Pope Francis Releases A One World Religion Prayer Video Saying All Faiths The Same

It is impossible that the "four major faiths" can ever be united on any sort of "common ground unless that common ground is the fulfillment of the end times prophecy of the apostate One World Religion. Which is exactly what this is all about and exactly was Pope Francis intends to create.
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The Pope’s first-ever video message on his monthly prayer intentions was released Tuesday, highlighting the importance of interreligious dialogue and the beliefs different faith traditions hold in common, such as the figure of God and love.

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:4,5 (KJV)

Pope Francis has sent the first shot across the prophecy bow for 2016, clearly stating his desire to unite the world’s religions and create a one, global religion that will combine elements from Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism. Francis repeatedly states that “we are all children of God” no matter what our faiths or religious beliefs might be.  This is in direct opposition to the Bible which states that only when born again in Jesus Christ alone can we ever be called God’s children.

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:26-28 (KJV)

Islam, Buddhism and Judaism all reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Roman Catholicism makes verbal assent to that fact – but – it is certainly not Biblical Christianity. In fact, the Vatican system, mentioned in Revelation 17 and 18, is the “Whore of Babylon”! Therefore it is impossible that the “four major faiths” can ever be united on any sort of “common ground” unless that common ground is the fulfillment of the end times prophecy of the apostate One World Religion. Which is exactly what this is all about and exactly was Pope Francis intends to create.

–  “Many think differently, feel differently, seeking God or meeting God in different ways. In this crowd, in this range of religions, there is only one certainty that we have for all: we are all children of God,” Pope Francis said in his message, released Jan. 6, the feast of the Epiphany.

At the beginning of the video, a minute-and-a-half long, the Pope cites the fact that the majority of the earth’s inhabitants profess some sort of religious belief. This, he said, “should lead to a dialogue among religions. We should not stop praying for it and collaborating with those who think differently.”

The video goes on to feature representatives of Buddhism, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, who proclaim their respective beliefs in God, Jesus Christ, Allah and Buddha.

Later on, after the Pope affirms that all, regardless of their religious profession, are children of God, the faith leaders state their common belief in love.

The video then features clips of those from different world religions declaring belief in their various deities.

I have confidence in Buddha,” a female lama announces.

I believe in God,” a rabbi affirms.

I believe in Jesus Christ,” a priest states.

I believe in Allah,” an Islamic leader declares.

For the Bible believer, we live in absolutely amazing times as we watch the literal fulfillment of prophecies, some of which were made nearly 2,000 years ago, coming to pass in our seeing and hearing. It is all happening exactly as the Bible declares it would happen. This is the time, ours is the generation, these are the days of prophecy!

Are you ready for what comes next?

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • The King Is Coming….Soon!

    • John C

      I have been praying for this and trying not to get too upset that Jesus hasn’t returned yet. I know it’s in His perfect timing, but I wake up every single day not wanting to wake up anymore; longing to be with my Lord and Savior. My spirit is getting weary.

      I hope you are right!

      Come, Lord Jesus, come!

      • Dianne

        Hello John C, And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. Galatians 6:9

        But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint. Isaiah 40:31

        Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Mathew 11:28

        Stand fast in the word of GOD and never it up, absolutely NEVER!!!

        • aleem

          Can’t imagine what is happening these days…
          https://plus.google.com/108620756836155946365/posts/L9f8NCCecqm

        • Heather

          @ Dianne, these were beautiful verses that you posted in your gracious attempt to comfort brother John C. Thank you!

          • Dianne

            Heather, you are welcome.
            Blessings and peace to you.

        • Lisa

          Dianne thank you so much for those encouraging words of truth….feelin a little weary myself….God always gives up just what we need just when we need it! Blessings in Christ

      • Dianne

        John C, to repeat my last statement. Stand fast in the word of GOD and NEVER give up. Absolutely NEVER.
        PEACE AND BLESSINGS

        • Mary F.

          Amen! Endure to the end, endure.

      • jake

        Hold fast brother, You are greatly loved by God. Know that. And know He will take care of all your needs. Phil 4:19

    • Palisade

      Yea I do not want to make people sad. But the Return of Christ is not going to happen the way you think dear Brethren. Along with the so called rapture theory. Cause that is all it is. Be ready to go and quit looking into the future for Christ to come. He has already come into you if you possess the Holy Spirit and possess HIS CHARACTER. Character is the only thing that is going with you. That is the Mark of God which is against the Worlds Mark of Beast. Take my word for it that is the truth. Jesus did not come the way the Jews thought it either. Is that right or not. Wake up Christian Brothers and Sisters. Christ has already come and living inside of me. NOW its a NOW Message – The Lord told me years ago to start preaching and teaching a NOW message not a future message. Do you all that read this know that you have Christ living in you. IF you doubt it at all. You have better talk to the Lord quickly. I tell you that out of Love for you. Bro. Tom

      • Skywatcher

        Palisade, You have said, “But the Return of Christ is not going to happen the way you think dear Brethren. Along with the so called rapture theory.”

        What do you do then with John 14: 3, where Jesus promises to come back to get us? Or, what do you do with I Thess. 4: 13-18? in which He describes that moment in time? What do you do with I Cor. 15: 50-52?

        You said, “Take my word for it that is the truth.” That’s an extremely dangerous premise upon which to build one’s theology! No offense, but we don’t even know you, so why should we take YOUR word for anything? What you’ve said here so far, is far off the mark, that I definitely wouldn’t take anymore of your teaching and expect to be eternally secure.

        You said, “The Lord told me years ago to start preaching and teaching a NOW message not a future message.”

        Somebody/something told you something, but it wasn’t of the Lord, at least, not in this context! Christ would NEVER contradict Himself! Yes, we are very much aware that the Holy Spirit dwells in us, I Cor. 3: 16, 6: 19. You’re preaching to the choir here, but your theology is seriously lacking!

      • ST.FRANK

        And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south-ZECH 14:4 the king is coming!

      • william

        Palisade …… you say , ” Take my word for it that is the truth “,,, really ??? how about we take Gods word instead , and just where are you getting your theology ? Because it certainly isn’t the bible …The Lord told you ,, how come he told only you and not all of his believers ? You sound a little crazy to be honest . Like someone who thinks that he has some special line to God , We all have the same access to God and the Holy Spirit friend . The bible certainly does teach a rapture , it may not call it such , but it calls it a catching away of the believers in Christ , And then two shall be in the bed , the one taken and the other left behind . Two will be grinding at the mill the one taken , and the other left behind … I shall surly come again , that where i am , there ye shall be also .

    • The Sacrifice Of The wicked Are An Abomination To God! Pro. 15:8

      The Sacrifices of God, are a broken spirit, a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thy will not despise
      see Romans 12:1, 2

      -When Holy Spirits threaten to turn or give up the unrepentant unto the abominable along a reprobate mind that they're unable to do anything of value, this is what it all mean. We think they're sane, when it's so, even gut wrenching apparent that they're not. That like the Israel, the Judahs and Jerusalems doing the days of the prophets, they've just gone to far with their offenses toward God, they're now at that damning point, stage of no return they're just gone, REPENT!Apb, see here, www.repentnow2011.blogpot.com www.thesacrificeofthewicked.blogspot.com

      • Jhouston

        You are missing the mark! God made a covenant with the Jews back in Genesis through Abraham. A covenant is not a contract. Contracts can be broken if one party in the contract defaults. With a covenant, even if one party breaks the covenant, that does not relieve the other party of their obligation. The Jews are God’s chosen people and will always be no matter what. God will never break his covenant with them though they turn their backs on Him. The Tribulation Period will bring the Jews back to God (Christ) the long awaited expected Messiah. The Jews represent mankind in his frailty to stray from God. God will bring them back into His fold through great tribulation. He will never turn His back on them though they have rejected Him. God is faithful even when man is not!

        • Skywatcher57

          Jhouston, you rock! That was a great word, and you nailed it!

    • Mac

      From what the Pope said, “we are all children of God,” this is not true. He is misquoting the scriptures. We are all God’s creation but not all children of God. God gave all of his creation a free will, to choose to surrender our lives to Jesus and become born again. Then, we are adopted in the the family of God and only then are we children of God.

      Scripture says, “You are either serving your father satan or serving your Father God.” If we have not been saved, we are children of satan.

      He also has said, even as Rick Warren has said, “There are many paths to heaven.” But the Bible says, “Narrow is the way. There is only one way to heaven and that’s through Jesus Christ.” Not through Mohammed, or Buddha or any other lesser god.

      Allah is a lesser god, but he is not God. His Quran says to kill the infidels and all Jews. The Holy Bible says, that the Jews are Gods chosen people and he will never forget them, he will protect them and fight for them at the end of days. God says to love your enemies, Allah says to “cut the heads off” of your enemies, an all that will not worship Allah.

      Allah nor Mohammed has ever done any miracles, especially has never done any of the Messianic miracles that were signs of the coming Messiah, Jesus/Yeshuah.

      Again, the Pope and Rick Warren are wrong in their claim that all religions serve and worship the “same” god/God. These are heretical statements deviating from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

      • Skywatcher

        A HUGE AMEN to that, Bro. Mac! Very well presented.

      • Aka glory

        He did create all of us. WITHOUT life we don’t exist. He thought of everyone of us, he knew us before we were in the womb. He created all. But, he created the evil ones and the antichrist to fulfill his word.
        It is up to the rest of us Jew, Muslim, all Gentiles to Be SAVED THRU HIS WORD, that has NOT changed, lied or died. He is not a respector of persons.
        Everyone is expected to find Him and accept and RECEIVE HIM as their savior. You can do it Now before The RAPTURE or wait till the white throne judgment and second death, the day of Judgment for all.
        Read and obey the book of Acts ch. 1-22 & Genesis ch. 11-17 & ISAIAH 28.

      • Jolene

        Amen!

      • BrOoke

        Are you joking, I hope you know that “allah” is the Arabic word for God. It’s not a different god, please do some research before speaking.

        • Skywatcher

          BrOoke, you might want to swallow some of your own medicine. An ignorant comment like that is copious evidence that you know NOTHING about Islam. Allah might be Arabic for god, but it is NOT the God of the Christians.

          Allah is one of 360 different gods that they chose to worship, in hopes they didn’t tick off any one of the others! They had one for each day of the year, and when it got to be too confusing, a group of them got together and decided which one was going to be the “real” god.

          If you have read the Qu ‘ran at all, you would immediately see that he is not the same God of the Holy Bible. The God of the Holy Bible is loving, kind, gracious, forgiving, etc. Allah is the extreme polar opposite, and not once do you EVER see the word “love” in the Qu’ran because according to the Holy Bible, God is love, I John 4: 8, 16.

          The Qu’ran is the most evil and bloodthirsty book I’ve ever read! It treats women and all other non-Muslims worse than dogs , and it preaches that anybody who is not a Muslim MUST BE KILLED, either by crucifixion or by beheading. Does that sound like the God of the Holy Bible to you? God and Allah have NOTHING in common!

          Nowhere does the Holy Bible EVER treat women in such a degrading, disrespectful or deplorable way. Very shortly, you will see how Islam treat their women and the women of N. America. They’re just biding their time at present. In Europe and the UK, they aren’t biding their time, and they’re known as “rapefugees”. There’s a broad hint for you. Men, women and children in these countries are afraid of going outside, going to work, to shop, etc., since these people have moved in. God Almighty is NOT in favor of rape! You might want to do a little research yourself!

  • David Kaus

    The False Prophet, Pope Francis Releases A One World Religion Prayer Video Saying All Faiths The Same.

    Jesus Christ said” I am the way the truth and the life. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.”

    Which person are you going to believe ??? It’s a no brainer. Jesus Christ can not lie. But anti Christ type popes, like Francis, have always lied.

    If you back this pope you just stepped into a world of total paganism, and all it satanic beliefs, and practices.

    And by the way, Kenneth Copeland and his crowd just joined hands with pope Francis. Birds of a feather flock together.

    Get ready for more mystical “experiences” coming out of this Whore church assembly, and lying signs, wonders, and miracles.

    Revelation 18:2
    “And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.”

    Pope Francis and Kenneth Copeland: Grace … – YouTube
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    Kenneth Copeland Recants And Returns To Rome… – YouTube
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    Kenneth Copeland Recants And Returns To Catholicism! …POPE TO COPELAND: CATHOLICS AND …

    • Amen! Jesus Christ, as he is in the scriptures…is the ONLY way to heaven:
      http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/praying-with-people-of-other-religions/

    • Elaine

      Thank you for the videos. This Scripture came to my mind.

      1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

      Saved and kept by His Grace Alone.

      Elaine

      • Grace

        That same scripture has been coming to my mind and heart for several days now, ty for sharing that Elaine, God bless.

        • Elaine

          @ Grace,
          You are most welcome.
          I love your name, it says it all. God Bless

    • Mac

      David, to add to what you are saying, Jesus said in John 8:42 & 44, “Jesus said to them, If God were your father, you would love me: for I came forth and am come from God; for neither have I come of myself, but he sent me.
      (44) You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.”

      What this confirms is that if we love God and He was our Father, we would love Jesus… not Mohammed, not Budha or not any other lesser god. Because you don’t know me (Jesus) or love me, you are serving your father, satan.

      It is saying here that there are only two places you will go when you die, heaven or hell. You are either serving God or your serving satan. You are either either a wicked person or you are a rightesous, all presupposed on the choice you make to give your life to Jesus or not. There is no in between. Even if you do many, many good deeds, giving to the poor, helping the needy, feed the hungry… none of this will make you a good and righteous man. Only being washed in the blood of Jesus can you be righteous. NONE OF YOUR GOOD DEEDS will get you to heaven.

      So the scriptures absolutely tells us that we are not all worshiping or serving the same god/God. And there are not many paths to heaven, there is only one narrow path to heaven and that’s through the door, Jesus Christ.

      • David Kaus

        Mac: I agree, it is only through the shed Blood of Jesus Christ that any one has forgiveness of sins, and is indwelt with The Holy Spirit. Many people profess Jesus Christ as their Saviour but then proclaim that they have recieved the Holy Spirit by a 10 minute exercise, and got an “experience,” and not through repentance, and belief in the shed Blood of Jesus Christ. In addition they claim that their sins were washed away through a water baptism, none of which is biblical. In other words they are professing a works salvation which is no different than what other pagan religions profess in their worship of the god of their choice.

        • Aka glory

          You DON’T really know your bible at all. Keep reading. Washing away sins is all over the NT.
          Get http://www.e-sword.net.
          Then type in search”Wash sins, wash away sins, ” any combo and YOU will see..why John the Baptist was called a Baptist, he was teaching us about water baptism. 3000 obeyed on first day, what is your excuse. Jesus git baptized for an example to follow, he had no sin, he said follow ME.
          Catholics REMOVED ALL TRUTH TO SALVATION. They REMOVED, repentance, burial WASHING in water LIKE HIM, REMOVED His Name in baptism, REMOVED the baptism if the HOLY GHOST WITH SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN TONGUES.
          Also, if you really have repented of your sins, you too can receive the baptism of the Gift of the HOLY GHOST LIKE 120 received in the upper room with speaking in unknown tongues in 10 min.
          It happened for me. Every week I see it. Hear it. Just happened again this past Sunday again. Jan. 17. It happened in both services again as He PROMISED. Watch live video http://www.cfcky.com both AM & PM.

          I have found if it takes a person longer than 10 min to receive it, you probably have some demons that need to go or be cast out first. Usually that is a big block and hinderance to Receiving the baptism of this Free Gift from God to all.
          Since I have been at the Church of the book of Acts for 29+ years, I can speak from the voice of lots of experience in this GIFT from God. It is not the Gift of tongues from Corinthians or Galatians.
          Now, since you have doubt and unbelief, and are deceived about the truth in the word, or you are dealing with an addiction or Pride, it usually takes about three weeks for complete deliverance. Demons layer inside your spirit. So YOU have to bring each demon up to the surface and deal with it. Then repent and cast the demon off. You might need help at a Pentecostal church. Come to ours if you wish.
          Then once Pride, self, all demons are cleaned out of your spirit, there is room for the Holy Spirit, the SUPERNATURAL BLOOD of JESUS CHRIST can FINALLY enter you and you will feel Him Quicken your spirit.
          At that moment the HOLY GHOST enters and you will get “stammering lips” and begin to speak in unknown tongues as the “sign” he gives to all believers who Receive HIM as their SAVIOUR and REDEEMER and LORD. Then get baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for remission of sins, same as Washing them away. Acts 22:16; heb. 10:22; Romans ch.6; Gal. Ch. 1-4. for starters.

          • Listening2all

            Hello Aka glory I have been following your comments and I know you love the Lord Jesus and believe in His Word and the baptism in water and spirit. Just wanted to share this, have you heard of Torben Sondergaard? who is going in the streets preaching the Gospel, baptising in water and asking in Jesus name for the filling of the Holy Spirit, setting the captive free, delivering demons and binding up the years of wounds by the Holy Spirit and authority of Jesus Christ. Here is a youtube called “I got the wrong Christianity” a man who was once Catholic God bless you and keep shouting out to all who will listen about the Gospel. https://youtu.be/mk3fnrNVTgI There is a very soon to be released movie also called The Last Reformation here is what people said who previewed it https://youtu.be/mCDDod_AWgY Our heavenly Father is almighty, and like He said not by might, nor by power but by MY SPIRIT —Zechariah 4:6 and
            My speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power… —1 Corinthians 2:4.

      • Rosavera

        The Pope stated in his ONE MINUTE AND A HALF that we should start a dialogue amongst all of us because WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD… that is the only thing he said, nothing else. He didn’t say about starting a one world religion, he didn’t say that all religions are the same… and you are wrong for faith without works is dead.

        • Mac

          Roserva, I or we all thought that most everyone here have watched most of Pope Francis’ speeches and know what he has said already. He has said before that all religions are serving the same god/God, that there are many paths to heaven, and he has promoted a One World Religion.

          Jesus said that narrow is the way, and no-one can come to the Father except through him. We have already shown through scriptures that Allah is not God, nor is Buddha, Mohammed is not the son of God or the Messiah. A One World Religion is the work of satan and the anti-christ. So to promote these things is helping satan and the anti-christ in his end time agenda. What the Pope has said is heresy and is contrary to what Jesus himself has said.

          I am not against the “man,” Pope Francis, I am against the heretical things he is saying. Not only him but Rick Warren as well. We are to love the person and pray for him, one of God’s creation, but to hate the sin and give the truth against the lies. AS long as there is breath in him, there is the chance that he will repent and get right with God. God said that he is not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
          Mac

        • listening2all

          No living soul since Adam fell or sinned or disobeyed has been a child of God. Jesus was not from the blood line of Adam, therefore his blood was spotless, sinless, unblemished and pure and was walking with the Father, He would call Him my God and my Father, Jesus was called the Son of God and Son of Man (the words “son of” is a term to say in the order of) Only Jesus is the life-giving spirit to us a living soul but only if we choose to believe etc on Jesus by our own freewill. Only when we receive the life-giving spirit that only Jesus can give us then we are called adopted children of God, so for the Pope to say we are all children of God is a lie, we are God’s creation but not His children unless what I stated above. The deceiver is very subtle and crafty in mixing truth with a lie.

        • Dan

          @ Listening2all,

          Thank you for the link to the movie The Last Reformation. After checking it out I as I always do; see if it passes

          the one test I believe should be applied to anything that involves spreading the Gospel; that is IT MUST BE FREE!

          The makers of this film are trusting GOD and they are putting this out at their own expense for free. And I for one

          will be looking forward to watching it.

          • Listening2all

            I agree Dan that it is not right to be making money or asking for money with regards the Gospel. There is only one ministry I have ever really found to have sound teaching and all books and sermons etc can be downloaded for free, in fact this Teacher of the Word does not even like Titles, such as Reverend, Pastor, Deacon, Archbishop etc, he says that he is also a fellow servant of the Lord Jesus Christ and is a brother. He is not for all the signs and wonders people chase after, he believes in deliverance, healing and the gifts of the Holy Spirit and prays for such if someone asks but that is not the main aim of why Jesus came. His name is Zac Poonen http://www.cfcindia.org another ministry was David Wilkerson who I found sound and never asked for money and was always faithful to post out his Newsletters back before emails. Bless you Dan and may the oil of the Holy Spirit continue to light your life for the spreading of the Gospel.

          • Skywatcher

            Dan, I see that Listening2all highly recommended Zac Poonen to you. I’ve only listened to two of his sermons and in both, I found issues. One that really sticks out in my mind is that he is anti-rapture and that should cause great concern. It was months ago, that someone recommended him to me and I’m trying to remember the other issue. I believe the other issue was that he uses the modern day messes that people call “bibles”, per-versions of the Holy Bible. It is rapidly appearing that EVERYBODY has a spirit streak in their shorts these days, as NOBODY is right or in agreement on all points. 🙂 Just a word of caution.

          • Dan

            @Listening2all, I bookmarked the link to make sure I see it when it come out.

            Thanks for the link Zac Pooen. The issue of (profit) in connection with spreading the gospel is something I don’t take lightly and it is a red flag for me and being discerning as to whether or not the message is from GOD. On the point of spreading the gospel ; to me there is only one, and that is
            (do you believe in the resurrection of Jesus) ; that’s it. We can debate everything else. For me I am more interested in knowing who and what we are despite the obvious or to some ;not so obvious.

            Bless you and your walk with the holy spirit Listening2all.

    • Aka glory

      So, David when are YOU GOING, to accept and RECEIVE HIM, Jesus Christ as your Savior?
      So far you are just giving him lip service.
      Watch again Sun. http://www.cfcky.com
      Both videos and get Saved by the blood of JESUS CHRIST who returned as the Holy Ghost for all nations.
      Read BOOK of Acts ch. 1&2;10;19 and then see it Live to all who really DESIRE HIM and RECEIVE the precious blood of Jesus Christ into your heart. He is alive, not dead.

      • Dan

        Geoff for some reason ; not every post has a (leave reply) link under it; I hope you can fix this along with allowing us to edit our posts.

        • Dan

          Skywatcher where did you find Zac Pooen’s belief there is no rapture? Did you come by this from what’s on ZP’s

          website? From the link that L2all gave me ; I don’t see any tribulation material. Just basic teaching of the gospel.

          • Skywatcher

            Oh, Brother Dan! Another brother had emailed a couple of links to Zac’s ministry months ago, I listened, and then moved on. Sorry, I didn’t save the links; his messages were fantastic until he got to those parts. They were originally from his website.

          • Dan

            Sorry SWatcher but in my opinion you should say nothing if you cannot prove what you say is true. How you see this

            differently is proof in and of itself as there is no excuse. We can’t just say this or that without proof; right?

            NO I would reserve my opinion unless I knew for sure and could prove it. How do you think L2all feels?

  • Jimmy

    When are people going to realize that your faith is not worth 15 cent if it’s not based on FACT.

    Might as well say you have faith in the tooth fairy

    • It’s funny, critics have long blasted Dr. Ruckman for his teaching and preaching against the “love gospel”, and in 2016 that’s EXACTLY the angle the Pope is trying to sell the One World Religion from!

      “What a thing man, what a thing. Go kid your grandma!” – PS Ruckman, 1967, Pensacola, FL.

    • Larry / vietnamvet1971

      And HE will give them a Strong Delusion and they will believe the LIE.

    • Jon

      Dear God….thankyou that this mans few words are worth more than the rest of the babble posted put together. AMEN.

      PS; An old saying “When all else fails, try reading the instruction book” comes to mind……how many of you people actually possess a bible, and of those, how many have actually read ANY of it ?…..and of those, how many actually bothered to read it slowly enough for the clarity of the words to sink in ?

    • Mac

      Jimmy, what are you talking about? Faith being based on FACT? Are you saying you don’t believe anything the Bible says because you can’t pin it down to are material, FACT, something you can see and feel?

      Faith in Jesus, who we cannot see or touch, is the very basis for receiving eternal life. Believing that he is the Son of God, believing that he was born of a virgin, and believing that he died on a cross as the Lamb of God, the final sacrifice for all mankind that took upon himself the sins of the world, my sin and your sin, so that we could believe in him, be forgiven, cleansed, and have eternal life.

      I’m sure all of this does seem strange and unbelievable to you, but many of us who have believed, not only believed in Jesus but believe in what he told us to do and what we can do through him, we have seen miracles happen. People being healed from diseases, broken bones instantly healed, people born blind suddenly seeing and many more things. All because we believe and have faith in something that we cannot see or physically prove to someone like you.

      But because we have believed in him, and have FAITH in him, he has made himself real through miracles that only he can do. Because you don’t believe and you refuse to have FAITH in something you can’t prove or see, you will never witness supernatural miracles or have eternal life… unless you take that leap of FAITH and choose to believe.

      I have seen every miracle that I have mentioned happen in real life, and some of these I’ve had the privilege to have had my hands on the person while a miracle happened. I’ve read the prophesies in the Bible that have all come true except for the ones that are very soon to come true. These prophesies can be proven, physically and materially and scientifically. They’ve not only come true, but they have come true to the very minute detail that was prophesied.

      So, maybe now you can see why I believe in Jesus, I believe in miracles, I believe in a heaven and a hell, I believe in salvation through FAITH, not through me doing anything on my own to acquire it or to earn it.

    • Aka glory

      Watch http://www.cfcky.com this past Sunday, live video book of Acts church jan. 17. Both AM & PM services. It us for all, Acts 2:1-47; 8; 10; 11; 16; 19; 22.
      Repeated over and over and over. Been watching 100’s come back to the WILL OF GOD, Jesus Christ who died and shed his precious blood for All of us To receive SALVATION from sin. Watch both videos of a CHURCH ALIVE WITH THE ANOINTED SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD, JESUS CHRIST. we are alive with His Spirit. NOT sitting in the presence of a man, giving dried up sermons without deliverance from sins. Where you walk out the exact same way you came in. We took the “sinners prayer” TO THE NEXT LEVEL…OFF THE PEW AND INTO THE SPIRIT. 10 min. It is for you too.

    • Aka glory

      At http://www.cfcky.com we take FACT AND TRUTH from written ink and the Holy Ghost turns it to Life. It takes it off the page and brings it to Life. It is a LIVING WORD, not to just be memorized, but to “ACT”
      You are no better than a Catholic priest without the Living Spirit of Gid CHANGING LIVES, DELIVERANCE FOR THE CAPTIVES OF PRIDE, DRUGS, DEPRESSION, SUICIDE, PORNOGRAPHY, ETC.
      You are wasting peoples time just “going to church, warming the pew, and No Change happens” , you are nothing but an oracle on a podium from the days of Aristotle.

    • Aka glory

      I say again, watch http://www.cfcky.com. Jan. 17. AM & PM. People come in and NEVER WALK OUT THE SAME, when the Living SPIRIT of the Holy Ghost is ALIVE IN “THE CHURCH” HE CREATED IN THE BOOK OF ACTS. Where all the churches in the bible started.
      If you have Roku streamer,
      Go to: Livestream icon
      Scroll down to “ACCOUNTS” at bottom
      Type in “cfc”
      Search
      Click church icon
      Click picture of Pastor Bates
      Click 3 videos
      Watch AM first
      Watch PM SECOND.
      (If you come back to watch again. You have to erase account name cfc and start over. )
      You will see REPENTANCE at the altar
      You will see baptism of the Gift of Holy Ghost with speaking in unknown tongues. JUST LIKE BOOK OF ACTS ch. 1 -22.
      We baptize under water ONCE a month on last Sunday.
      SEE A CHURCH ALIVE. GOD IS NOT DEAD AT OUR CHURCH. Leave delivered from SIN and changed. We know how to set the captive free and break the chains of bondage to sin and addiction and pride. We read the book of Acts and brought it back to life. The Catholics REMOVED this book and killed it, killing the Living Spirit of Gid, the BLOOD that was shed on the cross. Read last chapter of each gospel and Acts ch. 1 &2.
      We DONT SKIP ANY OF THE WORD OF GOD.
      we use all scriptures for instructions in righteousness and DOCTRINE.

      • David Kaus

        Let me repeat……….stay away from this chruch.

        watch http://www.cfcky.com. and “aka glory.”

    • Dan

      @ Skywatcher, I would make it a point to either say nothing or back up what you say with evidence . In L2all’s defense

      I would expect no less if it were me. Like I said there are no endtimes references (as far as I could tell ) on Zacs

      website.

      • Skywatcher

        Dan, I can appreciate your sentiment, but as you can probably appreciate, I get a lot of email with very interesting links from all my personal friends. I do NOT save them all. However, I do remember being seriously saddened to hear Zac make that claim in whichever link it was, and I refused to listen to him putting Pre-tribbers down any further. Now, unless you go online, and listen to every video he has produced, you’re in the same boat as I; with enough patience, you’ll discover what I said to be true. I’m not in the habit of knocking men of God without just cause.

  • Larry / vietnamvet1971

    I believe the Pope is a False pope giving False hope to Millions of LOST people.

    A Christian Believer.

  • GUEST 2

    Lol, all faiths the same.

    Last time I checked the Bible teaches that Christ died on the cross and the qur’an teaches that He didn’t.

    Well, which is it? You can’t both die and not die! You have to go where the evidence leads. And wouldn’t you know it? The Bible is loaded with historical and prophetic accuracy. Meanwhile, the qur’an still can’t figure out if the world was made in one day, three days, a week, or 50,000 years. Also, it seems to think that sperm comes from the ribs…

    Bizarre.

    • terri

      Actually if you study outside sources as well as the Bible there are PLENTY of people that admit Christ’s death and resurrection.. mention in 1st century less than 30 years after he died. over 500 saw him after crucifixion and this was when the 500 were still alive and they would have said the apostles were liars also Rome admitted his body was not in tomb. Read the 1st century historian who mentions Christ and his followers and if it had not happened human nature being what it is his apostles would not have horrible deaths to creat a law. Paul was boiled alive. Peter crucified upside down. other torn apart by wild animals. Read the history of the Christian church NOT the catholic church which was not around and in fact they accept nothing in the Holy Bible but NO ONE would have died like this or the church would not have grown so much after his death if they had no life changing events. it had grown to thousands less than 100 years after Jesus death and resurrection. even Christians being killed today. a brother of one who had been martyred was asked by an American pastor why they did not fight and the response was they know where they go when they die and they do not want to fight back and kill someone who did not know Jesus. Unfortunately, most will laugh and scoff and what i am saying and will not check into Christianity even after the rapture and their begins to be definite proof God of the Bible exists. it will be pride that will be a persons downfall in those days,
      h

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey, a BIG THANK YOU, for being the diligent and faithful “Watchman ” on the wall. You are ABSOLUTELY correct about this. Please pay heed folks. We must NOT ABANDON the INFALLIBLE AND INERRANT WORDS OF ALMIGHTY GOD!!!Many Blessings to all who continue to stand without wavering.

    Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of His might.
    Put on the whole armour boy God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye maybe able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
    Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
    And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
    Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
    And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
    Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.

    AMEN TO THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!

  • It won’t be long now till the Devil rears his ugly head as god – and the world will follow him! This is a type of sentimental humanistic love that will deceive many: the love of God was the action of sending Christ to die on a cross for SIN… Something the world wants no part in!

  • Paul

    Rev 18:4 – “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”

    Catholics, do you really love Jesus?
    Then obey his loving call and come out of the Roman Catholic Church and trust in Jesus alone and be born again according to the Bible.

    • The call “Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” in Rev 18:4 is not only for Catholics, but for all true believers to come out of all forms of false churches, even all kind of organized religion, not only from Catholic churches. In fact Protestant Churches have become a lot worse than Catholic churches. There are still some kind of holiness left in a Catholic church, but NONE left in protestant Churches. People are still able to pray inside most of Catholic churches, but no more inside a protestant church, because the satanic guitar scratchers won’t allow a true believer to pray even for one second, but will torture them even during what they call “prayer times”, with horrible background noise. And even if by miracle there are 10 seconds of silence, these true believers will already be so much hurt that they won’t be able to concentrate and pray at all. They just leave the new den of thieves they found while trying to find a good church that doesn’t exist anymore…

      • Heather

        Well we see who’s falling over backwards to pull all the harlots together? And which church does Francis lord over? The Mother of harlots. This verses appears to be directed at the One World Religion and by the time Rev 18:4 rolls around they should all be bonded together quite well.

        • Trish

          Who founded your church, on whose authority and in which century. I’ve seen it time and again, these derogatory comments against the Catholic Church, the one church which can trace it’s beginning back to the disciples. And before you claim as many do, in ignorance, that the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church was founded by Constantine, I think I can save you the embarrassment of using that argument. You should search for some information on St Ignatius of Antioch, who was a Catholic bishop in the first century. For the many attacks against, the One, True church, I have seen, I must tell you that Catholic church doesn’t go about tearing apart what you believe. We are secure in the knowledge that we are the One Church. If ‘sola scriptura’, have you missed the many scriptures which testify to the fact that the church should be one, not 40,000 all in disagreement with one another. Also why are divorced people allowed to marry in all churches except the Holy Roman Church. Christ clearly said, ‘if a man should divorce his wife and marry another he is guilty of adultery’. ‘Sola scriptura means quite simply that you will read and study the scriptures you find edifying and ignore the others which don’t suit your beliefs. ‘Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Whatsoever you bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever you loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven’. Christ built a Church, he did not build a bible. In fact, that you have a bible at all is because the Catholic Church had the authority to determine which books were divinely inspired.

          • Skywatcher

            Trish, I hate to break it to you, Dear, but the Roman Catholic cult can trace its roots all the way back to the Tower of Babel in Genesis! It was unholy then, and has only gotten worse throughout its history.

            If you think this cult has the real Holy Spirit, or the love of the REAL Jesus Christ at the top echelons, you might want to go online or somewhere, and get yourself a copy of Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Once you pick it up, you cannot put it down until you finish it!

            What the R.C. cult has done to genuine Bible-believing, Bible-practicing Protestant Christians and others is nothing short of demonic! You or I could not sit down for the next hour and dream up the horrible ways they tortured these dear men, women, and children for their faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ!

            They gouged their eyes out with hot burning pokers; tied them up behind two horses and had them pulled in half; burned them alive at the stake; disemboweled them, tarred and feathered them, and some even used them as human torches to light their gardens (Nero); fed them to the lions or bears; slowly and methodically drowned them, on and on it goes! I’m sorry! Anyone who does that is NOT a Bible Christian, and anyone who believes they are, are seriously deceived, and need to get away from that very unholy institution of devils and demons!

            The Word of God commands us to “come out from among them and be ye separate” (from the worldly systems). You’ve read other posts on here from former Catholics who know what they’re talking about. Let’s see you stand up and defend Jesus Christ as well as you do His antithesis “church”!

            You said, “Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.”

            I can tell you with full assurance that Peter was not THE “Rock”, because Christ is! Furthermore, the R.C. cult would NOT allow Peter to be a pope because he was married, and probably had children!

            You also said, “For the many attacks against, the One, True church, I have seen, I must tell you that Catholic church doesn’t go about tearing apart what you believe.”

            Doesn’t it now! Just a day or two ago, I posted a link to an article condemning the R.C. cult for imprisoning evangelical Christians in Mexico…are you ready for this? Why? They refuse to convert to Roman Catholicim! Yep! That’s some kind of loving church I want to belong to! NEVER!

            Jesus described this mess of manipulators very well in Mt. 7: 22-23.

            And for the record, if you believe your priest really loves and cares about you, ask him to show you where it says in the Holy Bible a priest is NOT to marry. Ask him to SHOW you where it says you’re to pray to Mary or any other dead saint. Ask him to show you where you’re to say “Hail Mary’s” or to pray on a bunch of man-made beads. I dare you! Then come back and let us know the references to the passages you’ve asked him to show you. THEN, I will gladly convert to Roman Catholicism.

            People need to wake up and read the Bible for themselves, to really see what is REALLY in it! It will surprise them; most times, they’re following man’s evil manipulations and NOT God’s Word.

            Come back and let us know your findings!

          • Aka glory

            Thank you Skywatcher for the truth. Trish, the Catholics began in 325AD, by influence from a Carthage pagan named Tertullian and the idolatry STONE masons going out of business. I know your priests have told you that you cannot read your DRV, they have to interpret for you. JESUS, Mary, the whole group, Peter, Pauk, were all Jews. Catholicism was a combo deal started from.the cults of the Mithra, Carthage, Dianna, Hindu Trimurti, Nabatean, etc. Look all those up and study them. The beads, the vestal virgins,incense, water dipping, chanting, praying to Mary, all of it is pagan and None in the bible. The statue of Peter that EVERYONE kisses is actually Jupiter god dragged over to the Vatican. Read Deut. 5 and Exodus 20 and type out the 2nd commandment onto your post. Copy both of them to show me I am wrong. Use DRV, it matches KJV. You wilk be shocked at the truth. Then type out 1 Tim. 4:1-4, post it to this site. You type it. Then go to Titus and type out the verse that says a bishop is to be the husband of ONE WIFE.
            Then go to Acts chap. 2:38, and 10:43-48; type it for us to read from your bible. No skipping any words. YOU TYPE IT AND SHOW US WHAT PETER TOLD THE CATHOLICS AND JEWS AND GENTILES what to do to be saved.
            Then show me in the bible where Peter went to Rome. He never set one toenail in Rome. Only the Rabbi Paul went to Rome with others, but never Peter. If he did prove me wrong with scripture.
            Then show me in the bible where babies were baptized, show me which verse where they baptized a single person in father, son and holy ghost. Show me where they ate bread and wine and called it the body of Christ in the upper room for the baptism of the holy ghost. If you belong to a CHURCH, you have to use scripture to back it up. The DRV does match the KJV for NT and the 10 commandments do too. You need to give us scripture where Mary said to pull out beads and pray 53 hail.Marys to her to get to heaven. If Mary is the way to heaven, then why didn’t she go to Pilate and say take me in my sons place. She never died for your sins. JESUS says in your bible, both the DRV and New Jerusalem bibles. JOHN 14:6 I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the father but by me. So you need to show us all these practices and propaganda you have BEEN taught exactly where they are in the Bible. Scripture and verse. Post it from your bible not quoting the men who rape altar boys and young girls sold to the convents as sex slaves for all the priest’s. My grandmother told us of the plumber who came to our house after cleaning out the plumbing for a convent and all the baby skeletons from the abortions he found in the pipes of the convent, he kept crying and crying on the porch. You have no clue of the millions of children murdered and sold as sex slaves stilk today from.orphanages all over the world. Read From Convent to Pentecost asap. It will open your eyes. See the google images and videos of the Canadian and AMERICAN Indian women and children tortured and buried in mass graves or burned with lime because that dissolves bones. You need to start searching and reading. Go check it out for yourself. My personal testimony of living with Catholicism for over 22 years and sex orgies that the priests conduct with families and at spas and the sex classes at the high schools. They use the schools as bait and traps for getting men into their beds. They are so far from celibacy to the point it is not even in their dictionary. Read Cannon law 1058 to 1098 for heresy, there it is. See Trimurti for the origin of trimity. That is biggest piece of baloney fed to the masses and the Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, etc all fell for that trap. On and on, the evils are worse than you can imagine. Skywatcher came pretty to close to what happened to me and my daughter. The evil is on a scale beyond your wildest imagination. Get out your bible and get saved from the largest demonic cult in.the earth: The Catholic Church. Then go to all the posts and look mine up. I have massive proof posted. And they are the financial for the MUSLIMS. And the JESUITS are the nazis for the Catholics. Start reading and posting scripture. You need to post scripture if it is there. I belong to the CHURCH STARTED in the bible by JESUS CHRIST who is the head of the church, per Colossians Chap. 1;2. He gave commandments to St. Peter and I obeyed what Peter said to do. Go read it, very easy.ch. 2 thru chap. 10, book of Acts. In fact DRV has 10:48 better than KJV. The DRV did not leave out the fukl name JESUS CHRIST. So start reading your bible and obey your bible and you wilk delivered from the exhorcists who deleted scriptures.

          • Aka glory

            I apologize for misspelling words, its late, I missed keys.

          • Paul

            Sorry Trish,you are wrong.
            You need to study history. Pagan Rome put on religious garb and ‘christianized’ pagan temples to maintain power when Rome began to fall and disguised as a church they continued to slaughter millions of Bible believing born again believers since 315 AD. They don’t go around “tearing apart” what we believe because the Vatican controls most if not all protestant seminaries and churches.

            You also need to study Matt.16 again -“Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.” Jesus is responding to Peter’s confession of the question Jesus asked of who men said he was.The text demands that interpretation. THAT’S the ROCK of truth, that Jesus is the promised Christ that the real church is built upon that would never be destroyed. Not a vasilating old testament Jewish fisherman BEFORE the cross. Don’t believe me? Go read Peters epistles. He talks all about the ‘building stones’of Christ’s church of which all true believers are. Any way, Peter was the apostle to the Jews. And according to Jesus Paul was the apostle to the gentiles of which most of the new testament church is made up of and why Paul taught new testament doctrine for the church age. He also had to reprimand Peter publicly for his bad example in the book of Acts.
            Stop believing teachings of men. Nothing like the Bible to straighten out false doctrine.

          • Heather

            @Trish
            Jesus was speaking of Himself being the Rock. He never said,”You Peter are the rock”. What you have stated is just
            another example of the Blasphemies of the Catholic Church. You do realize you have just blasphemed the Lord Jesus. The One True Church is the Body of Christ. It is our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in Whom we are saved through, not the godless Roman Catholic Church! Someday you will realize the chains you are under, see the truth and hopefully break away.

            Isaiah 30:29
            You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival, And gladness of heart as when one marches to the sound
            of the flute, To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.

            Habakkuk 1:1
            Are You not from everlasting, O LORD, my God, my Holy One? We will not die You, O LORD, have appointed them to judge; And You, O Rock, have established them to correct.

            2 Samuel 23:3
            “The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me, ‘He who rules over men
            righteously, Who rules in the fear of God.

            Psalm 42:9
            I will say to God my rock, “Why have You forgotten me? Why do I go mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?”

            The ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH BEAST SYSTEM brutally killed millions of God’s Saints because they would not convert to their pagan so called religion. They couldn’t bare for the Word of God to be published and spread among the people because they knew John exposed them clearly as the Whore System. They wanted to keep all in bondage and still do today!

            Revelation 17:1-6(KJV)
            17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
            2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
            3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a SCARLET coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

            4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having
            a GOLDEN cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
            5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of
            The Earth.
            6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

            Mark 15:15 (NLT)Jesus’ Trial before Pilate
            15 Very early in the morning the leading priests, the elders, and the teachers of religious law—the entire high council[a]—met to discuss their next step. They bound Jesus, led him away, and took him to Pilate, the ROMAN governor.

            Matthew 27:27-28 KJV
            27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
            28 And they stripped him, and put on him a SCARLET robe.

            It’s interesting that Matthew made mention of the color robe that the ROMAN soldiers put on Jesus. Every time we see the ROMAN Catholic Church in their masses, they are carring a cup in their hand. What kind of cup you ask? A GOLDEN cup!

      • Mac

        You may be able to pray in a Catholic Church, but whom are you praying to. Are you praying to one of the Saints made of clay, pottery or stone? Are you actually praying to an idol? Are you praying to Mary? No disrespect to Mary the Mother of Jesus, but the Jesus himself taught us how to pray saying, “Our Father which art in Heaven…”
        not to Mary or anyone else. Jesus is our advocate before the our Father God in Heaven. He said not to call anyone else Father because there was only one Father and that was our Father God in Heaven. The scriptures say not to worship or pray to any graven images.

        So with that, it would seem very hard to pray in a Catholic Church. Especially if you are taught to pray to one of the Saints images or to Mary.

        • @Mac:
          No, when I am saying that I am able to pray in a Catholic church, I means to pray “Our Father which art in Heaven…”. I don’t pray to Mary, I don’t bow before any clay, pottery, or stone. A lot of Catholic churches have their doors open all day long and everybody is free to enter and pray. Even if I stay there during a mass, when people pray to mary, I am still able to pray “Our Father which art in Heaven…”, because they don’t make noise. Now try to pray in a Baptist church, unless he is deaf, a TRUE Christian won’t be able to pray there at all, not even on the parking lot of that church! And when there is no service in the church, the doors are closed, with an alarm installed!

      • rosavera

        Marc… how can you say such lies…? No one has left the Protestant church…? Have you read this where and how do you come to such conclusions without any knowledge…? Have you and all others in this group thought about that you may actually be doing the devil’s work in demonizing other Christians…? Our Lord never said to stop others who preached in His name nor did He ever say to speak against others who followed Him, yet you all do…

        • Rosavera, I have tryied to find a “good” church here in a city in Canada. After having gone to tens of churches where I was tortured by the electric guitar scratchers, I decided to find another way to save time and gas: I took a guide and phoned to more that one hundred of the churches that were listed in that guide to ask questions about their service, etc. saying that I am a Christian (and also a classic musician) that want to find a church where I can pray and hear God’s word instead of being badly entertained, without being tortured by demonic rock / pop / metal / electric music. From these 100 more churches, I found NONE! NOT EVEN ONE! I was even insulted over the phone!

