History Channel To Air Special On Revelation, Pretribulation Rapture And The Great Tribulation

REVELATION: THE END OF DAYS is a gripping, dramatic interpretation of the Pretribulation Rapture and the Great Tribulation that follows after it....
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REVELATION: THE END OF DAYS

Behold, I shew you a mystery…

“And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.” Revelation 5:5

After watching the very well-produced trailer for the History Channel’s new series called REVELATION: THE END OF DAYS, I have to say that I was quite pleasantly surprised from a doctrinal perspective. Huge kudos to HC for putting the Rapture in its proper order as happening before the Tribulation. This is something that 75% of all bible schools and scholars cannot quite manage to get correct. Now I am excited to watch it when it airs on December 29th.

NTEB will do a full review of every episode and compare it to the King James 1611 Authorized Version Holy Bible for accuracy.

ABOUT THE SERIES: Almost 2,000 years ago, the final book of the Bible, Revelation, predicted that Christ would return but only after a period of chaos and torment inflicted on the world to test the faith of mankind. REVELATION: THE END OF DAYS is a gripping, dramatic interpretation of how the ancient prophecies of The Book of Revelation could unfold in our modern world. The two-night, four-hour event brings to life six fictional characters’ firsthand accounts of the “End of Days” events.

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REVELATION: THE END OF DAYS

REVELATION: THE END OF DAYS merges drama with re-purposed real news archive to thrust a group of fictional characters into an imagining of the Apocalypse. The program follows the dramatic stories of a TV reporter, a police officer, a doctor, a scientist and a college professor as they deal with chaos, war, earthquakes and a deadly pandemic.

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • Steve

    Oh yea the same network that has ancient aliens. Yep, let them be the experts. When TV preachers, hollywood, and masons all agree on something….RUN !!! Read your bible. Pre-trib invented in the 1800’s by masons.

    • Suzy

      How Funny…. I just about made this same comment! I have studied the tribulation theories, at least pre & post…. and after wanting the pre-trib rapture to be true, I found that it was not. Then I studied the agenda of the NWO, and see that they may create false flag pre-trib rapture of some sort. I conclude that maybe the whole pre-trib theory is satan’s doing, a manipulation of scripture.

      TH 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

      I fear for those who believe in a pre-trib rapture because I now believe they will be deceived.

      • Nancy

        I totally agree! The pre-trib rapture is false. I wish it weren’t, but it is. MANY will be deceived.
        My family has come out of the “church” system, most everything they tell you are lies!
        May YHWH God be with us all.

        • Suez

          Oh, and we all know everything on the History Channel is truth and 100% facts, right??? LOL What a laugh. Just yet another part of the deception to get people ready for anti-Christ. Believing this falseness is just a part of the deception that the bible talks about in the end times. “They will believe a lie, who want not the truth.” Paraphrase by me… Another lie that they will and do believe. Only those who really want the truth, will have eyes to see and ears to hear. If your looking for a escape, but not really looking for the truth no matter how unpleasant it may be to hear, your going to be deceived, if you have Jesus or not. Jesus said, “do NOT be deceived”, I’m sure he meant what he said. And Amen to the rest of you above!!! Thank God he has opened some peoples eyes, that have prayed for the truth, no matter if it didn’t go the way we would choose. I’d rather be out of here also, but, above all, I want the perfect will of God in my life! I feel pity for those who are teaching this deception, it will not go easy for them, leading many, many astray!

      • I was saved and babtisted (Enders Dam) April 24, 1954. I was 23. I love the LORD and know where I’m going when I die. Quit arguing and get out there witnessing to the lost souls. I’ve read every version of the BIBLE including the Witnesses and Mormon books.
        Just be ready as HE is coming soon. When JESUS comes isn’t important as we don’t know when…..so get busy harvesting souls !!!

    • STL

      Steve: If the Pre-Tribulation does happens, how will you really feel?

      • Ron Murphy

        STL, How you doing, old Friend. I would guess if the pretrib did actually did happen, then Steve and I, both would feel like you will when the post trib actual does happen, accept we might be a little more surprised, because you will at least get a little time to realize it. If we miss the rapture, then at least we have a chance to change. On the other hand, many are not prepared for tribulation as you and I are, so they will suffer greatly because of the lie of pretrib. That is the ones I worry about. I don’t want to see so much suffering, just because people would not prepare for it. When this film is believed and it will be, then the world will use it against the Christians, to prove they are farces. Pretrib will be a reproach to the church in those days and they will cry where is your Christ and others will say here he is in the secret chamber or there he is in the desert, Matthew 24:26

        • Heather

          Ron, I hear about preparing for tribulation, can you tell me, how does one prepare?

          • Ron Murphy

            Heather, the tribulation period is a time of darkness for all saints. Jesus referred to this as the night before his coming to get us, Matthew 25. He was not just talking to the Jews here. He’s says the door was shut and he is that door. At that time the Gentile dispensation is over. All that will be left, have taken the mark, and are doomed. Jesus told us to have oil ready for that night. So, I ask you what do you think you will need for that night, as you won’t be able to buy or sell without the mark. If you go buy, then you will most certainly have to take the mark and you will miss the rapture, because of the curse of being doomed, Rev 14:9-10. Jesus warns of this in Matthew 25, as a completion of his disclosure on the mount. He told you what it would be like for his coming to gather his elect. The door was shut on many that failed to heed this warning. The wise learned what he meant and they were not tempted to go and buy, Rev 3:10, because they know what he meant. Do you have a way to start a fire? Do you have anyway to get your own food? If you don’t your suffering will be great if you expect to endure to the end. If God had not warned Pharaoh of the famine to come, Joseph and all his family would of suffered peril. Joseph prepared, because he was a wise virgin.

        • mountain saint

          Ron Murphy, watch out for STL. He is nobody’s friend. He is Rev. Steven LaRue, the fallen preacher from Oregon, who has been threatening you, my family and others with death….Now he has posted my e-mail address on the internet and is trying to hack my files…Just be careful with this demon-possessed person.

          • Ron Murphy

            I had much dialog with him in the past, MS. Much more than you have had. We been sparring partners for a long time. I’ve just been giving Brenda my room here as I teach on You Tube, but since Brenda has takin a beating lately, I’m back to give her room to rest. I’m a little more toughened to the persecution of proclaiming what people hate, the truth. Thanks for the warning, though. May you lean on God for all understanding, Brother. James 1:4-5

  • MRH

    Problem is that the Tribulation is NOT the END OF DAYS, the Wrath is; time of the end, day of the Lord, harvest, hour of temptation, etc. The tribulation of saints precedes such global horror and ends with rapture. Scripture is quite clear on things, if one only properly interprets the prophecies 😉

    Job 14:13 KJV – O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

    Psa 21:9 KJV – Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.

    Eze 7:12 KJV – The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller mourn: for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof.

    Rev 11:18 KJV – And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    Rev 12:12 KJV – Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    P.S. The Beast and his kingdom and mark do not occur until rapture is over 😉

  • Allen

    I agree with Steve. Jesus said: ” And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”

  • Carolann

    I am looking forward to watching it 🙂 ~~~ for I~~believe in the Pre~ Trib Rapture 🙂 There are lots of scripture in the Holy Bible on the Pre~Trib Rapture. It is very exciting we are the gerneration that will see JESUS CHRIST ~~ Our LORD ~ KING~ and SAVIOR~~~We have been reading the Holy Bible for years ~~~ and we will finally get to see BEAUTIFUL~~ WONDERFUL JESUS CHRIST~~ just like the Disciples lived with him ~~We also will get to Live Forever with JESUS.CHRIST!! I ‘ m very excited ~~Jesus is Coming !!~~~ ” M y soul Doth Magnify the LORD~~ and My Spirit Doth , REJOICE in GOD MY SAVIOR “. (Luke 1:46~47) I Prqy for the PEACE OF JERUSALEM.~~ and GOD’S WILL To be DONE~~in Earth as it is in HEAVEN. AMEN!

    • I agree with you carol. The bible clearly te aches of a pre-tribulation rapture!!! Hallelujah, praise be to God, our redeemer and savior!!!

    • Yarah Sakal

      It is interesting that we talk about “per-tribulation”, “tribulation” and “great tribulation”. SO when does the “tribulation” start then? Is it exactly on the first day of 1260 days, the first day of the forty-two months (which are two different days)?

    • Shavanna

      Amen

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    • NeeCeeGee

      What? Children are innocent and they all will be taken by Jesus when the rapture happens Jesus said for a reason suffer not the little children to come unto me. Why would he cause children to suffer because of disobedient parents children are innocent until the age of accountablity. I think you need to read your bible more

      • STL

        NEECEEGEE: I always remember this saying the road to hell is a super highway , but the road to heaven is just a mere pathway. By all these comments many we be walking down that super highway.

      • Ron Murphy

        NeeCeeGee, Jesus was speaking of tribulation.

        Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

        • Janette

          COMPARISON:
          DAY OF CHRIST vs DAY OF THE LORD

          2015.12.13
          Are the rapture (DAY OF CHRIST) and the 2nd Coming (DAY OF THE LORD) the same day? Let’s compare scripture.

          DAY OF CHRIST: RAPTURE IN THE CLOUDS, JESUS CHRIST CAME, DIED ON THE CROSS, WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, & IS COMING BACK TO RAPTURE THE CHRISTIANS, CLOSING OUT THE PERIOD/DISPENSATION OF GRACE. GLORIOUS APPEARING, A UNITING OF CHRISTIANS WITH JESUS CHRIST, A JOYFUL EVENT!

          DAY OF THE LORD: 2ND COMING, WHEN JESUS COMES BACK TO EARTH, PLANTS HIS FEET ON THE GROUND, TO FIGHT THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON, ALL THE UNSAVED AT THE END OF THE TRIBULATION. JESUS DECLARES HIMSELF LORD, & KING. 1000 YEAR REIGN AS KING, ON THE EARTH.
          A DREADFUL, HORRIBLE EVENT! DEATH & DESTRUCTION OCCUR.

