Shock As Glenn Beck Proclaims Ted Cruz To Be Fulfillment Of Mormon White Horse Prophecy

Glenn Beck said this weekend in Utah that Ted Cruz is the fulfillment of the Mormon doctrine of the White Horse Prophecy. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Salt Lake Tribune — ‘Cruz in Utah: Glenn Beck Says He’s Fulfillment of Mormon Prophecy’

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.” 2 Timothy 3:1 (KJV)

For months now, we have been telling you about Ted Cruz’s unique brand of Christianity and we have taken a lot of flak from people saying that we should “support Ted Cruz as the only Christian candidate”. We showed you last week about Ted’s Dominionist Theology roots that they have combined with the false Prosperity Gospel. We also told you about how Mormon Glenn Beck has been campaigning for him incessantly.

Glenn Beck says to ‘prepare for a time of miracles’ from Ted Cruz:

Well, this weekend Beck upped the ante and says Ted Cruz is doing more than running for president. Glenn Beck said this weekend in Utah that Ted Cruz is the fulfillment of the Mormon doctrine of the White Horse Prophecy.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Glenn Beck – A Message for Utah 3/19/2016

The White Horse Prophecy is a statement purported to have been made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, regarding the future of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and the United States of America. The Latter Day Saints, according to the prophecy, would “go to the Rocky Mountains and … be a great and mighty people”, identified figuratively with the White Horse described in the Book of Revelation. The prophecy further predicts that the United States Constitution will one day “hang like a thread” and will be saved “by the efforts of the White Horse

Now Glenn Beck has stood up to declare that Ted Cruz is that man from the White Horse Prophecy, and that he is going to lead a Mormon priesthood takeover of the United States. And as of this writing, Ted Cruz has not done his Christian duty and publically disavowed this heretical false Mormon teaching.

The gospel truth about the wacky doctrines of Mormonism:

Since Ted Cruz doesn’t have the guts to tell you  that Mormonism is a cult, we are doing it for him.

Is that because Ted believes it, too? Christians write to me every day and tell me what a “great Christian” Ted Cruz is. If he really is such a great Christian, how come he wants to you think that the cult of Mormonism is a legitimate sect of Christianity? If Cruz does not set the record straight on Beck’s comments, we must take that as his endorsement of Mormonism. As much as Cruz has made this election all about God and the Bible you would think he would take a moment and expose a cult like the Mormons. But sadly, he seems quite incapable of even this small thing to make a stand for Biblical Christianity.

If you have a link where Cruz disavows Beck’s statement please post it in the comments section below.

 

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • James Raymond Lane

    I read somewhere else that Mitt Romney was supposed to be the fulfillment. Perhaps that’s why Mitt lost. Perhaps it’s also the reason Ted Cruz looks (at the moment) like he will lose also. Very interesting indeed! 🙂

    • Dan

      Did anyone actually watch the videos? GB didn’t even mention a white horse, let alone Ted Cruz being a fulfillment of prophecy. Do they just assume no one will take the time?

      • Those statements were not in the video, they were in the interview from the Salt Lake Tribune. Click the links and see for yourself.

      • TorchbearerforJesus

        Dan, sad to say, I got a nice history lesson and listened to Beck spread fertilizer, but I also heard absolutely nothing about the fulfillment of prophecy or of a “white horse”. I wasted my time listening to his speech because I thought he was going to come to it at some point. Quite disappointing. I enjoyed the cartoon though! That was quite revelatory!

      • Jim

        Thank you, Dan! I watched the whole thing. What I heard was Glenn asking fellow Mormons to do their part to restore the constitution.

      • Jim

        I just read the SLTrib’s article. I don’t see it there either.

    • Sam Fox

      James & every one, for the more on why Cruz should NOT be supported or voted for, search
      Kelleigh Nelson On Ted Cruz
      We are all familiar with the North American Union I hope. Well, Mrs. Nelson, a Christian by the way, shows that Heidi Cruz wrote or assisted in writing the document for the NAU. Kelleigh uses a lot of citations in her articles. She doesn’t just make off the cuff statements.
      She has her own site & she writes for NewsWithViews.com. Many of the contributors there are followers of The Way.
      I see Geoffrey exposed Ted’s Dominion connections. Right on!
      Rand Paul was my man, but he’s gone. Then I was for Cruz till I started looking at him more closely.
      I suggest that those who are for Ted look up what Mrs. Nelson exposes about him.

      Thank you & God bless!

      SamFox

      • KS

        Now who do you support? Just curious, my guy stepped aside – undecided

      • jane

        Yes, quite disturbing about Heidi and her CFR , NAU work. That’s why I see Cruz’s dual citizenship with Canada suspicious, and he only dropped it right before he decided to run for President. He was also for amnesty until Trump became so popular with his wall…now Cruz wants a wall. That and this creepy religion is a definite no-no for me.

        • Ginger

          He does not have a dual Canadian citizenship anymore. He renounced it. He left Canada at age 4. He is not a Canadian.

          • Linda

            Ginger – in all due respect, Cruz (Rafael Edward Cruz) never had a dual citizenship as Canada does not recognize them with any country. Just because he left Canada at the age of 4 didn’t mean he was not a Canadian any more. It wasn’t until 2014 he denounced his citizenship of Canada did he become a U.S. citizen and according to article 2, Clause 5, one must be a Natural Born Citizen or if you apply for U.S. citizenship, must be a legal resident of the U.S. for 14 years before running for presidency. His mom left the U.S. and gained a citizenship in Canada before Cruz was born.

          • Skywatcher

            Ginger, even as a Canadian, I know that the qualifications to be a president requires the candidate to be born in America! This is according to your constitution; how come you don’t know that?

          • jennifer

            linda – im not sure why you think you cant have dual citizenship.
            http://www.wikihow.com/Have-Dual-Citizenship-in-the-US-and-Canada

  • Skywatcher

    Excellent post, Brother Geoffrey! Also, a very excellent and very informative link on the Mormon missionaries! Well presented, succinct, and accurate! Very anti-Christian! As a former Freemason, I’m cannot remember which came first…Freemasonry or Mormonism; they’re identical, using the same passwords, handshakes, oaths, symbols,etc. For the life of me, I don’t see how Cruz can allow an endorsement from this very subtle cult if he were a Bible Christian. We KNOW he isn’t! This should be an eye-opener to the deniers. Thank you, for this post!

    • Thank you! I will be very interested to see how Cruz supporters will spin this one. What type of Christian uses cult members to campaign for him??

      • GRACE

        A desperate one of course, what Christian lies to steal votes from another candidate, a desperate one and I’ve noticed every time a reporter interviews Cruz and asks a question, he never answers it, he always beats around the bush to where the reporter either runs out of time or forgets what they asked in the first place, he deflects very well but yet he has the gall to claim Trump has no plan to help America.

      • Estrella de David

        Excellent job Brother Geoffrey! I pray this exposes Cruz for what he is…

      • Ky

        NO spin Geoff.
        A politician does not intentionally offend any group of people including Mormons because they VOTE. As smart as you are, I would think you would understand that. Now a website owner can do what he wants, and they typically do.

        • DC

          KY, you and I get along rather well, so I don’t want to stir up trouble, but why can you be so nice and brotherly in Christ sometimes and then continue to make digs at Geoff? It’s fine that you disagree with him, and we all get it that you are for Cruz, but you’ve been rather relentless with the snide remarks. It’s like you look for something where you can be trite and enjoy it, in my view. I think it’s called passive-aggressive. Please give that part of your disagreement a rest. I say this in love, and as one who has been nasty a time or too and then regretted it.
          ‘kay?

          • DC

            *two

        • Ted Cruz won Utah last night, but lost Arizona. He is now 18 more delegates behind Trump than he was on Monday. Enjoy the “victory”.

    • Estrella de David

      Excellent comment Skywatcher! That is what I have been teeling people here in Mexico, Cruz “says” he is a Christian… but look who his wife is involved with…the CFR… ill/-umi/ados…

      ¡Viva Trump!

      And we should all unite to fight with Trump against these dispicable, heartless, unmerciful, Nephilim adoring monsters! Only monsters could devise such horrific plans to eliminate more than 3/4 of the world´s 7.5 billion population!

      Praise YESHUA that he will soon come to destroy these wicked satanic powers that be controlled by the je/-suits… followers of the il-/umin/ado Ignacio de Loyola … whose vision in a cave was of the same nature as that of Mahoma…

      YAHVÉ is in total control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Guest

    Great post Geoffrey! This country is soooooo gone. Satan has complete control of Washington DC. Come Lord Jesus.

  • Must be more of the Masonic wh*redom propaganda.

  • Just another apostate…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=6088

  • Robert

    This has nothing to do with the above article, but I saw it on FOXNEWS.COM. The Pope now has an instagram account, saying that he believes images can reveal many things. Gee, ya think so? I’m sure Geoffrey will have more about this in detail in the days to come.

  • It is official, day days of strong delusion is here!

    • Skywatcher

      Hey there, Brother Roland! The days of strong delusion are just starting to warm up…in preparation for the Rapture of the Church. As you probably know, the Church body houses the Holy Spirit, I Cor. 3: 16; 6: 19, and when the Church is raptured out, the Holy Spirit goes also, “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.”

      So, truthfully, the days of strong delusion aren’t here yet, because the Holy Spirit and us are still here. It is getting pretty bad though, compared to what us older sled dogs are used to. God bless you, Bro!

      • Sam Fox

        Skywatcher, you got that right. You mention one of them…;-)

        Rapture? Fit it in here,

        https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13&version=AMPC

        The link takes you to a Google list. Click one that takes you to BibleGateway & start @ Matthew 13:24. Look especially at verses 27-30 & 39.

        While still @ BibleGateway, in the top search box enter John 6:39-40 & 44.
        Then enter James 1:12 in the search box. To find out when that reward is given out, look up 2 Timothy 4:8. You will then know when James 1:12 takes place & note that appears & His coming are synonymous, according to the Geek as translated by the scholars who translated the Greek to the Amplified. There are a few examples where appears & coming are used interchangeably.

        Beck. What in world happened to him????
        When he was at Fox ‘News’ he was great! A bit quirky betimes, but what he exposed was very important. None of his MANY detractors ever refuted anything that I know of regarding Beck’s presentations & facts. How could they? He used their own writings & video footage. Back then, Beck was right on. He exposed Caliphates, Van Jones & a lot of important info. That was then…
        Now Glenn is gone loco.
        I guess all we can do is pray for him.

        Mormons & Jw’s don’t come to my house any more. 😉 Word must have gone out that they’ll get educated if they drop by here.

        SamFox

        • Skywatcher

          Thank you, for those links Sam Fox. I must advise you, that if they use anything but the KJV, I’ll not be wasting a moment there. All other versions are copies of the ancient Alexandrian manuscripts that the early Church Fathers deemed as in error and heretical. Perhaps you already know that.

