Pope Francis Meets With Charismatic Church Leaders To Plan Return To Mother Church

At their meeting today in Rome, they discussed among other things, the coming alliance of the Roman Catholic church with the Charismatic apostates. ...

The apostate Charismatics will be the first to fall

That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.” Ecclesiastes 3:15

Back in March, we reported to you how Anglican priest Tony Palmer, a member of the Roman Catholic Ecumenical Delegation for Christian Unity and Reconciliation, gave a rousing call to Kenneth Copeland’s church to “return to Mother Rome”. He was met with a hero’s welcome by a very enthusiastic congregation. And just in case you thought that it was a “one off” meeting, you would be sadly mistaken.


Pope Francis isn’t selling anything, he’s buying.

Flash forward to today in Vatican City, Rome, and who do we see meeting around the table?  Why, it looks like charismatic leader Kenneth Copeland, Roman Catholic priest Tony Palmer, and assorted others from the Charismatic movement in Toronto breaking bread with the False Prophet from the book of Revelation, Pope Francis. And just in case you forgot Tony Palmer’s original message, here is a refresher for you:

At their  meeting today in Rome, they discussed among other things, the coming alliance of the Roman Catholic church with the Charismatic apostates. This has already been in the works for quite some time, and they feel very confident of making the merger. Of course, at first, it will simply be  a “let’s focus on what we have in common” ruse whose mask will be dropped soon after the Charismatics have grown comfortable with the idea.

Absorbing the Charismatics and the Pentecostal movements will create the foundation the Vatican needs for their One World Religion. The Vatican’s alliance with Islam has already been established to great success. Just like Rome used the army of Spain as muscle for the Spanish Inquisition during the dark ages, Rome will use the blood-thirsty Muslim terrorists of Islam to regain control in our day. Joel Osteen has already met with Pope Francis, and is a huge supporter of his efforts.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4

The Roman Catholic Church brags constantly that they have “never changed”, and that is true. The Vatican that exists today is exactly the same demonic system that began the Spanish Inquisition to kill Christians back then. As Ecclesiastes says, that which has already been, is the thing that shall be.

Even so, come Lord Jesus…quickly.




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    • farmer brown

      Yes, very sad, my Great grandmother told me those same words over 30yrs ago, concerning those who reject the name of Jesus. It is a great burden to see this happen.

  • Dr. Love

    God Bless you and your staff for getting this information out. Jesus warned us about being deceived. I want to know the Truth & be ready for the Lord’s return. I just dont understand why I cant find this information on all the Christian sites I read!!,?
    Thank you!
    Dr. Love

    • morne rose

      Get in touch with a seventh day adventist who will explain everything even give you sources. If u really cant then search on YouTube or order a series called ‘God’s Final Call’ by Mark Woodman. God bless!

    • morne rose

      People do yourselves a favour and search on YouTube or order the series called ‘God’s Final Call’ by Mark Woodman. he will answer all your questions God bless!

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    Fact is ken copeland long ago sold out his people with the teaching of them being little gods- aka just like jesus you’ll be

    • NanaJ

      You are SO right. Kenneth Copeland, many other BIG ministries on TV and traveling around today, are using Kenneth Hagin’s type of “prosperity” gospel, which is shamefully NOT the Gospel of Christ.
      Aren’t they aware that they will be held accountable for this? If you follow any of these big ministries, check yourself to see it it’s because you have “itching ears”. Stick with the Holy Bible for truth. Take this opportunity to get a good look at these ministers who tell you that you can be a little god. They diminish the true Gospel of Christ.They can be very persuasive; but theirs is a false gospel. The person who submitted this article to Jennifer’s page also should take a good look at the “name it and claim it” type of teaching here. It is a FALSE GOSPEL. By the way, I don’t see ONE of these who promote this gospel, going into the hospitals and healing everyone with just their words. We are NOT in control of everything with the words we speak….we are NOT little gods, and we do NOT have the power of Christ, even though we belong to Him for our Salvation. God spoke the entire universe into existence. This false gospel teaches that you can just speak everything into existence. Sorry, we will never measure up to God’s tremendous power. Stick with the Holy Bible only. Do NOT follow these rich preachers who are wasteful and self-centered. I would hate to be in their shoes when they meet Jesus face to face.

    • NanaJ


    The falling away is what the ten virgins to five do – when the pre trib master is delayed. Same as lukes good/faithful servant who makes a choice when the master is delayed.

    • suez

      Amen Truth Be Told!! thanks for that!

  • Deanna

    Even the elect are being fooled in these last days!

    • JJ

      Elected can’t be deceived. Read Matthew 24:24

      • Guest

        JJ what are you talking about??

      • NanaJ


    • NanaJ

      You are right, and the Holy Bible tells us this will happen.


    Hate to disagree but the antichrist isnt islamic – dan 9:26-27 tells us the prince of the people who come to destroy in 70ad will make the 7 year agreement…. islam is armies of gog

    • suez

      @Truth Be Told,,,thank you for that also. I am no Bible Scholar, but I could never go along with the anti-christ coming out of Islam. I don’t think the true Jews would ever accept anyone else but a Jew? Or one who claims to be Jewish anyway.. 🙂

      • JC

        I have thought that the antichrist could be a Jew who converts to Islam. If he is Jewish born the Jews will follow him, not realizing he will turn on them 3 1/2 years later. Many saved Muslims believe the mark of the beast will be the letters that read “Allah”. And Revelation 20 talks of those who were beheaded for not following the antichrist! Gee, what religion goes around doing that? Then there is the view that the Pope is the antichrist because of his ecumenical push but I believe he is ONE of the antichrists preparing the way for THE antichrist. There is also the technological deception that is on the horizon to stage the antichrist’s coming discovered by discernment editor Constance Cumbey back in the 60’s. With all that can be done 50 years later in 2014, deception is truly around the corner to fool the world. And, II Thessalonians 2 says the antichrist will come in great power and wonders to deceive many.

