Pope Francis To Declare Bible-Rejecting New Age Universalist Mother Teresa A Saint Tomorrow

Mother Teresa was a New Age Universalist who believe that no one went to Hell, and that everyone from any religion with any belief of any kind would eventually make it into Heaven because "God is love". That is not the work of a saint, that is the work of a devil.
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On Sunday, September 4, 2016, Pope Francis will conduct a papal mass and canonization service for Mother Teresa, who will be known As Saint Teresa of Calcutta.

“Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:” Colossians 1:24,25 (KJV)

Pope Francis officially cleared Mother Teresa for sainthood on Dec. 17, 2015, recognizing her “miraculous healing” of a Brazilian man with multiple brain abscesses, the Vatican said. While her actions gained widespread admiration by some, Mother Teresa was not beloved by all and was criticized for the quality of care in her clinics and taking millions in donations from Haitian dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier and disgraced American financier Charles Keating, according to the Associated Press. Bet’cha didn’t know that about “Mother” Teresa now, did you?

After Pope Francis bestows “sainthood” on Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu, commonly known as Mother Teresa, she will henceforth be called Saint Teresa of Calcutta. The Vatican has already started the process of getting their 1.2 billion adherents to start directing their prayers to her. At mothertersea.org you can venerate her relics like a pair of her old shoes or a lock of her hair. The Vatican will instruct their people that, in her new role as official Catholic saint, Mother Teresa will “intercede” to Jesus for any and all of your prayer needs. Only one small problem with all that. Mother Teresa was a rabid New Age Universalist who denied the power and authority of the Holy Bible. Allow us to share with you a few of her lesser-known quotes on God and way of salvation.

Here is the story that the Vatican wants you to believe about the “blessed mother”:

Mother Teresa on witnessing to lost people:

“We never try to convert those who receive aid to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God’s presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for this better men — simply better — we will be satisfied. It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes into their life — his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation.”  – Mother Teresa

THE BIBLE SAYS: “I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.” 2 Timothy 4:2 (KJV)

3 Quotes from Mother Teresa on Jesus Christ being the only way:

“I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic.” – “I love all religions. … If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there.” – “All is God — Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, etc., all have access to the same God.”  – Mother Teresa

THE BIBLE SAYS: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6 (KJV)

As you can clearly see, Mother Teresa believed all roads led to God, and all religions worship the same God. When she became a nun, she famously said that she was now “married to Jesus for all eternity”. That’s great to say, but in her work ministering to the poor, Mother Teresa never one time told anyone they needed to become born again. Her “eternal husband” Jesus said that being born again was the difference between going to Heaven or going to Hell, yet she never mentions it to anyone. Why not?

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV)

Mother Teresa was a New Age Universalist who believed that no one went to Hell, and that everyone from any religion with any belief of any kind would eventually make it into Heaven because “God is love”. That is not the work of a saint, that is the work of a devil. Yes, she ministered to the “poorest of the poor” but she never told them how to get saved. From an eternal perspective that’s a rank failure, a complete dereliction of her duty as the Christian she claimed to be.

In the Bible all believers are called saints

The Vatican needs to keep the myth of Mother Teresa alive so that the 1.2 billion Catholics around the world will have yet another false god to pray to, to remain in spiritual bondage to. The Bible never talks about any special class of people called saints, not one time. In fact, God declares all believers in both Testaments to be the “saints of God”.

“Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:” 1 Corinthians 1:2 (KJV)

Make no mistake about it, there is but one path to God the Father who art in Heaven, and that is through His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. So that means the Muslim who worships Allah, the Buddhist who worships Buddha, the Hindu that worships Shiva and so on down the line, if they die without faith in Jesus Christ will spend an eternity in a place called Hell. This is what the Bible declares to be true.

Yet Pope Francis, when he declares Mother Teresa to be a saint tomorrow, would have you believe that a woman who refused to tell people how to get saved and allowed them to die unsaved in their sins, is somehow now in Heaven being honored by God?

Not one chance in a million.

Mother Teresa may now be a Catholic saint, but she is certainly not a saint by a Biblical definition.

 

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.

  • Richard

    She believed in salvation by works. That is why she put so much time and effort into helping the poor. Those works got her nothing in the after life. So sad. Bet you will get roasted on this one Geoffrey. The Catholics will be coming out with pitchforks and fire.

  • sharon

    no she is not in heaven being honored by God,but she is not in a place that you would have your believers think is a place of fire and torment. Hell-Hades-Hell-Sheol-translated into the greek and Hebrew.Christ Jesus himself was there.Mankinds Common Grave-Ecl.9:5 the dead are conscience of nothing at all.Psalms 146:4 His spirit goes out,he goes back to his ground,In that day his thoughts do perish.STOP TELLING LIES! Jesus summed it up this way You must love the Lord your God with your whole heart,mind,soul,and strength,and love your neighbor as yourself.

    • Mother Teresa, if she knew the truth, refused to tell the truth to the people she ministered to. That’s a fact. And you sound suspiciously like a Jehovah’s Witness. Hmm….

  • Geoff, you’ve lost your mind!

    • Oh really? Then I suppose you are in AGREEMENT with this statement from MT – ““I’VE ALWAYS SAID WE SHOULD HELP A HINDU BECOME A BETTER HINDU, A MUSLIM BECOME A BETTER MUSLIM, A CATHOLIC BECOME A BETTER CATHOLIC.””

  • The Catholic pope as an unbeliever doesn’t understand who a saint is. A saint of God is one who has accepted Christ as his personal Lord and savior, believes the word of God, lives by the word of God and totally obeys the word of God. If he is still alive or has rested in the Lord is a saint. This evil organization called Catholic Church has led billions of souls to hell by its evil doctrines.

  • carson

    yeah the inter-faith has been around for along time

  • Heaven has extreme vetting!
    Unless you are born again, you will not see Heaven!
    The pope cannot tell anyone they are a saint! That’s God’s job!
    This pope is a false prophet!
    Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

  • Only God can say someone is a saint!
    Only God can search the heart!
    This pope is a false prophet!
    Time is short, birth pangs are increasing!

