Christians Must Brace Themselves For The Coming Persecution In Obama’s LGBT America

This week's US Supreme Court LGBT decision has set up a number of situations that American Christians must be wide-awake and prepared for. One of the first casualties in...

Churches who will not perform same-sex “weddings” can say goodbye to their tax-exempt status, and pastors who preach against the LGBT agenda must be prepared for jail time.

“Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.” Matthew 24:9 (KJV)

Rod Dreher, writing in an article in Time Magazine, has this to say about the recent US Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage: “LGBT activists and their fellow travelers will be coming after social conservatives. The Supreme Court has now, in constitutional doctrine, said that homosexuality is equivalent to race. The next goal of activists will be a long-term campaign to remove tax-exempt status from dissenting religious institutions. The more immediate goal will be the shunning and persecution of dissenters within civil society.”


This is the America that Barack Obama has created

America in 2015 has officially become a post-Christian society, led by the treasonous activities of our post-American president, Barack Hussein Obama. The massive paradigm shift towards the full-throated embrace of same-sex culture will be the main legacy that Obama will leave behind. That is if he actually ever leaves the White House. Obama ran for president on the platform of being a “committed Christian“, but obviously, he is nothing of the kind. He has completely fulfilled his promise to “fundamentally transform America”, and Christians are now in the cross-hairs of the coming persecution.

Obama’s promise has been fulfilled:

This week’s US Supreme Court decision has set up a number of situations that American Christians must be wide-awake and prepared for. One of the first casualties in the coming war will be the ostracizing of all those who will not go along with the “new normal”. Keep in mind that the LGBT have never wanted “tolerance” or “acceptance”, what they are after is control of the narrative, and this is exactly what Obama and the Supreme Court have handed them on a silver platter. Churches who will not perform same-sex “weddings” can say goodbye to their tax-exempt status, and pastors who preach against the LGBT agenda will be silenced. Already, we are seeing whole Christian denominations making the shift to embracing the LGBT agenda in order to preserve their income levels and avoid jail time.

“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” Romans 1:26,27 (KJV)

In our new LGBT-centric society, the Holy Bible will be one of the first casualties. Because the Scriptures clearly declare, in both Testaments, that God is against same-sex anything on any level, the LGBT police are busy rewriting the Scriptures and attempting to explain away what God has to say about the same-sex lifestyle. One of the most vocals proponents of this is Matthew Vines, who wrote a book called “God And The Gay Christian”. Vines is conducting a very active campaign to convince Christians that God approves of the LGBT lifestyle, and that the Bible doesn’t really speak against same-sex unions.

The LGBT’s relentless attack on the Bible:

Since most Christians do not actually read or study their Bibles, his slick presentation, I am sure, will serve to sway some of the them to his side of the argument. But Vines argument is filled with holes and easily defeated. First, there are no examples anywhere in the Bible of a positive example of a same-sex relationship. Not one. But there are hundreds of verses dealing with the man and woman relationship. Secondly, in Romans 1, where Vines is attempting to argue that Paul is really talking about “people who turn from God to worship idols” and not condemning same-sex relationships, he intentionally glosses over Paul’s main point. Paul refers to homosexual and lesbian relationships as “vile affections”, and finishes by saying that men with men and women with women are not natural, but against nature. That all by itself is a complete refutation of Vines whole argument, and all of Vines smoke and mirrors fails to explain that away. But what you see in this video is the future of Laodicean Christianity in America now that the LGBT is control of the narrative.

America, in the past, has been greatly used of God to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world. But that open window of evangelism effectually closed with the Supreme Court decision, as the coming dark days ahead will prove. Christians who will stay true to God’s word should not be surprised when their employment is terminated, when they are denied health care coverage for being anti-LGBT, and when they are hauled into court for “hate speech”. The tide has turned, and “one day, someday” has arrived. America in 2015 has become something that our Founding Fathers would only not approve of, but wouldn’t even recognize.

Are you ready for what comes next?



NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • allison webster

    Whatever happened to freedom in the USA?
    Isn’t it supposed to be freedom for all, whichever way people believe?
    Hear this in the “Freedom USA” song on YouTube:

    Or download the full single:

    • Alicia

      Freedom of speech only if is is approved by the left. The ones celebrating now will be next. That’s how it happened in my country, Cuba, they came after the Christians & the gun owners first & then everyone else.

      • agnes losonczi

        Now, come on, the christian churches themselves committed a long term persecution for long-long centuries against jews, gays and so on. Show me at least ONE occasion when they were seriously persecuted aside from arab countries. Another group gaining some freedom doesn’t mean that you must sqeak persecution, no matter that it sounds more elegant than just plainly admitting that you don’t want different ones to exist!

        • Arizona

          SCREW YOU TROLL AND CHILD MOLESTER,we know from history,WHEN queers are ignored they come after the children…so ALL you queers GET READY TO MEET YOUR DADDY SATAN,YOU HAVE STARTED “WW3”,and GOD will finish it,and ALL you BOGAS christians,get ready for WAR,your silence,and POLITICALL CORRECTNESS has destroyed america and allowed the queers and child molesters to take over…YOU’LL pay dear in the FEMA death camps for this…………

          • Mark

            How have child molesters taken over? It appears to me that the supreme court ruling (which, admittedly, seems to be a bit of an overreach. I’m not sure why the government is involved in marriage period, let alone why the federal government is getting involved) only affects two consenting adults.

          • Connie G.

            You appear to have many issues with he Christan life.

          • I thought Christians were suppose to win people to Jesus? Looks like you would rather hang them on a cross. What’s wrong Arizona? I hope you weren’t abused by someone when you were young, that what it looks like might be your issue? Calling people “Trolls, child molesters and, queers is so wrong. Read your bible and pray from deliverance from a foul-mouthed spirit. Just saying.

          • Jim Baldwin

            Sorry, I mispelled I meant to say “Pray FOR deliverance from”

          • Jonny

            Arizona, I hope you know that you are part of the reason America is in the position that it is in too. Comments like yours only fuels persecution. Yes we are against homosexuality, but Christ came for sinners to call them to repentance and they are included. We ALL would have been like Sodom and Gomorrah had it not been been by God’s grace (Romans 9:29) You are relating more to Jonah than Christ!

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Arizona – You ranting sounds like those of the Westboro ‘church’ malcontents from Topeka, KS.

            I do sincerely pray that you will read and study and Pray for understanding of “the truth” that is written in “the word of the LORD”:
            [43] ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
            ~ [44] But I say unto you,
            Love your enemies,
            bless them that curse you,
            do good to them that hate you,
            and pray for them which despitefully use you,
            and persecute you;
            [45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:
            for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
            [46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
            [47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?”
            (Matthew 5:43-47, KJB)

            I personally know that I am a great sinner that has been “born again” ~ only by the Continuous Wondrous Mercy and Grace of “the Lord Jesus Christ”, for I have accepted the “free gift” of Biblical Salvation:
            “For by grace are ye saved through faith;
            and that not of yourselves:
            it is the gift of God:
            Not of works,
            lest any man should boast.”
            (Ephesians 2:8-9, KJB)

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          agnes losonczi – For those few of us who are truly believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” ~ we are obeying that which is written in “the word of God”
          ~ For we are called to be ‘Watchmen on the Wall’, using “the word of the LORD” to warn those that question or deny “the truth” of “the word of the LORD”
          – to tell “the truth” that sodomy and lesbianism are Biblical SINS:
          [26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
          for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
          [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
          men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
          [28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
          God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
          (Romans 1:26-28, KJB)

          Followers of “the Lord Jesus Christ” need to tell “the truth” as it is written in “the word of the LORD” to those “few in number” who will listen to Biblical WARNINGS:
          Ҧ So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
          – When I say unto the wicked,
          – O wicked man, thou shalt surely die;
          if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way,
          that wicked man shall die in his iniquity;
          but his blood will I require at thine hand.
          Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; – if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity;
          but thou hast delivered thy soul.”
          (Ezek 33:7-9, KJB)

          • Jim Baldwin

            This is how I judge weather a believer is truly following Gods commands: First I ask them if they love people then, I ask them if they go to a Church that takes money from the government. You answered the first question Bro.Nic and you know your Bible. Please answer the second question.

          • Alicia

            Christ’s followers were left behind to instruct & witness to a lost word. Paul wrote many times on how a Christian should live his life. Remember Paul had persecuted many Christians.

        • mark Bernard

          Heard of the huegonauts? The annababtists? India has been a major spot for persecution, as well as Nazi Germany. The persecution your talking about was at the behest of the Catholic Church which is thoroughly anti Christian

        • Alicia Noda

          Give us an example of Christians persecuting gays?! The Catholic church itself has persecuted others including born again Christians.
          Got to the website ‘Voice of the Martyrs’ and you will find that Christians have been persecuted in almost every country of the world. Aside from Arab countries, Christian persecution in Russia, China, N.Korea & many more. From my native Cuba, they are still persecuting Christians.

          • Edwitness

            Amen Alicia,
            True Christians do not persecute anyone. We only tell them that their idols will take them to hell and that Jesus died for them to save them from that eternity. To them that is persecution. But, we know it is not. Real persecution is exactly what the voice of the martyrs describes as you said.
            Blessings to you and your’s :-}

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Alicia – Thank you for your truthful word of warning:

        Please – may those of us who truly are “believeth” followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”, may we remember:
        “These things I command you, that ye love one another.
        – If the world hate you,
        ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
        – If ye were of the world, the world would love his own:
        but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world,
        – therefore the world hateth you.”
        (John 15:17-19, KJB)

        • What happens to the faithful American Christians during this judgements?

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Mary – If it is before ‘the Rapture’ – ALL true followers of “our Lord Jesus Christ” may go through persecution.
            Look at our CHRISTian brothers and sisters in North Korea, China, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Cuba, …. (110+ countries) as current day examples.
            “Our Lord” personally said:
            “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:
            be zealous therefore, and repent.”
            (‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ 3:19, KJB)

            In “the word of the LORD” it is written about the Apostle Paul – who should be an example of faithfulness to us all:
            “Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more;
            in labours more abundant,
            in stripes above measure,
            in prisons more frequent,
            in deaths oft.
            Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
            Thrice was I beaten with rods,
            once was I stoned,
            thrice I suffered shipwreck,
            a night and a day I have been in the deep;
            In journeyings often,
            in perils of waters,
            in perils of robbers,
            in perils by mine own countrymen,
            in perils by the heathen,
            in perils in the city,
            in perils in the wilderness,
            in perils in the sea,
            in perils among false brethren;
            In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often,
            in hunger and thirst,
            in fastings often,
            in cold and nakedness.”
            (2 Corinthians 11:23-27, KJB)

            Yet the wonder of the Continuous Wondrous Mercy and Grace of “our Lord Jesus Christ” is:
            “The LORD is good,
            a strong hold in the day of trouble;
            and he knoweth them that trust in him.”
            (Nahum 1:7, KJB) + Isaiah 26:3-4 + Habakkuk 3:18-19, KJV

    • Danny

      There is a hot place waiting for those of this sinful, perverted actions. If you are in that group, you have a short time to repent of the abomination the Bible calls it. Deny all you like. Justice from the LORD is coming. Judgment on this nation is underway. New England is floating away and the far west is burning alive. Call if mother nature all you like. There is no such thing as mother nature. If so, prove it? You can’t because it does not exist. God is real and you and those who practice this abomination will one day stand before the LORD God who will, if you do not repent, find yourselves in a place that you deny. Deny all you like. Say it ain’t so Joe all you want too. But, it is coming. Believe it or not, does not change it.

