agree together 95% of the time. The other 5% account for the differences between the King James and the modern versions.

    The modern versions of the Bible had to use the Textus Receptus, since it contains the majority of the surviving Greek manuscripts. The problem was, when the Textus Receptus disagreed with the Vaticanus or the Sinaiticus, compilers of modern Bibles preferred their ‘corrected’ manuscripts over the Textus Receptus.

    Studies of the Dead Sea Scrolls from the first century, show that copies can be uncannily accurate. The Old Testament is translated from the Masoretic Text which dates from about 950AD. Although nearly 1000 years separates the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masoretic Text – the two manuscripts are virtually identical, with most variants involving minor spelling.

  • torde

    I would never use any Bible but the King James. Years ago the Holy Spirit showed me the truth thru great teachers like Gail Riplinger and others who exposed the corrupted versions. David Daniels compiled a list of archaic words and phrases into a little pocket booklet that fits inside a Bible. I highly recommend this little aid in deciphering some of the archaic English. Sure beats reading a lie. It is called the King James Bible companion and can be ordered from chick.com

  • Skywatcher

    Folks, I apologize!

    Where you see the following in my last comment (if it got posted), the system incorrectly combined the obvious distinctions together, so that they cannot be read correctly.
    KJV NIV, NASB et al

    I Cor. 6: 9 effeminate (soft; pliable; nothing to do with male prostitutes nor homosexual
    criminality) offenders
    Deut. 23: 17; I Kings 15: 12; 22: 46; 2 Kings 23: 7 calls shrine prostitutes
    the “offenders” sodomites.

    It should read:

    KJV: I Cor. 6: 9 effeminate (soft; pliable; nothing to do with criminality)
    Compared with: NIV, NASB et al: male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

    KJV: Deut. 23: 17; I Kings 15: 12; 22: 46; 2 Kings 23: 7 calls the “offenders” sodomites.
    Compared with: NIV, NASB et al: merely labels them as shrine prostitutes, thereby excluding the rest of the homosexuals!

    Sorry for the mix-up; t’was out of my control!

    • Tiptopsaidhe

      Col 1:14 is the verse to which I refer when checking out a version of the bible. If it doesn’t say “through His blood,” I know it is taken from the minority texts and from the greek of Westcott and Hort. Neither of them believed in the deity of Jesus, and Hort admitted to barely knowing any Greek.

      William Tyndale’s work of the bible into English is nearly perfect. There is very little need for going back to the greek or hebrew to study. Also, be wary of concordances also. The influence of the devil through Westcott and Hort is also in corcordances. Stick with Tyndale’s translation of the majority texts from the AV1611 scholars.

      The Sword Bible is the KJV and retains all the language of the AV1611, but uses “gives” instead of “giveth”, etc.

  • Zhang Hong

    I was blest to find the following six-minute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ykbnIQocq0
    in which Kent Hovind presents a clear, concise timeline of the various Bible translations and what the source texts were for them.

    After viewing a number of articles and videos on the subject, I was shocked at all of the verses which the modern translations distort. Many verses concern the deity of Jesus, the mention of his blood, “progressive salvation”, and other vital subjects.

    I recently bought a King James Bible, after using a New Jerusalem Bible for many years. I plan to compare verse by verse to try to “catch up” with what I have missed previously.

    Some people complain about “thee”, “thou”, etc. in the KJV, but if students can learn Spanish in school, they can acclimate to some old English expressions.

    Thank you so much for your website, which I discovered after hearing of it on Rush Limbaugh’s show. The articles are gripping and informative, with many enlightening comments.

    • SR

      Check out Jack Moorman’s book on 8,000 differences between kjv and niv.

    • Bro. Nick

      Zhang Hong – Please consider ordering
      – ‘The King James Bible Companion’ by David W. Daniels @ http:www//chick.com
      They are $0.49 US each + shipping – cheaper/copy when you order several to give away.
      On the inside of the last page there is a paragraph that tells of the importance of the words “thee” and “thou” – and – “you” and “yours” –
      I bought a bunch several years ago, and have handed them out – to those few folks that are really interested.

      As it is written in “the word of the Lord” in Proverbs, Chapter 30 ~ KJV:
      [5] Every word of God is pure:
      he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
      [6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
      .

