The New World Order Message In Terminator Genisys Movie Reveals Global Plan

Terminator Genisys is a real-time message from the New World Order, and it's "coming soon to a theater near you", as the old saying goes. Terminator Genisys is a...
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Terminator Genisys is a real-time warning to a sleeping world, daring us to wake up and address it.

“For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” Revelation 16:14 (KJV)

Let me start by saying that this is not a movie review in the typical sense. Last night, I took my kids to see Terminator Genisys starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, and as we expected it was a non-stop action thriller. But the message that was contained within the plot was more exciting than anything having to do with the movie itself. Terminator Genisys is a real-time message from the New World Order, and it’s “coming soon to a theater near you”, as the old saying goes. Terminator Genisys is a warning to a sleeping world, daring us to wake up and address it.

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The basic plot is this: John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time to protect Sarah Connor, but when he arrives in 1984, nothing is as he expected it to be. Queue Arnold, and let the merriment begin! That’s all the vast majority of people will see when they watch this movie. But let me tell you what I saw last night.

Genisys in the movie is an app, albeit the world’s most popular one, and it works on the premise that the Internet will be used as the all-seeing eye to keep track of everything we see, say and do. It offers convenience and safety to the plugged-in world. What they don’t know, however, is that Genisys is not really Genisys, it’s SkyNet, the watchdog of the evil machines and it will be used to enslave the humans once they have all plugged into it. The people, seeing nothing but cool technology and benefits, rush to embrace it, eagerly sign on to connect with the Genisys app, and you know how it all ends.

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16,17 (KJV)

The Genisys app is more than just a convenience, it is a One World System that, if you remain outside of it, will not allow you to buy, sell, or successfully interact with the rest of society. Now what does that sound like to you? It sounds a whole lot like our world today. We are rushing at breakneck speed to embrace and adopt technology that we don’t even come close to understanding. The evil SkyNet system from the Terminator series is exactly the state of the Internet today in 2015. Once we are all fully and voluntarily plugged in, the system will no longer be voluntary. It will reach it’s zenith in the Mark Of The Beast under Antichrist after the Rapture of the Church.

Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg says that as that technology improves, he foresees us bypassing smartphones and computers altogether, and speaking to each other using the power of our minds One day, I believe we’ll be able to send full rich thoughts to each other directly using technology,” he said. “You’ll just be able to think of something and your friends will immediately be able to experience it too if you’d like. This would be the ultimate communication technology.” source

Wow, did you catch that? If we “bypass smartphones and computers”, how then are we talking to each other? What he doesn’t say is that it will be through a chip implanted inside our bodies, exactly as outlined in chapter 13 of Revelation.

Facebook and Google are two major end times players

If you think I am exaggerating, then please consider the following: Facebook started out in 2004 as a hackers website to “rate hot chicks”. In 2015, Facebook is now the world’s largest website, feeds all our information to the CIA and the FBI, is building virtual reality fantasy worlds like we see in the movies, and is about to unleash a fleet of drones with wingspans larger than 767 jumbo jets that will encircle the earth. Google started out in 1998 as a search engine for geeks by geeks. Their homepage was and still is innocent-looking cartoons and silly line drawings. But Google is the largest supplier to the US Military machine, and is the world’s largest producer of military grade robots. They also have photographed and mapped the entire world and have connected it through satellites. No more hiding places. They are also developing cyborg technology, and recently purchased Nest, a company that will monitor inside your entire house via smart meters and internet-ready home devices. Last but not least, they are spending millions to develop a microchip to implant in your brain. Whew! Still with me?

Terminator Genisys is the future, our future. The Bible says it will end for us the same way that it ends for the people in the movie, the system is evil and will turn against us. Go back and reread the quote from Zuckerberg on using technology to read each others minds, communication via telepathy. Just last week, a robot killed a factory worker at a Volkswagen plant in Germany. Don’t wait for the future, it’s already here and it’s against you!

Go out and watch Terminator Genisys, then come home and read the book of Revelation from the Bible. It’s time to wake up….

…are you ready for what comes next?

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.

  • That’s why I have been telling people that if they look at the current trends of Hollywood Movies they all moving towards an ultimate agenda. Cern and their time portals go hand and hand with the avengers or x-men series. LUCY & Johnny Depp Transcended as well.

    I think now that same sex marriage is passed and as they( LGBT Movement) received other special rights this will make way for the new agenda trans-humanism. If you haven’t heard it look it. By 2040 it will be in full effect. Want more info go to http://www.driveinternationaloutreach.org

    • A O

      There is another article from Psychology Today titled, “Will the LGBT Movement Evolve Into Transhumanism?
      The LGBT movement and transhumanism have a lot in common.”

      https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-transhumanist-philosopher/201501/will-the-lgbt-movement-evolve-transhumanism

      • Thanks A O appreciate the info and it’s a great article . If I was in the republican party I would make sure that I would start making laws now to slow the inevitable. Maybe give a little to the LGBT movement with wording that can delay the trans humanism movement. I know some say resist all the way but I think they can get just as much accomplish for the greater good if they think ahead. Christian talk radio (AFR)they don’t get it, they sound like bigots so we cont. to loose ground let’s say we get on the offense and make laws specific right now against it we can delay this for as long as possible.

        • A O

          Give a little to the LGBT movement? What more do they want?

          It would be foolish to believe that the US Supreme Court settled this extremely controversial issue. In fact, they may have very well started a significant movement, a strong backlash, in the other direction. We’ll see what happens at the polls in November 2016.

          Congress does have the power to override (I believe this is the correct term) US Supreme Court decisions with legislation or Constitutional amendments. I wouldn’t be surprised if, eventually, a Constitutional amendment passes that either defines marriage as the union between one man and one woman or grants states the right to define marriage through a popular vote only.

          • Well I would love for all what you said to come true, but if we go according to prophesy it’s just inevitable.

            If you look at all the articles on this site Christians are soon to be a minority. I mean the true church. Methodist, United Church of Christ , Presbyterian all have already excepted LGBT movement. Others are soon to accept and the other religions across the world will not care.

            I agree we have given them to much already , but just like the abortion fight ( Pro-Life)we been fighting small battles here and there winning and losing some but the ultimate war has been lost. I think we will never stop abortion despite all the efforts. A full republican congress and a republican president who would not veto a bill if pass , would not have enough guts to pull such a huge task. ( I wish they would but I doubt)
            If I had a wish list I would say let’s do all what you suggest and more but these politicians are so shady they say things and don’t have the guts to follow through.

            When I listen to conservative talk I always hear them say the majority of people etc. etc. but I think the majority is clueless and they have no moral convictions.

            They ( conservative talk) even foolishly thought President Obama wasn’t going to get elected again because the people would speak up or the country finally sees through him etc. etc. but in all do respect the country voted according to their moral convictions and I think the majority of people will not care about fixing the LGBT movement or any other movement that defends religious freedom.

            roe vs wade happen in 1973 42years later we still fighting . I don’t want to be discussing old scenarios 42 years later on the LGBT movement.

            All im suggesting is if they are sneaky enough to get this finally past for themselves after a 30 year process from their point of view, we should start being sneaky enough to start putting law makers in place that agree the trans humanism fight is next and do all possible to delay that for as long as we can.

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  • J2

    I had a vision – one of many – years ago. Think of the times when all the truth was written. Roman times. I have tried to tell people time and time again. WWW = VIVIVI. Similar? You cannot buy or sell since all gasoloine, food, hardware etc. purchases are all connected to the internet. All banking. The number of his name = IP addresses: 192.168.1.1 or similar. it is all connected and happening soon.

  • As the song goes……”soon and very soon….we’re going to see the King!”
    Even so, come Lord Jesus.

  • Maggie

    When will you people understand that the church will NOT GET RAPTURE OUT?

    The Bible says:

    “…immediately AFTER the tribulation in those days…”

    Read your scripture! Don’t count on the pastors/preachers/priests to tell it to you right!

    • Andrew A

      Did a pastor/preacher/priest explain post trib rapture concept to you by chance?

      • Maggie

        No. I don’t trust 501(c)3 status churches. They sold their members to the govt. They sold their lives to the govt for health care… Sad…. Hate to be them on judgment day!

        • Andrew A

          Well then. I will follow you advice and look to scripture which immediately brings to mind the following passage.

          Revelation ch 3 verse 10 (kjv)

          10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

          Verse 10 Jesus declares to “keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world.” God is Promising to keep out not merely preserve during the trial but remove from the period and trial all together. You could use the verb “snatched up” in this case.

          Why is he doing this because the people He has described has “kept the word of his patience.”

          Only one Group of people that have ever been talked about in the bible has kept the word of Jesus’s Patience and that he will come to judge the world. That is the Church.

          Before you say that only applies to church of Sarids. Does only the Overcomers of Ephesus get the reward of eternal life?

          That only Overcomers of Smyrna avoid the 2nd death?

          Or the Overcomers of laodicea get to sit with him on his throne?

          No, these are things Jesus has promised all believers in the church. So all who overcome are entitled to all the rewards promised in the letters to the churches. I suggest you read or Re read them to see what Jesus has guaranteed all who belive in him.

          • Maggie

            My Father has patterns throughout the Bible. Knowledge is offered and available then comes the test. After the 3 tests have been given, the remaining are His Faithful.

            “…If he love me, keep my commandments… ”
            (“Commandments ” refers to the law and statutes given at Mount Sinai.)
            Here is a list referring to the commandments that everyone should read because it is the way our Father works and by which we will be judged:

            John 14:15, 15:10
            Prov. 3:2, 4:4, 6:20, 7:1-2
            Lev. 22:31, 26:3
            Ex. 16:28, 20:6
            Deut 5:10, 29
            1 Kings 3:14, 6:12, 9:4,6, 11:38
            2 Kings 17:13
            Neh. 1:9, 13:22
            PS. 89:31, 119:15
            Dan. 9:4
            1 Chronicles 29:19

            Blessings to those who search. <3

          • Maggie

            Did God call the Hebrew slaves to heaven when He used Moses to deal with Pharaoh? Weren’t they still right in the middle of everything going on but untouched? Did they not see the plagues going on around them? God brought them through safely but left them with feet on this earth. Likewise when Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were cast into the fiery furnace. Remember Daniel in the lion’s den? Is it hard to believe that God can leave His children right here on earth during the tribulation and still deliver them from the hour of temptation? God is not limited like our comprehension of His capabilities is.

          • Andrew A

            You said:
            “My Father has patterns throughout the Bible. Knowledge is offered and available then comes the test. After the 3 tests have been given, the remaining are His Faithful.

            “…If he love me, keep my commandments… ”
            (“Commandments ” refers to the law and statutes given at Mount Sinai.)
            Here is a list referring to the commandments that everyone should read because it is the way our Father works and by which we will be judged:”

            Then you Listed texts to read to explain your position.

            My response to that is what Paul said on the mater of the Law and Jesus in relation to the Church as written in the book of Ephesians chapter 2. Their was no need I felt to explain the chapter as the Holy Spirit through Paul is very self explanatory in 2nd Ephesians ch 2. I also felt no need to add anything Extra because it is in total the perfect answer of my relation and any Christian’s relation to God and gives a short explanation on everything concerning redemption, sin, the law,Purpose of the Church, as well as the purpose of any works a christian might do.

            If you are confused by the passage I could try to help you understand it if you would like?

        • Andrew A

          In response to your commandments comment. Here is an explanation on what is mean by that for the Church.

          Ephesians Chapter 2 (kjv)
          1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

          2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

          3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

          4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

          5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

          6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

          7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

          8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

          9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

          10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

          11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

          12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

          13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

          14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

          15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

          16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

          17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

          18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

          19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

          20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

          21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

          22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

          • Maggie

            I don’t understand what you are trying to say sir.

          • Maggie

            Pay attention to verse 11. They were Gentiles at one time. This was a lecture for encouragement, not a lecture on how to live in harmony with the law and statutes.

          • Andrew A

            I agree however you have missed or overlooked apparently verse 13, 14 and 15.

            Which declares Gentile and Jew are made into one new creation unto God. That God has broken down the Middle wall of partition. What is the Middle wall the separates Gentile from Jew that is mentioned in Exodus and Deuteronomy when God says he will separate His people from the rest of the World and give them Laws and commandments. However verse 15 is the most important of the verse we are focusing on at this moment.

            Ephesians ch 2 verse 15
            15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

            He abolished sin, even The Law of Commandments contained in ordinances.(Note: the Law of Mosses) So that Christ could make in himself a new man and bring peace.

            I was a Gentile I know some who were Jews. However we stopped being that when we became followers in Christ and instead became something new.

        • Andrew A

          I gave my explanation since you were confused but I accidentally responded to myself. You can read it under your explanation on why you feel in the Great tribulation we will not be taken to heaven for God has protected his faithful on the earth before such as the fiery furnace and the plagues of Egypt.

          As for the answer I noticed you left out the fact He Removed Lot from Sodom and Gomorrah and even said He could not destroy the cities tell Lot was safely away. Lot is a good representation of the Church in this case. As he is not part of Gods covenant with Abraham but for Abraham’s sake and the fact that Lot was Faith full to God he was saved by Grace and removed from the judgment that came to the people around him.

          What I can say is the church is like no other creation on this earth. It is made up of Believers who through the grace of God and Jesus the Christ’s sacrifice was and is made into sons of God. (Note: this is said in John ch 1)

          Who before were Jews or Gentiles but by the blood of the Lamb were made into one new body in Christ. God deals with that creation different then He does with the Jews and the Gentiles. Why because all who are part of the church have been baptized by the Holy Ghost and have been made a temple inhabited by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit being God means the Church is in a unique position in relation to the rest of mankind.

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Andrew A – A very Biblically sound response to a woman who is fulfilling the Biblical Prophecy of Isaiah 6:9, KJV, as told by “the Lord Jesus Christ:
            [14] And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith,
            By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand;
            and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
            [15] For this people’s heart is waxed gross,
            and their ears are dull of hearing,
            and their eyes they have closed;
            lest at any time they should see with their eyes,
            and hear with their ears,
            and should understand with their heart,
            and should be converted,
            and I should heal them.
            (Matthew, Chapter 13, KJB)
            .

          • Maggie

            I don’t understand why you people need to belittle others? Does it make you feel special? Why do you do it?

            You don’t understand what you are doing to others. If you truly cared about others’ salvation, you would be showing the love of Yeshua. Not talking down or about people like the Pharisees. Shame on you. May or blessed Father not forever be shamed by people who profess to live and obey Him while they attack “passively and aggressively” like a serpent.

            I speak truth. I am not being a bully or troll. I am letting you know to your gave what you are doing. It is up to you to change your way. No one can do it for you.

          • Andrew A

            Bro Nicholas I do thank you for the complement on the response of what I have written. I don’t ever feel comfortable accepting such praise normally because when I am talking about scripture it is not my words I am writing but what the Holy Spirit has dictated in the Bible and left for all to see. I am mostly responding because I feel while some might disagree with you postings and talking I find your words to be helpful. After all who can complain when the words of the lord is displayed for all to see.

          • aj albrecht

            We should not be divided, we should be united. There are good arguements for both sides of this equation. I see Christians being beheaded by Isis, they havent denied their faith in Jesus.
            Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and which had not worshiped the Beast, Neither his image,neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hand, and they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. I dont think we can say with 100 percent when the rapture will happen. But, it is better to prepare for the Tribulation, and be surprised by the Rapture, than to prepare for the rapture and be surprised by the Tribulation. Why is there going to be a great falling away? maybe because of Tribulation.

        • Andrew A

          Were did I belittle others? As far as special everyone who comes to accept the lord is a great treasure to God and He Loves and considers all who believe on Jesus name to be made sons of God as said this is said word for word in John ch 1.

          See John ch 1 verse 11-15
          11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

          12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

          13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

          14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

          15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

          That makes Belevers in his name different or

          Unique:
          being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else.

          As followers in Christ are now unlike anything else having been changed by the Grace of God.

          Please show were I have talked down to you? I have done nothing but read everything you have posted and then respond to any biblical point you have made with scripture. If you think my response of explaining your point about the Great Tribulation and God protecting people is with in his power was talking down I was merely showing that the point you conveyed I had read.

          I would also like to say you have yet to talk about the Fact Lot does not fit into the examples you gave nor have you addressed it.

          Please don’t make assumptions about my thoughts. I have found most people assume incorrectly.

      • Maggie

        Besides, it’s easy enough to understand if you search the scriptures:

        “…immediately after the tribulation in those days…”

        Joel 3:15
        Isaiah 13:10
        Matthew 24:29
        Mark 13:24
        Ecclesiastes 13:2

        Revelation 6:9-14
        “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.”

        • alain humbert

          Well sister,

          just keep your Faith In JESUS-CHRIST.
          And prepare to get a pleasant surprise.

          GOD BLESS you.

          • Maggie

            I would prefer if you would pray about the info I shared and ask HaShem for specific signs if it is true.
            Take care

          • Heather

            The problem with what you shared Maggie is that the promises made by the Lord Jesus to His Bride, are completely over looked only to shed light on “after the tribulation”.

          • Maggie

            Heather,

            That was the whole point, yes. You’ve got it right. Good for you!

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Maggie – Just because you have personally chosen to use verses that are not in context (which is a pretext) to ‘prove your beliefs’ does not make your statement(s) “the truth” Biblically.

          An example of ‘proving’ nearly anything that you want to by twisting and taking out of context what “the words of truth” that are written in “the word of the LORD”, the Holy Bible, KJV actually says is:

          – “And he said unto them, Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do” – “… and departed, and went and hanged himself.”

          Does that ‘out of context’ twisting of that which is written in “the word of the LORD” ‘prove that we are to go and hang ourselves’ – ABSOLUTELY NOT – For IT IS NOT “rightly dividing the word of truth”:
          “If we believe not,
          yet he abideth faithful:
          he cannot deny himself.
          Of these things put them in remembrance,
          charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit,
          but to the subverting of the hearers.
          ~ Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
          ~ a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
          ~ rightly dividing the word of truth.
          – But shun profane and vain babblings:
          – for they will increase unto more ungodliness.”
          (2 Timothy 2:13-16, KJB)
          .

          • Maggie

            I question you dear brother:

            Do you know how to ask of the Father if these things are so?
            Do you know the story of Gideon?
            Do you know what a “proverbial fleece” is?

    • Collin

      Hi Maggie,

      Actually we the Church or Bride of Christ will be pulled out. What Jesus is referring to here are His “elect”, or Jews. Of course only the Jews who have received Him as Messiah. He’s referring to the 144,000 sealed in Revelation, Let’s read!

      And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
      Matthew 24:31 (KJV)

      Now if you read Revelation chapter 7, we see the same Angels Jesus was talking about in Matthew.

      And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
      And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
      Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
      And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
      Revelation 7:1-4 (KJV)

      As always, one piece of Scripture can be Proven by another piece of Scripture. When Jesus says the “elect”, He is talking about the 144,000 sealed Jews. The Church, “Christians”, are already raptured. God will always pull His people out, before His judgement or wrath comes (Noah, Lot etc…). The Apostle Paul made this very clear. Please read these Scriptures I’ve posted!!!

      For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
      1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV)

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Collin – Thanks be unto “the Lord God Almighty” for His Continuous Wondrous Mercy and Grace to those few who have been “converted” and now are “believeth” followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” who paid for all mankinds sins, obeying His Commands — NOT to get saved — but BECAUSE we are “saved”, we do love Him who hath saved our souls for all eternity:
        “For by grace are ye saved through faith;
        and that not of yourselves:
        ~ it is the gift of God:
        Not of works, lest any man should boast.
        For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
        which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”
        (Ephesians 2:8-10, KJB)
        .

  • kiwiwatcher

    Greetings brothers and sisters

    God bless Geoffrey Grider and his work

    Matthew 24; 29-30
    Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    Matthew 24; 37-39
    But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Fortunately the Church/Bride will be with Christ prior just as Noah and family were in the Ark, having been caught up together. Nice to note that Christ does not come to the earth in this event but only to the clouds.

    1 Thess 4; 17
    Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    I have felt for some time that the internet (mainly wifi or wireless) would be the tool of mass control in the last days, as in the mark of the beast. It will be interesting into whose hands this tool will finally end up. A chip or barcode is too obvious to be accepted. We have followed this line for over 100 years and its just old had. The remaining population will gleefully accept their ball and chain and currently are being seduced into accepting a system that will ultimately control the population as a group and individually – the internet.
    However, the internet/satellite system is a fragile beast and is vulnerable to solar flares or ejected plasma from the sun. This is being closely monitored by scientists and data being gathered as each solar flare tends to cause some disturbances. Long story short – in the last days God will send to earth a strong solar flare that will disable all computer and electronics systems on the planet, reducing it instantly to the dark ages.

    Rev 18;10
    Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgement come.

    Just a thought that I can not explain where it arrived from.
    I have a feeling that soon there will be increased UFO and ‘alien’ sightings or contacts. Then the Rapture will occur and the world will unite to explain the missing true believers as being ‘abducted’
    Any evidence or signs would be appreciated.

    • Joshua Morrow

      The Internet is also where the two witnesses will preach. It says they will preach in Sodom, spirituAl Egypt, where the Lord was crucified. Before he was literally crucified he was crucified when they said” Give us Barabas” at that moment he was doomed to die on the cross. They were given a opinion poll by Pontius Pilate. They wer in the square. Today the global town square is on the internet.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Joshua Morrow – What you wrote is truly ‘spiritualizing’ “the truth” that is clearly written in “the word of the LORD”, and Biblically you are one of the increasing number of “false teachers” in these ‘end-of-the-end times’ of increasing ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions and deceit’:
        “But there were false prophets also among the people,
        even as there shall be false teachers among you,
        who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,
        even denying the Lord that bought them,
        and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
        And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
        by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
        And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:
        whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not,
        and their damnation slumbereth not.”
        (2 Peter 2:1-3, KJB)

        You say that ‘your lord was crucified twice’ –
        YET it is clearly written in “the truth”, “the law of God”, the Holy Bible (KJV) thirty seven (37) times that my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” was crucified ONLY ONE TIME.

        There is a very severe eternal warning given in “the word of the LORD” about those who add to – or take away from “that which is written” in “the scripture of truth”:
        “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
        If any man shall add unto these things,
        God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
        And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
        God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
        and out of the holy city,
        and from the things which are written in this book.”
        (‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ 22, 18-19, KJB)

        There are also warnings written in Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32 | Proverbs 30:5-6 | Ecclesiastes 3:14-15 | Galatians 3:18, KJV
        .

      • Maggie

        You are right, Joshua Marrow. The two witnesses are on the internet. They are EVERYWHERE!!!

        The two witnesses are the First and Second Testaments. (Old and New Testaments).

        Where is the proof? The French Revolution is the proof. France killed the Bible and sent presents to each other when they killed it. For three days there was celebration at their removal. Then they were reinstituted the third day because of such wickedness and law breaking taking place. Not to mention the horrible earthquake that took place there! #Research it out my friends!

        • Heather

          What??? This is pure nonsense. Go back and Revelation, and while your at it you may want to ask the Lord to give you some eye salve so you may be able to SEE.

          • Maggie

            Thank you for revealing your true nature, sister.

            A woman of HaShem never belittles those she disagrees with.

          • Heather

            Thank you for revealing your true trolling techniques. Look at your postings all up and down this page.

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Heather – Sister, Please continue to “be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might”, for we know that “the truth” which the Apostle Paul wrote about is truly coming to pass – more and more:
            “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
            deceiving, and being deceived.”
            (2 Timothy 3:13, KJB)
            .

          • Maggie

            I have reason to believe you two are in league together to bully people on the site. Your character speaks much louder than your actual words. Please don’t talk to me anymore Brother Nick and Heather. I feel that you two are possibly the same person. Good day to you.

          • Heather

            Thank you Bro Nick. I will take heed to your advice, but what got under my skin was Maggie’s comments to you at July 7th @ 11 : 02 am.

            I consider Bro Nick to be our eldest brother on this site. I don’t say this to mean in terms of age. I say this to mean in terms of knowledge of the word of God!

        • alain humbert

          Sister Maggie,

          That’s the Seventh-Day Adventists’ interpretation.

          From the church’s own prophetess Mrs. Ellen G. White’s 1888″The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan”.

          The book is considered as extra-Biblical sacred writ
          to be believed above the Bible.

          • Maggie

            Most SDAs do NOT believe EGW is above the Bible, Alain. Certainly not I. But why don’t you research it instead of being accusatory?

          • Heather

            Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Therefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. – Hebrews 7:21-25.

            So Scripture is clear that salvation is and always has been achieved through faith, not works of the law. Paul makes this even clearer in the book of Galatians, addressing a church that was infiltrated by “judaizers” – men who claimed that anyone who wanted to be Christian had to follow the law of Moses:

            O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?  This only would I learn of you, Received ye theSpirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?  Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. – Galatians 3:1-4.

            Paul compared the belief that keeping the law saves to witchcraft. And he admonishes this church to remember that they were saved not by their works, but through faith. They received the Holy Spirit once they believed the Gospel, that Jesus Christ died for their sins and took the punishment of God’s wrath for them on the cross and rose on the third day. Believing that doing good works of the law can save makes the Christian life vanity. Why? Because it denies the faith in the work that Christ did. Christ’s work and sacrifice accomplishes everything for the Christian.

  • Bro. Nick Nicholas

    For those who are truly believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” who have come to the Biblical understanding that there indeed is a ‘pre-tribulation Rapture’ – which seems to be fewer and fewer in number
    ~ Now is more than ever the time for to depend upon that which is written in “the word of the LORD” ~ and to constantly remember that we are always to “walk by faith, and NOT by SIGHT”
    – RIGHT NOW !

