Former Hillsong Worship ‘Pastor’ Darlene Zschech Now Leading Followers To Rome

On her Facebook page, Darlene Zschech breathlessly gushed "The prep has begun in Rome. I can feel the prayers. Honoured to be with Pope Francis and thousands of worshippers...
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Darlene Zschech is a prominent voice in the contemporary praise movement

“Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,” 2 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV)

Darlene Zschech started out as a  “worship pastor” at Hills Christian Life Centre, Sydney, Australia, and has published many popular worship albums under the Hillsong Music label. She is also associated with Integrity Music and the Hosanna label. She and her husband, Mark, are now senior “pastors” of Hope Unlimited Church in New South Wales.

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About meeting the Pope, Zschech said “What a day. All honour and praise to our Father in Heaven. Thank You, Thank You, Jesus.”

Last week, she performed on stage as a headliner at the Vatican’s Renewal of the Holy Spirit rally. On her Facebook page, Zschech breathlessly gushed The prep has begun in Rome. I can feel the prayers. Honoured to be singing this week, with Andrea BocelliDon Moen (Praise & Worship Leader), Noa (Achinoam Nini) with Pope Francis and thousands of worshippers gathering in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican. This is a celebration of unity and peace in the Renewal of the Holy Spirit. Amazing days for the Body of Christ.”

As a former Catholic for 28 years, I can assure you that the Catholic Church is not part of the Body of Christ. When I went through 12 years of private Catholic school indoctrination, we never called ourselves “Christians”, we always referred to ourselves as Catholics. Now obviously I believe that Catholics can be saved, but I do not think it is possible for that to happen within the Catholic system. Bible doctrine and Catholic doctrine are indeed at odds with each other, I never met a priest or a nun who could tell me for sure that they were going to Heaven when they died. Because unlike the Bible, Catholic doctrine teaches that you cannot know for sure. That’s why they teach the false doctrines of Sacraments, Purgatory, Saint Worship, and pray to Mary, because they are trying to build up as many “good works” as they can to outweigh their bad on Judgment Day. And that is why the vast majority of Catholics will wind up in Hell because they were never saved in the first place.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8,9 (KJV)

In all the endless hours of sermonizing and talking put in by Pope Francis, can you show me a 5 minute presentation of Gospel on how to be saved? No, you can’t because he doesn’t talk about those things. So what, I wonder, did Darlene Zschech and the other Laodicean “evangelicals” have to discuss with the Catholics when they arrived starry-eyed in the City of Babylon to pay homage to the Pope? I think that’s a pretty good question. From the looks of things, they just performed Christian rock music, got everyone all hyped up on emotion, and had you fall down and pray to their “generic Jesus” who judges nothing, loves all, and supports same-sex marriage.

Darlene Zschech has a lot in common with another famous Laodicean imposter:

Christian, in these last days as we watch denomination after denomination falling under the spell of Mother Rome, you would do well to guard your walk with the Lord and have nothing to do with these Laodicean, prosperity preaching imposters. If you ever get the chance to have an audience with Pope Francis, why don’t you tell him how to get saved? Because Darlene Zschech certainly didn’t tell him that when she had her chance.

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • eddie santana

    That’s too bad for Darlene…she’s kinda cute.

    • Peace

      Full stop. Do any of you realize this is a 100% false news report?? Why are you sowing fear and hatred? Baring false witness is not good. Do you even fact check before you spout lies? You know who wants there to be more lies and fear in the world, right?

    • Nenad

      Are you sure?

      • david

        what makes you think you are going to heaven? Who made you judge over your lifestyle? It’s written and it’s that all man have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. No one can go into heaven with the smallest stain of sin. . . heaven is pure and chaste! you can’t go in there with your judgmental attitude. We Catholics ask for God’s forgiveness every moment of our lives. . . for no one really knows when he has sinned or not. By mere conceiving evil and talking bad against others is reason enough to burn you in hell. you think you are righteous by mere studying the bible? The Catholic church is the only way to God’s heart. . . take it or leave it.

        • MRH

          The Catholic church is the only way to God’s heart. . . take it or leave it.

          Sorry, but salvation is only obtained by believing the gospel message, not by belonging to any religious organization 😉

          • Follower

            True. When you confess your sins, and believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins, and that you want to receive Him in your life to be a new creation, you are already saved. It doesn’t matter if you belong to any org or church. What matters is that you have received Christ in your life, and then be filled with the Holy Spirit to guide you in your change of lifestyle. I have Catholic friends who have already received Jesus Christ. They stayed a Catholic, but follows what is in the Bible to start a new life.

          • Gregory

            Salvation is to be gained by trust in God through Christ and not by the horned Catholic Pope or any man, rituals, sacraments or penances any church. The teachings of Christ should be taught out of the Bible. And not the traditions of man

          • MRH

            I have Catholic friends who have already received Jesus Christ. They stayed a Catholic, but follows what is in the Bible to start a new life.

            @ Follower: The key is understanding which true church we all belong to, and that church is in the bible.. church of God.

            However it’s not recommended to stay in a church or fellowship which teaches error, as doing such often only leads to conflict eventually. I know from past experience, though one can still be blessed as long as there is a benefit to things. At present after recently departing a small fellowship (false teachings), I’ve been exploring local SDA churches (friend invites). And so far so good, as no negative impact. However I don’t agree with all SDA doctrine. But then I wouldn’t agree with other churches in all points and purposes either. I’m a fringe rider when it comes to holy havens 😉

          • MRH

            Salvation is to be gained by trust in God through Christ

            @ Gregory: Are you works or grace salvation oriented? I’m grace oriented myself, as that’s what the bible teaches us for today. Things were different with the OT and law period, which includes the NT Gospels. And things will again change after the rapture. Those left behind will be saved through martyrdom. Also salvation then will be again conditional, with additional laws added.

          • steven marandola

            salvation is conditional thus the many warnings not to fall away…to obey and to overcome

          • Wrong. Salvation in the Church Age can never be lost because we have been “sealed” by the Holy Spirit.

            “That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:12-14 (KJV)

        • Albie

          John 3:16King James Version (KJV)

          16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

          As easy as that. I believe God the Father, Jesus Christ his only son and in the Holy Spirit and therefore I am saved and will rule in heaven one day with Christ. He died for our sins and I am forgiven. No man can forgive me for my sins. The pope is a man. Have a blessed day through Christ our Lord!

        • Jesus says HE is the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by Him. Jesus is the ONLY way to God our Father.

          • derick

            agree

        • smith

          can you give us any documents for your CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE ONLY WAY TO GODS HEART? i know your answer, ill ask my priest… wright? you must read your bible on your own…

        • Paul

          Yours sins were dealt with on the cross my friend. What could you add to that? Nothing……

        • Kevin

          Praise the Lord. It hurts to see that you do not read the Word of God (not man) properly. God has himself commanded that forgiveness comes only through Christ and that we must confess our sins to CHRIST to be saved.confessing it to a mere human won’t save you, brethren. May the Word Of God open your eyes and light thy way. Praise the Lord.

  • eddie santana

    Yup, she’s as giddy as a 10 year old at a Justin Beiber concert.
    Did she forget that annoying little commandment warning against having no other gods before me?

    • Jen

      Bingo, Eddie. And “Call no man ‘Father’…” Seriously…Jonathan Cahn had a good word for the pope and his tons of gold laden cathedrals…”Melt it down”…”Melt it down and use it for the Kingdom of GOD.”
      Nuff said.

      • Jeryl

        I was in Rome many years ago. I walked through St. Peter’s Basilica and several other well-known Catholic edifices. I remember the great amount of gold, silver and precious stones adorning those buildings, then I thought of how many Catholics live in abject poverty! It’s easy to see where the Catholic Church’s emphasis lies – power & wealth!

      • avoidhell

        1 Corinthians 4:17 – For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love.
        1 Timothy 1:2 – To Timothy, my true child in the faith:
        Titus 1:4 – To Titus, my true son in our common faith:
        1 Corinthians 4:14-15 – I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

      • Gregory

        Jen- I agree It is blasphemy to call man by God’s name. Holy Father is in the Bible one time where Jesus Christ referred to God the Father as Holy Father

  • cheryl s.

    Yup, she’s as giddy as a 10 year old at a Justin Beiber concert.
    Did she forget that annoying little commandment warning against having no other gods before Me?

  • Pure evil.

  • eddie santana

    Well, this should reinforce Geoff’s point that although the Hillsong people might put out some great praise music and love the Lord, they are still susceptible to hero worship and abberant theology. It’s just when they or anyone else teach that theology that they will be accountable to God if they lead others astray.

    • MRH

      eddie santana: Most churches today are deluded, and that includes their blind members. No different than with the world game, all grandiose deceptions! The ‘key’ is not people, but rather demons! The latter surround and rule us, and cause corruption and destruction on a global level! Demons invade everyone and everything they can, which includes; us, pets, people, situations, etc!