  • Mickey Vhineztain

    NIV ist bad to ze extreme. It labelz chapterz ov ze Bible to ze effect zome become anti-Yisrael! mein G-tt ze zinz ov zheze bibla tranzlatorz. KJV’z careful, extremely meticulouz zcholarzhip ZTANDZ WONDERFULLY TO THIZ VERY DAY, 5776 or ze 21st Xentury, even China readz ze KJV you knov!

  • Mickey Vhineztain

    NIV labeled a portion ov ze epiztle ov Saint Paul to be: ‘LEARNING FROM THE MISTAKES OF ISRAEL” und zhiz ist crassly political, anti-Yisrael, und anti-Zemitic to zay ze leazt! Blessed be KJV-Yisrael fur immer ahmein. General Edmund Allenby ze mann uzed vy G-tt Netzach Yisroel-El Elohe Yisrael to bring back Yisrael to ze Holy Land, he read only KJV und prayed everyday fur ze return ov Yisrael und won ze battlez ov Vorld Var 1!

  • Vic

    So may I ask a question?

    If the KJV is “THE” version, what about the rest of the world that does not speak or read english? IF there is a translation of the KJV made into their language, isnt that the very thing that KJV followers feel is wrong? …making a translation from a translation into a language that the people actually use? This confuses me, and at times almost makes it appear to one just observing to appear very arrogant saying if you do not speak english and follow the KJV you are wrong. Do other “NON speaking english” countries feel this way too, or just us American and European english speaking people?

    I promise I am not trying to be baiting, I would just like for someone to explain answers to my questions. Thanks 🙂

  • Motar

    KJV-onlyism is gnostic partisanship.

  • Michael

    I’m a new Christian & have been reading the ESV Bible, should I continue or switch to the KJV ? I must say, I really enjoy reading the ESV. Any comments appreciated…

  • My mother said she’s like the evil NIV, and the Church Baptist in Fortuna, California is used the evil NIV!!

    I told her the NIV is WRONG, and it’s not holy, she told me she’s liking the evil NIV, because there is no thou, or shall!! I told her the UNHOLY NIV that they removed WORDS!!

    I only Read the King James Authorized Version HOLY BIBLE!!

    Love Always and Shalom Everyone,

    Kristi

  • Becca

    When I was newly born-again I was blessed to be put in a church where the KJV was the only Bible used. After a few years I began to wonder if this was just some church “rule” or if it was a vital issue. I ended up doing much comparing and also reading Gail Riplinger’s book “New Age Bible Versions”…that settled the issue for me. The “stuff” that is missing from newer Bible versions is appalling in its totality. Verses and words are completely omitted. If you start from Genesis and go through the whole Bible, the amount of deleting and changing is almost unbelievable. The evil one wants to snatch the truth from the lost and saved. I appreciate Geoff’s article!!! It’s not about bashing believers who read another version; rather, it is cry to seek out the truth and not be mislead.

  • Jewish Voice

    Considering that the Bible, both old and new testaments, were originally written in Hebrew, isn’t it better to compare the KJV and NIV with the original Hebrew text, English translations…Much of the truth was lost when the originals were first translated from the Hebrew into Greek and later from the Greek into English. ..Oh, yes, after much effort I have obtained a copy of the English translation of the Hebrew Bible, both testaments.

    • Julie

      The truth can never be lost if we live in a close relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ and submit ourselves totally and allow the Holy Spirit to work in us.
      The efforts to acquire and prove are great distractions to the relationship God wants to have with us.

  • John Miller

    There is one VERY large glaring omission from the NIV that is found in the 1611 KJV that you COMPLETELY left out…the Apocrypha! That’s right. There are 14 books and 172 chapters of uninspired writings from the Catholic Bible in the 1611 KJV Bible! I know because I have a copy of a 1611 KJV Bible. I paid good money for it too. I wanted to know the truth concerning this controversy. The Apocrypha is also in the 1613 KJV translation that the 1611 KJV translators revised making about 400 changes. When they revised it again in 1629 making even more changes they finally left the Apocrypha out. The 1611 KJV translation was revised at least 5 times before 1769. Anyone who believes they are using a 1611 KJV Bible and it doesn’t have the Apocrypha in it is being deceived. And that includes YOU! Furthermore, the English used in the 1611 KJV is next to impossible to read. Shame on you for not telling the whole truth and deceiving people!

  • Here is a rather important NIV verse that really needs to replace the error of the KJV
    Matthew 24:3 (NIV)
    3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

    The topic was not the end of the “world” kosmos” but the end of the “age” aion..

