The Bible Believers Response To The ‘Holiday’ Of Halloween

Halloween in America in 2015 is one the most-celebrated "holidays" all year, and Christians participate in it nearly as much as any other group of people. Parents dress their little darlings in princess and cowboy costumes, knock on doors for candy, and decorate the inside and outside of their houses with festive jack-o-lanterns, hanging ghosts, adorable witches and warlocks. But where did this day originate? Let's take a look.
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Looking At Halloween From The Bible’s Perspective

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.” Ephesians 5:11,12 (KJV)

The Bible says that the Christian is called to liberty, that we are under grace and not under the Law. New life in Jesus Christ has given us freedom to live as we choose to live. But with that freedom comes the awesome responsibility of living our lives in such a way that we are prepared for the Judgment Seat of Christ. Good choices, Godly choices made here on earth will reap crowns in Heaven. But using that same liberty as an occasion for our own selfish desires results in the loss of those crowns. Choose you this day whom ye shall serve, the Bible says. God allows us to make the choices.

All through the Bible we read about Satan, the Devil, whose only goal in life is to trip us up, cause us misery and sorrow. The Bible says that he only comes to seek his victims, kill his victims, and destroy as many lives of the saved and unsaved as possible. He is a constant force luring us astray, and never-ending downward pull to the dark side, and he uses any means possible to complete the mission.

Halloween in America in 2015 is one the most-celebrated “holidays” all year, and Christians participate in it nearly as much as any other group of people. Parents dress their little darlings in princess and cowboy costumes, knock on doors for candy, and decorate the inside and outside of their houses with festive jack-o-lanterns, hanging ghosts, adorable witches and warlocks. But where did this day originate? Let’s take a look.

Many Christians celebrate holidays, such as Halloween, without thinking about their origins or true meaning. It is impossible to separate Halloween from the Druids because they originated the “holiday.” For several hundred years before Christ, the Celts inhabited what is now France, Germany, England, Scotland and Ireland. Celtic priests were called Druids. These people were eventually conquered by the Romans. Information about the Celts and Druids comes from Caesar and the Roman historians, Greek writings from about 200 B.C., and very early records found in Ireland. Greek and Roman writings about the Druids dwell heavily on their frequent and barbaric human sacrifices. The ancient Irish texts say little about human sacrifices, but detail the Druids’ use of magic to raise storms, lay curses on places, kill by the use of spells, and create magical obstacles.

The cute jack-o-lanterns on your front porch were first used by the Druids in their human sacrifices. After they killed their victim, they drained the fat from their body and filled the gourd or pumpkin with it and put a candle wick inside. A sinister face was carved on the outside face of the pumpkin and the wick was lit, burning the fat as fuel. This was done to appease their gods, the dark spirits, Satan.

October 31st was celebrated by the Druids with many human sacrifices and a festival honoring their sun god and Samhain, the lord of the dead. They believed that the sinful souls of those who died during the year were in a place of torment, and would be released only if Samhain was pleased with their sacrifices.

Irish records tell of the fascination the Catholic monks had with the powerful Druids, and Druids soon became important members of their monasteries. Pope Gregory the Great decided to incorporate the Druids’ holiday into the church. He made the proclamation, “They are no longer to sacrifice beasts to the devil, but they may kill them for food to the praise of God, and give thanks to the giver of all gifts for His bounty.” Pope Gregory III moved the church festival of October 31st to November 1st and called it All Hallows or All Saints’ Day. Pope Gregory IV decreed that the day was to be a universal church observance. The term Halloween comes from All Hallows Eve.

The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday. Halloween was not widely celebrated in the U.S. until about 1900. In the 1840’s there was a terrible potato famine in Ireland which sent thousands of Catholic Irish to America. They brought Halloween with them. The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The tradition of bobbing for apples and giving out nuts came from a Roman addition to the Druidic New Year’s eve. The Romans worshiped Pomona who was the goddess of the harvest. They combined their harvest festival to Pomona with Halloween. Very little archeological evidence of the Druids has been found, but there is excellent agreement between the Roman and Irish documents. Both clearly state that the knowledge of the Druids was never committed to writing but passed from generation to generation by oral teaching. This was to protect their secrets. Nothing is put into writing. The Druids continue on secretly with much the same traditions.

When we, the Christians, participate in Halloween we are continuing the Druid tradition that was begun in human sacrifices and worship of the gods of the underworld. The Bible tells us to not merely avoid evil, but to also avoid anything that might appear evil. We are called to be “salt and light” to a lost and dying world. We are called to be a “peculiar people”, visibly different from the world around us. Participating in the Devil’s holiday, at the very least, is a bad testimony and sends confusing messages to our children.

Use your liberty in Christ any way you chose this October 31st, just remember that one day Jesus will ask you about it at the Judgment Seat

What answer will you give Him in that day?

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.

    • Why don’t you just stop promoting your biased website? Halloween Christian? Don’t be ridiculous.

    • DB

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      In the Lutheran church in which I was baptized
      we used have church services on Oct 31.

      Martin Luther was originally a Catholic priest
      who intended only to reform and purify the RCC
      toward Biblically-based doctrine. I still have
      an old ink-print given to me by my pastor after
      my confirmation of Martin Luther holding the Bible
      in a protective pose.

      .

  • DB

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    NTEB quote: ” The Bible says that the Christian is called to liberty, that we are under grace and not under the Law.
    New life in Jesus Christ has given us freedom to live as we choose to live.”
    __________________

    THIS is the reason why “Christians”…
    the vast majority of whom believe this
    satanic lie… are being punished.

    Jesus is the incarnation of the God
    of Israel… God’s Law is Jesus’ Law…
    Jesus obeyed God’s Law perfectly and
    NEVER taught anyone to do otherwise.

    The Bible definition of sin is the
    transgression of God’s Law. In Christ,
    we are given the freedom FROM sin…
    NOT the freedom to sin !!

    Both the OT and the NT say God will
    write His Law in our minds and hearts.

    God requires one thing from us… OBEDIENCE !!
    Yet not only do the vast majority of Christians
    today not obey God’s Law… they teach others
    not to obey God’s Law… then they turn around
    and claim to be so “Christ-like.” They are weak
    lukewarm abominations who Christ will disown and
    vomit out of His mouth.

    .

    • “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” Galatians 5:1

      “For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.” Galatians 5:13

      “As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.” 2 Peter 2:16

      “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.” Galatians 3:10

      “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.” Galatians 3:11

      “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?” Galatians 4:16

      • DB

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        ” Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law. ”

        Satanist, Aleister Crowley,

        ” In those days there was no king in Israel:
        every man did that which was right in his own eyes. ”

        Judges 21:25

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        • Kinda hard to do the “whole law” without animal sacrifices and a Temple, wouldn’t you say?

          • DB

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            In the OT, animal sacrifice for sin were only
            temporary… that is why they had to be repeated
            and repeated over and over and over again.

            Jesus is the final lamb of God.

            Not other sacrifice is necessary to forgive sin.

