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Obama Becomes Nixon As BenghaziGate Evidence Becomes Overwhelming

| May 14, 2013

Scandal politics are sweeping Capitol Hill

Just days after news broke that the IRS targeted conservative nonprofits, Speaker John Boehner’s House committees will morph into mock courtrooms where the White House will be the defendant in what amounts to a number of high-stakes political trials.

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Like Richard Nixon before him, Barack Hussein Obama’s arrogance led him to believe he could just speak and make the scandal go away.

The most recent scandal to grip the Obama administration came Monday evening, when The Associated Press disclosed that the Justice Department sought its reporters’ phone records — including those of correspondents who sit in the Capitol. Within hours, House Republicans vowed to investigate. To make things worse for President Barack Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder is scheduled to be on Capitol Hill Wednesday for a House Judiciary Committee hearing.

That’s hardly the president’s only problem

Two separate committees — Oversight and Government Reform, and Ways and Means — will probe whether the IRS was treating right-leaning groups unfairly. Republicans moved swiftly to secure the IRS acting director for a Friday hearing, just a week after the news broke. GOP aides hinted Monday afternoon that widespread calls for the director’s resignation could come shortly.

The panels will probe whether the targeting of right-leaning groups is systematic, or isolated. Ways and Means Republicans say they are interested in when top IRS officials, specifically former Commissioner Douglas Shulman was told about search terms used to single out conservative groups. Shulman told Ways and Means members in March 2012 that the IRS was not engaged in any manner of political targeting.

Top GOP sources acknowledge that it’s highly unlikely the White House was directly involved in the IRS mess, but the probe is sure to add to the Republican-spun narrative of Democratic, Big Government overreach.

The IRS probes might be new to the public, but they’re not to House Republicans, who have long worried about politicization at the agency. The hot-button topic has come up in several committee hearings since the GOP took the majority.

The inquest into the IRS is just the latest in a string of GOP-led investigations suddenly gaining steam on Capitol Hill. Instead of negotiating with the White House, GOP lawmakers are now investigating it.

There are currently five separate committee investigations into the attack on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, and a probe into Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius raising millions of dollars to promote Obamacare. Ways and Means is demanding answers to seven questions on this matter, as well.

All together, roughly one-third of House committees are engaged in investigating some aspect of the Obama administration.

“The speaker and other House leaders have been clear: Effective, responsible oversight is a key constitutional responsibility of Congress,” said Michael Steel, Boehner’s spokesman. “Whether the topic is the truth about Benghazi, thuggish political attacks from the IRS or the ‘train wreck’ of the president’s health care law, we will keeping fighting to make sure the American people know the truth.” source – Politico

 

About the Author:

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he hosts a twice-weekly bible study and prophecy radio show on BlogTalk Radio, and oversees a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
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  1. The sad thing is that this is just being exposed but we all knew how corrupt this man and his team are from before he was elected the first time. Without the ability to tell the truth, with a visceral need to hide things and manipulate behind the scenes, with a narcissistic personality, there is no hope for honesty and openness now. We can only hope that some near him (including the press) will see the light, repent and be saved. This is really more like the end of Hitler than the end of Nixon. If any of them survive this level of exposure of truth I will know for sure they are empowered by Satan and are still useful to him.

  2. That’s an insult to Nixon if I ever heard one.

  3. Little cornered animal J carney. :)

  4. Steve says:

    My oh my have the times changed since the Nixon era.

    We have a totally different culture (unfortunately) but this is the age of the end of times.

    Many many people don’t even recall that of Watergate, and the new generation could give a rip!!

    If this current scandal does NOT waken the American people, I am afraid of the giant this country has created.

    When the loss of liberty has vanished from the American people, doomsday is right around the corner.

    May God Bless those who will continue to pray for lost souls and that they repent of their sins, and receive the gift of pardon (God’s Love) for all who call on HIM. Time and Patience are running out.

    • Tracy says:

      I feel like Obama will bounce back “smelling like a rose.”
      He obviously has a dark power supporting him; and even more amazing is that the majority of folks don’t even notice it. He will stand up and lie, and then expect all of us to believe it. I DON’T get it!

      • Mark says:

        This Obama thing may be much bigger than you might imagine…

      • Mark says:

        Lets try replying in correct post this time..LOL

        He obviously has a dark power supporting him

        Yes, seems Obama is being angelically protected. Below stuff is freaky to say the least, and I wouldn’t doubt it being real. It’s where the coming great deception will arise from I think?

      • brian says:

        he is a slippery one isnt he?

  5. I would expect these rabid liberals to defend this clown regardless of what becomes known. We are dealing with people who think it’s a right to kill the least among us.

    They are spiritually defective. Supporting a criminal president is a piece of cake for a baby killer.

  6. One possibility is that they are trying to create civil disobedience, essentially war inside the US. At any rate, we are in the midst of evil. God may just be exposing the lies to eliminate all excuses for supporting evil…and then His judgment can fall. God’s grace is immeasurable.

    • “God may just be exposing the lies to eliminate all excuses for supporting evil”

      Wow that’s good – as in there will be no denying where someone stands. Darkness or Light.

    • “God may just be exposing the lies to eliminate all excuses for supporting evil”

      Exactly! Those that follow and support this LIAR will be declaring their allegiance to Darkness over the Light.

  7. TexasRedNeck says:

    Look for another “FALSE FLAG” to happen very soon to draw the attention away from the “D.C. TERRORIST”, I really feel like they are getting desperate enough to begin murdering school children again only this time it will be much worse than Sandy Hook, something so horrible that the American people will let the current Benghazi murders, the illegal IRS harassment and the illegal phone taps of news reporters all become minor news stories. By the way ALL of the “FALSE FLAGS” are brought to you courtesy of our very own FBI and other alphabet govt. terrorists.

    • I AGREE WHOLE HEARTEDLY TEXAS RED NECK, WELL SAID BROTHER
      These people think we are stupid, Thing is we know they are nothing but a bunch of JACKLEGS, THEIR TIME IS SHORT.

