Pope Francis Gives An ‘Apostolic Exhortation’ To Accept The Open Homosexual In Catholic Church

Pope Francis emphasizes that "unjust discrimination" against gay men and lesbians is unacceptable, downplays the idea of "living in sin," and suggests that priests should use their own discretion on whether divorced Catholics in new marriages can take Communion.
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Pope Francis put his shoulder to the doors of the Catholic Church and shoved them open a little wider Friday, calling for the church to be more tolerant in practice, while not changing any official doctrines.

“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” Romans 1:26,27 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: The Catholic Church brags that it  never changes, and on some levels we agree with that statement. They were wrong from the moment they were founded by Constantine in 325 AD, and have never been right. But in practical terms, the Roman harlot is changing dramatically as Pope Francis is steadily and firmly letting Catholics know that in the “new” Catholic church, the ‘out-and-active’ LGBT will be welcome with open arms. The Vatican’s official line is that this is ‘not a change of church doctrine’, but it absolutely is. The One World Church is coming together rapidly.

Pope Francis urged priests around the world to be more accepting of gay men and lesbians, divorced Catholics and other people living in what the church considers “irregular” situations. “A pastor cannot feel that it is enough simply to apply moral laws … as if they were stones to throw at people’s lives,” Francis writes in a sweeping paper outlining his stance on family matters. He urges more common sense and less unthinking following of rules.

Pope Francis Comments on Gay Priests, Homosexuality: ‘Who Am I to Judge’

“By thinking that everything is black and white, we sometimes close off the way of grace and growth,” he writes. He emphasizes that “unjust discrimination” against gay men and lesbians is unacceptable, downplays the idea of “living in sin,” and suggests that priests should use their own discretion on whether divorced Catholics in new marriages can take Communion.

The paper has much to please both liberals and conservatives, though it may not go far enough for either group within the church.

“I understand those who prefer a more rigorous pastoral care which leaves no room for confusion. But I sincerely believe that Jesus wants a Church attentive to the goodness which the Holy Spirit sows in the midst of human weakness,” he writes.The statements come in a highly anticipated paper called “On Love in the Family,” or “Amoris Laetitia” in Latin. Running more than 260 pages, it comes after Francis summoned the world’s Catholic bishops twice to discuss the issues in conferences known as synods. The first was in October 2014, and the second was a year later. Francis has been working on the document since then.

For those paying attention to Francis since he became pope three years ago, the opinions in the paper are unlikely to come as a surprise.

This is, after all, the pope who said, “Who am I to judge?” when asked about homosexuality. The Pope said what?!? But Friday’s paper is not simply a remark made in an interview. It’s what’s called an “apostolic exhortation.”

That means it is an official statement from the Pope on how Catholics should live their lives. It’s the second exhortation Francis has issued since taking the throne of St. Peter, and the first based entirely on synods he summoned himself.

His aim “is to help families — in fact, everyone — experience God’s love and know that they are welcome members of the church,” said the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and writer who called the paper a “groundbreaking new document.” On divorced Catholics, whose religious lives Francis has made it a priority to ease, the Pope writes: “The divorced who have entered a new union should be made to feel part of the Church.”

“It can no longer simply be said that all those living in any ‘irregular situation’ are living in a state of mortal sin,” he writes. source

 

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  • Ole Ingvar

    Babylonian whore makes next step closer to Hell…

    • suzie

      The message from God is very clear. See Understanding the times Olivetreeministries.com Jan Markell. It’s time to look up. Have A Blessed Day

      • Ole Ingvar

        Holy Spirit will lead children of God to every truth personally, as Jesus said in John 16 chapter.

        • Ron

          Amen to that Ole Ingvar My Brother!

          • mosta

            Obama will not finish his second term! Banned independent documentary reveals the truth. This will scare millions! Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy!

        • Ole,

          Have you been lead by the Holy Spirit to EVERY truth personally?

          • Ole Ingvar

            Sure. Not every our step or event are recorded in Bible. But He knows everything, so He will guide.
            King James Version:
            John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
            Bible never fail, sir 😀

          • Edwitness

            Tim,
            The first commandment in the catechism;
            ARTICLE 1
            THE FIRST COMMANDMENT
            I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.3
            It is written: “You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.”4
            And there is this also about graven images;

            IV. “YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELF A GRAVEN IMAGE . . .”
            2129 The divine injunction included the prohibition of every representation of God by the hand of man. Deuteronomy explains: “Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure. . . . “66 It is the absolutely transcendent God who revealed himself to Israel. “He is the all,” but at the same time “he is greater than all his works.”67 He is “the author of beauty.”68
            2130 Nevertheless, already in the Old Testament, God ordained or permitted the making of images that pointed symbolically toward salvation by the incarnate Word: so it was with the bronze serpent, the ark of the covenant, and the cherubim.69
            2131 Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified against the iconoclasts the veneration of icons – of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new “economy” of images.
            2132 The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, “the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype,” and “whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it.”70 The honor paid to sacred images is a “respectful veneration,” not the adoration due to God alone:

            Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. The movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is.71

            Yet this is what your church leadership says about why they do not list the 10 commandments with the “graven image” part intact;

            Which are the Commandments of God?
            The Catholic Ten Commandments are:

            I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
            Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
            Remember thou keep holy the Lord‘s Day.
            Honor thy father and thy mother.
            Thou shall not kill.
            Thou shalt not commit adultery.
            Thou shalt not steal.
            Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
            Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.
            Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.

            Protestant vs. Catholic Ten Commandments
            A visitor asks:

            “Why are the Catholic Ten Commandments different from those in Exodus 20:1-17? Even Catholic Bibles have the same commandments as protestant Bibles, but you have omitted the Second Commandment (“You shall not make for yourself an idol”, NRSVCE) and divided the Tenth Commandment (“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor”) into two. This is unBiblical. Why do you do this?”

            The short answer is that Catholics call these the Ten Commandments because the Catholic Church does, and has done so throughout the centuries.
            From http://www.saintanneshelper.com

            There you have it from the horses mouth. Why do Catholics call these the 10 commandments? Because the Catholic Church does, and has done so throughout the centuries.
            So you see Tim, your own club disagrees with you and it’s catechism. Seems a little schizophrenic huh?

          • Edwitness,
            You missed everything somehow.

            When you paraphrase and summarize the commandments in short little statements, you necessarily lose some things.

            Making idols IS having strange gods. That is forbidden. It can be part of the first commandment. Let’s don’t leave anything out. The Catechism of the Catholic Church doesn’t!

            This is not unbiblical. The original does not divide the commandments as you think. And that is a red herring anyway. All of the text IS the commandments. We cannot leave anything out.

            Edwitness, you need to read what the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches about the Commandments. Then you will see that what I am saying is exactly correct. The Catholic Church leaves nothing out.

            Here is the link I left for Ron. If you don’t read it, you will remain in a fog.

            http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm

            God Bless

        • Ole,

          Below is the entirety of what Pope Francis says regarding homosexuals in his over 260 page document “Amoris Laetitia”.

          Can you tell me which part the Holy Spirit is truthfully leading you to understand is wrong?

          The Church makes her own the attitude of the Lord Jesus, who offers his boundless love to each person without exception. During the Synod, we discussed the situation of families whose members include persons who experience same-sex attraction, a situation not easy either for parents or for children. We would like before all else to reaffirm that every person, regardless of sexual orientation, ought to be respected in his or her dignity and treated with consideration, while ‘every sign of unjust discrimination’ is to be carefully avoided, particularly any form of aggression and violence. Such families should be given respectful pastoral guidance, so that those who manifest a ho¬mosexual orientation can receive the assistance they need to understand and fully carry out God’s will in their lives.
          In discussing the dignity and mission of the family, the Synod Fathers observed that, “as for proposals to place unions between homo¬sexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family”. It is unacceptable “that local Churches should be subjected to pressure in this matter and that international bodies should make financial aid to poor countries dependent on the introduction of laws to establish ‘marriage’ between persons of the same sex”.

          • Ole Ingvar

            Tim, what do you mean on {which part the Holy Spirit is truthfully leading you to understand is wrong?}
            Holy Spirit didn’t parted, as far as I know.

          • Ole,

            Let me rephrase…

            Which statements in the two paragraph’s in “Amoris Laetitia” concerning homosexuals do you find to be a “step closer to hell”. In other words, what is Pope Francis saying in this small section that you do not agree with? And, is your disagreement with anything in it something that is reveal truth given to you by the Holy Spirit, or is it just a personal opinion?

            The reason I choose these two paragraphs is because the ‘news’ story is focused on the homosexual part. But, if you want to comment on any part of the document, read it first, and then comment.

          • Ole Ingvar

            Tim, sodomy is sin. Lesbianism – same sin. Those, who commit it – will go to Hell, as Scriptures said. So how Church allow them to have ministry and marry each other? Ap. Paul gonna “turn in his grave” about this, as here ppl said.
            Gay folk can visit church, can listen to Gospel – no problem. But be part of “glorious priesthood” (every new-born Christian is a priest) – God forbid.

          • Ole,

            You didn’t bother to read the two paragraphs, did you?

            It did not say the Church would allow them to be in ministry, but it did say that gay marriage is OUT.

            Now, read it and tell me what part you do not agree with.

          • Emery

            Ole;
            The ACTUAL original texts from which the scriptures were translated, do not contain the word hell, and do not say hell even exists. But all Bibles teach that we do not have an immortal soul that could even be sent to this nonexistent hell.

          • Ole Ingvar

            Tim, gay marriage is OUT? Out of what 🙂 ? Out of mind, perhaps.

          • Ole,

            You seem like a really nice fellow. I know I am not always clear in what I say or ask, but I hope you will investigate the claims made on this website to see if they are really true.

            God Bless…

          • Ole Ingvar

            Tim, I’m choose Bible to be guided. If something is didn’t contained in the Book – then Holy Spirit, who lives in every new-born Christian, will guide. That’s living Christianity.
            Other documents are written by human and for human. That’s all we need to know.

        • Skywatcher

          Ole, my dear brother in Christ, don’t be casting your pearls before swine! A number of us have literally spent hours bantering back and forth with them. Here’s Tim’s opinion of Geoff’s blogs,

          “This, along with many other sensational falsehoods are published on this fake news website.” If it’s so fake, why is he wasting so much time spewing off pagan nonsense?!

          You’re wasting your time on two strong cult members: Tim (RC) and Emery (JW)! Watch the vitriol that will come out of Emery now! Tim, not so much; he thinks he’s a Christian, yet promotes that which God is totally against.

          God bless you!

          • GG’S DISC.

            Lots of religious bigotry and vitriol on this site. I’m shocked at a lot of the Christian tabloid trash that Geoff publishes. He has deleted countless commentaries I have made on this site and block Many IP addresses. I hate what these disciples of Grider the divider are doing on this website….trashy behavior ungainly the Word of God. They wanna teach the bible but not live it! HYPOCRITES!

          • Emery

            GG;
            Yes, and this Skywatcher seems to be one of the worst, if not the worst. Whatever skywatcher accuses others of, is what he is actually guilty of. Cute, but very childish tactic.

          • Hi Skywatcher,

            Now, my challenge goes to you. Read the two paragraphs below from “Amoris Laetitia” and tell be what you do not agree with.

            [The Church makes her own the attitude of the Lord Jesus, who offers his boundless love to each person without exception. During the Synod, we discussed the situation of families whose members include persons who experience same-sex attraction, a situation not easy either for parents or for children. We would like before all else to reaffirm that every person, regardless of sexual orientation, ought to be respected in his or her dignity and treated with consideration, while ‘every sign of unjust discrimination’ is to be carefully avoided, particularly any form of aggression and violence. Such families should be given respectful pastoral guidance, so that those who manifest a homosexual orientation can receive the assistance they need to understand and fully carry out God’s will in their lives.