          I am NOT doing the devil’s work in demonizing other Christians, the pastors in these flase “churches” are not true Christians, they are ravening wolves in sheep’s clothing. The gospel they preach is a false watered down gospel, the “Jesus” they preach is NOT the true Jesus, it’s a counterfeit Jesus of entertainment preached to people that like sensual music, sensual mood, or deafening noise, cinema and sport, that are bored by quiet Bible studies and noiseless prayer times. There is nothing bad to denounce these devil dens of thieves, and I will continue to do it until the true Christ returns.

          • Skywatcher

            That’s the spirit, Marc! As a Canadian, I can relate to what you have stated. I had the same experience! If you want to get a real good tongue lashing, tell them they’re using counterfeit bibles! Stand way back! 🙂

            I believe it is time that we got back to the basics and started having church the way they used to in the first century…in homes! There’s a huge call for that these days, the trouble is, one really wants to make sure the leader(s) are well in tune and in step with the Word and the Holy Spirit!

  • aka glory

    What a laugh, he needs to sign into this chatroom and join the discussions and the POPE will see the truth…not all religions are the same…ONLY THE KJV bible is the SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. Go Geoffrey….
    Plus in May 2014, I have a picture and documents of this very KENNETH COPELAND and the Israeli prime minister and the POPE and a muslim caliph, and JOEL OSTEEN all arm in arm, together in group picture, after their ONE WORLD SUMMIT MEETING DISCUSSING THE ONE WORLD RELIGION, THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH TOGETHER….it opened its doors last year in Brazil, i have photos of inside and outside and they are already holding services in the country of the POPE . Watch for JOEL OSTEEN TO EMBRACE THE POPE NEXT. Joel Osteen is so NEW AGE….i saw that the first time he hit tv. Picked up on HIS ‘SPIRIT’ immediately.

    The Pope is the Antichrist, the white horse of revelations
    His other cohert is the BLACK POPE, Superior JESUIT general Adolfo Nicolas, the black horse of revelations over the Mammon of the world and he became advisor to Obama in 2008
    The muslims are the red horse of blood shed
    The pale horse is death from famine, plagues, diseases, drugs, murder, suicide, etc.
    all these horses are here and those four seals are opened and they are galloping across the world doing their evil and destruction.
    *** The three horns are the LAST THREE “CITY-STATES” WHO RULE THE WORLD, they have their own flag, rules, governing body, and constitution of laws, they rule themselves: WASHINGTON DC. THE CITY OF LONDON (ROTHSCHILD DOMAIN). AND THE VATICAN THE MOTHER OF THE THREE….a smaller horn is Prince William, see his coat of arms.
    the 10 HORNS ARE THE 10 CARDINALS, IN RED, that rule from the HOLY SEE, the ROMAN CURIA, under the word: click on wikipedia: congregations…and you will see WHAT PART OF THE WORLD THEY RULE OVER. All 10 Cardinals are kings without a country…they rule the entire world in their area of expertise or department. Not just a country. THE VATICAN RULE.
    See where the EXTREME OATH OF THE JESUITS is filed as a BILL INTO THE CONSTITUTION AT WASHINGTON DC….read that oath.

    Then ask yourself, how much does the VATICAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OWN? Almost all the property in the world except for China. The USA is their last ‘FREE’ piece of land to conquer for ROMAN IMPERIALISM. WE are the last target of ownership for the POPE. (China is another story)

    Don’t forget to flip his emblem: ‘IHS’ UPSIDE DOWN….now what does it say? SHI for SHIVA, THE god of destruction and the mascot to CERN. google images for CERN ATLAS BUILDING and see the mascot…that is the HINDU VEDIC GOD OF DESTRUCTION: SHIVA it is a man with makeup…now google the basis of TRINITY= TRIMURTI…and see his other two persons in the HINDU GODHEAD….and the CATHOLIC WAFER MONSTRACE….it all matches, crescent moon and solar disc in the Hindu Vedic fertility lingam, the ankh, or called the Shiva. Google image of OTTOMAN EMPIRE flag from the 1700’s matches the LOYOLA JESUIT COAT OF ARMS TO THE DOTS ….they are arm in arm with the MUSLIMS to kill JEWS…the Catholic church is funding the JIHAD to take out the JEWS. The catholics have been known for centuries to purify the world of JEWS…

    • Mac

      The Pope is not the anti-christ as you proclaim. He doesn’t fit any of the scriptures that describe him. He “possibly” could be the false prophet, but not the anti-christ.

      In this One World Governmental System, there will be a One World Ruler, (one world President if you will), and a One World Religious Leader. There will be quite a few jockying for this position, Rick Warren, the Pope, and maybe Kenneth Copeland or Joel Osteen.

      The anti-christ, whomever he will be, is completely controlled and possessed by satan. He will have a False Prophet working with him and the Beast. The Beast will be a graven image but the anti-christ will somehow give it life and it will be able to move and speak. It says that the anit-christ will do many signs, miracles and wonders to deceive even the Elect if it were possible. And… he is known or revealed in the very middle of the 7 year Peace Treaty between Israel and her enemies (some will call it the 7 year tribulation period).

      If you believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, then you will have nothing to worry about, when it comes to the anti-christ. But if you believe in a Post-Trib or better known as a Pre-Wrath view, you will see it all happen except for the Wrath of God, a very short time at the very end of the 7 years Peace Treaty or Tribulation.

      Many Pastors, Theologians and Eschatology teachers have told us that the entire 7 years is the Wrath of God, but this is absolutely NOT what the Bible teaches. The first 3 1/2 years or rather peaceful. A Charismatic man (who will be later known as the anti-christ) comes on the scene and solves all the problems of the world… famine, financial, wars, and religious rebellions. In the middle of the 7 years, he goes into the Temple desecrating it by declaring to be god himself. The Jews then know he is the prophesied anti-christ and exposes him to the world. He then stops the morning and evening sacrifices and declares war on Israel. Israel flees to the mountains and this time period (from the middle of the 7 years until the end of the 7 years, just before the Wrath of God) is called the Wrath of Satan and or the Great Tribulation period.

      I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind on how you believe on the final 7 years. I am just sharing what I have found in the scriptures for myself. Pre-trib just never made sense to me. Here are just a few of the primary scriptures that changed my mind that you can look at for yourself and decide for yourself. 2Thes.2:1-4, Dan.9:27, Matt.24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27 and final one that finished it for me, Rev.20:4-6. Rev.20 tells us who are included in the rapture, the tribulation saints. Therefore if the tribulations Saints are in the rapture, then there absolutely cannot be a pre-tribulation rapture.

      Like I said, not trying to change anyone’s mind, just showing you what I have found in the scriptures that changed my mind on a pre-trib rapture. Of course there are many more scriptures, but these are the ones that clinched it for me, these are the ones that I could not dispute or go any further in my belief in a pre-trib rapture. I would have to call Paul, Jesus, Daniel and John a liar if I were to continue to believe in a pre-trib rapture, and I was not prepared to do that.
      Mac

      • Aka glory

        In Daniel the Antichrist doesnt have desire for women. Both Ken and Joel are married.
        Antichrist doesn’t get possessed with satan till mid-trib, when he has a fatal accident and the resurrects him.
        The antichrist comes on the scene in the beginning speaking Peace and Love.
        I going with Carson, and betting Joel or Ken are false prophet and like that analogy to John the Baptist, where the false prophet will “prepare the way” and show us THE WAY to the Antichrist. I wonder if he will.use the same words. I wonder what he will.use to draw crowds? It definitely wont be repentance or maybe to.join the Catholic nazi regime.

    • Heather

      aka glory, I am replying to your reply to Trish. Preach it brother aka glory! Amen and amen! We are to stand up for the Word of the Living God and against the Blasphemies of the pagan cult, beast system of the RCC because they blaspheme God day after day after day!

  • Carlos

    Father Gabriel Amorth head of catholic exorsits said that this video is a mistake And I agree as a catholic.

    • Skywatcher

      Carlos, what did he mean by “mistake”? The release of the video, or what was happening in it was a mistake?

    • TheGreatTroy

      Carlos,

      And your point is ?

  • Gerardo Rivera

    Bible: The end times will have a one-world religion and, at the end, Jesus will destroy it and establish his own kingdom in its place for 1000 years.

    Pope: Let’s have a one-world religion!

    …seems someone doesn’t read their Bible!

    • aka glory

      Correct and the POPE will start the black ball rolling when he announces to the world HIS PEACE COVENANT. His new ROMANA PAX, they have been doing this same thing for centuries. thy have drafts to follow in the basement of the Vatican. We are down to the LAST three city-states that rule the world. eventually it will all be under ROMAN RULE. And the sooner, it happens, the sooner we are out of here. READ THE EXTREME OATH OF THE JESUITS, WRITTEN BY THE LOYOLA IN 1541 …IT IS POSTED ON INTERNET AND FILED INTO LAW.

      And JESUS CHRIST will come and rule the world from the NEW JERUSALEM after he takes out the Antichrist and cleans this earth with fire and etc. Jesus will return as the LORD of LORDS and the KING OF KINGS and ONE BIBLE FOR ALL. Yea….no more debates. (It does get us to read more).

      WHITE HORSE SEAL ONE: POPE FRANCIS, THE ANTICHRIST, comes in smooth and PEACEFUL and loving and ONE WORLD PEACEMAKER, the wolf in WHITE SHEEPS CLOTHING. He is already dressed for the part. and on HIS WHITE HORSE, THE POPEMOBILE.
      BLACK HORSE SEAL TWO: SUPERIOR GENERAL JESUIT ADOLFO NICOLAS, aka: the ‘THE BLACK POPE’ cause he always wears BLACK, the FALSE PROPHET, over mammon and the balances, the world economy, over WASHINGTON DC AND THE CITY OF LONDON bank. He will do the magic tricks for the white pope. He has already created and erected huge images of the pope to bow down and worship too across the world, big ones, 45 feet tall in france is already up and more.
      RED HORSE SEAL THREE: JIHAD, ISLAMIC MUSLIMS, blood shed….i do not need i say more.The five pillars of Islam and pillar number three commands them to kill for charity and each family gets over $25,000 for a suicide bombing, that is how they give to ISLAM. sacrificing a family member to allah. The San Bernadino Jihad mother got over $28,000 direct deposit the week before the killings. Listen to the news and catch the dollar amount. It fulfills Pillar no. three, which is also a HINDU version of their five pillars, but added killing from the Quraysh tribes.
      PALE HORSE SEAL FOUR: DEATH, FAMINE, DISEASE, EBOLA, DRUGS, SUICIDE, MURDERS…

      We are really getting close to wrapping this up…and they already have the ONE WORLD UNIVERSAL RELIGION GOING IN BRAZIL….SEE GOOGLE IMAGES…see all the symbols.

      BE YE READY FOR THE RAPTURE; ACTS 2:38; 19:1-6….GOD BLESS

  • Taylor

    Come, Lord Jesus! There is a spiritual awakening going on right now with his people. The Holy Spirit is being poured out, making the true Church bold as lions in these last seconds of human history. Thank you Jesus, you ALONE are God! God bless your ministry, Geoffery! My husband and I have been following NTEB for sometime now. May the Lord bless you, and keep you. May he make his face shine on you. Num 6:24-25

    • aka glory

      YES, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS BEING POURED OUT….THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TO TRY TO TELL EVERYONE…..ACTS CHAP. 2-THRU CHAP. 22:16….JEW, SAMARITAN, GENTILE IT IS FOR ALL…….GET YE BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY GHOST AND YOU WILL ALL SPEAK IN UNKNOWN TONGUES. . THIS IS NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES FROM CORINTHIANS, GALATIONS OR ANY WHERE ELSE. IT IS THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST IN THE BOOK OF ACT….SEE ISAIAH 28 AND JOEL…GOD BLESS….HE IS COMING SOON…..AND IS LOOKING FOR A DEEPER RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL. DEEPER DEEPER INTO HIS SPIRIT…..

  • Tusitala

    ” Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

  • john

    interesting

  • Carl Smuck

    This once great nation now known as Obamaland is the Whore Of Babylon that will be destroyed in one hour. When Barack Obama becomes the new Secretary General of the UN he will become the Antichrist of Revelation. Or he will become the Antichrist after he becomes the Secretary General of the UN and then someone tries to kill him. Maybe someone in Israel who hates Obama will shoot Barack Obama in the head after he becomes Secretary General of the UN. All of this stuff will happen after the pre-tribulation rapture or harpazo. Barack Obama cannot become the Antichrist until after the harpazo or rapture. At that point almost everyone will worship Barack Obama because the Holy Spirit will be gone from the earth. It will be very hard for anyone who is a Christian to follow Jesus without the Holy Spirit leading, guiding and directing said person. Said Christians after the rapture will be hunted down like wild animals. If they refuse the mark of the beast they will be beheaded. Muslims will be doing the beheading because Muslims like to execute the people they think are infidels by chopping their heads off. Barack Obama will be the boss over his demon possessed buddy Pope Francis. Satan, Barack Obama and Pope Francis will complete what is called the unholy trinity.

    • Dianne

      Carl, I ‘ve seen a lot of FALSE prophecies come and go over many years. Yours will too be on that list.

      • Kiwiwatcher

        Yawn….so true Dianne. If only someone would go through all the predictions, list the errors and confront the ill-informed authors of such rubbish, because they are still at the game -spewing forth their lies.

        The antichrist will make Obama and pope Francis appear as clean cut boy-scouts on a fundraising exercise.

        • Dianne

          Kiwiwatcher, I agree. ” The antichrist will make Obama and pope Francis appear as clean cut boy-scouts on a fundraising exercise.”
          Lol, what a witty remark. I hope others stay in the WORD OF GOD and not run after the poplar misinformation.
          Peace and blessings

    • Skywatcher

      Carl Smuck, I can’t find fault with your speculations because it appears this may be the way things play out. For many years, I was led to believe that the Whore of Babylon was the R.C. cult. But now…many years later, I’m wondering why it cannot be the literal Babylon? After all…she is still an existing country (Iraq, for those who aren’t aware), and she is a huge power broker in the Muslim affairs…

      When you said, “If they refuse the mark of the beast they will be beheaded. Muslims will be doing the beheading because Muslims like to execute the people they think are infidels by chopping their heads off.”,

      I suddenly had some “dots connect”. This is why they are polluting the cities and smaller towns with them…so the assassins will be strategically located, so people will have no place to run to for safety! In N. America, they have sleeper cells and mosques popping up everywhere; worse than zits on a thirteen year old’s face!

      If we are still here to witness any of these horrors, now is the time for us to be praying that God will strengthen and prepare us to walk through that fiery furnace! He won’t allow us to go through it alone; He’ll be there every step of the way, Heb. 13: 5. And, should they kill our bodies, we will immediately vacate them and be in Heaven before our blood hits the ground! The body will be numbed by shock and we’ll be shocked at first glance of our wonderful Savior! “Bless the Lord, oh my soul, and all that is within me bless His holy name”!!!

  • Skywatcher

    Well folks, there you have it! Satan is using the slimiest and most deceptive method to bring the pack of bloodhounds together with which to chase us down!

  • Rev. Jay Young

    I am proud to be a believer and am proud to see the pope trying to bring everyone together , even the muslims i call my friends are believing in Christ. When the Quran was written only the Old Testament existed. More and more people are believing in Christ. I wish people would stop being negative and put their faith in GOD.

    • Dianne

      Rev. Jay Young, You should be proclaiming the TRUTH that is in GOD’s word instead of declaring your pride in a Pope who is in ERROR according to scripture.

      John 14:6 I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. NO MAN cometh unto the Father but by ME.

      • aka glory

        AMEN

    • Skywatcher

      Rev. Jay Young, if you’re swallowing this ecumenical crap, then you’re not a friend of Christ! A friend of the world cannot be a friend of Christ. I don’t know where you got your “Rev” credentials from, but you obviously did NOT study Church History along the way! What the popery/Vatican did to real born again, genuine blood-bought Protestant Christians and others in fairly recent history, is enough to make Freddie Cruger (Nightmare on Elmstreet) look like an angelic choir boy!

      You said, “I am proud to be a believer…”

      Please let me inform you from God’s Word that being a “believer” is NOT enough. See James 2: 19, “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble.” (emphasis added)

      What hope do the devils have of salvation? NONE! Unless you have recognized that you are a sinner, repented of your sins and confessed them to Christ, asking for His forgiveness and washing by His precious blood, you are merely a “believer”, and not a child of God. A mouse can sit in a cookie jar for six weeks, believing he’s going to become a coconut macaroon, but he ends up a rotten, stinking and DEAD mouse! A person can warm a church pew for 80 years, believing they’re going to Heaven, but until they receive Christ as their own personal Savior and LORD, they are nothing more than a church goer, and not a Christian! You get the picture. See: John 3: 5-7; Rom. 3: 23; Rom. 6: 23; I Jn. 1: 9; Acts 16: 31; Eph. 2: 8, 9. I could go on and on, and I’m hoping this is not “new” to you.

      Jesus Christ said, “…If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me”

      …NOT the pope, not Allah, Krishna, the president,a movement, a particular denomination, etc. FOLLOW HIM!

      In John 14: 6, Christ made a statement that NO OTHER religious leader ever made or COULD EVER make, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father but by me.”

      This hodgepodge of religions, customs, cultures, and “traditions” coming together are NOT paying any heed to that revelation. They will pay dearly for it, as Christ said,

      “Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.” Mt. 15: 24.

      I really hope you’re not one of those blind leaders, Jay…

      Jay, take a few cents and buy yourself a copy of Foxe’s Book of Martyrs on Ebay or Amazon, and see what the R.C. cult did to the real children of God! PURE EVIL!!!!! Stuff, that you or I couldn’t even begin to imagine, i.e. tying Christians up between two horses and having them pulled in half; burned at the stake, gutted alive; disemboweled, tarred and feathered and lit up as torches to light gardens and pathways, drowned, beheaded, eyes gouged out with hot pokers, etc. etc.! Then prepare yourself and your family for the same…in the very NEAR Future! This stunt the sock puppet (pope) is now pulling, is merely calling the pack in to round us up like “sheep being led to the slaughter”.

      Can you see yourself being a part of that? Check out 2 Thess. 2: 11 and contemplate “strong delusion” and see how that MAY affect you shortly. The choice is yours!

      This is history repeating itself again; the witch hunts are coming to a town near you, and we’ll see just how friendly your Muslim “friends” really are!

      I trust you do know that the Islamic “christ” is NOT the Christ of the Holy Bible, right?
      You do know that Muslim clerics shout it from their platforms, soapboxes, minarets, etc. that “ALL Muslims hate infidels (you and I) or they are NOT true Muslims”? If you don’t know that, then you should go to a garage sale and get yourself a copy of the Qu ‘ran, where it is all printed in black and white! Under their friendly exterior, your “Muslim friends” HATE YOUR GUTS and the dirt you walk upon! Muslims raised in that culture are brainwashed to hate ALL others from the time they start to learn to talk! They are taught rhymes about it; they are taught the verses in the Qu ‘ran that demand it; they are indoctrinated in their schools, TV shows, music, etc. Islam is nothing but pure hate and bloodthirstiness. I know because I have the Qu ‘ran and I have seen it’s teachings. Satanic to the core!

      I was on Walid Shoebat’s (a former Muslim) website the other day (www.shoebat.com), and I saw something that NO human eyes should ever see! Video footage of headless and gutted Christians hanging on meat hooks in human slaughter houses! Heads on the floor, up against the wall, and dismembered bodies on the butcher’s table! This is what they do to Christians, Pal! The person who got the footage said these bodies were reserved to sacrifice to Allah! Christians are more favorable to Allah…

      You think they’re your friends; they’re the worst enemy anybody could have…UNTIL they repent and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

      I don’t mean to be unkind or insensitive, but if you’re that easily deceived, you DO NOT have the Holy Spirit of God dwelling within you! For, He would have alerted you that something smelly was in the air! This is the ecumenical apostate Satanic church of the last days coming together. You have a choice: you can come together with them, or you can come together with the true body of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, in the clouds of the air, and escape this horrible future, I Thess. 13-18.

      It’s time for all of us who call ourselves “Christians” to wake up, and to really see whose drum beat we are following, and if we have been duped or not. There is some mighty serious deception going on in the so-called household of faith in these last days.

      • Dianne

        Skywatcher, BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO!!!!
        I hope Jay HEARS YOU LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!
        Amen Brother, said like a REAL CHRISTIAN.

        • Mark

          Or a real Pharisee. Seems they are still alive and well in the modern era.

      • aka glory

        AMEN AGAIN

      • aka glory

        PREACH IT. THE LADY THAT CAME TO OUR CHURCH A MONTH AGO, USED TO BE MUSLIM FOR YEARS. She said it started out nice, praying to god (generic allah) five times a day and it was ok, then said it got real ugly. THE MEN STUCK A LOADED GUN INSIDE HER MOUTH AND ANOTHER INCIDENT WITH A GUN. She ran for her life with her children and was living on the streets here in the USA to escape the Quran reading Muhammad Islam followers. She found our church, I met her that night. The next day i met her again in church and she repented and prayed through to the baptism of the HOly Ghost which was poured out on her from heaven. In 10 min. she was speaking in unknown tongues and was so blessed. She is on fire for JESUS CHRIST now. PRAISE THE LORD…allah is nothing but a generic arabic hindu term for god, IT IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD, HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST, IN ANY LANGUAGE, INCLUDING ISLAM…IT IS JESUS CHRIST, THE KING OF KINGS, THE LORD OF LORDS AND HIS NAME IS ON HIS VESTURE: THE WORD OF GOD. God Bless…Get Acts 2:1-47 to 22:16 today….hurry up. He is on the horizon coming for his church….

    • Kiwiwatcher

      Rev J Young – The New Testament was copied and disseminated during the lives of the writers. The rule of thumb is that errors will creep into manuscripts if two generations pass before the original word is committed to ‘paper.’ Therefore, the accuracy of the New Testament is fully mandated. ‘Other books’ of a latter period fall well short of this criteria, and accordingly are dismissed as being relevant to the Scriptures.
      Matthew written AD 35
      James AD40-41
      Mark AD42
      John AD42
      1 Thessalonians AD50
      2 Thessalonians AD51
      Galatians AD53 during the spring
      1 Corinthians AD56 during late winter
      2 Corinthians AD57 during late summer
      Romans AD57 late winter
      Luke AD59
      Ephesians, Philppians, Colessians, Philemon, Hebrews. AD61-63
      Acts 63, 1 Timothy, Titus AD63
      1 John, 2 John, 3 John AD63-64
      1 Peter, 2 Peter, AD65-66
      Jude AD66-67
      2 Timothy AD67
      Revelation AD95

      When was the Quran written?

      • Skywatcher

        Kiwiwatcher, that was an excellent point! Thank you, for that!

      • aka glory

        Make sure this gets the writer who even thinks the QU’RAN is inspired of the LORD GOD JEHOVAH…the Quran is a piece of garbage, written by the Quraysh tribes, who were originally from HINDU VEDAS and made the Kaaba in Mecca way before Muhammad was even born. If you look at the aerial shot of Mecca and dome of the Rock, it is ALL HINDU VEDIC TRIMURTI ORIGIN FROM SHIVA, VISHNU, BRAHMAN paganism. The Name allah is just a generic arabic term for god, like elohim hebrew, theos in Greek, Dios in latin, God in english. Muhammad is a descendant of the concubine slave, Hagar, and Ishmael, born out of wedlock. He was illegitimate. The bible says they will always be at war with the son of the Promise: Isaac on the other hand was born from Sarah, and bore the son of the PROMISE, the Line of Israel thru Jacob, to line of David to JESUS. Muhammad is a false prophet of the Quraysh tribe and was thrown out of Mecca and went to Medina and got some relatives and friends in the tribe and came back. He walked into the HINDU TEMPLE in Mecca, a huge trading and sacrifice center on the edge of sea to INDIA and the LEVANT and ITALIANS, etc. Muhammad walked into the KAABA HINDU temple, and removed 360 god statues set in each niche which are still inside the mosque. He destroyed Allah, one of the many statues but used his name to worship as the one god. Then he went outside and climbed on the roof and took down the MOON GOD, HUBAL to Baal statue which was on all those ‘PHALLUS” columns, like the one in Rome, it had one too of Hubal. He replace the statue of Habul with the CRESCENT MOON, why? cause it represents the fake pagan moon god, Habul. Habuls, cohort in paganis is 1000 miles down the street in Babylon, the temple of ISHTAR to the sun, fertility and talked to animals. That Kaaba is nothing but a HINDU VEDAS FERILITY LINGAM, with a woman’s womb, opening on the side, that the HINDUs used to put in human sacrifices or camel sacrifices, old HINDU custom adopted by the Quraysh tribe in killing. The Muhammad Quraysh group were nomad killers and still are today. The festival once a year, they kill 100’s camels, cows, etc in a blood bath all over Mecca and Dome of Rock. They don’t have a clue to who Jesus Christ is or they would have figured out no one needs to kill animals anymore. He paid the price for sin. I went to the Mosque in our city and listened to the lecture and it was pure nonsense. The lady had no clue who mother mary was, and was not baptised in the Gift of the Holy Ghost like i did and Mary did in the upper room. She raved about the son, Ishmael of the concubine and called they kid a prophet. Complete nonsense. She did not mention Isaac or Jacob. The Muslims were called INFIDELS in Italy in 1492 by the Roman Catholics. The OTTOMAN EMPIRE flag matched the pagan Jesuit coat of arms for centuries. The crescent moon on the flag is for HUBUL the god of the moon, the star is for ISHTAR, the babylonian goddess of the sun and fertility. When you break down the caliph signature to allah, the 5th letter has the SHIVA disc of destruction in the signature, the sword for killing is the 7th, the 3rd and 4th say the I AM, which allah is not. allah is not a NAME OF GOD, it is old arabic, old hinduism for a generic word for god. the signature W shape for allah, is the hebrew 21st letter of SHIN for destroy. It is also on the back of the ROBE of the pope. The religion of Muhammad is nothing but worship to a female and male body parts of a Hindu Vedic fertility lingam with the SHIVA god of destruction, who wears in his hair the same crescent moon of Hubal. The vatican obelisk in St. Peter square, used to have the exact same statue of Hubal, on top until a pope came along and removed that statue and put up a statue of St. Peter, who is actually the statue of Jupiter.
        The sacred black pieces of stone inside the kaaba at mecca are actually meteorite chunks that fell out of the sky and were worshipped as ‘good luck’ charms for augurs and omen junk. Look up shiva stones on google images and you can see many samples of the same garbage today. It is nothing but old meteorite chunks, and belongs to the quraysh tribe who took over the Mecca temple from the Hindu King, and his name had Kaaba in it, long spelling. There is hindu inscriptions carved into the walls of mecca still. well guarded secret.
        my point is, the KJV of the HOLY BIBLE is the closest to the dead sea scrolls. NO SCRIPTURE IS TO BE DELETED or SKIPPED OVER. The Quran is junk and has NO TRUTH in it. it does have verses to beat women, and the Islamic religion is known for stoning women, throwing acid on them, cutting off hands, and dismemberment which is all in the Quran in detail. that book is trash. You need Jesus and not that false religion from HInduism. That is where the Catholics got all their stuff too….you will see. The LORD Jesus Christ will be the LORD of ALL and he is the only one who rose from the dead and is the GLORY of GOD of heaven and earth. Without him you have nothing. no rock, no foundation, no church. You will see. the End is soon. You need JESUS CHRIST. Please forward this to whoever thinks the Quran is of any value.

        • Skywatcher

          aka Glory, why didn’t you send it directly to Rev. Jay instead of the person who responded to him? You have very good information that he needs to hear. He may not come back on this site again, but if you hit his “reply” button, he will get it in his mailbox. Just an idea.

          • aka glory

            I tried, G. would not post it again. I added about the pedfile issues they have in marrying young women age 7 in group marriages to extremely old men also. they have extreme issues….see that on google images all the child bride marriages so they can have a virgin. Kidnappings every where to get the children for ill gotten means.

    • aka glory

      See my posts on the truth behind the Quran, the Quraysh tribes and what you may not know…about Muhammad and allah. and the 3rd Pillar. What it really means…

    • Heather

      We will see more and more Rev’s and Pastor’s declaring that they are proud to see Francis bringing everyone together. Proud of what exactly? Since he has had great platforms and opportunities to proclaim the true Gospel of Jesus Christ before the world, has he ever once done so? These santanic gatherings are an abomination to God. Utter spiritual fornication and a stench in His nostrils, because we DO NOT all worship the same God. Yet, there IS coming a day when we certainly will, and every knee shall bow and confess Jesus Christ is Lord of all!

      Romans 14:11 (KJV)
      11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

      Isaiah 42:8(KJV)
      8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

      Exodus 34:14 (KJV)
      14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

      James 4:4-5 (KJV)
      4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
      5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

      So Rev, do you still think it’s swell that Francis is encouraging others that it’s OK to worship other god’s for the sake of this false “love”? Leading the blind to hell is not love!

      • Amen to you Heather and the rest of the brothers and sisters who will not tolerate
        the abomination of interfaith! Jesus Christ is the truth, there is no other !

        Amen to our Lord Jesus Christ !

      • TorchbearerforJesus

        Heather, sad to say, but you are so right. Many more pastors, evangelists, teachers, and wanna-be’s will lead their sheep to destruction. I have found it mighty interesting and perhaps a warning, that Bishop Tony Palmer died shortly after bringing this ecumenical movement to fruitition! You have well spoken the truth. Keep up the great work for the Master!

    • Actually, the Qu’ran was written over 500 years AFTER the last book of the New Testament was completed. So you are quite wrong about that. With regard to Muslims “becoming Christians”, are they becoming BORN AGAIN Christians according to the Bible and not according to some dream they had?

      “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV)

      • aka glory

        That is correct, Muhammad did not start his ‘group’ until around 629AD and he lasted 3 years. From what I read, he had lots of epileptic seizures and since the Quraysh tribes were into augurs and omens, they thought he was having a supernatural experience. He would come out of the seizure and they copied down his babblings as scripture and made the new Quran. He came from the Quraysh tribes, so we don’t know how much of this was original or from one the ‘tribal manuals’. He died and his body is still in the grave or cremated? Who knows? His relatives saw money in it, so they took it over. They gathered followers by promising they would not have to pay taxes and would get a regular paycheck, booty for being a soldier. They picked the down and out and street people.
        Muhammad was watching the JEWS AND CHRISTIANS who worshipped ONE GOD and no statues. He saw the Roman Catholics with all their statues copying the HINDUS. He walked into the HINDU Kaaba, Temple at Mecca, and tore down the 360 statues, one for each day of the year, including the statue of allah. He tore down the statue on top of the roof of the Kaaba, Hubal, the moon god, baal. The statue on the roof was replaced with the HINDU VEDIC SHIVA symbol for CHAOS AND DESTRUCTION: THE CRESCENT MOON. He was trying to copy the Christians and Jews with ONE GOD, that is why he chose Allah, the generic word for god, in Arabic, the UNKNOWN GOD. He never figured out JESUS, the SON was his answer to truth and salvation, so he perverted his people into evil doctrine, which has gotten further and further from the TRUE GOD, the LORD OF LORDS and KING OF KINGS and HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST.

    • Daid Kaus

      Now Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

      That Word is found in Scripture, and it testifies that no man comes to the Father but by Jesus Christ, and him alone. That faith grabs hold of the promises of God in Christ Jesus.

      Believing on Jesus Christ is believing that He is God’s only begotten Son, who’s death, burial, and resurrection from the dead are our Salvation, Redemption, sanctification, and justification.

      No pagan religion preaches this, therefore there is no Salvation in any pagan religion.

      To put one’s faith in God is to believe in His Word in the Bible. That isn’t being negative but just the opposite, it faith in what God has revealed to man.

      Being negative is doubting, or denying what Scripture is saying and trying to replace that with pagan beliefs, or sayings of men that have an emotional appeal that is contrary to Scripture.

      For anyone to say that all pagan religions worship the God of the Bible is complete heresy. Nor can any unity of all pagan religions ever be expressed in the LOVE of God. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes on Him (as the Scripture says) should have everlasting life, and should not perish.

      Scripture alone is our guide, and not some heretical figure that tries to usurp the authority of Scripture, and place himself in place of Jesus Christ.

      • Heather

        Amen Daid Kaus! ! !

        • David Kaus

          Thank you Heather

    • My Bible says “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”! It does not say to believe in God or anyone else but Jesus because there are lots of ‘gods”.

    • klaus

      Quran was written in 600AD, the New testament was around for 600 years already. So why do make things up?

  • carson

    they say ‘I believe in Jesus’..but which ‘Jesus’? Same as what ‘god’ do people worship?, false gods are many, and a false Jesus Christ?=2nd Corinthians 11:4, yes some have a false Christ, then, and today, and nothing new under the sun.
    Flee the deceivers and their false Christ, ‘peace’ and all their spiel sounds nice but by leading folks to trust in a false Christ they lead them to perdition.

    • Screaming EAgle

      Carson, what are you trying to say here? I got absolutely nothing out of that. Is it directed to any particular parties on here, or to the article up for discussion? You need to clarify, please.

      • carson

        the inter-faithers ‘Christ’ is but one of many paths to the Father, this shows that their ‘Christ’ is a false Christ since Christ is the ONLY way to the Father. They have a different Christ, a false Christ.
        They say-I believe in Christ, but their Christ can be joined with religions which reject His fullness. World religions say He existed yes, but was merely a good man, or merely a prophet…this again shows that their Christ is a false Christ, is a half way Christ, is merely a good man or prophet, and their all wrong, Christ is God, the Word made flesh the Son of God not merely a man or merely a prophet and cannot be enjoined with the worship of false gods.
        Telling people their doing ok even though they reject the fullness of Christ does nothing but lead them to perdition…also, how is that ‘love’? ..to mislead people to perdition? yet they’ll also claim how loving they are.

        • Screaming Eagle

          Thank you, Brother Carson, for clarifying that for me! A huge AMEN!

          • carson

            Interesting also, why do they insist on promoting this false half way good man only ‘Christ’?..for the world..peace and long life and prosperity above all things, and nice to the world, but is fixated above all on this world and the things and life in this world here now, they are not fixed on Christ and the things of God and God’s plans and eternity etc. Their only cause is the here and now.
            I’ve even heard some within them say they suppose Christ isn’t to return for a very very long time=if at all!
            …it’s like they don’t read a bible, or more pointed and true, hebrews 4:2..they read and heard as we and any, but it profited them not as not being mixed with faith.
            Just letters and ink in a book of tradition for some I fear.

  • The GREAT Falling Away…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=3755

  • This would make pope Francis the greatest exponent of interfaith in the history of mankind! Seems to have forgotten the Christ crucified message ? You can’t have two masters, you will love one and hate the other.

    Isaiah 42:8. (KJV) “I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.”

    Isaiah 42:8 is NOT negotiable, yet the pope is surrounded by images and gives praise to false gods ?? I have grave concerns for the people in the Catholic Church, they seem to be just going along with the tide of interfaith and everything else that the Catholic Church has conjured up. You can just see the carnage about to befall the earth when God stamps his authority on her ! Believe on the name of the Lord and nothing else for salvation, Rom 10:9.

    • Heather

      Amem dear brother Mike au!

      • Tracy

        @Mike u,
        Another Amen!! It just blows my mind that real people can follow this man (Pope). Please, people can’t you see right though this man!! It’s all false, fake, etc. etc., It’s man-made of this world. We aren’t supposed to worship a man, or an image of Mary. A lot of good, kind people are following this false doctrine. Come out her!!

  • ROSSANO WAGNER

    • Listening2all

      Kenneth Copeland says at around the 6.30minute mark in the video “Tony, thank you sir, by HELL you have blessed this place tonight” that was an interesting choice word “by hell”.

      • Copeland and ALL television Charismatics are, I believe, teaching lies to make money.

        • Skywatcher

          You can say that again, Brother Geoff! I have to be brutally honest…I cannot understand how these people can preach the Word and mutilate and manipulate it the way they do! Worse than that, I cannot comprehend how they can do that, and not take the threats of disobedience, false teaching, lying, stealing, etc. seriously! I just cannot get my head wrapped around that!

          Tony Palmer didn’t last long after his “coming out”, did he!

          • No he did not. But typical NWO, when you no longer are useful to them…out you go.

  • Do not be deceived. Jesus Christ as he is in the word…is the only way to God:
    http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/praying-with-people-of-other-religions/

  • Char

    It’s a toss up on who is more deceiving, Kenneth Copeland or Benny Hinn. They both seem to be good entertainers. I just can’t wrap my head around their congregations being so gullible to believe they are men of God. Seems like they would leave that church feeling no better than when they came in (as if they went to a movie or something else worldly). And yet they keep supporting these false teachers. Let’s hope and pray their congregations are born again, but then, why would they go to a dead church….pretty sad they have those itching ears syndrome. Lord help these people to wake up!

    • Tracy

      I agree Char. I just don’t understand the following of these people. Fake is written all over both of them.

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  • JEAN

    In the early 1950s, Mrs. Bella Dodd provided detailed explanations of the Communist subversion of the Church. Speaking as a former high ranking official of the American Communist Party, Mrs. Dodd said: “In the 1930s we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within.” The idea was for these men to be ordained and progress to positions of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops. She stated that: “Right now they are in the highest places in the Church” — where they were working to bring about change in order to weaken the Church’s effectiveness against Communism. She also said that these changes would be so drastic that “you will not recognise the Catholic Church.” Dodd gave testimony on communist infiltration of Church and state before the House UnAmerican Activities Committee in the 1950s.

    The St. Francis persona of Pope Francis could be a ploy to give him credibility. His actions in demoting cardinals who disagreed with his views (Cardinal Burke,etc.) appear to support this view. His support for global warming and an attempt by one of the cardinals to have Catholics obey him,is another fact appearing to support the idea that Pope Francis is one of the communists spoken of by Bella Dodd.

  • David Kaus

    God Is Not The Author Of Confusion !!!

    It is total confusion to believe that religions that have different doctrines, and different pagan gods that they worship, have any unity, or any connection to God Almighty !!! Yet some religious nut case in sheep’s clothing is trying to sell this snake oil to his flock, and others as deluded as he is. Sorry Charlie it isn’t going to fly !!!

    The god of this world has created a variety of religions to blind all the unsaved from the light of the Gospel and the glory of Christ (2 Cor. 4:4).

    One can only become a child of God when he is reborn in Christ.
    The pagan religions of this world do not have a relationship with the one true God through Jesus Christ. Only those who receive Jesus by believing in His name become children of God (John 1:12-13).

    The pope continues to accelerate his godless one world disorder agenda to rebuild the religious tower of Babel, in fulfilling Bible prophecy. The unity in pagan religions is through a ‘works-righteousness’ salvation and another spirit that Christians are warned not to revieve.
    .
    We see the prophetic one-world religion forming, and we know the children of God will have no part in it because they have been sanctified by the truth and sealed with the Holy Spirit (2 Thes. 2:13) through belief in Jesus Christ, and His Blood Atonement for sin.

    What is seen in the Vatican video is a carnal emotional delusion of “love.” A delusion to believe a lie. Eve was overcome by the same delusion in the Garden of Eden. And it didn’t make her wise, nor did the food turn out to be good, nor did she become a god. But she did start a process of death that ended in her dying. Unfortunately Adam, who was not deceived, went along with the program

    • Heather

      Absolutely! Amen David. We will not have any part in this evil system. They KNOW that we WILL stand against these abominations which are against God, with all the power and strength that the Lord provides us. Even unto death, because the second we die, we will be present with our Lord.

      1John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

  • Elaine

    A Former Nun Speaks Candidly About Pope Francis, Deception, and Mind Control in the Catholic Church
    By Ann Marie
    Pope Francis is trying to pull Protestants into the Catholic Church. As you will see, several things are helping him accomplish this.
    Ecumenism seems plausible because Catholics use words in a way that outsiders don’t understand. Because Protestants don’t understand what Catholics really mean, they think they have a lot of things in common, when in reality, they don’t. For example, let’s look at the word “grace.” According to the Bible, salvation cannot be earned. It only comes from the grace of God. The apostle Paul says:
    http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18805

    • aka glory

      READ THE BOOK: FROM CONVENT TO PENTECOST, BY SISTER CHARLOTTE. It is sold cheap at the Pentecostal Publishing House for $12, Amazon $30+ same book. I met her real sister in a church and she had to publish after Sister Charlotte died because the Catholic Church tried to keep killing her. Poisoned candy gifts etc. There are free excerpts online also. Another book by Maria Monk. They are all true. I have inside information …also, cannot tell on internet about the Catholic Organization and it is very very evil. I have been to Catholic Court and the Mother Superior who tried to have me locked up permanently and lied about me court, etc. She died two years later after the court case. I have her death obituary taped inside my bible. She was very evil.

  • Hi and God bless you for exposing this!

    Yes, we are on the cusp of it all. I heard about it already from some other blogs but knew this one was just around the corner. A few details: a careful read of Revelation will reveal that the antichrist rises BEFORE the false prophet, not vice versa. I keep running into that all over and try to correct folks, surprised how many have the order wrong when it is right there in Rev. A post on that would come in handy (hint, hint!).
    The false prophet rises after the antichrist (unholy trinity parallels in symmetry to Holy Trinity in that way). The false prophet promotes the antichrist just like the Holy Spirit points us to Christ and came after.
    So that makes pope francis________ and the guy coming up in his shadow to endorse him the___________ .
    Other issue is people see trib events coming and think “ah! rapture!”. Yes, but it is towards the tail end – see 2 Thess. 2. Just a few prophecy fine points. And please don’t shoot down the end-tribbers because when I was young and in church they openly accepted all sorts of timings; pre, mid, post, trib, pre-wrath, etc. and admitted it was a foggy issue. Then, certain wolves crept in and pushed pretrib at the exclusion of all the others. Sure, it’s tempting to want to think we will not be here but rather we will and will be persecuted. The church already IS being persecuted all over the world and we are not exempt, so removal from suffering is not a premise for pretrib. A close study of the bible yields the end trib view. Anyway, food for thought.

    • carson

      It’s interesting, but your using the Holy Spirit as pointing to Christ in this idea and that the Holy Spirit points to Christ and came after, but the Holy Spirit has pointed to the coming Christ from very very long ago, the old testament saints wrote and knew about the (to them) coming Christ (to us-He’s come of course).
      Also add in john the baptist, he came before Christ and made the way ready…..then also pointed people to Christ in way’s like He must increase I must decrease, ‘behold the Lamb of God’..this would have pointed any with ears to hear to Christ also.
      Also john the baptist was the only one who was filled with the Holy Spirit while still in the womb and so the Holy Spirit within john would have also been beforehand pointing to Christ, the old testament saints by the Spirit prophesied/pointed to the coming Christ so the Spirit was active from very long ago in pointing to the plan and Christ to come.
      So the false prophet coming before the AC would be in copycat of john the baptist coming before and making the way ready.

      • aka glory

        Carson: Excellent, Good thought, never thought of it that way. John the Baptist was called the GREATEST PROPHET in the bible, and he had only ONE MESSAGE, REPENT and get BAPTISED under the water everyone of you. And was preparing the WAY for the ONE WHO WAS GOING TO COME AND BAPTIZE WITH THE HOLY GHOST, one mightier than him. Jesus said follow me, and he was baptized under the water….an example for all of us.