    While there certainly is much convergence of so many different indicators of the fulfillment of Biblical ‘end times’ events – including the ongoing financial collapse in Greece – I have personally read nowhere in the Holy Bible, KJV about the followers of Jesus Christ to be ‘preppers’.
    Normal precautions – Yes – but we do not know if this – or any other event – will even have much affect upon us here in non-prophetically significant ‘Amerika’

    I personally concur with the Biblical understanding of a few sound Preachers and Teachers of “the word of the LORD”
    – that Satan is preparing a time of such MONUMENTAL DECEPTION “… to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect …” (Mark 13:22, KJB) – BEFORE THE RAPTURE !
    Followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” MUST REMEMBER the very strong Biblical warning:
    [6] Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
    [7] Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
    [8] Be sober, be vigilant;
    – because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
    [9] Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
    [10] But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
    after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
    [11] To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
    Amen.
    (1 Peter 5:6-11, KJB)

    May ALL Biblical “Christians” remember and believe absolutely “THE CERTAINTY OF THE WORDS OF TRUTH” (Proverbs 22:17-21, KJB) that are written in “the word of the LORD”:
    “The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.”
    (Nahum 1:7, KJB) + Isaiah 26:3-4 | Habakkuk 3:18-19, KJV

    Please remember that there are NO SIGNS given for the promise of
    ‘the pre-tribulation Rapture’ – which is only for “THE CHURCH”:
    “In a moment,
    in the twinkling of an eye,
    AT THE LAST TRUMP:
    for the trumpet shall sound,
    and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
    (1 Corinthians 15:52, KJB)

    ~ with no ‘signs’ ~ BUT WITH PRECISE SOUNDS:
    “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven WITH A SHOUT,
    WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL,
    and WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD:
    and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together WITH them in the clouds,
    to meet the Lord in the air:
    and so shall we ever be WITH THE LORD.
    Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words.”
    (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, KJB)

    “He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
    Amen.
    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
    The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be WITH you all.
    Amen.”
    (‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ 22:20-21, KJB)

    ~ CAPITALization and emphasis of “the word of the LORD” is mine – Bro. Nick

    • Angel

      The fact that Satan is working so hard to attack the pre-tribulation rapture is a signal for me that it is true. If you even study (with precaution and prayer of protection) what New Age believers say you will be stumped and amazed at how Satan will twist everything.

      For example: New Age guru David Spangler writes that “those attuned to the old world” will be “transported through the [cosmic] law of attraction” to “another planet, plane of existence or level of earth’s consciousness where they can be contained… the main point is that they will lose, for the time being, their access to the etheric planes of power and the ability to control or influence the developments upon earth.” (Revelation, Birth of a New Age, pp.163-4)

      The new agers who are also channel the demonic believe that those who cannot fit in the New Age of Illumination will be taken out before the time of ‘peace’ will come. Sounds familiar? Yup. Pre-trib. Unfortunately, they do not understand that when they say peace and safety that is the time when Judgement will come. Satan already has a ready made explanation for the rapture may it be alien abduction or his major deception.

      And the more I study the feasts of the Lord, the more I believe that it is pre-trib. Jesus had fulfilled the first four feasts Passover (when He was crucified), Unleavened Bread(when he rose from the dead), First Fruits(when He ascended into heaven), and Pentecost(the Holy Spirit descending upon the apostles) during his first appearing and I’m sure that he will also fulfill the Feast of Trumpets (which i also the the feast when the trumpets are blasted, the time when the day or the hour is not known, also known as the arrival of the king, ), Day of Atonement (a day of atonement of sins), and Feast of Tabernacles (the season for rejoicing).

      God is good and I believe in His plans.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Angel – Thank you for making the very valid statements about Satan using the ‘NAM’ / ‘NWO’ / ‘ecumenism’ / etc….. to make his malevolent multi-faceted attacks upon the Biblical doctrines and teachings of CHRISTianity.

        There is a tremendous lesson written in 1 Kings, Chapter 13:1-32 ~ that ONLY “the word of the LORD” is “the truth” – regardless of what any individual, ‘pastor’, or denomination, or ….. may say.
        This is “the Rock” upon which true believers and followers of “our Lord Jesus Christ” must stand upon during these increasingly evil end times when the arch-enemy of our souls – “Lucifer”, “the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan” is using what will finally become UNPRECEDENTED attacks, using
        – ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions, and deliberate deceit’
        – and ‘verbal semantics and attacks’ using disinformation, propaganda, and outright lies
        which is causing an ever increasing number of those people who are not truly “born again” believers or followers of “the Lord Jesus Christ” to become more “dull of hearing” of anything that is Biblically “the truth”
        – and the more frequent occurrences of those that are being given over to an increasingly “reprobate mind”

        My prayer is that there will be more and more souls to become truly “converted” believers and followers of “Christ Jesus”:
        “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
        but fellowcitizens with the saints,
        and of the household of God;
        And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
        Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
        In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
        In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”
        (Ephesians 2:19-22, KJB)

        “He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
        Amen.
        Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
        The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be WITH you all.
        Amen.”
        (‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ’ 22:20-21, KJB)
        .

      • Heather

        When I first read these verses many years ago, I was astonished at these verses. As these years have passed by, and as the unrighteous wax worse and worse, and as we approach the final stretch of the age of God’s Grace, these verses come with PERFECT CLARITY.
        I am sickened with such sadness in my soul, of the MULTITUDES in this evil world, that have chosen the ways of Satan. It blows my mind, for there are SO MANY.

        Matthew 7:13-14 KJV

        13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

        14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

      • Heather

        Amen Bro Nick and to Angel!

        Angel it is interesting how Jesus fulfilled the first four feast, and there still remains three fall feast unfulfilled. These feast of the Lord, I believe, are much more important than most realize and they are important to God. When I made the effort to learn about them, I was truly amazed. The Lord also tells us a little about what He will expect during the Feast of Tabernacles in the following verses.

        Zechariah 14: 16-19

        16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came
        against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of
        hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

        17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

        18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

        19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

      • Maggie

        Dear brother, your perspective of how the feasts line up with the Messiah’s life and death on this planet is a bit askew. I only offer a bit of help:

        Passover: His death
        First Fruits: He was the first fruit of the harvest to come.
        1)Unleavened Bread: His life without sin
        2)The Feast of First Fruits (Pentecost): The disciples received the Holy Spirit sent to then by Yeshua after His ascension to the Father.
        3)The Feast of Trumpets: Trumpets blasting
        The Day of Atonement: Probation closes upon the world.
        4) The Feast of Tabernacles: We are taken to dwell with our Father.

        The feasts are set up in a wedding preparation type of manner for the Hebrew traditions. Passover is the equivalent of the marriage contract being completed. The Feast of Tabernacles is the equivalent of being a celebration of following the bride and groom to the groom’s newly prepared home for the bride with the congregation filtering right behind them! It’s all so very beautiful!

        Also, they all co-inside with gestation for the birth of a baby.
        Amazing huh?!

        • Andrew A

          Sorry I just noticed this post and an issue with your interpretation of the 4th immediately comes to mind.

          If it is in fact meant for that why then is the feast of tabernacles the only required feast observed in the millennial reign and in fact a requirement punishable by drought if it is not respected?

          • Maggie

            I’m thinking it may be that nations are punished for not observing this important Feast to HaShem because it is the anniversary of our marriage to the Lamb.
            (My theory!) It just came to me right now as I read your comment! So extremely exciting!

            How sweet that our Father is going to give us a permanant “anniversary” to be observed forever! So cute of Him! <3

  • carson

    mans grand plans, except, they forgot God..

    If you study all/any of the prophesies relating to last day’s with a mind to see ‘how man is’, ‘what’s he like’ etc etc..you’ll notice that he doesn’t seem like these grand planners depict the future man..there’s still people working in a field after all! imagine, menkind still has to toil in the dirt and not some robot/clone doing everything for him while he sits in some dark cool home hooked up to his VR machine commanding the clone to do and walk and talk..

    But, sure, if time went on, and things were lovely and prosperous and peaceful and ..whatever..maybe man would achieve some grand (evil, but their blind to that) utopia, but the bible doesn’t show man as living that life in anyway near the scale they talk of (there is a verse about men jumping walls in the last war, zech somewhere..)

    so a few things, what time is it in God’s timeline? does man have the time left to him to achieve this grand cloned life of ease society?

    also, judgements, and what is the abomination-that makes desolate (one rendering), and why would it make desolate? and what effect does that have on mankind?
    so busy looking for fresh water they haven’t the full time to dedicate to achieving their life of grandness apart from God? busy pumping out the water and mud from the last flood while others are digging out from the last earthquake while others are mourning and burying bodies while others are..living a time of tribulation such as has never been seen..
    The 7 seals and 7 trumps..1/4 things then 1/3rd of things, 1/3rd fresh water to wormwood for one, tree’s, green grass..imagine it..it would be devastating, then the 7 vials of wrath=all of a thing, all the water to blood and other things, these vials, man couldn’t survive long under them so probably a shorter time era then the 7 seals/7 trumps, and don’t forget all the wars and street violence and the many other bad things mentioned etc..

    man will never achieve this grand (lie of the devil) utopia of a life of ease while drone/clone bots do all the work and he gets to sip drinks all day and forget the Lord exists, but imagine and plan a vain thing those who forget God will do as they have always done.

    The time maybe shorter then many think, have your name in Christ the Lambs book of life and rejoice always through thick and thin the kingdoms of this world aren’t yours if in Christ

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  • Wow! Have I been naive. I guess that is how it worked in George Orwells “1984”. When I read it for English in -1974 it was pure science fiction. Technology beyond reality. Now Big Brother is in my house and I didn’t even realize I let him in.

    • Joshua Morrow

      It’s called Technocracy. Look it up.

  • Maggie

    The sign of the son of man is to happen in Sept, 2017 during the feast of Tabernacles. Anybody who thinks the Jews are “discarded” or “replaced” by “the church” are wrong. The Father’s heart still seeks out His people and all others who will accept and love Him as He desires (which is written in the law given to Moses, which is the law heaven is giftedness by), which is the whole reason of which ask beings were created for. If you think the “Jewish festivals” in Leviticus were “discarded” because of Calvary, you are wrong and have a wing concept of the Father and His laws. Yeshua died on the cross for your SINS as the penalty for sin IS DEATH. That is what was nailed to the cross! NOT THE LAW AND STATUTES! Just “FYI” to those who are seeking truth and who care to live and worship my Father as He desires. The law was given to show you what sin is, the Holy spirit was sent to you to help you TO LIVE by the law by guiding you Himself as the mind of Yeshua.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Maggie – I will not live under the bondage of “the law” for I have been freed – as the Jewish Apostle Paul wrote to the Galatians in Chapter 5, KJV:
      [16] This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
      [17] For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh:
      and these are contrary the one to the other:
      so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
      [18] But if ye be led of the Spirit,
      ye are not under the law.

      I personally know and believe that I when I accepted “the free gift” of Biblical Salvation I am told in “the word of the LORD”:
      “For by grace are ye saved through faith;
      and that not of yourselves:
      it is the gift of God:
      Not of works,
      lest any man should boast.”
      (Ephesians 2:8-9, KJB)
      .

      • Maggie

        Dear brother, we are ADOPTED into the promises of the our new dad Abraham. Abraham was a Hebrew. That by faith, believing in the salvation that the Messiah came and died for us, you are now a Hebrew and expected to live by the house rules, otherwise you are thrown out because you are a liar and the truth is not in you. You come to LOVE the law and live by it because the MIND OF YESHUA (Jesus) is given unto you to empower you to and fit you to live righteously as the law commands we do, for without the law we would not know what sin is.

        “If he love me, keep my commandments.”
        HaShem (God) said it first, then Yeshua (Jesus) did.

        John 14:15, 15:10
        Prov. 3:2, 4:4, 6:20, 7:1-2
        Lev. 22:31, 26:3
        Ex. 16:28, 20:6
        Deut 5:10, 29
        1 Kings 3:14, 6:12, 9:4,6, 11:38
        2 Kings 17:13
        Neh. 1:9, 13:22
        PS. 89:31, 119:15
        Dan. 9:4
        1 Chronicles 29:19

        Otherwise you’ll hear:

        Luke 13:27
        “But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.”

        Yeshua is talking about what He will say to those who He considers “lawless” which is those who do not obey the commandments.

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Maggie – Apparently you are a follower of ‘the Hebrew Roots’ movement?
          If you think that you can be saved by ‘keeping the law’ – you are in for an eternal regret for your decision.
          The Jew who persecuted “Christians” – but was “converted” and became the Apostle Paul said:
          “Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words,
          subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised,
          and keep the law:
          to whom we gave no such commandment:”
          (Acts 15:5, KJB)

          The Apostle Paul also warns very strongly of those that come with “another gospel” in the book of Galatians.

          By the Grace of “the LORD JEHOVAH” you are not the judge of whether I am Biblically “born again” ~ as it is written in 1 Peter, Chapter 1, KJV:
          [18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold,
          from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
          [19] But with the precious blood of Christ,
          as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
          [20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
          [21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory;
          that your faith and hope might be in God.
          [22] Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren,
          see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
          [23] Being born again,
          not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
          by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

          I know that I have accepted “the free gift” of the complete atonement of my sins by my personal “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” – who is the only man that has ever kept every ‘jot’ and every ‘tittle’ of “the law of God”.
          James wrote in Chapter 2, KJV:
          [7] Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
          [8] If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
          ye do well:
          [9] But if ye have respect to persons,
          ye commit sin,
          and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
          [10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
          and yet offend in one point,
          he is guilty of all.

          My choice it to accept “the free gift” of Biblical Salvation that those that have been given “an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear” have been plainly told in “the word of the LORD”:
          “For by grace are ye saved through faith;
          and that not of yourselves:
          it is the gift of God:
          Not of works,
          lest any man should boast.”
          (Ephesians 2:8-9, KJB)
          .

          • Maggie

            In the Spirit of Isaiah 1:18 by the commandment of HaShem.

            1 Peter 2:21-22:
            You make a good point brother Nicholas about Yeshua saying to do as I do upon the earth.

            Remember Isaiah 30:21 represents the Holy Spirit as our guide as we seek to honor our Farther in all that we do, first by learning.

            Here is the evidence that Jesus kept the feasts. Read it for yourself. Let iron sharpen iron, my friend.

            Luke 2:41, 42
            Matthew 26:17-18
            John 2:23
            John 4:45
            John 5:1
            John 7:10, 14, 37
            Luke 22:15-16

            Don’t be like this: Jer. 6:16

            Or

            Luke 13:27

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Maggie – You have your mind made up, and you apparently are choosing to ‘keep Torah’.

            You are thus choosing to keep every ‘jot’ and ‘tittle’ of “the law of Moses” – for you do not get to ‘pick and choose’ which parts of “the law of God” that you are going to keep – it is ALL or nothing – which you have already broken
            – for there is no Temple for you to worship in.
            – and you do not have a Levitical Priest to offer the sacrifices as prescribed in the Old Testament

            As the half brother and Disciple of “Jesus the Christ” wrote:
            “For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
            and yet offend in one point,
            he is guilty of all.’
            (James 2:10, KJB)

            ==========================================================
            As for me – My choice will always be to accept “the free gift” of Biblical Salvation that those that have been given “an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear” have been plainly told in “the word of the LORD”:
            “For by grace are ye saved through faith;
            and that not of yourselves:
            it is the gift of God:
            Not of works,
            lest any man should boast.”
            (Ephesians 2:8-9, KJB)

            The answer to the question asked over 2,500 years ago is still – NO
            “Can two walk together, except they be agreed?”
            (Amos 3:3, KJB)
            .

          • Maggie

            Dear brother Nick,
            Though your letter is filled with contempt, I couldn’t be happier with your first two paragraphs. Thank you.

            Let me show you why, dear brother:

            I do have a temple dear brother,
            The body is the temple.
            (John 2:19, Mark 14:58, Matthew 26:61,1Corin. 6:19)

            The law shall never pass until all is fulfilled. Yeshua said this himself and it is evident because three feasts in Lev. 23 are yet to be fulfilled. These feasts represent the sanctuary message my friend. (Matthew 5:18)

            I do have a high priest: Yeshua the Victorious! The sinless lamb!
            (Hebrews 3:1, 4:15-16, Dan. 12:1, Rev. 22:11)

            “Torah” is an ancient archery term meaning “to hit the mark”. Paul spoke about it a lot in the New Testament. There is a lot of definitions and languages you have to research in order to understand the word “Torah” so I’ve included a link. Let iron sharpen iron dear brother, please read the article. It shouldn’t take longer than 10 minutes.

            http://www.godward.org/archives/bs%20notes/bible%20study%20notes%20no%20two%20torah.htm

            Thank you for the Isaiah 1:18 experience! Nevertheless, let each be convinced in his own heart. Happy researching! <3

          • Maggie

            I don’t keep the law to be saved, my friend. My delight is in the law! I glory in it because it is righteous! It is beautiful! It is my Father’s honorable and noble heart! It is the law of the heavens! It is the law by which we will all be judged.

            I love my Father, therefore I love Him in a manner that He said He would recognize as love being directed towards Him.

  • dan lloyd

    when they say coming to a theater near you how do they know where I am? Just kidding. May the lord be with you all.

    • If you have a smart device or a car made after 2005, they know exactly where you are.

  • John 17:15… I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. This is Jesus praying to the Father!! I could go on n on all night long about the rapture theory, I could show alot more proof that it’s false than it is true, beginning with the word Rapture doesn’t even Exist in the word of God. But I don’t have the time to sit and argue n that’s not what Jesus would want me to do. But I would enjoy hearing some input from the pre-tribbers concerning this verse,just to see how many ways they might Twist this into making it suit their theory!! Any1 Care to take a shot at it??? I can’t wait. Lol. Maggie is correct in her statement, I get so sick of hearing Scripture Twisted into a fairy tale that I could throw up!! You Pre-Tribbers are going to cause alot of people to give up n lose faith during Tribulation BC of the lies you’ve made up, when Jesus don’t rescue them out then they’ll lose faith n think there is no God BC of the lies they’ve all heard! Which if they would read for themselves n if you would read for yourselves instead of listening to Man then you would all know the truth that there is NO RAPTURE!! I wish that their was myself but nowhere in my bible is it to be found. It’s another one of satains lies to confuse and turn people from GOD!!!!

    • Amber

      I agree! The more I’ve searched Scripture for myself over the past year, and not listened only to the Pre Trib position (which I’ve held to all my life), it is becoming more clear that the Rapture will only happen when Christ comes in all His glory and every eye will behold Him! Then He will separate the Tares from the Wheat. We will then begin to reign with Him in His Millenium Kingdom! So many Scriptures to study. I am praying and seeking truth from the words of Jesus and not to be deceived by any man.

      • Joshua Morrow

        The wedding feast is the first year of the millennium reign.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Michael – Just because you and others deny ‘the Rapture’ does not mean that what you believe is Biblically “the truth”.

      You make the argument that ‘the word Rapture doesn’t even Exist in the word of God’ – The following is an excerpt from an article –
      ‘The term “Rapture” comes from a Latin word, “rapio,” that means “to catch up, to snatch away, or to take out.” It is, in turn, a translation of the Greek word, “harpazo.”
      So, “Rapture” is a Biblical word that comes right out of the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible. The word is found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. In the New American Standard Version, the English phrase, “caught up,” is used. The same phrase is used in the King James and New International Versions.’
      http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_rapture4.php

      Do you also deny the words ‘the Trinity’? – for the word ‘Trinity’ – nor the words ‘the Trinity’ are found written in “the word of the LORD”.

      Do you also deny the existence of the ‘Bible’ or ‘the Holy Bible’? – because the word ‘Bible’ – and the words ‘the Holy Bible’ are also not found written anywhere in “the scripture of truth” “the word of the LORD”, the Holy Bible.

      If you are going to deny one – then you must deny all of the accepted words used in Christianity, of which there are many more – from what I have read.

      If you would be kind enough to say ‘it is my understanding ….’ – then there is the ability to have a meaningful conversation.
      When folks make ‘statements of fact’ – you either agree with most of them – or you are criticized and/or marginalized and/or ostracized for not agreeing with them – often with demeaning and unpleasant words.

      In “the word of the LORD” it is written about what is happening more and more frequently in these increasingly evil, wicked and dark ‘end times’ of ever increasing ‘spiritual confusion and delusion’ in which we are living – RIGHT NOW:
      “Some therefore cried one thing, and some another:
      for the assembly was confused;
      and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together.”
      (Acts 19:32, KJB)

      Those who are truly “born again” believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” are specifically told to:
      “Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
      a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
      rightly dividing the word of truth.
      But shun profane and vain babblings:
      for they will increase unto more ungodliness.”
      (2 Timothy 2:15-16, KJB)

      “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica,
      in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,
      and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
      Therefore many of them believed; …”
      (Acts 17:11-12a, KJB)
      .

      • Maggie

        Dear brother,

        I’ve noticed that we are all speaking of the same events, but calling them different things.

        >>>There are two judgments which is the same as two resurrections.
        >>>One leads to a “rapture” (being “caught up” in the air to meet our savior) [which is still AFTER the tribulation]) which leads to the millennial reign and the judgment of the wicked.
        >>>The second resurrection leads to the second death for the wicked.

        The mystery is solved!

      • Maggie

        Also, we must pass through the tribulation in order to be refined in the fire to become the pure gold, my friend.

        In the Torah, if a man (pretend this is HaShem) becomes jealous of His wife (a believer), He is to take her to the High Priest (Yeshua). The husband let’s down her hair (an intimate thing) and accuses her in front of the entire encampment of what He suspects. The High Priest takes her into a chamber and gives her a bitter cup in which to drink. If she is guilty, her belly swells. [I believe she dies from this painful curse she brought upon herself.]

        Now, reading Revelation, all the waters kill a percentage of men upon the earth from being “made bitter” by an asteroid that falls into the waters….

        … Still think the Old Testament and the laws are to be ignored/discarded/crucified, dear brother?

        HaShem does not change. Neither does His expectations not His laws and punishments.

    • Maggie

      You are correct in what you say, dear brother, but I would certainly ask you to please be careful with what you write down. Go outside and scream and tell before you sit to write because even if you are able to delete your comment, you are unable to modify or delete the effects you have on others. Please speak more gently. HaShem bless thee and keep thee, dear brother!

  • alain humbert

    Brother carson,

    I notice one thing about the devil when he comes bearing gifts
    to his minions, that is those who worship him for favors.

    For sure, they are gifts of power & fame for their own self-gratification.
    But the prince-of-this-world is also a very mean donator who
    is so egomaniacal, that the sight of his own goons flaunting
    their received powers enrages him.

    He craves so much for the direct worship of the masses, but
    cannot yet appear in broad daylight and claim it.
    So until now he has to enjoy vicariously the adulation of his
    proxies he thinks should be exclusively his.

    In one word he is madly envious, and has but hatred for his servants
    who steal his show.

    Is it then any wonder our earthly and earthy dictators invariably have their their highest-ranking thugs executed for “treason”, that is for having stolen part of their glory ?

    Which brings me to your 2 last paragraphs.
    GOD Gave man his intelligence and creativity.
    So the machines built by man are also GOD’S.

    One case in point of the devil’s murderous envy is Lee Hsiao Lung aka Bruce Lee the apostle of violence, who made no bones about his hatred for The “Our Father” Prayer, and who called himself the “little dragon” in defiance to the Bible qualifying the dragon as the devil.

    He acquired (or was given) such devilish speed and power, that no man
    even the top champion, was ever able to beat him.

    But Bruce Lung was becoming the slave of the drugs the devil made compulsory for him to take for body-upholding.
    He suffered akin to the death by a thousand cuts.

    The devil never lets his minions enjoy the fruits of their
    worshiping him.
    He gave them their reward but didn’t let them time to enjoy it.

    So Bruce Lung was cut short by his master with an ignominious death
    at the age of 33 !

    The devil has such a wicked irony.

    Which brings me to the 2 last paragraphs of your post.

    GOD Created man with intelligence and creativity.
    So the machines built by man are therefore also GOD’S.

    Hebrews xi : 3
    Tells of the Creation BY GOD’S WORD

    Hebrews i : 3 and Colossians i : 17
    Go further in Attesting To GOD
    Maintaining His Creation Continuously.

    And Not Letting It running like a mechanic on its own until entropy come.

    With all the formidable tools from his GOD-Given mind, from the lever to the particle-accelerator, man sets about building his successive utopias without ever making any of them last.

    Now, man’s GOD-less walk more often than not accounts for his destroying of what he builds.

    But it’s the devil, the one who seduces man away from GOD to build
    GOD-less utopias who is the one working in man to turn them into brutopias.
    For he cannot suffer to see man succeed even under his infernal leadership.

    GOD SAYS “No Peace for the wicked” Isaiah xlviii : 22

    So the devil, being himself under GOD’S LAW, cannot be in peace even with himself.
    For he is but hatred and lies, so how can he let man enjoy pax, even if it’s “Pax Satanica” ?

    The doctrinal totalitarian regimes of our world offer a good example
    of the devil’s infernal internal torment :
    Those who most zealously out of sincere devotion to the doctrine,
    faithfully serve the oppressive regime are the first marked for
    the permanent purges.
    Why ?
    Because the lie cannot suffer for long the sincerity of those pure-hearted servants who believe the lie to be the truth.

    As much as you cannot serve the Truth with lies,
    neither can you serve the lie with Truth.

    But those who serve the lie with lies
    are the survivors in this world. For a time.

    As our LORD Teaches in Luke xvi : 8

    In conclusion, you echo precisely the ascertainment of the failure of civilization, by an illustrious man of the world, a giant in his time a passionate believer in progress by man on his own, who grandiloquently wrote in his heyday that the “Triangle of Socialism, Law and Knowledge” frames the Revolution that will save the world.

    Of course GOD IS Nowhere in this clever scheme of things.

    And yet the same man one year before his death published his cry of despair “Mind at The End of its Tether” with his mention of an unknown entity he calls “The Antagonist” that destroys everything man accomplishes.

    The man is British writer H.G.Wells.

    And of course THE WORD OF GOD Identifies his “Antagonist” as the Adversary, ha-satan aka the devil.

    One Servant Of GOD writes :
    “We ask GOD for all things to enjoy life to the full.
    “GOD Gives us Full Life to enjoy all things.”

    JESUS-CHRIST IS COME So That we have life and have it
    more abundantly.

    John x : 10

    GOD BLESS you brother.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      alain humbert – Thank you for your explanation of Satanic lies ~ and of Biblical truth.

      It is truly eternally tragic that H.G. Wells and so many others – that willingly choose to not believe “the truth” – as it is personally written to each one that truly “believeth” in “the Word of life”, “the Lord Jesus Christ”:
      [17] Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise,
      and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
      [18] For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee;
      they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
      [19] That thy trust may be in the LORD,
      I have made known to thee this day,
      even to thee.
      [20] Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
      [21] That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth;
      that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?
      (Proverbs 22, KJB)
      .

      • alain humbert

        Brother Bro. Nick Nicholas,

        I have for a long time wanted to read the mentioned
        Wells’ last book, it’s now available online in pdf.