            In discussing the dignity and mission of the family, the Synod Fathers observed that, “as for proposals to place unions between homosexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family”. It is unacceptable “that local Churches should be subjected to pressure in this matter and that international bodies should make financial aid to poor countries dependent on the introduction of laws to establish ‘marriage’ between persons of the same sex”.]

            I am just looking for someone to answer the question. I have a hard time getting straight answers from you guys. Especially from Geoffrey.

          • Ole Ingvar

            Thank you, bro, I’ll keep this in mind.

    • froggie

      The satanist, including the popes, are preparing the stage for their god lucifer. Saints !!!, it’s around the corner!!!They are erecting a temple to baal!? April 19 – May 1 – Blood Sacrifice To The Beast, a most critical 13-day period. Fire sacrifice is required on April 19. April 19 is also the first day of the 13-day Satanic ritual day relating to fire – the fire god, Baal, or Molech/Nimrod (the Sun God), also known as the “Roman” god, Saturn (Satan/Devil). WE need to be in prayer for this battle against this evil that is close at hand. WE need to keep preaching repentence to this lost world. The Lord has given me many dreams and two visions.In one dream, Jesus and I were on a very high mountain. I never looked at Him but in my dream I knew it was Him and we communicated with our minds. He told me to look. I saw from afar a big city with many tall buildings. All of a sudden it was hit by a missle and I was beyond terrified when I saw a huge mushroom cloud of fire with black smoke.I was crying and asking Jesuss why He would allowed this to happen. He replied that it was sin but that would bring many people back to Him. Then all of a sudden I was on the streets with sreaming and crying people running away from this fire that was behind us. But as I was running I was preaching to them to give their life to the Lord and that we were in the last days. I then woke up and could not go back to sleep. I have asked the Lord to show me what city that was but I don’t know for a fact but I have always, to this day, felt in my heart to be N.Y. Now I’m almost certain after reading about the temple to baal. Luv u all

      • Edwitness

        Amen froggie,
        The beast is in full swing for his take over during the trib. Time is short! MARANATHA!!!
        Blessings:-}

        • Ron

          There is no doubt after we go that they will start at some point to actually sacrifice children again like in the old days. But they want to have it set up before we go. God Bless You Edwitness!

          • Ky

            “actually sacrifice children again like in the old days”

            Abortion is child sacrifice. In some places in the past they have legally been allowed to deliver the entire baby except for the head. (partial birth abortion) At this point they will run forceps into the back of the skull to kill the baby and then suction out the brains before finishing the delivery. Though this is now banned, they continue to kill children in the womb and then deliver the baby. (D&C) They have also delivered live babies in botched abortions and refused medical aid so the child will die. Sometimes it takes a long time before the baby stops crying. I read somewhere some abortion supporters are talking about making it legal to kill a child up to 5 years old if you should change your mind about wanting a child. We have become so numb to what happens during an abortion that we do not recognize it for what it is, child sacrifice.

          • Ron

            Ky don’t misunderstand me I already see abortion as a sacrifice to Satan on the Altar of Convenience.

            But I think during the Trib they will make it an Open Public Sacrifice Ceremony possibly to honor the AC

            to show him their love for him. But all you have said is very true of which I have the same knowledge of, I really

            cry when I think about how can a person do those things to an unborn baby, IT IS HORRIFYING!

            God Bless You ky!

          • Skywatcher

            Child sacrifice is a huge business/religion these days, as Ky has said, and has been for many years. Ron, back in 1978-81, when I was in Bible college, we had to look at and consider all the various methods of abortion, so we could be more effective in pastoral counseling, witnessing, etc. That was not a very pleasant part of our training! I’ll never forget the scenes, which should be shown in every school from gr. 6 upwards! Another form of abortion is the saline method, whereby, they inject a saline solution into the womb that burns/fries the baby to death. They come out black, as in charred.

            Another method used is the wire. It is a very fine wire that is inserted in a loop into the womb, and it is pulled back and forth, cutting the baby to pieces within. Whatever the loop can find to go around, it cuts off. It could be the head, an arm or a leg; the end is always the same…death, to an innocent unborn child, pregnant with potential and purpose.

            I believe many of these abortionists believe they are harvesting souls for Satan, but ohhhhhhh, are they ever wrong! Dead wrong! They’re sending babies home to be with Jesus, for all eternity, where they will be safe forevermore!

          • Ron

            Sky I know they are in Heaven those babies, but man I could not watch a film like that as a matter of fact I was just finishing my dinner when I read this, I am squeamish. We had one son who had a defect in the womb, and the doctor said we can take care of this ( meaning abort him!) I said to The Lord at that moment in my mind “Lord if you don’t stop that doctor from shooting his mouth off I am liable to do something I will regret and please do not let him use the abominable word abortion to me!” Well he completely shut up, but our son died in the womb a month later.
            I know he is in Heaven but it still makes me cry to think about him as I am right now.
            A person’s humanity has to be dead to continue in this sort of thing and not come out of it.
            This is the biggest thing that will bring God’s Judgment to our land the hardest, shedding innocent blood of those
            who we should be defending the most.

        • DC

          Ron, that was beautiful about your baby in Heaven. You’ve had a tough row to hoe but God has been faithful. We don’t understand why He takes babies from parents who want them, when so many are aborted, but you can rest assured you will see that child soon!

          The conversation about abortion brought another omegaletter post from this week to mind. This one is J.L. Robb called “Flawless and Lawless,” and he quotes Kristen Gray from another article:

          “There are 9,322 species of plants protected by law.

          Not humans.

          93 birds are protected under the Endangered Species Act.

          But not humans.

          Reptiles, amphibians and fish constitute over 200 of the species federally protected by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

          But not humans.

          More than 200 invertebrates (animals without a backbone) are federally protected. They include oyster mussels, white abalones, armored snails, American burying and delta green ground beetle, several species of butterflies, pomace flies, spruce fir moss spiders, cave crayfish, fairy shrimp and elkhorn coral.
          A type of flies is federally protected.

          Flies.

          But not humans.”

          http://www.omegaletter.com/articles/articles.asp?ArticleID=8222

          The transgender issue is also discussed in his article. I first learned of NTEB from this site! They are all Godly people (GG included) who really help in my walk with the Lord.

        • DC
          • Ron

            DC you made me cry about my baby son ( in a good way! ) And since you gave me all that on those animals which I copied to have for future use now you can hit the Liberal Left with their own beliefs and hard at that…..

            IF GLOBAL WARMING AND EVOLUTION ARE TRUE, THERE IS NO CRISIS TO SOLVE BECAUSE ALL CREATURES WILL EVOLVE FOR SURVIVAL AS THEY HAVE FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS.

            So why is Climate Change ( formerly Global Warming, probably to be later changed to Global Ice Age ) so critical since that is what they believe.

            Now ask them is CO2 ( Carbon Dioxide ) really that bad and if they say yes. Wow we should really get rid of all of it. Then when they agree. But if we do that the whole planet will die literally. How so they will say.
            All green plants and Trees need Carbon Dioxide and without it the plants and trees would die and so would the people and animals for lack of Oxygen.

            and…

            Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

            God still keeps 2/3’s of the trees from burning up to sustain life during this very terrible time.

            Lastly did you read that the cream can be gotten at Home Depot or most likely on line.

            God Bless You DC!

          • Ron

            I don’t remember where I read it but they already have death panels formed I think one is in Arizona. They are to determine who should get healthcare and who would be a waste and I am sure they will Euthanize people before long especially the elderly. My 80YO mother keeps bragging about how much her health care costs and I have warned her about this, yet she doesn’t listen especially about getting saved. I tell her we are going soon and you will be on your own if you don’t where will you get advice from my liberal reporter sister, oh yeah that would be useful NOT!
            God Bless You DC!

      • DC

        Ron, yes, I read about where I can find the cream, and thanks again. I’m hoping our Rite Aid has it right here or will check HD or Walgreens next time I go “to town” for groceries. I’m seeing my mom in a couple weeks, so I hope to have some for her.

        P.S. Your “climatology” lesson is hilarious, but do expect it to go right over their heads. 🙂

    • Righteously Dividing The Enemy
      http://www.persecution.com

      And When You Shall See The Abomination that Maketh Desolate, Jesus

      You all do know, like I've said of the Supreme Court Vote, this is like seeing the abomination that maketh desolate standing in the holy place. A pending world disaster whereas Jesus forwarn Jerusalem, know this is a time to flee, explaining a vicious beast 2014, tearing from the pulpit into the pews, that were sorely vacant, "come out of her, my people." Surely the falling away from organized religion the Apostle Paul forewarn would happen, that's along the same time of the Great gathering of Saints, this apostle was forewarn 02/17/2015, that is no longer pending, that Jesus is on His way here, got Jesus yet? Awake, be as aware as God, Himself, see Mat. 24, II Thess. 2, Rev. 13-18 chapters, Apb, the RAM,

      The Temporal Shelter The World Is

      Alex Jones Food Store
      http://www.infowarsstore.com/health-and-wellness/food.html

      The Herding Canadians
      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/canada-emergency-over-suicide-attempts/ar-BBrBhqe?ocid=spartanntp

      -I’m sharing this again because I know America unto westernized civilization on Christmas night 2001 by a dream, a prophecy called the Intrepid Dream Timetable suffered an EMP style attack, that went into prediction for 190 months since, 2001-2017, meaning it can happen any day now. Also meaning not only lights out, but the end of what for especially the last nearly 200 years has been for the world abroad, this American Dream. That's a world base, meaning temporal but the most innovative stay over in which people having replace their faith of Christ along a disillusioned Satan to man induced seeming earthly paradise.
      -This Mystery Babylon who like it’s parent phenomenon has not only by dispensation ending, as so that of the Church Age Bride ascension, though also by a judgment of God. That's for days without number crying, their sins hath reached unto Him, and He hath remembered their iniquities punished them accordingly, spinning us all into what can only be the final era of the human being, Christ Jesus Millennium. Necessarily, such a time of deletion, claiming the lives of millions of the unrepentant, especially on US soil hath surely come, if, as you love, share, read more here, www.2016donottakethemark.blogspot.com

      • Ole Ingvar

        Too much letters, Patricia 😀 .
        I think, what autumn 2017 will be the start point of worst part of Apocalypse.

    • Pepper Boone

      AMEN! The Church Of Laoedicea – The Lord will spew them out of His mouth!

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  • Larry/vietnamvet1971

    The Pope says “Who is he to Judge” of course the False pope & his False religious Church lets ALL Evil, Perversion in & will not judge them.

    Paul tells us that “YES we can Judge” our Real Christian brothers & sisters in Christ in the REAL Church Body and if we have to throw them out so be it.

    That Great Scarlet Whore is showing Her Evilness & Wickedness for ALL to see.

    • Ron

      Amen Larry, that is what they always hit us with “Judge not lest ye be judged”

      • Larry/vietnamvet1971

        And Paul goes on to say…GOD will Judge all the others outside the Body of Christ..The Church.

  • Ron

    We all saw this coming, but they will regret it.

    Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

  • Ky

    The Pope Channel
    All evil, all the time.

    • Marc

      Very clever KY!

      • Ron

        Indeed! Rofl.

  • DC

    This is why I don’t believe the One World Church will be Islam: they kill people whom they consider sinful. If someone’s going to buy in to a religion, it has to be attractive to them: come one, come all. The pope is setting up for the future AC church through this and by saying we all pray to the same God. Who wants to hear they’re a sinner and be persuaded to repent? That would turn people away and lesson the money in the offering plate, which is the motive for too many churches today.