  • Leonard

    The worst of it is, Mother Teresa probably never knew any better. The catholic church does not encourage reading the Bible. Until one actually does read it, they never realize how much man-made “religion” contradicts the Bible…

  • Sharon – Jesus is a God of love and mercy, but he is also a God of unmitigated wrath and vengeance. Hell is real…and it’s forever:
    http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/12/28/hell-and-the-wrath-of-god-almighty-what-do-the-scriptures-say/

  • She believed and practiced what all Roman Catholics who believe in their religion believe and practice. That good works plus faith in any god saves you. Dear Roman Catholic, flee the whore who has been made drunk with the blood of the saints. Run to Jesus who alone can save from eternal death.

  • Mother Theresa equated the Christian faith with the false ways of Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc., all of which involve attempts at salvation by works. Impossible! Galatians 2:21 states, “I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” Romans 10:3 states, “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves to the righteousness of God.”

    Acts 4:11-12, referring to Jesus, state, “This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

    Matthew 1:23 states, “… and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” Islam teaches that Jesus is not God, and that he neither died on the cross nor rose from the dead. John 8:24 states, “… if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

    The Bible and the Koran are different books! Those who attempt to equate the Christian faith with Islam or any other false religion are asserting that God said and did what he didn’t, and that he didn’t say and do what he did. Isaiah 5:20 states, “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” Galatians 1:9 states, “… if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

    An indicator of a servant of God is described in Acts 16:17: “… These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.” Jesus said, I am “the way”, “the door”, “the gate”.

  • DeniseC

    We don’t need anyone to “intercede” for us with Christ, not Mary, not any “saint,” no one; only Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Since the curtain was rent in two, we have been able to boldly go before the Throne of Grace. Praying to the Father in Jesus’ name is the only intercession we need.

  • Philip smith

    You are all spot on except the odd one or two alleluia I was brought up for 60 years of my life as a Catholic. None of the hierarchical structures exist in scripture.
    For a start there are no Nuns?
    If the new testament church had been uncorrupted right until today then we would all be serving each other for Gods Kingdom without spiritual decay?
    We are all servants of the Lord, and the word of God is paramount. Failure by Teresa was the absence of Scripture and therefore not understanding why we need to be born again, and that Jesus is the way the truth and the life. As you say works alone is equated to self righteousness even though are not aware of it?
    I now understand where the motivation for Francis one world religion comes from: Teresa?
    Satan has connected all up?

  • Thank you Geoffrey for telling the truth! USA Today magazine did an article on the moments of Mother Theresa just before she died. It was reported that a local diocese sent a priest to her bedside to cast out demons as Mother Theresa was cursing G-d in her final moments. I had the article for a long time and then lost it. Attempts to obtain the article have been fruitless. It appears this information is no longer available.

  • Leonard

    Found a disturbing quote from Mother T:
    “Jesus has a very special love for you. [But] as for me, the silence and the emptiness is so great, that I look and do not see, — Listen and do not hear — the tongue moves [in prayer] but does not speak … I want you to pray for me — that I let Him have [a] free hand.”

    “So many unanswered questions live within me afraid to uncover them—because of the blasphemy—If there be God—please forgive me—When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven—there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul.—I am told God loves me—and yet the reality of darkness and coldness and emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul. Did I make a mistake in surrendering blindly to the Call of the Sacred Heart?”

    “I spoke as if my very heart was in love with God — tender, personal love. If you existed, you would have said, “what hypocrisy.”
    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071026123551AAwy5fc

  • DeniseC

    Leonard, earlier I was thinking of the same thing you did. I remembered reading that, at the end of her life, Mother T had doubts about her faith. I had a book about her life that said how all the nuns lived very simple lives, washing only with a bucket of water each day, and all kinds of things like that. (Pope Francis was also “praised” for being humble, staying in lesser quarters, paying his own way, etc.) When I see them living these lives of self-denial, like Lent, I think of it as works. Remember the Albino in The Davinci Code? He was self-abusive, whipping himself repeatedly, as if that would bring him closer to God. Well, God doesn’t want us to suffer, and all these “outward” deliberate acts, supposedly sharing in the sufferings of Christ, do nothing for our salvation. All our works are burned as filthy rags. Without a relationship with the Lord, we are lost. I think that’s what Teresa was experiencing: more focus on being seen to do good things then actual faith and leading people to the Lord for salvation, which should be our #1 goal. I do appreciate her words about the unborn and, of course, she was very charitable, but how many missed opportunities were there to preach the gospel? Reminds me of that org. run by Rabbi Eckstein, International Fellowship of Christians and Jews–he takes donations from Christians (and unlike Mother T, takes a HUGE salary), but will NOT let them share the gospel with Jews. Feeding them for a day while losing them for eternity…..

  • First above all else love GOD and 2nd love others; which was embodiment of Mother Teresa’s life . I’m not a catholic and I had no problem

    with catholics until the scandal of sex with children by the clergy; this to me is hard to forgive. But. as for this lady I grew up watching ; I have

    to say I believe GOD loves her very much and there is no reason for me to defend a life such as the one Mother Teresa lead. As for her being

    called a saint ; I believe without even knowing this lady(although I grew up watching her) she would in life have never accepted this honor and

    in turn remind us as she always did by telling us it is not her but GOD who is important and she did this often

    As the world awaits Mother Teresa’s canonization Sunday, one mystery remains: why the international Left still harbors such hatred for a diminutive religious sister who spent her entire life serving the poorest of the poor.
    After all, with her inexhaustible dedication to alleviating poverty and assisting the needy, Mother Teresa should be an icon of liberals the world over. Instead, we find that the Left showers her not with affection and praise, but with scorn and disdain.

    On September 1, The Washington Post published an article titled “Why Mother Teresa Is Still No Saint to Many of Her Critics,” citing harsh condemnations of the nun by Hindu nationalists and cataloguing the complaints lodged against the missionary’s work through the decades.

    Earlier this year, Salon called Mother Teresa “repugnant,” accusing her of glorifying suffering instead of relieving it. “Judged by any metric of medical standards,” the piece stated, “it is difficult to remember her legacy as anything other than an inefficient, sanctimonious and wholly ideological franchise.”

    Last weekend, The New York Times showcased “one of the most vocal critics” of Mother Teresa, an Indian physician named Aroup Chatterjee who has made a career out of casting aspersions on the work of the Albanian nun.

