Joel Osteen Facebook Post Reveals Horrific Lack Of Knowledge Of Scripture

A post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.” As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares. It has since been deleted by the Osteen camp.
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Pastor of America’s largest church has no understanding of the holy bible

“The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?” Jeremiah 5:31

Mega-church pastor Joel Osteen may lead the largest Protestant church in the United States, but a recent Facebook post shows he might need to go back to Sunday school.

A Monday post to his verified Facebook page last year, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.” As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares. It has since been deleted by the Osteen camp.

There’s just one problem: According to the Bible, Moses was dead before Joshua asked God to stop the setting of the sun, and long before the three Hebrew youths were thrown into the furnace. Yikes!

The Old Testament Book of Joshua explains that God appointed Joshua as Moses’s successor after Moses’s death (the first sentence literally begins, “Now after the death of Moses…”), who led the Israelites into battle against the Amorites, during which he commanded the sun and the moon not to move. “And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.” Joshua 10:13

The story of the the three Hebrew youths is told in the Old Testament Book of Daniel. According to the passage, the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, who reigned around the 6th century B.C. (long, long after the projected time of Moses), ordered his people to worship a large golden idol, “And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.” (Daniel 3:6). The three Hebrew youths refused to worship the idol and were thrown into the furnace, but were not burned because Jesus showed up.

This passage is particularly important because it is understood to prefigure Christ — when the king asked whether the three were burned, one of his counselors replied “He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.” Daniel 3:25

 

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • DB

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    lol

    I’ve encountered similar ignorance in the comments here.

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    • Right😂😂

      • DB

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        A poster here said Edom was totally destroyed in 606BC

        Which is interesting considering 1 Esdras 4:45 says Edom burned the temple when Babylon conquered Jerusalem. Psalm 137 says Edom destroyed it down to the very foundation. And Josephus said Edom “converted” to being “jews” in the 2nd century BC.

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        • carrierwave

          Josephus made lots of mistakes in his journalism. Not a very good source to prove doctrine

          • DB

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            Josephus lived in the first century AD.

            But 2000 years later… people are so much smarter… or so they think.

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      • Roger

        He knows how to be noncompliant with the 10 commandments. Lies & deceit is his Motis Operandi as he bilks mega millions from his flock dancing all the way to the banks with their money. You can fool some of the people…..His knowledge of scripture really doesn’t matter to his “sheep” as they will believe anything this snake oil salesman has to say!

    • My wife and I have been to 5 different countries, 4 times to Honduras to help Missionaries by building, welding and electrical and putting in showers, just general work the missionaries either can’t do or don’t have time to do. Its been a wonderful experience. We were in Papua New Guinea for – just short – of 18 months. Each time we arrived back home it seemed that everyone was in an insane hurry, impatient and huffy. Lots of “blank” faces. Every place we’ve been there has been unspeakable poverty and hardship. We spent time on a large garbage dump handing out christmas presents to about 8 families LIVING ON THE DUMP. There were those who looked for anything they could eat that had been thrown away and taken to the dump. But, Joel lives in a mansion that appears to me to have cost at least 10 million $$$$$$$$. I’ve listened to him on TV and it just seems he wants to woo the audience and collect their money. I think he would do better if he put on a pair of overalls and go to Bolivia and herd goats for about a year or two and scrape for food the way people in that part of the world have to. I feel that his herding goats would give him time to contemplate the beauty of the Andes Mountains, their steepness, and how to rescue a goat and learn about their bullying nature. Then perhaps he would appreciate more the herding of sheep, and the difference between a “Born Again Sinner” and start preaching the pure Gospel. Carrying a Bible with him while “herding” would give him time to learn something, like the difference between Sheep and goats.

      • vicki bfly

        God Bless you Brother Burke for being true to the Lord’s calling in your life. So, now, we can either bash Joel Osteen, or we can pray that he gets an encounter with the Almighty True and Living God that will fell him off his pedestal, and back on his knees, and point his face in the right direction back to God…. This is so important to note, because it is an example of what we are seeing has become of our Pastors in these end times; where preachers want to be a star! It’s the Hollywood “christian” hour playing in a church near you….. they re playing church, where everyone is so pretty, and no one is really alive….and they think that will pacify the Lion of Judah! There is the Fire of Revival wose embers are flaming up now; the Fire of Repentance, the Fire of Redemption of the True and Living God that is rearing up and will take off like a Wild Fire, the Roarong of the Lion of Judah; a Consuming Fire, devouring everything in it’s path; burnishing the Saints; burning through the Souls of the wicked! This is all over the globe: Revival as has never been seen by Mankind; because it is Harvest Time Right Now, so take your eyes off of one another, my People, and put them on Me, I am your Salvation; I am your Source. I am your Hope and the Truth. Get up Get up and move in my direction. Listen to my Spirit direct you on your Path. Obey my Commandments, as there is very little time left. Do what I have called you to do,and nothing else; and I will make your path straight, and I will meet your needs! Thus says the Spirit of the I Am, the Way the Truth and the Life, the Lord Jesus. Glory to God!