          DAY OF CHRIST:
          DESCRIPTION OF THE DAY OF CHRIST:
          1 Thess 4
          13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
          14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
          15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
          16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
          17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
          18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

          1 Cor 15
          51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
          52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
          53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
          54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
          55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

          OTHER SUPPORTING SCRIPTURE:
          DAY OF CHRIST:
          1 Cor 1.8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
          Phil 1.6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
          Phil 1.10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.
          Phil 2.16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
          2 Thess 2.2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

          DAY OF THE LORD:
          Zechariah 14
          1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
          2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
          3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
          4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
          5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
          6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
          7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
          8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
          9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be oneLORD, and his name one.
          10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
          11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
          12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
          13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
          14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
          15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
          16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
          17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
          18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
          19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
          20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD’s house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
          21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

          OTHER SUPPORTING SCRIPTURE:
          DAY OF THE LORD:
          Isaiah 13:6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
          Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
          Jeremiah 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.
          Ezekiel 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
          Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.
          Joel 1:15 Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
          Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
          Joel 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
          Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.
          Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
          Amos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of theLORD is darkness, and not light.
          Amos 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
          Obadiah 15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
          Zephaniah 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.
          Zephaniah 1:14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
          Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
          Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
          Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
          1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
          2 Corinthians 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are our’s in the day of the Lord Jesus.
          1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
          2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    • STL

      Ngar: Could this be Satan’s deception, that the Rapture will not occur, so it will be easier for Satan, to get you believing his way of lies? When the Rapture occurs before the 7 year Tribulation or Jacob’s Troubles. Post Tribbers lead us to believe their is a seperation in the Tribulation as the first half is for Satan and the 2nd half is for God. Then why does God called this period on time, ” Jacob’s Troubles,” because this whole 7 years of the most horrible time in our history is the wrath ( anger ) from God on all the unrighteous who refused to be obediate to God?

      • Ron Murphy

        God’s wrath does not come at a time of prosperity, for the world, the distress of nations come with God’s wrath, Luke 21:25, once the rapture occurs. Now show me where the wrath of God is on the wicked and it is after the tribulation. Jacob’s trouble did not begin with God’s wrath, it begin when they let the antichrist rule them. He make craft prosper in his hand, by his policies, the mark primarily and dividing the land. Dan. 8:24,25, also Rev. 18:3,7 as they lived deliciously. Well that is wrath, iving deliciously and prospering. Furthermore they are making a party at the end of tribulation, Rev 11:10. Jesus said they would do this. Luke 21:34, Matthew 24:38,49

  • Allen Hall

    Show me where the word Church is mentioned, starting in Rev. ch.6 (which is where the Antichrist shows up) up to and including Rev. ch.18. Let me help you out, it’s not there. Church (Bride of Christ) is gone. And, oh by the way the word rapture although not mentioned by name in the bible, but neither is the word Trinity, was preached before the 1800’s by Darby. In fact, it was preached in the 1700’s and some believe as early as the 1600’s. Look it up! The 7 year tribulation is called Jacob’s trouble and it deals with the Israelites not the Church. Oh by the way, Jacob’s name was changed to Israel (Gen. 32:28) and Jacob’s trouble (Jerem. 30:7). For me, I look forward to the Day of Christ not the Day of the Lord. I’m looking for a Blessed Hope not the Antichrist or the Mark of the Beast. Because that’s what I was told to look for! Remember anyone who takes the Mark of the Beast will lose their Salvation, I can’t cause I’m sealed until the day of redemption. That is why everything in the bible was written for you, but not everything in the bible was written to you..There are 3 types of people the bible was written to; Jews, Gentiles and Christians. Don’t take scripture out of content. Last, I don’t know of any Jewish bridegroom who beats his bride (goes thru the tribulation) before they are married. If you do, I’d like to see it. Have a nice day!

    • Marc

      I agree with you Allen and love your response. It appears from the comments on here that a great deal more Bible study is needed with the Holy Spirit as the teacher. There is plenty of scriptural evidence to support a preTrib rapture – it is just not spelled out and perhaps that is for a good reason. Pray for discernment and HS guidance all of you who think you must go thru it.

    • Ron Murphy

      Then show me where they are, Allen. They are no there, either. No, they are hiding because of the war with them, they can no long congregate as a church. They are know as saints at this point, and all nations have drunk from the cup that she is drunk with. Rev 18:3, Rev 17:6.

    • Ron Murphy

      True Michael, The Lord called it unrighteousness. It is arrogance that will send many to hell, because they will have to shed that pride if they make it through and many will blame God for not keeping, what they thought was his promise to them. They will blame God and turn their backs on him, The falling away! Just because they did not love the truth. But many also will change and welcome it once they see it. The work you are doing is a high calling, Brother. God bless you. Matthew 24:45-46.

    • Yarah Sakal

      I agree. Why are so many people sitting around waiting for the “Calling Up” or as we like to call it, Rapture. I believe we are in tribulation right now. One could even argue that the first five seals have been opened. The beasts have been shown to the world. Though we don’t know who both are yet, they are known to the world. Rev. 17 clearly identifies who one is and yes he has a name. The other will be identified soon and thus the seven years will begin. But that doesn’t mean tribulation has not started. We just need to look around us to realize that fact as we see the world falling apart around us, economically, socially, politically and most importantly morally.

      Could we not argue that those things spoke about in the first five seals have arrived?… white horse or anti-Christ, red horse or war, black horse or economic chaos, pale horse or sword, famine and death and of course the recent reality of martyrs. How many severed heads and other deaths at the hands of evil have there been in recent months? It doesn’t mean these things happen and then all of a sudden stop, they just continue to get progressively worse the closer we get to His coming.

      I believe we have quite a bit to endure before the “Rapture”. My question is this…how many will “decide” to stay back and harvest those left behind? Who will lead them to salvation once all us “good people” get taken up? That is the question we should be asking ourselves. Are we so selfish that we would rather sit on our couch and wait silently to be taken than to look beyond ourselves and work vigilantly to bring as many souls as possible with us until He, our lord and savior Jesus Christ takes us in His time…not ours. We are called to be His hands and feet. To be the light to draw those who are spiritually blind to salvation through Christ. We must remember that we can never work through Jesus Christ but that He desires to work through us. Basically we should be concerned more about helping those around us to meet Him instead of worrying about when He is going to physically take us.

    • Suez

      Great truthful, scriptural video,,, Michael Kezelevich. So very well done and tons of scriptures, instead of the one or two the prebies go by! Really confirmed for me a a lot the Lord has been showing me, by his Holy Spirit. Praise God! May the Lord show his truth to all who seek it, with a open heart and eyes!!! I know he will, he did it for me! 🙂

    • NeeCeeGee

      The foolish virgins are the ones in danger of losing hope in the rapture because they are not looking I disagree the pre tribulation rapture is biblical and I believe if people fail to look for Jesus to come for them . don’t worry he won’t

      • STL

        NEECEEGEE: When the Rapture occurs before the 7 year Tribulation begins, I wonder how many of the Post-Tribers will be on their knees, begging Jesus Christ why did not you take me too?

  • Allen Hall

    Jesus never said the Church would go through the tribulation or the Great Tribulation. Jesus, who was a Jew, told his Jewish disciples that the Jewish People would go through it…Know why?..Cause the Church doesn’t show up until Acts ch.2…Besides, I don’t think you’ll be able to get to the hills in Israel, if your in Nebraska (Matt. 24:16) when the Antichrist makes the desolation spoken of by Daniel, in the 3rd rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. And he (Antichrist), locks down all the airports, huh? But it’s a free country and people have the right and free will to chose what they want to believe…Yes, there is a pre-tribulation rapture (1Corinth 15:51-55, 1Thess. 4:13-18) and if your saved your leaving and if your not your staying, and remember if you take the Mark of the Beast you will lose your salvation, and if that’s the case, why does John 3:16, John 10:27-29 and Romans 8:38-39 all indicate you can’t lose your salvation. You know why, cause it’s not yours to lose, it’s a free gift when you accepted Jesus as your savior and since we have a Great King, Jesus, he doesn’t take gifts back, so you can’t return it. THANK GOD FOR THAT! Yes, once saved always saved during the Church Age! (However, that doesn’t give you the right to sin continually, there are consequences, called the Judgement Seat of Christ). Final thought, if you see two men show up in Jerusalem, (Moses and Elijah, not Enoch, Enoch didn’t do any miracles and he wasn’t with Jesus when he was transfigured) (Mark 9:2-4), they will be in sack cloth, then your in a world of trouble. Remember the first half of the tribulation is 1260 days and the second half is 1260 days (Jewish Calendar since we’re dealing with Jewish people and not a Solar Calendar, which everyone else uses, including the Church or Body of Christ). So, my question is, where is the mystery of the rapture in this? There is none, cause you would know Jesus has to return during this time period and at the end. That’s why the rapture or catching away is a mystery cause you don’t know when it’s going to happen. Anyone who preaches and or teaches there is no catching away (rapture) don’t know scripture, KJV (King James Version) and are doing a great disservice to the Lord and are doing more harm than good to the Body of Christ. We are to comfort one another until Jesus appears to bring us Home! We are waiting for somebody, Jesus (love his appearing) not something, like the Antichrist, New World Order (NWO) and Mark of the Beast system.

    • NeeCeeGee

      NO Jesus did not say the church would go through the tribulation that is not biblical . Rev 3:10 and I Thess 4 ya’ll need to read your bibles and let it stop collecting dust

    • STL

      Allen: Keep up the good work for Jesus Christ.

    • Ron Murphy

      I beg your pardon, Allen Jesus did said we would, you are mistaken!

      Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
      Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
      Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
      Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
      Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
      Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

      If Jesus was talking to just the Jews, why was it to his apostles, who founded the churches? Ok why did Jesus say unto all nation and then the end would come? Why did Jesus say that if those that got preach to, if they endure to the end they would be saved? Now think about this when you read:

      These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:33 KJV

      Act_14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

      • Ron Murphy

        How can the Kingdom be preach to all the world before the end comes if we are gone? If the kingdom was taken out, what’s the reason for preaching it?

        • Ron Murphy

          The Jews are not saved until after tribulation! That is to say the 144,000. Other Jews that are saved will go in the rapture at the end of tribulation. Because the time of the Gentile fulfillment is when they finally get they eyes opened, Roman 11:25

    • STL

      Santos: Your putting you body and soul on the line in your belief of the Post-Tribulation, what if you wrong, would you like to go into this horrible period of this Tribulation?

  • Although I hold to a ‘Post-Trib/Pre-Wrath Rapture’ understanding of Scripture, this will still be worthy of viewing. I have a 4-Part ‘Last Days’ series which begins with: http://zionsgate.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/the-day-of-christ-and-the-day-of-the-lord/ All subsequent posts linked at the bottom with arrows.

  • Marc

    I am not looking for Armageddon or the anti-Christ but am looking forward to the Blessed Hope, Titus 2:13 “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.
    If we are looking for anything else, the devil has stolen our hope! That is just one reason, there are many more scriptures to support the pre-Trib rapture if one studies deep enough and allows the Holy Spirit to reveal it.
    Maranatha!