      P.S. Most modern celebrities are empowered by demons; magicians, musicians, singers, politicians, athletes, media, etc? Do you not yet understand enigma?

    • Sola Scriptura

      Not only are the Hillsongs leaders ecumenical and avoid mentioning sin(the very reason Jesus came to earth!!) but they use illuminati imagery on their stage and their new album has letters upside down and backwards. Those in the occult know exactly what signs they are sending to those who know.

      http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/praying-with-people-of-other-religions/

      • Pieter

        Absolute rubbish.This team spent time in prayer and fasting before they embarked.They bring the grace of God to those lost and in darkness.Our Creator wishes no one to be lost but that all should come to repentance and receive the mery of God through Jesus Christ his son.pray that millions of catholics be saved as the Roman Catholic Church aligns with the antichrist .

      • Mace6887

        In general “hill song” does not mention sin and cannot preach the gospel if they don’t mention sin. As you can see she is a former catholic and and is former to hill song. You may need to read her testimony and possibly avoid slander and judgement on how God is using her now.

  • Gregory

    Isaiah. 4:1 In that day seven women shall take hold of one man. Seven is a complete number and that means every church in the world will take hold of one man. The Pope of Rome. Saying we will eat our own bread and wear our own apparel only let us be called by thy name to take away our reproach. The Pope of Rome is going to have 666 bodies, organizations or churches under him and he will tell them what to do. He will be a religious Dictator. If you give the right hand of fellowship to this world church that is the mark of the beast. The second beast is coming back to do the same thing the first beast did during the dark ages. They are going to martyr many of us. The Sixth trumpet is blowing today! This will gather God’s people together just as the people were gathered together during the early rain. From all organizations all churches all bodies baptized into the body of Jesus Christ. Made as one man and with one voice we shall speak

    • Simon

      illuminati confirmed, then – moron!!

    • David Cavanagh

      You do realise that is a promise of redemption you are quoting….?

    • MRH

      If you give the right hand of fellowship to this world church that is the mark of the beast. The second beast is coming back to do the same thing the first beast did during the dark ages. They are going to martyr many of us

      @ Gregory: The mark of the beast concerns commerce not religion. Also when did the first beast rule for 42 months (3.5 years)? And when was the ‘abomination of desolation’ event? There has not been any temple since the second one was destroyed along with the holy city in 70 AD. Israel was reborn in 1948, and a third temple is coming soon on the temple mount.

      Also the tribulation directly concerns Israel and the Jews, not the church nor world. Although history is replete with tribulations after 70 AD event, and trend continues in modern times. Consider; crusades, reformation, holocaust, wars, and now Mideast insanity? Many being religious wars of some sort, and with tiny Israel under continual attack.

      • Gregory

        The mark of the beast concerns commerce? Try reading KJV of the Bible Rev. 13th chapter John says, Let him that hath the understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. The first Beast ruled for 1260 years during the Dark Ages while the world was under the domination and supreme power of the Popes of Rome they held the power of life and death over all. During the Inquisition called Holy Office millions of real Christians were killed. The Beast is the Roman Catholic church and it’s going to martyr real Christians just like it did during the Dark Ages. Believe what you will but I’m not buying what your selling

        • MRH

          John says, Let him that hath the understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man

          @ Gregory: 666 is the number ID in the NWO money system. The mark is the RFID chip. Evidence declares things 🙂

          Rev 13:16-17 KJV – And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

          Also the Greek simply states ‘man’, no ‘of a’ articles.

          Rev 13:18 KJV – Here[G5602] is[G2076] wisdom.[G4678] Let him that hath[G2192] understanding[G3563] count[G5585] the number[G706] of the beast:[G2342] for[G1063] it is[G2076] the number[G706] of a man;[G444] and[G2532] his[G846] number[G706] is Six hundred threescore and six.[G5516]

          Lexicon :: Strong’s G444 – anthrōpos (man) = generically, to include all human individuals

          P.S. Get with the new knowledge program, discard obsolete old school theories 💡

          • Gregory

            God said, The second beast would exercise the same power as the first beast that had a deadly wound by the sword and did live. The second beast is coming right back to do the same thing the first did during the dark ages. Martyr real Christians.

            Rev. 13:16-17 KJV- Is talking about doctrine you will have to be Roman Catholic to buy or sell doctrine. Very soon no man will be allowed to buy or sell doctrine unless they belong to the Roman Catholic church. If you accept this writing you have bought truth I sold you truth.
            If you give the right hand of fellowship to the Roman Catholic church that is the mark of the beast in your right hand. If you accept this One World church with your mind that is the mark of the beast in your forehead.

            Therefore it doesn’t mean that man has a number in his forehead or right hand or carries a number on a Identification card. It means that the man of sin the Pope of Rome is going to have 666 bodies, denominations or organizations under him and he will tell them what to do. The Pope of Rome is a religious Dictator. Isaiah said, In that day seven women shall take hold of one man. Seven is a complete number and that means every church in the world will take hold of one man.

            Saying we will eat our own bread and wear our own apparel only let us be called by thy name to take away our reproach. Isaiah 4:1 Today the churches are under reproach sin abounding right in the churches and congregations they won’t stand for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Pride has come in and crowded God out. But that won’t stop God from working in this earth.

            John saw two companies in the 14th chapter of Rev. He saw those that followed Jesus Christ and His number was 144,000. John said These are they not defiled with women. But the man of sin the Pope of Rome will have 666 women, 666 churches or bodies making up his number. This man John refers to has a number and his number is 666. Let him that has understanding count the number of the Beast, for it is the number of a man and his number is six hundred threescore and six. It means that man of sin—the Roman Catholic Pope will have 666 bodies making up his number.

            It’s easy enough to see the churches merging together it is plain enough to be seen. John tells us in the 13th chapter of Revelation that everyone that doesn’t worship that image they are erecting out here right now will be killed. The Roman Catholic church and many other churches have the characteristics of the Beast.
            If people belong to my church I love this people I’ll care for this people. But I won’t care for this people here because they belong to another church.
            That is the nature of the Beasts.
            It is in the Lion.
            The Bear, the Cow. It’s in all animals and we can have that Beastly nature. We have got to get rid of that Beastly nature to make us what we ought to be for God and have love shed abroad in our hearts as Paul said. That means to love everybody that God loves and that is the world. That gives us no chance to get back at anybody. Jesus suffered, He never spoke back, He never stirred up a quarrel anywhere He was a sheep before the shears and a Lamb before the slaughter He opened not His mouth.

            Thus saith the Lord stand ye in the ways and see and ask for the old paths, where is the good way and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls Jeremiah 6:16

      • Gregory

        MRH, When did the first Beast rule? The Bibe calls it: 3.5 days; 42 months; 1260 days; and time, times, and half a time.
        A. 3-1/2 days= 3×360+180= 1260 years, Rev.11 :9, 11
        B. 42 MONTHS= 42X30 Days/month= 1260 days= 1260 years, Rev.11:2, Rev.13:5
        C. 1260 days= 1260 years, Rev. 11:3, Rev.12:6
        D. Time= 360 years, times= 720 years, half time=180 years, so time, times and half a time= 1260 years, Dan.7:25, Dan.12:7, Rev.12:14
        Learn Time in the Bible

        • MRH

          @ Gregory: There are many parallels with bible prophecy and world events. However scripture states that the tribulation would be very short (many days), not many long years.

          Dan 11:33 KJV – And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

          Mat 24:21-22 KJV – For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

          P.S. The tribulation can’t happen until after the third temple rises. But that doesn’t mean tribulations can’t occur before 😉

    • MRH

      God said, The second beast would exercise the same power as the first beast that had a deadly wound by the sword and did live. The second beast is coming right back to do the same thing the first did during the dark ages. Martyr real Christians.

      You error in understanding modern knowledge! The pope and president are but gamers, along with their many clan and followers! To understand hidden truths, one must open their spiritual eyes! There have been and still are many deceptions prevailing! Beneath are dark agendas, which involve; depopulation, enslavement! Those on thrones are but demons in disguise! The evidence declares things if one looks. I have seen their many occult symbols and understand much. Unfortunately I cant disclose knowledge as per your admitted denial? 🙁

  • MRH

    Folks: What many don’t know about Pope Francis, they also don’t know about others in the limelight; politicians, entertainers, etc. Darlene and the popes followers may or may not be innocent.. that I can’t judge (God judges them). However Francis is an impostor, working for the NWO, which is evidenced. And notice how he revels in being praised or worshiped? Likewise his mystery NWO counterpart President Obama? And his supposed enemies; Putin, Bibi, etc?