    Chatterjee calls Teresa’s work “an imperialist venture of the Catholic Church against an Eastern population.”

    “I just thought that this myth had to be challenged,” he added.

    In 1994, Dr. Chatterjee teamed up with professional atheist Christopher Hitchens to produce a documentary trashing Mother Teresa and her missionaries, called “Hell’s Angel.”

    Shortly afterward, Hitchens cashed in on Mother Teresa’s immense popularity by writing his own bestselling book excoriating the sister, irreverently titled The Missionary Position.

    In this “exposé,” Hitchens calls Mother Teresa “a religious fundamentalist, a political operative, a primitive sermonizer, and an accomplice of worldly secular powers,” as well as asserting that the secret ulterior motive behind all her work was “furthering Catholic doctrine.”

    So the questions again present themselves: Why so much hatred? Why so much deep-seated anger against this woman?

    Sifting through the literature dedicated to smearing the legacy of Mother Teresa, one discovers that all the arguments against her really boil down to two, which the Left can never forgive: her vocal and intransigent opposition to abortion and her overtly Christian spirituality that moved her to pour herself out for her fellow man.

    All the other reasons given—that she provided inferior health care, that she was occasionally irritable with coworkers, that she accepted donations from morally ambiguous characters—are really just a cover for the two that irked the Left to the point of hysteria.

    And hysteria it has been.

    In a noteworthy 1986 essay published by the international abortion giant Planned Parenthood, titled “Mother Teresa, the Woman of My Nightmares,” one gets a taste of the profound odium stirred up by this simple religious sister.

    “This very successful old and withered person, who doesn’t look in the least like a woman, especially when she raises her clenched fists in prayer, and who, for us, is a very suspect holder of the Nobel Prize,” Planned Parenthood wrote in its official publication Sexualpedagogik, “has become for us the symbol of all that is bad in motherhood and womanhood, an image with which we do not wish to be associated.”

    “You, you nightmare of women! You unliberated, enslaved wives, mothers, nuns and aunts, what do you want from us, who have finally decided that we are going to take control of our bodies, our children, and our destiny into our own hands?” it ran.

    Abortion, in fact, formed the centerpiece of Mother Teresa’s definition of poverty and all that is wrong with the world. The three most public speeches of her career—her acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, her Harvard Commencement address, and her words at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C.—all focused on abortion as the greatest social injustice in the world today.

    For Mother Teresa, the voiceless unborn child was truly the “poorest of the poor,” who deserves our undying respect and protection.

    In her acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979, for instance, she dared to say, “I feel the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a direct war, a direct killing – direct murder by the mother herself.”

    At the National Prayer Breakfast in 1994, the politically incorrect sister told then-President Bill Clinton and his wife Hillary that abortion is a “war against the child.”

    “And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?” the nun continued.

    “By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems,” she said. “Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want.”

    But opposition to abortion was not the only crime that earned Mother Teresa the undying ire of the Left. She was also irritatingly… religious. Instead of secular philanthropy, she engaged in old-school Christian charity, picking the dying up off the street and holding them in her arms as they passed away, for the love of God.

    Mother Teresa was guilty, in fact, of the great modern sin of political incorrectness. She freely and unapologetically invoked her love for Jesus Christ as the reason behind everything she did, a practice that is anathema to a world antiseptically cleansed from the grime of religious piety.

    “I see Jesus in every human being,” she said. “I say to myself, this is hungry Jesus, I must feed him. This is sick Jesus. This one has leprosy or gangrene; I must wash him and tend to him. I serve because I love Jesus.”

    Despite her spiritual motivations, however, Mother Teresa was an avowed enemy of proselytism in her work with the poor. She offered love and assistance to all, without ever making conversion a condition or even an aim of her care.

    “We never try to convert those whom we receive to Christianity,” she said, “but in our work we bear witness to the love of God’s presence, and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for this better men—simply better—we will be satisfied.”

    Teresa believed that those who find love find God, and that the best way to bring people to God is by sharing our love with them. “Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier,” she said. “Be the living expression of God’s kindness: kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile.”

    As Pope Francis canonizes Mother Teresa of Calcutta Sunday morning, one group will not be standing by to join the applause: the disaffected Left who cannot forgive the Albanian nun for her deeply Christian charity or her staunch opposition to abortion.

    Even in this “year of mercy,” some sins can never be forgiven.

  • Dianne

    With Fortitude,
    Your post is excellent and worthy of praise. The heart must ponder these things. Thank you.

    Peace and blessings,
    Dianne

  • From with fortitude’s answer Geoffrey, it seems that he does agree with the statement from MT saying “I’VE ALWAYS SAID WE SHOULD HELP A HINDU BECOME A BETTER HINDU, A MUSLIM BECOME A BETTER MUSLIM, A CATHOLIC BECOME A BETTER CATHOLIC.”
    His long reply sounded like a defense for the same works salvation taught in Roman Catholicism. Maybe that is because he is a Roman Catholic. Hmm?
    Blessings Geoffrey:-} and thanks for standing for the truth

    • Amen, brother. I was a Catholic for nearly 30 years before I got saved, 12 years in private Catholic school and 3 years as an altar boy. So I KNOW what the Vatican teaches and what they believe. You’re not going to fool me on that one. Catholics 100%, absolutely worship and pray TO Mary, as well as all the other “saints” as well. “Venerate” my foot….

  • Dianne,
    The fact that the “left” loves death is no new revelation and certainly, at least in this context, not worthy of my praise. But, the real issue, and one that Geoffrey addressed extensively in his post, is that MT did not believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Hence the quote from her saying “I’VE ALWAYS SAID WE SHOULD HELP A HINDU BECOME A BETTER HINDU, A MUSLIM BECOME A BETTER MUSLIM, A CATHOLIC BECOME A BETTER CATHOLIC.”

    With this as the prime reason for the post in the first place, it seems odd that someone would use such a defense as the “left’s” hatred for her, to promote this woman’s form of Christianity. Which, according to the scriptures, is no Christianity at all. But, in reality is Roman Catholicism.
    In other words, baptized paganism.