  • SMH.,,,he needs to not only go to Sunday school he also need to read the Holy Bible

    • Vinny

      Geneva Bible would do best!

      • @Vinny- I have the Geneva Bible as well as the KJV. I like the Geneva and believe it was made from true texts and with good intentions, however, it has some basic errors that prevent from being as good as the KJV.

        • Smoky

          @Articfarmer: What would those errors be? And we all need to have more than one example please.

          Remember we are told to be as Bereans and to check every word:

          “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
          Acts 17:11

          • It contradicts itself when in one of the Psalms it says that God made man “a little lower than God”. But in Hebrews, it refers back to that Psalm and says God made man a little lower than the angels, which is what the KJV says.

            It also uses love instead of charity in 1 Corinthians 13. Though it is true that love and charity are nearly the same thing, I think that charity is a better word in that context. There is a reason there are KJV only churches today and not Geneva Bible only churches.

    • Gary

      Sabbath school not Sunday…..Jesus is Lord of Sabbath (saturday)

  • What a shame… He may as well talk about “Hans and Gretel” fairy tale.

    • @Jeffrey Joseph- Jesus is the true name. Maybe you should keep your Satan-inspired thoughts to yourself.

      • Todd

        Nkt too bright articfarmer! Your an uneducated fool!

        • Stop all this Bible analyzing, live a good life, be kind to your fellow man…..face reality…ignore fairy tales. There is no Old Man in the Sky.

          • Adl84

            Amen to that! 🙂

    • Todd

      Jesus is NOT our saviors name IT’S Yeshua! Jesus is a Greek name and our savior was a hebrew! And the letter J doesn’t exist in the Hebrew alphabet! Duh! Satan’s greatest deception!

      • Yes, Jesus IS a Greek name and a perfect one to go with a New Testament written in Greek 🙂 Show me ONE place in the Bible where Christians are commanded to speak Hebrew.

        • Laura Marie

          So are we to call him Jesus or ? I’m confused the more I’m learning the more I realize how much I need to learn lol

        • Rowley

          Geoffrey, we both know that the name “Jesus” only came about with the KJV Bible (400 odd years ago).
          Before the KJV Bible it was Iesous, which came from Constantine who probably got it from his god Zeus.

          What a weak excuse you use to say that you cannot pronounce Yahuweh because it is a Hebrew name – tell that to the Messiah at the judgment!
          Regarding the name of the Messiah and the Elohim of the Bible, He is a Holy Father, a righteous Father.
          You can call him whatever name you like, but know there is a ‘payday’ coming.
          Using some pagan name for the Elohim of the Bible is breaking the third commandment, which says, “You shall not bring the Name of Yahuweh your Elohim to nothingness”.
          Rejecting the use of His Name is definitely bringing it to nothingness.
          We honour Him by saying it correctly with reverence, love, respect, and FEAR.
          We must “fear His Name”.

          In Hosea 2:13-23, we see that for those who do not know His correct Hebrew Name, He will “take the names of Baal out of our mouth”.
          That is– when He comes and restores all things, in the Kingdom.
          The martyrs that are dying now for the name of Jesus, will rule and reign with Him—Revelation 20:1-6.
          If our heart is pure towards Him, and we are obedient to what we know, He will lead us further into all Truth by His Spirit!
          But, to purposely reject the use of Messiah’s family name is to cut off the connection with Messiah and His Father.
          The word “God” comes from “Gawd”, which is a pagan god.
          “God” is also a generic term, and could mean “Krishna, Allah, or Lucifer”.
          Father leads honest seekers. Lucifer leads dishonest ones.

          A Hebrew name means something. It identifies a person. Our Saviour’s Name Yahushua means: “I Am Salvation”, from His Father’s Name Yahueh which means: “I AM the Ever-existing One who breathes.” Thus we have a Father and a Son.
          In Zechariah 3:2, we see that Yahuweh uses His own Name twice in rebuking Satan –for it is the most powerful Name in the universe.
          Of course, His enemies are determined to rid themselves of it from planet earth, and His “bands”—His Torah—as stated in Psalm 2.

          In Joel 2:32 the prophet tell us in the last days to call on the name of Yahuweh. Not lord, as in Hebrew this means baal – a pagan god.
          For Paul followers – Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Yahuweh shall be saved.”
          Lord is another name change by Constantine and the catholic church – all paganism.