    • elaine shealy

      Amen, Brother Marc. The scripture is so clear on pre-trib. We have always had tribulations but that is not the same as God’s wrath and He says we will not suffer. I’m so glad to see the Revelation program and pray that many will be saved because of it, including some of my own household. Blessings

      • MRH

        Uhmm.. the wrath is NOT tribulation, and the wrath is for the heathen 😉

        Eze 30:3 KJV – For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

        Luk 3:7 KJV – Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

        Jhn 3:36 KJV – He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

        Rom 1:18 KJV – For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

        Rom 2:5 KJV – But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

        Eph 2:3 KJV – Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

        Eph 5:6 KJV – Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

        1Th 2:16 KJV – Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

        — We the saints are saved from the wrath NOT from tribulations 😉

        Rom 5:9 KJV – Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

        1Th 1:10 KJV – And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

        1Th 5:9 KJV – For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

    • Ron Murphy

      Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
      Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
      Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
      Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
      Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  • Smoky

    2 Timothy 2: 7-8

    7) “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming …”

    And who will be taken out of the way? God’s Holy Spirit. He now is working that all men may be saved. Once the Rapture happens, He will be taken out of the way. Oh yes, people will still be saved during the great tribulation but by other means and it will be much harder for them. This is part of the tribulation and will be terrible.

    And why would God allow His church .. all believers in His truth .. to be punished, when the punishment is only meant to get the attention of the non-believers?

    Also, read Mat 24:30
    “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

    You should know after the first three chapters in Revelation, the church is no longer mentioned. Why? Because it (we) are at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb with Jesus Christ our husband.

  • NeeCeeGee

    Oh the pre tribulation rapture is very true all you have to do is read Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience I will keep thee from the hour of trial that shall come upon all the earth . also Jesus told us to pray to be found worthy to escape the things that is coming upon this earth. I have to question history channel every bible program that I have seen they seek to discredit the Word of God. Ha! In the days we are living in IdK about them who hate the bible doing a bible program as much crap we seen people try to do to the Word of God.

    • suez

      You need to look up what (keep thee) means neeecee. You may be surprised. 🙂

  • STL

    NeeCeeGee: When we accepted Salvation, the Holy Spirit enter us, to show us the truth? Just maybe, the ones says, does not see that the Rapture will occur before the 7 year Tribulation, actually the Holy Spirit never entered them in the first place?

    • STL

      Mark: So what your saying, your basing your body and soul, on the theory that we as believers will go into the 7 year Tribulation. Now, if your wrong and the Rapture does happen before the Tribulation begins, you’ll be left behind, you really think you’ll make it to the point of the Middle of the Tribulation to refused the Mark of the Beast? Because in the 1st half of the Tribulation 1/4 of the population of earth will die, and since you’ll never got the chance to refused the Mark of the Beast, you’ll will lose end up in hell?

      • MRH

        STL: The bible state no such 7 year tribulation. Only the second half of Daniels week is tribulation and of only living saints. The first half is temple worship and peace for Israel at least. The only left behind folk after rapture will be heathen. All believers depart in rapture. Read your bible and stop wildly speculating 💡 😉

    • Goldie

      Seems to be a lot of those around now days….Everywhere….Just watch TBN, and all the other stations.

    • Ron Murphy

      There is no such thing as a 7 year tribulation period in the Bible.

  • STL

    Mark will you risk your life on a theory of your Mid-Tribulation?

    • MRH

      STL: Neither my life nor my soul is in any danger unto my contrary beliefs, for I am a child of God, and no child of God in this age will face the wrath to come, only the heathen lot 😀

      Luk 3:7 KJV – Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

      Jhn 3:36 KJV – He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

      Rom 1:18 KJV – For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

      Rom 2:5, 8 KJV – But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; … But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

      Rom 5:9 KJV – Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

      Rom 12:19 KJV – Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

      Eph 2:3 KJV – Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

      Col 3:6 KJV – For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

      1Th 1:10 KJV – And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

      1Th 2:16 KJV – Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

      1Th 5:9 KJV – For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

      P.S. The salvation stakes are much higher tomorrow during the great trial 😉

    • SavedByGrace

      STL, you are not saved by knowing the sequence of events in the last days. You are saved by grace through faith. That faith is placing your trust on Christ alone. Ephesians 2:8-9. There are Christians who are pre-trib, post-trib and everything in between. When trials come whether Great Tribulation or person tribulation, a true child of God will be refined through that fire. Thanks.

  • Carolann

    Yep~~~~ The Pre~Trib Rapture ~~~will happen~~~ Lots of Scripture says so~~~ The Bride of Christ is not ment For God’s Wrath~~ Revelation 3:10 says Because thou hast kept the word of my patience , I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth this is the Mark of the beast in Rev 13: 16 And he causeth all ~ both small ~ and great ~ rich~ and poor~ free ~ and bond~ to receive mark in their right hand~ or in their foreheads in verse 17 And that no man might buy or sell ~ save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name ) and 2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of Iniquity doth already work ~ only he who now letteth will let ( the Holy Spirit) ~until he be taken out of the way (The Holy Spirit)~(The Rapture) ~ In Revelation 3: 7 ~ the 6th Church that gets Raptured this is the Church of Philadelphia in Rev 3:7~ also if you read Revelation 3:12 ~ I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the City of my God ~ which is New Jerusalem ~ which cometh down out of Heaven from my God ~ and I will write my New Name.( this is the New Jerusalem the place that Jesus made for to live there with him ~In John 14: 2~3 I go to prepare a place for you~(3) If I go and prepare place for you ~ I will come again ~and recieve you unto myself~ that where I am there ye may be also ~ this is the New Jerusalem J esus has made for his bride . In Matt 25 there are 5 wise Virgins that gets raptured because they were ready ~ and watching for the Bride Groom to come . The 5 Foolish were not ready they were sleeping like the world also in Matt25~~ There is also The 7 th church that gets left behind ~ it is the Laodicean Church in Revelation 3: 14 In verse15 It says I konw thy works ~ that~ thou art neither cold ~ nor hot~ I would thou wert cold or hot ~in verse 16 So then because thou art luke warm ~ I will spew you out of my mouth. this is the Laodicean Church that gets Left behind..

  • Allen Hall

    I know this, at the beginning of the 7yr. tribulation period the two witness’s show up. God gives the two witness’s (Moses and Elijah) power to prophecy for 1260 days in Jerusalem, (42 months, and since we are dealing with Israel, God uses a Jewish calendar). After exactly 42 months, The Antichrist overcomes them by killing them and letting their bodies lie in the street of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days (then they are raptured up, Rev. 11:12), which ends the tribulation period (Rev. ch. 11:3-12). So, to say the rapture happens here, is contradicting what 1Cor. 15:51 says. Paul says it’s a mystery (not known). The Antichrist can now enter Jerusalem, goes into the 3rd rebuilt temple and makes desolation of it, spoken by the prophet Daniel. He now pursues Israel for yes, anther 1260 days (42 months) Rev. 12:6. Remember the Antichrist makes a treaty with Israel for 7yrs. and in the middle of the 7yrs breaks it. Jerusalem is now under the Antichrist control for 42 months (Rev. 11:2), since it is now under Gentile rule (non-Jews), this ushers in the beginning of the Great Tribulation (last half of the 7yr. period). And at the end of 1260 days, Rev. 19:11, Jesus returns with what, Armies (meaning more than one, now I wonder who they could be..hmm). So, if you know these things will take place (future) how is it possible to consider the rapture a mystery? And the rapture can’t possibly happen at the end, what, we go up and Jesus is coming down for the 2nd Advent? This is why you have to apply 2Tim. 2:15, by rightly dividing your bible. The bible has proper divisions and dispensations, and if you apply them correctly you can’t go wrong. You don’t take scripture from one part of the bible and try to apply it where it doesn’t belong. That’s the problem. I would highly suggest that people get a concordance it does help. Also, see how many times the word church is used. Because the last time it’s mentioned is Rev. 3, just before John is taken (raptured) in Rev. ch.4, into heaven to witness Daniel’s 70th week (7yr. tribulation). Now, could this be an oversight on John’s part, whose writing these future events down that the church is not mentioned? The last reference the word church is mentioned is Rev. 22:16. Sure would be a huge oversight on John’s part not to warn the church (Body of Christ, Bride of Christ) what lies ahead for it don’t you think? Or could it be that the church is not mentioned, because it’s not there, gone? On a side note, heaven only opens twice in the book of Revelation, ch.4 John goes up, Rev. 19, Jesus comes down (hmmm….somebody goes up and then somebody comes down). Just something to think about. Also, remember this is Jacob’s (Israel) trouble (Jer. 30:7), not the church’s trouble. Israel rejected Jesus as the Messiah when he came the first time, however, they will accept him when he returns a second time.

    • Ron Murphy

      Sorry Kevin, no can do!

      • Ron Murphy

        Kevin, I can twist them and make them fit for you, as so many other do, but it wouldn’t do you no good like that.

    • Heather

      “Do not have so much pride that you are so positive that you are not prepared”
      I keep hearing from post tribbers about being prepared, my opinion is do not have so much pride that you are so positive that you can be prepared to go through the 7 year Tribulation! Lets see, how does one prepare? Stock up on essentials, food, water, medical supplies, guns etc etc. How long do you think you will be able to keep possession of these necessities? Where will you store them? A back pack won’t hold much as people will be forced to leave their homes. Are you going to reserve everything in your vehicle? How far will you get in your vehicle with all the road blocks and natural disasters?
      Bottom line Jesus instructed us to watch and wait for His coming, one who believes as post tribbers do, do not obey this instruction, because they don’t have to watch for His appearing, because to them it happens at the end!
      Jesus is coming back soon and I choose to watch for His Glorious Appearing as He told us to be doing. We are to be reaching the lost for Jesus before it’s too late. Theres not much iminence in that when one believes He’s not coming til the end of tribulation for His Bride!

    • Suez

      Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
      Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
      Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
      FIRST, it is important to know who the Bride is, before you can begin to know about the catching away. I don’t see the church called the bride here!!!!! 1Co_12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
      1Co_12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
      We are Christ body, not his Bride!!!! Please get your scripture straight. Please give me a scripture that says the Bride of Christ, is the Church.

      • Ron Murphy

        Very good, Sister Sue!

    • Heather

      Amen Keith!

    • Ron Murphy

      Brother!