        The reading of it is anything but pleasant.

        The man was infected with the “Free Thought” of his time,
        and ended up hating GOD.

        However, remarkably George Pal the man who brought
        Wells’ “War Of The Worlds” to the screen in 1953 was
        a devout Christian. The final scenes show the victorious
        Martian invaders dead at GOD’S HOUSE doors while The faithful
        are praying inside for a miracle.

        The 2005 version surprisingly retains the “GOD’S Wisdom”
        at the end.

        GOD BLESS you.

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          alain humbert – Brother, I did not know about the ending of the movie ‘War Of The Worlds’ – for I saw it last many years ago – long before I became a believer and follower of my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”.

          You talk about H.G. Wells being infected with the ‘Free Thought’ of his time – how much more tragic that there are so many folks – many that say that they are ‘christians’ who continue to believe the original great and “subtil” olde-olde ‘lie of the Devil’:

          “… Yea, hath God said, …? (Genesis 3:1, KJB)
          .

    • carson

      yeah the devil promises grand things and leaves off telling them the truth, that even those who are ensnared to him, taken captive at his will (2nd timothy 2:26) whom he allows promotion (luke 4:5-6) in this world, he hates, and comes like with anything only to kill steal and destroy and they too would be destroyed by him at whim if he had absolute free reign to do his will, but restrained he is…even this restraint put upon the devil by a loving God benefits those who run after the devil, if they could actually see they’d realize even apart from Christ they enjoy some blessings from God.
      akin to the verses as example of good rains falling on bad people etc..imagine the absence of God on a world only inhabited with people not of God, a world without God and also no restraint upon the devil, why it would be the end of mankind then!

      and what is also written..paraphrase, day’s so bad that unless they were cut short not a soul would live, along with, he who now restrains will do so until he’s taken out of the way..
      The times coming are terrible times for those apart from Christ, hope any would hear and be saved.

  • Mark

    And yet….I see facebook emblems/tatoos All over NTEB! Double standard? Blind leading the blind? Supporting the soon to be beast system?

    Reminds me of JD Farag on youtube spazzing out this past sunday about FB changing policies and making it harder for his churches followers. Ya’ll just don’t get it. Leave the problem, and there is no more problem.

  • Michael

    Amber… That’s the only way you’ll know for certain is from reading for yourself. I’ve believed the rapture my whole life until recently, I got tired of taking other people’s word for it n started reading it myself n figured out that I’ve been Lied to the whole time n was sick over it!! Rapture is totally made up n mans idea bc the bible just plainly does Not teach that concept whatsoever. There’s 4 verses that whole theory is based on, which none of those says that really but man has taken those 4 verses n twisted them to make them out to be as that. There’s alot more ground proof there is not a rapture than proof there is one!! The word rapture is not in the Bible so therefore that says a whole lot in itself. I can’t believe the educated people that are so stubborn n set in their ways that won’t even read their bibles n see that it’s not true n had rather keep Lying to lost souls n deceiving people rather than omit a traditional that they’ve been taught to accept their whole life!! I admitted that I was incorrect n feel much better not believing a Lie n not being foolish like I was brought up to believe. But it’s the Devil and he’s the father of Lies!! Good luck to you in your studies!!

    • Mark

      Sometimes, I almost, almost hope God does leave those behind who do not believe in the rapture.

    • Maggie

      Amen Brother Michael.

  • God Help Us

    You end of world people are more scary than ISIS, I hope you all get the help you need.

  • Sandra Wilson

    My question is if this guy is a Christian, why would he take his children to this movie? Satan has taken over the entertainment industry, all you have to do is pay attention. The worst offender of this satanic movement is Disney. Parents need to wake up and stop following the judas goat!

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Sandra Wilson – Brother Geoffrey writes Biblically sound articles.

      Making no excuse for sin, but he has his faults and errors
      – just as each and every one of us also still have:
      “Order my steps in thy word:
      and let not any iniquity have dominion over me.”
      (Psalm 119:133, KJB)

      You have been brave enough to question why he would take his children to see Satanically inspired ‘eye candy’ – fleshly desirable garbage.
      Question – do you watch TV? How much Satanic ‘eye candy’, fleshly desirable trash is there on ‘the boob tube’?
      By the Grace of “the Lord God Almighty” I had my TV disconnected 2 1/2 years ago – and now do not even want to be anywhere one is on. When I do see TV – I can see a dramatic increase in the perversion of ‘news’, ‘programs’ – but even much more-so, the ‘commercials’.
      Yet – I am also still guilty of sometimes watching things that violate that which was written so long ago in “the scripture of truth”:
      “I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes:
      I hate the work of them that turn aside;
      it shall not cleave to me.”
      (Psalms 101:3, KJB)

      Oh that those of us who are truly “born again” believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” would effectually and fervently and often sincerely pray
      – NOT for us 4 and no more’
      ~ BUT for “all saints” (Ephesians 6:18, KJB) Biblically:
      “And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly;
      and I pray God
      your whole spirit
      and soul
      and body
      be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
      Brethren, pray for us.”
      (1 Thessalonians 5:23-25, KJB)
      .

    • To Sandra Wilson;

      I think if you are an intelligent Christian you can teach children the bible from a science fiction point of view. C.S Lewis was the greatest at it, that’s why the Narnia series was so popular. Besides we could never have discussions like this one were having about end time prophesy. – By the way when we deal with prophesy we are using speculative thoughts to assume the best case scenario. ( That’s the definition of Sci-Fi)

      I think children can have a more better understanding than most adults who flock to churches with the prosperity message.
      Learning the bible with eschatology lessons may be more exciting also gives you an opportunity to teach why apologetics is important.

      People who may disagree may be judgmental towards Christmas & Easter as well by saying lets not celebrate because its pagan, but doing that time of year people are more excepted to receive Christ so my point is take advantage of all the world has. ( If God made it for good but the devil creates evil) by all means we can turn a evil situation to a good one.

  • MARK… I just posted a scripture of Jesus praying to the father NOT to take us OUT OF THIS WORLD but help us overcome the evil!!! Your so called Rapture which DOES NOT EVEN EXIST outside of what some1 has told you, bc it’s NOT IN THE 1611 KJV BIBLE. NOWHERE. your still gonna hold to that MAN MADE THEORY RATHER than the words of our SAVIOUR JESUS??? LOL LOL. well Jesus did warn about holding on to those old TRADITIONS so I guess it is somewhat believable. Just have enough gratitude to please not push that theory on lost people that might accidentally believe you then lose all faith when the tribulation starts and they’re still here looking around n wondering why Jesus didn’t ever come n fly them away,” in that hour of temptation.” That’s not fair to the lost or new Christian either one!! Myself I don’t throw around theories and teach things that I’m not real sure about bc of that reason rite there!! It’s not fair to a lost or new Christian. I’m finished with this subject bc until you people stop believing everything man says and start reading your Bibles like your supposed too, your not gonna change your thoughts on the subject no matter how many verses I show you that totally shoots that theory down, you’ll come rite back with your same 4 verses like always and twist em to suit yourself without ever reading anything other than what you’ve been told to read. Bc if you ever really studied like you need too you would have to admit your wrong or Keep Lying to yourself either one. I know all of this bc I’ve done the same thing myself, then got curious enough that I finally stopped relying on Good Men of God, read it myself and WOW!! Figured out it was all Lies n traditions but mostly the Devil!!! GOD BLESS YOU ALL, hope you’ll find TRUTH at some point in life!!

    • Mark

      Mike. For you to come on here and spew you’re hate against the rapture show’s your true colors. There is much more to support the rapture than just 4 verses. However you thought it brave, courageous, or what to come on a PRE-TRIB site and spout off? I only address you directly to show a little courtesy, however I did not read your entire drivel to me. When hatred against the rapture spews forth, I do not need, nor desire to read the full text.

      To others. My main question is, WHY are “Christians” even on facebook? Even the author of this article sees the evil in FB, yet he participates in it….why? I do neither FB or twitter, I have no use or need for such morally corrupt and Invasive applications.

      • Maggie

        Dear brother,

        I’ve noticed that we are all speaking of the same events, but calling them different things.

        >>>There are two judgments which is the same as two resurrections.
        >>>One leads to a “rapture” (being “caught up” in the air to meet our savior) [which is still AFTER the tribulation]) which leads to the millennial reign and the judgment of the wicked.
        >>>The second resurrection leads to the second death for the wicked.

        The mystery is solved!

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Michael – Have you ever considered that which is written in “the truth”, “the word of the LORD” about your hatred against those of us who have studied “the words of truth” and come to the Biblical understanding that there is indeed ‘the pre-tribulation Rapture’?

      The following are the words which are written in the Holy Bible, KJV:

      “He that saith he is in the light,
      and hateth his brother,
      is in darkness even until now.

      He that loveth his brother abideth in the light,
      and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

      But he that hateth his brother is in darkness,
      and walketh in darkness,
      and knoweth not whither he goeth,
      because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.”
      (1 John 2:9-11, KJB)
      .

      • Maggie

        Dear brother,

        I’ve noticed that we are all speaking of the same events, but calling them different things.

        >>>There are two judgments which is the same as two resurrections.
        >>>One leads to a “rapture” (being “caught up” in the air to meet our savior) [which is still AFTER the tribulation]) which leads to the millennial reign and the judgment of the wicked.
        >>>The second resurrection leads to the second death for the wicked.

        The mystery is solved!

  • Sandra…. Very good point!! I’ve been wondering the same thing myself?? That’s the last place I would take my children is to see something like that!! And this guy knows all about the mind control n such so what’s up with that?? Surely the goodness he knew it was Wrong b4 he even done it. Of course he’s one of the ones pushing pre-tribulation on this site also so I’m not surprised at this one bit!! I’m about to stop reading anything other than Lynn Lisa and the Jewish lady from this site bc this guy is full of it!!! I get mad at most the Junk he writes bc it’s usually full of Lies. One of satans little helpers has made way into NTEB looks like!!!

    • Heather

      I have two questions for you Michael. John sees elders in Revelation 4. They are seen wearing robes of white laiment and they are casting their crowns of gold at the feet of Him who sits on the throne BEFORE the 1st seal is broken. Where did they get these robes of white laiment and these crowns of gold? Wouldn’t they have had to have appeared before the Judgment Seat of Christ to have received these rewards?

      Do you feel an URGENCY to help lead the lost to the Lord Jesus Christ before it’s too late? I see many who hold to a pre tribulation rapture, the Glorious appearing of a Great God and Savior, having this urgency to lead the lost to Christ before it’s too late. Rarely do I see those who are mid and post trib talk of an URGENCY to lead the lost to the Lord before it’s too late. Perhaps they feel since the Church will be hurled into the tribulation, theres plenty of time left for the lost to be saved? Just my observation.

    • Maggie

      You were right to leave when you did. I did not know that there were so many bent on behaving contrary to the scripture and disguising it as holiness. This is the last post I shall make on this forum. Too many fools here.

  • Yes, coming to a neighborhood near everybody… but not AFTER the Rapture; well before! https://zionsgate.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/the-mark-of-the-beast-and-rfid-technology/

    Why do I believe that will be the Last Days scenario? Prayerfully consider this Biblical alternative: https://zionsgate.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/the-day-of-christ-and-the-day-of-the-lord/

  • Tracy

    @Michael,
    With respect, you might be the one who is bringing false doctrine to this forum. In addition, you show a bit of hostility
    in your writing which is a characteristic of many post-trib believers.
    Most on this forum are looking to the blessed hope.
    Titus 2:13 “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.”
    A true Christian has the Holy Spirit living within, and will endure. Man cannot take that away; therefore, maybe we should be stressing salvation in Jesus Christ.

  • kiwiwatcher

    Brothers and sisters

    1 Thess 5:19-21
    “Quench not the Spirit.
    Despise not prophesyings.
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good”

    It has been disappointing to read of the hostilities from fellow man and their vile aspersions.

    2 Peter 2:1 (the whole chapter is a must read)
    “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction”.

    However, I have been warmed by my brothers and sisters in Christ.

    1 Timothy 6:12
    “Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses”.

    Whenever the messenger comes under attack, there is an automatic assumption that the attackers stand on very shaky ground.
    A brother taking children to the movies is not the point raised here but provides a much needed distraction for a heart that’s been severely pricked.
    But fear not, Jesus too, underwent intense scrutiny from groups of nit-pickers when delivering his message.

    Matthew 9:11
    “And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?”

    Nevertheless, I shall soon be meeting with my Saviour in the air. Everyone is welcome as it is an open invitation.

    Acts 16:31
    “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

    However,

    Matthew 13:14
    “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it”

    1 Thess 4:17
    “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

    Revelation 4:4 – here I am represented by the elders. Praise the Lord.
    “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold”.

    Representing the raptured Church, the elders have white raiment and crowns.
    Revelation 3:5
    “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels”

    2 Tim 4:8
    “Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing”

    Nice to see it is “his appearing” – not “His coming” – two distinctive events. Hallelujah.

    Still referring to the same people – the Church which has been removed from earth. God is good.

    Revelation 5:9
    “And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;”

    Interesting to note the church is numbered

    Revelation 5:11
    “And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;”

    The beginning of the tribulation upon earth starts with the opening of the seals.

    Revelation 6:1-2
    “And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
    And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.”

    Those people from earth being slaughtered for their salvation are kept under the altar. ‘Churches’ on earth will be overflowing after the rapture.

    Revelation 6:9-11
    “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
    And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
    And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”
    Ouch!

    Revelation 7: 9-10, shows the number of latter believers from the tribulation to be greater than the number that make up the raptured Church.
    “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
    And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb”.

    Revelation 7:13 shows the latter believers to have no crowns and wear their ‘washed their robes’ – which is in stark contrast to the raptured Church in Rev 4:4
    “And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
    And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb”

    I Corinthians 7:29
    “But this I say, brethren, the time is short:”
    God bless you all

    • Heather

      Amen! Amen! And Amen again! kiwi watcher, wow! It’s all right there in Revelation 4 and Revelation 5 for those who have eyes to see, and ears to hear. I comment often on Revelation 4 and 5 which shows the Church is there.

      You have just showed me something though that I had not seen. In my studies of Revelation 4 through 7, I never noticed a couple things you mentioned.

      You wrote, ” Revelation 7:9-10 shows the number of latter believers from the tribulation to be greater than the number that make up the raptured Church.”

      Oh my goodness, it does!

      Also the 2nd thing you mentioned, “Revelation 7:13 shows the latter believers to have no crowns and wear their “washed robes”, – which is in stark contrast to the raptured Church in Rev 4:4

      I have always seen that they had no crowns, but, can you elaborate your thoughts a bit more on the stark contrast of the washed robes and that of the robes of the raptured Church? The washed robes is what I missed.

      Also notice Revelation 7::9-10 verse comes immediately after the 144,000 were sealed,
      with no other verses in between. Amazing. God’s Word is so awesome!
      Thank you for all you posted! God Bless you.

      • kiwiwatcher

        Apology Heather and thank you.

        First – the crowns are awarded from the Bema seat. As the raptured Church (the Bride) is washed with the Blood of Christ – we will not endure judgement. Rather – we will face the Bema seat, which is for the bestowing of rewards – a crown.

        (Romans 14:10 and 2 Corinthians 5:9 speak of the judgement seat; Greek word – bema. The word comes from the Isthmian Games where a participant would be led to receive a laurel wreath as a symbol of victory. Paul was using the word to mean – reward for your effort)

        Secondly – the ‘washed robes’ shows the state of the believer. Back-sliders, those who have soiled their clothes, defiled their garments.

        Revelation 3:4-5
        “Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

        He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels”

        Enjoy and God bless

        • Tracy

          @kiwiwatcher & Heather,
          Thanks to both of you for your post. Amazing how this all comes together whenever it’s explained so simply.

        • Heather

          Kiwiwatcher, I want you to know, the Lord blessed me through what you showed me yesterday. The washed robes,**amazing!**

          Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that HEAR the words of this prophecy, and keep those things that are written therein: for the time is at hand.

          I see many blessings. 1. Our Blessed Hope of being gathered our Great God and Savior became a reality before the horrible tribulation.
          2.The many people coming out of the great tribulation, which no man could number gets one last chance to enter into the Kingdom of God, though I wish
          they could ALL be saved now.
          3. The comes and snuffs out evil, takes this world back!
          4. Satan gets chained up in the pit and later thrown in the lake of fire!
          5. No more corrupt, evil leaders!
          6. The Lord will rule with justice!

          • Andrew A

            Yes the end of the corruption of sin and the Lords eternal reign when no longer a temple need be erected in New Jerusalem for God is among the people will be a great and Blessed time in the Ages of Ages.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      kiwiwatcher – My only comment to your Biblically sound observations is about –
      ‘It has been disappointing to read of the hostilities from fellow man and their vile aspersions.’
      – It must be remembered that just because a person quotes from “the word of the LORD” – that does not mean that they are truly Christians.
      It is my personal observation that most of the hostility, ‘unpleasant language’, and name calling is by those who do not agree with our Brother Geoffreys’ continued strong stand for the Biblical doctrine of ‘the pre-tribulation Rapture’ – and for those of us that have also come to the same Biblical understanding.

      We are living in the end times when there is an exponential increase of deliberate demonic inspired ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions, and deceit’ – and – ‘verbal semantics’ – about which the Apostle Peter gives very strong WARNING:
      “But there were false prophets also among the people,
      even as there shall be false teachers among you,
      who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,
      even denying the Lord that bought them,
      and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
      And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
      by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
      (2 Peter 2:1-2, KJB)

      My understanding is that I am Biblically called to be a ‘Watchman on the Wall’ in these most perilous evil, wicked, and increasingly dark times:
      [1] Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
      [2] Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land,
      if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
      [3] If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
      [4] Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet,
      and taketh not warning;
      if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
      [5] He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning;
      his blood shall be upon him.
      But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
      [6] But if the watchman see the sword come,
      and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned;
      if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity;
      but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.

      Do you think that it is enjoyable to me personally to be lied about, and to be called names by those that do not like what “thus saith the LORD” truly means?
      I am in no way making myself out to be a Prophet – but the Old Testament Prophets Elijah, Jeremiah, and Hosea, and many more – and all of the Apostles and Disciples of “the Lord Jesus Christ” obeyed and did that which they were called to do by “the Lord God Almighty” – regardless of what any man said.
      The Apostle Paul ‘named names’ – specifically “Hymenaeus and Alexander”
      (1 Timothy 1:20, KJB) and “Alexander the coppersmith” (2 Timothy 4:14, KJB)
      If it is Biblically appropriate, so I must also ‘name names’.
      – After reading the posts and vitriol that ‘Maggie’ writes – it is my Biblical understanding that she is a “false teacher”, and her misquoting of “the word of the LORD” is demonic poison:
      “But though we,
      or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
      let him be accursed.
      As we said before, so say I now again,
      If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,
      let him be accursed.”
      (Galatians 1:8-9, KJB)

      My desire is to have the courage to stand firm and do what I understand I have been told to do – whatever the cost:
      Ҧ Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said,
      We ought to obey God rather than men.”
      (Acts 5:29, KJB)
      .

      • alain humbert

        Brother Bro. Nick Nicholas,

        It’s really interesting to watch the devil quote Scriptures
        for his own purposes.

        And we don’t even need good old Bill’s “Merchant of Venice”
        for that.

        It’s plainly there for all to see in
        Matthew iv : 6
        when he came to tempt our LORD, Whose Replies
        Matthew iv : 4, 7 & 10
        Are Standard Christian’s military instructions for Spiritual Warfare.

        I have always been fascinated by the prince-of-this-world’s
        side of this First face-To-FACE encounter in the desert.

        It Was An Arena With Divinely Set Rules.

        Like Job’s Fight.

        Our LORD Was As Helpless as Job was, or as The Jews in the
        extermination camps : HE Was Exhausted, Weakened In The Extreme
        by The 40-day Fast.

        And Must Now Face the prince of this world.

        1/ The devil effronterily taunted HIM by reminding HIM Of What
        HE Could Do HIMSELF For HIS Immediate Needs.

        JESUS Countered By Ramming down the father of lies’ throat his own suggestion, With A Swift Stroke By The Sword OF THE SPIRIT.

        Deuteronomy viii : 3

        2/ Failing that, the devil upped the temptation ante a notch from self-gratification to self-preservation and self-glorification.

        The WORD OF GOD IS Not Specific on the means the devil used
        to take JESUS to the Temple pinnacle.

        Some people say that it’s only in spirit or by hypnotism.

        I don’t know, but I believe that our LORD Followed The Divine
        Rules Of Engagement By Submitting Himself To Be Carried Physically by the devil through the air to Jerusalem.

        (Of course that the devil was much tempted to drop JESUS
        in mid-air.
        But then his fallen majesty would have been disqualified
        without appeal.
        And since the devil had cheated, GOD’S Angels could Rescue
        JESUS without any complaint from the evil one.)

        This episode shows that The Holy Temple Where GOD WAS WORSHIPED Has never Been restricted area for the devil since he comes and go Before The Presence Of GOD.

        ha-satan’s insolence was raised to a new level when he quoted Holy Scriptures(Psalm xci : 11-12) To Incite JESUS into accomplishing a stunt destined to impress the masses.

        JESUS Countered Not Only By Quietly Quoting Holy Scriptures :

        Exodus xvii : 2 ; Deuteronomy vi : 16

        But Also By Reminding the devil WHOM he is talking TO.

        3/ The prince of this world was now down to his last card,
        and he went for broke, from disrespectful insolence to
        ultimate blasphemy.

        Again he took JESUS Physically through the air to a high mountain.

        Where he can show THE SON OF GOD all the kingdoms of the world he won by ripping off through trickery The First Son Of GOD (Luke iii : 38)

        What the devil made glitter Before The Eyes OF JESUS was for
        THE SON OF GOD To Take and Rule Over.

        One one condition :

        THE SON OF GOD Must worship the devil as GOD.

        It staggers the human mind !

        It’s absolutely incredible that the devil is now telling
        to THE FACE OF GOD what he had nurtured in his heart while
        closest To THE THRONE
        (Isaiah xiv : 14)
        And which had caused his irredeemable fall From Heaven.

        Yet JESUS’ REPLY IS As Divinely Restrained As Possible,
        And At The Same Time As Ultimately FINAL.

        By Reminding again the devil WHOM he’s addressing To,
        And WHO he must worship.

        Exodus xxiii : 25.

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          alain humbert – You made the comment – ‘It’s really interesting to watch the devil quote Scriptures for his own purposes.’
          And in a later comment to ‘Maggie’, a follower of ‘Hebrew Roots’ you say ‘Sister’.

          If you find Biblical fault with my comments – please say so clearly, as I am not a ‘political correct’ person – I prefer plainly spoken clear words, and I know that:
          “Iron sharpeneth iron;
          so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.”
          (Proverbs 27:17, KJB)

          I know that I am a very fallible man – for it is written in “the word of the LORD” about me:
          “And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying,
          This is the way, walk ye in it,
          when ye turn to the right hand,
          and when ye turn to the left.”
          (Isaiah 30:21, KJB)

          “And if any man think that he knoweth any thing,
          he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.”
          (1 Corinthians 8:2, KJB)
          .

          • alain humbert

            Brother Bro. Nick Nicholas,

            If I addressed “Maggie” as “Sister”, it’s out
            of civility,just that.
            She has revealed herself as belonging to the
            Seventh Day Adventist cult.
            From now on, I won’t address her as such.
            For about her “Church”, I know enough to want
            nothing to do with.
            Here in my country we have our share of them.
            —————————————————-
            If I have offended you unwittingly, I apologize.
            It was in no way an insinuation directed at you.

            My post was just for sharing with you what I have
            learnt about the Temptation Story, which had puzzled
            me for so long, and prevented me from converting earlier.
            For I found it difficult to believe that CHRIST Would
            Have Tolerated such blasphemy, while HE Should Have Struck the devil down.
            My reasoning was that “If the devil dared to say with
            impunity such things To You, what wouldn’t he do to me
            if I believe In YOU ?”
            ——————————————————–

            I find no inaccuracy at all in your posts.
            And if I address you as Brother, I mean it.

            GOD BLESS you.

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            alain humbert – I was not/am not offended – but I was not personally clear on your meaning, – thus my desire was for my clarification, which you have provided, and I thank you for your courteous response.
            I also totally concur with your desire to be civil.
            Unfortunately there are too many that call themselves ‘christians’ that use very offensive and non-biblical language.

            I have attempted to post this comment to you for several days – but have been unable because of a ‘providential’ ‘glitch’.

            It is my Biblical understanding – especially on a CHRISTian website – and even more-so during these ‘end times’ of such continuously rapid increases in Biblically Prophesied ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions, and deceit’ – which is often with deliberate ‘verbal semantics’
            – that those few who are truly “born again” believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” – we must increasingly be cautious in the words that we use – for we are given the Biblical examples:
            “Every word of God is pure:
            he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.”
            (Proverbs 30:5, KJN)

            [17] Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise,
            and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
            [18] For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee;
            they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
            [19] That thy trust may be in the LORD,
            I have made known to thee this day,
            even to thee.
            [20] Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
            [21] That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth;
            that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?
            (Proverbs 22:17-21, KJB)
            .

  • Heather

    Matthew 13:10-15King James Version (KJV)

    There has been so much confusion, strife, and misconceptions within the Church, and “outside of the Church” on the subject of the rapture. Bro Nick most truthfully comments on these end times deceptions quite often.
    The weakest argument for mid tribbers, post tribbers, scoffers and trolls, is that the Lord does not come out and directly quote when He will gather His Bride BEFORE the tribulation. Jesus constantly quotes in His word,”For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear” in many different scenarios. For example, see Him saying it over and over to the Churches in Revelation 1-3.
    The word of God was written exactly the way He wanted it to be written, and He has His reasons for the way that it is written. When it comes to the Rapture of His Church, I tend to believe that He gave just enough information for those that would have eyes to SEE and ears to HEAR.

    I do believe that there will be a price to pay, in loss rewards at the Judgment Seat of Christ when it comes to 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Can you imagine the shame and regret thats going to be felt?

    If one pays close attention to the following verses, perhaps we might see a small glimpse of why the word of the Lord does not directly say, “My Church will be raptured before I break the first set seal” but instead it’s a mystery, just like Paul said it was.