            But that does not mean God’s Law is not in effect.

            Also… it is blasphemy for “Christians” to tout
            antichrist Edomite-jews rebuilding Herod’s temple
            to re-institute animal sacrifices.

            .

          • NTEB, may I suggest you ban DB from the site?

          • DB

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            arcticfarmer

            There are many things about me that seem to annoy you…
            is my advocating obedience to God’s Laws one of them ?

            .

      • Brenda Murphy

        New life in Jesus Christ has given us freedom to live as we choose to live.–NTEB

        I think that if we choose Christ, we will live for him……if we choose to please ourselves–we are living as hypocrites!

        Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
        🙂 KJV

        • Brenda Murphy

          Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
          Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
          Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

        • Sola Scriptura

          Amen!!! The scriptures clearly agree with you on this:
          http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2015/02/10/grace-obedience-and-salvation/

    • James

      I am awed (not in a good way) that the author of the article made that statement also : WE CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE AS WE WANT??? That’s nothing more than the SPIRIT OF LAWLESSNESS! It’s the same SEED as that of the ANTI-CHRIST! WAKE UP FALSE GRACE DOCTRINE FOLLOWERS! We ARE under Grace but it is NOT TO BE ABUSED! We live as Citizens of Heaven in a manner WORTHY OF THE GOOD NEWS! Not as we wish – as HE sanctifies us by renewing our will to do HIS good pleasure, satisfaction and delight – NOT as the heathen live. If anyone has difficulty studying the OT Law then at the very least gain some insight and wisdom by reading Proverbs and let’s all remember one thing: Yeshua stated that the Law it is summed up as this: Love the Lord you God with all your heart and love one another. God’s kind of love can be more defined in I Corinthians 13 – it’s not feely feely love – check it out. Also – the Word doesn’t say the “devil comes to seek” and stops there…it states he comes to SEEK OUT THOSE IN ORDER TO …do something…what? Steal, Kill and Destroy. So anyone not keen on the Word would hear…”Oh Dear …the Devil is seeking me.” Seeking what?! DUH! Aside from anything let’s STOP GLORIFYING the enemy! We give him too much power that has been defeated by Yeshua Himself! Stand up all wimps and say “SATAN GET THEE BEHIND ME!” BUT – we prove to the world we follow Yeshua by their SEEING US LOVE ONE ANOTHER! The fight is not in the flesh – it’s in the spirit with our armor on! Faith does not work without the God-kind of Love!

    • Sola Scriptura

      Amen! And we obey him not to earn any brownie points…but because we know him and adore him. But we must not be deceived. The road is narrow:
      http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2015/02/10/grace-obedience-and-salvation/

  • Halloween is PAGANISM and UNGODLY!! PAGANISM is UNHOLY and UNGODLY!!

    If they worship a FALSE PAGAN sun god, this god is married to the FALSE PAGAN moon god allah!!

    I DO NOT Celebrate Halloween at all!! This Because I Do Not like the Dark FALSE PAGAN spirits!!

    WAKE UP USA!! We the People are a Judeo-Christian Nation in the United States of America!! Hashem – Yahweh – Elohim – Jehovah – ( GOD ) in our FATHER who art in HEAVEN and HE LOVES us through HIS SON Jesus Christ!!

    Jesus Christ is KING of kings, LORD ( ADONAI ) of lords, HE is the ALPHA and OMEGA, the FIRST and the LAST!!

  • Marc

    Ever since becoming a born again believer in Jesus I have NEVER observed this satanic event, HOWEVER, the past two years I have handed out hundreds of Chick Halloween Tracts right at my front door!
    The soul fishing doesn’t get any easier than this. After the candy is long gone the tracts get read and passed around and the tracts do work! For more info go to: Chick.com

    • I love Chick tracts and hand out lots of their Halloween-themed ones this time of year! May God bless you in your efforts!

      • Dickens Cheung

        Marc and Arcticfarmer,

        I applaud you for your efforts in spreading The Gospel through tracts, and using a Satanic “holiday” for an occasion to do so, but please note that Chick Tracts teach “another gospel” which is not The Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. If it was just a “matter of semantics” I wouldn’t make a big deal out of it, but sadly it’s not. We are dealing with lost souls with eternal consequences here, so I trust that the last thing you would want to be doing as a Christian is to help propagate a false gospel. Remember that we all have to answer to The Lord Jesus Christ at The Judgment Seat Of Christ, and having Him Tell me that I was not diligent in discerning the True Gospel of this Age from all the false gospels would not be a pleasant experience. My hope is that you both (and any others who may be using the Chick tracts on a regular basis) will not have to face that situation. Please take a look at the following article before you just disregard everything I’ve said because it goes against what you’ve been doing all along:

        http://gospel-of-christ.weebly.com/jack-chicks-false-gospel.html

        May The Lord Bless you and your faithfulness to Him!

        • Thank you for the article. However, I disagree with you on the “false gospel” idea of Chick tracts. What you are implying is that a person can believe on Jesus and then just continue in sin? That is clearly NOT what the Bible teaches. Romans 8:1 states, “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT.” This means that a person must walk after Spirit, which would mean turning from sin, which would mean repentance. Note: You will not find the second part of this verse in the corrupt new perversions like the NIV, NASB, etc.

          • Dickens Cheung

            arcticfarmer,

            I am a staunch advocate of the AKJB so I know of the many perversions that have taken place in the modern versions. I also realize that the latter part of Romans 8:1 was removed to promote a “license to sin” so that carnal Christians think that their sins committed after they are saved will have no consequences. That condemnation, however, comes in THIS LIFE, IN THE FLESH, and you will reap the consequences of the sins and disobedience that you sow while you’re still in this body (Galatians 6:7-10). Read the Account of the believer that committed fornication with his father’s wife in 1 Corinthians 5; The Holy Spirit Said “to deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” Is that fornicating brother unsaved? Did he lose his salvation? Not according to The Holy Spirit! The Lord Just Decided To Deliver the unrepentant child up to Satan to destroy his fleshly body, so that he can no longer sin and lose his rewards At The Judgment Seat Of Christ, so that he won’t be more “naked and ashamed” than he already will be, as The Laodicean Church was (Revelation 3:15-22). It’s all Done Out Of The Lord’s LOVE For His Children. Unrepentant children of God will not get away with their willful disobedience and sin, but they will NOT lose their Salvation. May I be frank with you, that it’s not up to YOU, or Jack Chick, or any other person to set the standards of how a person should live after they are saved. You are not a “fruit inspector”, but a “minister of reconciliation” (2 Corinthians 5:16-21), so it’s best to obey The Lord’s Commandment yourself and stop worrying about other Christians’ walks. Do you know and believe the Doctrine Of Rewards And Loss In The Bible (Romans 14:10-18; 1 Corinthians 3:8-15; 2 Corinthians 5:1-12)? Every Blood-Bought, Blood-Washed, Saved, Born-Again sinner will stand before The Lord Jesus Christ At The Judgment Seat Of Christ, where ALL their works will Be Judged. However, their Salvation is NEVER in question, and they are SEALED unto the Day Of Redemption. ALL sin was already Judged at Calvary.