          In Jn 5:43 the Messiah says: “ I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.”
          The Father’s name is YAHUWEH, YAH being the common denominator.
          Christians follow the second part of this verse.

          Jn 10:30 “I and the Father are One.”
          Jn 6:39; 40; 44; 45 and 54 tells us that no one can come to the Messiah unless drawn by the Father.
          If you are preaching and no one is interested and think you are wasting your time preaching, you are possibly correct, those people are not being ‘drawn by the Father.”
          As also indicated by what the Messiah said in Matt 10:5-15.
          His “sheep know Him” as in Jn 10:4-29.
          Those drawn by the Father are obedient and trust Him, not dissenters, the proud, sinners, hard hearts or arrogant heads (1 Cor 6:9-10).

          “Yeshua” is a word for “salvation” –and that is what He is and describes what He has done for us–but it is not His Name.
          Our earthly father’s name identifies us as to what lineage we are from.
          The “family” name from our Father is very important.

          Blessings

          • Steve

            There is no such things as OTHER GODS!! When Christians say God, they are referring to Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Issac , and Jacob. If there are other Gods, that would be God (YAH) himself created them, since he created everything. “Krishna, Allah, or vishnu are all just mad man idols, BUT ARE NOT GODS”.

            Dont be obsessed with the name and be a sacred name nut, but focus on the character of who God is. As for Jesus vs Yahushah, we are just stuck with the name Jesus until he returns and straighten everything out. Its an extremely poor transliteration form Yahushah -> Ioesus -> Jesus and should technically be Joshua in English, but no where in the Torah does it say its a sin to transliterate a name.

          • anna peterman

            Shalom Rowley… Every word you have written has been like healing balm…. after reading all those disrespectful statements of so-called “Believers” even of this man: Geoffrey Grider who has a large ministry: “Now the End Begins”… and who preaches to untold thousands of people… but has no FEAR of his Elohim”God” who thinks that this mighty Creator – this EL SHADDAI – should come down to “his” level and speak the language that HE speaks – instead of him in FEAR and deep RESPECT come to HIM and LEARN HOW TO PRONOUNCE THIS MIGHTY AND AWESOME NAME…. (which is CERTAINLY NOT A TITLE)… You are so completely correct.. These people seem to have NO CLUE that they are BREAKING THE THIRD COMMANDMENT… and why should they… They ALSO DO NOT CARE THAT THEY COMPLETELY THREW OUT THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT…. (THE SABBATH) – THEY PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH COMMANDMENTS AND WHICH LAWS FROM THE MIGHTY WORD (THAT THEY SAY THEY BELIEVE)… THEY WANT TO KEEP… and again… Do NOT SEEM TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS MAKING UP THEIR OWN “TRADITIONS OF MEN” – AFTER THE “IMAGINATIONS OF THEIR OWN WICKED AND DECEITFUL HEARTS”….
            NO… IT “NEVER”… EVER… MEANS THEM….. (I was not any better – before the unending grace and mercy of our Father rescued me OUT of Babylon… as a matter of fact… I was ONE OF THE WORST) …It has now been almost 5 years that he has opened my Blind Eyes… after 34 years in the Christian Church! It took deep Trauma and the Edge of Despair .. when I cried OUT to HIM… and… HE CAME…
            BUT..that has been the age-old problem already back in Elijah’s day… when he had it out with the prophets of BAAL… (same as today)… and if ANYBODY IS AWAKE ENOUGH TODAY… and has ALLOWED THE HOLY SPIRIT OF ELOHIM TO BREAK THEIR PRISON CHAINS…. they can see that the BATTLE was NOT between the Names of: BAAL and: “LORD”.. (since they are BOTH THE EXACT SAME NAMES)….but between the “LORD” (who is BAAL) and: יהוה YAHUWAH -Creator of Heaven and Earth and all that there is – The BATTLE is between the ones that had been eating at the table of Jezebel – (EXACTLY THE SAME AS TODAY) …the False Religious System of BABYLON – and Those that are Drinking of her WINE… the POISONOUS GOLDEN CUP with which she makes ALL THE NATIONS DRUNK with her FALSE DOCTRINES
            1 Kings 18:
            NOTE: YOU WILL SEE FIRST THESE PROPHETS OF “BAAL” CALL ON THEIR “MIGHTY ONE” – because: “BAAL” – IS a “mighty one”… that יהוה YAHUWAH told us NOT to WORSHIP – because he is a DEMON
            1 Kings 18:25 – And Ěliyahu said to the prophets of Ba‛al, “Choose one bull for yourselves and prepare it first, for you are many. And call on the name of your mighty one, but set no fire.”
            26 – So they took the bull which was given them, and prepared it, and called on the name of Ba‛al from morning even until noon, saying, “O Ba‛al, answer us!” But there was no voice and no one answered. And they leaped about the altar which they had made.
            NOTE: THE ALTAR OF יהוה YAHUWAH WAS BROKEN DOWN – THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE THE EXACT SAME AS TODAY….
            1 Kings 18:30 – Then Ěliyahu said to all the people, “Come closer to me.” And all the people came closer to him. And he repaired the altar of יהוה YAHUWAH that was broken down.
            36 – And it came to be, at the time of bringing the evening offering, that Ěliyahu the prophet came near and said, “יהוה YAHUWAH Elohim of Aḇraham, Yitsḥaq, and Yisra’ĕl, let it be known today: You are Elohim in Yisra’ĕl, and I Your servant, have done all these matters by Your word.
            37 – “Answer me, O יהוה YAHUWAH, answer me, and let this people know that You are יהוה YAHUWAH Elohim, and You shall turn their hearts back to You again.”
            So.. I will leave you with this…
            The FATHER’s NAME is NOT “LORD”… (which means: 01168 Ba’al: Meaning: Baal = “lord” supreme male divinity of the Phoenicians or Canaanites)
            Jeremiah:23
            26-27 – “How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Indeed they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart, who try to make My people forget My NAME by their dreams which everyone tells his neighbor, as their fathers forgot My NAME for Baal.”(LORD)
            Jeremiah 9:
            3“And they bend their tongue like a bow. Falsehood, and not truth, prevails on the earth. For they proceed from evil to evil, and they have not known Me,” declares יהוה.
            6“You live in the midst of deceit; through deceit they have refused to know Me,” declares יהוה.
            14but they have walked according to the stubbornness of their own heart and after the Ba‛als, which their fathers had taught them.”
            sincerely.
            anna peterman