    But underneath the ever evolving clever disguises are dark angels hard at work, to corrupt and destroy Gods creation! Just as occurred before the flood, with fallen angels corrupting the whole earth. The same scenario is playing out now, only in a different more hidden fashion. But if one opens their spiritual eyes they will see behind the veil which the demons place over us thus blinding us.

    P.S. It’s all a global show with real wonders and horrors, and also deceptions galore. If you believe or dwell on anything they tell you, then you are the fool! They hate you unto the core, but want you to love them without question!

  • Jen

    Amen, Geoffrey…am in totally agree with your commentary and views expressed in this article. How can these Bible believing people smile in the face of one who is teaching such apostasy? To give their allegiance to one who accepts all these praises from men! It is nauseating…and the word Laodicean is correct. Who will still stand for Jesus in the end? The pope is set to come to America this fall…and I forsee the masses ‘falling for it’, crying, “a god and not a man!” A truly godly humble person would NEVER accept the praise and worship given to him…and the true church would hold him ACCOUNTABLE for accepting any worship. They’d fire him.
    The pope did not die for us – Jesus did..and also rose again from the dead and is coming again SOON! WORSHIP GOD…HE MADE YOU.

  • jorecs

    you cannot be saved by hating catholics, what’s the use of your faith when you hate many good catholics? your faith is dead, you just use Jesus and Bible for money beacause you have no Idea what love is and how it differs from hating and cursing other religion, i tell u dude, you cannot even judge muslims or natives who never know Jesus, only God has a ryt to judge anyone, your mission is to share love by spreading the good news, not destroying and judging catholics and hating catholics and gossiping that others are bad just to make you appear good to people especially those who visit your website. Read the Bible and be a Catholic first before judging how bad they are. im sure once you penetrate the real essence of being a Catholic,youll be save.

    • sky

      You are right jorecs, These protestants only good at judging others specially Catholics. They should remember that they only popped out from nowhere just recently and can’t even trace their denomination back to the time of Jesus. As Jesus established only one Church (not 40,000 churches) and built it on St. Peter and He said Even the Gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against it and and guess which one is the only church standing since 33AD up to now and still being persecuted up to this time, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. To God be all the glory…

      • Sola Scriptura

        What matters is if what they believe is biblical. It is not judging to test beliefs with scriptures. The Berea’s tested Paul and he respected them for it, and was NOT defensive at all because what mattered was truth.
        What is truth? Thy word is truth.
        http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/12/02/the-written-word-what-did-jesus-the-apostles-and-the-psalmists-say-about-the-written-word-of-god/

        • Pieter

          Trim your wicks everyone for the bridegroom is about to come.Those apostate priests,Pope’s and yes hyper faith protestant Evangelists that fleece God’s people will stand before the Almighty to give account of their lives…it is better that a sone be hung around their necks and they be drowned in the deepest sea..than they should lead God’s children astray…Pray not that the catholics come but rather they repent and show other catholics the free undeserved Salvation of Jesus Christ .who died so that all might be healed and forgiven..

        • Pieter

          Trim your wicks everyone for the bridegroom is about to come.Those apostate priests,Pope’s and yes hyper faith protestant Evangelists that fleece God’s people will stand before the Almighty to give account of their lives…it is better that a sone be hung around their necks and they be drowned in the deepest sea..than they should lead God’s children astray…Pray not that catholics repent and show other catholics the free undeserved Salvation of Jesus Christ .who died so that all might be saved healed and forgiven..

    • david

      I grew up Catholic.I am fortunate indeed that my parents were actually saved. My mother’s prayers in tongues helped me to discover greater secrets than I dare write of. It all started with being on my face revealing my heart to the almighty in repentance. Know what I found out ? It can be emotionally draining, until you experience the ultimate healing of your heart, by the baptism of the Holy spirit. In tongues, loud, even understanding a little of what I said !!! at the throne, flowing over with healing and soaking tears. WOW…. EVERY KNEE WILL SURELY BOW. In the evening are great tears. In the morning there is a song. Bring every thought under subjection to him.

      Beginning at the time of 9/11, intense studies from time to time, and extensive research, proves to me the Catholic religion is a sun worship, pagan …extremely old form of demonic worship. This takes homework into the Masonic language of symbols. Not just a long history of blood letting.

      I learned a lot about symbols in military intelligence. But that’s NOTHING compared to what the Holy spirit can lead you too. The only thing missing from the Catholic mass is the blood sacrifice on a pyramid, and that’s done beneath on an obsidian alter during specific times. I’ll never walk into another Catholic church the rest of my life. I may be considered very different, and a little crazy, but I AIN’T stupid. I am no longer the same man, and never will be again bless God.

  • MRH

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! 💡 😉 🙂 😀

    https://youtu.be/8MeuVvvMhoA

    • Connie

      For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3

    • Connie

      1 Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, “Come.” 2 I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. Revelation 6:1-2

      • MRH

        Connie: Just go here for end time knowledge 😉

        http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/END-TIMES.htm

        • Collin

          Hi MRH,

          I disagree! We should read the Holy Bible for end time knowledge! Nuff said!!!

          • Gregory

            I agree, People need their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. You do that by reading the Word of God. By reason of use you can have your senses exercised.

            Paul said, Having your senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Heb.5:14

          • MRH

            Collin: I agree the bible is our #1 source, but biblical research sources are #2. Likewise with conspiracy theories #3. However no one source has all the answers. In fact the bible only has limited insight into end time mysteries. Therefore if you keep your nose buried in the book, then all you will learn is words. And words by themselves have little useful knowledge to offer.

            P.S. To begin to understand end time bible prophecy, you will need to tie such to conspiracy theory, and as well to historical and modern events. They all go hand in hand in unveiling things.

        • Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

          You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet. Simon, son of John, your name is Stone [for the name Peter means Stone]. And on this Rock I will build my Church.

    • MRH

      @ Connie: The 4 horse mystery revealed 😀
      http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/Rev-4-horses.htm

      Also the 7 trumpets mystery revealed 😀
      http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/Rev-7-trumpets.htm

      And lastly the 4 beast mystery revealed 😀
      http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/Dan-4-beasts.htm

      What more do you wish to know? I’ve vaults of knowledge 😉

  • Jen

    Matthew 23:8,9

    I Corinthians 1:11-13

    No one is hating anyone…except for the enemy that goes forth to deceive many…but many believers (and unbelievers) from all denominations need to wake up and get into their Bibles so as not be swept into the great falling away. God’s LOVE is to warn us to stay alert.
    (II Thess. 2, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21…(all good references Jesus taught about the end times right before HE returns to earth).

    Many end time false prophets are teaching lies…There is THE one false prophet who will be responsible for leading MULTITUDES into hell teaching a gospel of abomination…’that anything goes…and that you can merge all religions into one and call it good and ‘Godly’…’!

    This is blasphemy against the holy sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord. “For God did not send His Son into the world to
    condemn the world, but that the world through HIM might be saved.”
    John 3:17

    • Francisky

      So you say merging all religions into one is ungodly; didn’t Jesus Himself pray that we may be one just as Him and the Father are one?

      • carson

        it’s simple, He said one =IN Him.
        One with each other who are IN Christ/OF Christ..
        Not..one with a hindu who worships vishu or one of their many many ‘gods’, not one with a muslim who worships allah, not one with those who deny Christ yet still think to have the Father (if you dishonor the Son you dishonor the Father who sent Him john 5:23, 1st john 2..)..how can a believer in Christ be one with those who are not believers in Christ? It’s silly, and impossible, yet it’s what the inter-faith is about.

        Besides catholic’s long standing doctrines of men if you don’t know what inter-faithism is consider the verse-people perish for lack of knowledge..and look into this ‘joining’ of all diverse religions into ‘oneness’..if that doesn’t shake people awake..well we all pray the Lord does shake many awake to save them from the false and wide path of the world and that they’d come full circle to Christ.

        There are not ‘many paths’ to the Father, Christ is the one and only way.

        ..so, what about a true christian joining with another..christian?..who is joined with a voodoo priest in prayer and ‘oneness’..? doesn’t that make the true christian joined with a falsity, joined with a voodoo priest? Hope any will wake up.

      • Pieter

        Francisky: The New Age Religion is the combined religion effect 😉

    • Sola Scriptura

      We were warned time and time again by Jesus and Paul about false prophets and teachers…now they are here:
      http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/

  • Deacon Blue

    Matthew 24:24 was given to us for a reason. You should always be VERY discerning of any religious leader… the Bible compels us to do this- especially this day and age!