            When it comes to the The Doctrine Of Rewards And Loss, the Apostle Paul will have the privilege of presenting the Church (the Bride of Christ) to the Lord Jesus Christ. He will present us as a chaste virgin to Him.

            2 Corinthians 11:2 – For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

            We are the Bride of Christ. Because of Paul’s ministry to the Church, he is going to present the Church to Christ. But notice that at the marriage supper of the Lamb we will come to it dressed in our righteousness.

            Revelation 19:7-9:

            7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
            8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
            9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

            We are saved by the Righteousness Of Jesus Christ (Philippians 3:9), but rewarded based on our own righteousness. That means that our standing is determined by the Righteousness Of Jesus Christ, but our state by our own righteousness. Our work is related to righteousness. The fine linen that will clothe us individually is the righteousness of saints. Revelation chapter 16 talks about keeping the garment.

            Revelation 16:15 – Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

            We have a garment given to us. It is white, clean and beautiful because of what the Lord did for us at the cross of Calvary. Another connection of being ashamed and righteousness is found in 1 John.

            I John 2:28-29:
            28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
            29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

            Colossians gives some final clarification concerning the Church. Paul speaks of the presentation of the individual Christian in verse 22, but qualifies his remarks with the word “if” in verse 23.

            Colossians 1:22-23:

            22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

            23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

            IF!!! Paul speaks of warning every man so that he may present every man perfect (complete).

            Colossians 1:28 – Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

            Those that claim that Christians need only be concerned with a loss of rewards at the Judgment Seat of Christ never consider that the Bible clearly points out that we will receive for the wrong too. What kind of garment will you have (for all eternity)? Or will you be naked? God is not mocked. We are joint-heirs with Christ IF…(Romans 8:17, 2 Timothy 2:12). We are not JUST going to lose our rewards…we are going to receive something too.

            Colossians 3:23-25:

            23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
            24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
            25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

            The Bible clearly teaches that the Judgment Seat of Christ for an unfaithful Christian is not just a matter of losing rewards. Christians will receive something too. What may that be? Let’s not wait to find out, and let us warn every believer based on this knowledge of what the Bible says about the terror of the Lord and the fact that God is not mocked.

            Using the fear of loss of Salvation to hold people bondage to your standards is as wicked as The Devil, and The Lord Will NOT Let that go unpunished. For your own good arcticfarmer, if that was ever in your heart or if you ever did that to others, I would repent of that and ask The Lord To Forgive you. Pertaining to Salvation, The Lord Jesus Christ Did ALL The Work At Calvary, so Salvation is EASY. However, Sanctification is HARD and that’s what we all need to work on as Christians. Don’t ever become like the elder brother in The Parable Of The Prodigal Son and become bitter towards the younger brother for his personal sins! Focus on your own walk and sanctification in The Lord, because I would be more worried about how to answer The Lord Jesus Christ for my own walk than to be worried about others! Shalom!

      • wamalo

        Chick tracts on the whole have such bad theology.

  • Guest

    or they get thrown away

  • Stacey

    http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

    Please read the above link on the origins of Christmas being celebrated on December 25th. If the same Halloween logic was used pertaining to celebrating Christmas on December 25th then we shouldn’t celebrate Christ’s birth on December 25th then….or use Christmas trees. December 25th was once part of a pagan celebration of indulging in sin…drinking, sex, singing naked in the streets (caroling). Although the pagans had celebrations during this time, Christians wanted to use that time to reach out to them. Make it so Christians could still have fun and celebrate during this time. So many of the traditions were “christianized.” And we still use many of the same traditions today. Instead of being afraid or ban all Halloween/pagan “holidays”, we should seek to use it to reach the lost. Death and satan and evil has been conquered. During Halloween time we can be reminded that Christ has overcome all of darkness and we can remind others. Make that our goal. As Christians, should we still go trick or treating, carve pumpkins or participate in other Halloween traditions? I believe yes, as long as we don’t do them in honor of satan or the dark forces that Christ has overcome. Instead do them in celebration that darkness IS overcome because the LIGHT, Christ Jesus has come!

    If you have a problem with participating in Halloween type activities with a Christian spin, then with that logic you better reassess your use of Christmas trees and celebrating Christ’s birth on December 25th!

    • That is exactly why we should not celebrate Christmas either.

      • Stacey

        Perhaps a look at Romans 14 would be a good reminder….

        Romans Chapter 14
        14 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master[a] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

        5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

        10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,

        “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
        and every tongue shall confess[b] to God.”
        12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

        Do Not Cause Another to Stumble
        13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

        20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.[c] 22 The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.[d]

        If your conscience condemns you from celebrating Christmas or Halloween in a way that glorifiies God, then you should not celebrate. However if your conscience does not condemn you from celebrating in thanks to God (in a NOT sinful way) then you should celebrate. But if it causes those with weaker faith, who err on the side of law for security, then do not cause them to stumble. So, arcticfarmer , if you feel strongly that you should not celebrate Jesus’ birth on Christmas then you should not….you are free in Christ not to participate. However, remember to not pass judgement on your fellow Christians who do celebrate Christmas or Halloween in a Christ centered way, as their faith and conscience allows them to participate because of their freedom in Christ.

      • Brenda Murphy

        For you, arctic—

        Jer 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
        Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
        Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
        Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

        • Stacey

          You mustn’t take scripture out of context. Many people pick those Jeremiah verses out to try and defend why Christmas trees are evil. However, if you look at the context surrounding those verses you will notice that the verses do not reference Christmas trees. Those verses are actually referencing making idols. The pagan nations surrounding Isreal were notorious for making idols. In these verses, God is again reminding his people to not be like the other nations, who make idols to worship, such as the idol made from wood in this case and decorated. God continues to tell his people not only to not make idols but to be reminded that idols cannot do any harm or good. They are powerless.

          To apply these verses to Christmas trees is taking the text out of context. Furthermore, Christians celebrating Christ’s birth by decoding a tree in their homes are certainly not making for themselves an idol to worship. Instead they are being reminded that light has come and life in the seemly cold, dark world.

          • Brenda Murphy

            And Christ was nailed to a tree, too!

          • wamalo

            Brenda, Jesus was nailed to a cross which is made from trees. By your logic eveything made from trees should then be shunned.

          • Brenda Murphy

            1Jn_5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

            Rev_2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

            What do you think Halloween is, Stacey? and a Christmas tree?

        • Brenda Murphy

          No, wam……but why glorify a tree? Christ suffered upon the cross, and we are decorating a tree? For what purpose?

          We do not know when Christ was born, and we can call it Christmas…..but we should celebrate Christ by living the best we can…for him, and to be an example to others, so they may see his love thru us.