  • STL

    Only about 1 more year the Rapture will occur?

    • Guns N Rosaries

      The “rapture” is un-biblical. Although a false “rapture” might be a real possibility. Reports have been coming in lately of a lot of disappearances.

    • There will be NO Pre-tribulation Rapture. It is a trick by Satan to deceive one into believing that the first one proclaiming to be God is God. Why would the ones left behind in a Pre-tribulation scenario have any reservations NOT to take the Mark of the Beast? They wouldn’t. So who will be the unwilling if all of the Christians were already “Raptured?” If Bible believing Christians believe for one minute that there will not be any suffering or Severe persecution, you have been deceived. There WILL be a Rapture but NOT as most Christians believe. Please study the information on this web-link and maybe you will have a better understanding of what is to come. Ask The Lord for discernment and may God Bless you.


      • Nancy McKnabb

        “”…Behold the final generation… The last people of the kingdom of men… An arrogant and wicked people… Exalting themselves over their Creator and that created for them.
        Therefore, the time has come… And this good earth, of which you have polluted and struck continually, without ceasing, as though it was an enemy, shall indeed become your enemy. And you shall be struck, unable to move, perplexed… Greatly vexed, over those things overtaking the earth and all its inhabitants.
        WOE, WOE, WOE, TO THE PEOPLES OF THE EARTH!… I am coming down to you… And I shall also depart… And that, which is Mine, shall depart with Me… I AM THE LORD!…””


  • James

    There won’t be any much Islamic power soon. Money is to be made in renewal of crusades and delivering Jerusalem. Then make peace with remnants of Islam. Power of Germany at work militarily and financially.
    Germany is the bear of Daniel and Revelation. “Mark” brings to mind former German currency. Three fangs/ribs in mouth could be WWI, WWII, and WWIII. There’s still a German Pope out there running loose. How does that one fit in with anti-Christ? Just my crazy opinion.
    I also can’t help but think of the French Huguenots getting massacred/assassinated/murdered. Removal of heads happen in the Islamic nations, but you need to check insurance code in USA that provides for beheading as a form of execution.

  • laura

    “Apostate” is not too strong a word. http://graceexplosion.com/kenneth-copeland-reveals-himself-as-new-world-order-charlatan-in-catholic-alliance/ Kenneth Copeland: NWO Charlatan in Catholic Alliance

  • Rebecca

    The Antichrist/Son of Perdition

    Revelation 17:10 (KJV) And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
    1st King – Pius XI from 1922 until 1939
    2nd King – Pius XII from 1939 until 1958
    3rd King – John XXIII from 1958 until 1963
    4th King – Paul VI from 1963 until 1978
    5th King – John Paul I 1978 and reigned only 33 days
    6th King – John Paul II from 1978 until 2005
    7th King – Benedict XVI from 2005 until 2013 when he resigned (an occurrence that has never happened in history)

    Revelation 17:11 (KJV) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
    8th King – Francis I from March 13, 2013 until the end of the world

    Pope Francis I is the first pope in the history of the Roman Catholic Church to be a Jesuit. Satan has been readying this 8th king/pope for many years, and he could not have found a more suitable person for the role of the 8th king than a Jesuit pope.

    Google “The Jesuit Oath”…it explains much!!!!!

    • How can anyone suppose the kings spoken of in Rev 17:10 were future popes?? John clearly said “five are fallen, and one is”. Such arbitrary
      speculation has no basis in scripture.

    • Beano

      This does not make sense.

      What about the one before Pius XI? And if Francis is not the one then you just move up your king to the next one higher to make it fit, eh?

    • Guns N Rosaries

      As a traditional Catholic I must comment:

      There is evidence that Pius XII lost his pontificate after his valid election due to heresy. There is no reason to believe that Pius XI was an Anti-pope….if you’re going by a certain viewpoint from a couple of well known monks who include Pius XI, I think, they err. There is no reason to believe Apoc. 12 is out of chronological order, which means the Empire/Beast out of the sea rises first, before the Wounded Head is healed. If you hold that the reverse is true you must then give me an excellent reason as to why we should not hold to a chronological order of events. JPII was hit in 1981…the E.U. wasn’t incorporated until 1993. Therefore, JPII cannot be THE Anti-christ…though he did speak like an anti-christ, but there have been many anti-christs, as you well know.

      Consider this: the beast is a kingdom as spoken of by Daniel; a beast is also a reference for bestial man/men in the Old Testament….so which is the correct interpretation? The 10 Horns/Kings are separate from the 7 Heads/Hills, and these 10 Horns directly correlate to the temporal power exercised by the Beast to control his Empire. In other words, the Beast/Empire and the 10 Horns would be redundant if considered together as “the muscle” to enforce the wrath of the Emperor. And it makes no sense that the Empire will heal the fallen Head/future Emperor. No, you must have an Emperor first, who then builds/solidifies the Empire, not the other way around. If you view the beast out of the sea (of humanity) as a man, I think the Apocalypse just became much easier to understand.

      Here’s my take:

      Bergoglio is #7…he’s the short-timer….he is not a valid priest, nor a valid bishop…..he’s just like Judas Iscariot..an unconsecrated layman.
      Bergoglio has given up the Antipope-mobile for security….he’s ticked off the radical factions on both the Israeli and Palestianian sides, and he’s ticked off the Calabrese mafia….one double-tap to the head, followed by a false healing and you have….the Wounded Head, who’s image will soon be worshiped.

