Shades Of Antichrist: Obama Privately Campaigning To Take Over As UN Secretary General

Al-Jarida quoted sources as saying that Obama has already discussed the issue of running for secretary-general with Democrats, Republicans, and Jewish officials in the US.

Barack Obama has privately campaigned to succeed Ban Ki-moon as United Nations Secretary General at the end of 2016.

“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.” Revelation 13:2 (KJV)

Did you think that the Muslim-raised, anti-Constitution, pro-everything evil Obama was just going to go away after plundering America for the last 8 years? No, he is not. Now we have learned that he wants to step directly from killing America to global dictator. Can you, in your wildest nightmare, imagine Barack Hussein Obama as the Secretary General of the United Nations? It sounds like a plotline from the “Left Behind” series! But guess what? The drive to do it is actually happening and Obama just might be appointed to that office.

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV)

People have said to me that Obama cannot be the Antichrist because there are too many people that don’t like him, and the Bible says the Antichrist is worshipped. True, but consider this. After the Rapture happens, the only people left are the type of people that love and support Obama. Take out the Church and there is no one left to oppose him. The Pretribulation Rapture of the Church changes absolutely everything. Time will tell how far Obama will go on the prophecy timeline.

Obama as the UN Secretary General would be a major jump forward on the prophecy timeline

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is also reportedly working with moderate Arab States to prevent this transition. The Jerusalem Post reported: “Netanyahu remembers well just how US President Barack Obama brushed aside Israeli objections and went ahead with the P5+1 nuclear agreement with Iran. Now, Netanyahu is reportedly planning some personal payback.”

According to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida, Netanyahu will make common cause with moderate Arab governments in order to sabotage Obama’s plan to succeed Ban Ki-moon when the South Korean diplomat ends his term as United Nations secretary-general on December 31 of this year.

Al-Jarida quoted sources as saying that Obama has already discussed the issue of running for secretary-general with Democrats, Republicans, and Jewish officials in the US.

The sources said that once Netanyahu got wind of Obama’s plans, the prime minister began to make efforts to submarine what he has referred to as “the Obama project.”

“Wasn’t eight years of having Obama in office enough?” Netanyahu is quoted in the Kuwaiti daily as telling associates. “Eight years during which he ignored Israel? And now he wants to be in a position that is liable to cause us hardships in the international arena.”

“Israel will not allow this to happen,” the source is quoted as saying.

Oy Vey.


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  • suez

    • Righteously Dividing The Enemy

      A Voice Declaring: “One Era/Error, A New Fear Factor,” 2003, the end of the free,

      I have to ask is this true or just rumored? Still these are harsh accusations, to lay the crumbling of the most abominable nation in the free world at one mans administration, indeed. Showing ourselves the leaders of Christian-dom aren't we to walk without particular blinders on. Eventually, no more the turning of biblical truth, even prophecy into wise fables fabricated convulsively by the America of Satan's Seat. Unforeseen, though Elohim Himself, as far as this prophetic ministry is concern of them laying sizable claims against America inundated with incorrigible sin.
      As to lash out finally against it's blood guiltiness, every nation has one, for without shedding of blood, there is no character of further innovations, thus world wars always pending. Said lamentations regarding her at present goes back as far as the last thirty years, with the last 15.10, that's per the Intrepid Dream time table 2001. It has been spent counting her perilous days down to one dangerous, deadly year in particular, actually this one, 2016, breaking it's mark along a climatic season. These Mysteries of Babylon especially arriving the whole curious world along Obama, whose administration placed all said judgments to pause, the two weeks and seven year long intermission, now expired.
      Just as so it was somewhere around the early nineties said wrath of God, like toward all rebellious nations had reached a crescendo unto the jaw dropping warning or should I say unrealizable reveal, not to mock God, was that of Holy Spirit clearly telling me, how they would destroy America, the free. I never considered it before, but it was like a reenactment of Elohim explaining to father Abraham, even father, that's marriage worshippers unto Noah's, that they would destroy these sin cities, even a sinning world.
      All for which lately I heard them say, strip Americans like Job my servant, which would then make sense, this Hussein Reign given them, that has equally brought American currency along the worthiness of a tattered American Flag blowing pitifully in the wind. So, this end time Apostle can faithfully say, every administration proceeding his, has like added it's own brand of viral ingredient more or less to the witches brew which landed us, mankind a Hussein Reign as of especially 2003.
      This NTEB has always been about God, His not being mocked, and mankind though they seem to excel, said escalation counted more as transgressions and blasphemy surrounding just this outbreak of weapons of mass destruction. Now to be taught all the less, like many of the fallen before them, Holy Spirit would go and describe how they would strike at America's heart, the love of money causing the love of God, Christ's Cross to waxed cold as ice. This would explain Holy Spirit describing it as the stumbling block of their iniquity, even Jesus made the claim, how unlikely a rich man would get into heaven and rested this impossibility on all things being possible per the Father of Glory, hence Christ's Cross.
      One thing worshipping the American Dream has taught us, Satan even using it's inconceivable celebrity as so to tempt Jesus, here is the temptation of one or the other, that's God or Mammoth, never, ever both of them. Wealth unwisely done, having at it's root, the dramatic affairs of man, has always been evil's primary weapon against them. Wholeheartedly, pull up this deadly implant, save the harvest, problem solved, otherwise this predatory lending, having sown itself right into fabric of America, this vindictive scourge, relentlessly, it's to take like this miracle, to undo it all.
      Although sad to hear, that Obama isn't going to take his family and get out of politics, this move would make him appear all the more the end time antichrist, even so, all is not lost, meaning Christ Jesus' Cross.

      Though this man, like incalculable number gone before him, has made a heartless choice, unable to like a Judas Iscariot realize ones lost is actually their gain, repent and worship Him, instead driven insane, and chose to be an even greater detriment to man. Let’s hope even pray for him, as though he’s truly the enemy, that this report is all wrong about him, that for the end time refugees fleeing a west catastrophically brought to it’s knees. That instead like a Moses he will be the one to bring millions of them along a safe haven though temporary, but such is the role of man, but such is the role of man, rather those things not seen, those things eternal.
      So I fear with the money tool I declared it years back come the same warning from Elohim as that given to the first Adam regarding the forbidden tree. Clearly, work this grace, this liberty as an occasion of sin, then this wicked device it shall be, cursed, death and hell. Instead as the second Adam, it’s weaponry not being carnal, money can then be used for good. Even as this act of grace, that can as well save, breaking forever this curse, now the faithful servant is an heir of heaven. What shall it profit indeed, that to gain the American Dream is to lose one’s soul, or what shall man give in exchange for his soul? When what God has in stored is worth a billion of them, these blinded rebellious men, thus and fore sure, vain is the help of man, blessed to the stone made without hand, as all will soon bow to him. AWAKE, Apb, The RAM,

      • CJHames

        I am sorry, but this post is so poorly written I couldn’t get beyond the first three sentences. Writing it was a complete waste of time.

        • OBAMA IS CONVERTING TO ISLAM, coming out of the closet, and at his side will be Kareem, Shaq, Ali, and other famous American-Muslims. “You’re not going to call them terrorists are you? Hahahahahahahahaha!” as if these are the radical Islamic terrorists we are dealing with but they still adhere to the teachings of the Koran and its violent passages. Are they religion first or country first?

          HE’S WAITING for the perfect time but Paris, San Bernadino, and the latest attacks in the name of Islam, is delaying the announcement. CONNECT THE DOTS!

          WHEN HE DOES THIS, then all TREASONOUS ACTS will be confirmed. His legitimizing Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood’s Morsi, gave him then the legitimacy to surround himself with, appoint, invite to the WH, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD even as Egypt, other M.E. countries, and Britain, have labeled them a TERRORIST GROUP which means they SHOULD NOT deal with any department, agency, Hillary/Huma, WHITE HOUSE, that has MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN ITS RANKS!

          • Skywatcher

            Steve chavez, Obama is NOT converting to Islam; he always was! There are numerous stories out where he is exposed as having been such, prior to coming to the WH. Maybe, you meant he is converting the country to Islam?

            Ovomit NEVER ever made his disdain for Christianity a secret! He came out of the starting gate as a two-faced Muslim, speaking out of both sides of his mouth. It didn’t take Holy Spirit-filled Christians long to pick up on those “vibes”. His definition of what it meant to be a Christian told the tale! He was all over the place, but where he really should’ve been.

            Fasten your seat belt, Bro! It’s going to be a bumpy ride for the next few months!

          • Skywatcher, you’re right. One critical fact that is being left out is that the koran teaches it is OK to lie to the infidel in order to spread Islam. Valerie Jarret is the puppet master with her hand up Obama’s back who has declared love for her homeland, Iran, and her Muslim faith. He could be a very active Muslim behind the curtain.

            Remember that climate change thingy and the trade agreement thingy, well, those ‘thingees’ are his launch pads to the next president of the United Nations. Appointment comes up December 16, 2016. There is an independent world government formed inside the climate change agreements that will be the police for the thing. This so looks like the perfect setup for the AntiChrist.

            All of these things can be found by googling. When you step back and look at the ‘big picture’ and read Bible prophecy, things start fitting into place. I started looking from the time Israel became a nation and their subsequent battles to nationhood starting from 1948. It is very enlightening to say the least.

            We need to be looking up, our redemption draweth nigh….

          • stan-in-usa

            Obama converting to Islam?!??? How can that be when he already IS a Muslim?!???

          • Duder

            He is already

        • I agree with CJHames. We can only pray this “apostle” could learn to clearly communicate. Reading this was like tongues without interpretation, edifying none but the speaker/writer.

      • There were only 12 Apostles, Pat. Your rambling indicates that you aren’t in contact with any of them.

      • Jillxz

        I don’t believe everything I read. Obama is not the Antichrist. He is not popular enough. He is not smart enough. He made a mess out of America. Added to the problems and had no solutions. No way will this man ever be the Antichrist or Secretary General of the United Nations. Don’t believe what comes out of a Kuwaiti newspaper
        Antichrist will surely come , but it won’t be Obama that I am sure of.

        • MRH

          @ Jillxz: You are very naive 🙁

        • Edwitness

          “Comedienne Joan Rivers has died just two months after exposing that President Obama is gay and Michelle Obama a transsexual.”
          You can look it up for yourself and see the interview on YouTube where she said this. She was not joking and neither were they. She’s dead.

        • Kiwiwatcher

          Praise the Lord for Jillxz. Sanity at last

          • Misty Dawn

            You mean denial at last. Turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to what you don’t want to see or hear is easier, I suppose. I hate it too. I have two children growing up in this crazy world. I’d love to say, “Oh, this could never happen. Oh, not in this country! Oh, no this just happened in foreign countries and blah, blah, blah.” I could rationalize it long enough and tell myself that long enough and I MIGHT finally believe it. You know what? The Bible is not a fairy tale book and God is REAL and guess what else? HE”s NOT kidding!!! Reality.

      • nannette

        Patricia Bradford, YOU ARE NOT AN APOSTLE!

      • Dr_Mike

        Two problems here. First, there haven’t been any apostles since John the beloved; second, there were NEVER any women apostles.

        • MRH

          “second, there were NEVER any women apostles” YES 🙂

          “First, there haven’t been any apostles since John the beloved” NO 🙁

          1Co 12:28 KJV – And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

          P.S. If there are no more apostles or gifts, then also there is no more church, and no more salvation either 😉

      • paul

        There are no Apostles other than the 12, plus Paul. You, whoever you are, are a ranting nutcase.

        • MRH

          “You, whoever you are, are a ranting nutcase” YES 🙂

          “There are no Apostles other than the 12, plus Paul” NO 🙁

          1Co 12:28 KJV – And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

          P.S. If there are no more apostles or gifts, then also there is no more church, and no more salvation either 😉

          • thomas

            MRH, you left out Mathias.

          • MRH

            @ thomas: What do you mean? The quoted “*” parts are not my words 😉

          • Thomas

            Oh, forgive me for not recognizing the obvious. My mistake. It proves I’m human, I guess.

        • Thomas

          paul, you left out Mathias.

      • Ron

        Have you heard this one….

        If People would say what they “Mean”

        Instead of “Meaning what they meant”

        They would say “Less Meaning”

        While “Meaning more”

        I am with CJHames.

      • They most definitely are planning on putting him there! Not only that they plan to change the UN to the World Parliament. With all new laws that pretty much goes against humanity and freedom of speech and knowledge. If they think you know to much they will get rid of you.

    • edward

      If Obama is the Queer that is married to a transgender is fact , and he plans to head the U N , the dark countenance , and the shunning the desire and regard for women is a fact , you may be on to some reality concerning current events , Obama planning to run the world through the U N office , could explain why the American leadership cowers before the King. Semper Fi .

      • Jillxz

        Obama is not Gay. Michelle is not transgenered. They are male and female , married and have two children. I don’t care for these two , but calling them names is silly

        • Misty Dawn

          How do you know? Do you know for a fact any more than the rest of us that Obama is “NOT GAY.” Well, maybe he isn’t, or maybe he is, I don’t know and I don’t profess to know. BUT THIS I DO KNOW AND SO DO YOU…he has made his presidency about NOTHING, other than GAY MARRIAGE, ABORTION (COLD-BLOOD MURDER),MUSLIM IMMIGRATION (DEATH AND TERRORISM), GUN CONTROL,(SO THAT WE CANNOT PROTECT OURSELVES FROM TERRORISTS AND MARTIAL LAW) and basically over-turning everything this once great nation was built on and he does not intend to stop until he has had his evil way. Whether or not he is the anti-Christ the Bible speaks about in Revelation (THE Beast -666) I have no idea anymore. To tell the truth, the entire U.S. Government is starting to appear as if there is not one decent human among the leaders and lawmakers we have on capital hill. The left is out to get the right and the right will not stand up for the citizens of this nation anymore nor will they fight hard enough for our civil rights. They could stop Obama from this insane, Adolf Hitler-style “executive order” trash he keeps shoving at us but the people in positions to impeach the maniac won’t make any attempt to do it. What does that tell us? It tells me they are ALL on the same page. If not, then who is going to stop this insanity? Is there not one leader left in this country who will step forward and start the ball rolling to get that marxist out of Washington?

          • MRH

            @ Misty Dawn: Governments have always been evil, as they are of the world.. NOT of God 🙁

            As for Obama as the AC, the evidence speaks for itself.. he is a dictator (and demon). People seem to forget that this world belongs to Satan. He and his fallen angels design and rule it from hidden places. Using human puppets to do their dirty deeds.

            Isa 29:15 KJV – Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

      • MRH

        @ edward: American is Babylon, and the AC is the king of Babylon. Also the UN is the hub of Babylon (NWO).

    • Ysys
    • kevin

      There is a case to be made that the Antichrist is a muslim and I find the evidence makes it very plausible.

      • Skywatcher

        Kevin, I’m in agreement with you on that! Rev. 20: 4 mentions “beheaded”, and today’s events fall right in line for it! With Muslim Ovomit going to the UN and most of the UN members being Muslim nations, this is extremely plausible. In fact, I see absolutely no other alternative being presented! The handwriting is on the wall, but even in Christian circles, there are many deniers.

        However, we don’t need to be focusing on that! Let’s be followers of Christ, and not the media. Let’s keep our focus on Him and stay on top of the boisterous waves, and not go under as Peter did, on that notable day!
        As we both can see here, folks can discuss and debate all day long, “until the cows come home”, as to who the AC is, but it doesn’t matter! We won’t be here to see him, however, when we come back with Christ in the Second Coming, we WILL get to see him get his butt whooped! Oh happy day…

        • Deborah

          That will indeed be a happy day and also when ALL things over, on, and UNDER the earth will bow at the name of Jesus. Wonderful consoling thoughts to keep our hope alive!

        • Edwitness

          Those are significant! I stand happily corrected brother. Thank you for your careful research.

    • Michael

      Hopefully most people will read this and laugh. Read a science book or something other than the bible.

      • Fed Up

        You, sir, are most intelligent.

        • Skywatcher

          Fed Up, while I can share in some of your assessment, you are MOST deceived, if you seriously believe Michael is “most intelligent”! Science books are nothing more than propaganda tools and no more scientific than a check book! “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.” Psa. 53: 1.

          You’ll soon have a holiday coming up, won’t you? I believe it’s called April Fool’s Day.

          • Fed Up

            Science isn’t something you believe in. You guys are crazier than I thought.

        • Edwitness

          Fed Up,
          You are correct. Science isn’t something you ‘believe’ in. So tell me, why does science so-called preach the “theory” of evolution? A theory is a thesis that has not been proven, right? But, science is able to be tested and re-tested with verifiable results.
          This would leave evolution in the category of faith, not science, right? Kent Hovind or Ken Ham are a great resource for someone trying to investigate the “theory” of evolution when compared to the Biblical model for creation. Happy hunting.

          • Fed Up

            It’s not preaching, it’s teaching. There is a lot of evidence to support evolution, unlike Creationism.Creationism is a theory, is it not? And Ken Ham is a loon. Look up the debate between him and Bill Nye.

        • Edwitness

          Fed Up,
          There is not one shred of evidence for evolution. Only the incorrect interpretation of the fossils and rocks. Rocks and fossils do not come out of the ground with a tag giving the date stating their age.
          There are a couple of places in the country that do the kind of testing of fossils and rocks that date them. A few years ago a team of researchers brought a collection of these to them. When they asked them to date them, those who were to do the testing initially wanted to know where each one came from. The researchers, wanting an unbiased test, asked them to date them without that information. They said they would.

          When they got the results back, they found that where some were taken from earth at the bottom of Grand Canyon, and others from the middle and also the top, the results showed that some of those from the same spot in the middle, bottom, or top of the canyon, according to their testing, had as much as 1 billion years in age between them. Also they found, that some taken from the top of the canyon gave readings of more than a billion years in age older than ones that came from the bottom.
          Since the testers did not know where they came from, they were not able to ‘fix’ the test results to match with what so-called science says it is supposed to be. In this one experiment their testing methods, and they used all of them that applied, are proven to be unable to do what the ‘scientists’ tell us they can.
          They also use ‘circular reasoning’ when they determine the age of fossils and rocks. This is how they ‘fix’ the results. Meaning they date the fossil by the age of the rock they were found in. And then turn right around and date the rock by using the age they say the fossils are that were found in them. You call that science?

          Another example is in a book Dr Colin Patterson, who was at the time the senior paleontologist (fossil expert) at the prestigious British Museum of Natural History. He said in Sunderland’s book Darwin’s Enigma:
          ‘I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?’
          He went on to say:
          ‘Yet Gould [Stephen J. Gould—the now deceased professor of paleontology from Harvard University] and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. … You say that I should at least “show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived.” I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.’
          He has millions of fossils at the museum. Of these, not one even infers a possible transition from one kind to another. This is damning evidence for the evolutionist.

          Did you know that a scientist was examining the remains of a T-Rex found in Montana. She found that there was blood in the marrow. When she reported this to her boss, she was told to make positively sure that was what she found. Adding that it could be a carreer breaker for her if she was to report it that way and be wrong. She tested and re-tested. The same results every time. But, with the fear of a possible backlash from the scientific community, (evolutionists) when she presented her evidence she made sure that it was understood that the next step in the process would be to find out how that blood could have remained in the animal for millions of years. They are afraid to report their findings the way they find them. They have to state it in such a way that they don’t put their job on the line.

          This leads to the documentary film by Ben Stein. “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”. He interviewed people from many areas of science and education. Even from journalism. What these had in common was that they had all been fired from their jobs for as little as implying that ‘intelligent design’ or creationism could be true or even considered. The evidence the movie brought out was proof that creationism is not allowed in acedemia. No matter how compelling the evidence is to support it. Get the movie and watch it. One of your heroes, Richard Dwkins, is interviewed in it. You will be surprised at some of his statements about origins.

          Why would science go to these extremes to keep creationism from being taught? The answer comes from a deep seated resentment for the Creator. Like Darwin, most of them are angry at God. In their anger they must find a replacement. In their case, they chose science. They set about to prove there is no God. Probably much like you, thinking that with science there can be no dispute. So they fudge the evidence to fit their desire to prove their is no God.

          A new world order has been in the making for many years. This will be the final world gov’t. Science so-called has for their part prepared the ground for this to happen, by convincing the world that the God of the Bible is a lie. And that we are just a product of some evolutionary process over billions of years. They tell us we are ready for that next quantum leap in the evolutionary process that will make us immortal. If we can just get rid of those ‘unbelievers’, those Christians. Have you ever heard of transhumanism? Or the provision in Obamacare for the chipping of everyone by 2017?

          The choice is your’s. You can trust in something, that when tested, falls miserably short in proving our origins, let alone the of dating rocks. Or you can trust in a God that gave us a record of His creation and His desire for relationship with it, that both inspires and illuminates. The record found in the King James Bible. Proven history and events that were shaped by God’s desire to give mankind the eternal life that science can never produce.

          Genesis 1:1-“In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the earth.” And John3:16- “For God so loved the world (His creation), that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

        • Edwitness

          Fed Up,
          I not only have seen the debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye, I own the DVD. He was great.
          I am hopeful the evidence I gave you in my lengthy reply will lead you to honestly question your ‘faith’ in the evolutionary theory. It is a theory, you know. Not science.

          • Fed Up

            I appreciate you actually giving me information that leads to your beliefs. I respect that. Most of the people I have talked to on here simply want to argue but not give me a reason why. You are the first person to intelligently give me reasons, and for that I say thank you.

            I have studied anthropology, biology, and chemistry. Now, I am not the greatest at these subjects because I am more wired for literature, writing, arts, and humanities. However, I have taken classes and I have friends who are highly educated in these subjects. The age of fossils and rocks are determined by radiometric dating, most people think it is only carbon that can be dated, which in fairness is not exactly accurate, like you mentioned, because it isn’t useful for dating things more than a few thousand years old. However, radiometric dating uses other isotopes by measuring their decay that are more reliable than carbon.

            One of the things that I point to most often in cases of arguments against evolution is the many stages of human evolution, as evidenced by the fossils found of Homo habilis and Homo neanderthalensis, among others, that show how humans have evolved over many millions of years. Some of these species even existed at the same times, and show that slowly the less capable species went extinct while we eventually evolved into Homo sapiens.

            Another point that can be made for evolution is the presence of organs or body parts within the human body that have no function, or appear to be for functions that no longer are useful to use, called vestigial organs, such as the appendix and the tailbone.

            And just so you know, I do not actively fight against creationism. I have no idea how this world was initially created, and I think that’s pretty hard to determine, so I focus on the facts of what I see now and use that as my basis. I see science as a subject that helps me better understand the world I live in, not a belief system.

            Again, thank you for actually giving me information, I do appreciate it.

        • Ron

          Fed Up I would love it if you went to the link listed about

          101 Scientific Facts & Foreknowledge from the Bible

          Fed Up you will be very surprised by what these Scriptures reveal about Creation and there is commentary with them.

          Our Lord Created all the Ordinances by which all things Exist.

          That so called “weak force” that they cannot account for or measure is The Infinite Power of God Almighty’s Holy Spirit that keeps all matter from falling apart.

          Please read you will be very surprised.

          • Skywatcher

            Wow, Ron! That’s an excellent site! I never heard of it before, but I thank you! Excellent material!

      • Jerry C

        I have been reading and studying the Holy Bible for over twenty years. Much time I have spent in Hebrew for the Old Testament and in Greek for the New Testament. Not only have I read & studied in those languages including English, but also using different forms of Gematria (assigning a number to each letter of the alphabet, Aleph Bet). All these things I have done and I am still learning new things from God’s inspired Word that I believe I haven’t even made a dent to understanding everything there is to know. You sir, are clueless; and I mean that with the most humble respect.

        • Excellent posts, Brother Jerry C! God’s Word is truly a wealth of treasure, for those who care to take it seriously, and really want to know! Continue to fight the good fight of faith, Bro! God bless you!

    • cc

      I think all of you are terribly misguided to think, much less believe these things. I do feel sorry for you as there will be a great surprise when you leave this life and move on to whatever is next.

      • TorchBearerForJesus

        CC, what if we are right and you are wrong? What will you do then? I can quote you lots of Scriptures to light your way, but that should be plenty to think about for now. If you’re really interested in knowing the truth as to where we came from and if God has a purpose for each of us, then I and others would be thrilled to help you find your way out of the darkness and into the light of Christ.

    • Ps Alex

      Blessings brother…I have heard of this before but can’t find the source. Could you please add the source of where you are getting this information from, such as a link?

    • Trober

      Many anti-christs had already come in John’s day, I Jn 2:18.

      THE Anti-Christ is Satan himself. Note in Rev 13:1 from the sea (the nations and peoples) the 10-horn/7-king beast arises. But, out of the earth v.11 the lamb that spoke like a dragon. Satan. And, a different origin, perhaps totally unknown where he came from. But, different than all the other leaders and kings.

      Obama over the UN, indeed, has much potential by which the last 10-nation union comes together in this age of sin. He’s certainly an anti-christ figure. And, he’s been punishment (Isa 3:4) for an apostate nation, the USA, from its founding.

      The USA’s purpose appears over, and in large part her religious leaders appear clueless about that.

      The thing to keep one’s eye on is this age of sin is coming to an end. The Kingdom of God is going to reign over the earth including all nations subject to it, Dan 2:44.

      Daniel is largely unsealed. There’s really nothing left but a last 7-year stint of a 10-nation union, with the pope emerging as a head of state (Rev 13:3) as he was in the Holy Roman Empire. (If you’re shocked by that assertion, read the verse. The entire world will be).

      • Jillxz

        The Antichrist is not Satan , but will be indwelt by Satan. Satan will enter the man when he gets a mortal head wound.

      • MRH

        @ Trober: An antichrist is simply a Christ denier.. unbeliever. As for the 10 kingdoms, they are nearly formed. All that remains is the NAU. Also the USA was born by Freemasons on 5/5/1776. And ironically the base of the Statue of Liberty has 10 small spikes and one big spike in the middle.

        • Jerry C

          The 10 kingdoms are already here, who are the 10 Permanent Voting Members of the WEU (Western European Union). Interesting that 3 of them are experiencing an economic collapse or downturn (Spain, Portugal & France I believe).

    • Jack twain

      Wow. I didn’t realize so many people claiming to be Christians were so eager to bear false witness against someone. Then again…the education system in this country has gone down hill lately…so poverty of knowledge is running rampant among the fanatics who don’t understand the bibles teachings or obey their religions teachings…I suppose they go to church on Sunday as well…a pagan day instead of Saturday…the sabath day which god commanded us to keep holy…it would be better for you to learn the truth from the bibles teachings than mix politics with religion…a dangerous proposition..
      Just ask the Jewish people how that worked out for them..peace be with you all

      • Edwitness

        Jack Twain,
        Jesus is the sabbath for those who trust in Him.
        Heb.3:18,19. “…So we see that they could not enter in (to His rest, sabbath) because of unbelief.”
        4:2, “…the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.”
        Vs.3, “we which have believed do enter into rest.”

        • Ron

          Amen to that Edwitness!

    • Edwitness

      I noticed while looking into the books you recommended that these groups also recommended them. I used to listen to Michael Rood with the Rood Awakening ministry. He is very legalistic. I was just trying to see why it is important to you that the gospel of Mathew be read from the Hebrew. And why you think God would allow the harlot religion of Catholicism to pervert His word. From what I have seen there is virtually complete agreement between the two Mathews.

      • Skywatcher

        Edwitness, I took a quick scan through the Hebrew version and saw a couple of significant differences so far. for the most part, what I’ve read, seems to parallel the KJV, but phrased a little differently. I have not actually had the time to sit down and do a side-by-side comparison, but so far, here is what I found, while searching “angels”:

        Mt. 4: 23 “mavangeleo” sounds more Latin than Hebrew to me.

        I will quote the KJV first as I continue below:

        18: 10, “…behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.”
        Heb. Mt.: “…always see the sons of my father. (lowercase “f”)

        25: 41: “everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
        Heb. Mt.: “…into the eternal fire prepared for YOU (emphasis mine), with Satan and his angels.” This contradicts the Holy Bible.

        28: 5 This verse declares Jesus “hung” rather than crucified; not a huge deal, because, the word “hung” is supported by other Scriptures, i.e., “Cursed is the man who hangs from a tree.” Acts 5: 30; 10: 39. There are O.T. refs. which elude me at the moment.

        I will do more study later on this.

      • Jerry C

        There’s a reason why Psalms is the longest book of verses in the Holy Bible. It has 8 verses for each of the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet (Aleph-Bet). Knowing & reading Hebrew will only make the verses deeper and come alive more than any translation. By the way, study the book of Esther in Hebrew acrostics and one will learn why the book was included even though God’s name was never mentioned (at the textual level).