          My personal experience is that the Holy Spirit told me to take my tree down, and I did…because I was actually worshipping a stupid tree! I asked forgiveness, and never put it up again! 🙂

          • Stacey

            Halloween and Christmas trees are whatever you make of it, Brenda. If you are indeed treating such things as an idol and wrestle with worshipping them, then by all means you should definitely refrain from taking part in them. As you said above, they became an idol for you. Thus you made the right decision for yourself based upon where your heart was. However, not everyone treats Halloween or trees as idols. Personally, I don’t struggle with them. I view Christmas trees as a reminder that we have life. And my family decorates them in honor to God for the gift of life he has given us.

          • Bert

            Well, if Halloween is out…and Christmas is now pagan…might as well go all the way with this brothers and sisters and let’s stop celebrating Easter while we’re at it. I mean, really? I don’t post on these sites very often but I do read the comments between the joint heirs on here very frequently, often to my own mental detriment. it not not my wish to agitate anyone and I’m certainly not here to pick a fight. I only wish to bring to your attention that debating about whether or not to let your kids trick or treat or whether or not to put up a Christmas tree really , to my mind, is counter productive. my wife is Catholic and I am Baptist but guess what? We are both CHRISTIAN. We may not agree on certain points and certainly not on the efficacy of baptism but we are both clothed in Christ’s righteousness. I guess I said all that to say this…it is my firm belief that all of us would be making better use of our God given time and talents by bearing each other up and if you must contend, do it earnestly and for your faith. if you must be defensive then always be willing/able to give a defense of your faith. God bless you guys and gals. I have learned a lot from reading what so many of you have to say. I hope I haven’t offended anyone.

          • Brenda Murphy

            You haven’t offended me, that was a good post.

    • LittleBirdie

      Per Jeremiah 10, no true follower of Christ should be cutting down nor decorating any tree. God says this is a heathen ritual and says do NOT do it.
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      That settles it for me.
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      Check out the origins of halloween, easter and valentine’s day – and if you are a true Christian, you’ll stop participating in these “holi-days”, as well.
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      Time to wake up, true Christians – and come out of her!!

      • Stacey

        I will repost my response to taking Jeremiah 10 out of context, as it seems to be an issue with many people:

        You mustn’t take scripture out of context. Many people pick those Jeremiah verses out to try and defend why Christmas trees are evil. However, if you look at the context surrounding those verses you will notice that the verses do not reference Christmas trees, or mere decorating trees. Those verses are actually referencing to making idols. The pagan nations surrounding Isreal were notorious for making idols. In this case, those nations were using trees to fashion idols to worship. In these verses, God is again reminding his people to not be like the other nations, who make idols to worship, such as the idol made from wood in this case. God continues to tell his people not only to not make idols but to be reminded that idols cannot do any harm or good. They are powerless.

        To apply these verses to Christmas trees is taking the text way out of context. And using such logic would mean that we shouldn’t make anything out of trees. The point is, we are not to make idols. Furthermore, Christians celebrating Christ’s birth by decorating a tree in their homes are certainly not making for themselves an idol to worship. Instead they are being reminded that light has come and life in the seemly cold, dark world. They are decorating a tree to be reminded of the Gospel.

        Scripture talks about using items as reminders of God and promises. Remember how the Israelites crossed over the Jordan River into the promise land after wandering in the wilderness? God commanded them to stack up stones to be a reminder to them how he lead them safely into the land. Making a reminder of God’s promises or his work for his people is not making an idol. And that is what Christians decorate Christmas trees for.

      • Stacey

        Also, Little Birdie, we must not judge who is a “true” Christian based on works.

        Christians are those who have faith in Christ as their Savior from their sins.

        Works do not make you a “true” Christian, for that would make salvation a work that we do and not a gift of Christ for all those who have faith in him.

        • DB

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          Stacey posted: ” Also, Little Birdie, we must not judge who is a “true” Christian based on works. ”
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          Jesus said repeatedly that a tree is known by its fruits…
          good trees bear good fruit and evil trees bear evil fruit.

          Jesus said false prophets can be known by their fruits.

          “You will know them by their fruits ” Matthew 7:15-17.

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          • Stacey

            Yes, Christians good produce fruits… fruit of the Spirit and faith working itself out in love and service toward others.

            However, all people this side of heaven are going to sin. Therefore, yes, Christians also produce some bad fruits when we sin and live according to the flesh and not the Spirit. So you can’t judge people merely by sin, or with that logic, no one would be a Christian…not even Paul (Romans 7).

            Also, Christians are going to live in accordance to the Spirit who convicts them personally and the measure of faith they have. So, what one person considers sin according to their measure of faith, may not be sin according to another person according to their measure. (Romans 14).

            I personally do not believe decorating a Christmas tree is sinful. I personally do not worship the Christmas tree or put my faith in it. I use it as a reminder of Christ and the life he gives and I decorate it in honor of God sending us a Savior. Thus it is not a sin for me. And for someone to claim it is a sin for me or claim that I am not a “real” Christian for decorating a Christmas tree is wrong. However, some people may feel convicted or struggle with making the Christmas tree an idol. Those Christians should not participate in such activities then. And I hold no judgment towards them for choosing to do so.

            LittleBirdie claimed that “if you are a true Christian, you’ll stop participating” in holiday activities, which is judging Christians by “works” or their actions so far as to say that those that participate are not Christian. It is also claiming that certain works are required to be a Christian (like not decorating a Christmas tree). Which is contrary to the Gospel – Salvation is found in Christ alone, not works.

    • Brenda Murphy

      Yes, a Christian could commit any sin that a lost person could—-but it isn’t what we are supposed to be doing, we are supposed to be about our Father’s business–just as Jesus was.

      We can make mistakes and ask for forgiveness, but if we keep sinning, we will not be in God’s will.

      Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
      Heb 10:32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
      Heb 10:33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
      Heb 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
      Heb 10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
      Heb 10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
      Heb 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
      Heb 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

    • Dickens Cheung

      John,

      If you are relying on your own “righteousness” to get you saved, or to stay saved, then you are nothing more than a self-righteous Pharisee going around and holding people bondage to YOUR STANDARDS, putting them in fear of either losing their salvation or never having been saved in the first place. You will answer to The Lord Jesus Christ one day for your self-righteous wickedness. It would also be a good time to remind you that if you depend on your own righteousness in ANY WAY for your salvation or to maintain salvation, then YOU sir are the one that is not saved. Go read Galatians and ask The Lord To Forgive you of your wickedness.

    • Lisa

      John Neild,

      Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
      Galatians 6:3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing he deceiveth himself
      1John 1:8-9 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    • carrierwave

      WOW, THAT’S pretty good! You are the first individual I have heard of who has full access to the “Book of LIFE” ! Could you also check to see which of those in the Book who never sinned AFTER they were saved, please??

  • Jenny

    A Christian would not celebrate Halloween. Period.

    Isn’t it ironic that most Christians today feel more awkward abstaining from Sin than actually not sinning? (I’m exhausted. I hope that came out right.) Case in point…oh how the heat is turned up by friends and family when you don’t partake in Christmas. Instead of taking flack, the justification begins as to why it’s “only a tree.”

    Chew on that a minute.