          IF not, were you aware that these “scholars who translated the Greek to the Amplified” were homosexuals, lesbians, and Satan worshippers? Oh yeah! This causes me to pause and to ask, why would these people want anything to do with the translation of God’s Word? They had hidden agendas, and to push those agendas, they substituted words, added and omitted words, thereby changing very serious doctrine, demoting Christ along the way! The easiest way to promote their devilish agendas were to infuse them into the churches that were so heavily attended by these perversions of Scripture.

          I’ll check it out! God bless you!

      • FRANK A HANSON

        God the Holy Spirit is Omnipresent, so I don’t think God’s Triune Nature can divest himself from “His” nature. In the nanoseconds before the revealing of the antichrist/beast, I believe we will be Raptured. God the Holy Spirit will be enlivening Trib saints for 7 years. Please read Revelations 6:9-11 the Fifth Seal. These are not the dead in Christ or those who are alive and remain (who and are Raptured ) these are the Trib saints. These are the saints of whom Jesus mentioned in the first pages of the book of Revelation “The 7 churches of the Apocalypse” with the exception of the church of Sardis & Philadelphia maybe Ephesus. I don’t know but the Dead church of Sardis is (A few who have not defiled their garments) promised from Jesus that, they who repent and strengthen what remains. It is these who will be faithfully clothed in white robes and walk with Jesus. By the way, the Seven Churches of the Apocalypse, does not just mean the Indifferent Church of Laodicea, like a lot of today’s commentaries refer. Sorry, pet-peeve…lol. It’s not the ONE church of the Apocalypse. It’s 7 unless your (not you) a preterist or partial- preterist. If people (True Christians and said faith christians) were honest with themselves, they would find parts of themselves (The Heart, Soul, Spirit and Mind) in these most beautiful of words the Lord spoke to John to write down FIRST things he wanted us to understand in the last days of christendom in “HIS” last but oh so important of 66 books. This is what our Savior in verse 3:6 meant, when “HE” said “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Blessings Brother Skywatcher, In Brotherly Love, Frank

        • Skywatcher

          Warmest greetings, Bro. Frank! Thank you for the blessings, and for that very excellent post! You said, “God the Holy Spirit is Omnipresent, so I don’t think God’s Triune Nature can divest himself from “His” nature.”

          I couldn’t agree with you more! The role of the Holy Spirit appears to go back to the same role He had in the O.T., and I believe it is because He in the G.T. He will be focusing upon O.T. people (the nation of Israel), who are focusing on O.T. sacrifices and the O.T. way of doing things at that time . They will recognize the hand of God’s judgment, and go back to “the old ways”, in hopes of being saved. The 144,000 witnesses will guide them to salvation through Yeshua.

          If we remember, in the O.T., the Holy Spirit rested upon, called or anointed specific individuals to His service. After the sacrificial system was introduced,He wasn’t readily available to all who called upon Him, as He is today. Most had to go through their priests and sacrifices or were anointed specifically by prophets of God. Today, we can all have access to God’s throne of mercy and grace through our Lord Jesus Christ. GB!

          Your loving brother in Christ,

          Skywatcher

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  • carrierwave

    I don’t know which is worse–Ted Cruz King of America, or NTEB false teaching that Tribulation Saints are saved by their “works”.

    Revelation 7:14-15 ..”these are they that came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes and made them white in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB. Therefore are they before the throne of God..” This is not Salvation by works, Geoffrey. REPENT.

    Revelation 12:11 …”and they overcame him (satan) by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB AND BY THE WORD OF THIER TESIMONY;” This is not Salvation by works, Geoffrey, REPENT.

    Revelation 20:4 ..”And I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the WITNESS OF JESUS AND FOR THE WORD OF GOD,…and THEY LIVED and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” This is not Salvation by works, Geoffrey, REPENT.

    • LOL, Guess you didn’t read Revelation 7 closely. It says that they made their own robes white, THAT’S works. Christians in the Age of Grace don’t wash their own robes. We receive the Righteousness of Jesus Christ at salvation, with white robes made white by HIS own blood and not by our works.

      And I guess you didn’t read this one at all:

      “And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.” Revelation 14:12 (KJV)

      • carrierwave

        Lies, lies, lies, Geoffery, Put on your glasses. “WASHED THEIR ROBES AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB“. Jesus made them WHITE!..just explain to us how you can literally “wash” sin stained robes in LAMB’S BLOOD and call it works that can merit eternal life!? Hmmm???

        There has never been a man or woman alive, or who has ever lived, that is not a sinner that can be saved by their works.

        “There is not a just man upon the earth that doeth good and sinneth not.” (Isaiah 64:6)

        Revelation 14:12 (KJV)“And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.”

        I have read this verse many, many times–Show us where it is teaching here they were “saved” BECAUSE of their works?? IT JUST DOSEN’T!! It plainly says “THAT THEY MAY REST FROM THEIR LABORS, AND THEIR WORKS DO FOLLOW THEM. Good works ALWAYS FOLLOW SALVATION–THEY NEVER MERIT SALVATION, and this verse never once even hints their labors and works SAVED THEM! REPENT, Geoffery

        • Linda

          I agree partly with you, as works alone do not save a person. I do not see the word faith anywhere and we must have the faith of a mustard seed also. I’m not into Christianity,, anti-Christianity, Mormons, Islamic or whatever,,, but I do believe in the Holy Trinity.

          I have read and studied the Bible – and have gone to various churches and have listened to a many sermons from all kinds of denominations…and I have a working relationship with God. Jesus was the son of God, Emanuel to be sure – which means God is among us, appropriately. I have no fear of the rest of my life nor have I a fear of eternal life. One might be with God,, doing His bidding, but I know I will remain alive through my family’s memories and pictures.

          I have a vision of 32 more years on this earth…I will live to be 100, and at that time, I will gladly give it all to Him. Until then, no one can convenience me time is drawing neigh, the end of the world is at hand or any other scare tactic that is going around. Even the angels in heaven do not know when the last days will be upon the earth.

          God is All, Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian. The word “Christian” came about when His followers began churches and those churches were dubbed Christian. I do not follow men who began religion but I follow God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. They are for real.

          • Skywatcher

            Linda, there isn’t a single one of us who is guaranteed tomorrow, much less “100 years”. What if God determines that you will die tonight with a heart attack, aneurysm, etc. Where will you spend eternity? This is not fear-mongering as you may incorrectly suppose, this is real life.

            I was speaking to a young man one day about the Lord and his eternal destination. He said, “I’m only young yet; I have plenty of time.” He was dead before his next birthday! After several nights of losing sleep, because he was extremely worried about his girlfriend who was in the hospital, carrying his first child, and having complications. He mentioned his fatigue to a friend who gave him a pill that was supposed to make him sleep. It jettisoned him into a Christless eternity!

            My 18 year old sister came home to celebrate her 19th birthday with our family; she died of a tragic car crash on her way back to the city. It was a freezing rain storm, like what we’re having here tonight; she died with no warning! GONE!

            Your eternal destiny is nothing to mess around with, Linda. I say this with all the love and grace I can muster up. We’re like a puff of wind…here one minute, gone the next. Strange…when I typed that a huge gust of wind came up, and prior to there was none for quite a spell!

            The Scriptures say, “…behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.” II Cor. 6: 2; Hebrews 2: 3 says, “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation…”

            Heb. 4: 1 says, “Let us therefore fear, lest a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.”

            God’s promise of salvation is open to all who will receive it. You do not want to be caught short like my sister and the young man I mentioned were. There is NO second chance! Heb. 9: 27, “And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after this the judgment.”

            Linda, my question to you would be, why would you want to live selfishly and self-centeredly for so many years (striving toward 100), forfeiting all the wonderful blessings that he wants to bestow upon you now? Why would you want to keep the best of your life for yourself, giving Him nothing but the left-overs as you toddle towards your goal? Especially after He sacrificed His all? After He paid the supreme price for your salvation, you would snub your nose at Him now, and say, “Later, Lord. Come back much later… when I need fire insurance and there’s nothing good left in me for you.”

            You’re 68 years old now, and climbing close to 69. Don’t you think you’ve reached the summit of life’s experiences by now? If you were ever going to be serous about wanting Christ in your life, as your own personal Savior and Lord, wouldn’t now be a great time to do it, while you still can? What if that nasty Alzheimer’s catches you off guard and you can no longer think cognitively as you do now? It may be too late.

            You said, “One might be with God,, doing His bidding, but I know I will remain alive through my family’s memories and pictures.”

            Where does this foolish notion come from? After a generation or two, or a few months even, most people are history…forgotten history. What keeps YOU alive then? Their remembrances of you cannot keep you from your eternal reward or punishment, that my dear, is guaranteed! You can take that to the bank.

            You said, “I have a working relationship with God. Jesus was the son of God, Emanuel to be sure – which means God is among us, appropriately.”

            Does this “relationship with God” entail you having cognitively invited Christ into your life as Savior and Lord? If not, you don’t have a relationship with God; you have a head knowledge. That’s not good enough! He wants a personal relationship with you, just as He did with Adam and Eve in the Garden before they sinned against Him.

            Rev. 3: 20 says,”Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

            Christ is a perfect gentleman; He will never barge into our lives. He wants us to invite Him into our lives, and with Him comes many blessings, John 10: 10. What He wants back from us is our sinful garbage, our ruined lives, regrets, hurts, love, loyalty, and obedience to Him. He is a wonderful Lord (Master) and His promises are true!

            He doesn’t want to see you go into an eternity without Him, saddled down with your eternal regrets, “Why didn’t I listen?! Why didn’t I just simply ask Him in, and commit to live the rest of my days for Him?! What a small price that was for me to pay! Now, I’m here in Hell, waiting to be dumped into the eternal lake of fire (Rev. 20: 14, 15)!

            Once you “cross over” to the other side, Linda, there is no turning back. However, right now, you have a wonderful promise to consider,

            “But as many as have received Him, to them gave He the power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” John 1:12, 13

            Don’t be deceived, Linda! The word “believe” means more than what we know it to mean today! It means to believe that He exists, and to trust Him with our immortal soul.

            James 2: 19 tells us that the demons also believe, but are they going to be saved? Nope!

            How do we receive Him then? I’m so glad you asked! First, we trust the words of John 3: 16, 17, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved.”

            I John 1: 9 tells us, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

            You’ve probably heard this a million times. You don’t have a million times left! Others who may have never heard this before will benefit from it, if you choose to neglect it again.

            So, the first step to becoming a child of God is to recognize that we are sinners, in need of a Savior.

            Rom. 3: 23 tells us, “All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

            There’s not one soul who has never committed a sin, so everybody is a sinner, and everybody needs the Savior.

            Then, we need to recognize that Jesus Christ is the Savior, “…thou shalt call his name JESUS: for He shall save his people from their sins”, Mt. 1: 21.

