Time Traveler? Video Of 1995 Mike Tyson Fight Shows A Fan In The Audience Using A Smart Phone

A video which has resurfaced of a 1995 Mike Tyson fight appears to prove the existence of time travel, or so the conspiracy theorists are saying. In the footage — which shows Tyson fighting Peter McNeeley in Las Vegas more than 20 years ago — a spectator sitting close to the ring appears to be filming the match on a smartphone.
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Resurfaced video of 1995 Mike Tyson fight appears to show someone in crowd using smartphone to record bout

EDITOR’S NOTE: I am sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for why a front row fan at a 1995 Mike Tyson fight is taking pictures with what looks for all the world like an Android smartphone that would not be on the market until 2008. It’s unique large, wide and flat shape stands out immediately. Watch the video and decide for yourself. I personally have always believed that time travel is possible. Albert Einstein himself thought time travel was possible as well. The greatest and most plausible novel ever written on time travel is ‘Time And Again‘ by Jack Finney, I highly recommend you read it.

A video which has resurfaced of a 1995 Mike Tyson fight appears to prove the existence of time travel, or so the conspiracy theorists are saying. In the footage — which shows Tyson fighting Peter McNeeley in Las Vegas more than 20 years ago — a spectator sitting close to the ring appears to be filming the match on a smartphone.

The only thing is, camera phones weren’t available on the market for another five years. The video, which was first published online in September 2015, has resurfaced and racked up over 4 million views.

“Maybe time travel has been possible for many years now we just don’t know about it. So the smartphone he’s holding could be from the technology of that era not from 100 years from now,” Paul Deckard, a YouTube commenter, said.

“Another theory is that the Illuminati have all technical inventions first and hold them back for years before the public can enjoy them,” another theorist surmised.

Mysterious Cases Of Time Travel That Can’t Be Explained:

Others were more hesitant to buy the story, suggesting it may be a weird Japanese or disposable camera.

Regardless of what the object truly is, the video is certainly grabbing more attention than Tyson is these days. source

 

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  • Ole Ingvar

    Time traveling is impossible. Just world elite has things much earlier, than “simple mortal”.

    • Ron

      I agree the woman has larger nostril flairs than the left but otherwise they look very much alike.

      The photo at the tyson fight is so blurred it could be anything IMO.

      Only God can step out side of time, and no one else.

      Blessings ole!

      • Terri

        I vote camcorder

        • Ron

          +1 on that vote Terri!

          God Bless!

      • Ole Ingvar

        A lot of things are creating just for deviate mankind from Truth, Way and, as result, Eternal Life.
        If you wish, we can chat via Viber or similar stuff 😀 .

        • Ron

          I don’t have any of those on my computer and haven’t heard of them. I will get back to you on this Ole, by getting my e-mail address privately to you.

          I am married with children so you have to be patient with me.

          God Bless You Brother!

        • Ron

          Ole you have e-mail right? mail me at Tom Hatt scotianprince@eastlink.ca It ay take a few days for first e-mail then everything will be a go, This is actually Skywatchers Address maybe He will have you join our prayer and fellowship group that we have thru the e-mail? Skywatcher is an actual factual preacher.

          Are You Up for it?

          God Bless You Brother Ole!

          • Ole Ingvar

            I’m here, Ron. Just visiting this site, when I’m at work. Home is for wife and kids 😀 .
            My mail is ole.ingvar.daanets@gmail.com, Skype ole_ingvar. Join 😀
            May Christ bless you 😀 .

        • Ron

          Ole Where did you go to????

          Ole you have e-mail right? mail me at Tom Hatt scotianprince@eastlink.ca It ay take a few days for first e-mail then everything will be a go, This is actually Skywatchers Address maybe He will have you join our prayer and fellowship group that we have thru the e-mail? Skywatcher is an actual factual preacher.

          Are You Up for it?

  • Pete

    Are you kidding me? I thought you were a serious Bible teacher. Now I don’t know.

  • Michelle

    You have lost your flipping mind

  • John33

    Lol timetravel you loosing realitty here friend, that would make the whole godpel irrilevant. There is only an enuch that could travel by the power of God and it was not even timetravel. What you see here is a elite figure with advanced technology. The step by step introduce new technology so you by a new one every time. A friend of my worked in a hardare fabric when the first mb memory ram where out and he said the already had gigabites then but dot launch untill they milk you out before. Tmetravel no way every time a person would go back it would change the future outcome just by a bee flying a new direction.

  • Marian

    Who knows? But… Steve Quayle, Tom Horn, and others have research that leads me to believe we shouldn’t consider anything too farfetched.

    • DC

      I agree. Their research is jaw-dropping. There are portals all over the world about to be opened. (Did you see the Horn/Putnam video in AZ?) “ETs” could be part of the Great Delusion and could explain (to those left) behind Christians going in the Rapture. The fact that the Vatican has a telescope named LUCIFER looking for something in the sky (the AC?) makes it even more interesting.

  • pam

    I’m beginning to think you are doing these articles for shock value. Time travel is fantasy and if you are suggesting that it’s real you are listening to the doctrine of demons. I cannot take this site seriously anymore.

    • On the contrary, since childhood I have been fascinated by the concept of time travel. Did you know that Albert Einstein taught that it was absolutely possible? Nothing we print here is designed to “shock” you for mere shock value. We write to educate, inform, and to WARN you of the nearness of the time we now live in…and of things yet to come.

      Do you consider everything that you don’t understand as “doctrines of demons”?

      As far as “shock value” goes, the King James Bible is the most shocking Book you could ever want to read. Angels breeding with women creating evil giants, locusts coming out of the pit of Hell, a seven headed red Dragon called Satan, Jesus floating up in the sky. Lol, time travel quite tame compared to that!

      • pam

        Geoffrey Grider are you being condescending? I get the physics and the THEORY of relativity part of it. But your suggestion of the “smartphone”and the Jennifer Lawrence photo is just totally ridiculous. Tell me exactly what is the educational value of this article? This subject on quantum physics is nothing new under the sun, but this article is trying to sensationalize with false information. God lives outside of time and we live inside of it. God’s Word never tells us to live any other way but day by day, we aren’t to DEPEND on the future. I’m going to ask you again, what is the educational value of this article?

        • I just find it really interesting, that’s all. There is nothing “sensationalized” about it, I just liked it.

          • pam

            Nothing wrong with being fascinated by something. I read all the Diana Gabaldon Outlander books, the subject being time travel, the series is now on Starz, no doubt it is entertaining, but that’s all it is, entertainment. So thanks for clarifying, I thought you might be buying into some bizarre info from some off the rails alternative news source. Glad to know you aren’t dismissing biblical divine guidance and firm discernment from the Holy Spirit.