        • Good points all Jerry C. Thanks and blessings:-]

    • timbo

      If I may comment…there is no THE Antichrist. Antichrist is a character type, not a specific individual, or personage.
      The term is used but four times within the Scriptures of the New Covenant.
      John’s use of the term ‘antichrist’ was a label that applied to people teaching certain heresies who were, or had been, associated with the church of his day. Primarily, it was applied to those who denied that Jesus was God Incarnate – that God had come in human flesh (John 1:1, 14).
      What is troubling about some of the comments here, at least to me, is that there’s been mention that Obama is ‘too dumb’ to be of an antichrist spirit. Is it not true that Satan is the ‘father of all lies’ and his ‘deception is boundless’?… well then, do not be deceived and put Obama on, or under, an intellectual, nor spiritual, pedestal.
      For me, I find Spiritual stability in focusing on that which is good and true, rather than on that which is deceptive and misleading.
      Free will is but a gift by Grace, a true expression of Agape Love. Therefore, I but choose to relinquish as such to make room for His perfect will. I will to will the will of God within my spirit.
      Peace, and goodwill to all.

      • Ron

        Reread Revelation the Antichrist is a person

        Revelation 13:6-8 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto HIM to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given HIM over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

        That is an Individual, Who is indwelt by Satan.

        You had best study your Bible better, your doctrine is sorely lacking.

        • Skywatcher

          You preach it, Ron!

      • Jerry C

        There’s are many reasons why God gave us information concerning the Anti-Christ; ignoring them doesn’t make you any more righteous.

    • Louise

      There is no Pre-tribulation rapture. We will not precede the dead, they will rise to meet Jesus in the sky and then those of us still alive will join them in the air. That does not occur until battle of Armageddon…we, Jesus, and the angels go forth to battle. This is towards the end of 7 year tribulations. Then God’s wrath is poured out. Read 2 Thes. and Revelations… Especially chapter 20 I believe. Revelations was given so we would not be deceived by false prophet claiming to be Jesus. ALL will see his second coming and tremble, it will not be secret rapture!

  • James Staten

    Literally the same day the pope calls for a One World Religion!!!

    • Heather

      From kruxnow;

      In 2016, Francis may be a pope in search of a partner

      ROME – When a strong pope with a clear social agenda intersects with a world leader who shares the same basic outlook, and one who’s willing to put elbow grease behind it, sometimes history can change.

      • Edwitness

        I was getting there through a process of elimination. But, you all beat me to it. Geoffrey’s post on Hebrew roots was great. What a blessing.

        • Heather

          Amen Edwitness! I couldn’t help to notice BK’s disdain towards the KJV and towards much of the Body of Christ. Suez needs to seek caution in reading that book she spoke of and I only say this with pure concern.

    • Tusitala

      Amen… the VERY same day. The old dragon, the old serpent, and his minions are slowly tightening the web of their centuries-old plot. Once again to those still mired as I was for decades in the Roman abomination,”Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthinas 6:14-18

      • James Staten

        Tusitala,God Bless you Brother…Look Up for our Redemption is drawing neigh. I can almost feel the “gold dust” on my toes!!!!

  • MorningStar

    All the more reason to get the United Nations out of America and put an end to UN Agenda 21 (or Un Agenda 2030).

    • Thrash

      ABSOLUTELY. The UN needs to go or the US needs to get out of it.

      • MorningStar

        “It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill: but men cast it out. He that that hath eares to heare, let him heare.” Luke 14:35, KJV 1611 Edition


        • MorningStar

          Dare I ask: ‘What difference does it make’ who runs the UN or if it moves to another country? I sense, as do many, that America is in for a very rude wake-up call — therefore we can’t afford to be ‘armchair Christians’ waiting around for a spiritual rescue from what is to come. As I see so much happening to our linear existence each day, I can only pray for the Lord’s guidance and that His will be done through me. For whatever is to come, I doubt that it will be comfortable or pretty. How do we get ready for that? I few articles and links to ponder:

          January 10, 2016
          U.S. Christian Groups Support Muslim Refugees, Ignore Persecuted Christians:

          April 21, 2015
          Obama Accepts Offer (from Erdogan) To Open Turkish Mega Mosque In Maryland (60,000 acres – includes an underground complex):

          Maryland Mosque – Website search:
          (Enter any State into this website’s search engine)

          List Of Mosques In The Unites States:

          U.S. Centers Of Islamic Activity Form Interesting Map:

          U.S. Terror History Map:

          FEMA Centers & Executive Orders:
          (Can’t help to wonder why POTUS will use old military bases for muslim refugees [not homeless Veterans or Americans] and not use the FEMA camps for refugees instead.)

          • Screaming Eagle

            MorningStar, you have raised some very excellent points to ponder! Thank you! You made one comment that has me asking the same question, “(Can’t help to wonder why POTUS will use old military bases for muslim refugees [not homeless Veterans or Americans] and not use the FEMA camps for refugees instead.)”

            Here in Canada, the “refugees” are being given more money when they arrive here than what a great many of the people in my province get to bring home in a year, and we also have many homeless people who are STILL homeless. It’s all part of destabilizing the global economies, to slam the NWO down our throats…those of us who get to live to see it, that is.

            On the farm, if we have rodents coming into the barns, we just exterminate them. Why? Because they’re a hindrance, bringing diseases, ruining things, messing up our routine as we have to stop to clean up after them or to repair what they’ve destroyed. See where I’m going with this?

            It’s too late to exterminate the Muslims as they hope to do to us. The only logical thing is to wait until most of them get here, and then all the N. Americans move to where they came from! Of course, I’m being facetious, but that may not be so far out as one would think. Unfortunately, most of us cannot just pick up and move anywhere we please as they can! Most of us are probably on domestic terrorist lists and no-fly zones, thereby trapping us for the slaughter, just like a bunch of fish in a barrel.

            We’ll keep looking up because Christ is the ONLY solution for this problem.

      • Rodger

        Be careful what you wish for. There is talk already about moving the UN to Israel either to Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. See:

        A perfect storm scenario. Trump becomes President and provides legislation to move the UN to Israel. This provides incentive for Trump to redevelop the valuable real estate that was once occupied by the UN in New York. Eminent Domain? Then Obama now appointed as UN Secretary General moves along with the UN to Israel to set up the police state with UN Troops that governs and occupies the 2 state solution with Israel and Palestine. Obama signs the covenant with Israel which is the prophecy foretold in the book of Daniel 11. By having Obama sign the covenant with Israel will make him the antichrist. A far fetched idea? Don’t know. This scenario may never pan out but it is something I thought about that could possibly happen.

        • MRH

          @ Rodger: Satan rules the world. What happens is planned 😉

        • Oh, Rodger, you are voicing some of the same scary thoughts that keep forming in my head, and I agree with you.
          Christ’s return is the only fix. I just keep lookin’ up!

        • Jerry C

          Certainly plausible. In addition, I have seen plans showing the 3rd Temple without the Outer Court of the Gentiles that allows it to be build right next to the Dome of the Rock. Interesting is the fact that the Dome of the Rock sits where the Outer Court would be; just as the apostle John prophesied in the book of Revelation. Interesting times we live in.

    • scouch

      And the United States out of the UN.

    • Terri

      too late to get out of agenda 21. there is a clause I believe that states once signed you cannot get out of the contract

  • GENESIS777

    Ignored Israel? America gives Israel $10 million dollars a day all based on the lie that
    the jews are the Israel of the bible, meanwhile, the true Israel of the bible who are the
    white western European people are living under bridges or homeless shelters…

    What did God say, anyone who provides not for his own family FIRST is WORSE than
    an infidel…You white European people who support the WRONG Israel are in for one
    hell of a good smack in the face from my Father~

    • Guest

      So are you shmoopsie 😉

    • Don

      Weird….just weird. Gods chosen people are not Gods chosen people, LOL. You bumped your head.

      • GUEST 2

        And bumped it hard. According to Genesis777 Theology, God hates the Jews, the entire Bible is corrupt, and 95% of the entire population are all destined for hell… except for him, of course.

        I find that fascinating because that 95% statistic would mean that God sends millions of children to hell who have yet to reach the age of accountability.

        Also, some of the best and most learned textual critics in the world have taught that our Bibles today are 99.9% accurate to the original autographs. Genesis777 would blatantly state otherwise, yet the same book he lauds as being “corrupted” he also uses verses from to try and prove his wacky arguments.

        If he keeps going around spewing his corrupt doctrine, God’s going to end up smacking Genesis777 in the face too.

    • Al

      When God came to earth as a man he came as a Jew: his son Jesus Christ.When Jesus sets up his thousand year rule it will be out of Jerusalem.not D.C. or Rome.

  • Don

    Obama is not the Anti-Christ, he is like the John the Baptist of Satan. He is preparing the way for he European Leader.

  • Guest

    Pretty sure the AC comes from Rome. Obama doesn’t. I doubt it’s Obama but goodness is he quite the archetype.

    • Well, we don’t really know where he is from now, do we?

      • Tusitala

        No, we do not… did you ever think in your wildest imaginings that we would have a President by whom people would be so ably and simply duped? YES, some of us did, those of us who read the blessed King James Bible.

        • Fed Up

          Question? If he was a WHITE man, would you all question his birth still? Even if he had the exact same policies? Doubt it.

          • Tracy

            @Fed Up,
            This has nothing to do with his skin color. Haven’t you been listening to him, and most importantly watching what he does. He is truly a liar and a deceiver. In addition, none of us really knows where he came from; too much hidden. Too, why did he rise to the highest office of the land in such a short time? Could it be a hidden agenda? Anyway, the Lord and His people win in the end.

          • Samiam

            I will say this he is half white remember! I am sick and tired of everyone playing the race card saying that we Christian wouldn’t be against him if he was white instead of black. He is not all black his mother is white so that makes him half white and half black. So I do not understand how you as well as others say he is black and all white people are racist because of what wecsay about him. If you want to go there then as a white American Christian I am against the white half of him if that helps you sleep better at night!!! He has ruined this country I love. He is not a Christian but a Muslim both halves of him. He is fulfilling the prophecies told of in the Holy Bible. If you cannot get past the racisim and see him for what he truly is( the anti-christ) then I will continue to pray for you. That you will remove the colored racism glasses you are looking through and see him as the thing he is. I pray you will at least look past color and study what he has done and continues to do. If you want to believe Gods word or not is your choice but remember your life and your after life depends on it. May God bless you and lead you to the truth about Obama.

          • FEDUPTOO

            Racism isn’t Christian. Anyone who calls himself a Christian, and is a white supremacist or Black Panther or you name it, is NOT Christian! John 13:34: ” A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.”–New International Version(NIV). And, verse 35: “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”–NIV. Here they are in the New Living Translation(NLT): “So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” And, a suggestion for you and anybody else who has read this message, Check out Blue Letter Bible and research the Bible for yourself. Here’s the URL: I’m fed up too, FedUp. I’m fed up with people who say they are Christians and are not the least bit Christian. If you encounter someone who is a “Holy Roller” or whatever, ask yourself, “Does this guy/gal really know what he/she is talking about?” Shalom, FedUp.

          • Hark

            Yes we would, why do you bring race into it.

      • Thomas

        That’s right! Remember about his birth certificate?

    • Terri

      too late to get out of agenda 21. there is a clause I believe that states once signed you cannot get out of the contract

      • MorningStar

        Terri~ I think that you’re right — but at least there are States trying to back-peddle out of the Communists’ Core Education programs and the costly Obama Health Scare mandates.

        Do you happen to know what/where [in] that particular contract and clause is located?

        I can’t help but to wonder if we have been existing under a ‘triple coup’ of sorts…:

        ‘U.S. Proclamation Makes UN A Sovereign Nation’:

    • Terri

      the AC will come from revived roman empire and the EU actually divided the world into 10 regions. this was done in1980 and i saw on the EU website. the false prophet is in rome largest religion in world and if u read what they actually believe it will be shocking but no surprise that so many does not trust this religion

      • Skywatcher

        Terri, do you not know that Turkey is a part of the Roman Empire? It is the headquarters of Islam, so it makes sense that the AC will be a Muslim. As of late, it has much to say in the affairs governing the Eu and N. America, and elsewhere. This lends a strong credence that Ovomit could actually be the AC. If I’m correct, then that means we can be raptured out in the VERY NEAR future! Ovomit will soon be taking his place on the throne of the UN which governs the world! I don’t know what could be more AC than a Muslim! From what I know, he appears to fill the qualifications quite well. Where is Michelle these days? Nothing is being said about her; is she still in the USA or has she played her part out by appearing to be his wife? What about the children? Where are they? What is happening with them? Were they just stage props to make these creatures appear to be a genuine family, as the “refugees” are doing right now? Hmmm…lots to be considered.

  • ebenezer samuel

    Then all Heads of State and Presidents must be LGBT compliant! The only sound that will be permitted by the UN will be the Islamic call to prayers and the slogan says YES WE CAN!

    • Skywatcher

      ebenezer samuel, of course they are! That’s why they ALL go to the Bohemian Grove in S. Calif. to partake in homosexual rituals, and to offer sacrifices to Molech! That’s old news, my friend! There’s much to prove this on YouTube.

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  • guest

    ya know,thats one thing i notice about the writers and commentors on here, ya’ll really can get very worldly and nasty when its comes to name calling and using every lttle verse in the bible to validate your thinking. but if someone doesnt think like you, their slammed and called lost,a sheeple, moron and so on. i dont care about obama or none you peoples sic politics so dont label me something im not. there is ways to spread the message with decensey and humility without the childish sarcasim and name calling. you might loss readers that dont have a political view and just really want to read news you dont see on T.V. BUT even that is hard to find,smh. this anti crap with obama,pleas,he is still black and black people dont have power in this country. never have,never will,lol. he is a puppet. dont give him so much credit,smh!!!!!

  • Larry / vietnamvet1971

    Son of Satan obama will do his best to lead the Powers that Be to finish off America IF he gets in the UN.

  • NinjaOfFaith

    The Holy Spirit helps guide and direct believers, and gives knowledge that’s not commonly known or even possible to otherwise know at all. This helps protect us from evil, by being able to recognize it despite outward appearances or impressions.

    From the first day I saw Obama on TV, I had a VERY strong sense, spiritually, that this guy was very evil, and would someday be THE antiChrist spoken of and described in detail in the Bible.

    Now, years later, the evidence is overwhelming. It can’t be any more obvious, for Christians anywhere, who aren’t living in denial or sin, who have the Holy Spirit inside them and follow God’s Word. The antiChrist has been revealed by many, many believers out there.

    There is literally no prophecy left to be fulfilled, before the rapture takes place.

    Plus, starting 1-1-2017, ALL Americans must be implanted with an RFID chip (mark of the beast) per the new laws created for Obamacare.

    Obama will take over as dictator of the world, become possessed by Satan himself (if he isn’t already? ) and mandate Obamacare, and the mark of the beast, worldwide. As commander/dictator of the UN, he could use UN forces to enforce his agendas and laws. Including the death penalty for those who refuse the mark. Muslims will be lining up take jobs as executioners of all the dissidents.

    Things in the Great Tribulation will be absolutely horrific beyond comprehension. Nazi Germany and Hitler won’t even be kindergarten play compared to it. Nazi Germany and Hitler will be like a warm, fuzzy babies blanket, compared to the Great Tribulation!

    I pray to God everyday that I will be found worthy to escape all those things that will soon be coming to pass on this earth. I also know that God’s judgements will not be poured out on His believers as we wait for his return and rescue, from the days of judgement on the wicked and evil doers.

    • Julie

      NinjaofFaith where is this info about Obamacare micro chip?

    • hildi

      the rapture is not true. We as believers will be there till the end a light in the darkness and we will sit with Jesus in the judgment on the wicked. Satan has spread the biggest hoax on mankind and we can only pray that the Holy Spirit will open our hearts that we may see and not turn away from God because we believed what Satan has deceived us with and that is carrying our cross for our hope of eternity

      • Skywatcher

        hildi, I feel so badly for you. Seeing that you and others like to discredit the Rapture without any Scriptural proofs, would YOU PLEASE explain to the rest of us on this forum, what John 14: 3 and I Thess. 4: 13-18 mean to you and your other SDA cronies? I’m very serious about this. I’ve never heard anyone of your persuasion explain it before. I’ll be waiting.

        My Church History and Eschatology text books show that the early Church Fathers and the N.T. Church (before John Darby) actually believed the Bible on this point.

        The invitation is extended to the rest of you rapture haters also. Patiently waiting.

  • Charlie RAy

    He is like a bad fly, just won’t go away. Bibi will handle it I’m sure. He will do what the rest of the world won’t do. I stand with Israel!

    • CHERYL

      amen rapture ready!!

  • Skywatcher

    This is old news. Ever since he got into power, he’s been making a monthly call to the UN. He knew he was breaking the law by doing this, because as presiding president, he was not supposed to be entertaining the notion of another office while currently holding a public office:

    This article dates back to Jan. 15, 2013.



  • I hate to break the news but Obama and Netanyahu are on the same team…team antichrist. They each have their respective roles to play to create disorder and chaos(the Hegelian dialectic) – which the antichrist will eventually use to come in and create order(order out of chaos as our dollar bill says). Netanyahu is a freemason and a liar and I believe he falls in the camp of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 jews…false jews…white, non semitic jews(ashkenazi) who say they are jews and play the role beautifully, but are really the synagogue of satan.They hate the Torah and love the wicked Talmud and Kaballah. Real jews are semitic…brown, like lebanese people. They are called Mizrahi. Their are plenty of youtube videos showing how, in Israel the white US and European jews discriminate against the actual seed of Abraham because their skin color is middle eastern. There is DNA testing proving this(done by an ashkenazi jew who is a geneticist at Johns Hopkins!)….Satan’s schemes are deep and wide…do not be deceived.

    The only thing we know is true is the written word of God:

    • guest

      Thank you cause you sound like your really searching for truth. It gets deeper,lol!!!

  • Gina

    All through out his term so many thought could he be the anti Christ but most said “nah he’s not smart enough” or it just seemed too far fetched at the time. but as you said people don’t exactly worship him. Over last month I’ve felt in my heart after all the deviant sinister things he’s done and after his last speech how he spoke about wanting to make more changes to America by the end of his term Ive had a change in my spirit and heart and strongly am thinking he’s a candidate for the anti Christ. Even more so after reading this.

  • “After the Rapture happens, the only people left are the type of people that love and support Obama.”

    Well, Obama doesn’t need a rapture to be elected. The rapture hasn’t come yet, yet Obama was elected as president of the US for a second time. The church is already dead and under the power of the devil. A rapture of the remaining several good people, or the absence of a pretribulation rapture will not do a big change for him, he do what please him anyway…

  • Edwitness

    Rick Wiles at has a really good news segment detailing this story. The radio show of 1/8. He also gave a presentation of how Obama could possibly be the man of sin. “…lightening from heaven”.
    It’s very interesting if nothing else. A great listen.

  • Amber

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Geoffrey! This topic has puzzled me for the past two years! I have read so many articles about Obama being the AC, plus Francis as the False Prophet. My conclusion after much study and prayer is that he is it! Him taking over as the UN SG would fit the bill perfectly! He is also fulfilling the Islamic role of their Mahdi! My confusion has been, ok, so we’re here…where does the Rapture come in, or does it? My faith has been challenged so much! I greatly appreciate your emphasis on the Pre Trib rapture. It is what I’ve held to my whole Christian walk, but lately I’ve listened to a lot of Post Trib belief also. Martus Ministry has a lot to share about Obama as Antichrist. Thank you again! Keep sharing Truth!!

    • MRH

      “where does the Rapture come in, or does it?”

      @ Amber: From my studies it appears that the resurrection occurs mid tribulation at Christs coming. The rapture occurs later after the end begins at Christs glorious appearance. The below passage gives a clue [*] 🙂

      1Co 15:20-24 KJV – But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming [Stage #1 = Resurrection]. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father [Stage #1 = Rapture]; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

      Note: THE END = :: End of the world. Harvest period. Wrath of God. Day of the Lord 😉

      P.S. Obama is the 1st beast, and Francis the 2nd beast, and America is of Babylon. Consider below excerpt and link 😉

      The street design in Washington, D.C., has been laid out in such a manner that certain Luciferic symbols are depicted by the streets, cul-de-sacs and rotaries. This design was created in 1791, a few years after Freemasonry assumed the leadership of the New World Order, in 1782.

      In Europe, occult leaders were told by their familiar spirits as early as the 1740’s that the new American continent was to be established as the new “Atlantis,” and its destiny was to assume the global leadership of the drive to the New World Order. The United States of America was chosen to lead the world into this kingdom of Antichrist from the very beginning. The capital is Washington, D.C., which is evidenced by the preponderance of occult symbols. = Article:

    • Screaming Eagle

      Amber, PLEASE do NOT pay any attention to what MRH says to you about the Rapture! His theology is so messed up in this regard. I just looked up a link he provided in one of his posts relating to this topic, and it was very elementary and SDA propaganda. The link gives NO hint as to whom or what denomination it is affiliated with…that leaves room for suspicion!

      He refuses to consider the many Bible-based evidences given to him, right out of a theology book that prove a Pre-Trib. rapture is indeed the correct position to hold to! If you would like to see these same evidences, please email me at and I’ll FREELY give them to you. There are 38 arguments for a pretribulation rapture, compared to a couple of very weak arguments in support of a mid or post trib. rapture. Then, they are verses taken out of context! Please do NOT believe the Seventh Day Adventist lie that the idea of a rapture originated with Darby! Jesus gives us the first hint to it in John 14: 3, and it’s followed up in Acts 1 at his ascension!

    • MRH

      @ Amber: Ignore Screaming Eagle as he/she is confused 😉

  • Deborah

    That Obama would stay in power as UN head makes complete sense to me. There are many of us that think that he’s going to find a way to stay in power somewhere. After all, he is a power-hungry man. At this point, I readily think that the role of Antichrist is something he has been aspiring to anyway. Since that will follow the Pre-Trib Rapture, he will have no ‘resisters’ to worry about.

  • Kiwiwatcher

    In the early traditions of Judaism – according to Saadia’s description of the future (Emunot we-De’ot) also that of Hai Gaon (Ta’am Zekenim) the person we regard as the antichrist will be heralded prior to his arrival. As a type of ‘John the Baptist’ this man will gather together the children of Israel, march to Jerusalem and after overcoming hostile opposition, re-establish temple worship and set up his kingdom. At some stage he will be slain but resurrected by the arriving anti-christ. (this is their tradition, not my opinion)

    Scriptures well known to the Rabbis and Sanhedrin that relate to a Messiah;

    Isaiah 11:1 “And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:”

    Jeremiah 23:5
    “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.”

    Micah 5:2 “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee (Bethlehem) shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.”

    Isaiah 9:6
    “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

    Messiah shall arrive to an established Temple
    Malachi 3:1
    “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”

    The gentiles will believe in him, while the Jews will be cautious
    Isaiah 8:14
    “And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.”

    He will be heralded prior to arriving (John the Baptist)
    Isaiah 40:3
    The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

  • Heather

    It might explain why we’re all so physically nauseated when we look at his face.

    • Julie

      Good point, Heather! I can’t stand to listen to him either.

    • Deborah

      I become physically nauseated and enraged anytime I hear his voice or see his face. It’s the kind of feeling I experience when I am forced to look at real vomit or hear someone vomiting.

  • Mark

    First of all the antichrist is satan himself the man of sin Isaiah 14:12-16 the king of Tyrus Ezekiel 28. What does 2nd Thess 4 tell you, read it carefully with understanding,Christ will not come until after the antichrist reigns. Jesus comes at the 7th trump, satan comes at the 6th

    • Skywatcher

      Here we go again! Mark, maybe you haven’t seen it happen on this site before, but MANY times we have gone around this mountain of Pre-trib rapture rescue to mid-post-trib. rapture. Like a great many, are you not aware that the Second Coming is a two-fold event?

      The rapture happens first, removing the Bride out of harms way.
      The Second Coming, Christ brings the Bride back with Him, destroying the enemies that are common to Himself and His Bride. Common sense and sound reasoning dictates that we cannot come BACK with Him if we haven’t first been taken out to be WITH Him.

      There are MANY differences between the rapture and the Second Coming. Email me if you would like to see them, and I’ll send them to you FREE! “Freely, freely, you have received, freely freely give.”

    • carson

      on=the anti-christ is satan himself.
      rev 19:20 through rev 20:3, rev 9:1-11, rev 17:8, rev 12:12 shows that the dragon/satan is not the angel from the pit/the beast, the beast is could be said the devils righthand angel or something but not the devil himself.
      the devil can’t be thrown into the lake while being chained up and thrown in the pit at the same time. The beast/AC/angel from the pit is thrown into the lake of fire, the devil is chained up and thrown into the bottomless pit.
      Also rev 12:12/rev 9 and 17:8, the devil is cast down from heaven, the beast comes up from out of the pit..

      the AC possessed of the angel from the pit is totally of the devil yes but the devil is still the devil. Also rev 13 where the dragon empowers the beast..that’d be like the dragon empowering himself if the beast was satan himself.

      something happens after the 6th seal that’s worth a look, rev 7:9-17, add in rev 6 with it’s ‘souls’ and say’s they died and how/why, then rev 20 with it’s ‘souls’ and that they died and how/why, then back to rev 7 and it doesn’t call them souls nor saying they died..they suffered hardships…and came out of what they were IN, came out of the GREAT tribulation, (matthew 24:15-22..abomination THEN Great tribulation), so saw some portion of the beasts era, then add rev 15, they overcame the mark and worship mandate so again saw some portion of his era, yet are somehow in heaven and not saying they died and all prior to the 7 vials of wrath being brought out, and the verse not appointed to wrath.
      Then add study on the 7 seals 7 trumps 7 vials, are the 7 seals called seals of wrath? 7 trumps trumps of wrath? yet the 7 vials ARE called vials of wrath.

      • Mark

        Read Isaiah 14:12-16

        • carson

          Isaiah 14 shows again in rev 12:12 and rev 13:4..they worshiped the dragon..and the beast, so the dragon gets his short time, gets the world to worship him and his manbeast the anti-christ

      • MRH

        @ carson: Satan has his fallen angels running the show, including world and religious leaders and clan 😉

      • Edwitness

        Does the Bible really teach that Lucifer and Satan are the same being? As far as I know the name lucifer is never mentioned in connection with Satan or any of satan’s other names.

        • Skywatcher

          Greetings, Edwitness!

          Maybe I can assist you here a little bit. Satan and Lucifer are one and the same entity. I have a Jewish friend from Israel, and when I spoke to him of Satan, he didn’t know who I was talking about. When I told him that Satan was the devil, he said, “Oh! You mean Lucifer!” In his O.T. Scriptures, that’s Satan’s name. Lucifer is the Hebrew form of his name (helel). I’m sorry, I don’t know how to put the marks over the “e’s”.

          It means “brightness”. This designation, referred to Satan , is coupled with the epithet “son of the morning: and clearly signifies “bright star: (Isa. 14: 12-14). Today, it is commonly mistaken as “Morning Star”, but this is WRONG! That is the title of Christ in Rev. 22: 16, and we definitely know He would NEVER share His title with this vermin or anybody else! This mistake is a result of the counterfeit bibles’ attempt to exalt Satan over Christ.

          There is a very beautiful gospel song out there, called, “Day Star, Shine on Me”. Little do these singers or listeners know that they are praying to Satan! He is the “Day Star”! Day Star and Morning Star are polar opposites.

          I hope this helps. God bless you, Brother! I’m enjoying your very informative posts!

          • Edwitness

            Thank you Skywatcher,
            Your info on Satan/lucifer was helpful.

  • The Abomination Barack Hussein Obama ( BHO ) aka Barry Soetoro is a Devout muslim and muslim brotherhood member and sympathizer, he cannot be a king or ruler!!

    The UN United Nations is Anti-Israel-Yisrael / Anti-Zionism / Very Antisemitism / Anti-Christian and Jewish people / Anti-United States of America Everything / and their AGENDA 21 aka NWO is evil / satanic / demonic possession!!

    Ronald Reagan once said: If we forget that we are “ONE NATION UNDER GOD” then we would be one nation gone under!!

    United We Stand with Israel-Yisrael and our Judeo-Christian Nation United States of America, DIVIDED WE FALL!!

    Please PRAY for our Judeo-Christian Nation United States of America and Israel-Yisrael Everyday Everyone!! “Pray Without Ceasing.” ( 1 Thessalonians 5:17 KJV )!!

    Happy Shabbat Shalom ( Peaceful Sabbath ) Everyone!!

    Love Always and Shalom Everyone, YSIC \o/

    Kristi Ann

    • Suez

      Hi sister Kristi. I don’t know if I would always quote Ronnie Regan as you probably don’t realize he was a 33 degree Mason. He sounded good,,,but as a Mason of the Masonic order, his “god” isn’t our God. He and his wife were also into the occult. Also, you would do yourself good to do a deep study on Zionism…:( They are not true Jews! 🙁 Many blessings to you dear.