      • agnes losonczi

        Then LEAVE IT TO THE LORD, and don’t you ever dare hurt them by your shameful self-justification! Haven’t you heard about the Lord’s dismay about pride? The highest sin! Where is this humility in cristians?!

        • Connie G.

          I believe many Christians do not want to place or wish harm on homosexuals but they are very concerned about the moral decay becoming even more extreme because of the same-sex ruling.Yes,it will heighten the levels of immoral values greatly.This is a sin that will cause a lot more problems in this country even among the gay communities.Yes their is many sins but this one in particular will blow everything out of proportion and God knows that and that is probably why it is called an abomination to God.

      • Mark

        Do you have the same sentiments towards those who get a divorce (

        What about those who remarry (

        Let us not forget that God once demanded death by stoning for adultery (

        I agree that homosexuality is a sin. If you believe in God. However, not all Americans do. Do you think Jesus would be happy to hear your hate? Supposedly the most important commandment is to love, but as I look over this thread I see an overwhelming amount of ignorance, tyranny, and hatred.

        • Dan

          Mark your right and its hard to imagine what Jesus would say about all of this .. I believe Christians are upset and rightly so and frustrated because they see so many things wrong with our brothers and sisters. Too many are like the fat bloated lazy rich kid who’s parents have given their kid everything except responsibility .. We have been poor stewards to our country let alone the world.
          We have allowed preachers to become rich . We have allowed TV evangelist to feed the lazy instead of the personal touch of a neighborhood church. We have allowed career politicians to become fat instead of making them accountable with the promise of jail time if they are corrupt. The church is sick and I’m afraid will become sicker.. We are too fast to condemn and forget the simplest of lessons left by Christ which called us to love each other above all else !

        • Susan Johnson

          Agnes and Mark are greatly confused and highly deceived….

          They are in the pro-Homosexual camp…the militant Homosexual Agenda. Their defense is the old repetitive “haters gonna hate”

          They have no idea as to the difference between Judgement and Discernment…this identifies them as those who do not read and study Scripture, but would rather label God-fearing Bible-believing Christians as “prideful and judgemental. Ignorance is not bliss.We pray for them, that they will come to the knowledge of the Truth…the Truth being that there is absolutely no defense of the Homosexual lifestyle…or is it deathstyle?

          Examine the Bereans in the Book of Acts. Turn away from sin,
          ask for forgiveness and REPENT.
          REPENT NOW….before it’s too late.

        • Jack

          Mark says that the Bible once punished adultery by stoning. Likewise homosexuality was punished by stoning. Jesus abrogated the punishment of stoning for adultery. Remember, the crowd was going to stone an adulterous woman, and Jesus said, “Let him who is without sin throw the first stone.” Then crowd dissolved. He told the woman to go and sin no more. Adultery remained a sin, and one may divorce an adulterous spouse. But the severe punishment is not in place. However, this ruling legalizes homosexual marriage, going further than toleration. Actually, laws against sodomy were declared unconstitutional, so homosexuality was already legal in the USA. So, the analogy with adultery doesn’t apply.

      • Connie G.

        Danny you are correct.Did everyone watch the video’God and the Gay Christian’? The gay people are good at twisting everything around and trying to convince people they are right.I believe most know that the gay behaviour,same-sex marriage is all in one boat incl.the homosexuals.They only want you to question whether right or wrong.I do not understand how anyone could interpet it as anything but against God’s word.I do not want anyone to misunderstand the consequences incl. those who condone this behavior because they will probably be held accountable too.The same-sex behavior is a great sin otherwise it would not be described as an abomination to God.They need to understand. This new ruling is going to cause so many more problems.I do believe we need to explain this in the manner Jesus would.It will not be easy.

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Connie G. – You should be most thankful unto “the Lord God Almighty” that you can say – ‘I do not understand how anyone could interpret it as anything but against God’s word.’ –

          The following is my Biblical understanding of the levels of ‘devilution’ of those who deny “the truth” as it is written in “the word of the LORD”


          “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these;
          Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
          Idolatry, witchcraft,
          variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
          Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like:
          of the which I tell you before,
          as I have also told you in time past,
          that they which do such things SHALL NOT INHERIT
          ~ the kingdom of God.”
          (Galatians 5:19-20, KJB)

          “For the time will come when
          – they WILL NOT ENDURE sound doctrine;
          – but after their OWN LUSTS shall they heap to themselves teachers, having ITCHING EARS;
          – And they shall TURN AWAY their ears from the truth,
          – and shall be turned unto FABLES.”
          (2 Timothy 4:3-4, KJB)

          – “And many FALSE PROPHETS shall rise,
          – and shall DECEIVE many.
          – And because INIQUITY shall abound,
          – the love of many shall WAX COLD.”
          (Matthew 24:11-12, KJB)

          – “And with all DECEIVABLENESS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS in them that PERISH;
          – because they RECEIVED NOT
          the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
          – And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION,
          – that they should believe A LIE:
          – That they all might be DAMNED who BELIEVED NOT the truth,
          – but had pleasure in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.”
          (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, KJB)

          “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
          – that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM the faith,
          – giving heed to SEDUCING SPIRITS,
          – and doctrines of DEVILS;
          – Speaking LIES in HYPOCRISY;
          – having their CONSCIENCE SEARED with a hot iron;”
          (1 Timothy 4:1-2, KJB)

          – “And even as they DID NOT LIKE to retain God in their knowledge,
          – God gave them over to A REPROBATE MIND,
          – TO DO THOSE THINGS which are not convenient.”
          (Romans 1:28, KJB)

          “…, yea, the time cometh, that WHOSOEVER KILLETH you will think that he doeth God service.”
          (John 16:2b, KJB)

      • Jim Baldwin

        This is how I judge weather a believer is truly following Gods commands: First I ask them if they love people then, I ask them if they go to a Church that takes money from the government. Please answer my question, Thanks

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Jim Baldwin – Sir, You give not even one (1) verse from “the word of the LORD” to support your harsh personal judgments.
          NO – I will not answer any of your questions – for I care not how you choose to judge me.
          You are not Biblically qualified to be the judge of me or of any other man or woman of where we personally stand with “the Lord God Almighty”.

          Have you given any consideration about what my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” personally warned against judging in “the law of the LORD”, the Holy Bible?

          [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged.
          [2] For with what judgment ye judge,
          ye shall be judged:
          and with what measure ye mete,
          it shall be measured to you again.
          [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye,
          but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
          [4] Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye;
          and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
          [5] Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
          and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
          (Matthew 7:1-5, KJB)

    • Gregory

      The Roman Catholic Pope Francis is behind everything Obama has been doing in the United States from all the illegals, Islamic Muslims flooding into to our country to gun control and Global Warming that Godless Anti-Christ Pope Francis is behind it all. And he will be the reason thousands of Christians become martyrs. He will be behind real Christians being persecuted here in the United States and it’s coming..

      • boocat

        Francis is a jerk, not the anti-Christ. He is a Marxist yutz. King Barry is a crypto-muslim, America-hating socialist fully capable, with the help of his friends – guided by the precepts of Saul Alinsky – of setting up the destruction of the finest country that has ever existed in world history.
        Please do not kid yourself; the attack on Western Civilization originates from the snake-pit of Mecca, home of the true False Prophet.

      • Peter

        Don’t be so utterly stupid. If you are by nature anti-Catholic then your first reactions is to blame the Pope or the Church. That is evident.

        The Pope has reaffirmed the position of marriage: One man, one woman.

        He is therefore disagreeing with Obama, not supporting him.

    • Arnie

      freedom of religious behaviour is enshrined in our Constitution–see 1st Amendment. what the court has said is the rights of gay people trumps religion because their form of sexuality is a civil right, on par with race. this is pure folly!

      • agnes losonczi

        freedom of religious behaviour is allowed UNTIL YOU DON’T HURT OTHERS! Look at your own household and leave others be!

      • Mark

        Hello Arnie,

        Freedom of (and from) religion is one of our cherished rights as Americans. How are the rights of gay people trumping religion?

        It appears to me that religious folk were trying to impose *their* rules on secular folks. This looks like the government telling religious people that they cannot impose their will on the secular. No one is saying that you cannot practice your religion, or even voice your opposition to people’s choices. You just can’t stop people from doing things that you don’t agree with simply because it violates *your* religious beliefs. This is America, not Saudi Arabia.

    • Indijana

      Oh my god, this is happening!

    • Nenad

      Open your eyes!

  • Interesting insights that we should take seriously. Ironically, during WWII, tax-exempt status was removed from any church in Nazi controlled countries that did not have Mein Kampf on the alter instead of the Bible, and i believe, a photo of Adolf Hitler instead of a cross. During that time the parishioners were also kept ignorant of the plight of those being killed in the Holocaust, and thus the churches were used to make the people complacent.

    • David C

      Pamela,what you just spewed out of your mouth is total BS!!! Where did you get these lies from?

      • Dan

        There you go David…. Spew and bs is little much don’t you think

        • David C

          Dan I don’t believe this crap either.

          • SammiD

            David, truth is always truth. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant! Your opinion changes nothing.

      • Alicia

        Know your history. I knew a gentleman, he and his wife were imprisoned in a concentration camp just for the fact that they were both Catholic.

        • Gregory

          That’s funny because Adolf Hitler was Roman Catholic just like Pope Benedict XVI RATZ who was nothing but a NAZI child molester. The Roman Catholic Vatican was full of NAZI RAT’S Left over from Hitler. Don’t feed me any filth about your Godless Roman Catholic CULT of Mary. You worship images and statues of Mary you practice Idolatry pagan heathen worship. The Roman Catholic harlot leads people by the thousands into Idolatry and the lake of fire. The Vatican holds the most evil body of men in this world the Cult of Mary is an Abomination to God

          • Alicia

            First of all, I am not Catholic. I believe the Catholic church to be the harlot & this pope to be the false prophet. Just wanted to let you know why my friend & his wife were imprisoned. He did persecute Catholics too. I also believe that Hitler gave to the Catholic church so he would have salvation. The Catholic church has been in the business of selling salvation for centuries. I also have read plenty on the popes. Many of them were degenerates.

          • The Infidel

            Well – NObama claims he is strait – a Christian – and an American. I guess you just can’t believe every thing.

          • Leo


            …evil is everywhere 😉

          • Peter

            AS a Catholic, I don’t know whether to laugh at you or take pity on you with those comments.

        • terri

          He may have been born Catholic BUT he was an avowed atheist. Also something not a lot of people know but not only did Hitler kill 6 million jews he also killed 7 million Christians as well as untold number of twins, gypsy’s, the mentally ill ect. At the beginning of his reign of terror Hitler would call for certain segments of the population to do their duty to their country and help the war effort. Most of those people were the first ones to go to the concentration camps.

          • Fiona

            Hitler was not an atheist. Plain historical fact. He believed he himself was an emissary of Providence.

        • Fiona

          It’s just not true, Alison. Nobody in Nazi Germany was imprisoned simply ‘for being Catholic’! The whole of Bavaria is Catholic! Hitler himself was Catholic!
          People who were Catholic were sometimes imprisoned for acting against the regime or speaking out against its policies or for helping Jews and so on. They may have refused to take an oath in Hitler’s name, for example.
          They were not imprisoned ‘for being Catholic’. Catholic churches stayed in operation all through the war and after the war, it is notorious that the Pope helped some really bad Nazis escape to South America. That’s because the Nazi never persecuted the Church and in fact, Hitler used to talk up his own Catholic background to impress the Pope.
          The Pope helped Nazis escape. Mass killers. He regarded Communism as worse. Now, the Communists really did persecute Christians.