      • pam

        Not to mention all of these photo’s even in the video have been PHOTOSHOPPED to deceive you into thinking God would ever allow us to travel back in the past or travel into the future. Your fascination with time travel is a demonic delusion called a lie.

  • Marian

    Regarding technology: Bob Bowman, who headed the SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative) under Reagan, said in interviews before he died that the technology the public knows about is 50 years old. So we can’t even imagine the latest advances.

    • jkittyc

      I have heard that also, Marian. And according to several technology reports I’ve read, that is a great possibility.

      On the “look alike” people, I have a “twin” also, who is about 3 months younger than me. I met her at age 15. She & I went to a summer camp together for a week. Everyone got us mixed up all the time. Her name was Joyce. My name begins with J.
      Coincidence?

  • Michelle

    Time travel into the past is impossible: http://www.icr.org/article/time-travel/

    Back in Time

    If we could achieve a sufficiently high velocity, we could send a person into the distant future. However, three reasons cause us to think that time travel into the past is impossible. One is a physics reason, one is a logical reason, and one is a biblical reason.

    Einstein’s equations show that if a person traveled faster than the speed of light, then he could travel back in time. The problem is that it would take an infinite amount of energy to reach the speed of light. As a mass is accelerated, it becomes more massive (“heavier”) and increasingly more difficult to accelerate. Since it takes an infinite amount of energy to accelerate a mass to the speed of light, a mass can obviously never go faster. Hence, anything with positive mass cannot go faster than light and therefore cannot go back in time.4

    From logic, we expect that time travel into the past is impossible for any information-bearing system. The reason is that it could lead to contradictions—situations in which something must exist and not exist at the same time. An important rule of logic is this: Since contradictions cannot occur in reality, whatever leads to a contradiction must be false. The possibility of time travel into the past can lead to a contradiction, and thus we conclude that the possibility of time travel into the past must be false.

    Several such examples have been conceived, such as the “grandfather paradox” or the “logically pernicious self-inhibitor.”5 With the first, we imagine being able to send a person back to a time before his grandparents met. It would then be possible for him to prevent his grandparents from ever meeting each other, thereby preventing their marriage and any subsequent descendants, including himself. But if he were never born, then how could he possibly travel back in time to prevent his own birth? In this situation, the man must both exist in the present (to travel back and prevent his grandparents from meeting) and not exist in the present (since his grandparents never met) at the same time and in the same way—a contradiction. And it will not solve the problem to have the man simply vanish when he prevents his grandparents from meeting. After all, if they never met, then the man could never have existed, in which case he could not have prevented them from meeting.

    The Bible also seems to indicate that time travel into the past is not possible for human beings. God alone is beyond time, and hence He alone knows the future. In Isaiah 46:9-10 the Lord says, “I am God, and there is none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done.” Only God can say at a given time what will certainly happen at a later time. Humans can only make educated guesses. But if time travel into the past were possible, then we could simply jump back to 1970 and know with certainty what will happen over the next four-and-a-half decades. This contradicts God’s claim that He alone can declare those things that have not yet happened.

    Also, in regard to His coming, Jesus said, “But of that day and hour no one knows…but My Father only.”6 But if we could travel through time, we could jump ahead to the moment of His return and then come back to the present. Then we too could know the day and hour. Of course, God is beyond time and could move a person forward or backward through time in a self-consistent way without any paradoxes. He has full knowledge of the past, present, and future. But our human ability to time travel is quite limited.

    • Trober

      +1

  • There were quite a few few digital cameras in 1995 made by Kodak, Afga, and Canon. The photo looks like just that, a digital camera.

    Time travel is impossible based on the tensed theory of time. The only alternative is the tenseless theory of time which makes all past, present and future events relative. A tenseless theory of time would lead to chaos since anyone’s present could affect their future, which could affect their past, or all three could make independent decisions as three different persons on three different planes all at the same time, and thus you would never really get to a point that you call “today”. All events would have no distinction from each other because reality would include all moments of time simultaneously.

    Time is the measurement of change. Once an event has occurred, it is settled. If time travel were possible for humans, it would certainly have been for demonic spirits, and if there’s one event in history they would have attempted to change, it would have been the death and Resurrection of Christ, which as Paul states, “had they known it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory” 1 Corinthians 2:8.

    The tense theory of time is also what makes prophecy reliable. If anyone could time travel they would have the ability to alter what God knew/knows about the future. Now some can say God knew they would travel back in time and make the change, but this would lead to an infinite series of regressions and progressions. Every event changed in the future and past would change what God knows about the future, which would require that God knows a future that is never really future because it would be constantly changing in be in a perpetual limbo, which for an omniscient God is absurd.

    There are some places in Scripture where some make the insinuation that time travel was possible because God stopped the sun for a day in Joshua 10. That event no more changed time than daylight savings changes time by moving the clock back an hour.

  • DC

    Skywatchtv had an article last month questioning if we are living in a hologram (posted by Huffpo, but just google it and you’ll see “reputable” news sources also reporting it, such as NASA and Forbes).
    Since we are eternally spiritual beings (our soul lives forever) and our bodies are only here for a short time, I think anything is possible with God, but He doesn’t choose to reveal everything to us. We are to blessed when we “believe without seeing.” There are several cases of the supernatural in the bible that we accept on faith. I’m not saying I definitely believe in time travel, but I’m not going to worry about something God hasn’t chosen to reveal to me yet, either. Same goes for near-death/out-of-body experiences. Bottom line is what draws me closer to the Lord and what puts the faith in mankind…

    • Pete

      DC, “Since we are eternally spiritual beings (our soul lives forever) ”

      This is absolutely untrue. The Bible says the opposite. This is a Greek myth. Only people who accept Jesus Christ as their Savior have everlasting life. Otherwise, “the soul that sinneth, it shall DIE” (Eze 18).

      Christians really need to stop preaching this heresy. You would be amazed at how much Sunday School teaching is actually just repackaged Greek mythology.

      • DC

        I don’t really enjoy arguing with you, Pete, b/c I’ve seen how you treat people with your self-assured, smug, you-know-better, warped theology. You LOOK for fault in people’s responses and focus on the one thing that has nothing or little to do with the whole point they are trying to make.

        Our souls either live on in heaven or into eternal fire. Plenty of bible verses to prove it. However, you like to parse the verses to suit yourself, and seeing how others have exhausted themselves trying to convince you of truths, I won’t waste my time. Read this if you want, or not; I really don’t care:

        http://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul-mortal-immortal.html

        (Doesn’t use KJV but good nonetheless..)

        • Pete

          DC, suit yourself. But calling my theology “warped” is a stretch though, and pretty smug of YOU. Do you have all truth? What have I said that is “warped”? I bet I agree 99% with you in general. I think this pre-trib stuff was made up by men. I think Revelation is metaphor and “soon” means “soon”. I don’t believe something unless it’s spelled out in scripture. If that’s warped, I will take it.