      • Charles Beams

        The sound of the name is unimportant. A name is in it’s meaning and the Lord’s is Jehovah has become salvation. (Same idea applies to Jehovah. The I AM.)

        • Susan

          Wow! “Unimportant” really? Considering we will give an account of every word we speak to the Creator, I would suggest that the correct name is quite important. Even how it’s pronounced.

    • Ummm, that was more than a mere mistake. Never mind all of Joel’s other lies.

  • Dan

    HORRIFIC is a little much wouldn’t you say NTEB ?

    • Smoky

      Michelle Ava Quiroz, if your job is to be a teacher you will be held to a much higher standard by God:

      “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
      Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
      From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
      Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.”
      1 Timothy 1:4-7

    • And I will ask God to forgive you for your foolish thinking. He has not lead people to the Lord, he has lead them to Satan and himself.

    • In the KJV Bible, which is the only Word of God in English, His name is Jesus. That is the only name we need to know Him by.

    • carrierwave

      ..”Thy WORD is magnified ABOVE ALL THY NAME”.

      God’s Word is above, even his name!

      But you are right, Olsteen is not to be trusted in his doctrine of salvation. GOOD WORKS do not save anyone.

  • James

    I don’t think it’s any different than when a pastor fails to edit himself when he tells the congregation how many animals were taken on the ark by Moses. A harmless statement.

    • DB

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      lol

      I wonder how many here know the number of animals…
      without a open book test.

      The book of Daniel is filled with prophecy, therefore
      more wide-read than some other books in the Bible…
      so one would think Osteen would be very familiar with
      it’s contents.

      Don’t all Christians know Daniel was taken into the
      Babylonian captivity and served kings in Babylon and
      in Persia ?

      This is an important lesson… to understand the Bible,
      one must know the history in which Bible events take place.

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    • Dan

      Exactly right to his huge bank account

  • guest

    Had I never heard of the timeline gaffe, Joel Olsteen’s strained smile would still remind me of Christian Bale in American Pscyho.

  • Hope

    Hey, hey, hey, lighten up. Even if it is not exactly scripturally accurate, the main point is right, isn’t it? That’s the new theology. Scripture is a nice little starting place for pastoral opinion to spring from. Take a little old Bible story, preferably out of context and then just spout whatever philosophy moves you and appeals to the audience. Don’t say the name of Jesus too much, that makes people uncomfortable. Talk about repentance but not about sin. Certainly never mention the Holy Spirit as a person in the Godhead and ridicule anyone who says God’s Holy Spirit speaks to him. If you want to be hip and happening, get with the program!

    • Seeingyou

      Ha! I see what you did there!

    • Sorry you are wrong. I trust the KJV Bible and what it calls Him. Sorry that you have no English documents to put your faith in. Must be depressing.

    • carrierwave

      “I am the Lord thy God, I CHANGE NOT.”

      “Forever O Lord, thy WORD is settled in heaven.”

      Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall NEVER pass away.”

  • LuHndez

    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Matthew 7:15

  • Donna

    It’s amazing how God is exposing Mr Osteen no knowledge of Scripture.

  • Kathleen McKeithen

    Of course, Joel Osteen does not use the Bible correctly. He obviously does not know or care what it says if he thinks Moses was alive to see all of the things he (Joel) listed.

    Joel Osteen is a type of prosperity “preacher”, he absolutely does not teach that all of us are lost sinners who must come to the Lord Jesus Christ to truly and sincerely repent before Him, receive His forgiveness and payment for our sins. He absolutely does not preach that, when we really do this, we are born again. We become new creatures in Christ. All the old things pass away and we, in fact, become transformed by the power of God and are sealed by the Holy Spirit. We begin to desire the things of God rather than the things of this world.

    Joel Osteen absolutely does not preach the Gospel of Salvation. He preaches “another gospel” which is to satisfy the flesh and be liked by everyone.

    2 Timothy Chapter 3 tells all about this and instructs us to “turn away” from such preachers/teachers, etc. These most surely are “perilous times.”

    • Seeingyou

      No you are not to judge. You are however called to point out those who are doing or teaching wrong.

    • You mean, a man who spreads Satan’s word? Or his own? Sorry that you are so deceived but Mr. Osteen is clearly not saved and will sadly spend his eternity in the lake of fire with Satan. I wish he would repent because I truly feel sorry that he will go there. This is how I feel about all those who do not repent and believe Jesus.

  • Bheki

    If I were to write a book about Joel Olsteen, it would be titled:
    “I wanna up-chuck now”.

  • Carol

    The Fake ones are being exposed! The ones that make a merchindise of you are being be exposed, the ones that don’t PREACH ON SIN are being EXPOSED! GOD is CLEANING HIS HOUSE!!!!! The ones that are saying they belong to him are really NOT HIS! God knows who they are that BELONG TO HIM. 🙂

  • PowderKeg

    Joel’s Dad has got to be rolling over in his grave….but that’s show business for the rest of the family!

    • Ellery Sam

      Im Native american and I totally agree with you on this. There is but One G-d and that’s of Israel.

    • Problem #1: You are using the ESV, which is not the true Word of God. Use only the KJV.

      Problem #2: Joel Osteen is not appointed by God, he is appointed by Satan and Satan is the one who he serves. Therefore, CHRISTians should not submit or listen to him.

      Problem #3: You are taking scripture very out of context.

    • That was not a mistake. Joel Osteen serves Satan, not God.

    • carrierwave

      “God hath chosen the base things of this world to confound the wise.” “The foolishness of God is wiser than men.”

      By the way, the pope is not the head of the Christian faith. lol! “YE DO ERR NOT KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES”.

    • Carol

      @ William Greenwood, JESUS CHRIST IS GREATER than any Scholar ALIVE OR DEAD! GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING ! as you will soon see. You will be sorry that YOU listened to the DEAD scholars , and the alive ones also, and NOT JESUS CHRIST. JESUS IS THE ONLY SCHOLAR NEEDED EVER!!! JESUS CHRIST is the GREATEST. HE is KING, LORD, SAVIOR. AMEN! COME JESUS COME. 🙂

      • Seeingyou

        The funny thing is, you can say the same about non Christians. There are many scholars who have supported and given proof of the Bible’s validity, but they don’t want to hear it. People don’t understand the Bible and therefore, would rather believe in the scientific versions of the Earth’s creation, no matter what evidence points to the spiritual. Each side has it’s arguments.

  • ShieldedMessenger

    What else do you expect from watered down happy, happy preachers such as Olsteen?

    • Seeingyou

      He claims Christianity, but is not. He has done many things against the Bible as well. ..

    • The Bible says to “judge righteously”. I believe it is either Proverbs 24 or 31. (I get the two similar passages mixed up). So you need to read the KJV Bible and see what God really says.

    • Carol

      @ William Greenwood, like I said, “My sheep hear my voice ( JESUS Voice, and a stanger they will not FOLLOW ( thats you the stranger) You are an anti-christ satan has you BLINDED, REALLY BLINDED. JESUS IS REAL , GOD’S HOLY SON is very REAL ! JESUS IS LIFE!!!!

    • Do you ever consider that this “vision” of Joel Osteen was actually Satan misleading you?

    • Stan Finley

      Let me get this straight, are you telling me Jesus Christ existed before His birth. Daniel says, like the Son of God. Read further please!

      Daniel 4:28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king’s word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God. Jesus Christ was not an Angel folks, let’s get it straight!