  • MANNO

    well, WELCOME HOME SISTER!
    the only Church Founded and BUILT by Jesus Christ.

    not some protestant churches whose doctrines are made by their founders.
    no!
    PROTESTANTS NEVER EXISTED in the time of Jesus or Apostles.
    so who gave their Bible interpretation?

    well, its just their founders who interpreted the bible for them. and protestants are so gullible to gabble it all up!

    as we all know protestant churches were made in the late 1500’s until 2015.
    so who interpreted the bible for them again? their FOUNDERS!

    ssshhheeeshshshh! fake churches with fake doctrines.

    thats why protestants can never be sure if their doctrines are real or not!
    and they can tbey sure to know if they can enter heaven.

    making up their own bible interpretation? – thats UNBIBLICAL!

    • MRH

      Welcome to the great delusion which is the NWO 😉

      Tip: Research and learn, or remain in delusion 😉

    • Alicia

      The Catholic church has it’s roots in the church founded by Constantine ( 272 AD – 22 May 337 AD). Are YOU sure that when your priest speaks to his congregation it is Biblical?

      • Amen, the Catholic Church did not exist until 325 AD, almost a century and a half AFTER the Christian Church that Jesus started was complete.

    • Tusitala

      Dear Jesus, thank You for leading me from the errors of Rome into the Light of Your Word. Please bless all those still so deceived, Amen.

      • Amen. I was a Catholic for 28 years. That ended the day I got saved.

        • sooz22

          Amen, amen, and amen!!!

    • I am not a Protestant, I am a Baptist, which goes all the way back to well before the Catholic Church was started in 325 AD. The Bible tells me to follow Paul, not Peter. Nothing good ever came out of Rome, and still doesn’t. Why don’t you get saved?

      • Tusitala

        I am constantly amazed and saddened by the misrepresentations of the history and composition of the Christian church as promulgated by the Vatican. I was so deluded for decades, I blindly believed, and it almost cost me my immortal soul. I am still trying to “catch up” on the true story of our faith, and it is a wonderful journey. Not as fantastic as getting to know the true Holy Bible, but it is sure right up there !!

      • Deacon Blue

        Hate to break it to you, but the Baptist denomination broke of of the Mennonites. They don’t go back before the Catholic church, but only to the 1600s.

        • Francisky

          Good!! Beacon, unfortunately they don’t wanna know….

  • flaged

    Don Moen as well

    • MRH

      He’s deluded too 🙁

    • Don Moen is a Freemason

  • Orla Miller

    Seeking the Holy Spirit is a good thing! Some years ago there was a break off branch in the Catholic Church called the charismatic movement, of which my Grandmother was one… Unknown to us all until her death, she was gifted with tongues and interpretation of tongues, as was our grand-aunt who used to do intercession with her… extraordinary, true extraordinary what we found among her things… notebook upon notebook of words from Jesus… words of healing, of encouragement, of guidance and of wisdom…some of the words were in French also, which was awesome, given that she had never learned French… Point I’m making is… You can seek a true and spirit filled relationship with Christ from wherever you are… and perhaps it is time that Catholics begun to see this depth of relationship…

    • Catholics need to stop the idol worship and get saved. Praying to “saints” is not biblical, a priest cannot forgive your sins, and the “holy eucharist” mass is not biblical either.

    • Francisky

      The problem with you Protestants is that you don’t know anything about the Catholic Church all you know is the lies fed to you by your false Prophets; the pastors. for example charismatic renewal has never been a break off branch from the Catholic Church, it’s within the Church. I always pitty you guys claiming to be saved yet judging the Church of God with deceitful tounges.

      • Tusitala

        I would not assume that those of us who are criticizing the church of Rome are mainline Protestants, nor would I assume that we do not know the Catholic faith intimately, I was Catholic for over 50 years. There has been the true, vibrant, living church of Jesus Christ far longer than there has been a Roman Catholic one. Thank You, Lord Jesus, for Your abundant mercies toward me, thank You for Your patience with me, thank You for the Light of Your inerrant Word.

      • MRH

        Beneath the Vatican are many rooms filled with idols, including one of Satan riding a beast. Does that sound like a holy temple to you? The evidence and more is in above video.. SATAN’S MOUTH FOR THE NEW WORLD 😉

        P.S. The last few popes are NWO, and two have been photographed displaying devil horns. They are; Benedict, Francis. Likewise most politicians, and many celebrities. Google things if you doubt 💡

        https://youtu.be/Pb1vvCvoYio

        • Uh Yeah

          • MRH

            SPAM 😡

        • Uh Yeah

          Uh yeah, that is sign language for “I love you.” When making the “devil horns” sign, the thumb is down.

          • MRH

            Sorry but not exactly true to form. Helen Keller whom popularized the revised horned hand sign was involved in the occult. And there are other seemingly occult hand signs, such as the; pyramid, 666, eye, etc. Don’t be fooled, these elite people are all in the same dark club. They all serve Satan! The signs and symbols are how they communicate together, and gain worship from the blind populace.

  • Ani Torres

    Keep yourself grounded to the Word of God, taking away nothing, adding nothing. Wear blinders to the hype of the world. Pray for those straying…!

    • MRH

      Ani Torres: We also must warn unto the lost, the dark that encompasses them? Else why should they bother to repent? Being that life is but life with them?

      P.S. We can’t save the lost, only be witnesses and friends unto them. Amen?

  • Sarben

    I really didn’t feel comfortable with Darlene Zschech from the very beginning. But what about Don Moen? Is he in this too?

    • MRH

      Sarben: WAKE UP! ALL blind followers unto the NWO deception are deluded! 😥

      2Th 2:1-12 KJV – Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

  • rick deacon

    Billy Grahm has never told any of the popes the gospel.But for some reason he thought Pope Paul was the great spiritual leader and he must have thought he was saved. The best book I read on the Roman Catholic church was ‘A Woman Rides The Beast’ by the late Dave Hunt. Its on youtube also.

    • People get mad when you say it, but Billy Graham deceived a lot of Christians into thinking the Catholic Church was a Christian organization. He will answer for that at the Judgment Seat.

  • Tusitala

    Once again, and always, thank You, dear Jesus, for leading me out of the error, paganism and idolatry of Rome into Your Light. You, sweet Saviour, are the rock upon which the church is built, You are the one mediator between God and man, You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God. I bow only before You, Your majesty, Your glory. There is no other name by which we are saved, to venerate anyone else is a desecration. Thank You for Your pure Word in the King James Bible, thank You for preserving it amid the turmoil of the world. I love You, Jesus, please bless all of us as we struggle here, keep us safe from the strong delusion coming swiftly upon mankind. The one world religion forms before our eyes and the False Prophet takes his place at its head, spewing blasphemy and aggrandizing himself as Satan uses him to deceive so many. We, the remnant church, will stand only for You, fulfilling Your Word, we will put on the whole armor of God, we will stand. We love You, Jesus, help us to endure.

    • Gregory

      Jesus Christ wasn’t Roman Catholic and he wasn’t the founder of their Catholic cult. The word Catholic is not even in the Bible. The Roman Catholic cult isn’t a church it’s a lefty political machine. Roman Catholicism is a church that paganized religion, they twisted pagan, heathen practices into what they call Christian teachings. Jesus Christ was not and never was the founder of their godless cult. The Mighty Christ of God His church will be free of sin and evil.

      • sooz22

        She is not praising the Catholic church nor saying that Jesus was Catholic! She is being grateful for the Lord’s taking her out of the cult of “paganism and idolatry of Rome into Your Light.” She is describing the Roman Catholic church.

        • Tusitala

          Yes, sooz22, I was a Catholic, now saved by grace, and I thank God every, single day that I am free from the idolatry and errors of Rome. Dear Jesus, thank You…

  • Tommy in Missouri

    Wow…talking about taking something out of context. That video of Rick Warren was so out of context. I believe he was probably talking about how easily people are swayed to believe a “false prophet” and religion such as the Pope and the Catholic church. That is what the bible talks about with the phrase “itching ears”. People should listen to the entire interview before passing judgement on what he was saying.

    • On the contrary, the Rick Warren video is in complete context. As you can plainly hear, he thinks the Pope is a “great spiritual leader” and is “doing everything right”. I, on the other hand, think Francis is the False rophet from Revelation. And notice how slyly Warren refers to Francis as “our Pope”. Hmmmm, not MY Pope, Rick.

      • Tusitala

        Amen !!

  • Larry

    We are told to watch for False & Deceiving so called Religious leaders dressed in sheep’s clothing but are within ravaging Wolves. For even SATAN is a angel of light and his so called religious leaders will look good on the outside also. Be not deceived.

  • Sueawatcher

    The Pope deceives many. With all his pomp and circumstance and grandeur. Why not dispense some of the wealth that this church of Babylon has hoarded, and do what you preach.The Roman Catholic Church is the great deceiver and she will go down in the end.

  • eddie santana

    Jen, you’re tame compared to the Old Testament (where they crushed the golden calf to powder mixed it with water and made the people drink it). 🙂

    • Tusitala

      Amen and thank you, Amen !!