    • Ron

      You are right DC but once we are gone it will be some combination of the main religions to satisfy the masses, and bring unity. And this religion WILL Collectively hate anyone who is a Christian, thus after wiping out One Billion Plus people in seals 1 to 4 the people will be so tired of hearing the Christians who are telling them that this is God’s Wrath as shown
      in The Book of Revelation. They will martyr them at seal 5, because they will conjecture God had nothing to do with it because these were man made events and they don’t want to hear it.

      But after seal 6 and then the starting Trumpets will prove by being Supernatural events that this is in fact God’s Wrath and they won’t be able to deny it at that point!

      • DC

        Some say this fits in with Ez.38-39 where 5/6 of Muslims perish. They won’t bow to any religion other than Islam, so they would reject AC (as would Christians, who’ll be gone), but if many are gone it would be different. I follow one prophecy teacher who believes the end-times religion will be paganism.

        • Ron

          DC no doubt it will be a paganistic form of Christianity with a mix of various religions other than the True One.

    • Skywatcher

      DC, I don’t know if you saw this part of a post I made a couple of days ago, on the Pope’s selecting an order of priests to be trained in exorcisms or not, but here it is:

      “SATAN DOES NOT CAST OUT SATAN! This is the opening act of another inquisition! These priests will be the only ones recognized by the NWO as being qualified / having spiritual discernment, and the witch hunts will begin again! Mark my words! They will be targeting sincere Bible-believing/practicing Protestant Christians and others! The papal power will cut to the chase; all those who do not subscribe to his edicts and demonology will be considered “demon possessed”. If torture and other various methods of “exorcism” do not cause one to convert to RC paganism, the guillotines, manned by Muslims will be waiting. It doesn’t get much clearer than that folks!”

      The Vatican is preparing for spiritual warfare. We’re the enemy, plain and simple, AND WE MUST BE DISPOSED OF!” Where do the Muslims come in? Rev. 20: 4! They are the executioners in this new inquisition! Don’t you worry! They will be handsomely rewarded: The pope will gladly turn over as many RC virgins (and others)as he can to these cats, to save his own skin! Many Muslims are gay, so they’ll fit right into his new “church” policy! That’s why he’s doing this; to placate them!

      This will attract the “church-goers” (not born again Christians) and all the other religious nuts that choose not to follow God’s Word for their counsel and doctrinal source! This is the “new gospel” that will scratch the itching ears”! This will build the NWO church like nothing else could!

      • Ron

        Hmmm now that I read or heard about the RCC going to be training alot of excorcists you are probably right Sky!

        • Skywatcher

          Ron, way down deep inside, I’m hoping I’m wrong, but quite unlikely.

      • DC

        yes, I saw it, and it was a good post. The reference to the Inquisition was on-point, as are the witch hunts. If you don’t bow to Rome, you’re of the devil and killed; if you admit you worship the devil to stop the torture, you’re killed. Lose-lose. If you don’t drown, your a witch; if you don’t, you aren’t one but you’re dead. Lose-lose!

    • carson

      something more akin to the inter-faith then strict sharia islam.

      …so they all pray to the same ‘god’…and what when some fella with supernatural backing/empowerment from the dragon himself to do signs and wonders steps up and claims he’s the ‘god’ they’ve all been worshiping.
      Yeah the stage is being set and the RCC is one of the main stage setters but don’t forget the inter-faith takes all those others to be all inter-faithing too, and they are.

      • DC

        Good point, Carson. We see a lot of ppl like Copeland and Warren “merging” with the RCC. Reminds me of the “Big Tent” Republicans, but now they hate each other.

  • ME

    At least ONE sect of Christianity is making some real social progress.

    Of course, they’re just trying to stay relevant.

    • Ron

      Relevent to man views, Irrevelent to God views except on how to try and make Him Very Angry.

    • guest

      Pssh. Relevancy is temporary. I prefer staying BIBLICAL.

      • Ron

        Better said, well said guest!

    • Skywatcher

      ME, don’t be so easily fooled! Roman Catholicism is NOT a “sect of Christianity”! They are polar opposites!

    • Ron

      Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

      Priests violate this in the RCC

      Luke 11:27-28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

      John 2:3-5 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

      Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

      Mary is only the mother of Jesus not of God, for that to be true she would have to be a God herself and she needed Jesus to change water into wine. She is not a virgin for she had the above children after Jesus.

      Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

      Mary needs saving like the rest of us.

  • Tusitala

    This has been in the works for centuries and is now coming to fruition. This pope is antichrist, perhaps not THE Antichrist, but one in nature with the son of perdition, certainly. Pastor Charles Lawson has been preaching on the coming tide of lawlessness, Pastor Mike Hoggard has been warning of the rise of evil, in fact, he spoke about this website and Mr. Grider just recently in one of his twice weekly YouTube broadcasts. Godly men, King James Bible believers, are sounding the alarm as good watchmen, and we need to listen, we need to be looking up and we must be ready for Jesus’ return. The Babylonian-based, pagan, idol-worshiping Roman Catholic heresy and its perfidious pope are creating the one world religion, they are spitting on the very Word of God, they are blaspheming the Lord with their goddess cult. They are one tiny step away from declaring Mary the co-redemptrix with Jesus Christ, the Son of God Himself. We must be aware and prepared for battle. “And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.” Romans 13:11-12

    • Ron

      I would venture the Pope will be the False Prophet directing all worship to the AC. Your comments are well said Tusitala!

      Revelation 13:11-15 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    • Guest

      You guys are nutjobs.

      • Ron

        All right then Guest…

        We are rubber
        you are glue
        what ever you declare about us
        Bounces off of us because it is true about you.

        Look in the mirror first

        • Guest

          I have, many times. Have you read through the whole bible? While it might have some good messages, overall, its pretty preposterous. Once you realize how the universe really works, the biblical stuf doesnt make sense anymore.

          • Emery

            Guest;
            IF you read, compared each scripture to each other scripture to gain it’s understanding, because if a scripture doesn’t conflict with any other scripture, you probably have the sense of it, then you will see clearly, that every word makes sense completely. It’s the most accurate information on life, every situation, health, science, medicine, and many other things. It seems you haven’t gotten the sense yet of any of it. The Bible makes PERFECT sense. However, sadly, very very few ever understand any of it. Ron certainly has shown me that he doesn’t understand it either. No matter, you can, if you don’t use a falsely translated version, like the KJV, NIV, ASV, and almost all others. There are two or three that are pretty accurate though. It’s in your best interest to study it.

          • Ron

            Emery whats a matter don’t want to hear no comments you False Prophet.

            The KJV is The Authorized translation. Guest don’t listen to Emery his doctrine will lead you to Hell.

            To guest read this and see if God isn’t who he says He is…..

            101 Scientific Facts & Foreknowledge From The Bible
            http://www.raptureforums.com/BibleProphecy/101science.cfm

            Guest Quote: Once you realize how the universe really works, the biblical stuf doesnt make sense anymore.:End Quote

            This website will surprise you with knowledge you didn’t see in the Bible before.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            It would be impossible for me to be a false prophet, since I am not a prophet of any kind. Neither are you an imitator of Christ. He taught real, true Christians how to behave, and you completely ignore those teachings, for some reason that only you and God can know.

            The KJV is the authorized version, by MEN, Not by God. It has so many errors in translation that it is not the inspired word of God. His word says that to add to or take away from the scriptures makes one God’s ENEMY. The translators of that Bible therefore were enemies of God, and you claim that their work is the best. Sadly, you won’t know that until it’s too late, when you’re destroyed in the trib or final battle. You can, however, change course and draw close to God, and then He will draw close to you. Until you do that, you have NO relationship with Him, even though you pretend you do.

            And I have no “doctrine”. It all comes from God, through His inspired word, the the faithful and discreet slave. You want to listen to men rather than God. That is very sad. You are not humble, and you display no wisdom, and wisdom comes ONLY from God and His inspired word. Without wisdom, we cannot have understanding. Without understanding, we have nothing.

          • Ole Ingvar

            {Have you read through the whole bible? }
            And you?

      • Skywatcher

        Guest, you’ve got that right! I’d rather be a “nutjob” for a brief time and go to Heaven, than to be an out-of-place loose bolt suffering in guilt, remorse, and regret for all eternity! Nothing for you to see here, so feel free to move along, and then the mess will be cleaned up… 🙂

  • James c casanova

    Thank you my brother Geoffrey
    for all you expose of evil intent

  • James c casanova

    Thank you my brother Geoffrey

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  • Geoffrey makes this claim again in the editor’s note to this story…

    “They were wrong from the moment they were founded by Constantine in 325 AD, and have never been right.”

    Was the Catholic Church founded in 325 AD? In another recent story here headlined that the Catholic Church invented the Friday crucifixion. Yet, I showed that Justine Martyr wrote about a Friday crucifixion around 150 AD. My point was, that if the Friday crucifixion was a Catholic invention, then the Catholic Church existed about 175 years before Constantine became emporor. I never got an explanation from Geoffrey on that. Nor from any body else, unless I missed it.

    Can anyone answer the question, “did the Catholic Church start in 325 AD?

    • L.R.

      Tim: Paul said that “grievous wolves would come in, not sparing the flock.” He didn’t say it would happen a couple centuries later, but told them that it would happen immediately “after his departing.” False doctrine existed long before Catholicism, and this includes so-called “Good Friday” and other such pagan holidays which can all be traced back to Babylon. Read “The Two Babylons” by A. Hislop.

      • L.R.

        So you are saying that the Friday crucifixion was NOT a Catholic invention?

        Before you say, “No”, ready your own words again.

    • Edwitness

      Tim,
      Whenever it started (325 AD) it was and still is a demonic and very pagan cult. What Justin Martyr might or might not have said changes nothing.

      Will Durant, the Pulitzer Prize winning historian, in his book Caesar and Christ, had this to say about the Catholic religion’s beginning. 
”When Christianity (RC) conquered Rome, the ecclesiastical structure of the pagan church, the title and vestments of the pontifex Maximus, the worship of the Great Mother and a multitude of comforting divinities, the sense of supersensible presences everywhere, the joy or solemnity of old festivals, and the pageantry of immemorial ceremony, passed like maternal blood into the new religion, and captive Rome captured her conqueror. 
The reigns and skills of government were handed down by a dying empire to a virile papacy; the lost power of the broken sword was rewon by the magic of the consoling word; the armies of the state were replaced by the missionaries of the Church moving in all directions along the Roman roads, and the revolted provinces, accepting Christianity (RC), again acknowledged the sovereignty of Rome”. When was this? 325 AD!

      • Edwitness,

        “Whenever it started…” That was the question. Claims on this site are that it started in 325 AD. Was it?

        The first 33 popes were martyred because they would not bow to the Roman Emperor and its paganism. This take us right up to the time of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. If the Friday crucifixion was an invention of the paganized Catholic Church as was stated in the other story, but yet Justin Martyr wrote about it in 150 AD, then, in your opinion, is the Friday crucifixion of pagan origin? If so, why were popes being martyred for yet another 175 years because they would not paganize?

        Another question: Why did you feel it necessary to add the ‘(RC)’ after ‘Christianity’ in Mr. Durant’s passage?

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  • Are the editor’s notes correct?

    “They were wrong from the moment they were founded by Constantine in 325 AD, and have never been right.”

    Was the Catholic Church founded in 325 AD? In another recent story here headlined that the Catholic Church invented the Friday crucifixion. Yet, I showed that Justine Martyr wrote about a Friday crucifixion around 150 AD. My point was, that if the Friday crucifixion was a Catholic invention, then the Catholic Church existed about 175 years before Constantine became emporor. I never got an explanation from Geoffrey on that. Nor from any body else, unless I missed it.

    Can anyone answer the question, “did the Catholic Church start in 325 AD?