    • MRH

      @ Kristi Ann: BHO is his stage name, and he is a king or ruler. All presidents are 😉

      P.S. The USA is not Gods country. It was formed by the Illuminati on 5/5/1776 😉

    • Jack twain

      Ronald Regan also said he could not remember secretly selling arms to Iran to fight a war in central america banned by congress and allowed Ollie north to take the fall to avoid impeachment. Oh well…I guess someone had to sell arms to the devil…Regan may be a bad example

  • Char

    Doubtful that this Obamanation puppet is the A.C. He’s just being used for setting up the path to the A.C. Doubtful also that he’s from the right location to be the A.C. (wherever that is, Hawaii? Kenya? America?) He’s the man without a country. His ego just can’t let himself go back into society like ALL the other presidents have done. If God sets him up to be the Secretary General, then he will be right where God puts him (until judgment day), then God will put him where he’s going permanently and will be co-bunking with the A.C., Satan, and False Prophet. So if everyone is supposed to have this implant by 2017, then I’d say the raptured ones will be out of here before that happens! PTL

    • Skywatcher

      Char, that was well said! Right on the target! I especially enjoy what you said here, “So if everyone is supposed to have this implant by 2017, then I’d say the raptured ones will be out of here before that happens! PTL”

      What I find mighty interesting is that the majority of the United Nations are now Muslim, and Obama is Muslim, wanting to be the next UN Secretary Gen. He will be, and that will bring in the caliphate that they’ve been waiting for! This will pave the way for their Mahdi which IS our Antichrist. Based upon that, it looks like he is the Antichrist spoken of in our Holy Bible.

      There is a movement on foot right now, beginning impeachment proceedings, however, they are NOT the first to do this. There was a black coalition seeking to do the same thing three years ago, and nothing came out of it. Even if he is impeached, it will be too late; the salmon has spawned. He has accomplished his goal of polluting the US/N. America with the seed of these demon possessed people, under the guise of “refugees”, to bring in the NWO.

      Char, again, I believe that you’re correct on this point! The rapture may very well happen before the guillotine drops! “Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus”! And, that He will! Faster than the speed of light!

      • Char

        Thank you Skywatcher. I suppose Obamanation could be the A.C., but I’m still not convinced that we (the believers) will know who he is, but does it sound feasible that he could convince Israel to sign a peace treaty with him, which will begin the tribulation? Right now, he and Mr. Netanyahu are not on the friendliest of terms. I suppose if that’s what God has in mind then it will all work out just the way God has planned it. I am not planning on being here, but unfortunately my unsaved children will be left behind to endure this horrible time, unless they come to the Lord very soon and many others who have loved ones that they are praying for.

        • Heather

          This video was filmed when he was a Senator in 2006. I never saw this until around 2011. When I saw this, I will never forget how I felt. Chills ran down to the core of my being.

          • Tracy

            I saw this clip on NBC Nightly News in June 2006. And again, he was his typical “haughty-minded” self. I had not clue, at that time, who this man was. I didn’t even know that he was a senator from Illinois. I couldn’t imagine this man running for President of the USA less than two years later, but as we all know, he ran, he won and he’s our demon-possessed president. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if he is (selected, elected) UN Secretary General. Too, not really knowing where this man is from, he could very well be THE anti-Christ.
            Stay strong, as Christians we are on the winning team. Praise God now and forever!!

        • Skywatcher

          Char, based upon Scripture, I too, don’t believe we’ll be here to see who the AC is. Yes, it does sound feasible that he could convince Israel to sign a peace treaty with him, especially after he becomes the SGen. of the UN! He’ll have the backing of the UN which is primarily Muslim countries! As for these world leaders and the various shows they’re performing for us, do NOT be deceived!

          They are all at the Bilderberg meetings where they plan these events, and then hope the shock value will deceive the masses into believing it’s all non-scripted, unforeseen, and necessary. From the ludicrous polls I see Mark Dice asking people on the streets, and their insidious and unreasonable responses on YouTube, I’d have to say any thing is possible when it comes to controlling the minds and the will of the people! They have lost all sense of really hearing what is being said, what is reality, what is dangerous to them (texting while walking or driving, etc.). Obama and Netanyahu are both Freemasons; they are bound by the “brotherhood”, and we are an audience watching a show…a show that will see billions murdered by their leaders if Christ doesn’t come SOON!

  • Al

    The Muslims believe setting off a nuclear bomb will bring back their muslin Messiah.which is the anti- Christ.thanks to Obama they will develop nukes.if Obama isn’t the anti-christ,He sure has Satan’s spirit in him influencing every thing he does.everything that’s happening in America and the the Muslim takeover of so many countries,U.S.A,is on the verge,points to the fact we are very close to the makes me sick inside that America is throwing out the real God,Jesus Christ,and accepting a false religion that believes he was just a man.I’ts a sad fact that Satan runs America now.

  • Sherri

    I didn’t like Obama from the start and like him much less now. I was astounded to watch this man, who came seemingly out of nowhere with sealed records, be lauded “a great eloquater” (ala Hitler?) and overturn the Clinton political machine. And let’s not forget that he was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize. REALLY?!!! It seemed he could no wrong then and it seems that he can, and does, everything in his power to destroy our country with a complicit Congress. This UN move does not surprise me. As disturbing as this is, I know God is in complete control. Proverbs 21:1

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  • Jeff

    I’ve heard people state that they think Obama is the antichrist and while he clearly has a spirit of antichrist I didn’t believe that he was. However now that this story has hit, I have had to rethink this possibility and once I watched this youtube video, I’m becoming convinced that he just might be. I found this on accident while looking for another video and I must say it’s an eye opener to say the very least. Take a few minutes to watch it. Someone has done their homework on Obama that’s for sure.

    • MRH

      @ Jeff: What many folk forget is that Satan owns and rules this world through his fallen angels, and this has been the case since mans fall back in the garden. Satan is using the elite and others as puppet hosts to bring in his NWO agenda. Therefore all world leaders and clan are nothing more nor less than satanic entities.. cloaked demons wearing halos. Sadly the general population is deceived having no spiritual insight. Anyway, here’s another Obama puzzler to ponder 😉

    • jerry

      Thank You jeff, that was very interesting!

    • Deorah

      Interesting! If Obama is truly AC, this means I no longer have to feel guilty that I do not pray for him for ANY reason.

      • DeBorah

        I can’t believe I misspelled my own name. I am trying to type with a broken hand.

  • PretRibber

    I am not one to make predictions. The Lord is coming back very soon I do know this. Obama is ramping up and The pope is a Jesuit who is part of a secret order to take down the church.
    I recently saw a video of a Jewish boy who does for 15 minutes and claims he saw ww3 starting and Obama was gog also the white horse from revelation. He said its months from happening but will happen, he also saw the two witnesses in his dream. I think Geoff is right if we/church get raptured satan can execute his plan.
    Here is the video:

    • Dan

      Good video Pretrib. The only thing is ; much of what this boy claims is solely based on the Jewish belief and not the belief of Christians. So if what this boy believes he saw is to be true then Jesus wasn’t the messiah and instead the messiah is the one in this video. I mean it’s interesting that this boy claims Obama is about to start WW3 but is the messiah this boy speaks of really the messiah ?

      • James

        He is speaking right out of the new testament book of Revelation and Armageddon. When Christ returns the Jewish people will see Him as their Messiah too. Yes, the boy may be talking about “works” for salavation, however that is his understanging at this point. But what the young man is saying rings true, especially if you look at it through his Jewish perspective. Don’t over analyze. Pray about it.

        • Dan

          James from what this kid is saying Jesus is living in Israel right now; is that what you believe?
          Overanalyze ;really? Maybe you should watch the video again.

    • TheGreatTroy


      When was this video made ?

      • Pretribber

        The boy had his experience September 11 2015. I believe the video was made in December-
        Time will tell if this boys vision was accurate, he did know a lot of scripture and pointed to Jesus in his description of the Messiah.
        Either way we are in the very last days and must stay focused on Jesus

  • Dan

    Well here it is. Some of us made this claim on NTEB almost 2 years ago. Obama would step into the role of UN SG right

    after leaving office. Well guess what he’s doing just that. I believe Obama will continue to destroy America in ways we

    will not believe to be true. Again there is no subtlety coming from the deceiver ; no it’s right in our faces Christians.

    What will be the proverbial nail in the coffin ? Hillary Clinton becomes the next president of the United States O A.

    I don’t know about you but now I’m a little nervous.

    • Skywatcher

      Dan, she may have quite a time pulling that one off from prison! There is much about the Benghazi incident that she and Obama were both involved in that may see them both indicted. The feathers are just about to hit the fan in this regard. In fact, from what I’ve been reading, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see her drop out of the presidential race…

      Nothing wrong with being nervous, brother! That’s a God-given instinct to encourage people to flee or to fight! I trust the latter will be the case, because for the whole world…there is NO place to flee.

      Ovomit is so blessed by Satan, that he cannot lose, no matter which way he turns. He won’t go to prison for the surplus of 78 crimes he’s committed since taking over the dictatorship. He has caused the USA to implode, and he has brought in instability among her own people via millions of Mexican and Muslim implants. This is one time when M & M’s are not going to be candy to the palates of the country or continent! We, here in Canada, are just now starting to realize that there is opposition to the “refugees”, and of course, preventative measures “are being put into place to curb this kind of anti-Muslim activity”.

      Very bittersweet day for all of us, but we KNOW that nothing happens without God’s approval first! Don’t you or others on here worry! God has an escape plan already in place for those whom He loves and calls His own! Daily, I have to remind myself of this! I may come across as a very strong follower of Christ online, but I still have a fleshly house that I live in; I still have the same concerns as those who do not have Christ. However, I have a blessed hope, in a blessed Savior who has never missed a blessed beat! Everything that is happening now, is a preparation for our homecoming! Be encouraged!

      • Kiwiwatcher

        Wish you well in your neck of the woods Skywatcher. Likely to only be a light feather duster regarding Clinton/Benghazi/emails and now public corruption involving the Clinton Foundation.

        The result is already in – An extension investigation has concluded that while some inappropriate practices were carried out, there is insufficient evidence that Hillary Clinton has deliberately broken any laws. A significant portion of the grey area is solely due to the rules that Clinton has to follow – which are not clear. We recommend clearing up the ambiguity so that future members can follow strict guidelines that are not open to individual interpretation. The FBI have concluded that due to an absent of proof – there is no evidence a federal crime has been committed.

        In the meantime – the Bureau intend holding numerous interviews, flying about the country and staying in lavish hotels, leaking some progress reports, our good-looking staff will be giving interviews and hopefully we can expand ourselves to spend all the funds allocated to this investigation, and some.

        • Skywatcher

          Oh, Kiwiwatcher, thank you, for the well wishes. Why don’t those results surprise me? I was so hoping she would be brought to justice. They really do cover for their own, don’t they! I have a gut feeling this is not over yet. Something will surface to reopen the case. Either way, they won’t escape God’s judgment…before the whole world to see.

          • Kiwiwatcher

            Skywatcher – no! – no press release has occurred. I was pre-empting the result with a press release of my own. An apology for being misleading.

        • Skywatcher

          Kiwiwatcher, you were so convincing in your “prophetic” scenario! You should be a writer! Thank you, for setting me straight on it! 🙂 We’re one day closer to home than we were yesterday! Blessings!

  • BK

    Obama is not the antichrist – never will be!
    Pope is not the antichrist either – never will be!
    [And no, the antichrist name is not Judas either – he was a prophetic picture – something to learn from]

    Those who believe that either one is the AC fails to understand the prophetic significance of Antiochus Epiphanes’ act of offering a pig on YHVH’s altar after taking over Jerusalem – it is a prophetic picture of something that “shall come to pass”.

    Antiochus Epiphanes means “God Manifest”.

    Now, fast-forward to present day …

    Rev. 9:11

    “And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the “GREEK” tongue hath his name Apollyon.”

    Apollyon is GREEK! – We’re told this for a reason.

    Antiochus was a ‘GREEK’ king who worshipped GREEK gods.

    The original HEBREW NT was ORDERED to be RE-written in GREEK for a reason!

    (The Hebrew NT was probably destroyed right afterwards)

    STUDY !!!

    As a whole, the Church is deluded and therefore can’t recognize the (coming) AC.

    This is because YHVH has deluded them! –

    “…10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the “truth”, that they might be saved.”

    The word “truth” in that verse is not capitalized!

    That word is NOT speaking of Jesus – If it was then it would be capitalized!

    The word “truth” is speaking of an un-righteous lie that is being taught (and believed) by the Church!

    You MUST study history –

    “9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is NO NEW THING under the sun.

    You MUST study Babylon doctrine – so you can understand her DOCTRINAL lies and then you can recognize them!

    “Come out of her, my people…” – This is a LAST warning!

    If you choose to believe Babylon lies then YHVH won’t reveal HIS TRUTH to you!

    “The SECRET THINGS belong to the LORD our God, but the things REVEALED belong to us and to our sons forever…”

    Only YHVH can reveal the secret things that have been HIDDEN.

    “The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure HIDDEN in the field, which a man found …”

    The AC is not a mystery to those with (spiritual) “eyes to see and ears to hear” what the Spirit speaks.

    The AC was revealed in the OT and throughout the Bible into the NT!

    He’s not hard to recognize!

    Unless you’re believing lies!

    • Mark

      The antichrist is none other than satan himself Rev 12:7-9, read Isaiah 14:12-16 its the first witness to Rev 18

      • BK

        Rev. 13:18

        “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”

        A MAN –

        But you say Satan is the antichrist – ‘so be it’ (unto you).


        WHO he is isn’t the real problem – knowing who he is , BY NAME , is the problem!

        Does anyone honestly think that this false “angel of light” will actually be called Satan?

        Could Satan on earth, being KNOWN/CALLED Satan, actually fool anybody?

        Moses clues us about him.
        Daniel clues us about him.
        Paul clues us about him.
        And then John “points his finger” directly at him in Rev.13!

        John never wrote down “666” as his identity – he wrote down a “symbol”, and hellenized GREEK translators changed the symbol to it’s gematria equivalent of 666. This is just one way that the Babylon Whore hides her antichrist!
        The Whore has you looking for 666 instead of learning HOW to decipher the AC’s symbol!
        (Who says the KJ is without error? – there are many!)

        Knowing HOW to decipher the symbol is the key to the AC’s name!
        And that takes a “specific” type of wisdom and understanding that is found IN THE BIBLE!

        This is why John wrote “Here is wisdom, let him who hath understanding” IMMEDIATELY before writing the symbol!

        “Here is wisdom, let him who hath understanding…” Rev. 13:18

        This is, BY FAR, the most LEAST understood phrase in the Bible!

        [This phrase is a true litmus test to determine if someone truly understands Revelation.]

        Practically NO Christian understands it’s BIBLICAL meaning…BIBLICAL meaning!!!

        They completely overlook it as referring to “ordinary” wisdom and understanding!

        No wonder they don’t know who the AC is!

        Also, Daniel tells us that “Satan” will change ‘times’- This refers to ‘time’-lines as well.

        Babylon has you looking in the future for his identity while YHVH has already revealed him (from the past).

        Revelation means “REVEALED”.

        YHVH has not kept me in the dark concerning the AC.

        My God is a God of LIGHT!

        God REVEALED him in REVELATION – and uninspired GREEK translators PURPOSELY mis-translated his identity to deceive humanity.

        The identity of the AC is NOT a mystery.

        Unless you’re believing lies.

        • Mark

          Read the 6th seal satan shows up read the 6th trump satan shows up read the 6th vial satan shows. Do you know who these people are that decieve they are called kenites the sons of Cain. I’m very aware of God’s word I don’t believe lies God gave me disearnment to see thru the lies and false preachers, satan is coming here to earth in Jerusalem and stand in the temple claiming to be God 2Thess 4.Rev 12:6-8 tells you how he gets here, he will act like Christ do miracles like Christ even if it were possible to deceive the very elect Mark 13 so if you think that the antichrist isn’t important then your already deceived

        • Skywatcher

          Alright., BK, since you appear to have it “altogether” and not subject to the lies you say we are all influenced by, why don’t you just save us a lot of time and trouble and tell us who the real AC is, please?

          • Thomas

            There must be a Temple in Jerusalem BEFORE the Antichrist appears. Yet, Christians are supposed to live knowing that Christ’s return is IMMINENT!

        • Thomas

          Some manuscripts read “616”.
          There are many Bible helps at:

          • BK

            666 or 616 ?

            It doesn’t matter!

            John NEVER wrote down any number at all!

            He wrote down a SYMBOL !

            I have found that the best help is THE TRUTH !!!

          • MRH

            @ Thomas: 666 is noted in all BLB versions. Also logical from a number standpoint, especially concerning the occult. In fact 666 commonplace in occult symbolism, whereas 616 is never used. Anyway, in biblical numerology 6 stands for man or mankind. I personally believe that 666 is a network number, which is tied to the NWO. Which is ruled by the Antichrist. Anyway, below link reveals much insight into 666 mystery 😉


          • Skywatcher

            Thomas, in reply to my post to BK, you said, “There must be a Temple in Jerusalem BEFORE the Antichrist appears. Yet, Christians are supposed to live knowing that Christ’s return is IMMINENT!”

            I agree with you.

            So, what’s your point? How does your statement relate to my challenge to BK? He seems to know WHO the antichrist is, in his very arrogant way, so I was asking him to save those who want to know, the time and trouble and clue us in, which he didn’t bother to do. I called his bluff!

          • BK

            If you want to believe John wrote 616 or “666” then, … by all means, … believe it!

            I don’t really care!

            And, If you want to ignore YHVH’s command to “Study” because you’re too lazy to spend the time studying yourself and want someone else to do that for you and tell you who he is, then you won’t get any more help from me than what I have already given you.

            “Natural-lazy” man is bad enough … But, “Spiritual-lazy” man is the worse ! … and YHVH won’t look upon you with His Face!

            YHVH is a SPIRIT !

            And it’s the HOLY SPIRIT that REVEALS TRUTH !

            Revelation means REVEALED … not hidden!

            [ Ever read the Greek New Testament? … I didn’t think so! ]

            And then again, according to the MESSIAH, the Kingdom of Heaven is apparently NOT for everyone to know :

            "He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to "them" IT IS NOT GIVEN."

            ... because "they" seeing SEE NOT; and hearing "they" HEAR NOT, NEITHER DO "THEY" UNDERSTAND.

            And in "THEM" is (present tense) fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND; and seeing ye shall see, and SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:

            For THIS PEOPLES HEART IS WAXED GROSS, and their ears are DULL OF HEARING, and "their" eyes THEY HAVE CLOSED; lest at any time "they" should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART, and should be converted, and I should heal "them".

            But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear."

            I bet you don’t even know what “understand with their heart” means!

            If, in these last days, during “the time of the end” when the Book of Daniel is un-sealed and you don’t know who the AC is – Then you are most likely …one of “them” !

            Not everyone is given the Ac’s identity because … THEY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE LIES ! …

            And THAT will cause someone’s heart to WAX GROSS, and cause their ears to become DULL OF HEARING, and cause their EYES TO CLOSE quicker than anything you know!

            Just keep on believing the lies spewing from the modern-day Babylonian mouthpieces!

            Like I said … I don’t really care!

    • Jack twain

      Great post bk…you restore my faith that some people do study the word and think independently instead of following the blind blindly…god be with you

      • BK

        @ Jack twain

        Thanks Jack!

        It never ceases to amaze me at the LACK of faith that (self-professed and so-called) “Spirit-filled”
        believers (?) have in YHVH’s WORD!

        They would rather believe a “man of God” (preacher, teacher, scholar, etc.) who has been taught by the Jesuit-based colleges and seminaries than seek the Truth from YHVH Himself concerning the antichrist (or other truths).

        You CAN’T get the truth from a Jesuit-based, Babylonian lie!

        You HAVE TO go to THE SOURCE of the truth !!!

        “When the Spirit of truth comes, HE will guide you into all the truth” … ALL truth.

        NOT ‘some’ of it – ALL OF IT !!

        It is the role of the Holy Spirit to reveal what is true in a world that is ruled by lies and corrupted Scripture!

        This is why they are left GUESSING about the AC’s identity! …

        Pope = 666
        Ronald Reagan = 666
        Keanu Reeves = 666
        Prince William = 666

        And the list goes on, and on …

        Now it’s Obama!

        What a joke!

        Satan plays them like a fiddle!

        They are so much in the dark that they don’t know what antichrist really means and his purpose.

        He doesn’t come to deceive Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, etc.
        That’s a no-brainer for him to do – they’re lost already!

        He comes to deceive BELIEVERS of God’s Word!

        He comes as a (false) Savior TO THE CHRISTIANS!

        How brain-dead do you have to be to believe that Obama could actually be a Savior to true Christians?

        My ten year old grandson can take the (corrupted) KJ’s and prove the identity of the AC!

        The Kingdom of God is HIDDEN – Matt. 13:44

        Hidden by Babylon’s Whore!

        The Holy Spirit REVEALS it to TRUTH SEEKERS – not self-centered, self-righteous, “salvation seekers”.

        Seek Truth and Righteousness and THEN Salvation becomes a gift!

        This why many are called but FEW are chosen.

        People are taught that going to church and giving your life to Jesus automatically gives you the mind of Christ…

        That’s just one of the many lies from the mouth of the Whore!

        God REVEALED the AC in Revelation with a symbol – not “666”.
        To decipher the symbol takes SPIRITUAL ‘wisdom and understanding’ (Rev. 13) that IS FOUND in the Bible!

        It’s really simple once YHVH has caused His Face to SHINE (give light) upon you.

        Self-centered salvation seekers keep ‘dividing’ God’s Word with a natural mind and don’t know how to divide God’s Word SPIRITUALLY!

        “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned”.

        “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth”.

        The AC is not a mystery to everyone.

        Blessings to you, Jack.



        [This post was written in a hurry]

        The only ones who are ‘in the dark’ about the identity of the antichrist are “IN THE DARK” themselves …SPIRITUALLY !

        • Suez

          BK. Amen Brother Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

          • BK

            @ Suez

            Hi Suez,

            Here’s more proof that YHVH has REVEALED the antichrist from long ago:


            “REMEMBER THE FORMER THINGS OF OLD: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

            DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, and FROM ANCIENT TIMES the things THAT ARE NOT YET DONE, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:” – Isa. 46


            God has declared the end from the beginning… this includes the AC!

            Is God a liar?

            Of course not!

            Time is linear.

            But God’s PROPHETIC timeline is CYCLICAL !


            “The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.” – CYCLICAL LESSON !

            The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. – CYCLICAL LESSON !

            All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. – CYCLICAL LESSON !

            The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be (CYCLICAL); and that which is done is that which shall be done (CYCLICAL): and there is NO NEW THING (ALREADY DECLARED/REVEALED) under the sun.

            Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it HATH BEEN ALREADY of old time (CYCLICAL LESSON), which was before us. ” – Eccl. 1


            God does not keep true believers (who seek His Face and not His hand) in the dark!

            Like I posted before…

            Moses clues us of him.
            Daniel clues us of him.
            Zechariah clues us of him.

            And others in the OT do also.

            Paul clues us of Him.
            Jesus clues us of him.
            And John actually REVEALED him in Revelation!

            Those who believe that the AC will be revealed in the future means that they are believing Whorish lies and by doing so is tantamount to calling God a liar!

            “God forbid: yea, let God be true, but EVERY MAN A LIAR; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.” – Romans 3:4

            GOD IS TRUE! … and HAS NOT kept true believers in the dark about the AC!

            The Whore is a liar!

          • SUEZ

            Hi BK. I believe you BK. I’m seeking God only, for HIS truth! I don’t have it all together yet, but I’m learning and some of it is hard to swallow. Only because, it takes a while to try and get all the lies and man made opinions, and beliefs out of our thoughts. But with Yeshua’s help I’m getting there. So much to relearn!! Have you ever heard of the writing of Hebrew Mathew? Later. 🙂

          • BK

            @ Suez

            Hi Suez,

            Your last post to me made my heart jump with joy!

            Yes! – The bitter TRUTH is harder to swallow than a sweet lie!

            But that will change.

            You asked if I have ever heard of “the Hebrew Matthew”?

            If you mean, Have I ever heard of “the book of Matthew being written in Hebrew”?

            The answer is YES! … By more than one respectable historical source.

            Early historians wrote of first-century believers who were, and I quote; “still reading Matthew in Hebrew, as it was ORIGINALLY written”.

            The whole NT was originally written in Hebrew and was ordered to be re-written in Greek, by UN-inspired Greek translators.

            Once you understand WHO ordered it and WHY, then it becomes easy to correct…

            This is where (specific) history becomes your best friend.

          • Suez

            Hi BK, me again. Your posts are like a breath of FRESH AIR to me! I admit, I’m not a brainy-act, I had to look up that word CYCLICAL, to which I found different meanings of it,:) I did get that it must mean cycles, right? Sorry, I’m not a college ED. student, just a high school grad.! 🙂 Plus I’m getting older. 😉 Anyway, I so agree with everything you have stated. I wish I could correspond with you besides on “here”. Some days, I don’t even know why I come here, but then I seen you and was blessed! Otherwise it is mostly arguing and strife, with everyone believing they have the truth, and not even realizing how duped they really are. I say that in all humility, as I was one of them in times past. I don’t say it to put anyone down. I have one person out of state, that is also seeking the Real Truth, that I shared your comments too, and we were both Praising YHVH for them! Finally, someone else seeking, and speaking what we have been seeking and learning! Someone who “gets” it! It is a hard, slow process, especially to re-learn everything we “thought” we knew! I don’t listen much to “preachers”, as they nearly all are teaching all the lies we have been fed all these many, many years. But, we have found a Karaite Jew, and a Christian man that are working together, can you imagine? They are best friends, and respect each others faith, and study the Hebrew texts together. They do have video’s, and have written a few books which I am reading. WOW, opening my eyes! Anyway, I appreciate your truthful knowledge you have gotten from the Holy Spirit. I am so trying to seeking HIS truth, whatever it does to my ego…LOL Sometimes it is like a punch into the old flesh man for sure! Yeah! I need it. We, as Christians can think we know so very much, and tend to want to correct others, to our way of thinking, but then to have the rug pulled out from underneath you, and realize, you really didn’t know squat, about a lot of things, is very humbling, which is a good thing! I thank YHVH and his Son Yeshua for opening my eyes, on so very many things. His REAL name for one, and how we been so led astray on that is mind boggling! I have such a long way to go, but I’m farther than when I began! But, it wasn’t until I started praying for him show me HIS truth, and rid me of preconceived idea’s, that my journey to finding the TRUTH really began. It is amazing, and at times, unsettling. Humbling, and reaches into your very soul! Praise his Holy Name forever. I hope somehow we can communicate outside of here, your such a blessing to me, and I so appreciate you, and your words of wisdom. Yours in Yeshua’s name. Sue

          • BK

            @ Suez

            Hi Suez,

            A correction is due …

            In my haste I quoted from memory an early “church father” regarding Matthew written in Hebrew.

            My misquote was:

            (early believers were) “still reading Matthew in Hebrew, as it was ORIGINALLY written”.

            My memory was incorrect – I apologize!

            Below is the correct quote about the early believers –

            “…. They have the Gospel according to Matthew in its entirety in Hebrew. For it is clear that they still preserve this, in the Hebrew alphabet, as it was originally written.”


            P.S. – I’ll respond to your latest post to me shortly – I have technic issues right now.

          • BK

            @ Suez

            Hi Suez,

            When I read your last post to me my heart almost jumped out of my chest!

            You sounded a lot like me!

            YHVH had me coming to this dead site for “ONE” reason only!

            You are that “ONE”!

            you are one of YHVH’s chosen FEW!

            YHVH called me out of Babylon years ago and He’s calling you out too!

            Just like He done with Abram!

            You wrote:

            “Finally, someone else seeking, and speaking what we have been seeking and learning! Someone who “gets” it! It is a hard, slow process, especially to re-learn everything we “thought” we knew!”

            Yes … it’s a slow process, but that’s how Father teaches.

            But, not to worry! … He’s calling and teaching you according to HIS timeframe for you PERSONALLY !

            His timing is always PERFECT!

            I would love to communicate with you privately.

            I give Mr. Grider permission to send you my e-mail address… privately, of course.

          • Suez

            BK. Thanks for your kind words. I don’t look at myself that way of coarse, but I know I want only the truth, and am willing to toss every man made idea I have ever known. So, that alone does set one apart, I guess. 🙂 I hope Geoffrey will send me your email, as I give him my permission also do so so. IF he will, if not, I will post mine and pray the Father protects it from weirdo’s. LOL Can’t wait to fellowship with you. In Yeshua, s

          • Suez

            BK Doubtful Geoff is going to help us out…:( My email is: Hopefully all will be well with this. s Please put your name from BK in the subject line, so I know it is you! Thanks

    • Edwitness

      Please tell us BK, where is the “original” letter or fragments of Mathew that was originally written in Hebrew?