  • eddie santana

    MRH, of course…we wrestle not against flesh and blood. Informed ones know the world is just a pawn of the devil.

  • vietnamvet1971

    Amen, Exactly RW can confess the pope is his pope and align himself with this False religious system but people are warned & told to come out of False Religions & Deceived Heretics.

  • vietnamvet1971

    Amen, you have spoken the Truth through the Holy Spirit.

  • AVenable

    Must I remind everyone that Jesus was/is not a Catholic. Jesus was/is not a protestant. Jesus was/is not a gentile. Jesus was/is Jewish. It doesn’t matter that the Catholic Church is the oldest. What matters is that Christ is the way, the light, and the life. Therefore if you are saved, it shouldn’t matter where you choose to worship; and nobody’s denomination is completely right. The only thing that is right is to worship God the Father and accept and follow Jesus Christ. I always felt the Catholic Church is blasphemous. I mean, really. Jesus at the Last Supper didn’t check to see if everyone was “confirmed” before doling out the body and the blood.

    • Anna Joy

      Don’t you think Pope Francis is revolutionizing the Catholic Church for the better and at the same time impacting the world world? When the Lord called Zachaeus (the dishonest tax collector) and literally went to his house to have supper, Christ was criticized, mocked. Let’s look at the fruits of what is happening here. Christ was/ is a friend to the lowly, sinners, broken hearted, hurting, poor. We should follow in His footsteps. It is obvious Pope Francis is.

      • Gregory

        The Roman Catholic church isn’t a Christian church it’s the pagan cult of Mary nothing more. Those who follow the Pope of Rome will never come out of the Lake of fire. The Pope of Rome will be thrown into the bottomless pit. He will burn where the fire is not quenched and the worm dieth not. He will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever He will burn as long as the world exists forever and ever as long as the age lasts the Pope will burn forever and ever to the end of the age. The Devil that has deceived so many will be cast into the lake of fire and brimestone where the beast and false prophet are.

        • Uh Yeah

          Only God knows what is in each person’s heart and will judge accordingly. You don’t know every single person in the Catholic faith, yet you just condemned every single person in the Catholic faith. Uh Yeah…

  • Reading from the article, she was present with Don Moen and Andrea Bocelli. Any reason she has been singled out? If,she is guilty of anything as the article seeks to point out; should Moen and Bocelli not be equally mentioned?

    • She was singled out because her sphere of influence is much, much larger in Christian circles than Don Moen or Botticelli. People, mostly women, listen to what she says and follow her.

    • Don Moen is a Freemason we just discovered, so you can see she was in like company.
      The Pope & the Catholic church are known to be a catholic stronghold

  • Dwight

    Did you guys ever stop and think that maybe..just maybe God is using Darlene to get people out of that system doing “undercover” work for him? Accusers here remind me of the pharisees that said Jesus is casting out demons by the devil’s power. Darlene remains to be a pastor and I don’t think that’s going to change anytime soon.

    • Am I a dog’s head?

      A woman is not biblically qualified to be a pastor. 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1

      • Amen. That’s why I put the word “pastor” in quotes when referencing her.

      • Tusitala

        Amen, thank you.

    • Lol, some Christians are so far “undercover” that they functionally are the world. I have asked Catholic priests to get saved, and if I will get in front of Francis I will do the same thing.

  • eddie santana

    Most importantly of all Dwight, female pastors are unscriptural, let alone the scenario you’re imagining about her being undercover.

    • Tusitala

      Quite right, Amen.

  • Connie

    22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy Name? And in Thy Name have cast out demons? And in Thy Name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from Me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:22-23

  • Brother Grider,
    John wrote the book of Revelation many years after the ascension of Jesus. If Jesus is at the right hand of The Father before the book of Revelation was written, then who is this man child in Revelation 12:5 and whatever happened to this child? How can Christ be at the right hand of The Father and be an infant man child at the same time? Thanks and keep up the good work.

    • Great questions, here’s your answers: 1). Jesus wrote the book of Revelation, and dictated it to John as well as gave him visions in the Spirit. 2). The man-child in Revelation 12 is Jesus being born back in 4 BC, even though the context of Rev. 12 is in the far future of the Tribulation. From John’s perspective, it is a prophecy. 3). Jesus Christ exists outside of time. When He walked the earth, He never stopped being eternal God at the same time. Thanks for writing!

    • MRH

      Bluejay: Revelation is a series of time segmented symbolic visions, encompassing; past, present, future.. from Johns time perspective. So the first part of Rev 12 is a reflection unto the past. See my brackets 😉

      Rev 12:1-5 KJV – And there appeared a great wonder in heaven [Israel]; a woman clothed with the sun [?], and the moon [?] under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars[12 tribes]: And she being with child cried [messiah promise], travailing in birth [bondage unto law], and pained to be delivered [salvation promise]. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon [Satan], having seven heads [7 world empires] and ten horns [?], and seven crowns [?] upon his heads [Satan’s kingdom]. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven [fallen angels or demons], and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born [Herod’s ‘child’ rampage]. And she brought forth a man child [Jesus], who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron [future implication]: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne [Jesus’ resurrection].

      Thus ending with resurrection of Jesus. The next part concerns the future (modern times). As for the meaning behind the ‘sun’ and ‘moon’ I’m not sure, but the ’12 stars’ represents the 12 tribes. Regarding the ‘rod of iron’… 😉

      Rev 19:15 KJV – And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

  • jay

    I just realized that Christians are good people of criticizing catholics.

  • Francisky

    To all of you Catholics being hated and condemned by Protestants;
    Luke 6:”22 Blessed are you when people hate you,
    when they exclude you and insult you
    and reject your name as evil,
    because of the Son of Man.
    23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their ancestors treated the prophets.”

    • Dan

      Don’t forget to include the clergy that likes to molest children…

      Oh and don’t forget the gay clergy .

      Its just amazing how these things are being celebrated right in our faces..
      I have always said that excepting Christ is all that matters but I have to admit how God will include all of us will be his miracle and does not require my understanding ..

  • BGH

    I really like this Pope. He should be put in charge of all the baptist churches in the USA. Right?

  • carson

    didn’t they have a big to do when they started talking all about..seeking to remain relevant…and all the rest of the subject and what it entailed..

    To any and all me to, what does it mean, a little leaven leavens the whole lump? was the Lord only talking about ‘the law’ or doctrines of men or..anything, the world and it’s philosophy’s also so called sciences and more..yep any and all of the things which are not of Christ can be as leaven..’seeking to remain relevant’ is a stepping off point..don’t step off the ark huh else then you’d next become a ‘bridge builder’ and from there much worse..all those terms are simply pleasant way’s of saying compromise the word of God, make it pleasing to the world..
    ..and, pleasing to the world/pleasing to the flesh is not of God, it can never be since the flesh is never ‘pleased’ with the things of God and to make a gospel or word of God pleasing to the flesh only means compromised it to not be the gospel truth anymore.
    read romans 8.
    In Christ the flesh way’s and nature is to be mortified (and what does that say about the nature of the flesh?), not kept alive and fed, and the word is not to be watered down so the flesh would be pleased with it, if the flesh is pleased with ..a gospel..then it’s not the gospel.

    also one could wonder about some other reasons why many seek to ‘remain relevant’?..is there an element of ‘growing the church’ in there somewhere? and why is that such a popular term and goal today, and in aiming for that do people forget that God adds to the numbers/church such as should be saved, and not men adding to it? acts 2:47 and many others.

    could be said, better is a small church with truth then a mega church with falsities

  • Larry

    @ Blue Jay.

    Oliver B. Greene has a good Study of Revelation that I study & read.

    And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule
    all nations with a rod of iron: and her
    child was caught up unto God, and to His throne
    ” (verse 5). If you accept
    this child to be
    Christ (and certainly the child can be none other
    than the Lord Jesus Christ), then all
    misunderstandings will disappear.
    Israel – not the Church – was
    the mother of Messiah (Isaiah
    9:6, Micah 5:2, Romans 9:5, Matt
    hew 1, John 4:22, Isaiah 66:7)

    Revelation is a book of sevens:
    – In chapters 2 and 3 we have the seven churches.
    – In chapter 5 – the seven-sealed book.
    – In chapter 6 – the beginning of the seven seals.
    – In chapter 8 – the beginning of the seven trumpets.
    – In chapters 12 and 13
    – the seven personages.
    – In chapter 16 –
    the seven vials.
    – In chapters 17, 18, 19 – the seven dooms.
    – In chapters 21 and 22 – the seven new things

    • MRH

      Israel – not the Church – was
      the mother of Messiah .. Revelation is a book of sevens:

      @ Larry: The church was born out of Israels fallout. Yes Revelation is a book of sevens. Also each vision is time segmented, just like with other prophecies such as with; Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and also Jesus (Olivet discourse) 😉

  • kensme

    You profess the pretrib rapture and despise catholic christians. The rapture is a teaching that began in the 1800s. The Catholic church can trace it’s roots to the Apostles, and therefore Jesus Christ. Even Peter denounced the Lord because he was afraid and human and seduced for a short time by Satan. No human is like Jesus. What will you say to him if you are wrong on both counts? And all the people you have swayed?