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  • Skywatcher

    Tim, you’re absolutely correct! The RC cult existed well before Constantine! Roman Catholicism has its roots way back in Genesis, at the Tower of Babel! It was in it’s early stages, forming for thousands of years until Constantine arrived on the scene.

    Constantine himself was converted to Christ, and in 313 made Roman Catholicism a recognized religion of the Empire, on a level with all other state religions. By the time the Emperor Constantine died, in 337 AD, the Christian faith was firmly established in the Roman Empire.

    One must be careful here in the definition of “Christian”, as Christianity at this time was becoming a far cry from what it was in Paul’s day. Heresy, pride, and debauchery crept in, pushing Jesus Christ out. Later, in 395 AD, the majority position of the “Christians” in the Roman state was recognized when “Christianity” became the only official state religion.

    If this was in fact biblical Christianity, the inquisitions and crusades that theologically flew in direct opposition to the Holy Scriptures should never have happened!

    A great change in the relations between “Christianity” and the world began with the conversion of Constantine in 312. Many historians feel that the acceptance of Christianity during the fourth century as the official state religion seriously damaged spirituality. “Christian” leaders (Roman Catholicism’s hierarchy) became confidantes of emperors, and quickly forgot their rightful places. Soon, the emperors and everybody else came under their authority and scrutiny, and it has been a spiritual decline ever since.

    Untold millions of biblical Christians, who still had the original seed of the gospel, handed down by the disciples were martyred by this “new breed” of “Christianity”. Tertullian, an early Roman Catholic writer observed, “The blood of the martyrs is seed.” They could not be stopped. As more were being mercilessly slaughtered, many more were accepting Christ as their Savior and Lord.

    The senseless killing has never stopped, and it is going to be revived in N. America very shortly, by the same demonic and ruthless entity, known as the Church of Rome, or the Roman Catholic “Church”. I hope this helps to shed some light on the issue!

    • Edwitness

      Well said Skywatcher,
      I took a different tack in my reply to Tim. But, your reply reminded me that they really do have their roots in the paganism of the ancient idolatrous kingdoms. Their’s is a bloody, murderous religion. Moloch, Baal, and others feed her with inventions of torture. There is definitely a connection between her and the erecting of the arches in New York and London as well as other parts of the world. We are seeing their evils being perpetrated upon the M.E. and Europe today. The whole earth will have a taste of her savagery during the trib that is coming very soon upon them.

      Do you ever go to israelinewslive? Steven DeNoon is pretty good. He does a great job of bringing the latest news about the RCCs lust for power. And how the rabbis are giving the pope Jerusalem etc… Interesting stuff that continues to reveal just how very close we are to leaving here with our savior.

      Blessings brother:-}

      • Skywatcher

        Thank you. Yes, Brother Edwitness, I subscribe to “israelinewslive”, and for the most part, I enjoy Brother Steven’s program. If Christ doesn’t come before the end of this year, I have a feeling we’ll soon be going to Him…Either way, we win! Yayyyyyyyyyyyy! (That was a Kermit de Frog “Yayyyyyyy”! 🙂

    • DC

      Sky, do you see the future power as the RCC or the Revived Roman Empire (EU?) or a combination of the two: religion & government? Those who talk about the Harlot and the 7 Hills….some talk about the Roman Church, while other take it to be the Empire.

      • Skywatcher

        Hi there, DC! I see them as one and the same! When one goes back to the time of Constantine, 312ff, it was at that time that the RC cult asserted itself as the supreme ruler over the Roman Empire, and the known world, for that matter. They exalted themselves as gods and all others were their subjects, including the emperors.

        I also see a revival of the Ottoman Empire happening, but…one mustn’t forget, this too, is part of the Roman Empire, and therefore, Islam will have a key role to play in the closing acts during the G.T. Rev. 20: 4

        The NWO consists of:

        A global dictator
        A global economic system
        A global religion

        Presently, the Roman cult and Islam are rearing their ugly heads in unison; it’s going to be a blood bath of stellar proportions! We, who have been washed in the precious blood of the Lamb have nothing to fear! God bless you, Sis!

        • DC

          Please keep praying for my Catholic family.

          • Skywatcher

            I do everyday, DC! 🙂

          • DC

            Thank you!

    • Skywatcher,

      I finally got someone to agree that Geoffrey Griders assertion that the Catholic Church started in 325 A.D. and that they invented the Friday crucifixion is incorrect.

      Congratulations! You are the first.

      I am sorry about how many historians ‘feel’. I look at history a little differently…not based on feelings but more on facts.

      Well concocted stories are clever, but still just stories.

      Can you give me historical references for the church of the original seed you speak of? I would like to read about that.

  • williaml

    He is Not apostolic!
    He IS the False Prophet.
    Didn’t he get the memo

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  • Pierre

    The religion of self righteousness, arrogance, hate, condemnation, and anti-Catholic, is the religion of Antichrist. Be careful lest Jesus words be applied to you “Tax collectors and harlots (should we add homosexuals) shall enter the Kingdom of God before you.”

    The Biblical persecution of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church has already started, from within and from outside, and will reach its climax with the 5th Seal of the Apocalypse, Catechism #675, and Our Lady of Fatima 3rd secret:

    At the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!’. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it’ a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father’. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels, each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

    • Edwitness

      Pierre,
      God will judge RCC. This can be seen in Rev.17:16-18. You have been deceived by her whoredoms. You prefer idols to the one true God, Jesus Christ. You prefer bowing to statues of dead people instead of bowing to Jesus. You worship Mary as the “queen of heaven” when we know that it is only the paganism that infected Israel that speaks of such a person. Jer.7&44 Idolatrous, murdering pagans. That is your heritage as a Roman Catholic. Worshiping the god Baal and moloch with your queen of heaven Ishtar. You can get escape the destruction that is coming upon the whore. Do not trust in men. Trust in Jesus. If it comes from the RC religion it is a lie.

      Flee from her and come to faith in the savior Jesus Christ.

    • Skywatcher

      Hi there, Pierre! How are ya, buddy! Why don’t you do yourself and your family a HUGE favor, and buy yourself a copy of the book, “Exo-Vaticana”, and see where the Fatima experience was MANIPULATED by the Vatican, to introduce and to substantiate Mariology! The sisters who had the vision were forced to say things they didn’t see! The visitation they were expecting didn’t happen at the prophesied time, etc.! You’ll find it to be quite an eye opener!

      It can be bought at Amazon, written by Tom Horn and Cris Putnam. You’ll see a lot of other things spoken by RC clergy and scientists in this book that will make your head spin! After you read this, come back to let us know what you think! I for one, would really like to know. This book is extremely well researched and documented! It will also help you to understand the Bible much better too!

  • MG

    SICK FREAK! ANTICHRIST…OR RATHER; FALSE PROPHET!!! UNGODLY LITTLE MAN. HARD TO BELIEVE PEOPLE WORSHIP THIS CREEP! HELL AWAITS FOR HIM!

  • MG

    ONE MORE THING…HOMOS ARE REPROBATES…NO HOPE FOR THEM…GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO DO THIS WICKED THING…THEY ARE LOST…NEVER FORGET; THEY ARE NOT NOR WILL THEY EVER BE A PART OF THE BODY. THEY DON’T WANT TO BE ANYWAY, THEY JUST WANT OTHERS TO ACCEPT THEM AND ACCEPT THEIR SIN AS OK…THAT IS TOTALLY AGAINST GOD AND ALL THAT’S HOLY. READ IN THE KJV , ROMANS CHAPTER 1

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  • Victoria

    The Pope is a fake…a fraud. He is the false prophet. Leviticus 20:13 – If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
    Clearly this Pope is going against Gods word. He is a fake!! He is a part of the NWO and their agenda!

    • Skywatcher

      Victoria, you are so right. God never changes, and neither can His Word, because they are both one and the same! John 1: 1,

      “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.”

      Therefore, as you say, there is still a penalty to be paid for sin. God bless you!

  • It is true that God our Father in Heaven desires that all be saved, and turn from their wicked ways. God does not want us to fail, but to have everlasting life with him. God also says that we must turn from our sinful ways, truly repent, and seek him out.
    With the Pope accepting homosexuals into the church without a true repentance, and turning from sinful ways, he is not speaking the true words, of our Lord and Savior. The Pope will be sending thousands into eternal ruin. Kinda like old times in the Bible when the money changers, and evil ones were using the temple for all personal gain instead of preaching the true word of Jesus Christ our Savior.

  • Skywatcher

    Ron, I hope I didn’t ruin your supper with my abortion post. Differing time zones are not always user friendly! So sorry to hear about your other son who went home early, but at least, he is home! That’s truly something to rejoice about and to look forward to! Blessings!

    • Ron

      Not to worry Skywatcher! We can’t account for everyone’s quirks and I don’t expect you to for mine. No I sit down and cry when I think about how someone can take an innocent baby and do those things to it. I mean how evil must one be to make killing babies your occupation. You know what I found interesting once was where some guy ( and they made a video of it! ) said that he was going make artistic impressions on some medium paper, or art board by squishing a mouse flat with a log and you would not believe the turn out ( this guy wasn’t really going to do it I think he was just making a point in relation to abortion ) Well all these people were really messing him up and the cops barely stepped in. Point is when if ever would these same people stand against abortion in the same manner they did for a little mouse. Do a search come to think of it I think I may have saw it on TV, but you may find it on the web. It’s sad, sad sorry world we live in.

  • Skywatcher

    Ron, in reference to death panels in this post you made, ”
    Ron
    10 April 2016 at 7:21 pm

    I don’t remember where I read it but they already have death panels formed I think one is in Arizona. They are to determine who should get healthcare and who would be a waste and I am sure they will Euthanize people before long especially the elderly. My 80YO mother keeps bragging about how much her health care costs and I have warned her about this, yet she doesn’t listen especially about getting saved. I tell her we are going soon and you will be on your own if you don’t where will you get advice from my liberal reporter sister, oh yeah that would be useful NOT!”

    Here’s a link to an article on death panels:

    http://www.infowars.com/high-school-students-decide-who-lives-and-who-dies-under-limited-healthcare-assignment/
    http://www.davejanda.com/americas-vital-signs/episode-18 ~ on death panels
    http://macrocosmicthinking.blogspot.ca/2014/11/soft-kill-vaccinations-sterilization.html ~ ~”SOFT KILL” : Vaccinations, Sterilization, Eugenics, & the “Right to Die”/Death Panels Mercury in flu shots:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/050503_death_panels_conspiracy_Obamacare.html ~ Death panels

    This will get you started, Ron.

    FYI, if you go to http://www.naturalnews.com, you can click on a link called, Resources for independent minds:
    GoodGopher.com
    Alternative search engine

    This search engine is supposed to be encrypted so your searches cannot be tracked! Plug in whatever topic you wish to research and the world is your health spa!

    Blessings!

  • Pierre

    The laws of God cannot be broken, and so is the law of love and mercy and forgiveness. God alone can judge. And we should be showing the way of Jesus in love and humility, not hate and judgment

    The forces of evil are leading people into sin and delusion to rise against the Church, as it is written, bringing up only the dark side of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Juda’s always existed in the Church from the beginning. Look at the old law and see how much dark side there was.

    Babylon the great of the Apocalypse chapter 18 is more clear who it is. The religious Babylon of chapter 17 is Not the Papacy and the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, it could be the dark forces under the guises of the Church teaming up with antichrist, the occult system starting at the tower of Babylon, ending up with Rome. Again I advise everyone to look at the apparitions of Our Lady Of Medjugorje  and her messages to the world.