      • Suez

        @Edwitness. Hi Ed, Sorry, I’m not BK, but if I could offer some help also. BK, may offer some other or better help also. But, for me, it is a long story, to much to write, but if your willing to learn and really find out the truth on this, I can refer you to a couple of books, I’m reading, that tells a lot about it. They have found most all of the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew, then for “reasons” if you get my drift, it was translated into Greek and then into English. Of coarse we can’t leave out the Aramaic, and Latin also.,whee! Anyway a couple books on Amazon will help open your eyes: A Prayer To Our Father, (Hebrew Origins of The Lord’s Prayer), by Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson. They are best friends, although one is a Karaite Jew, and one a Black Christian man. If you don’t know, as I didn’t, a Karaite Jews believe the Hebrew Bible to be the perfect Word of God, but, consider the rabbinical traditions to be nothing more than the non-binding interpretations of men! In Hebrew Karaites mean “Scripturalists”! As they stick only to the Hebrew Word of God and don’t mix it with passed down traditions of men, like the “oral” that some Jews apply too also. Anyway, the book is packed with awesome things! The other one, which I haven’t gotten yet is:
        Howard, George I hope this helps! Blessings, s

        • Dan
          • Suez

            Dan, thanks so much!! I did order the book, but haven’t gotten it yet. I can’t sit and stare at a computer screen that long, it’s to hard on my eyes and back! 🙂 I prefer books, so I can sit in my comfy chair with my feet up, and relax!! LOL But, I so appreciate your information! Thanks again! I am also building a library, so just in case, if the SHTF and the lights go out, I have a lot of reading to keep me occupied! :}

          • Dan

            Your welcome Suez. I do understand the benefits a book has over a computer screen.

        • Edwitness

          There are no original Hebrew fragments or manuscripts of Mathew’s gospel. So how can anyone claim to have them now?
          This site shows why the manuscripts we do have of Mathew’s gospel can be trusted:
          Kieth; title- Gospel of Mathew….in Hebrew? #2

          “From the original Hebrew text of Mathew preserved by Shem-Tob we come to the final question. That is whether the Greek Mathew is a translation from the Hebrew. This does not appear to be the case….It appears that Mathew wrote two editions in different languages, of the same traditional material, neither is a translation of the other.”
          So both are originals. If in fact there ever was a Hebrew “Mathew.”

          A Christianity that saves coming from a Hebrew Mathew that differs from the salvation that comes from the Greek Mathew when comparing the two gospels can not be produced.
          The most that can be said is that they are saying the same thing in two different languages.

          I have not looked at the other book yet that you recommended. But I plan to.

      • Edwitness

        I wonder, are you associated with 7th Day Adventists or possibly Michael Rood?
        There is a strong dependence on the law with faith with both of these. And whether in Hebrew or Greek there is no way to make Paul say that the law can be mixed with grace.

        • Suez

          WOW! And when did I ever mention the law??? I’m perfectly familiar with Pauls teachings, thank you very much! And NO, I am not SDA, and I don’t know who M. Rood is! Anything else you wish to know about me??? 🙁

        • Heather

          Hebrew Roots.

  • Eli

    The Secretary General of the United Nations cannot be from one of the five permanent Security Council members, which means that Barack Obama is ineligible to become Security General.

    • James Staten

      that’s when the Kenyan Birth Certificate will come out!!! chuckle, chuckle

    • Skywatcher

      Too easy, Eli! They just make up a new name for the head of the UN! Voila! Monsieur Obama, Regent Emeritus! Or, they create a new position to stick him in, AT the top! Don’t forget…it’s not all about the UN! Above that, is the Planetary Governance and the Earth’s Constitution to be considered! It is run by a mere handful of people! It’s like something straight out of the original Star Trek…”Federation”.

    • Skywatcher

      Too easy, Eli! They just make up a new name for the head of the UN! Voila! Monsieur Obama, Regent Emeritus! Or, they create a new position to stick him in, AT the top! Don’t forget…it’s not all about the UN! Above that, is the Planetary Governance and the Earth’s Constitution to be considered! It is run by a mere handful of people! It’s like something straight out of the original Star Trek…”Federation”. In fact, in that series, they were giving us a sneak preview of this to come in our future!

    • carson

      the USA is permanent member, not it’s president. so a seated leader of USA, or russia, or china or france, couldn’t head the UN, but if they left their seat/office of their respective country then they could since it’s the nation which is permanent member and not men that make up permanent members…?

    • Kiwiwatcher

      All 193 member states will for the first time be ‘included’ in the selection of the next UN secretary general. From reading between the lines, this possibly means ‘rubber stamp’ the recommendation from the security council. Candidates will have the opportunity for informal dialogue, prior to the council beginning its selection process this July.

      The process has already started and candidates are expected to have developed polices on the Sustainable Development Agenda, peace and security, and other issues. A letter has been sent encouraging member states to consider presenting woman, as well as men for the position.

      A successful candidate must secure the affirmative votes of nine of the fifteen members of the Security Council, including all five of its permanent members (the P5 – Russian, China, France, UK, USA) who all have a right of veto. The other revolving membership are currently held by Angola, Egypt, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Senegal, Spain, Ukraine, Uruguay, and Venezuela.

      The growing campaign for the UN to choose its first woman Secretary-General is now a major factor in the race. Each of the eight Secretaries-General so far has been a man and it would be difficult to argue that the UN had given “due regard” to gender equality if it appointed another man next year.

      Using a rotation cycle, the aim had been to appoint someone in 2017 from the Eastern Bloc region. Irina Bokova, a Bulgarian, who currently leads UNESCO, has previously been touted as the front runner but according to UN inside-observers – she lacks charisma, which is listed as a desirable trait, and is not an inspirational speaker. Several other candidates from Eastern Europe definitely have their hat in the ring. Slovenia’s Danilo Türk, Croatian Vesna Pusić, Miroslav Lajčák, and Ján Kubiš equally of Slovakia, Macedonia’s Srgjan Kerim, and the Montenegrin Igor Lukšić.

      U.N. Development Programme Administrator Helen Clark, a former prime minister of New Zealand, is another potential candidate. Clark has a good chance this cycle because the number of potential Eastern European candidates that will be acceptable to Russia are extremely small. Original front runner Bokova is likely to be acceptable to Russia, but if she faces a veto from any of the other security council members, then it is possible Russia would prefer a “Western” candidate to an Eastern European.
      The new secretary general will take over the role in Jan 2017 and will serve a five year term, which has additional five year right of renewal if member states agree.

      • TorchbearerforJesus

        I could be wrong, Kiwiwatcher; it’s happened before, but I don’t believe that the Planetary Government which is above the UN will kowtow to the feminists. The satanic PG doesn’t have to answer to anybody, and I think they’ll prove it in the filling of this position next year with Ovomit. Also, many of these member countries are Muslim, and they will NOT tolerate a woman to “usurp her authority” over them!

        Either way, I don’t really care; we don’t have any say in the matter, and we’ll probably not be here to witness the outcome. Great fodder for conversation though! Have a blessed day! 🙂

        • Kiwiwatcher

          From the footstool TorchbearerforJesus, it is apparent that all God given institutions are to be dismantled. Nationhood, family structure/marriage, our worship….everything. The satanic plan to install woman as leaders will continue as part of the erosive concept, more so if they are lesbians. The UN traditionally elects ‘unknowns’ and I would not expect that to change. Obama has far too much baggage world wide (remember the German UN head. Weildheim from memory – too much past came with him) i would expect afemale head of the UN and a female president of the US, to break down the few remaining outposts of the old traditional order. Clinton has huge funds, so watch as some very strange things happen from now and unto the election

          • Kiwiwatcher

            Totally agree TorchbearerforJesus….as it matters little either way. Definitely will not be here when it hits the fan, but do enjoy reading the Scriptures then looking over the fence to see the Titanic deck chairs being put into position.

            Not everyone sees it this way but Thessalonians is a major and personal plank for me. In 2 Thess 2:2, I believe the query from the young Church related to whether the tribulation (or day of the Lord as in my KJV 1967 edition) had begun. Some manuscripts say ‘day of Christ’ which I believe Paul is likely to be referring to the deceptive message from false teachers amongst the church, which in error, called the tribulation ‘the day of Christ.’ Most false teachers reveal themselves early on by confusing scriptural titles or references.
            All the verses thereafter (v4-12) in the chapter describe the day of the Lord, so in context I am most comfortable.
            Therefore, 2 Thess 2: says to me that the Rapture will occur, then THE falling away, the man of sin revealed, then seven years of that day…..the day of the Lord.
            3.5 years of man of sin smooching up to Israel, then 3.5 years of man of sin turning against Israel.
            I love the terms used in 2 Thess Chapter two – “You” “ye” “they” “them” “we” – makes very distinctive reading between the Believers and the ‘left behind.’

            All the very best, and yes, I am aware that other interpretations abound.

          • Heather

            Kiwiwatcher, l believe your correct in that he has too much baggage. What are your thoughts on the possibility that Obama will be rewarded with kingship of the NAU? In other words, he may be one of the future 10 kings.

          • Kiwiwatcher

            A good possibility sister Heather. Like former heads of state like Tony Blair etc, he will be put our to pasture, or pensioned off, in a world role to continue the program.

            I suspect we will soon enter an era of rock-star-celebrity like politicians. Younger, more dynamic, shallow, and very little in the way of apparent baggage. Justin Trudeau (43) of Canada, David Cameron took office in Britain aged 43, Obama became president aged 47. Italy’s Matteo Renzi was elected aged 43, Malta’s PM has turned 42, Luxemburg’s PM Xavier Bettel 42, Romanian leader Victor Ponta 42.

            It’s just a feeling I have in my water – but as the age of world leaders is trending downwards – I expect the momentum to continue and the ‘ac and co’ will be of a similar age. Sorry pope Francis.

  • rex

    It is not possible. According to the UN charter no permanent member of the security council can occupy the position of the UN Secretary General because it would give too much power to that office. If Hillary gets charged there is an article out on Yahoo news that I tweeted about Michelle Obama taking up the effort in her place maybe with Biden.

    • carson

      permanent member of security council=the USA..obama for now the prez, but after 2016 he’s not the prez..couldn’t he then head the UN since he’s not representing/heading the USA anymore?

      • Rex

        The fact is that historically the permanent security council member countries do not nominate a representative from their own country. However, I did more research and as it turns out there is no law or rule that says a permanent member of the security council cannot be the Secretary General. What is says is that traditionally because the Secretary General is nominated by the security council and ratified by the general assembly the security council does not put forth one of their own members because they all understood that this would result in a concentration of power that would not be good for the balance of power and influence in the world. However, what we see happening right now is that the UN for this election cycle is changing its procedure to make it more transparent to the general assembly. What that means is that all candidates no matter what country is nominating them will be vetted and voted on by the general assembly instead of the permanent security council members. That really opens the door to anybody regardless if a country like Russia or China would most likely not support Obama. Since Obama is obviously seeking a nomination for himself I find some things rather interesting. First of all is the number of international agreements (political/economical/environmental) that he has signed the USA up for without congressional approval. Second is his obvious desire to submit the USA to the will of world government. Third is the international magical mystery tour he is launching out on in 2016. It is like he has had this in mind for a very long time. It will be interesting to see if this actually has legs. If it does I think Revelation 13 is definitely in play.

        • MRH

          “First of all is the number of international agreements (political/economical/environmental) that he has signed the USA up for without congressional approval. Second is his obvious desire to submit the USA to the will of world government. Third is the international magical mystery tour he is launching out on in 2016. It is like he has had this in mind for a very long time. It will be interesting to see if this actually has legs. If it does I think Revelation 13 is definitely in play.”

          @ Rex: BHO has installed over 140 Executive orders since his reign began. And he has publicly stated his dictatorship desires. So yes I believe that Rev 13 may soon be unfolding. Also the UN has installed all 10 global regions except for the NAU.. which comes last. Things are going to get interesting in the times ahead I fear. But those whom have Christ within need not fear, as they are sealed unto redemption 😀

        • carson

          ..he shall think to change times and laws..comes to mind.
          Still I don’t say he’s it but do watch many things, time will tell

          • MRH

            @ carson: Of recent note is his changing of; marriage law 😉

            P.S. The Lord warned me that BHO is the AC back in 2008 🙂

            If still not convinced, watch below short video 💡


      • Rex

        another thought is that since Israel is so against Obama this actually works in Obama’s favor regarding the number of countries that would support a candidate that is perceived to by anti-Israel. In fact since the UN has always been considered to be an impotent organization with Obama in the seat it would suddenly have an order of magnitude more power and influence over the disposition of Jerusalem and the unfulfilled role of the UN regarding the administrative rule over that city.

  • Jeryl

    You do know that Obama is 1/4th Jewish? I still don’t believe he is the AC, but I’m closer to accepting that he could be!

  • Michael

    I learned that the two beasts in Revelation Chapter 13 represent empires, not individuals. You can read Daniel Chapter 7 for references. Therefore, there is no mention of the antichrist in Revelation.

    We must have faith in God, not in American “Christian” morality, values, and/or political party ( John 14:6; John 18:36).

    • Skywatcher

      Amen, Michael! You said, “We must have faith in God, not in American “Christian” morality, values, and/or political party ( John 14:6; John 18:36).”

      We are not to be concerned who the AC may or may not be; we’re to be watching for Christ’s soon return! So many are like Peter…all was well while he kept his eyes on the Master, but when he took notice of the waves, he converted from Judaism to beccoming a Baptist! He went in for dunkin’! Full immersion! 🙂

      If we don’t get our eyes back upon Him, we can expect a good dupin’! We can all be distracted and fooled…we don’t want that!

    • MRH

      @ Michael: Yes, but do not empires have rulers? True, Revelation doesn’t mention Antichrist. But nor does Daniel. In fact the term simply means Christ denier, and of such are many. In fact all unbelievers are antichrists. As for the two kings (Daniel 11) and beasts (Revelation 13), consider that Revelation ties to Daniel and other prophets 😉

  • Help me understand how rapture could happened any time soon. Matthew 24 gives us a very clear chronological order to end time events. The abomination of desicration must happen. Since a Jewish temple doesn’t exist, that has to happen first. Read that chapter and either Jesus was wrong, or He comes for His church after the tribulation. Or I’m missing something.

    • Mark

      There is no rapture, read Ezekiel 13:18-23 God is totally against those who teach his children to fly away Jesus is coming here to earth at the 7th trump the antichrist comes at the 6th trump you are right about Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 all give you events in order 3 times for emphasise

      • MRH

        @ Mark: Oh, but the rapture is indeed true, just not as many teach 😉

    • MRH

      @ rick: The resurrection occurs mid tribulation, the rapture occurs post tribulation 😉

      The tribulation begins at abomination and ends at the glorious return event 😉

      Clues are in; Daniel 11, Matt 24, Luke 21, 1 Cor 15, and Rev 10-19 🙂

      • TorchbearerforJesus

        MRH, you never cease to amaze me! After being shown the STRONG evidences for a pretribulation rapture, time and time again, you still insist on giving innocent and curious folk your mess of slop! Why do you insist upon doing this to them?

        • MRH

          @ TorchbearerforJesus: I only offer what I believe (by study), no deception involved 🙂

          • Skywatcher

            MRH, this is Skywatcher here. I really don’t mean to slam you or to come across as unkind or unChristlike in my responses to you. That’s not what I’m about.

            You said, “I only offer what I believe (by study), no deception involved”

            I believe you, when you say “no deception involved”. However, the problem that I and several others are trying to point out to you, is that your “study” is going all over the place. You’re attending a cult that is a twin to Jehovah’s Witness cult, and you’re presenting their twisted version of end times events. Then, you go online and pick a bit here and a bit there, and attempt to piece it all together. That is NOT good solid Bible study, my brother.

            To be truthful, I do NOT enjoy speaking out against you at all! I get it back from others, who misinterpret what I’m trying to do FOR you. I really wish I didn’t have to, but the Holy Spirit compels me to do so, because you’re leading His dear children astray when it comes to the rapture and the layout of the end time events.

            PLEASE…(that’s boldened, underlined, and italicized), do yourself and many others a huge favor, and get a good NON-denominational conservative theology book that covers these topics in a systematic (organized) manner, find the topic of interest, and then follow it right through from beginning to the end of the Bible, using Scripture as your stepping stones to see you through to the end of your research. It’s a lot of fun and reaps huge rewards! One of the very best for this topic would be J. Dwight Pentecost’s, “Things To Come”. It doesn’t cost much, and it lays out all the arguments for and against the various theories that are out there. The reader decides which is the truth, but at least you get to see all the evidences and arguments. It’s actually a really “fun” book to have, because you can investigate to your little heart’s desire!

            If you would do that, then you can come back with some really GREAT and accurate input, that will NOT have so many people wasting their time trying to get you (and others) to see the light, so to speak. You’ll be glad you did!!! This book is VERY easy to read and to understand, and it doesn’t miss a trick! It is inexpensive on Ebay or Amazon. I cannot recommend it enough. If you cannot afford it, email me with your address and I’ll buy a copy for you, and have it sent to your address! Just let me know! I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU!

            God’s Word deserves the best handling possible, and we cannot do that without due diligence. It is the ultimate sword of the Spirit, and when we wield it the wrong way, it can cause some MIGHTY SERIOUS damage, and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to do that, or be responsible to God for having done so, or for beating up on your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, only to find out they were indeed correct. Worse yet, is our “debate” could turn off seekers and have them go to a Christless eternity. I don’t want that to happen! Just let me know if you’d like me to buy it for you or not.

          • Sal

            MRH. In other words Skywatcher is telling you. Do as I have done, do as I say, believe as I do, and there won’t be anymore problems! What pride and arrogance!! Stay your own course with God, seeking for his truth! Though I don’t go along with all your thoughts, I see no malaise in you, as with those who abuse you.

          • MRH

            @ Sal: Thanks for kind words 🙂 Actually the bible calls us to be witnesses, NOT crowd followers.. YES MEN 😉

      • Al

        God will remove his people,the rapture,right before he sends his wrath down to earth:the tribulation.the same power that rose up Jesus,the Holy Spirit,will rise up his people.first the dead in Christ,then the ones that are alive.this removal of God’s holy spirit from the earth will allow total Satanic take over of the people left behind.the anti-christ,the second figure of Satan’s unholy Trinity will rule.the Luke warm christians left behind will realize they missed the rapture and will die a martyr’s death rather then get the mark.right now the holy spirit has been quenched so much in this country that he’s withdrawing because the people have turned away from GOD’S holy ways and turned to unrighteousness.

        • MRH

          @ Al: The rapture doesn’t occur until Christ bodily returns. The resurrection and wrath precedes things 😉

        • Skywatcher

          Al, stick to your guns! You’re right on target! I see two things that are amiss, and if you don’t mind, I’d like to point it out to you.

          You said, “Luke warm christians left behind will realize they missed the rapture and will die a martyr’s death rather then get the mark.”

          There are no such thing as “lukewarm” Christians, or Christ would not vomit them out. These are people with one foot in the kingdom and the other in the world. Rom. 12: 1, 2 warns about this. We are either totally sanctified (set apart) unto Christ, or we’re not. There is no middle road.
          Those people who have heard the gospel prior to the rapture, do NOT have a second chance to make up their minds to follow Him: 2 Thess. 2: 11 says, “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe A LIE.” (Emphasis added)

          At that time, they will believe the lie, and not the truth of the gospel. They will absolutely HATE God and anything to do with Him! They will really be angry with themselves for NOT having lived for Him when they had the chance to do so. They will become His worst enemies, which they really were before the rapture; if one isn’t living for Him, then it stands to good reason, that they are against Him. “One cannot serve two masters”, so our Master has said. They will love one and not the other; each master wants total allegiance and loyalty. That’s why it is ever so important that we reach our family and friends with the gospel now.

          I hope this helps you a little bit, my brother! Again, stick to that which you are sure of! The other points you made are right as rain!

          I followed up on MRH’s link, and it strongly appears that he’s working with a “patchwork” theology; a bit from here, and a bit from there, most of it SDA, and he’s put the pieces in the wrong places. I don’t say that to be mean or unkind, but that’s just how it is. His heart is in the right place, I think.

    • Skywatcher

      Yes, Rick, you are missing something. Mt. 24 is dealing with the nation of Israel, and is NOT for the Church. The Church is gone during this period. Many get confused about this, and I’ve dealt with it many times on other posts, yet the mid-tribbers and post-tribbers continue to ignore the vast amount of evidence favoring a Pre-trib. rapture. Christ started the whole notion in John 14: 3, when He promised to take us to where He is! It’s not a new 1800’s ideology, as some foolishly state! That’s Seventh Day Adventism cultic theology; it’s not biblical or supported in any way by Scripture. The Rapture is the first half of the Second Coming.

      If you’re really interested and want to know more, please email me at and I’ll send you evidence showing the differences! It’s free, because I believe God’s Word when Christ said, “Freely, freely, you have received, freely give.”

      • A. How do you know that Matthew 24 is for the Jews only?
        B. From a pragmatic point, I’d prefer to be post trip, and be wrong than to be pre-trib and be wrong. I’d hate to be a staunch pre-trig rapture person and see us in the tribulation.
        C. From what I’ve seen, Matthew 24 lays out a pretty clear timeline. No symbols: bowls, horses, trumpets, lamp stands, etc. I see nothing in the text that leads me to believe it is for Israel only.
        D. I don’t like to see “teachings” about end times, that lead you through all sorts of discussions, and theories. I want to know the Biblical texts, and I’ll just let the Holy Spirit lead me. “Teachings” is how people get into cults. You wouldn’t get into a cult with just Biblical texts to work with. You have to swallow the teachings of men.
        E. I don’t think my understand of end times will determine my salvation. Therefore, I want to learn these things, BUT, making disciples is my main goal, not making people believe how I do about end time chronology.

        At least, that’s how I see it.

        • Skywatcher

          Hi there, Bro. Rick!

          I agree with you in part; it is better to focus on winning souls for Jesus than to sit around debating this or that which we won’t even be here to confirm one way or the other. However, we have been commanded, not suggested, but COMMANDED to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Tim. 2: 15.

          Interesting to note the verse right before it: “Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.”

          A lot of that going on here and elsewhere. It’s the nature of the beast because Satan has to get his snotty nose into the arena.

          Re: your idea about teachers, please allow me to say this,

          Strong, solid Bible teachers/scholars are what we are commanded to be. Apostle Paul tells us in I Cor. 12: 28, 29, etc. that God has called people to be apostles, prophets, teachers, etc. Of course, we know the office of apostle is no longer possible to be filled because an apostle was one who literally saw and fellowshipped with Christ while He was on earth.

          There are many very good Bible teachers out there, providing they are using the right text book, KJV. Unfortunately today, we have many half-baked teachers, preachers, and pastors out there, who have NOT gone to a strong Bible-based, Conservative Bible college or seminary, where they are made to study Church History, Doctrine, Eschatology, Christology, etc. Therefore, they are not totally equipped for ministry in those areas, and should leave those areas alone or better yet…get out of the ministry, go to school and get some GOOD SOLID book learnin’ as the solid preachers did so long ago!

          Without this, they are tools of the NWO! Because they do NOT know Church History, they are quick to mix in with every denomination, sect, and cult that’s out there! They’re sliding over to the dark side, and pledging their allegiance to the pope; ecumenism is NOT of God. It never has been, and it never will be.

          As for your other points, please email me at:, and I’ll gladly send you a paper that answers ALL your aforementioned questions with MANY Scriptures to support the info! It took me over 8 hours to type up, mostly because of the copious amounts of Scriptures!!! It’s free for the asking! Others may do so too.

          It’s very important that we know why we believe as we do, and to be able to back it up with Scriptures in the RIGHT context!

          Blessings, my brother!

        • Edwitness

          I know,
          I think the main reason we can believe that Mt.24 is to Israel is, that is who Jesus was talking to.

          • Okay. So Europeans and Americans can forget anything in scripture, as Jesus never spoke to us? And the epistles were only meant for those to whom they were written? And Revelation was only meant for the 7 churches? First and 2nd Corinthians are for them only? Paul’s letters to Timothy? Titus?

            The Gospels are only for those were there?

        • Edwitness

          I can see how you got that idea from the reply I sent you. But that is not what I meant.
          As Geoffrey has said many times: all scripture is written FOR us, but all scripture is not written TO us.
          The scripture tells us that Jesus came for the Jews. In fact, all of His ministry during His incarnation was done under the Old Covenant. Therefore that teaching has direct application for Israel who lived under the law. Gentiles have no such experience.
          The New Covenant didn’t begin until after His resurrection.
          Jesus taught Paul through direct revelation exactly what to teach the Gentiles. Gal.1:12. The rest of the apostles wrote and ministered to the Jews. Gal.2:8,9
          I am not saying there is no application we can glean from what they taught. But the teaching (doctrine) that is specifically written for the Gentiles comes through Paul.
          What is related through Mt.24 is to the Jews, not the Gentiles.


  • … desolation. ..

  • Everything in Revelation and throughout the Bible has pointed us to these days, these days cannot be stopped or slowed down , only God knows the day and the hour these things prophesied will come to pass, but with each breath we take we are closer to seeing our Savior face to face. Are u ready? I personally cannot wait, I am a filthy sinner, but a redeemed and forgiven one. I am his child, and he has a place prepared for me, I hope and pray he uses me like a glove until he takes me home. If I can say or do anything to bring one person closer the God I serve that wipes my tears daily, gives me strength to carry
    on, gives me hope, and forgives me for failing him so, I will do it no matter what it takes.

    • Char

      Amen, Charity! My exact thoughts! If we could just get the post-tribbers and mid-tribbers to understand that God is warning us right now to get ready, just like he warned them in Sodom & Gomorrah to get ready for His judgment and how God warned them before the flood. He warns us BEFORE He send’s His judgment, but they just can’t get it….I feel sad for them! Instead of trying to see it, they argue about it.

      • Skywatcher

        Char, you are so right! Very sad to see the unlearned go on this way, isn’t it. My big question is, What makes them so sure they will live long enough in the G.T. to get to see the rapture?! 1/3 of the world’s population is killed off by a plague; 100 lb. hailstones should surely have some effect on their heads…:)

    • Skywatcher

      Amen, Michael! You said, “We must have faith in God, not in American “Christian” morality, values, and/or political party ( John 14:6; John 18:36).”

      We are not to be concerned who the AC may or may not be; we’re to be watching for Christ’s soon return! So many are like Peter…all was well while he kept his eyes on the Master, but when he took notice of the waves, he converted from Judaism to beccoming a Baptist! He went in for dunkin’! Full immersion! 🙂

      If we don’t get our eyes back upon Him, we can expect a good dupin’! We can all be distracted and fooled…we don’t want that!

  • Steven Britt

    I believe Mr Obama is paving the way for Mr Erdogan who is a more likely candidate. The pretrib myth which began in the early 1800s is a lie of the devil to deceive the very elect. Please study the post trib pre wrath rapture.

    • MRH

      @ Steven Britt: Post-trib is wrong also, in the way it’s taught. Mid-trib would be the most accurate version 😉

    • Skywatcher

      Steven Britt, I’ve studied the post trib rapture, and it only has two very weak arguments for it, and the supporting verses WERE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT! On the other hand, I have 38 arguments, based upon the accurate dividing of the Word of Truth, which shoot the other two rapture theories right through the heart! You can have these arguments to look at and to hold till death do you part, by emailing me at
      If you want to believe that Christ is a wife-beater, then stick with your post-trib. position; that’s not the loving Christ of the Holy Bible. To bring His Bride through something so evil and horrible as the Great Tribulation is an act of hatred, not of love. Furthermore, He is coming for a Bride “without spot or wrinkle”. How can she present herself in that manner after coming through that?! Impossible! She would be so badly battered, bruised, and bleeding, that she wouldn’t be at all attractive. What purpose would it serve to bring her through that? You now are in danger of saying salvation is by works and not through faith in Christ…

      • bebe

        Well as long as YOU studied it, we all can rest easy. Because you certainty know it all!

        • Skywatcher

          Hey, bebe! Thank you, for that vote of confidence! I couldn’t go on without words of encouragement like yours! If you do as much study as I have in the past and am still doing, you CAN “know it all” too! I even took a trip back into Church History and saw what the early church fathers believed. Have you done that? The Holy Bible is your oyster! Go get it! Rest easy, in the everlasting arms of the Lord Jesus! I am. 🙂

  • Tex

    You really think that Russia would allow Mr Erdogan or Obama to fill this position? Unless they change all the rules to make it a popular vote whoever the UN Secretary will be must be unanimous by the 5 permanent members and China/Russia will not go along with anything that would give the West (USA/Turkey) more power. What about Pope Francis?

  • Martus

    Daniel tells us that after the eagle wings are ripped off the Lion it stands up like a man and a mind of a man is given to it, this Lion Beast Man. The U.S.(eagle) ripped itself away from England (Lion) in 1776 so this Lion Beast man seems to come from England. Revelation tells us the number of the beast is the number of a man this Lion Beast Man, interesting also that the symbol of the standing Lion is found on the coat of arms of the royal family.

    Read a prophecy that Obama would move to a higher position and Hillary would become President so maybe the secretary general of the U.N., note their is no rule saying he can not be but generally the permanent member countries do not vote one of there own in and people are questioning where his true loyalties lies which may make him acceptable.

