NTEB In Round #2 Of Rapture Debate On Jesse Lee Peterson Show Live This Morning

Please join us LIVE this morning at 10:00AM EST, as we kick-off round #2 of the Pretribulation Rapture debate. This vital bible doctrine is under attack like never before...

Contending for the Blessed Hope!

Please join us LIVE this morning at 10:00AM EST, as we kick-off round #2 of the Pretribulation Rapture debate. This vital bible doctrine is under attack like never before because we are so close to seeing it come to pass.



TWO GUESTS: Street Preacher Geoffrey Grider of Now The End Begins in Florida will be holding to the biblical position of the Pretribulation Rapture, versus Pastor Martin Bledsoe of Babylon Forsaken Ministries in Kentucky who will contend for the Post-tribulation position. What is the rapture? Will we be physically taken up? Will Christians be raptured before the Tribulation or at the end? Is the whole Bible for us?

Don’t be left behind, tune in!



NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.

  • Nancy

    Dear Geoffrey: I am not able to acces the program, bu I believe the main objection to our pretrib position comes from the replacement theology crowd, along with all the usual suspects. The big push is coming from Christian Palestinianism. I must confess, I didn’t realize just how big this movement is.

  • Ron Murphy

    You are right, Geoffrey. It is under attack, like never before. People are waking up to the truth, more and more everyday. They are finally realizing we are not a special group of Christian, more holy than our ancestors, who suffered and died, and wait for the resurrection, for their blessed hope. Your teaching is like they don’t have the blessed hope. How long will you, be blinded by false doctrine of feeling good? Are you not secure enough in the Lord alone to take care of you as the Apostles did? Were they raptured? Was not the blessed hope for them, also?

    • Engineer

      Ron, you can argue and argue religion all you want with people but some will just continue to believe what they were taught to believe. I personnally don’t believe in this Pre Rapture but others do. One thing I will say is that although we may not agree on the same doctrine here, we are all still part of the family of God. That’s why I don’t argue doctrine with people.

      • Ron Murphy

        It’s not my place to judge anyone, but Jesus said many shall seek to enter in and shall not be able to. He also said why call me Lord, Lord and do not the things, I say. I hope you are right, brother, but I fear for some. How much blood will be on the hands of those that cause the weak to stumble and fall. Did Jesus say in Revelation not to mess with his words? Serious business, people are playing with.

  • Hey guy,i’m so gutted .Here i sit in good old England excited wanting to listen to the radio broadcast on pre/post trib rap! And guess what? I Can’t tune in to the radio discussion because it’s not recorded for later listening.For me to listen live ,i would have to stay awake until the small hours..Come on don’t tease us, think of us in Blighty!
    xxxxStill love you though.

  • Willard Aztec

    The Pre-Trib doctrine stems from a occultic seance with Margaret McDonald. Even Scofield scoffed at it in his 1909 study bible but adopted it later in 1917 I believe, when it became doctrine. It has become Satan’s most successful lie, convincing millions to just make some money and forget about preparing or witnessing, cause “We’re outa here!”

    The debate will soon be over. If the tribulation begins and we are still here the book writers are going to have a lot of crow to eat.If you want a logical expose’ of the Pre-trib fallacy, read Marvin Rosenthal’s Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church.

    • Guest

      I believe in the PTR, but I don’t think oh we are outta here so I don’t have to witness etc. I will still have to stand before God one day and give an account for how I spent my time here on earth. I have actually been sharing more with people since I started coming to this website because I can see how close we are to the end. I feel like I have to start telling people about Jesus because time is short.

  • Willard Aztec

    Oops, I should have said “…when it became POPULAR doctrine.”

  • How long will people who read the bible
    refuse to rightfully divide ? 2 Tim 2:15 !

    Pastor Bledsoe, does not rightfully divide !
    He can not distinguish the church from the
    Jews ! 

    Geoffrey Grider is 100 % correct, because
    he rightfully divides the word of truth therefore
    he can distinguish the rapture ( mystery ) that
    Paul revealed to the church ! 1 Cor 15:51-53 
    1 Thess 4:15-18 and the gathering of the Elect 
    in Mat 24-31, Mark 13-27. If this was the 
    rapture of the church, it would no longer be a 
    mystery when Paul revealed it, would it ?
    Why would Jesus tell them in Matthew, Mark 
    of the rapture of the church, then later 
    commission Paul to reveal the same mystery ? 
    Jesus does not, because they are two different 
    events ! One is the church, the body of Christ, 
    the other is the gathering of the elect after 

  • STL

    Wiilard: You said the Pre-trib was adopted in 1971, what would happen to your train of thought that the Rapture really does happen before the 7 year Tribulation. As you claiming this theory came out in 1909, but did not the Dead Sea scrolls was discovered in 1945 that proved the Old Testament scriptures.

    But if it does happen, I bet you’ll be on your knees crying to God why did I get it all wrong?

    • Engineer

      I think he said 1917. You may need glasses. :mrgreen: And yes, I actually heard the same story about Margaret McDonald. But like he said, The debate will soon be over. If you want to keep beating a dead horse go ahead.

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