      The words “rot” and “rat” are very similar in spelling and pronunciation..so what if Benedict XVI’s real name was Rotzinger, which translated means “red power,” red strength,” or “red vitality.” Ring a bell yet? How about if Benedict is the Red Dragon?

      We’re only left with the False Prophet; odds are a false resurrection from the dead, probably John Paul II and there you have it….the “unholy trinity” alive and walking the earth, with the FP making all men take the mark.

  • Nancy

    Kenneth Copeland is a high up mason as are many in that movement. The “black” pope is a mason also, same for many Jesuits. This is part of the mystery school. Indications in Daniel are the the coming worldleader comes from some place in the middle east, and he would be a half Jew just as Judas was.
    The pope is getting it all together for the coming world leader who will evenbtually get rid of him.

    What a privledge it is to be living today as we see every word in our beloved BOOK being fulfilled.

    • Guest

      Thank you John Duckner

      • NanaJ


    • Nancy McKnabb

      “Now hear My words and gain wisdom, for thus says The Lord: If in My Word, as it was written in the beginning by My chosen people, there was no trace of this doctrine of hell and eternal torment, as it is commonly spoken of amongst the churches of men, how has it now come to be in the New Covenant Scriptures? Again, I say to you, consider and pray, and seek My face by He who alone is the image of The Invisible God; for only through The Son shall the true nature of The Father be revealed.
      My children, be wise and vigilant; do not be deceived. For I tell you the truth, from the beginning satan was a deceiver and a murderer; he has never been on the side of truth. From the beginning he sought to ensnare My people, saying, “You will not surely die.” And still to this day, the lie is widely spoken of and accepted, even fiercely defended by the churches of men for the sake of pride. For they uphold the lie, teaching that whether one believes and accepts The Son, or whether one forbears and rejects The Life, all have eternal life in Heaven or in hell… BELIEVE THEM NOT! See with greater eyes, for I do not change! I do not grant eternal life to the wicked in any form, nor shall the evil of heart see everlasting life! Their existence shall be taken from them; they shall surely be blotted out! There is no life in death, nor is there torment in My vesture, nor did it enter My mind!”


    • carrierwave

      What on earth do you think the pope is striving for here?, To drive these people away from the Vatican? Please! These events are to further and consolidate a one world ecclesiastical system! Do you really believe the pope believes in salvation by GRACE? I was getting ready to marry a catholic 35 years ago. I was told I had to follow my future wife and become catholic. When I got done reading the teachings and doctrines of the catholic religion I SAID NO! I was told I had to worship Mary and saints and perform countless rituals, and sacraments and I could not “know” I was going to heaven! Lady your are the one who has gotten your facts WRONG. Many popes have claimed that the “separated brothers” would one day “come back home”. Your words do not fool me or the majority here who know what Rome’s doctrine teaches. WORKS salvation with Jesus still “hanging dead” on a crucifix! Wake up lady!!!!

    • Darlene

      I agree with you Sue. This picture of a gathering of Christian world leaders has nothing to do with apostasy. This article has jumped to a lot of conclusions based on assumption.

  • They do express love on this site. Love is also warning others about the coming dangers. How can I say I love you but never warn you when someone is trying to hurt you, that’s not love. The Apostle in the Ist century church always warned the church about apostates, false teachers and false prophets. They were there in their day. And they are here now in the modern world. Jesus is coming and he warned us in Matthew 24. Thank you Jesus for your love and commitment. Did you know Jesus talked more about hell in his parables? Why cause he loves us and don’t want us to be separated from him in heaven. Jesus loves us and wants us to repent and be saved from sin through him. I love this site keep up the great work.

    • suez

      Amen Alfred!!!! 🙂 To love is to warn people, eve if the bash you!!! And bash you they will, they want to believe the lies of the devil, but not the truth that God gives! Very sad.

      • Amen to that. KJV Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    • Nancy McKnabb

      “By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.” – 1 John 5:2-3

  • Copeland and the pope don’t have the market cornered on deceit alone. They have a lion’s share, no doubt, but so does Zionism [also known as dispenationalism]. This new wave of darkness began in the 1800s with J.N.Darby, and was spread by C.I.Scofield’s polluted notes, which were inserted into the text of his reference bible, and distributed to major American seminaries. Zionism is at the heart of most all of today’s popular “prophesy” books and speculation, and of the racism so apparent in the idea that God loves the Jews more than any other race, and that we should too… even to the point of hiding our faces from their glaring sins, such as their unbelief in Jesus Christ, laws against evangelism, and hatred for the Palestinians.
    Why call Jesus “Lord” and not love your enemies as he commanded? Why support lying, self-serving politician-snakes and pastor-wolves who demand war while they prey in hope of victory?

    • Colossians 1:25
      25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the DISPENSATION of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

  • Revelation 17:4-6 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
    6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    There is not any religious group of people besides the Roman Catholic Church which has persecuted and slaughtered so many Saints, the true followers of Christ, and more of this is yet to come.

    Now “she” the Mother of Harlots is calling her daughters home, which are those who have come out of her (as by birth) but who never really had “a change of heart”. Therefore they will follow the Mother of Harlots in abomination and in her “lie”.

    Indeed, the end is near as we can read the world news what humanity is getting into concerning abominable gross sin, even condoned by authorities. It’s getting far worse than in the days of Noah.

    The words of Jesus came to me, over and over again: “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your REDEMPTION draweth nigh.

    Thank You Jesus.

  • The Lord tells us all to be shrewd and cunning, gentle and wise. May we be so! GaryB.


    i dont care! im bornagain and heaven awaits me!