          • David C

            Fiona and communism is…jewry!!!!

            The American Hebrew September 10, 1920:

            “The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”

            “We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.”

            (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)

      • Alicia

        Hitler gave his “tithes” to the harlot (Catholic church) to ensure his salvation.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        David C – You do not even realize that you are fulfilling Biblical Prophecy by your hateful comments:
        “But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts,
        glory not, and lie not against the truth.
        This wisdom descendeth not from above,
        – but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
        – For where envying and strife is,
        – there is confusion and every evil work.”
        (James 3:14-16, KJB)

  • John

    I am not a currently a pastor nor in favor of homosexual unions. That being said, churches do not perform weddings, ministers do. Churches are safe. If a mosque/Iman refuses to marry a homosexual couple does anyone really think any judge is going to go after their tax exempt status? That would go against the entire leftist agenda of supporting Muslim minorities. It isn’t going to happen. When ministers perform weddings they are only conducting a ceremony; in the US the state confers marital status through a license. That way they get to collect a fee. Ministers who officiate weddings free of charge and have declined to marry heterosexual couples or would do so for scriptural reasons should have absolutely nothing to fear. Just keep a record of those whom you have declined to officiate their nuptials and the reason from this time forward. Magistrates are not so fortunate.

    • terri

      President BO has already threatened to review the tax exempt status of ANY church who refuses to marry gay couples and since he is destroyed the Constitution by several of his actions why would it surprise anyone that he does so. Actually I am waiting for him to declare martial law and then place a halt on elections so can remain in office. The US has declared martial law before but the current president at that time did not stop any elections from being held…He does NOT have to go thru Congress to declare martial law according to how i read the that part of the Constitution. The 1st martial law was during WW II and also during the Boston Bombing and even though law enforcement took advantage of this and would look into peoples homes who had NOTHING to do with the bombing the people were very happy to let them violate and step on their Constitutional rights. You know what the Boston citizens shows BO and his cronies we will not mind martial law..There are already out of country police forces in the US and when martial law is declared they will be the enforcing it and let me tell you they have no loyalty or love for the United States or its people. Our current President is a muslim and he is destroying our country.

      • Mark

        Why should any religious institution (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Sikh, Wiccan, etc) in the US get a tax exempt status?

        • Why should the NFL, a business that makes $10,000,000,000.00 per year, pay no taxes??

  • k Cannon

    I saw it yesterday on facebook there was a comment posted stating that the law for same sex marriage is not only a sin but an abomination in Gods eyes , it was just a discussion amongst christians than lesbian females and gay men came on and were cursing us for speaking the truth , we even had one that said oh that is in the old testament we dnt follow that and another who said that homosexuality , was not the reason God destroyed Sodom and Gamora , clearly they dnt read the Bible and its obvious to a blind man that they havent read Revalations , and this is the way things are to be now in the world , our faith will truely be tested

    • Connie G.

      That could have been me.I made that statement in a Chrstian manner on facebook because it is true.The reason I placed that comment was because their are many lukewarm Christians that may not realize that homosexuality is not just a sin but an abomination to God.

      • Dan

        Sister, there are no Luke warm Christians around .
        Those who claim they are Christians will be obvious I love the bible but we have to believe that anything that separates us is wrong!!
        If a brother or sister comes to u and tell u they are Luke warm. Explain to them that they can no more change their sir names than they can change Gods Love for them. Think about it ? We are condemned because of an act of trust.. I’m Crying…. Trust Him !

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      k Cannon – Even if those sodomites that choose to stay in, or self-justify their ‘death style’ (as someone else so aptly noted)
      IF they even read the Holy Bible
      ~ “Christians” must know and remember that which is written in “the truth”, “the word of the LORD”:
      “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
      – for they are foolishness unto him:
      – neither can he know them,
      because they are spiritually discerned.”
      (1 Corinthians 2:14, KJB)

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Ps – AND “the truth” of 1 Corinthians 2:14, KJV applies to ALL who reject the “free gift” of Biblical Salvation!
        That also includes many that occupy pulpits and pews in ‘churches’ here in ‘Amerika’
        – those that ARE NOT truly “born again” believers and followers of “the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” – who personally said:
        “Marvel not that I said unto thee,
        Ye must be born again.”
        (John 3:7, KJB)

  • Rick Thomas

    the video only proves all the more of how twisted the minds of people can be. Even a fool could see that God created marriage between a man and a women, how else can you be fruitful and multiply.

    • Leonard

      The gay community is more concerned with the “fruitful” part of it…

  • John

    Do not preach for against the LGBTQ agenda. Preach Jesus and the importance of having a personal relationship with him. Live personally for him, and pray that God’s will be done in every way that applies to everyone. The Holy Spirit will apply that as He will to everyone listening. As long as Muslims can quote and preach from the Koran with impunity Christians should be able to do the same.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      John – I personally disagree with your comment about not preaching against the LGBTQ agenda.
      Isn’t that exactly the attitude that most of the “hireling” ‘pastors’ had in Nazi Germany when the Jews and other ‘undesirables’ were being transported to the ‘Death Camps’?
      How few there are that remember what the German Pastor Martin Niemöller said –
      ‘First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Socialist.
      Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
      Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Jew.
      Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.’

      It is my Biblical understanding that a large part of the reason for the lack of influence of ‘the church’ here in ‘Amerika’ is because most ‘pastors’ and individuals did not – and still do not – often, loudly and clearly preach or teach of the horrendous abomination of the evil of FIFTY-EIGHT MILLION+ Babies that have been ‘legally murdered’ since January 1973 here in this evil, wicked, and increasingly spiritually dark country. When is the last time that you saw anyone from ‘the pulpit’ truly weep and personally repent of the evil of condoning – for their lack of belief in action – or to ask anyone from their ‘congregation’ to also repent??????
      NO – that might disturb our ‘comfort zone’, after all were are the greatest country with the greatest churches on the face of the earth – if you do not believe it – just ask, and we will be glad to boast upon ourselves.
      HOWEVER, “the Lord Jesus Christ” who is “the way, the truth, and the life” personally has some very harsh condemnations to tell those few who will listen – about “the church of the Laodiceans” in ‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ Chapter 3, Verses 14-22, KJV.

      It is also my Biblical understanding that those few of us who are truly believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” ~ we are to obey that which is written in “the word of God”
      ~ For we are called to be ‘Watchmen on the Wall’, using “the word of the LORD” to warn those that question or deny “the truth” of “the word of the LORD”
      – to tell “the truth” in Biblical love – that sodomy and lesbianism are Biblical SINS:
      [26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
      for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
      [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
      men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
      [28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
      God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
      (Romans 1:26-28, KJB)

      Followers of “the Lord Jesus Christ” need to tell “the truth” as it is written in “the word of the LORD” to those “few in number” who will listen to Biblical WARNINGS:
      Ҧ So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
      – When I say unto the wicked,
      – O wicked man, thou shalt surely die;
      if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way,
      that wicked man shall die in his iniquity;
      but his blood will I require at thine hand.
      Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; – if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity;
      but thou hast delivered thy soul.”
      (Ezek 33:7-9, KJB)

  • chris johnson

    well we could all see it coming under this government Obama got his way i wonder how long before the rest of the world will follow?this is only the beginning.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      chris johnson – It is already happening

      – Prime Minister of Luxembourg Marries His Beau –
      Xavier Bettel is the world’s only current head of government to be legally married to a same-sex spouse. | Advocate com | BY Thom Senzee . May 17 2015

      LEGAL SODOMITE ‘MARRIAGE’ (alphabetical) = 21*
      ‘Amerika’ / Argentina / Belgium / Brazil / Canada / Denmark / England and Wales / Finland / France / Iceland / Luxembourg / New Zealand / Norway / Portugal / Republic of Ireland / Scotland / South Africa / Spain / Sweden / The Netherlands / Uruguay / *Mexico {limited}

      LEGAL SODOMITE ‘UNIONS’ (alphabetical) = 15
      Andorra \ Australia \ Austria \ Columbia \ Croatia \ Czech Republic \ Ecuador \ Germany \ Greenland \ Hungary \ Isle of Man \ Israel \ Liectenstein \ Slovenia \ Switzerland

      I wonder how much of this Biblical Prophecy is already fulfilled?
      – “And even as they DID NOT LIKE to retain God in their knowledge,
      – God gave them over to A REPROBATE MIND,
      – TO DO THOSE THINGS which are not convenient.”
      (Romans 1:28, KJB)

  • Abigail Sanders

    In all this, I find a possible interesting facet of Hegelian dialectic. At the same time the LGBT population is given a free pass to come out and register their status, to the government through their procurement of marriage certificates, we are also seeing an increase in Muslims being re-located in the US as well as allegedly extremist Muslims coming over the open borders. Looking at the movement and advancement of Sharia Law in what was once our country, (but now has been claimed by our Muslim president to be ‘his house’), I’m wondering if there is an even more sinister plot at work here.

    • Sally

      Now THAT’s very interesting!!!!

  • j

    Homosexuality is deviant and twisted in all it’s forms.
    I made a post on a U.K. forum. I simply put “Us supreme Court approves gay marriage in USA” and a link to it.
    I was shocked at the replies dogging me and my antiquated beliefs. I was asked my personal stance and I told them I was against it and thought it was the precursor to judgment. And that I also had a problem with it not being enough to be accepted, but rather forced on the rest of society.
    It had the result of stomping a bees nest barefooted.
    I spoke with respect as I was being told I was wrong ,gays are born that way etc.
    I didn’t debate the matter because it is a lost cause if the replies are as indicative of the culture there as I think. It is sad,the U.K. seems to loathe the Bible and anything pertaining to GOD.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      j – I have also personally noticed similar reactions here in ‘Amerika’ to anyone that quotes what “the word of the LORD”, the Holy Bible says about sodomy and lesbianism. Such strong adversarial comments were not so common, so plenteous, or so strong even a few months ago.
      There are a few Biblically sound Preachers and Teachers that have come to the Biblical understanding that the ‘devilution’ of mankind is not all at once, but that it starts slowly and then increases exponentially the closer we get to ‘the Rapture’.
      My observation is that the deterioration of mankind is increasing exponentially more and more by the day – literally!

      – “And with all DECEIVABLENESS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS in them that PERISH;
      – because they RECEIVED NOT
      the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
      – And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION,
      – that they should believe A LIE:
      – That they all might be DAMNED who BELIEVED NOT the truth,
      – but had pleasure in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.”
      (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, KJB)

      “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
      – that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM the faith,
      – giving heed to SEDUCING SPIRITS,
      – and doctrines of DEVILS;
      – Speaking LIES in HYPOCRISY;
      – having their CONSCIENCE SEARED with a hot iron;”
      (1 Timothy 4:1-2, KJB)

      – “And even as they DID NOT LIKE to retain God in their knowledge,
      – God gave them over to A REPROBATE MIND,
      – TO DO THOSE THINGS which are not convenient.”
      (Romans 1:28, KJB)

      When will it happen here in ‘Amerika’ and Britain and the other countries that more and more openly despise, loathe, hate and reject “the truth” given by “the Lord God Almighty”?
      “…, yea, the time cometh, that WHOSOEVER KILLETH you will think that he doeth God service.”
      (John 16:2b, KJB)

      It truly makes me personally wonder how close we are to the time when it will again be that:
      Ҧ And GOD saw that the WICKEDNESS of man was great in the earth,
      and that every IMAGINATION of the thoughts of his heart was only EVIL CONTINUALLY.”
      (Genesis 6:5, KJB)

      “And as it was in the days of Noe (Noah),
      so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
      They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage,
      until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and DESTROYED them all.

      Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot;
      they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
      But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and DESTROYED them all.
      Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”
      (Luke 17:26-30, KJB)


      ~ BUT ~ for those of us who truly are “born again” believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” – we have the eternal blessed assurance that:
      “… If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
      And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
      (John 8:31b-32, KJB)

      “The LORD is good,
      a strong hold in the day of trouble;
      and he knoweth them that trust in him.”
      (Nahum 1:7, KJB) – also Isaiah 26:3-4 | Habakkuk 3:18-19, KJV

      – CAPITALization and emphasis of “the word of the LORD” mine – Bro. Nick

  • Sueawatcher

    I have my faith and no one can take that away. God resides in my heart and soul. It will be there till my last breath. They may try to change us, but God is always in control.

    • Tracy

      @Sueawatcher, Amen!
      Regardless of our future, they can’t take the Holy Spirit, that resides inside every Christian, away from us. God is with us!! We are never alone!! Praise Him!!

  • My blog post when the announcement was made. I make this post as a christian American . . . FROM THE HEART: SUPREME COURT DECISION IS WRONG

    Because marriage is a very integral part of Jewish and Christian Biblical religion, and Jesus defined marriage as one man and one woman – our Federal government, and some States are overriding our religions of free choice and forcing state sponsored religious laws on Americans. This is anti-Constitutional. We broke with Great Britain in part due to Englands forced state religion. Not only in forcing churches and synagogues to perform heretical marriage services, but in forcing Jews and Christians to commit heretical acts in their daily work – the necessary activity defined by our Biblical teachings that we must do honest work if able. We are required by the very nature of our religious faiths to be Jewish and Christian in all aspects of our lives.

    Further, sacred marriage in my Christian religion requires I understand Jewish marriage to understand Christ’s relationship with me in the 69 weeks of the Christian Church Age and Salvation. Christ then returns His attention primarily on His Jewish people, and returns to save the remnant at His return to begin the millennium.

    Many like me have pointed out that the 90 % of Christians who have not read / studied their Bibles would cause suffering of all Christians in America. This ruling by the Supreme Court (5 to 4 with dissenting judges writing scathing rebuttals of how the Supreme Court has acted outside of its legal bounds), would have never happened in my parents or grandparents generation (mine are crying out in shame from their graves).

    “Matthew 19:4-6 KJV And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

    Copyright © 2015 by Juanita Holloway-Walters, All Rights Reserved

    As the day moved forward I added this thought:
    The reaction to our Christian Religion being changed by state sponsored religious dictates is shocking. Where is the outrage at our government dictating Christian and Jewish religious precepts? Did our troops for over 230 years fight for our freedom? – and often suffered injury – or the greatest price for freedom – paid with their lives – die in vain?

    • Sally

      Could you please explain what you mean by “69 weeks of the Christian Church age”? Thank you

  • Tusitala

    The Living God and His Word are unchanging, immutable, and eternal. The world may do as it pleases, but I stand with Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible forever. Jesus, the Son of God, humbled Himself to become a man, he suffered persecution, shame, slander, torture, beatings, and was crucified and died alone and abandoned by many who swore that they would never leave his side or deny Him. Jesus rose again, He ascended to the Father, He is returning, may we hear His voice soon. Our Lord Jesus Christ, true God and true man, paid a terrible price for our sins. Whenever I think of how I grieve Him on a daily basis I cry in shame, and ask Him once again to forgive me and help me to endure. I will never deny Him before anyone, He is the King of Kings, my Saviour, my best and truest Friend, He is my everything. The rest of the world may ridicule, persecute and even kill me, but I will not be moved or shaken, “For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth…” Job 19:25

    • suez

      Amen Sister!!!!!

    • Lauren

      Amen, and Amen!!!

  • Yesterday social media blew up. I couldn’t believe what I was reading, especially from people of Christian faith. I am tremendously saddened by the amount of Christian leaders that have been deceived and are in turn deceiving their congregations. We are not supposed to judge and we are supposed to love each other but we are also not supposed to lie, even worse to teach lies that homosexuality is OK. Pastors and Christian leaders are charged with keeping congregations safe and not watering down God’s word. This isn’t just about homosexuality, this is about all sin (adultery, lying, envy, murder/abortion, etc…) no one is without sin except Christ but it is never OK to support sin. What I saw yesterday made me angry, sad, and feeling that the Church is slipping farther away from the truth.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Nicole Wallace – Are those few of us who are truly Biblically “born again” believers in “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” to judge – YES ! ! !
      – except about whether or not a person is truly “saved”.

      The Apostle Paul wrote some very harsh things about those that withstood the work of “the Lord God Almighty” – even ‘naming names’ – for he personally said:
      “Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil:
      the Lord reward him according to his works:
      Of whom be thou ware also;
      for he hath greatly withstood our words.
      At my first answer no man stood with me,
      but all men forsook me:
      I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.”
      (2 Timothy 4:14-16, KJB)

      How are other followers of “our Lord Jesus Christ” to know that Kenneth & Gloria Copeland, Benny Hinn, Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Texe Marrs and many many others are “false prophets” and/or “false teachers”?
      – We are warned in “the word of the LORD” in very plain, clearly spoken, non-politically correct words the fact that there will be more and yet more in these ‘end-of-the-end times’ we are living in RIGHT NOW ! ! !
      “But there were false prophets also among the people,
      even as there shall be false teachers among you,
      who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,
      even denying the Lord that bought them,
      and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
      And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
      by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
      And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:
      whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not,
      and their damnation slumbereth not.”
      (2 Peter 2:1-3, KJB)

  • Patrick S

    Our “Blasphemer In Chief” has done it again. He said God works in mysterious ways regarding the supreme courts “gay” marriage decision. God hates sexual perversion and will judge it! Obama sings amazing grace in celebration of the decision. He is an utter disgrace and an insult to Christian America. The Writing is On The Wall.

  • Jerry

    Vines, of course, is an apostate! But, the fault for this lies squarely at the feet of Christians. Modern Christians are largely ignorant of God’s Word. They mostly also have a skewed idea of grace: it is freely offered, but repentance has to come with acceptance of grace. The sinner must be willing to turn from his/her sins. God’s grace is not a free ticket to sin willfully.

  • Dan

    Geoffrey says “are you ready for what’s next”?

  • great article, but please stop showing pictures of “sodomites” (KJV) kissing and hugging,
    The more we see this the more it will be accepted by your audience.
    Thanks so very much!


  • Welsh Hayley

    I have one word to say………
    MARANATHA!!!! …. May God bless you all with strength, boldness and truth in these very special days xxxxx

  • Or should I say bless “us” all! We sure do need HIM xx

  • With all due respect, David C, you might want to do your own homework before taking aim with someone else’s position. I have found documentation to this effect in a number of history books which I will track down later today for you. In the meantime, here is something available to you online:

    BTW, have you even heard of Deitrich Bonhoffer and the Confessing Church? :-0

    • cm

      David C…why aren’t you BANNED from this site yet!?!?

  • Alicia

    God put in every human an innate sense of right & wrong. And I know they don’t have total peace & joy with their choice of being gay. And all this comes down to is that they think they will feel better about their choice if everyone accepts their homosexuality-or force everyone to accept it. And am sick & tired of people saying we are forcing our views on others when it is the opposite!

    • Connie G.

      The gays know they are wrong.They are wanting to be accepted so they will no longer feel uncomfortable.The same goes for athiests.We all sin and God forgives us when we ask.But I do not believe all sin is created equal.That would be like saying I had an argument with my neighbor and told myself well I already sinned then I might as well murder them.Where is common sense in the world?I do not see too much.The Holy Bible says homosexuality is an abomination to God.It also says homosexuals may not enter the Kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9,10. But not only that particular sin but many other serious sins stem from that.Even if you are not a gay person if you condone it.That does not mean that you are not to love family members and friends in that situation.Love them and try your best to explain their eternal destiny and which path leads to a glory filled forever after leaving this earth.I am not sure when the rapture will come pre or mid tribulation.But I believe the final four blood moons is a major sign that is to happen Sep.15,’15 will be a huge message from God above.He says he will show us signs and wonders.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Connie G. – My Biblical understanding about ‘the Rapture’ and ‘signs’

        -1) ‘the Jewish feast days’ and various events are for “ISRAEL” – they are with ‘signs’

        ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ BUT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

        ~2) the promise of ‘the pre-tribulation Rapture’ is for “THE CHURCH” ~ WITH NO ‘signs’ ~:
        “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven WITH A SHOUT,
        and WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD:
        and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
        Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together WITH them in the clouds,
        to meet the Lord in the air:
        and so shall we ever be WITH the Lord.
        Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words.”
        (2 Thess 4:17-18, KJB)

        “He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
        Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
        The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be WITH you all.
        (‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ 22:20-21, KJB)

        ~ CAPITALization and emphasis of “the word of the LORD” is mine – Bro. Nick

  • Marilyn Hult

    I guess we all forgot about AIDS. I see an epidemic coming but then again, maybe that’s what Obama wants. He should be arrested for treason on so many levels and I don’t understand how this Muslim is still in office. He’s proved time and again that he is no Christian. If people are gay there’s nothing we can really do about it, however, according to my second amendment rights I’m supposed to have the freedom of expression of religious belief. According to this ruling Christians would have to follow what the federal government says not what my God says and as for me and my house we will follow the Lord. I will never accept gay marriage…..EVER

    • Connie G.

      You know I have not even thought of aids.I have been so concerned about the same-sex marriage it was not foremost on my mind.You bring up a major issue that could run rampant.I believe we will see many more gays welcome to the idea that they will be accepted so they might as well become gay after all many are doing so.Since they do not believe in God then no problem until they die and cannot go to heaven.They need to understand that the alternative is a literal burning hell.If they came to Texas right now they would understand hot.I cannot imagine the heat here being greatly magnified.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      The Biblical commands in “the word of the LORD” that “thou shalt not” were given in true love by “the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy”, “the Lord God Almighty” for our protection and for our own good.

      My understanding is that HIV/AIDS has been a global pandemic for many years, and that fewer than 10% were even reported 20+ years ago.
      There are also a number of different Cancers that are sexually transmitted. – yet where is the ‘news’ or the real warning of the results of violating Biblical warning?
      It seems to me that the old saying ‘figures lie – and liars figure’ is very relevant.
      As mankind is told in Romans, Chapter 1, KJV:
      [24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts,
      – to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
      [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
      and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,
      who is blessed for ever. Amen.
      [26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
      for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
      [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
      – men with men working that which is unseemly,
      – and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

  • The Abomination Barack Hussein Obama ( BHO ) is a FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL and SYMPATHIZER!!


    BHO HATES CHRISTIANS and JEWISH PEOPLE!! BHO is Anti-Christian ( Antichrist )( 1 John 4:3 KJV )!!

    The Abomination Group LGBT MAFIA is UNGODLY, UNHOLY!! The Abomination Group LGBT MAFIA NEEDS to REPENT from their SINS!!