    10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

    11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the
    kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

    12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but
    whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

    13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

    14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

    15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

    • Heather

      My apologies for my error. In pasting the verses from Matthew 13:10-15 I failed to go up far enough to pull Matthew 13:10-15 Kings James Version KJV down before I starting making my comments. Maneuverability is a bit difficult on these tablets.

      • James Staten

        Demon games 😉

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    Demon games 😉

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    DOOM COMING SOON! 😯

  • Maggie

    Dear brother Nick,
    Though your letter is filled with contempt, I couldn’t be happier with your first two paragraphs. Thank you.

    Let me show you why, dear brother:

    The law shall never pass until all is fulfilled. Yeshua said this himself and it is evident because three feasts in Lev. 23 are yet to be fulfilled. These feasts represent the sanctuary message my friend. (Matthew 5:18)

    I do have a high priest: Yeshua the Victorious! The sinless lamb!
    (Hebrews 3:1, 4:15-16, Dan. 12:1, Rev. 22:11)

    “Torah” is an ancient archery term meaning “to hit the mark”. Paul spoke about it a lot in the New Testament. There is a lot of definitions and languages you have to research in order to understand the word “Torah” so I’ve included a link. Let iron sharpen iron dear brother, please read the article. It shouldn’t take longer than 10 minutes. Thank you for the Isaiah 1:18 experience!

    http://www.godward.org/archives/bs%20notes/bible%20study%20notes%20no%20two%20torah.htm

    • Collin

      Hi Maggie,

      You said,
      The law shall never pass until all is fulfilled. Yeshua said this himself and it is evident because three feasts in Lev. 23 are yet to be fulfilled.

      So do you believe we should continue to observe these feasts? Whether or not a Christian celebrates the Jewish feast days would be a matter of conscience for the individual Christian. Paul makes this very clear. Let’s read!

      Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
      Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
      Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV)

      Christians are not bound to observe the Jewish feasts the way an Old Testament Jew was, but we should not criticize another believer who does or does not observe these special days and feasts. We should be observing Christ’ work on Calvary and be prepared for His second coming when the last three feasts (Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Tabernacles) will be fulfilled perfectly. However, you have every right to observe these feasts if you choose. Just as I have every right to just focus purely on Christ my redeemer. Paul makes this clear as well in Romans!

      One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
      Romans 14:5 (KJV)

      The only thing I see wrong here, is that, the people who follow Jesus yet continue to observe Jewish traditions have this idea that we “must” or “have” to continue to observe them. As if righteousness somehow comes by the law, or we’re not righteous unless we observe the feasts. We’re saved only by faith in Christ!

      Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
      Galatians 2:16 (KJV)

      While it is not required for Christians to celebrate the Jewish feast days, it is beneficial to study them. Certainly, it could be beneficial to celebrate these days if it leads one to a greater understanding and appreciation for Christ’s death and resurrection and the future promise of His coming. As Christians, if we choose to celebrate these special days, we should put Christ in the center of the celebration, as the One who came to fulfill the prophetic significance of each of them.

      • Maggie

        The problem with your comment Collin, is that Paul was teaching pagans Jewish customs and they were returning to their pagan roots. In the book of Acts the disciples leave teaching the Jews and head for the Gentile nations. You must read theBible keep in context, partiparticularly on this subject because we know “Easter” was a pagan holiday for a pagan deity and Jews did not celebrate this holiday. We also know that Jeremiah 10 is about NOT following pagan holidays like “Christmas”. Again, Paul was teaching the gentiles about the Feasts unto HaShem and how to keep the peace by not allowing others to get under their skin about worshipping HaShem properly. These feasts were so important that Paul and Jesus were keeping the feasts. Please keep that in mind if nothing else. They reveal the dates HaShem has set apart for His Plan of Salvation to unfold upon.

  • Maggie

    Yeshua did not come to destroy the law nor the prophets:

    Matthew 5:17
    “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

    So why does everybody think that Yeshua created a new religion? Why are they calling themselves “Christians”? That is a bogus theory that everybody has bought into.

    The letter “J” never existed until about six hundred years ago. The Bible was written around two thousand years ago. People are losing the true name of the Father and the true name of His Son. But why should that matter?

    Romans 10:13
    “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

    There is lots more to be researched in this area, my friend. I’ve only given you enough to help you in your search. Happy researching!

    • MRH

      Yeshua did not come to destroy the law nor the prophets .. So why does everybody think that Yeshua created a new religion?

      @ Maggie: I’d suggest putting your focus into the church epistles 💡

      Rom 10:4 KJV – For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

      Gal 2:21 KJV – I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

      Gal 3:11, 24 KJV – But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. … Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

      Gal 5:4 KJV – Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

      Eph 2:15 KJV – Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

      Heb 7:12 KJV – For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

      P.S. Since you choose bondage to the obsolete OT law, then maybe you aren’t saved? 😯

      • Maggie

        It is difficult to speak to those who act act as though they know everything.

        So I have a few last questions for you:

        Do you know how to ask of HaShem if these things I speak of are so?
        Do you know the story of Gideon?
        Do you know about the “proverbial fleece”?

      • Maggie

        As believers, we must pass through the tribulation in order to be refined in the fire to become the pure gold, my friend.

        In the Torah, if a man (pretend this is HaShem) becomes jealous of His wife (a believer), He is to take her to the High Priest (Yeshua). The husband let’s down her hair (an intimate thing) and accuses her in front of the entire encampment of what He suspects. The High Priest takes her into a chamber and gives her a bitter cup in which to drink. If she is guilty, her belly swells. [I believe she dies from this painful curse she brought upon herself.]

        Now, reading Revelation, all the waters kill a percentage of men upon the earth from being “made bitter” by an asteroid that falls into the waters….

        … Still think the Old Testament and the laws are to be ignored/discarded/crucified, dear brother?

        HaShem does not change. Neither does His expectations not His laws and punishments.

      • Maggie

        I don’t keep the law to be saved, my friend. My delight is in the law! I glory in it because it is righteous! It is beautiful! It is my Father’s honorable and noble heart! It is the law of the heavens! It is the law by which we will all be judged.

        I love my Father, therefore I love Him in a manner that He said He would recognize as love being directed towards Him.

      • MRH

        It is difficult to speak to those who act act as though they know everything.

        @ Maggie: I merely posted scripture. Do you deny the verses I posted?

        As believers, we must pass through the tribulation in order to be refined in the fire to become the pure gold, my friend

        Prove such nonsense by scripture 💡

        Now, reading Revelation, all the waters kill a percentage of men upon the earth from being “made bitter” by an asteroid that falls into the waters….

        Prove such speculation by scripture 💡

        … Still think the Old Testament and the laws are to be ignored/discarded/crucified, dear brother?

        You have no clue unto how deluded you are 🙁

        HaShem does not change. Neither does His expectations not His laws and punishments.

        God does not change, but conditions do change 😉

        Do you know how to ask of HaShem if these things I speak of are so?
        Do you know the story of Gideon?
        Do you know about the “proverbial fleece”?

        Yes I’ve heard of those things, but what’s your point? And I don’t play Jewish name games 😉

        In the Torah,…

        Sorry I don’t follow Torah, just the bible 🙂

        P.S. You must be of the Hebrew Roots Movement?

        • Maggie

          Thank you for revealing your true nature unto me.

          A man of HaShem does not belittle those He disagrees with.

      • MRH

        I don’t keep the law to be saved, my friend. My delight is in the law! I glory in it because it is righteous! It is beautiful!

        @ Maggie: Why you put yourself back into bondage is far beyond me 🙄

        Rom 8:15 KJV – For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

        Gal 4:3, 9 KJV – Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: … But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

        Gal 5:1 KJV – Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

        Heb 2:15 KJV – And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

        Jas 2:8-12 KJV – If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

        2Pe 2:19 KJV – While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

        • Maggie

          It is difficult to speak to those who act act as though they know everything.

          So I have a few last questions for you:

          Do you know how to ask of HaShem if these things I speak of are so?
          Do you know the story of Gideon?
          Do you know about the “proverbial fleece”?

          • MRH

            As if you don’t consider yourself a know-it-all? And regarding 3 questions, I explained above. Anyway, I’m not a Jew and I don’t do Hebrew name game. I’m English oriented; God, Jesus, bible, etc. I’ve heard of Gideon story, but don’t recall it. And again I ask what’s your point?

          • Maggie

            Thank you again for showing me your real self.

            A man of HaShem never belittles anybody they disagree with.

        • Maggie

          “Spirit of adoption”! Exactly!!

          Dear brother, we are ADOPTED into the promises of the our new dad Abraham. Abraham was a Hebrew. That by faith, believing in the salvation that the Messiah came and died for us, you are now a Hebrew and expected to live by the house rules, otherwise you are thrown out because you are a liar and the truth is not in you. You come to LOVE the law and live by it because the MIND OF YESHUA (Jesus) is given unto you to empower you to and fit you to live righteously as the law commands we do, for without the law we would not know what sin is.

          “If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
          HaShem (God) said it first, then Yeshua (Jesus) did.

          John 14:15, 15:10
          Prov. 3:2, 4:4, 6:20, 7:1-2
          Lev. 22:31, 26:3
          Ex. 16:28, 20:6
          Deut 5:10, 29
          1 Kings 3:14, 6:12, 9:4,6, 11:38
          2 Kings 17:13
          Neh. 1:9, 13:22
          PS. 89:31, 119:15
          Dan. 9:4
          1 Chronicles 29:19

          There is many scripture which day “Be ye holy for I am Holy.” HaShem said this, find the scriptures yourself. See if I lie.
          Now If HaShem commands us to be Holy, the law teaches us what that encompasses. The Holy Spirit’s job is accomplished in you when you can actually DO ALL OF THE LAW – joyfully!!! Then, and only then, are you free from the law and the debt! Because you are one with the law! You are no longer offensive to the law (remember the weird was made flesh).

          Otherwise you’ll hear:

          Luke 13:27
          “But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.”

          Yeshua is talking about what He will say to those who He considers “lawless” which is those who do not obey the commandments.

    • Collin

      Hi Maggie,

      You said,
      Yeshua did not come to destroy the law nor the prophets:

      Of course, your 100% right. He fulfilled the law perfectly! Something nobody could ever do. This is why we follow Him and look to Him, because He was and is and always will be perfect!!! The law was meant to make sin known to us, not to make any flesh righteous!If you continue to justify your self by the law, YOU ARE DOOMED!!! Focus only on Jesus.

      Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
      Romans 3:20 (KJV)

      You said,
      So why does everybody think that Yeshua created a new religion? Why are they calling themselves “Christians”? That is a bogus theory that everybody has bought into.

      A dictionary definition of a Christian would be something similar to “a person professing belief in Jesus as the Christ or in the religion based on the teachings of Jesus.” While this is a good starting point, like many dictionary definitions, it falls somewhat short of really communicating the biblical truth of what it means to be a Christian. The word “Christian” is used three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; 26:28; 1 Peter 4:16). Followers of Jesus Christ were first called “Christians” in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because their behavior, activity, and speech were like Christ. The word “Christian” literally means, “belonging to the party of Christ” or a “follower of Christ.” Christ wanted us to “imitate” Him, therefore, people who did exactly that were known as Christians. In 1 Corinthians 11:1, Paul says to “imitate me as I imitate Christ”. Christ didn’t start a new religion, but a new “relationship”, big difference. And this “theory” is something taught all throughout Scripture.

      You said,
      The letter “J” never existed until about six hundred years ago. The Bible was written around two thousand years ago. People are losing the true name of the Father and the true name of His Son. But why should that matter?

      The name Jesus, is an English spelling and pronunciation of the Greek name, Iesous. Your right, the letter “J” wasn’t used until the 17th century, but this doesn’t change the person of Christ. Whether you call Him Yahweh, Lord, Messiah, Yeshua, Iesous, Jesus Christ, or the great I AM, He knows who is calling out to Him, and it doesn’t change who He is.

      Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
      Hebrews 13:8 (KJV)

      My final thought is, Jesus had a very clear parable based on His teachings and dealing with old Jewish traditions. Let’s read!!!

      And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
      Luke 5:37 (KJV)

      The “new wine” here represents the teaching of Jesus in all its freshness, originality, and power, and the “wine-skins” the men who are to receive from the Master the great principle of his doctrine. Now, the recognized teachers in Israel, termed scribes and rabbis, or doctors of the Law, were wedded to the old interpretation of the Law – were hampered by traditions, sayings of the Fathers, elaborate ritual observances, prejudices, narrowness, bigotry. The vast collection of the Talmud, where wise words on the same page are crowded out with childish sayings, well represents the teaching of these scribes and rabbis. Never would Jesus entrust to these narrow and prejudiced representatives of a worn-out religious school his new, fresh, generous doctrines. It would indeed be pouring new wine into old, decayed, worn-out wine-vessels. The new wine must be deposited in new wine-skins. His doctrine must be entrusted to no rabbi of Israel, fettered by a thousand precedents, hampered by countless prejudices, but to simple unprejudiced men, who would just receive his teaching, and then pass it on pure and unadulterated to other simple, truthful souls – men earnest, loyal, devoted, like his fisher-friends of Gennesaret, or his publican-follower of Capernaum.

      • Maggie

        It is difficult to speak to those who act act as though they know everything.

        So I have a few last questions for you:

        Do you know how to ask of HaShem if these things I speak of are so?
        Do you know the story of Gideon?
        Do you know about the “proverbial fleece”?

        • Heather

          Woman, Collin spoke to you in a very kind way.Your constant repeating and posting of your duplicate sayings only shows that you want to argue.Enough already, no one wants your blinded ideologies pushed onto them.

          • Maggie

            Thank you for revealing your true nature.

            A woman of HaShem never speaks down to those she disagrees with.

          • Heather

            Thank you for revealing your true trolling techniques.Just looking at all your postings from the top of the page to the bottom. Is this an attempt to distract others from the true word of God?

      • Maggie

        Collin,

        Not all of the feasts are fulfilled, So all is not yet fulfilled.

        Do you know what it meant when the disciples found a folded face cloth in the tomb of Yeshua? It is a Hebrew tradition between master’s and servants. The master wads up the napkin and throws it on the table and the servant cleans the table. If the master folds the cloth before he leaves the table, then the servant knows his master is not yet finished but will return to the table shortly.

        The culture is very important to understand both Testaments! So is the law and statutes!

    • MRH

      Yeshua is talking about what He will say to those who He considers “lawless” which is those who do not obey the commandments.

      @ Maggie: You still don’t understand 🙁 The law is no longer the key unto salvation 🙂 We are not saved by following the law now. Not that the law is evil, just no longer required for heaven. So Jesus fulfilled the law, by his final sacrifice. Also iniquity workers are Satan’s children, not Christians whom have sin issues. Consider yourself below 😉

      Judaizers is a term for Christians who insist that Christians must follow the Old Covenant laws . This term is most widely known from its single use in the Greek New Testament (Galatians 2:14)[1] where Paul publicly challenges Peter for compelling gentile converts to Early Christianity to “judaize”,[2] also known as the Incident at Antioch.

      This term also includes groups who claim the necessity of continued obedience to the Law of Moses found in the first five books of the Christian Old Testament,[3] although this is sometimes disputed by members of these groups, notably the Seventh-day Adventist Church, because the term Judaizers is typically used as a pejorative.

      Most Christians believe that much of the Old Covenant has been superseded, while some modern Protestants believe it has been completely abrogated and replaced with the Law of Christ. Thus, “one who has Judaized”, refers to a Christian who has accepted the necessity of adhering to the Mosaic Laws or to specific laws that are believed to be superseded, such as circumcision, Sabbath observance, or observation of the Passover. The ongoing Christian debate over Judaizing began in the lifetime of the apostles, notably at the Council of Jerusalem and the Incident at Antioch, and parallels the ongoing debate about Paul the Apostle and Judaism, Protestant views of the Ten Commandments, and Christian ethics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers

      • Maggie

        Sorry my dear, but I do not see any reason for us to continue our conversation. I have chosen my path, and you have chosen yours.

        Take care, be safe and go in peace. <3

  • kiwiwatcher

    Take heed brothers and sisters

    Proverbs 26: 3-12
    A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool’s back.
    4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
    5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
    6 He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.
    7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.
    8 As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.
    9 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools.
    10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.
    11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
    12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

    • Maggie

      Amen kiwiwatcher.

  • Maggie

    My dearest MRH,

    Your beloved energies are not being spent unnoticed for my sake, dear friend! <3

    I have asked the Father myself if I should observe these feasts and statutes, He verified to me three times that I should obey them; in His last verification He showed me how overjoyed He was for me to obey them.

    I feel only the necessity to implore you to ask Him yourself and set three verifications up for yourself between you and Him.

    Thank you so much for your concern!!!
    I greatly appreciate it, dear friend! <3

    • MRH

      I feel only the necessity to implore you to ask Him yourself and set three verifications up for yourself between you and Him.

      @ Maggie: God does not give me such directives, just scriptural thoughts and such 🙂

      Col 2:13-17, 20-23 KJV – And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. … Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

      God Bless 😀

  • Maggie

    That opens a whole new can of worms, actually.

    I perceive that the law was given by HaShem Himself. Yeshua was given as a light by day and a cloud by night. He is certainly a force to do the only reckoning to be done. (I’m remembering when Yeshua put Himself between the Egyptian army and His People. What a display of His Role in our lives!)

    No need to respond… I’m just sharing my thoughts.

    • Heather

      Maggie, God works differently with different groups. So the conditions can change depending on audience and situation. Just sayin’…

    • MRH

      I’m remembering when Yeshua put Himself between the Egyptian army and His People. What a display of His Role in our lives!

      @ Maggie: That stuff is ancient history according to Paul 😉

      Rom 15:4 KJV – For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

      P.S. The law was given to the Jews to guide them, as the Spirit was not yet available. The Gospels were the transition between the two covenants. We live in the church age now since Pentecost. And the church has no feasts and such OT requirements. Also the ancient Jews only had the prophets and judges. Now we have the Spirit within us to guide us, along with scripture.

      • Maggie

        Let every person be convinced in their own hearts. Peace be with you brethren as you search for truth in scripture. I’m gracefully bowing out of the conversation. Good night! Sweet dreams to all!

        • alain humbert

          Sister Maggie,
          personnally, I would be sorry to see you leave the discussion.
          Your Biblical knowledge teaches us much even when some of us
          like I disagree with you.
          Regarding the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Doctrine, belief in it is not a sine qua non condition for Salvation.
          There are still so many people in far places of the earth who
          believe in JESUS-CHRIST and receive horrible persecution for their Faith.
          They have never been taught the Doctrine, and given no hope
          for escaping the ruthless oppression soon.
          Yet they keep believing and hoping that somehow, JESUS Will Come And Deliver them.
          When The Rapture Comes, Would JESUS Tell them
          ” Sorry, you have to stay, I Cannot Keep you from the Hour “of Trial That Is Coming over the whole inhabited earth, “because you don’t believe in The Rapture.
          “You are on your own.
          “Try to endure to The End to get saved ” ?

          Ref :
          Revelation iii : 10
          And
          Matthew xxiv : 13

          Granted, The Revelation Verse Doesn’t Mention any Rapturing.
          But if the whole earth and its population are to be tried,
          how will The Church, The Bride Of CHRIST, Be Protected ?
          Will She be in a cocoon outside of time and space, but still her on earth ?

          I can only say to my In CHRIST brethren who merely believe In JESUS For their Salvation, and who don’t know anything
          or don’t even believe in The Rapture :
          “Just prepare to be pleasantly surprised.”

          GOD BLESS you sister.

  • Maggie

    Thank you for revealing your true nature.

    A woman of HaShem does not belittle those she disagrees with.

  • Wow what a discussion on this site tonight. I am more overjoyed with the Lord meeting us in the clouds, than ever. I cannot wait for that glorious day. I praise God for our salvation through his son Jesus Christ. May God bless each of us with more wisdom from His Holy Word.

  • Maggie

    My dearest Alain,

    Brother Michael has already explained why understanding “the rapture” is so important.

    If someone is taught that we are to be raptured out without seeing tribulation, when we are going through this horrible event, those people will lose faith in their faith. They will think, “I wasn’t good enough to get out before it got bad”, or ” nobody I know got out. Maybe God doesn’t even exist. ” or “I didn’t get raptured out. I guess I’m just going to throw all of God to the trash and grab a weapon and fight for my own survival. I don’t care about anybody anymore. My reason for being ‘good’ is gone now because heaven doesn’t exist.”

    Misinformation is as bad a killing a person when it comes to this topic and the Bible, my friend! Anybody could directly cause someone to give up on HaShem. This is the most vital information in the world.

  • Maggie

    Thank you for revealing your true nature.

    A man of HaShem never belittles those he disagrees with.

    • Collin

      Hi Maggie,

      It seems you as well have showed your true nature. You have personally pushed your Hebrew roots movement beliefs on everybody in this forum. Again, if you want to observe Jewish feasts and traditions, that’s fine, however we have every right to only focus on Calvary. Your beliefs don’t make you more “saved” than we are! The Ten commandments are moral Law and will always stand. When Jesus gave us what is known as “Christ’s Law” (Mark 12:28-31), He said these were the two greatest commandments, and in keeping these, you keep the original Ten. But the rest of Moses’ law was meant for only the Israelites until the 1st coming of the Messiah, who most rejected! The priestly laws are now void because we don’t need an earthly high priest anymore, Jesus is our new High Priest (Hebrews 4:14-16). By focusing and following Christ, you in turn are focusing and following every Jewish feast, tradition and observance! There is only one name by which men are saved, and it ain’t Moses!

      Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
      Acts 4:12 (KJV)

      • Maggie

        If people are asking questions, should I not answer to the best of my ability?

        I was created human, so I get upset and emotional too because I see so many misconceptions. Why would I not cry for these who have been led astray?

        But I digress. I will not talk to many of you who are offended so easily as to attack me. No. No I won’t anymore.

        Thank you for your contempt filled letter, it has helped me to make up my mind on how to deal with people who oppose the love of scripture.

        I will not be conversing anymore with @BroNickNicholas, @Heather or you @Collin
        because of the several attacks I have endured.

        Rest assured my fellow truth-seekers that I will answer you should you sincerely ask a question directed towards me, if I be able. If not, I will interject no more.

        • Collin

          Hi Maggie,

          You said,
          If people are asking questions, should I not answer to the best of my ability?
          I was created human, so I get upset and emotional too because I see so many misconceptions. Why would I not cry for these who have been led astray?

          Who has been led astray? Us Christians, who simply believe in Jesus and believe that the NT is the same authoritative Word as the OT? I’m not arguing with anybody. I’m simply telling you what Scripture says. It’s ridiculous when someone simply states what God says, and because it disagrees with someone’s belief’s or views, then it’s arguing, or hateful. What misconceptions do you see? Please lay them out for us using Scripture only. As that’s what I have done this entire time.

          You said,
          But I digress. I will not talk to many of you who are offended so easily as to attack me. No. No I won’t anymore.

          Show me where I have personally attacked you please. Again, just because I have shown you Scripture that goes against your beliefs does not mean it’s an attack. Christians are called to point out false doctrine.

          Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
          Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
          If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
          1 Timothy 4:1-2,6 (KJV)

          Paul makes this clear again, if you point out to someone there false doctrine or belief, then you become a good minister to Christ!!! Wow!!!

          You said,
          Thank you for your contempt filled letter, it has helped me to make up my mind on how to deal with people who oppose the love of scripture.

          The fact that I take the time to tell you these things using only Scripture should show you my love for Scripture. You have disregarded every verse given to you from the NT that challenges your views. So I ask you, where is your love for Christ and His apostles who wrote down His word?

          You said,
          Rest assured my fellow truth-seekers that I will answer you should you sincerely ask a question directed towards me, if I be able. If not, I will interject no more.

          I have asked you two very sincere questions out of LOVE! please answer using Scripture. Thanks and God speed!

          1. What misconceptions do you see? Please lay them out for us using Scripture only. As that’s what I have done this entire time.

          2. So I ask you, where is your love for Christ and His apostles who wrote down His word?

  • This sight used to be a really interesting place to learn and exchange ideas, but between Bro. nick, Heather, Maggie etc. it has become as nasty and antagonistic as the atheists are with a Christian. You have ruined the sight with your “know it all” attitudes, constant criticism, and arguing over who interpreted it right or what particular bible passage it came from or which translation it came from. It would be greatly appreciated if you took yourselves elsewhere and left the rest of us to peacefully exchange ideas. Go argue with the atheists. They love to corner a Christian. Since you folks seem to know it all and go on at length about it, perhaps you can save a few should.

    • Maggie

      You need to learn to ignore people sometimes.

      You can’t please everybody Sandy. I only speak to you because this is your first time speaking to me. I will not speak to you again if you take a contemptive attitude again. It is called “mutual respect”.

    • Collin

      Hi Sandy,

      You said,
      You have ruined the sight with your “know it all” attitudes, constant criticism, and arguing over who interpreted it right or what particular bible passage it came from or which translation it came from.

      Who’s arguing? So when I give somebody a piece of Scripture to show them what God says, and that piece of Scripture challenges their beliefs, then it’s arguing? As Christians we are called to do exactly what I have done (1 Timothy 4:1-6). It’s not about me being right, it’s about God being right!!! By disagreeing with any piece of Scripture, you are calling God a liar.

      But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
      Matthew 4:4 (KJV)

      • Heather

        Apparently Sandy would be more comfortable on some utopian site where everyone agrees on the same thing, thus diminishing Gods truth for the sake of unity.

  • Maggie, you are every bit as annoying as Bro. Nick. Go somewhere else and get on your soapbox. You are ruining it for the rest of us. You are as arrogant in your beliefs as the atheist and unless you were born of a virgin, your opinions are nothing more than that, opinions.

    • Maggie

      Thank you for revealing your true nature.

      A woman of HaShem never belittles anyone that she disagrees with.

    • Heather

      @ Sandy I’d like to know under who’s authority it is that you come speaking out in? Since you believe our brethren Bro Nick to be annoying simply because he stands for God’s Word in TRUTH and does not waiver.

      I agree with Collin and the verses he posted. We are not called to be silent when faced with heresies just for the sake of unity.

      https://thompsonnj.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/diminishing-gods-truth-for-the-sake-of-unity/

      One has to wonder what kind of ground ones seed has fallen on when they are against the infallible, inerrant, inspired Word of God KJV King James Version
      As you posted the following comments on June 18 on the article, “Alexis Tsipras quickly forms unexpected alliance between Greece…..”