    • Texas Red Neck: I would just like to say, I’m sorry about my comments to you!

      Remember how OB is causing all these problems, it seem what comes around goes around, he has now 3 big problems from Admin. coming after him, its like the Nixon Watergate?

  8. beloved777 says:

    very sad,indeed.

  9. brian says:

    at least nixon retired rather than go thru a trial, with his pardon gauranteed.this guy is probably trying to figure a way to sstay for a third term! i say get him, get him, get get get get get him!

    • TexasRedNeck says:

      Put ALL of the “D.C. TERRORIST” in prison for the rest of their lives. Sign this petition to impeach Obama, its a start, put the heat on THEM.

      https://grassroots.cc/17289_130512_P4US_FB_Impeach_Obama_001

      • Mark says:

        Total waste of time, Obama can’t be removed, not until his prophetic dark hour is up. Plus whom can prove him guilty, his own dark cabal? He and they already deny all accusations, and the evidence against things is flimsy at best. From what I’ve read, mostly loads of politics. Nothing that stands a chance in the hall of justice.

        • Ron Murphy says:

          I hope you hang in there, when things don’t go the way you planned, brother. I worry about you. Are you in it for the long haul? I hope so, brother.

          • Mark says:

            Brother, scripture quite clearly declares that the resurrection occurs prior to the end (1 cor 15), regardless of what you believe about things.

            Also the abomination of desolation sparks the tribulation (gospels).

            Lastly, the resurrection occurs at, not after the tribulation (daniel 12).

            P.S. I’m sorry, but your theory of a post trib rapture contradicts what the above declares ;-(

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I know clearly what the scriptures say, even though we disagree totally or not is another question. Since you won’t answer my question I can only assume the worst for you. Sorry to hear that. Their is coming a time of falling away, many will be deceived, even the very elect if it was possible. And even some of them with understanding shall fall. Matt 24 and Dan 11. You sound like a man that is 100% sure your right. Well I am , too. So that my friend makes one of us 100% wrong. You are right about one thing, I concur, rapture before the end, just as the days of Noah. But the end is God’s wrath not the tribulation period. And you are right A of D, does start the Trib. period. But have you ever read Matt 24: 29,31, if so would you expound on it a little for us. I would like to know what you would consider these people to be just after tribulation. I’ve heard so many different answers, I just would like to know you stance on it.

          • Mark says:


            Ron Murphy:

            But have you ever read Matt 24: 29,31, if so would you expound on it a little for us. I would like to know what you would consider these people to be just after tribulation. I’ve heard so many different answers, I just would like to know you stance on it.

            Yes I’ve studied that passage many times. It is not easy to understand in light of related scripture. But I do believe that the first resurrection has two parts. Just as the second coming quite clearly consists of two parts, as most Christians should know.

            The first part for the church, the second part is with the church. There are also two classes of saints, the church and the others. Paul makes it very clear that the church rises first.

            And as the ‘grace’ church was born on Pentecost, it can only consist of Christians up unto the first resurrection event. The church cannot consist of OT saints, nor tribulation saints.

            Revelation 14 speaks of two classes of saved; the 144 K and tribulation martyrs. The 144 K can’t possibly be Jews (as many think), as the Jews rejected Jesus (and still do).

            Facts: Only the holy church (all believers combined); sings a new song (grace salvation), is redeemed from among man (Jew and gentile), follows Jesus everywhere (Christianity globally prevails), is pure and blameless (in the heart and mind), is a chaste virgin (a holy nation).. in Gods eyes. Therefore if the 144 K represents the church, then the tribulation martyrs must be a different group entirely?

            P.S. I’ve got clear scripture to prove above points ;-)

          • Mark says:

            Note: I errored in above. The tribulation group is not noted in Revelation 14, but rather 7.. I always confuse that one..LOL Also the church was born out of Israel.. the 12 tribes. Were it not for the latter, there would be no church period. The Jews are Gods first chosen brought the world to God. Btw the present Jews in Israel are a divided lot, but Gods hand is still guiding them. The tribulation will be what brings them into the light.

            P.S. Jesus came for the Jews (not gentiles). Paul came for the gentiles. All as scripture declares ;-)

          • Mark says:

            Also the 7th angel is the kingdom deliverance, and time of tribulation and wrath (rev).

            At the end of tribulation period, the Lord appears unto the world with the resurrected saints, to destroy the beast and false prophet, and it’s kingdom. Then the Lord establishes his millennial reign.

            Just to further biblicly enlighten ;-)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I agree with you on most of this , except the 7 angel sounding is at the vey end of the Book of 7 Seals to close the vision, tribulation period is well over with and wrath is at it’s end, and then the kingdom is established. You see , Mark the Book of the 7 seals was the total length of the kingdom being given up to the gentiles. When Jesus returns with his army he will take back the kingdom.
            Dan 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
            Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            7th seal = 7 trumpets, 7th trumpet = end.
            Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
            Now the mystery is not the church because it was not declared to his servents the prophets. What was declared to the prophets was this whole end time period.
            And the mystery is finished at the sounding of this 7th trumpet of all that he has declared. It says it that clear, Why make it a big mystery. The mystery is the end time that so many do not understand.
            This is the closing of the book of the 7 seals. It is done.
            Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
            Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

          • Mark says:

            Of course the mystery can’t be the church, as the church is no longer a mystery.. Paul revealed things ;-)

            So what then is the ‘mystery of God’ in Revelation 10? According to context, it implies the end of holy mystery. The resurrection will be the declaration factor. The day of the Lord begins, mans day at it’s end. Christ has returned at long last to prove himself.

            And for the resurrected ones, there will be no doubt that the mystery of God is finally over. At that time all scriptural debate will be silenced by new holy knowledge. We will come face to face with the one we love and his many angels. No longer pondering things.. the reality of God.