  • carrierwave

    The Jesuits are the most evil and deceptive tyrants of the dark side. They are will infitrate ANY religious order and become a baptist, methodist, charismatic, JW, Mormon, SDA, etc. They are “trained” in all the lingo and traditions of each religion and meld themselves covertly into places of authority and power. I have no doubt that those at that “table” are all from the same order, inspite of their religious “costumes” they are wearing. It is scary to think that maybe your own ‘church’ is being led by a Jesuit imposter! I know of one personally who is. Early believers chose their ‘pastors’ from among the local assemblies whom THEY KNEW and lived with. Today a professional clergy are “brought in” from outside the flock. This is not God’s Biblical pattern!

  • Ron Murphy

    Part 1
    REVELATION CHAPTER 17, by Ron Murphy, Verses17: 1-3
    (1) Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great hore that sitteth upon many waters:

    This vision is after the vision of the end of time, which took place in the previous verses, chapter 16. It was one of the angels from the plagues that came to give John the understanding of the Harlot, as described in Rev 16:19 and also in Rev 14:8, that the angel referred to Babylon, as the fallen, and will soon meet her demise.
    The judgment referred to here in 17:1 is the falling and the punishment of the winepress of God’s wrath. The many waters as described, is explained later in this chapter.

    Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
    This angel is near the end of the great tribulation, as God’s wrath is spoken of in the next angel’s voice.

    Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    Try to keep in mind the wine that she drank, is not the same wine that God has in his wine press. I’ll explain later.

    (2) Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

    The kings of the earth will take part in her sins, that they should also drink the wine. What does this mean? First we must know what the wine is, and what is her sin that they take part of. Also keep this question in mind as we continue.

    (3)Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

    The only thing I want to emphasize here, is the wilderness that is represented in this spiritual scenario, but that alone is enough! This wilderness, or place of desolation, wilderness mean desolate place, is the same as the wilderness in Rev 12:14. But I know you are asking, how can this be? Can the woman of Revelation 12 flee into the wilderness of the harlot to hide? Let look at Rev 12:14.

    Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

    Now we know the two prophets from Rev 11 are to prophesy for 1260 days in the streets of Jerusalem, because that is where our Lord was crucified, and also she is called the great city, all through out the Bible, Rev 11:8. It is these 2 prophets the are doing the feeding and nourishing to the woman that is hiding, and if these 2 can avoid the antichrist, then it would make sense they could, too. The persecution, if in effect at that time in Judea, and that describes the flood of Rev 12:15-16. Also, if we look at the time line of 1260 day to prophesy, Rev 11:3 then it correlates with, Rev 12:6.

    Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

    Notice Rev 12:14 into her place, also referring to the place belonging to her. So what is her place other than Jerusalem, where these two prophets are testifying. Is it not saying God has hidden them in the desolate city, desolate, because of the abominations that made her that way? Luke 21:20.

    Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

    How can a city be desolate, if she is full of armies? Luke 21:24.

    Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    Notice the sequence of events here! They are synonymous, the 2 prophets are teaching as the armies tread the city.
    Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
    Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    So what is Jerusalem desolate of when the abominations are manifest?
    It is those that have the word of God in them. It is the Word of God, that is taken out of the way, and then the antichrist is revealed, 2Thess 2:7, by the understanding of those that saw the abominations, and knew something is amiss. These do not take the mark, for they are the remnant of God’s choosing, the famed 144K of the tribes of Israel, which shall replenish the kingdom age of Jews inheriting the land of Canaan, Rev 14:4, Gen 15:18-21.

    Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    It is the Christians that flee, the ones Jesus is talking to, here. They make Jerusalem desolate of the word of God, Amos 8:11.

    Amo 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

    Isn’t it marvelous, the same famine of God’s word, but still the remnant has the two prophets to nourish and feed them.

  • Hugh McCann

    Beast 1, Beast 2, & Dragon?

    • Revelation 2:9

      Martin Luther…one of my heroes !!!!

  • Satan Knows his time is very short now. We can see how fast it is all coming down. One thing is so bad now, So many people do not know the Word of God. when the bottom drops out as the conspiracy is set to do. when so many people will begin to find the narrow way, They are so set up for the broad way that leads to destruction. Thinking all of this new way, to them it sounds good and the right thing to do. Unity sounds good and right, well it is good and it is right but when the new leaders are working so hard and so fast for Satan. with an other Gospel, Paul said there is no other Gospel other then what has been given by God and the Holy Men of the 400 plus KJV holy Bible with the pretty red words that say, I am the way the truth and the Life, no man comes to God but by me I am the only way to be saved. There are many great people on this net work that has the knowledge and the wisdom of the Lord. It is great to just tell people about this one to study with. God said he would reveal so many like Copeland and others in this time. It can’t be long now. Jacob will soon have his big trouble. when they cry out to the Lord Jesus. God will save them also for ever.
    God bless all they that print the Gospel with all the Great scriptures.
    Roy C.H. USA

    • Revelation 2:9

      Spain kicked the bums out because they were a plague.

    • Nancy McKnabb

      “”…Thus says The Lord: The light has gone out of the churches of men! Therefore I, even I, have removed all candlesticks from their places, and shall not return them again until the time is fulfilled, when all these men in authority humble themselves and seek MY face and MY glory… And turn from the glory of men.
      Thus the veil is not yet lifted. For even these who turn to Me do disobey even all I have given them… A great stifling of My Spirit… Refusing to be led by faith and in trust, embracing rather all doctrine born of men and the harlot, from whom all abominations were conceived and passed down, says The Lord.

      No church of men shall stand in the Day of The Lord!…

      For The True Church and Bride shall be taken,
      According to the truth her heart reveals…

      Yes, all those in whom I see of Myself.