    • Tusitala

      You are greatly deceived. The Roman Catholic heresy violates the inerrant Word of God, Jesus Christ Himself, with its Babylonian idol worship, goddess cult of the queen of heaven, vain, repetitious prayers, addressing the dead, placing “saints” in mediation between God and Man, and countless other abominations. This antichrist Pope spits on the Truth of the Holy Bible almost daily, protecting pedophiles, pandering to sodomites, and encouraging people to bow and pray to Mary and give her worship which belongs ONLY TO ALMIGHTY GOD. The Vatican is built upon rivers of blood of the Bible-believing Christians they have murdered throughout the ages to prevent them reading the Word of God for themselves and refusing the filth the Roman Catholic church serves up as the “true” faith. The demonic apparitions of which you speak are forbidden in the Bible, absolute anathema. “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” 2 Corinthians 11: 13-15 Come out from her, have no part of her, read the King James Bible and come into the Light of God. May Jesus bless you and guide you to the Truth as He did me after over 50 years of the deceptions of Rome.

      • Skywatcher

        AMEN, Tusitala! You know what you’re talking about! 5o years in the mess gives you lots of experience to speak of firsthand! Praise the Lord, for all He has done for you!!! What a testimony!

        Pierre, and other dear Roman Catholic people, you’d be very wise to listen to what Tusitala says here. She’s right on the money, and your eternal destiny depends totally upon you knowing the truth and appropriating it to your life! Salvation is free! You don’t have to jump through all the unbiblical bells and whistles your “church” has taught you!

    • Pierre

      Thank you for your advices but No. I am a Catholic, I have been much with other churches, and I know much, I even read the Moslem Koran, and New Age books and the Galactic Federation! God has taught me the truth not the Catholic Church. He taught me the truth about the Catholic Church, his Church. He taught me that never to judge or condemn anyone or their faith, but to speak Jesus to them in love, and he will do the rest. He taught me that his Mother the “Queen is sitting at his right hand all glorious within” (Ps 45). In one, he tought me LOVE, PIETY, HUMILTY. And his Holy Mother, my Heavenly Mother, taught me how to be able to practice and keep them.

      • Skywatcher

        Pierre, with all due respect, that verse in Psalms is NOT referring to the virgin Mary! This is referring to the blood-bought, born again Church of Jesus Christ. There’s no possible way Mary can fit into this picture.

        You said, “He (God) taught me that never to judge or condemn anyone or their faith, but to speak Jesus to them in love, and he will do the rest.”

        I hate to tell you this, but all through the N.T. Jesus is calling out the religious leaders of His day for their lack of understanding the Scriptures! He never lets them off the hook, in fact, He even calls them the children of the devil! John 8: 44.

        So, you’re either listening to an imposter “god” or misinterpreting the Holy Scriptures. You should not be so proud to be called a Catholic, as you should be if you were a born again, blood-bought, redeemed, and sanctified and justified child of God! That is of more value!

        There’s nothing wrong with loving others, and sometimes because of that, God places a burden on our souls to reach out to those who are being misled and deceived. I hope you don’t see my comments as a personal attack on you, Pierre, but instead, a passionate plea to you to read God’s Word, and only God’s Word, and ask His Holy Spirit to give you the correct interpretation, as only He can. After all, He is the One who inspired holy men to write the words! God loves you, so do I!

      • Ole Ingvar

        In Bible there’s only one “heavenly mother” – goddess Astarte. Or Ishtar, or Easter, or else.
        King James Version:
        Jeremy the Prophet 7:
        18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

        In New Testament you won’t find any link to Mary worshiping or other similar things. Just decide,what is dearer to your – bitter and brutal truth or sweet self-deception?

        • Skywatcher

          Words well spoken, brother Ole! Keep up the great work! I enjoy your posts, my brother! God bless you! 🙂

        • Ron

          Isn’t that The Truth Brother Ole!

          to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may PROVOKE ME to ANGER.

        • Edwitness

          Amen Ole,
          It is incredible that anyone would refer to someone they “venerate” with a title like that “Queen of heaven”. Especially since the only reference in the Bible to her is in the scriptures you cited.
          Awesome post brother.
          Blessings:-}

        • Ron

          Amen Brother Ole Ingvar!

          I don’t know what you know about some good resources but this one is where you you both The King James Version of The Bible and a Concordance so if can’t remember where a particular scripture is just punch in the word you know exists in that Scripture it makes life alot easier looking them up. here it is, at least just take a view of it and see how handy it is I have it open every time I am up on the forums.

          It is called the Blue Letter Bible it has most of the other versions as well, but it gives you a selection of what version you want. I don’t need anything but KJV

          https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=foaming&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1

          God Bless You Brother Ole!

          • Ole Ingvar

            It’s good practice, brother Ron, to read KJV. I don’t even use Russian Synod Translation, because it corrupts word of God. Not globally, but even particular change could lead to heresy. I read KJV too and don’t chase for new modern translations,because they came from lodges.

    • Ron

      I have been in a Catholic Church a couple of times and I have noticed they don’t post The Full Ten Commandments and here is the biggest one they only partially post…..

      Exodus 20:2-5 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

      Pierre everything Tusitala Has Said is Right.

      Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

      • Ron,

        Catholics have all of the commandments in their Bibles and in their teachings.

        You need only to look a little further and you will find the truth (if you dare to).

        All of the commandments are there. It matters not how you split the verses up. The section on the Ten Commandments is not numbered in the Bible. Bible verse numbering was added later by Stephen Langton (professor at the University of Paris and later he became the Archbishop of Canterbury) in the year A.D. 1227.

        Here is an explanation in the Catechism…

        The Decalogue in the Church’s Tradition

        2064 In fidelity to Scripture and in conformity with the example of Jesus, the tradition of the Church has acknowledged the primordial importance and significance of the Decalogue.

        2065 Ever since St. Augustine, the Ten Commandments have occupied a predominant place in the catechesis of baptismal candidates and the faithful. In the fifteenth century, the custom arose of expressing the commandments of the Decalogue in rhymed formulae, easy to memorize and in positive form. They are still in use today. The catechisms of the Church have often expounded Christian morality by following the order of the Ten Commandments.

        2066 The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.

        So, you see Ron, all of this hogwash about Catholics removing one of the commandments is just that…hogwash.

        • Ron

          No it is not, They only paraphrase the first commandment as I saw they had posted in the children’s class nothing is mentioned about not bowing down to images and the catholics are taught only the priests can interpret scripture.

          Don’t tell me hogwash about the first commandment that I saw posted in a catholic sunday school class with my own eyes.
          That is so they can justify all their idols and bowing down to them within the church.

          So what is your religion tim?

          • Ron,

            I been in all kinds of churches in my life. I have never seen the entire passage of the Ten Commandments posted on the wall in a children’s classroom. You won’t see this in any church.

            The bottom line is ALL the commandments are taught in detail in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Absolutely nothing is left out. Guess what? It is in Catholic Bibles too.

            All of the commandments are there. It matters not how you split the verses up. The section on the Ten Commandments is not numbered in the Bible. Bible verse numbering was added later by Stephen Langton (professor at the University of Paris and later he became the Archbishop of Canterbury) in the year A.D. 1227.

            Here is an explanation in the Catechism…

            The Decalogue in the Church’s Tradition

            2064 In fidelity to Scripture and in conformity with the example of Jesus, the tradition of the Church has acknowledged the primordial importance and significance of the Decalogue.

            2065 Ever since St. Augustine, the Ten Commandments have occupied a predominant place in the catechesis of baptismal candidates and the faithful. In the fifteenth century, the custom arose of expressing the commandments of the Decalogue in rhymed formulae, easy to memorize and in positive form. They are still in use today. The catechisms of the Church have often expounded Christian morality by following the order of the Ten Commandments.

            2066 The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.

            Ron,the story about the Catholic Church removing one of the commandments is ‘hogwash’. This, along with many other sensational falsehoods are published on this fake news website.

            I hope this clears things up a little.

            BTW, I am a Christian and I am Catholic.

          • Ron

            Tim You haven’t been in every church in America and I saw what I saw about the 10 Commandments the very first was paraphrased to say
            I am The Lord Thy God thou shalt not have any other gods before me.

            That is not the full 1st commandment.

            So that is all I have to say on that matter.

          • Ok Ron,

            You insist on believing that the commandments were numbered in the Hebrew original. Well, OK.

            But this just shows to all how uneducated you are in Biblical matters. Please educate yourself (or get help) first, and then we can have a productive conversation about it.

          • Ron

            Tim learn how to read first yourself, you haven’t read or listened to a word I said. To me it wouldn’t matter if those shalt not covet was first listed as long as it was accurately written

            WORD FOR WORD.

          • Ron,

            I did not mean to offend you. I just wouldn’t expect find the full text on the wall of a children’s classroom. But I suppose it would depend on the age of the children. My original point was that the full text is in Catholic Bibles and is taught in the CCC with nothing left out.

            Here is the full text from Exodus 20, verses 1-17:

            20 And God spake all these words, saying,
            2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
            3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
            4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
            5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
            6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
            7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
            8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
            9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
            10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
            11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
            12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
            13 Thou shalt not kill.
            14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
            15 Thou shalt not steal.
            16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
            17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

            Notice, there are 17 verses for these ‘10’ commandments. So you have to group some of the verses together. Some verses obviously stand alone, like #13, “Thou shalt not kill.” This one needs no elaboration. But also notice that verses 8, 9 and 10 are grouped together (by us of course) to make the commandment “Remember the Sabbath day”.

            In the same way, verses 3 through 6 can be grouped together to make the commandment “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Why does this make sense? Because that is what one does when he carves and idol and bows down to it to worship it as god…he is having other gods before God. Verses 4 through 6 are fully explaining the verse 3.

            In the CCC, verse 17 is broken up into “Thou shalt not covet your neighbor’s wife,” and “Thou shalt not covet any of your neighbor’s property.

            Catholics (and Lutherans) follow the divisions of St. Augustine. The bottom line is that the whole passage is covered in detail in the CCC. Here is a link directly to the teaching on the first commandment if you want to take a look:

            http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm

            God Bless

    • Pierre

      @skywatche, I will not take this personal despite the facts of saying I am listening to other god or misinterpreting the Bible or being deceived. As I said, I was in your churches long enough, I cannot go on with much debates, because I will have to point out the errors, and this is not our custom as Catholics to do so. God alone can judge and call them blood of viper, not us. We have to aquire the virtues, especially love and humility, and put away hate and condemnation, before we can go to heaven. This is the true religion. The Holy Virgin is the Queen of Psalm 45, the Woman of Genesis 3:15,  Micah 5:3, Apocalypse 12, and other places.

      @Ron, we worship the One True God. You are misinterpreting Apocalypse chapt 18, it refers to a superpower country, a country who lived in luxury, world political and financial center, arrogant, sinful, corrupt, who corrupted world leaders, and all nations have drunk of the wine of her sexual immorality… It is scary, and I did physically flee from it, not just from her sins. There is no rapture, there is only one resurrection for the Saints, and who are alive will be transformed along with them, at the end of the tribulation period and before God judgment is poured out.

      • Skywatcher

        May I encourage you to do some study in Church History…all of it, before it’s too late for you. Also, you might want to get wise and listen to some testimony of former RC’s on this forum.

        You said, “I cannot go on with much debates, because I will have to point out the errors, and this is not our custom as Catholics to do so.”

        Why don’t you just get honest for a minute and tell the truth: you don’t know enough about the Holy Bible on your own, to be able to stand up in a debate. That’s just how it is with a great many Catholic people.

        In fact, there are errors in the Protestant faith to be pointed out, and many of these so-called Protestants do NOT subscribe to God’s Word either! Don’t believe for one minute that the RC entity is going down alone; she’s not! Why, I’d have fun helping you to point out the errors and inconsistencies in these circles. Let’s do ‘er! : )

        In the meantime, enjoy your journey, Pierre. I’m afraid you’ll find it’s not going to get you to your preferred destination. Your RC “handbook” flies in direct opposition to your own Bible!