      Sandy says:

      June 18, 2015 at 7:40 am

      The King James Bible was, in fact, edited by King James. You cannot take any transcription of the Gospel literally. You must pray for enlightenment and understanding of the scripture. You Christians should not be fighting amongst yourselves! We need all of us to collectively pray together for guidance and deliverance from these evil things.

      Sandy says:
      June 18, 2015 at 2:47 pm

      In response to Live4Him…only the KJ text is truthful? All other translations are from satan? What kind of fantasy world do you live in? God’s Word comes in many forms and holds universal truth. Fact is, the KJ version is most inaccurate as it is common knowledge that
      KingJames himself transcribed it to suit his own beliefs. An awful lot of people with pure
      hearts and goos intentions are going to hell if the KJ is the only holy transcription.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Heather – Sister, Please continue to “be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might”!
        About those that are causing confusion and contention – there are many that say that they are ‘christians’ – BUT are not, the Apostle Paul gives warning in 1 Timothy, Chapter 6, KJV:
        [3] If any man teach otherwise,
        and consent not to wholesome words,
        even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ,
        and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
        [4] He is proud,
        knowing nothing,
        but doting about questions and strifes of words,
        whereof cometh envy,
        strife,
        railings,
        evil surmisings,
        [5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds,
        and destitute of the truth,
        supposing that gain is godliness:
        from such withdraw thyself.

        [20]: O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
        avoiding profane and vain babblings,
        and oppositions of science falsely so called:
        [21] Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. …
        .

  • Thank you Heather and Collin and Bro Nick and everyone else who was quoting scripture from the KJV Bible. Maggie you are ignoring the fact that we are “Saved by Grace through Faith” not of works. We do not deserve or can anyone earn salvation. God’s love is agape. We do not deserve or can earn God’s love for us. God is the one who loved us first as we were yet sinners. Sin definition- immoral or impure thought about or against someone, impure word spoken or kind word not spoken, deed done as classified in the 10 commandments, or deed that should should have been done but the sinner ignored the promptings of the Holy Spirit. We are still sinners until the day we die. God wrote his law of holiness and only God could fulfill his law. I don’t know any Christian who intentionally goes out breaking the 10 commandments. If you are under the law, and you break just one, you are guilty of breaking all of them. I know I have impure thoughts at time which if you think of the act you are guilty of actually doing the act. God Bless everyone for there interaction on this site to correct and build up our brothers and sisters in Christ!!

    • Heather

      Bless you sister!

    • Maggie

      My dear, HaShem’s grace put the savior on the cross, bringing each one of us into a relationship with the Father. It is what we do afterwards that keeps us in a relationship with Him. That is what is meant by “works”. You care for people because you love Him, not because it will save you.

      • Earl

        Dear Maggie,

        As a SDA you are aware that based on the study of the prophecy of Daniel 8:14 (the cleansing of the sanctuary), Miller calculated that Jesus would return to earth on October 22, 1844. When Jesus did not appear, Miller’s followers experienced what came to be known as “the great disappointment”. Most became disillusioned and left the movement but a few went back to the scriptures and concluded that the date was correct but they reinterpreted that Jesus return was not intended on this earth but that it was the time when Jesus would begin at that time a special ministry in heaven for his followers. And so the movement was revived.

        I myself am a Baha’i and the Baha’i Faith started in the year 1844 when a young merchant in Iran by the name of the Bab declared the start of a new age. Baha’is are the followers of Baha’u’llah and Baha’u’llah declared to be the return of Christ.

        Since you are a SDA and the year 1844 carries an important date for you and since the Baha’i Faith also started in 1844 and Baha’u’llah did declare Himself to be the return of Christ, I humbly request you to investigate the Baha’i Faith. You can also study the tablet of Baha’u’llah addressed to the Christians in pdf format at: http://www.theknowledgeofgod.com/books/Hath_the_Hour_come.pdf

        Blessings
        Earl

  • alain humbert

    Sister Maggie,
    concerning Mrs. Ellen G. White’s 1888
    “The Great Controversy between Christ and Satan”, I’ve read it in full. And it’s the same old preterist-allegorist’s view of Scripture :
    long, long, long on History and making short work of Biblical Prophecy.

    The SDA adherents today are no longer so blatant in their pinning up
    of TGCBCAS as of old, but the spirit of controversy is still there, not between CHRIST and ha-satan, but between SDA’s teachings And GOD’S WORD.

  • Why is it so difficult for some people to understand that Christ loves his Bride so much that he WILL remove her out of the way before he has HIS WAY with an unbelieving and rebellious generation of vipers, etc!? Does it in any way make sense to leave her in the midst of what is about to take place and watch her get the **** beat out of her to see just how tough his bride can be? Yes many people have died for the cause of Christ in the past and are even today but, when the tribulation begins it will be between the Almighty God and the dwellers of the Dark Side if you will. The church ( Bride) will be in that place spoken of in John 14 beginning in verse one. If you who passionately desire to believe that the church (Bride)is going to be left here to be ripped to shreds your faith is incomplete in recognizing the awesome power and love of the Father toward his church. The time that is quickly approaching has already been declared to be the most horrendous time ever to be recorded on the planet and if anyone thinks that toughing it out is going to be possible even for the fittest they’ve in for a frightful surprise.
    We must pray for Israel as she will be the center of attraction during this imminent battle. Even now are the lines being drawn between Israel and all the enemies that have Israel surrounded.

    • Andrew A

      That is a very true statement on the Love of God.

  • James Buchanan

    Hello,
    I have never posted a comment before, but I have been a viewer of this website for nigh on a year; and I must say that I am rather frustrated with all the comments being made. I’ve grown up on Biblical stories and Proverbs so I have been aware of a good deal of Biblical knowledge. Even so, I have only read a few books of the Bible for myself, and only within the past few months, so I do not consider myself an expert on any subject. However, it is my opinion that many of these comments are harmful rather than helpful. I see an astonishing amount of arrogance, and then that arrogance is justified by scriptures which some people interpret differently than others. I find this saddening, because both sides of this argument seem to use the Holy Word as a weapon against each other rather than against the enemy. It is perfectly within everyone’s means to illustrate a point without hostility. It is especially disappointing when a follower of Christ accuses someone who may or may not be right of being demonic. I say shame on you; for if you are confident that you are right, and the person that you are speaking to has a different view but still follows Christ, then you should treat them as your brethren and explain your view simply and with grace, hoping that their spirit will follow the right path (if it indeed is) by the conviction of your words and the spirit. I am not awfully firm in my opinion on the issue as I do not believe I have studied enough to constitute an accurate view. Seeing as this is the case, I tend to like comment spaces because I have lots of different people’s viewpoints to consider and test. However, it is near impossible to glean anything useful from these comments. They are so full of vitriol (I can almost feel the emotion bleeding out of the words) that finding a helpful opinion to guide me is like searching for an acorn in a pile of burning ash. Also, I could not help but think of the stories Geoffrey has about preaching and handing out tracts that link to this website. What must a fledgling Christian think of these dangerous attitudes? Temper yourselves brethren, speak with grace and humility, lest the ashes of your scorn devour the acorn of someone’s fragile hope. (I think I just made up my own Proverb! 😉

    • Andrew A

      Much truth in what you are saying.

      If you don’t mind I have some advice for you on some books to read since you are just starting out.

      I have found Romans to be a very great book for a person just starting to read more regularly on the bible. It was written by Paul to give advice and guidance to the young church of Rome which had not yet been visited I believe at that time by an apostle. So it contains a lot of advice and a good foundation on most everything a new Christian needs to know concerning the Gospel of Jesus.

      Titus as well as 1s and 2nd timothy cover advice on being a pastor or other church positions in churches and can be helpful to read.

      As far as the Gospels of Jesus (Mathew, Mark Luke and John,) I have always thought of John being a personal favorite as I always enjoyed the Verse from John chapter 1 verse 1.

      Other then that I would say reading the 7 letters of the Church’s in the opening chapters of Revelation is also a very good read but if you are just starting to read more of the bible seriously I would hold of on getting in to deep behind that many have and will go astray and get confused trying to read too much into Revelation. So waiting tell you feel more confident in your relationship with the Holy Spirit would be advised. Hope that helps you with your reading.

  • MRH

    I have never posted a comment before, but I have been a viewer of this website for nigh on a year; and I must say that I am rather frustrated with all the comments being made.

    @ James Buchanan: AMEN 😀 There is so much division and hatred in today’s church that it boggles the mind. And God simply allows the battle to rage onward? Why? Because we are still under holy trial, and we will be judged by our conduct in the holy game. So if we waste time and energy reviling others or whatever sins, well guess what our future rewards will be? 🙁

    Mat 12:34-37 KJV – O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

    Mat 16:27 KJV – For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

    Rom 14:10-13 KJV – But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.

    1Co 3:11-15 KJV – For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    2Co 5:9-12 KJV – Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.

    2Jo 1:8 KJV – Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.

    Rev 22:11-14 KJV – He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    P.S. Jesus and the apostles specifically command that we LOVE not HATE? 😉

  • I couldn’t agree more. This person said gently what I was unable to put into the right words. Thank you. I am glad to know I am not alone in my feelings.

  • Earl

    That the entire planet is one home and one country is a fact. It is inevitable to transition to a world Government. People who are fearful are simply people of little faith! This is the divine plan of God to unite mankind into one nation and no one can stop this plan of God! The scaremongers keep citing the Bible by misinterpreting it. They are the false prophets of our time! Wake up people!! We are the citizens of ONE PLANET. Whether you like it or not, the divine plan is to unite mankind into one world and this WILL HAPPEN! t is inevitably the next stage in the evolution of society. Even before the united States became One nation, similar scaremongers kept voicing their childish fears but look at how much more stronger a United States is. The world will unite into one nation, the choice is ours, whether to embrace it wholeheartedly and work towards the benefit of mankind or become forced to become one nation through wars and disasters!

    • Jimmy

      Earl, If I might ask? Where is your citizenship now?

  • Earl

    Jimmy, I am proud to be an American. To be proud to be an American in no way should hinder the love of the entire earth as our mother earth! It is as if I say I am from Texas and I love Texas but I love America equally if not more. I am a Baha’i and in the Baha’i writings Baha’u’llah mentioned more than a century ago:”That one indeed is a man who, today, dedicateth himself to the service of the entire human race…Blessed and happy is he that ariseth to promote the best interests of the peoples and kindreds of the earth…It is not for him to pride himself who loveth his own country, but rather for him who loveth the whole world. The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens.”

  • Jimmy

    Earl, the reason I asked is because the Apostle Paul tells the Body of Christ that our Citizenship is in Heaven. In truth a Believer in the Lord Jesus is passing through, we are Aliens in this world. It was obvious to me that either your understanding is mistaken or you aren’t a Believer. If I might make a statement. Life’s only question: What will you do with that dead Jew who got up and walked out of that Tomb? Your eternity depends on Him. You and Barbara (Della Street) Hale need a Savior, and it is getting late. My wife and I watch Perry Mason re-runs!!!

  • Earl

    Jimmy,thank you for your response and for your sincere concerns. I believe in Lord Jesus but one thing which everyone will agree on is that there are hundreds of Christian denominations and each one believes to be the only true path to God. Your version of Christianity may consider anyone outside your beliefs to be satanic and non-godly but so will others of other faith equally deny yours! That is the sad situation indeed because we are all the children of One God and He loves us all equally. It is us humans that create division in the name of God. What a sad situation! Apostle Paul is correct that our ultimate citizenship is in Heaven but that doesn’t mean that we cannot create the kingdom of God on earth and try to live in peace and harmony with all the peoples of the earth! My eternal love for you will always be there and though we may never meet each other on a physical plane yet the love of God encompasses all and I love all mankind and you as well irrespective of your nationality, faith, race, culture, ideology. God Bless!

  • Jimmy

    Earl, One can tell by your writing that you have a desire for the world to be if you will at peace, but that’s not going to happen until the Prince of Peace sits on the Throne in Jerusalem. I have read that there are estimated to be somewhere between 35-40,000 different Christian denominations world-wide. It is obvious that we Christians are like anyone else, we can mess it up. The Gospel (Good News) is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. For me that is the best definition in the Scripture of the Good News. I saw a survey this morning that stated Christians in America were at 9% when looking at the world from a Biblical perspective. There is so much in the Holy Scriptures I don’t understand, but there is a lot by the grace of God that I do. Earl, After these short comment exchanges, we may never communicate again? With that said if I might chase a rabbit for a minute of two. There are many people who would tell you that I have been saying for over twenty years it’s either Rapture or Radiation. America is striving against the Lord. Since Roe vs Wade we have aborted 55-60 million babies, but in the last couple of years I have discovered that America years ago started using financial aid as an inducement for countries to start aborting babies if you want our money. We are perhaps responsible for over One Billion abortions world-wide. We have now made the Law of the Land homosexual marriage. In the Book of Jude the Lord makes it quite clear that He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah as an example. In Sept perhaps France and America will carry the paperwork they have been working on to the UN to divide the Land of Israel. Israel is the Apple of God’s Eye. About fifty-five years ago my father told me I would probably live long enough to see all the armies of the world preparing to come against Jerusalem. In the last days Scripture makes it quite clear that Jerusalem is a Cup of Trembling to the whole world, and every nation that comes against will be cut to pieces. These are just touching America’s Sin. Read Jeremiah 50-51, Revelation 17-18 portions of Isaiah 13-18 and Isaiah 47 for starters. The Rabbis have said for centuries that the Hindermost of the nations that is destroyed in Jeremiah 50…is a young nation, she is an end time nation, the last of the great nations. She sits on many waters, she is an immigrant nation with a large Jewish population. Rich beyond measure. The Hammer of the earth, and idiom for the Policeman of the world, she is destroyed in a surprise attack. In One Hour’s Time great riches come to nothing. I must go now..this is the short version. I believe that America is described in these passages, and Judgment is soon to come. Jimmy

  • Earl

    Thank you again Jimmy for your response. I am confident that the Bible is the Word of God and whatever is mentioned has been and will come to pass. In the year 1863, Baha’u’llah, born in Iran, proclaimed to be the One whose coming hath been foretold not only in the Bible as the Return of Christ and the Prince of Peace but also the One whose coming hath been prophesied in all the Holy scriptures of the past. The religion He initiated is what is now called the Baha’i Faith whose World center is in Israel on Mount Carmel. Since His proclamation He was persecuted and banished from Iran to Iraq and later to Constantinople, Adrianople and later Acca in Israel where He spent the remaining days of His life and died in 1892.

    Baha’u’llah wrote: “God is My witness, O people! I am come to you with a Revelation from the Lord, your God, the Lord of your fathers of old. Look not, O people, at the things ye possess. Look rather at the things God hath sent down unto you. This, surely, will be better for you than the whole of creation, could ye but perceive it. Repeat the gaze, O people, and consider the testimony of God and His proof which are in your possession, and compare them unto the Revelation sent down unto you in this Day, that the truth, the infallible truth, may be indubitably manifested unto you. Follow not, O people, the steps of the Evil One; follow ye the Faith of the All-Merciful, and be ye of them that truly believe. What would it profit man, if he were to fail to recognize the Revelation of God? Nothing whatever. To this Mine own Self, the Omnipotent, the Omniscient, the All-Wise, will testify.”

    Among many other writings He also addressed Christians and wrote in His Most Holy Tablet: “O followers of the Son!(referring to Christians) Have ye shut out yourselves from Me by reason of My Name? Wherefore ponder ye not in your hearts? Day and night ye have been calling upon your Lord, the Omnipotent, but when He [Bahá’u’lláh] came from the heaven of eternity in His great glory, ye turned
    aside from him…

    Consider those who rejected the Spirit (Jesus) when He came unto them with manifest dominion. How numerous the Pharisees who had secluded themselves in synagogues in His name, lamenting over their separation from Him, and yet when the
    portals of reunion were flung open…they disbelieved in God, the Exalted, the Mighty. They failed to attain His presence, notwithstanding that His advent had been promised them in the Book of Isaiah as well as in the Books of the Prophets
    and the Messengers. No one from among them turned his face towards the Dayspring of divine bounty except such as were destitute of any power amongst men. And yet, today, every man endowed with power and invested with sovereignty prideth himself on His Name. Moreover, call thou to mind the one who sentenced Jesus to death. He was the most learned of His age in His own country, whilst he who was only a fisherman believed in Him. Take good heed and be of them that observe the warning.

    …We, verily, have come for your sakes, and have borne the misfortunes of the world for your salvation. Flee ye the One Who hath sacrificed His life that ye may be quickened? Fear God, O followers of the Spirit, and walk not in the footsteps
    of every divine [religious leader] that hath gone far astray.

    Do ye imagine that He seeketh His own interests, when He hath, at all times, been threatened by the swords of the enemies; or that He seeketh the vanities of the world, after He hath been imprisoned in the most desolate of cities? Be fair in your judgment and follow not the footsteps of the unjust.

    …Say: We, in truth, have opened unto you the gates of the Kingdom. Will ye bar the doors of your houses in My face? This indeed is naught but a grievous error. He, verily, hath again come down from heaven, even as He came down from it the first time. Beware lest ye dispute that which He proclaimeth, even as the people before you disputed His utterances. Thus instructeth you the True One, could ye but perceive it.”

    I would humbly request you to investigate the claims of Baha’u’llah for yourself. You can also visit http://www.bahai.org for more information.

    Blessings!
    Earl

    • Andrew A

      I know you did not speak to me but I can’t help but look at the part were you said the Bible is the word of God and then talked about Baha’u’llah fulfilling the 2nd coming. The following came to mind.

      Matthew chapter 24 verses 23-27
      23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

      24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

      25 Behold, I have told you before.

      26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

      27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

      I ask you to Compare Jesus warning with the claim of Baha’u’llah. They contradict each other and you must ask who is right? Jesus with what he said here or Baha’u’llah.

      I will not bother you anymore unless you wish me to respond further.

      • Earl

        Andrew,

        Thank you for your response. Yes, the Bible warns of false prophets but it equally also foretells about the second coming. One should be careful not to denounce all claims as those of a false prophet perchance one may loose his chance of recognizing the True one!

        The Bible is filled with warnings to Christians to be on watch for His return:

        Be on guard! Be alert!…keep watch…do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: Watch! (Mark 13:33-37 NIV)

        Be always on the watch…that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man. (Luke 21:36 NIV)

        It is clear “being on alert” or “on the watch” can be attained by removing the veil of wordly knowledge and prejudice and by cultivating a sincere desire to know the truth, and by investigating.

        In one of His parables, Jesus says:

        Be like men who wait for their master’s return from a wedding party, ready to let him in the moment he arrives and knocks. Happy are those servants whom the master finds on the alert when he comes (Luke 12:36-37 NEB)

        Continued in part 2

        • Earl

          What does Jesus mean by “knocks”? It is clear He means when the Redeemer calls you or invites you to His presence, When He asks you to investigate His identity. When someone knocks, the man or woman of the house has the freedom either to open the door or to keep it closed. What does Jesus mean by “let him in”? It is equally clear, He means let Him into your heart, be receptive, be open-minded. When a person knows the voice, he opens the door without fear. If he cannot recognize it, he must investigate the caller. Not responding to Him is the same as rejecting Him. As these verses imply, people’s freedom to choose or reject their Redeemer will not be taken away from them…In the Book of Revelation, which is mainly about the future, especially the return of the Redeemer of our time, Jesus confirms the human freedom to accept Him or reject Him:

          Here I stand knocking at the door;if anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and sit down to supper with him and he with me. To him who is victorious (in opening his heart) I will grant a place on my throne, as I myself was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. Hear, you who have ears to hear, what the Spirit says to the churches! (Revelation 3:20-22 NEB)

          Similarly Baha’u’llah who claims to be the return of the Redeemer does not ask people to simply follow Him without investigating His claims. Baha’u’llah writes:

          “Blessed the insatiate soul who casteth away his selfish desires for love of Me and taketh his place at the banquet table which I have sent down from the heaven of divine bounty…” (TOB p 16)

          Continued in part 3

          • Earl

            Moreover, every sincere Christian should be alert and on the watch and should sincerely investigate the lofty claims of Baha’u’llah whose mission started in 1863. Many Christians say: “How come I have never heard of Baha’u’llah?” The prophecies from the Bible refer to our time:

            “That is the day when I come like a thief! Happy the man who stays awake…” (Revelation 16:16 NEB)

            “I shall come upon you like a thief…” (Revelations 3:3 NEB)

            “…the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night” (I Thessalonians 5:2 NIV)

            Baha’u’llah writes:

            “I beseech God, exalted be His glory, that He may graciously awaken the peoples of the earth.” (GWB page 216)

            The day of the coming of the Lord came secretly and passed secretly, even as a thief does. The sleepers are taken by surprise, unaware of what has happened. If they knew the exact time, secrecy could not be maintained.

            “But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. You must also be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” (Luke 12:39-40 NIV)

            Baha’is believe that as claimed by Baha’u’llah, Jesus did fulfill His promise and did return. But Baha’u’llah asks all those who hear His message not to blindly follow Him but rather to investigate His claims. If they find it to be true, they can join to establish the kingdom of God on earth. If after sincere investigation they they do not find it to be true, that is fine as well for God has given us the gift of free will and moreover God is self-sufficient above the need of any of His creatures.

            Baha’u’llah writes:

            “Immerse yourselves in the ocean of My words, that ye may unravel its secrets, and discover all the pearls of wisdom that lie hid in its depths. Take heed that ye do not vacillate in your determination to embrace the truth of this Cause – a Cause through which the potentialities of the might of God have been revealed, and His sovereignty established. With faces beaming with joy, hasten ye unto Him. This is the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future. Let him that seeketh, attain it; and as to him that refused to seek it – verily, God is self-sufficient, above any need of His creatures.” (Proclamation of Baha’u’llah page 122)

            Continued in part 4

  • alain humbert

    Brothers Jimmy & Earl,

    we sons of Adam, even when justified by JESUS-CHRIST’S BLOOD, cannot help bringing that extra good work to The Finished WORK OF CHRIST.
    Hence so many denominations.

    However :

    “But Thanks be To GOD, WHO Hath Given us
    The Victory Through our LORD JESUS-CHRIST”
    I Corinthians xv : 57

    “I Thank GOD Through JESUS-CHRIST our LORD”
    Romans vii : 25

    “Through our LORD JESUS-CHRIST” That Is Through HIS WOUNDS.
    “For” we “are bought At A Price” I Cor vi : 20
    Re: Isaiah xliv : 22 And Revelation v : 9

    Our LORD Knows us Very Well,
    And Sees clearly what we do and how we do it
    With HIS PURE UNADULTERED DOCTRINE.

    That’s Why HIS PROVISIONS for us

    First, Is To Seal HIS WORD After
    The Completion Of HIS New Testament :

    No Addition
    No Substraction
    (Revelation xii : 18)

    And
    Second, The Simple Justification By Faith IN HIM
    (Romans i : 17, v : 1)

    With The Indispensable Corollary
    Which Is no contradiction But Completion :

    “Shew me thy Faith without thy works and
    I will shew thee my Faith by my works”
    (James ii : 18)

    However in my own opinion, the numerous Denominations which
    teach Salvation By JESUS-CHRIST’S BLOOD ALONE, are useful in
    that they promote healthy and Holy Competition In Bible Study,
    And Missionary Work all over the world, Which Are Always Profitable :

    “All Scripture Is Given BY Inspiration OF GOD,
    and Is Profitable
    for doctrine,
    for reproof,
    for correction,
    for instruction in righteousness.”
    I Timothy iii : 16

    No orthodox Denomination has ever the monopoly On HOLY-SPIRIT-INSPIRED
    Interpretation Of GOD’S WORD, and we must be grateful to the scholarly work by many devout and HOLY-SPIRIT-Inspired GOD’S Servants from across the denominational spectrum.
    And that goes too for many Roman Catholic and Jesuit priests who reverently consult THE WORD OF GOD.

    As our fallen nature is always power-craven, a single institutionalized church leading Christendom, even when Biblically Doctrine-sound will end up like the One in Ephesus (Revelation ii : 1-4) who ruled will all head and no heart.
    And sooner or later, it will put at its head a “Commander of believers” that brooks no differing opinion and declares himself GOD’S Substitute on Earth, as Rome would have succeeded in full, HAD GOD NOT Intervened With The Reformation.
    Or in the words of beloved Pastor Vance Havner
    “theologically as straight as the barrel of a gun,
    “and spiritually as empty as the barrel of a gun.”
    And unfortunately in the world, power comes from the barrel of a gun.

    No, The Only True Church Can Only Be The HOLY-SPIRIT-EMPOWERED Community of Believers across the world, The Bride OF CHRIST.

    Hence the numerous Denominations.

    —————————————————————–
    But even the cults which falsely fly The Flag Of our LORD’S NAME
    and competently quote Holy Scripture to us Christians, with a zeal worthy of a better cause, they are left there BY GOD, to shame us
    HIS lazy children Into Better Study Of HIS WORD, and spur us into :

    “But hallow THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah in your hearts,
    and be ready to return a defense to everyone who requests
    a statement from you about the hope of your faith,
    in meekness and in reverence.”
    (I Peter iii : 15)

    However, what is most to be dreaded and to be wary of,
    are not the false-flag cults which aggressively advertise
    their teachings for all to see.
    They are after all only part of the prince-of-this-world’s
    hammy-fisted tactics as visible as a sore thumb.
    And we know exactly where they stand.

    What is really lethal is that they can serve as a cover for
    the very subtle and stealthy cultic tendencies that creep
    into our seemingly comfortable and safe churches.
    For when we look to the outside at the cults, we may feel secure
    into thinking :
    “Over there if you want. But here you won’t, doctrines of demons !”

    That’s when they the cultic tendencies, sneak undetected from pew
    to pulpit and end up taking control by teaching falsehood to the congregation.
    The lethality of a lie is in inverse proportion to its concentration inside the Truth it poisons.
    That’s the gist of the “devil as a roaring lion” warning in
    I Peter v : 8
    For the predator does roar only after it “gotcha” us.