            Next, we confess our sins to Him. You can confess those that you remember at the moment you pray for salvation, if you feel led to do so. Later on, as He or the devil brings back to your remembrance past sins, you can ask Him to forgive you of those also. Or, you can do what most do, and ask Him to “please, forgive me of ALL my sins”.

            There is NO point in praying a sinner’s prayer if you’re not sincere, and only want fire insurance. He sees the motive of your heart, and if you don’t really want Him, you cannot have the “insurance”.

            A sinner’s prayer, as we call it, is something like this, “Dear Lord, I recognize that I am a sinner, and without you, I am destined for an eternity in the lake of fire forever. Will you please forgive me of all my sins, and be my Savior? I also want you to be my Lord (Master). Help me, Lord, to commit my life to you now, and to be obedient to your Word, thus ensuring I will receive your many promised blessings.

            Thank you, Lord, for hearing and answering my prayer. I ask this in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, amen!”

            “Amen” means “so be it”!

            Linda, when you have decided to do that, will you please send us a post to let us know? That would be a really exciting time for us! When you make that decision, do know that you’re the cause of a mighty huge ruckus in Heaven? Yep! Check it out: Luke 15: 7,

            “I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons which need no repentance.”

            v. 10, “Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.”

            When a sinner receives Jesus Christ, there is a huge party held in their honor! There is shouting and singing, praising and worshipping the Lord, first and foremost, because He made it all possible in the first place! There will be such praise going on because Satan lost a soul that he thought he had!!!

            “One for Jesus, 0 for Satan!”

            Now, that right there, is well worth accepting the gift of salvation, wouldn’t you say?

            God bless you, Linda, and whoever else may take advantage of those words. To you all, I say, be sure to come back and let us know if you made the decision to invite Christ into your life! I don’t do it for rewards or recognition! I do it because I’m commanded to do it in the Great Commission of Mt. 28: 19,

            “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”

            I do it because I want people to experience the unmatched love, grace, peace and blessed assurance that ONLY Jesus can give! It is only through giving our life to Him that we discover WHOM our real purpose in life and source of joy comes from!

            I must get off of here before we lose power, and I have to do this all over again!
            God bless! 🙂

        • David Kaus

          You are right on the money carriewave. No one will ever get to heaven except through the Blood of the Lamb. As you have correctly stated “WASHED THEIR ROBES AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB“

          And in Revelation 14:12 the context speaks of “the dead which die in the Lord.”

          None will boast before God that they got to heaven on their own works.

          Ephesians 2:9

          “Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

          The righteousness of Christ must be put on and not our righteousness.

        • Skywatcher

          Dear Carrierwave, somewhere along the way, I disagreed with your stance on this washing of their robes issue with Geoffrey. Somehow, I missed the whole point, and that greatly disturbs me. What disturbs me even more, is that I disagreed with YOU when YOU were in the right! I’m still shaking my head, that I could be that blind to this issue. I’m very sorry! Please accept my humble apology!

          Our brother, David Kaus brought this to my attention, and I’m very glad he did! Thank you, Bro!

          • David Kaus

            You are entirely welcome Skywatcher

            We have a Roman Catholic gospel being preached here of a works salvation by Geoffrey Grider.

      • Sam Fox

        Geoffrey, though I agree with you that works don’t save us, they follow us, I think the verse means that ‘they made their robes white’ isn’t referring to works, rather to the fact that BECAUSE they choose to submit to Christ & let Him wash away their sin because of His blood sacrifice, that is how they made their robes white.

        Hope that makes sense…;-)

        SamFox

      • Dan

        Geoff, Rev 14 could be referring to the 144,000 who did follow the Torah before GOD anointed them with the seal of the

        Holy Spirit. Their good works will follow them when they are taken to heaven. They are literally the

        (First fruit offering ) to GOD in the harvesting during the tribulation. These saints are being harvested by the

        angels towards the end of chapter 14.

      • Skywatcher

        Brother Geoffrey, how can you believe that a Christian at any time can be saved by their own works? The “age of grace” has absolutely nothing to do with it. We have all “washed our sins away” in the blood of Jesus, merely by reaching out to Him in confession and asking for His forgiveness. That act is not a “work” anymore than having Him wash our sins away with His blood is. He did the work, on the cross, and we merely avail ourselves to His blood. He’s the One who baptizes us in His blood which is the protective covering.

        Your position flies in direct opposition to Eph. 2: 8,9,

        “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works lest any man should boast.”

        Titus 3: 5, “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6. Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus
        Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

        I’m sure I can find other refs. to support my position, but these should suffice. When we look into the O.T., grace was sufficient there, which strongly appears to have been based on obedience, rather than sacrifice, centuries before Christ spilled His blood for us. Now that Christ has sacrificed Himself, “once and for all”, that would also extend to the Tribulation saints and the saints of the Millennial reign of Christ. There could be no greater or other sacrifice, and we definitely know that no man’s works can parallel to the work Christ did on our behalf.

        I went a step further in my research before posting this, and for the life of me, I cannot find a single passage in God’s Word that declares that anybody apart from the G.T. saints even have a white robe. It’s nowhere to be found. I agree with you, we “receive the righteousness of Jesus Christ”, but nowhere does it say WE have “white robes”. At the transfiguration, it says that Christ’s robes were “white as snow”, but that in no way means ours will be too. Am I missing something?

        Brother Geoffrey, can you give me a Scripture reference that supports your “age of grace” defense, please?

        • Dan

          Sw , I think you mean (Age without Grace defense). I went a step further in my research before posting this, and for the life of me, I cannot find a single passage in God’s Word (Have you researched the other threads)? Geoff’s

          already explained it to you SW, to us; your just not following the threads where he’s done it, and you missed it.

          We are already at or should be at ; whether you agree with him or not. For me, it’s too ambiguous.

          • Skywatcher

            Sorry, Dan! I didn’t mean to come across as being ambiguous. I’m NOT in agreement with Geoffrey on this one! Apparently, I have missed some threads, but I hope I’ve caught up now. Thanks, for your input. Blessings!

          • Dan

            SW, I’m saying the book of revelations can be ambiguous. If you’re not being clear at least I could ask you to

            clarify but good ole John’s been dead awhile so, you know we do our best to understand what he meant. What is so

            disappointing is sometimes we absolutely without doubt claim to know what John was saying or meant to say; that is

            hard for me to understand. But, our creator has his reasons I’m sure and so we should do our best and we should

            never forget the good news and the family we belong to while doing it; sometimes I think we do.

          • Skywatcher

            Brother Dan, what really tends to make the Book of Revelation ambiguous, (and thanks for clarifying it wasn’t me!)is that poor dear John was trying to write about things that hadn’t been in existence in his day, and he therefore, didn’t quite know what to make of them or how to explain them. Therefore, it leaves too much room for speculation sometimes, i.e. the “mark of the beast”.

            I find it’s not too hard to understand until…other people start putting in their conjectures and interpretations. That’s not bad, but if one isn’t careful enough, they can quickly become confused…if they weren’t already!

            I believe, that as we race upon that time, these ambiguous things will become more clearer with each passing event and minute. As far as some of the “critters” listed, i.e. locusts, etc., the people who are here to witness such, will immediately recognize what the Scriptures had been trying to convey at that time.

            I agree with you…we should never forget the good news and our mission to pass it along. And, again I agree, we must never forget our place of refuge and strength within Christ. We are hid in Him, and as long as we choose to stay within His protective custody and covered by His blood, we have nothing to fear!

            I don’t lose any sleep over the parts where the Church is not in the picture. Now, when it comes to Heaven and Hell and the Lake of Fire, I NEED to be absolutely clear! 🙂

        • David Kaus

          Hello Skywatcher.

          It is evident that Geoffrey Grider can not divide the Word of God on the issue of the Grace of God during the tribulation. He’s hung up on the Grace of God being gone because the Church is no longer here after the Translation/Rapture. So he takes a statement by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24 to try to back up his heresy of a works salvation during the tribulation. A little common sense even tells us that that is impossible. A sin nature can not be changed by works, nor can the Righteousness of Jesus Christ be imputed by works, and all of that has to be accomplished to be saved. NO one will stand before God boasting that they got saved by works as Scripture tells us. In addition other Scripture talks of God’s Mercy upon all Jew, and Gentile, and how the Jews finally come to faith in Jesus Christ by looking upon Him who they have pierced (killed).

          Matthew 24:13,14

          “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”

          “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”

          Notice in Matthew 24 “shall be saved” is future tense, not present tense. Provision is made for unbelieving Jews who have endured the tribulation to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. In addition the Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the tribulation in all the world for whosoever will to believe on.

          Zechariah 12:10

          “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”

          The Jews who endure the Tribulation (two thirds will be killed) “shall be saved,” but NOT by works. No one can be saved by works period, ever, period.

          This will no doubt be during the feast of the Day of Atonement, which will fulfill another Jewish Feast in Jesus Christ.

          Acts 2 (not all of the prophecy of Joel was fulfilled at Pentecost, ie verse 19 and 20)

          16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

          17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

          18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

          19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

          20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

          Joel 2:27, 28

          “And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.”

          “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:”

          Jesus Christ is present here in the midst of Israel, and The Holy Spirit is poured out on all who have come to a saving faith in Him at the end of the Tribulation. This is how they shall be saved.

          Once again in Romans 11 Scripture tell us that God will have Mercy upon all, even the Jews who have rejected Him during the Church age, and in the Tribulation.

          26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

          27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. (God takes away their sine, no works here)

          28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

          29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

          30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

          31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

          32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

          ALL who are in unbelief during the Church age, or after the Church age need God’s Mercy to be saved.

          • Skywatcher

            That requires a HUGE AMEN, Bro.! You and I are definitely on the same page. I just don’t know how Geoffrey cannot see that.

            David, you said, **”Matthew 24:13,14

            “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”

            “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”

            Notice in Matthew 24 “shall be saved” is future tense, not present tense. Provision is made for unbelieving Jews who have endured the tribulation to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.”**

            Some people actually believe that all Jews will be saved at that time, but that is not true either. Only those who choose to recognize Christ and reach out for the provision He has made for them will be saved.

            That’s a good word, Bro. Thanks!

          • OUR TOP 5 REASONS WHY MATTHEW 24 CANNOT BE TALKING ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH: http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/our-top-5-reasons-why-matthew-24-cannot-be-talking-about-the-rapture-of-the-church/

          • David Kaus

            Hello Skywatcher

            Did you notice Geoffrey’s response to you ? No one ever stated that Matthew 24 referred to the Rapture of the Church. This guy is really confused, or just trying to confuse others into believing he has made a correct statement before, and now is taking a stand on it, some thing that was never in dispute.