        So If my predictions are correct, that the WHITE HORSE, THE POPE FRANCIS IS THE ANTICHRIST, Who is coming on REAL SWEET AND PEACEFUL….and I predicted that the BLACK HORSE, the JESUIT SUPERIOR GENERAL ADOLFO NICOLAS, was the FALSE PROPHET…he started advising OBAMA in 2008 and other heads of countries also. we should see more of him possibly? or someone completely different….he has erected all those POPE statues for bowing and worship to the image of the BEAST. the Antichrist…the POPE. so that is already in the making.
        You have stirred my curiosity on this one and you should be absolutely CORRECT…THE ‘FALSE PROPHET’ WOULD HAVE TO ARISE FIRST AND PREPARE THE WAY FOR THE ‘ANTI-CHRIST’…very interesting…now if John had everyone repent and baptized under the WATER, what would the MOTIVE OF THE FALSE PROPHET BE TO DRAW PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH IN MASSES?
        Good question….if PETER said to get baptized under water in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST to wash away sins….the opposite of the BIBLE TRUTH AND SCRIPTURE FOR SALVATION WOULD BE: NO, YOU DON’T NEED TO BE BAPTIZED UNDER THE WATER AND NEVER DO IT IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, just pick any name you want. Then stop going to JESUS for repentance of sin, go to this man in the black box every week and he can remove your sin.
        Why would they be the opposite of what is written? Because SATAN KNOWS THAT ONLY THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST HAS POWER OVER HIM AND HIS DEMONS. So it is a perfect ‘ANTI-CHRIST’ PLAN TO REMOVE THE FULL WATER BAPTISM AND IN JESUS NAME, the ONLY NAME OF POWER, the NAME OF THE BRIDEGROOM….THAT HE GIVES TO HIS BRIDE. Then they also removed the baptism of the HOLY GHOST and replaced it with bread and wine and first communion. Yes they have removed the truth since 325AD and the antichrist plan began. How many have fallen for the ROMAN ROAD OF SALVATION FROM NOTHING:
        no baptism under the water, just sprinkle. NO NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, just use powerless office titles of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. YEP A PERFECT PLAN OF DECEPTION TO DRAW PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE ‘CHURCH’ THAT THE LORD ADDED TO DAILY SUCH AS SHOULD BE SAVED. Boy was i fooled until 1986. Why do you think he doesn’t want to tell anyone on this website about my personal experience and power over satan with the baptism in the water in the Name of Jesus and the baptism of the HOLY GHOST evidenced by the speaking in unknown tongues, which is a sign to the unbeliever, that i got it. He wants me to shut up and not tell anyone that it is real, and not for today. Well Satan is a liar…and LET GOD BE TRUE…it is for today…and it only takes 10 min. Instead of debating, start praying and seeking and you too can have this wonderful experience. see http://www.cfcky.com live video go to the PM Service and watch the first 20 min. it is on there LIVE…for today….satan is a liar, God HAS NOT CHANGED, HIS LIVING WORD HAS NOT CHANGED AND HE CANNOT LIE OR DIE….it is the LIVING WATER…..he will QUICKEN YOUR SPIRIT. and dont forget the bath.

      • Aka glory

        Carson: FALSE PROPHET. what about Joel Osteen. Or Kenneth Copeland? Your right, the FALSE PROPHET would not be evil till the last half of trib. Who has the biggest crowd of followers right now? Which one of the above?
        Both were in Rome 2014, with Pope at his summit MEETING for peace.. I am placing bets on Joel Osteen. He has a lot of people fooled with hos One World New Age messages already and his fake spirit. This was a fascinating conception. Preparing the way for the Antichrist.

  • Heather

    Here is a couple paragraphs from the link below showing 7 Christians were jailed in Mexico for refusing to convert to Catholicism!
    This happened several weeks ago.

    ” International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that seven Evangelical Christians in Chiapas, Mexico, were incarcerated on December 15 after refusing to convert to Catholicism. State and federal authorities had been informed of threats to illegally expel or incarcerate members of the Evangelical community weeks in advance but have refused to intervene. 

    The imprisonment comes as the culmination of an ultimatum that was given by local officials of Leyva Velazques, a municipality
    of Las Margaritas, Chiapas, to the local Evangelical community to convert to Catholicism, leave the village, or face prison.” 

    http://www.charismanews.com/world/53917-7-christians-jailed-for-refusing-to-convert-to-catholicism

    • carson

      wow.
      what was will be again? (eccl 1)
      I read once how the inquisitors would write in their journal/dairy after executions sometimes how they thought God must be so pleased with them, and the verse, they will kill you and think they are doing God a service, john 16:2.

      the article mentions it’s happening in several rural towns in mexico.

  • Skywatcher

    I think this Rev. Jay Young is a shill! He hasn’t responded to a single one of our responses to him. I think he just put that statement on here to be a distraction, and that he couldn’t care less about the topic at hand.

    Geoffrey, I’m still getting the admonitions about “posting too fast” and to “slow down”. I can’t help it if I’m a fast typist! Sometimes, I get this warning after I’ve spent an hour typing my response…

  • aka glory

    Tuesday, January 12, 2016. 1/8 Good morning. The message from the Lord for us today is: (PLEASE READ ALL PARTS FIRST, BEFORE YOU JUMP DOWN MY THROAT). He wanted me to tell you about …The people of the “NAME” vs. the people “WITHOUT A NAME”. The people of the “NAME” BELONG to someone; the people “WITHOUT A NAME” belong to NO ONE, lost, no shepherd, no guidance, not engaged, no marriage, no husband, not a bride, wanderers lost in the darkness without a LIGHT TO GUIDE THEM HOME, no JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR LORD, SAVIOR AND REDEEMER. YOU NEED ‘A NAME’ to belong to HIS ONLY UNIVERSAL AND ONE ‘CHURCH’ started in chapter one in the BOOK OF ACTS in the bible to become
    ‘HIS BRIDE’. Col 2:9 For in him (JESUS) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. THE ‘NAME OF JESUS CHRIST’, the ‘ROCK’, the name of our BRIDEGROOM. [Even SPORTS TEAMS/ SCHOOLS have a ‘NAME’ to which GROUP they belong to.]
    The ‘religious’ people ‘WITHOUT HIS NAME’…. Allah(Arabic), Theos(Greek), Deus(Latin) IHS, Elohim(Hebrew),
    Father God(English)…, those are only the generic words used for the “UNKNOWN GOD”. These are the people ‘WITHOUT A NAME’ for their LORD. They only BELONG TO THESE ‘TITLES’ FOR GOD. These people do NOT HAVE ‘A GIVEN NAME’: God gives them over to reprobate and sick minds, losing all righteousness, when YOU DON’T HAVE A ‘HIS NAME’. The ‘robbers’ who stole ‘HIS NAME’ and removed the ‘COVENANT and DOCTRINE’ of the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, began with the ROMAN CATHOLICS in 325AD, and Muhammad/Quraysh tribes of the LEVANT, both ‘REMOVED’ THE “NAME” and ‘IMMERSION’ : BAPTISM IN WATER and BAPTISM IN THE SPIRIT (HOLY GHOST) John 3:3-8. I witnessed Islamic Moslems baptism, they wash their hands and feet in the bathroom before prayers. Who is behind this “REMOVAL OF HIS NAME” and full IMMERSION BAPTISM (A BATH) and HIS ‘LIVING WATER’, the Holy Spirit baptism}? Joh_10:10 The thief (SATAN)…..cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy…the PEOPLE WHO REMOVED THE ‘NAME’, ALSO REMOVED DOCTRINE, REMOVED THE COVENANT, REMOVED ‘COMMANDMENTS’, REMOVED THE ‘BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST’, REMOVED THE ‘BAPTISM(IMMERSION) IN WATER’, REMOVED THE ‘SON’, REMOVED THE ‘ROCK’, REMOVED THE ‘CHIEF CORNERSTONE’, REMOVED THE BRIDE, REMOVED THE ‘CHURCH’, AND REMOVED THE ‘WORD and the SPIRIT’ OF THE LIVING GOD… the ‘PEOPLE WITHOUT A NAME’ are cursed. Rev. 22. They are standing on SINKING SAND. As you know when a ‘CATHETAR’ is INSERTED it creates a CONSTANT ‘QUIET SLOW LEAK’ and can be ‘COVERED UP’ under long flowing ROBES, white, black, red, purple, so no one knows that A ‘CATHETAR/ CATHOLIC’ has been ‘INSERTED’ to ‘STEAL’ and ‘REMOVE’ the ‘LIVING WATER’, THE ‘HOLY GHOST BAPTISM’ the ‘LIVING SPIRIT’ from the PEOPLE. They took away the chief CORNERSTONE ‘BURIED BELOW’ GROUND LEVEL to build a FOUNDATION ON THE ‘ROCK’.
    Watch LIVE VIDEO http://www.cfcky.com {hear speaking in unknown tongues from the ‘GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST BAPTISM’ right in the middle of the song. PM SERVICE, this is where I go to church} IT IS NOT THE ‘GIFT OF TONGUES’, unless there is a message, then we all get quiet. The singer explained the ‘speaking in unknown tongues’ after she sang the song. Listen to what she says about it. IT IS FOR EVERYONE when you go deeper in PRAYER…hear what she explains to you. It happened the first 10 min. of the live video, what I have been explaining for two months here.

  • aka glory

    Jan. 12, 2016 PART 2/8…continued JESUS TOLD THE 120 IN THE UPPER ROOM….Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should NOT DEPART FROM JERUSALEM, BUT WAIT FOR THE ‘PROMISE’ OF THE FATHER, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST NOT MANY DAYS HENCE. Act 1:8 But YE SHALL RECEIVE POWER, after that THE HOLY GHOST IS COME UPON YOU: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. {These people ‘WITHOUT A NAME’ removed the Book of Acts chapter 1 & 2: Covenant of SALVATION FROM SIN and the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST}. They removed the “speaking in UNKNOWN TONGUES” and told the world that YOU DON’T NEED THIS, it is NOT FOR EVERYONE, it is ONLY A ‘GIFT’ to given to certain people. That is a FABRICATED LIE FROM HELL STRAIGHT FROM SATAN, THE DECEIVER.
    I tell you again, I was “BAPTISED WITH THE HOLY GHOST” as JESUS said he would do, and I myself spoke in an unknown tongue, as the SPIRIT gives the utterance. I RECEIVED THE “GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST”, just like he gave MOTHER MARY AND ALL THE APOSTLES in the upper room on the day of Pentecost, and that is repeated over and over again for our example and DOCTRINE OF SALVATION in the Book of Acts chap 1;2;4;8;10;11;16;19;22:16. THAT IS NOT, I REPEAT, NOT THE ‘GIFT OF TONGUES’ from Corinthians or Galatians. I have never had the “GIFT OF TONGUES” WITH INTERPRETATION.
    I have been speaking in “unknown tongues” for over 29 years. THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT ‘GIFT’S’ from JESUS CHRIST. I know, because I know, because I know. YOU are confused and not correct and will NOT UNDERSTAND this SUPERNATURAL “GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST” FROM GOD, Acts 2:1-47, until you RECEIVE THE “BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST” YOURSELF. It is for EVERYONE all over the world, including children. You cannot explain it with a natural mind. It won’t work. I do know that if you GO DEEPER IN PRAYER and ASK THE LORD JESUS TO FILL YOU, TO BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE SAME EXPERIENCE, WITH HIS “LIVING WATER”, He will do for you what he did for me. I PROMISE, YOU WILL SPEAK IN ‘UNKNOWN TONGUES’ INSTANTLY, as HE QUICKENS your spirit. Ask Him if I am telling you the truth. It takes 10 MINUTES….

  • aka glory

    Jan. 12, 2016 PART 3/8…continued…Since the people ‘WITHOUT A NAME’, needed a “NEW HEAD” they created a false leader, renamed a MAN “FATHER”, the POPE OF LIES: who used to be a ROMAN EMPEROR, OF THE ROMAN ‘CITY-STATE’, with his own laws, rules, governing body and regulations. He became the NEW RULER AND KING OF THE CHURCH, taking JESUS OFF THE THRONE, ‘REMOVED’ 1.THE NAME OF JESUS IN WATER BAPTISM and 2.BAPTISM OF THE LIVING WATER and replaced it with his own doctrine, the word ‘CATHOLIC’ means to ‘INSERT’, like a catheter in the hospital. The word CATHOLIC is not in the bible, not even in the DRV. He took the old ROMAN Priest and Vestal virgins who sacrificed to Diana, and with his priests of deception, made the vestal virgins into the innocent nuns in the convents, as young as 13 years old, along with huge financial dowries from families, and they go through a white veil, and then the black veil and now the PRIESTS call themselves Jesus Christ, tells all those young virgin women, that they are now MARRIED to CHRIST and they have raped and murdered nuns for centuries. The Nuns also have to give up their NAME and all their inheritance goes directly to the Catholic Church forever. Then that was not enough, they took young altar boys, raping and molesting them turning them into homosexuals. It is rampant in the Catholic church. 1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
    Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to CORRUPTIBLE MAN, and to birds..
    Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Rom 1:31 WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING, “COVENANT BREAKERS”, WITHOUT NATURAL AFFECTION, IMPLACABLE, UNMERCIFUL. {Read book: FROM COVENANT TO PENTECOST; and JESUITS EXTREME OATH}

  • aka glory

    January 12, 2016. PART 4/8 Continued….After you complete the steps in ACTS CHAPTER 2:VERSES 1-38; 10:43-48; or 19:1-6; then you have become the ‘BRIDE OF CHRIST’, engaged on Earth to our LORD JESUS, …You get the ‘FAMILY NAME’ of YOUR GROOM, Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels … and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee THE BRIDE, THE LAMB’S WIFE. In JEWISH TRADITION, you are required to take a ‘BATH AND GET CLEANED’ up before the WEDDING. If we are to be PRIESTS to rule and reign with him during the 1000 years, the millennium, after the Great Tribulation, JESUS CHRIST, our bridegroom, the head of the CHURCH, expects us to ‘TAKE A BATH’, before you can enter the KINGDOM OF GOD, the Temple. Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Act 10:44 While PETER yet spake these words, the HOLY GHOST FELL on all them which heard the word. Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that ON THE GENTILES also was poured out the ‘GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST’. Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Act 10:48 AND HE ‘COMMANDED’ THEM TO BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD. ACT 19:4 THEN SAID PAUL, JOHN VERILY BAPTIZED WITH THE BAPTISM OF REPENTANCE, SAYING UNTO THE PEOPLE, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE ON HIM WHICH SHOULD COME AFTER HIM, THAT IS, ON CHRIST JESUS. ACT 19:5 WHEN THEY HEARD THIS, THEY WERE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS. ACT 22:16 AND NOW WHY TARRIEST THOU? ARISE, AND BE ‘BAPTIZED, AND WASH AWAY THY SINS, CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD’. {THEY WERE NOT SPRINKLED, THEY WERE BURIED, WASHED, TOOK A BATH IN WATER}

  • aka glory

    January 12, 2016. PART 5/8 Continued…GOD used the OT for instruction in righteousness. He got rid of the animal sacrifices forever with a new and better covenant, but he did NOT GET RID OF THE ‘BATH (BAPTISM)’ immersion in clean water process and announced HIS NAME JESUS CHRIST. Deu 32:1 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
    Deu 32:2 My DOCTRINE shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Deu 32:3 Because I WILL PUBLISH THE NAME OF THE LORD : ….
    Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. 1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same SPIRITUAL DRINK {LIVING WATER}: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was CHRIST.
    Why would he send JOHN THE BAPTIST, ahead of him to prepare the way and had thousands get into the RIVER to get washed and baptized and repent of sins. That was a lot of washing going on BEFORE JESUS CAME. So if we are the Bride of Christ, we need to take our ‘MIKVAH’, before we can go to the marriage supper of the Lamb. If we are to be a PRIEST to rule and reign with Him during the millennium, we need to take a ‘BATH’. He commanded both and never changed that process in the NEW TESTAMENT. That is why JESUS said Joh 3:7 MARVEL NOT THAT I SAID UNTO THEE, YE MUST BE ‘BORN AGAIN’ in the WATER AND THE SPIRIT, to see or enter the Kingdom of God. Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and HIS WIFE HATH MADE HERSELF READY. Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. [You are called a WIFE when you are engaged as the Bride of Christ, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A “NAME” of the groom in order to be a WIFE, to belong to HIS FAMILY]. Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? [These were the group of men who did NOT OBEY and DO WHAT PAUL SAID TO DO EARLIER IN THE CHAPTER]: Act 19:2 He said unto them, HAVE YE RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST SINCE YE BELIEVED? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that THEY SHOULD BELIEVE ON HIM WHICH SHOULD COME AFTER HIM, THAT IS, ON CHRIST JESUS. ACT 19:5 WHEN THEY HEARD THIS, THEY WERE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS. ACT 19:6 AND WHEN PAUL HAD LAID HIS HANDS UPON THEM, THE HOLY GHOST CAME ON THEM; AND THEY SPAKE WITH TONGUES… see LIVE VIDEO OF THIS TODAY AT http://www.cfcky.com PM SERVICE JAN. 10

  • aka glory

    January 12, 2016. PART 6/8 Continued… Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Joh 3:7 MARVEL NOT THAT I SAID UNTO THEE, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
    The first time we are BORN AS A ‘LIVING BREATHING SOUL’ INTO THIS NATURAL WORLD, we are BORN OUT OF THE WATER IN THE WOMB AND HAVE THE ‘BREATH OF LIFE’ as a living human being, his spirit is inside us to keep us alive,
    Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man … and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.. Both JUST A ‘MEASURE’ of water and a ‘MEASURE’ of spirit to keep us alive. 1Co_15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Co_15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    So what in the world does HE MEAN that we MUST BE “BORN AGAIN”? The mystery of being “BORN AGAIN” in the WATER and IN THE SPIRIT and it is in this lifetime, because reincarnation is a lie from hell, Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. Why does JESUS SAY WE MUST ‘BE BORN AGAIN’ in the WATER and IN THE SPIRIT? When you get engaged (married) in the Jewish tradition, a Jew is considered married at the time they are engaged, espoused. That is why Joseph was going to have to seek a bill of divorce when he was only ENGAGED to Mary to be HIS WIFE. The JEWS take ‘ENGAGEMENT’ as seriously as the WEDDING. When you get ‘ENGAGED’ to a Jew, YOU TAKE ON THE ‘NAME’ of your LORD who you intend to live with, spend the rest of your life with. He goes back home to prepare your mansion where you will live. YOU HAVE ‘HIS NAME’ and you wait for his return everyday with excitement, because ONE DAY HE PROMISED TO SHOW UP, like a ‘thief in the night’ to steal away HIS BRIDE and take her back to HIS HOME. IN a Jewish engagement, the bride-to-be always takes a “COMPLETE BATH”, called the MIKVAH, before she goes to the WEDDING CEREMONY. Mikveh or mikvah (Hebrew: מִקְוֶה / מקווה, Modern mikve, Tiberian miqwe, pl. mikva’ot or (Yiddish) mikves, lit. “a collection”) is a bath used for the purpose of ritual immersion in Judaism. In the Hebrew Bible, the word is employed in its broader sense but generally means a collection of water (def. from Wikipedia). Jewish temples today, have a separate ‘BATH ROOM’ set up just for this purpose, still today. {See google images for ‘MIKVAH’}.

  • aka glory

    January 12, 2016. PART 7/8 Continued ….In the olden days, at the temple, the lavers were to wash the sacrificed animal parts in and “BAPTISMAL BATHS” WERE MADE AND CALLED a “SEA” was set up outside the Temple of Solomon. This was another ‘BATH’ for complete immersion to be CLEAN before the priests entered into the Holiest of Holies. It was set upon 12 golden oxen and consisted of 1000-3000 baths, for bathing (baptizing), which means to ‘COVER’ IN WATER:
    1Ki_7:23 And he made a molten SEA, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. 1Ki_7:24 And under the brim of it round about there were knops compassing it, ten in a cubit, compassing the SEA round about: the knops were cast in two rows, when it was cast. 1Ki_7:25 It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the SEA was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward. 1Ki_7:26 And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained TWO THOUSAND BATHS. 1Ki_7:38 Then made he ten lavers of brass: one laver contained FORTY BATHS: and every laver was four cubits: and upon every one of the ten bases one laver. 1Ki_7:39 And he put five bases on the right side of the house, and five on the left side of the house: and he set the “SEA” on the right side of the house eastward over against the south. 1Ki_7:44 And one “SEA”, and twelve oxen UNDER THE “SEA”; 2Ki_16:17 And king Ahaz cut off the borders of the bases, and removed the laver from off them; and took down THE “SEA” FROM OFF THE BRASEN OXEN THAT WERE UNDER IT, and put it upon a pavement of stones. 2Ki_25:13 And the pillars of brass that were in the house of the LORD, and the bases, and the “BRASEN SEA” THAT WAS IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD, did the Chaldees break in pieces, and carried the brass of them to Babylon.
    2Ch_4:5 And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held “THREE THOUSAND BATHS”. 2Ch_4:2 Also he made a “MOLTEN SEA” of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
    2Ch_4:3 And under it was the similitude of oxen, which did compass it round about: ten in a cubit, compassing the “SEA” round about. Two rows of oxen were cast, when it was cast. 2Ch_4:4 IT STOOD UPON TWELVE OXEN, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward. 2Ch_4:6 He made also ten lavers, and put five on the right hand, and five on the left, to wash in them: such things as they offered for the burnt offering they washed in them; BUT THE “SEA WAS FOR THE PRIESTS TO WASH IN”. 2Ch_4:10 And he set the “SEA” on the right side of the east end, over against the south. 2Ch_4:15 ONE SEA, and twelve oxen under it. {FYI: A CUBIT IS 18” and BATHING IN TEMPLE WAS DONE}

  • aka glory

    January 12, 2016. PART 8 / 8 THE END for today …. Once you have obeyed and are baptized and buried your sins and washed them away under the water and took ‘the bath’, the Mikvah, and it WAS DONE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, you now belong to HIM, YOU HAVE A ‘NEW NAME’, JESUS, now you BELONG TO HIS ‘CHURCH’. [JESUS SAID: Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST not many days hence. Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and IT SAT UPON EACH OF THEM. ACT 2:4 AND THEY WERE ALL FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST, AND BEGAN TO SPEAK WITH OTHER TONGUES, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THEM UTTERANCE. Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the ‘NAME OF JESUS CHRIST’ for the remission of sins, and ye shall RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. Act 2:39 For the PROMISE is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And THE LORD ADDED TO THE CHURCH DAILY SUCH AS SHOULD BE SAVED] Same DOCTRINE/ MESSAGE OF SALVATION is to the GENTILES in chap 10;11;16;19&22. He has now truly become your Redeemer from sin, the LORD of your LIFE, and you will rule and reign with HIM as a priest and HIS BRIDE in the Millennium. YOU ARE COMPLETE ‘IN HIM’, when you completed Acts 2:1-38 or 19:1-6. Col 2:6 As YE HAVE THEREFORE ‘RECEIVED’ CHRIST JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND GOD WHOSE HAS A NAME: JESUS, THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES. THE ‘ONLY NAME’ BY WHICH WE MUST BE SAVED
    ACTS 4:10-12. SEE LIVE BOOK OF ACTS CHURCH, JUST LIKE THE UPPER ROOM @ http://www.cfcky.com
    Now that you have COMPLETED THE COMMANDMENTS IN THE BOOK OF ACTS FOR SALVATION FROM SIN. You can see the PAST TENSE VALUE of the following scriptures that occur after the Book of Acts, after you HAVE BECOME ENGAGED, you are now the ‘BRIDE OF CHRIST’….HE KNOWS YOU “RECEIVED HIS BRIDAL GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST” because you spoke in unknown tongues when ‘HE’ QUICKENED your Spirit. Col 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power. You now have the ‘SUPERNATURAL POWER AND GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST’ running through your veins, power over sin, sickness, disease, satan and death. This NOT THE ‘GIFT OF TONGUES’ IN CORINTHIANS. NOW YOU ARE READY, WASHED, AND CLEAN FROM SIN, READY FOR THE ‘RAPTURE, YOUR WEDDING DAY’, whenever it happens. You are no longer lost and a person ‘WITHOUT A NAME’. You HAVE A NEW NAME….JESUS CHRIST. You are HIS, you truly BELONG TO HIM.

  • David Kaus

    The incarceration of those who will not convert to Catholicism has always been a characteristic of Roman Catholicism and its cruelty toward any who will not bow down to its heretical beliefs.

    Catholicism has charismatic manifestations that are just as phony as those in Charismatic/Pentecostal circles today. The ecstatic tongues manifestation is a major vehicle in the formation of the Whore Church, and today’s apostasy.

    Even if the gift of real languages, and its purpose had not ceased, still all the biblical guide lines given by the Holy Spirit would have to be fulfilled for them to be legitimate today, and they are not.

    The gift of tongues was for the unbeliever, not believers. Yet repeatedly the testimony of those in this error state that it is being given to believers !!! Wake up.

    The indwelling of the Holy Spirit comes through belief in God’s Word being preached, and faith in Jesus Christ.

    The gift of tongues was NOT given to every one in the early church. The Holy Spirit gave it to WHOM HE WILLED !!! There it CAN NOT be a sign of being baptised in the Holy Spirit.

    Tongues had to be interpreted, and gibberish can not be interpreted, only faked.

    The unbeliever (a Jew) could testify that God was truly working through the N.T. church, and gentiles through the miraculous gift of tongues.

    Since that which was perfect has come, the Scriptures, tongues as Scripture has stated has ceased.

    That which is perfect in the Greek is Teleios, a neuter word which can not refer to a person, so perfect does not refer to Jesus Christ in this Scripture, but to when the completion of Scripture would come. Completed Scripture can only mature (make perfect) the body of Christ, and that was not available in the time 1 Corinthians was written.

    An emotional experience does not, and never will validate that something is coming from God. Emotional experiences, or “highs” are subjective, God’s Word is objective, and not manipulated by emotions.

    Many psychologist have examined the present day tongues manifestation and have concluded that it is mostly a case of mimicking the language spoken by a person in babyish form. It can be learned, and many charismatics have had this experience taught to them by others, or have copied what they have heard others speak.

    And yes even a real foreign language can be given by satanic agency, and has been easily done in christian churches by satanic infiltrators in order to deceive those in the church because the witches know first off that it is not coming from God, and are mocking the churches that are caught up in this delusion, and secondly they know that they do not have to follow Scriptural guide lines to be exposed because the churches don’t either !!!

    • aka glory

      Excellent…you should have seen the Vatican NUN who taught religion class for 20 years at the school, my daughter was forced to go to, because I married a Catholic. Since you all have had a ‘taste’ of my bible stuff, here is a small story. I had just got “SAVED” a born again, tongue talking, baptized in JESUS NAME on fire Christian. I was a volunteer at the library with my desk next to the nun’s class. She carefully hid all the bibles on the top shelf so the kids could not reach them. I would pull them down to table level so the kids could read them. Then I taught my daughter: Romans 3:23 where all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, including MOther Mary, that is why she got baptized with the HOLY GHOST in the upper room and baptized in JESUS NAME that afternoon. I told my daughter Mary, Jesus, Joseph, they were all JEWISH and no one was Catholic. Well my daughter started teaching the bible scriptures i taught her in class. The nun was furious and started paying my daughter with candy bars to shut her up and not talk. cont

    • aka glory

      A psychiatrist has no clue about the supernatural. YOu cannot explain it with a natural mind.
      The PERFECT has not yet come. The PERFECT is JESUS CHRIST and when he comes back for his church, yes, all tongues shall cease and prophecy, because there will be NO MORE HOLY GHOST on the earth for 7 (?) years, however long the Tribulation goes. YOu will never understand until you get. I thought the same thing above, until one day it happened to me. It is NOT THE ‘GIFT’ of TONGUES….it is the evidence of being baptized in the HOLY GHOST. All 120 in the upper room got, it says they were ALL FILLED AT ONCE. I have been in revivals, where his spirit sweeps over 100’s of people. It is wonderful. The ‘GIFT OF TONGUES’ is only for a message to the church and must be interpreted. Read 1 Corin. 14 for a better understanding, but once again you sound like a very dedicated JEHOVAH WITNESS….they preach what you preach above.

      • David Kaus

        First off any one who reads and can rightfully divide God’s Word will preach what I preach, and that the Jehovah’s Witness do not preach. I’ve contended for the faith once given to the saints with many Jehovah’s Witnesses, and have always used Scripture to show them their error, just like I have shown you your error about ecstatic tongues. You like the Jehovah’s Witness reject what Scripture says, so in reality you are much like them, and not I.

        Now as for a psychiatrist knowing about glossolalia (vocalizing of speech like syllables that lack any real meaning considered by pagans to be part of a sacred language), that is simply a matter of knowing the structure of language, and not something that has to be discerned spiritually. Any one should be able to realize that just from general knowledge.

        Your discernment about spiritual things is totally lacking, for if you had any you would not be making the erroneous statements you have made especially when it has been shown to you that the Greek word teleios is a neuter word and can not refer to Jesus Christ, that would take a masculine word. The Greek language, like Hebrew is gender specific. Therefore that which is perfect is referring to the Scriptures which at the time of the writing of 1 Corinthians was far from being completed.

        If there is no more Holy Spirit on the earth during the Great Tribulation then what are the 144,000 Jewish evangelist doing going around spreading the good news of the Gospel ? The Holy Spirit’s restraining of evil is removed from the earth during the Great Tribulation not His presence.

        You are so out of touch with Scripture and what it really is saying that it is simply amazing. Scripture clearly tells us that the gift of tongues was for the UNBELIEVER AND PROPHESYING IS FOR THE BELIEVER.

        The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is not evidenced by the speaking of tongues. If that were the case in the early church then all would have to speak in tongues, but Scripture tells us that even back then all did NOT speak with tongues (real languages) but the Holy Spirit distributed that gift to whom He would.

        If hundreds of people started babbling in church with ecstatic tongues then it is certain that the Holy Spirit had absolutely NOTHING to do with what was happening. For SCRIPTURE tells us that only two or three should manifest this gift in the church and that by course, and in order and not all at once.

        You sound like a person dedicated to a delusion, one that has no reference to Scripture whatsoever. Every statement you have made is in total opposition to what God’s Word says. You simply twist Scripture to try to justify an emotional experience above God’s Word.

        The pagans religions are full of mystical, emotional experiences, and that is one reason why the Whore Church is full of ecstatic tongues babblers, and aptly called Mystery Babylon the habitation of every fowl and unclean bird. Ecstatic tongues is one of the major vehicles used to form the end time, last days Whore of Babylon.

  • The demons believe, and tremble…

    • aka glory

      Yep, the demons do believe and tremble. Just like in Acts 19:1-20, i have cast out many a demon, demons of heroin, crack, etc. cast off demons of depression and suicide, etc. Been doing it for 29 years, you cannot do it without the baptism of the Holy Ghost or they will not respond or they will attack you. The demons have never talked to me, I don’t hear any of their voices, they cannot touch me nor come near me. They KNOW WHO I AM. I obeyed the baptism in JESUS NAME and was baptized with the HOLY GHOST. I have a friend who helps me at the altar when someone wants to be delivered. She has only had the baptism of the HOLY GHOST with speaking in unknown tongues, but not the baptism in JESUS NAME. She said when i am casting out the demons, they will growl at her and hiss at her and touch her leg when they depart the possessed person. She can see them sometimes too. I have never seen one of those imps from hell and don’t plan on it. With the gift of discernment, which i do have, i can tell if you got a demon on you or in you, when i walk by. I can detect them in the SPIRIT. You better know what you are doing and OBEY AND DO ACTS 19 :1=20 AND 22:16 before you try to cast out any demons tho. I heard they are really ugly. The LORD protects at all times. and they just fly away…bye bye…gone

  • David Kaus

    Hello Heather, and thank you for that edifying post. May I recommend to you a five volume set about “The History of the Reformation” by Henri Merle D’Aubigni. It covers the life of Martin Luther, his 95 thesis, the Diet of Worms, his Augsburg debate with Dr. Eck, his denunciation of popery, and Roman Catholic heresies like indulgences, etc.

    In addition other men like Zwingli, Melanchthon, Charles V, Henry VIII, Leo X, etc are given extensive documentation, and much more.

    Until I read this book I really knew little about Luther, and what I did know turned out to be not exactly correct. For instance, Luther did not put his 95 thesis on the door of Wittenberg to start a war with popery and Rome. Posting some thing on the door of that University was similar to posting some thing on a bulletin board today. Luther did this, as did others there, to inform those at Wittenberg that he would like to debate anyone interested in what he had posted.

    A printer got hold of what he had posted and printed it in the German language for the public to read. It hit the public like a bomb shell, and spread like wild fire until it was brought to the pope’s attention. It was then that the pope and his representatives took out to bring Luther back into line. Luther’s conviction about Scripture being his authority and not a man even if he tries to represent himself as the head of the church, let to his staunch, unflinching defense of Scripture in the face of every thing the pope and Roman Catholicism could throw at him.

    The author took over 15 years to do the research on this five volume set which I stumbled upon at a library book sale. You can find a condensed form of the five volume set on Amazon, but if you can get the five volume set.

    If you can believe it even back then certain followers of Luther and the reformation broke off and formed a mystical cult that thought that they were the new apostles, and prophets of their time, with new revelations, and “spiritual’ experiences. Luther had nothing to do with them. With what is happening today in the church with “experiences” and mysticism being manifested, one can say it is Dejavu, “all over again.”

    Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

    Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

  • bv

    Pope Red – the nwo hack.

  • dean

    Why are Catholics so spiritually dead that they cannot see this for what it is. This didn’t start with Francis, either. I remember seeing a video where John Paul II invited every religion of the world to Assisi Italy and proclaimed they all worshipped the same God. He then proceeded to kiss the Koran and took the mark of shiva on his forehead. It is what it is. Stop praying to your statues and lighting candles and burning incense to them and ask the Lord to forgive you and repent of your sins. Time is short.

    • Skywatcher

      Dean, you said, “Why are Catholics so spiritually dead that they cannot see this for what it is.”

      I know it was a rhetorical question you asked out of frustration and concern. But for those who do not know the answer, here it is:

      “But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” 2 Cor. 4: 3, 4

      • Lisa

        Amen skywatcher..Only the Lord Jesus Christ can open their eyes!

  • hp

    If you lean in real close and take a peek, you can just might catch a glimpse of the 729 bar code stamp on the Pope’s little white cap.

  • UnJEW

    All religion is conman fraud. Moses was a rapist and murderer of little girls a policy still in effect in Israel today.
    Early Christians taught reincarnation and this was struck out by the whore Empress Theodora.

  • Skywatcher

    UnJEW, you’re obviously confusing Christianity with Islam! Unless you can substantiate what you say with Scripture, etc., then we’re not interested in your verbal diarrhea! You got it, Pal?

    • Aka glory

      Skywatcher: unjew is a isis myslim. You can tell by his hatred for moses and he wont tell you he probably has a wife that is 7 years old, and several wives. like Muhammad did and we know kind of person that is.
      to unjew will say: JESUS IS THE LORD OF LORDS AND THE KING OF KINGS. I bet he can’t. Mr. Unjew needs Acts 2:38. Pray for his soul to see Jesus. MUSLIMS are hindus,. The word for allah in Arabic matches the Yogi, Hindu word for OM in chants to Shiva. Same signature. Mecca was an old Hindu lingam to Hubal. Jews will rule the world from JERUSALEM with Jewish Jesus on the throne ruling the world and all will confess Jesus Christ is Lord.

  • CARL

    I have said before that Pope Francis is cursed . For cursed is he that makes the blind to wander out of the way , Amen . This holds true for many others as well .Today is like the days of Noah and in those days people were marrying and given in marriage and sudden destruction came upon them , the flood and they were swept away .The true church is the 144000 in Revelation 12 and it has not yet fully manifested but it is moving and it will quicken as the days go by . Concerning the fullness of the godhead ,there is but one body for the Father is in the Son and he is in the Father so there is but one Spirit . The Holy Ghost ,the Spirit ,is over all in all and through all and it is through the Eternal Spirit that we breathe .However , many people do not have the WORD of God which is the Law of God and breaking the Laws of God is sin and the WAGES of SIN is DEATH !What am I saying , we all might not die ? Yes there is a sting to death and that is SIN ! This world cannot be saved and it was not meant too be ,for there is battle going for your souls and this war is being fought by the Serpent seed and the seed of Christ the 144000 , the true church .

    • TorchbearerforJesus

      Carl, you repeatedly said, “The true church is the 144000…” I don’t know where you get your Ecclesiology (study of the church) from, but it certainly didn’t come from the Holy Bible. How can the Church and the people of Israel be one and the same, unless you’re a J.W.? Are you?

      If what you say were to be true, you would have no hope of salvation, because about 4,000 yrs. ago, that quota of 144,000 would be filled by now. Furthermore, that passage you get your “theology” from, is only referring to Jewish evangelists and NOT the number of converts to their ministry.

      You said, “…for there is battle going for your souls and this war is being fought by the Serpent seed and the seed of Christ the 144000 , the true church.”

      I agree with you, there is a battle going on for our souls, but it is NOT being fought by the 144,000. It is being fought between ourselves and the imps of Satan; the flesh warring against the spirit. And, yes, it is also being fought between God’s warring angels and Satan’s losers, who surround us, defending us.

      The 144,000 do not come upon the earth until after the Church of Christ, (His body and Bride) have been removed.

  • Sam

    Which just goes to show you it is, all of it -bs. More people have died and are dying because of the Rothschild’s using religions as a population control service and not as something to make humans better. Religions cannot make people better because they are all full of conflict and selfishness. What will make people better is an end to the International Banking Mafia’s control over nations and the people in them. Better than all the modern religion’s put together with a few of the old one’s thrown in, better, is the reality that the productivity of people should be returned to the people fairly if not equally.

    • Skywatcher

      Sam, you said, ” What will make people better is an end to the International Banking Mafia’s control over nations and the people in them. Better than all the modern religion’s put together with a few of the old one’s thrown in”.

      You’ll be sitting around waiting a mighty long time to see that happen! You’ll probably win the “Power Ball” before this happens.

  • dean

    Wow, the amount of false doctrine being spewed out on this site by posters is just as bad as that video by Francis. I suspect the number of true Christians in the world is a whole lot less than the 2 billion that is reported, perhaps 5-10 percent of that figure at most.

    • Heather

      Amen Dean! As darkness increases the false prophets are being magnified.

    • Aka glory

      I know, I think the ads posted are the biggest and ugliest on this site. Blinders and scroll fast.so sad. I have never seen them so huge and ugly. We need to Geoffrey meet with CERN and fix it.

  • maybeperfect

    There may be an infinite number of ways in which God believes in himself. It may only seem like “us,” but upon honest introspection,we probably have no way of knowing whether certain of His manifestations, (as we may be,)necessarily have the capability of possessing consciousness, in and of ourselves, or not.
    He seems to have been at this eternity business, oh, I don’t know…an INFINITELY long time, for all we know, and He seems to be doing a perfect job, inso far as I can ascertain.
    It might seem to be generally a good idea to earnestly desire His continuation, in His pursuit of eternity, if so it is.
    We might not know, but what we may be the parts of Him that CAN know a thing, in this end of this galaxy, though, to be honest, from my standpoint, it might require a miracle in my case, ’cause I’m so gobsmacked by the priceless gifts of seeming consciousness, inclusion, unexplainably, in the indescribable magnificence of creation, the freedom in not even knowing who I might really be, seeking in everything, and inexplicably finding, at least the possibility, which seems more than enough.
    What can be said, other than thanks.

    • Heather

      ???

    • Aka glory

      And how crystals are you using in meditation? Which New Age Unity New Thought religion are you under? All those conscience talk is led by a “psychic” and you need to repent and read book of Acts 1 to 22 and find the truth about God in Jesus and SALVATION. All New Thought and Church of Scientology groups are led by psychics that are demon possessed usually around age four to six. Are you hearing voices too ? You are very Confused and God is not the author of confusion. Walk away from it. Watch http://www.cfcky.com and get saved by Jesus Christ the author and finisher of our faith.

  • John

    Over a billion dollars spent on settlements for the RCC Priest settlements….Sexual Abuse……This is the church of Christ?…..Don’t forget the thousands slaughtered during the RCC Inquisitions…..As for RCC charities, the US Gov. has been giving billions of dollars to the RCC…

  • AKA GLORY

    BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC FEB. 1862, Julia Ward Howe First published version
    Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
    He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
    He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
    His truth is marching on.
    (Chorus)
    Glory, glory, hallelujah!
    Glory, glory, hallelujah!
    Glory, glory, hallelujah!
    His truth is marching on.
    I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps,
    They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
    I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps:
    His day is marching on.
    (Chorus)
    I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
    “As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal”;
    Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
    Since God is marching on.
    (Chorus)
    He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
    He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat;
    Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet!
    Our God is marching on.
    (Chorus)
    In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
    With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me.
    As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free*,
    While God is marching on.
    (Chorus)
    Verse six (often deleted)
    He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
    He is Wisdom to the mighty, He is Succor to the brave,
    So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave,
    Our God is marching on.
    (Chorus)
    Taken from : Old Testament, Isaiah 63; New Testament, Rev. 19)
    HISTORY OF THE HYMN FROM WIKIPEDIA: She got the words to the Hymn from the LORD
    “I went to bed that night as usual, and slept, according to my wont, quite soundly. I awoke in the gray of the morning twilight; and as I lay waiting for the dawn, the long lines of the desired poem began to twine themselves in my mind. Having thought out all the stanzas, I said to myself, ‘I must get up and write these verses down, lest I fall asleep again and forget them.’ So, with a sudden effort, I sprang out of bed, and found in the dimness an old stump of a pen which I remembered to have used the day before. I scrawled the verses almost without looking at the paper.”

    THIS HYMN DESCRIBES THE PEOPLE OF THIS WEBSITE….WE STAND FOR TRUTH AND JESUS CHRIST AND HIS WORD….IT IS THE ONLY TRUTH..GOD BLESS ( I wish i knew how to project the music with it. I went to EPCOT the year I was saved and stood behind the Pillar and was bawling my eyes out when the Americans sang this song. It was the ONLY EXHIBIT I remember and enjoyed, forever engraved in my heart).

  • AKA GLORY

    JOEL OSTEEN
    Carson I think you are absolutely correct about a smooth talking FALSE PROPHET will usher in the ANTICHRIST, as John the Baptist, Prophet, who ushered in THE CHRIST. I have already declared that the ANTICHRIST IS THE POPE, THE WHITE HORSE OF REVELATIONS….SO WHO WOULD BE THE BEST PICK FOR THE ‘FALSE PROPHET’ Read on
    thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/?app-download=nokia
    Dec 21, 2015 – It is the best series on the Word of Faith Movement that I have ever seen. …. a global audience, receive the miraculous healing power from God he claims to have? ….. With nearly 12 million “likes,” Joel Osteen Ministries has a huge following ….. in turn, passed it on to popularizers such as Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen. Osteen and his team of nearly 200 are in San Francisco for an event they call A Night of Hope. Most of the people working for him traveled together from Houston, where Osteen is the senior pastor at Lakewood Church, a nondenominational megachurch that gathers in the arena formerly known as the Compaq Center, where the Houston Rockets used to play. Tens of thousands attend his church every week, and millions more watch him on televisions around the world, making him easily the most popular preacher on the planet. HIS BROAD APPEAL MEANS PERSONALITIES RANGING FROM OPRAH WINFREY AND JOHN MCCAIN TO KHLOE KARDASHIAN HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES FANS. Osteen is also a best-seller machine, one of the biggest names in publishing. (His new book, THE POWER OF I AM, DEBUTED IN OCTOBER 2015 as a New York Times best-seller.) His net worth is reportedly somewhere between $40 million and $60 million. – He spoke less about the figures in the Bible and focused more on stories about people overcoming hardships, stories about faith bringing people through terrible times. He’d write out his sermons and memorize them, sometimes recording his voice to study it. After so many years editing his father’s sermons for TV, he was able to self-edit and focus on the specific language he wanted to use. Osteen repeated words he thought were positive and cut things he thought might turn people off. See more at: http://www.success.com/article/why-joel-osteen-is-the-most-popular-preacher-on-the-planet#sthash.QHbUmWvQ.dpuf

  • AKA GLORY

    Joel Osteen-Preaching a False-Positive, with a Smile http://www.letusreason.org/popteac29.htm
    Copyright (c) 2012 No portion of this site is to be copied or used unless kept in its original format in the way it appears.
    Forty year old Joel Osteen now has one of the largest church congregations in America. This has all been done this with no formal Bible training; Osteen says he was learning the business of television. In 1981, he came home from Oral Roberts University to start the Lakewood TV ministry and he became the television producer of his father’s program. In his Charisma interview it stated: The younger Osteen’s television-marketing talents and his dad’s preaching skills resulted eventually in the church being aired on stations nationwide and in more than 100 countries (Charisma, June 2004 article).
    Joel’s father, John Osteen, was into the word faith teaching of Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. In late 1998-99 he became sick. The church that was also trained in word faith philosophies began their positive confessions saying, “God has promised him that he will be preaching into his early 90’s, and he is only 77 now. God gave him a vision for “Seven Years of Harvest”, and we are just beginning our 6th year of this special thrust for world evangelism. God has promised our staff that He will bring our pastor’s kidneys on a platter of praise. The God who began this universe as a mighty Creator is creating what our Pastor needs in his body”. He has become Americas perfect model for the mega-church, and is now among the most known TV teachers, having gained the admiration of millions who watch him every week on television. He cannot be categorized among the TV evangelists, nor would he want to be. Part of the reason for Lakewood Churches success is the charming style of Osteen’s personality. You will never hear a discouraging word; being positive is what his ministry is all about. He is well-dressed, very expressive in his delivery and at times has some practical wisdom.