  • Allen Hall

    All Mid-Trib and Post-Trib believers keep going back to Matt. 24…Here is a little knowledge, Jesus is Jewish, his disciples are Jewish. When the question is asked by his Jewish disciple, he answered them concerning the Jewish people, the disciples were not concerned about the gentiles, no where does Jesus mention or say that the tribulation is for the gentiles, this whole content of this chapter is almost entirely directed at the Jews. Its for the Jewish people (Jer. 30:7) who the tribulation is for. Since the Jews didn’t accept Jesus as the Messiah, he decides to send them a counterfeit and they believe the Antichrist is the Messiah and buy it hook, line and sinker. Also, the 1st resurrection (Harvest) has 3 parts to it…Jesus the firstfruits, Gleanings and then the Harvest, that’s why John doesn’t mention the 1st resurrection is completed until Rev. ch.20:5. So, Jesus goes up with the people in Abraham’s Bosom (Adam-Christ resurrection), then second part is the Rapture of Church Age Saints, and yes it happens before the 7yr tribulation, then 3rd is the Mid Trib Saints Rev. ch. 7:9-17, noticed they came out of or removed from the earth. Remember in Matt. 24:3 the disciples asked for a SIGN, Jews require a sign, Christians do not.

    • Ron Murphy

      Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
      Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

      There are more than just Jews involved here, Allen.
      Yes it starts in Jerusalem, but it also ends in Jerusalem. She is the Hore of Rev, as the antichrist rules from her and his armies tread her down.

    • Smoky

      Kevin Fagen, yes these are two very distinct and separate events. That is, unless the Bible contradicts itself which it does not.

      We are told to expect Jesus to come for us at any time (Rapturo or A Violent Removal), we just don’t know when, but are expected to be ready. The parable of the 10 virgins waiting is precisely what Jesus meant in Matthew 25:1-13:

      1“Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2“Five of them were foolish, and five were prudent. 3“For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, 4but the prudent took oil in flasks along with their lamps. 5“Now while the bridegroom was delaying, they all got drowsy and began to sleep. 6“But at midnight there was a shout, ‘Behold, the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7“Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. 8“The foolish said to the prudent, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9“But the prudent answered, ‘No, there will not be enough for us and you too; go instead to the dealers and buy some for yourselves.’ 10“And while they were going away to make the purchase, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding feast; and the door was shut. 11“Later the other virgins also came, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open up for us.’ 12“But he answered, ‘Truly I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13“Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.

      If you are not ready you may miss it.

      And the word Rapture is not in our Bible, true. But is taken from the Latin Vulgate. “Strongs definition for harpazo, which is the Greek word that is translated as “caught up” is as follows:

      726 αρπαζω harpazo har-pad’-zo
      from a derivative of 138; TDNT-1:472,80; v
      AV-catch up 4, take by force 3, catch away 2, pluck 2, catch 1, pull 1; 13
      1) to seize, carry off by force
      2) to seize on, claim for one’s self eagerly
      3) to snatch out or away ”

      In our Bible it is spelled out in::
      1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

      16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

      17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

      On the other hand, Christ’s second coming will be an entirely different event.

      Revelation Chapters 16 and on talks about many signs that will be pointing to Christ’s Second Coming. If you read them, you should see the difference between Him secretly coming to snatch believers away in an instant and these events that will last up to three and a half years, the Great Tribulation.

      You are very correct, there is only one Second Coming. But before that (I believe) there will be only one Rapture. I want to be ready. If I’m wrong, what have I lost? Nothing, only to be more ready for my Savior Jesus Christ.

      Shalom my friend in Christ

  • Suez

    A good quote from someone way above this list. ..”The rapture CANNOT happen until the dead in Christ are resurrected….., now Jesus tells us 4 times in John 6 when that is,…. even Martha knew when her brother would be raised …the last day !….!also Rev 20;5 tells us the first resurrection contains saints who have NOT taken the mark of the beast !! So it is obviously AFTER the Antichrist has persecuted Christians and CANNOT be before. or 7 years before, or it couldn’t be the first Resurrection !! ……and couldn’t be 7 years before as it couldn’t be the last day……and don’t forget its at the last trumpet…..so there cant be any trumpets after the last one !! …Paul even tells us the order of resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15;23…….First Jesus the first-fruits, then afterwards those at his COMING ……… not two or three comings there,… only one coming ..and that is why people should read and study their bibles and not listen to T.V. preacher’s making fortune.” Also for all you prebies that think others do not LOOK for Jesus Coming, you are so very wrong. I for one am eagerly, anxiously awaiting his return. So, you can keep your lie on that one!!!! 🙁 “2Th_2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; “1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (first resurrection)
    WHAT PART OF THESE VERSES ARE HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND??? THEY ARE REAL EASY!!!!!

  • Beaumont

    The progressive, cutting-edge of secular humanism no longer riles itself to deny the historicity of any religious claim, outrightly, so much as giving it a materialistic excuse.

    Atheistic punditry is unlikable and grinch-like. So, moral absolutism and sanctity are now tolerated on agnostic terms.

    Credible pastors will be interviewed, solely based on their celebrity status, will be given equal-time with assorted reprobates, who will attempt to explain the supernatural in terms of swamp gas and the light of Venus.

  • Caorlann

    For Suezy~ The Anti~Christ is going to persecute the people that~ MISS~ the Pre~Trib Rapture~~~ The Laodicean Church from the Book of Revelation 3:14. these are the people that are luke warm spoken about in Rev 3:15~16. In Matt 25 when it talks about the 5 FOOLISH VIRGINS~~ these represent the ones that were not Ready ~they were living like the world ~ and luke~warm. Read Matt 22:2 ~12 It is about the Wedding Dinner that was prepared for them ~BUT the Luke warm people were loving~ and living like the world~ and they didn’t hear the Trumpet Blast.1 John 2 :15~17 says Love not the world neither the things that are in the world~ If any man love the world~ the love of the Father is not in him . Read 16 and 17. The people that miss the PRE~TRIB RAPTURE~~ will be facing the Anti~ christ~~ NOT THE BRIDE Of CHRIST!!! Amen.

    • Carolann

      It should be Carolann ~~not caorlann. 🙂

  • mountain saint

    Everybody, there are no seven years of tribulation anywhere in the Bible…Yeshua completed the first half of the 70th week in the First Century before being cut off after only 42 months of ministry to the lost sheep of Israel (Daniel 9:26). Elijah and Moses will complete the second half in the 21st Century with their 1260 day ministry to the lost sheep of Israel (11th chapter of Revelation)…As for the 42 months of Great Tribulation, it will start in the midst of the seven covenant of Daniel 9:27, right afrer the Gog and Magog war of Ezekiel 38 and 39…When will the rapture occur? The gathering in the sky will probably occur in the shadow of World War Three (Ezekiel 48-39) so that the saints can escape from the wrath of God to come (Isaiah 57:1)…Do you realize that if God hadn’t taken the saints up to heaven at that time, they would have gone through 1260 days of God’s wrath and couldn’t come back with Yeshua at the Second Coming (Revelation 19:14), Keep looking up.

  • Ron Murphy

    MS, when will you realize the war of Ezekiel 38 & 39 is the battle of God Almighty, spoken of in Rev 19. This is the gathering of the nations, to fight Christ and his saints, as we rescue the Jewish remnant.

  • Carolann

    This is for Smoky~~ You know what you are talking about .You are right in what you said in your posting . You said it the way I believe Amen!!. I don’t have a Strongs Concordance I want to get one . I have heard that to what you said in your post about the word caught up ~~ people are expecting to see the word Rapture in the Bible in order for them to believe it will happen~ they have to see ~Rapture ~~.. God knew this too~~ thats why he put the word caught ~up in stead which means the same thing ) in the English language we have other words~~ that have the same meanings~~ but they are spelled different they are called~ Synomns~ God Almighty knew there would be ~UNBelievers that ~would have to see the word (Rapture) to believe in the actual Rapture~~like doubting Thomas he had to put his hands into Jesus nail prints~~ and hand in Jesus side to believe~ that Jesus rose from the dead ~ even though the other Disciples told Thomas they saw Jesus ~ and he came into the room with them~~ Thomas still didn’t believe them ~~ just like You ~and me~ and the other believers in the Pre~Trib Rapture~ we are telling the Non ~ Believers in the Pre~Trib Rapture ~that the Pre~trib Rapture will happen . They will have to see the Saints Gone before they will believe. Jesus says that Blessed are these that have not seen ~ but believe ~~ we that believe in the Pre~ Trib Rapture are Blessed we know the truth!!! The Non~ believers are like doubting Thomas ~~ And the Believers in Pre~ Trib Rapture are Blessed . 🙂 Blessing to you Brother Smoky. See you in the Pre~ Trib Rapture. Amen!

  • Allen Hall

    The bible does not contradict itself..Church Age saints (from Christ resurrection to the catching away (rapture) 1Cor.15:51-55 and 1Thess.4:13-18…you are save by grace thru faith, Eph.2:8..You are saved by believing on Jesus, John 3:16,36 John 6:47, Acts 16:30-31, Romans 6:23, Romans 8:38-39, Romans 10:9,13, John 10:27-29 (all versus are KJV) you can’t lose your salvation nor be separated from Jesus for any reason during this age. In the tribulation you will need to observe the Commandments (Law) of God and the Faith of Jesus Christ, Rev. 12:17 and Rev 14:12, this is what is called Works Plus Faith or die as a martyr (beheaded for your faith in Jesus). Anyone who is saved by grace and nothing else except the finish work of Jesus on the cross, doesn’t need to observe the law during the tribulation. And if I did go thru the tribulation (which I won’t), but if I did, I wouldn’t have to worry about the mark of the beast or observing the Commandments of God. Cause I’m saved by faith and believing on Jesus. That’s why 2Tim 2:15 is so important. You have to rightly divide the scriptures to get it right. That’s why the Body of Christ does not have to endure to the end, Matt. 24:13. And for all those who do go through the tribulation, you will not be at the Judgement Seat of Christ, Romans 14:10, 2Cor. 5:10. Only Church age saints will appear there…Since the bible doesn’t contradict itself, Salvation (not going to Hell) for a Church Age Saint is not the same for a Tribulation Saint, their Salvation is depended on Faith and Works or die a martyr or enduring to the end (Jesus’s physical return to Jerusalem to set up his 1000 yr. reign …And since they are different, that means there has to be an event to separate the two….Thus, the rapture will take place. Matt:24 1-51 was written to the Jews during the tribulation not the Church Age Saints, once you grasp that you can really understand the book of Revelation. The Wise Shall Understand. God Bless and Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and THOU SHALT BE SAVED!!