            He promoted a works salvation during the Tribulation, he knows that and so does every one who has followed the postings on this matter. There was no dispute about the Rapture. He tried some thing of the same nature with Ted Cruz and his statement at AIPAC about Trump’s neutrality duplicity on Israel vs Palestinians.

          • Dan

            Sky, I believe Geoff like many strict dispensationalists ; doesn’t even try to understand how things will be

            after the rapture because the body of christ is with GOD and no longer here on earth.

            When I first discovered dispensationalism ; I also starting hearing the term “rightly dividing the bible”and I

            have to say in doing so ie: separating what was meant for the Jews and what was meant coming from Paul; for the

            church.Which works just fine until we come to the book of revelation. Strict dispensationalist I find usually

            don’t even want to discuss revelation because they believe the church is gone so they don’t. What I find is

            when hard pressed they will try to explain away anything that indicates that the church is still on earth or

            they will dismiss it with some scripture (like Geoff has done) which makes no sense because it doesn’t pertain to

            the subject ie” salvation by works or grace during the tribulation.

            I have always found it funny how after the rapture of the church (which they claim to be before the trib); they

            go tone deaf and literally have no viable explanation as to why salvation by grace no longer applies to those left behind other than to say “well you know It says Jacobs Trouble ” which mean only for Israel.

            It’s funny I’ve noticed with me; Geoff has a bad habit of during the conversation he just stops responding to the ongoing conversation if the opposing explanation is in contrast with his own and he either can’t defend his view so he disengages from the conversation or something else. But in his defense, I don’t know why he stops responding.

            For me, I’ve always thought the 144,000 were anointed with the holy spirit to witness to both the Jew and the gentile. Hence salvation by grace is alive and well during the tribulation.

      • Skywatcher

        Brother Geoffrey, thank you, for NOT hitting the “Leave a Reply” button so I could directly respond to you! That’s sad. I said to you,

        Skywatcher
        29 March 2016 at 12:39 pm
        Leave a Reply

        Brother Geoffrey, how can you believe that a Christian at any time can be saved by their own works? The “age of grace” has absolutely nothing to do with it. We have all “washed our sins away” in the blood of Jesus, merely by reaching out to Him in confession and asking for His forgiveness. That act is not a “work” anymore than having Him wash our sins away with His blood is. He did the work, on the cross, and we merely avail ourselves to His blood. He’s the One who baptizes us in His blood which is the protective covering.

        Your position flies in direct opposition to Eph. 2: 8,9,

        “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works lest any man should boast.”

        Titus 3: 5, “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6. Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus
        Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

        I’m sure I can find other refs. to support my position, but these should suffice. When we look into the O.T., grace was sufficient there, which strongly appears to have been based on obedience, rather than sacrifice, centuries before Christ spilled His blood for us. Now that Christ has sacrificed Himself, “once and for all”, that would also extend to the Tribulation saints and the saints of the Millennial reign of Christ. There could be no greater or other sacrifice, and we definitely know that no man’s works can parallel to the work Christ did on our behalf.

        I went a step further in my research before posting this, and for the life of me, I cannot find a single passage in God’s Word that declares that anybody apart from the G.T. saints even have a white robe. It’s nowhere to be found. I agree with you, we “receive the righteousness of Jesus Christ”, but nowhere does it say WE have “white robes”. At the transfiguration, it says that Christ’s robes were “white as snow”, but that in no way means ours will be too. Am I missing something?

        Brother Geoffrey, can you give me a Scripture reference that supports your “age of grace” defense, please?”

        Your reply:

        Geoffrey Grider
        29 March 2016 at 6:56 pm

        OUR TOP 5 REASONS WHY MATTHEW 24 CANNOT BE TALKING ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH: http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/our-top-5-reasons-why-matthew-24-cannot-be-talking-about-the-rapture-of-the-church/

        You toss this reply (link) out to me like a bone to a dog! You didn’t bother to answer or address my question at all. I KNOW Mt. 24 IS NOT talking about the Rapture! That wasn’t the issue. This was NOT an acceptable response, and I would think that you would want to respond accordingly, seeing that a number of your followers are getting miffed at your dismissive behavior as of late. What would Jesus want you to do?

        Now, when you calm down a little, would you please address the issue, once and for all? It’s not a difficult request and we would appreciate that. If you were wrong, kindly ‘fess up, and admit it. If I am wrong, I will do the same, as is my custom.

        • David Kaus

          Hello Brother Skywatcher

          Geoffrey Grider will not “fess up,” to any error, or falsely calling some one a liar. His leaven of deception is only getting worse, as you have noted he brings up a another issue to try to hide behind, and deceive others.

          Guess who he is fooling ??? ………….himself.

          1 John 1:9

          “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

          1 John 1:8

          “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

          And this:

          10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

          • Skywatcher

            Hey there, Brother David!

            It’s a little disheartening to see some of the things that are going on with this site. I jumped ahead and saw Geoff’s remark to you about cutting and pasting and that just blew me away. I’m starting to believe there are some of us here that he’d just as soon see go away.

            We’re trying to have dialogue with him, but for some reason, he doesn’t see the need to respond accordingly. I can only imagine how busy he is, but we could do with fewer posts and more of his heart on various matters.

            That’s just my opinion. I can only account to God for myself, and hope to be a good example for others. Sometimes, I too fail too. I’m not trying to make excuses for GG, but stating how it is for me. I do wish that he’d be more diligent about catching the spam or whatever it’s called, talking about screwdrivers, etc.! I’m sitting there reading the darned things, thinking there must be a connecting point here somewhere and there isn’t. I’d like to see those posts dumped from his end, into the trash bin.

            I have about 38 posts left to read now, so I’ll probably be in touch again real soon! God bless you, Bro!

          • David Kaus

            Hello Skywatcher

            As you have stated Geoffrey Grider has a lot on the table, and that might be part of the problem.

            I find that I have to limit myself in reading all/many post on this site. I couldn’t respond effectively to the post I do read and do other wise, and I want to give consideration as much as possible to what I do post before posting it.

            I have an educated rule of thumb I go by, as much as possible. I try to hold to a 50 (a reference number, not meant to be exact) to one ratio of input verses output. If the input isn’t there, save any attempt at an output, it doesn’t work, and leads to many mistakes. Better one thing done well than a thousand done hastily.

            2 Corinthians 10:5

            “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;”

    • Trober

      URL where NTEB says we are saved by our works?

      • carrierwave

        NTEB blatantly does teach that SAINTS during the Trbulation are “SAVED” (merit eternal life) by their works and not by FAITH in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB, the LORD JESUS, as it plainly says. READ GEOFFREY’s REPLY TO MY POST. Revelation 14:12 is not a verse about working for SALVATION–Geoffery says it is..

      • carrierwave

        Read what Geoffery said in reply to my post. He states Revelation 14:12 proclaims these SAINTS were SAVED (to merit eternal life) by their “works”. I challenge him to prove that from that verse,–or anywhere else in the Book of Revelation. He also claims “washing their robes and making them white in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB” means they “worked” their way to God’s throne–PREPOSTEROUS!, heresy! (See Revelation 7:14)

        Here is his quote: “LOL, Guess you didn’t read Revelation 7 closely. It says that they made their own robes white, THAT’S works.”

        No, Geoffery, THAT’S HERESY! I don’t think it’s “LOL” (funny) THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB made their robes WHITE.

        • DC

          OT–had to keep the law to be saved; no one could do it, for if you broke one part of the law you broke all of it. Sacrifices made at Temple for sin.

          NT–Jesus came to die for our sins; no more altar sacrifices to COVER our sins, but He TOOK AWAY our sins. Began the Age of Grace–saved by the Blood, not works.

          After the Rapture–back to the Law; Temple Sacrifices will get a reboot; you have to keep working for salvation–keep making sacrifices for your sin– and if you endure to the end, you’re saved.

          Be careful of whom you accuse heresy. Very dangerous game you’re playing.

          • tiptopsaidhe

            Temple sacrifices will get a reboot? If Christ is the final sacrifice necessary to redeem man back to God, what purpose would temple sacrifice serve?

          • DC

            The Church will be Raptured, so those who were saved by the Blood of Christ won’t be here. The Jews will be here and will rebuild the Temple—there are already articles about the building plans, the red heifer, the altar implements, etc. They will offer sacrifices again, until the Abomination of Desolation, when the Anti-Christ goes to the Temple and declares himself to be god. Many will accept Christ, though it’ll be too late for the Rapture and many will be killed by the AC–they are called Tribulation Saints.

          • tiptopsaidhe

            DC, without knowing, I will guess your allusion to an antichrist sitting in the temple refers to this scripture:

            2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
            2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
            2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
            2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
            2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

            If you will notice v7, Paul tells the Thessalonians that the iniquity is already at work, meaning this person was already sitting in the temple at the time of Paul’s writing. Paul had already told them who the person was, as he had received orders to persecute believers from him in Acts. He’s the keeper of the temple in Acts 4:1. He says in v6 that the Holy Spirit is restraining that person sitting in the temple (Annas). If the “antichrist” wasn’t already alive and not coming for another 2000 or 3000 or 5000 years, why would there be need for the Holy Spirit to restrain him?

            There won’t be another temple blessed by God, regardless of plans of men or heifers or ceremonial implements. He is finished with sacrifices. It would render Christ’s sacrifice useless. The people of God are those who believe by faith, as a gift from God. You are a son of Abraham by faith. There aren’t separate dispensations for jews and non-jews.

          • DC

            I think you are putting your own spin on things, which is similar to what Pete was doing. You were on that same page with us (the China/Japan one), so you’ve already seen the arguments for & against the Pre-Trip, GT, and AC, so I won’t reiterate here. I’ll just say that I don’t believe the man of sin has yet been revealed, although the spirit of Anti-Christ is already in the world, but the Holy Spirit is with us (Restrainer) for a time. It’s fine that we disagree, as long as it’s kept civil.

          • tiptopsaidhe

            DC, Paul made a nazarite vow at Cenchrea, an oath calling God to witness, in an effort to add credibility to his testimony to help his unbelieving Jewish brethren come to know Messiah. The Jews, in Paul’s time, didn’t believe he had met the resurrected Jesus alive, near Damascus. That vow, with God as witness, is to us also…that we may believe what Paul wrote in his letters is the truth. If Paul says the man of lawlessness was already at work and sitting in the temple, what does that say about us if we don’t want to believe him? If Paul was wrong about what he wrote to the believers in Thessalonica, what happens to the rest of his testimony?

            Shouldn’t one of our fundamentals of faith be that we believe what Jesus and the apostles said was actually the truth? If Jesus said those who heard his words, (“this generation,”) would see the Olivet prophecy fulfilled, and Jesus told Annas in Matt 26 that he would live to see Him coming in the clouds, and Paul said the man of lawlessness was already at work, shouldn’t we believe them?…and then ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit to adjust our ways of thinking to incorporate the truth of their words? The home page has an article about how the RCC has changed the resurrection from 3 days to 1.5 days, and we all shout a big “hoorah” for exposing the false teaching. Yet, we hold desperately to the RCC false teaching about end times. Why are we ok with exposing one for the betterment of believers, yet not the other?