    • Smoky

      Dan G you are correct in saying we are not perfect. What is perfect and true is the Word of God. If anyone changes what the Word says, then he deserves scorn. Joel and his wife both change the meaning of Scripture. She has been on video saying when you worship God you are doing it for yourself, not Him.

      The things he says have that dangerous bit of leaven in them, which the Bible warns us of:

      “Another parable spake He unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

      Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

      How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

      Then understood they how that He bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

      And He charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.”

      We are to love everyone and to correct a believer when they go astray. And about judging? We cannot judge someone saying they have sinned and will not be in heaven. Only God knows one’s heart. But we are told by God’s Word to be discerners of truth:

      “For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

      For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

      But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
      Hebrews 5:12-14

      If the hearers of Pastor Osteen are babes and in need of milk they will not understand when he gets it wrong. He may also be a babe in the Word. You cannot understand the ‘meat’ of the Bible until the Holy Spirit reveals it to you and you become more familiar with the Word.

      Is that not what satan did when he would quote the Bible to Jesus? But Jesus knew the truth and would not listen to him.

      As Christians we don’t always correct in as loving ways as we should, but then we are not perfect are we? Only God and His Word are perfect.

  • Well at least you got it right this time William. The Catholic church IS an abomination. However, there is true CHRISTianity and I am a born-again follower of Jesus Christ, not the pope.

    Maybe you should get born-again as well.

  • It is amazing how many so-called “Christians” think that we are not to judge at all. IF these “Christians” actually read the Bible (KJV), they might find that it says in Proverbs 31 to judge righteously. They also might find that the apostle Paul made some rather judgmental statements in many of his letters. So maybe he was wrong and these “Christians” are right. It is very sad that so many so-called “Christian teachers” are misleading people these days. Joel Osteen, Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton…to name a few.

    My personal thinking is that only about 4% of the U.S. population is truly born-again. This would equate to approx. 13 million out of 320 million.

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  • MRH

    Prosperity? The problem is spiritual perspective; self, not God! The scriptures state that we should put God first in all life matters and interests, not create our own version of things. Therefore prosperity doctrine is false, not because of health and wealth factors, but because it teaches us to rely upon ourselves instead of upon God. And that’s a worldly thinking pattern regardless if it works or not (often does). Certainly God wants us to be blessed in life, not destitute and ill? Anyway, I found a few relevant scriptures which I think prove my biblical prosperity point fairly well?

    Deu 29:9 KJV – Keep therefore the words of this covenant, and do them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.

    Psa 1:3 KJV – And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

    Psa 73:12 KJV – Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

    Pro 28:13 KJV – He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

    3Jo 1:2 KJV – Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

    Mat 6:31-33 KJV – Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    Jhn 10:10 KJV – The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

  • STL

    It seem Joel think he’s going to be a important member of the Universal One World Religion, but as soon the False Prophet is in power, Joel will be 6 feet under!

    • Carol

      @ Kimmi McCullough, Thank You for posting that information about Joel, and the Pope. I know anyone that meets the Pope has to BOW, and Kiss his hand with the ring, this means the Pope is sovereign, which means that the Pope can do what ever he wants on the earth. Sovereign also is what GOD ALMIGHTY IS, HE holds that title!!!! it it for GOD ALMIGHTY ONLY!!!! THE CREATOR OF THE EARTH, and all living things above, and beneth .GOD it the one that can DO ALL THINGS .GOD IS ALL POWERFUL, SOVEREIGN!!!!!! Joel just Bowed to the False Prophet in the Book of Revelations. He is a WOLF in SHEEPS CLOTHING selling his flock to satan. Jesus LOVES all People of all Nationalities everywhere the sin that we have in our lives, KEEPS US FROM THE HOLY GOD that LOVES US. AMEN! Have a Blessed Day!

    • Carol

      @ Dan, Yes God is the Judge, he tells us to use RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT- Joel Osteen is doing the WRONG THINGS that JESUS WARNED US about! We have to Stay Away from False Teachers. My sheep ( believers in JESUS ) hear my-(JESUS) voice, and another( False Teachers- anti-christ) they won’t follow. Use Righteous Judgement, we are required to do this a SOUL is IMPORTANT, Don’t let anyone STEAL YOUR CROWN. GOD is the FINAL JUDGE we all will stand before him. Have a Blessed Day.

    • Tracy

      @Kimmmie,
      Well said! A true born again Christian has the Holy Spirit living within which helps a person to be able to discern the truth. And to, you aren’t judging Joel; just pointing out to others that he is a feel-good, motivational speaker.
      Is he still charging a fee to hear him “preach?”
      Dear God, help us.