    The Abomination Group LGBT MAFIA NEEDS too know YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST as their LORD / KING / MESSIAH / SAVIOR into their HEARTS and SOUL’S NOW TODAY!!

    Our Judeo-Christian Nation United States of America is being DESTROYED by LEFT-WING LIBERALS / PROGRESSIVES / ATHEISTS / HUMANISTS / LGBT MAFIA / and the muslim brotherhood within our Judeo-Christian Nation USA!!

    “TRUST in the LORD with all Thine HEART and lean NOT on thine own understanding, in all thy ways Acknowledge HIM and HE Shall Direct thy Paths” ( Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV )!!

    Thus: Please Everyone “TRUST in the LORD (ADONAI ) YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST with all Thine HEART and SOUL TODAY, HE LOVES Ye All Everyone Forever”!!

    Yeshua-Jesus Christ is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE, NO one comes unto the FATHER, but through ME ( Yeshua-Jesus Christ )!!

    Thu: YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST is the only WAY to enter into HEAVEN!!

    Because of the HEBREW TEXTS ( SCROLLS ) we have CHRISTIANITY and JUDAISM!! Only Devout JUDAISM and CHRISTIANITY is RIGHT as we have the same GOD who art in HEAVEN!!


    YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST is KING of kings, LORD ( ADONAI ) of lords, HE is the ALPHA and OMEGA, the FIRST and the LAST, HE is the BEGINNING and the END, HALLELUJAH!!


    Remember Everyone that our True GOD’S LOVE is STRONGER than satan’s hate!!

    Am Yisrael Chai FOREVERMORE!! Shabbat Shalom Everyone!! Happy Shavua Tov Everyone!!

    Love Always and Shalom,


    • sooz22

      Thanks, Kristi Ann. Your posts always show your unwavering faith and is a testament and an inspiration to all of us that follow Jesus Christ!

  • Andrew A

    1 peter ch 2 covers this rather well.

    1 Peter ch2 (kjv)

    1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

    2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

    3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

    4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

    5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

    6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

    7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

    8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

    9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

    10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

    11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

    12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

    13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

    14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

    15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

    16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

    17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

    18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

    19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.

    20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

    21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

    22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

    23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

    24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

  • Wendy

    One thing that I find interesting and that I’ve not read anything about: this country is becoming a haven for radical Muslim extremists….and they HATE and KILL homosexuals! Should the Lord tarry, it will be interesting to watch.

    Perhaps ISIS or their like will very well turn on those who are celebrating now. What goes around WILL come around, and nobody can blame us Christians for it!

  • carson

    it’s true many..christians? don’t read their bibles (and how can a person go without eating? how can a newborn not desire to eat/have milk and grow to eat meat-still born? examine ourselves to see if we be in Christ..)
    And an overlooked portion of verse-those who do not gather with Christ scatter..matt 12:30, it’s one of those simple laws of God like reap what we sow, a person cannot live without the Word coupled with faith (hebrews 4:2) else what is some’s faith based on anyway? a ‘feel good’ notion of self or some other man?

    But also with others the prophetic word is ignored and but why is prophecy given, blessed are those who hear and heed these words rev 1:3, john 14:29, told u beforehand that when it comes u might believe-builds faith and more blessings.
    so those who ignore prophecy/do not..apply/, are minus some important blessings, are like a car with 2 or 3 tires, cause themselves hardships in ever getting down the road.
    Those who never read anything of the word are..well I never grasped it..stillborn? 2nd timothy 3:5, those with a form? we should always check ourselves to see if we be in Christ 2nd cor 13:5 and phil 2:13, it is God who works within you both to will and to do of His good pleasure, if one has no drive to gather with Christ..warnings ought to be shouted to them, loving God the highest thing after all and not gathering with Him and learning from Him in the word and worship and more ..if that’s you-please wake up, save yourself from falling away.

    yes persecutions come, been thinking on rev 12:12-17 some lately

  • I read the bible and I clearly understand that marriage is between a man and woman. I still have a question about homosexual marriage. I believe people are born gay. There are many who commit suicide because of this. All say they knew they were gay from their first memories. Wouldn’t God want these people to be happy too, maybe not by the biblical definition of marriage but some kind of union? If any one could answer me this question I would appreciate it.

    • Yorm

      Yes some gays are born that way because it’s in their DNA. We all know that alcoholism can run in the family. Murder can also be something you are born with. But being born gay doesn’t make it holy in the eyes of Jesus. We are all born sinners and have a sin problem and thankfully we have Jesus that paid for all sin of the Cross.

      • Wendy

        Hi Yorm, being born gay just doesn’t make theological AND logical sense to me!
        The Lord calls homosexuality an abomination……why in the world would He MAKE them that way??!? He is holy and pure. I just don’t see that He would do that! Just does not sound like the Jesus I know…

        • Yorm

          Being born gay doesn’t mean that God made them gay it just proves that we are born sinners.

          • Wendy

            I am not that scientifically-minded, however, the good Lord is the One who creates each person’s DNA. It is to that reasoning that I responded to you.

            I can understand that “gayness” could be appropriated through environmental factors in childhood, but I have trouble believing that it began in the DNA strands that He creates.

            Blessings to you, Yorm!

    • joe

      Sorry to disagree but no one is born gay. No one is born an adulterer or fornicator. They make decisions to be that way. Some men may be effeminate and some women may be somewhat masculine but they are not gay until they decide to follow that lifestyle. No one is born a murderer, they make decisions. No one is born Christian, they make a decision to become one. Life is pretty much about decisions-individual decisions.

      • Fiona

        Such rubbish. Tell it to the boys who dont respond to the porn another kid brings in…who are repulsed, at age 11 or 12 by the sight of naked women when all the other boys are in awe. Those kids get the same PHYSICAL response from naked men. They are too young to ‘choose’ and you cannot ‘choose’ to be gay anymore than you can ‘choose’ to be straight.
        I mean, dont be ridiculous. Do you think you yourself could just choose to get aroused by men because it looks like a naughty lifestyle? Dont be an idiot. Try and think for yourself. How do you know you are straight? How do you know you are a man, for that matter? You just know, for certain.
        So do gays. They know.
        And spare me ‘what the Bible says’. First, Jesus said that people arent bound by Old Testament laws. For example, the OT allows divorce, but Jesus says it is wrong. The Bible said not to eat pork: Christians abandoned those rules. People used to believe that the Bible said blacks were inferior: but no longer.

        You cannot go with Corinthians or Romans or all the other letters of Paul because so many of them are forgeries that you cannot really know what he said, plus Paul was absolutely certainly a closeted homosexual himself. People in those days were married: Paul wasnt, very strange for a man of his age. His disgust with the married state is very telling and his strictures against being gay ring very hollow, and his his arguments for celibacy are pathological..nobody in those days thought the human body and sex were disgusting and said ‘its better to marry then to burn”..that marriage is tolerable for those who cant control their disgusting bodies. This is the language of someone in denial about something….And lots of people in the Roman Empire found themselves very tempted by the sexual free-for-all, but their customs forbade it, so they were torn and they were struggling and battling themselves…look at Paul’s mad energy, running around organizing everybody..displacement much?
        He’s like one of those pastors that scream the loudest against gayness and turn out to be totally gay themselves.

        • Ellie

          You have some serious issues!

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Fiona – You choose to delete from “the word of the LORD” the writings of the Apostle Paul – approximately 1/2 of the New Testament.
          Have, or do you also think that the very strong warning written by the Apostle John, and all others should also be removed from “the scripture of truth”:

          “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
          If any man shall add unto these things,
          God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
          God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
          and out of the holy city,
          and from the things which are written in this book.”
          (‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ 22:18-19, KJB)

          There are additional warnings about ‘tampering with the word of God’ written in:
          Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32 | Proverbs 30:5-6 | Ecclesiastes 3:14-15 | Galatians 3:15, KJV

    • Sally

      There is NOTHING that God cannot heal. Anyone who comes to Him, desiring His true and perfect way in their life can and will be healed. He raised the DEAD, healed leprosy and many other physical defects whether they were born that way or became ill, cast out demons and healed mentally ill so He can also heal this affliction of the mind and heart.

      • Wendy

        To Joe and Sally:
        Amen and Amen!!

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Mary – True Joy and Peace comes only from being a Biblically “born again” believer and follower of “the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”!
      “Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee:
      because he trusteth in thee.
      Trust ye in the LORD for ever:
      for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:”
      (Isaiah 26:3-4, KJB)

      There is NO place written in “the truth”, “the word of the LORD” that condones or allows sodomy or lesbianism.
      Those who choose not to confess and repent of their SIN – whatever that SIN may be – have chosen to deny “the Lord God Almighty”, calling Him a liar – and have thus chosen to be “children of the devil”
      – the following are “the words of truth” as they are written in “the word of the LORD”:
      “He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
      For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
      that he might destroy the works of the devil.
      Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
      for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
      In this the children of God are manifest,
      – and the children of the devil:
      whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,
      neither he that loveth not his brother.”
      (1 John 3:8-10. KJB)

      • Thank you and God Bless

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Mary – You are most welcome – but let all praise be unto “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” – for they are His Holy Words:
          “Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us,
          but unto thy name give glory,
          for thy mercy,
          and for thy truth’s sake.”
          (Psalm 115:1, KJB)

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  • Yorm

    I would say to anyone that claimes to have been born gay that all sin separates us from the Holy Sinless Jesus who we call Father and our only Father you must turn from you’re sin and Jesus will give you a new heart. You can be born gay but don’t die gay so let Jesus make you a new person

  • Dan

    Yorm, how do we reconcile being who we are ? What has God done

    God gave us choices Yorm… Its that simple..

    But who will bring us together ? My eyes are open !

  • Yorm

    Dan I’m confused with what you’re reply

    • Dan

      I’m sorry Yorm. Now ,looking at my post I too am confused. I was on too many sites at the same time last night so I understand why ,but as to the meaning of my post ; I don’t remember were I was going with it (sorry).

      So let me try again. Yorm I’m assuming you have a father and being that that is true ; you also have a grand father and so on. This is who you are in the context of your lineage. And you would agree there is nothing you can do to change that(its impossible) So it is with the Christian and the body of Christ. Sin is dead in the body of Christ of which all Christians belong. John explained it in 1 John 3:9 KJV. We are limited in our understanding still as am I but I am happy to understand this(maybe its one of my blessing ; no in fact in all humility it is a blessing to me) Yorm so just as you cannot change who your from (regardless of what you do) ; so it is with sin . What we do that would be considered sin has never been the issue with God because it is the symptom of being part of Adams lineage. Rather it is what separated us From God because of what Adam did that had to be changed. This is what Jesus/God did on the cross. In the same way you are from your dad here on earth; so it is you are now part of God.

      What ever you do now will never change that. Now on the issue of Christians and sinning. We should try to be the best we can be to honor God. But, the anger you may have (doesn’t affect your salvation) the lust you may have (doesn’t affect your salvation ) etc.. In the hopes that I don’t need to right a book here on where I’m going with this ; I’m hopeful you understand my point. I am not finished but this is good for now.

      Also let me say I in no way pretend to believe I am a teacher of any kind. You and I are just 2 brothers in Christ trying to understand our creator.