        • Steve

          Agreed, Geoffrey has not discerned and taught the verse correctly. To make your robe white in the Lambs blood is to have a heart and attitude of repentance and faith that Christ is the only hope of salvation.

      • Jesus said in Matthew 24 that that if you wanted to be saved during the Tribulation you wold have to “endure to the end”. Enduring to the end is ABSOLUTELY works, 100%. Christians in the age of grace have no such command to endure to the end because our “end” became firmly fixed the day we got saved.

        “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;” Titus 3:5 (KJV)

        Why are works connected with salvation in the time of Jacob’s trouble? Because the Church, already taken out in the Rapture, is not here. The age of grace ENDS with the Rapture.

        • carrierwave

          This interpretation is simply outrageous. A simply reading of Matthew 24:1-13 in context with the verse 13 NOWHERE indicates “enduring to the end” means working for your salvation!! The subject is NOT SALVATION at all in Matthew 24:1 leading up to verse 13. Jesus Himself, states Salvation is NOT earned by working, but by FAITH, receiving “God’s “mercy” (grace) as a sinner!! see: Luke 18: 9-14 Just read the context of Matthew 24: says it all;–All hell is breaking loose on earth, the most horrible of all persecution, martydom, betrayals, and being “hated of ALL men FOR JESUS SAKE”, the “love of many shall wax cold”. Jesus is talking here to “believers”, not lost Jews “enduring” these things to have their souls saved!! There is a Millennial Kingdom coming soon after all these tribulations, where “living Jews” must enter to fulfill prophecy; Jesus here, simply tells those Jews who “endure” (to remain under, pass through) to the “END”- when Christ returns, they will be ushered into the Kingdom, ALIVE! “Endure” here is a Greek verb made of two words- one of which is a primary preposition, meaning a “position”, not a “toiling for merit”. Ignoring the context leads to “false doctrine”. J.Ws. use this same verse and reasoning as Geofffrey to make salvation by works! REPENT Geoffrey.

          • tiptopsaidhe

            Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

            Speaking of ignoring context…

            Is it your intent to portray Messiah as a liar and a false prophet by ignoring v34?

        • Steve

          Enduring to the end to me means living in the grace of God and the power of the Holy Spirit no matter what comes, the circumstances of life or the tribulation hour. Since God has promised to never leave us, we are able, if we choose, to endure ANYTHING to its end. This then, is not works, but the life of faith in Christ.

          • But that’s not what the passage says. In Matthew 24, enduring to the end is getting through the time of Jacob’s trouble without taking the Mark of the Beast. That’s the context of the passage.

      • Dan

        Bro. Skywatcher the book of revelations can be ambiguous; not you brother.

        • Skywatcher

          Hi, Brother Dan! I couldn’t respond directly to your post re: Geoffrey, dispensation and grace because there was no leave a reply after it. Anyway, as I stated before, any act of salvation for mankind is an act of faith and grace. It was this way in the O.T., in the N.T., and it will be that way again in the G.T. and Millennial reign.

          I consider myself a dispensationalist, but one has to know where to draw the line sometimes, and stick to correct theology. During the G.T. there will be both Jew and Gentiles making decisions to serve Christ, but they will have to lay their lives down for Him. As for salvation in the Millennial Reign, I’m not sure that is going to happen. I will need to go back and brush up on that part of my theology, because it’s not something I think about everyday. But right now, I’ve got about 40 posts to catch up on! Don’t you let me off the hook! I’ll get to the bottom of this; I know the One in charge! 🙂

  • Can someone please tell me why I cannot see other’s post after I make a commnet? Never had this problem before on the blog, but now am exsperiencing this on ALL THREADS?

    • DC

      That has to be frustrating, Roland. It hasn’t happened to me, but there definitely have been some quirks experienced by everyone. I’m not much of a techie, but have you tried refreshing the page? Otherwise, be patient; several here know what they’re doing and will respond when they get caught up in the new posts.
      Good luck.
      DC

      • Thanks for the reply DC: Seems now it’s working again, someone must have fixed it!

  • Kiwiwatcher

    The same Glenn Beck that gushed over false prophet Jonathan Cahn……figures

    • Trober

      amen

    • Estrella de David

      Glenn Beck, if I had to decide on what he is, I probably would be more inclined tobelieve he is a je-ui/it operative…

      You should have seen the amount of je/-suitas present when the Pope was here in Michoacan… Rumors have it that they got together, probably at some secluded area in the pine forest, to most likely have a “luce/eri-an get-together- to celebrate their soon enslaving and positioning of the world at the feet of the Vatican…

      Trump is seen as a major threat by these heartless luce/-eri/an globalists…

    • David Kaus

      And a false, self professed, prophet Jonathan Cahn truly is Kiwiwatcher, black attire, Kabbalah teachings, and all.

  • Anon

    “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8. Our God is God, and praise Him, because He is in full control of all things that happen in this fallen world. Everything will be as it is written. God bless you all.

    • GRACE

      amen Anon, God’s blessing to you as well

  • Jackie Wiencus

    Not once in the embedded video does Beck mention Cruze or the white horse prophecy. Is there a link to a video in which he does indeed say this?

  • crystal

    As a ex-Mormon who was born and raised in the CULT of Mormonism, it made me sick to my stomach and spirit as well to hear Beck talk about how he discovered Mormonism to be “true”. Obviously Mr. Beck does not know the REAL history behind the false prophet Joseph Smith. Joe Smith was one of the biggest con mans the world has ever seen, and started one of the biggest mega cults in the world. Smith was an adulterer, liar, fraud, and has almost 60 false prophecies attached to his name. He fails the simple test of a prophet given to us in the book of Deuteronomy.

    There are so many nice people stuck in this Mormon deception, and it is truly heart breaking. So glad I am no longer stuck in the BIG lie of Mormonism. I belong to Christ and Christ alone. I no longer put my faith and trust in the arm of flesh, I put my entire faith in Christ alone.

    • DC

      Thank you for your unique perspective, Crystal. I’ve read The 19th Wife and learned a lot from it, but no one can tell it like someone who’s been there! 🙂

    • Appreciate your testimony, thank you 🙂

    • Skywatcher

      Crystal, that was a wonderful testimony! Thank you, so very much for sharing that with us! There’s nobody like an insider who can really tell it like it is! However, I find even then, there are still skeptics. God is sooo good, and I’m glad you have chosen the real Jesus Christ and are my sister in Him! Have others of your family left the cult too? God bless you!

    • Heather

      It’s sad that these people have been so brainwashed that they even listen to this quack G Beck.

      • DC

        Heather, he used to be good, as Sam Fox noted above. I used to watch him daily on FOX. He gave a lot of history lessons of our country’s founding fathers who gave, “their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor,” as he quoted many times. He was a lot like William J. Federer who has the “Faith in History” program. It was from Beck that I learned a lot about the Cloward & Piven scheme to take down the country financially to usher in a NWO, Bill Ayers, and a lot of others who manipulate the people to bring us down. Beck was a true patriot. Like Sam said, I don’t know what happened to him. He converted to Mormonism; maybe he’s more deeply into it now and it’s taken hold of him.

        Lord, please help Glenn Beck and others who have been influenced by cults come to see the Truth of Your saving Grace. In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

    • Estrella de David

      Praise YESHUA-JESUS Sister Crystal!!!!!! What beautiful things our LORD JESUS truely does!!!!

      Saved me from Catholicism… a satanic idol worshipping deviation of true Christianity that had enslaved my Sephardic Jewish Mexican Brothers and Sisters for hundreds of years here in this country…

    • GRACE

      Praise the Lord Jesus, Crystal, God bless you 🙂 You are a testimony to those who need freed from this false religion. Beck is deceived and deceiving others, I pray his eyes are opened to the one and only true Christ, the lines of faith are becoming blurred by ppl preaching another gospel than faith in the One and only True Savior Jesus Christ, this is why we are hearing more and more we all serve the same God which is a LIE, they think the more they say something over and over, the more it becomes a reality to ppl but praise to the Lamb of God for we know He alone is Lord and Savior and there is none else besides Him.

  • Rich

    Man the REACHING going on with this site to demonize Cruz is astonishing. The same site which has officially endorsed Donald Trump and praising everything he does. Yes Mormonism is a cult but so is some of this Trump support. Beck has supported Cruz for years. They are friends. I’m sure they have had discussions about their faith (hey something no one has ever had a discussion with Trump over). But everything Geoffrey you post about Cruz are only “implications” about other people’s beliefs. His dad and dominionism. Beck and Mormonism. Another pastor and what he said about gays. None of this has been explained by Ted himself. Could you post a link to Ted Cruz’s defense of religious liberty and his record of supporting Israel 100%? Where are those articles? As a bible believing Christian you would want people to make the most educated decision right? Could you post a link to Cruz walking out of Christian conference as a key note speaker because they booed him when he said to stand with Israel? How about a link to him standing up on principle during the filibuster of Obamacare while Trump was praising it? What about an a link quoting Trump literally thinking of incest with his daughter? What about what he has said about Carly Fiorina’s face or comparing Carson to a child molester? Where are those articles? The fact that these aren’t shared is what is called a allegiance to a CULT of personality. Love this site but you are driving me nuts with the anti-Cruz stuff. Trump gets my vote if Cruz can’t do it but Geoffrey please take the time to do some research on the candidates and not just using emotion driven articles aimed to demonize someone.

    • Estrella de David

      But,ok… let’s say that all these things are true…what you say… I just want you to answer this question for me: and his ties with the Bushes, but,most importantly, what´s upwith his wife involved in the CFR?

      C´mon… take your time, give me your best shot at trying to explain that away…. I think SOMEONE said once that “By their fruits you shall know them”….

    • Sam Fox

      Rich, IF you want the truth about Cruz, look up

      Kelleigh Nelson On Ted Cruz

      She takes Cruz to the bone & shows what a phony RINO-CINO he is.

      Also at NewsWithViews.com look up Ted Cruz. Many of the writers there are Christians.

      Rich, ask yourself “If Ted is really an outsider & non-establishment, why is Trump the only one Spooky Dude Soros paying thugs to attack? Why isn’t Ted also under the same attack?”

      Yeah, Trump has some big warts. No one is saying he’s the Messiah. I doubt he’s even saved. So what? We are not electing the Minister In Chief. We need a brawler like Trump to take on the establishment. The DEEP ROOTED NWO establishment it appears has enlisted Soros to attack Trump. Soros himself is NWO & deep into the New World Order.

      Trump threatens the INTERNATIONAL Illuminati, not just the good old boy cronyism as found in US govt.