  • Dianne

    Hello edwitness,
    Mother Teresa. is now dead and none of us really know if she is with the Lord or not. However With Fortitude stated that he was not a Catholic but did see many wonderful attributes that Mothet Teresa did in her fight against the horrible state of the impoverished in the world and her stand for the dignity of the unborn. I too have a heart to help out the poor and the unborn so those issues are dear to my heart. I find that worthy of praise. Maybe on her death bed she repented in her heart to God for all of her sins against HIM. Only HE knows and I’ll leave that with HIM.

    Peace and blessings,
    Dianne

    • I am not concerned with what she did or did not say on her deathbed. Lots of people do wacky things at that time. What I am concerned with is the FACT that when she was alive and well, she never told people to get saved. Feeding the poor is NOT a sign that you are a Christian. Telling people how to get saved is….

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey, I’m sure that you are ” not concerned ” about wether Mother Teresa REPENTED on her death bed. The very fact that you consider REPENTANCE on one’s death bed to be wacky speaks volumes about you. I’m sure that many will declare at your death that you said and did some wacky things while alive. But I will hope that you REPENTED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID TO OFFEND THE LORD OF GLORY before you take your last breath on this side of ETERNITY!

    • My salvation is not dependent on me repenting, my salvation is dependent on what Jesus did on the cross. My SANCTIFICATION, on the other hand, is completely dependent on me repenting on a regular basis. MT did not “repent on her deathbed” anyway, so what’s your point?

  • While it is true Dianne, that MT may have had a deathbed conversion, we can only go by what we know. Not what we hope in regards to another person’s salvation. And what we know is alarming as Geoffrey’s article has shown.
    While she believed that the suffering of those who came to her more than 500 missions was beneficial for them, and therefore did not administer the care they were hoping for, she herself was interned at a modern medical hospital when it was her turn to “suffer” as she was dying. All the benefits medicine has to offer for her. But not them. Hmm?
    And it wasn’t for lack of funding either. Hundreds of millions had been donated for the purpose of helping those who came to her. Doctors that had visited her missions called them “homes for the dying”. With poor hygiene and inadequate care. Quite an epitaph for a “saint” wouldn’t you agree?
    We can hope that she made a deathbed confession. Anyone who confesses Christ as the only way to heaven and receives Him as Lord and savior can be saved. But, from what she said she believed during her lifetime it seems unlikely. Not impossible. But unlikely.

  • Jesus is Lord

    Great post my friend. The truth is not biased towards anything or any man. Truth stands as truth. Say it like it is. Great

  • Dianne

    Edwitness, I am not defending Mother Teresa’s witness at to others in what she said because I DO NOT SUPPORT Catholic teaching at ALL.
    However I do appreciate anyone’s effort at feeding the poor, administering aid and the fighting for the cause of the unborn and that is my point. Take it or leave it. My heart for those in the fight stands!

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey, Jesus said in Mathew 25:35 ” For I was hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger and ye took me in:” Very CHRISTIAN INDEED but not a guarantee of salvation. ” Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Mathew 7:21

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey,
    Luke 13:3-5 ” I tell you, Nay: but, except ye REPENT, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower of Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
    I tell you, Nay: but, EXCEPT YE REPENT, ye shall all likewise PERISH.”

    1 Corinthians 10:12 ” Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth TAKE HEED lest he fall.”

    My point about Mother Teresa’s salvation at the time of her death, ONLY GOD REALLY KNOWS, PERIOD!

    • Again, whatever her state at death, is it what it is. My CONCERN was for the thousands of people she LED TO HELL because she told them they didn’t need Jesus. That’s the real issue here.

  • Dianne,
    I too take a stand against abortion and for caring for the poor. But, don’t you believe as l do that we can not join arms with unbelievers? To be unequally yoked? There is a real hypocrisy in someone who rejects Jesus and instead works for salvation. Such a person could never truly be trusted. Double minded.
    She was all over the map in her value system. To let those who come to her for help suffer because it is somehow good for them. But, on the other hand, fight for the unborn’s right to life. Hmm? They both suffer, right? So what is the difference if the baby is killed in the womb if, in your value system, it is beneficial to suffer?
    Any praise given to MT for her altruism is therefore misplaced. It is for that very reason that the pope has decided to “Saint” her.

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey, you do NOT KNOW if Mother Teresa led anyone to hell. You are NOT GOD. All that you can do is speculate. You need to worry about your own soul instead of declaring where other people have or have not gone after death. If you had a true heart of an evangelist you would at least hoped for her repentance as even God himself declared in John 3:16. You need the Holy Spirit to take out your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. I do not agree with Catholic dogma but only God has the last say on who made it into HIS KINGDOM and who DID NOT.
    If you make it, Mother Teresa may even greet you there and say to you ” I’m glad to see that you made it here Geoffrey, isn’t it BEAUTIFUL!” Ponder that thought

  • Dianne

    Edwitness, I have NOT linked arms with unbelievers. I help feed the homeless on a regular basis and I have seen poverty up close and personal in this country and in other nations and it is ” gut wrenching ” to say the least. Very few people and that includes many Christians are willing to help with this deplorable life conditions that many worldwide live in on a daily basis. So yes, I will give Mother Teresa CREDIT for having done so. And that is ALL THAT I AM DOING! Giving her credit where I believe CREDIT is DUE. The rest I leave with OUR VERY MERCIFUL GOD!!!

  • Heather

    I agree Geoffrey and Edwitness! Thank you for posting this article Geoffrey, for it is a great example and shines a light on the words of our Lord Jesus;

    Matthew 7:22-23(KJV)

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    To me, working iniquity is having a platform just like P Francis and never telling people how to get saved in Christ Jesus, but telling people; “I’ve always said, we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic.
    Her words mirror those of P Francis, two pees in a pod?

    The Catholic Religion is a death cult and has led, and is leading so many people to hell.
    Thank you again for telling the truth Geoffrey. People need to read this.

  • Jesus is Lord

    Love your neighbor as yourself yes but not condone your neighbors sinful acts.

    Also, Jesus did speak about hell and eternal damnation in the gospels. Did you know that sharon ? Please read the KJV bible not the Jehovah’s Witness bible. It might hurt because we might have family members or friends who have passed away and we dont know for sure if they were saved, hence wanting to think that a hell doesnt exist.

    The point is that it does, Jesus mentioned it in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Read anyone of them from the KJV Bible and you will find it.