    The KJV gives readers the impression that they were speaking of some time in the future, rather than the events of Matt. 23:35-39

    No charge.

  • Julie

    “Have no other God before me”. It appears intellectualism has become the God for some commentators. I bathe in His word from referencing many translations.
    The unlimate interpreter and translator is Jesus himself. Is Integllectualism a tool of the devil in a feeble attempt to overshadow Christ. (Colossialns 2:8 )

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    • Bro. Nick

      Why Is The World Economic Forum In Davos So Intent On Pushing The LGBT Agenda?
      Read that which was written 3 years ago — – LGBPTTQQIIAA+ @ Comprehensive* List of LGBTQ+ Term Definitions / it’s pronounced METROsexual – http://itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/2013/01/a-comprehensive-list-of-lgbtq-term-definitions/

      About “the certainty of the words of truth” that have been Divinely preserved by “the Lord God Almighty” in the English language in the Holy Bible [KJV] ~ AMEN ! ! !
      As it is written:
      “I will praise thee with my whole heart:
      before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.
      I will worship toward thy holy temple,
      and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness
      and for thy truth:
      FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME.”
      (Psalm 138:1-2 ~ KJV)

      CAPITALization for emphasis of “the words of the Lord” as they are perfectly preserved in the Holy Bible [KJV] are mine – Bro. Nick

  • Wow! It appears that the NIV Bible has been falsified so that people believe that:

    Christ did save [nobody or nothing] (Luke 9:56 NIV)
    It is not necessary for sinners [to repent] (Matt. 9:13 NIV)
    Christ is sacrified [for nothing] (Matt. 9:13 NIV)
    People hath everlasting live by believing [on any god or on anything] (John 6:47 NIV)
    people don’t have to forgive others (missing Mark 11:26 in NIV)

    A SURE WAY TO HELL!

    And you are right, almost all people won’t read footnotes…

    It seems like that the NIV has been written for a one world religion to send all people to hell.

    I remember a pastor of a Chinese Baptist church in the years 1980s (at that time they had not yet evicted the true musicians to replace them with the guitar scratchers and other noise makers) saying: “If you want to read an English language Bible, read the KJV version instead of the NIV. Now I now why… Unfortunately, that church has now become unholy!

  • Spanish Guy

    Yo hablo español. No comprendo mucho ingles, espcialmente El Rey James. Es bueno si leo la Santa Biblia de Antigua Versión de Casiadoro de Reina?

    • Versión Reina Valera 1909 es bueno:

      Luk 9:56 Porque el Hijo del hombre no ha venido para perder las almas de los hombres, sino para salvarlas. Y se fueron á otra aldea.

      Mat 9:13 Andad pues, y aprended qué cosa es: Misericordia quiero, y no sacrificio: porque no he venido á llamar justos, sino pecadores á arrepentimiento.

      1Cor 5:7 Limpiad pues la vieja levadura, para que seáis nueva masa, como sois sin levadura: porque nuestra pascua, que es Cristo, fué sacrificada por nosotros.

      Yoh 6:47 De cierto, de cierto os digo: El que cree en mí, tiene vida eterna.

      Luk 2:33 Y José y su madre estaban maravillados de las cosas que se decían de él.

      Mrk 3:15 Y que tuviesen potestad de sanar enfermedades, y de echar fuera demonios:

      Mrk 11:26 Porque si vosotros no perdonareis, tampoco vuestro Padre que está en los cielos os perdonará vuestras ofensas.

      1Cr 10:28 Mas si alguien os dijere: Esto fué sacrificado á los ídolos: no lo comáis, por causa de aquel que lo declaró, y por causa de la conciencia: porque del Señor es la tierra y lo que la hinche.

      Mat 5:44 Mas yo os digo: Amad á vuestros enemigos, bendecid á los que os maldicen, haced bien á los que os aborrecen, y orad por los que os ultrajan y os persiguen;

      Yoh 16:16 Un poquito, y no me veréis; y otra vez un poquito, y me veréis: porque yo voy al Padre.

      Why 13:1 Y YO me paré sobre la arena del mar, y vi una bestia subir del mar, que tenía siete cabezas y diez cuernos; y sobre sus cuernos diez diademas; y sobre las cabezas de ella nombre de blasfemia.

