Pope Francis Has Catholic Church On Verge Of Civil War Over LGBT Inclusion

The three-week Vatican gathering, known as a synod, has erupted into a theological slugfest over Pope Francis vision for a more inclusive church, displaying the most bitter and public...

Vatican meeting reveals growing Catholic divide over divorce and homosexuality

“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9  (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: The Vatican has long said that the Catholic Church “never changes”, but guess what? It is in the death throes of a cataclysmic change at this very moment. Just as Obama made homosexuality and the LGBT Agenda an evil ordinance of the United States, so Pope Francis is attempting to wreak that same unGodly havoc upon the already Godless Catholic church corporation. The ensuing war is splitting the Catholic church right down the middle. Mark it down, there will be blood.

At one point during a major summit of the Roman Catholic hierarchy that ends this weekend, a senior conservative bishop took the floor inside the Vatican’s assembly hall and promptly charged his liberal peers with doing the devil’s work.

The three-week gathering, known as a synod, has erupted into a theological slugfest over Pope Francis’s vision for a more inclusive church, displaying the most bitter and public infighting since the heady days of Catholic reform in the 1960s.


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Archbishop Tomash Peta of Kazakhstan captured the intensity of the divide, raising eyebrows — and even a few incredulous laughs — as he decried some of the policy changes being floated at the synod as having the scent of “infernal smoke.”

It was just another day at a synod that — more than any single event since Francis began his papacy in 2013 — has highlighted the extent his outreach to once-scorned Catholics has triggered a tug-of-war for the soul of the Catholic Church. More important, it underscored just how hard it may be for Francis to recast the church he serves in his image.

In fact, the pushback by traditionalists has been so strong at the synod that the chances of fast changes on hot-button family issues — including whether to offer communion to divorced and remarried Catholics and more welcoming language to homosexuals — have substantially dimmed, if not gone completely out.

As the synod races towards a close, there has been a last-ditch push to find common ground that could at least open the door to policy alterations. But some observers are already comparing Pope Francis to President Obama — a man whose reformist agenda was bogged down by a conservative Congress.

“Francis has the same problem that Obama had,” said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior analyst for the National Catholic Reporter. “He promised the world, but Congress wouldn’t let him deliver. If nothing much comes of this synod, I think people will give the pope a pass and blame the bishops for stopping change.”

For Francis, the synod — the Vatican’s second in 12 months on issues related to the family — sets up perhaps the most important decision of his papacy.

The 270 senior church officials from 122 countries are set to finish voting on a final document by Saturday. But Francis has the final say, holding the power to simply accept the synod’s recommendations, go beyond them, or withhold judgment to encourage further debate. All of those avenues, however, carry a measure of risk.

Using his powers to go beyond the synod’s recommendations could rouse the wrath of conservatives, some of whom are already openly questioning the trajectory of his papacy. Yet if the final recommendation of the synod falls short of liberal hopes, simply rubber stamping it, or encouraging more debate, could generate disappointment among Francis’s fans worldwide. They may begin to see him as a revolutionary in gestures and words, but not on substance.


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If he agrees fully with the synod’s recommendations, “there might be a collapse of his popularity in world public opinion, but there might also be an increase of his popularity among Catholics,” said Massimo Franco, author of The Crisis of the Vatican Empire and a columnist at the Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

Even by Vatican standards, the level of drama at the synod has been extraordinary.

As recently as Wednesday, the Vatican strenuously denied a report in the Italian press that Francis had a small brain tumor. That came after the synod started off with a bang in early October, when another leak in the Italian press brought to light a letter to the pope signed by 13 conservative cardinals — including Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York — that seemed to question the pope’s handling of the synod process.

Adding to the mystery, some of the 13 denied they had signed the letter. Some Vatican watchers saw Francis’s recent warning to the synod not to be taken in by conspiracy theories as a thinly veiled reference to the missive. To some senior Vatican officials, the letter appears close to open sedition.

“The widespread opinion I perceived among the fathers has been a sense of disgust,” Bishop Marcello Semeraro, one of the senior clerics who will draft the final synod document, told the Vatican Insider web site.

Yet by telling bishops that nothing is off the table for discussion, Francis has undoubtedly lifted the lid on what can be examined — including his management style. Conservatives bishops, however, see him as having also opened a Pandora’s box, allowing a free flow of ideas that have startled some traditionalists and provoked a sharp backlash.

Of the many issues under debate here, two have emerged as the most polemic.

One is whether to grant divorced and remarried Catholics — who are technically committing adultery in the church’s eyes — access to communion. In addition, there is the question of whether to offer a warmer welcome to gays and lesbians, including striking references to homosexuality as “intrinsically disordered” from church teachings.