  • Given how old she was, she would have received the kind of religious training in both childhood and as a novitiate that emphasized Catholicism as the only way to salvation. Since she apparently did not believe that when she died, I would like to know what, when and how she changed her mind. That would be fascinating and might explain a lot of her views. Then again, we might never know this side of eternity.

  • Teresa is in her grave and all the thoughts have perished and now waits for Judgement Day when she will be destroyed forever for her lies, blasphemies and worship of idols.

  • Leigh

    Great post Sis!

  • Ed you should address me yourself instead of Geoff . I have no idea what MT thought but I do know her life ; pleased GOD more than you

    ever will ; no contest. Her comment about the hindu muslim and catholic was concerning equality to GOD ; which we all in fact are his creation

    and to say that helping anyone ; to be a better person ; regardless of who they are are what they believe in ; is in fact part of what Christ

    meant when saying the 2nd commandment is ; love others as you would yourself, You see ; you like Geoff are still crawling in some respect

    to understanding scripture and are part of the reason I didn’t bother to read any responses yesterday as my mood wasn’t the best and from

    what I see today; I’m glad I did. Because Ed your taunts will only lead me to a back and forth with you and would lead to profanity

    which you don’t mind using on this forum which you are well known for. You see Ed it starts with the subtle name calling and accusations

    which lead to the heated back in forth which I know you enjoy. However, I know you wouldn’t go there with me if we were in the same

    room and that is one of the differences between you and I. While you are full of knowledge you always stumble because you lack of maturity

    when it come to the keyboard and childish taunts.

  • No, Geoff ,there is no amen brother. You were Catholic so what? What about your life up to now Geoff; does it compare to

    Mother Teresa’s ? That’s the question Geoff. Comparing yourself to Mother Teresa is what you should be doing and when you do

    what do we have? Geoff, even if you tried you would come up short because this beautiful soul has already finished her life and

    it was Glorious ! Print what you want Geoff but you’re

    being shameless over this issue of what you think MT may or may have not thought ; because we cannot honestly know the truth

    about that. However, what we do know is this woman stood against even the pope ; when it came to

    chastising the RCC for not doing enough in caring for the poor. This woman lived and exemplary life regardless of what you think

    you know from what you’ve read online and for you to belittle it Geoff makes me wonder why? Maybe you’re just being sensational

    which you’ve done before and is understandable; hey it gets attention and is good for your site.

    However, I’m not mad at you Geoff; just disappointed .

  • This comment is addressed to “With Fortitude”

    Did you read the USA TODAY article published right after Mother Theresa died? In that article it stated that a priest was called to the bedside of the dying Mother Theresa to perform an exorcism as the dying woman was cursing G-d. The priest was unsuccessful. It was reported Mother Theresa died cursing G-d.

  • No , Geoff your salvation only depends on whether or not you believe in the gospel and that is all . However, the question of whether or not

    we think our salvation depends on doing good works is something to ponder. But outside of my pitiful life what would we think GOD

    would do in Mother Teresa’s case? Here we have a woman who did Everything to please GOD and whether her belief in salvation by

    works is right or wrong I hear Jesus repeating the lines ” who among you is without sin cast the first stone”?

    I am proud to say the GOD I believe in Loved this woman regardless of our misunderstanding of what GOD wants or does not want.

    What I do know is if she was alive today she would be caring for the children ; washing the feet of the disabled and caring for the poor

    while you Geoff and Ed are on here pontificating over whether the rapture is going happen and when .

    • Sorry, but MT was a Universalist who put untold thousands in HELL because she told them to “stay with their religion”….feeding the poor is quite meaningless if after they are fed you let them go to Hell.

  • Thank you Dianne! I’m sorry you are being chastised for something like this. It shows our brothers are still crawling in respect to

    understanding what it means to love each other. While Geoff means well this article is disgraceful but GOD still loves him and I pray

    Geoff’s ministry will continue to be blessed but we shall see.

  • So despite this woman’s life you want to believe something like this; what does that say about your character?

  • Geoff, why can’t I see my comment ; is this a feature on your site where the comment needs approval before it posts or is this a glitch ?

  • I do not think it will be much longer before we find out who is right or wrong here!
    Behold, the Bridegroom cometh!
    Get dressed to meet him!

  • Alex

    Working their way to hell… that is the saddest of ironies.

  • Just another idol that the Catholics will pray to and worship. Too bad they don’t read the Bible.

  • Geoff like I said you would be here pontificating and she would be feeding and caring for the poor. For someone like yourself to blindly ignore the service this beautiful soul gave to the outcasts of the world is wrong.

    Sorry, but MT was a Universalist who put untold thousands in HELL. Do you hear yourself.

    Geoff you have been for the last year banging the drums for a man like Trump but Mother Teresa will burn in hell and her service to the

    world’s outcasts means nothing.

    How hypocritical is that? I’m voting Trump even though I know Trump has had countless dealings with corruption yet you

    still claim he is what our country needs as do I . Trump even said outright he’s never asked for forgiveness from GOD ; how hilariously

    hypocritical can you be Geoff? Trump is better than Mother Teresa ; yeah ; NO.

    • As far as I can see, no one is having any conversations with Trump about their ETERNAL DESTINY. The people that MT spoke to TRUSTED HER to tell them the TRUTH about God, and she LIED right to their faces. Trying to equate that with political events is as far removed from each other as east is from the west. They never meet.

      MT was a FRAUD who put people into Hell.

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey, NO man, woman or child CAN EVER ” put someone in hell” as you have ERRONEOUSLY STATED.
    ONLY JESUS has that AUTHORITY.
    Revelation 1:18 ” I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”

    Luke 12:5 ” But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after HE hath killed hath POWER to CAST into HELL; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.”

  • Dianne

    You are welcome With Fortitude. As you can see we need to keep praying the LORD’S PRAYER(Mathew 6:9-13) even the more as we see that day approaching.

    Peace and blessings,
    Dianne

  • Diego Dave

    ok. so everyone on this site knows where this nun is right now…only God and the nun knows where she is right now. I thank The Word for telling us the Jesus is the final judge of where one ends up, not humans with the at best outside interpretations of what is observed. God discerns His children’s hearts.