      Mercy! I have found so much that would make you turn on Cruz in a heart beat that I can’t remember it all. I’m going to have to start a list. Remember, Trump has now has all the right enemies. If the NWO, CINO RNC & Clinton super pac fringe media doesn’t like Donald, he can’t be all bad.

      SamFox

    • lioness

      thanks so much and God bless Rich.Geoffrey is DT propaganda minister and this has becoming DT campaign site.

  • Trober

    ” If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.”
    Isa 8:20

    However, the mainstream commentary description of the four horsemen are wrong as well. The Book of Daniel was not unsealed in the time most of them got their ideas of what those horsemen are: They are sequential revelations on Who Jesus Christ is, not plagues, wars etc. Time will prove that. 🙂

  • Patti

    The message that Beck delivered was delivered to MORMON audience. It was not intended for the entire world. Why do you care what the Mormons believe. Ted Cruz is not a Mormon. He has a friend who is. BIG DEAL. Get over it!

    • Sam Fox

      Patti, the issue is much larger. Heidi Cruz wrote, regarding the formation of the North American Union, [the 1st part is from an article at WorldNetDaily, followed by Heidi’s written comment].

      “On pages 33-34 of CFR’s “Building a North American Community,” Heidi Cruz wrote a paragraph included under “Additional and Dissenting Views” that contended economic investment must be led by the private sector rather than government:

      ‘I support the Task Force report and its recommendations aimed at building a safer and more prosperous North America. Economic prosperity and a world safe from terrorism and other security threats are no doubt inextricably linked. While governments play an invaluable role in both regards, we must emphasize the imperative that economic investment be led and perpetuated by the private sector. There is no force proven like the market for aligning incentives, sourcing capital, and producing results like financial markets and profit-making businesses. This is simply necessary to sustain a higher living standard for the poorest among us – truly the measure of our success. As such, investment funds and financing mechanisms should be deemed attractive instruments by those committing the capital and should only be developed in conjunction with market participants.’

      Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-again-battles-globalist-charge-against-wife/#ZbIVTqUEATujLpIs.99

      Heidi helped WRITE the NAU. Her quote above is supposed to be a ‘dissenting view”refutation’ of the NAU according to her defenders. Notice her 1st sentence, “I support…” what the NAU task force wrote & their call for a North American Union. She refuted nothing! She called for $ issues to have the private sector involved, which is not a refutation at all.

      Anyone thinking the NAU’s ‘private sector’ won’t be filled with big business cronies & will not be under a central govt’s control has a lot to learn.

      Ted called the CFR a den of vipers. Remember what he did to Ben Carson? For openers. At this time Ted Cruz is doing a fairly good job of presenting himself as a conservative. So did GWB, B Clinton, 0…& many Congress members like Rubio. But they did not stay the same person that campaigned after they were elected. They flipped on US.

      For more info on pernicious Cruz, look up

      Kelleigh Nelson On Ted Cruz

      SamFox

    • Skywatcher

      Patti, we care about what the Mormons believe because they are an extremely powerful cult that is leading millions of precious souls into a lost eternity. Many non-Mormons follow Glen Beck, and his influence may pull them into the whirlpool of eternal damnation. It is the role of Bible Christians to present the lies and deceptions of darkness, lest we be condemned for not trying to get the truth out to them. The Mormons are like a team of horses trying to run away from the burning coach they’re pulling; wherever they go, they leave little fires that ignite, causing more death and destruction.

      These people are very dear people, who are believing very cleverly crafted and delivered lies. Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible died for them, as well as for all others they’re attempting to reach for their created Jesus Christ. Their Jesus Christ is man-made and not the Creator of all things. Did you look at the missionary cartoon link? That is an extremely important bite of information for those who are not familiar with Mormonism.

      So you see, this is why we care what they believe. For Ted Cruz to even want their endorsement is an act of apostasy, as has already been said. He won’t cry out against them because votes mean more to him than immortal souls. That, my friend, is a very loud and clear testimony that does NOT bring honor or glory to the Lord Jesus Christ, Whom he is supposed to be following and representing. We cannot call ourselves Christians and then cherry pick the passages of the Bible that we like and omit those that don’t meet our needs or defend our positions of error.

      Ephesians 5: 6-8 should be one of Cruz’s mandates, as well as our own: “Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7. Be not ye partakers with them. 8. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light.”

      The way I see it, no matter who gets elected for the potty seat, the USA and the world is in mighty serious trouble. Trump isn’t a Christian, nor does he profess to be one, yet, he may be the man that God is allowing to rise up for a time such as this. However, Cruz professes to be a Christian, but does things and agrees with policies that are meant to harm the “citizens of the world”, rather than to do them good. He is acting out in disobedience to God, and therefore with that, comes correction. Either way, N. America is coming under God’s judgment, if it hasn’t come under it yet.

      Not to worry though; none of this is catching God by surprise, nor many of us. We knew His correction and judgment had to come sometime, and we also knew that there would have to be a falling away from the faith before Christ comes. Whether we live or die through this judgment, either way we win! We may not like the battle we currently find ourselves in, or even in the future, but we still win! Jesus Christ Himself, taught us over 2,000 years ago, that by dying we win!

  • Al

    Sorry to break it to all of you, but whether or not Beck, Cruz or Trump… they are not the Antichrist, this is not the end of the world.America is never mentioned in bible except “isles of the seas” which would include any country far away from the middle east & not physically connected to it, like the land of Gog, the east, etc: so lets not get start reading biblical events into a fairly local political process whoever important it may seem to yall. It is not that big a deal as far as the end of days. Yes! it would be great to have an honest man running the country & I think maybe Trump might be the guy, unfortunately he is rude, loud, a bragger among other things , so it is not easy to like him sometimes, although he seems to have a big heart & be a decent guy underneath the bravado.

  • Al

    works are the proof of our faith…. James….but we are never saved by works .. if that is what NTEB teaches then they are as bad as Mormonism which is what they teach salvation by works.

    • Douglas mallo

      Nice one thanks ur statement is an eye opener God bless you.

  • This should be the least of our concerns with every thing else considered.

    But that’s just me.

  • Estrella de David

    Three letters: CFR…. that is all I need to know about Cruz….

    ¡Viva Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • loz

    This site is right on track , Glen he’s whatever but he was right about George soros, things are happening fast here people, I’m wondering about this big movement by both parties to stop trump, now that’s scary cause trump is it people, he’s all were going to get! If we don’t start sticking together about this hillary will win, because she’s Satan’s first pick! Lol 🙂

  • Sue

    As a Christian, I would rather see someone that is not a Christian act non-Christian than to see someone who professes to be a Christian act non-Christian. Ted Cruz has not acted like a Christian and therefore he will not receive my vote.

    • GRACE

      I agree with you Sue, there is no pretense there, they are who they are, I hate pretense and God hates it! Be cold or hot but lukewarm will certainly get you spit out of Jesus mouth for a cold person knows he or she is cold and there’s a chance of reaching that one and the best is to be hot for the Lord for they want what His will is in all things. Cruz has been caught lying on more than one occasion and he deflects from answering questions he doesn’t want to answer, another way of being dishonest. Ask any criminal profiler, he will tell you that a dishonest person will deflect the questioner into another direction with nonsense, it is deceptive and Cruz is a master at it. And Cruz is obviously a mason which is not a Christian, all those on the inside are high degree masons, a part of the club, he appears as an outsider but that is part of the deception too, to fool ppl. You don’t see them going after him, masons will not attack other masons and Cruz has given the hand signals that he is a mason, he’s done it on the debate stage. IMHO, there is more of a chance of God reaching Trump and saving him than Cruz who claims to be a Christian but is not and even if Trump isn’t saved, he imo has been honest in what he says, might not be my way but it might be just what is needed at this time, only God knows. I honestly don’t want to vote for any of them but it seems as I pray I keep coming back to voting for Trump, I don’t understand why but I trust in God to help me make the right decision according to His will not mine. I’m not saying I like what I see but it’s not about me, it’s about what the will of the Lord is in my life. I will vote Trump or not at all as I see it right now and I am praying God give me complete peace that if I vote Trump that it is because I want to obey His will, I will not be told by anyone but the Lord what to do and I will not be condemned by anyone for who I vote or don’t vote at all. It is between the Lord and I. Also, I am not going to get caught up in the anger and hostility going on right now, that is coming from hell, those haughty elites love that chaos and never let a crisis go to waste they say but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord God of Peace, Truth and Love. God bless you Sue and keep you He will, no one can pluck you out of His hands.

  • MG

    Glen Beck is what some call, a truther…he works for the elites…seems like he is on the people’s side but he’s not…he’s just as crazy as the rest of them. Hope no one was deceived by this guy…:|

    • Skywatcher

      MG, it appears a great many have already been deceived by him.

  • GRACE

    Have you noticed they don’t mess with these like Beck or others stirring up this stuff, if they wanted to they’d take them out in a heartbeat and make it look like suicide, that’s been happening to ppl for awhile now, they are fear mongers, liars, the luciferians have been working both sides and sucking ppl in. Trust in no man, blessed is the man or woman who trusts solely in Christ Jesus and follows Him, stick to the Bible.

  • GRACE

    Deception runs deep in this world and the rabbit hole goes wayyyyyyyy down but we who trust in the Lord need not be troubled or afraid for we have His Holy Word and His Holy Spirit to lead us into all the truth and no one can snatch the believer out of His hands. God bless His Saints in Christ Jesus. Yahweh, I Am that I Am is His Name! Even if we be led like lambs to the slaughter or raptured out of here, we are His, we have made our decision, no man or demon can take what God has done for us away. To the King of Kings be all glory, honor and praise forever!

    • Skywatcher

      Good morning, all! Grace, your posts are simply amazing! Everything you say is truth and very encouraging! I thank God for the insight He has so graciously given you! You’re on top of your game! God bless you, for having the Holy Ghost boldness to speak it out with love, clarity, and sincerity!

  • Dan

    Geoff, I think you’re saying that Beck believes that Cruz will fulfill that particular part of the White horse prophecy; right?

    • Yes, Beck absolutely believes that, and has said it multiple times now. What is astonishing to me is that Ted Cruz, a Christian, hears all this and allows it to be said on his behalf. So the ONLY conclusion you can come to is that he agrees with it. If YOU were running for president and I was campaigning for you and said stuff like that about you, would you continue to allow me to do it?

      • Dan

        No, I would correct you, and you are right so far Cruz has not made a peep about it and that was 2 days ago.

        But, because of the deplorable state the church is in Cruz will be able to let Beck say what he will on the grounds of

        that being his belief and not Cruz’s.

        Maybe, Alex Jones will call him out during one of his broadcasts.

      • Steve

        Geoffrey, Ted Cruz is not responsible for everything said about him. This is a completely sensational position you are making. If they are not against you then they are for you. He won with 70 percent of the Utah vote. Even if he renounced Beck, it would not have changed the outcome. If an atheist votes for Ted, is that ok? Of course, but you may well say that Ted should not take the vote?