  • Emery

    What are the odds? Being the first counterfeit copy of the “one true faith” as taught by Jesus, the RCC set the pattern for all sects/denominations of Christendom. They all have many elements of pagan religions within them, such as the cross, Christmas, Easter, immortality of soul, hellfire, trinity, rapture, etc. etc. None of the things listed are scriptural teachings, but are the teachings of religions. They cannot be found in an accurate translation of God’s word. They are all part of Babylon the Great, and will be exterminated in the final battle or the tribulation.

    • Ron

      Emery these 4 things are Scrptural in your writings above….

      immortality of soul, hellfire, trinity, rapture. They may not be there in those exact words for some of them but they are there.
      I can Give you the best one for the Fact there is a Trinity of God…..

      Luke 3:21-22 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
      God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit all three of Them in One God.

      How was man made? In God’s Image. This just didn’t mean arms, legs, head, eyes, nose, ears, hair, feet and hands.
      God Imparted His Spirit to Man.
      What are God’s Characteristics Well He is Eternal and His Spirit is Indestructible. He CANNOT DENY HIMSELF, so with His Spirit he imparts to us comes God Awareness so we know from birth God exists, but sinful nature deny’s it as we get older.
      Although are Spirit is Indestructible like God’s doesn’t mean it cannot be tormented and Hellfire is very real.
      Reread Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John Jesus Christ Preached more about the dangers of Hell than anything else and the parable of the Richman and Lazarus shows those in Hell are very much conscious as given by what they had for a conversation with Father Abraham.
      And if someone neglects such a Great and Wonderful Gift as Eternal Life thru Jesus Christ for Bliss in Heaven, then obviously that person has rejected God’d Goodness and will put them…
      WHERE NO GOODNESS OF GOD EXISTS AT ALL! That is first in Hell followed by it being eventually emptied into The Lake of Fire before God’s Throne.
      The RCC did not set the Pattern for all Faiths, I came to Jesus Christ by myself and The KJV Bible confirmed everything that happened to me after I accepted Him. And it is an Accurate Translation of God’s Complete Word.
      If you don’t know Jesus Christ time is running out before He Raptures us, accept Him while you can I hope you do.

      • Emery

        Ron;
        Sorry, but that’s incorrect. There is nothing in the original texts showing that God is a trinity, that is strictly a pagan belief. A hell of fire and torment does not exist as God’s word doesn’t say it does, but it says that the penalty for sin is death. NOT death AND torture in hellfire. The original texts had no word that translates into English as “hell”. The Greeks used the word in a few areas of it’s domain to refer to the “common grave of mankind”, not of a place of fire and torment. The immortal soul is also Greek, and pagan. God’s word says clearly that we do not have a soul that survives our death. And there is no mention of a rapture, that is a misunderstanding of the entire NT, primarily of the account of the remnant of the 144,000 being taken to heaven just before the final battle. The only ones to go to heaven are the 144,000 after God transforms them into spirit beings, as are the angels, God, Jesus, etc., since flesh cannot enter heaven. You are using a falsely translated Bible, and you believe the false teachings of religion, when God and Jesus both said that all religions are false, works of the flesh, and the greatest part of Babylon the Great.

        • Ron

          Emery, Emery, Emery Sorry but you are so incorrect it is pitiful.

          So tell me are a Jew???????????

          Well then your religion only allows the Jews to Go to Heaven and no one else!

          The 144,000 are Jews in Revelation tasked with giving the Gospel during The Tribulation, 12,000 each from the 12 Tribes.
          Oh the the Rapture is there you are just blind to it. The KJV is not a perversion but The Bible you are using probably is.
          What are going to say when millions across the planet disappear in the Rapture

          will you believe the Lie told by those in charge that Mother Earth gave herself an enema or that UFO’s removed us.

          It will happen and very soon then Salvation will cost you dearly to be saved.

          So if you are not a Jew by your own description then you WILL NEVER get to Heaven.

          and we have….

          Revelation 7:3-9 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
          Do not call Jesus Christ a Liar I will quote Scripture….
          Luke 16:19-31 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
          The Rich man didn’t believe Hell Existed either by this given Illustration by Jesus that is until he died and woke up in it!
          I really feel sorry for you for Satan has blinded your mind to the Truth and you just prove to me the Rapture is right around the corner.
          They likely laughed Noah to Scorn, most likely because he said God was going to bring rain from the sky.
          Rain from the sky ha we all know water only comes from the earth!
          Genesis 2:6 But there went up a MIST FROM THE EARTH, and WATERED THE WHOLE FACE OF THE GROUND.
          So they scoffed just like you and many others.
          Water was in underground cavities that God had arranged in such a fashion that I am inclined to believe
          The Good Lord gave us the First Timed Sprinkler System and it used the gravitational pull of the moon to make it happen at regular intervals.
          Normally I would only share that with a Fellow Christian But you will likely scoff even more.
          Which brings up another point, if God Did Not Want to Give Us a Rainbow as His Symbol of Promise to not flood the Earth again, he would have done it again so the Earth had a mist coming up from it to water it and restored those things under the Earth while the Ark was a floating.
          What version or should I say perversion of The Bible you are using I may want to read it.
          Apostasy is so rampant right now.
          There is only 1 WORK OF GOD THAT ANYONE CAN DO TO ENTER HEAVEN
          AND NO MORE!
          John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
          John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
          AND
          Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
          IT DOESN’T SAY ONLY 144,000 ONLY WILL BE SAVED.
          I hope you come to salvation you seem to be with some internet religion or cult IMHO.

          • Edwitness

            Great post Ron,
            The truth you have given to Pierre is more than enough for him to come to faith in Christ. And especially your reference to John 6:28,29. The only work we must do is believe. Fight the good fight. Never drop your gaurd in defense of the truth.

            MARANATHA!!
            Blessings:-}

    • Ole Ingvar

      Emery, please, don’t tell me about what is in original Scriptures 😉 – I have it in my tablet and I’ve read them. So why Christ came here, if Hell isn’t exist, our souls too and Jesus never was crucified?

  • Emery

    Ron;
    The 144,000 are not Jews, they are not physical Israel, they are “spiritual Israel”, and come out of every nation and people and tongue. Your explanation of every scripture you quoted is completely wrong. Your understanding of the entirety of the scriptures is probably wrong as well. Each person who held the pens that wrote the NT are members of spiritual Israel, the annointed 144,000. And each one to whom each of those letters were addressed were also of the annointed 144,000. It applies to only them, and the New Covenant was made only with them. They are to teach us and everyone what is in those letters.

    • Ron

      You know Emery it amazes how people like you join a religion like the JW’s and do not read about all the failed prophecies and doctrinal changes they have made since the watch tower went into effect.

      You need Discernment which can ONLY come from God

      “Discernment is not a matter of simply telling the difference between what is right and wrong; rather, it is the difference between right and almost right” & “the difference between truth and error is not a chasm, but a razor’s edge.” (Spurgeon/Murray)

      • Emery

        Ron;
        I am not part of any religion. I began retranslating ancient Hebrew and ancient Koine Greek as a freshman in college. I have compared dozens of Bible translations to the original texts, and compared each scripture to each other scripture. I did this LONG before I had ever heard of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I knew what God’s word actually says, and a few years ago, found a group who knew the same things. They are not a religion, they are a society of ministers who preach God’s word, and warn of the coming Kingdom. They are, in fact, the ONLY people on Earth who do the ENTIRE will of God, all day, every day, no exceptions. No religion does this, nor does any religionist do this. No religion is even Christian, according to God’s word, the Bible. You speak of discernment, but you totally lack it. It seems to me that it’s hypocrisy you post, and not any truth.

        • Ron

          The Lord Jesus Christ Rebuke Thee Emery.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            You are funny, or rather you would be funny, if it were not so sad to watch what you think. And the thees and thous were Old English, and were outdated by about 200 years when the KJV was assembled from other translations. They did not speak that way in the first century, or between then and when the Pentateuch was written.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            Romans 14:19 So, then, let us pursue the things making for peace and the things that build one another up

            Or if you prefer:

            Romans 14:19New King James Version (NKJV)

            19 Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another.

            Colossians 4:6 Let your words always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should answer each person.

            Colossians 4:6King James Version (KJV)

            6 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

            Do you somehow think this is how you are behaving? I think not. Jesus taught us how to behave. I do. Let Jesus be your example. We are to imitate him, and his Father, God the Almighty in all things. Your words to me are anything but upbuilding, or seasoned with salt. Your haughtiness in thinking only YOU have an understanding of God’s word is anything but gracious or humble. Believe me, your beliefs come from Christendom and a false translation, NOT from God’s inspired word. Religions ALL are false religion, and the KJV has many words added and taken from it, thereby making it false. Revelation’s last few paragraphs tell us that to take away or add to any scroll of prophecy makes one God’s ENEMY. The KJV is the perfect example of this.

      • Skywatcher

        Ron, Emery didn’t have the wherewithal or the knowledge to be able to translate a shopping flyer, much less the Holy Bible when he was a freshman in college! He would have to know Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, and all the dynamics and transliterations, etc. It takes a very serious and well trained scholar to pull that one off! Where’s the proof, Einstein? What great works have you had published? Show us some proof, man! Even Balaam’s ass talked, and we have proof (Num. 22: 28). You do a lot of talking and you have no proof you did any of this scholarly work!

        Notice, Ron, he says, “retranslating”! Why did the Holy Scriptures have to be retranslated in the first place? Because the WTS told him so! I don’t believe he “retranslated” a single verse, because he wouldn’t be allowed to have his hands on the copies of the original manuscripts! The original manuscripts do not exist! That’s how bad his lies are! This is one of the reasons why so-called churches are going to Hell…to many monkeys have tried their hands at rewriting the Holy Bible! This is why the curse of Rev. 22: 18, 19 is upon them!

        He’s finally admitting the truth when he says, “I’m not part of any religion”! They’re a cult, for all who don’t know any better! Ron, I know you know better.

        The KJV Holy Bible has hidden Bible codes which cannot be found in any other book other than the KJV! That’s the supernatural signature of God, and yet, Mr. E. Richards has “retranslated” the Holy Scriptures. WE should look online to see if we can find his published works… Hmmm…come to think of it, maybe he has…the New World Translation has been rewritten a number of times, to meet their agenda, since the WTS was flatulated upon society!

        When somebody tells anybody they are the ONLY ONES with the truth, it’s time to batten down the hatches, lock the doors, load both barrels and wait for reinforcements, while dodging the bolts of lightning that are hot on their lying tails! Talk to the hand, Emery; my ears aren’t listening any better than yours are! The Lord Jesus Christ saw you coming over 2,000 years ago,and warned us in Mt. 24: 11, “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”! Repent and become a part of God’s real family.

        • Emery

          Skywatcher;
          Since you probably weren’t even born in the 70’s, much less have been there in college with me, you are simply lying. You have no idea what ANYONE has done or not. This does make you the liar I have known you always to be. You claim that college courses in translating those ancient languages couldn’t possibly teach one to translate them, which isn’t possible. And why would they need retranslating? Because most English translations are done falsely. Cross, church, ghost, and other words never appeared in the original texts. That’s why we undertook, in classes, to retranslate scriptures. To find an honest translation. We had found none back then. Having continued this effort for decades more, I did find one that was accurate, and two that came close to being accurate, and the KJV was not on that list. It has so many deliberate errors, that it’s the choice of dishonest people, such as yourself. Stop commenting on things you could not possibly know ANYTHING about. Stop lying.