      • Fiona

        To ‘right’ a book?
        Why is it that Christianity and stupidity and ignorance and illiteracy seem to go hand-in-hand? Its all over these comments. Half-witted people who say gay people ‘choose’ to be gay: sure, they ‘choose’ at age 12 to not physically respond when another boy brings porn to school; gay men ‘choose’ to get hard when they see a naked man…etc

        • Dan

          Fiona , what is it you don’t understand about the expression to right a book(laugh). I almost wrote this entire post without catching this first Fiona (WRITING A BOOK) Sorry about that and I’m sure you’ve made similar mistakes yourself but thanks for pointing that out. I have Begged Geoff to allow us to (edit) our posts but I think he’s busy. As for Christianity and ignorance unfortunately God blesses all of us ; even the stupid ones. Still I’m not sure if your were agreeing or disagreeing with me. So from your tone I’ll say the latter. We can start with ignorance and being stubborn. If you care to reread my above post to (Yorm) and understand it ; you will find I am saying it is finished. But, on the issue of homosexuality I will admit I am divided. I am a nurse and science is making it hard for me to deny the fact that these people may be born this way. So, in all humility I ask where does this fall with scripture and for the sake of argument I will tell you but I hate to waste this on someone who doesn’t believe in God, and if this is the case then the issue was never really homosexuality in the first place .
          But, to all my Christian brothers and sisters. I have struggled with this issue and what I feel has happened is homosexuality is our doing (mankind). This has come about and is a manifestation of our being separated from God for so long. The condition of a hermaphrodite may be a good example ,and is something that we all know as a fact ; where is God in this? Was this person born this way and of course the answer is yes. So is homosexuality any different ? Again were back to my expression of me writing a book because this is a deep and thought provoking subject so I would again refer you back to my post to (Yorm) to explain what I believe is the end result of all of this.


  • dan lloyd

    Well folks the persecution is here. We must steel ourselves to the fact that we must remain loyal to the cross even if it means prison or death. The antichrist and the false prophet are on the scene and the shmita is September 13. With this supreme court ruling America is done…………

  • Yorm

    We are in this world but we are not of this world

  • edwitness

    In much the same way that those preachers who preach “name it and claim it” or “blab it and grab it” because of their lust for more and more money, there will now be those who are exposed because of their desire to remain “relevant” in this new lgbt… environment. They will say things like, we need to be accepting of them because Jesus loves them or some such nonsense. Watch for this to develop as the noose tightens on these “professional preachers”. Just who a person really is comes out when they are put under pressure. And when the money dries up it will expose those who are there because of it.
    Of course Jesus loves the lgbt… But remember, Paul told the Corinthians, and by extension all of Christianity, to throw the man out because he was in sexual sin and proud of it.
    There is no difference between him and the lgbt… Throw them out and keep them out if they will not repent.

  • Yorm

    Joe you do understand that we inheret disabilities from are bloodline like heart disease or high blood pressure and we would say that’s physical but we also inheret mental issues like maybe you have the urge to murder people and after watching it on tv you can help but act it out in real life. We honesty can’t prove yet weather you are born gay or not but you can prove the acting out on you’re sexual urges is biblically a sin.

    • joe


      I do understand and I also understand what God said about visiting the iniquities of the father unto the third and fourth generation of those who hate Him. This has to do with mediums and fortune tellers. I am saying that I may have urges to commit fornication but I am not a fornicator until I choose to follow through. This is why it is a blessing to be born to Godly parents who teach you truth and don’t follow the ways of the world. A lot of our behavior is learned. Not trying to stir up dissent but just expressing my beliefs. God bless!

      • Yorm

        Joe would you agree that we are born sinners. Babies are not held accountable for sin because of their innocence

  • edwitness

    Who cares what so-called science says about it Yorm? Science has been trying to catch up with the Bible forever. Germs(all of the washings), the earth being roundIsaiah40:22, how the earth hangs on nothing Job26:7. These and more were in the ancient writings long before modern science figured it out.
    And the fact that God made them man and woman to be able to multiply rejects the notion that anyone is made that way. No homosexual activity can do that by natural processes. So no, God did not make anyone a homosexual. It is a choice just like being a drunk or being a murderer is.
    Give these reprobates no quarter in their choice to be homosexual. God doesn’t. Remember Sodom and that other place?

    • Fiona

      Who cares what science says? Right. So, very slowly and carefully and painstakingly assembling evidence. Coming up with a hypothesis. Testing it. Re-testing it. Having independent peers retest results again. Always be ready to change and abandon an idea if better evidence comes along. Always be open-minded. Never say the answer is final, because we are aways learning..slowly, carefully…
      The Christian way: Declare an old book to be the absolute truth. Why? Because the book says it is…and because I have a kind of burning feeling whenever I say ‘Jesus’. Anything that doesnt fit the Bible story must be discarded or something made up. Example: the Flood destroyed the animals. So no animals in therefore they must have got there somehow. I know! The sea was filled with trees knocked down by the Flood. The animals rafted over on the trees. With no water or food. It must be true because the Flood s true because the Bible says so.

      Seriously? The Bible is true..but somehow doesnt manage to include all the thousands of years of people living in caves, being hunter-gatherers, of being nomadic tribes…then agriculture appearing in different parts of the world, and developing…
      No. The Bible (and you Christian) simply ignore all the evidence, all the tools that have been found, all the settlements, all the burial sites and all we can learn from them..
      The Bible just says, it goes: Adam and Eve to farming. In one generation. Shepherds and farmers. In one go. The whole history of earth is only 6000 years. Its just so pitiful
      I have seen Christians claiming that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. Gigantic reptiles…according to Christians, are only the size of sheep. And the people domesticated them! They could ride dinosaurs and use them on the farms!
      Sure. Take a look around and tell me the reptiles you see today which are domesticated. You cant domesticate reptiles. Dinosaur bones, dinosaur waste, dinosaur eggs tell us they were not the size of sheep. No human settlements have ever been found with dinosaur bones as part of daily life. We know ancient humans had cows and dogs and so on by finding their bones in the rubbish heaps. We know people rode horses and camels by studying ancient pictures, inscriptions and finding harnesses. There are no dinosaur harnesses, no pictures of people riding dinosaurs.
      In fact, some Christian idiot has found a kind of dino-shaped doodle on a wall and claims it ‘proves’ dinosaurs lived with people. One scribble that could be anything as opposed to a gigantic mountain of evidence that people and dinosaurs didnt co-exist; thousands of settlements built on the same places for thousands of years, throwing their rubbish in the same place…bones of sheep and dogs and horses and camels …never ever dino bones…but never mind, just ignore that.
      There is no ‘science’ in the Bible. The people who wrote it DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF RAINFALL.
      No, God didnt ‘make’ anyone gay. Because there is no God and he ‘made’ nobody. But even if there were a god and he ‘made’ people, you explain to me how it is that gay people know they are different by age 7. At puberty, some boy brings porn to school. Remember how you responded? The gay kid didnt. He had to pretend…

      • Dan

        Nice post Fiona ,and to the spirit of science ; homosexuality cannot be proven. There are no precursors no gene that is indicative for homosexuality ; which is why the evidence points to choice. As for children take a psychology class in (Child development). All of us go through a phase of gender identity. But, the issue is not homosexuality is it. You don’t believe in God. So why are you here ? Did you have a bad day so your spreading truth to the bipeds not expecting to be heard?
        You point to a book and decide there is no God. (Really) That’s what did it for you(laugh) Listen Fiona your wasting your time here. Have you heard of (Transference ) ? Go kick your dog or cat or
        significant other or whatever ; it’ll feel better than shouting at the stupid kids . How do you go through life without seeing the majesty of the human body and instead come out with evolution? This is were the 4000 year old book comes in. Its a testament to a creator Fiona and if your just pointing to its fallacies your missing the point of the book. Fiona the reason We know there is a God is because we have not lost the ability to believe, and its something I don’t expect you to understand. Your wasting your time here.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Fiona – You have made a very foolish choice in your denial of “the Lord God Almighty”, for “the word of the LORD” clearly says:

        “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
        Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity:
        there is none that doeth good.
        God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.
        Every one of them is gone back:
        they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good,
        no, not one.
        Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread:
        they have not called upon God.”
        (Psalm 53:1-4, KJB)

    • Connie G.

      I sorry David that I got my post on your post.Not sure how I managed doing that.

  • edwitness

    Instead of just blowing it off as ridiculous, why not see if there is any truth to what Gregory is saying?
    It is my understanding that pope John Paul II was a gas salesman to Hitler’s Germany. And that IBM created Hitler’s filing system for him.
    Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
    And Roman Catholics do bow down to graven images. Peter told the man to stop bowing to him because he was a man just like him. Acts10:26. Roman Catholics should take a lesson from that and stop the idolatry.

  • Yorm

    Edwitness I never said that God made them gay in fact God can’t sin and would never cause us to sin. If a woman is pregnant and has aids the baby will be born with aids. I’m discouraged that you put words in my mouth

  • Yorm

    Sin has caused complete destruction of our body and mind. If Adam and Eve had not disobeyed God they would still be in the garden of edon and never experienced death

  • Harry Mark

    How can a homo sexual “marriage” relationship be equal to a normal sexual marriage? Homo-sexual relationship marriage CANNOT produce children ,where as a normal marriage can

  • Kelly

    Time to move to Russia.

  • Helencakes

    It is very sad to see people who claim to be good, caring people (for isn’t that what your precious christianity is built on?) can be so full of hate! Isn’t it possible for you to see that there is nothing wrong with two people loving each other? They are not hurting anyone, all they want is to love! Isn’t that what your god is all about?

    • Wendy

      To answer your question,Helencakes, no, that’s not all what God is about.

      Please consider reading the Bible for yourself…….I think you’ll like Who you may meet there!

      Blessings to ya!

  • Yorm

    Helencakes Whats sad is that people go to hell when Jesus paid for the sin of the world. It’s sad that Jesus will not get his full reward because many reject what he did on the cross.

  • David James

    Why do people compare Christian teachings of love for God’s truth with “hate”? Simple, because they are not truthful themselves.

    On the issue with churches and religious organizations “losing tax exempt status” – I ask why should we care? It’s inane to think that this government granted “status” is somehow instrumental in spreading the truth of The Gospel of Salvation.

    It is clearly a sign of weakness for churches and Christians to look to government to grant them “permission” for anything at all. What’s wrong with paying taxes, whether church or person? Sure it’ll cost church goers more, but so what? Should we kiss the boots of oppressors that hate our God?

    Grow up Christian soldiers!

    And for everyone else – Acknowledge you are a sinner whose sins offend God, and accept His forgiveness of all our sins and His offer of salvation and eternal life, through childlike faith in Jesus Christ, even as simple a faith as that mustard seed of faith in Christ as expressed by the malefactor on the cross next to Christ. Jesus paid the penalty for our sins, and “whosoever believes on Him shall not perish, but have eternal life”.

    • Randy

      So easily you would give away the Christian gifts of the church to the government which proceeds to advocate gay relationships and abortion. What people give to the church out of dedication for God does not belong to the state! This isn’t a matter of weakness–its a matter of spirituality. We keep our churches going through our funding of them. If the government can take their money, they are crushing our rights to send that money the way we want. This is written by a person who gives only to his church, because he is sick of seeing money being spend on so many sinful causes.

      • Dan

        Sorry Randy I agree with Davids point. The church will still refuse to acknowledge the union of same sex couples and also being that churches can no longer claim tax exempt status ; maybe we will stop seeing abominations like Joel Osteens . The fact that churches cannot afford now to be on TV is also a blessing .