    • Allen Hall

      Mark, take a look at Rev.20, this is the 1000 yr. reign of Christ. Now look at verse 5. That’s the end of the 1st resurrection. The 1st resurrection has 3 parts to it, just like a harvest has three parts to it. Please look up a Harvest or a Jewish Harvest. The Jews were told back in the Old Testament, that the firstfruits of the harvest goes to God, The Second part is called the harvest and Third is the Gleanings, which would be bound up and harvested last.

      1Corn. 15:23-24 gives you exactly how that works:

      23 But everyman in his own order: Christ the first fruits; (Jesus resurrection) afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. (Rapture)

      24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (Rapture of Tribulation Saints) (Notice comes the end, not the end, and its not a play on words either)

      1. The firstfruits = Jesus takes all those in Abraham’s Bosom to heaven (1Corn. 15:20) (From Adam to the resurrection)

      2. Harvest= Jesus raptures us out, because we are looking for that blessed hope, and his glorious appearing, going up to meet him in the air (1Thess. 4:13-18, 1Corn. 15:51-55, Titus 2:13)(From the resurrection till ?, that’s why Paul calls it a mystery and this passage of scripture is not the same as in Matt: 24:36) In Matt. 24, Jesus is talking to JEWS, not the world. I don’t think you’ll make it to Petra located in Jordan, fast enough, if your in Nebraska. (Matt: 24:16)

      3. Gleanings= Rapture of Tribulation Saints (Rev. 7:9-14, Matt. 24:31-44, Rev. 14:1-3) Notice these people aren’t killed either, including the 144,00 Jewish Virgins (Rev. 14:3). Noticed they were either taken, redeemed or came out, not one was killed. The people that are killed during the tribulation, their souls are under the Altar. (Rev. 6:9-11, and they were beheaded Rev. 20:4). In case people think redeemed is an act of killing, ahh no, we as born again believers were redeemed by the blood of the lamb. (Jesus died for us, is how we got redeemed).

      The Saints that the Antichrist over comes are Tribulation Saints (the ones beheaded) not Church Age Saints, totally two different types of people. Rev. 13:7, these were the people who were left behind when the rapture occurred, and I believe they’ll know exactly what will happen to them if they take that mark, number or name of the beast.

      All of Matt. is aimed at the Jew, there is not one shred of evidence that this is aimed at the Body of Christ, or Christ’s Church or the world (right now world hates the Jews, in case you haven’t been watching the news). Look at Matt. 24:15, (in fact the Church or Body of Christ, wasn’t established until Acts 2).

      15 When ye therefore shall see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

      I don’t know any saved Christian, who believes blood sacrifices in a Jewish Temple washes their sins away. When the Jewish Third Temple is rebuilt, animal (blood sacrifices) will resume. The Jewish Religious Leaders (in the Gospels and Acts, where Stephen was stoned to death) never accepted Jesus as their Messiah, and that’s why, the blood sacrifice will come back during the 7yr tribulation. Jesus was the final sacrifice. That’s why it’s really important to rightly divide the word of truth, 2Tim. 2:15.

      Finally, The whole bible was written for you; however the whole bible wasn’t written to you. The HOLY BIBLE has dispensations, and proper divisions or places. And in those dispensations and divisions, the bible is either written to a Christian, a Jew or a Gentile.

      I can find numerous scriptures where the Jewish people (Israel) will go through the tribulation, but, I challenge anyone reading this, to show me or point out in scripture (KJV), where the Body of Christ is mentioned and goes through the 7yr. tribulation or find the word Church and show me where it’s mentioned from Rev. 6 (when the antichrist shows up), this is the start of the tribulation period and up to and including Rev. 18 in a KJV. I’ve looked and it’s not there. Which is exactly what will happen in a few short years at the rate this world is headed and where it’s going, the Body of Christ won’t be here either! Poof! Gone! And if someone says, “Well what if your wrong”? Nothing, I’ll be a little disappointed, but, hey, I was told to wait upon the Lord, and I’ll keep doing just that, waiting on Jesus’ return (appearing in the clouds). However; the real question is “What if the scriptures are right and all those who believe there is no rapture wrong”?

      Side note: There is a crown of reward for loving his appearing, 2Tim. 4:8. The Judgement Seat of Christ is going to be something!

      Come quickly Lord Jesus, Come quickly!!

      • MRH

        Allen: The thing is that the bible doesn’t state any 7 year tribulation, only a 3.5 year tribulation period, after which wrath periods begin. Also called the end and day of the Lord. And yes the harvest begins with rapture and ends at millennium. Another thing is that tribulation is really deception and persecution of saints not global destruction. So whom is affected and how is determined by their location and involvement in tribulation. For certain Israel will be a danger zone, and as well the focal point throughout tribulation.

        However the global mark of the beast doesn’t occur until wrath period. Which is the hour of temptation and end of the harvest for the martyrs. The last part of wrath is Gods judgment and destruction of the beast and his kingdom, of which the heavenly saints play a major part. The list of saints in glorious event will comprise all from Adam through the wrath martyrs. And the gathering event occurs in heaven not on earth, but we won’t understand things until rapture prevails.

        Anyway, I believe that God is going to use the living saints during tribulation to convert the living heathen Jews. But there are still many mysteries left to unravel, and so all we can do yet is watch wait and see what transpires on the world stage, and especially with Israel. We can’t change bible prophecy, nor does bible prophecy fit our beliefs, but is of it’s own determination. But for certain many of the signs Jesus and Paul predicted have and are still unveiling by the day and hour even. Do you see my logic here?

        • Allen Hall

          Yep, I see, but please read what God does to the Earth with all the destruction he sends. Fire hail stones mingled with blood weighing a 100 lbs., a star (probably an asteroid) called wormwood that poisons the water, and the lists goes on and on. But for the most part your right, however; people need to stop running or going to Matt. 24 and say see, the Church or Body of Christ goes through the tribulation, and everyone who is alive goes through it, which clearly it doesn’t say that. In fact, there’s not even a mention of the Body of Christ or Church, in that whole chapter. It’s aimed right at the nation of Israel. Anyway, here is the 7 yr. tribulation period, it’s just not spelled out. You have to look for it. So, I’ll help you. First, the 7 yr. Tribulation/Great Tribulation period is called Daniel’s 70th Week, Daniel 9:24. Do some research on this topic, as 69 weeks have already be completed and we are now entering the age when that last week will appear, when that is, no one knows, but it will be soon, and it will usher in the tribulation time period, of 7 yrs. This is also called Jacob’s (name changed to Israel)trouble, Jerem. 30:7, not the Body of Christ or Church’s trouble. The first 3 1/2 yrs. is called the tribulation and the last 3 1/2 is called the great tribulation. This one week period is 7 yrs., where the Antichrist will make a peace treaty or covenant with Israel for 7 yrs., then in the middle of it he will break it, Daniel 9:27. The first half is in Rev. 11:3, God sends his two witnesses (Moses and Elijah) to prophesy 1260 days (42 Jewish months) or 3 1/2 yrs. Since we’re dealing with the Jewish nation, we use a Jewish calendar, which is 30 days = 1 month x 42 months= 1260 days. The witnesses basically keep their enemies from coming into Jerusalem, and have power to turn water to blood and shut heaven that it not rain during that time period, 3 1/2 yrs. (or 1260 days of their prophecy) (Rev. 11:6) As long as the witnesses are alive, the Antichrist can’t enter Jerusalem. The Antichrist over comes the two witnesses by war and kills them, Rev. 11:7-9. The Antichrist now occupies Jerusalem for 1260 days, Rev. 11:2, Daniel 8:13-14. The Antichrist now occupies Jerusalem. Once he does enter, the Antichrist desolates the Temple. Now, Israel flees to the mountains for 1260 days (same amount of time the Antichrist occupies Jerusalem), Rev. 12:6, because the Jews were warned in both Matt. 24:15-16 and Daniel 9:27 about the Desolation of the Temple. I believe the mountains are Petra in Jordan, where the Jews will now have to wait 1260 days, for Jesus to rescue them from the Antichrist. Jesus shows up and rescues the Nation of Israel from total destruction, Rev. 19:11. As for the Great Tribulation, it’s mentioned in Matt. 24:21. So yes, there is a 7yr. period. Daniel 8:13-14 is the desolation time period, and it tells you how long Jerusalem will be occupied (1260 days). If you don’t have one, I highly encourage you get a Strong or Young’s Concordance to help with scriptures…I use a Strong’s. Also, Clarence Larkin has a book called Dispensational Truth. This book has great info with lots of charts to help with End Times study.

          So, this is what you have when the 7 yr. tribulation or otherwise called Daniel’s 70th week and/or Jacob’s trouble will start:

          Two witnesses= 1260 days or 3 1/2 yrs.
          Antichrist in Jerusalem and Jews in the mountains= 1260 days or 3 1/2 yrs.

          So if your still here when the rapture happens…I highly suggest you get PLENTY OF WATER BOTTLES FILLED WITH WATER!! 3 1/2 yrs. with no rain is a very very very long time!!

          Have a great day!

          • Guest

            Thanks you are very knowledgeable. I hope you keep posting.

          • MRH

            Allen: There are numerous speculations concerning bible prophecy, but we really don’t yet understand most of it. For one thing, much of bible prophecy is symbolic or figurative. Also the bible doesn’t yield all end time knowledge, in fact only a mere fraction of things.

            Anyway, to get to the bottom of end time matters, one must first understand the Illuminati and secret societies which rule the world from the shadows. And what their future diabolical global plans are. Did you not know that the Illuminati was behind 911 and many other dark things, and controlling today’s varied society systems. The AC and FP are tied into the NWO, or were you not aware of fact?

            P.S. Below is a snippet of the real world hidden knowledge 😉

            The street design in Washington, D.C., has been laid out in such a manner that certain Luciferic symbols are depicted by the streets, cul-de-sacs and rotaries. This design was created in 1791, a few years after Freemasonry assumed the leadership of the New World Order, in 1782.

            In Europe, occult leaders were told by their familiar spirits as early as the 1740’s that the new American continent was to be established as the new “Atlantis,” and its destiny was to assume the global leadership of the drive to the New World Order. The United States of America was chosen to lead the world into this kingdom of Antichrist from the very beginning. The capital is Washington, D.C., which is evidenced by the preponderance of occult symbols.

            http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/dc.htm

      • Heather

        Allen Hall: What you wrote was beautiful and true! Thank you for the time you put into this! This is one of the best layouts I have ever seen. God bless you.