  • AKA GLORY

    MORE ON JOEL OSTEEN…..http://www.letusreason.org/popteac29.htm “So the message is to keep people from feeling uncomfortable, bad or guilty by letting them know what is wrong. Compare this to the great evangelical sermons in the book of Acts and we find how off-base this is in terms of delivering gospel content. Osteen’s teaching is like eating sweets with the promise of no fat. He is insistent in not condemning people in their sin so he avoids the topic purposely. I realize he is trying to give people who are down some hope. But I don’t think “God helps those who help themselves” type of message is God’s answer. Instead, people get a whole lot of word faith,- discover your potential, tickle your ears type of sermons that make one keep coming back for more. And who can’t like this young preacher with a smile a mile wide all the time? His personality is effervescent, and he has an upbeat style that connects with the people as well as a with a sense of humor. What’s not to like? He’s a modern–day Norman Vincent Peale. When interviewed by Larry King on June 20,2005, Osteen avoided a similar question and was non-committal to Jesus being the only way. King asked Osteen where Jews or Muslims would go if they don’t accept Christ.
    KING: “What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
    OSTEEN: “You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know .
    KING: “If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
    OSTEEN: “Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. … I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
    “It’s not a churchy feel,” Osteen, 40, said. “We don’t have crosses up there. We believe in all that, but I like to take the barriers down that have kept people from coming.”

    Chris Wallace on Dec. 23, 2007 asked Joel Osteen also about mitt Romney and was very specific on Mormonism and what they believe. “And I’ve got to ask you the question, because it is a question whether it should be or not in this campaign, is a Mormon a true Christian? “Is a Mormon a true Christian” OSTEEN: Well, in my mind they are. Mitt Romney has said that he believes in Christ as his savior, and that’s what I believe, so, you know, I’m not the one to judge the little details of it. So I believe they are. And so, you know, Mitt Romney seems like a man of character and integrity to me, and I don’t think he would — anything would stop me from voting for him if that’s what I felt like.
    WALLACE: So, for instance, when people start talking about Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, and the golden tablets in upstate New York, and God assumes the shape of a man, do you not get hung up in those theological issues?
    OSTEEN: I probably don’t get hung up in them because I haven’t really studied them or thought about them. And you know, I just try to let God be the judge of that. I mean, I don’t know.I certainly can’t say that I agree with everything that I’ve heard about it, but from what I’ve heard from Mitt, when he says that Christ is his savior, to me that’s a common bond.” FOX News Sunday http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318054,00.html: video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNvNhq-brs
    This is the pastor of the largest church in America stating he is ignorant on this common place issue, but does not hesitate to make a statement of acceptance of Mormonism. That is not wisdom, that is not even common sense, its shameful. Maybe its his rejection of any theology that keeps him away from basic knowledge of this large other competing religion. Yet, there is no excuse for being this badly informed on what is surrounding us.” QUOTED FROM SITE

  • This Abomination pope Francis is WRONG!!

    Only Judaism and Christianity is RIGHT as we have the same GOD the FATHER who art in HEAVEN ABOVE ( HaShem-Yahweh-YHWH-ELIJAH-EMMANUEL-JEHOVAH ) and HIS SON YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST!!

    Note: To everyone, they’re are Jewish Christians in Israel-Yisrael!!

    Love Always and Shalom Everyone,

    Kristi Ann

    • Elaine

      Amen, Kristi Ann.

      I agree with you about Jewish Christians in Israel. You may be interested in Dr. Baruch’s teaching videos.
      He teaches the same thing about the time of Jacobs Trouble.

      http://www.loveisrael.org/statement-of-faith

      https://vimeo.com/loveisrael

      Shalom,
      Elaine

      • Thanks so much Elaine!! Thanks for the link!! 😀

        Baruch Hashem-Yahweh-YHWH-EMMANUEL-ELIJAH-JEHOVAH ADONAI YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST BLESS ALL my Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus-Yeshua!!

        Am Yisrael Chai Forevermore Israel-Yisrael!!

        I love you all Everyone through our KING / LORD / MESSIAH / SAVIOR YESHUA-JESUS CHRIST!!

        Love Always and Shalom Everyone,

        Kristi

  • Aka glory

    God love you. I always dreamed of going to Israel. Financial not right. I am praying for the Lord to take me there in the Spirit. Cheaper and no search at airport.

    It is surprising how many Christians have no clue Jesus was a Jew, the Church in the bible is Jewish Acts 2:47 and they were called Christians at Antioch later. I teach Book of Acts SALVATION since 1986, getting the same baptism in Holy Ghost with speaking in unknown tongues as the 120 Jews in upper room on Pentecost in 33AD, then I repented from the Roman pagan doctrine, where they REMOVED the water baptism and the name of Jesus.
    I went and got baptized under the water as all the Jews and Gentiles did in book of Acts, and came up.out of that water ,( my Mikveh), in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, for the REMISSION OF SINS per scripture, getting me ready for my bridegroom and taking on HIS NAME, just like ALL the JEWS did in the bible. They were our example for SALVATION.
    The Roman Catholics are the people “WITHOUT THE NAME”, without the bath, WITHOUT the living Spirit of God. Gentiles did it in Acts 10:43-48; 19:1-6; 22:16.
    You can watch our church on Internet @ http://www.cfcky.com. Pastor Tommy Bates used the Tallit on prayer for a 3 month old baby and she was healed the next day of massive brain cancer. I put video on YouTube.

    • “You can watch our church on Internet @ http://www.cfcky.com

      You call that a “church”? With that kind of “music”? (I would rather say: “noise”!)

      But all “churches” now have become like that… “the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.” (Rev 18:2) True believers have already obeyed God’s command:

      “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.” (Rev 18:4-5)

  • “I believe in love”

    “Love”? Aren’t people, including some “Christian” pastors now already using – or rather abusing – this word to force people to accept homosexuality?

    “Buddha”?

    I understand that Muslims believe in the same God of Abraham as the Jews do, but they don’t believe in Jesus, like the Jews. Now there are more and more Jewish people that begin to believe in Jesus. And so there are also Muslims that believe. Jews and Muslims both argue that they are the sons of Abraham and Sarah and the other not. But, interestingly, God also said to Hagar:

    “Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.” (Gen 21:18)

    So there may be hope for the sons of Hagar too. But Buddha?

    In order to include all religions in one world religion, the only way to do it is by forcing people to believe that all people are saved whatever they believe in, as long they keep the common point: “love” and accept all people. So the one world religion is a religion of believing in the god “Love”. Then all people that refuse to believe in “Love” will be considered a hater, that’s logic. Those who enter through the narrow gate will be considered too narrow-minded… Now the “hyper-grace” has become “very-super-ultra-hyper-grace”, and “OSAS” (Once Saved Always Saved) will spread to the whole earth as something like “Be in peace, loving each other and you are saved”, or “In peace each other and saved”, or just say: “peace and security”. Hm… I have already heard that somewhere…

    “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” – 1 Thes 5:3

    They will distort the scripture by quoting “He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.” 1 John 4:8

    And our true God has just been robbed from one more of his attribute: Love.

    • Aka glory

      Marc, you are confused. You have WRONG UNDERSTANDING AND Lack biblical truth and knowledge.
      #1 Hagar, the concubine slave, had the son Ishmael, not a prophet, but a son of the concubine, slave girl who God did say they would be a great nation, but will always be at War with God’s people= the children of the PROMISE, born from ISAAC.
      The Children of the PROMISE, CAME THRU SARAH, THRU ISAAC, THE BLOODLINE TO JACOB, (ISRAEL), TO JUDAH, TO KING DAVID, TO MARY, TO JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF THE PROMISE, born from Isaac.
      JESUS CHRIST is not only the Son of God, the Son of the PROMISE, but He is ALSO GOD, HE IS ONE, The only name of God was Jehovah in Heb. OT. , in the NT. the Greek called HIM JESUS. That is His ONLY NAME, JESUS CHRIST. There is power in that NAME only. At birth Mary called Him GOD. Fulfilling ISAIAH 9:6. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, ONE SON, ONE WORD OF GOD: KJV. John 1:1-14, John 3:16. There was never two sons of God, nor two sons of the PROMISED ONE THRU ABRAHAM. Nor did she give birth to triplets, three sons of God.
      Allah, is nothing but a generic Arabic word for god, like Theos in Greek, Deos in Latin, Elohim in heb. those are ONLY GENERIC WORDS FOR “UNKNOWN GOD”.
      That is not his name. The NAME OF GOD IS JESUS CHRIST, the Lord of Lords, the King of Kings, the WORD. THE “I AM”.
      There is no other NAME by which we MUST BE SAVED. NO OTHER ROCK TO BUILD ON: ACTS 4:10-12 & ISAIAH 28:16.
      There is only ONE CHURCH IN THE BIBLE AND IT STARTED IN ACTS BUILT ON THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
      DEUT. 32:1-4 he said he would publish his name, his name was ROCK; he did in 1 Corin. 10:4. and that ROCK WAS CHRIST.
      Muhammad in 629AD, made up his own religion, found money in it and protection from neighboring warring tribes. HE was a tribal warrior from the Quraysh tribes and they worshipped for centuries at the Hindu Vedic lingam Mosque at Mecca, a giant trading center for all nations and religions and they used to sacrifice humans and camels in that female womb portal on the side of the Shiva FERTILITY lingam they call KAABA, an ancient god block from Nabatean era. It contains phony sacred broken meteorite stones of hindu shiva lingams, enclosed behind glass and millions of pilgrims kiss these pagan stones, ( including the Pope), required of the five pillars of Islamic pagan religion stolen from Vedic Hindus. Pre CHRIST. The Muslim Islamic Shiite religion is not of GOD, it is based off the third person god in the Vedic Trimurti, trinity of Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. Totally LIES from satan. Shiva is the god of chaos and destruction wearing the same CRESCENT moon in his hair that sits on top of Every Mosque in the world in honor to Hubal, baal, the moon god, not allah. The STAR is Ishtar goddess of babylon, both symbols in the ancient Levant, OTTOMAN flag and coat of arms and also in Roman Catholic JESUITS coat of arms. Both groups are pagan religions originally started by hindu vedas many centuries prior to Christ.

      They all need to repent, accept Jesus Christ as their SAVIOUR, and come back to Jewish Jerusalem the road to SALVATION of Jesus Christ. Obey Acts2:38, REPENT, and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for remission of sins and ye shall RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. (And when you receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost, and are baptized in his living water, the Spirit of God, the blood of Jesus Christ, you will speak in unknown tongues as acknowledgment that you HAVE RECEIVED HIS SPIRIT INSIDE YOU. )
      In Jesus name.
      All religions need to come to the foot of the cross, to Jesus Christ.

      • Listening2all

        Thank you for sharing these well researched facts. I agree 100% with what you have written. May Jesus Christ, the life-giving spirit be lifted up for all mankind to see and know. There is no other life-giving spirit, Adam was the first living soul but the last Adam (Jesus) is the life-giving spirit, not Allah, Mohammed, Buddha, Adam, Pope, etc. Adam is the container but Jesus is what fills that container. We must be born again of the spirit to see the Kingdom of God.

        • aka glory

          TO: Listeing2all, Skywatcher, Trish et all: “when the way, the truth and life is in a person, Jesus, the Word made flesh, the life-giving spirit” John 1:1, 14; Acts ch. 1=2; he came back as the Holy Ghost because the flesh was crucified and shed blood on the cross, and HE GAVE UP THE HOLY GHOST when he died and PROMISED TO COME BACK AS THE HOLY GHOST IN HIS NAME JESUS CHRIST. Read Acts ch. 1-22, for those who have not, read it five times. Some people have ‘GOT THE MESSAGE’ he gave to the church. 10 min. is all it takes….if you don’t need to be delivered of pride, self and demons, then it takes longer, but you can HAVE THIS GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST with speaking in unknown tongues. This is NOT THE GIFT OF TONGES. This is THE SPIRIT, THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR ALL TO HAVE AND YOUR CHILDREN AND TO ALL NATIONS. I know because i Know. If you don’t obey Acts 2:38 and WILL BE LEFT BEHIND AND WILL NOT GET OUT IN THE RAPTURE AT OUR DIVINE APPOINTMENT WITH GOD. You need to put off the old man, the old thinking, old tradition and PUT ON THE NEW MAN, THE WORD OF GOD.
          Go to: http://www.cfcky.com and watch both the AM AND PM videos in that order, for Sunday Jan. 17. You will see the LIVING WORD, COME TO LIFE IN A THE REAL CHURCH OUT OF THE BOOK OF ACTS. IT IS STILL ALIVE, GOD IS NOT DEAD.
          when you get to the ‘offering’ to take up tithes, when was the last time your church got that excited over giving money to God, the usher fell out in the Spirit and the whole church exploded with the HOLY GHOST on fire.
          NOTE: Pastor Bates entire family is in church all their life. His mom and dad are in pew number two, his wife is in the balcony watching the ton of grandkids, all his siblings, brothers and sisters and all his children their spouses and children are ll in the church. None are out on drugs or running from God. So something must be going right in their lives. They all get together every week for family prayer.
          we live the book of ACTS THE ‘CHURCH’ JESUS CHRIST SHED HIS BLLOD FOR REMISSION OF SINS…WE FOLLOW ALL THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE. since we are niether Jew nor Greek, that message ACTS ch. 1 & 2 to the Jews first, is also for Gentiles. the longer version is in Acts 10-22:16..Act_22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. WASH AWAY THY SINS….IN THE NAME OF THE LORD
          IF YOU DO NOT BAPTIZE AND BURY UNDER WATER….YOU HAVE NOT WASHED YOUR SINS AWAY, YOU ARE A CATHOLIC,.THEY REMOVED THIS PROCESS FROM THE CHURCH….PUT IT BACK, SATAN CAME TO STEAL COME AND DESTROY.

          Exo_40:32 When they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses. Lev_8:6 And Moses brought Aaron and his sons, and washed them with water. Isa_4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. PROPHECY OF ACTS 2:1-47

          WAHED SINS AWAY PAST TENSE: Heb_10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

          • SkywatcherS

            aka glory, I have the Holy Ghost! I was baptized in the Holy Spirit many years ago, while walking by myself, worshipping and praising Him in a woods! I wouldn’t trade Him or the giftings He has bestowed upon me for two worlds! SINCE that time, He has empowered me to witness to others; He has used me to heal and to deliver, and equipped me for ministry, as evidenced in most of my postings. I wish these stuffy, dried-up and self-righteous churches could have the oil of joy and gladness that they think they have, or wish they had. The the whole world would’ve been turned upside down for the JESUS of the HOLY BIBLE by now if they had! I don’t say that mean-spiritedly, not at all!

            The Holy Spirit makes all the difference in one’s attitude, walk, and ministry! He gives us a zeal and eagerness to serve Him that wasn’t there before. He gives us a strong desire in our hearts to worship and to praise Him all the day long, and not the singing of two or three hymns in church, the taking of the offering, a brief word, and then home.

            “God inhabits the praises of His people”, so the Holy Bible says, and yet, in most conservative churches, they haven’t the slightest idea what that means or entails. Very sad, and then, we are called “deceivers”!

            Even several Baptist pastors in my area have the Gift of the Holy Ghost, and their churches are pleased and growing in Christ and in numbers. The church service isn’t as demonstrative as yours, but He is still there!

            I expect Satan to poke his dirty snotty nose in here, to falsely accuse the brethren. He doesn’t miss a chance, but it’s o.k. Those who dispute the Word, dispute it a lot; they cannot know what that experience is like until they have it. Thank God, our faith isn’t based upon our experiences or EMOTIONS! It’s based upon Jesus Christ, the SOLID Rock! Although, one cannot have salvation without the “EXPERIENCE” of bending the knee to Christ and repenting of one’s sins! So, I guess, “experience” is not always a bad thing.

            I’ve never felt the contractions experienced by a mother in travail, so I cannot relate to her painful “experience”. Only a fool who never had such an experience would say she didn’t have birth pains…the “experience”!

            We know Whom we have, Who gave the gift of the Holy Spirit, and how to allow Him to use us…for His honor and glory…”decently and in order! I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again…Satan will NEVER do ANYTHING that will bring honor, glory, a stronger devotion and commitment to the Lord Jesus Christ, or a passion for a lost and dying world! We’ve got it all, through HIM! Praise His holy name!

            Thanks, for the concern.

        • aka glory

          To all those BELIEVERS that finally RECEIVED the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST AND TRUTH IN BOOK OF ACTS, and to those who wish and desire THE FREE GIFT OF MERCY AND GRACE FROM GOD HIMSELF….WATCH THIS NEW VIDEO I JUST POSTED. You can feel the anointing of the HOLY GHOST in the song. it is only 5 min. and here are the lyrics. (New at uploading videos, be patient with me). I am dedicating this to all the people, I have prayed through to the deliverance from drugs of Heroin, Crack, witchcraft, depression, suicide, demonic voices, since 1986. Discernment and Deliverance is the Gift the LORD gave me after HE Gave me the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST with speaking in unknown tongues, the sign given to ALL BELIEVERS WHO CHOSE TO RECEIVE HIS SALVATION FROM SIN unto Grace and Truth in the Word of God, freely given, freely RECEIVE. This is NOT the Gift of Tongues. See Acts 19:1-20 also, same message. You go ahead non-believers, tell all those people who were demon possessed with Heroin, snorting Percocet, Meth, etc, tell them this isn’t for today, this is not real, tongue talking is no longer happening. I dare you to tell them. The last girl I helped this summer, had over 30 demons in deep layers she was delivered from. She is alive today and CLEAN and living in JESUS NAME. (And was baptized with the HOLY GHOST with speaking in unknown tongues, it is for everyone). Without the GIFT OF THE TRUTH IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, you have no truth, no church, you are NOT SAVED, only just a believer, but NOT SAVED and will be LEFT BEHIND after the RAPTURE.
          CLEAN by Natalie Grant, sung by two girls at our CHURCH…
          https://youtu.be/yk9gYyTDaHg
          NATALIE GRANT LYRICS
          I see shattered
          You see whole
          I see broken
          But You see beautiful
          And You’re helping me to believe
          You’re restoring me piece by piece
          There’s nothing too dirty that You can’t make worthy
          You wash me in mercy
          I am clean.
          There’s nothing too dirty that You can’t make worthy
          You wash me in mercy
          I am clean.
          What was dead now lives again
          My heart’s beating, beating inside my chest
          Oh I’m coming alive with joy and destiny
          Cause You’re restoring me piece by piece
          There’s nothing too dirty that You can’t make worthy
          You wash me in mercy
          I am clean.
          There’s nothing too dirty that You can’t make worthy
          You wash me in mercy
          I am clean.
          Washed in the blood of Your sacrifice
          Your blood flowed red and made me white
          My dirty rags are purified
          I am clean

          Mar 16:16 He that believeth AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
          Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall SPEAK WITH NEW TONGUES; Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents (demons); and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

          Since some of you are UNBELIEVERS in this, then this is the ‘SIGN’ FOR YOU, that I was baptized with the HOLY GHOST.

    • Aka glory

      Marc, if you think for one minute, the Islamic Muslim Shiite religion of today, is a religion of love, I dare you to google images of ” Muslim Child marriages” of that faith. 100’s photos of old men grinning thru opium drug infested teeth, next to one of their new 6 or 7 year old virgin kidnapped brides. Or the family is paid $1,000s to take his child bride. Similar to Catholic priest’s who take in nuns to convents, no different. All the very old Muslim men have a huge exposed machete in their belt. I guess that gives you great power of the pedophile demonic spirit that they are all possessed with. You call that love. You think the Pope has embraced “LOVE” molesting and raping and murdering millions of children and women and AMERICAN Indians, as the Muslims do? India complained when the Muslims invaded, that they lowered the age to marry to a child, multiple rapes, and Muhammad had 20 brides. It is a religion of child rapes, abuse of women. AS Geoffrey hS shared the real truth behind the “Immigration stampede across the world for Jihad”. …and dont get me started on the black coverup of robes required..both Muslim and Catholic robes, those are not for religious reasons, it is to cover up the bruises, whippings, acid burns, and the chopping of female parts. And you wonder why USA does not want anymore Un converted Muslims here? That is why. And I am only talking about today. I am not discussing the Catholic crusaders of the past. They were not and I have never considered Catholicism a Christian religion, BECAUSE none of their practices originate from the holy bible.
      Muslims nor Catholics know what “love” towards women or children is.
      THEY ALL NEED JESUS CHRIST AND THE JEWISH ROAD to SALVATION in the book of ACTS. JESUS is the only Lord and God of this earth. The only truth.

    • Aka glory

      Marc, I forgot the current Stoning and dismemberment if a woman walks to close to a man, or goes out of her house without a man. That is Shiite law. Today, still practised.

      • Aka glory, I know all that, you are right, the devil is working everywhere, but who knows, maybe in the end-time some of them will believe and repent, it seems to me that there are more hope for them than for those of the current babylon “church” that has already fallen! I can say that because it happened that I experienced a time of trouble and during that time, the only person that gave me a glass of water to drink was a Muslim! All the people that call themselves “Christans” – and even their pastors – not only used to help, but even insulted me!

        Also I have NOT the “WRONG UNDERSTANDING AND Lack biblical truth and knowledge” as you say. Those that lack biblical truth and knowledge are those who believe that they still have to go to their local entertainment church that has become a Babylon to be a saved Christian!

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  • Aka glory

    Last month, I prayed a former Muslim thru at the altar of repentance in our church of lots of worship and music to Jesus Christ. See http://www.cfcky.com. We have lots of Joy and speaking in unknown tongues, the GIFT GIVEN TO ALL BY THE HOLY GHOST, because the PERFECT has not returned yet, when JESUS the PERFECT ONE returns, yes all speaking in unknown tongues, prophecy and knowledge will cease and come to a stop. Because satan is stupid and cannot do any of these gifts above.

    She was baptised and RECEIVED the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST, as He PROMISED he would do, in Acts chap. 1 & 2:1-5. It is the BLOOD of Jesus, who is the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of the Living God, not a “person” in manmade trinity doctrine, and in 10 min. She was speaking in unknown TONGUES as the Spirit gave the utterance. No interpretation was needed as tears of Joy fell down her cheeks and babbling away in the spirit and happiness and FINALLY delivered from the devils Muslim religion of hindu Islamic LIES. No no interpretation needed. We rejoiced all of us, about four ladies were speaking in our unknown TONGUES giving thanks to Jesus Christ who PROMISED TO GIVE US THIS SAME GIFT THAT HE GAVE THE OTHERS ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST IN THE UPPER ROOM IN 33AD. 10 minutes, all of you can RECEIVE this gift if you ask him.for it. It is for all nations. Children too.
    God cannot change, lie or die, he us the same yesterday, today and forever. ACTS 2:38 The JEWISH ROAD TO SALVATION FROM SIN. John 14:6
    FYI: this is NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES, as described in 1 Corinthians or Galatians. This is the GIFT OF THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST. As described in the book of Acts, the beginning of a the Churches.

  • aka glory

    Got to video above, about the POPE’s intentions for 2016. At 1:19 spot in film, the Catholic priest is holding a STATUE, IMAGE ( he picked that one out of tons in the church). The Hindu is holding the perfect example of the GOD SHIVA, FERTILITY HINDU LINGAM, the crescent moon in Shiva hair and the male “part” sitting in the female ovum. The spokes around the edge represent the 108 sharp spokes to cut when the disc is THROWN BY THE GOD Vishnu, the disc for destruction. That is what SHIVA IS SITTING ON. Then look at the Rosary beads, if they were hanging down more, they are the exact match to the ANKH, copied in EGYPT but originated, from the hindu shiva lingam shape of male and female, worship to the FEMALE GODDESS OF FERTILITY..and they renamed her mother mary. 53 chants to Mary on those beads folks. that the is catholic road to perdition. You are supposed to chant those Hail Mary everyday, to the sun goddess ISHTAR. or whatever. It is insane. All those are images to a god. Now the last IMAGE is the Menorah, is the LIGHT of ISAIAH 11:2, the eyes of the light, the seven spirits of God, the branch of righteousness, that branch is not prayed to, not prayed on, no chanting. All the other 3 images are prayed to and worshipped and chanted over. NOT the Israeli lite of GOD. That is the difference. They are NOT ALL ALIKE…..they are pagan worship to images and statues.

    • Skywatcher

      aka glory, you’ve got some very good information in your posts. Somebody has done their homework! Have you done all this digging on your own? That was a very astute observation regarding the idols and the Menorah which was not prayed to or over! I wonder how many people are aware of these pagan things?

      Many of your posts keep me intrigued, and interested!

      Skywatcher

      • aka glory

        Skywatcher: I loved it when you said that guy would have better luck at winning the powerball, than shutting down the Vatican Mafia. good laugh and you are right. Yes I have done all this entire research myself, the stories, the Catholic court, the lock up scene, all of it. I have lived it. I have made two little books on my testimony and on GOD IS ONE, I cannot sell on open market due to the content and photos. If you want a copy i can send.
        OK i started out many many years ago in the 50’s raised third/fourth generation BAPTIST. Baptized trinity titles, like the Catholic church has confused us all to do when we haven’t read the bible from cover to cover. We are like sheep being led to the slaughter and the ROMAN ROAD TO PERDITION. We typically follow our parents. I graduated with a BS in Biology, Parasitology and study Medical Technology. I loved forensic medicine and looking up unknowns. Well, i married this very elite prominent Catholic guy and he is the head of extreme organization right now as we speak so I cannot tell you. Well, I learned a lot from the INSIDE OUT of the evil workings of the CATHOLIC ORGANIZATION, SEX SCANDLES, THE SPAS WHERE THE PRIESTS go with parishioners, the little outings the men go on, the pornorgraphy, the nuns that are raped at convents, baby skeletons in the plumbing, the orphanages, etc etc. the financial picture is huge. So i never converted but went along with the show and started noticing more stuff was a lie and a coverup. I was tired of the same routine and he quit going to church and we lied to his parents for years. Then one day, i started reading a bible, in my 30’s and it was strange, i said why am i reading this old huge book. Well, the LORD was convicting me and dealing with me ABOUT HIS TRUTH. i STARTED THIS MASSIVE SEARCH FOR GOD AND WANTED MORE AND MORE TRUTH, SICK OF THE LIES. I read the entire set of Britannica, on all the religions, to find out about God. I bought out the entire OCCULT BOOKSTORE, SEARCHING thru crystals and the NEW AGE PHILOSOPHY OF lies and had my own personal psychic for a few years, having NO CLUE she was demon possessed, but she described it when it entered her and talked to her and she could hurt people at a young age and make things move. I became a member of the MYSTIC NEW AGE UNITY NEW THOUGHT CHURCH and did yoga meditation, etc. all of it. The supernatural was always enticing as i was raised on OUTER LIMITS and TWILIGHT ZONE. I dug deeper and deeper into the bible and finally ONE DAY the LORD told me “HE WAS HIM. HE WAS GOD, He said I AM HE. I AM HE”. { NOT THREE. ONE VOICE and NOT THREE PERSONS IN A GODHEAD. HE WAS ONLY ONE}. Well then i really started searching and the psychic life was falling apart. JER>23. She got food poisoning and her husband tried to kill her. I fell off the chair reading Jer. 23 on false prophets, called up my sister who had miraculously been healed of deadly 3 cancers was supposed to dead, but never died and her hair never fell out during chemo. So i called to see what she had that i did not. She said i was being led by satan and demons. I had no clue. Then she said to read the book of ACTS 5 times, actually the whole NT. and i called her back after i did that and said i needed to be re-baptized in JESUS NAME as it said to do and I wanted this baptism of the HOLY GHOST like she had with the speaking in unknown tongues. So in two weeks, I walked away from the psychic (she had belonged to the Church of Scientology) and the NEW AGE, NEW WORLD ORDER CHURCH, CATHOLICISM, BAPTISTS and jumped into the water and got buried in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, just like JESUS TOLD US TO DO DOWN IN JERUSALEM. I came up out of that water, and there was heaven, angels and all that stuff around over the water, i could feel the supernatural surging everywhere, i stayed in there 20 min. the minister kept speaking in unknown tongues, first time i heard that. Well, i did not get that yet. so i went back the next day and he and his wife prayed with me and in 10 min. yes, 10 min. I WAS BAPTIZED WITH THE ‘GIFT’ OF THE HOLY GHOST with speaking in unknown tongues. My sister got it on her couch, before the Cancer and she got baptized in JESUS NAME one week before cancer was diagnosed. SO DO YOU THINK THERE JUST MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THE NAME OF JESUS AND SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN TONGUES FOR A MIRACLE, I DO. I wanted what she had and got it just like she did and my son got it at age six and spoke in tongues for two hours. continued

      • aka glory

        skywatcher: so, i got saved the BIBLE WAY, NOT THE ROMAN WAY in worthless trinity titles with no evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost. I did it the way we were taught to do it in the bible, to the JEW first and then the gentile.Acts chap. 1-22, you know them…the only place in the bible where salvation plan, doctrine is given by JESUS CHRIST. Well, i got on fire for the LORD and wrote that letter to the nuns and families at the Catholic school and got bolder and bolder and read and read and read the bible over and over. I threw out all the tradition, teachings of men and women and found out satan and devils exist. NO clue in the baptist church. Well, since i messed with the OCCULT although I noticed NONE of those demons could touch me or talk to me and i never have seen one, i started noticing from obeying ACTS 2:28; that i had the gift of discernment, perception and knowledge and understanding. It was growing by leaps and bounds. I HAVE NEVER HAD THE “GIFT OF TONGUES” and i can speak in unknown tongues fluently and a lot daily. That is NOT THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST AS DESCRIBED IN ACTS.
        I started listening to the LORD and followed his leading and people came to me for deliverance from demons and i could cast them out. YOU DONT ever want to mess with that ministry until you have completely OBEYED ACTS 2:38; OR ACTS 19:1-6, 22:16 or the demons can leap on you and attack you. READ CAREFULLY ACTS CHAP. 19 ALL OF IT. WARNING to all. The LORD got me interested in END TIMES, I saved all the CATHOLIC JUNK, PAMPLETS, MAGAZINES, ARTICLES, WORKBOOKS THAT THEY GAVE US AND MY DAUGHTER, I listened and watched and compared and looked up. I read the entire Douay-Rheims version Catholic bible and found that the NT does match the KJV, because that was all i was allowed to read to my daughter per husband. I compared both. The OT is wrong. I kept researching and going deeper, studied all the junk, the pictures and when i retired last year the LORD wanted me to put it all together in a book. I made a DVD powerpoint with over 1400 slides of data. Found my grandfather’s Free Mason ID card 32 degree for 50 years and it has the upside down crosses of LUCIFER. I have an EYE for finding the UNKNOWN and the LORD WILL SUGGEST THE REST and I PRAY SHOW ME GREAT AND UNSEARCHABLE THINGS IN YOUR WORD. THen it pops out. Everyone knows the Egyptian 3rd eye, that is as old as Egypt. Then one day, he said turn the IHS upside down. Back in the 70’s if you played a record backwards it had a satanic message hidden on the record. So i took my laptop and FLIP there it was. THE IHS turned into SHI FOR SHIVA. I had already found the SHIVA Lingams for the past six months, that i did not see anywhere on the internet. It just had all the Egyptian stuff. Then the other day, he said flip the eagle on the dollar bill and voila, there was that old SHIVA DISC AGAIN. Now i see it everywhere. YOU will see the edges first, those are really SHARPENED POINTS ON A DISC to throw and destroy and slice. Actually VISHNU holds it in HIS HAND, but Shiva is the destroyer and has the Crescent MOON. I started googling IMAGES GALORE FOR EVERYTHING. That is where i found President Nixon and Reagan and Truman at the old Bohemian Grove in the drag plays with live child sacrifices. Both dem and rep were there. Rumor was that JFK was going to tell on them that is why they had him killed. JFK did not play by their rules. I google everything and search and search little stuff, look small, that is how i found the 10 horns, i kept clicking and digging. IT is the RED ROMAN CARDINALS OF ROME, you should see my PPT it is cool. They rule the world, THE EU takes orders from them. Then i found the city-states, that was amazing. I read every website on each topic and gathered all the data and reprinted britannica in a box. I have it all collected. ONE THING I DO KNOW. TRINITY IS A LIE, IT IS HERESY FROM THE ANCIENT HINDU VEDAS, the TRIMURTI, the statues, the multiple arms are the 3 gods in the godhead. The Vatican was not so original when they cooked up that lie from the lotus blossom worshippers. They stole the statues, the names, the KILDARE water well, the zam zam water. It all made big money. continued

      • aka glory

        Skywatcher: So now lets see. Picture yourself in Rome at the time of CHRIST. In comes this walking God in the flesh, Jesus and he says follow me. The Jews follow, no problem, but then the other publicans, the Greeks, the Samaritans, the Gentiles started following this man called JESUS AND GOD. The biggest profitable trade at that time. It was the temples to Diana, the altars, the huge columns, the God blocks, and they made pillars galore, statues of everything, if you worshipped your toenails, you could probably get a statue for that. India the same way, have you ever seen all those statues and temples to the gods, zillions of gardens filled with hindu fertility lingams to Shiva. I mean zillions. google it. So in Rome and Greece, the temples were abundant on every corner, the vestal virgins prepared them for human and animal and plant sacrifices, the statues and images abounding by the 100’s. The trade was off the books and they statue makers were RICH, RICH RICH. Well, the Jews and new Christians were taught by JESUS TO TURN FROM IDOLATRY and follow HIM, and after he died HE was just a HOLY GHOST in the wind. No one to look at. the 10 commandments said NO STATUES. THE new doctrine of Salvation in Jerusalem was setting up CHURCH without idols and statues to worship. YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO GOD YOUR SELF, you did not need a Priest to saved anymore. THE IDOLATRY TRADE was wanning and losing money, the stock market on marble and stone was falling quickly. NO one wanted statues anymore. MITHRA cult, the NABATEANS, all were heavy then and into tons of idolatry. SO by 325AD, the ROMAN EMPEROR heard enough of the cries of whoa from the stone masons and decided to make this happy ONE WORLD UNIVERSAL CHURCH CREATED BY THE ROMANS and called it CATHOLICISM and made it OK TO HAVE STATUES AGAIN. They took away the bibles from the people, for over 1500 years, and kept it only in latin. The DARK AGES. The MITHRA cult, from the HINDUS, seeped into the CATHOLIC CHURCH and they adopted the ZAM ZAM WATER, THE MONSTRACE, the robes, the idols, the temples, the food to the god thing, the vestal virgins, kept the priests, and turned CHRISTIANITY INTO A COMPLETE CONFUSED MIXED UP MESS, A CAULDRON OF ALL THE RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD. Remember, the CONSTANT PARADE AT THE PORTS WITH SHIPS COMING IN AND OUT, they would rush to the local temple, make their sacrifices to keep the gods happy and off again. THE DRIBBLING OF CULTS CAME INTO CHRISTIANITY. the Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem. SO I STARTED READING THE BIBLE AND TOOK IT AT ITS WRITTEN WORD, OBEYED IT AND MIRACLES STARTED HAPPENING FOR ME. Before i got saved, i forgot to tell you while i was in the occult, i tried to commit suicide twice and was taking all sorts of psychiatric drugs and was having a nervous breakdown, insomnia, no sleep, nitemares and in deep depression. The week before I got saved when i called my sister, I throw all the pills away and left the psychiatrist, the occult and never got any withdrawal symptoms. I got saved by Acts 2:38, just like my sister. Ask your pastor to re-baptize as WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE IN 2:28 AND YOU CAN GET THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST ANYWHERE. Jimmy Swaggert on SBN has been having a lot more of the LIVING SPIRIT ON HIS PROGRAM.

      • aka glory

        SKYWATCHER: finally, this summer i started finding all this stuff on CERN, SDA STUFF ON POPE, matching my own findings from 1980 and put it all together. I must have read the entire WIKIPEDIA, clicking every blue word. I learned more history this past year than in 60+ years of living. I watched Mark Biltz on the REAL ARMOUR OF GOD and it is not a metal roman outfit, that was interesting. I found out the triangle hand sign is not free mason, but actually a JEWISH blessing see SPOCK, he was a JEW and did it all the time. Then one day on the map of google, someone saw if you put in the date 9/21/15 only on the map it would go right to CERN, amazing. while on the map i noticed five miles up the road, THE ‘ATLAS BUILDING’ so i clicked that out of curiosity. PRESTO, tons of pictures of THE REAL CERN STUFF HIDDEN AWAY FROM THE MAP SITE, and the mascot of CERN : SHIVA . I also watched every one of RACHEL MOSES findings on all the movies made on 9/21, CERN, and even though she predicted the date wrong, her stuff was amazing, the data. then one day she said the ILLUMINATI game in 1982, had the destruction of the TWIN TOWERS FOR 9/11 in that game. I pondered that for weeks and asked God how could they know the date that far in advance? Madonna did an evil play on 9/21/12 before everyone was predicting the rapture at the last blood moon on 9/21/15, I l kept asking God about this 9/21 date every year. Well the JESUITS TOOK OVER THE KILLING OF TRUE CHRISTIANS FROM THE CRUSADERS and the papal bull was signed for THE EXTREME OATH in Sept. 1541. That is the month and the day that got permission to do their dirty work. So each year in September around the 21st look for something very evil connected to the Vatican to happen. The next biggest HUGE EVENT is when THE STARS, THE ZODIAC, THE ‘CATHOLIC GODS AND GODDESSES’ are all lined up in a row, the sun above the head, the moon at the foot, the woman of Revelations 12, and she is pregnant with JUPITER ( POPE REP IN THE STARS)…all line up for the great american solar eclipse on AUGUST 21, 2017. so September should be a big breakout of something really, really evil to go with that. I hope we are out of here then . Please i beg you all get the ACTS 2:38 DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE…that is the JERUSALEM ROAD TO SALVATION. He is gathering in the SPIRITUAL CHOSEN JEWS, THE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, BACK TO MESSAGE HE GAVE PETER IN JERUSALEM IN 33AD. The same as the LORD IS GATHERING IN THE NATURAL BORN JEWS, THE 12 TRIBES, to fulfill the 144,000 in ISRAEL. When that is done, we will be done and the RAPTURE will happen. Does anyone have the numbers of each tribe that has returned yet? Also, Geoffrey is absolutely correct, It is Elijah and MOSES are the two witnesses. BOTH OF THEM PARTED A RIVER and the EUPHRATES RIVER IS SUPPOSED TO DRY UP AND MOVE OUT OF THE WAY IN THE END TIMES FOR THE NORTH TO MOVE IN.

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    • aka glory

      CERN IS THE ‘BEAST’ THAT WILL COLLECT ALL THE DATA THRU GOOGLE FROM ALL OUR MEDICAL CHARTS, FINANCIAL AND EMAILS ONLINE. THE EYE WITH THE EYE, THE WHEEL WTIHIN THE WHEEL….IN EZEKIEL. That extra eye on the front of your phone, next to the camera is watching you all the time. i have black electric tape over my laptop web. NO ONE IS looking at me now. COVER THAT WEB CAM until you use it. The new smart TV IS LOOKING INTO YOUR LIVING ROOM when you do not know it. Get that black electric tape and cover it until you want to use it.

      A Laboratory for the World AND WE HAD NO CLUE WHAT THE WORLD WAS UP TO. GERMANY NOW IS THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR. We thought it was just an EARTHQUAKE MAKER….WE WERE SO DECEIVED. MONEY MONEY….GOOGLE, VATICAN. WASHINGTON DC, THE CITY OF LONDON…..THAT IS YOUR CONNECTION TO THE BEAST…THIS IS TRULY THE BEAST. GO TO “ATLAS BUILDING CERN” in switzerland. Also the 2nd half is directly under the FRENCH temple to some satanic god, 300 feet below the earth.

      U.S. to contribute $531 million to CERN’s Large Hadron Collider project

      08 Dec 1997

      Geneva, 8 December 1997. U.S. and European officials today signed an agreement for U.S. participation in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), a particle accelerator under construction near Geneva, Switzerland. When completed in 2005, the 27-kilometre circumference accelerator will be the most powerful in the world.
      Since the mid-1980s the number of scientists from all over the world using CERNs facilities has increased enormously. Currently more than 6500 users, over half of the planet’s experimental high-energy physicists, carry out fundamental research at CERN. This user community, coming from all parts of the world, is living proof that CERN welcomes inter-regional collaboration which benefits all and boosts the progress of science. The LHC, the only machine capable of addressing problems way beyond today’s frontiers of high energy physics, offers a unique opportunity for extending world wide collaboration. The door is open for non-Member States to become partners in the final design, construction and exploitation of the LHC machine and its experiments and there has been considerable enthusiasm from non Member States. In addition to the U.S. contribution:
      Japan has already made a generous contribution of 8.85 billion Yen.
      An agreement was signed in March 1996 with India providing for a contribution to the LHC accelerator with a net value for CERN of $ 12.5 million.
      An agreement was signed with Russia in June 1996 which provides for a contribution to the LHC accelerator and detectors, each with net values for CERN of 67 million Swiss Francs.
      An agreement has been signed with Canada, allowing for an in-kind contribution to the LHC during the first half of the construction period with a value of $ 30 million Canadian.
      The foundation of CERN in the post-war years set a precedent in uniting the nations of Europe to carry out high quality research. The LHC now offers the exciting opportunity of establishing a model for future world-wide collaboration in ‘Big Science’.
      http://press.web.cern.ch/press-releases/1997/12/us-contribute-531-million-cerns-large-hadron-collider-project

  • David Kaus

    Stay away from this church:
    http://www.cfcky.com Kenneth Copeland, and Hagin would feel right at home in it.

    “Aka glory” posted this on Jan 13, at 11:01 p.m. above. She states: “You can watch our church on Internet @ http://www.cfcky.com. Pastor Tommy Bates used the Tallit on prayer for a 3 month old baby and she was healed the next day of massive brain cancer.”

    The Tallit is a Jewish fringed garment. Using this garment to try to heal someone is nothing less than mysticism, which is a spiritualized Judaism. All things are done in the name of Jesus Christ not through some “sacred” relic, or Jewish prayer cloth. Galatians warns about the judaizers coming into the Church to corrupt it.

    If the baby truly did get healed it was due to some one’s sincere prayer to Jesus Christ for this healing, which this church pastor is now trying to take credit for.

    She also claims that her sins were washed away by water baptism. Water baptism is symbolic of having been cleansed from sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ, and resurrected to a new life in Christ Jesus.

    The is nothing Holy about the spirit she is trying to get every one baptised with in “10” minutes. It is another spirit that Paul warned the Church about. The Charismatic/Pentecostal Word of “Faith” movement is full of delusions, and deceptions like these.

    The Holy Spirit indwells all who come to a saving faith in the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ can wash away sins. There is only one baptism, and one faith.

    Galatians 3″1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

    2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

    The Holy Spirit is received by the hearing of faith in Jesus Christ period, and not by ecstatic “tongues” babbling, and trying to get this occult “experience” in 10 minutes.

    5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

    Paul didn’t use a Tallit to work miracles.

    22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

    26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

    And if you didn’t get the Holy Spirit through faith in the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ for your sins, you are none of His.

    • aka glory

      they used handkerchiefs in healing all the time in the New Testament. They used cloth in prayer. That is in the bible. The miracle is not in the cloth and yes, Jesus Christ does the healing. The cloth is just symbollic and the Lord said to use the Tallit that nite only.
      Yes the bible says to baptized in JESUS NAME TO WASH AWAY SINS: What do you think ‘REMISSION OF SINS’ means when jesus said to go down to Jerusalem for REMISSION OF SINS, that is REMOVAL OF SINS. The upper room experience can happen in 10 minutes. and you will never understand it until you get it. You are using a NATURAL MIND and will not understand it…until you get it the baptism of the Gift of the HOLY GHOST, like in the upper room.
      and Peter said again: Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
      and Paul said to Gentiles: Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
      Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
      Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
      Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
      Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
      and Paul said again: Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
      and Paul said again: Heb 10:22 … and our bodies washed with pure water.
      PLAIN KJV ENGLISH, BAPTISM IN WATER IN JESUS NAME, WILL WASH AWAY SINS. BY BOTH DISCIPLES. AND BY JESUS
      BAPTISM IN HOLY GHOST IS WONDERFUL…10 MIN. PRAY PEOPLE THRU EVERY WEEK. YOU NEED TO START IN ACTS, NO SKIPPING ALLOWED…YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE AFTER EVERYONE ALREADY WAS BAPTISED IN THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. THIS IS NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES….SORRY YOU ARE WRONG…YOU WILL NOT KNOW UNTIL YOU REALLY, REALLY GET IT.