        Also, remember concerning taxes Christ said give to God what is Gods and to Cesar what is Cesar’s

  • agnes losonczi

    Come on christians, this law has ENDED one side of GAY PERSECUTION and doesn’t forces anyone else to change their life unless one is stupid enough to keep negativ, discriminativ values as one’s life! Enough of you always to feel that the world is ending when one of your feather is pulled!

  • cm

    @Geoffrey:) Thank you so much for posting this story! We Chrstians need to be prepared for HUGE persecution. This is just horrible, but we are living in the last days. Geoffrey, Do you think that this will come to Canada too???

    • Yes, I think it will come to Canada as well. Canada will follow the US….sad to say but true.

  • edwitness

    By the other responses you got to your comment, it seems others got the same idea that I did from the way you wrote your comment. Not trying to put words in your mouth brother. From your comment I thought you were saying that they might be born that way.

  • What we don’t hear about so much now, as, in hindsight, everyone can see what a monster Hitler was, is that he was first a great deceiver. He had no intention of going to war with Western Europe, and hoped to take over that land through pretending that he wanted peace. His eyes were set on Russia, to which he wanted to expand to give the German people more room.

    Hitler was very charming and charismatic in his early years. He even captivated the Prince of Wales, who briefly became Edward VIII and his wife-to-be Wallis Simpson. He also gained the support of Charles Lindbergh, Henry Ford, and Joseph P. Kennedy, who was called back from the Court of St. James by FDR as a Hitler appeaser. Whomever will end up on the world stage at the Anti-Christ will also at first be a great deceiver, coming in with what look like good credentials, great charm and an ability to motivate others. We must always be ready for that…

  • David C

    Pamela,this sounds like a bunch of jewish fables.

    • David C, I am telling you right now….the next anti-Israel or anti-semitic comment you make, you are BANNED….

  • edwitness

    God had this planned since before the world was made. Adam was not a spiritual being. 1stCor.15:45 He was only natural. A body with air coursing through his lungs. A living soul. Which is a living breathing creature.. Gen.2:7. The breath God placed in Adam is the same breath God breathed into animals and birds. Neshamah in Hebrew. Gen.2:7 & 7:22.
    For man to worship God he must be spiritual. John 4:24. That is why God planned to make it possible for man to be born again.
    As I said, God had this planned since before the world was made.

  • Common Sense

    Oh please! It is not an Obama’s LGBT America. It is an America issue. The problem is the church. So now you want to come out of your bubble and comfort zone to attack Obama under the disguise of gay marriage!? What about when a 12 and 17 and countless other innocent people were gunned down by savage police? Is God pleased with that too!? You are the reason why churches don’t have the power to bring about positive change in communities-cities-states and the world. We should get on our knees and plea for God’s forgiveness before His true divine judgment come against this country; and guess what? It began long before Obama too office.

  • edwitness

    Love apart from truth is not really love at all. It’s just tolerance. A word the homosexual community is prone to throw around. God commands us to speak the truth in love. This love is unconditional but acceptance of sin is not. This is why Christians seem unloving to you.
    A true Christian can never accept a person’s sin. Especially the gross kind of sin that homosexuality is. And by gross I mean very overt and showy. God loves you and so do we but, He will not accept you while you are worshiping the god of sex. He does not send a person to Hell. A person will end up wherever his god ends up. You go with the god you serve.
    Repent of your false gods and worship Jesus. This God will accept.

  • edwitness

    David James,
    II believe the 501c3 tax exemptn started with Prs. Johnson. It was to give control to the gov’t over what the church could teach in the pulpit. If they got out of line they would lose their tax exempt status. And for the most part it worked.
    When was the last time your pastor named those running for office who should not get your vote? Or even told you what characteristics a person should have for you to vote for them? Enough said.

  • edwitness

    A rational moment please.
    The war that spawned the Constitution was spawned from the Declaration of Independence, right? In that Declaration we find that it is our Creator that gives us the rights spelled out in it. A summary of those rights are enumerated in the Constitution once our war for freedom from tyranny was won. It is not an exhaustive list which is why it was necassary to write the 10th ammendment. It says that any rights not written in the Constitution are reserved to the people and the states respectively. Not to the Gov’t. So you see, the SCOTUS has no authority to rule on this and most of the other things they rule on.

    Seeing that our rights as Americans come from the Creator, and that this Creator is the God of the Bible, there is no way that the Constitution could give the right of holy matrimony to anyone not sanctioned for marriage in God’s word.

    God said He made them male and female for procreation. That these two, male and female, and no one else, would become one flesh. This is why God calls homosexuality an abomination. And it is also why the true Christian will never accept this blasphemous ruling from these reprobate jurists. They have usurped the authority from the American people to make this ruling. God sees and will take vengeance for His children.

  • Gregory

    Don’t kid yourself Islam is just a Division of the Roman Catholic cult

  • Fiona

    To all you supposed compassionate Christians who want to demonize your fellow man as evil:
    You are saying it isnt natural to be gay and people choose this lifestyle.
    Go and talk to some actual gay people and they will tell you that they knew when they were children that they were not the same.

    To the guys: do you remember when you were 11 or 12 and some kid brought porn to school? and you had this overwhelming reaction…maybe had to go to the toilet to do something about it? The gay kid standing next to you was repulsed by those pictures. He felt like being sick. He wondered what was wrong with him…he began to get scared and next, he realized he was one of those he heard about in church! He was going to go to hell!

    Yeah, right. He ‘chose’ that.

    There are some people who, through being in prison, have developed a taste for same-sex relationships. They have got used to it and then learned to like it. But they are still heterosexual and will mostly end up with a woman ( and sneaking out at night, now and then).
    But most gays are simply born that way. They couldnt force themselves to be aroused by those pictures any more than you could get aroused by the gay sex in Spartacus. Its nature.
    And as for ‘what the Bible says’ the Bible has many rules Christians dont follow today (and how many of you hypocrites are divorced? Jesus doesnt allow it). Those rules are no longer necessary. Nobody is stoned to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath. We now no longer need rules against being gay. We dont need people to breed lots of children anymore. Also Jesus showed us that “the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath”. By this, he meant, the rules are not unchangeable. We evolve them, so to speak….
    If you can discard some Bible rules, then you can discard the rules against being gay too. Remember God said it was an abomination to wear clothing of mixed fibres, but how many of you are wearing viscose and cotton right now? We no longer need this rule…who knows why anyone ever did.
    wouldnt it be silly to follow the clothing restrictions of people in Bible times? So why do we need to follow their sexual restrictions? You Christians dont make sense. Essentially, the reason is, gay sex, especially male gay sex (I notice the pastors are never so hot against lesbian sex….) makes you feel all icky and yucky and you just want it to go away.
    Close your eyes if you dont like it. Dont expect the rest of the civilised world to like YOU though. You are no different to those who used to put “White only’ signs in their shops…because after all, their Christian religion had told them black people were natural-born slaves…the “Children of Ham” it was right there in the Bib;e! The Bible said, the children of Ham were destined to serve.

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  • edwitness

    No one has to follow the Bible’s instruction. They can choose whatever lifestyle they want to. God gave men the gift of free will so he could choose for himself whether or not to serve God. But if you want to go to Heaven when you die, you will choose Jesus as Lord. That means He tells you how to live and you do it. There is no other name under Heaven by which men can be saved. That means only Jesus can deliver you from death’s power into eternal life.
    If you don’t believe in an afterlife where the God of the Bible judges men about their trust in Him, then by all means, go to Hell. If that is what you really want.
    I’m hoping you will come to your senses and repent of your idols and serve the true God, Jesus Christ.

  • truth seeker

    God is a holy God and will not tolerate rampant Sodomy in any society… He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with “fire and brimstone” from heaven (Luke 17:28-30) and He will destroy Obama’s America with the “fire and brimsone” of nuclear warfare (Jeremiah 25:32-33). Time is short.

  • edwitness

    David C,
    You espouse such a miopic vision of the worlld that you cheat yourself out of the WHOLE truth concerning the New World Order. There is so much more to this octopus. The “Jews” you speak of are lost just like any unbeliever. Their machinations do not run the world. No man or group of men can do that. Satan is the mastermind behind any and all evil that we see in this world. As such, he must get the blame for leading those who give their allegiance to him into their idolatries for his ends. Which is to defeat God.
    So please give yourself a break, and place the blame squarely on the one who has throughout history, deceived mankind. With posts like Fiona’s, it is plain to see that the Jews are not the only ones who have been used by Satan toward the ends of excersizing power over others and world conquest.
    Now behave yourself.

  • It does seem obvious that our country has come under judgment. I think all Believers must humble ourselves before Gd and repent and ask for His mercy as events move forward.

    We are also told by the Word to be lawful whether we agree with the law or not, and not to judge. If we do these things, Gd can use everything for good and keep us safe.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Pamela Brown – My personal Prayer for sometime now unto “the LORD God” is that because of His Wondrous Mercy and Grace that He will have Mercy upon ‘Amerika’ in His Righteous Judgments.

      There are some that feel that ‘Amerika’ has been under judgment for some years now – we now have murdered more than FIFTY-EIGHT MILLION Babies since Jan 1973.
      This increasingly evil, wicked, and dark country – that now openly hates and rejects “the LORD JEHOVAH” has – in my Biblical understanding – now truly crossed ‘the line in the sand’ – and just as ‘the Weeping Prophet’ Jeremiah was told to write to ancient Israel when they sinned so much:

      Ҧ Thus saith the LORD unto this people,
      Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet,
      therefore the LORD doth not accept them;
      he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins.

      ~ Then said the LORD unto me,
      Pray not for this people for their good.
      – When they fast,
      I will not hear their cry;
      – and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation,
      I will not accept them:
      – but I will consume them by the sword,
      – and by the famine,
      – and by the pestilence.”
      (Jer 14:10-12, KJB)

      ~ Emphasis of “the word of the LORD” is mine – Bro. Nick

  • edwitness

    Mankind is separated from God, not because of our own sin, but because of Adam’s sin. Rom.5:14. We did not inherit Adam’s sin. It was death that spread upon all mankind, not sin. And it is this death that separates all mankind from God from birth, not sin. Death spread to all mankind to separate him from God. Rom.5:10-14.
    When you think in terms of sin being man’s basic problem, it leads to legalism. The person Paul was writing about in Rom.7. We must think in terms of relationship for spiritual life, not sinless perferction. It was Jesus’ relationship with the Father that brought Him back from the grave, not the fact that He was sinless. And it is the same for us.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      edwitness – I do not know where your theology comes from.

      It is plainly written many places in “the scripture of truth”, “the word of the LORD” that I am a sinner.

      King David said that he was conceived in sin (v 5):
      [1] Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.
      [2] Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
      [3] For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.
      [4] Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
      [5] Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
      [6] Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
      [7] Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
      (Psalm 51:1-7, KJB)

      It is written of my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” that he was without sin (v 15):
      [14] Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
      [15] For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities;
      but was in all points tempted like as we are,
      yet without sin.
      [16] Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
      (Hebrews 4:14-16, KJB)

      It is the sinless unblemished blood of “the Lord Jesus Christ” that cleanseth me from sin (v7):
      [6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
      [7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another,
      and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
      [8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
      [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
      [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
      (1 John 1:6-10, KJB)

      It is written of my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” that he knew no sin (v 21):
      [19] To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
      [20] Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
      [21] For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin;
      that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
      (2 Corinthians 5:19-21, KJB)

      “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many;
      and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
      (Hebrews 9:28. KJB)

  • edwitness

    My other comment was for you. We are not born sinners. We are born sparated from God by death. Because of this death(separation from God) we don’t know Him. Not believing in Jesus is the sin of the world that the Holy Spirit reproves the world of. This is the sin all are in when we begin to make choices. Because we are born separated by death.
    When we trust in Him, all of the other stuff takes care of itself. We renew our minds to agree with what God wants in our lives. That is why idolatry is THE sin that all other sins come out of.