  • mountain saint

    Ron Murphy, I hate to dispute with you but if we Christians can’t agree on Revelation, then how do expect the sinners and pagans (Catholics) to find the truth on this subject. Biblical things have to be spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14)…For your information, Ezekiel 38 does list the nations involved in World War Three and Ezekiel 39:6 includes the United States. This war will be fought “east” of Jerusalem (Ezekiel 39:15) and before the Great Tribulation…And twenty-nine months into the Great Tribulation, World War Four (Revelation 9:14-29) will break out and be fought for 13 months before ending up in Armageddon “north” of Jerusalem (Revelation 16:12,14-16). At the end of this war of East vs. West is when Yeshua will come back with us saints and defeat the enemy with just the word of His mouth (Revelation 19:11-19).

    • Ron Murphy

      That may be true MS, but if they don’t find the truth then what good would it be to them.

      • mountain saint

        Ron Murphy, if Christian escahatologists can’t agree on the future chain of events, then how can these worldly people figure out the future from a biblical perspective? The Bible is the only source of truth…Even Hal Lindsey is stuck behind the curve with his outdated seven years of tribulation and rapture before these seven years…Eschatology has to be reflective of the realities of the 21st Century.

        • Ron Murphy

          I was the first to declare a 3 1/2 year tribulation on this sight. But not many would listen. Hal Lindsey was a stronger voice. Jesus said I come not into this world to bring peace, but a sword. We can not change, what the masses believes, we can only hope to get the truth out and hope they find it. I’ve paid my dues, and with God’s permission, I proceed.

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    • Suez

      🙄 Wow Terri, you need to stop listening to all those so called teachers, and pray God open your eyes to his truth only. That is what I did, and the Lord really surprised me by doing so. You may not want to believe it, but if you seek for his truth only, and not mans interpretation of it, he will give it to you dear. 🙂

    • Ron Murphy

      Terri, Jerusalem is the wilderness, she is the one that is made desolate, and become the habitation of devils.

      Dan_12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

      Isa_64:10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.
      Jer_9:11 And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.
      Jer_10:22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.

      Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

      Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

      Dan 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;

      2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

      • Ron Murphy

        The 144K, are fed in the wilderness, Rev 12:6,14, by the 2 prophets from the streets of Jerusalem. Rev 11:1-3,8. Jerusalem is called the wilderness because she is desolate of God and because the habitation of devils. Jesus said when you see the abomination, make her desolate, FLEE!!! Matthew 24:15-16.
        Jesus also said in Luke, when you see the desolation, it is just after the treading of the city Jerusalem begins, Luke 21:20 Jerusalem is the desolate wilderness. She is the harlot, that is adulterous to God because of her abominations.

    • Suez

      Amen Terri!!!! Amen!!!! HollyWeird would NEVER promote a true doctrine!! They always twist and turn the scriptures, to bad many Christians, do the same thing, thinking they are helping the brother n, but in reality they are promoting false doctrine. Very sad and serious for them, to lead anyone astray and give them false hope. Our hope is in Christ, but he warned us what to look for before his coming, to bad many are still looking for a escape instead of for the truth!

  • frodo baggins

    i wonder why these anti-pretrib rapture ALWAYS, in most all cases, got the first comments before the believers of a pretrib rapture. are they pissed-off or something?

    • Ron Murphy

      No, Frodo, just trying to stop the deception. Wouldn’t you save a soul from hell fire if you could? Did you ever consider it was done in love for our fellow brethren? And we don’t want them to suffer as greatly as they have to, because they were foolish virgins. Get prepared for the night, Jesus said it was coming, and so it will.

  • Allen Hall

    People who are Post-Trib or Mid Trib haven’t posted a single versus of Biblical scripture (KJV) that mentions the Church or Body of Christ going through or in the 7yr. Tribulation. If you have one please share (KJV only please), not scripture that is aimed at the Nation of Israel, (Matt. 24.). That’s Jacob’s Trouble (Jer. 30:7). And in case you didn’t know, Jacob’s name was changed to Israel (Gen. 32:28). This is not the Body of Christ or the Church’s trouble, I’m a New Testament Christian (Church Age Saint) not a Tribulation Saint. I know what’s coming and if your staying after the Rapture your going to be in a mess. Especially, when God’s two witnesses, Rev. 11:6 (who just happen to be located in Israel) turn the waters into BLOOD and there’s No Rain for 3 1/2 yrs. If your here, then I highly advise, you stock up on Plenty of WATER, cause brother, your going to need it. And for all those who think the book of Revelation is figuratively, boy your in for a shock, when it literally comes true right off the pages like God said it would. Finally, the reason they (Post/Mid Trib supporters) can’t post any scripture that shows the Church or Body of Christ going through the 7yr. Tribulation period cause there isn’t any scripture to support it. There’s plenty of scripture that shows Israel and the unsaved world going through it. Because, I find it funny, John in his writings of Revelation doesn’t mention the Church or Body of Christ from Rev. 6 up to and incld. Rev. 18. That’s because they aren’t there!

    Are you Rapture Ready? Be ready, in a twinkling of an eye! Have a Nice Day!

    • Goldie

      Better plan on waiting a bit longer, Allan. Your eye won’t be twinkling until the last trump. 1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 🙂

      • MRH

        The 7th angel trumpet is the rapture, but also the beginning of wrath. Before that the 6th angel trumpet must sound, and so far it hasn’t.

        • Goldie

          Yes, Mark, I am WELL aware of that!!! Thank you. 🙂

      • Allen Hall

        That’s right Goldie, but it won’t be long, as we get closer and closer to Jacob’s Trouble or the 7yr. Tribulation, this is not the Church’s or Body of Christ trouble. This Age is going to close and the Tribulation Age will open for those who miss the rapture. We (Body of Christ) look for that blessed hope (Titus 2:13), not the Mark of the Beast system. We’re look for somebody not some thing.

        • MRH

          “This Age is going to close and the Tribulation Age will open for those who miss the rapture”

          @Allen Hall: Tribulation age? After rapture is wrath period! Also; end of world, day of the Lord, etc. The harvest begins at rapture, and ends at millennium. Do you not understand?

    • MRH

      Allen: See above video playlist as unto; past, present, and future mystery knowledge 😉

      Although bible prophecy is indeed true, it still can’t contradict reality! As for symbolism and figurative aspect, it’s also very real, but not exactly as imaged in the prophetic visions. Also there is no living escape for those caught in wrath, as there will be no safe haven on earth by then. The Illuminati are not fiction nor are the NWO, and their global reign will prevail for a short time as allowed by God.

      Lucifer is their god and unholy power source, and their final goal is depopulation and enslavement! The mark of the beast will be the DNA enhanced RFID chip, and will be used to control and enslave the remaining population.

      All whom reject the NWO will be killed, and beheading is their plan after nuclear holocaust effect. FEMA camps will be used, and HAARP is already in operation now. How naive are you brother? 911 was by the elite, whom also intend to secretly destroy America. Do you deny these truths brother?

      P.S. Few have true knowledge unto end time mysteries, but I guarantee things above will prevail. However the worst things will occur after tribulation, as the wrath is the time of global horror! Are you still asleep? If so, no worries, as most above is yet future, but coming soon!

    • Ron Murphy

      All that are saints are his body, he is the vine we are the branches, be it we be Jew or Gentile. We are the Church and before the Gentile being grafted in, the Jews were the Church Not to say the church is not mentioned is saying there is no saints mentioned. I say this give me one verse to show us in heaven that did not suffer greatly for Christ, as he did in persecution, Just one! Is that to hard, one. It is unrighteous to fulfill the desires of the flesh. Pretrib is just that.

  • Suez

    Just a question for all you scholars…:-) If the church is taken out before the tribulation, then why is it, the only Christians mentioned in Heaven the martyred saints, in the 5th seal, and the ones that have came out of Great Tribulation? Just wondering. I don’t see any others. Hmmm Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
    Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
    Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
    Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
    Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
    Just needing some help finding the Church in Heaven. Verses please, would help me to understand greatly!!! Thanks 1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    I looked it up, seventh means last one out, or final. I do believe there is only one raising of the dead saints, isn’t there??? Last I knew there was only 7 trump’s in Revelation. So, to me this is pretty self explanatory.

    • MRH

      Suez: Do I dare interfere with you here dear sister? Ok I won’t ask permission, as your call unto biblical debate? The 7th trumpet is indeed the rapture? Which means prior trumpets must be prior sounded? And if the 5th seal is the martyrs, then prior seals must have also been opened?

      So the big biblical question is, which; church, trumpet, and seal.. prevails today? Do you want my whatever honest speculations, or are your ears/eyes/mind forever shut unto my varied end time visions?

      P.S. I only understand as the Lord guides me into the mists of holy mystery 😉

      • Suez

        Mark, I was asking in a slightly sarcastic way…because of those that think they are rapture-ed out. I wanted them to show me where they are in Heaven, according to Revelation… I only see the Martyred, so I wanted them to tell me where they are, those that are rapture-ed out before the great tribulation. I’m not mixed up. But, thanks for asking…;-)

        • Ron Murphy

          Sue, That is exactly right, because they are so confused they think we are. And as far as any other person ever being in heaven no one, but those that greatly suffered or was killed for the word of God. All others besides these will not see heaven, until the new earth is made, when the old one is destroyed, after the final resurrection, Rev 21:1. People want to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. I always liked that song! So be it, if we see heaven it will be because we are as Christ, whom suffered for us.

          • Guest #2

            Yes, agreed. The Lord has been showing me that in the word. At first, I didn’t want to believe it. But as I read and re-read I can’t deny it…:-( I am praying for his truth as I read and study, no matter if I like what I’m seeing or not! His will, not my will!!! 🙂

        • MRH

          Suez: There are three classes of holy martyrs; past, present, future. And class depends on prophetic timeline. Those of the past biblical ages were the prophets and apostles. Those of the present modern ages were/are of the; crusades, holocaust, and now Islam and such. Those of tomorrow will be those whom resist the beast and his mark. How much clearer must I be in controversial ‘martyr’ matter?

          P.S. The church age ends with rapture, which precedes beast and mark!

          • Ron Murphy

            You are so goofed up, Mark.

          • Ron Murphy

            Then just who in the world are the saints, he makes war against?

          • MRH

            @Ron: Obviously the saints alive at tribulation time? He certainly can’t war against dead saints can he? The church are the only saints of this age, and only a portion will be alive then. The majority of saints throughout the ages are dead awaiting the resurrection. But tribulation isn’t the end of the world, the wrath period is the end. The church is the first to depart, with the latter saints later. Don’t you get the picture?