The divide is not just liberal vs conservative, but also geographic with prelates in Africa, for instance, denouncing the “Eurocentric” and “Western” fixation with issues such as homosexuality. Guinean Cardinal Robert Sarah linked the push for gay rights to abortion and Islamic extremism, comparing them all to what “Nazi-Fascism and Communism were in the 20th century.”

The vehemence of the backlash has shocked even some moderate conservatives, suggesting the rise of a Tea Party-like faction of bishops within the hierarchy.

“Some of them are talking now like this is Armageddon,” Archbishop Mark Coleridge of Brisbane, Australia, said in an interview with The Washington Post.

“They see themselves as the sons of goodness and others as the sons of darkness and evil. I have been very surprised by this apocalyptic view of things at the synod . . . This isn’t the way discussions are done,” he added.

The sniping has gone surprisingly public — and personal. The powerful conservative Cardinal George Pell, for instance, suggested in an interview with Le Figaro that an epic “battle” was taking shape in the church between the conservative theology of Benedict XVI and the liberal German Cardinal Walter Kasper, who is seen as a Francis ally and the architect of some of the most progressive measures being fielded at the synod.

Pell’s comment provoked a rare public rebuke this week from the German Cardinal Reinhard Marx, who called out Pell by name at a Vatican press conference.

“In the synod, we are not in a battle. We are not Ratzinger vs. Kasper,” Marx said, using Pope Benedict’s birth surname.“That is not okay.”

The plot thickened further on Thursday as an article appeared on a conservative Catholic Web site claiming to be from “ a very wise, knowledgeable and highly influential cleric” and entitled “The Failed Francis Pontificate.”

In it, the author writing under the pen name Don Pio Pace and using insider terminology, argues that the divided church is now “intrinsically ungovernable” and decried this “strange synod” for being overwhelming focused on “adulterous couples and homosexual couples.”

Some have also denounced the general sense of chauvinism hanging over the debates in which only male clerics have voting rights.

Maureen Kelleher, an American nun serving in one of the non-voting roles at synod, told the National Catholic Reporter that there were “times that I have felt the condescension so heavy, you could cut it with a knife.”

Speaking of women in general, she added: “I see a high level of non-acceptance of us as holding up half the sky.” source

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  • Suzanne

    I am glad I left the Roman Catholic Church, to follow Jesus who is the same Yesterday,Today and Forever!!!!
    In Malachi3 God says I do not change!
    There you have it!
    They are trying to change laws of God!
    Woe to them!
    Get out of her, my people, unless you want to share in her sins, says the Lord!
    Run from Mystery Babylon, and don’t look back, look up!!!

    • Dwight

      Praise God that His Holy Spirit reached you and that you made the BEST choice to connect with Jesus in a personal relationship. Pray to no end that the same will take place for ALL lost souls that are still in the dark and enslaved to self and the lies of the devil. JOHN 8:51

    • edwitness

      Amen Suzanne.
      I love reading about those who have broken free from the bondages that come from false religion. What a blessing your comment is. Thank you.

    • Guns N Rosaries

      It wasn’t the Catholic Church you left but rather, the Novus Ordo, which arose after the infiltration of freemasons, communists, satanists, and homosexuals into the hierarchy. The 2nd Vatican Council, an apostate robbers council, then instituted protestant and masonic changes to the visible practices, i.e. new “sacraments,” “rites,” etc.

      The Catholic Church is no longer Roman, obviously, and the traditional Catholic faithful are now found in a remnant of true believers.

      You quoted Hebrews 13 v 8, but you fail to understand or realize that only the Catholic Church and the faith of Jesus Christ which it holds dearly, meet the criteria of Hebrews 13 v 8. Look at the institution of religion by God through Moses in the Old Testament……then review the material at Most Holy Family Monastery dot com.
      Protestantism has only existed for 500 years, so obviously all protestant sects are false, man-made, and of the devil. The true Church cannot be invisible, as Matthew 5 v 14 would then be in error. Constantine could NOT have overcome the Holy Ghost, so obviously Constantine could not found his own “church.” Ephesians 4 v 5: “One Lord, one faith, one baptism,” and by logical extension, one Church, one set of doctrine(s), and hierarchy, one tradition, one Apostolic lineage…….are you beginning to see what I am getting at?

  • Joseph D’Hippolito

    “It is in the death throes of a cataclysmic change at this very moment.”

    Geoffrey, you are so right! Most Catholics will deny that fact because of the way they interpret Jesus’ words to Peter (“You are rock…I give you the keys of the kingdom.”) as referring to the institutional church and apostolic succession. Not only is that interpretation dead wrong, but the ecclesiology it produces is imploding before our very eyes.

