The Bible Believers Guide To Understanding Heresies, Cults And Biblical Christianity

We live in a day and age where Christians seemed absolutely unable to tell the difference between heretical teachings, false cults and what true Biblical Christianity is all about. People will tell you that it is "unloving and judgmental" to point out the errors with groups like Mormons, Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists and Charismatics. But what elements does the Bible say comprises Biblical Christianity, and what warnings did the apostles Paul and John leave for us in these last days?

The Apostle Paul warned us that in the end, Christianity would be hopelessly confused and divided. It certainly is that.

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.” 1 Timothy 4:1-5 (KJV)

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We live in a day and age where Christians seemed absolutely unable to tell the difference between heretical teachings, false cults and what true Biblical Christianity is all about. People will tell you that it is “unloving and judgmental” to point out the errors with groups like Mormons, Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists and Charismatics. But what elements does the Bible say comprises Biblical Christianity, and what warnings did the apostles Paul and John leave for us in these last days?

On this episode of Rightly Dividing, we hold up the mainstream members of what are commonly referred to as Christianity, and see how each of them stack up against the clear, doctrinal teachings of the Holy Bible.

Join us tonight for a two hour Bible study where we take your questions live in a chat room and answer them on-air!

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NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • David Boles

    I have found this “Christianity and the Cults” information from Rose Publishing very useful and have sent it around for decades. See below.

    Even though Seventh Day Adventists are followers of these tenets and are not a true cult (which changes the definitions of these Orthodox Christian tents), they do place too much emphasis on the Old Testament Laws and works.

    Here is a statement I made about Mormonism:

    Mormonism is a man-made organization that makes itself look like a religion by mimicking Christianity. Mormonism adopts Christian names and Christian terminology (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, salvation, resurrection, etc.) but changes the historical, orthodox, Christian Biblical definitions in order to conform to its own man-centered “theology”. For example, the Mormon “God”, Elohim, was once a sinful man, with parents, later exalted to godhood by a council of gods, given a planet near a fictitious star called “Kolob”, making spirit babies with his heavenly wives to be born as Mormon children on this earth. Elohim still has the physical body he had before his god-exaltation and therefore cannot be omnipresent. Mormon men can eventually become “gods” with their own universe. Please read chapter 6 of Dr. Walter Martin’s book The Kingdom of the Cults on Mormonism. There is so much the world and members of the Mormon church do not know about this cult!

    The Tenets of Orthodox Christianity:

    Key person or founder
    Jesus Christ. Founded about AD 30-33, in the Judean province of Palestine
    (Israel today), under the Roman Empire.

    Key Writings
    The Bible, written originally in Hebrew and Aramaic (Old Testament), and
    Greek (New Testament).

    Who is God?
    The one God is Triune (one God in three Persons, not three gods); being
    Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Often the title “God” designates the first
    Person, God the Father. God is a spiritual being without a physical body.
    He is personal and involved with people. He created the universe out of
    nothing. He is eternal, changeless, holy, loving and perfect.

    Who is Jesus?
    Jesus is the second Person of the Trinity. As God the Son, He has always
    existed and was never created. He is fully God and fully man (the two
    natures joined, not mixed). As the second Person of the Trinity, He is
    coequal with God the Father and the Holy Spirit. In becoming man, He was
    begotten through the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. Jesus is the
    only way to the Father, salvation, and eternal life. He was killed on a
    cross according to God’s plan, as a full sacrifice and payment for our sins.
    He rose from the dead three days later (on the third day), spiritually and physically
    immortal. For the next 40 days he was seen by more than 500 eyewitnesses.
    His wounds were touched and he ate meals. He physically ascended to Heaven.
    Jesus will come again visibly and physically at the end of the world to
    establish God’s kingdom.

    Who is the Holy Spirit?
    The Holy Spirit is God, the third Person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is
    a person, not a force or energy field. He comforts, grieves, reproves,
    convicts, guides, teaches, and fills Christians. He is not the Father, nor
    the Son, Jesus Christ.

    How to be Saved
    Saved by God’s grace, not by an individual’s good works. Salvation must be
    received by faith. People must believe in their heart that Jesus died for
    their sins and physically rose again, which is the assurance of forgiveness
    and resurrection of the body. This is God’s loving plan to forgive sinful
    people. Those who are truly saved have the Holy Spirit dwelling within
    them, leading them to do good works.