  • Clay

    Darlene has done some of the reverent, stirring Praise songs I’ve ever heard. She seemed to be anointed when singing them. Really sad if she has strayed from the true Church.

    • Francisky

      Which is the true Church Clay? The one started by Charles Parham in 1900, or the one started by Jesus in 33 AD?

      • MRH

        Francisky: The ‘true Church’ is the ‘body of Christ’, not a religious order or organization.. world Church 😉

        Rom 7:4 KJV – Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

        1Co 10:16 KJV – The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

        1Co 12:27 KJV – Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

        Eph 4:12 KJV – For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

        P.S. Do you not understand, and must I further explain? Call me 😉

  • eddie santana

    No Francisky, the problem with people is that they’ll defend their positions whether they’re right or wrong (which in this case is wrong). If the shoe fits, then pray for knowledge.

  • eddie santana

    lol. So far undercover…I like that. : )

  • eddie santana

    I hope you’re wrong about Billy Graham…

  • kris

    Judaizer will be eternally condemned. From the book of Galatians. Who are these Judaizer? Are you a Judaizer? Beware for it is written… GOD WILL NEVER EVER LIE.

  • Allie

    Jesus did not come to bring peace but a sword! Jesus divides.. The world “coexists”

    The end is near I cannot wait to see my savior and worship Him forever and ever.

  • eddie santana

    “almost a century and a half AFTER the Christian Church that Jesus started was complete.”

    I think “complete” is not as good a phrase as “well underway.” I don’t mean to split hairs, but just to be more accurate. 🙂

  • Jez

    A very judgmental person. The one who write this article. Not only He is biased, and so called self-righteous christian.

    You said:

    “I never met a priest or a nun who could tell me for sure that they were going to Heaven when they died.”

    have you traveled around the world & ask every priest & nun in every country to finally conclude that thing? How about going here in PH? just letting you know. JESUS never judge people.

    • sooz22

      Every professing Christian should KNOW their saved.

  • Sola Scriptura

    Catholicism is not of the light and never has been. It puts men between the children of God and Jesus Christ himself, and the Pope claims to be Christ on earth. Many, many problems….
    http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/24/catholicism-and-the-worship-of-mary/

  • Pherski

    IF ALL PROTESTANT ARE ALREADY SAVED…WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE ON EARTH??? REMEMBER ONLY SAVED PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN…

  • eddie santana

    Read your bible Pherski, and find out all about it. (The Pope doesn’t have to tell you to do that, does he?) lol

  • Pieter

    PRAY FOR GOD’S KINGDOM TO COME QUICKLY. IN THE NEXT WORLD THERE WILL BE NEITHER CATHOLIC NOR PROTESTANT.Just saints that have overcome by the blood of the lamb.
    Pray and evangelize the gospel to the ends of the earth until the end of time.Trim your wicks for the bridegroom comes..

  • Francisky

    From the article:

    “I never met a priest or a nun who could tell me for sure that they were going to Heaven when they died.”

    ## Maybe that is because there are more important things to think of than that question, which is not even Biblical. “Going to Heaven” was not of any great importance to the inspired authors of the NT – they were far more interested in Christ. Those who care for nothing but their own salvation may end up in Hell – those who care for nothing but Christ and for their neighbour in Christ, can hardly avoid “going to Heaven”. Excessive concern with one’s salvation can easily be a form of selfishness 🙁 Christ’s Character is very different from that.

    Michael James Ba

    • MRH

      Those who care for nothing but their own salvation may end up in Hell – those who care for nothing but Christ and for their neighbour in Christ, can hardly avoid “going to Heaven”. Excessive concern with one’s salvation can easily be a form of selfishness

      @ Francisky: That is one of the most dumb things I’ve ever heard :LOL:

      P.S. You obviously know nothing about biblical salvation and more 🙄

      • MRH

        😆

  • Nico

    The only thing I have to say is you are assuming a lot of things in your article. How do you know what darlene talked about when she was there. Did you ask God what he is saying about her being there?

  • Larry

    OK, then why don’t you inform us since we do not know, then we will discuss it with you.

  • sooz22

    Me too!

  • Jaime Irizarry

    I really have respect for does who are working with the Holy Spirit in leading and bringing UNITY in the name of JESUS, not division. You Mr. Grider, and everyone else who are miss judging, lifting up false accusations and testimony among Darlene and manny others with what wisdom??? Oh! yea because you where in Catholic school for 12 years and had this experience or that other one, well then that makes you capable to say a lot about the complot and how they aren’t part of the Body of Christ. Let me only remind you and everyone else of something, Everyone who works for the unity no matter what Church’s last name will it be (Catholic, Apostolic, Baptists, Methodist, etc) but has the name above all name Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, that HE and ONLY HE is the HEAD of the BODY, of the CHURCH, SO PLEASE STOP HINDER the Church and name of God yourself, you aren’t the HEAD. The accusator is the devil are you making his vacation or you just delighted in divisions, the thief next to Christ wasn’t a member of any church, didn’t got baptized, never gave offerings, and many other things and RIGHT THERE it was JESUS, THE HEAD OF THE BODY, WELCOMING him to heaven. If you where there what would have been you accusations for stopping Christ to welcome him to heaven. Are you working here on earth as the Guardian Agent of Christ to point out who goes to where? Remember when even the disciple Jhon say to Jesus: “And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. not against us is on our part. For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward. And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” Mark 9:39-42
    Don’t let your “passion” for God blind you like the Pharisees of the time on Jesus that where so jealous for the Word of Moses, Abraham and Jacob that never saw that JESUS was really the Messiah, THE HEAD.
    God bless you and may God bring HIS mercy upon you and everyone with a Pharisees Religious Spirit which isn’t what God intended for us to be.
    Jaime Irizarry

    • Pieter

      This attack on Christ Body comes from the pit of hell. Be neither Catholic, Baptist, nor protestant.Rather see yourselves as Christians redeemed in the blood of Jesus, God’s own son who died rose and conquered death so all may be saved.!

  • Kathleen McKeithen

    According to the Bible there will be a final, one-world religion. Unity will be paramount over everything else. We are witnessing the phenomenal growth of what will become that one-world, totally unified religion.

    Those who take the Bible seriously and know it to be the Word of God know that much of Old Testament Bible prophecy was fulfilled in Jesus Christ’s birth, life, death and resurrection. In Matthew Chapters 24 and 25, Jesus tells us to watch and be ready because He will return just as He said He would.

    If you are reading this, and you do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, please, please seek the Lord while it is still day. For soon, the night is coming when no man/woman may work. Ask Him to save you from sin and death and He will do it. I know because He did it for me! My “worst day” as a Christian is a million times brighter and more joyous than my “best day” when I was lost.

    Hoping someone will read this and seek the Lord Jesus Christ! 🙂

    • MRH

      According to the Bible there will be a final, one-world religion. Unity will be paramount over everything else. We are witnessing the phenomenal growth of what will become that one-world, totally unified religion

      @ Kathleen McKeithen: And what will the coming global religion consist of? I think it may be the new age religion, which states; “We are all gods”. This idea reflects the lie told Eve back at the garden. It is also the philosophy behind the new world order. What are your thoughts on things?

      • Gregory

        I hope people don’t take you serious because you don’t have an understanding of the things of God .. You don’t know what your talking about

        • MRH

          On the contrary, I know exactly what I stated. It’s common fact with the new age people. Your problem is you misinterpret scripture.

        • Dan

          No, Mark it is you that misinterprets scripture brother. I myself have differing views, but reptilian/humanoid demon entities ; come on man. Come back to the light brother. : )

        • Uh Yeah

          Uh Yeah, I think you meant what “you’re” talking about.

  • Pieter

    I I could sing of Gods goodness and praise him like this woman can.I would go to the ends of the earth,on the highest mountain tops even to gates of hell.Praise and glory to Jesus the lamb who was slain so that we may be redeemed.!!