    • aka glory

      David Kaus: no. 1, Pastor Bates was obeying the LORD which is more than I can say for you.
      no. 2 they used cloth, handkerchiefs, and aprons in the bible:
      Act 19:8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. Act 19:9 But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus. Act 19:10 And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks. Act 19:11 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
      Act 19:12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
      It was used in the bible for miracles….Mar_5:28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.
      Mar_5:30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?
      If you had a 3 month old baby diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, I bet you would come to the altar for anything, any cure if it was your baby….my sister had Stage IVB Hodgkins disease, Bone cancer in all her bones, and a hip cancer. She was diagnosed in 1980 with these cancers. She weighed 83 pounds on a 5’6″ frame and could not even keep down water. She was being abused by her husband and she looked like a walking skeleton. She had just been baptized with the LIVING SPIRIT OF GOD, THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST WITH SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN TONGUES on her couch at home. The LORD told her to now get re-baptized in JESUS NAME the right way told by HIM in the bible in the book of Acts. Why because she needed to HAVE HIS POWER INSIDE HER TO FIGHT OFF THESE DEMONS OF CANCER. We were raised baptist without a clue. So the next week she was diagnosed and given her first huge chemo treatment, Nitrogen Mustard, used in chemical warfare, Adriomycin, Bleomycin and something else. They said she would lose all her body hair and be totally bald by the end of the week. Well, she got on the floor of that hospital that nite, desperate in prayer 3 hours talking to JESUS. They sent her home to die and told us to make funeral arrangements that she would be dead in two weeks. that was in 1980. WEll, her HAIR NEVER FELL OUT, SHE DID NOT GO BALD, LIKE EVERY I KNEW, and she did not die. I just off the phone today in 2016 talking to her and she now weighs 175 lbs, left the abusive husband and is happy and speaks in unknown tongues in prayer and was baptized in JESUS NAME the week the started chemo. So tell me that my church is wrong? HUH??? Have you been desperate enough or sick enough to do anything the LORD tells you to do. obviously not. Thank you for POSTING THAT WONDERFUL MIRACLE OF GOD WHO DID HEAL THAT BABY AND YES THE GRANDFATHER PUT THE TALLIT OVER HIS SHOULDERS STANDING IN FOR HIS BABY GRANDDAUGHTER DYING OF CANCER. WE do crazy things when we are desperately sick and know JESUS is the answer. Thank you again for posting that wonderful video of a miracle from God. I help people get delivered from heroin and crack etc all the time. Tell me if those demons aren’t real. You better have what I have before you mess with those monsters on your own. It takes an hour an half and they come up in layers and they are as strong as football players when those drug demons come out of person. You don’t have a clue, buddy. Not a clue what you are really dealing with.
      That lady with the ISSUE OF BLOOD, SICK FOR 12 YEARS, DESPERATE FOR AN ANSWER AND CURE. Reached out and TOUCHED THE ‘HEM OF HIS GARMENT’ and virtue and left him for the healing. CLOTH CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU ARE DESPERATE. We anoint hankies with oil and take those home for healing, and to the hospital, also. My sister still has her three anointed hankies with her. You go tell her she is a fool and an idiot. Go ahead. God will sometime use the foolish things to confound the wise. HE IS STILL GOD ON THE THRONE> Rom_1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

      • TorchbearerforJesus

        aka Glory, thank you, for that wonderful testimony! I have seen God heal the sick many times, and he has used me a time or two in the process. There are no words to describe it when it happens, and all I could do was give God thanks and glory, and move on. I didn’t get a puffed up head over it, or say, “See me!” Not at all; it’s a very humbling experience to know that the Healing Christ, Jehovah-Rophe was present in that way. Cancers of the worst kind, not that any of them are “good”, have to flee in the name of Jesus, when ministered to in faith, BELIEVING. Fear of stepping out in faith, and praying the prayer of faith has caused a lot of people to go prematurely to their graves. Their loved ones have been told, “It was God’s will” or that, “They have received a far better healing; they’re with Jesus now”! How foolish, lazy, and deceitful! “Christian cowards” and “Doubting Thomas’s”, I call them.

        My dear sister, Jesus had the same trouble with the religious skeptics of His day. They also accused Him of casting out devils and healing by the power of Satan, but we who read the account, know better, because He clarified their doubtful thinking. Unfortunately, as Skywatcher told this David dude a couple of times or so…we cannot be “putting God in a box” and dictating to Him how He should or should not work! It’s all right there in the Word, black and white, plain and simple. Too simple maybe… Perhaps, that’s why Jesus said, we are to have faith like children…simple faith.

        I fear for those who condemn the works of the Holy Spirit as being “works of Satan”! That’s blasphemy against the H.S., and it comes with a hefty price. A long time ago, I learned that if I expected God to do great and mighty things, He would, but not always in the way I’d expected. Even Jesus said, “Ask, and it shall be given unto you.” What part of that do they not understand or not want to believe? Perhaps, it is their weak faith coupled with fear that prevents them from knowing God’s power on this level. Jesus said we would be doing these things and greater! But in the West, it’s NOT allowed! Is it any wonder why the West is under God’s judgment? I’m not wondering.

        These kinds of miracles happen all the time in the third world countries! Even the dead are raised back to life! I think that so many of us in the West, think we have God all figured out, and He has to do things our way. WRONG! The worship and praise that these people in those countries give to Him is leap years ahead of the singing of three hymns, a 1.5 min. prayer, taking up the offering, and then go home to roast the pastor, as we do here! They know what demons and spirits are! They live among them and see themselves or loved ones be delivered of them and changed for the better! They’re as real to them as the person sitting next to them! They know the seriousness of having them cast out, and what can happen if it is done incorrectly!

        We’ve been so spiritually desensitized and “educated” in the “civilized” West, that apparently, when God does honor His Word and produce a miracle, or a message is given in tongues, with an interpretation, we tend to wrongly accuse the devil of doing it! We so eagerly and anxiously ascribe the glory and praise that should be going to God only, to the devil! I’d rather speak three words in tongues than to do that!

        Someone on here has said, “that was a different dispensation”! What a cop out that is! If that was of a different dispensation, so is grace, regeneration, and justification by faith! So is the rest of the N.T. beyond the Gospels!

        You have given Skywatcher (and the rest of us) a lot of information to consider. If you don’t mind, I’m going to dig into it a little deeper…if that is possible!

        Thank you, aka glory, for your time and testimony! I’m so happy for the baby, it’s family, and your sister! Praise the Lord! He is able to do unto the uttermost! He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever! He changes not!

        Keep a tight grip on your “pearls”, aka glory, and stay the course! Your accusers and naysayers are going to look mighty funny to see the Pentecostal brethren in Heaven, leading in praise and worship, while they’re still learning how! I believe this will be one of the reasons there will be tears in Heaven: they rejected the works of the Holy Spirit, and will cry when our Savior points it out to them in Heaven, and the many blessings they poo-pooed away because of fear and distrust in Him. Rev. 21: 4.

        • aka Glory

          Thank you for that compliment. One thing I definitely never walk out of church the same way I came in. I plan on helping one more get that baptism of the Holy Ghost and feel the Joy of the LORD deep in their heart. I do not sit and warm the pew and I always leave in a sweat. Praying with people is a better workout than zumba. Phone calls from the lady delivered from 30+ demons, that took 3 weeks. That is the joy of the LORD. If you plan on stealing back from satan when you go thru those doors, the Lord will set right next to that PERSON who needs Jesus. Oh, I wish I could be there when he fills you to overflowing living water. 10 min. If you turn on SBN, jimmy swaggert, he has lots of Holy Ghost music every day and you could pray thru to that baptism of the Holy Ghost while singing. Sure they request for money, but the good part is a lot better than other shows on tv. Let me know when you get that Holy Ghost deep.inside, you will feel a real ghost come inside you and then your tongue gets weird. Let it go, give it to him. There is nothing like it. IT IS FOR EVERYONE, EVERYONE. God does not change lie or die. Get your kids blessed. They need it too. In Jesus Name Acts 2:1-38 is the ONLY WAY FOR A BELIEVER TO BE SAVED. The Lord said so in Acts 2:47. I also had an excellent 6 Generation Pentecostal teacher who was praying for some one to teach and I walked in the door of my first Pentecostal Church right into her arms, hungry for a teacher and truth.

          • TorchbearerforJesus

            aka Glory, do you mean to say that the shed blood does NOT provide forgiveness of sins? I think some people are getting that out of your post. Heb. 9: 22 tells us, “…and without the shedding of blood is no remission.” The remission of sins.

            I would also like to hear your “take” on Gen. 1: 26. Who is the “us” and “our” here? You don’t believe in the Trinity, so are there three Gods? Just curious to hear your theology on these points.

            Thank you!

    • Heather

      Oh my. I thought aka glory was a him not a her. Lol

  • Most of the churches are apostate and in bed with the world AND the Great Harlot “church” of Rome.
    Turn to Christ and live for Him alone as Redeemer, Savior, AND LORD.

    • Listening2all

      Yes. Name above all names, Jesus Christ alone. He said “He is the Truth, the Way and the Life and no one comes to the Father except through Me”. First Adam was made a living soul but the last Adam is the life-giving Spirit. We need both the first and the last Adam, a metaphor would be to first make the container then add the filling, the container must come first before it can be filled. Sadly most people try and fill the container themselves in all sorts of ways and imaginations, when the way, the truth and life is in a person, Jesus, the Word made flesh, the life-giving spirit.

  • David Kaus

    I repeat, Stay Away From This Church: http://www.cfcky.com

    Aka glory has no clue how to rightfully divide God’s Word. She doesn’t know the difference between the historical book of Acts, and plain doctrine stated in Romans about how the Holy Spirit is received, that Pentecost fulfilled a Jewish Feast and brought in the New Covenant, that God did special miracles by the apostle Paul that He did not do for others.

    God does not give every one license to do whatever they please. And saying you can do what ever you please because God can’t be put in a box is a total lie. Such nonsense comes out of the apostate Charismatic church with Kenneth Copeland, and Hagin types. Scripture is our guide line not the presumption of the apostate Charismatics who try to justify a false “experience” by saying God can’t be put in a box.

    It is quite evident in 1 Corinthians that back then the Holy Spirit did NOT give the gift of tongues, real languages, to everyone. It was a gift and not the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Scripture here is as plain as it gets. And the Holy Spirit gave it to whomsoever HE pleased, no one when out and got it by themselves in 10 minutes.

    This total heretical nonsense that some one can get the Holy Spirit in 10 minutes and babble some total gibbeish believing that they have received the Holy Spirit is a total delusion to believe a lie. The only spirit anyone will get from this occult “experience” is one Paul warned the people in the Church about, and called it “another spirit” which they did not receive when they believed on Jesus Christ and His Blood Atonement for their sins.

    The Holy Spirit indwells all true Christians after they have been cleansed by the Blood of Jesus Christ. There is no other way The HOLY SPIRIT will indwell anyone. All that have not gotten the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus Christ are none of His.

    Lying signs wonders and miracles are a last days delusion that will fill the Whore Church.

    So let me repeat again what I posted before:

    Stay away from this church:
    http://www.cfcky.com Kenneth Copeland, and Hagin would feel right at home in it.

    “Aka glory” posted this on Jan 13, at 11:01 p.m. above. She states: “You can watch our church on Internet @ http://www.cfcky.com. Pastor Tommy Bates used the Tallit on prayer for a 3 month old baby and she was healed the next day of massive brain cancer.”

    The Tallit is a Jewish fringed garment. Using this garment to try to heal someone is nothing less than mysticism, which is a spiritualized Judaism. All things are done in the name of Jesus Christ not through some “sacred” relic, or Jewish prayer cloth. Galatians warns about the judaizers coming into the Church to corrupt it.

    If the baby truly did get healed it was due to some one’s sincere prayer to Jesus Christ for this healing, which this church pastor is now trying to take credit for.

    She also claims that her sins were washed away by water baptism. Water baptism is symbolic of having been cleansed from sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ, and resurrected to a new life in Christ Jesus.

    The is nothing Holy about the spirit she is trying to get every one baptised with in “10” minutes. It is another spirit that Paul warned the Church about. The Charismatic/Pentecostal Word of “Faith” movement is full of delusions, and deceptions like these.

    The Holy Spirit indwells all who come to a saving faith in the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ can wash away sins. There is only one baptism, and one faith.

    Galatians 3″1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

    2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

    The Holy Spirit is received by the hearing of faith in Jesus Christ period, and not by ecstatic “tongues” babbling, and trying to get this occult “experience” in 10 minutes.

    5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

    Paul didn’t use a Tallit to work miracles.

    22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

    26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

    And if you didn’t get the Holy Spirit through faith in the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ for your sins, you are none of His.

    • aka glory

      Once again David K. you are totally clueless to the LIVING TRUTH IN THE PAGES OF THE WHOLE BIBLE. You still belong to that chainsaw group. I can stand and obeyed the WHOLE WORD OF GOD and stand, saved on the Rock of Jesus. don’t worry though, i used to wear your shoes many years ago, before 1986. THen I was desparate for more of HIM, more TRUTH and he baptized and filled me with the LIVING WATER THE LIVING BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, whom He sent back in HIS NAME.
      I could pray you through….at the altar,…but i have a feeling you will take a weeeee bit longer than 10 minutes. You have a lot of PRIDE that has to be killed first. Then reading assignment BOOK OF ACTS five times. go read, dear David and you too can be saved like some of us who have OBEYED THE WILL OF GOD. Remember, that DISOBEDIENCE TO THE WILL OF GOD, is REBELLION and REBELLION IS THE SIN OF WITCHCRAFT. We that are believers and saved by the WORD OF GOD in Acts are very very patient and we truly can wait you out until you find the SAME TRUTH. We are used to being abused, bashed and cut to the core. NO problem, HIS TRUTH always wins in the end….HE IS GOD and you aren’t. When you finally figure out that you are not GOD and cannot rewrite HIS WORD or WILL…then you too will be SAVED FROM YOUR SINS and get WASHED IN JESUS NAME TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE FLESH. Sundays 11AM and 6PM EST , meet you at the FOOT OF THE CROSS.

  • David Kaus

    BELIEVE WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS ABOUT YOUR SINS BEING fORGIVEN AND NOT THE DELUDED HERESIES OF “AKA glory” WHO BELIEVES WATER BAPTISM TOOK AWAY HER SINS.

    She is just as deluded about this sound doctrine as she is about her ecstatic, pagan “tongues” …………..experience. The Whore Church will totally reject God’s word, and be led by mystical “experiences.” Don’t be part of it.

    The Blood of Jesus Christ For Forgiveness Of Sins: Hebrews 9:22 Leviticus 17:11 Mathew 26:28

    No other truth is so essential to our faith as that of the Blood Atonement. “Without shedding of blood there is no remission” of sins (Hebrews 9:22). “It is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul” (Leviticus 17:11). Jesus Himself said, “This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28).

    Is there a reader who would dare say that any of the great fundamental truths of the Christian faith are founded upon only a single text of Scripture? The Inspiration of the Bible, the Trinity, the Deity of Christ, the Blood Atonement— NONE are established by an isolated verse.

    Heb 9:22 And almost all things – For some were purified by water or fire. Are according to the law purified with blood – Offered or sprinkled. And according to the law, there is no forgiveness of sins without shedding of blood – All this pointed to the blood of Christ effectually cleansing from all sin, and intimated, there can be no purification from it by any other means.

    And without shedding of blood is no remission – Remission or forgiveness of sins. That is, though some things were purified by fire and water, yet when the matter pertained to the forgiveness of sins, it was “universally” true that no sins were pardoned except by the shedding of blood. Some impurities might be removed by water and fire, but the stain of “sin” could be removed only by blood. This declaration referred in its primary meaning, to the Jewish rites, and the sense is, that under that dispensation it was universally true that in order to the forgiveness of sin blood must be shed. But it contains a truth of higher order and importance still. “It is universally true that sin never has been, and never will be forgiven, except in connection with, and in virtue of the shedding of blood.” It is on this principle that the plan of salvation by the atonement is based, and on this that God in fact bestows pardon upon people. There is not the slightest evidence that any man has ever been pardoned except through the blood shed for the remission of sins. The infidel who rejects the atonement has no evidence that his sins are pardoned; the man who lives in the neglect of the gospel, though he has abundant evidence that he is a sinner, furnishes none that his sins are forgiven; and the Mussulman and the pagan can point to no proof that their sins are blotted out. It remains to be demonstrated that one single member of the human family has ever had the slightest evidence of pardoned sin, except through the blood of expiation. In the divine arrangement there is no principle better established than this, that all sin which is forgiven is remitted through the blood of the atonement; a principle which has never been departed from hitherto, and which never will be. It follows, therefore:

    • aka glory

      David: the HOLY GHOST is the SUPERNATURAL BLOOD OF JESUS. Remember when Mary got pregnant, WHO GOT HER PREGNANT? The HOly Ghost enclosed his spirit in her flesh, to become the LAST sacrificial lamb to be killed for the sins of all nations. When the flesh died on the cross, HE GAVE UP THE GHOST because the SPIRIT OF GOD CANNOT DIE. His flesh died, the SON OF MAN, part died and rose from the dead as the resurrected, glorified body of Christ. When you repent, (die to self) and get buried with him in death, in the water baptism, in JESUS NAME, the sins of your flesh are washed away.
      Acts 2:38; 8; 10:43=48; 19:1-6; 22:16…Heb. 10:22; Romans chap. 6; Galatians ch. 1-4. Go back to Genesis 11-17, explains the two Covenants perfectly and what water baptism is for. Cutting away of the flesh from bondage to the law, a spiritual circumcision of the heart. YOu will get it eventually, after you read the BOOK OF ACTS. you need to read more. Been speaking in unknown tongues for 29 years and prayed another one thru to the same Pentecostal, tongue talking blessing of the GIFT of the holy ghost….good thing you are NOT GOD, cause you would hold back this Gift from others that are not like you….hang in there, you will get it…keep reading. IT IS LIVING WORD, it does’t change, lie or die. Just you will….
      TRINITY IS THE BIGGEST LIE OF SATAN, GENERATED BY THE ROMAN CATHOLICS, BASED ON PAGANISM AND HINDU TRIMURTI, TO VISHNU, BRAHMA, SHIVA. That is bunk, baloney and hogwash….HE IS THE ‘I AM’ NOT THE ‘WE ARE’. God is not a pizza you can cut up into sections.
      keep reading…HE WILL SHOW YOU.. how many voices do you hear? GOD IS ONE, there is none beside him. HE is alone, HIS NAME IS ONE, not we three kings….

  • David Kaus

    Some presumptuous people in the Bible that thought that ” You Could Not Put God In A Box.”

    Korah: The Earth Swallows Up Korah Numbers 16

    Mariam: Miriam became leprous, white as snow: Numbers 12

    Israelites who presumptuously when to the promised land:

    Then the Amalekites came down, and the Canaanites which dwelt in that hill, and smote them…Numbers 14

    Nadab and Abihu: And Nadab and Abihu died, when they offered strange fire before the LORD. Numbers 26:61

    Saul king of Israel; And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, 1 Samuel 15:26

    Hophni and Phinehas “And the Ark of God was taken, and the two sonnes of Eli, Hophni, and Phinehas were slaine.” Hophni and Phinehas 1 Samuel 4:11

  • Rapture Rooster

    David Kaus, again, you are comparing apples to oranges, and taking Scripture out of context. Why don’t you just drop it and let God bless those people. I listened carefully as I watched the video clip aka glory provided, and I saw nothing out of line with the Bible.

    Yes, their style of worship might be a lot different from what most of us are used to, and I’ll tell you something…I watched it all the way through, and because of the pastor’s theatrics, I remember more of his sermon than I did of long boring, dry and stuffy “messages” I’ve heard from others in the past. In fact, I woke up this morning, remembering his message. Usually, ten minutes after getting home from church I can’t remember what was spoken.

    I didn’t see anybody in this church service rolling on the floor, barking like dogs, defecating, speaking in uncontrolled tongues, frothing or foaming, etc. I saw people worshipping God in Spirit and in truth, with total surrender to Him. They were not making any scene, and they were listening to sound doctrine. I didn’t hear the pastor state that sins are forgiven by anything other than the blood of Jesus. In fact, United Pentecostals preach that sins are forgiven only through the blood of Jesus. I believe aka glory may have “skipped a beat” in her statement to that regard, but that does not truly represent her church’s doctrinal position. I think those things would sink your case as their accuser.

    I have been following the posts, and you said, “God does not give every one license to do whatever they please. And saying you can do what ever you please because God can’t be put in a box is a total lie.”

    I haven’t seen a single soul on here say they can “do whatever they please”! You’re so bent out of shape with self-righteousness and hatred, that you cannot see the truth directly in front of you. You have to twist it to make your point. You have NO evidence to substantiate your claim or to prove this church guilty of anything unscriptural; so sad, to see you do that. I wish that church was closer to where I live; I’d go in a heart beat, because there appears to be copious evidence of life, consecration and commitment evident in its congregation that is lacking in most congregations!

    Guess what, Pilgrim…in recent years, Baptists have been shutting down their churches, locking the doors and drifting away like the dried up spiritual dust bunnies that they are! Their buildings are being taken over by Muslims and the LGBT! Why? Because they had NOTHING to offer but “a form of godliness, denying the power thereof”! They sucked the life right out of the Gospel. I believe there has to be a balance, and I saw that in aka glory’s church service.

    Having said that, I don’t believe you have any right to be the spiritual judge/discerner for the rest of us here. Pick up your little blankey, and crawl off home now. Wipe the venom off your fangs! We got the message…you’re the only one going to Heaven, and the rest, who don’t tow your “party line” and worship and praise God in a stuffy and dried up manner are going to Hell. You’re in for a big shock, buddy! Many of the hymns in your Baptist hymnal and other very popular gospel songs of yesterday and today, were written by Spirit-filled, anointed Pentecostals and other born again Christians! They too, will be in Heaven! You don’t have a “corner” on that market! In fact, you may have to sit in a corner and take lessons from them, as to how to worship and praise properly, as someone else has hinted in a previous post! I hope you like crow…

  • David Kaus

    You’re crowing like a rooster, rapture rooster. Go back and read what aka glory posted. And then reread what I posted. There is no remission of sins from water Baptism. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse from sin. Then go and read 1 Corinthians 12,13,14. The gift of tongues was not given to everyone, and is not a baptism of the Holy Spirit. Then read Galatians 3 where it states that faith alone in Jesus Christ brings one into the Body of Christ. That can only be done through the baptism of the Holy Spirit. All who have not this faith have not the Holy Spirit and are none of Christ’s.

    Like all hypocrites you accuse me of judging others while you sit there in judgment of me. Hello !!! Your in a state of confusion because you can not divide the Word of God rightfully.

    In addition Scripture itself tells us to judge with righteous judgment. To try the spirits to see if they are of God. To reject a heretic after the first, or second admonition. To teach no other doctrine. All of this takes spiritual discernment, and rightly dividing God’s Word, and judging according to the Word of God.

    And by the way why in your hypocritical wrong judgment of me haven’t you judged aka glory the same way for her judgement of me ??? You seemed to have over looked that you blind leader of the blind.

    You might take a few English lessons along with some biblical ones. Saying you can’t put God in a box is saying exactly that you can be presumptuously doing something that can’t be established by Scripture, that leaves the field wide open to anything, and everything. Even a ten year old could understand that.

    As for crawling, only snakes like you are capable of that.

    The only ones going to heaven are those who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as the Scriptures says.

    • aka glory

      DAVID, ARE YOU READING THE KJV BIBLE OR THE JEHOVAH WITNESS WATCHTOWER FOR THE WORD OF GOD. HERE IS SALVATION FROM SIN TAUGHT BY THE MOUTH OF JESUS CHRIST FROM THE KJV BIBLE. WHY WOULD ANYONE LISTEN TO YOU, YOU ARE NOT GOD. WE ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO HIS WORD, THEN WE OBEYED IT AND GOT SAVED, FILLED WITH THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST AND WASHED OUR SINS AWAY IN THAT WATERY GRAVE:
      Rom_6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      Col_2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

      WHAT DO THE WORDS “BURIED IN BAPTISM” do not compute????? We die to self pride, buried in the water in Jesus Name, and raised with the resurrecting POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST with the sign of speaking in unknown tongues. I did not get this gift of the Holy ghost at Hallmark card gift store.

      Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

      Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
      Luk_1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
      Luk_3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
      Luk_24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
      THIS IS THE MODEL GIVEN TO THE CHURCH BY PETER FOR SALVATION FROM SINS ….BAPTIZE IN WATER OR YOU WILL BE DAMNED:
      Act_2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

      Mat_26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
      Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
      Luk_3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
      Luk_24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
      Act_2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Act_10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
      Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
      Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

      I DID NOT WRITE THESE SCRIPTURES, THE LORD GAVE THEM TO MEN TO WRITE. HE CANNOT CHANGE, LIE OR DIE, HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY AND FOREVER. I really wonder if some of the people on this site can read English. REally i am wondering, they keep asking and giving out statements that are NOT IN THE WORD OF GOD.
      LIKE THE ” GOD IS THREE PERSONS” IS TOTAL BUNK, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE. It says in the bible you WASH AWAY YOUR SINS IN WATER…over and over and over. Calling names, calling us snakes and water dogs, shows you cannot use the WORD OF GOD IN CONTEXT. You have sunken so low, that some of you need to call us names ….my it shows you have not become SAVED CHRISTIANS YET. Truth cannot be debated or changed. It can only be RECEIVED. You either receive or reject the TRUTH. He was patient with us, as we all were in the same state of mind way before we were saved. WE need to be patient with you as JIMMY and others find the TRUTH AND STOP REJECTING IT AND JUST DO IT: ACTS 2:1-47…God Bless your DIVINE APPOINTMENT IS COMING….see sunday http://www.cfcky.com it will help you understand better.

    • aka glory

      I repeat in case those who do not believe the WORD OF GOD:

      JESUS SAID:
      Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

      PETER SAID:
      Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

      PAUL SAID:
      Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

      PAUL SAID AGAIN:
      Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
      Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
      Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
      Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
      Heb 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
      Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

      YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT ‘CIRCUMCISION OF THE HEART IS’

  • Rapture Rooster

    David, Kaus, if you weren’t so full of anger and judgment, you’d notice that YOU and I are on the same page. I agree with what you said, “There is no remission of sins from water Baptism. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse from sin. Then go and read 1 Corinthians 12,13,14. The gift of tongues was not given to everyone, and is not a baptism of the Holy Spirit. Then read Galatians 3 where it states that faith alone in Jesus Christ brings one into the Body of Christ. That can only be done through the baptism of the Holy Spirit. All who have not this faith have not the Holy Spirit and are none of Christ’s.”

    Your typing is fine, but your reading comprehension seriously lacks.

    You said, “In addition Scripture itself tells us to judge with righteous judgment. To try the spirits to see if they are of God. To reject a heretic after the first, or second admonition. To teach no other doctrine. All of this takes spiritual discernment, and rightly dividing God’s Word, and judging according to the Word of God.”

    You, are NOT judging with righteous judgment. You just like to pass judgment, and you don’t like it when the ball comes rolling back into our court.

    You said, “And by the way why in your hypocritical wrong judgment of me haven’t you judged aka glory the same way for her judgement of me ??? You seemed to have over looked that you blind leader of the blind.”

    I’m reserving my judgment of aka glory for the time being, until I hear her response to the post below:

    TorchbearerforJesus: “aka Glory, do you mean to say that the shed blood does NOT provide forgiveness of sins? I think some people are getting that out of your post. Heb. 9: 22 tells us, “…and without the shedding of blood is no remission.” The remission of sins.

    I would also like to hear your “take” on Gen. 1: 26. Who is the “us” and “our” here? You don’t believe in the Trinity, so are there three Gods? Just curious to hear your theology on these points.”

    Instead of jumping down her throat with a cloak of “better than thou”, I’m going to consider what she has to say and go from there. Don’t think that you’re so special that you get all the attention in this matter. If you’re any indication of the spiritual temperature/climate of your church, I wouldn’t go there for all the tea in China.

    Once again, you’ve shown your fangs, and the venom drips off. You’re quite the witness to seekers on this site!

    • David Kaus

      Rambling Rooster. You’re still cackling like a rooster with the venom of a snake.

      You’re good at trying to put words in people’s mouth’s and little else.

      Take every hypocritical thing you’ve tried to throw at me with this well seasoned advise………………MIRROR PLEASE !!!

      I leave you to your opinions.

      • aka glory

        I can’t wait until you receive the Gift of the HOLY GHOST and have healed heart and can finally testify of GOOD THINGS AND MIRACLES …. ooohhh I can’t wait. My sister had to pray for me for seven years, ….to be delivered from the world. The one that had the miracle healing from a God after she was baptized and had her sins washed away in JESUS NAME at a church similar to mine in 1980. Someday you too will be desperate enough to seek HIM. The ink on the page will come to life….when you ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOUR.

        Post your testimonies of healing, miracles, deliverances, ….tell us of the goodness of God, what Good reports do you have David, where is your church? Where do you go the place that is ALIVE WITH THE POWER OF GOD AND MIRACLES. Tell us…..

    • Aka glory

      Everyone please watch Sunday, AM & PM services on live video till Wed.
      At http://www.cfcky.com. Pastor Tommy Bates. Jan. 17, new video posted.
      Watch both services in full.

      And yes, another person walked down to altar of repentance, and on 10 minutes she had the “stammering lips” of Isaiah 28.
      and Book of Acts ch. 1&2.; 10:43-48; 19:1-6. She was “speaking in unknown tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. She obeyed and received the “Baptism of the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST”, PROMISED TO ALL by Jesus Christ in Acts ch. 1&2.
      10 min. It is for ALL. SEE ACTS CH. 2;8;10;11;16;19. Watch the two services in full on live video and see for yourself the Book of Acts church today for Jew and Gentile. That is the blood of Jesus, shed on the cross for all, flowing into her SPIRIT.
      Hear live ” speaking in unknown tongues” if you never had.
      This is the Living Church of the Word of God to all.
      Acts 2:47 and the LORD added to the CHURCH DAILY SUCH AS SHOULD BE SAVED.
      This is ALL BIBLE, ALL TRUTH.
      Man cannot make this up in the natural.

      So someone on this site will be eating crow, once he sees the truth.

      If you have ROKU streamer, go to Livestream icon. Scroll down to Accounts. Type in “cfc” . Tap church pic, tap Tommy Bates, tap videos. Two are church services, 3rd is mission statement. Now you can watch LIVE BOOK ACTS CHURCH kn big screen.

      If you come back later to Live stream streamer, you have to delete “cfc” and redo search. Erase account and start over. Glich in live stream streamer.

    • aka glory

      Rapture rooster: i will post Trinity fallacies on Tuesday,
      “aka Glory, do you mean to say that the shed blood does NOT provide forgiveness of sins? I think some people are getting that out of your post. Heb. 9: 22 tells us, “…and without the shedding of blood is no remission.” The remission of sins.

      The BLOOD DOES PROVIDE THE FORGIVENESS. He is the forgiveness of sins for us. NONE of us deserved it. The death and resurrection had to fulfill the OLD COVENANT OF BONDAGE TO SIN AND THE LAW under Hagar, Ishmael, the wildman, the child of the BONDWOMAN, Slave to sin. Read Genesis chap. 11-17. Jesus is of the PROMISED SON, the law of liberty, his line to the lion of JUDAH to King David, to Jesus. the Holy Ghost became the BLOOD OF CHRIST, enclosed in the flesh of Mary. Therefore he was both the SON OF GOD AND THE SON OF MAN (Mary). His blood was the Holy Ghost and since the Holy Ghost cannot die, and the LORD, the testator of the second and LAST covenant, become the last lamb to be sacrificed for sins. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. So He had to have flesh that would be crucified and killed and the blood was shed for remission of all of our sins.
      Now just as MOSES was commanded to put the BLOOD OF THE LAMB over the door, cover the door from the angel of death and his NAME has power over death hell and the grave. We are buried and covered in HIS NAME, which is POWER and SEALED in his name. we are do doing the three steps (not the 12 stations of the cross) we are to do the the three steps that PETER and PAUL commanded for us to do to RECEIVE REDEMPTION FROM SIN. He did the work, we just have to RECEIVE HIS FINISHED WORKS OF THE CROSS. We are not ‘WORKING’ we are ‘RECEIVING AND REDEEMING’. Like going into the store and redeeming the work that was made already for you. He gave us A ‘GIFT CARD’ that needs to be ‘REDEEMED’ or it doesn’t work. Example: you can walk around with a $400 GIFT CARD in your wallet for days, months, years. It has a valued GIFT PAID IN FULL in that plastic card. It really is nothing but a plastic card, you cannot really see the cash paid for the card, it is just printed in INK $400 GIFT CARD. So until you finally REDEEM IT, IT IS OF NO VALUE, NO EFFECT until ONE DAY YOU GO INTO THE STORE (CHURCH) AND DECIDE TO USE IT AND CASH IT IN FOR SOMETHING YOU WANT. You put yourself on the counter, (the ALTAR) and CASH IN THE GIFT CARD and REDEEM IT back from the store. YOU have used the VALUE OF THE GIFT. Same thing with the HOLY GHOST. He has given that GIFT TO ALL TO HAVE, but you have to RECEIVE IT AND REDEEM IT AND CASH IT IN AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS. IT is a fully loaded GIFT WITH ALL SORTS OF BENEFITS AND ADDITIONAL GIFTS ATTACHED when you finally belong to HIM and get engaged to HIM and take HIS NAME and HE IS YOUR LORD. that is when you will speak in unknown tongues….it is the sign that you finally said HE IS MINE FOREVER. JESUS IS MINE. You put HIM ON. You TAKE HIM IN. You are now betrothed. Read the book of Esther, is a good analogy to the washing, the preparation that the Jewish brides went through, the MIKVEH, to be ready for her KING. It is an analogy to the the ENDTIME BRIDE OF CHRIST getting ready for her king.
      We need the BLOOD OF THE HOLY GHOST. We are made up of three parts, the body (flesh), the soul, and the spirit. So we die to self and pride, changing and taking off the OLD MAN THINKING, changing our mind and dying to our self. Then we bury our flesh, the body in the watery grave, and washing away of our sins into the water, as commanded by PETER AND PAUL in Acts. That takes care of the FLESH getting changed. You cannot put NEW WINE INTO OLD BOTTLES. Now step 3, we are resurrected from that watery grave and are FILLED WITH THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. That is HIS HOLY GHOST BLOOD flowing thru our veins. You will know when your spirit is finally cleaned up when you receive HIS BLOOD applied to your life and spirit because then you will speak in unknown tongues in 10 min. or less, yes David, it can be that quick if you are pretty cleaned up.

      1- repent, soul, the mind, the will, emotions
      2- death and buried, the flesh, wash away sins in water buried
      3- resurrection POWER OF THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST and baptism of HOLY GHOST with sign of speaking in unknown tongues

      as JESUS SAID WHEN YOU GO FROM JUST BEING A BELIEVER TO BEING SAVED you will signs that follow you:
      Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
      Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

      and PAUL SAID…SINCE YOU HAVE BELIEVED HAVE YOU RECEIVED THE ‘GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST’…TO THE GENTILES…

      Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
      Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
      Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
      Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
      Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
      Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
      Let me know if that is explained enough. the POWER IS IN THE BLOOD OF THE HOLY GHOST and IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

      • Rapture Rooster

        aka glory, you have explained it well enough. Please don’t be offended, but I believe you’re a little confused regarding the blood. It is the blood of Jesus Christ which forgives and cleanses us from sin. I get that, and we agree on that. However, you said,

        “the POWER IS IN THE BLOOD OF THE HOLY GHOST and IN THE NAME OF JESUS.” I don’t remember the Holy Ghost hanging from a cross and spilling His blood. The power is in the blood of the Lamb. That’s where the theological issue rears its ugly head. One cannot cast aside the Trinity and expect statements like that to hold water.

        The Trinity was present at creation (Gen. 1: 26) and at the baptism of our Lord, Mt. 3: 16, 17; Mk. 1: 9-11; Lu. 3: 21, 22. 1. Christ was there (obviously) 2. The Father’s voice was heard from Heaven 3. The H.G. revealed His presence in the form of a dove.

        It would be most unscriptural to teach that there are three distinct Gods; it would also be unscriptural to teach that there is only one Person in the Godhead. The doctrine of the Trinity is most important and absolutely necessary in order to understand the Bible, and God’s great plan and work of salvation.

        We need to realize more and more that the Holy Spirit is the Executor of the purposes of the Godhead. Whatever God may purpose to do, He completes it through the Spirit’s agency.

        We need to keep in mind that the Holy Ghost is not a mere influence but a real Person equal to the Father and the Son. It is written in Heb. 9:14 that Christ on the Cross offered Himself without spot to God the Father through the eternal Spirit.” Once again, we have evidence for the Trinity.

        You have already explained where you believe the Trinity concept comes from, but may I suggest that their various concepts were hijacked from the teachings of the O.T. and later on, the Church? The further they got away from the truth of it, the more insidious their trying to implement it became.

        You continuously go on that people can receive the Holy Ghost “in ten minutes”, and that is a sign of their salvation. What do you do with the passage where Paul says, “do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?” Of course the answer is no. NOT all speak with tongues. Are these dear folk not saved?

        You said, “You will know when your spirit is finally cleaned up when you receive HIS BLOOD applied to your life and spirit because then you will speak in unknown tongues…”

        My life IS my “spirit”, and when I invited Christ into my life, according to John 1: 12, I was immediately received by Christ and became a part of His body. According to John 3: 5-7, I didn’t need to be baptized in the Holy Spirit to become a born again child of God, or Christ would’ve made that a prominent point at that time.

        I’m just exploring; not condemning or looking to get into a shouting match, etc.. I put my faith and trust in the blood of Christ. If He wants me to have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, I’m open. Until then, I’m possessed with the Holy Spirit Who dwells within me, I Cor. 3: 16; 6: 19, 20.

        I Cor. 6: 17 states, “But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.” That does it for me! And that only comes through faith in Christ and the atoning work of His blood on the cruel cross of Calvary.

  • susan morrow

    Born again.. Living stones make up the church. They are scattered all over the world and not in one organisation or building

    • aka glory

      I am saying the ROCK IS GROWING BIGGER AND BIGGER IN JESUS CHRIST…we are coming together in the CHURCH THAT IS THE BIBLE, not the universal church of satan with a bunch of theologies all being practised not in the word of God. The the long out-stretched toes mixed with iron and clay, holding up the Beast of that giant in Daniel, will fall over flat on his face and break into a bunch of pieces. What is left? THE CHURCH OF THE BOOK OF ACTS….the sure corner stone built on the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, the only NAME BY WHICH WE MAY BE SAVED, the BLOOD OF CHRIST, which is the HOLY GHOST and in HIS NAME Of POWER.

      • Skywatcher

        aka glory, may I say, with the love of Jesus, that some of your statements are getting theologically sloppy. You said, “I am saying the ROCK IS GROWING BIGGER AND BIGGER IN JESUS CHRIST…”

        My Bible says that Christ IS the Rock, not the Church! How can the “rock” grow “BIGGER AND BIGGER IN JESUS CHRIST”? When does a rock or anything else grow bigger in itself?

        You also said, “we are coming together in the CHURCH THAT IS THE BIBLE”.

        I’m sure, you meant to say, “we are coming together in the CHURCH that is (in) THE BIBLE”. Am I correct? We both know that the Church cannot be the “Bible”. Please take a little more time to proofread before making your post. I know, we speed typists can say a lot in a short time, but we must make sure we are saying what we really mean to say. Otherwise, it opens up doors for unnecessary attack from others.

        Your heart is in the right place, but the skeleton is getting a little shaky here and there. You’ve got a nest full of beautiful theological eggs, but they’re not all fertile. You’re fudging the Word, and I’m sure from your earlier postings, that is NOT your intent. I have no doubt, that if push comes to shove, you would die for Christ, and that’s very admirable. Your heart burns with a passion and a boldness to witness for Christ, and that’s to be envied. However, in the meantime, we must ensure that our zeal to speak up for Him is not getting in the way of theological accuracy. Again, I don’t say that to be unkind.

        I believe the problem here is that you’re placing too much emphasis on the NAME of Jesus, and NOT enough on the PERSON of Christ. Yes, there is power in His name; demons have to flee, the blind see, etc. However, we must make sure the name doesn’t trump good sound theology. It’s the PERSON behind the name that makes the difference!

        You said, “the sure corner stone built on the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST”. Jesus IS the cornerstone, NOT His name! The “name” is NOTHING without the person. See the difference? This is where controversy enters in.

        You said, “…the only NAME BY WHICH WE MAY BE SAVED”. This is true, as His teachings are the only ones that will lead us to salvation, through Him, and not by speaking with tongues. We learn in Mt.1: 21, “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.”

        “He shall save his people from their sins”, not His name! Everybody has to have a name, but the name doesn’t define who they are; their life and all that it entails defines who they are, and their significance to others. Focus on the Savior the name represents.

        There are many men running around in Mexico, Brazil, etc. wearing the name tag, “Jesus”, but do they have the power of the PERSON of Christ? No! They cannot forgive sins, etc. It’s merely a name in that case.

        My Jewish friends tell me that Peter’s passage referring to baptism in “Jesus’ name” means, “according to the teachings of the man, Jesus Christ”. You’re professing to be a follower of Christ and not John, etc. When we are baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit”, as He commanded, we are publicly stating that we believe His teachings to be true; we have accepted Him as personal Savior and Lord, and that we have publicly died to self (burial in water) and are being resurrected in newness of life and power in Jesus Christ. This is where you, I, and others will have to agree to disagree.

        So, if somebody came up to me and asked me if I had been baptized in Jesus’ name, they would be asking me in the Jewish manner, “Have you been baptized according to His doctrine?”

        As I said in a previous post, Christ would not tell us to be baptized in the formula of the Trinity if that were a lie or didn’t really exist, or that it was not what He meant for us to do. He doesn’t make mistakes. Neither, would He ever permit Peter’s words to supersede His own, nor would Peter ever be so arrogant as to do that! And, we know that God does not contradict Himself, and as you’ve so eagerly expressed time and time again…God does not lie, nor does He change.

        Just as John performed baptisms and taught his doctrine, it was called “John’s baptism”, referring to his doctrine/teaching. The same applies here, in reference to Jesus’ name. It means according to HIS teachings, thereby, drawing a distinction between His teachings and all others. Salvation could only be possible through His teachings, which He backed up with His atoning work on the cross of Calvary. His blood, and His blood ALONE provides atonement and justification of our sins. There is no need for anything else to be added, i.e. speaking with tongues, healing, prophesy, etc. When Christ declared from the cross, “It is finished”, that is exactly what He meant. The plan of salvation was completed through His work on the cross. Any other components that may be added for salvation after the fact, are unnecessary and vain works.

        I believe we need to be careful not to focus so much on the works/results and more on the Person of Jesus.

        We have no evidence in Scripture that the Holy Ghost is the blood of Christ, as every drop of it was spilled onto and into the ground. If there is any, would you please share it with me (us)? Remember…I’m in your camp to some extent! As all will see here, I do not agree with all the “Jesus Only” teaching. We must “rightly divide the word of truth.”

        I hope this has been helpful.

        • aka glory

          SKYWATCHER: do you have the programs: http://www.e-sword.net? so you have the http://www.bluebible.org site?
          Use those two sources for bible study. YOu are missing the connection. If you have ever cast out demons, no. 1 you have to have completed Acts 2:38 or Acts 19:1-20. Then you will understand the POWER IS IN THE NAME, and in verse 2:47 he built his CHURCH ON HIS NAME. The NAME IS the father, son and Holy ghost.

          THE ‘ROCK’ THE ‘CHURCH’ JESUS CHRIST CREATED IS GETTING LARGER AND GROWING IN SIZE BEFORE THE RAPTURE…SEE
          Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
          Deu 32:1 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
          Deu 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
          Deu 32:3 Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
          Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
          1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
          Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
          Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
          Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
          Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
          Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
          Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
          Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
          Luk 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
          Luk 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

          NOW GO DOWN TO JERUSALEM WHERE THE FIRST CHURCH WAS STARTED BY PETER….FOR REMISSION FROM SINS AFTER THE CROSS

          Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
          Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
          Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
          Joh_5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
          Joh_14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
          Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy

          THE ‘ROCK ‘ IS CHRIST, THE ‘NAME OF THE ROCK’ IS JESUS CHRIST, DEUT. 32:1-4
          THE ‘NAME’ of the FATHER IS JESUS CHRIST, the ‘NAME’ of the Son is JESUS CHRIST, the ‘NAME’ of the HOLY GHOST IS JESUS CHRIST. The Holy Ghost is the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.

          Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
          Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

          HE SAID GO BUILD MY CHURCH UPON MY NAME….THE ‘ROCK’ IS HIS NAME…HE TOLD PETER TO BUILD HIS CHURCH
          HE TOLD PETER TO BAPTIZE IN THE ‘NAME’ OF THE FATHER SON AN HOLY GHOST
          JESUS SAID I AM SENDING THE HOLY GHOST IN MY NAME

          so when they all got to Jerusalem, for remission of sins to begin, for the CHURCH to begin and be built ON THE ROCK, JESUS CHRIST. The name with all power and authority over devils.

          WHAT NAME DID PETER AND PAUL USE TO BAPTIZE IN? WHAT NAME DID THEY CALL ON TO BE SAVED?
          ALL WAS DONE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. NO other name or names were used in the water baptism. You cannot call upon any other name to get the baptism of the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST.

          HE IS THE “I AM” the first and the LAST.

          He was the Father in the OT., as the Word, He was the and still is the POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST and the WORD BECAME FLESH, the HOLY GHOST was wrapped in flesh. but HIS BLOOD WAS THE HOLY GHOST. Mary was pregnant with the HOLY GHOST. NOT another person in an lie manmade Hindu Trinity garbage made up by the Roman Catholics

          Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

          WHEN YOU STOP LISTENING TO THE TRINITY LIE, and realize you were NOT BAPTIZED WITH A PERSON, when you were filled with the HOLY GHOST and spoke in unknown tongues. YOU WERE FILLED WITH THE POWER OF GOD HIMSELF and HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST.
          Jas_2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

          When the bible speaks of the RIGHT HAND, it is always speaking about POWER, Ex. 15 and use e-sword to find the other scriptures. Use e-sword to look up all the scriptures for “ROCK”, “STONE” look for corner stone. LOOK UP “NAME” in the whole bible. That is when your bible study will turn the light on. you will get fathoms of info and understanding by studying the bible word for word. See the links between the old and the new.

          There are only two COVENANTS FOR SALVATION. The OT way and the NT way. the NT way began after the Cross and JESUS SAID I AM COMING BACK IN MY NAME.

          So when you cast out demons of heroin, crack meth addicts, and you stand there finished in the ACTS 19!-20 or they will laugh at you. The demons have to obey the HOLY GHOST BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR VEINS and they recognize the POWER OF HIS NAME, GIVEN TO ME, AND THEY MUST FLEE WHEN I SAY GO. They are not allowed to talk to me, touch me and I don’t allow them to manifest themselves in front of me. I am build upon the ROCK, THE CHURCH, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST, THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH. WE ARE MEMBERS OF HIS BODY, THE BODY OF CHRIST, CONNECTED BY HIS SPIRIT, THE HOLY GHOST IF YOU OBEYED ACTS 2:38/ 19:1-6. HE IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH, WE ARE THE BODY OF THE CHURCH. HE IS THE BRAINS, THE WORD, THE ROCK WE BUILD UPON. WE are called Christians if you we obeyed the remission of sin plan laid out for us by him in the book of Acts. He established and laid the FIRST CORNERSTONE FOR HIS CHURCH IN ACTS 2:38, THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST WAS TO BE USED. The Roman Catholics REMOVED IT ALL.

          Col 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
          Col 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
          Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
          Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
          Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

          There are NOT THREE PERSONS, OR MEN RUNNING HIS CHURCH, HE IS THE MANIFESTED GLORY OF GOD, THE WORD MADE FLESH, DIED AND ROSE AGAIN AND CAME BACK AS THE HOLY GHOST TO REMOVE OUR SINS. That is why we are to call upon HIS NAME and HIS SPIRIT to fulfill the commandments of God given to us for Salvation. NO TRINITY. THAT CREATES CONFUSION
          He is the mighty God, the word of God, the power of God, the spirit of God and HE IS ONE, not three persons nor three Gods. 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

          THE ROMAN CATHOLIC PAGAN POPE PERVERTED THE WORD OF GOD AND MADE THAT UP: SEE THIS

          Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
          Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
          Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
          Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
          Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
          Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
          Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
          Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
          Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
          Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
          Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
          Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
          Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
          Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
          Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
          Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
          Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

          USE E-SWORD.NET AND http://WWW.BLUEBIBLE.ORG FOR LOOKING UP WORD BY WORD AND IT WILL BRING TONS OF REVELATION

          • Skywatcher

            So, aka glory, seeing you are so against the Trinity, how do you explain Gen. 1: 26, “Let US make man in OUR image and likeness.” Who is talking here, and who are the plural pronouns referring to?

  • Aljosha

    To me it seem’s very seeable that that one religion, and Babylon queen is poor money and it’s makes everyone knee before it/her. On the other side, papa promotes unity of Love and God, and people don’t follow it.

    • Skywatcher

      Aljosha, papa promotes unity, without God. God will never go against His Word, the Holy Bible. God says there is only one God, and He’s a very jealous God at that.

      He, Himself says, “I am God; beside me, there is none other”.
      In 2 Chron. 2: 5, we read, “…for great is our God above all gods.”
      Psalm 86: 10 declares, “For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God ALONE”. (Emphasis added).
      In Isaiah 44: 6, God says, “…I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” V. 8, “…Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I KNOW NOT ANY.” (emphasis added)

      That last verse is quite a powerful statement, coming from an omniscient (all-knowing) God, don’t you think?

      Seeing that there is no other God, does it seem right for you, that He should share the stage with Buddha? Mohammad? Krishna? Allah? Oprah? Mickey Mouse? No, I didn’t think so. How could Jesus Christ feel comfortable standing there, knowing He was promoting a lie by doing so?!

      When one stops to think and to ponder on what is being fed to them by their religious leaders and presented to them in the media, he can usually get two or more ideas as to what is really going on. Always compare to Scripture! If it doesn’t align with God’s Word, then it isn’t God’s Word; it’s man’s word!

      Your “papa” is so loving, that he recently put 7 evangelical Christians in prison for refusing to convert to paganism (Roman Catholicism). Does that seem like something your God of the Holy Bible would do? Imprison somebody for standing firm in their faith and loyalty to Him?

      Be careful; this demon is NOT whom you think he is! He’s no more God’s representative than a pork chop is the representative to a Muslim! Read your Bible and find out who the REAL God is, the one you will have to stand before one day and give account of your life to…That time is closer than you think, and you just might want to have your feet on the RIGHT path, and your eyes upon the REAL Savior: Jesus Christ of Nazareth. As long as you’re following the pope, you’re on the wrong path, my friend.

      Do you really want to know how loving and unifying your “papa” really is? Here’s a test, and you can pass it!

      Go to your priest, and ask him to show you in the Holy Bible, where it says you are to call HIM “Father”. Ask him to show you where it says to pray to Mary. Ask him to show you where it says priests are not allowed to marry. After you have done that, please come back on this site, and let us know what you found out. I’d be really interested to know the scripture passages that promote these ideas.

      God bless you, as you seek Him for yourself. He has promised in His Word, “Draw nigh to God, and He WILL draw nigh to you.” James 4: 8

      • Fretfire

        Hey Skywatcher,

        God bless you guys, you have a great forum here with a lot of very productive and edifying discussion! I just wanted to say on this subject that unfortunately the Roman Catholic apologists (or the priest) will probably have an answer from the Bible for each one of the questions you proposed for Aljosha to ask of a priest. The RCC has had centuries and armies of theologians to formulate and explain away all the contradictions between their “infallible” teachings and the Word of God. But I’ve found, as I’m sure you also have, that it can be done effectively if you’re very precise. For instance, the apologist will probably bring up at least 2 scriptures to answer your 1st question about praying to Mary – John, chapter 2, in the wedding feast at Cana…they’ll say that Mary interceded with Jesus and He did what she wanted, therefore we should do the same and ask her. I think the best reply to that is that Jesus taught us how to pray and it was the Lord’s Prayer, never in the NT does it say to address our prayer to Mary or anyone but God. Asking Mary in person while she was on earth is different from petitioning her through prayer, which should only be directed to God. The angel forbade John to prostrate himself before him, saying “Worship God, I am thy fellow servant” Surely this would apply also to Mary. If you want saints whom you believe to be in Heaven to pray for you, the only possible correct way would be to ask God to have them pray for you, as they may have been made “like” God, if they are with Him, but they are not God and are not omniscient to hear the prayers of millions all over the earth at the same time! The other scripture the priest is likely to bring up is Luke 1:26-45. The best answer I know for that is that just because the angel’s salutation was Hail Mary, that doesn’t mean we’re supposed to pray that way. Again, Jesus taught us that the way to pray was “Our Father…”, and nowhere in the NT are we told to pray to Mary. If Mary was supposed to be so central to our faith, there would be exhortations all over the NT, telling us to be devoted to her. But there is nothing, from Jesus or from any of the writers of Acts, the letters to the churches, Hebrews or Revelation. Mary was the RECIPIENT of grace, not the dispenser of it. We have Jesus living within us when we receive Him, we can directly and boldly approach the Throne of Grace and have the One True Mediator as our Savior and living in us, closer than our own hands and feet. Therefore, we have no need of a “mediatrix”! The other points that come to mind are these: are we to suppose that Mary is more merciful than God? If she is not, then why do Catholics think their petitions will be heard if Mary brings them to Jesus, but not necessarily if they go directly to Him? Catholics tell me I’m dishonoring Mary when I object to devotion to her and “hyperdulia” – I tell them that it is actually THEY who are dishonoring her, by giving her titles that belonged to the goddess: Queen of Heaven, May Queen, Star of the Sea. Also that the humble Mary, servant of the Lord would have objected too, to all this focus being on HER – if these Marian apparitions were truly Mary, they would never tell people to build a church and consecrate it to HER, or to “consecrate _ _ _ _ (fill in the nation, or the world) to MY immaculate heart”, etc, etc – it would ONLY be all about Jesus if it really was God sending Mary, and her “prophecies” would never contradict the prophecies of scripture, as they do!

        They also dishonor the Lord by calling the (approximate) day of His resurrection “Easter” (in the west, at least – in the east they call it the Pasch), again the very NAME of the goddess! Ishtar, Ashteroth, Eostre, Ostara….tell Aljosha to ask the priest why they do THAT! He’ll probably play the “name game” at this point and say that it’s based on the name of the Anglo-Saxon goddess but has nothing to do with Ishtar, only sounding similar in English – best thing to do there is dismiss the nonsense and say “why would you call Jesus’ resurrection by the name of ANY goddess?” and also that there are many, many words that sound similar in many languages that have similar meanings, and Easter is related also to the fact that they faced east while praying to the goddess. The name Esther also comes from it, so save those evasive tactics for someone who’ll fall for them, “father”.

        Which brings me to the issue of calling priests “father” – as we know, Jesus said to call no man on earth your father. Catholics say that He didn’t mean priests, because then you couldn’t call your dad father – I trust that all here will understand how silly this is – obviously he meant to call no man your SPIRITUAL father, which is precisely what they do! The priest may bring up Paul saying in 1 Corinthians that he was their father in the faith – but he never said they should CALL him father, he was saying that he was instrumental in converting them to Christ, therefore he “begat” them in the faith. Even the Apostles were called “brother” in the early church, all were “brother” & “sister”. Every time I hear the Pope being called “Holy Father” by Catholics, which is CONSTANTLY, the hairs on the back on my neck stand up! Jesus said to the rich man: “why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone”. Of course it’s ok to call Him good, because He’s God, but He’s saying pretty clearly here that you should call no one else good, much less “Holy”. And we all know what He said about calling people Father, so “Holy Father” is double blasphemy! Jesus said: “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.” As far as I’m concerned, the priests as “alter christus” and the Popes as “Vicars of Christ” ARE some of the false Christs and prophets the Lord was talking about – not the only ones, but some of them. Do not their very titles claim they stand in place of Christ? Another question for the priest: Why is the Pope called by the title of the Roman Emperor, Pontifex Maximus?

        As to the celibacy question, the priest will likely quote Matt 19:12 where Jesus talked about Eunuchs, and also 1 Cor 7:7 – the answer to that one is: the rest of the chapter! Both Jesus and Paul said that celibacy is for those who can handle it; it’s not to be mandatory, but optional as it causes sin for many to forbid marriage, and marriage & sex within it are holy & good. That’s contrasted to 1 Tim chapter 4, where those who FORBID to marry (and to abstain from meats, which the RCC also does, on Fridays & during “Lent”) are called “hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron” – not a good reference! Also, there is 1 Timothy 3:2 – the bishop is to be the husband of one wife.

        I hope these points are helpful, not only in this case but also whenever people are trying to deal with very deceptive and tricky Catholic apologists! God bless, Skywatcher & all!

        • Skywatcher

          Hey there, Brother Fretfire! Thank you, for that excellent thesis! 🙂 That’s a lot of typing, and extremely valuable information! Satan makes sure he has all the theological bases covered, but he cannot outrun God! I have used some of these points in the past online. The only RC priest I ever had any dealings with quickly agreed with all I had said, and that caught me totally off guard. Then I asked if he was born again.

          He said he was, that he had been to a men’s retreat “five years ago” and accepted Christ as his Savior, but that was to shut me up. A number of months later, I was asked to give the eulogy at this young man’s funeral! It was one of the hardest things I ever had to do because I wasn’t SURE where he was, not like I am today! That was quite a few years ago. He was hit head-on on his motorbike by a drunk driver; 44 yrs. old.

          This man was in a position over many hundreds of people, and God obviously saw that he was in the way of what He wanted to do. I’ll never know this side of Glory why he was removed from the picture.

          He left work for home, believing he’d be back to work the next day…not to be.

          I’m rambling, but I want to say that your comment is very much appreciated and I’ll save it for future reference! God bless you, as you serve Him with faithfulness and joy!

  • Aljosha

    Thank’s on kind answer, God bless You. I’ve seen You did’n pay attention on the real non religious power that rules the world, very different from that what papa say or do not say.

  • Listening2all

    1 Corinthians 15:1-58 Pope is forgetting to state that the last Adam (Jesus Christ) is the life giving spirit. The first Adam was a living soul. The Father God creates the natural or physical first to then fill with the Spirit, like making a container to be filled. Jesus is the source of that LIFE of the spirit not Adam, not Buddha, not Mohammed, etc. Jesus said He is the beginning and the end, sacrificial lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, Prince of Peace, Son of Man, Son of God, Immanuel, Lion of Judah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, brother, Saviour, King, the Truth, the Way and the Life, the Word made flesh etc over 200 names and He has overcome death and conquered the grave, He is alive and sitting at the right hand side of God the Father and He will return to judge the living and the dead, not Buddha, not Allah, not Mohammed, not Adam, not Abraham, etc. Since all mankind comes from the first Adam, he is therefore a living soul, but for the man who receives Jesus, he receives the life-giving spirit. Mankind must be born again of the Spirit and there is no other Way to receive it other than the name above all names, Jesus Christ, begotten son of God. Most people only have the first Adam. I say go to the source of LIFE, the last Adam who is Jesus Christ and see for yourself that this is true for all other gods, methods, beliefs and rituals are false. Life is in a person named Jesus not a religion.

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    http://lightshipministries.org/2016/01/16/fetid-frankie-spits-on-jesus-and-his-cross/

  • Walter Lekamge

    Great Pope. Height of arrogance of Christians is to condemn other religions just because non-Christians do not succumb to blind faith. What makes them claim they are right merely based on a book written by themselves to promote their own cause?

    • aka glory

      If you open the Douay Rheims version and the KING James Version of the NEW TESTAMENT for salvation from sin, they match word for word. In Facts Acts 10:43-48 says it better than KJV. Peter says to get baptised under the water in the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. The KJV left off JESUS CHRIST.

      The Roman Catholic Popes REMOVED REPENTANCE to jESUS, replaced him with men. REMOVED WATER BAPTISM under the water, in the grave to be buried like him, REMOVED THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST in water baptism, REMOVED THE HOLY GHOST and replaced him with a bread and wine, in a ceremony to Shiva. The REMOVED JESUS CHRIST and replaced him with a bunch of beads to his MOTHER MARY who never died on the cross or shed her blood for your sins. They have perverted the CHURCH to where is is NOTHING like it was written in your DRV, which was written 325AD. They copied from the JEWISH SCRIPTURES by the scribes. JESUS MARY JOSEPH ALL DISCIPLES, PETER, PAUL were all JEWISH…..you have to be adopted into the JEWISH CHURCH JESUS STARTED IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, then follow from there to book of Revelations. Isaiah 28…also

  • After reading the articles here and reading all the replies I am convinced that the Bible is true and that all the prophecies, as clearly explained on the jw org website, are 100% truth.

  • Aka glory

    Urgent: See this site explains Bernie Sanders Plan to change USA into ONE WORLD GOVT.
    Need your thoughts on this Geoffrey. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bernie-sanderss-political-revolution-would-change-the-nation/2016/01/18/4c1c13fa-bde4-11e5-9443-7074c3645405_story.html
    If you read all, it sounds good on surface.
    But,
    I watched PBS specials on Cuba behind the scenes last week.
    This is exactly what Castro put into effect years ago. The same equality for all, it matched these views.
    Cuba is so equally poor they stand in line for hours to get loaf bread, a ride on free bus, no plumbing, housing in shambles. Doctors make $29 a month, but everyone gets free gov paid healthcare, school, college housing. You can only sell what the gov tells you to sell, down to a hamburger. Free housing, but the living conditions are like COMMUNISM in Russia from 60’s. The middle class and lower class citizens were allowed to take over rich mansions.
    It turns into a Rich govt. and the poor publicans. No class in-between. You are a gov. Fed or a poor other. Look at specials on Cuba behind the tourists attractions. That is Bernie Sanders future for America.

    This Bernie Sanders plan is PURE COMMUNISM. COMMUNISM. Study Cuba, it matches.

  • David Kaus

    Stay away from this church. http://www.cfcky.com. Pastor Tommy Bates.

    It is into the ecstatic “tongues” and “another spirit” that accompanies this delusion that Paul warned the church about. It also has other false beliefs as stated by a member of it, like water baptism washes away one’s sins, and that it only takes “10” minutes to get what they call the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given to all who repent, and believe on the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ for their sins. The gift of tongues when it was given as a gift to the early church has ceased, but even back then it was a known language. It was given as a gift and it was NOT the indwelling of the Holy Spirit given to all who believe on the LORD Jesus Christ, but was a sign to the unbelieving Jew.

    So we are now let to believe that through 10 minutes of your own effort you can be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. How’s that for a works salvation, and a cheap one at that ???

    The leaven in this heretical, delusional church will lead to more leaven.

    • aka glory

      SORRY YOU ARE WRONG. TONGUES as the evidence of the Gift of the HOLY GHOST is not the same GIFT OF TONGUES in Corinthians. You won’t understand because you have never RECEIVED THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST YET.

      The tongues and prophecy and knowledge will not cease until the PERFECT COMES. Who is the PERFECT JESUS CHRIST, when HE returns for HIS CHURCHES STARTED IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, then the RAPTURE WILL OCCUR and the BELIEVING SAVED CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOWED AND OBEYED THE WORD OF GOD, WILL BE GONE. Then there will be NO MORE HOLY GHOST, NO MORE SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN TONGUES, NO MORE PROPHECY AND NO MORE INCREASE IN KNOWLEDGE, NO MORE CHURCH.

      Funny, you think it is not here today, I just stood next to another person, on sunday Jan. 17 at about 12:30pm, and she repented of her sins, had stammering lips, as described and prophesied in Isaiah 28; book of Joel, HOsea, etc. and she spoke in unknown tongues for over one hour, NO ENGLISH and she was weeping with tears of JOY and finally knew what the 120 received in the UPPER ROOM. It is so awesome to be there when someone prays through to the WONDERFUL BAPTISM OF THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. I saw it, heard it and was there to experience the PRESENCE OF THE LIVING GOD. Go to: http://www.cfcky.com and watch Sunday nite, where others got it on INTERNET. YOu will see DAvid and stop being such a JEHOVAH WITNESS who does not believe and has not read their bible either. IT is right there in ACTS 2:1-5. I read that one too. YOU will see you are wrong….THIS IS THE CHURCH JESUS STARTED …..
      Acts 2:47 and the LORD ADDED TO THE CHURCH DAILY SUCH AS SHOULD BE SAVED. You will die someday ignorant or saved, but the WORD OF GOD DOES NOT DIE, LIE OR CHANGE….HE DOES NOT CHANGE AND NEITHER DOES HIS WORD. Tongues is for today and this is NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES. It is supernatural and you cannot explain something SUPERNATURAL WITH YOUR little natural mind. God Bless. MOst people it takes 10 min. or less…the one on the video was less than 10 min. at the end of PM service, but David you will probably take a little longer, you seem to have a lot more to unload from your chest and then he will fill you too….if you ask him. IT IS THE ‘GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST’ ….given to ALL BELIEVERS. Read the book of Acts some more, you will see it hopefully before the rapture or you will be LEFT BEHIND. It happened to me and others here on this site….we got it….you can too. …it is for you and all afar off….JESUS SAID SO…Acts 19:1-6….was for gentile believers….

    • aka glory

      To all of you who think that RECEIVING THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST and GETTING BURIED UNDER THE WATER IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST is YOUR WORK TO SALVATION, are totally clueless.

      YOu sound like the JEWS WHO cannot push the button on the elevator to go up a floor on the Sabbath in Jerusalem. they put tape over all the buttons so they don’t do any WORK ON THE SABBATH.

      Jesus healed on the sabbath and they accused him of WORKING and missed the miracle and healing and had a sweaty fit over the fact that JESUS ‘DID SOMETHING’ on the sabbath.

      For pete’s sake, PUN INTENDED….it is NOT OUR WORK, IT IS HIS PRECIOUS GIFT TO US, HE DID THE WORK AT CALVARY, HE SHED HIS BLOOD, HE DIED AND WAS BURIED AND ROSE AGAIN.

      so, we REPENT: die to our pride and self
      WE ARE BURIED IN A WATERY GRAVE, burying our sins under water, roll over into the water if you are afraid climbing steps will be considered a work. YOU DROVE TO CHURCH, IS THAT NOT A WORK? you opened your bible, is that not work? You walked inside and sat down and stood up and sat down, was that not a work? HIs Name covers you and gives you the NAME for you to become the bride of Christ, to join HIS CHURCh into the JESUS FAMILY of GOD.

      Then we are finally RESURRECTED WITH THE POWER OF GOD, baptized with the GIFT only if you RECEIVE IT. He will not force HIS GIFT on you, YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE IT….and when it happens you will be speaking in unknown tongues suddenly…

      DEATH, BURIAL, RESURRECTION
      REPENT, BURIED IN WATER IN JESUS NAME, FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST

      3 STEPS TO SALVATION FROM SIN

      Acts 2:47…and the LORD ADDED TO THE CHURCH DAILY SUCH AS SHOULD BE SAVED…
      ACTS 4;8;10;11;16;19;22 AGAIN AND AGAIN SAME MESSAGE

      Then Paul writes letters/sermons to church to explain further what happened to them IN ACTS.
      rom. 6; Galations chap. 1-4 Hebrews

      Just read it.. get it…..

    • aka glory

      David, you sound like the heretical one, not the CHURCH of the book of Acts, that we are of.

      Please don’t tell me you believe in Trinity also? From the Hindu Trimurti…do you? that is so heretical.

      God IS ONE. Waiting to hear of all your miracles and testimonies and drug deliverances and healings from suicide and depression and insomnia.

      Oh i forgot about the one miracle of a man in our church who had his eyeball gouged out by farm equipment and the LORD replaced him with a new eyeball over night. Yep another miracle overnite. We have a FED EX carrier from heaven at our church. and OVERNITE miracle working angel. On private duty here.

      Is there anything you need prayer for, healing from, I am also an intercessory prayer warrior and yes i do get to speaking in unknown tongues when i get deep into the spirit. Are you suffering from insomnia, depression, suicidal thoughts, drug issues, dopesic, voices in your head that won’t stop. I have an answer to prayer for you, if you have anything in particular, let Skywalker and our tongue talking group know and we will prayer for you. I was delivered from depression, suicide, anxiety, insomnia, and an ex husband. Yes it is late, but when i hit the pillow i am out for hours and i am retired without an alarm clock.

  • Paul

    Amen, David Kaus
    EVERY TIME tongues are spoken of in the book of Acts there are Jews present and it is a SIGN to believing Jews that gentiles could be saved outside of Judaism and the law. Jews require a sign. Once the new testament scriptures were completed there was no use by God for ‘sign gifts’ for “faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God” preserved for us in the KJV today. The Corinthian church had to be straightened out by Paul over this issue because they were just as messed up doctrinally and immature as the Charismatics are today.
    This type of church is under the influence of a spirit but it’s not the HOLY SPIRIT. It’s the spirit that is leading all religions into the one world antichrist church hosted and directed by the Vatican. As they say ‘all roads lead to Rome’.

    • David Kaus

      Hello Paul, what you said is exactly correct. The person that calls herself “aka glory” is trying to deceive people into getting another spirit one she got in “10” minutes which she believes she got saved by. How phony and ridiculous can anyone be ??? Truly the end time delusion to believe a lie has hit the apostate churches.

      In her recent response to “listening to all” she stated : “Since some of you are UNBELIEVERS in this, then this is the ‘SIGN’ FOR YOU, that I was baptized with the HOLY GHOST.”

      Did you catch that Paul she claimed that what she testified to was a sign to others. Jesus said an evil and adulterous generation seeketh a sign. Such is the confusion of “aka glory.”

      Another thing Jesus Christ said about the Comforter, the Holy Spirit. When He comes He will testify of me. The spirit “aka glory” has always tries to testify of what she calls the Holy Spirit in total contradiction of Scripture, and of what Jesus Christ said that the Holy Spirit would testify of.

      In addition her testimony is that over a 100 people spoke in “tongues” in one service. But what does Scripture say ? Let two or three speak in tongues and that by course, with intrepretation !!! Every thing out of her mouth clearly shows every one that she has another spirit that has totally deluded her.

      1 Corinthians 14:27-28King James Version (KJV)

      27 If any “man” speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

      28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

      Now check out closely what Scripture also says here. “If any man….” not a woman, speaks in an unknown tongue (language), etc.. Women were forbidden to speak in Church. This Scripture is another witness to the fact that women were not allowed to speak in Church. Most the the Charismatic ecstatic tongues babblers of today are women like “aka glory.”

      Every thing in Scripture testifies that the ecstatic tongues manifestation of “aka glory” is false, and a delusion to believe a lie.

      For any one who has ears to hear, or “listen with” let me repeat what I have been warning people about:

      Stay away from this church. http://www.cfcky.com. Pastor Tommy Bates, and “aka glory.”

      Another thing Jesus Christ said about the Comforter, the Holy Spirit. When He comes He will testify of me. The spirit “aka glory” has always tried to testify of what she call the Holy Spirit in total contradiction of Scripture.

      • aka glory

        Not the same tongues….THIS IS NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES in the book of Corinthians. But you will never understand the SUPERNATURAL BAPTISM OF THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST in the Book of Acts…That is not the same gift.
        1- GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST…..given with the evidence of speaking in unknown tongues. miracles, healing follow this gift. Deliverance. 3000 GOT IT IN ONE DAY, 1000 CAN SPEAK IN UNKNOWN TONGUES as the Spirit gives the utterance in church or outside or in your living room….because it is NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES.

        2- GIFT OF TONGUES must come with GIFT OF INTERPRETATION. completely different from the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE DIFFERENT GIFTS. I have had no. 1 for over 29 years, but i have never had the GIFT OF TONGUES WITH A MESSAGE FOR THE CHURCH. these are only given 2 or 3 during a service and not always in every service. These are messages from God to the entire church. ONce you get the first gift then you will know when the second one happens in church.

        THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT GIFTS.
        NO. 1 IS FOR ALL NATIONS, ALL RACES, ALL PEOPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN. THIS IS FOR ALL JEW AND GENTILE…ALLL
        NO. 2 IS FOR ONLY SOME PEOPLE WHO ALREADY RECEIVED THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. YOu have to have no. 1 before you are given no. 2 GIFT OF TONGUES.

        Paul and David have no clue, because neither have received the gift of no. 1 yet.

        • Skywatcher

          aka glory, you are correct. These are guys who would tell women there is not pain in child birth because they haven’t experienced it. It’s always easy to ridicule and to criticize that which one has never experienced for themselves, i.e. one who has never known the strong and warm hug of a dad in their life. Because of the lack of such display of love in their own lives, they would seek to tear down and to destroy other guys whose dads loved them in that manner. They verbally abuse them and accuse them of this or that, but little do they know what they are missing.

          Having said that, you have said several things that I cannot agree with in regards to the Trinity, and your “10 minute” baptism plan. That’s for another time. I don’t want to waste this gloriously wintry day sitting at my ‘puter. I have a cousin who believes the same way you do, and when I confront her with Scripture which strongly refutes her position, she clams up and that’s the end of the discussion. She throws in her doctrinal dart and then runs. I’m not saying you do that, because it obvious that you’re not a runner! 🙂 I’m just saying there would be no benefit for either of us to enter into that discussion here.

          Relax, Sis, and stop casting your pearls before swine. Jesus tells us not to do that. I understand your passion and zeal. Having the Holy Spirit work in our lives in that manner is beyond words. People get excited for winning the Power Ball or some other lottery. They excitedly tell their family and friends about it, with great joy. However, it is not always received in the spirit with which the message was given. Envy, jealously, and malice enters into the hearts of the hearers, and turns a wonderful experience into an ugly one.

          You and I, and many others know the world didn’t give the Holy Spirit to us, or our peace and joy, and it cannot take Him/nor it away either! Those who attempt to do so are the “traitors”, II Tim. 3: 4 that Paul accused of “having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” v. 5. They or their church may have once had the truth about the Holy Spirit, but turned their backs on Him, or denied Him, as we see them doing here. In verse 7, we see a great description of such folk, “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

          These are the same people who for some reason, believe it is quite o.k. to omit whole chapters from God’s Word, or by using the lame excuse: “That was a different dispensation”! I cannot get over such arrogance and self-righteousness that would do that.

          I also know that there are souls NOT going to Hell today, because I received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit which empowered and emboldened me to do so. Before that, I was too shy and bashful to stand up and to speak up for my Lord! I was powerless to witness to people; I tried. Oh…I knew the verses to use, but the passion, the vitality, and the power was not in the presentation.

          But look out! When the Holy Ghost got a strong hold on me, I became a tenacious soul winner! What made the difference? He gave me a deep seated passion for souls! He suddenly opened my eyes and allowed me to see others through the eyes of the Savior! What a world of difference He makes.

          Let’s stop riding on dead horses here, and get us some live ones to minister to in love, truth, and grace! You, I, nor thousands of others will ever convince them that they are missing out on the dessert! They’re happy with meat and spuds; leave them to it! I want the full meal deal!

          I’ve made a new year’s resolution this year! Normally I don’t, but this may be our last year so I did. Here it is: I’m going to be the most selfish, gluttonness, and greedy person in the Kingdom of God! I’m pulling up to His table, and I’m getting as much from Him this year as I can possibly get! Don’t get in my way! I’m there for a feast, and I’m not pushing away from that table until I can take no more! There is nobody else at this table but me! I’m not looking to the left or to the right to see who is getting what. I want all He has for me, and not a morsel less! I’m taking a wheelbarrow to this table! WHY? So glad you asked! So I can give it away and go back for MORE! 🙂 His storehouse is full, when mine is empty!

      • Paul

        David,
        1 Cor. 1:14 “I THANK GOD that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;”
        1 Cor.1;16 “And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other”
        1 Cor. 1:17 “For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.”

        These verses prove Paul never taught baptismal regeneration. He thanked God he didn’t baptize many people. Will some people on this blog believe it…I doubt it.

        Paul KNEW he was sent only to preach the Gospel. It was then up to the hearer, Jew or gentile, to believe it or reject it. If they trusted in the finished work of Christ as their sin payment they were saved at that moment … period. THEN they were baptized to show they had trusted in Christ as a public testimony.

        Rom. 10:17 “So then FAITH cometh by HEARING, and hearing by the word of God.”

        Eph. 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through FAITH;(not baptism) and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”

        If they can not get baptism and salvation straight how can you expect them to get ‘unknown tongues’ right?
        There is only ONE teaching in the Bible of what ‘unknown tongues’ is and that’s in Acts 2:4 and that is a SIGN gift to JEWS which was prophesied in the O.T. They spoke in languages of the lands that the visiting Jews came from for the celebration of Pentecost so that ALL JEWS would have the opportunity to believe on Jesus as Savior. When they rejected the gospel, Jesus called out Paul to go preach it to the gentiles which was also prophesied in the O.T.that they would receive it.
        The whole jibberish tongues cult that’s being taught today is of pagan origin of Babylonian days and is based on pure emotionalism , not scripture. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach or prophesy a different type of ‘tongues’.

        Today God wants us to only believe his preserved words (KJV) – so we will not be subject to the ‘lying signs and wonders’ that are prophesied to come.

        Satan has no new tricks. He plays the same old ones over again because they work.
        .

        • Skywatcher

          Paul, you “nailed it”, Brother! There are a couple of statements in particular, I’d like to comment on,

          “The whole jibberish tongues cult that’s being taught today is of pagan origin of Babylonian days and is based on pure emotionalism , not scripture.”

          “today” is the operative word there. Thirty years ago, in my Pentecostal denomination (Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada), the gifts of the Holy Spirit were not being abused as they are today by other brands of “Pentecostals”! As a former Pentecostal pastor, I can say that what is going on today, would NEVER EVER be permitted in the house of the Lord back then! We called charismatics “heretics” and wanted NO PART in their pathetic teachings, nor did we desire to be grouped with them.

          The heresies and doctrines of demons crept in with the per-versions of the Holy Bible! The flood gates of Hell were opened, and foolishly, a great many who did NOT sit under strong leadership, denouncing these phonies, had no idea, and lapped them up like a dog would cold clear water on a hot summer’s day! They picked up spiritual parasites/critters from these phony, Satan-induced “scriptures”! Now, we have the mess we have today, and hence, the reason for this debate between aka glory, TorchbearerforJesus, David, yourself, and others.

          Based upon those statements, you may call me a “heretic” if you like, but God has done way too much for me to believe I was or am serving another “Christ” or false doctrine. What I’m seeing in these charismatic churches today and elsewhere, is nothing more than a mockery of God and self-deception!

          I consider myself a “Bapticostal” because I was saved in a Baptist church at the age of 7 (50 years ago), and later on, God called me into Pentecostal ministry. I stepped out of the ministry many years ago, for very foolish reasons, but here I am today…with the benefit of “both worlds” so to speak. I can see where both sides are coming from, where each side is seriously lacking, and then I see God in the middle, still working through me, as many have attested to on this site.

          Do I speak in tongues now? I see no need, nor has God impressed such a need upon me to do so. Sometimes, I have a burden that is so heavy that I cannot find the right words to pray, then I allow the Holy Spirit to intercede for me with groanings that cannot be uttered. That’s biblical. Tongues speaking is NEVER a step to mandatory requirement for salvation! That is HERESY! To say “tongues are not for today” is HERESY. I’ve seen the real gift of tongues in operation, whereby a person spoke in perfect Dutch who had never been to Holland or learned the language. Another man in the congregation stood up and asked him what part of Holland he was from. He said he had never been to Holland. The man for whom the message was intended said, “You must have been, for you spoke in my mother tongue, and answered a question I had taken to God in prayer.” The man, a perfect stranger vowed he had NEVER been to Holland or even knew how to speak Dutch.

          So you see, God is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. He still operates the same today as He did in the Book of Acts, or I Cor. 12-14 would not be in the canon of Scripture. For those who have never seen this before, it is quite hard to comprehend, and I can respect the scepticism. For the unbelievers in the congregation of close to 3,000 people that day in 1978, in Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, that was quite a revelation! For us believers, we were used to it, perhaps too much so, and took such a blessing for granted. It rarely happens nowadays, from what I’m being told.

          I’ve said all that to say this: that was genuine; much of what we’re seeing today is of Satan! And yes, I’m you’re brother in Christ; I love Him with all my body, soul, and mind! I speak to Him in English, and I sing to Him in English when I worship and praise Him, although sometimes, it’s very hard to put into words just how deep my emotion (love) is for Him! My eyes tear up, my voice wavers, and I’m so humbled. It comes right from my spirit, the core of my being, and I feel at that moment, as a young man does when he’s deeply in love with his leading lady, only deeper! He understands me, and I hear and understand Him. We have a great connection, and I love Him more and more each day!

          There will always be skeptics; that’s to be expected AND that’s NOT a bad thing! Many who believe they have the Holy Spirit really have the spirit of Kundalini and do NOT know it!

          Paul, you said, “There is only ONE teaching in the Bible of what ‘unknown tongues’ is and that’s in Acts 2:4 and that is a SIGN gift to JEWS which was prophesied in the O.T.”

          The words, “unknown tongues” would better be translated, “unlearned”, as the Word states that the people from the other locals recognized the languages that were being spoken. “Unknown” sounds like they were not of this world, which is not the case.

          A number of us had attended a Francis Hunter weekend seminar with our pastor many years ago. Everything was Scripturally sound until…people were invited to the “altar” to “learn how to speak in tongues”. The Holy Spirit within me cringed when I saw/heard this!!! That is blasphemy, heresy, and damnable on all points! THAT is NOT of God! The deception was that good, up to that point! I was a teen then, and I looked at my young pastor, he looked at me, several of us exchanged glances, and simultaneously, we ALL got up and walked out! We were in shock, and spoke about it at great lengths on the way home. We were thoroughly disgusted!

          I’m afraid aka glory is waaaay off in the deep end! Heresy mixed with truth is still a lie. She has sat under the tutelage of some scripturally ignorant teachers somewhere along the way. Her leaders obviously could not read Greek or Hebrew, or had NO access to books written by scholars who could! It’s important to know the history, the culture, the social climate, etc. of the various passages of Scripture that we read, so that we can have an accurate understanding of what God wants us to have. That’s why He raised up godly historians, Bible scholars of yesteryear, who were closer to the events, to record them for our benefit.

          Ignorance is not always a good thing! A police officer will gladly tell us that! We, who are “spiritual police”, watching, listening, and scrutinizing, comparing “precept upon precept” also see that ignorance or deceptions are not a good thing. As some have stated on this forum, deception in these last days is definitely on the increase!

          Paul, I’m curious to know where you believe I Cor. 12-14 fits into today’s Church experience. Seeing that we are still in the Church Age, I believe chapters 12 and 14 are just as viable today as chapter 13 is. I don’t believe we can cherry pick what Scriptures are for today and which are not, especially when chap. 13 is plopped right in the middle of the other two. What say you?

          • Paul

            Skywatcher,
            I was raised Catholic and believed everything I was taught. When I trusted Jesus Christ alone as my substitute and Savior the first thing I learned real fast was don’t trust people. The word of God (KJV) became my total final authority. If God didn’t give and PRESERVE his perfect words he would have no grounds to condemn anyone for rejecting truth. But as it is He did and so no one is without excuse. What people do with his word is up to their choice of free will.
            Jesus was Deity in human flesh who’s sole purpose was to die as our substitute receiving God’s judgment for our sins on our behalf. I know you understand all of this. But my point is Jesus, because he was in appearance just a man and humble, was rejected. The Bible is the written words of God and because ,in appearance, is just a humble book penned by men is also rejected as the final authority. Men think they can correct it and improve it because they set themselves up to be the final authority over it. They believe it was inspired by God but the same God was helpless to preserve it. How foolish. Why would He inspire it not intending to preserve it for us?!

            I am a dispensationalist. God deals with people in different ways in different time periods. He also deals with people in two ways. As individuals and as people groups. Example; Jews are God’s chosen people because of his promise to Abraham and the promised land and a coming Kingdom. But individual Jews who do not receive Christ as Savior are lost and go to hell just as any gentile. There are not two plans of salvation. Someday the NATION of Israel WILL accept Jesus as their messiah, at the end of the tribulation, and all Israel will be saved. But that does not mean all Jewish individuals are automatically saved from hell because they are his chosen people. “He who has the Son has life, he who hath not the Son hath not life but the wrath of God abideth on him”. Could it be any clearer than that?

            I also believe saved people can be lead astray when they don’t study God’s word. You stated a man spoke Dutch that never learned it and a Dutch man understood it perfectly. THAT is an example of biblical tongues and I have no doubt God can and in some circumstances does it today. But that is not the norm. Missionaries today have to learn the languages of the countries they go to. God gives them no short cuts. Maybe because we all need to grow in faith and patience and learn to trust Him.

            As for 1 Cor. 12-14 You have to understand the N.T. was not written yet. God was dealing with believers differently then. Paul was still teaching them by preaching what Jesus had revealed to him. Satan could easily introduce false teachers and doctrine and he did. God revealed truth ( prophecies, word of knowledge etc.) personally to believers then because they had no final authority written. So sign gifts and miracles WERE necessary in that dispensation of the apostles. But God has always wanted people to believe and have faith in what God’s word says. NOT signs and miracles. That’s why the Bible warns of lying signs and wonders – they are LIES and deceptions of Satan, imitating God,(Satan always imitates God) to deceive people from truth.
            1 Cor. 13:8-11 is about maturity in your faith and when scriptures were complete there would be no purpose for tongues,prophecies, words of knowledge etc. because EVERY believer would have access to the whole counsel of God. God has given us a great weapon because today we are to check out every teaching with the light of God’s word and leading of the Holy Spirit. He not only wrote the Bible but indwells every believer to teach and reveal God’s truth.

            The church age is going to end in disaster. I believe one of the reasons the rapture happens is because the church, as a people group, fail and becomes ineffective to it’s mission and Jesus takes us home. The Laidocean church age, which we are in, is a disaster. At that point God turns His attention to the sons of Abraham once again, as a people group, with the time of Jacobs trouble — to get them with their backs against a wall and FINALLY to call out to God for salvation from annihilation. And who shows up with scares in his hands and feet? THAT day they finally believe Jesus was always their Messiah.

            Abraham simply believed what God had told and promised him and his faith was counted for righteousness. This is my whole point. Simple faith in God’s trustworthiness as revealed in his preserved words. Without them we have no compass and are lost on a sea of deception. This is why God’s preserving His words for us is without doubt or controversy. The problem is most everyone says they believe the Bible but do they really? Are they truth seekers? The Bible interprets itself. One of the jobs of the Holy Spirit is to lead us into all truth. He loves us and will do that if we seek it with all our heart.

            THE big question for everyone is what is your final authority? Cults always have two authorities. True Christians today have but one.

            Blessings

        • David Kaus

          Hello Paul: You are absolutely correct about what you have stated in you post about there being no baptismal regeneration. That can only happen by having Jesus Christ crucified evidently set before some one. It is only by the shedding of blood that there is remission of sins. That faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ cleanses the heart, and makes it a fit place for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

          Now the word of God can wash our sins away by its conviction of sin in our lives which will lead us to confess our sins and have God deal with them through the Blood of Jesus Christ. We therefore have Scripture that tells us that if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

          It seems we have a common back ground. I to was raised a Roman Catholic but thankfully God pulled me out of that religious system at an early age. Today I align myself with a fundamental Baptist stance, one that follows the doctrine of Jesus Christ, but I do not label myself a Baptist, but a Christian saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ. There are many fundamentalist preachers out there today from different denominations. I have had a lot of contact with Pentecostal/Charismatic people and churches. In every instance lives were destroyed by, and are being destroyed by that other spirit Paul warned the church about.

          Dispensationalism is just a fact of Biblical history. I don’t care how it is labeled but the fact remains that God dealt differently with people throughout the ages. That is quite obvious.

          Many fail to realize the historical significance of the book of Acts, and the New Covenant that God had established through Jesus Christ. How radical was that in its time ? Can you imagine coming up to an orthodox Jew in that time like Paul and telling him that the Old Covenant was no longer in effect ? It wasn’t going to fly with Paul and he was going to exterminate all that went around teaching this new doctrine. God used signs, wonders, and miracles through the apostles to validate their ministry, and to testify to the Jews that the shed blood of Jesus Christ brought in the New Covenant as God had promised Israel.

          God, even in Israel’s rejection, and crucifixion of Jesus Christ still brought the New Covenant to Israel first. As the book of Romans states, to the Jew first. This Scripture is most often taken out of it’s context today, and still quoted as if God had not turned from the Jews who had finally rejected the New Covenant, and Jesus Christ, and turned to the Gentiles to take out a people for His Name. It’s rather difficult to try to make a statement “to the Jew first” today when God has turned to the Gentiles. Either He is still holding His Hand out to the Jews, or He has turned to the Gentiles. You can’t have it both ways. Having said this I am not saying that individually a Jew can not be saved today, nor that God will finally turn His attention to the Jewish nation once again in the time of Jacob’s trouble. We can see individual Jews being saved through out church history.