      And of these who do continually resist My word, who do pervert their way among many witnesses, they shall in no wise escape, but shall bring Me glory in the Day of The Lord, which comes very quickly… For behold! The hand of The Lord God is upon the multitude and shall not be moved, and many sons and daughters shall come into glory by great tribulation! A great city shall be built up in the midst of many sorrows… Yet in Heaven, great rejoicing!… A city, a city! A city, called Martyrdom! Says The Lord of Hosts…””


    • Teresa

      A@ Jesse, How is my life a waste by following Jesus Christ and striving to live in truth, kindness and patience and all other virtues that most decent people believe in to better their life and others? The difference between you and I (my presumption)is I do believe my life matters greatly for all eternity and the eternity of others in my care and reach. I do believe Jesus is the only way to this eternal life of all the best of any life of goodness and love. I pray and hope your family means more to you than yourself and your closed thinking that living for Jesus Christ is a wasted life. I know Him, He lives within my spirit and He is all good and love and also ALL truth, even when it hurts my pride or my selfish desires. Accept Him today and see if He will not love you and give you a grand reason to live this life for HIM and then others. There is a reason you posted to this site, it is God calling you to hear Him and see Him in His Son Jesus Christ.

      • Amen to you Teresa, that was a very honest response !

        God Bless.

    • Nancy McKnabb

      “”…Look how these people wear their churches as a garment! For they take much pride in their own names, they are puffed up. See how they walk about, with their heads held high, speaking proudly, taking no time to stop and listen… THEY REFUSE TO HEAR!
      I tell you the truth, their faces are covered in shame! Their nakedness is uncovered, their rebellion is made plain! Their ears are full of their perverse doctrines, and their detestable traditions are always upon their lips! There is no light in them and darkness covers them… They are unable to see. …””


    • Guns N Rosaries

      Joseph Goebbels said that the bigger the lie, the people will believe it….and you have just validated his claim. Apparently you are unwilling to explore the Catholic side of history which is the history of truth as far as events go, but you listen to the enemies of Jesus Christ and His Church, thus you hear only the devil. And this is why you cannot formulate a coherent thought, nor think on clearly critical matters.

      St. Peter was a CHRISTIAN….he stopped going to the Old Temple at a certain point, the destruction of the Temple, I believe.

      The Old Covenant was abolished, except for the Commandments and the Prophets, and obviously morality.
      A New Covenant was instituted with new feast days and a new Sabbath, or would you like to continue worshiping in the CONDEMNED JEWISH RELIGION on the DAY CHRIST LIED DEAD IN THE TOMB, OR WOULD YOU RATHER WORSHIP ON THE DAY CHRIST WAS ALIVE AGAIN AND ROSE FROM THE TOMB? This is why Sunday replaced Saturday as the Sabbath….it is so ridiculously simple. If you want to remain a Jew then I’m almost certain the blood curse of St. Matthew 26 might easily be applied to you.

      Judas Iscariot was evil, yet Christ chose him as an Apostle, and yes sometimes men become Popes who don’t live up to Christian ideals and morals, so what, do you throw out the religion of Jesus Christ because of a few failing men? Hogwash!!

      No, the current Anti-pope won’t sit on it for a very good reason; IT IS A SIGN FROM HEAVEN which will eventually CONFIRM 2 Thess 2 v 4. If Solomen’s Temple still existed you would say it is the Temple of God, yet for well over a dozen centuries you refuse to understand that a new Temple of God has super-ceded Solomen’s Temple.

      There will soon be only two kinds of people….those who are Christian (Catholic), and those who have taken the mark of the beast. All others will be dead.

    • Nancy McKnabb

      I tell you, all religions shall fail! Not one shall persist! For The Salvation of God is nowhere to be found in the religions of men, nor shall one find Me in any denomination or church. Thus all your attempts to hold onto your self-righteousness are in vain, for every bitter and perverse doctrine of men shall burn in that day.
      My children, Christ’s church dwells within Him, and He dwells in the hearts of men. This is where My Son has rebuilt the temple, which has fallen down. Yet you seek outwardly in the world for fulfillment, mixing the things of the world with the things of God, polluting pure worship with the abominations of the pagan and the heathen… Desecrating My name and My glory as you continue segregating My Word, in an effort to maintain your own way.
      Therefore, be separate! Says The Lord of Hosts, your Redeemer. Come out from among them, and follow Me! My servants, take nothing with you, for I abide not in any church made with human hands… Why do you not understand My speech?! For I tell you the truth: Those who love anyone or anything in this world, more than Me, are not worthy of Me; and to be a friend of this world is enmity with God, as it is written… Stop stifling the Spirit!

  • dee addario

    prayer alone wont be enough, its how are we going to be ready practically? My 1st thought was making my own cycle of food n medicine reproduction.. Or kamikaze?

  • Bob Andersen

    Please educate yourselves on topics like the protestant inquisition, the Anglican slaugther of Catholics in England, and many other examples. A knowledge of history is to cease being Protestant.

  • Revelation 2:9

    Don’t worry,the jews have the Catholic Church under control.

    In 1492 CE, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion (after the fall of Muslim rule in spain).

    This was the reply:

    ” Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves. The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

    1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.
    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.
    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives.
    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]
    5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.
    6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

    ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— —-
    The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: “This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.” — vide, photostat facing page 80. ~ The above was quoted from Waters Flowing Eastward by Paquita de Shishmareff, pp. 73-74

    • Gene

      I think she said it because further down in the article it says he is a RC priest.

    • Brenda Murphy

      You are the only one who validates your sense of reasoning.

      Look around you, don’t you see that there had to be someone that created all that?