    What Happens After Death?
    Believers go to be with Jesus. After death all people await the final
    judgment. Both saved and lost people will be resurrected. Those who are
    saved live with Jesus in Heaven. Those who are lost suffer the torment of
    eternal separation from God (Hell). Jesus’ bodily resurrection guarantees
    believers that they, too, will receive new immortal bodies.

    Other Beliefs or Practices
    Group worship, usually in churches. No secret rites. Baptism and Lord’s
    Supper (Communion). Active voluntary missionary efforts. Aid to those in
    need. Jesus said His followers would be known for their love for one

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    • Lee

      I am a Born again Believer. I have a question regarding Seventh Day aventist. You say they are living according to the old Tedtement. My question…the Ten Commandments are the Old Testement. Are you saying the Ten Commandments changed??? I am troubled by the change CATHOLIC church made to Sunday. Why? A sign of they know better than God? I am not an Adventist.. Just need an answer.

      • the church tells us that rightly divides the word of God ,but they rightly divide according to their idea not how the way God wants . at Acts.28:28 the Jews rejected their Messiah and the Kingdom. Paul told them that he was taking ” salvation ” to the Gentiles ,he did not say he was taking the new covenant to the gentiles .the new covenant is no where given to the gentiles ,God made it very clear in Jeremiah.31:31-34 that the new covenant would be given to the house Israel and house Judah. Jesus told the disciples He was brining the new covenant and the Kingdom to the Jews !!! when they rejected Him and the Kingdom they were put in abeyance until the millennium . if God gave the new covenant to the Gentiles , what would He do at the millennium ? would he than take it away from the Gentiles to keep His promise to the Jews ,and give it to them ? NO !! also the church tells the Gentiles they are married to the lamb of God .but the church also tells the Gentiles they are the body of Christ . so what are the Gentiles ? the bride or the body, they can’t be both … the bride of the lamb is described in Revelation capt..21 as the new Jerusalem !! that is only two places the church contradicts itself …there is also the fact that Paul wrote fourteen letters. seven chronologically before Acts.28:28to the Jews and seven chronologically after the Gentiles.. when they are mixed brings WRONG division and confusion … what the church teaches is called replacement theology ,a heresy from Catholicism !! I was in that mess for 20 years trying to make sense of it. but 25 years ago my wife and I left , I found a ” companion” bible with Heb/Grk to English notes on every page, with 198 appendixes,, by E.W.Bullinger 1837 thd. he goes into detail ,about right division ,there are also people that have continued his work ,here and in England where he lived I recommend you first read ” address on the envelope ” @ if you cant find it I will send it to you .please tell me if what I have written has helped you !!

      • I noticed my email addy was not correct it’s

  • Andrew

    Eph 2:8-9
    John 3:16-18
    John 15:16

    Yes, or no. Nothing up my sleeve.

    • Elaine

      Yes, and thank you.

  • tim

    I see Geoffrey Grider has listed Catholicism in his list of cults.

    Here is what Kenneth R. Samples from the Christian Research Institute says:

    “Roman Catholicism is not a cult. The classification of Catholicism as given above is much more accurate and preferable to the overly simplistic and misguided classification of Catholicism as a non-Christian cult.”

    See this at

    I wonder if tonights ‘show’ will prove him wrong…

    • Catholicism is a wicked, pagan religion that steals money, allows the abuse of women and children, and does everything it can to hide God and his word from individuals…lest they learn of the free gift of grace and allow Jesus Christ to save their souls.

      • tim

        Here is the free gift of grace explained in the CCC…

        “Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life.” CCC 1996

        • carson

          alot of people have scriptures framed and hung on the wall..and do very much otherwise. Anyone can have something written somewhere, or read straight from the bible, and close the bible and do otherwise..

          to have something written somewhere but then go out and tell those who reject Christ that they are somehow worshiping the same Father even though none can come to the Father but by Christ shows that the RCC is sporting ‘another Christ’, despite what they have written on some paper somewhere. To tell the lost without Christ that they are somehow ‘children of God’, harms them misleads them horribly and again shows the RCC sports a different Christ Jesus and different gospel.

      • tim

        “Does everything it can to hide God and his word from individuals”???