          • Ron

            For someone that claims to know language what does it matter if for the word “You” would it matter if I use thee, or the letter U in German, French, or any other language you is you.
            But this will be the last thing I say to you…
            I don’t know for sure if you are saved or not as I told one person on these boards based on their doctrine I question whether they are or not. I did not say you are a Goat or unsaved, but I do question it especially now.
            You see I only went to church up to 9 years of age and had very little Bible knowledge and I was in the Hospital at age 30 and I could never come to accepting God as perfect Because of Satan being evil. Because this had troubled me from my childhood since I was brought up in a broken home with an alcoholic mother and smoking at age 7 and demonic influences which I could hear all the time back then. Well The Chaplain came to the ward. I asked him why did God make Satan so evil. He said He Didn’t he corrupted himself because of his beauty and he had freewill to choose. At that moment in my Heart I said “God IS PERFECT AND I BELIEVE EVERY WORD IN THE BIBLE” the only thing I ever read as a child was Revelation. when I said that this wonderful presence came into me, and all day I dwelt on what the chaplain said and that night at my hospital bed as if I had practiced it my whole life. I said I believed Jesus Christ died on the cross for my sins and that I was sinner and please forgive me. That Presence now encompassed my whole Body and at that moment I Knew That I knew God and no longer feared those things spoken of in Revelation and everything that happened to me as a result of being Saved was confirmed by The Bible. My mind was quiet I had eternal peace like never before was no longer stressed out like before and was a calm and no longer potty mouth sailor and let me tell you I used G.D. and J.C. and F.Y. alot a real lot. I didn’t know there was any Holy Spirit when I got saved but I realized that it was He Who came in to my Spirit. But now I know that I know that God’s Holy Spirit resides in me and I am cautioning you that if call me a goat you are in danger of Blasphemy because I am one Christ’s Sheep and I don’t think the Holy Spirit of God likes someone calling someone He Has Sealed up a goat which means a Child of Satan, and if you persist in this you do it to the damning of your soul if you are in fact unsaved.
            Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
            But if insist in calling me or any other of my Brothers and Sisters here that you are verifying what we suspected to begin with.
            My Final Words.

          • Skywatcher

            Where’s your proofs of those things you worked on, mouthpiece? Does your boss, Balaam, know that you’re out on the loose? You should seek for some new pasture, because you’re soiling up this one with your theological droppings! 🙂

          • Emery

            Skywatcher;
            My “Boss” is Jehovah God. And proofs? What in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

            The only things you’re proving in your posts, is that you are NOT Christian. No Christian would ever behave as you are, and would NEVER post what you have posted. You are not Christian, you are part of Christendom, the counterfeit Christianity and it’s many sects/denominations. The religions the scriptures warn us about.

          • Edwitness

            Emery,
            Tell us how those words you say are “incorrectly translated” change the meaning being conveyed in the passages. That is the real issue. Not whether it should be translated “spirit” instead of “ghost” etc… And remember, the translation was done from the mauscripts (textus receptus) into Elizabethan English for the KJV. Not American English. There is a difference there too you know.

            And saying God instead of Jehovah does not change who the believer knows is being spoken about. We all know that Jehovah (Jesus Christ) is God. Except you JWs. That is why you add to the scriptures. So that you can make Jesus part of creation instead of the Creator. The mighty God. This lie will send you to hell. Not whether it should be spirit instead of ghost. Ridiculous!

            The “mistranslations” you referenced are a difference without a distinction. One can easily understand ghost to be the same as spirit. And for that matter, each example you gave makes perfect sense to any true student of the Bible. Not one of these examples makes the KJV “full of errors” as you say. What Christian doesn’t know that the church, congregation, body of Christ, are the true believers all over the world, and not a building? The teaching of Paul makes that abundantly clear. Your “cross, church, ghost, …”makes no difference whatsoever in the power of the Bible, the KJV Bible, to save those who are lost. They are not mistranslations. They are words that make as much sense as the others you gave and mean the same thing.

            But, the same can not be said for the NWT. Because it has taken the deity of Jesus Christ and made Him a man and not the mighty God . Isaiah 9:6 Now that is a mistranslation that will send someone to hell. JWs are a product of freemasonic, luciferian doctrine. Russel was a mason and infused as much of that into JW doctrine as he could get away with. That is why Jesus has to be just a man and not the creator God to JWs. It is a lie Emery. You have been deceived. And this deception that has taken you has kept you from knowing the true God. Jesus is Jehovah!

          • Emery

            Edwitness;
            Simply by virtue of the fact that you ask such a question indicates that you have not got an honest hearted desire to know God, or to draw close to Him, or to know His inspired word. It doesn’t matter to you that what you read as His word, is not what He originally inspired, and does not mean the same as what He had intended. That’s very sad and I am certain it disappoints God greatly.

          • Edwitness

            Emery,
            You have successfully twisted the comments from Skywatcher, Ron , and myself. You prove yourself to be exactly what the watchtower has made you. A liar.

          • Emery

            Edwitness;
            What is it with all of you counterfeit Christians. You all feel the need to attack God’s actual servants, and to lie and name call when you cannot make a valid point from scripture. It certainly proves that you all are not Christian, since you don’t know what God or Jesus taught as far as Christian behavior.

        • Ron

          How true Sky and the FACT That The KJV is not on the SO CALLED LIST PROVES IT IS THE TRUE BIBLE OF GOD!

          Because we know the world accepts everything else that is not a True Bible, anything else goes.

          Whats more one would have to spend the time getting a Doctorates first in the Greek and Hebrew before they could do

          the other and translate these languages freshmen in college don’t have that ability unless they spent their lives

          in Greece and Israel learning Hebrew growing up. Seems to me Baalim’s Ass has more sense than some. On the subs

          we had to know all the systems on it, what tied into, where was their power cutouts, setpoints, damage control

          procedures, just about everything short of taking each of those systems apart. Hydraulics, steering and diving,

          torpedo tubes, sonar, radar everything. And I used to have these new guys, not all, just a few, come up and say

          “you can sign me off on such and such I know it all” And I tell them I’ll be the judge of that and they didn’t

          even know how it worked or where the components were at. You would give them the knowledge but they wouldn’t pay

          attention. And they still thought they knew it all. God Bless You My Brother.

          • Emery

            Ron;
            It wasn’t on the list, because it is so falsely translated. God COMMANDED us to use His NAME, not His title, which is God. The KJV has 7 occurrences of God’s personal name, the NKJV has 0 occurrences of His name, and the original texts have it 7,988 times. KJV mistranslates ecclesia as church, when it only translates into people and/or congregation. Stauros is not cross, it’s stake or pole. Pneumos is not ghost, but is air or spirit. The KJV was not on the list because it has over 20,000 mistranslated words, and no translating of it was done from original texts. It was hurriedly assembled to beat the finishing of the DR by one year. Use what you want, but you are totally misled if you use the KJV or any translation like it. The “true scriptures” are the original letters and scrolls from which it is translated, NOT the KJV. And one does not need a doctorate to translate anything. That’s rediculous. Learning Hebrew growing up is of no value in translating ancient Hebrew, they’re two different languages for all practical purposes. If you weren’t so misinformed, you would know this. So your lack of knowledge of God’s accurate word means you are of the goats, not of the sheep. It’s your choice though. Life, or the death you choose.

          • Emery

            Matthew 10:22 And you will be hated by all people on account of my name, but the one who has ENDURED TO THE END will be saved. You don’t know if you’re saved, because the end has not arrived yet, and you’re not dead yet.

          • Emery

            Maybe this will be of benefit to you Ron:
            Turning to the Bible book of Zephaniah, chapter 2, verses 2 and 3, we read what Jehovah requires for salvation: “Before there comes upon you people the burning anger of Jehovah, before there comes upon you the day of Jehovah’s anger, seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger.” Note the word “probably.” It is not a case of once saved, always saved. Our concealment in that day depends on our continuing to do those three things. We must seek Jehovah, seek righteousness, and seek meekness.

        • Edwitness

          Skywatcher,
          I was going to say something encouraging to Ron like yours, but you said it so well I only felt the need to send him a short exhortation. The end of your next to last paragraph had me laughing out loud. I thought the same thing when Emery said he had been doing that since he was a freshman. WOW! But, it only served to prove that he really has allowed the false message of the JWs to become his own. Deceived for now, but not without the possibility for repentance.

          It’s so crazy when people reject the clear word of God in order to be able to fit it into their deception. “Not literal Israel. Spiritual Israel.” “Not a physical kingdom. A Spiritual one.” People like Emery and TWR use these tricks to make their delusion work. Never mind what the Bible actually says. What really matters to them is that they can force the scripture to align with their pre-conceived ideas about the Bible and God. But, if they, and us too, will let the Bible say what it plainly says….. And notice they always say the KJV Bible is corrupted. And that the “original” says so. All of the cults do the same thing.

          You are such a blessing and Ron too. Thanks for your words of encouragement for the brethren. And sistren. 🙂

          Blessings:-}

          • Skywatcher

            Thank you, my dear brother! I’m always glad to know I can make somebody laugh, while getting the truth of God’s Word across! You’re a huge blessing to me also. Did you see my request today for you to email me at: scotianprince@eastlink.ca? I have something great I want to share with you, Kiwiwatcher, and David Kaus!

            Have you been talking to David lately? I also want to ask you as to how Trent and the family are doing. Looking forward to hearing from you, as are a number of others!!! 🙂

            God bless you!

          • Skywatcher

            Brothers Edwitness, Ron, and all, who are trying to reach Emery…stop now. Tryin’ to reason with him is the same as trying to push an earthworm straight into the ground! He’s got more twists, turns, wiggles, and sliminess than ya can shake a stick at, and his tail is goin’ ta break off one of these days real soon! Why, he’s gonna stand in front of the Creator God (Jesus Christ, Jn. 1: 3,

            **”All things were made by him: and without him was not any thing made that was made.”

            Col. 1: 16, “For by him (Jesus Christ/Yeshua), were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”**

            …and he’s gonna stand right in front of the Almighty and argya wi’ Him, tellin’ Him who he thinks he is, and it aint gonna work! He’ll be a’ standin’ there, nakeder than a cattail blowin’ in da wind, waving his “retranslations”, in the face of the Almighty, declarin’ His sloppiness and carelessness for allowin’ the ole King James Version to be His favorite pick!

            He’s in for a mighty fine and very short tussle with the Creator, and guess who loses? Umm hmm. It will be too late for Emery then; he’ll find he’s hitched his theological pony to the wrong theological railin’! There aint no second chances, ‘cordin’ to Hebrews 9: 27,

            “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”

            I’m o’ the opinion that at that time, he’ll be able to see all the poor souls he’s misled into the great abyss of Hell and ultimately, the lake of fire. He won’t be a’singin’ “Oh Happy Day”! I guess he’ll just have to wait and see now, which one is right. His retranslations or the infallible and inerrant KJV…

            I do declare, Pistol Peter has entered into the corral! Have a great day in service to our Lord, Brethren! 🙂

          • Ron

            Thanks Edwitness and God Bless You for that I see and Sky as my wingmen, and myself yours. I am a one finger typist so I am slow at typing, and after listening to some of the Tripe that gets posted on NTEB and arguing against it I get a little weary, but then The Lord sends You, Sky, or both of You to assist me. I think about Daniels prayers and the angel coming to him…
            Daniel 10:12-13 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
            You Guys are great Spiritual warriors!
            Good Old Spiritual Warfare, it is a Privelege and a Blessing to Know You, Sky, Char, DC, Ky, Larry, and a host of others here God Bless You All!!
            Hang in there we are almost Homeward Bound!

          • Larry/vietnamvet1971

            @ Ron….we understand….. stay Strong in the LORD & the Word,Power of His Might…

            Stay strong in Heart, Stay strong in Mind, Stay strong in Spirit… for HE is our Strength…..

          • Ron

            God Bless You Too Larry Thank You for Your Kind Comments you Stand Strong in The Lord and You don’t back down.
            I will see you in the clouds soon my Brother!