          The person you are referring to and her heretical doctrines on water baptism, and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is in total confusion. That should be all to obvious to any one who has any discernment whatsoever. Can you imagine some one encouraging her, and telling her that she is casting her “pearl” before swine ? Birds of a feather fly together.

          Galatians 3:1,2 shows us exactly how a person receives the Holy Spirit, that being by Jesus Christ being preached, crucified for our sins.

          No matter how sincere any one may be as to receiving the Holy Spirit any other way, it just will not fly in the face of God’s Word ……period.

          One thing to keep in mind about any testimony about some one speaking in tongues today even if it is a real language, especially in a congregation. God is not the author of confusion. He has stated that tongues would cease once the Scriptures were completed. The generation that had that gift would no doubt continue with that gift till they died. Then it ceased when Scripture was complete.

          In addition, tongues were a sign to the unbelieving Jews of the wonderful works of God going out to the Gentiles also. There is no need of that testimony today.

          When the gift of tongues was manifested in the early church, every Scriptural requirement for the gift of tongues had to be present when that gift was exercised. Those guide lines are clearly given in 1 Corinthians 12, 13, and 14.

          Those who heard Dutch being spoken in a church by a man who didn’t know that language does not automatically qualify that manifestation as being from God. If the man who heard his Dutch language being spoken was a believer that disqualifies it right there. A believer does not have to fall on his face and testify that God is among the congregation, he already knows that !!!

          Secondly the man who knew Dutch would not fulfill Scripture by just saying that he just heard his native tongue being spoken to him by some one who had never spoken it before. There would have to have been an interpretation of what was said for the edification of the entire church. So that manifestation is nullified on two counts. But there is another. The guy who knew Dutch was in a church that spoke a language he knew, probably English. So tell me ? What need was there to speak to him in an unknown tongue ??? In addition it more than likely happened in a Pentescostal church that had already given itself over to such unscriptural error. What a nice way for this congregation to be further deluded in an unscriptural practice. Just as a note, women are the most prone to the ecstatic tongues deception. Their make up is one that makes them susceptible to emotion. Eve was deceived exactly in that matter in the garden.

          Every pagan religion has an ecstatic tongues manifestation. That should alarm anyone who has eyes to see, and ears to hear. Witches have infiltrated Pentecostal churches and have spoken in a real unknown language to mock those in the church with what the witches knew to be a false manifestation of the real gift of tongues. The witches spoke blaspheming Jesus Christ. The Pentecostals, having no idea of what was being said, started praising God for that manifestation. So where was the spirit of discernment there ? Emotionalism in any form can excite the senses and become a powerful delusion.

          The carnal mind is fertile ground for every deception in the book. The only guide line we have is Scripture, and the indwelling Holy Spirit. If the test of Scripture is not fulfilled exactly, then it isn’t coming from God no matter how much it seems to be.

          Take a look at “Christian” rock music today, and its emotional deception. There is a great book out by Dr. Jack Wheaton called “Crisis In Christian Music.” Jack produced music scores for films, and even a production for one of the Olympics. He knows about the powerful influence of music on the human mind, how Hollywood uses it so effectively to control people, and how it can bypass our critical defense systems in our brains, and make it automatically react to its influence without hindrance if we are not on our guard.

          Have you ever gone into a store where an old rock tune was being played that you used to like as a young man ? If your mind is preoccupied you might catch yourself getting in to it a little before you realize what is happening. Every vehicle of deception in the book is being used by satan to deceive people today. Especially those who love not the truth. I highly recommend the book.

          Knowing the Scriptures brings discernment. People like aka glory stand out like a sore thumb. The Scriptural admonition is to mark them that cause division contrary to the doctrine ye have learned, and avoid them. And especially not to let them deceive others who are unaware. And, a heretic after the first or second admonition reject, knowing that they are subverted of themselves.

          After a heretic has refused to acknowledge what Scripture is saying, they have left themselves open to being subverted by their own refusal to acknowledge the truth. That is exactly what is happening to aka glory, and any one else who holds to their subjective experience over the objective Word of God.

          Thanks for your post Paul, and God Bless brother.

          • Skywatcher

            David, your rightfully said, “God is not the author of confusion”. This was NOT a Pentecostal church service, as you suggested. And, there was NO confusion! It was done decently, and in order.

            You said, “Secondly the man who knew Dutch would not fulfill Scripture by just saying that he just heard his native tongue being spoken to him by some one who had never spoken it before. There would have to have been an interpretation of what was said for the edification of the entire church.”

            My humble apologies to everybody who has been following this spiritual “battle”, as I neglected to mention that the man who heard the message in his own mother tongue (Dutch) gave almost 3,000 of us the interpretation! It was a very PERSONAL message for him, that wasn’t personally for me, and because I was so used to witnessing such, I didn’t bother to remember what it was.

            Furthermore, I have no idea if the man who had received the message was a believer or not; I didn’t know him personally. However, NO HUMAN being could’ve EVER orchestrated the “holy hush” that instantaneously and simultaneously fell over that crowd! Instantly, you could’ve heard a pin drop!

            You said, “Those who heard Dutch being spoken in a church by a man who didn’t know that language does not automatically qualify that manifestation as being from God. If the man who heard his Dutch language being spoken was a believer that disqualifies it right there.”

            For the record, I don’t know if the man was a believer or not; the fact that a personal message was spoken by a total stranger, in the recipient’s own mother tongue, is plenty of “witness” or edification to any other non-believers that were present! That theologically covers it.

            You foolishly and naively state, “After a heretic has refused to acknowledge what Scripture is saying, they have left themselves open to being subverted by their own refusal to acknowledge the truth. That is exactly what is happening to aka glory, and any one else who holds to their subjective experience over the objective Word of God.”

            It seems to me, my dear brother in Christ, that one’s salvation “experience” is also “subjective”, would you not agree? God deals with every person on an individual basis/level. What reaches some would not reach others. The salvation experience is subjective, coupled WITH the objective Word of God. This “experience”, that dirty word you don’t like, lined precisely with God’s Word, or it would have been dismissed and explained as NOT being of God back then. Today, much is being accepted in many churches to be of God, when it really is the Kundalini spirit, as I’ve AGREED WITH YOU so MANY times before, but you DON’T listen!

            As I’ve recently said to Paul et al, we must be very careful not to give credit to Satan for that which is a genuine move of the Holy Spirit, meeting ALL the biblical requirements.

            I’m only addressing your comment in this regard BROTHER David, to clarify it for others who have been following along. God bless you!

        • Skywatcher

          Brother Paul, I agree with almost everything that you said to me, but several statements have me wondering. You said,

          “1 Cor. 13:8-11 is about maturity in your faith and when scriptures were complete there would be no purpose for tongues,prophecies, words of knowledge etc. because EVERY believer would have access to the whole counsel of God.”

          Would you mind giving me a Scripture reference for that train of thought (“when scriptures were complete…”), please?

          Oh yes, I’m familiar with the passage referring to the “perfect word of God”, but “inside”, that just doesn’t cut it for me. If God’s word is really that “perfect”, reason and common sense tells me (along with the Holy Spirit), that we have no business to be dissecting it, and taking out the parts we don’t agree with and keeping the rest.

          The reason why I’m asking is because I strongly believe “that which is perfect” is referring to the Millennial Reign of our Lord. Everything WILL be wonderfully perfect at that time, and we have PLENTY of Biblical evidence for that.

          You also said, “As for 1 Cor. 12-14 You have to understand the N.T. was not written yet.”

          I find that to be an excuse for dismissing the parts we don’t want to accept. PLEASE, that is not an attack on you, but merely an observation induced by others. If we can omit I Cor. 12 & 14, “because the New Testament wasn’t written yet”, then we can dismiss all of it. It WAS BEING WRITTEN while it was being preached. If those two chapters are no longer for us today, then neither is the “love chapter”…which was written in the same “dispensation”, smack dab in the middle of Chps. 12 & 14! Upon that premise, the same condemnation would have to apply to the majority of the N.T.. Grace and justification by faith would be null and void.

          You also stated, “So sign gifts and miracles WERE necessary in that dispensation of the apostles.”

          “In that dispensation”…as a dispensationalist myself, I believe we are still in the Church Age, for the Church has not been removed yet nor is her ministry to the world over yet. So, how can we Scripturally point the finger at “THAT dispensation”, as though it were history, a thing of the past, that no longer applies?

          I’m very much aware that the days of having apostles is over (based upon the correct definition of an apostle), but that is not a recognized dispensational period.

          Why wouldn’t the sign gifts and miracles be just as important to winning the lost today as they were then? I definitely know that miracles are STILL leading people to Christ every day…all over the world.

          Just for the record, for the rest reading this, this is in NO WAY a Pentecostal, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc., issue! I believe the whole N.T. is for the benefit of the whole Church, no matter what color, stripe, creed, or country.

          Yes, I get the whole concept of “lying signs and wonders – they are LIES and deceptions of Satan, imitating God,(Satan always imitates God) to deceive people from truth.”, as you’ve said. They make me want to puke when I see them being imitated and abused!!! I fear for the souls of the ones who are doing the imitating as well! “Be not fooled; God is not mocked”, always comes to my mind at those times.

          Having said that, I seriously believe that we need to be careful not to toss out the possibility of God using the real thing today, in our midst, i.e. Dutch message I shared previously. The hearer had been seeking God for an answer to his prayers, which he wasn’t able to get until that very moment in time…in his own tongue. That was in this “dispensation”, this period of time…1978, and I’m sure it witnessed to many non-believers that were “in the house”.

          I ask these questions, because I think we sometimes can get so religiously-minded, that we miss out on the “play times” that God wants to do in our lives. I say that VERY reverently, because as mortals, things are so difficult for us to grasp or to do, especially in our faith walk. However, “with God, all things are possible”, and I believe He does it sometimes just because it’s fun for Him, and He loves to bless His children. I believe we’re wrongly accusing Satan for those “rare” times that God has actually “pulled off” a miracle in our midst, and He is being robbed of the glory and praise. We don’t get miracles from God because we don’t expect miracles!

          I question all things; if it doesn’t align with God’s Word, then I have serious issues. If the Holy Spirit checks me in my own spirit that something is amiss, then I sit up and pay strict attention. However, when He used me to heal somebody, and I had the physical evidence of it, I knew it was He, and not I or the silly flesh at work. Please…let me explain…

          Many years ago, at Teen Camp, after the service, several of us were standing together fellowshipping while we were waiting for the lunch line to shorten. One young girl said, “I don’t feel very well. I have a pain in my stomach.”

          Me, being a Peter type, bold, full of faith, and unassuming, quickly said, “Would you like us to lay hands on you and pray for your healing?” James 5: 13-15.

          Of course, we didn’t have any anointing oil, and to the kids younger than us, I guess that would make us the “elders”. In any event, God honored our simple child-like faith.

          I asked this girl if she minded if I placed my hand on her tummy where she showed us the pain was in residence. She said, “O.K.” Back then, everything wasn’t about sex or sexual assault; there was still a semblance of innocence, and you could do these things without fear of legal repercussion.

          The others placed their hands on her shoulders, back, etc. and I prayed out loud. I don’t know exactly what I said, but at a certain point, when I felt a strong bump against the inside of my hand upon her belly, the Holy Spirit said, “Remember what you just said.” This was a new experience for me…

          When I said, “Amen”, the young lady said, “When you said (such and such), it just left me! It’s gone, and I feel great!” We thanked the Lord! She spoke out the EXACT phrase the Holy Spirit had told me to “remember”! I just acted as though it were normal, because I really expected a healing, and went to lunch, musing to myself about what God had just done, and praising Him for it.

          Other folks reading this, I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR…I HEALED NOBODY!!! It was the Holy Spirit who healed! I was just the instrument He chose to use at that particular time. That was in this “dispensation”. He used me in like manner several months ago, although I didn’t have the bump to the hand, nor did I hear His voice prompting me to remember any part of my prayer. The person I prayed for told me later in the day, that when I laid hands on him and prayed, he felt “a tremendous heat pass through (his) body” and he was healed.

          The truly amazing thing about that was, he went up to the altar for prayer for healing of kidney stones. NOBODY went to pray for him. The Holy Spirit STRONGLY impressed upon ME to go pray with him, as I had numerous issues with kidney stones in the past, and could relate. God’s requirements to work miracles really are not that strenuous…He just seeks faith and obedience on our part.

          You see, I believe we’re not seeing so many miracles in N. America these days for several reasons:

          We lack faith and courage.
          We are fearful, in case the Lord doesn’t heal immediately…or at all.
          Satan accuses us of doing it in the flesh or to be seen.
          We’ve been told, “That’s not for today.” Our church doesn’t believe in that…
          We have sin in our lives.
          We are being willfully disobedient to the Spirit’s wooing to pray for each other in this manner.
          We are not close enough to the Shepherd to hear (recognize) His voice when He prompts us to do so.
          We are fearful of others, “What will they say? What will they think of me? What if…”
          WE DON’T CARE ENOUGH TO PRAY FOR SUCH MIRACLES.
          What if God really does heal this person? Maybe it’s a “lying wonder” that Satan performed…I don’t want to be accused of doing such…

          What really makes the Holy Spirit be quenched within me is when I witness some poor soul praying over a sick person saying, “Lord, IF IT BE THY WILL to heal so and so…” What rubbish! When is it EVER God’s will that any of His children should be sick with cancer, TB, etc. etc.?! It’s never His will! What a cop out! What a tremendous display of a serious lack of faith!

          Why is it, when we do get sick, God is most always the last resort for healing? Doctors have conveniently taken the place of our Great Physician! We’ve slammed God into a box; the doctors become the idol of worship. I’m convinced that there are many times we are not healed because we have NOT taken our “sins and griefs to God in prayer”, as the old hymn, “What a Friend We Have in Jesus” states.

          Other times, we are not healed and die because we have issues with other people. We have not obediently left our gift at the altar and gone to make things right first! Mt. 5: 23, 24; I Cor. 11: 27-30. I guess some would say, that was in a “different dispensation”. Rubbish!

          Brother Paul, I don’t know why I said all the latter, but somebody out there obviously needs it today! I eagerly look forward to your answers to my questions!

          Blessings!

          • Paul

            2TIM 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

            All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

            That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

            I think these verses answer your question— scriptures. They make you perfect THRUOGHLY.
            The ‘scriptures’ Paul was referring to were the O.T. and Timothy’s grandmother had a inerrant copy of them.

            As for 1 Cor. 12-14 I never said we should omit these verses. The fact of history is the N.T. was not completed at that writing and the church at Corinth was SO doctrinally messed up, because of false teachers, Paul had to straighten the mess out. Yes, there were genuine gifts of healing, prophecies, words of knowledge etc. at that time BECAUSE the N.T. scriptures were not complete. But TODAY we are not in that predicament. We DO have the complete scriptures. But false teachers and signs abound today and what final authority do we have? The pope? A Bible scholar that thinks he can correct what God has provided? We have what God provided (2 Tim.3)

            Look at the book of Acts. A transitional book. Starts off Jewish with the 11 apostles trying to convert O.T. Jews to Christ. Ends up with Paul establishing gentile churches all over the Mediterranean sea. Starts off with miracles and healings and ends with Paul leaving Trophimus at Miletum sick (2Tim 4:20) The signs were already diminishing. People that get their doctrine from the book of Acts misunderstand the purpose of the book. It is a historical account of the church age before the completion of the N.T. We get our doctrine for today from Paul’s epistles.

            You said “I strongly believe “that which is perfect” is referring to the Millennial Reign of our Lord. Everything WILL be wonderfully perfect at that time, and we have PLENTY of Biblical evidence for that.”
            That’s true but the verses I gave in 2 Tim just said God supplies us with scripture that can make me perfect and throughly FURNISHES me NOW unto all good works. Those verses give quite a shopping list of God’s provision for us today. Who needs signs and gifts?
            You also said about signs and gifts “I seriously believe that we need to be careful not to toss out the possibility of God using the real thing today”. Do you have the ability to tell the difference between the fake and real? I don’t and I don’t care to. Signs and miracles have been done away with because we have God’s complete word. They only open the door for deception. Look at all the Mary apparitions today. They are nothing but satanic deceptions and millions of people believe they are from God. Why? Because they don’t believe the Bible is their authority (2Tim.3 !!). Feelings and emotions are. But they sure are ‘signs’.
            Don’t misunderstand me, I believe God answers prayer for believers in miraculous ways today. But what I’m referring to is the nonsense being taught that we are still in the book of Acts and signs and miracles are abounding and we’re about to have a great revival.
            Ain’t happening. The church age ends in failure as all dispensations do.

    • aka glory

      you are both absolutely incorrect….it is supernatural, neither one of you have received the baptism of the HOLY GHOST and when you finally ask him for that gift…you too will speak in unknown tongues
      watch the truth on http://www.cfcky.com

      David recommends all to watch to judge for yourselves….and see if i am telling the truth.
      Tell my sister who was healed from cancer over 30 years ago, who prays in unknown tongues.

      Tell that to the girl that was delivered from heroin, meth, crack cocaine, percocets, over 30 demons, if talking in tongues that came out of me for hours for her to be delivered, go ask her if I am telling the truth….YOU should have been there. it was awesome…and demons are real and have you and PAUL so blinded right now….the scales are caked on your eyes….tears of repentance will make them melt away…..ask the above if speaking in unknown tongues are not for real.

      And dont even try to help deliver someone from heroin etc, any demons unless you have obeyed Acts 19:1-20 or they will attack you back….Paul I know, Jesus I know….but who are you …?

    • aka glory

      Really ? Paul and David? REally, Heroin is legal in Italy because they have not cure or deliverance from the drug, because they have believed a lie….the cops pick up bodies daily with needles in their arms. Without the HOLY GHOST given to the gentiles in the Book of Acts starting at chapter 8 to chapter 22….many speaking in unknown tongues, just like i got it. God does not CHANGE< LIE OR DIE

      just watch http://www.cfcky.com keep watching, miracle healings, over 72 miracles of healing from cancer, some overnite, like the 3 month old baby, my sister who is supposed to be dead…is still alive 30 years later. Many many miracles of healing, deliverance from heroin drugs etc testimony after testimony….God does not work in a CHURCH Of unbelievers. Where are your testimonies? Where are the videos of your healings? Where are the cures and deliverance testimonies? Post some here, let me know how you do it without the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD? HOW ? are you using psychics?

      Post testimonies….

  • David Kaus

    STAY AWAY FROM THIS CHURCH

    http://www.cfcky.com

  • aka glory

    WATCH THIS CHURCH http://www.cfcky.com
    testimonies of healing, deliverance, miracles….

    God does not go to a CHURCH THAT IS DEAD…..
    so dead you cannot talk about the GIFT HE GAVE YOU….

  • aka glory

    Everyone pray for David, Paul and others to receive the TRUTH IN THE WORD OF GOD and be delivered as we once were. What a wonderful awesome testimony. LOrd fill them all with PERFECT LOVE that will cast off all fear of the water and of the HOLY GHOST baptism. Fill them with perfect LOVE.

  • David Kaus

    Stay away from this church,http://www.cfcky.com

    and stay away from “aka glory.” A heretic after the first or second admonition reject knowing that they are subverted of themselves.

    “aka glory” has absolutely no clue about what she is talking about. Her twisting of Scripture is to her own destruction, as Scripture states. She is a rebellious, apostate seeking to lure others into her pagan ecstatic tongues, “quickie 10 minute fix”, so they can get what she has, another spirit that Paul warned the chruch about. No thank you.

    It is quite obvious that she is out to promote her self and not God. Every thing in her post is “I” this, and “I” that, in addition to her slanderous accusations, now where have we heard that before ???

    • Elaine

      Thank you, David Kaus!

      Perhaps this additional info from scripture will enlighten the brethren. I found it to be most enlightening.

      The Personality of the Holy Spirit
      by R. A. Torrey
      Download: PDF

      The Personality of the Holy Spirit
      by R. A. Torrey
      Download: PDF

      R. A. Torrey Evangelist – Christian Biography…
      http://www.wholesomewords.org/biography/biorptorrey.html

      God Bless

      • David Kaus

        You are entirely welcome Elaine. There is a lot of deception going on today. The whole ecstatic tongues “10 minute quick fix” is nothing more than a manifestation that every pagan religion exhibits. As you can see from the people trying to promote this dangerous deception, and those who try to encourage them, they have not rightly divided the Word of God. Most of the time their responses are personal attacks that are nothing short of being slanderous.

        Any one who tries to separate the indwelling of the Holy Spirit from faith in the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ, and advertise it as a “10” minute self induced “experience” is self deluded. Incredibly some people are led astray from such a farce of a heresy. It is nothing short of laughable, yet very tragic because lives will be destroyed by this deception. And that is why I spoke out so strongly about it. I’ve seen lives, and families destroyed by this garbage before, and am still seeing lives, and families being destroyed by it today.

        These women are being led around by the nose by emotionalism, and another spirit, just like those so called “bold” witness in every pagan religion. Carnality loves to be led around with a hightened sense of self confidence, which always turns out to reject the objective Word of God.

        Thanks for the information by R.A. Torrey.
        :

    • aka glory

      David, some people it takes years to see the truth in the WORD of God. But for others, who are hungry for truth and HIS SPIRIT, less than 10 min. Prayed another thru to the baptism of the GIFT of the HOLY GHOST in less than 10 min. Sunday nite and she spoke in unknown tongues for over an hour. It was wonderful, thank you for advertising for the CHURCH BUILT ON THE WORD OF GOD in the Book of Acts. Grateful. If you need prayer for depression, suicide, bitterness, unforgiveness, those sorts of things, deliverance to set the captive free, let me know. I am praying for you. Been in the truth for over 29 years. Seen many like you get delivered. See this wonderful song of deliverance….maybe you will get the baptism of the HOLY GHOST watching and listening and be free from hatred etc. HE is patiently waiting for you to come to him. yes, pride does take a little bit longer than 10 min. I got it in 10 min. but you sound like you have some issues that need to be addressed first. God Bless
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk9gYyTDaHg THE SONG IS CALLED CLEAN….and yes these girls are filled with the baptism of the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST AS IN ACTS 2:1-47.

  • Elaine

    Oops, sorry for the duplicate, meant to add this one.

    The Person and work of The Holy Spirit
    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/30241

  • aka glory

    TRINITY PAGAN DOCTRINE: To Skywatcher/Torchbearer. I learned from the LORD and from the JEWS that He is ONE. NOT 3 persons in a God Head created by PAGAN ROMANISM.
    1- He revealed to me that HE WAS HE, I AM THE I AM. Then study ISAIAH the whole book and hilite when GOD SAYS I AM ALONE, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDE ME, There is NO OTHER REDEEMER….read all those, I will send scripts later.
    2-He spoke to me in ONE VOICE and ONLY ONE VOICE, not three
    3-Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
    4- Mary called him JESUS, GOD IS WITH US: fulfilling Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Mat_1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
    5- He told the disciples, when they asked where the FATHER was and he said you are looking at him. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

    A ‘PERSON’ has to be born, have a birth date, and die, have a date of death. A PERSON always has a NAME. When triplets are born, 3 persons, they all have a birth date, and each one has a NAME given to them, they are distinct individuals.
    Well, GOD HAD ONLY ONE SON, there is NO OTHER. Mother did not give birth to triplets. God the Father was never born and never died and does not have his own name. God the HOly Ghost was never born and never died and does not have his own name. In my previous post I EXPLAINED THE NAME OF THE ROCK, Deut. 32:1-4, 1 Corin. 10:4.
    1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
    The NAME OF GOD IS JESUS CHRIST in fulfillment of ISAIAH 9:6; 7:14 and John 1:1..the WORD WAS GOD AND THE WORD BECAME FLESH.
    GOD THE FATHER, IS THE WORD OF GOD…all thru the OT when God spoke he would say: THUS SAITH THE LORD…..no name, HIS name was JEHOVAH or JAH in the OT and translated from HEB says ‘I AM’, when Moses said what is your name? HE SAID TELL THEM ‘I AM’ the ‘I AM’. All singular….for GOD. the POWER BEHIND THE WORD OF GOD IS THE HOLY GHOST. or THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD. THE HOLY GHOST IS A GHOST, IS A SPIRIT, IS THE POWER.
    You have to delete from your traditional thinking that God the Father was a man….the OT says HE WAS NOT A MAN:
    Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? 1Sa 15:28 And Samuel said unto him, The LORD hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou.
    1Sa 15:29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.
    Hos 11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
    Job 9:2 I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
    Job 9:32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.

    So the FATHER IS THE WORD, HE CAN CREATE WITH SPEAKING HIS WORD, WITHOUT A PHYSICAL BODY.
    the HOLY GHOST IS A SPIRIT, the BREATH OF GOD, THE WIND THAT PASSES THRU THE AIR, OMNIPRESENT, that is how HE filled you and me and others and 120 in the upper room all at once and every 10 min. ** when someone repents. He is a SPIRIT AND CAN FILL YOU WITH HIS SPIRIT when you ask him to. He gives you the breath of life, which is just a small measure of life keeping you alive. IT IS when you want MORE OF HIM, that he will baptize you with the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST, and it flows out of you like a river of living water, when you are speaking in unknown tongues.
    For those of you who have not RECEIVED this baptism of the HOLY GHOST it is supernatural, like angels and demons, the HOLY GHOST IS THE SUPERNATURAL power of God. the wind …it goes where it wants you cannot control it or contain it the power behind storms and the breeze that lists thru the trees. THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD, the HOLY GHOST. So when you receive it, he is not a person. YOu cannot put two persons in a body and a person cannot be everywhere at once. ONE PERSON could not fill 120 in one room at one time, but a GHOST CAN DO THAT.
    TWO MEN CANNOT GET ONE WOMAN PREGNANT with ONE BABY AND SHE REMAINS A VIRGIN AFTER CONCEPTION.
    Only the Word of God being fulfilled, the FATHER, JOHN 1:1,14 and God the HOLY GHOST entered into Mary, both at the same time and she got pregnant with ‘THEIR SON’…the WORD AND THE POWER GOT HER PREGNANT. The Father spoke it and the HOLY GHOST did the work and she conceived and got pregnant and was still a virgin. So if both were two men as the Catholics say so, then ONE MAN WOULD HAVE NOT HAD ANY PART IN THE CREATION OF THE SON, because two men cannot get one woman pregnant at the same time. IMPOSSIBLE. and remain a virgin after conception…

    THE ROMAN CATHOLICS COPIED THE HINDU PRACTICES THAT WERE RUNNING AROUND THE PORTS OF ROME and the STONE MASONS were going to lose all their income if the CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF 33 AD kept getting bigger and stopped all idolatry. The public was worried about their wallets and the Emperor loved all his statues and columns and pillars to himself. So, he got together with TERTULLIAN from Carthage, big pagan city back then and came up with the HINDU TRIMURTI, Christian version of Trinity, God in 3 persons. That is why those HINDU India statues have all those arms in ONE PERSON, cause that is where the POPE came up with TRINITY and changed Vishnu, Brahman, and Shiva to his own combo group: Father, Son and Holy Ghost and threw in statue of MARY worship for good measure. Totally losing all the book of Acts and ISAIAH.

    NOW YOU ASK WHAT ABOUT THE PLURAL IN GENESIS….see next post

    • Skywatcher

      aka glory, save the scripts. You said, 4. “Mary called him JESUS, GOD IS WITH US”.

      That’s incorrect. “…and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.” Mt. 1: 21.
      V. 23, “…and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

      I’m too tired to iron out the rest. However, I have to touch upon this one: “Only the Word of God being fulfilled, the FATHER, JOHN 1:1,14 and God the HOLY GHOST entered into Mary, both at the same time and she got pregnant with ‘THEIR SON’…the WORD AND THE POWER GOT HER PREGNANT…The Father spoke it and the HOLY GHOST did the work and she conceived and got pregnant and was still a virgin.”

      Wow, that’s an interesting concept if I must say so myself! You’ve proven the Trinity right there, even though it was theologically incorrect. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God the Father, entered into Mary’s body singularly or together with the H.G. That’s heresy.

      Where does it say in the Word, that she became pregnant with “THEIR SON”?

      You went on to say, “So if both were two men as the Catholics say…”

      I don’t give a rat’s tail what “the Catholics say”! I’m interested in only what the HOLY BIBLE has to say, and you’re doing a mighty fine job of twisting it worse than any J.W. or Moron I’ve ever spoken with, and I say this as a former Pentecostal pastor!

      I am still interested in your undertaking of the plural in Gen. 1: 26. I can hardly wait.

      • AKA GLORY

        Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
        1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

        THE FATHER WAS NOT A MAN, NOT A PERSON.
        THE HOLY GHOST IS A SPIRIT, NOT A MAN NOT A PERSON

        GOD THE FATHER SPOKE THE WORD, THE HOLY GHOST IS THE POWER BEHIND THE WORD, THEY BOTH ENTERED MARY AND SHE GOT PREGNANT WITH THE ONLY SON OF GOD.

        PERSONS CANNOT LEAVE A WOMAN A VIRGIN AFTER CONCEPTION. THEREFORE, NEITHER THE FATHER NOR THE HOLY GHOST ARE PERSONS. THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON CREATED, THE SON OF GOD…HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST.
        JOHN 10 AND 14 JESUS SAID I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE. THE FATHER IS IN ME
        LUKE 4 JESUS WAS FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST

        THEY ARE NOT PERSONS…YOU CANNOT HAVE TWO FULL PERSONS STUCK INSIDE ONE PERSON…THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE

        I AM A MOTHER, A DAUGHTER AND I AM FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST I AM ONE PERSON WITH A NAME
        YOU CAN BE A FATHER, A SON AND FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST AND YOU ARE ONE PERSON

        NOT 3 SEPARATE PERSONS.. MARY DID SAY ‘GOD IS WITH US’ AND CALLED HIS NAME JESUS….IT IS WRITTEN

        Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Mat 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

        IN FULFILLMENT OF WHAT GOD THE FATHER SAID WOULD HAPPEN IN HIS WORD: Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

        JESUS IS GOD, HE IS THE FATHER, THE WORD AND THE HOLY GHOST ALL IN ONE. HE BECAME A PERSON FOR 33 YEARS TO FULFILL THE LAST SACRIFICE. HE NEEDED FLESH, BECAUSE THE HOLY GHOST IS NOT FLESH, HE HAD TO WRAP HIS SPIRIT INSIDE OF FLESH, THAT PART CAME FROM MARY…..THE MAN PART. THE SON OF GOD PART WAS THE HOLY GHOST BLOOD. SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH A GHOST…..SPOKEN BY GOD THE FATHER THE WORD.

  • AKA GLORY

    GOD IS NOT A MAN IN THE OT.
    WHY GOD IS NOT 3 PERSONS: WHO WAS THE ‘OUR’ IN OUR IMAGE IN GENESIS? You can now throw out your stopwatches and timers, so you made sure you spent equal time praying and talking to each one person of the trinity. Those go in the trash. Then you were not sure who to pray to either, so you start Father God in the beginning, then you talk to the HOLY GHOST so he is covered and then you end the prayer in JESUS NAME, cause it says to pray to JESUS. TRINITY IS CONFUSION and NOT in the bible. IT is heresy, by the POPE.
    WHAT DID JESUS TELL US TO DO: Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.
    So if JESUS was the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the LAST and is ONE PERSON….how can the bible state OUR IMAGE?
    OK, since by now you don’t God the Father as a person or man.
    NOW YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE ‘IMAGE’ OF THE UNSEEN GOD. Jesus is the IMAGE OF GOD in the flesh. But what DID GOD THE FATHER LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES HE LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE IMAGE OF GOD?
    1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
    SO IF GOD THE FATHER, THE CREATOR, IS NOT A MAN, THEN WHAT IS HE????
    THE BIBLE SAYS HE HAS SEVEN SPIRITS: Rev 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
    WHERE ARE THESE SEVEN (7) SPIRITS OF GOD LISTED? WHAT ARE THE 7 SPIRITS OF GOD?
    (NOTE: plural nature of God)
    IT IS THE BRANCH OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE ‘TREE OF LIFE’ ask your Jewish Friends, they never believed in TRINITY.
    Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
    7 SPIRITS OF GOD, FOR EACH BRANCH OF THE MENORAH, THE CENTER IS THE ‘I AM’ …wisdom, understanding, counsel, might(power), knowledge and the fear of the LORD. that is the 7 SPIRITS OF GOD. count the I AM.
    NOW LET US GO TO THE GENESIS: These 7 Spirits (not 3 men of a trinity musical chairs around one throne trio), were present with GOD THE FATHER WHEN HE CREATED THE EARTH AND ALL IN 7 DAYS….watch and see

    • Skywatcher

      Aka glory, so what you’re saying is that Jesus is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost? You can have YOUR Jesus, because He’s a psychotic lunatic that heard voices (during His baptism), or was the universe’s greatest ventriloquist. He talked to Himself (the Father) an awful lot! He prayed to HIMSELF, according to you, and said, “Not my will be done, but thine be done.” He prayed to Himself, saying, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Why did He go through that charade and not just look down upon the crowd and say, “I forgive you, if He was God the Father? Too many loop holes, aka glory! They don’t align with Scripture!

      I have to say at this point, Father, forgive her, she knows not what she’s talking about in this regard. I’m sorry to have to say that to you, but I’d be here all week typing counter arguments for your foolish doctrine, wives tales and fables, if I addressed each and every one of your statements with the Word of God. That’s a very poor representation of biblical doctrine on your part.

      I look at the horrible counsel that you give to others, strongly encouraging them NOT to read the works of the real great Bible scholars who KNEW what they were talking about. You tell them, they only need the HOLY GHOST, and not the input of man…people who lived during the time of Jesus! Throw the Book away, you’re saying! After all, they were inspired MEN of God, who wrote as the Holy Spirit told them to write, but you, the expert on spiritual matters, confusing passages, etc. can tell people to shun biblical figures and scholars… Shame on you! SHAME ON YOU!

      I’m so sorry to have to use such strong correction as this. Not one of your single arguments hold water! You’re just like my aunt who tried to tell me the same thing, only with accurateness. She had to give up on me too, because I blew her spiritual moorings right out of the water too! She loves Jesus so MUCH, that she hasn’t had ANY time for her nieces or nephews; only one of her three children now serve the Lord, and she’s brainwashed with this same hideous doctrine also.

      I’m too exhausted due to the heat (wood fire) and the time of day to waste any more time on this. Somebody else, feel free to fight Scripture against “scripture”!

  • AKA GLORY

    Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS:
    Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the IMAGE OF GOD created he him; male and female created he them. [THERE WAS A FEMALE AND A MALE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED. So, that throws the 3 men trio out the door, there was no woman in that group. If you and I are created in the IMAGE Of GOD, do you not have an ‘image’ you are not the fullness, you have some of his wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, knowledge, the fear of the LORD and the I AM created you. So now both you and I are an IMAGE OF GOD.]
    NOW WHERE DID THE FEMALE PART COME IN ??? GLAD YOU ASKED, where do women get their 6th sense, that female intuition?
    HERE IT IS AND NOW YOU WILL SEE THE ‘FEMALES’ the “OUR” that was present with God the Father when he created a man and a woman…this where the LORD REVEALED TO ME “WHO” WAS THERE IN THE BEGINNING NEXT TO HIM AT CREATION:
    LOOK FOR EACH OF THE 7 SPIRITS AS YOU READ THE WORD….IN PROVERBS, THE BOOK OF WISDOM: WHAT GENDER WERE THEY CALLED?
    Pro 2:2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
    Pro 2:3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
    Pro 2:4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
    Pro 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
    Pro 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
    Pro 2:7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.
    Pro 2:10 When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
    Pro 2:11 Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
    Pro 2:12 To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
    Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
    Pro 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
    Pro 3:8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.
    Pro 3:13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
    Pro 3:14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.
    Pro 3:15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.
    Pro 3:16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.
    Pro 3:17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.
    Pro 3:18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.
    Pro 3:19 The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
    Pro 3:20 By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew.
    Pro 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
    Pro 4:6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
    Pro 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
    Pro 4:8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her.
    Pro 4:9 She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.
    Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
    Pro 8:2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
    Pro 8:3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
    Pro 8:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
    Pro 8:5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
    Pro 8:6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
    Pro 8:7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
    Pro 8:8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
    Pro 8:9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
    Pro 8:10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
    Pro 8:11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
    Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
    Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
    Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
    Pro 8:18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
    Pro 8:19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
    Pro 8:20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
    Pro 8:21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
    HERE IT IS CONFIRMING WHO WAS THERE IN THE BEGINNING:
    THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, NOT 3 MEN…
    Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
    Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
    Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
    Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
    Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
    Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
    Pro 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
    Pro 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
    Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
    Pro 8:31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
    Pro 8:32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
    Pro 8:33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
    Pro 8:34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
    Pro 8:35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
    Pro 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

    THAT IS THE 7 BRANCHES ON THE MENORAH, THE REAL ‘TREE OF LIFE’…THE 7 SPIRITS OF GOD….HE IS THE FULLNESS OF WISDOM, COUNSEL, MIGHT, KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING, FEAR OF THE LORD…HE IS THE GREAT ‘I AM’
    THAT WAS WHO WAS THERE IN THE BEGINNING WITH HIM WHEN HE CREATED AND SPOKE INTO EXISTENCE MALE AND FEMALE FROM A RIB.

    Pro 2:1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;
    Pro 3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:
    Pro 3:35 The wise shall inherit glory: but shame shall be the promotion of fools.
    Pro 4:1 Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding.
    Pro 4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law.
    Pro 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.

    WHAT ARE HIS NEW COMMANDMENTS TO US? WHY DID PETER AND PAUL BAPTIZE IN JESUS NAME ONLY AND NOT IN THE TITLES FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST? BECAUSE ALL JEWS KNOW GOT IS NOT LIKE A PIZZA DIVIDED UP INTO SECTIONS. THEY LIVE BY DEUT. 6:4 GOD IS ONE.
    Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
    Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
    Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
    Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
    Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

    NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE WAS EVER BAPTIZED IN FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST, IT WAS NEVER DONE THE WAY THE PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLICS DO IT. WHY? BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST IS THE FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST. That is why you only need to go thru HIM TO GET TO THE FATHER.
    amen…..ACTS 2:38 IS THE SHORTER VERSION OF 10, 11, 16, 19 AND 22. SAME MESSAGE, SAME COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, GET PROVERBS, GET WISDOM AND GET SAVED….ALL YOU BELIEVERS BE READY FOR THE RAPTURE.

  • AKA GLORY

    We don’t need any other books to describe the Holy Ghost or who God is, only the KJV is the source you need. THat is how I got into trouble reading all those other books.
    Once you get baptized in the HOLY GHOST, you will have more understanding….
    IT IS a SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCE, You are still in the WORLD, He is in the world, but not PART of the World. STICK to the bible…it is the ONLY WRITTEN WORD OF GOD.
    The reason you need OTHER BOOKS is because you don’t like WHAT HE WROTE AND COMMANDED YOU TO DO….

  • AKA GLORY

    David, for some of us it takes a little longer….I was ignorant of the Word for 34 years, until I started to Ask the LORD for more of Him. He revealed to me he was the I AM. In two weeks I turned from all the OTHER BOOKS, my whole dining room table was full, I read the entire Encyclopedia Britannica to find out WHO GOD WAS. If you fall to your knees and die at the cross, to your self and all tradition, just get honest and seek HIM and stop fighting with HIM, you to can have HIS Grace and MERCY in 10 min. I have seen it over and over. UNLESS you got drug, alcohol or other addictions, backsliders take longer, ..depending on how much junk you need to unload from your heart, bitterness…etc. IT will HONEST TO GOD TAKE ONLY 10 MIN, MAYBE LESS. It took me 34 years to get to that 10 minutes though. Once you really want HIM with your heart, HE WILL FILL YOU,,,you could be speaking in tongues for a few minutes and sometimes up to three days, that happened to a friend of mine, who doubted the Word of God and testimonies and she could not speak English for literally 3 days. We all had a good laugh. He is very good and He is waiting for you to repent. You can do the baptism in Jesus Name after you get filled. The order does not MATTER. Remember it was sister with the miracle healing from cancer thirty years ago, that led me from satan and psychics and mysticism and trinity and junk into the Arms of the LIVING WORD in Acts 2:38. A miracle….a testimony….you cannot change it….watch http://www.cfcky.com and you finally get it…don’t stop advertising for the LORD.

  • AKA GLORY

    David, don’t worry, Paul murdered and jailed tons of Christians saved by Acts 2:38, the message PETER gave to the CHURCH for Salvation from sin. Then he had a Damascus road experience and was filled with the HOLY GHOST and baptised under the water in Jesus NAME and preached the rest of his life the same message given to the JEWS, he preached to the Gentiles in Acts 19:1-6; 22:16.
    Lord knows you don’t need another book, need to finish reading the BOOK King James Version of the HOLY BIBLE you don’t need another word …just his….

  • David Kaus

    Witchcraft In The Church

    Ecstatic Tongues, and other Mystical “10” minute “experiences.”

    Galatians 3:1-2 KJV

    3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

    Who hath bewitched you ??? cast a spell on and gain control over (someone) by magic.

    That you should not obey the truth !!! The objective Word of God is truth not some one’s subjective 10 minute experience.

    Before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been

    evidently (plainly or obviously; in a way that is clearly seen or understood.)

    set forth crucified among you ?

    THIS ONLY WOULD I LEARN OF YOU… aka glory or anyone else ???

    Received ye the Spirit by the works of the Law (or any work, or 10 minute self induced experience)

    OR

    BY THE HEARING OF FAITH ???

    The Holy Spirit is only received by the hearing of faith in the crucified Jesus Christ who shed His Blood for your sins, as Galatians 3:1,2 tells us plainly.

    Any thing else, especially a 10 minute self induced exercise, no matter what it is, no matter how spiritual it may seem, will produce another spirit.

    That spirit can be seen in the religious arrogance of those who are obsessed with pushing their “experience” on to others who know not the truth.

    This self induced practice is witchcraft, a bewitching that takes control over a person’s mind.

    Nothing is a gift of God if you generate yourself.

    Salvation and the indwelling Holy Spirit is a gift of God

    Not of works lest any one should boast.

    If anyone has listened to “aka glory” there can be no doubt in your mind that all she has ever done is boast about her self induced 10 minute experience in which she has received another spirit.

    Stay away from her church and her obsession to bewitch you into the same delusion of mind.

    • AKA GLORY

      YOu are a Jehovah Witness? am i right? YOu have the same teaching they have been taught…I feel sorry for you?
      What church do you attend? Where are your testimonies and healings and miracles, post some for us to see that God is alive in your church? Where is the church website? Let us all take a peek at the Church you belong to David? Can you tell us? Satan is the accuser of the brethren. so far that is all you have been doing.

      Give us a good report…..do you have any? Rebellion to the Word of God is witchcraft, because the rebellion is sin.
      Are you denying that the 120 were baptized and filled with the HOLY GHOST and spoke in unknown tongues. IT says that in the JW bible i read it.

  • AKA GLORY

    DAVID AND PAUL AND WHOEVER ELSE THAT STILL NEEDS THE BAPTISM OF THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST….
    If God could create the world in six days….all of it and humans, all the animals and every tree and plant and animal in six days….why do you think it should take you any longer than 10 MINUTES for him to fill you with the HOLY GHOST, the living power of God. He is not slow….you are …..
    He can make it happen in 1 second or take as long as you want…..He is GOD….it is you that is holding HIM BACK, not HIM. You keep dragging this HOLY GHOST baptism on and on and on…..for PETE’s sake…just get it. All you need to do is repent….that is all he requires for you to die to self, pride and junk…and HE will fill you. If you need longer than six days…..ha ….then so be it…..it all depends on your heart and how hard it is…..you have to change your mind, that is repentance, and then change your heart and HE CAN FILL IT…..in less than 10 min. He is not asking for a whole lot…
    SIX DAYS HE CREATED THE WORLD…..WHAT IS 10 MIN TO SALVATION……finding a baptismal and someone to baptize you in JESUS NAME will take you longer than getting filled with the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST, because you will require the water to be heated to bath temperature no doubt.