        From the CCC…

        “The Church “forcefully and specifically exhorts all the Christian faithful. . . to learn the surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ, by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures. Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.” CCC 133

        • Sola scriptura

          There statements contradict what they do in practice. Joel Osteen has a great mission statement yet he never preaches sin and repentance.
          The Catholic Church murdered those who first translated the Bible in English – and discourages personal bible reading. Salvation comes only thru the church and only thru the sacraments. They pray to saints and especially to Mary aka Semiramis. The pope says all religions save, a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous, and that all we have to do is obey our consciences.

          The Catholic Church is full of pagan symbols – Baal/Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz are secretly honored. Priests are prevented from marrying and frequently end up raping kids or nuns. It is a wicked and pagan system, and it is not hard to see. The cry social justice as they hold many billions of assets. I could go on and on and on….

      • tim


        “Pope Francis blasts ‘pagan’ Christians as ‘enemies of the cross'”

        • An article I wrote comparing quotes from Pope Francis to the Word of God:

          • Mary Baynes

            Thank you for your insightful links. Giving up Catholicism (cradle to getting closer to grave and my mind is not schoolgirl sharp anymore) was hardest because of letting Mary go. Your links reconfirmed for me Why I had to Run and not turn back to my comfort zone! I am all new to this and haven’t gotten through the entire Bible yet (1yr) still Church shopping too! The mega ones I steer clear of and have found many others are just lukewarm and are Yawners! Any recommendations? Thank you and God bless!

        • Sola scriptura

          You judge foolishly – on appearance. We are told by Jesus in John 7:24 to go deeper…to judge rightly. Did you not read the examples I gave or Gerri’s links? The pope gives with one hand and takes away with the other. He, like Satan, brilliantly weaves good and evil, light and darkness, together so that they are indistinguishable. But God is light and in him is no darkness at all. Rome is the heir of Bsbylon and the home of all satanic religions and practices. The Jesuits reign unhindered by any government or any man. That is why American politics is such a silly lie…as if an independent person, not wholly owned by Rome, whether they know where the road ends or not, could ever control any government or major corporation. Never. Ever. Power, wealth, fame and sex are satan’s currency – and he is glad to spread it around…but at a very high price.

      • tim

        Mary article link? Thanks, but here is the deal about Mary.

        No knowledgeable Catholic worships Mary. It is forbidden in the Catechism as the worship due to God is absolutely forbidden for anything or anyone else.

        Every knowledgeable Catholic knows this; that Christ is like the pearl of great value, the field with the greatest treasure. In Jesus’ parables, these were worth the selling of everything and giving of everything that one owns and is. For this reason –the intrinsic value of these things were seen as greater than anything else.

        Catholics know that only God has this greatest intrinsic value – God as expressed in the three persons of the Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

        Catholics are taught and know that Mary does not possess this intrinsic value. Without Christ, she is nothing. We know this. Therefore, any value place on or veneration of Mary is solely due to the value of her son, the Lord Jesus Christ. And we know and worship Christ as the one of most high intrinsic value above all else. And that is true worship (worthship), worship of one God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

        • Another article I wrote on the Catholic Church and the Bible – this specifically speaks to “Mary worship”

          • tim


            I read your article. You are a good writer, but you reveal that you fall into the same trap as many, many have. You have taken secondary information on Catholic beliefs to come to a conclusion.

            If a woman trying to convert you made too much of Mary, then that is not good. But you cannot conclude that Catholism is a cult from this.

            If you have seen nice looking Catholic churches and this did not set well with you, OK. But this does not mean that Catholism is a cult.

            You reveal in your article that you do not know the RCC teaching on the saints, salvation and about knowing scripture.

            My suggestion to you is, if you to keep asserting that Catholism is a cult, then read the Catechism of the Catholic Church for yourself so that you can accurately expound of the Catholic position. You can read it online at the Vatican website.