  • Dave where she is now has no bearing to where she was which has been my point ; a point which Geoff thinks he’s wiggling out of with each

    post. As to your point ; my point would be the only point you have is through faith ; yeah? Where do we go when we die? Good question.

    What is consciousness ; hmm? No, Dave, the conversation (with me) is really about whether Geoff put this article out there for sensational

    reasons ; which I believe he did. I’ve been with NTEB since it’s beginning and from time to time our brother does things for the sake of

    advertisement ; which is understandable and is needed. I’ll say it again ; I am not Catholic but this is wrong. Mother Teresa lived a perfect

    life ; I mean this lady devoted her life to GOD and to the service of his children and it is not her fault that the one who is recognizing her

    is a piece of garbage. Brother Dave this is the first article here that I’ve wept over because of it’s unjust content; I pray it’s the last.

  • Geoff , your just wrong on this and everyone Knows you love Trump on one hand and on the other you drag an innocent soul through the

    mud. Where is your integrity my dear brother?

    • Do you know what they call it when your comments on articles have nothing to do with the article itself? Trolling. Don’t be that guy. That guy winds up getting booted. Trying to insert Trump into an article on MT is trolling.

  • With fortitude,
    I did not address you because I was not speaking TO you, only ABOUT something you said to Geoffrey. Big difference.
    However, now that you have addressed me I will reply.
    The issue here is not whether she did anything nice for people. Even exemplary. The issue is whether or not the message conveyed while being nice to these people brought any assurance of an eternity with Jesus.
    The answer to that question, based upon her stated beliefs, is an emphatic NO!!
    That is the issue of the article and no amount of threats and lies from you toward me(“…and would lead to profanity which you don’t mind using on this forum which you are well known for.” And “I know you wouldn’t go there if we were standing in the same room…”) or impugning Geoffrey’s cognitive abilities(“Geoff, you’ve lost tour mind!) will change that.
    The real difference between you and I is that I stick with the issue at hand while you resort to bullying tactics and lies. If you really knew the first thing about real love, God’s love, you would not do that. But, people like you always resort to things like that when they are not able to admit they are wrong.

  • DeniseC

    I haven’t seen so much arguing here over someone’s eternity since Muhammed Ali died.
    Christians who lambaste Trump for not being Christian enough are lauding someone who, like the pope, believed all roads lead to Heaven and that somehow MT’s good works make up for that. You can’t have it both ways, people. Lots of people help the poor, and there are atheists who abhor abortion. That doesn’t make them Heaven-bound.
    Edwitness, you are correct that people are not seeing the “big picture.” Yes, MT did wonderful things for “the least of these,” but when she had an opportunity to lead them to Christ, she did not. She promoted a universal, everyone-gets-to-Heaven theology, again, like the pope who said atheists can get to Heaven by doing good works, that damned people. It would have been better for them if she had said nothing at all.

  • Denise the big picture is Mother Teresa didn’t just do some good works ; her entire life was about it , but whatever ; I’m done; believe what you

    will.

  • Whatever Ed

  • DeniseC

    “Whatever?” What, are you an angst-ridden teenager?
    So you are fine that a nun didn’t lead anyone to Christ in all her years of ministry? You don’t address that at all in your responses, so I guess it’s a case of selective interpretation. Go off on people for one part of the story and dismiss the rest.

    So, I reiterate: You don’t get the big picture at all of what the mission is for all Christians: to share the Gospel with the world.
    You and Dianne focus on one thing someone says and won’t back down and concede that the fact that MT didn’t offer the plan of salvation to pagan people is a good point. That is prideful. At least Ed and I acknowledged MT cared for the poor and unborn. In any other case you would say that good works isn’t enough to get one into Heaven, especially re: the RCC.

    Why is it so hard to say, “MT was a good example to all of us, but it is sad that she didn’t share her faith with unbelievers”? You wouldn’t lose any face at all in pointing out the good she did while mourning lost souls. It’s more than just this one story, too. I see this vendetta to one-up Geoffrey Grider (or anyone with a different take on an article) in several people on this site. You/they can’t just say, “I disagree” and maybe back it up with some good argument; you/they have to hit below the belt and call him/us names.

    “Whatever” is right.
    You are just fixate, agitate, excoriate, and, exacerbate. What a Christian!

    Bill Gates does a lot of philanthropic work too, if you don’t mind those immunizations that are sterilizing and killing people. Should we nominate him for sainthood next?

  • I’M A TROLL ?

  • THAT’S RICH !

  • Dianne

    Hello DeniseC,
    I have never condoned Mother Teresa’s Catholic teaching nor any Catholic dogma ever. You have completely misunderstood my point about feeding the poor and standing up for abortion which I CLEARLY stated in my post. Please do not pull me into this foolishness. I made my point clear and I will not tolerate you or anyone making my post out to be something totally different from what my post reflected.

  • The idea Geoff that you would call me that ; knowing I’m not ; questions not you journalistic integrity but your character .

  • Denise don’t lump me in with diane and remember I’m the one that told you to walk away from your fight with diane because it wasn’t worth it.

    I said whatever to ed because he calls people stupid when they don’t agree with him. He likes to use the term false doctrine and your going

    to hell for your beliefs and other inflammatory statements when talking to other Christians. It goes nowhere and worse Ed knows his bible

    which is commendable but it’s his maturity that is lacking.

    As for Mother Teresa, we don’t agree and clearly are not listening to each other ; so drop it.

  • This is a hot mess I’m unsubscribing from this article leave me out of it

  • Geoff, also some of these comments (WIth Fortitude ) are not mine. What’s up with that?

    • We will soon be switching to the Disqus commenting system, that way everyone will have their own identity 🙂 problem solved!

  • MRS. D

    Spiritual food is WAY more important than physical food. Said JESUS.

    MT’s intentions vs the appearance of her intentions matters. She denied the power and gift of Jesus, the Spirit and Father. That fact out weighs any act or work she did.

    The Law of Sowing and Reaping applies to everyone. One cannot make those kinds of statements and not reap the consequences of heresy of promoting a false religion (Catholicism or Universalism)!

    Why do people defending her NEED to put her or any human on a pedestal? STOP IT. Anything that takes our eyes of Jesus to applaud a human is wrong.