    • Carol

      @ Wiiliam Greenwood, you are an –atheist —you don’t believe in GOD cause you don’t want GOD telling you what to do, you live your life how you want not carring how you HURT GOD. Well don’t come on here this Christian web-site telling us your deceptions, FALSE INFORMATION You won’t change the way— WE CHRISTIAN FEEL, and KNOW so don’t bother. My Sheep hear my VOICE, and a STANGER they will not follow ( that would be YOU (the stanger) We know the TRUTH HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST. Everyone NEEDS JESUS CHRIST. You will see too soon,you will need him to also to have LIFE ETERNAL. Amen ,Come LORD JESUS COME!!

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    • MRH

      “Acknowledging Jesus Merely as Savior is Insufficient. If you have not enthroned Christ as Lord, and do not defer to Him as King, you cannot possibly attain salvation”

      @Jeffrey Ray Hardin: Thankfully not so according to the KJV bible 😉

      Jhn 3:16, 18, 36 KJV – For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. … He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. … He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

      Jhn 5:24 KJV – Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

      Jhn 6:47 KJV – Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

      Act 10:43 KJV – To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

      Rom 1:16 KJV – For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

      Rom 4:5 KJV – But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

      Rom 10:4, 10-11 KJV – For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. … For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

      1Pe 2:6 KJV – Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

      1Jo 5:1, 5, 10 KJV – Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. … Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? … He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

      P.S. Salvation is a matter of the heart, not of being perfect in being 🙂

    • Alex Voon

      Agree with Kimmi,Jane and all who are able to discern a false prophet. Well said. False doctrines are everywhere. Whoever abideth not in the doctrine of Christ (that is the full gospel) are already dead. How much more if it is another gospel which is a little bit different from the doctrine of Christ. Those who teaches the doctrine of Balaam (a greedy prophet of God) will not be spared. A false prophet teaches false doctrine and prophesy falsely.
      Rev 2:14
      – But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
      2 John 1:9
      – Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
      1:10
      – If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:
      1:11
      – For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

      Anyone who agree, support or defend those wrong doctrines are in danger of evil sins.

  • Jane

    Joel Osteen is not a preacher in the proper sense of the word. He is a great motivational speaker. He has never gone to a seminary, as far as I have been able to ascertain, and has stepped up on the podium on the back of his late father, who WAS a preacher. If Joel Osteen actually preached the Gospel of Christ, which include acknowledging one’s sin, grieving over our sin, having a repentant spirit and heart and asking Christ to forgive those sins and come into our hearts, that church would empty out like someone hit the fire alarm button….and so would the money….unfortunately, the love of money is the motivating factor in his “ministry”, not the souls he is leading into hell.

    • Bheki

      Jane, so true and you said it well.

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      The pope is not the Antichrist!

  • Guest

    I don’t care about J.O. I’m still thinking about how God made the sun stand still for Joshua

    • MRH

      Maybe a miracle like with other biblical wonders 😉

  • Dave Keener

    Joel Olsteen is like eating a rice cake – looks appetizing, but there is no substance there. Just a lot of fluff and air. No real substance. He is full of anecdotal stories and jokes. He delivers a feel good sermon without any real gospel. He is a false prophet.

  • Pittman

    Why would anyone listen to what most of you are saying? Most of you are filled with self-righteousness and ignorance. Sighting examples of the KJV as the only “true” word of God or obvious new world thinking of the obsolescence of the New Testament because of late 19th century “evolutionary” thinkers, only proves my points. I will never return to this website, not only because of this, but your obvious lack of concern for the love of Christ for us and your blatant illiteracy.

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  • Love and Joy

    What Theological Institute did ya’ all receive your doctorates on the KKT? Where are you all hanging out on Sundays? I’m looking for a true church and ya’ all seem to know more then any minister I’ve known in all my 63 years. Thirty five of which I’ve been a saved and born again Christian. Just where are the true ministers hiding? There’s many people searching for them.

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  • Eric

    I just have to say, Who is this guy? Where did he come from? Where are his credentials? Who made him so creditable? I understand how people can make mistakes, but so many? I am not a preacher, but I know the bible, and to me if your going to represent Our GOD as his messenger, then you should have your facts straight. Our jobs as Christians, is to expose the truth, and identify false prophets. And if you read the bible, We are not allowed to benefit from GOD’S WORD. So take it as you wish,just remember, We are all accountable for our words and actions, If you fail to search for the truth, and you are DECEIVED, blame no one,except yourself. (2 Corinthians 11 vs.12-15)

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  • Alex Voon

    Now we are to awake and beware of Mega Churches because so many famous pastors had been exposed of their hidden evil deeds been exposed by our Lord. True pastors who preached Truth are : David Pawson, Paul Washer, Zac Poonen which you can listen in youtube. Listen to them if you wish to enter the Kingdom of God. Otherwise you might perish following wrong teachings / doctrines.