    The Church after all is made up of believers, who although
    HOLY-SPIRIT-indwelt, are only so at different levels of Surrender.
    The freedom of thought we retain individually in our fallen nature makes us open to the trendy in-things.
    And it’s where the devil is lying in ambush for us with his
    “things of man in which he savoureth”

    Matthew xvi : 23

    This is a staggeringly stark Statement From our LORD,
    For HE COULD As Well Have Said That ha-satan has in mind
    only man’s interests.
    Fallen man that is, whom he has ripped-off since Eden,
    an exploit he callously boasted to No Less Than our
    LORD JESUS-CHRIST HIMSELF (Luke iv : 6)
    And of curse, that he would be much happy to have us, whose interests
    he has at heart, with him for Eternity.
    ——————————————————————-
    Fallen man is at once torn between two contradictory nefarious tendencies, which the devil skilfully fiddles with.

    1/ Our anarchic tendencies, when we twist our GOD-Given Freedom
    into licence, as descibed in Isaiah liii : 6, and Daniel ix : 5

    2/ And our love of idol-worship since the Fall, and most flagrantly exemplified in Exodus xxxii : 1.

    Once securely settled in The Promised Land, the Israelites
    were offered GOD’S GOVERNMENT as a Free People Under GOD.
    But they rejected HIM and clamored for a mortal king instead.
    (I Samuel viii : 4-7)
    So GOD Granted their request And Gave them HIS Best Choice for king.

    And the rest is History.
    ——————————————————————–
    GOD BLESS you brothers.

    • Jimmy

      Alain, Thank you for your reply. Let’s be clear. Without the Holy Spirit, one is not a member of the Body of Christ. Keep Looking Up, Jimmy

      • Earl

        The analogy of the Sun and its reflection in the mirror helps one to understand the relationship of God, the Holy Spirit and Christ. The Sun does not descend physically into the mirror but the rays emanating from the Sun reflect on the mirror and when one looks at the mirror he can say “I can see the Sun inside the mirror” Hence the Sun, the rays of the Sun and the mirror are one yet different. Similarly God is like the Sun whose Holy Spirit emanates from Him and reflects in the perfect mirror Christ. The Christ means the “Anointed One” the Chosen One, One whom God chose to represent the Godhead on earth. The creation is not 6000 years old but as science has shown, it is millions of years old and as long as there has been God (no beginning) there has been creation. Within our own span of written history the very same One God has had many Chosen ones, “Anointed ones” At one time the Holy Spirit shone through Abraham, at another time Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad and for this age Baha’u’llah. These all have been the Chosen ones “Christ” on earth and the Holy Spirit shines through each one of them. In this age the very same Holy Spirit is shining through Baha’u’llah. This knowledge is known by every soul but it has been veiled and polluted by the worldly knowledge. When the veil is lifted, the truth becomes as resplendent as the sun!

        • Jimmy

          Earl, Acts 4:12

        • Andrew A

          Please read John chapter 1 verses 1-18 (kjv).

          1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

          2 The same was in the beginning with God.

          3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

          4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

          5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

          6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

          7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

          8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

          9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

          10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

          11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

          12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

          13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

          14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

          15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

          before me.

          16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

          17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

          18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

    • Earl

      Dear Alain,

      You mention that the numerous Denominations are useful in that they promote healthy and Holy Competition In Bible Study. I find it interesting for you to mention because each denomination believes to be the true path to Christ! There can’t be a healthy competition when each believes to be the True path! Moreover, here in the West, all we are made to learn from childhood is “competition”. In the Faith of God there is no competition. The breakdown of any religion into sects and denominations is only a sign of the fading of that Holy Spirit that was once vibrant centuries ago. Look at Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, all these have fragmented into various denominations each believing to be the true path to God. It is not worthy of humans to bury their heads in the sand and deny all other religions, who like Christians do them same thing by denying others!

      The Truth is relevant. There is Only One Religion of God and that One Religion of God is progressively revealed to mankind piece by piece from age to age through an Anointed One / A Chosen One / A Messiah / A manifestation of God. Each religion is like different chapters of the same Book of God. Each is revealed with the same Authority of One God and that chapter lasts for centuries and with the passage of time, misinterpretation, corruptions creep into the same religion and soon division appears among them and sects and denominations are formed and the true Spirit of Religion is lost. Then the very same One God again renews the very same religion through another Manifestation of God with a new name and new chapter and this process continues till the end that hath no end. All the Manifestations of God such as Moses, Jesus, Baha’u’llah come with the same authority from God, there is no competition among them. They are all One in the sense that they have come not of their own will but the Will of God and the bring forth not their own plan but the plan of God. The very same mistake committed by Evangelical Christians is also being committed by the various denominations of various religions who believe that their religion is the ONLY true path and all others are wrong! It is time to wake up. There is only One Religion and that Religion renews from age to age.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      alain humbert – You call ‘Earl’ ‘Brother’, yet he is a self-acknowledged follower of the Baha’i religion – about Baha’i, one article says –
      ‘The Baha’i faith incorporates many familiar Christian themes, words, and select scriptures into its beliefs, however, the Bible would have to be radically reinterpreted to fit Baha’i theology.
      Baha’is claim that the Bible has been misinterpreted and misunderstood by Christians for thousands of years, and therefore must be reinterpreted through Baha’i, which they believe is the true Christianity.
      Much like Mormonism, Islam and other religions founded by false prophets, Baha’i teaches that they have restored Christianity to its true form.
      Unlike Mormonism and Islam, however, they claim that Baha’u’llah was not just a prophet but the actual Messiah and a fulfillment of the prophesied Second Coming. This belief alone reveals serious flaws in their interpretation of the Bible.
      The prophecies of the Bible that are yet to be fulfilled before Christ returns are simply reinterpreted or ignored to support their belief that the Messiah has already returned.
      A look at other Baha’i beliefs further demonstrates the vast differences between the Baha’i faith and Biblical Christianity.’
      – First paragraph of the article –
      ‘Baha’i Claims to be Compatible with Christianity’
      http://www.contenderministries.org/bahai/beliefs.php

      We are living in the ‘end-of-the-end times’ shortly before “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (aka “the day of the LORD”, “the tribulation”, …) and the coming massive Satanically led ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions, and deceits’ such as this world has never known has already begun!
      There is a very strong WARNING written to those few who are truly “born again” believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”
      It is written in “the scripture of truth” about those who DO NOT believe that “the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” is “the only begotten Son of God”:
      “He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:
      he that believeth not God hath made him a liar;
      because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
      And this is the record,
      that God hath given to us eternal life,
      and this life is in his Son.
      He that hath the Son hath life;
      and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”
      (1 John 5:10-12, KJB)
      .

      • Earl

        Dear Nick, I am hereby sharing a Baha’i prayer. Peace upon you!

        “O Thou kind Lord! Thou hast created all humanity from the same stock. Thou hast decreed that all shall belong to the same household. In Thy Holy Presence they are all Thy servants, and all mankind are sheltered beneath Thy Tabernacle; all have gathered together at Thy Table of Bounty; all are illumined through the light of Thy Providence.

        O God! Thou art kind to all, Thou hast provided for all, dost shelter all, conferrest life upon all. Thou hast endowed each and all with talents and faculties, and all are submerged in the Ocean of Thy Mercy.

        O Thou kind Lord! Unite all. Let the religions agree and make the nations one, so that they may see each other as one family and the whole earth as one home. May they all live together in perfect harmony.

        O God! Raise aloft the banner of the oneness of mankind.

        O God! Establish the Most Great Peace.

        Cement Thou, O God, the hearts together.

        O Thou kind Father, God! Gladden our hearts through the fragrance of Thy love. Brighten our eyes through the Light of Thy Guidance. Delight our ears with the melody of Thy Word, and shelter us all in the Stronghold of Thy Providence.

        Thou art the Mighty and Powerful, Thou art the Forgiving and Thou art the One Who overlooketh the shortcomings of all mankind.”

        ‘Abdu’l-Bahá

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Earl – May what you call blessings return unto you in full measure.

          Please know that “the Lord God Almighty”, “the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy” personally inspired to be written:
          “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise,
          as some men count slackness;
          but is longsuffering to us-ward,
          not willing that any should perish,
          but that all should come to repentance.”
          (2 Peter 3:9, KJB) – also read 1 Timothy 2:4 | Ezekiel 18:30-32 – AND – John 3:16-17, KJV
          .

          • Earl

            Thank you brother Nick, blessings
            Do you remember the words of Jesus? John 5:46: “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
            Baha’u’llah wrote addressing Christians: “…We, in truth, have opened unto you the gates of the Kingdom. Will ye bar the doors of your houses in My face? This indeed is naught but a grievous error. He (Baha’u’llah), verily, hath again come down from heaven, even as He (Jesus) came down from it the first time. Beware lest ye dispute that which He (Baha’ullah) proclaimeth, even as the people before you disputed His (Jesus’s) utterances. Thus instructeth you the True One, could ye but perceive it.”

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Earl – My personal “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” personally said:
            “I am the way,
            the truth,
            and the life:
            no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
            If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
            and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
            (John 14:6-7, KJB)

            I am a believer and follower of “Jesus the Christ” – and only that which has been inspired to be written in “the truth”, which is “the word of the LORD”, the Holy Bible, KJV

            – You continue to “preach any other gospel” – which IS NOT “THE TRUTH” – THUS “let him be accursed.”:

            “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
            Which is not another;
            but there be some that trouble you,
            – and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
            But though we,
            or an angel from heaven,
            – preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
            – let him be accursed.
            As we said before,
            so say I now again,
            – If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,
            – let him be accursed.”
            (Galatians 16-9, KJB)
            .

          • Earl

            Dear brother Nick,

            Have you forgotten how the disciples of Jesus where cursed, beaten and put to death simply for their belief in the true Lord? Have you forgotten all the sufferings that early pagans and Jews committed on Christians for having stood firm in their belief in the Lord Jesus? How they were stoned? How they were martyred for the cause of Jesus? All those pagans and Jews would curse the early Christians using scriptures from the Old Testament the very same way you my brother do so! By the righteousness of God, the Lord is my witness that my love for Jesus and my love for my fellow humans like you is far far greater than the curses you bestow upon me. All I can say is may the Lord Jesus forgive you for any false accusation or your curses and may the love and mercy of the Lord envelop you from all sides.

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Earl – I have uttered no curse against you – I quoted that which is written in “the word of the LORD”.
            You are the one following and teaching ‘another gospel’ that IS NOT that which is found in “the scripture of truth” – for you are a follower of your ‘lord Baha’u’llah’.

            Again – All of your ‘blessings’ and ‘love’ from you and your ‘lord’ are returned unto you – for I cannot – and will not accept them – anymore than I would from a follower of the false gods ‘Allah’ – or ‘Bhudda’ – or – – – – – –
            As it is written in “the word of the LORD”:
            “For there is one God,
            and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
            Who gave himself a ransom for all,
            to be testified in due time.”
            (1 Timothy 2:5-6, KJB)

            It is also written in “the word of the LORD” about what my personal “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” said about being a follower of “the Lord God Almighty”:
            Ҧ No servant can serve two masters:
            for either he will hate the one, and love the other;
            or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
            Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
            (Luke 16:13, KJB)

            To make it absolutely crystal clear – I am a “born again” believer and follower of ONLY my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”!!!
            “We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us;
            – he that is not of God heareth not us.
            Hereby know we the spirit of truth,
            – and the spirit of error.”
            (1 John 4:6, KJB)
            .

          • Earl

            Dear brother Nick,

            My purpose was to share the good news with you and I did. The decision is yours

            “Blessed are those who are invited” Rev. 19:9 NIV

            “Many are invited, but few are chosen” Matt. 22:14 NIV

            “Christians are invited to investigate the evidence for the advent of their promised Redeemer” – Baha’u’llah

            “The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” and let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life” Rev. 22:17 NIV

            “This is the Fountain of living water for all that dwell in the realm of being” – Baha’u’llah

            “The hand of Divine bounty proferreth unto you the Water of life. Hasten and drink your fill. Whoso hath been re-born in this Day, shall never die; Whoso remaineth dead, shall never live.” – Baha’u’llah

            “Seize ye the living waters of immortality in the name of your Lord, the Lord of all names, and drink ye in the remembrance of Him, Who is the Mighty, the Peerless.” – Baha’u’llah

            Blessings of Lord Jesus be upon you my friend!
            Earl

  • Earl

    Dear brothers Jimmy and Andrew,

    Everything about the Bible verses you mention from Acts and John are correct. The problem arises when one narrow-mindedly literally interprets them without understanding the depth of the meaning thereof. It was the same mistake the Jews committed at the time of Jesus and they rejected Him even unto this day!. In John 5:46-48 Jesus said: “Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” In the Book of Isiah the coming of Jesus was prophesied and the Jews were waiting day and night for the coming of Messiah, but when He appeared, they brought forth excuses from their Writings to denounce Him! Do Christians today want to repeat the same mistake? Andrew, I have also answered to your blog of yesterday above

    • Jimmy

      Earl, You are probably aware there is an old saying. Most people will miss Heaven by 12 inches. You can know it in your head, but not believe it in your heart!!!! At this moment, we can say at least someone told you.

      • Earl

        Jimmy, the same goes for you as well but I am sure you are a sincere person and your love for Christ is sincere and so do I love Him as well. The only difference is that I believe He has returned again. I urge you to investigate the Baha’i Faith if you wish. You can do so at bahai dot org
        Blessings
        Earl

        • MRH

          Earl, the JW’s believe Jesus returned in 1914, and there are many other such false claims, plus numerous future date setters. Also The bible clearly tells us that Jesus is coming back bodily from heaven above with all the holy angels, not from earth beneath in some secret fashion 😉

          Mat 24:26-30 KJV – Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

          Act 1:9-11 KJV – And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

          2Th 1:7 KJV – And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

          P.S. The Baha’i Faith is just another new age religion group 😉

          • Earl

            MRH, The Bible also mentions that Christ shall return as a thief in night:

            “That is the day when I come like a thief! Happy the man who stays awake…” (Revelation 16:16 NEB)

            “I shall come upon you like a thief…” (Revelations 3:3 NEB)

            “…the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night” (I Thessalonians 5:2 NIV)

            Abdu’l-Baha mentions:

            “The Jews still await the coming of the Messiah, and pray to God day and night to hasten His advent. When Jesus came they denounced and slew Him, saying: “This is not the One for Whom we wait. Behold, when the Messiah shall come, signs and wonders shall testify that He is in truth the Christ. The Messiah will arise out of an unknown city. He shall sit upon the throne of David, and behold, He shall come with a sword of steel, and with a scepter of iron shall He rule. He shall fulfill the Law of the Prophets. He shall conquer the East and the West, and shall glorify His chosen people the Jews. He shall bring with Him a reign of Peace during which even the animals shall cease to be at enmity with man. For behold, the wolf and the lamb shall drink from the same spring … and all God’s creatures shall be at rest. …”

            Thus the Jews thought and spoke, for they did not understand the Scriptures nor the glorious truths that were contained in them. The letter they knew by heart, but of the life-giving Spirit they understood not a word.”

            The Baha’i Faith is not just another new age religious group. Every religion starts as humble. Even Christianity had its humble beginnings. Please investigate the reality of the Baha’i Faith, if only you will. Blessings Earl

          • MRH

            The Bible also mentions that Christ shall return as a thief in night. .. The Baha’i Faith is not just another new age religious group. Every religion starts as humble. Even Christianity had its humble beginnings. Please investigate the reality of the Baha’i Faith, if only you will.

            Earl, been there done that ages ago. It’s a new age cult, which indoctrinates and traps wandering souls. As long as you remain attached to the cult, your eyes will remain blind unto biblical truths regarding Jesus and his future heavenly return. And also Christianity is not a religion, but rather a relationship situation. Christians are children of God. Regarding ‘thief’ aspect, examine full context 💡

            1Th 5:1-3 KJV – But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

            2Pe 3:10-13 KJV – But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

            P.S. Pray for salvation, and for God to remove the blinders over your eyes. The cult you’re trapped in can’t save your lost soul, but it is the road to hell 🙁

          • Earl

            Dear MRH,

            You mention JW and others (?) who claim an answer to the return of Jesus. I challenge you to find any writings from any one person in history besides Jesus who has proclaimed to be the return of Jesus with such strong authority as Baha’u’llah has made! Among many of His writings Baha’u’llah wrote an epistle addressed to all Christians which so powerfully proclaims His mission that you cannot find any other writing that speaks with such authority! Baha’u’llah writes:

            “This is the Most Holy Tablet sent down from the holy kingdom unto the one who hath set his face towards the Object of the adoration of the world, He Who hath come from the heaven of eternity, invested with transcendent glory

            In the name of the Lord, the Lord of great glory.

            THIS is an Epistle from Our presence unto him whom the veils of names have failed to keep back from God, the Creator of earth and heaven, that his eyes may be cheered in the days of his Lord, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting.

            Say, O followers of the Son! (Refers to Christians) Have ye shut out yourselves from Me by reason of My Name? Wherefore ponder ye not in your hearts? Day and night ye have been calling upon your Lord, the Omnipotent, but when He (Refers to Baha’u’llah) came from the heaven of eternity in His great glory, ye turned aside from Him and remained sunk in heedlessness.

            Consider those (Refers to Jews) who rejected the Spirit (Christ) when He came unto them with manifest dominion. How numerous the Pharisees who had secluded themselves in synagogues in His name, lamenting over their separation from Him, and yet when the portals of reunion were flung open and the divine Luminary shone resplendent from the Dayspring of Beauty, they disbelieved in God, the Exalted, the Mighty. They failed to attain His presence, notwithstanding that His advent had been promised them in the Book of Isaiah as well as in the Books of the Prophets and the Messengers. No one from among them turned his face towards the Dayspring of divine bounty except such as were destitute of any power amongst men. And yet, today, every man endowed with power and invested with sovereignty prideth himself on His Name.

            Moreover, call thou to mind the one who sentenced Jesus to death. He was the most learned of his age in his own country, whilst he who was only a fisherman believed in Him. Take good heed and be of them that observe the warning.

            Consider likewise, how numerous at this time are the monks who have secluded themselves in their churches, calling upon the Spirit, but when He (Refers to Baha’u’llah) appeared through the power of Truth, they failed to draw nigh unto Him and are numbered with those that have gone far astray. Happy are they that have abandoned them and set their faces towards Him Who is the Desire of all that are in the heavens and all that are on the earth.

            They read the Evangel and yet refuse to acknowledge the All-Glorious Lord, notwithstanding that He hath come through the potency of His exalted, His mighty and gracious dominion. We, verily, have come for your sakes, and have borne the misfortunes of the world for your salvation. Flee ye the One Who hath sacrificed His life that ye may be quickened? Fear God, O followers of the Spirit, and walk not in the footsteps of every divine that hath gone far astray. Do ye imagine that He seeketh His own interests, when He hath, at all times, been threatened by the swords of the enemies; or that He seeketh the vanities of the world, after He hath been imprisoned in the most desolate of cities? Be fair in your judgement and follow not the footsteps of the unjust.

            Open the doors of your hearts. He Who is the Spirit verily standeth before them. Wherefore keep ye afar from Him Who hath purposed to draw you nigh unto a Resplendent Spot? Say: We, in truth, have opened unto you the gates of the Kingdom. Will ye bar the doors of your houses in My face? This indeed is naught but a grievous error. He, verily, hath again come down from heaven, even as He came down from it the first time. Beware lest ye dispute that which He proclaimeth, even as the people before you disputed His utterances. Thus instructeth you the True One, could ye but perceive it.”

            If you study the writings of Baha’u’llah you will find such power, authority and majesty that you cannot find in any of the other writings of any other person who may claim to be the return of Christ in this age.

            Blessings,
            Earl

    • Andrew A

      Their is no need to interpret the Statements of Chapter 1 it is ether literal are fully explained in the chapter.

      When John says in the beginning their was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

      He is saying without a doubt the Word is God.

      The Word is later in the chapter shown to be Jesus the Christ, who was the Word born in the flesh.

      He is not a mirror that reflects light he is in fact the Light. All things were made through him. All who call on his name will by Grace be made sons of God. These are all Literal statements. Things John declares so all know Jesus is in fact God.

      Also I know you have responded I thank you for the fact you have responded. The problem is my answer still stands. You must choose between Baha’u’llah and Jesus they contradict each other which means only one of them can be the source of Truth.

      You must ask yourself if you believe Jesus was Crucified died and then came back from the dead. You must ask yourself if you believe this was done in order to be a sacrifice for the sins of mankind so that way we all may have eternal life and be saved from are sin. Then you can ether accept or reject. I pray you accept Jesus.

      I have already accepted Jesus as my Savor and I can not and will not pick another.

      • Earl

        Andrew there is no difference or competition between Jesus and Baha’u’llah. They both are the representatives of God on earth. The Holy Spirit reflected in both Jesus and Baha’u’llah.

        The Bible affirms the reality of one infinite, unknowable, transcendent God. Saint Paul glorifies this Heavenly Father as “dwelling in unapproachable light” where “no man has ever seen or ever can see him” (I Timothy 6:16 NEB). However, Christ in His spiritual nature, is “the image of the invisible God” (Colossians 1:15), “the express image of his person” (Hebrew 1:3). Knowing Him means “beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord” (II Cor. 3:18)

        • Andrew A

          I will close with this as I feel their is nothing more I can say on the mater. I have given you the warning and alerted you to what scripture says I leave the rest between you and God.

          You have an fact uttered verses without understanding their meaning. The Father is unapproachable except through the Son who is in fact Jesus this is stated in John chapter 1 among the verses I quoted. Christ is not an image but the Word given flesh. That means God in the body of a Man. When you see Jesus in his Glory you will see the full Glory of God. As his Flesh is like a Glass Holding the very Essence of God for He is God as stated in verse 1 of John.

          Jesus is more then just a Prophet he is Head Priest of the Church, King of Israel, Savor of mankind and rightful ruler of the Earth.

          Unlike Baha’u’llah who is dead and buried in Acre. Jesus is alive and sits at the right hand of God the Father from which he will come back. This is why Baha’u’llah is false he is dead and thus is not a sinless being for the price of sin is death and its the sign of imperfection. Jesus is alive for death could not keep him. As I said I have my savor he is alive even now he did not hand over his authority to another. After all He is alive and well.

          That is the Gospel of Jesus He came into are world as a man and died for are sins and then came back from the Dead. He is not dead but alive!

          • Earl

            Dear Andrew,

            It hurts my heart to see educated men like you talk in such an unscientific and childlike manner. It is due to such unscientific superstitions that religion is looked down and laughed upon and is often found to be at variance with science. If by saying that Jesus is alive you are referring to “physically alive”, I am sorry to point out that no amount of testimony in any court would justify that Jesus is “physically alive”. The resurrection is symbolic of spiritual revival of the Cause of Christ!

            Physical resurrection itself has no value. The Bible is filled with stories of physical resurrection but they are symbolic. If it were not so Jesus would not say in Luke 9:60: “Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.” Jesus did not mean the physically dead to go and bury the physically dead. He clearly meant let those who are spiritually dead and devoid of the life of the Spirit to be involved in this ritual.

            To a child in the womb of the mother, the womb-world is all that there is and he cannot even imagine the vastness of this life beyond into which he is going to be born into. Similarly to people of “little faith” physical life is all that matters and people believe that by saying that their Redeemer was physically born again, it is a great sign!

            Please think. Don’t be like other closed minded prejudiced people who even until today deny evolution and believe that the earth is only 6000 years old!

            Abdu’l-Baha, the eldest son of Baha’u’llah explains the true meaning of Resurrection of Christ. This is a Baha’i view point and in sharing I do not intend to force you or anyone into believing what I say but I do so out of my love for mankind to be able to receive enlightenment.

            “…the meaning of Christ’s resurrection is as follows: the disciples were troubled and agitated after the martyrdom of Christ. The Reality of Christ, which signifies His teachings, his bounties, his perfections, and his spiritual power, was hidden and concealed for two or three days after his martyrdom, and was not resplendent and manifest. No, rather it was lost; for the believers were few in number and were troubled and agitated. The Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body; and, when after three days the disciples became assured and steadfast, and began to serve the Cause of Christ, and resolved to spread the divine teachings, putting his counsels into practice, and ARISING to serve him,… his religion found life, his teachings and admonitions became evident and visible. In other words, the CAUSE of Christ was like a lifeless body, until the life and bounty of the Holy Spirit surrounded it”

            This symbolic meaning of resurrection is affirmed by the Apostle Paul:

            Buried with him [Jesus] in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. – Col. 2:12

            And again:
            …as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. – Rom. 6:4

            The Cause of Christ, the resurrected body of Christ, was then incorporated into the early Christian eklesia (in-gathering or church). Paul wrote:

            Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. – I Cor. 12:27

            The body of believers, in each Prophetic Dispensation, are the temple, the body of the Manifestation, who, collectively, become the earthly representation of the Manifestation of God

            Blessings
            Earl

        • Andrew A

          I was content to remain silent in trying to talk to you after I last responded, But for the sake of Jesus I can not allow you to marginalize what happened and speak about something you clearly do not understand. I will first show you the Word of God as told by John.

          John is an Apostle, a witness to Jesus and all he did records this.

          John ch 20 verse 24-31 (kjv)
          24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

          25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

          26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

          27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

          28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

          29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

          30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

          31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

          Jesus is still alive. He is not in spirit He is not dead.

          It was not symbolic the Apostles are not liars.

          They did not declare Jesus to be dead but Alive. You can not declare the Bible to be true and the Apostles to speak truth and then deny Jesus is alive in Body. For that declares John and the others who were and are witness to this to be liars.

          For That was their message.

          To Reject Jesus’s resurrection is to Reject God who promised salvation.

          It is To reject everything spoken of by the Prophets of the Old Testament who declared the Messiah would be crucified died and then Resurrected not for his sake but others.

          It is to reject the testimony of the Apostles who are witnesses to this truth about Jesus.

          The Bible says His Body is alive it bares the marks of his execution. He is an everlasting sacrifice for the sins of mankind. He is very much still alive. I will not reject my Lord and I will proclaim the truth of his sacrifice, that Jesus is the Christ, that he Is alive and is the true ruler of the earth for ever and ever.

          Life is through his name Jesus the Christ call on it and You will be saved. No one else is worthy to redeem the souls of mankind.

          • Earl

            Dear Andrew,

            The foundation of both Christianity and the Baha’i Faith is love. As a Baha’i I respect your beliefs and throughout my discussion my purpose was to share my beliefs and views as well. I do not wish our discussions to appear argumentative and if at any time it did, I personally apologize to you.