          Can you show me a single verse that says our souls last forever in the lake of fire? Jesus said to fear God who will DESTROY both body and soul in hell (the lake of fire). Mat 10:28. Destroy. Not allow to live forever in agony. It isn’t parsing, it’s just not ADDING to it. The RCC created the idea of burning forever in fire. Makes for a more terrifying story.

          We earn everlasting life one way: Jesus. And it will be a wonderful everlasting life. Those who reject Jesus receive eternal…DEATH. That is, they are gone and will never come back. The eternal fire means it destroys forever, and lasts forever. It doesn’t mean the subjects in the fire burn forever (other than Satan and his angels, who are NOT HUMANS.)

          Revelation says death and hell are cast into the same lake of fire. Are those 2 entities going to eternally be there too? I don’t think so. I think the point of this lake of fire is UTTER DESTRUCTION.

          • Ron

            Titus 3:9-11But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

            A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

            Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

            The Bible is God’s Love letter to His Bride people the only ones that do not understand it

            Do not have God’s Holy Spirit

            1 Corinthians 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

            1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?
            even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

            1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world,
            but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

            1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, NOT IN THE WORDS WHICH MAN’s WISDOM TEACHETH,
            but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

            Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and “uncircumcised in heart and ears,”
            ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

            2 Timothy 3:7-8Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
            Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses,
            so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

            Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

            Proverbs 17:16Wherefore is there a price in the hand of a fool to get wisdom, seeing he hath no heart to it?

            Proverbs 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.

            Proverbs 28:26He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

            Ecclesiastes 10:14A fool also is full of words: a man cannot tell what shall be; and what shall be after him,

            **who can tell him?**

        • Michelle

          I don’t know if you’re right or not about the soul. Since you do believe we have souls can you pray for mine [just in case I do have one]? I thought souls were real but after reading Pete’s comment I really question what the truth even is. I’ve been doubting my faith for atleast a few reasons but mainly because I’m confused. I see so many Christians arguing saying that “I’m right and you’re wrong.” I don’t see love in that. How can I stay in a belief system where I don’t see Christ’s love only bickering and complaining? After all Jesus did say to love one another. This isn’t anything against you. You said what you said nicly [unlike a lot of people I see]. That is why I’m telling you this because you don’t sound mean.

          I’m asking you to pray for my soul since I know you believe in souls. More importantly than me is to pray for my unsaved parents though.

          How do I know who’s perspective is right? After all both sides when talking about Christian doctrine quote the Bible. Who’s perception on the Bible is right?

          • Michelle

            I’m saying this because I can’t find a way to edit my last comment. I just want to say I was talking to DC. So,DC when you see this you’ll know I was talking to you.

          • Leigh

            Hi Michelle, I can understand your confusion and worry about who to listen to. I have had the same problem in the past, but I prayed to God to please give me peace about a lot of doctrine I was confused about, and I have received that peace. Not every question I have has an answer, but that’s ok, we will have ALL the answers when we are in heaven with Jesus.

            Michelle I wanted to say please don’t pull away from Christ because of Christians. We are all human, we all sin, and NO ONE has it all right, its ok to disagree on small doctrine issues, but as long as you get salvation right that’s all that matters. You most definitely have a soul and a spirit. That spirit will live on forever, either in hell in a lake of burning fire or in heaven with our savior and saved loved ones.

            You also must realize the time we find ourselves in history Michelle, we are in the last days, there is no question or argument about that. What did Jesus say would happen in the last days? He said that Christian’s would fall away from Sound Doctrine. He wrote to the church of Laodicea, which is the last church age before his second coming and told them that he will spew them out because they are neither hot nor cold.
            I have posted the versus below for you to read.

            Rev 3:16
            ‘So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.’

            2 Tim 4:3
            For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

            That is why there is so much confusion and strife in the Christian world today, because a very large part has fallen away and they put false information out there. It confuses us babes in Christ and its easy to get lost in a sea of opinions. But don’t let that worry you, you do not need to worry about others, worry about your own salvation. You need to know that you are a sinner, and that if you do not except Christ as your savior, and what he did for you on the cross, his death and resurrection, that he took your place on that cross, you will spend an eternity in hell separated from Him because a Holy God cannot look on sin. Except that free gift of salvation and believe it and you will have eternal life.

            In terms of good bible teachers, I believe Geoffrey Grider, from this site, is a Holy Spirit lead, solid bible teacher, also look up Pastor Charles Lawson, on YouTube, he is a wonderful man of God, one of the best I have ever heard. Also another brother on this site pointed me in the direction of Dr Justin Peters, he does a sermon called “Word of Faith Heresy, A call for discernment”. its in 3 parts on YouTube, that blew me away. It will clear up so many wrong teachings.

            God bless you Michelle and I pray you find the peace you are looking for.

          • Pete

            Hi Michelle, I feel your pain. Why didn’t God just tell us everything and make it 100% clear so we would never argue? I am with you! However I also do not have a problem at all with challenging each other, in fact if you believe the Bible and accept it as God’s word, even the early believers and leaders of the church argued with each other. Of course we need to do it in love. But there is nothing wrong with heated debate.

            Based on what the Bible says – and only what it says, not what people SAY it says – I am of the belief that we ARE a soul. We don’t possess a soul that is separate from our body. Now…the Bible DOES differentiate between soul and body at times, but that’s not the same thing as saying that we are a living body, walking around with a soul that can leave the body, fully conscious. Once the body dies, the soul dies too. When God resurrects everyone, He is going to bring both back – soul and body.

            Our spirit, according to the Bible, is usually translated from the word ruwach in Hebrew and pneuma in the Greek, is just “breath”. Just like we use it, sometimes Biblical writers used it in the sense of a presence, or a personal influence. But that is not literal, I don’t think.

            It starts with our creation:

            Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

          • Ron

            Michelle How can stand here and allow false Doctrine to remain unchallenged, even Jesus rebuked the pharisees,

            sauducees, and lawyers for their false doctrines because the people were being mislead about The Truth.

            We have come here because most of the churches are filled with anything goes these days.

            Also if you come to doubt your Salvation think about this ( I have a few times )

            When you were walking in the world when you were unsaved did that little voice come to you and say you were

            going to Hell?

            No it didn’t, because as long as you did not know Jesus Christ, Satan knew you were his and you were no threat

            to his Kingdom.

            But now that you are saved if doubt is coming in afterward you can best Believe you are.

            If You can openly say…..

            1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, “but by the Holy Ghost.”

            There is your proof as to whether you Know Jesus Christ or not.