  • DeniseC

    WF, you and Dianne have been supporting each other and getting on GG’s case in this thread, which is why I “lumped” you together with her. You told GG he isn’t as good as MT, but he shares the plan for salvation on his site and preaches the word in public, which MT didn’t do. So on God’s balance, I’d say GG comes out ahead of MT, JMO.

    Dianne, I wasn’t referring to your post about the poor and unborn but your comments to GG. Maybe MT didn’t lead anyone to hell, but it doesn’t sound like she lead anyone away from it, either. Perhaps GG could have worded it better, but we all know the point he was trying to make. I’m not trying to fight with either of you; I just don’t know why neither of you can’t admire her good works while feeling bad that she didn’t share the gospel. She believed in the Catholic doctrine, like Muhammad Ali believed in Islam, and she didn’t even share that with people. She just wanted them to be a better person, regardless of their religion, and that was wrong and was all GG, Ed, and I were saying.

    I actually just went back and reread the post on Muhammed Ali (312 comments!) Many there were hoping that he, too, had had a death-bed conversion, but we don’t know that about him or MT. I don’t think either of you commented on that one, but I did and said basically that those who reject Christ in this life are unlikely to be with Him in the next.

    My uncle just died, as did a friend’s mom, and the first thing asked by people I shared the news with was “Did he/she know the Lord?” Both had incredible lives, as shown in their obituaries, but none of one’s accomplishments means anything without the Lord in their lives—all just filthy rags, burned up.

    I think the work you do with the poor is wonderful, Dianne. We’ve also had some good conversations about the unborn. You didn’t say if you share the gospel with these people or if there is an opportunity to do so. I support a homeless shelter that does, and we have a church here that has a food bank with one requirement: the people must attend one church service to hear the Word. You’d be amazed at how many people are willing to take the food but won’t give one hour of their time to hear the Word. They go away angry, not realizing that the pastor wants to feel their spiritual hunger even more than their physical hunger. That’s faith in action, and the works are because we are grateful for what the Lord has done for us, not to make points with Him.

    I shouldn’t have had to explain all this, because I thought I was also clear in my posts, but I think sometimes people get riled up and insulted too easily sometimes. Saying, “I will not tolerate….”, attacking character, showing a “whatever” attitude only makes a mountain out of a mole hill, and, again, it’s pride getting in the way. I don’t think my trying to point out the big picture was all that insulting; nor was expecting better from fellow Christians for their treatment of others with whom they disagree. Nevertheless, I apologize to both of you for setting you off. It was not my intent. Now are either of you big enough to apologize for how you behaved?

  • Denise I was being polite to diane that is all. My conversation has been entirely with Geoff and we just don’t agree with each other.

    You don’t need to apologize to me and we’ve said enough on this subject ; please leave me out of it.

  • Profound WF.
    You know, you say you are not RC but as far as I can see from your MT apologetics you may as well be. Anyone who thinks that someone who performs good works, no matter how many, and at the same time openly rejects Jesus as the only way to heaven, and even encouraged those who are in the idolatry of Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism etc…, yet is still somehow accepted by God anyway, is as deceived as she is.
    After hearing the truth from so many well meaning Christians as you have here, and still rejecting it, it’s no wonder your frustrated. No profanity please.

  • Amen DeniseC,
    The point really is what Jesus did. Not what we can do. That’s why we say “Jesus saves”, right? And WF really does seem like an “angst ridden teenager” doesn’t he?
    Blessings:-} sis,
    Your brother ED

  • DeniseC

    Ed, I am bowing out, as WF asked me to do. I know Geoffrey doesn’t need me to defend him, but I get more upset when I see others getting insults than I do when I get them myself. We all need to be more patient with each other, be slower to take offense, and not read into someone’s comments something that isn’t intended. This site is about End Times and how the news ties into them. We will see more and more of the pope and others promoting ecumenism. Jesus didn’t say, “Budda, Allah, and I are the Way;” He said, “I am the Way.” People, especially Catholics, need to hear this.

    I did go to the Word and found a lot that James said about faith without works being dead, but he doesn’t say much about work without faith. John 6 (KJV) does:

    25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither?

    26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.

    27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

    28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

    29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

    Then, of course, we get the lesson of The Bread of Life, and this verse in particular stuck with me:

    John 6:53-58King James Version (KJV)

    53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

    54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

    55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

    56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

    57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

    58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

    I am not going to say any more. People either get it or they don’t. For once, though, it would be nice to have people give GG the benefit of the doubt.

  • Dianne

    DeniseC, I do not understand why you feel that you have to defend Geoffrey every time others disagree with him. You would be better off to let him defend himself. Every disagreement is NOT YOURS TO SETTLE.

    Proverbs 26:17 He that passeth by, meddleth with strife not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.

    1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.

    Proverbs 26:21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

    Yes, the homeless that I help feed have to listen to the gospel message before they are fed and testimonies from mature Christians and then prayer.

    I would really appreciate it if you would stop pulling my name into this discussion. As I stated before I do not agree with Mother Teresa’s Catholic dogma that she believed in, nor was I condoning what she said. I was only supporting her willingness to help the poor.
    You have completely misconstrued what was my main point. Geoffrey got into wether she put people in hell and other inflammatory statements in which I corrected him on SCRIPTURALLY.

    I have prayed with people on their death bed to receive the Lord and I praise and thank the Lord for those 11th hour salvation. Only HE knows every heart and only HE has the authority to put anyone in hell.

    Also Denise I DO NOT comment on every article that Geoffrey puts out, so the fact that you revisited an article about Mohammad Ali and found no comments from me have no validity in this conversation.

    • I respond to legitimate comments and questions, but I no longer reply to trolls. If someone really has come here to LEARN something, I will spend as much time as I can to teach them. But if people have just come to attack they get no reply from me. Some people are unteachable due to their own pride. I cannot help those people.

  • DeniseC

    I mentioned you ONCE, Dianne, when commenting that people were criticizing GG, which seems to be all some do. I wasn’t trying to referee, nor do I think it’s my place to settle every disagreement. I said as much to Ed:

    ME: “I know Geoffrey doesn’t need me to defend him, but I get more upset when I see others getting insults than I do when I get them myself.”