      Now that is reasoning!

    • Nancy McKnabb

      “”…O you men of intellect, stop your vain babblings, shed all this arrogance… Your science has become a false religion! Step back from your knowledge, and be then naked of all these false beliefs, and look with eyes wide and ears open, listening to the voice of The Most High God. Stand silent and naked before your God; watch and listen. For He speaks to you; yea, He shouts to you from on high!…

      Behold, you are consumed in His glory!
      His glory assaults you on every side!…

      Even within, look, He is there!

      For in you are all things written, in your very being,
      Delicately etched there by The Right Hand of God…

      Which I am.

      There is no escape from His glory! For apart from His glory is only darkness and death; and without Him all life ceases, for He causes all things to be. The vastness of His being is not hidden; it shines forth, from the infinitely small to the infinitely large… Behold, God has no end! He IS The Creator! And I am your Carpenter, The image of The Invisible God, The Firstborn over all creation!
      By Me were all things created, both visible and invisible, in Heaven and on Earth; whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers, all things that are and were created were created through Me and for Me. For I am before all things, and in Me all things consist. Therefore, take your mind and fill it with wonder and awe; take your instruments and seek out the answer, probe the earth and the heavens, and there you will find Me… For God is The Origin of Life! He alone is God, Creator of all things, known and unknown! And I am The Answer you seek, The very Meaning of Life!… The Only Begotten of The Father, God in the flesh, Immanu El.
      For all things are made, live, and come to their fulfillment, in Me… Yes, I am The Meaning of Life! I am Jesus and Christ, Lord and Savior, Yeshua The Messiah! YahuShua HaMashiach is My name, and you are in life because of Me! For I am He through whom you were made.

      You seek, and so you find that all discoveries lead to God…

      Though you need not seek, nor discover,
      For the knowledge of God is within you…

      His very Spirit which has given you breath…

      Seek on therefore, for understanding is coming and is very near!

      Yet only the shedding of your sin, and the death of your pride, shall lead you into the truth you seek, for I am that Truth, being the same One who made all things as The Father desired. Therefore come to Me, and you shall have true knowledge; receive of My gifts, and you shall understand. For My glory is coming, and shall shine from the east even unto the west, a glory far greater than that which you behold in the heavens!… The glory of The Great God and Creator!… The God of Abraham! The God of Isaac! The God of Jacob! The God of your fathers! Even unto Adam, the father of all.
      So then, you stiff-necked and wicked generation, seek on by unbelief and you shall discover the truth, which is God. Dissect life’s structures, there I am, its Writer and Fashioner… Look deeper and farther than before, and there you will find Me; calculate and count all things, which are before your eyes, and there you will find Me; search the Cosmos, study it, and you will begin to know Me… No matter where you point your lenses, there I am within the scope of your understanding.
      Did you think I am hidden, The Invisible God of your ancestors? Though you do not behold My face, I am shining all around you. And lo the day is coming, and has already come, and hence shall come in less than two weeks time, when every eye shall see!… Lo, they shall behold My face! For I shall be before all, and all shall be before Me!

      For I am the glorified Holy One of Israel,
      Coming to fulfill all that is written of Me!
      For I come on a white horse, and the saints do follow Me!…

      Behold! The earth shall tremble, and the heavens shall be rolled back at My coming!…

      This world shall pass away, and be recreated anew in My glory,
      The glory of life without end!…

      For I am The Author and The Finisher,
      The Beginning and The Ending,
      Alpha and Omega.



    • Nancy McKnabb

      STOP BELIEVING MEN…. Listen to what God says and Believe HIM!!!

      “”…Therefore, the first of many is finished… The lowly, of the lowly, will be taken… Every person, in whom I see of Myself, And every innocent child, in whom I dwell, having never departed… Behold, even the mentally handicapped shall be taken, And made whole in an instant, to the glory of The Father!…””



      “”…Thus says The Lord: Humble yourselves, O churches of arrogance, and pray that you are not left standing upon the earth in bewilderment, in the day I gather up My treasured ones and steal away My elect… Those counted worthy to escape all these things which shall come to pass, the first to stand in the presence of The Son of Man, the first to be sheltered from My fury! Behold, the angels of Heaven shall ascend and descend upon The Son of Man, until the harvest is made complete!
      Therefore, again I say to you, humble yourselves! For pride has blinded your eyes and arrogance has stopped your ears!… REPENT! And pray double for those YOU have led from the Truth! For you preach and teach in the name of another Jesus, a false christ who looks nothing like Me, a molded image which you have shaped to fit your own perverse doctrines and filthy traditions, polluting My name and My glory as you continue to twist and segregate My Word, to your own hurt!

      Therefore, blessed are all those who come out from among them…

      Blessed are those who obey God rather than men,
      And blessed are those who place all their trust in The Son of God,
      Striving always to walk in His ways and keep The Commandments,
      For they shall surely be taken out of this place…

      Yet woe to those who hate The Son,
      Woe to all who turn aside from The Way,
      For the wrath of God remains upon them!…

      Says The Lord…””


  • Beano

    It is amazing how blind these people can be. BUT God said HE WOULD BLIND THEM. And that is the only conclusion I can use to explain it.


  • Stephen

    Why is it that a lot of Christians think they’re going to leave earth and escape the Tribulation? Read Matthew real good! Jesus never said that in any of the parables. In fact, He basically states that will be going through the Tribulation. The True Church will be shared by people in small numbers.

  • wallamazoo

    Fear not, my children for all these things shall come to pass. But do not fear these things, instead follow me and my message to you as the watchers will do. When the time comes I shall come to thee, and during these times many will call themselves Prophets in my Name and they shall be false. You will know it is me when a light blasts from the East and unto the West and I come from the heavens above to reclaim my lands and people and give rest unto those who have suffered and banish the blasphemers.