  • Emery

    Matthew 24:9 “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved. 14 And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

  • Skywatcher

    There you have it, folks! Emery is trying to shove the New World Translation of the WTS down your throats! He’s got to be a jack ass, because the “sincere milk” of this word isn’t nourishing to the spirit at all! It’s as twisted as a rattler with multiple breaks in its back! Emery, if you want spiritual warfare, step up to the plate buddy!

    All you JW’s quote Mt. 24: 9 because it’s your theme verse! You’re brainwashed to think you’re being persecuted for righteousness sake, when the truth is that you’re being called out for the lying and demonically possessed cultists that you are! Too many people in the communities know better than to swallow your toxic theology, so don’t think you’re being “persecuted”! You’re being rightly judged!

    You’re like a thief who gets caught red-handed, gets a prison sentence, and then tries to convince himself that he is being persecuted for righteousness sake! There’s no reward in that, buddy! You’re only fooling yourself. Paul nailed that one really good. Unfortunately, I’ve been up since 4 a.m., and the passage won’t come to me right now. If anybody out there can provide that reference, I’d greatly appreciate it!

    As has already been said, your only purpose here is to undermine the faith of others. Shame on you! I believe I just pinned the tail on Balaam’s ass! Nope! I was wrong! God spoke through that one; Satan speaks through this one…

    • Emery

      Skywatcher;
      Again you prove you’re NOT Christian. It’s not necessary for you to do that, since all of your other posts to me already prove it. You’re wasting your time. And I have no “theme verse”. You also claim Jesus started a cult. I assure you, he did no such thing.

      • Skywatcher

        Oil and water, Emery! I have the oil of the Holy Spirit, and you have nothing but muddy water. And yes, all JW’s use that verse as their theme verse. How do I know that? I have DVD’s that prove it, made by ex-JW’s, and I have a friend who is a JW, and it’s been confirmed.

        I’ll see you on the other side…across on the gulf fixed between me and thee. You’ll have a whole eternity to wish you had listened to those who cared enough about you, to try to get you to open your eyes and to see. I made a promise to you several weeks ago, and I’m going to make sure I come good on it! So long.

        • Emery

          Your having God use holy spirit with you is quite unlikely, since you’re part of an apostate religion. Your friends, and those on this dvd of yours are apostate as well, and probably never were God’s witnesses. So it proves absolutely nothing. Nice try.,

  • Ron

    Sky did you see the videos following this one that turn on after about 30 seconds oh my goodness the cover ups and murders
    in Arkansas!
    This makes me think of walking tall and the woman who headed the drug enforcement branch in Arkansas has to be a Born again Christian given the fact they were able so many witnesses but not her and even even calm demeanor in that video almost bears witness. Oh boy if Jezebel gets elected she would become so engorged with power she would think she can now go and have anybody silenced who spoke negative of her. Let us pray to the Lord anybody but her gets elected and if some odd reason Sanders gets it she is not his VP. Evil so evil to kill so many people to protect public officials remember the real Jezebel had the guy murdered who had a vinyard near the kings house because he wouldn’t trade it to Ahab so false witnesses were bought by Jezebel and God Killed her and Ahab both. How very, very evil. You know my autistic son hates the news but anytime she comes on he shakes his fist at her even children know wickedness when they see it. My wife asked him why he does that and he says “She is bad” My son knows Jesus but knows nothing of Hillary except what the Lord put in his Heart.

    • Skywatcher

      No, Ron, I didn’t see any other videos yet; been busy dueling here, answering email, etc. I’ll go back and watch tomorrow. From a distance, as a Canadian, I don’t see a single candidate that is going to be able to do anything positive for the dear USA. Sorry to say that, but I believe God’s judgment is just starting to get underway. I hope for your sakes that I’m wrong.

      That’s an interesting response to Hillery from your son. What has been his reaction to Ovomit?

      We may not be here to see the election, as I’ve said before, but in the meantime, we’ll just keep our eyes upon the Savior, and not upon the billowing waves all around us. He’s the Great Shepherd, and we are the sheep of His pasture; there is no greater shepherd, so we need not fear. Blessings, Bro!

      • Ron

        Watch the videos that follow after this one, if you already saw this one just let it run and keep track of the time and watch the ensuing videos it is HORRIFYING, multiple, multiple murders and cover ups under their time as governor of Arkansas and the county mortician is such a liar and it’s been proved these 2 teenage boys put on the tracks after they were killed. God is watching and they are going to be sorry all who are involved. I haven’t seen Ovomit on TV with my son around I can’t listen to or watch someone who constantly lies.
        God Bless You Sky!

        • Skywatcher

          Thanks, Bro! I’ll try to get to watch them tomorrow…when I’m more awake and alert! God abundantly bless you and your family! Have a great night!

  • Here is the entirety of what Pope Francis says regarding homosexuals in his over 260 page document “Amoris Laetitia”:

    The Church makes her own the attitude of the Lord Jesus, who offers his bound¬less love to each person without exception. During the Synod, we discussed the situation of families whose members include persons who experience same-sex attraction, a situation not easy either for parents or for children. We would like before all else to reaffirm that every person, regardless of sexual orientation, ought to be respected in his or her dignity and treated with consideration, while ‘every sign of unjust discrimination’ is to be carefully avoided, par¬ticularly any form of aggression and violence. Such families should be given respectful pastoral guidance, so that those who manifest a ho¬mosexual orientation can receive the assistance they need to understand and fully carry out God’s will in their lives.
    In discussing the dignity and mission of the family, the Synod Fathers observed that, “as for proposals to place unions between homo¬sexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for mar-riage and family”. It is unacceptable “that local Churches should be subjected to pressure in this matter and that international bodies should make financial aid to poor countries dependent on the introduction of laws to establish ‘mar-riage’ between persons of the same sex”.

  • Ron

    EVERYONE WATCH THE VIDEOS AFTER THIS ONE IT IS BOTH UNBELIEVABLE AND HORRIFYING! THEY WILL COME ON AUTOMATICALLY

    FOLLOWING THIS ONE

    • Skywatcher

      Wow, Ron! I’m watching the next one, One World: Globalism, Anti-christ, and Planet Earth’s Last Days. Extremely important to see! I’ve known this for a few years now, but most people don’t want to hear it, and they try to discredit some of the very educated and knowledgeable speakers that are in it!

      Ron is correct folks, you NEED to see this! There’s info in this that affects us all on a very personal level!

      Thanks, Ron, for “shouting” this one out!

      • Ron

        Sky did you see about the murder coverups in Arkansas? Because that one automatically runs after the video you posted and is about 50 + minutes long and certain people were even more evil than I even thought.

        • Skywatcher

          No, Bro! I didn’t see that one! I saw the next one in the line-up on the righthand side of the page, put out by Jeremiah films! That one is priceless, and a MUST SEE by all who really want to know what’s going on! I’ll look for the one you’re speaking of again. I thought the one I was talking about just now was it!

  • Skywatcher

    For those people who do NOT believe the modern day bibles are heretical and satanic, take a look at this video! Mdme Blavatsky, mentioned many times in this video, was one of the people who worked on these newer versions! She has quite a background. A must see by all who have any doubts about the KJV Holy Bible!!!

    https://youtu.be/JbZitiy8AMs

    When you learn about this madame, you’ll have to ask yourself, “Why would I want a bible that she had anything to do with?”

    • Leigh

      Hi Brother, I see in one of your posts above you mentioned The Bible Code, I have heard my Pastor mention this before, is the Bible Code true? I must say, I have never looked up anything on the Bible Code, so I am totally ignorant on the subject. 🙂

      • Skywatcher

        Hi there, my dear sister, Leigh!

        Sorry for taking so long to get back to you! I was out baptizing worms; full immersion!

        Yes, the Bible codes are real, and very accurate! In many cases, one cannot find any information until after the fact. The letters of each word are precisely of equal distance apart from each other within a text! It’s truly supernatural and amazing!

        Years ago, our dear departed brother, Dr. Grant Jeffrey wrote a book on this, “The Signature of God”. It was absolutely stunning as to what was found back then. Much more has been discovered since the 80’s! I think you might be able to get that book from Amazon.com. It’s mighty interesting read! Another good book is, “The Hidden Bible Codes”, but I forget who wrote that one. In fact, I believe it’s also on DVD.

        • LEIGh

          Thanks so much for always replying to me brother! I will do some reading on this subject. Sounds very interesting. Gods blessings to you for the week ahead!

  • Here are the headlines, sub-headline and editor’s note to this story:

    [Pope Francis Gives An ‘Apostolic Exhortation’ To Accept The Open Homosexual In Catholic Church]

    Pope Francis emphasizes that “unjust discrimination” against gay men and lesbians is unacceptable, downplays the idea of “living in sin,” and suggests that priests should use their own discretion on whether divorced Catholics in new marriages can take Communion.]

    EDITOR’S NOTE: The Catholic Church brags that it never changes, and on some levels we agree with that statement. They were wrong from the moment they were founded by Constantine in 325 AD, and have never been right. But in practical terms, the Roman harlot is changing dramatically as Pope Francis is steadily and firmly letting Catholics know that in the “new” Catholic church, the ‘out-and-active’ LGBT will be welcome with open arms. The Vatican’s official line is that this is ‘not a change of church doctrine’, but it absolutely is. The One World Church is coming together rapidly.]

    I have offered to you the entire text of ‘Amoris Laetitia’ concerning homosexuals. It is not very long. Just two short paragraphs. I have asked the question, “What in this do you find objectionable?”

    So far, no answer.

    I am not surprised. This seems to a common practice among most who post their opinions here. They would rather comment to Geoffrey’s sensation and misleading headlines that address the real truth (I don’t include Ole in this since I am not sure he understood what I was asking).

    I realize that this website does not have truth in its agenda, and even though Geoffrey is responsible for dreaming up the lies that told here, many others are responsible for perpetuating them.

    Jesus is the truth. Those who do not the truth have no part in Him and remain in darkness.

    I will offer one last time. Here is what Pope Francis had to say about homosexuals in the Church:

    [The Church makes her own the attitude of the Lord Jesus, who offers his boundless love to each person without exception. During the Synod, we discussed the situation of families whose members include persons who experience same-sex attraction, a situation not easy either for parents or for children. We would like before all else to reaffirm that every person, regardless of sexual orientation, ought to be respected in his or her dignity and treated with consideration, while ‘every sign of unjust discrimination’ is to be carefully avoided, particularly any form of aggression and violence. Such families should be given respectful pastoral guidance, so that those who manifest a homosexual orientation can receive the assistance they need to understand and fully carry out God’s will in their lives.

    In discussing the dignity and mission of the family, the Synod Fathers observed that, “as for proposals to place unions between homosexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family”. It is unacceptable “that local Churches should be subjected to pressure in this matter and that international bodies should make financial aid to poor countries dependent on the introduction of laws to establish ‘marriage’ between persons of the same sex”.]

    Ok. What is in these statements that you find objectionable?

    • Emery

      Tim;
      I concur on almost all you said in the above post. Beware though, that many will attack claiming what the Catholic Church lyingly claims, that Jesus started their church. He of course did not, as he taught AGAINST churches and religions and even said he hated a sect on more than one occasion.

      Constantine started the largest part of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion who fornicates with the governments of the world. Her sins have piled clear to the heavens, and will be destroyed, along with all of her participants in the tribulation, and in the final battle.

      • Emery,

        Respectfully, I must ask, just what do you concur with?

        You did not answer the question, “What is in these statements that you find objectionable?”

        Then you go on to perpetuate the same kind of baseless statements as this site lives for in saying, “Constantine started the largest part of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion who fornicates with the governments of the world.”

        I am looking for simple, straightforward and gutsy answers from somebody…ANYBODY!

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