    I even gave a suggestion of how to disagree and save face without being mean. It’s not what we say but how we say it, and as Christians, we can do better:

    ME: “Why is it so hard to say, “MT was a good example to all of us, but it is sad that she didn’t share her faith with unbelievers”? You wouldn’t lose any face at all in pointing out the good she did while mourning lost souls. It’s more than just this one story, too. I see this vendetta to one-up Geoffrey Grider (or anyone with a different take on an article) in several people on this site. You/they can’t just say, “I disagree” and maybe back it up with some good argument; you/they have to hit below the belt and call him/us names.”

    I HAD to use your name in answering WF’s question as to why I lumped you two together so he would know what I was talking about:

    ME: “WF, you and Dianne have been supporting each other and getting on GG’s case in this thread, which is why I “lumped” you together with her.”

    Then I used your name to address you per a comment YOU made (what else would you have me do?):

    ME: “Dianne, I wasn’t referring to your post about the poor and unborn but your comments to GG. Maybe MT didn’t lead anyone to hell, but it doesn’t sound like she lead anyone away from it, either. Perhaps GG could have worded it better, but we all know the point he was trying to make. I’m not trying to fight with either of you; I just don’t know why neither of you can’t admire her good works while feeling bad that she didn’t share the gospel.”

    Seems to me like I was CONSTRUCTIVELY criticizing GG’s way of saying something and SUPPORTING YOU!

    Then I apologized, even though my intent wasn’t to upset you or WF. However, to you that’s never good enough. We’ve argued before and I apologized EVERY time. You NEVER have. You jump all over GG, especially if it even remotely has anything to do with Trump, but you expect respect all the time from everyone else. Even when you admitted I must have misunderstood your comments, you HAD to rip me a new one.

    YOU: “You have completely misunderstood my point about feeding the poor and standing up for abortion which I CLEARLY stated in my post. Please do not pull me into this foolishness. I made my point clear and I will not tolerate you or anyone making my post out to be something totally different from what my post reflected.”

    YOU “will not tolerate,” but everyone else has to tolerate YOU.

    As for Ali, I was making an observation, but you, of course, find some way to be offended by that. WHAT is so offense about me saying,
    “I don’t think either of you commented on that one, but I did and said basically that those who reject Christ in this life are unlikely to be with Him in the next.”?

    Finally, I WAS speaking of you when I wrote the following, even though I didn’t “pull you in” by using your holy name because you are one of the most easily offended people I have ever met—-and it wasn’t intended. You have to LOOK for it and you EXPECT to be offended:

    ME: “We all need to be more patient with each other, be slower to take offense, and not read into someone’s comments something that isn’t intended.”

    You always seem to be looking for a fight. I even said I wasn’t looking for one! I feel like I have to walk on eggshells with you lest I hurt your stubborn PRIDE. You do this time and again, and, schmuck that I am, I try to be a Sister in Christ to you, finding common ground (i.e. pro-life) and praising you when you say something I agree with. Why are you so TOUCHY when someone has a different interpretation than you do—and totally without malice? I have tried SO HARD to get along with you, and BAM!, one innocent comment gets you all lathered up.
    You are either very insecure or very narcissistic but I know you love the Lord and have a good heart. It would just be nice to see more of it!

    Therein ends my participation in this dialogue. If you wish to apologize, I will gladly retain fellowship. Otherwise, this has happened too many times, with you never backing down and me always being to one to take the higher road, and it’s not worth my sanity.
    Look within, Dianne.

  • Dianne

    DeniseC, maybe you should LOOK DEEP within your own life as to why you feel it is necessary for you to defend Geoffrey every time there is a disagreement. Geoffrey is a big boy now.
    I can post my disagreements about Trump like anyone else and you can disagree or not that is your choice and I respect that and you should respect my right as well. Maybe it stems from your family of origin and you have subconsciously transferred this behavior to this blog.
    Geoffrey dishes it out so he has to take what he puts out. He is often rude and unscriptural. I DO NOT SEE YOU correcting him EVER!
    You are not the one to tell others how to post. As usual you treat everyone that YOU disagree with like they are your children in a classroom.
    I would appreciate it if you would not tell me how I should respond on this blog or anywhere else.
    I have made it abundantly clear what I think about Catholic dogma in my own words and I do NOT have to word things according to your dictates. Please let this one die out as it did last night until you put you provoking 2 cents in again.

  • Jesus is Lord

    It’s becoming unhealthy. Leave the topic alone guys. Enough has been said about it.

  • Dianne

    Geoffrey every one that disagrees with you is not a troll. As you have often posted things that have no scriptural references. I made a simple and kind remark to With Fortitude and then you and Edwitness starting attacking us. I do not agree with anything Catholic, but I know personally how difficult it is to get Christians to serve the poor. She’s dead and God has the final say about all of us.
    Romans 9:15 ” For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.”
    My sincere prayer for EVERYONE is that they REPENT to GOD before they die of every sin that they committed for which everyone will have to give an account before the judgement seat of Christ.

  • DeniseC,
    There is no question that WF and Dianne were referencing things unrelated to Geoffrey’s post. It was as you said in that the context was that regardless of the so-called “good works” MT did, she did not believe that Jesus alone saves from death. A most important ingredient for someone who proffesses christianity. And because this is what she believed, she expressed it in her life through leaving people who were possibly physically helped in some way through her missions in a lost state. And going to hell.

    For this WF told Geoffrey he had lost his mind and accused him of not measuring up to her kind of goodness. And lied about me. Now that is maturity.

    If you would like to bow out that is ok. I for one appreciate your contribution. You have made yourself perfectly clear in what needed to be said. I think an apology from them for their anger and lies is appropriate. But, I do not expect one for obvious reasons.
    Thanks for your contribution sis. You are a blessing.
    Blessings:-}

  • DeniseC,
    Now that you mention Trump, something occurs to me. I saw a comment about him and his campaign store that said he was selling shirts that promoted the homosexual lifestyle. I made a comment about it before looking for myself to see if the shirt was really there. Well, shame on me, I have since looked there and sure enough it wasn’t.
    It makes me angry with myself that I would comment before checking for myself. But, I am making up for it now. I retract what I said regarding the t shirt in question and about Trump because of the false info. I’m still not sold on him but, I can say this much. If I was forced to make a choice between the two it would definitely be Trump.
    He did however have a homosexual speak at one of his rallies. 🙁 God is in control.
    Blessings:-}

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