    Obama seems more like the John the Baptist type figure then the Antichrist and in Muslim prophecy, Mullah Majlisi wrote that, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (Mohammed’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that just prior to the return of the Twelfth Imam – the Mahdi(false Christ) – the Ultimate end times Savior of Islam – a “tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.” Leading “the strongest army on earth,” the new western ruler in the West will carry “a clear sign” from the third imam, (whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali.) Obama’s middle name, Hussein, is believed to be that sign. The Hadith also says that “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.” The name Barack, in both Arabic and Farsi (Persian) means blessing; Barack Hussein means “the blessing of Hussein” in both languages. Even the surname Obama, written in the Persian alphabet as O-Ba-Ma, means “he is with us,” another key point of Majlisi’s tradition.

  • Skywatcher

    MRH, you said, “There is not going to be a rapture the Bible does not even mention it Ezekiel 13-18-23 God is totally against those who teach his children to fly away the very subject is at the top of the page KJV false prophets. Here is a link for those who believe in that false teaching”

    You contradict yourself! You postulate that there is a Mid-Trib. rapture, and now you say, “”There is not going to be a rapture”! What gives with you? Go back to knitting or picking your nose! Anything is better than the rot you spew out on here when it comes to the Rapture. You’re in the dark more than the black hole is!

    What does Ezek. 13-18-23 have to do with the Rapture of the Church? The Church didn’t even exist in Ezekiel’s time! I didn’t waste my time looking at your SDA pig swill! Man! You are on some terribly thin ice as far as God and His Word are concerned… You’re knowingly leading people astray!

    What’s in it for you, MRH? Satan have a padded cell for ya? Does he have an all-you-can-eat buffet of maggots waiting for you? After all, you go to the SDA cult house for a “feed”…

    • Drew

      Wow Sky, such love…No matter who meant it for. 🙁

    • Anon

      Skywatcher has a black heart.
      He is nothing like Christ.
      He pretends to be a Christian but is not.
      He wants to impress others and exalt himself with his forked tongue.
      He has an antichrist spirit.
      You will know them by their fruit.

      Christ spoke of his kind in Matthew.

      O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. – Matthew 12:34

      • Skywatcher

        Why Judge Jesus (Anon), I just want to thank you for those very kind and edifying words!

        You’re a COWARD because you hide behind “Anon”, and that doesn’t bother me in the least! I don’t expect to get a reply back from you soon, because you’re probably still running away from your computer. Fear is a horrible thing! You make a lot of statements but you don’t give any evidence to support such allegations you have levied against me. Way to go, King Kong!

        Such edification on your part has never before been seen in all of Judea!

        I’m good in HIS books, so I’ll not be bothered by the verbal diarrhea you’ve spewed here!

        How much do you charge by the hour for you psycho babble? Take it up with you master. Satan pays well, so I hear…Romans 6: 23. You also might want to replenish your quiver; I believe you’ve used up all your “fiery darts of the wicked” against me!

        God bless you, as you make a huge dent in the world’s corruption and evil today!
        Much love, in Christ Jesus of Nazareth!

        Your bosom buddy, and brother in Christ,

  • Skywatcher

    OOOPS! Sorry, MRH, my last comment was addressed to Mark, and my second paragraph in it doesn’t even apply! Sorry to all who read it!

    • MRH

      @ Skywatcher: I’m only MRH here 😉 Not sure why confusion?

      P.S. I’m ‘Mark’ by email only 😉

  • char

    Skywatcher, yes, it’s very frustrating that these people will NOT see that when Jesus was talking to His disciples about the end times they had no idea there would be a 2000 year gap in between and that the rapture will be BEFORE the tribulation. To these died in the wool post-tribbers, don’t you just wanna open up their heads and pour the truth into them? Oh well, they will find out soon who is right. The pastor at the lukewarm church I used to attend has preached on post-tribulation because he says “I can find no proof of the rapture being before the tribulation”. Seems like a pastor of all people would study his bible a little better to see the truth and then teach it correctly, so consequently, the 5,000 member church gets no teaching on the pre-tribulation rapture (or any end times prophecy). Needless to say, I’m outta there!

    • Skywatcher

      Char, you said, “To these died in the wool post-tribbers, don’t you just wanna open up their heads and pour the truth into them?” Thank you, for my first laugh of the day! Last evening, the Holy Spirit brought something to my mind…”How many times in the book of Revelation does He say, “Let him that hath ears to hear, hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.”? We’re doing our best to get the truth out there, but so many just don’t want to hear it. It will be up to them what they want to do with it, and as to how God will judge them.

      Somewhere along the way, numerous crops of poorly taught clerics have been loosed among the masses, and we’re paying for it now. Then again, we have clowns from the “Word of Faith” movement and other uneducated flunkies out there teaching and preaching, who have never studied Church History, Eschatology, Christology, etc., and therefore, they daily pass their ignorance along to their poor unsuspecting congregations. Most of the congregants do not have a real Bible to begin with, and then most of them still can’t be bothered to carry it to church, much less read it at home. Therefore, when the toxic messages come their way, they have no spiritual insight to gauge it by. They do NOT have the Holy Spirit reminding them of what they read in their Bible that refutes what they’re being taught in church. He cannot remind them with His Word either if they never read it!

      When it comes to Eschatology (the study of end times events/prophecy), they don’t know diapers from towels! Clean or dirty! I believe most of them were never taught in their churches or theological institutions. Therefore, they are easily discouraged as they try to step out to connect the dots on their own. OR…they’re too lazy to get good theological books that deal with all these topics and much more. There’s plenty of them out there. One of the best ones that EVERY Christian should have, to keep with their Holy Bible, is J. Dwight Pentecost’s “Things To Come”, and another is Henry Thiessen’s “Lectures on Systematic Theology”!!! These are fantastic, inexpensive on Ebay or Amazon, and they answer all one’s questions on doctrines, etc. Either way, the clergy and their flocks WILL be accountable to God for this and I wouldn’t want to be one of them.

      They attempt to argue us into the ground and yet, they can give no scriptural references to what they’re saying, in many cases. And, when they do, they’re most generally taken out of context or they do not know whom the particular passage is addressing…the nation of Israel or the Church.

      Hang in there, my dear sister! This is a sharp indicator that we are truly in the last days. We only have a few more months left. We need to focus on getting our loved ones into the Kingdom while we still can. Sites like this are good informers and they definitely show the spiritual “temperature” that’s out there. However, one can lose much of their day “going around that mountain” one more time with the next one who knows it all and doesn’t want to hear the truth.

      God will never leave His people without a shepherd, even if it means having the Good Shepherd come back to deliver His sheep from the wolves! In the meantime, we just have to be wise about the battles we choose to fight!

      Don’t let the leaches rob you of your peace and joy! Don’t allow the lampreys to suck out all your spiritual energy; stay busy in the service of the Lord! Ask Him to show you a soul in your area that you can minister to in some way, thereby using your time wisely for Him. There are needy people all around us! Avenues of ministry, but be sure you’re prayed up before you make any effort to do so. Too easy to be sucked in or to be seriously hurt these days. It’s not like it used to be thirty years ago, when all we had to worry about around here was somebody stealing your gasoline!

      May God bless you today, with one of the best days you’ve EVER had, as you walk alongside Him! Continue to hold the torch up high for all to see, and in due time, He will openly reward you!

      • Char

        Skywatcher, thank you for your reply. As for LOOKING for unbelievers in my area. My son and his family and I purchased a house together 10 years ago and they and my grandsons are unbelievers. I have plenty to pray about and speak to in my own house about coming to the Lord. My grandsons smoke pot with their friends right in our garage and my son and daughter in law drink heavily every night, so I have this burden on my heart that my children need the Lord before it’s too late for them. Didn’t mean to get personal, but so many things go on right in my own home that I am praying without ceasing just for this household and also for others that will be left behind if they don’t wake up! Please pray a quick prayer for my family when you have a chance. They certainly could use it…..thank you.

        • Skywatcher

          Char, I’ve taken your family to the throne room of God Almighty, just so you know! It wasn’t a “rocket” prayer either…one said in haste “to make sure the bases are covered”. I prayed specifically, that God would touch the ringleader in the home, and he in turn will help you to bring the rest into the fold! Let’s agree on that, shall we?

          God bless, you, Dear! I know it’s definitely NOT easy for you! God has you covered, and He hears and answers every prayer…sometimes just not fast enough for our liking!

          As for a church to worship in, it sounds to me like you’re in need of a handful of good solid Christians to fellowship with. I’ll join you and Suez in prayer on that one also! For the rest of you folk reading this post, PLEASE pray for Char and others with this very real need.

          I was there until fairly recently. I found a good strong solid KJV Bible-believing church a mile up the road from me, but Satan is in the midst there too. There are one or two self-righteous sheep there who tend to look down their nose at me.

          When I took the matter to my Lord the other day, He quickly and calmly said, “Love them out of it”. Meaning, I’m to love that self-righteous attitude right out of them, and to pour God’s love into them each and every opportunity He gives me! Challenges…I love them!

  • Greg D

    “Take out the Church”. Jesus said “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.” Matthew 24:9
    He then goes on the describe the antichrist, then he says “AFTER THE TRIBULATION”…and describes the rapture. The church is in so much denial, they say “that is the second coming.” Ok so there will be 2 raptures? Nowhere in the bible does it say the rapture is pre trib or post trib…EXCEPT in Matthew 24 where Jesus himself says POST. Prepare yourselves.

    • Skywatcher

      Greg D, the Church wasn’t even in existence when Christ spoke those words! He was speaking to the Nation of Israel. Perhaps you don’t realize that the Second Coming has two parts?
      1. The Rapture: Christ TAKES His saints home WITH Him: Jn. 14: 3 “…and I will RECEIVE you unto myself…”
      2. The Second Coming: Christ, BRINGS all His saints (us) and His heavenly hosts to earth WITH Him.

      No, there are NOT two raptures; there are two very distinct events that people get confused about. If you would like a clear description of the two events, just email me,( and I’ll quickly send you the info for free, and then you will see there is a HUGE difference between the two! Just as there is a world of difference between tribulations (day to day challenges and trials) and the Great Tribulation! They are worlds apart!

      What we see happening right now, as far as Israel is concerned and the world as a whole, is a sign to the Church that the rapture is imminent. I hope this helps you a little. The info is yours for free, and you’ll be glad you asked for it. Many are!

    • MRH

      @ Greg D: The tribulation doesn’t end with Matt 24:30, it only gets worse afterward during the end of the world 😉

      Mat 24:29 KJV – Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

      Mar 13:24-25 KJV – But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

      Luk 21:25-26 KJV – And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

      Note: The 3 Gospel excerpts above regard the same thing but with slightly different information. But if one compares notes, it should be obvious that even greater troubles lie ahead after the first part of the tribulation. Then if one adds in Matt 24:27-28, it appears to reference the holy return and resulting resurrection of saints.

      Mat 24:27-28 KJV – For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

      Luk 17:24, 37 KJV – For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. … And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

      Note: So considering the timeline factor, the above regards the first part of the holy return with resurrection of saints. The second part of the return doesn’t occur until…

      Mat 24:30-31 KJV – And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

      P.S. The only way to make logical sense out of the 4 Gospels is to compare things. Likewise with the prophets and apostle accounts, as they intertwine in many ways 😉

  • Claire Richards

    I heard he is the first USA president to preside over a U.N meeting. Something to consider When speaking to pergamous TURKEY it reads I know where satan’s seat is.When reading the verse son of perdition revealed with strongs concordance this seems to be an inward knowledge or spiritual knowledge. Not exactly seeing him take his place.I find it interesting and somewhat hopeful babylon under nebachednezer or however you spell that………was given a beast heart and was made to eat 7 years I believe as a cow would… The thing that I can overlook is the given a heart to stand as a man….seems to line up with neb…in reverse and would fit uncle sam. The hope I see is in the story…..Neb became prideful as America has become prideful….Saying look at this kingdom I have made LEAVING God out without giving him his glory. But with Neb he was given his time to repent and he did ….so I guess thats the hope I see. So to me that would mean 7 years of famine for america or barely eating as a cow grazes all day. If she repents in that 7 years.But If I remember correctly the kingdom was taken for that time. ……… I also found it interesting ..when looking at it with strongs … the verse diverse from his fathers can be understood FOREFATHERS or founding fathers… he fits that for sure. We shall see how this plays out. Keep looking up your redemption is closer than when you first believe. P.S one last thing I just thought of…. as per the rapture which is biblical for the one who said it wasn’t its Harpadzo a quick snatching out by force….the catching away. I will admit I go back and forth of when it will be …we can’t say we will face nothing when christians all over the world at the moment are dying for their faith. We are not appointed to wrath but is tribulation wrath ? So i’d say before the wrath of the lamb. In exodus I believe it is written when you call the assembly you blow the trumpet but not an alarm this to me is a revelation of the rapture.When you go to war you blow the trumpet and an alarm.That would be the Lord’s return when all shall see him.We see this 7 trumpets and people relate that to the last trumpet but in the Jewish blowing of the trumpets if im remembering the numbers correctly they blow 100 trumpets..the 100th trumpet is called the last trump.

  • Les Zimmer

    Please stop using the term rapture when referencing the Bible…..there is no such thing located anywhere in scripture.What it does is loses any credibility to your report

    • TorchbearerforJesus

      Les Zimmer, it’s very sad to see you display your lack of Biblical knowledge with such superiority and demand. Why don’t you take a moment and look up the word, “rapture” in the dictionary. Then, come back to I Thess. 4: 17 and see what you discover!

      Then, if you’re not too ashamed, come back and let us know what you’ve discovered, with perhaps, an apology. It’s all through the Holy Bible, starting with Jn. 14: 3 which states, “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and RECEIVE you unto myself…”

      The word, “receive” is a word that denotes royalty. When one seeks an audience with the king or some other potentate, they can only see him/her if he “receives” them. That means he has given his permission for them to GO TO him or to approach him. The same situation applies in this verse, as the saints are “caught up” in the air…to GO TO Him. They have met His qualifications and He is prepared to receive them.

      In the Second Coming, the saints come BACK WITH Him. They had to have gone somewhere to be with Him before they could come BACK WITH Him…

      As you will discover, the word “rapture” in no way takes away the credibility of this report, as you’ve stated. We’ll be standing by, waiting to hear of your important discovery!

      • Les Zimmer

        I will never be ashamed of stating the truth….The word rapture is nowhere in the Bible. My original statement was pointed at the fact that with so many nonbelievers picking the Bible apart that would be a good thing to stay accurate.You may quote as much as you want from King James or the original scriptures and my statement will still stand. In the dictionary it reads
        NORTH AMERICAN term
        (the Rapture)
        (according to some millenarian teaching) the transporting of believers to heaven at the Second Coming of Christ).So now with all YOUR Biblical knowledge you will notice that the dictionary is far from the Bible…your apology is not necessary Take care God Bless

        • TorchbearerforJesus

          Les Zimmer, you must be deceived! There was never an apology coming your way from me! You’re correct, in that the word “rapture” isn’t in the Bible. The word, “treason” isn’t either, but we see many examples of it in the O.T. Here’s the definition of “Rapture” that I have from my faithful Webster’s Dictionary:

          Rapture: “An emotional state in which intense joy, love, etc. possesses the mind to the exclusion of every other emotion or consideration, to be caught up in the moment; to carry away.”

          Now, I humbly ask you, is that not what is being spoken of in I Thess. 4: 17? To be “caught up” or carried away in the clouds. Edwitness and others have given you the Greek term for it, harpadzo; I don’t speak Greek, so I use the English derivative, “rapture”.

          The Early Church Fathers believed and taught the Rapture, long before John Darby was ever thought of! It is not a new doctrine, and it shouldn’t be shunned by born again children of God. You see, this is where the study of Church History and Church Doctrines is extremely vital; most preachers these days have NO idea of such, and cleverly and smoothly attempt to speak as experts on the topic. They’re like fishermen going fishing with a pole that has no hook on the end of their line! They aren’t rightfully or fully equipped for the task.

          Apostle Paul went to great lengths to convey to us in that chapter all it entails, so it must be a real future event or the Holy Spirit would not have wasted his time to write it, especially if it was a lie.

          I don’t know what dictionary you used, but it is NOT a “NORTH AMERICAN term”, and…it is NOT the Second Coming! They are two very distinct events, as I’ve already explained in part, in this forum! “Rapture” is a universal word, known by Christians everywhere, past and present, who were/are anxiously awaiting the glorious event. This was evidenced throughout the N.T. and in the OLD hymn books of yesteryear, written by authors from all around the world! Poets from yesteryear have also written about that spectacular event…

          The hymn, “Blessed Assurance”, Fanny Crosby, v. 2: “Perfect submission, perfect delight, visions of rapture now burst on my sight…”

          The hymn, “When the Roll is Called Up Yonder”, James M. Black:

          When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound,
          And time shall be no more,
          And the morning breaks, eternal, bright and fair,
          When the saved of earth shall gather over on the other shore,
          And the roll is called up yonder, I’ll be there.

          On that bright and cloudless morning
          When the dead in Christ shall rise,
          And the glory of His resurrection share;
          When His chosen ones shall gather to their home beyond the skies,
          And the roll is called up yonder, I’ll be there.

          It’s so sad that the SDA’s smooth homiletic skills and manipulation of the the Scriptures has tickled the ears of so many unsuspecting hearers. This is something they share with the Watch Tower Society of the J.W.’s.

          The Rapture is the “blessed hope” of the true Church of Jesus Christ. Christ Himself, FIRST gave us this hope to help to sustain us through very trying and difficult times, Jn. 14: 3. He knew what was coming, and what it would take to help see us through.

          Like you, I will never be ashamed of stating the truth, but I think I’ll stick with the truth of the Holy Bible, if you don’t mind. I don’t know why this is really such a bone of contention anyway. God spoke the worlds into place; is it anymore difficult for him to temporarily suspend the laws of gravity to pull this event off? Which takes more faith to believe? Seeing that He was capable of creating the world out of nothing or that He can rapture His saints away from His judgment? I have every confidence that He is capable of fulfilling this glorious promise. Time will tell.

          • Les Zimmer

            TBFJ, No deception, it is considered sarcasm. I have no doubt that in end times God will have some unbelievable miracles. Having said that.
            2 Peter 2:1-3
            But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
            Romans 16:17
            I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
            1 John 4:1
            Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

            I could keep going but im sure you get the picture…that this is not my bone of contention so much as it is Gods

          • Edwitness

            Well said TorchbearerforJesus,
            And a hearty amen brother.

    • Edwitness

      Les Zimmer,
      I think rapture is the Latin for harpadzo. Which is the Greek word for “caught up” in Thessalonians.

      • deborah

        I agree totally. When the anti-rapture folks use the argument ‘The word rapture isn’t even in the Bible’, I tell them of course it isn’t in the Bible. The New Testament was written in GREEK, not Latin. Sometimes this is enough to get them to pause from their argument and listen to reason.

  • There is so-o-o-o much happening today! This year of 2016 looks like a pretty stormy year to me. My Bible says that we are not to get caught up in the things of this world but it is difficult to ignore them when they are hitting all around us. Jesus said when these things begin to happen we are to look up for our redemption draws nigh. Even so, come Lord Jesus! Amen and Amen!!

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  • RAPTURE-RAPTURE-RAPTURE-RAPTURE-RAPTURE! The word “IDIOT” isn’t in the Bible either but there are a lot of them in there!

    • James Staten

      I am just wondering what you call one of the mysteries the (Catching Away of the Body of Christ) which the Risen Savior revealed from glory to the Apostle Paul? Without going back and looking at the time frame I believe it was about fifteen years after the Lord ascended to the Right Hand of the Father. What about the word Harpazo? Even the word Natzal? I believe they were first called horseless carriages, but today we call them cars or automobiles. The concept is the same. There is an event coming, now you can believe what you want, but the Risen Savior revealed a secret to the Apostle Paul never revealed before to any man for the Body of Christ. We will meet Him in the Air. One could call it the Lord’s anti-gravity principle!!!! One could tell you to go look in the Latin Vulgate.

      • Screaming Eagle

        Amen! James Staten, I agree wholeheartedly on both of your comments! It’s not important that you have my vote, but I just wanted to let you know, that your comments are like a breath of badly needed fresh air!

        Continue to keep your eyes on the Prize!

    • James Staten

      Dennis1..maybe I replied to your comments to soon? Sometimes my blood pressure rises when I keep reading all the comments. If my comments aren’t for you, then perhaps someone else can read them!!!

    • deborah

      The GREEK word transliterated ‘idiotes’ is in the Bible where it is usually translated into English as ‘ignorant’ or ‘unlearned'(Acts and I and II Corinthians). You can probably guess which modern English word we also get from the original root word.

  • ConspiracyExaminer

    Considering this is not the true Israel, the one that the Torah states the true Messiah will appoint upon arrival, I’m not so sure those of you claiming to be Christian or Jewish are walking down the correct path here…

  • Char

    Skywatcher, thank you so much for your much needed prayers. As I read your comment, it brought tears to my eyes to know that there are loving, caring Christ followers out there (and not just in it to get a pat on the back). I will also pray for you and yours and am trusting in the Lord that my children will come to know him soon and I can bring them to my “new” found church that God is going to lead me to. Also that Suez may find a church that fulfills her(?) spiritual needs. Thank you for Spirit filled concern.

  • James Staten

    Screaming Eagle…Thank you for your reply. I do appreciate it. Sometimes it’s very frustrating reading the comments,and your Amen has made my day!!!! Keep Looking Up, James Staten

  • MRH

    @ Skywatcher: Nor do I hate you brother. After all, we’re both in the same holy camp 😀

    As for my studies, much is strictly the bible, not other theologies, including SDA doctrine. Concerning end time mysteries, it’s a challenge as scripture is not all clear on things. And I keep seeing hidden elements that others overlook. But one thing is certain, and that is that we all may die before the end begins. And if we do die prior, we still will be changed at Christs return. And that’s what matters most, not tribulation vs. rapture theories. Or whether or not Obama is the AC and Francis the FP. Or whether or not the CC is Babylon.

    None really know the end time score but God, and he doesn’t reveal all knowledge, just tidbits to chew on. And there have been many times that I’ve stared blankly at various prophecy elements totally clueless. And sometimes I seek out external sources, but they only offer their opinions. Then I think hard unto what the angels told Daniel and John, and I deeply wonder. Are the prophecies still sealed or not? After all, we are not at the end yet? But we are striving hard to understand the many mysteries?

    Dan 12:4, 8-9, 13 KJV – But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. … And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. … But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

    Rev 22:8-10, 18-20 KJV – And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. … For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    • Skywatcher

      MRH, why don’t you let me buy you the text book I suggested. It’s worth its weight in gold man! You’ve said, “Concerning end time mysteries, it’s a challenge as scripture is not all clear on things.”

      You’re partly right! However, theologians who have spent their whole lifetimes studying the book and connecting all the dots have done the hard and tedious part for us. All we have to do is to take a few minutes/hours and to look at it and see if it makes any sense or helps one to connect further “dots”.

      You said, “And I keep seeing hidden elements that others overlook.”

      You’re not seeing “hidden elements that others overlook”! You’re seeing the same things over and over and each time never connecting the same two dots together again! You’re taking verses out of context or you’re misappropriating them. You’ll always come up with something different that NOBODY else is going to see when you do that. Do you honestly believe that you have an umbilical cord attached to God, whereby He reveals things to you and not to anybody else? That’s arrogance and evidence of being deceived. Some of the things He apparently “shows” to you, are being taken out of context when compared to other Scriptures…That’s not God; He’s not the author of confusion!

      You said, “But one thing is certain, and that is that we all may die before the end begins.”

      What do you call the end? That’s a rhetorical question because I couldn’t care less. What I’m hearing in that statement is a poor man who has no hope, and is consigned to whatever will happen will happen! That’s sad, because Apostle Paul said Christ is our hope in numerous passages, which I will not quote here because you know them as well as I do.

      My favorite passage of hope is this, and I’m sure you’re quite familiar with it: “But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.” I Thess. 4: 13

      Believing in error, that the rapture doesn’t happen before your “end” is draining the spirit right out of you, man! I sense it in your words. Now is NOT the time to grow weak! Put on the whole armor of God and prepare to do battle, but you cannot wage a good battle when you’re wielding the sword in the wrong direction or beating the ground with it!

      You said, “And if we do die prior, we still will be changed at Christs return. And that’s what matters most, not tribulation vs. rapture theories.”

      You’re wrong! That’s NOT what matters most! What matters most is that we take as many to Heaven as we can! When you lead people astray with your “scholarly” discoveries, you also rob them of the blessed hope of Christ’s appearing and maybe even a home in Heaven!

      It is EXTREMELY important that we know what the Bible has to say about the three rapture theories that are out there. Why? I’m so glad you asked! 🙂 I Peter 3: 15 says, “But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear…”

      You bounce all over the place and end up in a hopeless mess.

      You said, “None really know the end time score but God, and he doesn’t reveal all knowledge, just tidbits to chew on.”

      WRONG! He has revealed EVERYTHING that we NEED to know to get us prepared to go home and to get us there! He has specifically called learned men and women of God to devote their entire lives to study theology (God). Why? Because He loves us enough to want to let us know about Him, His plan for us, His last days plans, what we can expect of and from Him, the time table, etc. He doesn’t leave us dangling on a string, not knowing which way to turn, or what to avoid or to partake in. That’s not the God of the Holy Bible!

      You said, “And there have been many times that I’ve stared blankly at various prophecy elements totally clueless. And sometimes I seek out external sources, but they only offer their opinions.”

      I really appreciate your honesty! However…isn’t that EXACTLY what YOU do?! You toss out your opinions and then criticize life-long scholars, whom you believe interject their opinions to justify their conclusions. That’s why you need to get the book! These people lay it all out so clearly, concisely, and ACCURATELY! They do NOT allow their opinions to influence the outcome of their findings! That is mighty honorable and scientific on some level, I would say! Does anybody really know who the AC is? NO! And if they do, they’re in a world of hurt, because the rest of us are celebrating around the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, and they’re left behind!

      I sent you the info re: the theories of the Rapture and you didn’t pay any mind to them, obviously. You’re either very stubborn or bound by a spirit that doesn’t want you to see those truths. You need to determine which it is and deal with it accordingly.

      You said, “Dan 12:4, 8-9, 13 KJV – But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”

      MRH, we are in “the end” TIMES! It is NOT the “END”, and that’s not what God meant when the H.S. gave that instruction to Daniel. What good would it be to reveal the secrets after almost 2/3 of mankind are killed off during the G. T.? The secrets are being revealed NOW, but very few are wanting to hear or to recognize them! In the last 125 years, knowledge has EXPONENTIALLY increased, compared to ALL the other preceding centuries. Wouldn’t you call that a major sign to consider watching? Wouldn’t you HAVE to say the seal has been broken and the secrets are being released? Wouldn’t you say that knowledge is increasing like never before? I could type you pages and pages of inventions and sciences that have been discovered in the last 100 hundred years. Why is it knowledge was never on this scale in the preceding centuries? They had horse and wagons for hundreds of years!

      You quoted, ” And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.”

      Those things in Revelation are wide open for all to see, and the time is very close at hand for their fulfillment! That’s why they’re revealed to us, so we can prepare ourselves to escape the horrors to come, and to be encouraged and excited about our heavenly home!

      Be very careful what you say on here, because I listen to everything to see if it aligns with God’s Word. Sometimes things get by me and other times, I let them slip by, to give others a chance to rightly divide the word of truth. I don’t need to be doing all the talking, but when I see a person like yourself, struggling and floundering, as you TRY to put the pieces all together and share those fragmented pieces with unsuspecting others, it breaks my heart. You’re not heeding wise counsel from others or myself. You’re being stubborn and misleading people, believing that you are doing God a service.

      Saul thought he was “doing God a service” by persecuting and killing off Christians. Was he correct in doing so? No! Again, I offer to buy you the book. It won’t break me, but I’ll be greatly rewarded and encouraged when I see your theological opinions come together and the blessed hope come back into your words and ministry!

      • Kiwiwatcher

        Amen Skywatcher

        1 Timothy 6:12 “Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.”

      • MRH

        @ Skywatcher: Thanks for book offer, but I don’t read books anymore.. too much wordage. In fact I can’t even handle lengthy web text or long documentary videos either. So if you bought me the book it would only gather dust 🙁

        Concerning the end times, I used to be pre-trib, but after deep study have since changed to mid-trib stance. Why? Because of the timeline in the Olivet prophecy. Matt 24:27-28 is NOT Matt 24:30-31! Also Paul notes things concerning the return (1 Cor 15:23), that the resurrection occurs before the end begins (1 Cor 15:24). But in the same passage it states that the kingdom is delivered up (rapture) after the end. So if taken at face value, the passage seems to contradict 1 Thes 4:15-17. Which seems to suggest no time lapse between things? But then remember that Jesus remained on earth for 40 days after his change? Also once we are changed we enter into the kingdom of God. as stated in 1 Cor 15:50-53. So then if we are then made immortal, what more need we fear? And do you not think that God doesn’t have plan for us glorified saints then? After all, does he not even now have plans for us, which is to be faithful holy witnesses? And the holy witness process continues up to the beginning of the end (Matt 24:14).