            But that doesn’t mean the world will yet understand, as that global expose doesn’t occur until the end of the end, when Jesus declares himself unto the world from heaven, after the tribulation is over. The wrath does not expose anything of Gods presence to the world, anymore than do the trumpets or seals.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Hey, Mark you were doing really good until the last paragraph.
            Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
            Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

          • Mark says:

            Ron, the scripture is symbolic. Anyway, the elite have built many underground places to hide in when all hell breaks loose on earth. They are full well aware of doomsday coming, but they still don’t know God. And they wont know whom Jesus is, until they see him blaze forth from heaven at the end.. ‘Rev 1:7 KJV – Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
            ‘.

            P.S. Well we mostly are clearly not on the same wavelength, but interesting debate nonetheless ;-)

            But at this time we can only ponder things, as there is simply not enough scriptural knowledge yet to piece things properly together. And I’m afraid such elusiveness and debating will prevail unto Christs coming.

          • Mark says:

            Ron, the seals and trumpets are not necessarily related. And the tribulation and wrath are not necessarily divided events (as many think), but rather one follows the other.

            In any case, the whole end time is very short, roughly three and a half years. It comprises the second half of Daniels 70th week.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            You and I see a lot of things in common, brother. I would say about half of what you say I can agree. One thing I can agree with you on, and it being a major one to your understanding, is the 144000. Rev 7:4-8 Clearly states who these are. The other group in verse Rev. 7:9 is another people. Even though the Jews were scattered abroad, they are still one people and nation and kindred and tongue. This group, in verse 9, is from different people, with all these things.
            Eze 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
            Eze 9:5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
            Eze 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            typo: One thing I can agree= One thing I can not agree

          • Mark says:

            I kinda figured that was the case ;-)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            But Mark, the 7th seal is the 7 trumpets. That is what depicts the 7th seal and the only thing. how could you say they are not related. The 7th seal is the 7 trumpets.
            Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
            Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

          • Mark says:

            Yes according to the vision sequence Ron, but not necessarily according to prophetic happenings.

            Revelations is a highly symbolic book, and not necessarily all in chronological order. We are living in times of greater prophetic unveiling, were you not aware of this fact? The prophecies in Revelation are concerning; past, present, future.. not just the latter.

            And a definite clue is in Revelation 12, where it talks about the ‘man child’ and the ‘woman’. The woman clearly represents Israel, and the ‘twelve stars’, the ‘twelve tribes of Israel’.

            Jesus was born out of Israel, of Jewish lineage. King Herod tried in vain to halt process.. ‘and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.’.

            But Herod notably failed. Jesus was hid, and soon born. ‘And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron:’ Jesus was the ‘man child’, as clearly indicated.

            So the early part of that prophecy was fulfilled at Jesus’ resurrection.. ‘and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.’.

            The latter part deals with the future, and ties into Daniels prophecies about the end time, and other parts of Revelation. Also things from other ancient prophets, of which would require intensive researching ;-)

            Hint: Even Jesus declared that prophecy is not necessarily back to back on the time scale.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I agree that is talking about Jesus in past tense. But nowhere else does Rev. go back after chapter 4. But it is time for the seals to begin to be opened. Things are building up to it. I see that all your research has taught you much. I don’t think you will see clearly because you have trusted in the arm of man. God said his Word is what gives life, nothing else, nothing. I tell no man to trust me, but rather trust in God’s Word. Take it for what it says, all of it. If you eat it all, God will show you the parts that is symbolic. People want to follow man, and not God. It’s sad. Looking for a prophet, there are many, pick one. You all have many choices.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
            Jer 17:7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
            Jer 17:8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.

          • Mark says:


            Ron Murphy:

            Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

            Ron, this is totally out of context to our debate. Trusting in man, is not the same as observing prophetic happenings. Trusting in man is giving credence to such as politics and religion, over what scripture and/or prophetic events declare.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Mark, I was adding that to the above statement, it reflects on false prophets.

          • Mark says:

            So are you now calling me a false prophet, just because our biblical beliefs conflict?

          • Mark says:

            Ron, where’s your absolute proof? You simply can’t ignore reality and history in the light of biblical understanding, and expect to gain holy knowledge. The ‘last days’ aren’t coming or just today, they’ve been here for ages, since Pentecost to be exact. And from the numerous signs, we appear very close to the last segment.

            The ancient prophecies are unfolding even as we write. History declares numerous fulfilled, or still fulfilling prophecies. The events of today declare prophetic fulfilling. Or do you deny that all the wars and disasters we’ve been having are of any biblical significance?

            If you do, then my friend you are living in the dark. You will not be able to connect the dots. And it’s not about trusting man over God. God created the world and us, and declared of prophecies to occur through the ages.

            Some before Jesus’ time, others during, and also those in our times. Wake up brother, and smell the burning coffee! We are in turbulent times, but the end still lies ahead, date and time unknown.

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Well , I take the word of God for absolute proof.
            Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
            Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
            I know we are in the last days that is very clear, Mark. I’m not in darkness at all. The Pharisees were taught well also, by man. They wouldn’t listen to God either. Just wanted to criticize those that did. So now you make up things to accuse me of, normal behavior, I suppose.

          • Mark says:

            Ron, I wasn’t meaning to accuse you.. just got carried away emotionally in write ;-(

            What I’m saying is what’s being stated at NTEB and other such Christian venues. There are many things happening today which were predicted by the ancients.
            Some of these things directly tie into prophecy, others are simply not mentioned. Not everything in all of history was given unto the prophets, only significant things.
            Like not every miracle and such Jesus did was recorded, only a splattering. And the latter is a biblicly recorded fact.

            Anyway, we can only believe as we can believe ;-)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            I understand that. I know why you believe it. You know and understand more than most , Mark. You see a lot more. I wish I could help you see some more things, but you won’t have it. Sorry, I can’t get through to you. I know you have studied the Bible intensely, but you are not the only one. Just keep it up, and trust in God for all you receive. Keep your mind open to Him, and Him only.

          • Mark says:

            Ron, I only know as I learn. Much from the bible, and much from world events. I generally try to avoid others opinions, unless I see connections in them. Though in these blogs it’s easy to get caught up in things.
            In any case, we really have no other knowledge sources, beyond direct revelation from God.