            Satan always likes it when Christians fall for his lies. If you start having doubts in your mind again

            Just let it out! “Jesus Christ is Lord and The Joy of The Lord IS MY STRENGTH!”

            That ought to get rid of Satan and his demons quick they don’t like hearing that! LOL!

            Hang in there just a little longer The Rapture Is Right Around the Corner!

            In the Interest of solidarity Listen to DC, Leigh, Mary, Grace, Heather. DC will let you know who to listen to

            she is a Good Sister in Jesus Christ as well as the other names mentioned ( not all inclusive so no offense intended)

            God Bless You Michelle

          • MRH

            Michelle: See my below inserts 🙂

            “I don’t know if you’re right or not about the soul. Since you do believe we have souls can you pray for mine [just in case I do have one]?” = All people have; body (flesh), soul (breath), spirit (thought). But not sure with other living creatures? Also the word soul has multiple meaning depending on context. 😉

            [Gen 2:7 KJV] 7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

            [1Th 5:23 KJV] 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

            “I thought souls were real but after reading Pete’s comment I really question what the truth even is. I’ve been doubting my faith for atleast a few reasons but mainly because I’m confused” = You shouldn’t be confused, nor ever doubting your faith sister. 😉

            [1Co 14:33 KJV] 33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

            [Jas 3:16 KJV] 16 For where envying and strife [is], there [is] confusion and every evil work.

            [1Jo 3:20-21 KJV] 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, [then] have we confidence toward God.

            “I see so many Christians arguing saying that “I’m right and you’re wrong.” I don’t see love in that. How can I stay in a belief system where I don’t see Christ’s love only bickering and complaining?” = Did you not know that Paul faced the same situation in his churches?

            [1Co 3:1-3 KJV] 1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas [there is] among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

            “How do I know who’s perspective is right? After all both sides when talking about Christian doctrine quote the Bible. Who’s perception on the Bible is right?” = The bible generally interprets itself if one reads it properly (in context; verse, passage, elsewhere, audience, idioms, symbols, culture, etc) 😉

            [2Ti 2:15-16 KJV] 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

            Hint: Preachers and teachers may or may not be properly interpreting scripture. Also churches often twist scripture unto their particular doctrines. Plus our own thoughts can interfere with things distorting our understanding. 🙁

            P.S. My late parents were unbelievers, and so is my sister and aunt. But my witness fell and falls upon deaf ears. Just like with most folk in my dwelling zone, and with many folk on the web. Remember what the bible teaches in regards? 😉

            [Mat 7:13-15 KJV] 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

          • DC

            Test

          • DC

            Michelle,
            Ok, it seems like the site is allowing me to post. I was getting a little paranoid there! I did a test first, as I lost my last post to you that I’d spent an hour on. (I did provide a few links at the very bottom of this page when I was able to get through with my old address.)I probably won’t remember everything, but I’ll try. Also, a lot has already been answered by other people, so I won’t be redundant.

            1st Question: Do you believe you are a sinner in need of a Savior, that you can’t save yourself?
            2nd Question: Have you accepted Jesus’ payment on the Cross for your sin? Is He your personal Lord and Savior?
            If you answered yes to both questions, you are saved and your soul will spend eternity with Him and the Father. Do not allow the Enemy to cause you to doubt. Your name is written in the Book of Life.

            If you are not saved and want to be, simply admit that you are a sinner and accept the Blood Sacrifice of the Cross.

            As for Christians arguing with each other, MRH is right that the early Church argued. The disciples argued who was greatest among them. James and John’s MOTHER even advocated that they sit at the right and left hand of Jesus! So even back then egos were involved and eyes were taken off the Lord and fixated on themselves. Today’s argument of doctrine is just as frustrating, especially to a new believer. Just here you’ll see disagreement on the eternal soul. It’s enough to make one’s head spin, and I understand how you would find the bickering distasteful among people who are supposed to love one another. If you’ve never read comments on the Rapture: pre-, mid-, post-Tribulation or no Rapture at all, you’d be amazed that these people call themselves Christians. Every opinion appears to be backed up by Scripture, but beware of those who would twist it to suit their own ideas. We must have two witnesses and more than one Scripture to verify. The Bereans were people who tested everything someone said by looking at the Scriptures to see if it were true. Still, some arguments can be very convincing and that’s where the Holy Spirit comes to help you. Pray and read and get strong in the Word and I think you’ll see your doubts dissipate. Then there is the argument over which bible to use. The King James Version is the most authenticated, in my opinion, but you’ll find plenty of people who disagree. Geoff has a teaching on that, as do other pastors. I can give you some suggestions if you like.

            Even pastors will distort the Word to support an agenda. That’s why we have so many cults. We humans are born to worship. Either we will fill that God-sized hole in us with the Lord, or we’ll fall into deception, substituting the Truth for a Lie. You wouldn’t be having all these questions if you didn’t have a conscience that deep down knows you need God. Ask Him to reveal the Truth to you. Shine your light so brightly that your parents will want what you have. I know how hard it is to worry about our loved ones’ salvation, so never feel alone in this. I have been praying for you and your family. You don’t need a fancy, memorized prayer. Just talk to the Lord like He’s your Best Friend (He is!) and ask Him to guide you and to work through you to impact your family. Know that time is very short in the Age of Grace/the Age of the Church, and Jesus, the Groom, is coming soon for us, His Bride. Let your family know that you, as a saved woman, will not be here long and you want them to come with you. (I know how hard it is; my mom gets scared when I talk about these things, but it’s now or never.) No matter if people accept Him now or have to go through 7 years of Tribulation, EVERY knee will eventually boy and EVERY tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

            Here is a beautiful song that came to me just for you. THIS is why we’re here: to worship the Lord and spread the news of the Gospel. Nothing else is or ever will be as important. It’s called “10,000 Reasons (Bless the Lord, O, My Soul) by Matt Redman, with lyrics. God bless you, Michelle, and please give us updates on how things are going. We love you and we care deeply about what you are going through. Sincerely, Denise (DC)

          • DC

            Oops! I meant substituting a Lie for the Truth. Sorry about that.

          • DC

            oops again! Every knee will BOW, not boy. When I get on a roll I type faster than my brain can keep up, or is it the other way around? 🙂 Wish we could edit.

          • Ron

            DC I hope you wrote that in notepad before you posted this time! LOL!

            God Bless You!

          • DC

            No, Ron, I will next time, though. Did you notice that none of the comments under Michelle’s has a “leave a reply.” I guess everything’s not fixed, but I’m glad I can post now.
            Thanks for the info about document shortcut. I will try it later and let you know how I did.

        • Ron

          I agree DC.