  • AKA GLORY

    the bible STATES to baptize in the NAME of the Father Son and Holy Ghost. so what NAME did they use when the disciples all baptized in water in the bible? I ask you again, what NAME DID THE DISCIPLES USE WHEN THEY BAPTIZED in the water in the bible…I ask you AGAIN WHAT ‘NAME’ did they use to baptize in the water in the bible. What NAME did they COMMAND US TO USE IN THE BIBLE…..don’t give me the CATHOLIC FORM OF SPRINKLING….the pagans who REMOVED THE NAME …..what was the NAME? used six times to baptize 3000 the first day of CHURCH and 5000 later in ACTS. What NAME DID PAUL USE FOR THE 12 GENTILES IN ACTS 19 AND WHAT WAS PAUL’S LAST WORDS TO US in Acts…..Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    If you find it in the bible, let me know and I will correct the WORD of God….where is the scripture …Matthew went down to Jerusalem with the others and and he was baptized in what NAME…..read the verse Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto ME in heaven and in earth. == Acts 4:10-12…THERE IS NO OTHER NAME BY WHICH WE MAY BE SAVED. saved from what? no other NAME…..JESUS CHRIST.
    NO trinity baptisms in the bible exist, why? Because God is NOT 3 PERSONS, in the bible…or ever….Trinity is man-made stuff from the pope. Ask your Jewish friends, they never believed God was a person…ever.

  • David Kaus

    Stay away from “aka glory,” and her church. She is just like a Jehovah’s Witness. She preaches another Jesus, one who is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit combined.

    She is in a delusion to believe a lie because she did NOT receive the Holy Spirit according to Galatians 3:1,2, but got it though her own works. She is bewitched as Galatians 3 tells us because she loves a lie and not the truth.

    She got her “other spirit” and another Jesus from her “10” minute experience that brought forth pagan ecstatic tongues.

    She has the same anti Christ spirit as the Jehovah’s Witness do.

    Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ as the Scriptures say. This I confess to, and so do all true Christians.

  • Paul

    AKA GLORY,
    “Because God is NOT 3 PERSONS, in the bible…or ever… Ask your Jewish friends, they never believed God was a person…ever.”

    Yea, and that is why they are lost and going to hell.
    They never believed Jesus was God in the flesh or that he was sinless.
    You write so much and say so little.
    I’m beginning to believe God has give you over to a reprobate mind and you can’t be reasoned with.
    Water baptism has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with getting, keeping or helping to seal a persons salvation.
    The only baptism that means anything scriptually, is being baptized INTO CHRIST’S DEATH, BURIAL AND RESURRECTION and THAT is done in the spirit and is the work of the Holy Spirit. (Eph. 4:30)
    NOT someone dunking you into a tub of H2O repeating some secret formula of names that if you don’t get in the proper order you go to hell.
    You are a heretic.
    ‘Three in one, one in three and the one in the middle died for me.’

    • aka glory

      JEWS ARE NOT GOING TO HELL. THEY BELIEVE IN THE SAME MESSIAH WE BELIEVE IN, THEY JUST DON’T BELIEVE HE CAME AT THE TIME IN 33AD. We are both watching for a coming Messiah. They will think it is the first time, we know it is the second time. The DO BELIEVE IN THE MESSIAH, He was called JEHOVAH, JAH in the OT. the “I AM” and JESUS is the Greek in the NT for the “I AM”. GOD never said he was the ‘WE ARE’. The roman catholics made up the TRINITY FROM THE TRIMURTI From Hinduisim.
      If you ask the LORD HE will tell you who he is. He really will. He is ONE, there IS no other God beside HIM. Study Isaiah and you will see the truth. Is. 9:6 JESUS IS GOD. JOHN 10 and 14 Jesus said I and the Father are ONE, He is in me. The Father is the WORD, the CREATOR, HE speaks and things can be made from HIS VOICE, he doesn’t need a limited worldly body, a person cannot speak and create a world in six days. You can barely get some persons to take out the trash. The HOLY GHOST is the SPIRIT OF GOD, the POWER behind the WORD, HE cannot be a person and be fully a person inside of a person. LUKE 4:1. Jesus was full of the HOLY GHOST. I am full of the HOLY GHOST, research “FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST”. a GHOST IS A GHOST is a SPIRIT. That is why Mary remained a virgin, if either the Father or the Holy Ghost were persons Mary could not stay a virgin at conception IMPOSSIBLE. She was impregnated with a Ghost. ‘
      If the HG and the Father were persons, when were they born, when did they die and what are their names?
      TRINITY CAME FROM PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, IT IS NOT TRUTH. it is CONFUSION FROM ROMANS CHP. ONE. They lowered God to an mortal three person deal. It creates confusion, WHO do you pray to? Jesus said you can only come to the Father by me…..JESUS IS THE ONLY PERSON OF GOD, THAT WAS BORN, DIED AND WAS GIVEN A NAME. JESUS CHRIST WAS THE WORD IN THE BEGINNING, THE SON IN REDEMPTION, AND THE HOLY GHOST IN RESURRECTION. He said i am sending the HOLY GHOST back in my name. He was reveal to you that he is ONE. HE IS THE “I AM” and not the three kings. There is only ONE THRONE of GLORY… The right hand is the RIGHT HAND OF POWER begin in Exodus 15 and search the word POWER on e-sword lookup. JEsus is seated at the RIGHT HAND OF POWER, that is why he told MATTHEW, all power is given unto me and baptise all IN MY NAME……not my office titles that have no power. Only HIS WORD IS TRUTH. ONLY SCRIPTURE IS TRUTH. all the rest are lies of satan to deceive and steal the truth. GO BY THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE AND YOU CAN BE SAVED. NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE WAS EVER BAPTISED IN TRINITY TITLES. GIVE ME SCRIPTURE AND VERSE AND I WILL CHANGE WHAT I PREACH AND TEACH.
      NO ONE EVER SAID IN THE BIBLE ‘GOD IS THREE PERSONS IN A TRINITY GODHEAD’, the POPE vomited that lie all over us.
      the bible says JESUS CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH, ONLY HIM, NOT THE FATHER TITLE, NOT THE HOLY GHOST TITLE, JESUS CHRIST IS THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST. THAT IS THE NAME OF GOD: JESUS CHRIST, HE IS ONE.
      Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
      Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
      Col 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
      GOD IS THREE PARTS, NOT PERSONS…..HE IS THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST…THAT IS WHY HE IS THE ONE GOD, THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE FIRST AND THE LAST….HE IS ONE AND WAS ONLY ONE PERSON. JOHN 3:16.
      THAT ONE PERSON WAS CREATED BY THE FATHER AND THE HOLY GHOST TO FULFILL GENESIS 11-17 TO GIVE US A NEW AND BETTER COVENANT OF SALVATION LEARNED IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, Which could only begin AFTER THE TESTATOR DIED ON THE CROSS. Read Hebrews now….Salvation from sin began down in Jerusalem per JESUS. SALVATION BEGAN WITH PETER:
      Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
      Luk 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
      Luk 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
      Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
      Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
      Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

      SALVATION BY THE BOOK SAYS: IT BEGAN IN JERUSALEM AND THEY WERE TO BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST IN A FEW DAYS AND WHEN THEY WERE BAPTIZED THEY WOULD RECEIVE POWER …TO SPEAK IN NEW TONGUES, CAST OUT DEVILS AND LAY HANDS ON THE SICK
      How do I know this is the ONLY TRUTH TO SALVATION FROM SIN…BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT JESUS CHRIST SAID, I DID IT. OBEYED THE COMMANDMENTS AND IT CAME TO PASS AND IT HAPPENED TO ME….. and i can speak in new tongues, never learned, i can lay hands on the sick and they recover and i can cast out demons…i have never raised the dead yet.

      Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
      Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
      Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
      Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
      Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
      Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
      Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
      Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
      Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
      Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
      Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
      Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
      Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
      Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
      Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
      Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
      Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

      GOD CANNOT LIE, CHANGE OR DIE…HIS WORD IS THE ONLY TRUTH. SO WHEN JESUS SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST AT THEIR SAVIOR….THESE SIGNS WOULD FOLLOW THEM THAT BELIEVE AND RECEIVE : THE WORD OF GOD CANNOT LIE…JESUS CANNOT LIE, …GOD CANNOT LIE AND JESUS IS GOD….AND I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR ME…NOT ASHAMED….PROOF OF WHAT HE SAID CAME TO PASS, AND IT HAS TO COME TO PASS OR IT IS NOT OF GOD…..IT IS A LIE, IF IT DOESN’T COME TO PASS….WELL ALL THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME….
      Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
      Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
      Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

      I have not raised the dead yet, unless he considers that to be those who are DEAD IN SIN, and need to be BORN AGAIN, THEN I have RAISED THE DEAD INTO A NEW LIFE THRU LEADING THEM TO THE WATER AND THE SPIRIT OF HIS PLAN OF SALVATION BACK TO THE BOOK OF ACTS…Where the DEAD IN SIN are given a new life and BORN AGAIN is a resurrection of the DEAD.
      God bless and salvation begins in Jerusalem and at the foot of the Cross….love to all…post your testimonies…i would love to hear them…

      • kelvin otieno

        He wont be coming for sinners, but for the saints, the Holy. anyone who never believes that Jesus is the son of God Can never Go to heaven.

  • David Kaus

    The accuser of the brethren is the devil, and you “aka glory” are nothing but an agent of the devil.

    You didn’t receive the Holy Spirit according to Galatians 3:1,2 did you ?

    All your testimony states that you had a 10 minute “experience,” and got a spirit you call the Holy Spirit but what Scripture calls another spirit.

    That anti Christ spirit has you testifying to another Jesus who in your psycho babble state is the same person as God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

    You reject all the great expositions of men of God filled with the Holy Spirit for your new revelations by the 10 minute spirit in you.

    You need to repent of your ungodly ways, your heresies, false doctrines, and rejection of truth.

    As another person has stated Shame, Shame on you and your arrogant, haughty, loud mouth ways.

    You don’t have any pearls to cast to anyone, any one who would think that has no discernment whatsoever.

    • aka glory

      WARNING: To everyone on this website, DAvid Kaus is a Jehovah Witness which is part of the Illuminati/Jesuit organization. He speaks as s Jehovah Witness, who are afraid of the Gift of the HOLY GHOST in the Book of Acts. I received my baptism of the Gift of the HOLY GHOST just like the 120 in the upper room, the initial baptism. the GIFT OF TONGUES in Corinthians and Galatians is NOT the initial baptism which I received 29 years ago. I have NEVER HAD THE GIFT OF TONGUES. Since it is supernatural and from God himself, and David Kaus has never RECEIVED THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST NEITHER THE GIFT OF TONGUES which are both SUPERNATURAL AND FROM GOD, He is trying to explain a SUPERNATURAL with the NATURAL MIND. No one can do this.
      David has refused to tell us where he goes to church, what faith he claims, where are his testimonies of miracles from his church or from his life when he turned to God. Where did he come from. I am NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST NOR THE TESTIMONIES. I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE BAPTISM OF THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST with the speaking in unknown tongues as Peter and Paul were not. AGAIN WARNING; DAVID KAUS IS A JEHOVAH WITNESS who are vehemently against anyone who is baptized with the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST and speaking in unknown tongues as the Spirit give the utterance. He is full of fear and anger and the JW calls my GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST witchcraft. I have witnessed to JW many many times in 29 years and their own bible in Acts 2:1-5 tells them it is a GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. The leader shrieked and ran into the other room and got on the phone to call the office because she didnt know what to do with me.
      The other person and I went thru all my bibles on the shelf and I told her when she got home, to get out her old grandma’s bible and start reading it.
      That is when I found 1 John 5:7 was first deleted from the bible, because the JW bible from satan, had deleted it and I could not figure out why it was stated correctly. The other JW gal and I searched all of my bibles, about 10 different versions and we both found that the KJV was the ONLY CORRECT VERSION THAT DID NOT DELETE SCRIPTURE.
      WARNING****UNLESS DAVID KAUS IS NOT ASHAMED OF HIS CHURCH, GIVE US THE WEBSITE OF WHERE HE ATTENDS AND WE CAN CHECK IT OUT FOR OURSELVES. AND REMEMBER ALL LIARS DO GO TO HELL, I POSTED THOSE SCRIPTURES ALREADY. ALL LIARS DO GO TO HELL AND I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST AND THE MIRACLES, HEALINGS AND DELIVERANCE FROM DEVILS/DEMONS OF DRUG ADDICTION/DEPRESSION/SUICIDE ETC ARE VIDEO TAPED AND RECORDED AT OUR CHURCH AND NOW I AM POSTING THEM TO YOUTUBE. I have the DVD of the drug deliverance. I will not put that on YOUTUBE that can be bought from the church.
      WARNING***DAVID KAUS IS A JEHOVAH WITNESS…unless proved otherwise with his church website….and testimonies.

  • aka glory

    Jehovah Witness do NOT believe in speaking in unknown tongues, they are afraid of the truth and the power of God. The JW are the only group of the ILLUMINATI that proclaims fundamental HOLY GHOST baptized Christians saved by the book of Acts is nothing but witchcraft. I know what ‘spirit’ David Kaus is of it is of JEHOVAH WITNESS who are against the WORD OF GOD. I was delivered from Unity New thought, the Occult, the Psychics and grew up with schizophrenic aunt and all sorts of demonic forces were in and around me all my life…I lived with demonic possessed people and God delivered me from the lies of the Trinity and Baptist needed more and the lies of the Roman Catholics and psychics and the occult. I was gloriously filled and baptized with the Gift of the HOLY GHOST after finding out all the lies I was in, talked to the Man of God, my new minister in the PENTECOSTAL BOOK OF ACTS church and he was delivered from heroin himself. I prayed with him and his wife and in 10 minutes, I felt the exact same rushing wind of the HOLY GHOST enter in thru my belly, into my flesh, NOT A PERSON, a GHOST entered into me and i spoke in UNKNOWN TONGUES just like he promised in the Gospels and chapter ONE AND TWO of the BOOK OF ACTS. Since GOD cannot change, lie or die, what was good for 33 AD was the same for today….and the LORD added to the church daily such as should be SAVED.

    I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THE TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. My personal testimony of being delivered from TRINITY and be baptized with the HOLY GHOST. I have evidence and I did and obeyed. The longer version to believers for Acts 2:38 is listed in chapters 8;10,11;16;19;22.

    My sister who was healed from deadly cancer in 1982 told she was to die in two weeks. Her hair never fell out. She received the baptism of the Gift of the HOLY GHOST with speaking in unknown tongues one year prior to her cancer dx. THE LORD led her to a fundamental full bible PENTECOSTAL church of the BOOK OF ACTS and THE LORD told her to get re-baptized in the water in the NAME OF JESUS. One week later she was dx with stage IV B Hodgkins disease head to foot and bone cancer and hip cancer and given two weeks to live.
    When I was depressed and suicidal and having a nervous breakdown and my ex husband was committing adultery all over the place and satan was tearing our marriage up, satan was trying to kill me, satan had me full of antidepressants and halcion and xanax, satan had me seeking worldly counsel and psychiatrists for years, satan had my daughter possessed and she was hearing and seeing things at age six and screaming in the middle of the nite, satan had my psychic husband get a sawed off shotgun and he tried to kill the psychic and her four kids and went down the main road shooting the gun at random instead, satan had me going to several psychics and the church of scientology believers were talking to me, satan had me believing the catholic / baptist trinity doctrine that God was split up into three persons, to confuse me so I would not know who to call on for help. satan kept the distraction going because if I ever found out that the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST HAD ALL POWER ALL OVER HIM, HE WOULD BE IN TROUBLE AND NOT ME.

    You know the rest of the testimony of salvation from satan, my sister was delivered and healed from satan and cancer and is still alive today. I was delivered and saved by the same BOOK OF ACTS SALVATION IN CHAP. TWO that my sister received and I am still alive today, spreading the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST TO THE LOST AND BELIEVERS AND TO THOSE WHO ARE DEAD IN SIN AND LIES AND DECEPTION AND WHO REFUSE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST HE GAVE TO US IN THE BOOK OF ACTS STARTING ON 1:1 TO 22:16. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ and what He has done for me.
    I go to http://www.cfcky.com. That is my church, my Pastor Tommy Bates was baptized with the GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST when he was five years old. My son got it when he was six years old, my teacher was a six generation BIBLE BELIEVING FUNDAMENTALIST PENTECOSTAL BOOK OF ACTS TEACHER. GOD sent me the best.

    So David Kaus and PAUL where do you go to church? What is your faith and deliverance from satan testimonies? Tell us a little about how GOD SAVED YOU FROM HELL AND LIES? We are waiting, I cannot wait to check out your websites…and truth ….tell us please…I am NOT ASHAMED of the Gospel of christ and my testimony of being delivered from satan.

  • aka glory

    Jehovah Witness stay 900 yards from any tongue talking Pentecostal filled Christians, they freak and attack all those who speak in unknown tongues. they fear and are afraid of the WORD OF GOD AND ANY BIBLE BELIEVING SAVED CHRISTIAN…JW hate those who speak in UNKNOWN TONGUES. Satan does too…meet him and his cohorts all the time during drug deliverances…satan hates my guts for praying many people to the baptism of the HOLY GHOST with the speaking in unknown tongues in minutes after they are delivered. Satan hates me a lot….cause I GOT THE POWER….I KNOW THE POWER…
    by the BLOOD ON THE CROSS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST….DAvid tell us where you go to church…..

    by the BLOOD ON THE CROSS IN THE NAME OF JESUS….TELL US THE TRUTH OF WHO YOU FOLLOW DAVID KAUS…TELL US IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST CONFESS THE THE TRUTH….IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, BY THE BLOOD ON THE CROSS….

    what church do you belong to DAVID KAUS???

  • aka glory

    The JEWS do not accept the CHRISTIANITY today, because many Christians follow Roman Pagan Hindu Vedic Trinity/ Trimurti. That is why JEWS do not accept the CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE that was created in 325AD. It is not the fact of the Messiah, it is the fact that way too many CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST swallowed the lie of satan, the Roman deception that the ONE GOD OF DEUTERONOMY and of the 10 COMMANDMENTS the God whose NAME WAS JEHOVAH or JAH in Heb. in the OT, which is the “I AM” when translated. Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Isa 37:16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, EVEN THOU ALONE, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.
    Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth THE HEAVENS ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF;
    2Ki 19:15 And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, THOU ART THE GOD, EVEN THOU ALONE, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
    2Ki 19:19 Now therefore, O LORD our God, I beseech thee, save thou us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art THE LORD GOD, EVEN THOU ONLY.
    Job 9:8 WHICH ALONE SPREADETH OUT THE HEAVENS, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
    Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, ART LORD ALONE; THOU HAST MADE HEAVEN, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all.
    Psa_83:18 That men may know that thou, WHOSE NAME ALONE IS JEHOVAH,
    art the most high over all the earth.
    Psa 86:10 For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: THOU ART GOD ALONE.
    Psa 136:4 To him WHO ALONE DOETH GREAT WONDERS: for his mercy endureth for ever.
    Psa 148:13 Let them praise the name of the LORD: FOR HIS NAME ALONE IS EXCELLENT; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

    I have to explain to all my JEWISH friends that i am not Baptist, I am not Catholic and that i do not believe the LIE OF TRINITY of the ROMANS added to Christianity in 325AD. Then after a sigh of relief, I can witness to the JEW about the saviour ISAIAH talked about, the PROMISE that Abraham talked about in Genesis 11-17 and that fundamental Bible Believing Pentecostal CHRISTIANS go back to the Book of Acts Salvation given to the JEWS FIRST and then to the Gentiles and lead them to the truth of the Savior in JESUS CHRIST who is the ONLY GOD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND HIS NAME IS ONE.

    That is why many JEWS will not listen to christians….because they KNOW GOD IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN THREE PERSONS. That the original Christians only baptized in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST as the LORD commanded us to do. The OT told the JEWS constantly about the NAME OF THE LORD, DAvid took down Goliath in the NAME OF THE LORD, in Heb. it is JEHOVAH OR JAH, the “I AM” and in Greek it is JESUS the “I AM” and in Heb. today Yeshua, Jehoshua. ‘I AM SALVATION’. in heb.
    NEVER A THREE PERSON GOD…IS IN THE BIBLE, so if you teach and believe the ROMAN CATHOLIC TRINITY DOCTRINE, the JEW will walk away from any testimony you have about JESUS IS YOUR SAVIOR, because they know you think there is three of HIM. They are not easily fooled as the Gentiles are, because JEWS have been raised by the ONE GOD for centuries way before CHRIST. They know the truth of ONE GOD…..Romans don’t…..

  • aka glory

    THE JEWS BELIEVE IN ONE GOD and know the 7 spirits of God : the IMAGE OF GOD IS:Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
    Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
    READ PROV. 2,3,4,8 and read about the spirits of God that were there in the beginning. These were the plural OUR IMAGE, God was talking about the Spirits of wisdom, etc. They are called SHE in PRoverbs.
    Rev 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
    Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
    Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
    Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    ON the other hand, the ROMAN satan led pagans created a NEW GOD, THE TRINITY THREE PERSON JUNK FROM MITHRA ETC.
    THE SAME GROUP WHO REMOVED THE BOOK OF ACTS SALVATION TO THE JEWS AND GENTILES AND REPLACED IT WITH LIES.

    Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
    Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
    Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
    Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
    Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
    Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
    Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
    Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

  • Dan

    I came back to this article and was amazed. Why is nobody talking about the topic of the article? This is Huge.

    How blatant does Lucifer have to be to get Christians in a frenzy ? Well obviously our attention span is surprisingly short.

    The Pope has just made the statement for all to see. Christianity ,Buddhism , Islam and Judaism are all the same!

    Hey, so has something changed ? Is the passage ( No one comes to the father but through me) wrong? Just to point out one

    obvious difference that makes it impossible to combine any of them to Christianity.

    Wow, doesn’t Buddhism have many deities just for starters ? Hey, now I will defend Judaism because It is my belief

    there is still much to learn from GOD’s chosen without confusing the issues that separate Christians and Jews. And no I

    don’t want to argue about it. As for Islam don’t get me started ! How could something that came from the seed of Abraham

    be so polluted ?

    People we should be be encouraging each other to get ready for what is coming. Have you started preparing your

    food stocks? How self sufficient are you? Are you connected with others around you in case something crazy happens

    and we need to come together in a safe house or place? Geoff didn’t do an article on the Jewish boy who had a

    near death experience but there is a link to it on one of his articles . This boy’s story should be at the very least

    talked about.

    Blessings!

  • David Kaus

    I told you to repent you ungodly loud mouth woman.

    I belong to a church that follows the Scriptures, and fundamental sound doctrine which mostly has a fundamental Baptise position, and can discern the delusions of the Charismatic/Pentecostal experience orientated churches, and people.

    Therefore once again you have proven yourself a LIAR with your false accusation, with that anti Christ spirit, that you got at a 10 minute “experience,” of which there is no support of in Scripture.

    You deny Galatians 3:1,2. Which testifies how the Holy Spirit is given. You are a heretic, and an apostate.

    You love the teachings of Catholic priest because you have the same anti Christ spirit.

    You deny the teachings of godly fundamental expositioners because your anti Christ spirit hates the truth.

    You reject all the Scriptural truth I’ve given you because of that other spirit you got in your “10” minute occult manifestation.

    You are already in a unity with the Whore Church but don’t realize it. When Charismatic Catholics come knocking on your Church door and manifest the same ecstatic tongues that you do you will have no choice but to accept them and join hands with them, for to do other wise would mean that you would have to deny your own delusional experience.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that you have testified to lying signs, wonders, miracles. Your testimony is ALWAYS that “I” did this, and “I” can do that, God is never glorified in any thing you do. And He certainly rejects that other Jesus you have acknowledge. All your “I’s” come from the source of one who willed to be like the Most High.

    God gives a woman, a godly woman, a meek and quiet spirit which to Him is of great price.

    He doesn’t given them a spirit to preach or teach, nor to usurp authority over a man.

    You have an arrogant, haughty, proud. loud mouth, feminist spirit that God hates.

    You are certainly aligned with the spirit of the Jehovah’s Witness which is the spirit of anti Christ, and which professes another Jesus.

    Unless you turn from all of which I’ve mentioned above I am not going to respond to any of your heretical, hysterical, apostate nonsense. But I will continue to warn others about you wanting to seduce them with your religious, and dangerous doctrines, and practices.

    I’ve have gotten into discussions with people who have been caught in the error of the Jehovah’s Witness Church. Some of them are very sincere people who have been led astray by the false doctrines of that organization. I have seen a profound impact in the lives of many of them when I hold up the Scriptures to them to refute their error. At least I’ll give them this much, truth is recognized by them when they have Scripture given to them that is rightly divided. You don’t even have that ability.

    If you need help I would be glad to try to help you. If you want to stay where you are that is your choice, and you will pay the consequences for that decision.

  • David Kaus

    Skywatcher, how’s the weather where you are ?

    The last time I answered Paul I left some soup on the stove before I got on the computer. When I saw Paul’s post to me I got involved with answering it……and………………well, I did get to enjoy some of it.

    Let me check the stove before I start answering your post. Be back in a moment.

    OK the steamed broccoli is turned off……….but I put some water on for tea….dum, da, dum, dum.

    By the way are/were you a woman preacher ? I may have gotten it wrong but some where I believe you let that information be known on a post that you are a woman. If so how do you justify being so presumptuous to take authority over men in a congregation when Paul clearly says he would not suffer that to be done ? All the qualifications in Scripture for a pastor are for men. I sincerely hope that that is not something you have decided that you can decide to subtract from Scripture. Please don’t be offended, I ask in sincerely.

    If I understood another one of your post to Paul correctly you stated that you, with a conformation of the Holy Spirit, believe you can, by your reasoning., decide to subtract things from Scripture. That is a gnostic view of Jesus Christ, and Scripture, one the Alexandrian Jews had that brought forth the corrupt Greek text. Please tell me I misunderstood this.

    When I stated that God is not the author of confusion I was referring to the fact that Scripture states that tongues shall cease when that which is perfect would come. Teleios (perfect) in 1 Corinthians 13:10 is used in a neuter form, it can not refer to Jesus Christ at His second coming. The would take a masculine form. The one things I saw clearly from a reading of one of Bullinger’s works was how incredibly accurate, and precise Scripture is grammatically. God does not violate the rules of grammar. A lot of confusion in Scripture can be cleared up by following proper use of grammar. Dr D.A. Waite the president of the Dean Burgon society, and who pastor’s a church, and who has studied, and taught Greek for over 50 years confirms what I have stated above.

    At the time 1 Corinthians was written there were only 4 New Testament books available. The Church did not have all the council of God, and God gave the Church gifts to lead them till that which was perfect had come, Scripture, which would take a neuter form of perfect to describe it.

    The completion of Scripture is totally sufficient to mature every Christian in the doctrine of Jesus Christ. The gift of knowledge, not knowledge itself, and prophecy, a putting forth, not a fore telling, and the gift of tongues would cease when Scripture was completed.

    If that Dutch man needed to know something from God he could have been told it in the language that church spoke. There simply was no need for an unknown tongue to be used.

    Trying to confirm that this event was verified because some “hush” came over the church is nothing but a subjective emotional evaluation. We are not to judge things by our emotions when we have the clear guide lines of Scripture. Were back to Eve now letting her emotions over rule God’s Word.

    A salvation experience is based on the preaching of Jesus Christ crucified, and faith in Jesus Christ. There is a Scriptural substance to that faith, even though the evidence is not seen by others. Where no Scriptural substance can be found to back up an emotional experience, it must be rejected no matter how convincing it may be.

    As for miracles today. I certainly do believe in them. I have prayed for a woman crying in desperation because she could not endure the suffering she was going through because of her diabetes. My compassion for her compelled me to pray that Jesus Christ would heal her. I left her house and went for a walk. As I passed by her house later to go to mine she called out to me that she had been totally healed and had enjoyed a breakfast the likes of which she could not have before with no after effects. All her suffering had left her. Jesus Christ had healed her.

    Just one more testimony. A woman in my bible class had been enduring pain behind her eye for some time. She was at the point where she couldn’t pay attention to anything because of the pain, and was planning to see a doctor. I asked her if she would like some prayer for her eye, and she responded, yes. So I prayed with her to Jesus Christ about her eye. It was just a simple direct prayer. We continued talking and then after several minutes she interrupted me and said, David all the pain is completely gone. Jesus Christ had healed her. Praise the wonderful name of Jesus Christ, Hallelujah !!! Amen.

    What I stated about a heretic being rejected after the first, or second admonition was not a naive statement but exactly in line with Scripture. If you still disagree that is your choice to do so. I’ve explained an objective/subjective Salvation experience above.

    I did a continuous two year study on 1 Corinthians 12,13,and 14 a few years back on top of what I had already studied on the topic of tongues. I was dealing with a rather large church at that time that had several individuals caught up in this manifestation. 1 Corinthians 13:10 was one verse I had much difficulty with. Nothing I read, or viewed by others set just right. So I left it hanging there till something hit. In my mind at that time I strongly leaned to Jesus Christ at His second coming being that which was perfect. This of course meant that the gifts of tongues(real languages, not the ecstatic junk, and not some bogus, unscriptural language of angles), knowledge, and prophecy ( a putting forth, not a fore telling) were still operational, and given as gifts from God. As such though they would still be gifts, and not something worked at to get, and still not a baptism of the Holy Spirit because Tongues were not given to everyone by the Holy Spirit but He gave it to whom He willed to give the gift to.

    I was locked into my thinking on this and I would not be moved from what I believed to be correct unless I had evidence to show me where I was wrong, clear evidence, that I could not refute, and was convinced of.

    I could not refute the grammatical neuter gender word perfect, and still can’t. Now rationally, to back up such conviction, I asked myself what need would God have to tell the Church that tongues would cease if that was going to happen after the second coming of Jesus Christ ??? That would be a no brainer. The church would not need any instruction to alert it to the fact that tongues would cease then. Who would even care about that gift at that time, or see any necessity for it.

    With all the Scriptural evidence I had it clearly told me that it would only be confusion for God to even occasionally let that manifestation take place today. There simply is no need for that manifestation in the Church today. Why would a person even come into a church today that didn’t speak their language ? Now I’ll give you this, if that extreme condition ever did take place, and a person was desperately seeking God, and decided to come into that church for help, certainly God could have some one speak a message of Salvation in another language to the saving of that soul. It would have to be a desperate situation. God originally gave the gift for a specific purpose for the church, but that would not stop Him from supplying help for a desperate need in such a manner IF it was necessary, in my opinion.

    We must be careful not to give credit to satan for something God has done, and conversely, we must not give credit to God for something satan has done !!!

    I think a lot of people are intimidated from denouncing something said to have come from God because for one they can not refute it Scripturally, and two, they are afraid to offend God if it is thought to be coming from Him as others around them are saying.

    In case you are wondering, do I believe you are a child of God………..absolutely. I could see that after a few of your post.

    So God bless, Skywatcher

    Sincerely, David.

    • Paul

      David,
      I believe you and I are on the same page concerning sign gifts, miracles, tongues etc. God is done with them. They served their purpose. Satan can mimic signs but he can not eradicate God’s word. “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” Anyone not believing this needs to pray for understanding about this.

      • David Kaus

        You are exactly right Paul. The evidence in Scripture is very clear about why the gift of tongues was given and how it was to be use, and to whom.

        Scripture also states that tongues would cease, and it’s use was likened to being a child. The full Scriptures, as you have so clearly stated, are sufficient for the maturing of the Body of Christ.

        Even if God were for some reason to give a message to some one today, it would be in a language he understood. Why would there be a need for some one to give a person a message in another language ? An event like this would certainly not be God trying to validate the gift of tongues which Scripture tells us have ceased with the completion of Scripture. That would be confusion. God is not the author of confusion.

        Outside of the extraordinary events of bringing in the New Covenant and validating it with signs, wonders, and miracles, what real need is there for the gift of tongues today ???

        Even the excessive use of them in Paul’s time was rebuked, and the Holy Spirit gave strict guide lines for their use. Paul even encouraged people who had this gift to rather prophesy for the edification of the Church.

        So how unbiblical is all of this today ??? Especially when some one proclaims that 100 or more people burst out with “tongues” all at once in a congregation ! How unbiblical can you get ???

        Remember Josiah ? I’m sure you do. What a godly king he was. What reformation he brought to Israel. What dedication to God. Yet, when he sincerely went against the king of Egypt in battle, and was warned not to do so, he was killed. You can be sincere yet still violate God’s Word. And that will always bring disasterous results.

    • Skywatcher

      Hi there, my brother, David Kaus! The weather here was fine, a tad bit cold, wind chill of -14 C. Not exactly beach weather! 🙂

      I had responded to your last post to me, in detail, a friend called, asked me to look something up on the net, and I lost my reply! It was almost done, so here goes again! “Tribulation worketh patience”! You and I know that is NOT the G.T.!

      Thank you, for your cuisine chuckle, as your preface! I sensed the spirit of gentleness and meekness in your reply, so PLEASE, realize I’m responding with the same spirit of gentleness and meekness!

      First of all, to quell your fears, I’m your brother in Christ. So, that is out of the way, let’s launch out into the deep. Da dum da dum…(Jaws music here)

      You said, “If I understood another one of your post to Paul correctly you stated that you, with a conformation of the Holy Spirit, believe you can, by your reasoning., decide to subtract things from Scripture.”

      MERCIFUL!!! I would never say such a blasphemous or heretical thing as that! I think you’ve got me confused with some heretical poster, whom we’ve both reprimanded with Scripture as of late. Her teaching was…well, let’s leave it at that.

      You said, “When I stated that God is not the author of confusion I was referring to the fact that Scripture states that tongues shall cease when that which is perfect would come. Teleios (perfect) in 1 Corinthians 13:10 is used in a neuter form, it can not refer to Jesus Christ at His second coming. The would take a masculine form.”

      I believe the operative word we should be looking at is “that”, which would then meet the criteria you have laid out. “That” is NOT referring to the person of Christ, but rather, His millennial reign (object). Isa. 65: 25 backs the concept of “perfect” with absolute and Spirit-inspired precision,

      “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.”

      The Jews (like us today) were longing for that time to come! They were sick of fighting wars, being persecuted, etc.

      You said, “The completion of Scripture is totally sufficient to mature every Christian in the doctrine of Jesus Christ.”

      I totally agree!

      You said, “The gift of knowledge, not knowledge itself, and prophecy, a putting forth, not a fore telling, and the gift of tongues would cease when Scripture was completed.”

      Can you please provide me some of that good “objective” Scripture to back that teaching with?

      I agree, tongues, prophecy, etc. will cease! They will NOT be needed at that time! It will be “PERFECT” peace and tranquility. Christ is ruling supreme here, and Satan and his influences will be gone! In fact, I believe we’ll be speaking Hebrew, and no phony charismatic kook will have to “teach” it to us either! 🙂

      You said, “If that Dutch man needed to know something from God he could have been told it in the language that church spoke. There simply was no need for an unknown tongue to be used.”

      Again, let me remind you, that didn’t happen in a church; it was in a university auditorium. Yes, I agree, God could’ve arranged it that way, but He didn’t. Perhaps God wanted to “do it” in this manner, to prove that it was really God speaking to him, and not a fleshly spirit. Perhaps, the Lord allowed this to happen in this way to be a witness to unbelievers. Let me tell you, even as a believer, that really bolstered my faith! I’ll be honest, my brother, I don’t understand why God operates as He does all the time. I cannot understand why He heals some and not others. I can only go with what I have to work with. Sometimes, it just seems to me that, “God’s ways are higher than man’s”.

      The recipient did give the interpretation in broken English, and it was a personal message for him. Therefore, I nor anybody else had any reason or need to remember what was actually said to him. Honestly, I was so overjoyed to see this man be ministered to in such a way, that I was busy giving God glory and praise.

      You said, “Trying to confirm that this event was verified because some “hush” came over the church is nothing but a subjective emotional evaluation.”

      Your premise wouldn’t hold up in a court of law.:) There was no emotion in this OBSERVATION at all, until we heard the interpretation. We were expecting God to move by His Spirit, and He marvelously didn’t let us down! I wasn’t trying to confirm this event at all. I was just mentioning another component of the event. Have you ever had a bunch of kids that you wanted to make quiet down? It’s quite a job. You’ve seen it in school, where a teacher has quite a time to get 25 kids to be perfectly silent. There were over 3,000 people here in this audience, and the hush was instant, immediate, and simultaneous! The music and everything stopped all at once! It would take days to rehearse such an event and then, there would probably still be one straggling noise maker, with that last syllable! This was God!

      You said, “We are not to judge things by our emotions when we have the clear guide lines of Scripture…Where no Scriptural substance can be found to back up an emotional experience, it must be rejected no matter how convincing it may be.”

      AMEN! AMEN! and AMEN!!! I couldn’t agree with you more! We were doing everything according to Scripture! We were singing and praising God, in one accord. You are absolutely correct about judging things based upon emotions! Thank God, I had grown up under the teaching of a young pastor in his late 20’s, who was godly and God-fearing! He taught us that we are NEVER to base anything upon our emotions/feelings, because they are fickle! Our faith and experience(s) must be based upon the Word of God, or it isn’t of God! He also taught us to avoid the teachings of the “crazy charismatics”, who operated on pure emotionalism, and NOT upon God’s Word! He was sooooo right! At that time, we could never have imagined just how ridiculously crazy and heretical they would become! We were righteously and perhaps sanctimoniously proud that we were NOT of that strain.

      You said, “I was locked into my thinking on this and I would not be moved from what I believed to be correct unless I had evidence to show me where I was wrong, clear evidence, that I could not refute, and was convinced of.”

      You’re still “locked” in your thinking, but I won’t hold that against you. That’s between you and our Lord.

      You said, “With all the Scriptural evidence I had it clearly told me that it would only be confusion for God to even occasionally let that manifestation take place today. There simply is no need for that manifestation in the Church today.”

      That’s a hefty statement; where are all your Scriptural supports for this? Who determines what is needful today, you or God? (saying that with gentleness!)

      You said, “Why would a person even come into a church today that didn’t speak their language ?”

      Sometimes, they do it because there is something in the music that transcends all human language. We know the worldly music also has a power that cannot be disputed. I know of Spanish-speaking people who attended English-speaking churches for years, not able to understand a word, but God kept them there, and they eventually learned English in that manner.

      That man did speak broken English, as quickly discerned when he gave the interpretation. The message was clearly personal and for he only. The meeting was being conducted in English, a language he could understand, but again, God probably realized it would carry more authority and impact him greater, if he heard it in his own mother tongue. We cannot begin to imagine how this scenario probably impacted the non-believers that were present!

      You said, “Now I’ll give you this, if that extreme condition ever did take place, and a person was desperately seeking God, and decided to come into that church for help, certainly God could have some one speak a message of Salvation in another language to the saving of that soul. It would have to be a desperate situation.”

      With all due respect and Christian love, I’d have to say you’re back-tracking at this juncture. You’re finally saying it is o.k. for God to “come out of the box” in “a time of desperation”. He is free to minister in this way, when YOU say so. (I’ll leave that alone.) What difference does it make if the message is about salvation, or imploring an individual to go home because his house was on fire, or his loved one was just in a bad accident?

      You said, “It would have to be a desperate situation.”

      That statement has jarred my memory somewhat. It seems to me, that this man had been planning to take his life, and that’s why the message was personally tailored to him. Yes! Eureka! That’s exactly what it was! Thanks, David, for knocking the dust off that revelation! It was so long ago, and like I said, it didn’t personally concern me, so I engaged in giving God praise and thanksgiving immediately after his interpretation. God is so good!

      Brother, you have quoted me, “We must be careful not to give credit to satan for something God has done, and conversely, we must not give credit to God for something satan has done !!!

      On this, we both agree!

      You should be shot for your closing remark, “In case you are wondering, do I believe you are a child of God………..absolutely. I could see that after a few of your post.”

      You touched me on an “emotional” level! 🙂 It brought a tear to my eye! Stop that! That was a very subjective reaction! 🙂 Thank you, for that affirmation! I believe the spiritual shoot-out is now over! Please forgive me for the “fiery darts” that I tossed over the fence in your direction. My passion for the Lord and His Word are so strong, and sometimes, I get really militant about it.

      “I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2. With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3. Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.” Eph. 4: 1-3

      I believe, we have just done that!

      “Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!” Psa. 133: 1

      Peace, my beloved brother in Christ!
      Skywatcher

      • David Kaus

        Hello Skywatcher, and thank you for the very edifying response to what I had written previously.

        Without addressing every specific thing you mention in your response, let me say this. First off I knew that I was opening a door that could be used to oppose my conviction that tongues have ceased, when I put forth an example of “a desperate” situation where God would by His Sovereign right use an unknown tongue in some manner even today, if it wasn’t seen in the light I had wished it to be. But I did it any way to see what your response would be. I used an example of salvation which did not exclude anything that paralleled it in a form of deliverance. Your expounding of what did happen at the event you mentioned of an unknown tongue being spoken fit my example perfectly. And I do not exclude it as coming from God, nor the resultant “hush.” I was at a revival meeting where an evangelist had set up a small tent to pray in on the stage he would be preaching from. He did this to be alone in prayer before he preached. The audience didn’t realize that he was in his tent praying until his prayers got very vocal. Then we heard him fervently saying “Lamb of God, Lamb of God……….etc. A very definite presence of godly fear came over everyone at once and all heads immediately bowed down in reverence.

        Back to the event of the Dutch man. What happened there does not mean that God was by any means giving a stamp of approval of the gift of tongues being operational today in the Church. As you stated the event was not a gathering of the body of Jesus Christ. If the Scriptures, and historical events of the early Church are looked at closely, the gift of tongues can be seen for the purpose it fulfilled back then. I believe that all the nonsense of the present day Copeland types verify that fact by their deceptive occult manifestation of ecstatic utterances which is so prevalent in pagan religions.

        God has always given a gift for a purpose, and never for self edification exclusively. I’m sure a person back in the early church was edified along with the body of Christ when they spoke in an unknown tongue and an interpretation was given. There is generally a self edification when anything done for God has brought forth a good result.

        So if you are hearing me correctly on this I am stating that the gift of tongues has ceased and is not being now used in the body of Christ because its purpose as outlined in Scripture in every detail has been fulfilled. And that God in His Sovereign right could still speak to some one in an unknown tongue like He did to the Dutch man if necessary, but this was not verifying that tongues for the Church was still being given as a needed gift for the Church today. We gone over the Scriptural references, and you hold to one view, and I the other so I’ll leave it at that, and not just repaeat what I’ve stated already.

        I also know that what I’ve stated has to be true because through out church history that gift is never (I’m sure there has been a report of an instance of its occurrence in some form ecstatic or otherwise) seen as being operational through out the body of Christ. It is only in recent Church history, especially in the early 1900, at Azusa St. that this present manifestation was brought forth.

        Missionaries that came forth with these utterances went off to foreign mission fields thinking that they now could use this gift to bring salvation to people of another tongue. They soon found out just how deceived they were. The proof is in the pudding as they say, and in Scripture. Tongues have cease being given as a gift for the Church because its purpose has been fulfilled, as specifically out lined in Scripture in every aspect has been fulfilled. Certainly if there ever was a need for a Christian to have this gift it would have been to missionaries. If God has not used it there uniformly through out history why then do we need it in churches where there is no necessity for it ??? God is not in the entertainment business.

        On a final note as to your mention of fiery darts, ouch, I’m still plucking some out, but not yours. Postings can reveal at times a very obvious malice. But at other times it can be very easy to read emotions into post that were never intended. I try to guard myself from that by slowing down my response, and bringing thoughts under subjection. It’s a work in progress. May I extend to you my dart remover if any have come your way from me.

        God bless brother, in Jesus Christ, David

      • David Kaus

        Hello Skywatcher, how’s the weather today up there ? We have had snow for the last several days but it has only dropped to the mid teens. I’m enjoying this winter and I try to take my daily hikes in the semi deep snow for a good work out.

        Let me ask you a couple/three questions about your utterances.

        Have you used this to minister/edify people in the body of Christ ?

        If so was there an interpretation of what you uttered ?

        What is the unknown language you utter ?

        Has a linguist or some person who speaks that utterance verified its authenticity ?

        Did the utterance testify to the wonderful works of God ?

        Was it given to an unbeliever ?

        I may have more but these will do for now.

  • David Kaus

    P.S Skywatcher: On miracles, I always pray in the Name of Jesus Christ, and ask for God’s mercy.

    I never pronounce it done in Jesus name.

    In apostolic times you will note that Peter said to the crippled man at the Temple words to this effect; in the Name of Jesus Christ stand on your feet, then he reached down and helped the man rise up. I believe that was a sign of an apostle. They could pronounce it done in Jesus name and it was done. The same thing I believe was the case for the gift of miracles.

    God even did things to verify apostolic authority by having Peter’s shadow heal people.

    In addition I believe that the apostles had some type of leading fromn the Holy Spirit in doing miracles. The same would be the case for the gift of miracles.

    • Skywatcher

      Agreed! Thank you, so very much re: your testimony of miracles that God has used you to bring to pass. He did the work; you were just a tool! 🙂

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