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Laodicean Christian Sellout Amy Grant Glories In Her LGBT Fan Base

During her first gay press interview, the Grammy winner reflected on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, and her “compassion” for gay marriage.

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You know what’s so interesting, even when I was discovering my own sexuality and meeting people that had a different experience, I didn’t categorize then, and I don’t categorize right now.

Amy Grant loves receiving adoration, praise and financial reward from the lost and dying who attend her shows. She states that “it’s a honor” to perform at gay weddings. And never once does she open her mouth to tell her lost fans that without Jesus Christ they are on their way to Hell. This interview here, her first ever to the gay press, was an excellent opportunity to tell them about salvation in Jesus. She never mentions the Lord’s name one time. I wonder how that will play out at the Judgment Seat of Christ?

“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” 1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV)

PrideSource – During her first gay press interview, and for an entire hour, the Grammy winner reflected – with her usual sincerity and thoughtfulness – on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, her “compassion” for gay marriage and the unforgettable dinner she shared with out ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero.

When the biggest Christian music artist of all time is doing gay press, you know we’ve come a long way. Were you kept at bay from gay press beforehand, earlier in your career?

It never came up.

But you have obviously had a big gay following for quite sometime. Why have gay people connected to you in such profound ways?

All of us sometimes feel disenfranchised or, for whatever reason, like we’re just on the periphery or marginalized. People feel that for all kinds of reasons, and by the time you’ve lived any amount of life, I think anybody has had that experience somewhere. I remember doing concerts back in the early ’80s and going shopping with some of the singers that I was working with and one of them, Donna McElroy, had to get some makeup – and she’s African-American – and I said, “Hey, I’ll meet you back here.” I ran my errands and I came back and said, “Are you done?” She said, “No one’s waited on me.”

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Christian singer Amy Grant happily receives the praise, adoration and financial benefits of her LGBT fan base, but she doesn’t have the guts to tell them that they are lost and headed to a Devil’s Hell.

Everybody is outside of some circle, but what I’ve always wanted to do is have a message of honesty and welcoming, and being willing to say this is the good, bad and the ugly. This is who I am. And if I’m saying that about myself, it’s like, jump in, the water’s fine. So I love that. I love that people connect to my music.

At this point in your career, are you at all concerned about people passing judgment on you for talking to gay press?

We all ultimately need to know that we’re loved, and I think it would be really crazy if you said, “I’m not going to talk to this group of people because someone’s looking on that’s not a part of the conversation and might have an opinion about it.” I mean, my whole life has been that. (Laughs) It takes all of our energy to navigate whatever road we’re on. What’s interesting is, this last year I was invited on Monday mornings to go to a woman’s house – also a songwriter, also a singer – and just have some time of quiet stillness all together. But her house wasn’t even quiet. There were workers there sometimes, or there was nowhere to get that was quiet.

As we were sitting there trying to get quiet, she said, “It never gets still, and so I’m not gonna get all rankled in my head. I’m just gonna say, ‘Well, there’s the noise of the person next door blowing off their driveway with that really load motor. There it is. There’s the sound of sirens going up and down the street.'” She said, “When we learn to observe without judgment, then we have the ability to observe and learn, or to observe and be.” And I said, “Do you know how exhausting it is to observe with judgment all the time? It’s just exhausting.” I have thanked her many times. We could all stand to hear that.

You came from a fairly strict religious upbringing, but it sounds like there’s been an evolution in the way you see people.

Well, I don’t know. When you say strict, that’s interesting. What do you mean by that? (Laughs) I mean, we went to church every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night.

You’re right. I should say diligently religious.

Yeah. I remember when we moved to Texas and my parents went to this really, I guess, conservative church – a Church of Christ – and something incredible was happening within that church community. I remember seeing this transformation in my mom and dad. I was old enough to remember that. What I remember about our home after that was that it was welcoming … to everybody.

To black people? To gay people?

Just to people.

Did you ever feel that you had to reconcile your Christian faith with your acceptance of homosexuality?

That’s not my life experience. In the same way, if you put my shoes on, you would go, “I thought this experience was going to be one way and it was totally different.” None of us has any idea what somebody’s life experience is like.

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Do you remember the first gay person you knew? Did you have a close gay friend?

Absolutely. But my first: maybe college. Someone might have just seemed theatrical or, I don’t know, effeminate, but when I was in high school – I graduated in ’78 – I had friends in high school who eventually said, “I’m living a gay lifestyle,” but they didn’t say it then. People were very private about their sexuality, period. Maybe not everywhere, but I just don’t remember, “I’m exploring this, I’m exploring that.”