    How about…” I don’t have the patience to homeschool my kids.”
    Halloween is just for fun. Lighten up.
    And on and on it goes….

  • I have never liked Halloween and the facts presented make the case why nobody, especially Christians, should celebrate it. I could never really ‘get into’ Christmas, either. The bible talks of a time when an axeman cut down a tree and decorated it, that in and of itself is having another God before God, and Christmas was a ‘holiday’ of pagans/sinners. “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”

  • Jenny

    Kevin…

    We don’t celebrate Christmas or Easter in my family. Therefore, no beam in our eyes. Matter of fact, we downplay birthdays as well. Why? Because it feeds our flesh. HE MUST BECOME MORE I must become less. There is not one single day in this house that we do not focus on the cross of Christ and its power to save.

    Most dare not ask The LORD what He thinks of these celebrations. Because if they did, they’d be in the minority camp with us. We asked YHWH those questions a decade ago. But women in particular are the worst because we always want to FEEL good, play dress up, decorate with sparkly things etc etc. Christmas is a FLESH FEEDER.

    I’m serious when I say the heat is turned up when grandparents start asking what do your kids want for Christmas. AND NOBODY WANTS FOR THEIR COMFORTABLE LIFE TO BE MESSED WITH! The Body in this country is in for a very very hard fall. “But as for me and my house, we will serve THE LORD.”

    Jenny

    • wamalo

      Hmm, I guess pride is not an issue then?

      • Brenda Murphy

        It’s not about pride…it’s about humbling yourself before the Lord, and asking……Lord, what can I do for you, instead of what he can do for us! 🙂

  • Ron Murphy

    Many of you curse yourselves taking part in pagan traditions and customs. These harm you spiritual walk with God at the least.

    Col 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
    Col 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
    Col 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

    Col 2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

    2Co_6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

    Deu 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.
    Deu 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

  • Jenny

    I guess it boils down to this…

    What level of SIN are you comfortable with?

    “Whatever their itching ears want to hear…..”

    Flame away. I’m NOT budging.

    • wamalo

      Jenny, external sin is simply the outworking of an inherent sinful nature. However, it’s precisely when you think you’re not sinning that you are – internally. Pride, arrogance, self-righteousness. “ALL”, and that means “ALL”, your righteousness is as filthy rags. Yes, “ALL”.

      And so….Therefore (predicated on Romans 7 – go read it again) there is NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

      As Christ redeems sinful, pagan, wretched humans perhaps those saved are redeeming aspects of paganism, in other words not truly “celebrating Halloween” but changing it. Even Paul admitted eating meat sacrificed to idols and said it had no spiritual effect on him whatsoever because of Christ living in him. In relation to those around him he submitted himself to abstinence out of love for his fellow weaker brothers. And yet what I find interesting is that those who scream the loudest immediately go on to provide a laundry list of why they are supposedly the more spiritually mature Christians.

      Grace has been extended to you, “own it”, “live it” and this day be a “trafficker” of God’s grace in Christ to others, using every opportunity you can. Perhaps that may mean holding a Halloween or Trick or Treat alternative where you can boldly proclaim the gospel through any means necessary.

      • Jenny

        All I know is Christ and Him crucified. Do you know why? Because…

        Bro/Sis (?) I REMAIN at the foot of the cross out of absolute desperation for both my physical and spiritual life. My cross, my daily burden, is beyond my ability to endure without the supernatural intervention of God Himself. I see His Glory at work through my suffering. It tears away at my flesh for our flesh cannot endure in His presence. It destroys my thinking and all desires for this life. Moment by moment I must hear His heart and let me tell you something. It’s because of my burden I see Him face to face.

        He is my ONLY hope.

      • LittleBirdie

        God’s grace isn’t an excuse to continue sinning – that is flying straight in His face. Even the Bible says woe to those who know the truth yet choose to reject it. That pretty much sums up having the knowledge of Jeremiah 10 but choosing to still participate in the pagan “ritual”.
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    • LittleBirdie

      They weren’t stolen by the Christians. It was the infamous (catholic) Constantine who infected the Christians – by changing the original Sabbath to Sunday – as well as bringing the “christ-mass” to our once great nation.

  • Hope

    Christmas and Easter to me are 100% about Jesus. I celebrate his birth and death and have found them to be highly positive, Spirit-filled occasions for many, many, many years. Halloween is charged with paganism, no matter whether you look at it as a secular or a religious (Satan worship) event. There is no moral equivalency for me here. I liken Christmas and Easter to the Jewish Holy Days. God gives us opportunities to pause and remember how wonderful He is and how much He has done for us. I am not giving up Christmas and Easter. I stay as far away from Halloween as I can.

    • LittleBirdie

      If you agree with them 100%, at least know what you are in agreement with. Easter is actually “Ishtar”, who was the fertility goddess back in the day. The eggs symbolize the fertility, the rabbits were the animal they sacrificed to their “goddess”.
      .
      So yep, when we dress up our lit’l children in their “easter” dresses and suits, and send them out the door to hunt “easter” eggs, then we are spoon feeding our children straight into the mouth of satan.
      .

  • Stacey

    Participating in holiday activities such as Christmas, Easter, or Halloween all should come down to intent and in judgement of your own heart and freedom in Christ. All Christians need to asses their own hearts. If they are approaching such holidays in a way that celebrates paganism/satanism or in a way that worships such idols then he or she should repent and either stop celebrating in such a way or modify the celebrating to honor God. Most Christians who participate in Halloween type activities like passing out candy, or decorating are not celebrating in a way that is worshiping satan. Many Christians use the opportunity to be reminded that there is no darkness or death to fear because Christ has overcome it. Celebrating in such a way and reminding others that truth is not tampering with dark forces, but rather proclaiming that Christ is over such forces.

    However, some Christians (Romans 14) firmly believe that they must not participate. That is their own Christian freedom of choice. And some Christians feel in their Christian freedom and own assessment of their hearts that they can participate but in a God pleasing way, then that is their choice. As Christians we are not to tear each other down over issues concerning Christian freedom.

    With that said, those who believe they are more righteous or have a stronger faith for abstaining from certain holidays, do not be deceived. What gives us our righteousness is faith alone in the atoning sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. You cannot add to that righteousness. We are covered in righteousness 100%. Then what do we do with our sin? Someone quoted in the above comments that those who continue to sin have no part in the will of God. That is simply not true. For all of us this side of heaven continue to sin and battle our sinful nature.

    This is an important point: In the same way you cannot give yourself salvation by your works of righteousness, you do not hold on to your salvation by your works of righteousness. Read that again.

    It is by grace we have been saved through faith. It is a gift of God so no one can boast. Now if we are saved by faith and not works, then we must live by faith. Those of you who cling to your own works of righteousness for assurance are simply indulging in the oldest sin known to man, idolatry of self. Instead of looking to the savior for your salvation and putting your faith in that, you are putting faith in self….the very sin that Adam and Eve did…..they trusted their own reason and selves instead of trusting Gods promises. Furthermore, when you condemn others who put assurance of salvation in Christ instead of their own works, and you then condemn them for using their Christian freedom in accordance to their faith and hearts, then you are again sinning.