        Anyway, both trib camps fail to notice these hidden elements, which are critical to our understanding. As I see it, the pre-trib lot are like nervous rabbits (get us out of here now!), whereas the post-trib lot are like eager martyrs (we will endure unto the end!). But is there any logic in any such thinking brother? In fact I know Christians whom relish in being persecuted, which is plain dumb. Although we are indeed persecuted, nowhere does it say we should enjoy pain. Would you rejoice if ISIS broke into your home and committed horrors? So again there are the hardy post-tribs and the scared pre-tribs.. but where are the mid-trib hiding? Am I the only mid-trib soul here?

        P.S. One other thing is that both common trib camps are too focused on themselves which is not spiritually healthy 🙁

        1Jo 4:15-18 KJV – Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

        • Skywatcher

          MRH, you don’t need to read the whole book. The information I’m strongly recommending is part of one chapter. It’s also good to see what the early Church Fathers had to say about such topics.

          You said, “P.S. One other thing is that both common trib camps are too focused on themselves which is not spiritually healthy”

          I couldn’t disagree with you more! End of story. You’ve proved my point, “You’re either very stubborn and don’t want to know the truth, or you have a spirit that binds you, keeping you from it.


          • char

            Skywatcher, you have tried EVERY WAY possible to convince MRH that he is wrong in his beliefs, but it’s just not working. I think he enjoys the banter, but not the actual knowledge you are trying so hard to give him. You are a kind, sweet, caring Christ follower, but there comes a time when we should realize we are trying to cast pearls before swine. I know that God is blessing you in your endeavor to get MRH to see the right way, but like I said, pearls…….I think you’re going to have to call it a day and just pray for the poor, unenlightened person. All of us who are reading your comments with MRH that know you are correct are feeling for you, but it seems to not be working. You’ve done ALL you can do for this stiff necked unbeliever. God Bless you!

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  • DANIEL 9:27

    Obama can never be the anti-Christ because (1.) he is not from the tribe of Dan (Genesis 49:16).(2.) he is not from the royal families of Europe (Daniel 9:26). (3.) he is not a man of peace but of division (Daniel 8:25). (4.) his predecessor is not one of the seven kings of Revelation 17:10, making him the eight beast going into perdition (Revelation 17:11). And (5.) his name isn’t mentioned in Bible Code under and around the anti-Christ passage of Daniel 9:27.

    • Edwitness

      #1.It has actually been found that Obama has Jewish heritage through his mother that goes to the tribe of, you guessed it, DAN.
      #2.And a prestigious genealogical society also determined that Obama and Bush are cousins whose lineage goes back to the royal families of Europe.
      #3.He was awarded the Nobel peace prize.
      #5.His name is found in the Hebrew that Jesus likely spoke when He told the disciples He saw Satan fall as lightening from heaven. Lightening from heaven is Barack o Bama in Hebrew.
      I don’t have anything for your #4 except to say that the US has been the world power for a “short space”. Rev.17:10
      I’m not saying this means he is the AC. But he seems to fit the description you laid out.

  • Char

    Skywatcher, you have tried EVERY WAY possible to convince MRH that he is wrong in his beliefs, but it’s just not working. I think he enjoys the banter, but not the actual knowledge you are trying so hard to give him. You are a kind, sweet, caring Christ follower, but there comes a time when we should realize we are trying to cast pearls before swine. I know that God is blessing you in your endeavor to get MRH to see the right way, but like I said, pearls…….I think you’re going to have to call it a day and just pray for the poor, unenlightened person. All of us who are reading your comments with MRH that know you are correct are feeling for you, but it seems to not be working. You’ve done ALL you can do for this stiff necked unbeliever. God Bless you!

    • Skywatcher

      Char, I’m afraid you’re absolutely correct. As you can see, my last post to him was short. I hope I can control myself and not waste anymore time on him. I just feel so badly for the souls he is influencing away from Christ. Brainwashing is a mighty hard thing to undo…SDA… He denies their influence on him, but his statements say otherwise.

      Thank you, for your blessing!

      • char

        Well, next time you feel the urge to reply back to MRH, grab a crossword puzzle or another game on line. It will keep your mind engaged and off of MRH. I know you have a burden for souls, but we have to shake the dust off our feet sometimes and go on when the person is not responding. Blessings!

      • Kiwiwatcher

        Skywatcher – you are a life saver with preserver at the ready. For some unfortunately – it’s only a game.

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  • Revelation 13

    Edwitness, first, Obama is only 1/24th Jewish…Second, Obama was awarded the peace prize before he ever did anything. He has devoted seven years to setting the world on fire, people against people, nation against nation.. Third, Obama’s real name is Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. His real father is not Obama Sr.

  • Edwitness

    Revelation 13,
    I’m pretty sure his name is Barack Obama and his other name, Barry sotero is his adoptive name. Here is a report that has some of the info regarding Obama’s real name and why the change. But to be fair, the report does not seem to be conclusive on the matter either.
    The mystery surrounding this man is another thing that causes this kind of speculation:

    “Then there’s the issue of Obama’s name. Is his real name Barack Hussein Obama or his adopted name, Barry Soetoro? When Barack’s assumed mother, Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Lolo adopted Barack. His name given to him at the time was Soebarkah or Soe Bar Kah.

    Soe signifies the adoptive father as Lolo Soetoro. Bar is obvious, as in Barack, but also links to the Islamic Aramic in bar meaning SON. The Kah is interesting in Indonesian, KAH translates as WAS. In names, KAH is added as a suffix to form a question of “Who?”Soe Bar Kah means literally Who is this, but the son of Soetoro. Our president, while being raised in Indonesia was known simply as Barry Soetoro.

    The investigative journalist Wayne Madsen points out that Indonesian law explicitly states that dual citizenship is not permitted and, according to a 1958 Indonesian law, only Indonesian citizens could be enrolled in either of the two schools Barry attended in Jakarta, St. Fransiskus Assisi Catholic School and Menteng Elementary.

    Investigative reporter Aaron Klein, in World Net Daily, points out that a 2007 Associated Press photograph taken by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer, surfaced on the photographic website showing an image of Obama’s registration card at Indonesia’s Fransiskus Assisi school. In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His religion is listed as Muslim

    Madsen admits that Obama’s adoption was formal and carried out pursuant to Indonesian law. Soebarkah may be Obama’s given Indonesian name: a legal requirement in his formal adoption process to become an Indonesian citizen.

    President Barack Obama, while growing up in Indonesia was an Indonesian Muslim known as Barry Soetoro. When did he change his name, renounce Islam and regain U.S. citizenship?”

    From this report it seems his name was initially Barack Hussein Obama. Later to be changed to Barry Soetero because of adoption.
    The rest of the points I gave you I stand by.

  • Fed Up

    All these comments boil down to:

    We are scared.
    We hate anyone who is not like us.
    We need religion to feel like we are doing the right thing by being hateful.
    We are convinced we are right and cursed be those who do not believe us.
    We are more important than anyone else.

    Bonus: We are conspiracy theorists who don’t know how to research real information and believe anything we find on the internet that supports our claims.

  • true Christian

    Edwitness, corrections- (1.) Obama’s Mom was not from the tribe of Dan (She was English, Welsh, Swiss-German and French) No Jewish blood at all…(2.) Bush and Obama are tenth cousin and far removed from European royal blood. And (3.) Obama’s name at birth was Barry Dunham, later changed to Barry Soetoro and, even later, (never legally changed to Obama…There is no way Obama can ever be the antichrist…No Muslim will ever be accepted by the Jews.

    • Edwitness

      While I may not agree with some of his timeline conclusions, I have to say that I am impressed with his efforts at putting together an accurate geneology.
      He has found all of these to be true in B.H.O.
      Starting from oldest ancestor to today here goes.


      Many Christians, and watchers, have very strong opinions as to the proper lineage of the Biblical Antichrist. Many have ruled out Barack Hussein Obama for this reason. People have different reasons for believing one, or more, of the following about the lineage of the Antichrist. Some people say that:

      The Antichrist MUST be an Assyrian or
      The Antichrist MUST be from the Israeli tribe of Dan or
      The Antichrist MUST be a Muslim, and be traced to the Prophet Muhammed or
      The Antichrist MUST be traced to the Caesar’s Roman Empire or
      The Antichrist MUST be a Jew, and traced to King David.

      It would seem very unlikely that any one man could possibly be traced genealogically to all 5 of the above. Dr. Wills must have invested hundreds, if not thousands, of hours, attempting to prove all four of these genealogies of Barack Hussein Obama. Yes, the same retired Baptist minister, who was shown, by the Lord, that Obama confirmed the covenant of Dan. 9:27, on Oct. 29, 2008, thrusting the world into the Final 7 Years, has painstakingly constructed genealogies for all five of the above. It is my understanding that #1 and #2 above are the same genealogy, making only four genealogies.
      Richard L. Wills (28 Oct 2010)
      “Genealogy of BHO”

      This genealogical list shows a descent from Antiochus I Soter (Savior)
      to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr………………………………………………………………:
      –Seleucus Nicator I
      –Antiochus Soter I (soter-“Savior”) + Stratonice Antigonid
      –Antichus Theos II, King of SYRIA + Laodice
      –King SELEUCUS CALLINICUS of SYRIA + Queen Laodice II
      –Princess Laodice of Syria —& (brother)-ANTIOCHUS Megas III, the great, K of Syria
      + Heliucles of Bactria +Laodice III
      –King Eucratides I of Bactria –ANTIOCHUS IV Epiphanes, King of Syria
      –King Heliucles I of Bactria +Laodice IV of Syria (his sister)
      –King Heliucles II of Bactria –Laodice V of Syria
      –King Antialcidas ” ” +King Mitheredates III, Ponus IV, the great
      –King Amynfas of Peshwar –Laodice III Mitheredates
      –King Hermaeus ” ” +Antiochus III
      –Princes of Peshwar –King Mitheredates VI
      +King Kuyula Kadphises of the Kushans
      –King Venia Kadphises II of the Kushans
      –King Kanishka I of the Kushans
      –King Hvishka I of the Kushans
      –King Vasudeva of the Kushans (ruled 125-175)
      –King Kanishka III of the Kushans
      –King Vasudeva II of the Kushans
      –King Vasudeva III of the Kushans
      –King Vasudeva of Seistan (Kabul) Afganistan
      –Princess IIfra Hormizd III of Kabul, Afganistan
      + EMPEROR of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Shapur II of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Shapur III of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Shapur III of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Yezdigerd II of Sasania PERSIA
      +Shusandukhi (of Jewish Exile)
      –Emperor Vacahan (Bahram) Susania PERSIA
      –Emperor Yezdigerd III of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Peroz (Firaz) of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Kawadh I of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Chrosroel of Sasanian PERSIA
      + Princess of Turkey
      –Emperor Hormazd IV of Sasanian PERSIA
      +the daughter of Princes Khirad
      –Emperor Chosroe Pavez II of Sasanian PERSIA
      +Princess Sirian of the Ephtalites
      –Prince Shakryar of Sasanian PERSIA
      –Emperor Yazdigird of Sasanian PERSIA died abt 651
      +Priness Manya of Byzantine
      –Priness Izdundad
      +Bustanaiben Haninai (exile of the Jews)
      –Princess Hizdai Sharijar
      –Natronai ben Nehemiah (of Jewish exile)
      +daughter of Princess Hizdai
      –Habibai (of Jewish exile)
      –Natronai Al-Makir (a Duke) born 730
      +Alda (or Hilda) Pricess of the Franks
      –Saint Ida Raedburh (born 788)
      + King Egbert of England
      –King Aethelwulf of England +Osberga
      –King ALFRED THE GREAT +Alswitha
      –Aelthryth of Wessex + Baldwin II
      –Arnold I + Alix De Vermandois
      –Balswin III (911-961) + Matilda
      –Arnold II “the young” + Lady Susanne (Rosella)
      –Baldwin IV “The Bearded” +Olgiva of Luxembourg
      –COUNT Baldwin V of Flanders + Princess Adela of France
      –Countess Matilda of Flanders +KING William the Conqueror
      –King Henry I Beauclerc Plantagenet of England + Matilda Nesta
      –Empress Matilda
      –COUNT Geoffrey Plantagenet V + a concubine Adelaide
      –Hameline Plantegenet + Esabel De Warrenne
      –Isabel Plantagenet + Roger Bigod
      –Mary Bigod + Ranulf Fitz Robert
      –Ranulf Fitz Ranulf
      –Fitz Ralph Ranulf
      –John Fitz Randolph born abt 1325
      –Randulf Fitz John (1345-1388)
      –John Fitz Randolph (1374-1405)
      –Ralph Fitz John (1398- )
      –John Fitz Randolph (1480-1524) + Joan
      –Christopher Fitz Randolph (1495-1554) + Jane Langston
      –Christopher Fitz Randolph (1530-1588) + Ann Wood
      –Edward Fitz Randolph + Frances Howes
      –Edward Fitz Randolph + Elizabeth Blossom
      –Nathaniel Fitz Randolph
      –Samuel Fitz Randolph
      –Prudence Fitz Randolph + Shubail Smith
      –Mary Smith + Jonathan Dunham
      –Samuel Dunham
      –Jacob Dunham + Mary Ann Kearney
      –Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham (1894-1970) + Ruth Lucille Armour
      –Stanley Dunham (1918-1992) + Madelyn D. Payne (1922-2008)
      –Stanley Ann Dunham (1942-1995) + Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Kenya (Luo tribe)
      –BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, Jr. born 1961 + Michelle

      A DESCENDENT of The Selucid Dynasty/Persian Royalty/Syrian Royalty.
      A FIRST COUSIN about 69 times removed of ANTIOCHUS EPIPHANES IV.


      #1. The KUSHAN empire formed in the
      first century AD in the territories of
      ANCIENT Bactria in what is NOW
      northern Afghanistan & southern
      Tajikistan & Uzbekistan. It spread
      into parts of China.

      #2. The SASANIAN Persians were the
      last of the ANCIENT PERSIAN dynast-

      #3. The connections are all there on this
      genealogical report of Dr. Richard L. Wills.
      (not a recognized genealogist, but done
      with extreme dedication & research)…….
      Jewish///////////Prophet Muhammad of Islam/
      relationship to Antiochus Epihanes IV///////
      and TRIBE of DAN connections.

      Well there you go. Who’s to say?

      • 1 Timothy 4:1

        Edwitness, it is getting more difficult to post t this tiny and spiritually dead Baptist site (1 Timothy 4:1…You will find out soon enough who the Roman Prince of Daniel 9:27 is. And it isn’t Obama…Don’t take he mark of the Beast like the carnal Christians will

  • James Staten

    There is a gentleman that has studied for years the potential for King Abdullah II of Jordan to be the AntiChrist? I am going from memory, but I believe he was born to an English woman with Jewish roots. His Father was the Patriarch of the Hashemite Kingdom which traces it’s roots all the way back to Muhammad. Jordan basically controls the Temple Mount. If there is to be a Temple built on the Mount, a sharing arrangement, then he is in a position to allow it? The Jews would accept him because they are a Matriarchal society, and the Muslims would accept him because he is a direct descendant of Muhammad? Food for Thought

    • Suez

      @ James Staten. I heard a pastor from Florida teach on this years ago. I don’t listen to him anymore for reasons, but he also wrote a book about it. Now I wish I could remember his name for you…LOL

      • James Staten

        Suez, The gentleman I was referencing is Brother Sal Smario, he has done extensive work on this subject. You could be thinking about a gentleman in Florida named Joe Van Kovering? (spelling) Keep Looking Up, James

      • suez

        @James S. Yes Joe, that is his name. I haven’t listened to him in years, so I forgot. Old age ya know!

    • James Staten

      I am not looking for the man of sin to be revealed, but since yesterday when I posted my comments I have seen two articles about King Abdullah II of Jordan. One, President Obama didn’t have time to work him into a meeting, so the King by all indications was being snub, but at the last minute a meeting was scheduled on a tarmac before a flight? Second, On Debka Files today there is an article that states Jordan and Russia have entered an agreement which allows them to work around Israel in Southern Syria and perhaps America? Interesting!!!

  • Skywatcher

    I’m really disappointed to see so much time being wasted on speculations as to who the AC might be. We’re not going to be here to witness it anyway, so what difference does it make? How will that knowledge affect your life or mine today? It’s like placing bets on a hockey game, w/out having any investment into the team. It’s a waste of the most valuable commodity we each have: TIME.

    This activity runs in direct opposition to I Tim. 1: 4, “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.”

    I’m seeing endless speculations re: fables…is he or isn’t he? Does he qualify or not? Then his lineage and genealogy comes into play…

    I Tim. 4: 7, “But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.”

    We cannot obey this simple command! Seeing that causes me concern as to how well we will stand up if persecution comes to us on an individual basis…

    I don’t mean to sound self-righteous, but it would seem to me that Christ is not pleased with us for dwelling on the AC and not Him…

  • Christine

    I have learned how important it is to study the Old Testament to understand prophesy. Our God who knows the end from the beginning, will not be thwarted from his plan. His plan is to usher in the Kingdom of God where Christ will rule and reign. So many are confusing prophesy because they think those that dwell in the land called Israel, is all of Israel, when it is not. One must begin to carefully study and follow in scripture the history of Abraham and the promises God made to him, which God swore by himself, that those promises would not fail. Abraham & Sarah begot Isaac, to whom inherited the promises. Isaac and Rebecca had Esau and Jacob, and Jacob (slander) stole the birthright. Up to this point they were known as Hebrews. Not Jews. Jacob wrestled with the Angel and was renamed, Israel. He then married Leah & Rachel. Jacob (Israel) had twelve sons, By Leah, Rachel and their two handmaids. Only one son was named Judah, and the Bible never mentions Jews until much later. To make this short, all the sons represented a Tribe. These 12 Tribes were united under King David, but were later divided because of the sins of Solomon. See 1 Kings 11:1
    Jeroboam the son of Solomon reigned in the Southern Kingdom (Jerusalem) while Jeroboam ruled in the Northern Kingdom (Samaria). These two Kingdoms even went to war against each other.
    The Kingdoms have yet to be united….Because of the sins of Samaria (10 Tribes) God allowed the Assyrian’s to overcome them and they transplanted them and they were eventually scattered, loosing their identity. God divorced Israel (10 tribes, Northern Kingdom) His dealings with them are told in the book of Hosea. They are referred to separate as Israel, Ephraim, and Sumaria. God begins to prophesy to them by those names, while he speaks to Judah separately. This becomes very important as you read, to understand prophesy and what God is doing. Read about the two sticks, the two sisters, the scattering and the regathering. When you read, look for the specific Kingdom God is speaking to which will open up much prophesy. Judah is known because they continued to keep the Sabbath, but Israel did not and they were scattered among the Gentiles. From one end of the earth to another. Yet our God works all things together for the good, and by the scattering of his elect, all the nations of the world will be blessed through Abraham, as God promised to Abraham, as through them the Gospel has been preached. In the Old Testament God said, he would fish for them. Jesus said, “Come and I will make you fishers of men.” Jesus also said, “I have other sheep that are not of this fold.” “I come not but for the lost sheep of Israel.” Though he sifted them throughout the nations, not one has fallen to the ground. He has his eye on everyone of them. He is calling a people that looked not for him. His Sheep know his voice. I could go on and on but it takes to much study to explain it all.
    God promised Abraham that he would become a Great Nation and a Multitude of Nations. Ask yourself…Who are these multitude of Nations? Study the promises to Abraham that his seed would become as numerous as the sand of the sea…remember these promises God swore by himself. The Bible talks about the Time of Jacob’s trouble, but it says he will be saved out of it. Who is Jacob, but Israel, and who is Israel but the 12 Tribes, that God is going to unite in Christ. The Present state of Israel being no larger than New Jersey, is not all of Israel. Yet Paul said, “I show you a mystery ALL ISRAEL will be saved.” I am afraid our God thinks much bigger than we do, smile. Beware of replacement theology or the Hebrew roots movement that would bring you back under the law, for the Lord himself says to his people in the Old Testament that he will make a new covenant with them, not as in the days of Moses, but a new covenant, where he will write his laws upon their hearts.
    Beware of replacement theology and the Hebrew roots movement which would bring you back into bondage. Nevertheless study the Old Testament carefully and see that God is still working out his wonderful, awesome plan for all of us!
    It really doesn’t matter who the Anti-Christ will be….nothing and I mean nothing can happen until God allows it and our very hairs on our heads are numbered. We need to seek the Kingdom of God…..and fill our lamps with oil for great rejoicing is set before us, when we encounter the Fullness of his precious Love for us!!! God Bless you all in Christ our Lord and God!

    • Suez

      THANK YOU Christine! Finally, someone with some true wisdom and knowledge of the scriptures, instead of a lot of bla, bla, bla!!! And a BIG AMEN sister!!!! 🙂

    • Skywatcher

      Christine, a thousand “Thank You’s”, for taking the time to give this excellent backdrop to the nation of Israel! EXCELLENT! This was a great breath of fresh air!

      One of your statements really grabbed my attention: “Yet Paul said, “I show you a mystery ALL ISRAEL will be saved.”

      I believe “saved” is the operative word…born again… I may be incorrect, but I believe Paul was saying that representatives from all 12 tribes would be saved (in Christ Jesus) when He comes for His Church. Seeing that there are Messianic Jews all over the planet, this may not be so far-fetched.

      I also enjoyed your statements, “It really doesn’t matter who the Anti-Christ will be…” and “We need to seek the Kingdom of God…..and fill our lamps with oil for great rejoicing is set before us, when we encounter the Fullness of his precious Love for us!!!”


      • Sal

        @Sky You can’t even give a comment without having to make a correction,,,doing it once again,,,YOUR WAY! I for one, am so terribly tired of you and your “teachings”, and correcting EVERYONE, like your the BIG Cheese!!! Getting so sickening. Are you sure, your not Sharon???

        • Guest 3


          Concerning Skywatcher

          Someone posted this about him a couple days ago and I think they pegged him perfectly!:

          “Skywatcher has a black heart.
          He is nothing like Christ.
          He pretends to be a Christian but is not.
          He wants to impress others and exalt himself with his forked tongue.
          He has an antichrist spirit.
          You will know them by their fruit.

          Christ spoke of his kind in Matthew.

          O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. – Matthew 12:34 “

          • Sal

            Guest 3 Thanks! Well, I won’t go as far as to judge her/his salvation, as I am not God. But, the fruit is a bit smelly sometimes…Maybe she or he is just overly zealous. 😉 There is more to being a believer in Christ, than just quoting the scriptures. It takes lots of love and understanding! Which we all need at times, I’m sure!

        • Skywatcher

          Sal, I’m not “Sharon”, and I’m not the “Big Cheese”, my Father is! I’m just a splinter that has a little bite to it sometimes! 🙂 I see you didn’t like my response to Christine. I WASN’T correcting her! I was adding to what she had said.

          Did it put a dent in your knickers when I said, “I believe “saved” is the operative word…born again… I may be incorrect, but I believe Paul was saying that representatives from all 12 tribes would be saved (in Christ Jesus) when He comes for His Church.”

          That was a brainwave I had just had; an epiphany of sorts. I was putting it out there, to see what others’ thoughts were on it. That was NOT a correction! If you’re “so terribly tired of (me) and (my) teachings”, don’t read my posts! That’s simple! Others get quite a blessing from them. Some even find them funny by times.

          I come from the old school of theology that says, “If it’s not in God’s Word, it isn’t…” I have spent many MANY years studying God’s Word, training to be a pastor, so yes, I do have some inkling about that which I speak. And, I have the Holy Spirit dwelling in me, Whose voice I do happen to recognize.

          Why, I’m so glad we can have this time together! Let me share with you what He said to me this morning. I thought it was pretty cool. I had just come in from shoveling snow, and right out of the blue, He said, “Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.”

          I said, “Yep, that’s right!”

          He said, “If He is the only potentate (I Tim. 6: 15), then who are the “Kings”?

          I thought about it for a couple of seconds and then I said, “We are!” Did you know that, Sal?
          He then went on to explain that in the Millennial Reign of Christ, He is the only Monarch, and since we are going to be “kings and priests” in his kingdom, it only stands to good reason that we will be the “Kings”, Rev. 1: 6, 5, 10.

          Isn’t that amazing that He showed me that, because I was quiet and listening to His voice. For many years, I was thinking He would be the KING over world leaders; not so! Now…who will be the “Lords” in His title?

          I’ll let you masticate upon that one for awhile! Will you be a King or an underling in His kingdom?

          I’m just one of the King’s kids in training, doing what I’m supposed to do…”rightly dividing the word of truth”. So sorry you feel this way, but perhaps my opinions which are biblically based are the “meat” of the Word, and you’re still used to having pablum. Or, I could say it another way…if I am making corrections, perhaps it is because there is so much being said on sites like this that do NOT line up with God’s Word, that requires a little correction from time to time. Most of the time, I use God’s Word as a crutch to support my statements. If that offends you, take it up with God.

          Quite a number actually do appreciate my input. Let’s see how many of them appreciate yours, by the comments you get… Chillax, and don’t be in a hurry to judge others!

          It seems to me, I have as much right to voice my opinion as you do. If you don’t like it…that’s your prerogative; there are other sites that will happily allow you and others to fall into the ditch with the blind leaders.

          If you don’t like correction from God’s Word, then you are a “bastard” and “none of His.” Heb. 12: 5-10. Put that into your pipe, and smoke whatever flavor you want out of it. Maranatha!

          • Sal

            Sky: Once again….bla, bla, bla.. And no I don’t read some of your posts. Who has the time??? And there you go once again, judging, saying I don’t like correction from Gods word. LOL And you know me, HOW? I do love correction from God and his word, But, sorry to inform you, your NOT him! Your not my teacher, nor anyone Else’s on here. Sorry to disappoint you. You claim to be so very “spiritual”, yet you put others down all the time. In fact, sometimes your just mean and nasty, like to MRH. You talked with the other one, about him, like he wasn’t even here. You think your right and everyone else is wrong. If someone doesn’t go along with “your” interpretation of the scriptures, then they are hell bound. That is just really sad. Just because someone can quote the scriptures, means nothing. It is the fruit that counts, and yours is has a tensity to smell at times. Please save your “holier than thou” attitude for someone who believe you, I for one have my doubts. Rom_12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, NOT to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 1Co_10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. You may be saved, I don’t judge someones salvation, unlike you, but you have a long ways to go in presenting yourself. Your attitude to people stinks. You need to love people, and have charity, despite the fact that you may have differing opinions. 1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And as far as you saying: “Did it put a dent in your knickers when I said, “I believe “saved” is the operative word…born again… I may be incorrect, but I believe Paul was saying that representatives from all 12 tribes would be saved (in Christ Jesus) when He comes for His Church.” That is kind of a no brain-er. I believe most people would think the same, even if they don’t have your “abilities”. I’m sure Christine would even know it, despite your adding to it! 🙂 You must think everyone but you, is totally stupid and void of all knowledge of scripture. I’m sure a lot of us here have also been studying for years and years, maybe even longer than you. My prayer for you is that you learn to walk in humility, then maybe the things you have to offer would be taken to be more sincere. Bye

          • Heather

            I want to tell you something, my dear brother Skywatcher. Are you familiar with Bro Nick? I love Bro Nick as my big brother in Christ. He will comment on this site for a little while and then we don’t hear from him more months. Then he’ll come back and then leave again. Bro Nick shines the truth of God’s Word into the darkness. He boldly proclaims the truth against false teachings. When he’s here, God raises him up. For millions of people read these comments. I miss Bro Nick, but I have to say that your boldness in the truth of God’s Word reminds me of Bro Nick and you are so needed here.
            God bless you brother!

        • Heather

          Well l for one, love Skywatcher as do many others on this site.

          • Char

            Heather, Amen to your comment re: Skywatcher! Sounds like a couple of guys might have to pray about the spirit of jealousy…..God Bless Skywatcher’s spiritual gifts of teaching and helping others.

          • Larry / vietnamvet1971

            I agree, I also like to read skywatchers comments and find them to be Bible based grounded in the Word of GOD.