When did you first know you had a gay fan base?

Probably by the time I was 18.

How did you know? Did a fan tell you his or her coming-out story?

No. Just from meeting people. I don’t know. I guess I’m kind of going, that was a long time ago. I’m 52. (Laughs) I’ve never even thought about it. It’s like saying, “There’s gray-haired people in the crowd, too.” If people come to my shows, this is what they say: “Wow, there are people of all ages and lifestyles in your crowd.” That’s what they always say. But then someone will come up and say, “You know, I saw a guy with a boa on,” and I’ll say, “Oh yeah, yeah, I’ve always had a big gay following.” (Laughs)

To me, I don’t give it a second thought. I remember the first time someone from the crew said, “I smell pot in the back of the crowd,” and I went, “Well, fantastic! Yay!” I’m so glad that just “people” are coming.

From photos I’ve seen and conversations I’ve heard, you seem to have established some close relationships with people in the Gay Friends of Amy Grant group on Facebook over the years. Can you describe your relationship with them?

When you’ve done something for a long time, there is a great familiarity that comes over the years. I will say that I have a couple of friends that I made – just because they came to shows for a long time – and I figure we must have some things in common because, of all the music we’re all attracted to, at least we share this music in common.

Weren’t you invited to perform at the wedding of one of your gay fans but couldn’t due to your schedule?

I was invited. I was honored to be invited. I have to tell you: Anytime somebody asks me to perform at a wedding, I say, “I do not have a good track record.” (Laughs) A lot of the weddings I’ve performed at, the marriages have ended poorly.

I recall seeing you perform with Melissa Etheridge for Lifetime’s “Women Rock!” special in 2000 and thinking, as a teenager struggling with his sexuality, “She’s performing with an openly lesbian performer; she’s throwing her gay fans a bone.”

You know what’s so interesting, even when I was discovering my own sexuality and meeting people that had a different experience, I didn’t categorize then, and I don’t categorize right now. It makes me realize that I don’t have any idea of what it would feel like every moment of my life to go somewhere and feel judged.

But you have felt judged, right? Judged for getting divorced. Judged for your pop crossover, even.

No, no. Do people from a distance have an opinion? Yeah, that’s human nature to have an opinion. Whatever was going on in a rag magazine, or whatever someone was saying behind my back or in a heated conversation, I was never in that circle. I wasn’t part of that conversation. I never, ever pursued one chat room. If there was an article or some argument – “I can’t believe you’re doing this” – I just never pursued it because I thought, “We don’t understand each other.”

There are a lot of times that I wind up in situations that I do not see eye to eye with somebody. And it doesn’t help to throw gas on the fire. Clearly they’re going to have their opinion. Carry on. And I’m gonna go do what I’m gonna go do.

I know you are not a political person.

Yeah, I’m not.

So how do you respond to people when they ask you about your feelings on gay marriage?

In the same way that I did not tell one person who I voted for. I don’t. I never talk about anything like that. I did tell Vince (Gill, her husband) the day after the election. (Laughs)

But I think my response is, I have had so many occasions in my life where I have felt really strongly about something – but that feeling has changed. Those feelings change about different situations, and so because I’m a public person – and because I want always to bring people together – I really do say this is a world that’s unfamiliar to me and I am always trying to observe with compassion.

This isn’t a cut-and-dry issue for you, then.

Well, nothing is cut-and-dry. You know, one of the most fascinating dinners I’ve ever spent sitting next to somebody I had not met was at a large function with my family. We were all seated with place cards; it was a large group and I introduced myself to the fellow next to me. It was Anthony Romero (executive director of the ACLU). I mean, we didn’t line up our views; I just said, “Oh my goodness.” And he said, “I think they probably thought this was going to be very funny having us sit next to each other.” (Laughs)

I just said, “Tell me about your life.” He asked me the same thing. He told me good things about his job and hard things about his job. It was two human beings that have had very different lifestyles sitting next to each other and sharing life. Given 10 choices, would Anthony and I choose the same things? Maybe so. Maybe not. But I felt so changed by that. And what I really felt was, well … I … (pauses)

What did you feel?

Well, I kept his card for a long time, and I hoped that our paths would cross again. I felt a lot of compassion for his parents, first-generation immigrants, and he described his childhood and what it was like. I went, “This makes total sense that he has invested his life coming to the aid of the people in his world that are disenfranchised because, for a whole different set of reasons, his parents were marginalized.”

And you found that inspiring?