  • Jayjobz

    And here we go with the dogmatic theo christians who think that salvation is only for them. The command of Christ is to Go, ye therefore and make disciples. The job of these people is to influence and win our Catholic brothers in Christ. So rather than catching photos and destroying our fellow ministers, why dont you contribute by praying for them rather than making fuss comments and news about ministers.? You blow the shofar? Because I wonder why you make that as the logo of your webpage and still you dont get the meaning of its salavivic provision. Christ did not die just for your Church but He died for the whole nation and is now is risen and lives forevermore. God was asking Abraham to offer Isaac instead a ram was provided – Adonai Jireh, God provides and I believe that Darling Zcech and the rest are the provision to help our catholics back to Jesus Christ. So stop what your doing brother. Stop labelling or stiring bigot news and psycho accusations. Let the peace of God reign in your hearts

  • Peace

    Full stop. Do any of you realize this is a 100% false news report?? Why are you sowing fear and hatred? Baring false witness is not good. Do you even fact check before you spout lies? You know who wants there to be more lies and fear in the world, right?

  • Rien Galzer

    Our Pope has full of humility and patience. No anger towards other denomination because he respect them very much. If you see the picture how the pope welcomed the worship leader in Rome, in fact you’d feel how the Pope and the people in Rome opens its door to let them do their religious practices. simple because we Love one another. That’s our religion. Not all the time we will base on the content of the bible but how do we understand and practice them in our day to day lives. Their mission in Rome to lead the people to worship does not succeed because they planted hatred and dirty thoughts towards Catholics. The content of this article are all misunderstanding about our religious practices. Of course, how can we put positive feedback if we hate it? Stop judging Catholics. Understand instead. Salvation comes when your heart is free.

  • vietnamvet1971

    I am glad he is your pope I did not see you mentioned The LORD Jesus Christ in your comment. For me I thank GOD The Father for His Son Jesus Christ who has given me access to my Heavenly Father and I Profess, Confess, Proclaim & Declare JESUS CHRIST as my LORD & Savior and I do not have to worry about the pope, priest or any other man to help me reach GOD.

    So keep talking about your pope, pope, pope, pope.
    For me JESUS, JESUS, JESUS, JESUS after all it is ALL about HIM.

    • Rien Galzer

      Our Pope is the leader of Catholic Church. We did not say he is our Lord whom we worshiped. We just honor/admire him for being a good leader. Asking him to pray for us. Jesus is our Lord and savior. We rely to Him everything. Our Pope is our guide to strengthen our faith in Him (Jesus Christ) and relationship with one another as Bros and sisters in Christ. I am proud being Catholic, a follower of Christ, having regular prayer time, I worship and thank God for the blessings he has bestowed on me. We will not be shaken by your false utterances towards us. This is our faith and we stand on it. We even pray for your religion to be enlightened.

      • Gregory

        Rien Galzer, Your Pope claims to hold the place of almighty God on earth, claims to be infallible. Your Godless Pope of Rome claims to be the Vicar of Christ this Pope thinks he is Jesus Christ. The Pope of Rome is nothing but a FAKE a FRAUD and a LIAR! Your Pope Francis is the Devil himself! RIEN GALZER you can follow the Pope or follow Jesus Christ but you can’t follow both. Roman Catholics are not even Christian! The Roman Catholic church does everything in opposition to the Bible! Your Roman Catholic Cult is nothing but the Kingdom of Satan

        • Uh Yeah

          Uh Yeah, just wondering why your picture looks kind of dark and evil…kind of like Satan. Why represent yourself with that picture? It seems contrary to comment.

  • eddie santana

    Not intending to play the devil’s advocate, you really can’t look at the gaudy Catholic buildings, because there was so much gold and stuff in the Jewish temple. I would go by the (financial) lifestyle of those connected with the Vatican.

    • Rien Galzer

      is that how you judge Catholics? that’s poor!

  • Clearthinker

    Is this not all about angels dancing on the head of a pin…. or equivalent tosh??

  • jovic

    remember jesus join and fellowship with the most sinners, dont make judgement what we see in pictures, as brother in christ pray for darlene may the holy spirit of God guide her what God’s mission in that place

  • pieter

    i was raised by protestant evangelical missionaries,During this time living in foreign countries i was educated by roman catholic nuns.I have never expeirienced such devotion and holiness these selfless sisters had.They often would spend hours in silent prayer and seclusion praying for their wards.Some times as a child i could see the shakaina radiant glory of God on their faces when they emerged from the prayer chapel.i have no doubt at all that they had a relationship with Jesus Christ and they were baptised in his Holy Spirit.Pray ceaselessly that the Roman Catholic Church,and all christian denominations be drawn to repentance as we await the return of our Savior and Messiah.

  • eddie santana

    Always someone there to defend the underdog…whether they be wrong or right….

  • vietnamvet1971

    @ Rein, NO but the Word of GOD does ALL the judging we are just fruit inspectors and The Great Harlot False church is mentioned, talked about or have you not read that part like LOTS of people they just read what they want to hear.

  • eddie santana

    She’s singled out I guess because she’s supposed to be a “worship pastor,” but I don’t know about the others. I would call them worship leaders, but I don’t know about “pastors.” I think the term is used somewhat loosely.

  • People open your eyes before its to late!

  • Beaumont

    You have put the word ‘pastor,’ in small quotes, over the heresy of Catholicism.

    Good — http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/catholic_heresies-a_list.htm

    But, what about 1Ti 2:10-15

    The Protestant, doctrinal mainstream is telling us stories about gays but forgets the natural use of the woman. (Rom 1)

    It has been said that the entirety of the Bible can be summed-up, into a single word, redemption.

    This is portrayed in the concept of a marriage.

    So, besides her heresy, she is also a female ‘pastor.’

  • vietnamvet1971

    @ Gregory, people are so DECEIVED and Blinded by SATAN they refuse to listen or read the Word of GOD to see what it says about the End Times we are living in. You did not beat around the Bush Hopefully he will listen.

    Maranatha………. Our LORD Come Quickly. I am Looking, Praying & Listening for the Trumpet call of GOD and our LORDS Glorious Appearing.

    • Gregory

      They never listen they just argue and go back to their horned Marxist Clown of a Catholic Pope their rituals, sacraments, penances and lap up the same puke

  • Gregory

    vietnamvet1971, Deceived Yep.. Seems like a lot of these people read other men’s sayings, other men’s way of doing things and they continually move around in a fog lost. To bad people won’t come out of that and believe God take God for what He said. I got what I got on my knees and I know what I have is real .. I won’t argue with these people

  • Pieter

    Haya brother santana the kingdom of God is neither Catholic nor protestant .God’s kingdom is in the hearts3 of those that have received The God heads spirit sanctified and washed in the blood of Jesus…For whosoever shall call on his name and confess with their mouths that Jesus Christ is Lord to those he gave the power to become the sons of God..Be become so bogged down in dogmas and Mans ideas about what God is .That we box him up and label him with our sticker of Church that we forget that our Jenna almighty is not willing that any should perish..He can reach down and touch mankind through the blackest of nights or through the unholiest of donkeys (man made Church system).Praise God the Father ,Son and Holy Ghost!

  • April

    Based on the first video, its so sad to see so much celebration for a person and not really for Jesus, receiving praises and gifts from a queue of people. It kinda shows this is and will never be “the way” because it is in direct contrast to what and who the bible says is “the way”

    Huhu

  • eddie santana

    Anna, Jesus was never in bed with the world. Jesus’ big thing was “go and sin no more.” Francis has never counseled anyone or any group to sin no more.

  • eddie santana

    Francisky, Amos 3:3 says “Can two walk together unless they are agreed?” Yes, Jesus wants us to be one, but not at any cost, especially compromising the truth of the Bible and the gospel. Jesus said there are those that call him Lord but He says he never knew them. If you’re truly saved, you cannot disregard any portion of the Bible dealing with sin in our lives. If someone does that (like purported homosexual Christians), then we cannot be one, when there is deliberate, blatant sin in our lives; not sin we are making an effort to repent of.

  • jenseno

    I am a baptist by heart…whether she is a baptist or not…she is a preacher…but man..why are all of them submitting or recognizing the pope…from the time of the tertullian age up to now the baptists in history are not, but I think now some of them are kissing the ring of the pope…why on earth are they doing that….even if all preachers or ministers are kissing the hands of the pope or all baptist unite with the catholics in a religion…it will not turn me into one….for what matters to me is Jesus, my God and King….another thing, i dont know if I have seen it or interpreted it right, but look at the insignia or the symbol of the ministry of Joel Osteen…it looks like an eye with three nails scratches…. in the center….

    • MRH

      I am a baptist by heart…whether she is a baptist or not…she is a preacher…but man..why are all of them submitting or recognizing the pope

      @ jenseno: Baptist can mean true or false, depending upon the heart. But all true Christians can’t deny the Gospel can they? And may God open your honorable seeking eyes wide? This world is very dark, and deceptive. Demons pervade and deceive whomever they can. They communicate through symbols 😉

      but look at the insignia or the symbol of the ministry of Joel Osteen…it looks like an eye with three nails scratches…. in the center….