        • Tusitala

          Once again we have the “veneration” ploy. When one makes statues, bows to them, kneels to them, spends hours in vain and repetitious prayer, begs a dead person for mediation that belongs ONLY to the Son of God, Jesus Christ Himself, you are WORSHIPING. I was a Catholic for over 50 years, I know that cult from the inside out, and I am hear to tell you and everyone reading this that nothing of this “veneration” of Mary is Biblical, it is demonic, and, in fact, forbidden by the Bible. Mary, the humble Jewish maiden, would be horrified by the Babylonian-based goddess into which the Catholic “church” has transformed her. You need to get yourself a King James Bible, the inerrant Word of the Eternal God, and read it, you need to study the true history of Catholicism. The Vatican murdered thousands of Bible-believing Christians throughout the ages to keep the Truth of sacred scripture from them in their own language. I am praying for my entire deceived family and every, single Catholic on this earth to be delivered from this yoke of heresy and abominations, and delivered into the Light of Jesus Christ.

        • Sola scriptura

          That’s a lie and you know it. There is one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ. Yet Catholics pray (or talk to) dead humans “saints” including Mary, in direct violation of Paul’s words and Deuteronomy 18. Pope John Paul dedicated his papacy, not to the one who redeemed mankind with his blood in a cold hard cross, but to a dead woman. Mary. Really, he dedicated to Semaramis, wife of Nimrod and mother of satanic religions and he knew it and pope Francis knows it. And I’m beginning to think you know it too.

    • Elaine

      Two Questions for
      Catholics to Ponder
      Since your Catechism teaches that the perfect
      sacrifice of the Lord Jesus on Calvary’s
      cross was unable to purge all your sins, how
      is that your time in purgatory can be shortened
      by the sacrifice of the Mass? If Christ’s
      sacrifice was not sufficient to purify all sin,
      how is it that a re-presentation of it during
      the Mass can purge away sin?
      Vatican Council II condemns with anathema
      anyone who does not believe in indulgences.
      Whenever this is pointed out to Catholics
      who don’t believe in indulgences, they usually
      shrug their shoulders and say they don’t
      believe the anathema either. Why is it they
      do not believe their church when it condemns
      them to hell, yet they believe their
      church when it tells them what is required
      for heaven?

      Roman Catholicism by Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones, 1899-1981

      The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a “purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven,” which is experienced by those “who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified” (CCC 1030). It notes that “this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned” (CCC 1031).

      The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

      Catholic Author Raises Two Million to Get Souls Out of Purgatory
      Author Susan Tassone’s passion is to get people out of purgatory. Since the Roman Catholic Church accepts money for Masses said for the dead, Ms. Tassone urges people to hand their last will and testaments over to the Roman Church to get people out of the burning fires of purgatory.
      Tassone founded Holy Souls Mass Apostolate in 1993. All the funds raised are given to the church for Masses. She is considered an “expert” on Purgatory.

      (Question-how can she be an expert on a nonexsistantplace place?)

      • tim


        You are misunderstanding the difference between the purification we undergo through faith and baptism and the purification of purgatory. Our cleansing is 100% complete for sins committed previous to baptism…

        CCC 978 “When we made our first profession of faith while receiving the holy Baptism that cleansed us, the forgiveness we received then was so full and complete that there remained in us absolutely nothing left to efface, neither original sin nor offenses committed by our own will, nor was there left any penalty to suffer in order to expiate them. . . . Yet the grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature. On the contrary, we must still combat the movements of concupiscence that never cease leading us into evil “.

        I wish all my weaknesses were gone, but they are not. I still sin. I must confess my sins I commit after baptism to be forgiven and cleansed. (1 John 1:9).

        CCC 979 In this battle against our inclination towards evil, who could be brave and watchful enough to escape every wound of sin? “If the Church has the power to forgive sins, then Baptism cannot be her only means of using the keys of the Kingdom of heaven received from Jesus Christ. The Church must be able to forgive all penitents their offenses, even if they should sin until the last moment of their lives.”

        Sins committed are debts. Thus we have, “And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors” in the Lord’s Prayer.

        CCR 980 It is through the sacrament of Penance that the baptized can be reconciled with God and with the Church:

        Penance has rightly been called by the holy Fathers “a laborious kind of baptism.” This sacrament of Penance is necessary for salvation for those who have fallen after Baptism, just as Baptism is necessary for salvation for those who have not yet been reborn.

        CCR 1030 All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

        I know I will probably not be perfect when I die, but I will be when I enter heaven. Forgiven, yes. Perfect, no. In between these two events, something must take place. Time and place are not elements, but purification must take place.

        CCC 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:

        [As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.]