          • Pete

            Ron, //Anyone who denies an eternal punishment for sin is in denial because they likely know what awaits them//

            I don’t deny eternal punishment. I deny eternal torment for people. I already said that Satan is different. Satan is not a body or a soul. Satan is a spiritual being. If God says He is going to send Satan somewhere to be eternally tormented, that’s God’s business. But God says that PEOPLE will be destroyed forever in the lake of fire if they do not believe. They are gone forever.

            FYI – I do understand that this is an SDA teaching. That doesn’t make me SDA, I do not attend their fellowships nor do I believe many other things they say (Sunday is the mark of the beast, we have to keep the Sabbath bla bla).

            //If the soul was just to cease to exist God would not have put it in His Word that The Anti-Christ is cast alive into Lake of Fire.//

            To be cast alive somewhere doesn’t mean you stay alive in that place. The other day I cast a live spider into my fire pit.

            I don’t get the connection you are trying to make here. What’s my statement that souls die have to do with Anti-Christ?

            Pete

          • Pete

            Ron wrote:

            //The rejection of the Son of God can only be justly avenged by eternal suffering.//

            This is a quote from a MAN, not from the Bible. You sure seem to like the words of man.

            There is not a single scripture that even hints that only eternal suffering will avenge the rejection of Christ.

            There is not a single scripture that says all souls are eternal, whether wicked or righteous.

            There is not a single scripture that says human souls will be cast into the lake of fire to endure eternal suffering.

            //Isaiah says that hell has enlarged herself (Isa 5:14). Why make room if the subjects are just going to be annihilated?//

            This is a silly statement all around. Clearly you have no idea what Isaiah was talking about. Even following your silly logic…the more wood I have to burn (annihilate) the more room I need to burn it. How on earth does this prove anything, Ron?

            Meanwhile you have absolutely no answer as to what Jesus meant by God destroying both body AND soul in hell, other than a lame attempt at saying “destroying” doesn’t mean “forever.”

      • Everyone lives forever, the Bible teaches that. The only question is will you live in Heaven or in Hell? The rich man in Luke 16 DIED…was BURIED…”And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.” Turns out that by being DEAD he was still quite alive in his soul existence.

        Guess you got it wrong.

        • Paul said that he had in times past “destroyed” the faith. Galatians 1:23. Obviously, Paul did not “annihilate” Christianity and cause it to cease to exist. Paul also said that if he built AGAIN the things which he “destroyed” he becomes a transgressor. Galatians 2:18. So clearly “destroy” does not simply mean to cease to exist. Furthermore, Luke wrote that skeptics of Paul said that he “destroyed” those in Jerusalem who called on the name of Christ (Acts 9:21).

          In fact, Scripture even says that the Jews sought to “destroy Jesus” by crucifying Him (Matthew 27:20), and Jews did not believe in annihilation. Furthermore, Jesus even used the word “destroy” to refer to His own crucifixion and then resurrection in John 2:19.

          Clearly, “destroy” does not always mean the complete obliteration and annihilation of existence. It means separation from God and a significant alteration from a previous state to a new state. That is why those who die in sin without Christ are FITTED to destruction.Rom 9:22. If God’s intention was to annihilate them, there would be no need for the fitting, He would just blow them to smithereens. But just as the believer’s body is fitted for immortality in heaven, the unbeliever’s body is fitted for immortality in hell, where the smoke of their torment ascends forever (Revelation 14), and where there’s smoke there’s fire, and there’s no fire if there’s nothing to burn.

          And no, the RCC did not create the concept of burning in hell forever. This was a common belief among Jews (even among the Pharisees in Christ’ time). Isaiah says that hell has enlarged herself (Isa 5:14). Why make room if the subjects are just going to be annihilated? The only people that opposed such eternal punishment were Gnostics and their ilk. So you could say that annihilation is a Gnostic concept that was later adopted by the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists, and now made popular by Rob Bell and those at the “Rethinking Hell” website now disguised as “conditional immortality” to avoid the obvious connection to several notorious cults.

          The rejection of the Son of God can only be justly avenged by eternal suffering.

          • Ron

            Dr James Quote:”The rejection of the Son of God can only be justly avenged by eternal suffering.:End Quote

            You said it well and why is that ( this is for others not you and My Brethren here )………

            “can only be justly avenged by eternal suffering”

            People Christ did not have to Sacrifice Himself for Us.

            For none of us could ever purchase Eternal Life except by Accepting Jesus Christ’s Free Gift.

            And rejecting an all encompassing Sacrifice of Endless Love for our carcasses by GOD HIMSELF

            is to Spit in Jesus’s Christ Face and Trash His Sacrifice and Our Holy Heavenly Father Will…..

            be justly avenged by eternal suffering

            Isaiah says that hell has enlarged herself (Isa 5:14). Why make room if the subjects are just going to be annihilated? Thank You for reminding me of that one for all those Naysayers about Hell and The Lake of Fire.

            No need to enlarge something if the people are completely annihilated! Good Scripture Dr. James Thank You!

            God Bless You Dr James!

        • Pete

          Geoffrey, you claim //Everyone lives forever, the Bible teaches that.//

          No, it really doesn’t. The Bible teaches that those who do not believe in Jesus have everlasting contempt (Daniel 12:2), everlasting punishment (Matt 25:46), the everlasting fire of hell (Matt 18:8). Jesus said to fear Him (God) who is able to “destroy both soul and body in hell.” Destroy means destroy. Or are you again not reading the Bible “literally”?

          Meanwhile those who do believe on Jesus are the ones who get everlasting life:

          John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life (even a miserable life in a lake that never kills them!)

          Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (death is death, Geoffrey. Not a life full of misery in a lake of fire that never consumes. Again, you don’t seem to care what actual words are when it gets in the way of your pet belief systems!)

          Eze 18:4 …the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Die means die. Not live in a fire that never kills it.

          What modern people have done, under Greek influence, is turned the idea of “eternal death” and everlasting contempt into everlasting LIFE, but utterly miserable life. That isn’t what the Bible says. The lake of fire is eternal – that is, it utterly destroys whatever goes into it, forever. This includes the grave and death itself. The only exception seems to be Satan, who is not a human being but a spiritual one (Rev 20:10).

          • Ron

            Let’s see man has a Body and a soul, and a Spirit and God said the soul that sins shall die?

            So if that is the case and we shed our souls from our Body where do they go, because if they cease to exist, Then

            how come Satan and ALL the fallen angels who do not have Flesh Bodies and who sinned are still in existance.

            God imparts Spirit to man and that Spirit is Imprinted with God’s Attributes

            The Spirit is Indestructable but can be tormented. Being in the Lake of Fire it may as well be considered

            destroyed.

            The Spirit’s soul Has “God Awareness because God in imparting His Spirit to man “Cannot Deny Himself”

            Anyone who denies an eternal punishment for sin is in denial because they likely know what awaits them

            and therefor if they change their doctrine to deny it, then they won’t have to face it or so they seem to think.