    Now for the 2nd important point: as Christians we are going to continue to sin. Read Paul’s very struggle with sin in Romans 7. We are going to continue to sin this side of heaven. No, that does not give a license to sin. The point is, we should not be content in sinning in the areas of Gods moral laws. We are to repent and continue to try to flee from it with the help of the Holy Spirit. For if we do not repent and flee and “struggle” with sin, we will eventually be given over to it and no forgiveness is there. But if we continue to confess our sins and run to the grace found in the blood of Christ, God who is faithful and just will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. He does the cleansing, not us or our works.

    • Brenda Murphy

      Rev_20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

      • Stacey

        Again, we must not take scripture out of context. Who is written in the book of life? Those who have faith in Jesus Christ as the atoning sacrifice for their sins. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through him. The book of life only lists those who have faith in Christ. Those who have faith in Christ freely recieve eternal life won for them in Christ. That is not won by works.

        The second part of that passage says those in the book of life (so those who have won salvation based on faith in Christ, not by works) are then rewarded different rewards in heaven based on the fruit produced in them. Their works are not what gets them into heaven, but the fruit produced in them (loving God and loving our neighbors) earns different rewards in heaven. So any rewards we earn for our fruit ultimately is a work of God, our vine. For in our sinful nature, there is nothing good in us apart from Christ. Any fruit we do produce is a work of the Spirit, again so no one can boast. We are both justified and sanctified by God.

        • Brenda Murphy

          No, not out of context…..again, you will be judged by your works, whether they be good or bad, according to scripture, Jesus blood was the atonement for our sins, but we must stay under the blood, and it takes our obeying Christ.

          2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
          2Co 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
          2Co 5:12 For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.

          You see, Stacey, you can glory in appearance, but not in heart……if your heart is to serve Christ, you will seek him, and the way he wants you to worship him, and it is not in the worldly pagan things. That does not please God.
          We are not of this world, and we are not to do what the heathens do…else, we are not new creatures in Christ. 🙂

          • Stacey

            Brenda, by saying that we must obey the law to stay under Jesus blood (to recieve salvation) is to nullify the Gospel and claim that Jesus’ death on the cross wasn’t enough. My Savior’s death was not in vain and it is enough for me. Claiming nothing but the blood of Jesus for my salvation alone is not having an outward appearance of glory, it is having the full righteousness of Christ because of HIS work not mine. You cannot add to the Gospel…..salvation is not Jesus PLUS works. Salvation is Jesus. And to claim we must do works to keep our salvation is devaluing HIS WORK on the cross, and quite frankly, falling into idolatry of self.

            For when we attach works to the Gospel to keep our salvation, we make salvation our work…..thus we are not putting faith in CHRIST….we are instead putting faith in SELF, which is the oldest form of idolatry. We cannot be justified by works.

            Paul was very clear on this. Romans 3:20 states, “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, sin through the law comes knowledge of sin.”

            You see, the law is there as a mirror…it shows us our sin, which drives us to the arms of our savior where salvation is found. The law also serves as a guide and it curbs sinful behaviors. However, the law is not there to save us….it cannot save us. For if it could, we would not need faith in Christ and that would make the entire Gospel void.

            Romans 4:14 says “For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be heirs of God, faith is null and the promises of it are void.”

            The law was perfectly upheld by Christ and therefore those who have faith in Christ are the ones who uphold the law. Furthermore, since Christ upheld the law for us, we have been set free from the law.

            Paul writes in Galatians about the purpose of the law. Chapter 3:19 and following states, “Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring (Christ) should come to whom the promise had been made…….is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law…..now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming of faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith.”

            Furthermore, we are not a new creation by perfecting the works of the flesh. We are a new creation by Christ washing us clean from the iniquities of our sin. It is done. We ARE a new creation because those in Christ are viewed as Christ. We are robbed in the righteousness of Christ.

            Part of being a new creation in Christ is receiving a helper, the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is the one who sanctifies us in the flesh…thus we are called to walk by the Spirit and not by our flesh. Yes, we are called to repent and turn away from sin. But how do we do this? Seeking to obey the law? No. By living by the Spirit. Scripture calls us to live by the spirit and to live by faith. Living by faith is trusting alone in Christ for our salvation, not self, and by living by the Spirit, we will naturally put to death our sin and live in repentance at the foot of the cross. For the Spirit convicts us of sin and guides us to repentance. The Spirit also then produces fruits in us….hence the phrase “fruit of the spirit.” Our good works are not “fruits of Stacey” or “fruits of Brenda” haha. It is literally fruit from God….

            So, when Scripture says we will be judged by ours works, it is not saying we earn heaven or hell through them. Remember the verse in Isaiah that states all our righteous works are like filthy rags? That means that our own works, in our sinful flesh apart from Christ, mean nothing.

            On judgement day those in Christ are declared righteous…our works then are righteous because of Christ because they are done OUT OF FAITH not out of fear or out of idolatry of self.

            Those in Christ are not judged then by our sin. For those in Christ have their sin cleansed. However, those not in Christ do not have their sins atoned for and all they are left with is sin and some filthy rags of righteous works.

            Brenda, if we are judged by our obedience to the law, who could stand? I couldn’t. Neither could the Apostle Paul. He writes of his own continued struggle with sin in Romans chapter 7. The truth is, we are going to continue to sin in this world because of our sinful nature. But the Spirit is perfecting us….but only such perfection will be reached when Christ returns and our mortal bodies are made new, sinless.

            Until that day, be assured that in Christ, you are a new creation. You are forgiven. You are free from the law and free to live by FAITH and by the Spirit, who produces good fruits in you.

            So if the Spirit is convicting you about Halloween, then don’t participate. But do not slander other brothers and sisters in Christ who are participating in Halloween type activities (not in a way that worships satan, of course, but in a way that reminds the world of the Gospel).

        • Brenda Murphy

          Some people want to stay on the pap, and not grow in the Word, and eat meat……

          Joh_6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

          Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
          Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
          Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

        • Brenda Murphy

          Stacey, you yourself know that I did not say that we were under the old covenant laws, I always preach against that.
          But you haven’t been on here long enough to know, I guess.
          You definitely do not understand.
          I can not continue this discussion, because you evidently come to your own conclusions about me….and that fails.

          I, in no way slandered anyone. Those are your words.

          I sense an anger in you, hostility is not love, Stacey.
          I believe in obeying the truth, and to abstain from all appearance of evil, as the Bible says.

          1Th 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
          1Th 5:16 Rejoice evermore.
          1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
          1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
          1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
          1Th 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
          1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
          1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
          1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. KJV

          • Stacey

            Oh, I am not angry at all. But I am passionate about Christ alone being our salvation. I will always stand and fight for the Gospel and help people to understand it in its fullness. That is love. Love is not tearing down brothers and sisters in Christ who are using their freedom in Christ to use participation in Halloween as an opportunity to witness to others.