        Purgatory was not, as some say, and invention of the middle ages to swindle money out of people. The belief existed in the Church well before that. From the New Advent Dictionary:

        “So clear is this patristic Tradition that those who do not believe in purgatory have been unable to bring any serious difficulties from the writings of the Fathers. The passages cited to the contrary either do not touch the question at all, or are so lacking in clearness that they cannot offset the perfectly open expression of the doctrine as found in the very Fathers who are quoted as holding contrary opinions” (Bellarmine “De Purg.”, lib. I, cap. xiii).

        So, Christ’s sacrifice does purify all sin. Without His sacrifice, baptism and confession are useless, and purification would not be possible.

        Does the Mass purge us of our sins? Not exactly, but it helps us.

        CCC 1436 Eucharist and Penance. Daily conversion and penance find their source and nourishment in the Eucharist, for in it is made present the sacrifice of Christ which has reconciled us with God. Through the Eucharist those who live from the life of Christ are fed and strengthened. “It is a remedy to free us from our daily faults and to preserve us from mortal sins.”

        We confess our sins at the beginning of every Mass and are already cleansed when we receive it. But the graces received from it help us endure temptation.

        As for the duplicitous beliefs of some Catholics on indulgences and salvation…I have no good answer. I would just call this ‘denial’ and that usually is not healthy.

    • That may be the position of Mr. Samples – however – on the basis of my personal 30 experience in the Catholic church, during 12 years of private Catholic indoctrination and 3 years as an altar boy – I can say with 100% certainty that it is a cult based on ancient Egypt and Babylon.

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  • Mary Baynes

    As a former Catholic, once I was Born Again and accept the Bible as God’s true words, I found it necessary to RUN as fast and as far as I could from it! It was difficult but totally necessary as I firmly believe this Pope is a False Prophet and promotes One World Religion! My other Catholic friend who agrees with me has coined a phrase… He is the Obama of Catholicism! Another Catholic friend said they keep wanting to Re-crucify Jesus every Sunday but in the Bible, he only had to die Once (Thank God!) Great program tonite! Very informative! Looking forward to more!

    • tim


      Your Catholic friend does not know what he (she) is talking about. Catholics do not re-crucify Jesus every Sunday. This is nonsense.

      As a former Catholic, why do you not know this? Have you not read the Catechism of the Catholic Church for yourself?

      I kindly suggest you read it, and not get understanding from unqualified people.

      • Ed

        Tim, how is it Jesus was able to promise the thief on the cross, “This day you will be with me in paradise”. He had done nothing in life except at the final moments expressed his belief in Jesus.
        Your explanation of the RCC teaching on purgatory would then refute Jesus promise. Jesus was wrong??

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  • AndrewA

    Thankyou Geoffrey Grider for the recordings as I could not make the live show.

    on a side note: tim what is the Roman Catholic Church’s stance on Mary the mother of Jesus is she the Queen of heaven and is it right to ask her to speak on are behalf to have sins forgiven?

    I ask because Last I checked the Pope and Vatican said she was the Queen of heaven and an intermediary between us and God which runs counter to Jesus own words.

    John Ch 14 verse 6 (kjv)
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    • tim

      Andrew, thanks for the honest questions. I will give you the best answers that I am able. I have not listened to the recordings yet, so I cannot speak to them. I will listen to them as soon as I can.

      Here is what is stated in the Catechism Mary being given the title ‘Queen’:

      966 “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death. The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son’s Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:”

      So, yes she is called ‘Queen’. But this in no way implies ‘Godess’ or ‘equal with God’ or ‘godlike powers’, etc. It is a place of honor being the mother of the King, Jesus Christ. In this she has a special and unique place, not like any other. But we all looked to more fully conformed to her Son, and we shall in His kingship:
      “Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” [2 Tim 2:10-13]

      She reigns with Christ as we will someday reign with Him.

      If the title ‘Queen of Heaven’ is bothersome, please go here for more understanding:

      Can she pray on our behalf to have our sins forgiven? Yes, just as we can (1 John 5:16), Stephen did (Acts 7:60) and as Christ did (Luke 23:34).

      Some will argue that she can’t because she is dead. No, she is not!

      “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” [John 11:26]

      But certainly we must own up to and confess our sins to God, but that is what the prayers of others help us do.

      CCC 480 Jesus Christ is true God and true man, in the unity of his divine person; for this reason he is the one and only mediator between God and men.