            I would like to end from the Baha’i writings on “love”

            “Know thou of a certainty that Love is the secret of God’s holy Dispensation, the manifestation of the All-Merciful, the fountain of spiritual outpourings. Love is heaven’s kindly light, the Holy Spirit’s eternal breath that vivifieth the human soul. Love is the cause of God’s revelation unto man, the vital bond inherent, in accordance with the divine creation, in the realities of things. Love is the one means that ensureth true felicity both in this world and the next. Love is the light that guideth in darkness, the living link that uniteth God with man, that assureth the progress of every illumined soul. Love is the most great law that ruleth this mighty and heavenly cycle, the unique power that bindeth together the divers elements of this material world, the supreme magnetic force that directeth the movements of the spheres in the celestial realms. Love revealeth with unfailing and limitless power the mysteries latent in the universe. Love is the spirit of life unto the adorned body of mankind, the establisher of true civilization in this mortal world, and the shedder of imperishable glory upon every high-aiming race and nation.”

            Blessings!
            Earl

  • Earl
    John14:6,7 is where the truth comes out. The Bahai’ teachings do not recognize Jesus Christ as being the way the truth and the life. No One can come unto the Father (GOD) accept through Jesus Christ. He must be recognized as the only Lord and savior. Every knee will soon bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour. HE IS THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, GOOD AND BAD.

    • Earl

      Yes, Dennis. Christ is the way the truth and the life. No one can come unto the Father except through Christ. Baha’is do believe this. The difference is that Baha’is believe He (Christ) has returned again as promised in the Bible. So we do not deny Christ as the only path to God. The very same Christ has once again returned in the form of Baha’u’llah.

      Baha’u’llah writes: “God is My witness, O people! I am come to you with a Revelation from the Lord, your God, the Lord of your fathers of old. Look not, O people, at the things ye possess. Look rather at the things God hath sent down unto you. This, surely, will be better for you than the whole of creation, could ye but perceive it. Repeat the gaze, O people, and consider the testimony of God and His proof which are in your possession, and compare them unto the Revelation sent down unto you in this Day, that the truth, the infallible truth, may be indubitably manifested unto you. Follow not, O people, the steps of the Evil One; follow ye the Faith of the All-Merciful, and be ye of them that truly believe. What would it profit man, if he were to fail to recognize the Revelation of God? Nothing whatever. To this Mine own Self, the Omnipotent, the Omniscient, the All-Wise, will testify.”

      I sincerely and humbly request you to investigate the claims of Baha’u’llah with a heart free from any prejudice.

      Blessings
      Earl

  • Wow, you mean to say that he came back as someone else and only a select few called the Bahai’ recognized it? Well, I guess my belief has been in vain and everyone else is doomed for you know where. Sorry, Earl. I am one of his sheep and He knows me by name. He has not returned yet because the PROPHECIES that are leading up to his return have not yet been fulfilled, but are being at neck-breaking speed today. If you find that difficult to believe just keep your eyes on Israel. The key lies there.

    • Earl

      Dennis, Many Christians say: “How come I have never heard of Baha’u’llah?”
      The prophecies from the Bible refer to our time:

      “That is the day when I come like a thief! Happy the man who stays awake…” (Revelation 16:16 NEB)

      “I shall come upon you like a thief…” (Revelations 3:3 NEB)

      “…the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night” (I Thessalonians 5:2 NIV)

      Baha’u’llah writes:

      “I beseech God, exalted be His glory, that He may graciously awaken the peoples of the earth.” (GWB page 216)

      The day of the coming of the Lord came secretly and passed secretly, even as a thief does. The sleepers are taken by surprise, unaware of what has happened. If they knew the exact time, secrecy could not be maintained.

      “But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. You must also be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” (Luke 12:39-40 NIV)

      I fully empathize with you how difficult it may be for you to acknowledge the return of Christ, but it was the same with the Jews at the time of Jesus. Do you remember how they denied His first coming even though it was prophesied in the Old Testament? Similarly Christ warned in the Bible that His return will be as the coming of a thief in the night.

      The Bible is filled with warnings to Christians to be on watch for His return:

      Be on guard! Be alert!…keep watch…do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: Watch! (Mark 13:33-37 NIV)

      Be always on the watch…that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man. (Luke 21:36 NIV)

      It is clear “being on alert” or “on the watch” can be attained by removing the veil of wordly knowledge and prejudice and by cultivating a sincere desire to know the truth, and by investigating.

      Moreover regarding keeping our eyes on Israel…Yes, The world center of the Baha’i Faith is in Israel and is believed by Baha’is as Holy Land.

      Urge you to sincerely investigate the Baha’i Faith

      Blessings
      Earl

  • I do not believe He snuck in the back door calling himself someone else when he said every eye shall see him when he returns. I must have missed that part. Sorry, Earl. It doesn’t pass the test. False Doctrine.

    • Earl

      Dennis, read the above reply. Moreover, do not judge anything without investigation. What if it may be True?

  • Earl;
    If Christ has already returned as a thief in the night He forgot to steal his bride away because we(the true church ) are still waiting to be swept away into the place he has promised in John 14:1-4. Also at his second coming every eye shall see him. John 3:16 tells us that God includes the WHOLE WORLD and not just the Bahai’ faith and that Jesus rose from the dead and physically walked on the earth, not spiritually as the Bahai believe. He came as Jesus Christ and he will return as Christ not to deceive anyone but to make it perfectly clear as to his identity. I believe in a living saviour who has promised eternal life for me and millions like me who have put their trust in no other. My name is written in the Lamb’s book of life and no one can remove it from there. He has me secure in the grasp of his hands and no one can pluck me from that. You keep asking me to search your writings in this conversation and I have and also have studied the Bahai faith. I also have a friend who has recently been converted from Bahai since she realized that it is a counterfeit. I would suggest you consider doing the same thing before it is too late. Enough said. You will be in my prayers.

    • Earl

      Dennis,
      Thank you for your response and grateful for including me in your prayers. My endeavor to prove the authenticity of the Baha’i Faith to you is only as good as your endeavor to prove the authenticity of Jesus to a Jew who will adamantly deny any proof of Jesus that you may put forth only because of his prejudice and close minded cultural upbringing. Even the presence of the blessed body of Jesus among the Jews 2000 years ago and His miracles were not sufficient to convince them of His authenticity and even to this day they strongly deny Him being the Messiah though His coming was promised to them in the Old Testament! So I do not expect you or anyone to simply believe. The coming of Baha’u’llah was not only for the Baha’is but is open to all mankind to see His Glory with their own eyes, only if they want to see! Indeed at the time of the return of Christ in the form of Baha’u’llah, “every eye” did see Him. Indeed every eye has the ability and the free will to either keep their eyes open in order to see, or simply to keep their eyes shut and to deny seeing Him! God has given this free will to each one of us to choose by either keeping our eyes open or to keep it shut, but in any case all those who remain awake and alert will keep their eyes open and indeed among all those who are alert, “all eyes” did see His coming. You mention that your name is written in the Lamb’s book. I pray so and I am sure that the Love and mercy of the Lord is so all-encompassing that He will have mercy upon us all. Be sure and confident Dennis, that upon our transition from this mortal life, all Truth will be laid bare and I am sure you will see the Glory of Baha’u’llah and be sure that His love is the same love of Jesus and His love will encompass us all. Blessings! Earl

  • Earl

    Dennis,
    Thank you for your response and grateful for including me in your prayers. My endeavor to prove the authenticity of the Baha’i Faith to you is only as good as your endeavor to prove the authenticity of Jesus to a Jew who will adamantly deny any proof of Jesus that you may put forth only because of his prejudice and close minded cultural upbringing. Even the presence of the blessed body of Jesus among the Jews 2000 years ago and His miracles were not sufficient to convince them of His authenticity and even to this day they strongly deny Him being the Messiah though His coming was promised to them in the Old Testament! So I do not expect you or anyone to simply believe. The coming of Baha’u’llah was not only for the Baha’is but is open to all mankind to see His Glory with their own eyes, only if they want to see! Indeed at the time of the return of Christ in the form of Baha’u’llah, “every eye” did see Him. Indeed every eye has the ability and the free will to either keep their eyes open in order to see, or simply to keep their eyes shut and to deny seeing Him! God has given this free will to each one of us to choose by either keeping our eyes open or to keep it shut, but in any case all those who remain awake and alert will keep their eyes open and indeed among all those who are alert, “all eyes” did see His coming. You mention that your name is written in the Lamb’s book. I pray so and I am sure that the Love and mercy of the Lord is so all-encompassing that He will have mercy upon us all. Be sure and confident Dennis, that upon our transition from this mortal life, all Truth will be laid bare and I am sure you will see the Glory of Baha’u’llah and be sure that His love is the same love of Jesus and His love will encompass us all. Blessings! Earl

  • MRH

    Earl says:
    July 13, 2015 at 11:42 pm
    Dear MRH,

    You mention JW and others (?) who claim an answer to the return of Jesus. I challenge you to find any writings from any one person in history besides Jesus who has proclaimed to be the return of Jesus with such strong authority as Baha’u’llah has made!

    Earl: Sorry, but salvation is only obtained by believing the gospel message, not by belonging to any religious organization 😉

    FYI: My primary holy knowledge source is the holy bible, NOT doctrines and fables of men 🙂

    Hint: Baha’i Faith is NOT of God but of Satan, and it will eat your very soul if you continue with the cult 🙁

    • Earl

      Dear MRH,

      I would not like to argue with you. The love of God encompasses all of us and may we all be recipient of His grace and mercy. I will share a Baha’i prayer with you:

      “O Thou compassionate Lord, Thou Who art generous and able! We are servants of Thine sheltered beneath Thy providence. Cast Thy glance of favor upon us. Give light to our eyes, hearing to our ears, and understanding and love to our hearts. Render our souls joyous and happy through Thy glad tidings. O Lord! Point out to us the pathway of Thy kingdom and resuscitate all of us through the breaths of the Holy Spirit. Bestow upon us life everlasting and confer upon us never-ending honor. Unify mankind and illumine the world of humanity. May we all follow Thy pathway, long for Thy good pleasure and seek the mysteries of Thy kingdom. O God! Unite us and connect our hearts with Thy indissoluble bond. Verily, Thou art the Giver, Thou art the Kind One and Thou art the Almighty.”

      ‘Abdu’l-Bahá

      • MRH

        Earl: I understand your love efforts and all, but still the holy facts stand. The Gospel is the only route to salvation. Why? Because one must be born again or of God to enter the holy kingdom. And such is not possible by following religions of any kind. In fact not all church folk are saved, as not all believe the gospel message. And Abdu’l-Bahá may speak great convincing words, but he does not wield the power of God. And he’s certainly not Jesus Christ returned. The latter can easily be proven by scripture. He came from earth, Jesus comes from heaven, where he now resides at Gods right hand. And where he was before he was born a man.

        Jhn 6:38, 62-63 KJV – For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. … What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

        P.S. My wise advice is to depart the Baha’i faith group, and at least delve into the bible. The scriptures alone contain the words of life 😀

        • Earl

          Dear MRH,

          One of the teachings of Baha’i Faith is for every individual Baha’i to study not only the Bible but all the Holy scriptures of the past in order for one to be able to see the oneness and unity in all the world’s religions and to be able to appreciate the progressive nature of God’s revelation. I believe the Bible to be the Word of God and that word can never be wrong and that promise in the Bible hath been fulfilled through Baha’u’llah.
          As you mention, one must be born again to enter the Holy Kingdom. For me, recocognition of Baha’u’llah as the Manifestation of God for this age is being born again just as during the time of Jesus it was for the Jews. Baha’u’llah came from Heaven just as Jesus came from heaven.
          Blessings,
          Earl

          • MRH

            As you mention, one must be born again to enter the Holy Kingdom. For me, recocognition of Baha’u’llah as the Manifestation of God for this age is being born again just as during the time of Jesus it was for the Jews. Baha’u’llah came from Heaven just as Jesus came from heaven.

            Earl: Only those whom obey the Gospel are born again or saved. The Jews were not then nor now born again, except those whom converted/convert to Christianity. The latter is a relationship with God by spiritual seed, not by playing religious games.

            Only Jesus came down from heaven, and as the scripture declare is now back in heaven, awaiting his return to finish the holy task. The rapture of the saints into heaven, and then destruction of the evil empire, and finally to establish his millennial kingdom.

  • alain humbert

    Sorry, Bro. Nick Nicholas.

    I was in fact responding only to Jimmy’s post.

    I was commenting 1st of all about Orthodox Denominations.

    It was only when Earl replied to me with his dithyrambic praise
    for Baha’ullah that I knew he’s a “faithfoul” of this particular anti-Christian cult.

    As I have said before, in my country we have our share of those counterfeits that range from the very outwardly Christian-looking SDA
    to the downright abomination of Baha’i, itself a spawn of accursed “Islam”.

    I was a simple believer unaware of those cults in a country where
    the predominant Christian Brand is Roman Catholicism.

    However, JW, SDA, Baha’i, Theosophy, Mormonism (only one variety called simply “The Church Of Christ” that is next door to The Bible Society !) were also very much present without making much sense to me.

    But after my conversion to the Evangelical Church, GOD Suddenly Made
    available to me Pastor J.K. van Baalen’s 1967″The Chaos Of Cults”
    that helped me see those groups for what they really are.

    Until then I never suspected there’s such a thing as Christian theological litterature, still less read it.

    By the way, “Maggie” is SDA.

    If you have posted on Brother Geoffrey’s earlier article about
    The Charismatic Gifts, you will notice another very “colorfoul”
    troll that goes by the id “In As Much As” which I suspect to
    stand for “I Am A”, and who displays the same confrontational
    arrogance as “Maggie”.

    Brother Bro. Nick Nicholas, once more I apologize for any misunderstanding my earlier post to you left to hint at.

    P.S.
    By the way, I just stumbled upon verse 5 in Isaiah ix, which looks
    to describe the powerful bunch preparing for our world’s coming
    “Covenant with death” and “Agreement with hell”, the powers that
    be look set to strive for with full speed. (Isaiah xxviii : 15)

    GOD Bless you, brother.

    • Earl

      Dear Nick, I do consider you as a brother and I am sharing another Baha’i prayer with you. Blessings!

      “My God, Whom I worship and adore! I bear witness unto Thy unity and Thy oneness, and acknowledge Thy gifts, both in the past and in the present. Thou art the All-Bountiful, the overflowing showers of Whose mercy have rained down upon high and low alike, and the splendors of Whose grace have been shed over both the obedient and the rebellious.

      O God of mercy, before Whose door the quintessence of mercy hath bowed down, and round the sanctuary of Whose Cause loving-kindness, in its inmost spirit, hath circled, we beseech Thee, entreating Thine ancient grace, and seeking Thy present favor, that Thou mayest have mercy upon all who are the manifestations of the world of being, and deny them not the outpourings of Thy grace in Thy days.

      All are but poor and needy, and Thou, verily, art the All-Possessing, the All-Subduing, the All-Powerful.” —Bahá’u’lláh

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        Earl – I appreciate your courtesy
        – HOWEVER, as long as you are a follower of Baha’i
        – I AM NOT you brother – for I know “the truth” – that I am a Biblically “born again” believer and follower of my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” who said personally:
        “Jesus saith unto him,
        I am the way,
        the truth,
        and the life:
        no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
        (John 14:6, KJB)
        .

        • Earl

          Very true brother Nick. Indeed no man cometh unto the Father but by Jesus and truly truly I believe Baha’u’llah to be the return of Jesus so these words are equally true in this age as a Baha’i. Blessings, Earl

          • Bro. Nick Nicholas

            Earl – You DO NOT believe or worship “the Lord Jesus Christ” that is written of in “the word of the LORD”.

            the ‘Baha’u’llah Jesus’ of Baha’i / and the ‘Jesus’ of Mormonism’ / and the ‘Jesus’ of Mohammedanism / and the ‘Jesus’ of Catholicism are all false – for “the Lord Jesus Christ” said personally:
            “I am the way,
            the truth,
            and the life:
            no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
            (John 14:6, KJB)

            As my “Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” personally warned:
            ¶ Enter ye in at the strait gate:
            for wide is the gate,
            and broad is the way,
            that leadeth to destruction,
            and many there be which go in thereat:
            Because strait is the gate,
            and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life,
            and few there be that find it.”
            (Matthew 7:13-14, KJB)
            .

  • alain humbert

    Brother Bro. Nick Nicholas,
    No problem at all.
    I consider you a brother in CHRIST, that’s why I am very keen to apologize for any misunderstanding my post could give rise to.

    With some posters however, once clearly id’ed as to real appartenance
    & true purpose, the padded gloves come off and the spiritual steel knuckles come on.

    The phenomenon of anti-Christian trolls(in the Andersen Tales
    sense) crisscrossing a Christian site like as many hell’s bikers do,
    is rather new, but hardly surprising given the Last Times we
    are living in.

    On the other hand, it’s also very interesting, and a great opportunity to present THE TRUTH to those troublemakers who invade One of our LORD’S GOOD NEWS Sites.

    For JESUS’ Church Is Not a secret esoterical society, and we are
    not “Domini Canes” bloodhounds looking for spies to eradicate.
    The Church is First Of All A Rescue Ship For the lost, and those mischievous ones are clearly lost.

    And by the way, Brother Nick Nicholas, I don’t think the glitch
    to your computer is a purely technical one.
    The prince-of-this-world is also in the tiniest mean businesses of micro-sabotage when he sees something he dislikes !

    GOD BLESS you , Brother.

  • Satan takes on many deceiving characteristics. God’s word tells us to be aware of false teachings and that even the elect could be deceived. I can only say that Jesus is the one whom I have been taught to give praise, honor, and glory to. The one with the name of “Jesus” is who gave his life for me by the shedding of his blood as a token to cover all my sins-past, present, and future, suffered, died, rose again the third day, was physically seen by over 500 people before ascending into heaven, and promised to return as “Jesus” to set things straight at the end of the tribulation. He also said he would come as a thief in the night to steal away his bride(the church)before that great and terrible day(of the Lord). He could not have already returned for either event. because the bride is still here and the Tribulation has not quite yet begun. The name “Baha’u’llah’ IS NOT spoken of God’s Holy Word. If your belief is that Jesus has already returned as this Baha’u’llah character my belief is that you are one of millions who Satan has deceived. He also comes as a thief but destroy as many souls as he has time to destroy and to decieve.

    • Earl

      Dear Dennis, The Bible provides the test to know if Baha’u’llah is from God. It says “By their fruits you shall know them”.

      In Matthew 7:15-20 it says: “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

      Now read the Writings of Baha’u’llah: “Be generous in prosperity, and thankful in adversity. Be worthy of the trust of thy neighbor, and look upon him with a bright and friendly face. Be a treasure to the poor, an admonisher to the rich, an answerer of the cry of the needy, a preserver of the sanctity of thy pledge. Be fair in thy judgment, and guarded in thy speech. Be unjust to no man, and show all meekness to all men. Be as a lamp unto them that walk in darkness, a joy to the sorrowful, a sea for the thirsty, a haven for the distressed, an upholder and defender of the victim of oppression. Let integrity and uprightness distinguish all thine acts. Be a home for the stranger, a balm to the suffering, a tower of strength for the fugitive. Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light unto the feet of the erring. Be an ornament to the countenance of truth, a crown to the brow of fidelity, a pillar of the temple of righteousness, a breath of life to the body of mankind, an ensign of the hosts of justice, a luminary above the horizon of virtue, a dew to the soil of the human heart, an ark on the ocean of knowledge, a sun in the heaven of bounty, a gem on the diadem of wisdom, a shining light in the firmament of thy generation, a fruit upon the tree of humility.”

      Be fair in your judgement Dennis. If you study the Writings of Baha’u’llah with a heart free from prejudice, you will see the good fruit and the Light of God.

      Be fair, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a Moslem. If you were born in India you would be a Hindu or Buddhist. If you were born in Israel you would be a Jew. Speak to a prejudiced Jew, or a Moslem, or a Hindu and each one of them will bring forth similar close minded excuses like you to prove theirs is the Only true religion! Why don’t you see the picture?

      Let me quote to you from various scriptures:

      Buddhism (Dhammapada 20:274): “This is the path. There is no other that leads to vision”

      Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita 18:66): “Abandoning all duties, come to Me alone for shelter”

      Islam (Imam Ali Hadith): “Whoso seeks guidance elsewhere, God will lead him astray”

      Do you see how every follower of different religions believe to be the ONLY way to God? The fact is they are all the path to One God at different age.

      However every religion never indicates to be the end but rather prepares the way for the coming of yet another Messiah

      Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita 4:7-8): “Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and a rise of unrighteousness, then I send forth Myself, for the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked and for the establishment of righteousness, I come into being from age to age”

      Buddhism (Mahaparinibbana Sutta): “I am not the first Buddha who came upon the earth nor shall I be the last. In due time another Buddha will arise”

      Jesus (Matt 5:17): “Think not that have come to destroy the law of the prophets: I have come not to destroy but to fulfill.”

      Judaism (Mic 5:2): “But thou, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall H come forth unto Me that is to be the ruler in Israel; Whose goings forth have been fro of old, and from everlasting.”

      Islam (Quran 35:22): “Verily We have sent thee with the truth. A comforter and a warner, and there is not a people but a warner hath not passed among them”

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Dennis – We are living in the ‘end-of-the-end times’ shortly before “the day of the LORD” — and there is an exponential increase of Satanically led ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions, deceits, and verbal semantics’ which are meant to destroy all faith in “the Lord Jesus Christ”.

      I do earnestly Pray that you will to continue standing strong ONLY UPON that which is written in “the word of the LORD”:
      [17] Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise,
      and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
      [18] For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee;
      they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
      ~ [19] That thy trust may be in the LORD,
      I have made known to thee this day,
      even to thee.
      [20] Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge, [21] That I might make thee know THE CERTAINTY OF THE WORDS OF TRUTH;
      that thou mightest answer THE WORDS OF TRUTH to them that send unto thee?
      (Proverbs 22:17-21, KJB)

      Earl is preaching ‘another gospel’ using “subtilty” and the wisdom of man – and there is very strong Biblical WARNING written about him and ALL OTHERS that do so:
      “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
      Which is not another;
      but there be some that trouble you,
      – and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
      But though we,
      or an angel from heaven,
      – preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
      – let him be accursed.
      As we said before,
      so say I now again,
      – If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,
      – let him be accursed.”
      (Galatians 16-9, KJB)

      ~ CAPITALization and emphasis of “the word of the LORD” is mine – Bro. Nick

      • Earl

        My purpose was to share the good news with all of you and I did. The decision is yours

        “Blessed are those who are invited” Rev. 19:9 NIV

        “Many are invited, but few are chosen” Matt. 22:14 NIV

        “Christians are invited to investigate the evidence for the advent of their promised Redeemer” – Baha’u’llah

        “The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” and let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life” Rev. 22:17 NIV

        “This is the Fountain of living water for all that dwell in the realm of being” – Baha’u’llah

        “The hand of Divine bounty proferreth unto you the Water of life. Hasten and drink your fill. Whoso hath been re-born in this Day, shall never die; Whoso remaineth dead, shall never live.” – Baha’u’llah

        “Seize ye the living waters of immortality in the name of your Lord, the Lord of all names, and drink ye in the remembrance of Him, Who is the Mighty, the Peerless.” – Baha’u’llah

        Blessings of Lord Jesus be upon you my friend!
        Earl

        • Bro. Nick Nicholas

          Earl – your ‘good news’ is a Satanic deception.

          It is your choice – to accept – or to join the ‘in crowd’, and reject the “free gift” of Biblical Salvation which is ONLY by “Jesus the Christ”:

          [8] But what saith it?
          The word is nigh thee,
          even in thy mouth,
          and in thy heart:
          that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
          [9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
          and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
          [10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness;
          and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
          [11] For the scripture saith,
          Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
          [12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
          for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
          [13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
          (Romans 10:8-13, KJB)

          There are very strong WARNINGS written in “the word of the LORD” about those who continue in deliberate denial of “the truth”:

          “For the time will come when
          – they WILL NOT ENDURE sound doctrine;
          – but after their OWN LUSTS shall they heap to themselves teachers, having ITCHING EARS;
          – And they shall TURN AWAY their ears from the truth,
          – and shall be turned unto FABLES.”
          (2 Timothy 4:3-4, KJB)

          – “And many FALSE PROPHETS shall rise,
          – and shall DECEIVE many.
          – And because INIQUITY shall abound,
          – the love of many shall WAX COLD.”
          (Matthew 24:11-12, KJB)

          – “And with all DECEIVABLENESS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS in them that PERISH;
          – because they RECEIVED NOT
          the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
          – And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION,
          – that they should believe A LIE:
          – That they all might be DAMNED who BELIEVED NOT the truth,
          – but had pleasure in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.”
          (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, KJB)

          “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
          – that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM the faith,
          – giving heed to SEDUCING SPIRITS,
          – and doctrines of DEVILS;
          – Speaking LIES in HYPOCRISY;
          – having their CONSCIENCE SEARED with a hot iron;”
          (1 Timothy 4:1-2, KJB)

          – “And even as they DID NOT LIKE to retain God in their knowledge,
          – God gave them over to A REPROBATE MIND,
          – TO DO THOSE THINGS which are not convenient.”
          (Romans 1:28, KJB)

          I have no further comments to you –

          – it is the choice that only you can make
          SALVATION ~ which is ONLY by accepting “the truth” of “thus saith the LORD”
          – OR –
          HELL – by doing it ‘your way’ – following whichever ‘master’ and ‘religion’ you choose.
          .

          • Earl

            Alas, as promised in the Bible the false prophets did appear! They appeared not from outside the Church but rather from within the Churches!

            Christians are for most part asleep, unaware that Satan has so mischievously worked his way not from outside but rather from inside the Church of Christ in sheep’s clothing using the Clergy as his spokesperson citing scriptures and prophesying falsely in the name of Jesus and in so doing preventing the naive and ignorant masses from seeking the true faith of God, the true Messiah!

            Indeed the virus of false belief spread by Satan has so infiltrated the Churches and captivated its naive adherents that most Christians have become like spiritual zombies attending Churches, singing Hymns, citing verses yet utterly far removed from the true meaning of those blessed verses.

            What grief is greater than this that the very same Clergy who were supposed to be the safe keepers of the Faith of Christ have turned into werewolves destroying the true faith of God!

            As such, how would Christ return within the same Church that has already been hijacked by Satan?