Yes. You know what, we all face challenges in our life that we didn’t anticipate, and the most important thing is that we not face them alone. To me, if there’s anything that comes out of this conversation, in the same way that a relationship cannot be nurturing if it’s competitive, it’s this: When you don’t understand something, you can either default to judgment or you can default to compassion. Those take you down completely different roads.

Are you speaking about yourself?

Yeah, and that’s really … ahh, I’m just talking about life in general. This is interesting because I have never done an interview where it feels every question is saying, “Tell me I’m OK.” That’s what feels like the underlying energy behind the questions, and I’m just going, “That’s a powerful kind of energy” – and for different reasons. Maybe not sexuality. Because that’s what every person’s crying out for. Anyway, sometimes a good night’s sleep helps for more concise answers.

It’s just that we’re living lives that are different from each other. It’s like two people sitting at a dinner table having a long conversation. If you and I were facing each other at a different table and we walked away and somebody asked us to describe where we were, my entire view was behind your head. I mean, I’m gonna describe the place differently than you. That’s just true about all of life and really, I’m trying to listen and learn and in a way have a great opportunity to try to understand the fan base that comes to a show. I’m even more glad they feel welcome. Even more glad after this. Can I say one thing?

Of course.

I know that the religious community has not been very welcoming, but I just want to stress that the journey of faith brings us into community, but it’s really about one relationship. The journey of faith is just being willing and open to have a relationship with God. And everybody is welcome. Everybody. source – PrideSource

 

 

 

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NTEB PROPHECY NEWS PODCAST: Join Us For A ‘Special Edition’ Episode About The Regional War Exploding In The Middle East And The Civil War Brewing In America

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On one hand, we have the nascent blistering conflict between Israel and Iran over nuclear ambitions, and on the other a long-festering civil war in America

Israel launched blistering attacks on the heart of Iran’s nuclear and military structure Friday, deploying warplanes and drones previously smuggled into the country to assault key facilities and kill top generals and scientists — a barrage it said was necessary before its adversary got any closer to building an atomic weapon. Iran retaliated late Friday by unleashing scores of ballistic missiles on Israel, where explosions flared in the skies over Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and shook the buildings below. The game is afoot, so you better watch your step.

“For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.” Matthew 24:7,8 (KJB)

On this Special Edition episode of the Prophecy News Podcast, we bring you the very latest information on the military conflict between Israel and Iran that began in earnest on Friday, and escalates by the hour. Israel planned this attack for the past 25 years, and now it’s begun. Over in America, the long-simmering civil tensions being stoked by both sides threaten to come to a boil on Saturday, June 14th, in something called the ‘No Kings Nationwide Day Of Civil Disobedience’, funded of course by George and Alex Soros. Donald Trump for his part is more than willing to bring the power of the US military to turn back the tide of anarchy, but is that a stunning overreach or the right reaction? And just for fun, the Bilderberg Group is holding their annual meeting to plot the fate of the world. If you’re waiting for the end times to start, you’re already late. Come join us for this very Special Edition of the Prophecy News Podcast!

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Now It’s Iran’s Turn As Hundreds Of Missiles And Drones Rain Down On Tel Aviv With Some Evading Iron Dome And Inflicting Terror On Jewish Civilians

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The IDF warned Friday evening that Israel is set to come under what could be a massive Iranian missile and drone attack after Israel conducts strikes against Iran’s nuclear and military facilities and personnel.

The majority of the missiles sent by Iran on Friday were either intercepted by Iron Dome or missed their desired targets, as most analysts figured would happen. But in that mix of falling rockets, about a half dozen got through and lit up portions of Tel Aviv pretty good. Upwards of 63 Israelis were wounded to various degrees in the action. American THAAD systems joined forces with Iron Dome to defend, asking some to wonder if the United States is about to get dragged into a Middle East regional war. And why are Russia and China so quiet right now? That’s the memo.

“From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?” James 4:1 (KJB)

In typical Iranian style, the conflict was quickly shifted to directly attacking civilians instead of going after Israeli military targets. Iran and their proxies in Lebanon, Yemen and Gaza love to conduct operations standing behind children, launching attacks from active hospitals. Israel is either going to do to one of two things now. Either they will accomplished their stated goal of preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, or they will exchange fire with Iran and call it quits like they did in 2024. But getting rid of those nuclear reactors is a big, big job, and it won’t be accomplished in days, weeks or even a few months. War is on deck, and maybe in more than just the Middle East.