      CCC 771 “The one mediator, Christ, established and ever sustains here on earth his holy Church, the community of faith, hope, and charity, as a visible organization through which he communicates truth and grace to all men.”

      There are other titles for Mary which must be properly understood (Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix). But the Catechism makes it clear that Christ’s mediation is unique:

      CCC 970 “Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it.” “No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.”

      I tried not to make this long, but you asked some tough questions!

      The best and most concise way to find out what Catholics believe though is to read the Catechism itself.

      • Rich

        The history of the Catholic Church is a history of evil!

      • TheGreatTroy


        You are deceived. Please ask Our Lord for forgiveness and repent. Turn towards The Light.

    • tiptopsaidhe

      Mary’s soul, upon her death, went to heaven in exactly the same way every other believer in Messiah does. Her body is awaiting it’s resurrection, just as the body of every saint who believed in Messiah.

      The queen of heaven is in the majority text only in Jeremiah, and it is speaking of the idolatry of Ashtoreth, supposed to be the wife of Baal, or Molech. Their worship of Ashtoreth and Baal is what had caused God’s anger and wrath against Israel. God divorced Israel over her adultery with Baal.

      Much is made of Mary’s request of Jesus to help out with a wedding party that had run out of wine. Catholics make it out that they can go to her because she convinced Jesus to help out at the party. They fail to read on, however, that Jesus rebukes her and they also fail to acknowledge her repentant response when she tells the servants to “listen to Him.” They pretend she told Jesus what to do and He did it. So, they believe that can go to her and she will get God to do whatever they ask. That’s not what happens, and that’s not how the wedding story went down.

  • susan

    heresy is referred to as polluted water


    “A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.”

    Ezekiel 34:19
    Must my flock feed on what you have trampled and drink what you have muddied with your feet?

  • David Flynn

    TIM! Jesus teachings are simple and a lot times one line statments.You and all caths. Ive talked to never give Holy Bible scripts for for a simple answer.what i hear is long twister babel that sounds so confusing it come come from the author himself.just take some time to read the Holybible and se how
    the truth is.Chrisians have 1father 1 use the term true catholics do this right and that right.if so many true cats out there you tell the pope who claims diety to get behind you!!! Theres so much proof about cant live under a rock and proclaime saving power ofJesus. May God open your ears a nd eyes. PS please take JESUS off those crosses of yalls, hes not there anymore.Maybe that could be a sundyschool works, no idles, no marry, not bound, no1000nds of father ect.ect.

    • tim


      Really? The Pope claims deity?

      The Catholic Church indeed teaches that the Pope is Peter’s successor. Does the Catholic Church teach that Peter was God? NO, no, no, no. Where did your hear this?

      When a Pope dies or resigns, another one is elected by the college of bishops. Where did you read that the Church ELECTS another deity?

      My suggestion is that you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church rather than listening to people who are unqualified to talk about these things.

      • The RCC teaches that the pope is Christ on earth, with the plenipotentiary power of Christ. They also claim that a pope’s opinion is flawless and is the opinion of God…yet hundreds of papal opinions have been reversed, and many popes have been wicked adulterers, murderers, Bible deniers and perverts. That is history, yet catholics still venerate, obey and even worship him blindly. It is idolatry, as is Mary worship, and the church will be destroyed with unmitigated vengeance as Babylon the great… I suggest you get a KJV Bible, read it, believe it and throw out every single catholic doctrine that contradicts it, which means pretty much all of them. Don’t replace the teachings of Jesus with the vain traditions of men, as the pharasees did and were reprimanded for it.

      • TheGreatTroy


        Why don’t you READ the Bible instead of a rules and regulations manual from the Roman Catholic Church.

        • tim


          I have been reading the Bible since I was six years old. That makes about 48 years. My first Bible was a Scofield Bible (KJV). I grew up and taught and studied the Bible for these 48 years in Protestant denominations. I served in various capacities in these churches including deacon and interim pastor when we had none. I have baptized a few, married a few and buried a few. And I dearly love the people who I was a part of until two years ago and they love me. But when I personally started studying the Catechism and investigating its claims, I realized it was a very reasonable faith and has the force of nearly 2,000 years of history behind it to show that it is consistent with early Christian understanding. I investigated the SENSTATIONAL claims (like the ones you can find on NTEB site) against the Church and found them ridiculously false. On top of that, I found the apologists on the Catholic side much more coherent and genuine than of the Protestant side. Some of the Protestant apologist (if you can them an apologist) were just outright deceptive.