      • Christine

        Yes, Skywatcher, I indeed mean “Born Again” For it is not by power, nor by might, but by my Spirit saith the Lord. For as he says, Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God: Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come. Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.
        And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence. And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh and will give them an heart of flesh. That they may walk in my statues, and keep mine ordinances, and do them; and they shall be my people and I will be their God. EZE 11: 16-20
        For he says to them, “Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee. Behold I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; they walls are continually before me.” Isa 49:15
        “Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold; all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the Lord, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth. Isa 49: 18
        “For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean; from all your filthiness, and from all you idols will I cleanse you.” Eze 36: 24-25
        “Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; It shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.”
        For the Lord says, “I will work a work in your day that you will not believe, thou it be told you.”
        “Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid; but rather through their all salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles, how much more their fullness.” Romans 11:11 & 12…..verse 15: “For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead.”
        “For I would not, brethren that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be save; as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins……con’t on in same paragraph….
        God has bound all over to unrighteousness so he might have mercy on all. His mercy rejoices over judgment! The sure mercies of David….he which holds the Keys to the House of David. All the Tribes came together under the reign of David…how much more when Christ rules and reigns to whom the Kingdom belongs! God Bless you Skywatcher

        • Skywatcher

          Thank you, Christine, for clarifying that point. I thought that was what you meant, but for others reading…I didn’t want to see them left dangling with the wrong idea that ALL of Israel will be saved. It could end up in a mass migration to Israel, and they just wouldn’t be able to handle it! Kidding! 🙂 God richly bless you, as you continue to “rightly divide the word of truth”! 🙂

          • Christine

            I am sorry Skywatcher as perhaps you did not read carefully the scriptures that I wrote as they were spoken concerning Israel. Paul goes into much detail concerning this, and it is Paul which say’s in Romans the 11th chapter verse 25, “For I would not brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits. that blindness (in part) is happened to Israel, until the Gentiles be come in…And so ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED.”
            speaking to the Gentiles, “For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief; Even so have these also now not believed, that that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon them all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! and his ways past finding out.”
            Note here whom he is speaking to and about…..Romans 9: 24-26 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews (Judah) only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Osee (Hosea), I will call them my people, which were not my people, and her beloved which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.” He is speaking to the Northern Tribes which he divorced and told them they are not his people because they had played the harlot. He scattered them, but in Christ, he is going to gather them again.
            Then concerning the Tribe of Judah….They will look upon him and they shall weep for him as one weeps for an only son. God chose to bring blindness in part upon them and by their blindness the promise to Abraham, that all the nations of the world would be blessed through him, would come to pass. Paul clearly says, “Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid; but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles….to provoke them to jealousy.
            None of us came to Christ by our own merit, for it is written that no one comes to him, unless the Father draws them. While they seek to keep the Law according to the flesh, is it not written on our hearts. For if Jesus says, To love the Lord thy God with all your soul and all your might and the second like onto the first, To love your neighbor as yourself, by the Spirit is not all the law fulfilled in these Two? For who can say that they Love God and hate their brother? Or who can say they love their neighbor yet steal from him, or commit adultery. On these two hang the law and the prophets. By this we bear fruit, because we walk after the Spirit and not the flesh. But those that walk after the Flesh by the Law of Moses, having received the Law, is God not able to renew their Spirit in Grace which he has done for us, who sought not after him? For he said, “Render your heart and not your garment.” If we boast, are not rending our garment? We must pray fervently for our brothers and sisters that remain under the law, that the same Grace of God given us, will be shed abroad in our hearts unto them, for through them came our Savior.

  • Char

    Hey Skywatcher, your comment said that people are running for office at a younger age, so perhaps Kanye West has a shot at becoming president the next time around because he has declared that he is running for the presidency in the next election. I don’t know why he would stoop so low since he already thinks he’s Jesus. LOL Pretty scarey, huh? Keep up the good work on this website of teaching and praying for the needs of others when needed and ignore the jealous folks. You are a blessing to many of us on this site! God Bless!

  • Char

    Ooops, that was Kiwiwatcher (I get my watchers mixed up) that made the comment about the younger men running for office, but I did mean that about Skywatcher being a blessing to us on this site. You too, Kiwiwatcher. Enjoy all your comments too.

  • Skywatcher

    What a mighty and wonderful Lord we serve! He was kind enough to give us the heads up, that we could expect to be persecuted for His very name’s sake! I count myself honored to be able to do so! Sal and a couple of other trolls have done wondrous things for me! I thank them for their loving, kind, gracious and Christlike comments toward me! Such love was not found in all of Samaria! 🙂

    I speak as the Lord directs; I’m not looking for a “cloud of witnesses” to agree with me; all are welcome to agree or disagree. If I say something that IS out of line with God’s Word, I WELCOME feedback/correction. I’m still human and I can make mistakes, especially when getting tired.

    I have learned that being on the front lines in battle for the Savior, will mean taking some “fiery darts of the wicked” every now and again. My spiritual armor quickly deflects them when I get such kind compliments as many of you afford me, from time to time. I don’t mind taking the fiery darts that fall off; Christ took a whole spear for me, and it STUCK! It wasn’t pretty either, but it helped to purchase our salvation!

    I would like to say a HUGE “THANK YOU”, to those who kindly spoke up on my behalf! That is real Christianity, “In honor, preferring one another”. Rom. 12: 10.

    I don’t ask for accolades, but let me tell you, when one gets kicked enough times, the accolades sure do come in handy! 🙂 You dear ones have greatly encouraged me, like wind beneath my wings. The stinky winds blow in from time to time, dump their refuse, and then quickly move on. We can expect that.

    There is not a family that doesn’t have a squabble here or there, and we’re members in the family of God. Perhaps there are times when we do not agree, but we keep the love of Christ alive, and stand up for Jesus! Sometimes, “tough love” is required in my comments, and people do not recognize it as such, but as “mean, nasty, hateful”, etc. That’s not the way it is intended when typed.

    Whole congregations are going to hell because their pastors and leadership are lacking the spiritual fortitude to deal with such issues. The perpetrator is allowed to continue in their wrong, taking other believers down with them. I don’t believe that is God’s will for His children, according to Heb. 12: 5-10.

    Like Job, “Though He slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him. He also shall be my salvation…”. Job 13: 15, 16a.

    I realize that none of us are all on the same level when it comes to experience in God’s Word. That’s o.k. Therefore, when the weaker vessels or cracked pots scream out, it is easily recognized, and I still speak as the Holy Spirit gives me utterance. It may NOT be for them, but it definitely is for somebody, or He wouldn’t waste my time or energy. Walking closely to the Savior is such an awesome journey! I get to hear His voice ever so often, and it’s NOT always what I want to hear. Sometimes, He takes me out to the woodshed…Heb. 12: 11 says the rest,

    “…nevertheless, afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.”

    When I BEGIN to read comments that start to tear me apart, like a Christian in an arena with a lion, I usually delete it before reading very far into it in most cases, unless there is a point that NEEDS to be made. The Holy Spirit checks me if I go to hit the delete button too soon and I finish reading it. And, He’s always right!

    God knows my heart, and apparently, you do also, and I thank you so much! I’m reminded of the words of our Savior, “…every city or house divided against itself shall not stand…” Mt. 12: 25. In Christ, let’s continue to stand together! I so look forward to meeting you dear ones in Heaven, and spending eternity with you and countless others. SOON!

    “Persecution often does in this life, what the last great day will do completely, separate the wheat from the tares.” James Milner

    Much love in Christ Jesus, (to those who don’t agree on all points with me, also!)

    A fellow twig in the True Vine,
    PS: Watch! Some will find fault with this post too! 🙂

    • Larry / vietnamvet1971

      Skywatcher, we read your comments and dissertations and I for one appreciation your comments so “Keep Pressing toward the mark of the high calling which is in CHRIST JESUS” our LORD & Savior.

    • Char

      Skywatcher, as I’ve already said above, I enjoy your comments. They are a blessing to me and others AND you don’t have to defend yourself against “the pharisees”. God Bless!

    • Heather

      Skywatcher, the following is a re-post of what Bro Nick posted in this previous article that Geoffrey put out early last year. His comments relate to attacks on the brethren. I will re-post several others as well. Yes, Bro Nick shines light into the darkness with the sword of God’s Word, and so do you Skywatcher!


      Bro. Nick Nicholas
      13 February 2015 at 1:48 am

      @ Believer – AMEN ! ! !
      While I personally have CURRENTLY come to the Biblical understanding that ‘the Rapture of the church’ is ‘pre-tribulation’ –

      1] I am not ‘dogmatic’ in my personal understanding – FOR I know that I know very little of the real meanings that “the only wise
      God” has written in the 783,137 words of the Holy Bible [KJV]
      – and it is written in “the truth” of “the word of the LORD”:
      “Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought
      to know.” (1 Cor 8:1b-2 [KJB])
      – – AND – –
      “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
      And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.” (1 Cor 13:12-13 [KJB])
      2] My Biblical understanding is that ‘the when of ‘the Rapture’ IS NOT a ‘Salvation Doctrine’
      – and I personally refuse to ‘break fellowship’ with my Brother or Sister in “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” who do not share
      my personal understanding! The Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 14: [KJB]:
      “16) Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
      17) For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
      18) For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
      19) Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
      20) For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
      21) It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made
      22) Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
      23) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.”
      3] If others choose to be ‘dogmatic’ – and/or condemn me for my personal Biblical understandings – and/or for my not being
      ‘dogmatic’ – that is their choice – BUT no man or woman is the judge of anyone else’s personal Salvation:
      “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” (Rom 14:12 [KJB])
      – ALL CHRISTians should read and seriously think upon the deep meanings of the entire chapter of Romans 14.

      As the Apostle Paul wrote to his truly “converted” CHRISTian Brothers and Sisters – I most sincerely pray:
      “Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
      Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.”
      (Eph 6:23-24 [KJB])

      • Skywatcher

        Thank you, Heather, for that excellent and encouraging article! this brother definitely had it “together”, and he knew upon whom he stood, and the rest of the world could like it or lump it. That’s a good “shot in the arm” for today! We never stand alone when we have Christ living within! 🙂 Thank you, and may you experience a very acute sense of God’s Presence, peace, and power in your life today and always!

      • Dan

        Thank you Heather for that repost. How many times have we came back to this topic( arguing about when the tribulation will occur) ; 2 many!

        Will this be the last time; I doubt it. How many times have we warned about condemning each other ; 2 many.

        How many times have I wanted to interject my opinion into one of these topicS ; 2 many.

        How many times have I decided 2 let it go because there are more important things ; still counting !

        • Skywatcher

          Dan, thank you, for the laugh! You are soooo right!

  • Heather

    Re-post #2 from


    Bro. Nick Nicholas
    11 February 2015 at 2:05 pm

    @ Jane Doe – You said – ‘ this false doctrine of a Rapture invented by John Darby’. You are not correct in this statement.

    What did the first century church fathers believe about the Rapture?
    Beginning and End @

    Ephraim The Syrian – Ephraim (306 AD – 373 AD) – In his work, On The Last Times 2, he wrote:

    “We ought to understand thoroughly therefore, my brothers, what is imminent or overhanging. Already there have been hunger
    and plagues, violent movements of nations and signs, which have been predicted by the Lord, they have already been fulfilled
    (consummated), and there is not other which remains, except the advent of the wicked one in the completion of the Roman
    kingdom. Why therefore are we occupied with worldly business, and why is our mind held fixed on the lusts of the world or on
    the anxieties of the ages? Why therefore do we not reject every care of worldly business, and why is our mind held fixed on the
    lusts of the world or on the anxieties of the ages? Why therefore do we not reject every care of earthly actions and prepare
    ourselves for the meeting of the Lord Christ, so that he may draw us from the confusion, which overwhelms all the world? Believe
    you me, dearest brother, because the coming (advent) of the Lord is nigh, believe you me, because the end of the world is at
    hand, believe me, because it is the very last time.
    Or do you not believe unless you see with your eyes? See to it that this sentence be not fulfilled among you of the prophet who

    “Woe to those who desire to see the day of the Lord!” (Amos 5:18a)
    For all the saints and elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the
    confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins. And so, brothers most dear to me, it is the eleventh hour, and the
    end of the world comes to the harvest, and angels, armed and prepared, hold sickles in their hands, awaiting the empire of the
    Lord. And we think that the earth exists with blind infidelity, arriving at its downfall early. Commotions are brought forth, wars of
    diverse peoples and battles and incursions of the barbarians threaten, and our regions shall be desolated, and we neither
    become very much afraid of the report nor of the appearance, in order that we may at least do penance; because they hurl fear
    at us, and we do not wish to be changed, although we at least stand in need of penance for our actions!”
    “Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
    As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit
    Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?”
    (Amos 5:18-20 [KJB])

    – which is why pre-great tribulation believing CHRISTians are to pray for “the coming of the day of God”
    – “the LORD JEHOVAH” in his wondrous Mercy has not appointed “the church” to endure or go thru His “wrath”

    “Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
    (2 Peter 3:12-13 [KJB])

  • Skywatcher

    Lucy Wain, you are absolutely correct on all points! Amen and AMEN!

  • Heather

    Re-post #3

    Bro. Nick Nicholas
    11 February 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Sister Geri – Thank you for your Biblical research and well written articles. I pray that the following will be as much of a help to
    you as it is being to me.

    The Loneliness of the ‘Biblical CHRISTian’

    (A re-titled and edited Excerpt)

    The loneliness of the ‘Biblical CHRISTian’ results from his walk with “the LORD GOD” in an increasingly anti-GOD world, a walk that
    must often take him away from the fellowship of the majority who say that they are ‘Christians’ – as well as from those of the
    unregenerate world.
    His GOD-given instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his
    aspirations, his absorption in the love of “the Lord Jesus Christ”; and because within his circle of friends there are so very “few in
    number” who share his inner experiences, understandings, and spiritual desires – he is forced to walk alone.

    The unsatisfied longings of the Old Testament Prophets for human understanding caused them to cry out in their complaint –
    and even “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” Himself suffered in the same way.

    The man [or woman] who has passed on into the divine Presence in actual inner experience will not find many who understand
    He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the
    midst of noisy religious shoptalk – for this he earns the reputation of being dull and over-serious, so he is avoided and the gulf
    between him and society widens.

    He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces, and finding few – if any – he, like Mary- the mother of our Lord, keeps these things in his heart.

    It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon “the Lord God Almighty”. His inability to find human companionship drives him to seek in “the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy” that which he can find nowhere else.

    Modified text from –
    Man – The Dwelling Place of God,
    Chapter 39: “The Saint Must Walk Alone” – by A. W. Tozer
    – Original @

    • Christine

      Thank you Heather for sharing this insight. It is true that there is great longing to share among those that likewise seek to know the depths and riches of his grace. It is a very lonely place indeed. One is indeed put off by those that seek to argue or may indeed knowingly or unknowingly seek their own glory. When you hear the truth there is no confusion and the Spirit of God that dwells in you gives witness to that truth and you desire to hear more and be filled. The Scripture clearly proves that God is Love, and by this we know that we are born of him, if we love the brethren. For if we say we love God whom we have not seen but hate our brother who we have seen, we are a liar and the truth is not in us. We know who is of God by the fruit which they produce.
      Most certainly the timing of the rapture, or whether one accepts it or not, should never be a measuring stick for how we accept the brethren. Though I have studied deeply for 40 years and it remains the last passion in my elder years, I still have not been convinced of whether the rapture is pre, mid or post. Nor am I one hundred percent positive that there is a rapture in the sense that most share. while I know those in Christ are not appointed to wrath, I am not convinced that they will not see tribulation. Yet this fact that I must say to be honest, it does not separate me from my Lord and Savior. I trust that he means what he says when he says he will do nothing without revealing it to his people first. Sometimes in my life, I have thought that I must insert my efforts to make what the Lord has spoken come to pass….this of course is wrong, even Sarah had to learn this when she did not wait on the Lord for the promised child.
      So indeed it is a lonely place to be when other’s are so sure of what is going to happen and yet a scripture will come to you and make you question the truth of that belief. Of course I have my opinions…one thing being that I question why America built such a large base in Iraq (Babylon)? It was said to be larger than the Vatican. It has shopping, theater’s, swimming ect. I noted in Revelations that the ephod (Bushel) is carried by to Storks (unclean birds) and carries this bushel and places it back on it’s original place. Could this present situation in the Middle East and desire to settle it cause the UN to move to that base? Would it not make sense to the people that it would have the upper hand on keeping the peace if it was there? Like other’s these are thoughts that I think about because of how present history is playing out. This is a greater possibility if the people living in Israel are suddenly attacked or war breaks out by them attacking Iran’s nukes. This way the UN could also perhaps push to divide the land of Israel.
      Again these are just thoughts….no one knows for sure until God begins to unfold it. Then those that have studied will have understanding. Just as they did not understand why Jesus must die, until he revealed it to them. Sometimes Christians have a hard time just saying I don’t know! Honestly all the speculations that we have is just that, specualtions, until we see it unfolding….Then we are to look up! Thank you again Heather for the wonderful insight.

      • Heather

        Bless you sister Christine. At least we have eachother to talk to on this site. I only stick with 2-3 consistent sites because there is SO MUCH confusion out in the world right now, and esspecially within the Church. We have to stick together, edifying one another because darkness is definitely magnifying itself world wide. I hope you will continue to post on this site, for we can see God is with you. It’s interesting what you said and also about the base in Iraq.
        Wow have things changed since I was little. Mid 60’s
        May God bless you and keep you Christine….

    • Skywatcher

      Heather, thank you SO MUCH! That article describes me to a “T” when he talks of loneliness! That’s exactly how I feel in these last days, and to be brutally honest, it’s getting more and more difficult to discern what Christians one can trust in their circle! I’m finding that many Christians are more suspicious of each other than they are of trusting. Isn’t that awful! Then again, if they’ve been hurt by these critters as oft as I have, I can understand why, but most of them are this way due to self-rightous attitudes, and a ghost behind every tree mentality.

      I have been hurt by so many “Christians” in the past 20+ years because I won’t conform to their idea of Christianity. I WILL NOT compromise! I allow the hurts to make me stronger, and I learn valuable lessens each time. However, the scar tissue has a tendency to get thicker, and that is not always a good thing. It can protect to some degree, from future attacks, but at the same time it can cause one to become a bit insensitive toward others, and that happens with me from time to time.

      It would be so nice to have a Christian to fellowship with that isn’t going to turn you in at the first chance they are given. Or to understand why I’m so happy and excited about serving God, that all of a sudden, I can just throw my hands up into the air and give God praise and worship that He is so worthy of. They just don’t get it! When His presence enters into my space so acutely, I cannot help but to acknowledge Him. Some of the people in the Baptist church I started attending would have me removed from their midst if they knew I actually could feel the love of God burn deep within my soul, and I react in this emotionally charged manner!

      As I said before, their idea of worship is to sing three hymns, take up the offering, pray for 1.5 minutes and go home. They are missing out on so much! There is NO time allotted for praise and worship; it’s all drudgery and obligation for them to serve God. They believe they have it “pegged” just right and everybody else is under a demonic spell for stepping outside of their “box”.

      I’m struggling a bit today, as to how it is o.k. for a child to get excited, to jump up and down, to shed a few tears of joy or gratitude, but it’s to be TURNED OFF when we become adults! Children are allowed to get excited about Jesus, and what He has done for them; we encourage it, but adults are to be stoic, emotionless, and dusty! They kill it for other baby Christians or for others who are truly seeking! Who wants to wallow around in a dusty old coffin under the pretense of “church”? I believe they actually try to kill the spirit in other Christians because it doesn’t fit their paradigm. Such is the struggle today.

      I’m sure there was emotion of every kind when Christ first presented Himself to His own after His resurrection. I bet there was joy “unspeakable and full of glory” and NOBODY dared to tell them they were overcome by a spirit or emotionalism. Why are we so afraid to express emotion to the One who gave it to us? I don’t understand.

      My Shepherd/lab X dog has seen me lift my hands and praise the Lord so many times, that now, when I walk by, he raises a paw too! I kid you not! It’s the funniest thing to see! I then paws (pun intended) to give thanks for my faithful and loyal puppy pal, loving him at the same time!

      Thank you, Heather, for reposting these articles, reminding me that I am NOT alone with my concerns or feelings! They were no doubt a blessing when first posted, but truth never changes, so they are a repeat blessing!

      • Heather

        You are welcome Skywatcher. It’s funny how the Lord leads all of us to just do something we hadn’t planned to do. Thus He encouraged you through Bro Nick’s re-posting. There was so many to choose from. I’m glad to know you were encouraged, for you are always encouraging to others. As you mentioned the hardening of the heart, honestly, I believe in these last days we have to watch ourselves in terms of not allowing our hearts to harden. These are no ordinary days and the Lord Jesus knows the fiery darts that we are up against. I believe one of the main causes in the hardening of ones heart besides being hurt, is recognizing false teaching and false prophesying. It’s so offensive when it happens because we recognize that whats being said is contrary to the Word of God.
        Heres a good example;
        Something that made me SO angry was when poopdrah Francis brought his abominations to this soil,(USA) even though it has its fill of abominations, and he promoted that filthy interfaith gathering, intending to magnify the very false notion that we all worship the same God. He’s mocking the One True God, the only God. The God of Israel, of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. The God who made everything and without Him nothing was made. Who has given us breath, food and water, our children, our health, our means to work and make a living while we are passing through this life. The list simply goes on and on. After that gathering, my anger brought me to tears. I found myself apologizing to God for what was done. I think of how He must feel looking down on earth seeing all these abominations. Its things like this that can harden a born again believer’s heart if we let it. Many times its a righteous anger. Theres much to be angry about these days. Where are the Pastor’s? Where are they? Nothing but silence because their too afraid of losing those 501 3c’s. It’s no wonder judgment will start in the house of God!

        I absolutely applaud you Skywatcher for standing as you do! Don’t let satan knock you down, for you are most definitely
        building treasures in heaven and we love you just as you are. You are a splendid and wonderful child of the Living God.
        The Lord Jesus knows what we need. His eyes are upon us.
        Home soon brethren. Home soon PTL !

        • Skywatcher

          Heather, you did it! Your very kind and anointed words brought tears to my eyes! Thank you, so much for your contributions to the Kingdom Family of God! I’m saving those (as I have others’) for the dark days that are coming! We must stand up for

          Yes, I too, share the same questions and concerns about the clergy these days; weak as water and as deceived as Eve! I also get struck with righteous anger by times, and as bad as it shows sometimes, I can only dare to imagine the impact our sin-sick world is making on our Heavenly Father! Is it any wonder He’s saving “the best” of His wrath until last?!

          I’m so glad we have a homecoming to look forward to!

          God bless you, my dear sister in Christ! You’re a great encourager!

      • Deborah

        Skywatcher, after reading your post, I do not feel so alone anymore. I agree with you that Satan does everything he can to get true Christians quarreling and doubting each other. I too have experienced that many times. These days, I am trying to pay special heed to I and II Timothy for encouragement. Blessings to you, brother!

  • Heather

    Re-post #4

    Bro. Nick Nicholas
    18 February 2015 at 1:04 am

    @ Marc & Laura – Why do you make such divisive comments about those of us that have come to the Biblical understanding of
    ‘the pre-Tribulation Rapture’, saying that we need milk and that Prayers are needed for us?

    One question – would you appreciate it if I or someone else made the same comments at you?
    CHRISTians should all remember and do what “the Lord Jesus Christ” personally said in the Biblical ‘Golden Rule’:
    “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the
    (Matt 7:12 [KJB])

    While I am not a fan of Dr. Tim LeHay, I absolutely do agree with the following quote made by him and others when they state
    – “The timing of the rapture is not a cardinal doctrine that should divide God’s people, but those who interpret the Bible literally
    find many strong reasons to believe that the rapture will be pre-tribulational”
    (The Popular Encyclopedia of Bible Prophecy, 289).’
    If you would say – ‘It is my understanding’ – that is fine – but when you state when ‘the Rapture’ will or will not occur – you are

    For those who PROPHESY that ‘the Rapture’ is NOT Pre-Tribulation – have you ever heard or read what ‘The Shepherd of Hermas’
    (95-150 AD) – or ‘Ephraim The Syrian’ (306 AD – 373 AD) wrote about their understanding of when ‘the Rapture’ would occur?

    I personally will not question your personal understanding and belief – for the when of ‘the Rapture’ is not an ‘essential doctrine’
    that affects Biblical Salvation.

    There are those that are my CHRISTian Brethren that have different ‘when the Rapture occurs’ personal beliefs/understandings,
    yet we can have a meaningful conversations
    – for they do not try to ‘cram their personal beliefs’ down anyone elses’ throats, nor make derogatory statements about my
    Biblical understanding(s) of non-Salvation Doctrines.
    – and I certainly do not try to force my personal understanding upon them or make adversarial or derogatory statements about
    them or their personal Biblical understanding(s) of non-Salvation Doctrines!

    It would be well if all truly “born again” “converted” followers of “the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” would think about – and remember – and do unto our Brethren:
    “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light,
    we have fellowship one with another,
    and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
    (1 John 1:7 [KJB])

    “Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
    Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:
    condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:
    forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:”
    (Luke 6:36-37 [KJB])

  • Heather

    Re-post #5 (Miss you Bro Nick, I hope your doing well brother and I hope you’ll come back soon!)

    Bro. Nick Nicholas
    13 February 2015 at 5:16 am

    @ Mark Glaab – Your comments sure do describe the current ‘end-of-the-end times’ in which increasing spiritual deceptions –
    and delusions – and “falling away” from “the truth” of “the word of the LORD” all are occurring more and ever-more rapidly.
    The following exerpt may be of interest –

    Europe in Prophecy – The end time revival of the Roman Empire
    by Dr. David R. Reagan @

    – “I am reminded of a statement made 60 years ago by Paul Henri-Spaak (1899-1972), the former Prime Minister of Belgium, the
    first Chairman of the General Assembly of the United Nations (1945), and one of the key founders of the movement toward
    European unity. He said: “We do not want another committee. We have too many already. What we want is a man of sufficient
    stature to hold the allegiance of all people, and to lift us out of the economic morass in which we are sinking. Send us such a man
    and, be he God or the devil, we will receive him.
    Such a man is on the horizon as we witness the resurrection of the Roman Empire, an end time event prophesied over 2,500
    years ago by the prophet Daniel (2:31-45).”

    The Lord Jesus Christ personally told His disciples:
    “It is impossible but that OFFENCES will come:
    but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast
    into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.”
    (Luke 17:1-2 [KJB])
    “And GOD saw that the WICKEDNESS of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was
    only evil continually.”
    (Gen 6:5 [KJB]

    “The heart is DECEITFUL above all things, and desperately WICKED: who can know it?”
    (Jer 17:9 [KJB])
    “The WICKED walk on every side, when the VILEST men are exalted.”
    (Ps 12:8 [KJB])

    “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice:
    but when the WICKED beareth rule, the people mourn.”
    (Prov 29:2 [KJB])

    Me thinks that the whole world is evermore rapidly becoming exponentially more and more EVIL and WICKED:
    “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives,
    they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
    Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the
    same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”
    (Luke 17:26-29 [KJB])

    As you said – ‘I read the end of the book’:
    “He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
    The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.”
    (Rev 22:20-21 [KJB])

    – CAPITALization and emphasis of “the word of the LORD” mine – Bro. Nick

  • Char

    Skywatcher, isn’t it funny (frustrating) when you try to teach people something in the Word and they get all up tight about it, as if you are a know it all! Kinda shows their true spirit! Keep up the good work of teaching!

    • Skywatcher

      Chuckle! 🙂 It sure can be, Char! Usually, it’s the ones who are too lazy to do their homework that crow the loudest and the longest. We plant the seed, and another waters! Truth never changes, or His name couldn’t be Christ: Jn. 14: 6; Heb. 13: 8. Thanks.

  • Skywatcher

    Kiwiwatcher, as I was re-reading some of the posts one you said jumped off the page at me,

    “I suspect we will soon enter an era of rock-star-celebrity like politicians. Younger, more dynamic, shallow, and very little in the way of apparent baggage. Justin Trudeau (43) of Canada, David Cameron took office in Britain aged 43, Obama became president aged 47. Italy’s Matteo Renzi was elected aged 43, Malta’s PM has turned 42, Luxemburg’s PM Xavier Bettel 42, Romanian leader Victor Ponta 42”.

    I just had a thought! These OLD 40-something poops will have to move over when a handsome young 33 year old Jewish “rookie” appears on the block! His name is King Jesus, King of Kings and Lord of Lords! Unfortunately, I don’t think any of them will be here to see His glorious millennial reign on earth. I’m sure He’ll do a much better job of it than they or their ancestors before them did! However…they will have to bend their knees to Him: Phil. 2: 10, 11!

    • Kiwiwatcher

      Interesting you should mention that Skywatcher. Our Lord Jesus Christ looks nothing like the catholic images and our imaginations. This is key in determining the validity of anyone professing to have seen a vision of Jesus and received a ‘special message.’ Test the spirits. I love it, how God knows the heart of man, and He covered all bases in equipping us with Spiritual armor.

      After Stephen – John is the first person to see Jesus Christ. The two had an incredible friendship on earth, that Jesus looked down from the Cross “When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple (John) standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
      27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. John 19:26-27.

      This image of his Savior and best friend must have been immense to John. Here was Jesus suffering, His body bleeding and battered, with blood running down his agonised face. Unknown to the mocking soliders, they had played their part in fulfilling prophecy. On His head they placed a crown of thorns – representing the sins of the world, from when they first entered mankind in the Garden of Eden. “Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee…” Genesis 3:18. The head being the integral object – “on thy head.” Priests at the Temple would place their hands on the head of a goat, transmitting the sin prior to the animal being sacrificed.

      Then about forty years later John is in the Spirit on the island of Patmos, when he hears a great voice as a trumpet.

      Revelation 1: 13-17 “And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
      14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
      15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
      16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
      17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:”

      Here is Jesus Christ our Lord viewed after sitting at the right hand of His Father. John fainted seeing his Savior and friend, and fell down as though dead. What must have been so apparent was His hair, which was as white like wool, as white as snow. John immediately knew the ultimate price had been paid in full. His mind would have cast back to Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.”