            Even if today Jesus did physically descend down the sky on the clouds and were to perform all different miracles, yet the false prophets (Clergy of the Churches) would still deceive the masses into saying that this was only a sorcery and he is only a false prophet! Indeed no amount of proof can ever suffice the people who are zombified by Satan!

            “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matt. 7:21-3

  • Bro. Nick
    As a Christian of nearly sixty years I know what rock I stand on and I will not be moved. I might not be able to quote scripture as prominently as other people can but I do have a firm relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. I also understand that Satan is the author of confusion and that this is only one of his tools to do just that, confuse. Jesus will return not under any other name but the name of Jesus- Lord of Lords and King Of Kings. All other so called gods will have their turn to bow down before Him and confess that He is the ALMIGHTY GOD! He Is The Living God!

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      Dennis1 – My comment was meant as support to a ‘brother’ – and as a warning from “the word of the LORD” of the exponentially increasing Satanically led ‘spiritual deceptions, delusions, deceits, and verbal semantics’
      – which are meant to destroy the faith of everyone in “the Lord Jesus Christ” – as the Apostle Peter warned in 1 Peter 5:6-11, KJV

      Please accept my apology, as I did not intend to offend you. I had no idea that you are such a seasoned, mature and wise Christian.
      .

    • Earl

      “True loss is for him whose days have been spent in utter ignorance of his self.” – Baha’u’llah

  • Bro. Nick;
    No offense taken. As for being seasoned, mature, and wise, well, maybe perhaps but I feel that I am way behind considering my age. We are taught that by reading God’s word we will get understanding and with understanding comes wisdom. With whatever portion of those elements that we have we are to share God’s word with others with the hope that they also will understand the importance of accepting Christ as Lord and Savior. I’m probably preaching to the choir.
    Thank you for your comments and I already have a feeling that our God is blessing you.
    Dennis1

    • Earl

      Unlike the SDA, JW, Mormons, Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, etc, The Baha’i Faith is not a denomination of Christianity. It is a separate religion established by Baha’u’llah. As mentioned in my response to brother Nick, the false prophets within the Church of Christ have so corrupted the true essence of Christianity that no amount of reform within the Church will ever restore the flow of the Holy Spirit to mankind and as such God renews His religion with a new Name.

      “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.” Rev 3:12

      Indeed the “New Jerusalem” and the “New name” clearly indicate that His return would not be the same name of Christianity.

      The name of Baha’u’llah mean Baha = Glory, Allah = God. Baha’u’llah means the Glory of God.

      “For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of Hid Father” Matt. 16:27

      “The glory of Lebanon shall be given to it, the majesty of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the Lord, the majesty of our God.” Isa 35:2 [Carmel is the mountain where Baha’u’llah walked on and the shrine of the Bab was built on it and the Plain of Sharon lies at the foot of Mount Carmel]

      “And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east” Eza 43:1 [Baha’u’llah arrived in Israel banished from the east and not of His own choosing]

      The Name Glory of the Lord appears 37 times in the Old Testament and 3 times in the New Testament

      The Bible clearly points out that the False prophets are not going to come from outside the Christian religion / denomination but rather from inside in sheep’s clothing!

      “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matt 7:15 [Baha’u’llah cannot be the false prophet because He did not come from within the Christian Faith. The false prophet is one who in sheep’s clothing (from inside the Christian Faith) deceives others!]

      Again: 1 John 2:19

      “Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us”

      From the above verse it is clear that even at the time of Christ there were antichrists and there will be in the future and it clearly says that “they went out from us, but they were not really of us” which clearly indicates Baha’u’llah not being the antichrist for He was not born in the Christian religion. The antichrist is one who is from “among us” that is from the Christian faith!

      And again: 2 Peter 2:1

      “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.”

      From the above verse it is clear again that “there will be false teachers among you”. Baha’u’llah is not from “among you” He is from outside the Christian religion.

      Christ clearly prophesied in the Bible that He would come not as Jesus but as another: John 16: 12-13

      “I still have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit, when He the Spirit of Truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth.” [Spirit of Truth is a new name and another identity than Jesus as Christ says “he” will guide you, not “I” will guide you after “I” (Jesus) go away]

      Thus it is clear that the false prophets can be none other than those who arise within the Church of Christ and within the various denominations who bear the name of Christ but are as wolves in sheep’s clothing. Baha’u’llah was not of the Church of Christ. Christ clearly mentions about a new name and a new identity coming back to us not in the same name of Jesus but in the Glory of the Father (Baha’ullah name means The Glory of God)

      Doesn’t he Bible itself say that John the Baptist was the Elijah! Even though the name of John was not Elijah but the Spirit of Elijah was within him:

      “And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. But to what shall I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the market places, who call out to the other children,…” Matt 11:14-16

      And listen to what Christ says: “He who has ears, let him hear”. He is not referring to the physical ear but rather to the spiritual ear. The same is true when Baha’u’llah proclaimed to be the return of Christ. Indeed as Jesus said: “He who has ears, let him hear”

      Blessings!
      Earl

  • Jimmy

    Earl, I will take credit for all these comments over the last week and half from you and the others. The reason I say that is I read one of your lengthy comments about we are the people of the world and that we should have a Kumbaya moment or I’d like to buy the world a coke and sing in perfect harmony!!! I knew then and I know now that you aren’t a Christian. I asked you where is your Citizenship? Any Believer born from above, and with the slightest knowledge of the Scriptures knows that we are Pilgrims passing through and our citizenship is in Heaven. At this moment Believers are Aliens in this world. Salvation is not grace plus works, nor is it the Holy Scriptures plus Bahi….Allah. You may have memorized many of the Scriptures, and like I have told several people through the years, you can go and sit in a garage and call yourself a car until the Lord Jesus literally returns for the Body of Christ, but you will never be a car, nor a Christian

  • Earl

    Jimmy, As evident from my posts I am a Baha’i and a follower of Baha’u’llah. The Baha’i Faith is not a denomination or sect of Christianity and is a separate religion just as Christianity is not a sect of Judaism. To a Christian, Jesus is the Messiah promised in the Old Testament and similarly to a Baha’i, Baha’u’llah is the Christ returned in the Glory of the Father. As you mention we are like pilgrims passing through this earth but it does not mean that since we are on earth temporarily that we should not be concerned about peace, love and unity on this earth! Moreover please do not think that simply naming oneself a “Christian” would necessarily mean passport to heaven!

    “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matt. 7:21-3

  • Drake

    Very good movie the story follows, so you need to watch the early movies to understand what’s happening. The Terminator has even a smile now. Action from the start right up to the end of the movie. 4/5 Link where I watched: http://twomovies.us/watch_movie/Terminator_Genisys

  • Earl

    Dear friends,

    I am hereby sharing a very interesting article on Religion and Exclusivism that you might find interesting. As mentioned in the article: “The term ‘exclusivism’ has been adopted in interfaith dialogue to denote the attitude of those who maintain that only their religion is true and that the others are false”

    Here is the pdf file:

    http://irfancolloquia.org/pdf/lights7_savi_exclusivism.pdf

    Blessings!
    Earl

  • Earl:
    There is something that I think needs to be said about your comments about “religion”.
    I do not claim to have any religion. I have a Relationship” that has been obtained by following the steps that my redeemer Jesus Christ has laid down for me and for millions of others who have chosen to follow. It is very simply put: Believe On The LORD JESUS CHRIST And Thou Shalt Be Saved. Jesus said “I Am The Way, not Mohammed or Buda or any of the other so called gods or spiritual leaders that have come and gone. You will never convince me that Islam is a religion of peace acceptable by God or that any spiritual leader who has spoken only of being kind to others and doing any kind of works will please my God to gain admission into the Kingdom Of Heaven. It doesn’t work that way and never will. We are all as filthy rags in His sight. The only way to God is by accepting Jesus as lord and savior, understanding that it is his blood that covers our sins. That is what is acceptable to God for salvation. What part of “Only Jesus” don’t you understand? There is no other name under heaven!

    • Earl

      Dear Dennis,

      Though I have explained the Baha’i views in my previous posts I’ll try to briefly explain them again. I do not wish to infringe on your beliefs or change any of your beliefs, but simply wish to share.

      We do know that Christianity is not the only religion in the world. A quick study of the faith practiced by the adherents of different religions clearly indicates that the followers of all religions of the past have created for themselves a concept that theirs is the only path to salvation. When you speak to each on of them, they all, like yourself, sincerely and strongly believe so. I do not question your sincerity but neither can I question theirs! A Moslem, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Jew, each one of them will eloquently quote from their own scriptures to prove that theirs is the only path to the Lord! As I have shared before, I’ll again share a few quotes:

      Buddhism (Dhammapada 20:274): “This is the path. There is no other that leads to vision”

      Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita 18:66): “Abandoning all duties, come to Me alone for shelter”

      Islam (Imam Ali Hadith): “Whoso seeks guidance elsewhere, God will lead him astray”

      The above are just simply a small sample. I do have devoted Jewish friends, Muslim friends, Hindu friends, and believe me when I talk to them about religion, they each “sincerely” bring forth quotations from their own scriptures to prove theirs is the only true Faith! Each of them have a Holy Book for whom it is as blessed as the Bible is for you.

      Thus if an alien were to visit the planet earth today from another planet and the representatives of each religion; Hindu, Buddhist, Jew, Christian, Islam, would all come to him and each pleading to him sincerely to follow their only religion to gain salvation, what do you think he would think?

      The viewpoint of the Baha’i Faith is not based on exclusivism but rather that all of them are true as each one of them (Abraham, Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, The Bab, and Baha’u’llah) spoke not of their own accord but rather spoke with the same voice of God!

      A small example would be how you see that the sun in the sky is the same sun that always shines, but due to the rotation of the earth, we have different days. If today being a Monday, the very same sun again arises and says “I am Monday and am the only path to light and heat”, would you argue and say: “How can you be the same sun, because the sun that I worship from Sunday told me that there can be no other way to light and heat, and I only worship him!”

      As Baha’is we believe that this is the same with religion. There is only one God and only one religion just as there is only one sun in the sky and only one emanation in the form of its rays, but when that one religion reveals itself to mankind it attains a progressive nature just as when the same sun shines on the earth it attains progressive nature of different days. Each day is different, each with its own characteristic, needs etc but on each day the same sun shines and speaks with the same authority! So when Jesus said, I am the Lord and the only path to salvation, He was correct because He spoke with the authority of God! And same is with the other religions as well. Each spoke with the same authority but in different periods in the history of mankind. For today, Baha’u’llah speaks again with the same authority. A thousand years from now, another Manifestation of God will speak to mankind with the same authority.

      As I mentioned in my post before, such a progressive nature of religion has been there even before Jesus and will be in the future. This does not in any way belittle the station of Jesus, but rather elevates the station of all Manifestations of God to the same highest level

      Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita 4:7-8): “Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and a rise of unrighteousness, then I send forth Myself, for the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked and for the establishment of righteousness, I come into being from age to age”

      Buddhism (Mahaparinibbana Sutta): “I am not the first Buddha who came upon the earth nor shall I be the last. In due time another Buddha will arise”

      Jesus (Matt 5:17): “Think not that have come to destroy the law of the prophets: I have come not to destroy but to fulfill.”

      Judaism (Mic 5:2): “But thou, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall H come forth unto Me that is to be the ruler in Israel; Whose goings forth have been fro of old, and from everlasting.”

      Islam (Quran 35:22): “Verily We have sent thee with the truth. A comforter and a warner, and there is not a people but a warner hath not passed among them”

      Using the same analogy of the one sun and different days, you can easily see that when a new day arises, the sun does not suddenly appear on the midday sky but starts slow as a dawn, then comes noon when its heat and light is at climax and soon it becomes evening when the rays of the sun slowly fade away and in the night it becomes dark when there is no more light!

      The same is with each day of the Lord. When a new religion starts, it has a dawn, a noon time, an evening and night and it is during that night when eyes do not see clearly and misinterpretations of scriptures take place. And then due to the motion of the earth the very same sun again makes its appearance the next morning and says, “I am the same sun, come follow me and receive the same light and heat that I showered upon you all before”

      So when Jesus says “I am the only way” He is truly correct because He speaks with the same authority of God that others before Him spoke and others after Him did and this process continues for ever because the grace and love of God is never-ending.

      Blessings!
      Earl

  • Well, lets all get together and sing Kumbi’a or however it is spelled.
    These other “religions” are man made. Islam is a religion of love as long as you believe that they are the only way. Otherwise you are the infidel and already like many, you might wake in the morning with your head lying beside you. If there are 72 virgins waiting for these people when they get to their utopia, I wish them well. Remember, within approximately 72 days they would all no longer be virgins but a bunch of complainers to pester you f-o-re-v-e-r. I’ll stick to the truth behind God the Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, thank you and goodbye.

    • MRH

      Islam is a religion of love as long as you believe that they are the only way. Otherwise you are the infidel and already like many, you might wake in the morning with your head lying beside you.

      Only problem is you won’t know it, as the dead are asleep (oblivious) 😯

      FYI: The term ‘religion’ is biblical, and varies accordingly 😉

      Act 26:5 KJV – Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.

      Ἰουδαϊσμός Ioudaïsmós, ee-oo-dah-is-mos’; from G2450; “Judaism”, i.e. the Jewish faith and usages:—Jews’ religion.

      Jas 1:26-27 KJV – If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

      θρησκός thrēskós, thrace’-kos; probably from the base of G2360; ceremonious in worship (as demonstrative), i.e. pious:—religious.

      P.S. The world religions are many, and all will combine as ONE in the end!

      • Earl

        Dear MRH,

        I found it very interesting that you mentioned “The world religions are many, and all will combine as ONE in the end!” It reminded me of the words of Baha’u’llah spoken to a Western scholar from Cambridge, Professor Edward Brown, more than a century ago that refer to the same theme:

        “We desire but the good of the world and the happiness of the nations; yet they deem Us a stirrer up of strife and sedition worthy of bondage and banishment…. That all nations should become one in faith and all men as brothers; that the bonds of affection and unity between the sons of men should be strengthened; that diversity of religion should cease, and differences of race be annulled—what harm is there in this?… Yet so it shall be; these fruitless strifes, these ruinous wars shall pass away, and the ‘Most Great Peace’ shall come…. Yet do We see your kings and rulers lavishing their treasures more freely on means for the destruction of the human race than on that which would conduce to the happiness of mankind…. These strifes and this bloodshed and discord must cease, and all men be as one kindred and one family…. Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather glory in this, that he loves his kind….”

        Blessings!
        Earl

        • MRH

          That all nations should become one in faith and all men as brothers; that the bonds of affection and unity between the sons of men should be strengthened; that diversity of religion should cease, and differences of race be annulled—what harm is there in this

          Earl: This is worldly thinking at best, nothing to do with Gods future plans. The earthly global system to come is by mans design, not by Gods. If fact there will not be true lasting peace on earth until the millennium kingdom prevails. Afterwards is the final resurrection followed by judgment day, and concluding with paradise.

          • Earl

            Dear MRH,

            Peace is a process and not a single event. A process will have ups and downs until finally it is perfected and reached at. In fact the process of peace already started many many years ago. When a group of families learnt to live together peacefully in a group, they evolved into a tribe and it was a step in the process of peace. When tribes learnt to live together peacefully in a city-state unit, it was yet another step toward the process of peace. When city-state units learnt to come together and form a pact and live harmoniously in one nation unit, it was still another step in the process of peace. At every stage of such a transition there have always been pessimistic people who keep fighting against the tide of change and want to keep the status quo unaware of the fact that they cannot go against the Will and plan of God. Today we stand at yet another phase in the process of peace. Gone are those days when citizens of one nation would hardly travel to other countries or get to interact with people of other nationalities, religions, ideologies. Today with the advent of fast travel, high speed communication and internet, the entire world has shrunk into one small unit. The upheaval and unrest that we see in the world today is a sign of its coming of age and its inevitable need and necessity to progress into yet the next phase in the process of this world peace, when all nations will be united into one world unit. This is thus the next step in the organic process and it will come to pass. I don’t see why a Loving and Kind God would be against such a process of peace and unity. Let us all pray that the day will hasten when all people of the world of whatever nationality, race, religion, caste, creed, ideology, financial status, will learn to live in harmony with respect and dignity for one another. Such a step in the process of peace gained traction since the industrial revolution and has became more apparent in the past 150 years or so. Look at the history of civilization; For thousands of years travel from one place to another was limited by either on foot, horse, donkey, camel, etc. In only the past century and half dramatic improvements have taken place in all areas of communication, travel, sciences and discoveries with such speed that it rivals all that of the combined written history of the past ages. What force other than the power of God through His Christ or Messiah could have accomplished this? As Baha’is we believe that ever since the inception of the Baha’i Faith in 1844 such a power has been released into humanity through the revelation of the Bab and Baha’u’llah to enable mankind to produce such scientific discoveries that would help achieve the plan of God, to establish the unity of mankind and peace and unfurl the kingdom of God on earth.

            Writing of this force released into mankind by the revelation of Himself, Baha’u’llah writes: “The world’s equilibrium hath been upset through the vibrating influence of this most great, this new World Order. Mankind’s ordered life hath been revolutionized through the agency of this unique, this wondrous System—the like of which mortal eyes have never witnessed.” “The Hand of Omnipotence hath established His Revelation upon an unassailable, an enduring foundation. Storms of human strife are powerless to undermine its basis, nor will men’s fanciful theories succeed in damaging its structure.”

            The Writings of Baha’u’llah were not like a person who would write a book writing, re-writing and correcting etc. Bahá’u’lláh would sometimes recite with such rapidity that His secretary could barely keep up with the flow of His words. Afterwards, the secretary would occasionally be unable to read his own handwriting and would ask Bahá’u’lláh to help decipher the words.

            In another of His revelations He mentions:

            “Naught is seen in My temple but the Temple of God, and in My beauty but His Beauty, and in My being but His Being, and in My self but His Self, and in My movement but His Movement, and in My acquiescence but His Acquiescence, and in My pen but His Pen, the Mighty, the All-Praised. There hath not been in My soul but the Truth, and in Myself naught could be seen but God.” “The Holy Spirit Itself hath been generated through the agency of a single letter revealed by this Most Great Spirit, if ye be of them that comprehend.”… “Within the treasury of Our Wisdom there lies unrevealed a knowledge, one word of which, if we chose to divulge it to mankind, would cause every human being to recognize the Manifestation of God and to acknowledge His omniscience, would enable every one to discover the secrets of all the sciences, and to attain so high a station as to find himself wholly independent of all past and future learning. Other knowledges We do as well possess, not a single letter of which We can disclose, nor do We find humanity able to hear even the barest reference to their meaning. Thus have We informed you of the knowledge of God, the All-Knowing, the All-Wise.” “The day is approaching when God will have, by an act of His Will, raised up a race of men the nature of which is inscrutable to all save God, the All-Powerful, the Self-Subsisting.” “He will, ere long, out of the Bosom of Power draw forth the Hands of Ascendancy and Might—Hands who will arise to win victory for this Youth and who will purge mankind from the defilement of the outcast and the ungodly. These Hands will gird up their loins to champion the Faith of God, and will, in My name the self-subsistent, the mighty, subdue the peoples and kindreds of the earth. They will enter the cities and will inspire with fear the hearts of all their inhabitants. Such are the evidences of the might of God; how fearful, how vehement is His might!”

            Blessings!

            Earl

    • Earl

      In Iran, the country of the birth of the Baha’i Faith, the Baha’is are persecuted, jailed, killed, denied basic rights of work and higher education by the Islamic regime. When the Bab proclaimed His mission in 1844 to be the Herald of the coming of Baha’u’llah, the high priests and Clergy of Islam in Iran conspired and ultimately led to the martyrdom of the Bab in 1850. Baha’u’llah Himself after His declaration was banished from Iran to Iraq, Constantinople, Adrianople and finally to what is now known as Israel and was for 40 years constantly being harased by the corrupt Islamic regime and clergy. The atrocities committed by the radical followers of Islam towards the members of the Baha’i Faith and other minority religions such as Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Judaism continue even today. However, when you look at history, the same was during the time of Jesus when the corrupt clergy in Judaism conspired and led to the crucifixion of Jesus and they along with the corrupt Roman empire were responsible for the many atrocities towards early Christians.

      The Baha’is do not look at these corruptions as a proof of the religion itself being bad. When the corrupt Jewish clergy conspired to lead to the crucifixion of Jesus, it was not a sign that Moses was Himself bad, but rather a sign of the corruption of the essence of Judaism! Similarly the atrocities and crimes committed by the radical Moslems towards Baha’is is not looked upon by Baha’is as a sign that Mohammad or Islam is bad but rather a sign of the corruption of Islam.

      The start of a new religion is like a birth of a new born. In the beginning it is fresh and full of life. Later as it gets old, its powers weaken. It can’t see clearly. Organs don’t work appropriately until it dies. Religion too is organic in nature. It has a life of its own. When it dies and the very same God “renews” His covenant with man in the form of a “new” religion, the newly dead body of the previous religion is still lying around. Now I ask you this: Which one is the source of greatest foul smell, a newly dead body or one that has died 1000 years ago? With the death of Islam, the very same One God renewed His covenant with mankind and gave birth to the Baha’i Faith. The freshly dead body of Islam is the latest one around and being newly dead, the carcass of Islam has a very strong foul stench attached to it. Just as when Jesus appeared, Judaism was already dead and was the freshly dead body around and so the foul smell of the body of Judaism was much more apparent than say today when it has reformed itself.

      Similarly, what you see today as Islam is because the soul is no longer in the body of Islam and Islam is dead and this newly dead carcass lying around is the cause of strong and foul ideas. Christianity too had its foul smell during the Dark ages. Later as time goes on, the followers of the previous religion reform themselves and create for themselves new organizations etc and they continue their survival in spite of the fact that the Spirit no longer is in that body. And so as time goes on the foul smell gradually becomes less and less just as when time goes on and the body turns into bones and ashes, it no longer produces foul smell even though the spirit no longer resides in the body!

      Thus the corruption of Islam today, or that of Christianity during the dark ages, or that of Judaism at the time of Jesus are not a sign of their religion to be wrong, but rather a sign of the weakening of religious ideologies, corruption and eventual death of that old body and then the Holy Spirit is reborn again in the form of a successive religion. Every religion starts off as pure, just like a stream of water staring from a mountain. But as it flows through valleys and lands, it starts accumulating dust and dirt. Factories and humans around dump their wastes into it until finally the end product is extremely toxic! Today what you see in Islam is that toxic waste. When religion too flows in time corrupt ideologies creep into it and becomes so toxic that the Holy Spirit no longer can flow through it. Thus the very same One God renews His covenant with man in the form of a new religion just as a new stream on the mountain from which the same pure water from the depths of the earth can be revived and start flowing in a new stream. Thus as Baha’is we believe that all religions are essentially pure but they are corrupted and become toxic due to human intervention.

      Blessings!
      Earl

    • Earl

      In Iran, the country of the birth of the Baha’i Faith, the Baha’is are persecuted, jailed, killed, denied basic rights of work and higher education by the Islamic regime. When the Bab proclaimed His mission in 1844 to be the Herald of the coming of Baha’u’llah, the high priests and Clergy of Islam in Iran conspired and ultimately led to the martyrdom of the Bab in 1850. Baha’u’llah Himself after His declaration was banished from Iran to Iraq, Constantinople, Adrianople and finally to what is now known as Israel and was for 40 years constantly being harased by the corrupt Islamic regime and clergy. The atrocities committed by the radical followers of Islam towards the members of the Baha’i Faith and other minority religions such as Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Judaism continue even today. However, when you look at history, the same was during the time of Jesus when the corrupt clergy in Judaism conspired and led to the crucifixion of Jesus and they along with the corrupt Roman empire were responsible for the many atrocities towards early Christians.

      The Baha’is do not look at these corruptions as a proof of the religion itself being bad. When the corrupt Jewish clergy conspired to lead to the crucifixion of Jesus, it was not a sign that Moses was Himself bad, but rather a sign of the corruption of the essence of Judaism! Similarly the atrocities and crimes committed by the radical Moslems towards Baha’is is not looked upon by Baha’is as a sign that Mohammad or Islam is bad but rather a sign of the corruption of Islam.

      The start of a new religion is like a birth of a new born. In the beginning it is fresh and full of life. Later as it gets old, its powers weaken. It can’t see clearly. Organs don’t work appropriately until it dies. Religion too is organic in nature. It has a life of its own. When it dies and the very same God “renews” His covenant with man in the form of a “new” religion, the newly dead body of the previous religion is still lying around. Now I ask you this: Which one is the source of greatest foul smell, a newly dead body or one that has died 1000 years ago? With the death of Islam, the very same One God renewed His covenant with mankind and gave birth to the Baha’i Faith. The freshly dead body of Islam is the latest one around and being newly dead, the carcass of Islam has a very strong foul stench attached to it. Just as when Jesus appeared, Judaism was already dead and was the freshly dead body around and so the foul smell of the body of Judaism was much more apparent than say today when it has reformed itself.

      Similarly, what you see today as Islam is because the soul is no longer in the body of Islam and Islam is dead and this newly dead carcass lying around is the cause of strong and foul ideas. Christianity too had its foul smell during the Dark ages. Later as time goes on, the followers of the previous religion reform themselves and create for themselves new organizations etc and they continue their survival in spite of the fact that the Spirit no longer is in that body. And so as time goes on the foul smell gradually becomes less and less just as when time goes on and the body turns into bones and ashes, it no longer produces foul smell even though the spirit no longer resides in the body!

      Thus the corruption of Islam today, or that of Christianity during the dark ages, or that of Judaism at the time of Jesus are not a sign of their religion to be wrong, but rather a sign of the weakening of religious ideologies, corruption and eventual death of that old body and then the Holy Spirit is reborn again in the form of a successive religion. Every religion starts off as pure, just like a stream of water staring from a mountain. But as it flows through valleys and lands, it starts accumulating dust and dirt. Factories and humans around dump their wastes into it until finally the end product is extremely toxic! Today what you see in Islam is that toxic waste. When religion too flows in time corrupt ideologies creep into it and becomes so toxic that the Holy Spirit no longer can flow through it. Thus the very same One God renews His covenant with man in the form of a new religion just as a new stream on the mountain from which the same pure water from the depths of the earth can be revived and start flowing in a new stream. Thus as Baha’is we believe that all religions are essentially pure but they are corrupted and become toxic due to human intervention.

      Blessings!
      Earl

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