    Francis isn’t the only modern Pope engaged in theological revisionism. John Paul II arbitrarily changed Catholic teaching on capital punishment to reflect his abolitionist views — despite centuries of previous teaching from both Scripture and Doctors of the Church (Aquinas, Augustine):


    I left the Catholic Church because its moral compass is shattered beyond repair. It long ago sacrificed its spiritual patrimony on the altar of wealth, power, political influence, secular prestige and institutional arrogance. It has encouraged a kind of caste system in which the bishops lord it over the laity and clergy. It’s a religion of, by and for the bishops — the laity and clergy be damned, let alone the Triune God.

    • In 1990, I left the Catholic church and became a Christian. I traded in my “magic cookie” and “holy wine” for the Living Bread from Heaven, Jesus Christ. I gave up man-made “sacraments” and became BORN AGAIN as Jesus commands in John 3:3. Best decision I ever made. Thank God.

      Thanks for writing 🙂

      • James Of Nashville

        Geoffrey…then you have denied Sacred Scripture and voided Jesus’s commandment that you eat His Flesh and drink His Blood. Re read John Chapter 6 if you feel so inclined. I dare say you are amongst those disciples who leaves Jesus because His Words are hard John Chapter 6vs 66.

    • gumply

      I came out of the demonic institution called the Roman Catholic Church when I was 45 and haven’t looked back.

      I agree with you about Pope John Paul II. I actually have an article cut out of the Great Falls Tribune dated December 12, 1984 whereby he issues an edict to the billions of Catholics all over the world to confess their sins to a priest and not to God.

      I could fill several pages with the lies and deceit within the hierarchy but I will refrain but one thing I do know is that they (hierarchy are demonic.

  • Gerardo Rivera

    All of these people of the priesthood of the Catholic Church and none of them even gives an indication of saying “Hey, what would Jesus think about these issues?”, only using the rationale of “What do we think?” instead.

    Mark 10:1-9
    1And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan; 2And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.

    The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    Well, even though it was intended as a trap for Jesus, at least even the critical Pharisees had the sense to ask Jesus what he thinks. And the Catholic priesthood claims to be better than the Pharisees when they probably would crucify Jesus if they had the opportunity because Jesus would turn (and is turning) Catholics away from empty religion and into a relationship with him. What should have been a settled issue only becomes a hot button issue if…you are so far from Jesus, you don’t care what he has to say.

    • Joseph D’Hippolito

      “All of these people of the priesthood of the Catholic Church and none of them even gives an indication of saying ‘Hey, what would Jesus think about these issues’, only using the rationale of ‘What do we think?’ instead.”

      This is what happens when you substitute divine revelation for intellectual fashion. The former focuses on God and our response to Him. The latter focuses on Man and tends not to waver from that focus.

      “I actually have an article cut out of the Great Falls Tribune dated December 12, 1984 whereby he issues an edict to the billions of Catholics all over the world to confess their sins to a priest and not to God.”

      This is the logical consequence of a theology stating that a priest is a channel for God’s forgiveness. I can tell you from personal experience that many priests do not have a pastoral touch when it comes to suffering (Neither do many so-called “Christian” pastors). I am eternally grateful for the Letter to the Hebrews, which states that Jesus knows all of our pain and that through Him, we can come into the heavenly throne room at any time for help, grace, wisdom, even for confessing, as I John encourages.

  • Tusitala

    I read these reports about the Catholic church and I feel it is so long ago and so far away. It is very difficult for me to believe that I was ever so involved, so devout. Now, I look back in horror at the idolatry, the error, the absolute heresy, and I cringe, sometimes I cry. Dear Jesus, you are so patient with me, thank You. I wake up each morning free of all the lies, the rosaries, the novenas, the mass, the statues and relics, all the terrible weight of the abominations. I wake up and open my beautiful King James Bible and the Lord God speaks to me, to each of us. I hold that incredible book close to me and I think of all the men who died so that I could have the scriptures in my own language to read, to study, to enjoy. I never, ever have looked back once at Catholicism with any longing. Now I know Jesus, He lives in my heart, there is no one between me and Him, no Mary, no saints. I whisper my fears, my sins, my sorrows, my questions, I ask the Holy Spirit to help me, I look up to the Father and it is so intimate, yet there is such reverence, such holy Love. I pray each day that those enmeshed in that heretical system of lies and filth come out, come out of her, that they know what it is to be born again, to read the inerrant Word, and to know Jesus face to face.