  • Bill

    This article misses the reality that you can either vote for Cruz (a believer in Christ – irregardless of differences in doctrine) or get someone who doesn’t live by christian values at all!

    Trump – better than Hillary or Bernie! – Owns strip clubs, and in many other ways does not live a faith centered life.

    Let’s not repeat the mistake we made last election cycle – and end up with someone farther away from good Christian values because we can’t see the greater good in a candidate (or see that WE, by dividing our vote will end up with someone more far worse!

    • Let me ask you, from God’s perspective, do you think that He is more against “strip clubs” or more against people who teach false cultic doctrine? When I read my bible, it would seem that God is way more angry at false teachers than nearly any other group of people. Ted Cruz is a funny kind of Christian who has Mormons, teaching Mormon doctrine, while campaigning for him. You do realize that, right? Glenn Beck is not simply a Mormon campaigning for Cruz. Beck is TEACHING Mormon doctrine WHILE campaigning for Cruz. How do you possibly justify that?

      Donald Trump is an unsaved man who does what unsaved men do. Ted Cruz, on the other hand, seems to be a Christian in name only who is slyly force-feeding his followers Mormon doctrine. I cannot support such a person.

      • Steve

        You can’t support Ted because someone shared their personal beliefs while campaigning for him? You are against Ted Cruz because someone else is deceived? The deceived don’t know they’re deceived!!! Do you think Glenn Beck is thinking “I know! I will lie like Joseph Smith to lead a all these people to hell on purpose!” Of course not. Quite frankly, Glenn Beck is no more sensational about his views than you come across with yours. Give some grace please.

        Ps- who are you supporting for president since you are so public about whom you’re not?

    • Pistol Peter

      Whale halo thar, Bill! Why don’t you read some of the past posts referrin’ to the kind of “Christianity Cruz represents? Y’all don’t have a real Bible-believin’ Christian in the whole darned litter! A Tasmanian devil is a Tasmanian devil, no matter what color suit ya put on ’em or banner ya fly o’er his head.

      Ya know that Cruz is deeply rooted into the CFR and much more of the devil’s business, so thar ya have it. Ya aint foolin’ nobody but yerself, if ya believe he’s the answer to America’s problems. His Christianity is a false front. All ye can hope for now is that yer not tradin’ the witch in fer da devil. Ya certainly don’t want to be gettin’ the Witch of Endor for president, or yer goin’ to the gallows or guillotine for bein’ a real Christian. After pickin’ the wheat out of the corn, I think we’re all goin’ thar, no matter who wins this ‘lection…if Jesus doesn’t pluck us out, like a brand from the fire! Either one is possible, so don’t continue to naively believe ya have a genuine Christian to elect; thar aint none! I don’t mean no offense, but truth is truth, no matter how ya slice it.

      So what if Trump has strip clubs? He don’t profess to be no serious Christian. Cruz professes to be such and is all for poisonin’ his own countrymen through Monsanto! Where’s a soft conscience thar, my friend? Where is the love of God or obedience to His Wordin’ that says “Thou shalt not kill”? I’m just dumb enough to believe that says we should not be murderin’. I see a “no” vote as your only Christian option if yer that sure fired up for wantin’ a Christian leader on the “potty seat”, as Skywatcher calls it. We all know what happens when a person gets on the potty and means to do business…we are waitin’ ducks below the thang who will be needin’ an intervention of the Most High to clean us up from that mess!

  • When Mormon “elders” come to my door, I don’t argue, I ask them for a photocopy of the 1830 book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, Author. (NOT Joseph Smith, translator) I never hear from them again. I think my house is blacklisted.

  • Jim

    Nothing in the video or SLTrib article mentions Cruz affirming the LDS church or Glenn naming Cruz the, “White Horse”.

    This election is about restoring the constitution. The constitution protects religious liberty. The right to believe as we choose. As a Christian I respect your constitutional right to believe and worship as you choose.

  • Laura L

    “Then if anyone tells you,’Look, here is the Messiah’, or ‘There he is’, don’t believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.” Matthew 24: 23-24

    Again I say, don’t get involved in foolish, ignorant arguments that only start fights. A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people’s hearts, and they will learn the truth. Then they will come to their senses and escape from the devil’s trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants. 2 Timothy 2:23-26

  • Elaine

    Ted Cruz and Glenn Beck are friends. Remember when they went together to welcome the illegal immigrants at the fence-less border and hand out Teddy Bears & soccer balls.

    Perhaps these videos will enlighten you.

    Watch the full video of Beck’s rally remarks below:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/19/glenn-beck-rallies-for-cruz-in-utah-quotes-mormon-prophecy-body-of-the-priesthood-will-stand-up-when-the-constitution-hangs-by-a-thread-i-bel/

    Glenn Beck: Failure to Elect Ted Cruz Will Leave Us With Blood on Our Hands
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/18/glenn-beck-failure-to-elect-ted-cruz-will-leave-us-will-blood-on-our-hands-
    see-more-at-http://www-rightwingwatch-orgcontentglenn-beck-failure-elect-ted-cruz-will-leave-us-will-blood-our-handsst/
    [Article and video at above URL]

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/cruz-campaign-fasting-children-brought-on-stage-this-is-the-priesthood-rising/

    God Bless

  • gigi

    This is exactly why I blasted Max Lucado, Steve Strange owner of Charisma Magazine, Dr. Michael L. Brown and others, all who condemned Trump and praised Ted Cruz. And it is exactly why Jesus said in the last days that in the “Synagogues of Satan their will be “Doctrines of Demons.” We MUST “STAY IN THE SCRIPTURES” and know Jesus for ourselves because the Laodecian church and its Apostate Pastors who are NOT Ezekiel 33 Watchmen are going to have some explaining to do when they stand before the judgment seat of Christ for leading His sheep down the wrong path.

    So grateful that when Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice and WILL NOT FOLLOW ANOTHER” I never followed any of these apostates. I pray to the Holy Spirit and He directs my path. Left the organize church about a year ago and now meet with a small and growing group of people who Love Jesus, pray and receive wisdom and spiritual revelation in the knowledge of Him. Praise be to God

  • Wendy

    I have not taken the time tonight to read all of this story’s comments, so perhaps this has been already covered.
    BUT…I have a big problem with Cruz’s past record on God’s money (I don’t know if anything has changed in the last 4 years) and totally agree with Huckabee’s position!

    http://joemiller.us/2016/01/one-of-ted-cruzs-opponents-just-called-him-out-over-1-thing-no-one-else-is-talking-about/

  • Trober

    I used to like Glenn Beck, but now he is outright dangerous for the USA.

  • Dale

    Geoffrey, I have followed you site for years now and have appreciated many if not most of what you have relayed to people concerning Biblical meanings. However, I am taken aback by your theology concerning those saved during the tribulation. I 100% agree with Carierwave. There is only one way by which man can be saved…and that is by faith. There is a list of O.T. believers posts in the Book of Hebrews. All of them are highlighted because of their “faith”. No one enters the kingdom based on works. You are subscribing to the Catholic interpretation.
    I would ask that you read 3 passages again…Matt. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Notice the differences especially with Luke 21. The first two is Jesus speaking to a Jewish audience and in Luke He is speaking to the Gentiles audience. Notice the their words “before” and “during” used in these texts. When the term “elect” is used, He is referring to the Jews, not the saved.
    Yes, there are a great many saved during the Tribulation…these are the ones who do not take the mark of the beast. They place their trust, by faith, in Jesus.
    For all the great work you have done with your web site it is a shame you have began teaching something contrary to the Word of God.
    The Tribulation is mainly for the sake of the Jews (Dan. 9). Don’t you believe they will repent and trust in their Messiah…or do they also gain the kingdom by works as you are stating? The religious Jews today believe in a works based theology. They are wrong!
    God’s plan has always been about “faith”!

    • Dan

      Dale, you’ve been following Geoff for years and you’re just now realizing Geoff’s a dispensationalist?

      Geoff believes the body of christ will no longer be here during the tribulation hence the body’s gone and so is grace.

      I have trouble with this belief myself even though I like dispensationalism. The truth is we don’t really know how the

      end will play out, but what we do know is our salvation is by grace and to me nothing else matters.

      I prefer to believe; even during the tribulation we are saved by grace. The difference however may be it could

      cost someone their life for professing to be Christian.

      Imagine being in a cage covered in gasoline only to be set on fire!

      • Well we do KNOW that the Tribulation is called the TIME OF JACOBS TROUBLE for a reason, because it’s all about Israel and the Jews and has NOTHING to do with the Church.

        • Dan

          True Jacob is the father of the 12 tribes and is an indication of Israel , but what will happen with the 144,000

          bondservants of GOD ? Each of them will have GOD’s seal. GOD’s seal in the NT means the

          Holy spirit(Ephesians 1:13,14, 4:30, 2 Corin 1:2 and 5:5 and John 6:27. All these Jews will have a visible mark on

          their foreheads Rev 7:3.

          I believe they will be bringing people to Jesus during this time and they will be filled with the holy spirit.

          If that is the case then the holy spirit must still be indwelling new believers during this time. The 144,000 will

          be Jews for Jesus! Spreading the gospel!

          Granted other people may interpret scripture differently but that’s my point; we really don’t know because what I’ve

          said is just as plausible.

  • lynn

    I was a Mormon for forty years , I was raised in the church since I was eight years old..I was brainwashed..to believe in Joseph Smith as a prophet. Joseph was a magician and a member of the Illuminati and the Masons this was before he decided to write the BOM..and before his proclaimed VISION..there is no proof he had a vision from God..and the Moroms believe that God, Christ and the Holy Ghost is all separate beings..that is not what the Bible says..and if you good life here on earth you can be a God or Goddess when you go to Heaven…and the men can have as many wife’s in Heaven as they want…THIS IS ALL CONTRADICTED FROM THE KJV OF THE BIBLE….I have been retired for two years now and have investigated this so thoroughly..The are evil..now I am not saying the people are not good people..they are just brainwashed….dont know any better…some of their morals are good…..But I am no longer a Mormon as This year..I relinquished my membership after long praying and reading and fact checking all I could..I am free now..What a breath of fresh air.. Beck is a sick man…..Cruz is not a Mormon…There are no other prophets after the Bible ended in Revolutions…In which the Mormons have a living prophet of today… which is a false prophet…..They change the rules of the church doctrine as they want too…Not from a vision from God..They are one of the richest churches along with the Catholics..think about this…..NEW ONE ORDER….CONTROL…BRAINWASH..I truly believe the Antichrist is the Pope..or will be deemed as the Antichrist..When Christ comes back… He will take care of all these rich elites and evil people..right now they have alot of control as you can see…please read Revelations..thoroughly.. Put your shields on and be ready for Christ’s army…..Love you all….sorry I wanted to say this..in hope to open some peoples eye.