            I also never said you slandered anyone, but I have been on this site and have read through these posts. I have seen a consistent theme in many of the above posts as well as your posts, one which is adherence to law and works to be saved or to be a “real” Christian. My conclusions were made by statements that were made, such as “we must stay under the blood, and that takes obedience.” My conclusions came from your own statements.

            Such statements take ours eyes off of Christ and on to self, which naturally either drives us to pride or despair. It also claims that in order to keep salvation, it takes our works, which is contrary to the Gospel, thus I will refute such contradictory statements. That does not mean I am angered, or that I don’t understand, which were conclusions that you made about me…

            I pray that the Gospel grabs hold of all of us, and sets us free from the law. I pray that we may bear with one another in regards to Christian freedom. And I pray that we will cling to faith in Christ alone! For all other ground, including our works, are sifting sand and cannot save.

          • Stacey

            Forgive me, I did say “you should not slander those Christians who participate in Halloween activities.” Which has been done a lot in the above comments by stating that those who participate are disobedient or not real Christians. That is slander and hurtful to those who participate in a way that promotes the Gospel.

  • Guest

    Very good post Stacey Thank you

  • Donna

    Parents instead of going trick or treating it would be wiser to give your children the word of God instead of candy.

    • Brenda Murphy

      ….continue doing evil, because it matters not… NLT –Kevin

      Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
      Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
      Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
      Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      KJV

  • Halloween- is walking around like dead people it is associated with zombies, evil is behind it satan ‘s day his evil is done on this day evil faces arecarved in pumkins this is NOT ACCEPTABLE at ALL NO -WAY —- Christians don’t do that we are ALIVE -JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE IN US, HONOR JESUS, stay away from celebrating evil ,cause the GOD OF THE LIVING is our GOD! You can have like a Harvest Festival , dress up like Bible charters or not, have fun games ,Christian Music, food , worship the LORD ,Thank Him for everything he has done. DON’T BE LIKE THE WORLD they CELABRATE Halloween, It’s evil. AMEN!!!

  • Bill L.

    Most of the holidays that are celebrated in America are pagan, come from Babylon. Before I was a Christian, I was dumbfounded to know why a baby from Bethleham had anything to do with Christmas. When I became a Christian, I was dumbfounded at the Christmas tree, and lights, and presents, gifts and all the other things that was associated with it. Come to find out in my research that these were pagan, worship of pagan gods and is not to be practiced by a follower of CHRIST.
    The reason the church has no power today is it has failed to “not learn, practice, or bring into your homes the accursed thing, lest you become accursed like it”. Check out the old testament and the new testament cross references to idolatry and spiritual fornication.
    Come out and don’t practice these things but rather rebuke and reprove them.
    Maranatha, your fellow warrior in CHRIST.

  • Brenda Murphy

    Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
    Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
    Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. KJV

  • Dickens Cheung

    Bro. Kevin Klenz,

    I would advise you to spend your time in fellowship and prayer with The Lord, and just ignore these self-righteous hypocritical Pharisees who only live to show other men just how “righteous” they are. Let them devour themselves with Bible-smacking devoid of love and mercy.

    This is why I rarely comment on the NTEB page, because it is utterly a waste of time to try to convince babies on the paps, who believe that they’re on “strong meat”, that they’re babies. Just let them rock their own cribs and play with their pacifiers.

    Don’t waste your time trying to share your heart-felt convictions with them, we’ll see how it all plays out at The Judgment Seat Of Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ Only Looks at your heart, because that’s where all your desires and affections originate from. The only Person you have to fear or answer to is The Lord Jesus Christ, For He Is Your ONLY Judge. Oh and since the Pharisees like to copy and paste blocks of Scripture to smack you around with, here is a block for everyone (The Entire Chapter Of Romans 14; he/she who hath an ear, let him/her hear!):

    1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
    2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
    3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
    4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
    5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
    6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
    7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
    8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
    9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
    10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
    11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
    13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.
    14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
    15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
    16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
    17 for the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
    18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
    19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
    20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
    21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
    22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
    23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

    Finally, I would like to put the icing on the cake for you (Titus 1:15-16):

    15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
    16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

    Just keep your eyes on The Lord, brother, and tune out the noise and static from the cynics and scoffers. Keep on reaching out to the lost souls in the way that you do if that’s the conviction that’s been laid on your heart by The Lord, because you have to answer to no one else! See you in the air! =)

    • Brenda Murphy

      @ Dickens—-you were referring this post to me?

      I did not put my post under Kevin’s name, about ‘strong meat’ as you can see. I have no qualms with Kevin’s post, I agree with him on not celebrating Halloween with the heathens. We are to abstain from all appearance of evil…the Bible says, right?

      And as for the verse I posted in the KJV Bible, under his name, on up there, I was just trying to help him, as he said he did not understand it. I did not come against him in any way. You’d better back up and apologize to me. If not, I understand, for pride does get in the way, sometimes.
      🙂

      • Dickens Cheung

        @ Brenda – No that wasn’t directed at you, I just saw you use those Verses and so I was reminded of that. I was just at a loss of words to see all of these “brothers and sisters In Christ” come with such self-righteousness and condemnation at a brother like that, who was just sharing his personal conviction about taking an opportunity such as Halloween (when people come to your doors, instead of you having to go to theirs!) to propagate The Gospel. If you’re not one of these Pharisees then you have nothing to worry about, and there’s no need to get defensive! You only have to get The Lord Jesus Christ’s Approval, so if you’re right with Him then good on you!

        • Tracy

          @Brenda,
          Please listen, I like yourself, have posted on this site for sometime now, and from my heart I want to say something that you might possibly be missing. You talk so much about “love” one another, etc…..that being one of the fruits of being a Christian; however, most of your comments are just the opposite. You are way toooooo judgmental and self-righteous. You need to face the fact that you’re not always right. It appears that it’s so very hard for you to admit. Again, I say it out of concern, nothing else.
          Self-righteousness won’t win people to Jesus.

          • Brenda Murphy

            Hi Tracy,
            How do you judge me for being self-righteous, in what way, so I can see, if that is true, then tell me what I am wrong about. I am always open to hear.

            I know we don’t see the same in scripture, that was clear from the beginning, is that what it is?

          • Dickens Cheung

            @ Tracy, I always reckon that if people don’t listen to The Holy Spirit, they won’t listen to NOBODY. If they won’t take God’s Reproof then do you think they will listen to you? Don’t bother with trying to convince people because people’s hearts won’t be convinced or changed with man’s wisdom of words, especially from those with differing opinions and convictions. Leave that work to The Lord, because we all have to answer to Him individually anyways!

            @ Brenda – Just want to make it clear that I’m not saying that you’re stiff-necked like that, because I don’t know you well and I’m in no position to come to any firm conclusions about what you say and do; but I think you can agree with me that sometimes we all get like that (stiff-necked, shutting our ears to God, yielding to our flesh) so it’s always good to be self-aware and to examine ourselves every day before The Lord to make sure that all that we say, do, and think are pleasing in His Sight, and His Sight ALONE.