          I don’t know how much Bible reading you do and you do not know that about me. So, see, you are just perpetuating the attitude that I have seen for the last three years. It is no more effective than these SENSATIONAL tails I hear on this site.

          Great Troy, can I ask YOU, have you at least read the Catechism of the Catholic Church…with Bible in hand? If you have not, then maybe you should not just call it a ‘rules and regulations’ manual. Please, don’t be like those apologists who aren’t qualified to speak on it.

          • cheshire Cat

            Hi Tim , I’m just wondering , how is a man saved according to R.C. ?
            Thank You, Cheshire

        • tim

          cheshire Cat,

          In a nutshell, it is through grace alone. I have included a portion of the CCC on Justification…
          1987 The grace of the Holy Spirit has the power to justify us, that is, to cleanse us from our sins and to communicate to us “the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ” and through Baptism:

          “But if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. For we know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. The death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves as dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.”

          Jesus said, “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”

          1988 Through the power of the Holy Spirit we take part in Christ’s Passion by dying to sin, and in his Resurrection by being born to a new life; we are members of his Body which is the Church, branches grafted onto the vine which is himself:

          [God] gave himself to us through his Spirit. By the participation of the Spirit, we become communicants in the divine nature. . . . For this reason, those in whom the Spirit dwells are divinized.

          1989 The first work of the grace of the Holy Spirit is conversion, effecting justification in accordance with Jesus’ proclamation at the beginning of the Gospel: “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Moved by grace, man turns toward God and away from sin, thus accepting forgiveness and righteousness from on high. “Justification is not only the remission of sins, but also the sanctification and renewal of the interior man.

          Basically by God’s grace, His son Jesus Christ died to redeem mankind from Satan’s clutches, God’s grace call us to Himself, God, through grace, gives us faith to believe, God’ grace washes us clean of all sins committed through baptism, God’s grace gives us works in us to do his will, God’s grace through confession continues to cleans us from unrighteousness. Through God’s saving grace, he really, really, really does change us. Christ working in us affects our justification.

          To be clear, the Church has never taught that one can earn his salvation. Grace is completely unmerited.

  • Alex

    Let us see what scripture says concerning the law of God in only the NT except for 2 verses. Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat_15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
    Rev_12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
    Rev_14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
    1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law
    Joh_5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
    Joh_8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
    Luk_16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
    Joh_7:49 But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.
    Rom_3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
    What is the new covenant? Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
    Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
    Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    Act_15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
    In EVERY INSTANCE where the the phrase (“first DAY”) of the (“WEEK) shows up the word “DAY” is inserted (it’s in italics). The work (“WEEK”) then gets a different translation then every where else where Yashua Jesus or the apostles are doing something on “SABBATH” The word is G4521 Sabbaton. The word is translated as week in many places and sabbath evrywhere else??? Please look at the scriptures and do not let lawlesness or iniquity be in you. Who is associated with lawlessness in the scriptures? Look at the beginning Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
    Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Now lets look at the end Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. What was taken away for disopbedience? What is given through obedience? Blessings to all in the name of names, the King of Kings and the Elohim God of Glory. Halleluyah!!!

  • Michael Garrison

    Understand this……on April 19th, the Ba’al arch will be constructed in New York and London. This is the first day of the worship (13 day worship) of Moloch and Ba’al, both od which use blood sacrifice.

    Moloch is totally Satanic (so is Ba’al), but with Moloch we see a little more……if you do a search of “symbols of Moloch”, you will find that The Star of David is one of the symbols of this Satanic worship. The Rothschild’s created the Star of David, and this flag has NOTHING to do with our Father, and has EVERYTHING to do with Satan.

    Folks, WE….ARE…THERE.

  • Aliceintherabbithole

    Tim – Hello. Former RC here.

    I understand all of the CC you are posting, but would like to know how you can justify an entire Commandment being wiped out while two others were split apart? (no graven images, when clearly that is all I have ever experienced as a hard core RC)

    Also, how you can explain the verse where Jesus says that I am the way, the Truth, and Life? No man can come to the Father but through me. I see all of your CC but nothing that really conveys what Jesus’s sole purpose was for coming down here. Mary, the rosary, self flagellation, paying for souls… it is all man made. NONE of that will help you get to God. You MUST go through His Precious Son.