            1Cr 13:12 KJV – For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

            Only on that future holy day will we fully understand things ;-)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            Mark, I’ll ask you the question again, Okey. Just give me a straight answer and we will be done. “If” things don’t turn out like you think it will. Will you turn your back on God, and believe it was all a lie or will you endure to the end? I’m not asking about doctrine. I wish to leave this sight, I will when God tells me to. I hope it’s, soon. I’m tired of the bashing on here. People thinks they are going to heaven in the rapture and they aren’t even ready. Sad! It really is.

          • Mark says:

            Ron, why ever would I regress the holy faith? I’m quite confident in my beliefs, but should they be wrong, I’d just deal with things from there on.

            For certain I could never take the ‘mark of the beast’ (RFID chip implant). And if enforced, I would become a rebel martyr (as would many). Not that I’d want to, but that I could not dwell in a world without hope and freedom. I’d much rather die than face such a horrible fate here.

            Well I certainly hope my blunt sad confession satisfied your curiosity at the very least?

            P.S. The rapture is only part of Gods future plan. At present he still needs the church as witnesses unto the world. The holy kingdom is still being built, and only we believers can keep it rising ;-)

          • Ron Murphy says:

            That’s what I wanted to hear, Mark. Good bye to all.

          • Mark says:

            So you’re leaving the site Ron? Too much battle? You can’t help us you know? Christians know their faith, and we can’t be swayed from it by anyone ;-)

        • TexasRedNeck says:

          Not a “total waste of time” in my opinion Mark.
          To see a wrong and NOT try to right it is the real waste of time. Obama and his gang of demons do have a prophetic destiny that will be fulfilled but that doesn’t stop me from doing what I feel is right.

          • Mark says:

            Well I didn’t quite mean it in that way Tex. We should always fight back as we see fit. However I do suspect it wont do much good. Why? Because the majority of the populace are too blind to see truth. And although a few activists might still up a few newbies to revolt, the opposition army would be far too weak to defeat them.

  10. brian says:

    the difference is nixon was not a crook, obama is.

  11. I just ordered up some “Lights On For Impeachment” bumper stickers. Giving out 10 of them. Get some and do this!!!!

    Order from World Net Daily

  12. Ron:
    Please do not what you did to Levi or me to Mark, about the Pre or Post Tribulation! Its his choice to be his way, and by trying to prove him wrong, will only get him upset, if he’s wrong then he’ll pay the price? If you are wrong then? We need to maintain on prohecies in our time and how to deal with them, not what what happens in the Tribulation, we have some time to go, before we nmeed to worry about that problem!

  13. Brenda: Please talk to Ron, we all dropped the discussion about the tribulation, it only caused our pride to get up set, now Ron is pushing his issues of this tribulation. Mark will believe his way, what ever Ron show him in Scripture. Is like bringing a horse to water, but you can not make him drink the water! And you know a few of us tend to draw to Pre-Tribulation. But we all dropped that issue!

  14. Ron Murphy says:

    Pastor, God bless, Sir. There is no need for you to get involved with Mark and I in our discussion, if it upsets you. Since he could not answer my question, I’m concerned for his soul. I don’t want any of you being in that number that falls away. So please understand my motive for this and let it be. I don’t want you getting upset again, so just try to stay out of it if you can. God bless you all.

  15. Ron: Your going to cause the same bad feelings that you cause against me, Levi, or tracy

    • Ron Murphy says:

      Pastor if I know the truth and say it not, how will God judge me? it isn’t your responsibility. It is mine. What I want to know is why should it upset you all so much and why would you get so angry. Do we not hear pretrib doctrine all the time, we do not anger at it when we hear of it. Are everyone afraid to suffer for Christ, that’s it isn’t it? You’re all afraid to trust Christ for your death in his service.

      • Tracy says:

        Ron,
        As I’ve said several times, not a one of us is afraid. The Bible clearly says, He will never leave us or forsake us, He is with us always, do not fear for I am with you, do not worry, etc. etc. etc. So, why are you worried about all of us?
        You mean well, but we see the Rapture doctrine differently.
        God Bless

        • Ron Murphy says:

          That is why I’m worried. Maybe you’re not afraid but you can’t answer for every body. Besides you have already proclaimed you would stick it out if it can down to it. Mark won’t make that statement. What I was asking Pastor, is why so much anger comes from you all?
          The only explaination I can come up with is it has to be fear. Leslow with all his blasphemy couldn’t raise that much anger. So I must wonder why? Tracy you have every right to believe in pretrib. And I have a right to state my opinion. I’m learning and I hope you are, too. God will judge us, who is teaching the truth. I do not judge you for that.

  16. Ron: without getting into an arguement with you, born again christians are not afraid of our future. The only one needs to be scare to death, is unbelievers. at least I learned the hard way to you. You will never change until in thrown in your face! So why discussed it, its a waste of time, the more things to discussed than your main subject, like you enjoy discussing your point of view. One thing is for sure, time will tell the truth! As Tracy told me before if your save, then they will go to heaven one way or the other, but the unbelievers are the one you need to be counseling them on scriptures and Salvation! Point your teachings to the unsaved?

    • Ron Murphy says:

      There is coming a falling, Pastor.

      • Tracy says:

        Ron,
        There’s been a falling away for 20 + years, and there will be more falling away in the future, but a true believer is not going to Fall Away. We are His; just like a sheepherder knows his sheep, God knows His sheep too and that is His children. We are His today and always will be.
        You worry too much.

  17. Mark: Ron is set in his ways and there is no way he’s changing his views. The best thing to do, do not answer his blogs, because in time he’ll catch some one else in his trap! LOL

    Ron: You said, there is a falling coming. Until every one is put to the test, no one will know what they will do that day? And that means you too! I have experienced severe fear, but I was so scare not to fall, I stood my ground, and at that time, I only had me, now, I have God on my side, now I’m even stronger to stand against this falling from grace!

    • Mark says:

      Yeah I knew that from the start Pastor ;-) But it’s always fun to debate with the opposition, at least for awhile. Though you know you haven’t a grain of hope in converting them. Just like with the hard core atheist.