  • Dave

    There are more words missing from the NIV, like 64,000 words. I did a search in the KJV “in earth” found 13 times. Now do that same search in the NIV, I was shocked to say the least, talk about taking the power away from Jesus.

    http://www.purebiblesearch.com/ You will have to use your own NIV search tool (BLB is one).

  • Dave

    Here is what proved to me that the King James Bible is God’s Word.
    Look in Daniel 3:25 of any New Age so called bible niv, asv, esv, et al. Maybe one of those gods is allah? And the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. not son of the gods.
    Do a search “in earth” in the KJV and compare it to the niv.
    (1 John 4:3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
    The KJV is the Spirit of the Living Word, if that bible you read does not confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, then yes, it is worshiping the same god as Islam, Satan.

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  • marlene

    I can’t tell you how important this article is and how it has helped me immensely. Thank you, Geoffrey Grider. Should anyone read my comment, i’d like to ask if you would be so kind as to refer me to a version of the Bible that is in plain English yet true to God’s Word. I’m having trouble getting my family to read the KJV and have had to read it dozens of times before I even began to understand it. I still use my KJV and now find it easier, but my son has given up. Do I need to read the Septuigant as well? Thank you.

    • Patrice

      Marlene: I am switching to the KJV as well, and also find it difficult but praying and asking for the Holy Spirit to help me understand. It’s working somewhat..I need to be patient. However, I do use the NJKV parallel for some words that don’t make sense. E.g. The verse in psalms (forget the number). “As the hart PANTENTH for the water so my soul PANTENTH after thee”. I sing a song, “as the deer PANTENTH for the water…”. So I looked up ‘hart” and see it is another name for DEER? I found that out by going to the NKJV. Now I can’t imagine my uncle who is a deer hunter saying “Today let’s go hart hunting”. I believe he’d say “let’s go deer hunting”. So I’ll just continue on with KJV (as I did do research on the diff between KJV and NIV and was astounded at the omissions and changing of relevant words to nothing words.

      • Bro. Nick

        Patrice – Please realize that the Holy Bible [KJV] is written in pure English English – not in colloquial ‘Amerikan’ English

        Someone hath made an ‘unintentional’ – OR – an intentional ‘typo’ in you Holy Bible [KJV] – for in Psalm 38:10 [KJV] it is written:
        “My heart panteth, my strength faileth me: as for the light of mine eyes, it also is gone from me.”

        And in Psalm 42:1 [KJV] it is written:
        “As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.”
        .

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    • Bro. Nick

      There are many-many things being written and said in these Pagan, and increasingly ‘spiritually black’ times of “antichrist” ‘religious beliefs’ which are sheer lies
      – AND It should always be remembered that those few who truly are Biblically “born again” believers and followers of “the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” are Biblically WARNED:
      “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
      And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
      Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
      whose end shall be according to their works.”
      (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ~ KJV)
      .

  • Bro. Nick

    Geoffrey – Thank you again for standing firm for “the scripture of truth”, The Holy Bible [KJV]

    Only for those that are truly interested in a strong – and absolutely ‘non-politically correct’ – and long – and intense lesson so that they may “know the certainty of the words of truth” that are Divinely inspired only in the Holy Bible [KJV] – I suggest listening and taking lots of notes on a 20+ year old presentation
    – ‘The King James Bible Is The Final Authority’ – Dr. Peter Ruckman @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R31oVUZeEzI

    I realize that I am one of the few and ever-fewer who do unapologetically “believeth” “by faith” that “the Lord God Almighty” hath Divinely preserved “the truth” only in the Holy Bible [KJV] ~ for I do truly “believeth” that there is absolutely nothing too hard for “the LORD JEHOVAH”:
    “Then came the word of the LORD unto Jeremiah, saying,
    Behold,
    I am the LORD,
    the God of all flesh:
    is there any thing too hard for me?”
    (Jeremiah 32:26-27 ~ KJV)

    And – I absolutely do “by faith” also “believeth” that which is simply and clearly written in “the word of the Lord”:
    “Every word of God is pure:
    he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
    Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”
    (Proverbs 30:5-6 ~ KJV)
    .

  • SS

    I can’t remember what verse it was, but it was either in Matthew or James. It was regarding THE SON, Jesus. In the NIV it referenced THE Son and then later in the passage A Son. The KJV referenced only THE SON. I caught it right away, but the rest of our church read over it.

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