          • Ron Murphy

            Mark, did you miss the part , “I know you not”?

            Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
            Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

            Now, either he knew them or he didn’t, you can’t have it both ways.
            If they where saint, he had to know them, for he knows those that are his.

          • MRH

            @Ron: A saint is simply a believer or Christian by definition 😉

            Lexicon :: Strong’s G40 – hagios = most holy thing, a saint

            P.S. The prophets and apostles were all saints, the Jewish leaders and Gentiles were not saints. Also those whom still live under the law are fallen from grace 😉

            Gal 5:4 KJV – Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

          • Ron Murphy

            Quote Mark Hodge,
            P.S. The prophets and apostles were all saints, the Jewish leaders and Gentiles were not saints. Also those whom still live under the law are fallen from grace. Unquote.

            Mark, you teach confusion and discord. You make no sense at all. You curse yourself in doing so.

            1Co 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
            1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

            1Co_12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

          • MRH

            “Mark, you teach confusion and discord”

            @Ron: The church are not the only saints listed in the bible 😉

            Deu 33:2-3 KJV – And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them. Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words.

            1Sa 2:9 KJV – He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.

            Job 15:15 KJV – Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

            Psa 16:3 KJV – But to the saints that are in the earth, and to the excellent, in whom is all my delight.

            Psa 31:23 KJV – O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer.

            Psa 37:28 KJV – For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.

            Psa 50:5 KJV – Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.

            Psa 97:10 KJV – Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

            Psa 148:14 KJV – He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the LORD.

            Pro 2:8 KJV – He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

            Dan 7:18 KJV – But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

            Jde 1:14 KJV – And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

            P.S. It seems that your biblical knowledge is quite lacking 😉

          • Ron Murphy

            No, Mark, I’m not confused,I know what it is to be a saint you have not taught me anything. Nor did I say the Jews were not the saints of Old Testament. You are an accuser, Mark. Silly of you doing so. You seek your own, Mark. You are a hireling.

          • MRH

            No Ron, YOU are the accuser here, as you attacked my rebuttal to Suez’s reply to me. But then what else is new with you? 🙁

          • Ron Murphy

            Mark I rightfully accuse you of being a false teacher and I will fight you for the truth. You are a confused man spreading confusion and discord. Teaching you anything is a waste of time, but it not a waste of time warning others about you. You care nothing for the truth , saying it can’t be found, yet you shun the truth, and call it a lie. Then you claim to be a Christian? No Mark you are a false prophet, Jesus said that you could deceive many. God gives understanding to those that seek him, in earnest, but not to a drunk. Anyone making alcohol or drugs there God has no understanding or fear of God. Anyone that would follow you might as well follow the Pope. You want to teach but you haven’t sought God for it , you learn from You Tube videos. In which that is not all bad, but it’s not God, unless the anointing is here.

          • MRH

            “Mark I rightfully accuse you of being a false teacher and I will fight you for the truth”

            Ron: I hold a mirror up to your reviling accusations 😡

            You are a haughty, hateful, and hurtful person. You need to really examine your dark self in the mirror, it just might shock you to your senses 💡

            Neither Jesus nor Paul went about accusing the brethren. In fact Paul condemned all such evil social activity repeatedly. The accusers were the wicked Jews not the apostles. But I’m sure you know the scriptures? BTW Satan knows the bible too.

          • Ron Murphy

            Mark, I’m not nice to wolves!

          • MRH

            Ron: Sheep are never mean, also humble, and gentle. None of such traits fit with wolves. Wolves are ravenous creatures, and that profile fits you perfectly :mrgreen:

            Oh and please don’t break the holy mirror as you depart back unto your raving pack 💡 😉

            P.S. If you were God I’d rather have not even been born 🙁

    • Ron Murphy

      Rev 15:2

  • Ron Murphy

    The 7th trumpet is not the last trump Paul was referring to. The 7th trumpet is way after tribulation, as none of the 7 trumpets are blown in the tribulation. They are blown after tribulation and after the rapture, which the rapture is in the short time, directly between the two events of tribulation and God’s wrath.
    Many teach the seals and trumpets are all different events. This is from lack of study on their part. The seals are the complete end time story unfolded. The first two seals are the Antichrist coming into power, and the next three are the continuing of the antichrist, which is 42 months of tribulation, Rev 13:5. Then the rapture( reaping or gathering), is during the 6th seal.

    Now here it is.

    The 7th seal are the 7 trumpets. Simple as that. So quit being confused about that. Every brick laid out of place causes more problems later. So, learn what is solid, and build on that.

    Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
    Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

  • Ron Murphy

    Rev 15:2 and Rev 7:14 are both before the judgment plagues of God’s wrath are experienced upon the earth.

    Example: In Rev 6:17 they know the wrath had comes, but the hurting as the angel of Rev 7:2 called it, doesn’t start until we see the 144K sealed on the earth, Rev 7:3, and the saints are seen in heaven before God’s throne, Rev 7:15.
    So when does the hurting begin? Well the angel said hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, until we do the sealing of the 144K. So when does this hurting take place? In the sounding of the trumpets.

    Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
    Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
    ECT.

    There at the 5th trumpet, it was told that they should not HURT the earth or sea, but all the people that did not have the seal of God.

    Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

    The saints are in heaven, watching, as this goes one, Rev 7:14,
    And the 144K are on earth, protected by God’s seal. The saints are in heaven before any trumpet of judgment is blown. The last trump is to signify the end of Gentile dispensation, the Gentiles have fulfilled their time and it time to wake the dead. No one is saved after this event, except the 144K, which get saved just after this sounding last trumpet. Jesus said when you see these signs, Luke 21:25,28,31, look up.

    • Ron Murphy

      The mark of the beast is not God’s wrath. It is tribulation. One purpose for the mark is because the saints won’t take it and he knows that’s how he gets to punish them for not worshipping him. If Jesus is talking to just the Jews in Matthew and not the Church, then we know all the Jews will be saved when the Gentile fullness comes in, Romans 11:25 and we know when that happens all the Jews are saved, Romans 11:26. So who are these:

      Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
      Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

      If this is just the Jews & they were all saved, wouldn’t he know them? Do he not know those that are his? This can not be the Jews! But the saints are the wise. Christians, if you will. Those that hear his voice, the elect, that he has chosen.

      • MRH

        “The mark of the beast is not God’s wrath”

        @Ron: If so, then which does it indicate ‘wrath of God’ concerning ‘mark of beast’ topic? 😉

        Rev 14:9-11 KJV – And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

        Rev 14:19-20 KJV – And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

        • Ron Murphy

          Mark, God’s wrath doesn’t indicate the mark of beast. The mark of the beast indicates tribulation. You fault is you are taking it all chronologically. The fact is nearly ever chapter covers some portion of the tribulation, or shows the after effect of it, which is God’s wrath. God’s wrath is the hurting of the earth, and the sea, and the people of the earth, Mark. The mark was during tribulation nor the hurting of the earth. To begin with you must realize that Rev 6:12 is the same event as Matthew 24:29. If you do not, then you are on the wrong block for building understanding. Once you realize that you should know that Rev 6:12 is immediately after tribulation. If you do not then you haven’t studied enough. So what this means is those saints under the altar in heaven are those that will be waiting on the tribulation saints to be killed as the were, Rev 6:11. And we see them in Rev 7:14, just after the rapture of 6:12. Then we see them of Rev 6:17, saying his wrath has come and so it did in the form of 7 trumpets. Christ reign on earth t the 7th trumpet, Rev 11:15. Wrath is over and finished with the plagues of the 7th trumpet, the mighty earthquake and the great hail. ending it all. Now we start over with a new vision of what we just went over, Going back into the tribulation chapter 12, giving more detail, each sequence. Chapter 13 is once again the whole tribulation period rolled up in 42 months, Rev 13:5. Now if you can’t see this, then you need to study it out. Once you see it, you will say how simple!

      • MRH

        “The mark of the beast indicates tribulation”

        @Ron: Where does it specifically say that? No implication allowed!

        And if you don’t mind, can we please ignore Revelation and such for now, and just examine the Gospel Olivet prophecy?

        When Jesus says; ‘For then shall be great tribulation…’, it is the beginning of the final persecution of saints. Which will involve deception and slaughter. This horror effect ends with rapture; ‘For as the lightning cometh out of the east’, followed by the end.

        Also when it says; ‘Immediately after the tribulation of those days…’, that doesn’t mean horror is over, just that part of it is over (tribulation). The next verse is the greater global horror effect (wrath), which ends with glorious coming aspect.

        Luke gives a slightly different angle on second portion; ‘and upon the earth distress of nations’, which would be wrath? IOW it goes from bad to worse by the end.

        P.S. The 3 combined Olivet accounts alone dispel all popular ridiculous rapture/tribulation fables 😉

        • Ron Murphy

          Mark, don’t you know the saints are gone after tribulation, so how can the antichrist make war with them on earth. What you imply is pure silliness. Tribulation is the war with those saints and the mark is implied because those saints can’t buy what they need. That is the trial we must endure. That is part of our tribulation.

        • MRH

          Ron: Only the church is gone at rapture, there will be new converts during wrath. The rapture is the wake up call for them. The world age is not over until millennium.

          P.S. The end will involve; destruction, enslavement, and globalization 😉

          • Ron Murphy

            Mark the only convert after the rapture are the 144K. Everyone else took the mark during tribulation, and are doomed. The Gentile time is over at the rapture. Luke 21:24.

          • MRH

            Ron: You can’t prove such as none but God knows the end time score yet. But you are free to speculate unto your hearts content 😉

            P.S. If we knew the answers to all holy mystery so would Satan, as he knows everything we know, but nothing not disclosed by God 😉

        • MRH

          To understand the ‘mark’ you need to understand its agenda. The ‘mark’ is designed to enslave and control the populace through an integrated global brain network. The plan is presently being developed by the elite Illuminati faction, to create a globalized commerce system.

          The Antichrist is the satanic dictator of the NWO. Also the RFID chip is the final stage in sinister diabolical game. The first stage is depopulation in FEMA camps. Those whom refuse allegiance to the NWO will be beheaded. Followed by global nuclear effect to destroy the big cities.

          Afterwards the RFID chip will be given to the remaining FEMA populace. Wherein they will then be sent to the scattered stacked small cities as slaves. Mark my words, this is NOT fiction. Research things yourself or simply watch below playlist for greater hidden knowledge 😉

    • Ron Murphy

      In order to avoid confusion you seek God, and be patient.