      Anyway, with that all being said, I’d like to touch briefly on the topic of ‘falling away’, which is only noted once in the bible. And at first glance it may seem to fit with apostasy or revolt or defection…

      2Th 2:3 KJV – Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

      However if examine further down, we see something very different. Do we not?

      2Th 2:7 KJV – For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

      Also if we examine the chapter opening, we see that it relates to the gathering of saints at rapture. Correct?

      2Th 2:1 KJV – Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

      Anyway, the below web link details things quite well ;-)

      http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/TheRapturein2Thessalonians2_3.html

      P.S. Ron would disagree of course, but he split scene?

  18. Brenda:; You need to do something about your husband, Ron starting another conflict with Mark! Its only going to be another bad experience for both of them. Please God stop this of happening again?

  19. NTEB: I have a question, out of all these bloggers posting their comments believes in Pre- Tribulation?

  20. Mark: Ron left several times before, nothing new, he’ll be back!

  21. Mark: Ron is the TERMINATOR!!!!!!!!!!

    I’LL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. MARK: TYPO= LOL I can not stop myself from laughing, I know its rude! But I went through this with Ron for about 4 months, Levi went through it 2 months?

  23. JisL says:

    Yes pastor you are the only one who seems to endure on here…laughing at people, mocking them and berating them. Just looking back on the last two weeks Ron was one of your biggest defenders when bloggers spoke up against you. He asked everyone over and over to forgive you. Now you’re mocking him. I’m glad you’re laughing at yourself for making fun of Ron. Hypocrite

  24. Ruby Lillian says:

    Ron and Brenda Murphy! I wish you all the best! Ron, if you speak or are in touch with DCity, please send him my regards! I also am limiting my exposure to this site. Don’t get me wrong, there are certainly some wonderful Christians on here. (Dane, Tracy, Victoria, Mark, Texas, Diane, Jesus is Lord-JisL, Valerie,Steve, Roland, One of His Own…) so many good hearts after the Lord. It is so interesting to read fellow Christian opinions on breaking end time stories but I am taking a break from the “Pastor Drama” LOL It is draining and distracting from the purpose of Christian fellowship. God Bless you all and thank you NTEB for an awesome site!

  25. Mark: Like JisL states Ron is on my side supporting me, he was never on my side, only time Ron acted he’s on my side, was to his advantage. He loves twisting words to benefits his testimony. Anyways I’m not on anyones side, as I’m on Jesus side! I believe I’m justified by Jesus blood Romans 5: 9 and I believe the scriptures that I will be taken in a moment Jesus will take me to heaven as in the Mystery 1st Cor, 15: 51 and as it describe in 1st Thess. 4: 14-18 and I will recieve my new body to enter heaven in 1st Cor. 15: 51-53.

    As for Ron, he has insulted me for 5 months calling me and others idiots, liars, clowns to benefits his pride and his stobbornness to see his way, and if you did not see it his way, he’ll try and knot you down, if someone else attack Ron, then he would apologizing to other, just to make his appearance seem we were attacking him, as “poor me!” It was he who was decievbing others: JisL now your calling me names as I’m Hypocrite! Before you stand up for someone you need to do a little investigation about that person!

    • Mark says:

      Pastor, Ron is simply a post-tribber, and they think differently. I know because I’ve been in that camp before. Actually I’ve gone both ways depending on what I read. However I always seem to return to the pre-trib camp Why? Because the bible always leads me back. ;-)

      Anyway, the tribulation was not meant for the church, it was originally intended for the Jews.. ‘Jacobs Trouble’. Paul quite clearly states that the church has overcome. Paul also writes only to the church, both the Jew and gentile groups.

      1Th 5:4 KJV – But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
      1Th 5:9 KJV – For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

      Tip: Some folk claim that ‘wrath’ always means ‘Gods wrath’, but that is not true. By scripture, Satan also has ‘wrath’.

      Rev 12:12 KJV – Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

      Nevertheless, we are saved from wrath period, and the tribulation will be filled with Satan’s wrath. However we are not spared persecution. But keep in mind that this is the age of grace we live in today. Tomorrow grace ends, the time of tribulation. The hour of the beast, and his mark.

      Technically the time of; globalization, enslavement, and depopulation. When micro-chipping will be integrated into the NWO system and enforced. Once this occurs, the entire economy will revolve around the chip.

      Without the chip, survival in society will be impossible. With the chip, one becomes a helpless slave to the NWO. Rebels will be killed in mass fashion during this time, as many victims will refuse allegiance to the beast, finally seeing the dark truth behind it. The time of tribulation will be no mystery whatsoever.

      People will be ruthlessly snatched from their homes and cast into the many camps. Where they will be NWO interrogated, and either chipped or executed.. per their allegiance factor; NWO, Jesus.

      The world of then will not be like of today. But only today can we be warning beacons unto grace salvation. Those whom face the tribulation will have to decide between slavery or death by martyrdom.

      Hint: I guarantee you that the above horror will be experienced by those left behind. The end stage is being tested and set up today; RFID, FEMA, HAARP, etc. Btw NTEB discusses much of what is transpiring, as these blogs declare ;-)

      Is Obama the ONE? We can’t yet know, as the wicked one isn’t revealed until the Lords Day begins. But considering things, I’ll bet my bottom dollar he is the chosen one of Satan. There is simply too much evidence to honestly deny things. NTEB has much to explore ;-)

      Also my Youtube playlist…

      P.S. Salvation is for today, tomorrow is trial by fire!

      • Mark: What I never told Ron, I was a post-tribber for 30 years, until a Friend took me to a Bible class, and I was taught how to examined the scriptures about the Pre- Tribulation. And there are all of arguements about the Wrath or Tribulation, as are they seperate or the same. But I went to this class with an open mind, seeking the truth! Now there is no doubt in my mind, we will go before the Wrath, but if its in the middle of this Tribulation, then it will be so, but in any case, I do not believe, I will be one of the living one going up to meet Christ Jesus in the air, as we forget when the Tribulation starts, the elements of this planet will be changing and us as human will be caught in the middle of these destruction.