            That doctrine of no punishment fly’s right in the face of God’s Holiness.

            And if Satan and His Angels are still alive, which they are, The antichrist (which will be possessed by satan) is

            cast alive into the Lake of Fire No mistaking that.

            If the soul was just to cease to exist God would not have put it in His Word that The Anti-Christ is cast alive

            into Lake of Fire. This is what makes it more interesting is our Prayers are a Sweet Savor like Incense unto Our

            Lord’s Nostrils. This phrase fully fits for the wicked….

            Revelation 14:11And the **”smoke” of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

          • MRH

            “The lake of fire is eternal – that is, it utterly destroys whatever goes into it, forever. This includes the grave and death itself. The only exception seems to be Satan, who is not a human being but a spiritual one (Rev 20:10).”

            Pete: Satan and his angels are also cast into the lake of fire or simply unto eternal death 😉

            [Eze 28:14-15, 18-19 KJV] 14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. … 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.

            [Mat 25:41 KJV] 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

            [Rev 20:10 KJV] 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

            P.S. Although I’ve never been in a coma, I’ve read blurbs of some who had been in such state. And they claim a timeless dreamless place basically nothingness. And what of those whom have anesthesia for surgery? The moment they sleep is the moment they wake (in their minds).

            [Jer 51:39 KJV] 39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.

            [Jde 1:13 KJV] 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

        • Pete

          Ron,

          //Let’s see man has a Body and a soul, and a Spirit and God said the soul that sins shall die? So if that is the case and we shed our souls from our Body where do they go//

          We don’t shed our souls. Our souls die with our bodies. The soul isn’t a physical thing. In the truest sense we ARE a soul. Our soul is the real part of us, the awareness, our being, our thoughts. Our body is the living physical thing. Without a body, a soul doesn’t exist. Jesus will raise dead bodies up again someday and our souls will be raised as well. I don’t buy the GREEK concept that we float around in heaven in bodiless souls. The Bible never says this, nor does it say that Jesus sends the souls back down to the grave, reunites them with the body, then raises them back up again and flies the whole package to heaven.

          //because if they cease to exist, Then how come Satan and ALL the fallen angels who do not have Flesh Bodies and who sinned are still in existance.//

          They don’t cease to exist until a person is thrown into the lake of fire….anymore than a person’s body ceases to exist – at least as far as God is concerned. After a few hundred years, all bodies “cease to exist” – they are dirt. Who knows where the particles of Abraham’s body are today! God does.

          There is not a single scripture that states that all souls are eternal or all souls live forever. On the other hand there are several I already quoted that say souls can, and do, die…or are destroyed. So you tell me. Which one of us is really believing God’s word?

          • MRH

            Pete: Consider that when the body dies it decays into dust (elements). Graves only hide bodies, they don’t prevent decay. So where is the dead body to raise up? And what about those bodies which are cremated and their ashes scattered into the wind; over earth or water? Again where are the bodies to raise up?

            Well unfortunately the bible doesn’t detail the resurrection miracle. But when Jesus died his flesh did not decay, because he had no sin. However our flesh has sin, so it decays at death. And scripture defines death as a coma like sleep state (timeless and dreamless). Which explains certain hard ‘death’ scriptures such as…

            [Phl 1:21-23 KJV] 21 For to me to live [is] Christ, and to die [is] gain. 22 But if I live in the flesh, this [is] the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

            [2Co 5:1-2 KJV] 1 For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

            When we sleep at night we dream unto the morning awakening. And dream time does not match real world time. But the moment we die we are at our appointed resurrection; good, bad. As for Satan and his angels they are destroyed in the end by God whom created them, along with the corrupt* creation itself through fire. Only the saved souls will remain unto future paradise. *Remember that when man fell at the garden, the whole creation was also corrupted. And so it too will have to be destroyed in the end. And fire is the only force which consumes unto ashes. For example, a heat laser can vaporize anything material instantly.

  • Jamie

    Time travel is only possible if you are in another dimension, and Satan is the one doing it. I know God can do it to, but He wouldn’t.

  • Mark

    Geoffrey, seriously!? C’mon man. You’re better than this. From the grainy picture, it’s impossible to tell what thing is, but I can assure you what it’s NOT.

    Let the lost, unbelieving world debate this kind of non-sense. When Christians dive into the fray on this kind of ridiculousness, we set ourselves up for needless (but much deserved) mockery.

  • dan
    • Nope. The device in the video is white, not silver, and nearly a completely flat rectangle. Try again 🙂

      • Brittany

        I have to agree with dan. That looks just like the Casio QV100 turned to take a portrait orientation photo with a glare from a very bright overhead light hitting the top corner (which is apparent by the glare on Tyson’s boxing gloves as well).

        Much like in this photo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CASIO-QV-100-VGA-DIGITAL-CAMERA-WITH-LIQUID-CRYSTAL-DISPLAY-/111897183725

        As you notice in the video, when the patron moves the camera, the light disappears. Also, when the video states that it “flashes red ffs”, it appears to be flashes from other cameras reflecting off of the camera’s surface, as you can see flashes from other patrons capturing photos as well. In response to the comment that the device is white, most silver devices can appear to be lighter if the light shined on them is bright enough (hence, the reflection at the top corner), and it is apparent that the device seems to be darker when the reflection from the overhead light is not present.

  • richard mann

    Logitech Fotoman, 1990

    The first commercially available digital camera in the UK was not from one of the names you’d expect. The Fotoman, also sold as the Dycam Model 1, only produced 320x240pixel black and white images, had just 1MB of internal memory and a fixed focus lens. And all for the princely sum of £499.

    http://www.worldphoto.org/news-and-events/wpo-news/16-digital-cameras-that-changed-the-world/

    This one looks a great deal like the one in the photo. I’m just not up to buying into the time travel thing.

  • pam

    @richard mann Thanks for the link, that seems to be what this device is in the picture. I cannot even believe I commented on this ridiculous article as the TIME spent I CANNOT GO BACK AN GET BACK.

  • Dan Quixoté

    The professional career God has led me through, now in its third decade, has been almost exclusively in making the impossible, or improbable, real. Sometimes it’s debatable whether something even should be created. I get paid to make fringe science no longer fringey. Most people in this country have either owned or used or been surveiled by (I’m truly sorry, I wasn’t awake until 2012) something that’s been deployed through my work. It was revealed to me even in childhood that this was going to be my occupation. It’s a spiritual thing these days – if I get the cosmic imprimatur, God literally grants me the insights necessary to make it happen. When I don’t get the divine go-ahead, I decline the work. For example, I’ve never done work for governments/military or their subcontracted projects when invited to do so, and only once have I done design work for medical devices, because allopathic Western medicine is largely against your well being.