    -A culmination of Mark, Luke, and the Revelations

  • Ron Murphy

    Part 2
    REVELATION CHAPTER 17, by R. Murphy, Verses 17:4-6

    (4) Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

    Many believe this to be Rome with the purple, and some believe it to be England, or USA with the red scarlet. And indeed, England or London, with all her wealth could be considered for the gold, preciuos stones, and pearls. But London or the USA can’t be matched to the purple at all. And Rome can’t be matched to the scarlet. So what is this cup in her hand, and why is it so abominable and filthy in God’s eyes? I’m trying not to get ahead of myself. But let’s take a look at what God said about Jerusalem, with these colors and why she might be holding the abominable cup.

    Jerusalem’s temple will be built again, at the first of the 7 year covenant, Daniel 9:27. Or, at least that is when the sacrifices will begin, Daniel 8:13-14. Now these sacrifices must have priests to perform the task, so here we have the priest performing the sacrifices as the grace covenant still exists, which was instituted by Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. Well, that alone would be an abomination to God, it’s not his way. So, to the point, just what are the colors that the priests are arrayed in? And what are they doing with that one, as a messiah?

    Joh_5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

    Exo 28:4 And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle: and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office.
    Exo 28:5 And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen.
    Exo 28:6 And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
    Much of the temple was also in use of these colors. God even said himself of Jerusalem:

    Eze 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
    Eze 16:10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers’ skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
    Eze 16:11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
    Eze 16:12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
    Eze 16:13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
    Eze 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
    Eze 16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

  • Ron Murphy

    (5) Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

    We know from Revelation 11:8, the spiritual name for Jerusalem is called Sodom and Egypt. These signify harlotry and filthiness, as Sodom and abominations, as Egypt. Egypt was reknown for their god’s and the Hebrews were reknown for worshipping them. Jerusalem is the worship center of many religions today, but the main one is on it’s way, the Worship of the antichrist that will set in the temple showing himself to be God, and the whole world will be worshipping him, 2Thess. 2:4, Rev 13:4,8.

    2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    This is the big abomination and harlotry of all. It is pure witchcraft and the worship of it.

    Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

    (6) Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Now we have the answer to all the questions asked, so far. The wine in her cup, is the blood of these, and they are brought on by the worship of the antichrist, the abomination. The nations were made to drink of her cup, also, so this is not confined to just Jerusalem. They will all be guilty. That alone makes her the mother of it all.

    Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    Rev 16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
    Rev 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    • Bob Andersen

      Why do you need a hate symbol to justify your theology?

      • Bob Andersen

        Google protestant inquisition, you will find all denominations were equal in their human folly.

    • Ron Murphy

      That is true if, it is the Holy Spirit that’s speaking in us. Some speak in tongue, not of that Spirit. There is a big difference in being born of the Spirit and another thing in being immersed in the Spirit, both are gifts from God to His children, whether newborns or seasoned(meat eating).

  • morne rose

    People do yourselves a favour and get hold of a series called ‘God’s Final Call ‘ by Mark Woodman. He answers all the questions you ask. God bless!

    • Sue Neugebauer

      Amen! Makes me glad I am a Messianic Jewish Charismatic Evangelical Catholic! But I do feel sorry for these people. They have made an idol of their own opinions! They will be very surprised when they get to heaven to see who is there!

    • Tracy

      @David Connell,
      First, I don’t know who the False Prophet or the anti-Christ is, and really don’t care to know. However, Christians who have studied the Bible DO know what is going on in the world today; and the future is not totally hidden. We know by what is written in God’s Holy Word; and, it’s the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
      The Bible says that you shall know them (Christians) by their fruits. All anyone needs to do is watch and listen to these people. If they are not displaying the fruit of the spirit, and it’s all about themselves or their riches, then that kind of sums the person up. But, God is in total control of ALL the world, whether the evil ones believe it or not. That’s why true Christians are secure and not fearful of what’s ahead; we know the King of kings and Lord of lords.
      Praise Him always.

    • Sue Neugebauer

      David, well said. Been trying to say the same thing for 2 days(see posts). These people are so convinced they know everything. I feel I am to stop trying to tell them other possible views. Something about casting pearls… God bless you.

    • Gene

      Well said David! Thank you. I cannot believe what I am reading here. It makes me sad to see such a blatant display of lack of love amongst those who call themselves Christians. It is also very scarey to think about what may be coming down the road in terms of Christians persecuting one another. The groundwork appears to have been set for that when you read this comment stream.

  • Nelli

    I wonder why I don’t hear “Christians” saying anything about the Muslims.

  • I was a former Roman Catholic and I have experienced the difference when I personally met Christ for myself.

  • Revelation 2:9

    pope Francis..who is your sugardaddy?

    Excerpt from article,

    Pope wishes Jews sweet new year, pledges to ‘investigate’ Polish shechita [kosher slaughter] ban

    Sam Sokol – Jerusalem Post

    Sept. 2, 2013

    Pope Francis on Monday assigned a senior church official to investigate the current ban on Jewish and Muslim religious slaughter in Poland, where these practices have been illegal since January.

    After being appraised of the situation by World Jewish Congress President Ronald Lauder during a meeting held in his private office in the Vatican yesterday, the pope turned to Cardinal Kurt Koch, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity as well as the Vatican’s Commission for Relations with the Jews, to take responsibility for the matter.

    According to the WJC, a follow- up meeting with Koch may be scheduled for “as early as next week,” although it may be pushed off due to the upcoming High Holy Days. Lauder explained to the pope that although he is personally not observant, allowing ritual slaughter is important for the continuing religious freedom of Polish Jewry.