  • Before you post, please answer these two Questions. #1 Do you love people? #2 Does the Church you attend take money from the government? If the answer to the first question is “yes”, GREAT you pass. If you answered “yes” to the second question, YOU FAIL. I don’t care what kind of church you go to, if that church takes Money from the government then, you are not in good standing with God. The Bible says, “Give to Cesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is Gods”and, everyone (even heathings) know the Bible says this. Please answer another question,”When did God start taking money from Cesar?” How can you tell a “queer” what God thinks by quoting the Bible when you aren’t living it yourself?

    • Alicia

      What? Churches taking money from the government? What are you talking about? And God does not need Cesar’s money. Jesus did not take it when he walked this earth.

  • I never wasn’t an alarmist but I have a feeling this country is in for a very rude awakening. Our nation as been on a downward spiral for a while. Now things are picking up at record speed.

  • Beaumont

    Where does it say that men and women are interchangeable, in terms of a relationship.

  • Correction. I never was an alarmist

  • truth seeker

    Look at it this way…The last time there was a Sodom and Gomorrah that God had to destroy with fire and brimstone, only a “few” escaped (Luke 17;28-30)…This time, the 21st Century version, Obama’s America, is also going to be annihilated with “fire and brimstone”, this time, nuclear warfare (Jeremiah 25:32-33), and nly a “few” will escape (Matthew 7:14)…Up to half of our population will die in this nuclear holocaust and America will be no more (Revelation 6:8)…God does not tolerate rampant Sodomy for long and He will punish that nation severely. Even Sodom and Gomorrah didn’t even have same-sex marriages.

    • Alicia

      Am just wondering why Europe is still around. They have been spiritually dead for decades & decadence is the norm there. Europeans have been accustomed to nudity on TV for quite some time now. They thought that we Americans were stuff shirts when it came to our morality. And Europe has been very anti-Christian for a while. Then we have China & North Korea who are still persecuting Christians. And the horrendous abortions laws that China has. We know the radicals Islamics will pay when they go after Israel. Am thinking that all nations will receive severe judgement according to their sins during the tribulation period.

  • Bro. Nick Nicholas,
    I basically agree with your statement that we as a country have always been under judgment. It seems to me that things are speeding up now, especially since 9-11. The US that Pres. Obama inherited in 2008 is almost unrecognizable to me today. That is just my opinion.

    • Alicia

      What is very alarming is the number of people who called themselves Christians has dropped nearly 8% in just 7 years. It is interesting that the king took the throne 7 years ago.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Pamela Brown – I absolutely concur with your observation about the ‘Amerika’ that Pres. Obama took over – with his agenda of ‘change’ – that there has been an exponential ‘devilution’ in this increasingly evil, wicked, perverted, dark country that has knowingly rejected “the Lord God Almighty”.

      My Biblical understanding is that 26 June ’15 was probably when ‘the line in the sand’ was crossed – when the legal ‘writ of divorce’ was served
      ‘Amerika’ -vs- “the Lord God Almighty” (Genesis 2:23-25, KJB)
      – because of the legalization of SODOMITE ‘mARRIAGE’ of
      {a} man & man – AND – {b} woman & woman

      – “And with all DECEIVABLENESS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS in them that PERISH;
      – because they RECEIVED NOT
      the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
      – And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION,
      – that they should believe A LIE:
      – That they all might be DAMNED who BELIEVED NOT the truth,
      – but had pleasure in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.”
      (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, KJB)

      “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
      – that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM the faith,
      – giving heed to SEDUCING SPIRITS,
      – and doctrines of DEVILS;
      – Speaking LIES in HYPOCRISY;
      – having their CONSCIENCE SEARED with a hot iron;”
      (1 Timothy 4:1-2, KJB)

      – “And even as they DID NOT LIKE to retain God in their knowledge,
      – God gave them over to A REPROBATE MIND,
      – TO DO THOSE THINGS which are not convenient.”
      (Romans 1:28, KJB)

      I have personally concurred with the following article for some time now –

      Don’t Pray For America | Commentary by Jack Kelley | Saturday, June 6th, 2009 – @

      Same article with comments by individuals – @

      – About 2,600 years ago the ‘Weeping Prophet Jeremiah’ wrote about “ISRAEL” when they also SINNED so greatly:
      Ҧ Thus saith the LORD unto this people,
      Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet,
      therefore the LORD doth not accept them;
      he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins.

      ~ Then said the LORD unto me,
      Pray not for this people for their good.
      – When they fast,
      I will not hear their cry;
      – and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation,
      I will not accept them:
      – but I will consume them by the sword,
      – and by the famine,
      – and by the pestilence.”
      (Jeremiah 14:10-12, KJB)

      ~ Emphasis of “the word of the LORD” is mine – Bro. Nick

  • Alicia,
    It seems to me there is a lot of confusion among the Christians. We seem to have gone through a kind of supposed church age, with the rise of megachurches and false doctrines such as chrislam and ‘name it and claim it’, and now we may be headed into a falling away, but it could be from that which is counterfeit to begin with. We do need a revival…

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Pamela Brown – While there are many that think, and many that have been told that they are ‘christians’ – the sheer ignorance of “the truth” of “the word of the LORD” here in ‘Amerika’ – and in most other countries all around the world – is ’35 miles wide, and 1/8 inch deep’ – and it is getting shallower all the time.

      How many know or take eternally seriously that which is written:
      Ҧ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
      but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
      Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?
      and in thy name have cast out devils?
      and in thy name done many wonderful works?
      And then will I profess unto them,
      I never knew you:
      depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
      (Matthew 7:21-23, KJB)

      There are indeed many ‘christian professers’ ~ BUT few that are truly Biblically “born again” “believeth” followers of “the Lord Jesus Christ”:

      “Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:
      and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
      By this we know that we love the children of God,
      when we love God,
      and keep his commandments.
      For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
      and his commandments are not grievous.”
      (1 John 5:1-3, KJB)

  • Alicia

    I know with God it’s possible but I don’t think many are praying for America. Many Christians have become complacent. We are at the point of no return.

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  • edwitness

    Bro Nick,
    It is written also in Rom.5:13 that “sin is not imputed(isn’t counted against you) where there is no law”. And that Gentiles do not have the law. Rom.2:14. So if you are a Gentile the only sin that can now or ever was counted against you is that you did not believe in Jesus. John 16:9. This is going to be the only sin anyone will come under judgment for when they stand before God at the end of the age. Jew or Gentile.
    Eph. 2:14,15.- “For He is our peace, who has made both(Jew and Gentile) one, and has broken down the middle wall of partition(the law) between us; Having ABOLISHED in His flesh the enmity, even THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of twain one new man, so making peace…” Jesus abolished the law so that Jew and Gentile could now be one in Christ.
    The Jews were delivered from the law (Rom.7:6) and Gentiles were never under it. Again Rom.2:14. So how do you determine sin by the breaking of a law that no one is responsible to? We are solely responsible to whether we have trusted Jesus as our savior or not, and nothing else. In that relationship Jesus conforms us to Himself. This is the normal Christian life.
    Not Rom.7 and the false teaching that it is the normal Christian life in the struggle between the so called “sin nature” and the new spirit man. The only struggle in Rom.7 is between the man who thinks he must keep the law of Moses and serve Jesus at the same time. Rom.7:1-6. Bercause of this a man will have the problems that Paul describes in the rest of the chapter.
    And because you have never heard it before doesn’t make it wrong.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      edwitness – Thank you for explaining how you interpret “the word of the LORD”.

      • Dan

        Bro Nick I too believe the church is under grace right now as scripture also points to this (Ephesians 2:8-9) just to name one.
        You are a true brother in Christ (that I believe) and being as knowledgeable as you are concerning scripture ; you also know the apostles only found out about God’s plan of grace after Christ’s death and resurrection and Paul was the first to be inspired by God with this mystery. Which had it been known prior to the crucifixion ; Lucifer would have never killed Jesus. My point is to use Matt 7: 21 – 23 to imply that scripture tells us we are not saved by grace and grace alone ; only brings grief to our brothers and sisters who by their own nature have anxiety as a cross to bear.

        What’s ironic about Matt 7 is the fact that Matthew of all the apostles; was hated and had a bad reputation and lived just the kind of life prior to being an apostle ; that chapter 7 warns you about. ( he was literally the pot calling the kettle black ) Whats even more ironic about Matt 7 is the first few paragraphs tell you not to judge others or you will be judged . But then Matthew goes on to judging other Christians by telling them they may be fake even though you apparently have claimed you believe that Christ is the messiah and have cast out demons in his name. Christians we are under grace right now and yes when you ask Christ into your life (you are sealed with the holy spirit) and it is finished. Live your lives loving God and realize even your best is like filthy rags to God but the seed in you is not.

        Anyway just my 2 cents .


  • edwitness

    Bro Nick,
    You are welcome.

  • truth seeker

    Dan, where is your biblical truth that Matthew was a bad apple?…As for Matthew 7, you forgot to tell us that (belief) alone will not save anyone. Some people can go for years without ever getting saved. (1.) It has to be in the “will” of God (Matthew 7:21) and (2.) you have to yield (surrender) everything to the Lord (Romans 6:13)…No wonder your baby Christians go back into the world.

  • Dan

    Its common knowledge Matthew was a tax collector, and despised by other Jews.
    So my point that he was the pot calling the kettle black means its odd that he would be judging Christians. I point out that at the beginning of Matt 7 he tells us not to judge each other but goes on to judge in the remainder of chapter 7.
    This doesn’t mean I don’t think its true, but I find it ironic.
    Matthew I’m sure lived the rest of his life honoring Christ.

    (As for Matthew 7 you forgot to tell us that (belief) alone will not save anyone. Some people can go for years without ever getting saved. 1. It has to be the will of God (Everything is by Gods will (TS) and nothing happens without it) 2. you have to surrender everything to the lord. (Huge sigh) Brother when I hear things like this it is so disheartening. TS what God did to correct what Adam did ; took a life. And of all lives ; it was the life of our creator. So, to hear you make a statement like ” you really have to mean it” to be forgiving ; I only feel anguish. Things like this have poisoned the gospel which comes by grace alone. TS if one mans disobedience(disbelief) condemned all and you believe it . Why is it so hard for you to believe something as simple as(belief) can save you? Brother take a collective breath with me and praise God because even though you want to be the best Christian you can be (as do I) it’ll still never be good enough. Better yet God doesn’t expect it of you. Please stop listening to the (but ifs and what ifs and the you should do this and you should do that) in order to be saved. And yes you have heard Gods voice and have been counted as worthy. Understand the meaning of what I’m saying TS. Be glad because some do not have the ability to believe in God (literally).. But you do.. (don’t take this so lightly) ;as I said its not as easy as you might think it is. As children most have no problem but some of us lose the ability to believe as adults. That’s why I believe the meaning behind the verse “you must come to me as a child does” the essence is meant to be literal in meaning.


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