    At the risk of being flamed by the mostly cessationist readers, I’m also a Spirit-filled Christian mystic. The stuff I’ve been party to has been something else. I’ve had to repent of some of the old mysticism [e.g. God can transport you in the Spirit or give you visions if HE wants to, but turns out we’re not supposed to go astrally projecting outside our assigned place in space/time/dimension. And mind control influencing is also a no-no. Anything for selfish reasons is not kosher, only in service to God and his people.]. And had to learn to be obedient in spiritual warfare when it’s brought to my doorstep. There’s a reason we’re told to stay pure and holy. There’s a reason we’re to pray and fast.

    Anyway – That particular video? That’s not a time traveler, just an early adopter. In the tech world, Japan and South Korea gets the most advanced stuff first, because the buying public there craves that stuff, and is willing to pay the prices. Their overall lifestyle is fairly austere, but they’ll spend big on one or two tech gadgets, and on their life occasions (births, marriages, funerals). Some of my slickest consumer gadgetry in the late 2000’s went to South Korea, since they liked buying that stuff and I liked making it. Those two guys in the Tyson vid were definitely from southwest Asia, and were the opposite of broke.

    But time travel in general? Yes. That’s a thing. But we’re NOT supposed to mess with it. Interdimensional translation involving conscious beings – yes, same deal. Although my sense about overunity power generation, which interfaces with a couple of these non-Euclidian dimensions, is that it’s OK, since it’s purely (I think) mechanistic. Start by reading Bearden et al if interested, look up Vector Magnetic Potential – the “A-Field” which gives rise to the E- and H-fields scientists and engineers are used to, which has been at least publicly confirmed since the 1959 Ahoronov-Bohm experiments. And anti-grav is not only real, it’s not that hard. Even college students do E-field basef anti-grav projects. Superluminal (faster than light) propagation is also real. Cerezani, T.K. Ishii (whi I studied under) and others.

    To other points people are making –

    Yes, the Deep State has time travel. And I believe they know it’s as dangerous as anything else they’ve got. Also the moon & Mars bases, underground maglevs, the interplanetary fleet, the superluminal flight craft, the whole deal.

    Yes, Deep State has their tech decades before you know about it. Several decades. It’s “Sp3cia1 Acces5 Pr0ject5” (sorry, trigger word obfuscation) As one armed forces program manager from that world told me as part of our last conversation before he went completely dark for both our sakes, “If you’ve ever thought about it, if it’s even occurred to you, we’re already doing it.”

    This cosmos is a bigger wilder more dangerous more wonderful place than most (any) human knows. Our protection, provision, and path can only be found in God through Jesus. Do and be good, my brother’s and sisters.

    • DC

      Very interesting post, DQ. Thanks.

  • Gillian TJ

    Gillian TJ
    Once we’re with our Father GOD, could we do spiritual travel? r would that be so & my
    point is a moot one? Just curious.

  • Kim

    But serious Geoffrey?!

  • Aha

    Yes, it resembles a phone if you don’t look closely. If you DO look closely, it resembles a video camera of the 90s. This is just silly insanity. Time travel, give me a break!

    • Ron

      Only God could do it anyway, and I kind of suspected something like that but you can it better than I Aha!

      Blessings!

  • MRH

    EDITOR’S NOTE: I am sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for why a front row fan at a 1995 Mike Tyson fight is taking pictures with what looks for all the world like an Android smartphone that would not be on the market until 2008. It’s unique large, wide and flat shape stands out immediately. Watch the video and decide for yourself. I personally have always believed that time travel is possible. Albert Einstein himself thought time travel was possible as well. The greatest and most plausible novel ever written on time travel is ‘Time And Again‘ by Jack Finney, I highly recommend you read it.

    TIME TRAVEL??? I think Geoff must be on LSD, or maybe too many UFO sightings? 😯 😯

    Time = A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.

    Time is an observed phenomenon, by means of which human beings sense and record changes in the environment and in the universe. A literal definition is elusive. Time has been called an illusion, a dimension, a smooth-flowing continuum, and an expression of separation among events that occur in the same physical location.

    http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/time

    Hint: Time like space stands still, events/objects move within them. Objects travel in space but not in time. Likewise events travel in time but not in space. But time and space are together, and how the universe revolves. 😉

  • Pete
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  • GRACE

    I believe we should stick to the Word of God for deception is getting worse and the only way Jesus taught us to fight the lies of the enemy was in using the Word of God and by submitting to God and resisting the enemy.

  • Jesus Christ is Lord

    Man are you serious about what you decided to write Geoffery? This is crazy. It’s absurd. Your sincerity for the faith you profess is seriously in question here. Why would you even begin to believe and get in such stupidity ???

    Why would you write such an article ? And referring to the Bible as “shock value” !!!! Who are you ?

    • Ron

      Jesus Christ is Lord, Friend in Christ, your words have really stood out to me. I am not sure but I believe Geoffrey

      Grider has a day job, and most if not all of his posts are very Biblical.

      Geoffrey comes along and does one on time travel. I merely stated my opinion about it, I didn’t condemn him.

      After all He has done much for The Lord, more than I have, after all he

      has this blog that he has mainly used for the Glory of God and to promote His Kingdom. Now you come along and criticize

      him? Does not Geoffrey Stand before The Lord who sees him as sinless by The Lord’s very own Blood. How do we know the

      Holy Spirit did not have him write this article……

      To see who would criticize him ( and maybe give the site a little humor too )

      and those who did or will, have possibly contributed nothing to the Kingdom of God except criticize those who have?

      Maybe God is testing our hearts, not just some, all of us, and measuring us with our responses to Geoffrey?

      Remember Everyone has all the answers, until it comes time to help, then many are surprisingly absent.

      Christians read fictional books quite often, so why isn’t this one appropriate or

      are you The Geoffrey Grider Sea Lawyer Blog Police Patrol?

      God has a Scripture for everything.

      Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

      Geoffrey’s Master is The Lord

      God Bless!

      • Thanks for the support! Yes, I will “confess” that since I was a kid I have been FASCINATED with the idea of time travel. I see nothing in the Bible that says that talking about the concept of time travel is a sin. And one fine DAY very soon, we will travel thru time and space in the Rapture! So one way or the other, we will time travel 🙂

        • Ron

          God Bless You Geoffrey, You do a great work here for the Lord.

          And you are so right about our Spiritual Bodies when God Creates ( well even before then ) a New Heaven and Earth

          we will be able to go to the other side of the Universe in an instant and be able

          to enter stars to see the actual plasma you name it. Christ even walked in the Springs He made in the sea so will we.

          Yes it is a fascinating subject time travel is, for once we recieve our Glorified Bodies we will be able to do what

          was impossible in our Flesh!