    Polish Chief Rabbi Michael Schudrich expressed gratitude for the pope’s decision to involve Koch in the ongoing debate over Kosher slaughter, telling The Jerusalem Post that “anyone who supports shechita anywhere in the world is something that is very welcome and encouraging and especially coming from the pope, it really gives us encouragement that together with the Polish government we will find a wise and quick solution.”

    The Jewish community of Poland filed a lawsuit with the country’s Constitutional High Court to lift the ban on shechita, asserting that the law violates a 1997 statute granting permission for Polish Jews to slaughter according to tradition …

    The pope also reiterated a statement he made earlier this year that “a Christian cannot be an anti-Semite” and told the Jewish delegates that “to be good a Christian it is necessary to understand Jewish history and traditions.”

    Lauder, who was accompanied by several prominent WJC officials, presented the pope with a kiddush cup and a honey cake in honor of Rosh Hashana, which falls on Wednesday evening …

  • Revelation 2:9

    Why we are on the subject of the “pope”,my question to all you silly goyim is this,who really runs the vatican?

    Excerpt from article,
    Did the Papacy Violate Christian Ethics on the Issue of “Holocaust Denial”?

    By Paul Grubach

    According to a June 13, 2014 news report, Pope Francis claimed in an interview to a Spanish newspaper that “Holocaust Denial” is “madness.” This truly is a bizarre statement on the Pope’s part, because with regard to the traditional Holocaust story, the Papacy has a documented track record of piously promoting Holocaust falsehood, while the Holocaust Revisionists have promoted the truth. Hearwith:

    At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. Until 1990, a memorial plaque at Auschwitz read: “Four Million People Suffered and Died Here at the Hands of the Nazi Murderers Between the Years 1940 and 1945.” During a 1979 visit to the camp, Pope John Paul II stood before this memorial and blessed the alleged four million victims.

    In July 1990, the Polish government’s Auschwitz State Museum, along with Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust center, conceded that the four million figure was a gross exaggeration, and references to it were accordingly removed from the Auschwitz monument. Israeli and Polish officials then announced a tentative revised toll of about 1.1 million Auschwitz dead.

  • Mountain Saint

    When Yeshua returns, will He find faith on earth (Luke 18:8). No, not amongst the Pentecostals and Charismatics…There was a prophecy a long time ago that the Charismatics would BE the first to join the demonic one-world religion…How can Copeland reconciLiate with the Marian religion which is paganistic at best and responsible for the killing of millions of martyrs in the past and in the future (Revelation 17:6)…True Christianity is not a religion, It is a relationship with Yeshua…Instead of joining a spiritually-dead religion, people should be fleeing the churches and worshipping Yeshua, not Mary, Allah or any other created being.

    • Brenda Murphy

      Better watch what you say about the Pentecostals….you know nothing about them, only what you hear from other denominations about them…….just a word of warning.

      You will be judged by every word you speak, Jesus said!

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  • suez

    @Mountain Saint, So who gave the prophecy? Most people that claim they prophecy are Pentecostal’s or Charismatic’s!!! LOL 🙂 Never heard of any Baptist or Lutheran etc. prophesying. I got Born Again in the Charismatic movement of the 1970’s. At that time it God was truly moving by his spirit in people. Now, many Charismatic’s and Pentecostals are getting really off, in all the signs and wonders movement, which isn’t of God at all. But, so are other denominations getting off and away from the true word of God!!! Do I think God can do supernatural things now days?,,, of coarse, but not like some of these people are saying and doing, 95% of it isn’t of God! But, please don’t throw everyone in with the same crowd. I believe in the Pentecostal experience of Acts. But, I surely do NOT believe in all of this garblely goop that is invading the church world now-days. There is tares among the Wheat, in every denomination, so lets not just label Pentecostals as the only ones who are, or can be off on things. Many are like me. I don’t follow the likes of the Copeland’s, Benny Hinns, Joyce Meyers and the rest of that crowd, and other False prophets. I follow the Bible and the Holy Spirit of God. So please be careful of putting labels on everyone. Thanks, 🙂

  • suez

    Anyone who likes Copeland and Kenneth and thinks they are of God, needs to see this viedo…This shows how denomic they truly are. I pray you will at least watch this all the way through, then make up your own mind. But please WATCH!!! If you care for your soul! Do not be deceived!!!! http://youtu.be/jdzSseghu58

    • suez

      Oh, sorry, I forgot to click spell check. I do recognize a couple miss-spelled words. I do so apologize!

      • NanaJ

        Thank you, Suez. I hope that many view that video. I am sorry to say that when my children were young, for a couple of years, we went to a church formed by Vicki Jamison’s brother. He was a graduate of Rhema, and at that time, the course was about a year long or thereabouts. He taught positive confession, word of faith, etc…all from the spewing of Kenneth Hagin. I have seen the results of this first hand. People are so wanting to see signs and wonders that they are led astray very easily. Thankfully, we got away from this, as we saw the deception. Thank God for that. The people who follow Kenneth Copeland and the others are like robots under his power. You cannot talk to them and be listened to. They are headed in the wrong direction; but they think that we are wrong. He has truly blinded people, and it’s a shame. I pray that their eyes are opened.

        • suez

          @NanaJ Thank you for watching it, and responding to me. I am so thankful at least one person cared enough to watch it. Praise God for bringing you out of that garbage!!! It is sad to think most won’t even bother to watch…:( If they would, they could easily see the demonic evil that resides in these people! But, sadly some people would rather wallow in their false beliefs, than to let the truth of the Holy Spirit, shine upon them! 🙁

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