    • Heather

      Amen Lynn! The Lord led you to the truth and you were willing. What is disturbing is when those who have appeared to have known the truth to begin with, but allow themselves to be led into these cults. I could be wrong but it seems to me this is what happened with Glen Beck.

      Thank you for speaking out and sharing your testimony. God bless you Lynn….

    • gigi

      Amen, Lynn. Thank you so much for your testimony. Jesus says many are called, few are chosen. You have been chosen because when the Father drew you to Him, you answered. God Bless You and may our relationship with the TRUE Jesus Christ continue to prosper as we walk in his “good, acceptable and perfect Will.” Narrow is the gate and few will find it. You have found it praises be to the Most High God, Jehovah.

  • I agree with Crystal;;;I was a Mormon for forty years , I was raised in the church since I was eight years old..I was brainwashed..to believe in Joseph Smith as a prophet. Joseph was a magician and a member of the Illuminati and the Masons this was before he decided to write the BOM..and before his proclaimed VISION..there is no proof he had a vision from God..and the Moroms believe that God, Christ and the Holy Ghost is all separate beings..that is not what the Bible says..and if you good life here on earth you can be a God or Goddess when you go to Heaven…and the men can have as many wife’s in Heaven as they want…THIS IS ALL CONTRADICTED FROM THE KJV OF THE BIBLE….I have been retired for two years now and have investigated this so thoroughly..The are evil..now I am not saying the people are not good people..they are just brainwashed….dont know any better…some of their morals are good…..But I am no longer a Mormon as This year..I relinquished my membership after long praying and reading and fact checking all I could..I am free now..What a breath of fresh air.. Beck is a sick man…..Cruz is not a Mormon…There are no other prophets after the Bible ended in Revolutions…In which the Mormons have a living prophet of today… which is a false prophet…..They change the rules of the church doctrine as they want too…Not from a vision from God..They are one of the richest churches along with the Catholics..think about this…..NEW ONE ORDER….CONTROL…BRAINWASH..I truly believe the Antichrist is the Pope..or will be deemed as the Antichrist..When Christ comes back… He will take care of all these rich elites and evil people..right now they have alot of control as you can see…please read Revelations..thoroughly.. Put your shields on and be ready for Christ’s army…..Love you all….sorry I wanted to say this..in hope to open some peoples eye.

    • Skywatcher

      Lynn Gregory, thank you, so very much for that testimony! 40 years! That’s a mighty long time!!! I always get excited when I hear that another dear soul has found the real Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible!

      Tell me, please, how does one lead a Mormon to Christ? Do you have any pointers? I was witnessing to a couple of missionary elders last fall. I showed them a DVD that proved Joseph Smith was a false prophet as none of his prophecies came to pass, etc.. After it was all over, it was very evident that one of them was clearly touched by what he had just seen. His eyes teared up. The other was very rigid and adamant that “nothing can change my position!”

      I would love to know the way to “land the fish” for Jesus! If you can help, that would be awesome!

      Thank you, and God bless you!!!

  • Johnny Ward

    Want the skinny on Glenn Beck? Yahoo “FACTS FROM MORMONS.”

  • Radio program by Brannon Howse (link below):

    Topic: At at Ted Cruz rally with Cruz present Glenn Beck said the following: “I want to speak to you about something that may be controversial. And it’s not something that I have said when I have been out for Ted and now Mike [Lee]. But it’s something that this crowd needs to hear – that Utah needs to hear. The body of the priesthood is known to stand up when the Constitution hangs by a thread…“I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints,” he explained. “What attracted me was not only the truth of the message, but also the people like President [Harold B.] Lee and President [Ezra Taft] Benson who knew exactly who we were – knew who we were as a country,” Topic: Hear audio of Ezra Taft Benson describing Mormon theology and eschatology as it relates to America. Topic: Lots of religious groups from the Church of Rome to The Church of Latter Day Saints to the New Apostolic Reformation, such groups are working with politicians to apparently take world dominion.

    http://media.worldviewweekend.com/sites/default/files_wvw.com/audio_legacy/367a8c436c9cfbc3c8b86d6f448a2ca3287e3ab3c848f7eb8b8968ce15b3b523.mp3

    • DC

      Another great source is facebook.com.johnmcternansinsights or his blog defendproclaimthefaith.org/blog

      He said to people pointing out that Beck didn’t outright call Cruz the person of the White Horse prophecy, it was definitely implied by the “controversial” comment you already gave and that Mormons would know what he was talking about.

      Incidentally, Cruz won Utah…

  • Steve

    Geoffrey-

    I’m sorry, but you are a drama maniac. If you cared about how deceived Mormons are, why are you judging and bashing? Ok, so there’s ALOT of cult like elements and deception in their beliefs, now what? This?? You my brother need to learn to share truth with love; you come across as an absolute sensationalist the way you write your articles. You are doing very little good here in my estimation. I grew up 17 years in the Mormon church, and thank God I now know the Lord and am born again. Satan has laid a burden of works and self condemning unattainable performance standards on these poor people who God created and loves. We had a Mormom family walk into our church this past weekend praise God. You don’t think the Holy Spirit is moving in false churches to save those people? How powerful is the blood of Jesus? All powerful!!!!

    Much of this site, while very on-topic and current in terms of its headlines, departs from the grace of God when I read the articles and commentary.

  • Skywatcher

    Check this out! The USA has more Billy Graham-like evangelistic outreaches…with the same nasty outcome: many making commitments to Christ, but being sent back to their derelict and spiritually dark churches in many cases! Of course, the Southern Baptist Convention, many of them traitors who’ve defected to the pope, have their dirty hands in the mix!

    http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=205

  • Dale

    Concerning Matt. 24…read the whole section. Then read about the separation of the sheep and goats. Jesus will usher in those who have been saved into His kingdom and they are in their earthly bodies. They repopulate the earth. The goats go to Sheol and await the Great White Throne Judgment. All of this is described in Rev. 19 and 20.
    Only people who have trusted in Jesus THROUGH FAITH will enter into the Kingdom of God…ONLY ONE WAY!

  • Laura

    Why is Ted Cruz called “lying Ted”? What are the lies that he told? I already know that he is using associations/promotions with cultists and false teachers to gain votes.

  • Calvin Dixon

    I have read most of the post and find them to be mostly pertaining to the political state of America; which I believe to be corrupt and un Godly.
    I find it troubling that I can let a lot of what I read and see on FaceBook anger me and even cause me to make comments that I really don’t mean. I have even gone back and deleted some of the hateful comments that I have posted and asked God to forgive me for letting my anger get the best of me. Yeshua, “Jesus”, said to LOVE your enemies. Well I’ve failed Him there. I don’t have all the answers and I’m no Bible scholar; but I believe the Bible (KJV) is the inspired Holy word of Almighty God. I believe Yeshua “Jesus Christ” was born of a virgin, that He is the Son of God (God in the flesh as a man) That He willingly laid down His life for my sins and was raised from the dead on the third day. He sits at the right hand of God the Father now in Heaven and That the Holy Spirit is in the world today guiding Christians and leading people to repentance. A lot of the post are about Mormons and their beliefs. I from reading just my KJV of the Bible recognize Mormonism as a cult. Read about the 1857 Mountain Meadow massacre where the Mormons murdered 120 innocent pioneers for crossing Utah on their way to a better life in California. Men, women, and children were cold bloodily murdered. Yes I think Mormon’s are deceived and I pray that they will come to realize this. Let’s face it; America is in trouble. Not just America, the whole world is in trouble. You have the spread of Islam; which is of Satan wanting to rule the world and kill anyone that doesn’t accept Allah as god. News flash: Allah is not god. There is only one GOD and He is the GOD of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. He is the GOD of the living and He came to this earth as a man named Yeshua “Jesus Christ” to be crucified for my and your sins. I believe this with all my heart. There is something inside of me telling me this is true. I can’t explain what that something is but it’s there inside of me. A new president is not going to solve the problems in America; Only GOD can solve America’s problems. You have the hatred of Racism, Illegal Immigrants and the invasion of Islam; and The Jews from around the world are returning to Israel. We are living in some very exciting days and seeing bible prophecy being fulfilled. My only HOPE is that my MANY sins are forgiven and GOD has washed me clean in the Precious blood of His Son Yeshua. Can’t work or do anything to get his forgiveness. GOD offers it to me as a free gift through the cross at Calvary. I’m not judging anyone, that is GOD’s job. I pray that God will help me to love my enemies, even those that want to cut my head off. I pray for the peace of Jerusalem and Israel. I also pray for all the Christian’s that are being killed for their belief in Yeshua “Jesus Christ”. And I pray for America and that America would repent and turn back to GOD. Just my thoughts.

    • Skywatcher

      Wow! Thank you, for those thoughts, Brother Calvin Dixon! Also, thank you, for bringing the 1857 Mountain Meadow massacre to my attention. I must look into that! Yes, we are to pray for our enemies, and to bless them. There is no better blessing to pray over them than that of coming to recognize Yeshua as the Savior of the world! God bless you, as you labor for Him!

    • Dianne

      Calvin Dixon, your post is excellent. Thanks for your much needed insight. God bless you and I hope to hear more from you.

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  • Dale

    This topic of works based salvation by Geoffrey is making a lot of noise. He is right that The Time of Jacob’s Trouble is the Tribulation…and it is about the Jews. But they too must come to the Lord the same way everyone does–by FAITH. I am dismayed by his stance on this. He is truly teaching Roman Catholic doctrine.

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  • Dennis Richardson

    Glenn Beck is full of the lies that Mormonism has been foisting upon America and now the world for 175 years. Mormonism is NOT a domination of Christianity and has never has been. This is the worst of apostate thinking going on in America. It is the Gnosticism that Paul warned the followers of Christ in the first century to not be deceived by. A False view of the true God, of the promise God made to Abraham. The Mormon view of the One and Only Hebrew God, Jesus Christ, is very dangerous and apostate.

  • Mormonism is Freemasonry and Gnosticism which is redundant.

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  • Beyond the words laughable. Mormons were and have been connected with gnostic secret knowledge for two centuries of freemasonry. Gnostic secret knowledge has been in existence since the third century BC in Greece. Mormonism is amongst the greatest laughable jokes in world history. The Mormon White Horse rider, what asininity.

  • dennisrichardson30, you are so right! What assinity! However, as Christians and others, we should be very grateful to Glenn Beck! Yep! At this point in the electoral process, GB proved himself to be another false prophet of Mormonism! He’s just one more to a larger pile, Joseph Smith being the first! Not a single Mormon prophecy has come to pass, and this is admitted by current and former Mormons, yet, they still hang with the cult. The brainwashing is that powerful! We are so blessed to have the Light of the true Jesus Christ shining forth into our lives and into the world!

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