Iranian attack toll rises: At least 44 injured, two in critical condition

FROM YNET NEWS: Magen David Adom Director Eli Bin reported on Friday, shortly after the Iranian missile attack on Israel that at least 44 people were injured, with two in critical condition, while the others suffered minor to moderate wounds due to shrapnel. All were evacuated to various hospitals in central Israel for treatment.

An Israeli security source said late Friday, amid Iran’s ongoing retaliatory attack against the country, that the U.S. is actively taking part in intercepting the Iranian munitions. Five to seven Iranian missiles landed in the Tel Aviv area late Friday as Iran began its retaliatory attack against Israel, sending dozens of ballistic missiles. Tehran sent over 100 ballistic missiles against the country as the IDF reported a third missile volley is expected to arrive in the region soon.

The IDF Spokesperson’s Unit late Friday warned for a second time Israel was coming under and Iranian attack. “The IDF identified missiles launched from Iran toward the territory of the State of Israel. Defense systems are operating to intercept the threat. The public is instructed to enter a protected space and remain there until further notice.”

The IDF said on Friday evening that the Air Force completed strikes on Iran’s nuclear facility in the area of Isfahan. “The site conducts a ‘reconversion’ process of enriched uranium. This is the next stage after uranium enrichment in the nuclear weapons production process.

“The strike destroyed a facility for metallic uranium production, infrastructure for enriched uranium conversion, laboratories and additional infrastructure,” Spokesperson Brig. Gen Ephraim Dafrin said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to speak on Friday with U.S. President Donald Trump as the Israeli Air Force continues strikes in Iran entering their 12th hour, including attacks in Iran’s western Hamadan province. Netanyahu has called a security briefing for 6:30 p.m. local time to evaluate the strike campaign in Iran, dubbed Operation Rising Lion. He will be joined by Defense Minister Israel Katz, Mossad Director David Barnea, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir and other senior security officials. READ MORE

Missiles rain down on Tel Aviv as Iran fires back

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Iran Vows A Fiery Response To Overnight Airstrikes On Nuclear Facilities As Israel Says There Is Much More Action Coming Over The Next Few Days

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Israel renewed airstrikes against Iran early Friday morning as the Natanz Nuclear Plant appeared to be in ruins, no word on strike against Fordow and Isfahan.

For the past 16 years, NTEB has written countless number of articles speculating on what it would look like when the day finally came for Israel to strike on the nuclear facilities in Iran. Last night, the whole world watched it happen, and the response to it on social media was quite predictable. The enemies of Israel were kind enough to remind us who and where they are, and that will be useful information in the days ahead. Israel’s official state plane, the ‘Wings Of Zion’, has left Israeli airspace presumably with Prime Minister Netanyahu onboard. That’s the memo.

“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Genesis 12:3 (KJB)

Of course, last night as impressive as it was, is simply the opening round of what promises to be a protracted fight. Israel is seeking to eliminate Iran’s nuclear capability, but it is a slippery slope into all out war. No word as of yet from Russia and China, both of whom have a signed mutual defense pact with Iran. We shall soon see if it’s worth the paper it’s printed on. Keep in mind, Israel’s attack on Iran last night is just one of the many things we will be discussing on a special Prophecy News Podcast ’emergency broadcast’ starting Saturday at Noon EST. See YOU there!

Iran vows ‘painful fate’ for Israel, fires 100 drones in 1st response to attack; IAF downs them

FROM THE TIMES OF ISRAEL: Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned Israel on Friday it faced a “bitter and painful” fate in response to the attack launched overnight against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program, as Tehran launched 100 drones toward Israel in its initial response.

Israel alerted its citizens on Friday morning that Iran had launched more than 100 drones — which would take several hours to arrive — telling people nationwide to remain near bomb shelters. Three hours later, the IDF Home Front Command lifted its instruction to Israelis to remain near shelters without a single siren sounding in the country, after it worked to shoot them down outside Israeli territory.

The IDF said late Friday morning that it had “control over the situation,” though it did not yet confirm shooting all of the drones down. Restrictions remained in effect for schools and workplaces in addition to public gatherings or events.

Israel “opened its wicked and blood-stained hand to a crime in our beloved country, revealing its malicious nature more than ever by striking residential centers,” Khamenei said Friday, in a statement carried by the state-run IRNA news agency.

The comments came after Israel launched a deadly wave of attacks that killed the Iranian armed forces’ chief of staff, the head of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and top nuclear scientists.

“With this crime, the Zionist regime has set itself up for a bitter and painful fate and it will definitely receive it,” Khamenei said. READ MORE

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