          We will likely be able to do most of the things Christ has done and will do in the Future.

          Keep up the good work Geoffrey we are almost Home Brother soon very soon!!!!!

        • Ron

          P.S. You made my day!

          God Bless You!

      • Jesus Christ is LORD

        I just believe that referring to the Bible so casually and trivially, brings the person into question. Whoever that person may be. I don’t think any Christian should refer to God’s inspired words as shock value, as if it’s some fantasy story. Why go there ? That’s my point. Why go there ?
        It’s vain babblings. Avoid it.

        • Ron

          Then maybe you shouldn’t have gone there to begin with your vain babblings and listen to your own advice.

          Because I have been in almost the exact same position you have put him in, and did not appreciate someone coming

          behind me and saying; “did you hear what he said the Lord told Him to do?” to a friend of mine. But he defended me

          by saying to “How do you know what God told him to do?”

          Nothing vain here, except you don’t like what I said.

          None The less unlike you, God Bless You Jesus Christ is Lord!

        • Ron

          JCIL Quote:”I just believe that referring to the Bible so casually and trivially, brings the person into question.”:

          End Quote. How So?

          2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and

          is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for

          instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect,

          throughly furnished unto all good works.

          Again God Bless You JCIL!

  • DC

    To Michelle, I wrote you a long response, only to have lost it. I am having problems with this site. It won’t let me post right below someone’s name, so I have to go to the bottom. My new email address is being blocked but my old one is working. It won’t let me check the 2nd of the two boxes we can check. I am waiting for Geoffrey to sort it out for you and then I will rewrite my response. Please know that I am praying for you and I do care. For a great article about the soul, please go to the late (as of last year) Jack Kelley’s website. His wife is keeping the site running. He has an “Ask a Bible Teacher” column and you can also search for topics he’s covered. I’m also including the gotquestions? link I used above.

    https://gracethrufaith.com/topical-studies/tough-questions-answered/body-soul-and-spirit/

    http://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul-mortal-immortal.html

  • DC

    to Gillian: I guess I’m still having problems. I tried to answer your question twice but nothing happened when I hit post. I did a search “glorified bodies visiting earth” and here are the results. Hope it helps.

    • DC

      Can’t get link to post, but just do a search of your own and you’ll get same results.

  • MRH

    “Did you notice that none of the comments under Michelle’s has a “leave a reply”

    DC: That’s because of Reply tier limitation. 🙁 Watch as I reply to myself 😉

    1 Comment (here)
    2 Reply (next)
    3 Reply (next)
    4 (no reply)

    P.S. For long comments/replies I also do in notepad 🙂

    • MRH

      2 Reply (next)

      • MRH

        3 Reply (next)

        • MRH

          4 (Reply)

          • MRH

            5 (?)

        • DC

          I’m still having problems. I tried to respond to you and provide link I forgot for Gillian and nothing shows up. Thanks for explanation. Hope this goes thru.

          • MRH

            Seems 4 tier is max 😉

      • DC

        That’s really cool how you figured that out and your demo was good. thanks.
        Still can’t post below or link to Gillian but I do think it’s this page.

        • MRH

          DC: Are you certain your comments aren’t posting? Regarding 4 tier max, I’ve known about that from the beginning. I suspect it is a Word Press limitation. I don’t recall any Gillian?

          • DC

            Some posted, some didn’t. I do appreciate you trying to help me out and the longer response on my comments to Michelle. I’ll check out the video. Christian music is so uplifting, and boy do we need it!

            Gillian was several posts back:

            Gillian TJ 18 May 2016 at 4:22 pmLeave a Reply
            Gillian TJ
            Once we’re with our Father GOD, could we do spiritual travel? r would that be so & my
            point is a moot one? Just curious.

          • MRH

            DC: What browser are you using? Also malware can cause issues. Anyway, check out my two links there as well as video, and please respond there too, as only 1st tier. And I’ll check out Gillian’s post.

  • MRH

    DC: See my below inserts next to your excerpts from above reply to Michelle 🙂

    “Ok, it seems like the site is allowing me to post. I was getting a little paranoid there!” = I’ve often noticed a varied delay in posting comments. So what I do is simply press browser refresh until comment shows 😉

    “Have you accepted Jesus’ payment on the Cross for your sin? Is He your personal Lord and Savior?” = Absolutely 😀 The irony is that becoming a Christian is so simple that it is impossible for most folk to comprehend. Which is why many are called but few are chosen 😥 Anyway, here is my 2nd bible study site, which has my bible story on the home page 🙂 = http://aeroventure.com/Prophesy-101/Prophesy-101.htm

    “As for Christians arguing with each other, MRH is right that the early Church argued…” = Well although we are now saints we are also still sinners being that we are still human beings with big egos whom give in to temptations 🙄

    “Today’s argument of doctrine is just as frustrating, especially to a new believer…” = The only real difference between non-Christians and Christians is that the latter have the Spirit sealed deep within their hearts 🙂

    “Every opinion appears to be backed up by Scripture, but beware of those who would twist it to suit their own ideas…” = Unfortunately that effect is all too common within the church. And both Jesus and Paul warned us of such effect 🙁 = [Rom 16:17-18 KJV] 17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

    “The King James Version is the most authenticated, in my opinion, but you’ll find plenty of people who disagree…” = The following study link is from my 1st bible study site (which site is linked on my 2nd bible study Home Page) = http://aeroventure.com/A_Message_To_All/The_Documents/How_should_we_study_scripture-FRAMEPAGE.htm

    “Even pastors will distort the Word to support an agenda. That’s why we have so many cults. We humans are born to worship. Either we will fill that God-sized hole in us with the Lord, or we’ll fall into deception…” = Absolutely, and the bible gives strong warning 😯 = [Mat 7:15 KJV] 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [Luk 21:8 KJV] 8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. [Act 20:29 KJV] 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. [1Ti 4:1 KJV] 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; [Heb 13:9 KJV] 9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For [it is] a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

    “Here is a beautiful song that came to me just for you. THIS is why we’re here: to worship the Lord and spread the news of the Gospel…” = Yes beautiful song and voice. Also check out another great version of same song by Kim Walker 😀

    https://youtu.be/uFsUehJSosE

  • Gillian TJ

    May 2016
    Hi Dc- (sorry all-an unrelated topic to days one. Below is frm few days ago- the page wont let me leave any comments have bn trying for few days now-just get the following: “ What is going on?
    You are not allowed to access the requested page “)
    Frm Gillian. Thanks so much, I checked out “glorified bodies visiting earth” on the NET & it was really helpful. Shld you have anymore info pls let me know. Cant wait for our Lord JESUS CHRIST to come get us & then we can all maybe do some spiritual travelling through the galaxy with Him

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