        But there is difference between Rev. 20: 4- dead ones which are the christians that beheaded for there faith in Jesus Christ.
        These are only dead ones waiting for there new bodies at the end of the Tribulation and in the 2nd Coming of Christ sets both feet on Mt. Olives, but these ones under the alter are told to wait a little bit longer But in 1st Thess. 4: 14-18 speaks of the dead rises first, then the living christian will meet Jesus in the air and be with Him forever. But these dead christians are not waiting a little bit longer, because they been force up to meet Jesus in the Air.

        But every time I presented this to Ron, he avoided these questions refused to give an answer, or he would say I already told you the answer, still avoiding the question of these differences!

        • Mark says:

          Pastor – There are two sets of believers (Christians), but they are not of the same salvation call. We are of the ‘grace’ camp. They will be of the ‘law’ camp.
          Our salvation is a gift by simple faith, they will have to work for theirs. Whom are ‘they’?

          They are the ones left behind post rapture and their lost families. There will be children during the tribulation, but family will be a very difficult game. All whom desire salvation then will be forced to die for it. They will have to resist the; beast, his image, and his mark. The decision will be painful and final.

          If they fail this crucial hard test, then they lose out on salvation. After the accursed die, they will face the great white throne, along with multitudes of others. And all caught in the tribulation will die at some point. Either by martyrdom, or by the plagues, or at the Lords coming.

          Rev 19:21 KJV – And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

          P.S. Christians of today need not be concerned, as we are all sealed unto redemption. The most we can lose out on is in rewards category, heaven is our inheritance. We heeded Gods call, now we are his beloved children. If we sin we break fellow-ship, but we can’t break son-ship. So please seal this fact into your heart brother ;-)

        • Ron Murphy says:

          I did not understand your meaning , Pastor, what the point was, you were asking. Now I see it. Let me say something to help you understand me. When Jesus died where did he go, to hell, right? His soul and spirit went to set free the captives there. Okay, where was his body? It didn’t leave the tomb. The soul goes to heaven, under the altar, if you are a martyr, and the body stays in the ground. When Jesus comes back, he will bring the souls to their new bodies, when they are resurrected, just like he did when he came back to his body from hell, 3 days later. I hope you now understand my answer, now that I understand your question. The souls will get their new bodies first, then we which are alive and remain shall meet them in the air.
          1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
          1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
          1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
          1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

  26. Mark: I love listen to you about God’s truth of the scriptures, as I believe Tracy also enjoys hearing your testimony. There is another person well grounded in scriptures, his name is Levi Pattar, he’s a pre-tribber also, but Ron insult this young man so much, he left the NTEB, you would enjoy talking to him! See; levipattar@gmail.com. He’s from India!

  27. Ruby: Please do not leave on my account! If you feel insulted by me personally then I’m apologizing for my attitude! But I believe strongly in pre-Tribulation and as other had their beliefs in the post-tribulation.

  28. Ruby: I’m not prevailing, about my beliefs, its God who won this struggle with post-tribbers. I hope before its to late, you also will see the truth, because at any moment Jesus will come for us and for some it will take them into the Tribulation!

  29. Mark: It just a guess, but I believe the wrath of God is the beginning of the Tribulation, then in mid point, Satan comes to earth will all his angels that follow him and this is Satan’s wrath on Christians that became born again in the Tribulation.

    • NTEB News Desk says:

      The Rapture happens BEFORE the Tribulation. The bible calls the Tribulation the “time of Jacob’s trouble”…that’s ISRAEL, and not the church.

    • Mark says:

      Pastor – Satan being cast down to earth is clearly a figure of speech, as Satan is already here, and has been so from the beginning. In fact he and his fallen angels rule and control this world. That’s why things are corrupt, why there is evil.

      Anyway, I believe that the tribulation contains the wrath. The seven vials are individual judgments, just like with the seals and trumpets. And I can assure you that the latter two have been in operation for years. The historical evidence declares it; the world wars, the nuclear disasters, etc. If you closely examine the seven trumpets, you will see that they relate to wars and nuclear mainly. Anyway, rather than try and detail things here, I rather highly suggest you explore my research site below ;-)

      (And please don’t scold me for my choice of bible versions used within)

      http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/END-TIMES.htm

      P.S. Of course all speculation, as that is pretty much all we can do now. Absolute truth prevails in the rapture.

      • TexasRedNeck says:

        I disagree with you Mark about Satan already being here on earth, yes evil is all around us but I believe that it will be a super natural event that brings Satan to earth, something that will be a worldwide event such as the Rapture. I believe that the Anti-Christ is already here among us. I just don’t think that God would allow Satan to be present on earth while his believers are still here.

        The time IS close though, very close for the evil one to walk on earth.

  30. MARK: God really best this young man, LEVI, with wisdom of scriptures. Maybe we all need to send a message for him to return, levipattar@gmail.com just a thought?

    • Mark says:

      Sounds like a good plan to me, though I’m not too good with such :-( Can’t you plead with him? I’d like to hear his thoughts and share mine. However you know him, I don’t. I’m not comfortable requesting from strangers. I trust you understand? Btw I saved your message blog with his email.

      P.S. Did you check out my above link? Would like to maybe chat on those things sometime ;-)

  31. Mark: I wrote it down! Check it out later! I kept trying to tell Ron he’s going to be left behind, but I failed in my delivery of my message to him. He the type of man being so stubborn, it make one angry, because he’s miss leading others with him. But again I failed!

    But I believe the prophecy 1st Thess. 4: 14-18 will bring about the start of the Tribulation!

  32. Mark says:

    Pastor – Copy/paste method is easier with links ;-) FYI the ‘left behind’ lot will only be living unbelievers of today. But if one of such coverts now, then they are rapture bound. The ‘grace’ window closes at the rapture. If Ron is a true believer (not pretender), then he is saved. However he is clearly mixed up in his biblical interpretations. Which is far more common than many might think. But that has no effect on their salvation or their rapture hope. As for Ron’s personality, I agree very stubborn and thick headed, but then so am I..LOL So you didn’t fail with him, he just can’t be budged. But then neither can I really, I’m pretty well set in my faith.