      There are a huge amount of other details to note, like this is the first appearance of Jesus Christ – and it is to the seven Churches.
      And His garments.
      But for – it is the story of John seeing his Savior and friend for the first time. And the right hand which had been previously been nailed to the Cross – was placed on John’s shoulder to reassure him. “Fear not; I am the first and the last”
      Secondly – His appearance contrasts greatly with the imagery portrayed today and declared by those claiming to have met our Lord recently in a vision.

      • Skywatcher

        You’ve got it, Kiwiwatcher! You tied it all up in a very nice and succinct package! I wonder, when John saw Jesus’ hair in v. 14, “white as wool”, if it was really “white”, or if it was the best way He could describe the dazzling glory of our Lord’s brightness? After all, this was not the first time Christ appeared in a “dazzling” form of such brightness:

        Mark 9: 2, “…and he was transfigured before them. 3. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.”

        Acts 26: 13: “At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me…v.15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.”

        Heb. 1:3, “Who (Christ) being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person…”

        I don’t know everything, but this one thing I DO know for sure: There’s definitely LOTS to look forward to!

  • Dianne

    Obama has the spirit of the anti-Christ but he is NOT the ANTI-Christ. We must remain in scripture so that the HOLY SPIRIT can show us truth from human speculation. God never lies.

    1John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there MANY antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    Revelation 13:16-17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

  • james casNova

    Geoffrey ” maybe it is not a horrible idea for this cohort to become un secretary !! Think of the world wide exposure , the more chance of vanguishing what needs to be destroyed ?

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  • Char

    Dr. Mike, I agree with you about “Apostle” Patricia. Sometimes she sounds like she’s been dipping in the sauce or her drugs aren’t quite working out for her. I can’t always understand her sentences. Maybe it’s just me! God Bless!

  • Thomas

    The Devil is much smarter than any human. Don’t get caught up in trying to figure it all out. We all have our spheres of influence, so do what you can where you are. Remember that “talk is cheap”–Eccl. 5:7 NLT, and “Who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.”–1 John 5:5 NLT. Also: “Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.” — Matthew 7:20 NLT. I like the New Living Translation. I grew up with the King James Version. I also have a Thompson Chain-reference Study Bible(NIV), which contains a lot of interesting information in addition to the Scriptures. I recommend you not only read, but study, the Bible. Pray for guidance in your reading. “Keep watch and pray, so you will not give into temptation. For the spirit is willing, but the body is weak!” Matthew 26:41 NLT. Is Obama the Antichrist? Maybe, maybe not. But the information I gleaned from this article and the subsequent comments sure indicate that he very well might be. Hopefully, we will not be here for the 1/1/2017 microchip installation!

    • Thomas


      *First of all, I’m a layperson, not a theologian. I’m a high school graduate who took a couple of courses at San Juan College in Farmington, New Mexico.

      *Second, I have bipolar disorder, so I know for a fact that I’m not anybody special.

      *Third: Thank you for agreeing with me about the Temple, etc.

      *#4: I am referring to page 1573 of the Life Recovery Bible, footnote 13:18b. Yes, it’s true. I am also a recovering drug addict, which indicates further that I am most definitely not anybody special.

      *#5: How can you say that you don’t care what I believe or what happens to me?

      • Skywatcher

        Thomas, your testimony really touched my heart! In fact, it takes much to bring tears to my eyes, little brother, but that’s doing it right now! YOU ARE SOMEBODY SPECIAL! You also have SPECIAL needs to boot! God is able to bear you up on angel’s wings, and to deliver your from the snare of the fowler. He has YOUR name carved into the palm of His hands! He carries you through those dark and down times! He puts the sunshine through your window in the morning, and a bright and beautiful sunset in the evening sky for you to behold and to remember, He is there. He put the birds on the limb outside, to sing you a cheery tune! He puts the light in your eyes, and a song in your heart! He has a huge family, global in size, that would just love to hug you, hold you, and to tell you how SPECIAL YOU ARE! I know I would love to!

        Do not let Satan trick you into believing that you are not special! That’s a HUGE lie, right from a toothless lion, who roams to and fro, seeking whom he may devour, I Peter 5: 8! Well, my brother, you’re NOT his next meal! With Jesus Christ alive within you, Satan is a defeated foe! He’s a dead lion that’s too dumb to fall over and hit the dust! He is TOOTHLESS! His breath stinks; his accusations are false, and Christ is alive in you! He wants to use you to win souls for Him! Souls who need YOUR help are walking right now, where you have already been, and are being delivered from…one day at a time!

        Brother, I was once in your shoes! I thought I was garbage! My father told me as a little boy I was garbage, etc., and that I would never amount to anything! I used to swing from a huge limb on an even bigger maple tree, tears running down my ten year old face, singing, Farther along, we’ll know all about it, Farther along, we’ll understand why! Cheer up, my brother, live in the sunshine, we’ll understand it all by and by. Tempted and tried we’re oft made to wonder Why it should be thus all the day long, While there are others living about us, Never molested tho in the wrong. Faithful till death said our loving Master, A few more days to labor and wait; Toils of the road will then seem as nothing, as we sweep thru the beautiful gate!” Those are quite the words for a little ten year old to have to draw comfort from!

        My father, in drunken stupors and rages used to pound the snot out of my mother and I! While I swung on that swing, I used to wonder if I was adopted, for surely, nobody who were real parents would hate their own child in this way. I even asked my mother if I was adopted, and I wasn’t. I wished I could be… My father had to marry my mother because I was coming along, and in 1958, that was the “honorable thing” to do. Talk about shotgun weddings, she should’ve shot him!

        I’m long past that now, Thomas, but I felt just like you do now! Those feelings are history! God has promised to be the Father to the fatherless, and He was exactly that for me! I thank Him now, for having had that experience, even though it was hellish to go through at the time, but now, I can relate to others who feel unloved, unneeded, and unnecessary.

        My Heavenly Father heard me singing that dear old hymn; He saw the tears rolling down my cheeks, and the horrible thoughts that accompanied them sometimes. He knew, He understood, and He cared! He brought me out of that pit of miry clay, and He set my feet upon the Rock, Christ Jesus to stay! He did it for me and for billions of others, and I know you are just SPECIAL enough for Him to do it for you! Nobody EVER loved me like my Heavenly Father! I’m so glad I received Him into my life when I was just a skinny, snotty-nosed, sliver of a boy! Without Him, I was nothing; without Him, I could do nothing; but let me tell you…I’m his son, who will not back down from anything! I will do all I can to win souls for Him. He gave His life for me, therefore, I will live for Him!

        What man may call trash, Christ calls treasure! YOU, my brother, are one of the jewels in His crown, and don’t you ever forget it! He came to minister to the sick, not the healthy, Mt. 9: 12! He came to heal the broken-hearted! That’s you Thomas! Look it up in Luke 4: 18! Pray for Him to help you with this bi-polar issue; it may take someone who is in the deliverance ministry to get you through that, so pray that God will send you the RIGHT person, who is close to Him, and equipped to do the job!

        In the meantime, continue to read the Word and to talk with Him in prayer, “without ceasing”. Forgive me, Bro, for not giving Scriptural references to all I’m saying here, but it is in the Book!

        Also, YOU take VERY SERIOUSLY EVERY WORD that EDWITNESS told you! He knows God, and the heart of God! I wish I lived near you; I’d be taking you in under my wing and mentoring you in God’s Word, with words of encouragement, coupled with patience and grace. Being bi-polar is not an easy cross to bear; I’ve seen plenty of it in my day, and I oft wonder how those poor dear people function without Christ in their lives. You have Christ! You’re a winner because Christ is THE WINNER! You are in Him, and He is in you! You cannot lose! 🙂

        You said, “I am also a recovering drug addict, which indicates further that I am most definitely not anybody special.”

        To me, that means you are special, because God has to work with you in a more special way than for some of the rest of us on here. Your problem is special to Him because He loves you enough to get old Peter to write the words, “(Thomas), casting all YOUR care upon him; (Jesus) for he careth for you”! (I Peter 5: 7)

        For me, I find it special to take God’s promises and where appropriate, (providing they’re for the Church and not specifically for Israel), and to stick my name in the verse, making it more personal and real! NOW, that is SPECIAL! Try it and see! BE CAREFUL! You don’t want to be sticking your name in the verse where it says, “Judas went out and hanged himself”!

        The key word in your statement is “recovering”! The first step is admitting you have a problem, and the second step is seeking the right help for it. I’ve never had a drug problem, but that doesn’t make me any more “special” in God’s eyes than you are! I had other problems and still fight the flesh! God can never love you anymore now, then He did before you had the problem! Jesus died for YOU, and His love is constant! He never changes! Heb. 13: 8

        If you were not special to God, who saw everything from the beginning to the end, He would not have had the words penned, “Whosoever will may come”! He saw you way back then! YOU ARE SPECIAL, and I love you with the love of the Lord!

        As for people like BK, they’re not the ones you need to be following or listening to; they’ll just bring you down even lower than before! Get yourself into a good strong, solid Bible-believing/practicing Church, make good solid “family connections”, and follow the leading of God’s Holy Spirit, confirmed by His Word!

        We love you, man! Anybody else on here besides Edwitness and I, that can say that? If so, please let Thomas know! This brother needs some encouragement! Come on! This is real ministry, and as Heather and others have said, WE’RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

        God bless you, Thomas! That’s a really special name you have! You don’t mind if I share it with you, do you? 🙂

      • BK

        @ Thomas,

        I wrote a post and before I finished it my computer informed me that “An Error Had Occurred With The Program” and that it would close the program and re-open it.

        [ I’ve had this tech issue lately – I even mention a tech issue in one of my recent posts above. ]

        And then it closed and re-opened the program.

        The post was AUTOMATICALLY POSTED during that time.

        When the [posting] page re-opened my text was gone and I thought it was lost.

        I didn’t know that it had automatically posted.

        I then walked away from the computer.

        The post you refer to was meant to be posted to the GENERAL AUDIENCE – not you specifically.

        When I reply to someone specifically I always put their name at the beginning of the reply …

        Just as I have done with this reply… @ Thomas

        I never finished the post and I NEVER clicked the “post” button.


        Every Bible scholar on the planet will tell you that the KJ HAS BEEN ALTERED !

        If “someone”, “anyone”, believes that the KJ is “without error” then that person is believing a lie!

        And then … they believe the lies that were put in it! – THERE ARE MANY LIES IN IT !

        And you should separate yourself from ANYONE who doesn’t point these lies out to you!

        If you “study” you can discover WHO altered it, and most importantly – WHY !

        If a person “doesn’t care” to study and learn these things, then “I don’t care” if that person doesn’t study (or believe me).

        That’s what I meant –

        I didn’t get a chance to proof-read the post before posting.

        As for your statement:

        “*#5: How can you say that you don’t care what I believe or what happens to me?”

        Think about this …

        If I didn’t care about what you believe or, what happens to you, then I wouldn’t inform you of the lies!

        I inform you of the lies because I do care!

        “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?” – Gal. 4

      • Skywatcher

        Thomas, I need to warn you! There is a very good reason why BK lost his original post to you! Yeah, his computer might have failed, yada yada. There is a very serious battle going on for your soul RIGHT THIS MOMENT!

        I just read BK’s original response to your heart’s cry of many days ago, and he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing! Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith, Heb. 12: 2; Satan is the author of confusion, I Cor. 14: 33. Christ called him the “Father of lies” (Jn. 8: 44), so do not be listening to this guy! He’s under the influence of Satan!

        BK said, “Every Bible scholar on the planet will tell you that the KJ HAS BEEN ALTERED !”

        That’s a mighty serious lie, that this poor man will soon have to stand before God and take accountability for, and the resulting souls that were lost because of such foolish and non-scholarly claims as these!

        Bk said, “THERE ARE MANY LIES IN IT !”

        BK and so many others make bold-faced lies about the KJV being corrupted, etc., but they cannot back them up! It’s easy to say something, but where is the proof of such? Don’t bother asking him to prove this to you; he CAN’T! He’s just trying to sow doubt and confusion into your heart, brother! Pass him by, and put a little bit of I Sam. 25: 22 into the works. Hint: He’s the wall…the word starts with a “p”!

        Thomas, go back and look at how he and other brethren on here have disputed! Ask the Holy Spirit to give you strong guidance! I believe you’re smart enough to see through his lies!

        We, who follow and put our faith in the words of that most Holy Book, know better, because it has NEVER EVER let us down! It is the only Holy written word of God that has the power to change the lives of people for the good, blessing them with confirmation of the Holy Spirit as they go! It is the only Holy Book that has hidden codes in it that can only be found by computers today! They were NOT put in there by any computer thousands of years ago! NO OTHER book has such a unique signature of God upon it!

        Thomas, remember what I shared with you recently! You’ll find more “meat” and encouragement in that than you will from folks like this!

        Satan always comes across, appealing to the senses of mankind, so don’t be fooled by his, “If I didn’t care about what you believe or, what happens to you, then I wouldn’t inform you of the lies!” Satan used the same technique with Eve, in the Garden, and look at the mess we’re in today!

        You read BK well, and that’s why you came back at him as you did in the first place! My dear brother in Christ, do not waste anymore time chatting with this wolf! He’ll take you down, and Christ did not die in your place to lose you, to some not-so-smooth-talking devil!

        Pray, Thomas! Pray for God’s protection like you never have before! I Pe. 5: 8 tells us he’s like a roaming lion, seeking whom he may devour! He wants you for supper tonight! Fight him off with the promises of God! I’m praying for you right now, Bro., as soon as I quit typing!

        To any Christians that are reading this post, NOW is the time to be strongly praying for Thomas! He’s coming under direct attack of the enemy, and he desperately needs our prayers!

    • Edwitness

      Here is how special you are. The God that created everything came down in the form of a man so that He could give His life for you. That when you place your faith and trust in Him you would have eternal life and be with with Him for all eternity. There is nothing that could make anyone more special. That is what God thinks. So who cares what anyone else thinks? Right?
      Believe it. Own it.

      • Thomas

        Thank you, Edwitness, I needed that!

  • Thomas

    Thank you and bless you, Skywatcher! I am also the adult child of an alcoholic. He never hit my mother, but he did hit my older brother. And you can probably guess how my brother treated me. That’s in the past though. We get along great now. The past is to learn from and forget, right? You said, “God bless you, Thomas! That’s a really special name you have! You don’t mind if I share it with you, do you? :)” No, I don’t mind if you share it with me at all. Peace!

    • Skywatcher

      Thomas, I’m glad you were blessed by my comment. You said something that I need to assist you with, if you don’t mind. You said, “The past is to learn from and forget, right?”

      WRONG! Don’t EVER forget the mistakes of the past! That’s why N. America is in such a mess right now! Most of the older people who made the mistakes in the past, and who learned from them are gone now, and the younger ones were either not told of those mistakes, or have forgotten. When we forget the mistakes, we are prone to repeat them!

      Nowhere in God’s Word are we encouraged to forget the mistakes or wrongs that have been done to us in the past. Apostle Paul says, “Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those tings which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before.” Phil. 3: 13

      We know from Paul’s testimony in various places, as he recounts his sufferings for Christ, that he did NOT forget them! No! He used them to continually bring honor, glory, and praise to our Lord! He used them to relate to other believers who were going through their own times of trials and testings. We can do the same. Paul is encouraging the saints NOT TO DWELL on the past! See the difference. To dwell on the past defeats what God is trying to do in our lives…it brings us down! He desires to bring us out and up! 🙂

      You are correct…we ARE to learn from them, and to try to be better people and not propagate those mistakes.

      I have forgotten many of the beatings my alcoholic father put on me, but thank our dear God, I still remember enough of them to remind me that is NOT the way I want to treat my family or others! If I tried to bury those memories in the past, I’m asking for trouble. If I had buried those memories, I would not have stepped forward to encourage you!

      Our God is sooooo good! I’m so glad that you and your older brother “get along great now”! Is he a Christian too?

      God bless you abundantly with His presence, peace, power, love and joy in your life today, and ALWAYS, Thomas! We don’t have much time to labor or to wait! Use it wisely!

    • BK

      @ Thomas,

      I’m also the adult child of an alcoholic.

      My father did hit my mother.

      It was only my mother and myself that he ever put his hands on.

      Except for the unfortunate men that dared cross him.

      He was angry and he was violent … dangerously violent!

      He would hurt you anyway he could… though his personal preference was using a knife on someone.

      He loved to deliver HARDCORE punishment up-close … and personal!

      He almost faced a murder charge one time – but the guy lived.

      He knew how to cut a man deeply without killing him.

      He was a deeply angered man and would ignite in an instant.

      He said things to me as a child that I won’t repeat to this day!

      The knife would have been quicker … and far less painful!

      He would come home drunk and my mother would wake me and we would go outside and hide behind trees, fighting south Fla. mosquitos at 3:00 am, as he raised pure hell looking for us… gun in hand!

      When he did this he would ALWAYS have his gun loaded … and calling my name!

      This stuff will truly upset a young boy’s “emotional” applecart.

      This happened many times.

      We had to wait ’til he passed-out and “all quieted down” before we even dared to approach the house again!

      I wrestled with “the love of my father” for many, many decades.

      My drug addiction lasted for decades too!

      I can relate Thomas …

      I can relate!

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  • Thomas


    Thank you, BK, for straightening me out. Peace to you and yours. Gotta get away from the computer now. Must settle down and relax(“doctor’s” orders). Hope this message goes to the right place:)

    • BK

      @ Thomas,

      For those who love God … there are no “coincidences” or “accidents” in our lives.

      Everything big and small, good AND BAD … happen for a reason !

      "And we know that ALL THINGS work together FOR GOOD to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

      For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son ... ."

      Remember …

      It’s the Master’s chisel … that creates the Master-piece !


      Personally, I’ve never met a strong person with an easy past !

      I pray that YHVH will cause His Face to richly shine upon you !

    • BK

      The Jehovah Witnesses don’t know who the antichrist is or what his mark is because they are under catholic doctrine (lies) but don’t know it!.

      They criticize the catholic church (and rightfully so ! – it’s the RCC that produces the antichrist – pope is false prophet) yet are blinded by the RCC lies that are in their New World Bible.

      If you read the preface to their 1950 NW Bible translation the two CATHOLIC Jesuits who help write their doctrine are named in it.

      The Whore HIDES her Babylonian antichrist!

      Does the KJV contain CATHOLIC lies as well?

      The ROMAN CATHOLIC Erasmus gave us the Textus Receptus.

      See the article Erasmus, His Greek Text and His Theology posted at

      Erasmus was offered the office of CARDINAL !

      The first printed Greek New Testament was the Greek text found in the Complutesian polyglot, printed in Alcala, Spain in 1514 (though printed first, it was not published, i.e., made available for distribution, until 1522, after the publishing of the first two editions of Erasmus’ Greek text). The Complutesian Greek is definitely in the mainstream of textus receptus editions, and was in fact consulted by Erasmus and formed the basis for some of the revisions he made in the later editions of his Greek text (see F. H. A. Scrivener, A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament. Cambridge: Deighton, Bell & Co., 1883. 3rd edition; p. 433).

      Who edited this text? And on what manuscripts was this edition based?

      The editor was CARDINAL ARCHBISHOP Francisco Ximenez de Cisneros (1436-1517) of Spain. For the uninitiated, his titles indicate that he was near the apex (TOP) of the priestly hierarchy of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH in Spain during the very time that the Spanish Inquisition was getting well underway (a brief sketch of his life may be found, among many other sources, in Frank L. Cross, ed., The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church. London: Oxford University Press, 1957; p. 1482).

      Where did he obtain manuscripts?

      At least in part from the Vatican Library in Rome. In the dedication to Pope Leo X of this published work, Cardinal Ximenez stated, “For Greek copies indeed we are indebted to your Holiness, who sent us most kindly from the Apostolic Library very ancient codices, both of the Old and the New Testament; which have aided us very much in this undertaking,” (Bruce M. Metzger, The Text of the New Testament. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1968. 2nd edition; p. 98).

      So the very first in the line of textus receptus editions, and one which influenced virtually ALL later ones, was made at the behest of a CATHOLIC CARDINAL by CATHOLIC scholars using CATHOLIC-owned Greek manuscripts.

      And of course, Erasmus, editor of 5 (FIVE !) Greek New Testament editions (1st-1516; 5th-1534) which set the standard for all the later textus receptus editions of Stephanus, Beza and the Elzevirs, was a lifelong Roman Catholic (which some fundamentalist Baptists in flights of pure self-delusion have recently attempted to deny; see my published article, Erasmus, His Greek Text and His Theology noted above). He was ordained as priest and ultimately offered the office of Cardinal (which he refused). Erasmus left in writing his decided opinion that Matthew 6:13; John 7:53-8:11; and I John 5:7 were not original parts of the NT but later scribal insertions (see my above-mentioned article for documentation), opinions shared in common by Westcott and Hort. It is common knowledge that in several places, Erasmus deliberately ALTERED the text he found in Greek manuscripts and FABRICATED readings based solely on the LATIN VULGATE ! One among several such places is Acts 9:5,6; also the last 6 verses of Revelation were entirely Erasmus’ back translation from Latin into Greek, since his one Greek manuscript completely lacked these verses. Erasmus the Catholic was SOLE EDITOR of his various NT editions; therefore his Greek NTs can honestly and ACCURATELY be called CATHOLIC Greek texts.

      excerpted from:

      Is the King James Version a “Roman Catholic Bible”?

      The UNLEARNED Men:
      The True Genealogy and Genesis of King-James-Version-Onlyism

      King James -a “Man of God”? …


      King James’s sexual orientation was so widely known that Sir Walter Raleigh joked about it in public saying “King Elizabeth” had been succeeded by “Queen James.”

      And then what can be said about what are reportedly the virtually Roman Catholic views of King James I, royal patron of the KJV and the one who imposed the rules on the team of translators? “Roman Catholic views of King James?” you ask incredulously? Yes. Consider the remarks of famous 18th century Anglican pastor and hymn-writer Augustus Toplady (1740-1778), author of “Rock of Ages” and other hymns. Toplady tells us that James I made “enormous concessions to the Church of Rome.”

      “It has ever been my way, said James, to go with the Church of Rome, usque ad aras [Latin, literally, “to the very altars,” i.e., to the last extremity]: i.e., to symbolize with the Church in matters of DOCTRINE, discipline and WORSHIP, as far as prudence would permit and policy might require. Indeed, the papal supremacy over kings themselves, and the lawfulness of king killing seem to have been the only Popish doctrines which he considered indigestible.”

      (August Toplady, The Works of Augustus Toplady. London: J. Chidley, 1837, p. 247). Was there any similar Romish patronage of the NIV or NASB or NKJB? I trow not.

      This is only the tip of the iceberg!

      • BK

        The post starting :

        “Read all … there’s an e-mail address at the bottom.”

        Was meant for Thomas.

        I forgot to add his name at the beginning.

  • Thomas


    Just letting you know I received and read your message. Thanks for everything. It’s too bad there’s some confusion here. I’m not going into details because I’m not well right now and must step away from the ol’ computer. Peace!

    • Skywatcher

      Thomas, know that you’re in my daily prayer time. Be well, my brother, and keep your eyes in the Word, and ON the Word! He will NEVER fail you! Rest well, in the fact that you have God’s divinely inspired Word, and it is your road map home to Heaven! Blessings!

  • Andrew

    I seriously don’t understand why we as Christians are so concerned about what is happening politically in the world today. Our eyes should be set on Jesus Christ and the New Jerusalem with our main mandate being the spreading of the saving message of the Gospel to do our best at bringig the lost back to the saving grace and love of God.

    Whether the antichrist comes today or tomorrow should not scare us in the least bit. We should be ready to take our stand boldly as followers of Jesus Christ as the Bible clearly tells us to expect persecution. The question that you should ask yourself is ” Do I fully depend on the saving Grace and Love of Jesus Christ to the point where I am willing to DIE for my faith when it comes to it?”

    History has proven that the message of the Gospel will always be met with great retaliation with early believers being fed to lions, crucified, cut in half, and burned alive as human candles among other man made death mechanisms used to try to silence the message that saves. They endured it and it is thanks to them that we, right now, are Christians. They spread the Gospel diligently.

    Do your part. Spread the Gospel. It is your DUTY. We are not requested to spread the message of the Gospel. Jesus COMMANDED us to spread the message of the Gospel that saves the lost and sets the captives free.

    Turn away from your sin and follow Jesus Christ. Eternal life is your ultimate reward. God bless you all.

  • Skywatcher

    Brother Andrew, that was very well stated! Everything you said was true. However, please allow me to answer your rhetorical observation, “I seriously don’t understand why we as Christians are so concerned about what is happening politically in the world today.”

    It’s because we are still in the world! We’re getting restless, excited, tired of the same old corruption, only increased by myriads of degrees! We have so much to look forward to in Heaven, and I guess us inmates here, just wish Jesus would hurry up and get it over with. Yes, it’s a bit selfish on our part perhaps, but some of us have been waiting for over 50 years, and we’ve seen our continent in the best of times, and it’s very disheartening to see it go to the dogs, even though we know it is part of the Master’s plan.

    We’re getting impatient and yes, concerned because many of us have children and grandchildren, who will never know life as we once knew it! That’s a very seriously concerning prospect.

    Yes, we must always keep our eyes upon Jesus, but we MUST NOT neglect to do our part along the way. If our parents and grandparents, and their generations had done their part to guard their minds against liberalism, humanism, etc., we wouldn’t be having this conversation, and life would be so much better!

    Thank you, for your excellent input! It was like a gentle breeze of summer, cooling off the heat of vernacular!

    • Larry / vietnamvet1971

      Skywatcher & Andrew thanks for a breath of air and I agree skywatcher I feel the same way I guess we all are getting anxious to leave and tired of watching all the Evil in the World and especially in our country America and it seems there is nothing we can do but watch the EVIL, Wickedness of Evil Men seem to prevail. I shake my head at all the Good being called Evil, and all the Evil being called good.

      But as Isiah says WOE unto those that do these things for I would hate to be on the WOE side of GOD when he lets loose His Wrath.

      Maranatha………..Our LORD Come Quickly.

  • char

    @Timbo, you’re so off track, you’re out in left field with this comment:

    If I may comment…there is no THE Antichrist. Antichrist is a character type, not a specific individual, or personage.

    There most certainly is an Antichrist coming to the scene very shortly and talking like this, you just might have the pleasure? to meet him.

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  • char

    Yes, Ron, thank you for this site. I’m reading ALL 101 facts. God Bless!

  • He could easily be named king of the UN…However, the rapture theory (which was never taught until some woman had a vision in the late 1800’s and Darby/Scofield jumped all over it) is not necessarily going to happen… In all accounts of the end times (Matthew, Luke, Revelations) Jesus returns AFTER all is complete… 2 returns? not there… and if so, why didnt Jesus when asked of his return mention 2 comings?

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    I come from a long line of 33rd degree Freemasons. My grandfather past it down to my father the oldest son and it was to be past down to me the oldest son. I rejected it at a young age. I was born on Nov. Friday the 13th 1953. nine months earlier was Feb.Friday the 13th the day I was conceived. The number 13 has followed me every day of my life in many strange ways. I have seen things that are not of this world. When a close relative died it was my duty to go to the cemetary office to direct the burial plot in the familys section of the cemetary. The book was opened and in big block letters was Masonic Block 13. I knew I had found the source of evil and I was almost killed in an auto accident on the way home. A large number 13 was painted on the roadway in front of my house when I got home. A few years before this happened I was showing a vintage motorcycle at a VA bike show. I parked my bike amongst 40 or 50 motorcycles and went to get something to eat. My wife came to me with an upset look on her face (she knows what I go thru) and said that a number 13 was placed on my bike. My brother and father came by the show and my father did not look well. He was dead in 2 weeks. I am a Christian man but a rebel in my youth. I wrote earlier that I have seen things that are not of this world. This topic of Obama is something that I have been tormented by for over 8 years. I know who he is. In the spring of 08 I was awakened in a cold sweat, my body drenched, I had to get up and take a shower and could not go back to sleep. The day before Obama ( I am not political and knew nothing of him) came to a small town near me to give a stump speech. I very seldom dream anymore and what hit me that night was far more than a dream–it was technicolor and I felt as if I was there in real life. I had climbed on top of a clock tower in the town that Obama was speaking and Obama was on a podium down the street several block away with a large adoring crowd surrounding him. I zeroed my Winchester rifle on target and blew Obamas head clean off. Instantly I felt being pulled down from the tower and a multitude of people were dragging me down the street , beating and kicking me. I woke up in heavy cold sweat. The next day I studied everything I could fine on this guy and was horrified. Obama a 32nd degree mason was just the tip of the iceburg. The winning lotto numbers for Illinois (Sen. Obama’s state) the day after he won the President nomination–666-777-9. The numbers are real–this man is real–be prepared for hell on earth in the near future.

  • Looking Up

    I agree with Geoffrey Grider! Repent everyone! Jesus is coming SOON!

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