    Why do you think that the Americans do not flagellate themselves like they do in other countries? Do you have to do say extra prayers post confession if you are not doing that too? (look up what they do around the rest of the world)

    Lastly, what about Lent? It was entirely created by the fish industry. Regardless? Fish is meat, so you are desecrating yet another Friday during Lent while you are eating that.

    I don’t see how many prayers, dollars, abstaining from fish during certain age periods in one life, self abuse or all of this CC can get you to heaven. Think about it…

    • tim


      All of the commandments are there. It matters not how you split the verses up. The section on the Ten Commandments is not numbered in the Bible. Bible verse numbering was added later by Stephen Langton (professor at the University of Paris and later he became the Archbishop of Canterbury) in the year A.D. 1227.

      Here is an explanation in the Catechism…

      The Decalogue in the Church’s Tradition

      2064 In fidelity to Scripture and in conformity with the example of Jesus, the tradition of the Church has acknowledged the primordial importance and significance of the Decalogue.

      2065 Ever since St. Augustine, the Ten Commandments have occupied a predominant place in the catechesis of baptismal candidates and the faithful. In the fifteenth century, the custom arose of expressing the commandments of the Decalogue in rhymed formulae, easy to memorize and in positive form. They are still in use today. The catechisms of the Church have often expounded Christian morality by following the order of the Ten Commandments.

      2066 The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.

      Now, I am going to make a statement that will shake many on this site: The Bible was completed well before 1611!

      I am sorry your experience was confusing. I have never worshipped and idol and the Church teaches no such thing.

      As far as why Jesus came down here…

      “For us men and for our salvation”. This is in the Nicene Creed that we all quote together every week. How did you miss that?

      Mary is not man-made although certain doctrines developed over time, just like other doctrines which are believed by all Christians (the Trinity for instance).

      The Rosary is man-made and is nowhere taught as a required devotion. Learn about this.

      Self-flagellation is not taught in the Catechism either, but mortification of the body is…

      CCC 2015 The way of perfection passes by way of the Cross. There is no holiness without renunciation and spiritual battle. Spiritual progress entails the ascesis and mortification that gradually lead to living in the peace and joy of the Beatitudes:
      He who climbs never stops going from beginning to beginning, through beginnings that have no end. He never stops desiring what he already knows.

      Mortification is bringing the body under control. This may be done through fasting and other means but we should never damage our bodies on purpose. However, we should do whatever is needed to help us not to sin. Self-flagellation or self-crucifixion that I see around the world seems a bit extreme. If people do these things thinking that in itself will get them into heaven, then they are wrong (see below)…

      Paying for souls? Not possible. Christ has already redeemed mankind with his blood as only he could do…

      “For our sake God made him to be sin”

      CCC 602 Consequently, St. Peter can formulate the apostolic faith in the divine plan of salvation in this way: “You were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your fathers. . . with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. He was destined before the foundation of the world but was made manifest at the end of the times for your sake.” Man’s sins, following on original sin, are punishable by death. By sending his own Son in the form of a slave, in the form of a fallen humanity, on account of sin, God “made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.”

      The same goes with indulgences. The Catholic Catechism is clear that it is a sin to buy and sell spiritual things, including indulgences. Of course we all know of abuses by some on this matter.

      2121 Simony is defined as the buying or selling of spiritual things. To Simon the magician, who wanted to buy the spiritual power he saw at work in the apostles, St. Peter responded: “Your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain God’s gift with money!” Peter thus held to the words of Jesus: “You received without pay, give without pay.” It is impossible to appropriate to oneself spiritual goods and behave toward them as their owner or master, for they have their source in God. One can receive them only from him, without payment.

      Fish on Friday? There is no requirement to eat fish on Fridays during lent. The law (Church Law or practice, not dogma) written in Latin says to abstain from ‘carnis’ which is the meat of warm blooded land dwelling animals. This does not include fish.

      None of those things in your last sentence is taught by the Catechism as a way to heaven.

      Thanks for all the good questions.

      I hope I have cleared some things up for you with my brief answers.

  • matt



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