    Again, ALL true believers are saved (born again), and will be in the rapture. And the event will be grandiose, with countless souls attending. Every saved person from Pentecost onward. Incomprehensible actually.

    And yes, the rapture (1 Thess 4:14-18) will ignite the tribulation. In fact in that glorious moment, global chaos will result on earth; driver-less craft, collapsed businesses, broken up families, etc. At the rapture event the world will become one huge chaotic mess. And I’d say that would be tantamount to the beginning of the tribulation?

    Tip: Although the term ‘rapture’ isn’t noted in the bible, it comes from ‘caught up’ in 1 Thess 4:17. The root is Latin ‘rapto’, which is translated ‘rapture’ in English. Something I learned about a good while back ;-)

  33. MARK: As I read it in greek, the christian dead, are force up to me the Lord in the air. Its also noted in scriptures their is no word for Bible either, its just called the Word of God!

    I look up aerovernture.com
    ran across RFID Implants!
    In the OBAMACARE book, on pages 1001 to 1008 talks about RFID medical implantment chips, and these rules imply from about 12 months or more ago that on March 23, 2013 anyone using Obamacare will be forced to take the implantment and everyone in the USA will be force to recieve this implantment by end of 2014. And Senator Rand Paul was stating if you were a Christian you need to refuse this chip, he said about one million has recieved the implantment already!
    And all illegal recieving their citizenship will be forced to recieved this implantment!

    Tonight I went out and ate a fat juicey T-Bone steak with all the trimming, because soon we will not be eating period!

    • Mark says:

      Pastor – The dead rise first, then we changed living meet them in the air. Basically both the dead and living are changed together (given new bodies), then we rise. Obviously, since the dead are decayed or otherwise wasted.. wherever they were disposed, or destroyed. In 911, there were no human remains, just ashes.. so they say? So the rapture will yet be a miracle mystery as to it’s actual happening.

      FYI aeroventure.com is my host site, former workplace ;-)

      Yeah I know about Obamacare RFID, however in itself it’s meaningless now. The NWO needs to be installed first, and that can’t happen now, too much resistance. RFID by itself has no power now. We both could safely have implants, but why bother? Global enslavement can only occur when everything is in place. Plus such can only happen after rapture.

      We are the restraining force. The Holy Spirit in us keeps the evil one at bay. Don’t you see that? The rapture will be the departure of us all, including the Holy Spirit within us. God will then not be in the world at all. Once we are gone, Satan will be able to enact his final horror. His final fling of the age.. open season on the leftover lot.

      P.S. Ironically, 2018 is a generation from 1948, when Israel was reborn as a nation ;-) Some claim global micro-chipping by 2017.. but pure speculation now.

    • Mark says:


      Pastor Steven LaRue:

      Tonight I went out and ate a fat juicey T-Bone steak with all the trimming, because soon we will not be eating period!

      We have no idea of what really that future life will be. However we still need to be health concerned for now, unless we want to end up ill in gluttony process. The latter can happen quickly, if we lose control of things.

  34. Ron: I’m very happy your back, we missed you, brother!
    Pick up the OBAMACARE BOOK pages 1001-1008 speaks of RFID Implantments for medical purposes, HA! About one million americans recieved this implantment already. Senator Rand Paul said, by the end of 2014, this chip will be forced on everyone!

    Remember the movies OMEN? Our President has no father, no mother, raised by his grandparents, there dead, and we are not certain what country he came from or borned in?

  35. MARK: I have no worries about being fat, I’ve been slender all my life, I use to eat a 4 qt. bowl of spaghetti!

    • Mark says:

      Well I’m fat Pastor, trying hard to lose it. You might be genetically blessed? But I too was thin in my youth, then came fast food game in adulthood, and then everything changed. :-(

  36. Mark: when we get to heaven, with our new bodies, I really do not believe we will have a fat problem. Praise God!

    • Mark says:

      Pastor – True, but we aren’t there yet, and so we still gotta deal with such body crap things here until we are gone :-(

  37. Mark: I search the web and the RDIF Chip was approved for human use on Oct. 13, 2004 by FDA. In the USA the developer is called Angel Mark Corp. and another name Digital Angel Corp. making these chips. The mandate to be forced to implant this chip in humans by December 2014. Under H.R. 3200, Sec. 2521 pages 1000 to 1008 in the Healthcare Bill. The Corporation ADSXE developers of the chip for Mexico, Central, South America and Europe.
    So we can figure the Antichrist will be in world power by this date!

    • Mark says:

      Pastor – Yes I know all about that stuff, and you could well be correct on date factor. However we will have to just wait and see. Honestly though, Obama already has global power. Unknown to most folk, he occupies two thrones; USA, UN. The latter is his global one.

      The NWO was actually born in the USA (1776), but will reign from the UN at the end. Contrary to popular thought, the UN is not an innocent organization. It is tied into corrupt world politics, and of elite build.

      Then you have the mysterious Club Of Rome, which is dividing the world into 10 regions (kingdoms). Yeah we are getting too close for comfort I fear. But God is watching things as they develop. Anyway, through my intensive web research I’ve learned that…

      0) NWO is the end time beast system
      1) RFID chip is the mark of the beast
      2) 666 is integrated into the system
      3) 911 was a big false flag operation
      4) USA was born under Freemasonry
      5) FEMA camps will be for NWO plan
      6) HAARP is a weather warfare device
      7) Area 51 is a mystery of mysteries

      And this only taps into the whole New World Order thing. Honestly, to reject Jesus is the absolute stupidist thing a person could ever do. The ones left behind are going to have hell to pay for their ignorance and error in judgment. And may God have mercy on the souls facing the Great White Throne. Anyway, check out my newer Youtube video below…

  38. Mark: This guy here name Joseph said, I’m annoying! It seem he think I’m not allowing anyone to state their opinion’s. And I blow every thing up!

    To me I believe some people can not handle the truth. Almost everything in this world now, is very negative. The World News events! On this web site almost everyone is stating OBAMA is a lier.