  • Larry / vietnamvet1971

    as I see it, this should separate the Goats from Sheep and reveal the (IF) there are any True Christian Believers in that False Religious system to Stand up and COME OUT or they will Hunker down and Circle around their Evil leader and prove / show they are an Apostate / Heretical Bunch.

  • I love all these testimonies here I wrote a book called The Mask of Deception – Voodoo and How it Hides in a Well Known Religion. I hope it will set many free. The kindle version is already for sale on amazon if you are interested in reading it, but more than anything I would love all of the testimonies on here of former catholics for my website testimonial area. anyone interested I can send a free copy of my book with the agreement they will allow me to post their testimony on my site http://www.themaskofdeception.org just contact me through the website contact me button area. GOD BLESS!

    • Tusitala

      I have a very good friend who is Haitian, she is a Roman Catholic AND follows Voudou. All the Voudoun gods and goddesses have counterparts in the Catholic “saints”, as you well know the syncretism is profound. God bless you, there is a real need for a book like this, when I heard about the ceremonies and seances she attends I was heartsick for her. They also have these terrible curses they place on those who anger them. Dear heaven, what evil, and she sees nothing wrong with it because it is absolutely endemic in their culture and spiritual practices, and the Catholic church celebrates the mixture of their faiths. People do not fully realize the horrible abominations in the Catholic “church”, they really do not.

  • Lee

    I am sure it is difficult for most Catholics to face the thought of leaving their church. The church has instilled into their mind that the Catholic church is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH. They grew up with this, or accepted it fully when they converted to the Catholic church. If have a friend who IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, left the Baptist church to become a Catholic. I believe she based this on the love for Mary. The guilt is more than some of them can take and they probably feel they are condemned to hell if they leave.

    If they would just read the Bible and see that NO MAN is above Our Lord. Their worship of the Pope is unbelievable. And, praying to Mary for help?? What is that all about?

    We need to pray for those who might now question the Catholic church and leave it.

    • Amen Lee, may God give them strength and support !

    • Tusitala

      Reading the King James Bible is the key to opening the lock that the Roman church has on people’s hearts and souls. Amen !

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  • Jamie

    Tusatala – what a beautiful message! It brought tears to my eyes, and made me so grateful that our Lord and Savior has rescued you from a system that no longer holds you in its grip. I thank our heavenly Father every day for Jesus, and His Word. We are so blessed not to be trapped by the bondage of Catholicism. A miracle in itself, for sure.
    God bless you!

    • Tusitala

      Thank you for your kind words and God bless you as well. I never cease to thank Jesus for His patience, He is love itself.

  • CrissCross

    Speaking the Truth Is Now a Revolutionary Act Filled With Deadly Consequences! 🙁

  • After 40 years in the Catholic church (several churches, several states, every Sunday), God has delivered me and led me to a biblical church.

    I have heard Catholic priests from the pulpit say that this-or-that in the Bible may not be true. Sermons are never constructed on a biblical framework, and sidestep any mighty central biblical truths from the scripture readings in favor of lesser matters.

    I have never heard a Catholic sermon about the Cross / atonement, the Word of God, relationship with God / walking with God, the Holy Spirit, worship (singing), prayer (biblical),the joy of the Lord, or evangelism.

    The Catholic system seems to be a racket in which people are kept in the dark, unfed, weak and captive, fearfully repeating impersonal prayers and rituals. May God set them free! If priests are neither succeeding nor apparently trying to fulfill the biblical mandate to evangelize and teach the Word, what is their aim? When incompetence is widespread and institutional, I must conclude that it is deliberate, and shudder to think what and who is behind it.

    The final straw for me is the current pro-evolution, in-mosque-praying, homosexuality-tolerating, anti-national-sovereignty, anti-free-speech, anti-free-enterprise, anti-firearms, pro-charity-by-government-confiscation-and-redistribution, global-warming-hoax-and-government-control-promoting, Palestinian-terrorist-state-recognizing, anti-air-conditioning Pope.

  • Tammy

    amazing stories of awakening! I am so thankful for this site and all the ppl that take the time to share truth and pure passion on a regular basis. I know I have been fed heaping spoonfuls of encouragement and truth many many times here when the world I live in hurls daily despair upon me and my children. I am certain many other weary souls are finding the same comfort and hope in the beacon of light shed from here into this dark world. thank you all so very much!

    • Tusitala

      May God bless you and your children abundantly.


  • crimson

    This may well be GODS’ last call for people still bound by demonic queen of satan church & it’s false teachings and “tradition” to “Come OUT”! If they are truly upset with his hellishness,the pope because Sodomites are OK, abortion OK (just pay an indulgence fee & get a writ from your bishop) to continue in the sins in the RCC they will OBEY and HEED GODS’ warning to come out OR stay in the beastly system & face the consequences of disobedience. 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

    WARNING WARNING – Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

  • James Peterson

    I left the catholic church to become a real christian because of this apostate pope. Seems like this pope is in bed with everyone except for God.