      So whom is Joel Osteen? Human or demon in disguise? You might find the following link of interest? 😉

      https://thetruthandlight.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/joel-osteen-the-prints-of-satan/

  • eddie santana

    Yes bro. Pieter, God can speak through a donkey, but that is the exception, and not the rule. If people get saved from error-ridden churches, that is because of the grace of God and His love for His people—not that the churches have any credibility. Remember Jesus said that a little leaven affect the whole lump.

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  • Catherine

    Hi Geoffrey,

    I’m really sorry you had the terrible experience of a catholic education and yet you emerged with very little understanding of catholic teaching. I think your issue might be with what you didn’t understand and not what the church actually teaches. You confuse lack of presumption (in not assuming we will go to Heaven because God is our judge but our hope is in Him) with the doctrine of good works (which should naturally follow when you are a follower of Jesus but not because you are trying to “win” salvation as you put it). If The Catholic church truly did believe in the necessity of good works, why then would we Baptise infants? What good works can an infant do in order to save themselves? Nothing, other than be. No, the Catholic Church believes that salvation is entirely unmerited and only by the grace of God can we be saved and all our good works spring from the grace that God gives. We offer Him nothing that He hasn’t already given us. Look it up if you don’t believe me. “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”

    ― Fulton J. Sheen

    • Dan

      Catherine, I always like to remember the common denominator of being a Christian is belief in the Gospel.

      But, I have a hard time with the damage that has been done by RCC papacy and those under it. Namely the molestation of children. Its unforgivable. If Christ got upset because Gods house was being turned into a marketplace do you really believe he would have just forgiven the Pope and its cardinals for the offense of pedophilia ? Christ would have burned the whole city to the ground. But, what do you and everyone else do; you justify not destroying the whole over the part. Seriously, Catherine the only choice you have is to leave and that I believe is what God has expected of all of you. Also do you see the problem of including all religions which the Pope is advocating? This is another sign that should have you running away from the RCC like your hair is on fire.
      Yet your here defending the misconception of salvation through grace and your saying it may be the reason millions hate the RCC. Catherine, what we perceive is you pretending something is still good when its not.
      So, the good or bad news for you is still God gives us choices Catherine.

  • eddie santana

    Hey dude, and all those with false names: why don’t you have the common decency to make your comments under a REAL NAME instead of hiding behind a false persona, trying to create some Great alter ego. For those trying to protect their privacy, I have news for you…you’ve given up your privacy the minute you entered an electronic discussion. Want privacy? Stay out of internet blogs…period. (Oh yes, you’ll justify it, but there is no justification.)

    • Dan

      Eddie , so how are you going to prove your name is eddie santana ?

  • Jude

    Who are we to Judge the motive of the person in doing so. God only knows her motive in joining the said event.She will account to God anyways if she had the wrong motives.
    Keep what the Bible says and not to base our faith on the action of other people.

    • Jude

      Don’t mistaken me. I am PRO to what Darlene, Don and other church leaders had done.In fact, I prayed for them before the event that Jesus be revealed to those who will witnessed their songs of worship.

  • Well JESUS yes it IS. I came back to the Cathedral and you all are acting anti. See you see it anti who? Christ. This is a church that the antichrist liked di vide. See you see it and get it Zschech wrong. NO YOU ARE. I came and she sung the Revealing Jesus Project 3. Well dont you all look like lambs sheep. I tell you the truth I need Israel. They will have JESUS that you throw away. GOD.

  • eddie santana

    You didn’t make any sense at all.

  • jazzpast@live.com

    The lot of you people are Roman Catholic trash that’s all you are. And my hand will never touch yours in fellowship. I curse you in the name of Jesus Christ! All you do is fuss and argue but what should one expect from the kingdom of satan

  • GREGORY

    Everything I wrote here on this site to you people is true and it will come to pass as sure as you live. Why was it true? Because GOD showed me the future. You said I wasn’t wanted here so I left. Rev. 10 It speaks of the angel standing on the land and sea, saying that time should no longer be. That time it speaks of is man’s time to rule on this earth. That time is coming to it’s end and that’s going to settle all men. Very soon there will only be new creatures in JESUS CHRIST ruling this world. Oh, and do remember telling me I was anti-christian anti-Christ? Remember this I’ll witness to your words what you said to me. I’ll witness to the master Jesus Christ ! The End Draweth Nigh for AMERICA !
    FAITH may begin with nothing but it ends with mighty things

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  • Don Moen has been a Satan worshiping Freemason for a while.
    Proof Don Moen is a Freemason

  • RebekaH

    The interesting thing about this artical is that I didn’t see where it specifically said that she was turning torwards the pope or Rome in a way that suggests that she is going to become a believer in Catholic doctrine or a follower of the Pope. It only suggested that she was excited that God was bringing her to new levels in her ministry and taking her to a place where she could minister to many more people through her worship. I could be wrong because I don’t know her heart but I didn’t read anything that supports the headline… Just saying

  • eddie santana

    Absolutely! God is no respecter of persons, so why would God allow people to die in their sins and live versus someone else because they’ve acknowledged Christ, which is essentially believing in God, when Jesus said that the demons believe and tremble, and Jesus also said that some that called Him Lord he would reject. Yes, salvation is secure, but only if you endure. (Like that rhyme? hehe)

  • JESUS GOD

    So why is everyone so forgiving. I taught you not to judge. I do it.I need all of you.Okay I need MY CHURCH display a small RED CROSS. The TRUE CHURCH WEARS IT.Antichrist church sit and ..does nothing. Are you for real? Yes.I came back May 1 2013..You did listen to Zschechs first sing in Revealing Jesus …the song is GOD IS HERE! Well Hallulujah. JESUS

  • Sam

    You can’t be saved by saying I read the bible, I believe in Jesus and I now I go to heaven, James: 2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, just as your heavenly father is perfect. Matthew 4:17 Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is hand. So to begin with you have to repent and to follow Christ’s teaching every day of your life, by only singing and praising and continuing to live in sin will lead you nowhere.

  • Mark Sutton

    I am saddened by Christians who fawn when they meet the Pope because he is just a man. In fact, I think the present Pope is more of a politician than a Christian leader. But I do think Catholics are part of the church, and are saved, if they put their faith in Jesus Christ (whether or not they feel saved). All salvation depends on Jesus, not our emotions at a particular point in time. The big question is whether we have a relationship with Jesus, not the level of certainty we feel (although we SHOULD feel secure because our salvation depends solely on Jesu upon whom we can and should rely, not ourselves). That is why God gets ALL of the glory and, if our hearts are right, any recognition we get is thrown at His feet (read Revelation chapters 4 and 5, for example). I think the foregoing is clear in the Bible.

    As for the doctrine of the pope, not even Peter (the posthumously proclaimed first pope) thought he was the pope. He wrote three books of the New Testament that never mention such a thing. Furthermore, he EMPHASIZED that Jesus Christ, and only Him, is the foundation stone for all of us.

  • Preston

    First of all, a lot of you are very ignorant including the writer this article or whatever this piece of trash he has here is called.CATHOLICS ARE CHRISTIANS.I don’t know how many times i will have to educate people on this.Christianity/christian is an umbrella that houses anybody/denomination that believes in Jesus Christ.Under Christianity, there are different denominations namely: Catholics, Methodist, Anglicans, protestants etc.The group that parade themselves as Christians are actually suppose known as protestants which has another subgroup under it called Pentecostals.So stop monopolizing the title Christianity/Christians to yourselves; you are protestants/Pentecostals. I’m a catholic and also a Christian. You are a protestant and also a Christian.Educate yourselves and be wise.
    You celebrate Easter today is Because of catholic Church.Your Pastor wouldn’t have know the date.Same with Christmas.Your pastor that started his church 10 years ago wouldn’t even know all these.
    You know nothing about CHURCH HISTORY AND THE PAPACY.You listen to what your pastor that started his Church 10 years ago tells you.The papacy started from Peter, to Linus and could be traced down to date.We have a rich history and tradition.The catholic church is the only Christian church that commemorate the life of Jesus in her liturgical celebration( the holy mass).I once went to a protestant service.They processed in, sang, preached, collected money, prayed, sang again and service was over.Go to the catholic church and see a difference for yourselves how the life of Jesus is celebrated in the holy mass.
    You say Catholics will go to hell.Who taught you first and your pastor about hell?You talk of the bible what, does your pastor know about the inerrancy of the bible and even the beginning of the bible.Get is straight, most practices in your various places of worship were taken from the catholic church.The catholic church remains a custodian of all christian values today.The apostles who directly were with Jesus are venerated in the catholic church today.Do you know Peter? His relics and tomb is under the custody of the catholic Church.What of Paul and Many others?We have them. Education wise, what do you know the catholic church’s contribution to the world today? Educate yourself and be wise.Leave judgement about who is going to hell or not for God.

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