    The only time I see a positive thing happening is when a unbeliever recieves Salvation in Jesus Christ!

    • Mark says:

      Pastor – You need to learn to either ignore opposition, or simply play head games with them.. as I do ;-)

      Yes the world is dark, it always has been since the fall…

      Gen 6:5 KJV – And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

      Pro 4:17 KJV – For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.

      Jer 23:11 KJV – For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD.

      Mat 22:18 KJV – But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?

      Eph 6:12 KJV – For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

      1Jo 5:19 KJV – And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

      Yeah I’d definitely say that evil in the world ain’t no new thing. And I trust you absolutely agree?

      Do you not think that Obama is a liar? I can guarantee you that he is, so were his colleagues. In fact many politicians lie, which is why I hate politics :-(

      Yes, building the holy kingdom is a wonderful thing ;-)

  39. Texasredneck:
    I agree with you about Satan, not being here on earth, but I do believe the ones (angels) that following Satan can go back and forth to earth.
    As in Rev. 12:7-9; And there was a war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon, and the dragon and his angels waged war and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven and the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who decieves the whole world, he was thrown down to the earth and his angels were thrown down with him. Then in verse 13: and when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman (Isreal) who gave birth to the male child ( Jesus). In verse 14: states Isrealites go into the wilderness, where she (Isreal) stayed for a time and times and half a time (3 1/2 years) from Satan. This will happen in the middle of the tribulation.

  40. TexasRedNeck: I believe its getting closer and closer to depart this earth. But a few prophecies needs to be fulfilled first. Isaiah 17:1 destruction of Damascus and Isreal attacking Iran, then right before the Magog War Ezekiel 38 & 39 The rapture will occur and in the cofusion of this war between Isreal and Iran the Mystery 1st Cor. 15:51 of our depature will happen 1st Thess. 4:14-18 to heaven Then the Tribulation begins. But I do not know in what order does Isaiah 17:1 and Ezekiel Chapters 38 & 39 happens!

  41. Mark says:


    TexasRedNeck:

    I disagree with you Mark about Satan already being here on earth, yes evil is all around us but I believe that it will be a super natural event that brings Satan to earth, something that will be a worldwide event such as the Rapture. I believe that the Anti-Christ is already here among us. I just don’t think that God would allow Satan to be present on earth while his believers are still here.
    The time IS close though, very close for the evil one to walk on earth.

    What I mean’t Tex, is that Satan is here spiritually, just as Jesus is. Anyway, what I believe will happen is that the ‘son of perdition’ or Antichrist.. (take your pick), will be a man possessed directly by Satan. Just as Judas was the same.

    In fact, the words ‘son of perdition’ are only used twice in the KJV bible, for; Judas, Antichrist. That should be a clue? The word ‘perdition’ (apōleia) means ‘destruction’. Interestingly, the term ‘desolate’ (shĕmamah) means basically the same.. ‘devastation’.

    Therefore I believe that the ‘abomination of desolation’ will be the revelation of pure evil on earth.. i.e Satan and his angels cast down to earth (symbolically). Not a statue or such, as many believe. The term ‘abomination’ (bdelygma) means ‘detestable thing’. In other words, detestable destroyer. Can a statue be such? Nix silly idea! Curiously, have you ever heard the term ‘reptilian’?

    Anyway, as Jesus was God incarnate, the Antichrist will be Satan incarnate, and his angels will dwell in his people. Remaining humanity will be his victims. Now do you understand my drift?

    If Obama is the chosen vessel of Satan (I believe likely), we wouldn’t yet know it. Although I can guarantee you that he is driven by evil spirits.

    And for a biblical fact Satan and his fallen angels have been possessing and controlling mankind from the beginning.. the fall in Eden. So they are indeed here now, but not in full power and form.

    During the tribulation, they will have full reign over earth, as the Holy Spirit will have departed. We have the Holy Spirit inside each of us. We are born of God. We are the children of God ;-)

    • TexasRedNeck says:

      Mark I agree with you about Satan being here in spirit because of all the evil that is here.
      I believe that the evil will increase exponentially once he actually physically touches the earth the way we now walk on earth.
      I do believe that when it happens that there will be some super natural event take place so that the entire earthly population knows that something has happened to forever change humanity.
      We are getting very close to the end of time and the beginning of eternity with God. What a wonderful time to be alive.

      • Mark says:

        Tex – The rapture will ignite the tribulation.;-)

        The rapture is the supernatural event. Satan is preparing for things with UFO abduction aspect. And in a sense partially true, as we will be caught up into the clouds.

        I believe we will literally be lifted into giant holy vessels that will fill the heavens around the earth. The rapture will be a major undertaking in and of itself. But we first will need to be transformed in body, as human form is subject to the elements and death. As we are now, the icy vacuum of space would instantly kill us all.

  42. Mark: I believe we are getting real close to Isaiah 17:1.
    Russia on Tuesday sold to Syria regrime several S-300 anti-aircraft missiles. On Thursday CIA Director Brennan was Tel Aviv, discussing options!

  43. Mark says:

    Pastor – Also Rev 9:13 WWIII Well I got news for you brother, the first five trumpets have long been sounded. Contrary to popular opinion! Ignore latter always!

    The creepy but historical proof is here…
    http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/Rev-7-trumpets.htm

    Also the first four seals have been opened*…
    http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/Rev-4-horses.htm

    *The fifth seal refers to the tribulation martyrs

    And the four beasts of Daniel prevail as well*…
    http://aeroventure.com/END-TIMES/Dan-4-beasts.htm

    *The fourth ‘terrible’ beast is the NWO.. now developing at the UN! The 10 kingdoms developing as well. The Statue Of Liberty holds clues to prophecy of Rev 10. Watch below videos for further enlightenment…

    But, the End Times (last days) still prevail, the End Time (time of the end) is yet on the horizon.

    P.S. As the rapture can’t occur until the seventh angel blows his trumpet (last trumpet), we will just have to wait and see what next transpires next in world war games.;-)

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