  • William

    JUDAS ISCARIOT is alive and preaching from the pulpit of many American Churches. The Church is being eaten away from the inside.
    “Every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is the spirit of Antichrist. He is the spirit of Antichrist who denies that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah.” — (I John 2:22; 4:3)

    Any “teacher” who diverts Christians into bowing to the Jewish Temple Priests is a JudasGoat “kissing the cheek” of Christ through HIS Flock, for pieces of silver or foul reasons.
    He who blesses Israel Crucifies Christ.
    CHRISTians should welcome any Jew that comes to Jesus.
    CHRISTians cannot support or aid Israel or the Jewish Nation that DENIES the Lamb of God.
    OLD testament / NEW testament
    WAR god / PEACE god
    OLD covenant / NEW covenant
    “The new is in the old concealed, the old is in the new revealed.”
    The ESSENCE of Judaism is VENGEANCE
    ANTI: a prefix meaning “against,” “opposite of,” “antiparticle of,” used in the formation of compound words (anticline); used freely in combination with elements of any origin (antibody; antifreeze; antiknock;;;; ANTICHRIST).
    “judeo-christian” or “christian-zionism” is an OXYMORON. “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.” Matthew 6:24
    Judeo refuses to even ACKNOWLEDGE CHRIST. Judeo refuses to acknowledge Jesus except to INSULT him and HIS teachings in the NEW Testament. They claim Jesus was the bastard child of a Roman soldier and Mary was a Harlot ……. and “christian” preachers CONDONE this?!?
    The LAMB of GOD was the FINAL sacrifice. Rebuilding the Jewish Temple and resuming bloody animal sacrifices repudiates the Crucifixion, the SACRIFICE of Jesus,the NEW Covenant. God chose JESUS CHRIST as His vehicle for world redemption.
    “This is my blood of the covenant….” (Matthew 26:28)
    “This is my blood of the covenant….” (Mark 14:24)
    “This cup is the new covenant in my blood….” (Luke 22:20)
    “This cup is the new covenant in my blood….” (1 Corinthians 11:25)
    The NEW Covenant replaced the OLD broken covenant.

  • Prophet of Tarshish

    YHWH Elohim will rain down judgement upon Earth as He did in the days of Noah and Lot. Humanity crossed the final red line steeped in their own sexual immorality. Soon the reprobate culture will experience YHWH’s anger which will not be quenched until they are utterly brought to destruction for their trespasses against Him and the natural order He created for human kind. They praise Him with their lips but their hearts are far from Elohim. Reprobates! Reprobates! In the coming days they will seek strange flesh but will only find darkness and despair. Many will take their own lives and go down into Sheol where there will be unquenchable thirst and the withering away of the tongue. It has been determined. So be it.

  • Jay

    Roman Catholicism never has had anything whatsoever to do with Christianity. The closest it got was when it was murdering the saints and stamping out the early Churches. Roman Catholicism and the Pope have murdered more Christians than Islam and communism combined while attempting to keep the scriptures from the people so it could continue the pagan idolatry of Pope worship and praying to Mary instead of Jesus.

  • Bill

    Now all you Cardinals that are conservative and who seem to understand what Il Pape is doing repeat after me, Pope Francis is just like Obama the sodomite and besides him being a filthy pervert he is also a filthy Islamic terrorist. now keep repeating this and tell Il pape he must step down and he must be replaced. the sodomite obama and Francis have a deal going on under the table which must be brought to the surface so the people in the U.S. can clearly see who they voted for.

  • Andrea Reames

    This pope has nothing to do with Christianity. He was chosen and put into power because he is weak and a follower of the NWO. He has had people killed for infringing on his drug territory in Argentina and worse. The entire Catholic Church has been taken over by Luciferians and occultists. Get ready people, the new world order is here and it’s in your church.

  • So … Let me get this straight … The Roman Catholic Church … The ONE Denomination who has the MOST Gay Priest and Lesbian Nuns than any other denomination or Non-denomination in this world of our is on the verge of a Civil War because its Pope Francis is now giving them his holy sanction for Homosexualism within his church that will give those gay priest and lesbian Nuns the right to continue in their mortal sins by including the LGBT into the church ??? … I guess in that sense of the word, This Cotton Pickin Pope is dang if he DOES and dang if he DON’T, huh ??? … Poor, Poor Thang … He Can’t Win For Losing with this cotton pickin messed up church, huh ???


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