  • ccn

    Revelation 22:18-19 ESV

    I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

  • Ron Murphy

    ccn, to many ignore those warnings but they were spoken for a reason. Those not 100% sure of what they are teaching are cursing themselves and ignore this warning. How foolish to play games with eternity. I have heard Perry Stone say he is 80% sure there is a pretrib rapture, (TBN Baxter vs. Stone) Then why is he teaching it. He teaches prophecy more than anything with 20% reservation, and people eat it up. Jer. 5:31

    • suez

      Ron, I seen that debate advertised, a few years ago and watched it. Although I don’t agree with everything he (Baxter) says, I did think he outshined Stone… LOL plus he held his cool, where you could tell Stone was getting irritated. Lol 🙂

      • Ron Murphy

        Agreed, Sue. Perry seemed to really enjoy his ears being scratched. You know, teaches with itching ears.

        • Lonnie

          This was one of the worst filming job EVER. I am so disappointed. I have been waiting to see this show and when the day finally is here I could only watch about 45 minutes of the show because I was seriously getting sick. Why would they film the whole show on a dang cell phone camera… My 8 year old daughter could do a better job holding the camera still… I really think the history channel blew it on this film…. I mean my wife and I were literally feeling sick after 45 minutes of cell phone style filming. This show is a major bummer…..

  • suez

    Sadly, it seems so. Years ago I watched him, seeing some things I didn’t agree with. But, when I seen him and his dad talking about the dead friends spirit telling Fred he was to be a preacher, that was the nail in the coffin, so to speak. I never watched him after that.

    • Ron Murphy

      Yes, David that’s what man says. “Listen to what the man says”. Paul McCartney. If only it was in the Bible. I say ” Listen to what the Lord says”. I must write a song.

      • Guest

        If that is the case why is the church no longer mentioned in Revelation 4

        • suez

          Really??????? Revelation was written TO THE Church! It address all of them in the first 3 or 4 chapters. From then on, it is also for the church. When you address a letter, you say dear so and so. Do you then continue to say their name through-out the rest of the letter??? I think not. Wake up The book of “Revelation IS FOR THE CHURCH, and those Jews with eyes to see!

  • RG

    This show is making me sick as the camera is all over the place.

    • suez

      Ya, me too. Twisting scripture also as I knew they would….plus using a New Age bible for scriptures! 🙁

      • Ron Murphy

        I was hoping it would be bad so people would not be deceived by it. It was far worse than I could of ever hoped for. 🙂

        • Ron Murphy

          Unfortantly, some will still believe it. I pray that for the unsaved it will trigger their curiously, and they may find a bible and start reading, and then, the Lord would draw them. You never know how the Holy Spirit will work. 🙂

    • Ron Murphy

      Anonymous, Jesus never said he would deliver you from persecution in Rev 3:10, but said he will deliver you from the temptation, that shall try the whole world and this is because you know his word. In other words, Jesus was saying if you know the truth then you also know that I’m coming back soon and you will not be tempted to take the mark because you know this and you are patient in it.

      Jesus said He is coming and the night must come first, Matthew 25:1-11. Their is not need of oil if we are taken before night fall. Many, will not have what it takes to endure the night. And they will be tempted to go buy what they need. You can not buy or sale without the mark. Paul calls it the falling away, 2Thess. 2:3, 9-11.

      Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
      Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
      Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

  • suez

    Watched part one last night. What a joke, it was so off the beam of scripture, and the timing was really a joke. I will watch part two, just for kicks and giggles, but if anyone believes this is how it’s going to happen, they better read their Bible a lot more! I didn’t know if I should be angry or laugh. I just did a lot of rolling my eyes and shaking my head. I figured it would twist the scriptures a lot, but boy, this was really twisting them.,.,.:( You must know if the secular media is going to air something to do with Christianity,and the bible, it will be deceptive and something to make fun and deceive. A child could figure that much out!!!

    • Ron Murphy

      Linda, could you give me just one place in scripture that shows a pretrib rapture? Matthew 24:29-31 says he gathers his elect just after tribulation. I believe the Bible how about you?

      • suez

        😉 Amen Ron, yet they keep beleiving mans lies…

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  • just got through watching this program.always enjoy the gloom and doom shows on history channel.but towards the end i had to ask who made this ? it reminded me a bit like fox news spreading their fear to advance their agenda .all i can say is i guess now that the myan prophecy has been discounted its time for the thumpers to step up to the plate for their turn at bat.

    • Guest

      No you don’t all have to die for us to be happy. who said that? The people who are going to suffer are the ones who reject God.

  • suez

    This movie is such a crock of crap, in so many ways. Anyone that could beleive they got any of it right, or would give” kodo’s to it, is nothing more than a false teacher. It was so far off in so many ways….

  • suez

    Oh my gosh, this movie just gets more crazy. Now they are portraying the two witnesses as Catholics! Ha, ha, ha ha ha,,, what a load. Plus being in America, and not Israel…. Geffory, you must be so proud for endorsing this bunch of garbage! 🙁

    • Have not seen it yet, but I will…and the only thing I “endorsed” was the trailer that showed a Pretrib Rapture. Will endorse that every time…

      • Suez

        Well wait till you see it. They didn’t even get the part you “endorsed” correct! LOL

    • Suez

      N Dean N Dean. Amen Brother, Amen!!!

    • Connie

      And in what fantasy reality would US troops follow orders to attack “Christian Terrorists” in the most Christian country in the world – the USA?? Obviously you don’t keep up with world news! It wasn’t long ago that Obama said we were no longer a Christian nation! And shorly after taking office “Christians” were put on Obama’s list of terrorist groups! Christians all over the world are under attack, some being slaughtered as most news outlets refuse to report on. In the US our military chaplins are under attack and even being fired for their beliefs. So YES, what is happening around the world WILL end up on our shores, and in fact it has already begun!

    • suez

      @Lucy,,,,The bible says he is coming for a church without spot or wrinkle. Well, when I look around at “church folk”, I see a LOT of spots and wrinkles. Don’t you know the amount of tribulations and horrible things,the early church had to endure? Are we any better? NO!!! We are not. Therefore the tribulation will perfect the saints, or the Church, also separating the sheep from the goats. Tares from the Wheat, etc. etc. That is why we have to endure the tribulation. It is a purification process. It will also unite us, as the true body of Christ! You can see, just by this blog, the body is very dis-united!! But, you won’t see any of these petty arguments at that time, as we will have to unite to endure, and be a encouragement to each other! I do pray this will help you see it plainer…:) And I’m NOT talking about the unity that Rick Warren and those evil false teachers are talking about. I’m talking about true Unity in Christ, the lamb of God.

    • Guest

      Lucy don’t worry about the hypocrites God will deal with them. Satan is trying to get as many people as he can to turn away from the truth. He knows his time is getting short. I have also been hurt by people from my church but you have to remember,that they are just people and are still going to sin. Friends, family significant others may let you down but God never will. Just keep holding on to him.

    • Guest

      So you don’t think Eve ate from the tree?? What do you mean took a bite of fruit as her sin?? It says in Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

    • Guest

      Spending an eternity without God is what’s scary!

  • Connie

    I thought Revelations: End of Days was AWESOME! Sure, there were a few mistakes in the interpretation of certain scriptures, but overall a GREAT movie! Hopefully it will at least open the eyes of some who fail to see what is really going on around them in the world today, and how little time is left before that Trumpet sounds!

    • Goldie

      “A few mistakes in the interpretation of the scriptures”???? LOL Try a horribe representation of scripture, and a sham of explaining the scriptures… would be a better description. 🙁 But that being said, I hope and pray it will make people question what this is all about, and pick up a Bible and start reading. 🙂 So I guess all in all, I pray what the devil and his hoards meant for evil, God, will turn for good in some way.

  • Yarah Sakal

    I have to say that this was the worst, most arrogant and inaccurate depiction of the interpretation of the book of Revelation that I have ever…ever…ever had the unfortunate opportunity to watch. Some might say well at lest they put it out there but for what?…obviously to deceive those who are ignorant. Are we so lazy that we now need to get our “prophetic understanding” from the same people who bring you these skeptic shows about God, Yahshua, Jesus Christ? The same people who bring us shows about aliens, representing them as more possible than God Himself?

    Are we so arrogant to believe that the anti-Christ will be from the U.S. or that “New Orleans” will be Babylon, or that the two witnesses will be two guys left behind, shooting and killing in the manner represented or that Christ will come as a hurricane? So off base I don’t even know where to start. But hey, isn’t that Hollywood?

  • Allen Hall

    Sorry got to laugh a little here cause I’ve never seen or even heard of the History Channel doing anything right, but it is good to see a change. But what IF…you know those scenario’s…but what IF…we were raptured out before it aired!! I’m counting on somewhere in May…but that’s my opinion, boy these people would lose their minds by Dec 29th!!! At least they have a guide book to tell them what’s going to happen next!

  • Dean

    You know, there is one scripture verse that Christ Jesus said that there is no getting around it, but as it is man will find some way to get around it,to what the Lord Christ Jesus has said,these very verses does away with any notion of any rapture, Notice in Matthew 24:29,30 “verse 29 – ” Immediately after the tribulation of those days” Verse 30 – ” And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great Glory” Therefore the words of Christ Jesus in Matthew 24:29,30 does away with any rapture that is supposedly to take place. Alot of people are taught that Christ Jesus comes first to earth, this is false, the antichrist comes first to earth and most people don’t even know who the antichrist is. The antichrist means, one who stands against the true Christ Jesus, Satan is the antichrist who stands against Christ Jesus the Lord. But again man will find away to get around this also.twisting the scriptures around to say as man will want the scripture to support the teachings of man’s.

  • Dean

    The Lord Christ Jesus has said in Matthew 24;21,22, that the days of the tribulation shall be shorten. The question is? Why would the Lord Christ Jesus need to shorten the days of the tribulation, If people has already been raptured out before the tribulation? There are those that say the tribulation will last seven years and those that say 3 and half years, but the Lord has said in Revelation 9:5 shorten to 5 months. But then people will find away to take away from the words of Christ Jesus the Lord and add their words in the place of Christ Jesus the Lord.

  • Tanya Herbert

    I 100% believe in the Pre-Tribulation….you may not believe in it and I’m okay with that. What matters is Satan’s imminent destruction and the thousand-year rule of our Lord, Jesus Christ, which is something awesome to look forward to. I thank God for saving me for a time such as this. I am also grateful to be a child of God and I am especially grateful for God’s grace and mercy over my life. No matter what we believe in, let us not be disrespectful to one another…if someone’s views do not match your own, so be it. Search your own heart and let the Holy Spirit guide you through the Word of God. God Bless!

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