          • Dickens Cheung

            Just wanted to share – this Passage Of Scripture Always Serves To Keep me in the healthy fear of The Lord. He Speaks to us all through His Holy Spirit (if you’ve been Saved and Born-Again) and if we despise His Reproof and continue in our own ways, depending on our own understanding of Scripture instead of depending on The Holy Spirit To Reveal Truth to us, then we will reap the consequences and eat the fruit of our own sins.

            Proverbs 1:20-33

            20 Wisdom crieth without;
            she uttereth her voice in the streets:
            21 she crieth in the chief place of concourse,
            in the openings of the gates:
            in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
            22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?
            and the scorners delight in their scorning,
            and fools hate knowledge?
            23 Turn you at my reproof:
            behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you,
            I will make known my words unto you.
            24 Because I have called, and ye refused;
            I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
            25 but ye have set at nought all my counsel,
            and would none of my reproof:
            26 I also will laugh at your calamity;
            I will mock when your fear cometh;
            27 when your fear cometh as desolation,
            and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind;
            when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
            28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer;
            they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
            29 for that they hated knowledge,
            and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
            30 they would none of my counsel:
            they despised all my reproof.
            31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way,
            and be filled with their own devices.
            32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them,
            and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
            33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely,
            and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

            Better empty ourselves and esteem ourselves as lowly as we can, don’t you think?

          • Brenda Murphy

            @ Dickens—

            There will come a day when our faith will really be tested—–
            whether you and Tracy think that I’m self-righteous or not, won’t matter then—-you will have to decide if your faith is strong enough to go thru it all, just like these people—-I pray we all will be strong enough.

            Heb 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
            Heb 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
            Heb 11:34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
            Heb 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
            Heb 11:36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
            Heb 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
            Heb 11:38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
            KJV

          • Tracy

            @Brenda,
            This post isn’t in the correct order, but I did find a “reply” button. Also, last night whenever I posted to you, I had only read through your and Stacey’s post; had not even read Dickens Cheung’s comments.
            The reason I posted my comment to you was in reference to your posting to Stacey above. Plus, whenever someone disagrees with your interpretation of scripture, about 99% of the time, you go into “attack-mode”. She in no way appeared to be judgmental, or to tell you what “you” should or should not do about the holidays. Seemed very kind to me. On the other hand, you had to tell her how wrong she was for having a Christmas tree, and that you certainly wouldn’t have one in your house. That’s ok for you, but for millions of Christians, including myself, we will have a Christmas tree. And by no means, I won’t worship my tree.
            Do you honestly think that you can be the judge of people, not knowing their hearts? God looks upon the heart, man on the outward appearance. And, we all should thank God each day for that–that He and He alone is our Judge.
            In your comments, you appear to be trying to make authoritative comments, rather than comments from a Christian heart – that you may not see, I DON’T know. It might be coming from insecurity, and your trying to prove something to others, there again, I don’t know.
            But,just take the time and reread your and Stacey’s comments. It’s the same pattern throughout this website.
            Brenda, yes, we do disagree on certain scriptures; however, does that make me any less of a Christian than you? Again, why not let the Holy Spirit convict people. HE will, if they aren’t living within HIS Will.
            God Bless you, Brenda.

          • Brenda Murphy

            Hi Tracy,

            I believe that I am not the insecure one here, as satan has told me that at times, lately. He has it in for me, you know.

            But, thank you for the persecution, I count it all joy.
            As you know, I am quite used to it by now….remember STL, he hasn’t posted in a while, are you taking his place? lol

            I come on strong with the Word of God, yes, and the people that want to do worldly things, well they will still do it…….that is between them and God. I just post the Word…….if people do not like it, they don’t have to respond, or read it, as I have told you and STL, time and time again.

            I will not apologize for anything, as we are adults and we have discussions on here about all this all the time.

            I haven’t said or done anything wrong, if I have, I would apologize, as sometimes I have apologized even to STL….and others, when I needed too.

            I wasn’t even talking to you in this discussion, so ..like Mark, you had to raise Cain. Oh well, so be it. lol

          • Brenda Murphy

            One more thing…before I leave this blog here, it seems that the good Lord wanted me to say this……

            The liberty in Christ, as you say you have—–

            ALL this celebrating of pagan holidays, are bringing you under the bondage again, that you say you are so free from……think about it!

            Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
            Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
            Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
            Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
            Gal 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
            Gal 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
            Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
            Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
            Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
            Gal 4:12 Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not injured me at all.
            Gal 4:13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.
            Gal 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
            Gal 4:15 Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? for I bear you record, that, if it had been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me.
            Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

            2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
            2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
            🙂 KJV

          • Stacey

            @Tracy. Thank you for advocating for me in your above post and for showing Christian love. I greatly appreciate it. You are not persecuting anyone in your post, but instead showing Christian love and kindness in how you presented your point.

            Be reminded that we are not being burdened by a yoke of slavery as we exercise our Christian freedom. We are not putting ourselves under bondage once more. The scripture referenced from Galatians above was addressed to the Christians in Galatia who had been brainwashed to believe that they needed to be circumcised (do certain works) to be Christian. Paul uses his letter to refute such notions as he argues that we are no longer under the law and do not have to obey everything in it. Instead he argues that those who strive to obey the law and do works to be Christians are the ones who are putting themselves into slavery of the law once more, what Christ set us free from.

            I find it kind of ironic that those verses were referenced above to argue the exact opposite…that by not obeying the law, but instead exercising our Christian freedom, somehow puts us under the bondage of the law. Paul is clear, it is in our quest to obey the law and us striving to be righteous through works that bounds you to the law instead.

            Be reminded of that Tracy.

        • Tracy

          @Brenda,
          See how touchy you are? You simply don’t want to see your faults pointed out. See how you compared me with STL? Wasn’t that a bit childish? You simply cannot accept the fact that you aren’t right about everything? It’s called self-righteous pride, and what does the Bible say about pride? I believe it’s much worse than having a Christmas tree inside.
          Yes, Brenda, I’m saved by the free gift that Jesus so freely gave on the Cross at Calvary. He suffered terribly for you, me and everyone else. I have accepted His free gift and I honor Him in everyway that I can; however, being human, I fall soooo short at times, but you see, He knows my heart. He knows that I simply cannot be a perfect human being. But, I can admit it, where some cannot. That’s the difference.

          • Brenda Murphy

            Tracy,

            I didn’t say that I was perfect, in no way.

            I do not think that I am prideful, either.
            You have judged me from day 1, and all I’ve done is put scripture on.

            I have tried to be friendly with all, and to discuss things in a Godly way., which you say is pride.

            What do you want me to say?

            That I am a poor pitiful excuse for a human being?

    • Tracy

      @Stacey,
      Thank you. It’s kind of like what another person posted here not too long ago; read 20 verses before and 20 verses after before giving an interpretation of the meaning of the scripture. Right?

  • Lindsey

    Halloween is Satan’s holiday! Look at the costumes that are worn… I choose not to celebrate it

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