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  • gigigil

    Like every demonically inspired false preacher, he will take the weak and leadership sheep as far as he can to fill his bank account, then disappear. Joel Osteen is a fraud. Straight from the pit of hell.Money is his god. Not the Lord of Lords and king of KIngs. His time will come. God sees the con man he is and the absolutely phony disgusting plastic surgery hard drinking fraud of a wife he has too.

  • Rowley

    Geoffrey, we both know that the name “Jesus” only came about with the KJV Bible (400 odd years ago).
    Before the KJV Bible it was Iesous, which came from Constantine who probably got it from his god Zeus.

    What a weak excuse you use to say that you cannot pronounce Yahuweh because it is a Hebrew name – tell that to the Messiah at the judgment!
    The Bible does not tell us to learn Greek either.
    Regarding the name of the Messiah and the Elohim of the Bible, He is a Holy Father, a righteous Father.
    You can call him whatever name you like, but know there is a ‘payday’ coming.
    Using some pagan name for the Elohim of the Bible is breaking the third commandment, which says, “You shall not bring the Name of Yahuweh your Elohim to nothingness”.
    Rejecting the use of His Name is definitely bringing it to nothingness.
    We honour Him by saying it correctly with reverence, love, respect, and FEAR.
    We must “fear His Name”.

    In Hosea 2:13-23, we see that for those who do not know His correct Hebrew Name, He will “take the names of Baal out of our mouth”.
    That is– when He comes and restores all things, in the Kingdom.
    The martyrs that are dying now for the name of Jesus, will rule and reign with Him—Revelation 20:1-6.
    If our heart is pure towards Him, and we are obedient to what we know, He will lead us further into all Truth by His Spirit!
    But, to purposely reject the use of Messiah’s family name is to cut off the connection with Messiah and His Father.
    The word “God” comes from “Gawd”, which is a pagan god.
    “God” is also a generic term, and could mean “Krishna, Allah, or Lucifer”.
    Father leads honest seekers. Lucifer leads dishonest ones.

    A Hebrew name means something. It identifies a person. Our Saviour’s Name Yahushua means: “I Am Salvation”, from His Father’s Name Yahueh which means: “I AM the Ever-existing One who breathes.” Thus we have a Father and a Son.
    In Zechariah 3:2, we see that Yahuweh uses His own Name twice in rebuking Satan –for it is the most powerful Name in the universe.
    Of course, His enemies are determined to rid themselves of it from planet earth, and His “bands”—His Torah—as stated in Psalm 2.

    In Joel 2:32 the prophet tell us in the last days to call on the name of Yahuweh. Not lord, as in Hebrew this means baal – a pagan god.
    For Paul followers – Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Yahuweh shall be saved.”
    Lord is another name change by Constantine and the catholic church – all paganism.

    In Jn 5:43 the Messiah says: “ I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.”
    The Father’s name is YAHUWEH, YAH being the common denominator.
    Christians follow the second part of this verse.

    Jn 10:30 “I and the Father are One.”
    Jn 6:39; 40; 44; 45 and 54 tells us that no one can come to the Messiah unless drawn by the Father.
    If you are preaching and no one is interested and think you are wasting your time preaching, you are possibly correct, those people are not being ‘drawn by the Father.”
    As also indicated by what the Messiah said in Matt 10:5-15.
    His “sheep know Him” as in Jn 10:4-29.
    Those drawn by the Father are obedient and trust Him, not dissenters, the proud, sinners, hard hearts or arrogant heads (1 Cor 6:9-10).

    “Yeshua” is a word for “salvation” –and that is what He is and describes what He has done for us–but it is not His Name.
    Our earthly father’s name identifies us as to what lineage we are from.
    The “family” name from our Father is very important.

    Blessings

  • Jason

    It doesn’t really matter what language we use to call upon His name, whether we use Hebrew:Yeshua, Greek:Iesous, or Latin:Jesus.
    What does matter if we believe upon Him as the Christ and the redeemer of this world, and live according to His commandments, as He lived according to His Father’s commandments.

    John 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

  • 12Melodie

    Wow, pretty shocking to see all the arguing going on between people who love God and Jesus. We are judged on what we know and understand. The Bible tells us to trust only God, and to not trust man. If God wants us to call Him something then He will put it on our hearts. I mean people are saying we need to call God what the Torah says, and well I say this, the Torah was written by man while in captivity in Babilonia and it was to try and keep the traditions before captivity. There for I don’t trust it and only trust God, and once again if God wants us to know something He will let us know, that is why I pray for wisdom and understanding. I wouldn’t trust anyone who gets angry and argues over what name He should be called. We are to be focused on saving those not yet saved, we are told not to argue over religion, why then is it happening, now arguing is not a spirit that comes from God.

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