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“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4
The Great Falling Away
The scriptures say that in the end times, in the last days, there will be a great ‘falling away’ of believers from bedrock bible doctrine. The above quote from 2 Thessalonians clearly shows that as does this quote from Paul to Timothy:
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3,4
In the end, it is the Christians who no longer have a desire or hunger to be fed from the word of God, but instead choose to side with the devil and make a mockery of the church that Jesus Christ shed His own blood for. Nothing shows that as clearly as our story on the Harlem Shake in the Church of God.
The Harlem Shake is demonic
The dance starts with the leader wearing a mask shaking in front of the people, and then they all join in for 30 seconds.
The words to the song are: “Con los terrorista” (With The Terrorists).
There are several groups and organizations doing the “Harlem Shake:”
- Saddleback High School Ministry
- Liberty University
- Destiny World Outreach Center
- Vineyards Student Harlem Shake
- City Church Downtown
- Celebration Church Jacksonville FL
Run away, run far away
I know this article will burn up some of our fan base, but let me be very honest with you. Now The End Begins was created by direct commission from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself to be a watchman in these last days. We are to sound the alarm when the Enemy appears on the radar screen. So let us get right to the point:
If you belong to or attend a Christian church that encourages demon-inspired ‘dancing’ to the Harlem Shake, you are in church with the Devil Himself. The Holy God of Israel is a million miles away from all of that foolishness. The ‘shake’ is performed with a masked man inciting a crowd to gyrate their bodies by unseen forces to jungle-themed music. Bright lights flash, artificial smoke is set off and an hypnotic, ever-lowering bass beat causes the dancers to bang their heads. Are you so seared in your spirit by the filth you have surrounded yourself with that you can no longer recognize the Devil when he is laughing in your face??
If you think that this is the work of the Holy Spirit, then you do not know the Holy Spirit, neither are you led by Him. To see this in the Church of God is, to me, proof positive that the great falling away is operating on all eight cylinders. The Harlem Shake comes from drug-using, heavy-drinking, fornication-glorifying rappers whose garbage has NO PLACE in the Church of Jesus Christ.
If you do this in your church, you need to REPENT immediately and beg God for desecrating His House of worship. Return to your first Love, and remember what it was like when the shed blood of Jesus made you clean and new. Get back to a DOCTRINAL study of God’s word from the King James Bible, and get back on your knees in fervent prayer.
If this is happening in your church, leave
Satan desires to sift you and grind your papier-mache faith into a fine, dusty powder. Christian, you are UNDER ATTACK, and are losing the battle. Do you really want to be found gyrating to the Harlem Shake when Jesus Christ returns? Really?
Are you so deluded by the world, the flesh and the Devil that you think the Harlem Shake and David dancing before the Lord are the same thing?
Think about it.
Can one be a Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim believer of Jesus? And can they do this without persecution?
“Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,” 2 Corinthians 6:17
A growing number of Christians and church leaders are stopping to consider that this idea may actually be possible, thanks to “Insider Movement” groups that have been pushing this idea forward for the past decade, especially in the Muslim mission field. Now those ideas are gaining ground in the West, as Christians embrace these controversial methods.
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The most recent issue of Christianity Today is giving a whole lot of print space to Insider Movement (IM) proponents, who believe that it is not necessary for believers to convert to Christianity, a term often associated with baggage and most certainly persecution if outed as “Christian.”
This should immediately send you running for your Bible and asking some key questions about what Scripture has to say about the blending of two very different and opposing faiths vs a full conversion to Christianity.
The January issue of CT contains the headlines, Why Evangelicals Should Be Thankful for Muslim Insiders, arguing that “Insider followers of Jesus may not have changed religions, but their lives have been changed by Christ,” and the provocative headline Worshiping Jesus in the Mosque in which a reporter interviews a “Muslim follower of Isa.”
But instead of comparing what IM-ers teach to what the Bible says and asking questions, Christians are saying, “cool!”
“Where is the outcry of pastors in America because of this? Nobody is challenging these methods, and it boggles my mind that churches subscribe to this,” says Elijah Abraham, a born-again Christian who was raised a Muslim believer in Iraq, and today is the founder and executive director of Living Oasis Ministries, reaching Muslims with the Gospel.
Abraham is part of Biblical Missiology, the think-tank group that recently petitioned Wycliffe and its partners for removing familial terms like Son and Father to describe God and Jesus from Arabic Bible translations used to reach Muslim communities.
Abraham points out that John Travis (the writer of Why Evangelicals Should Be Thankful for Muslim Insiders), is one of godfathers of the Insider Movement. Abraham encourages readers to examine the IM leaders through the lens of a video highly recommends titled, Half Devil Half Child, in which even the Muslim Imams say these teachings are not Christianity:
The Insider Movement Heresy Explained
We know that Christians in Islamic nations are being brutally slaughtered simply because their identity is in Christ. Persecution is on the rise, and that’s risky for Muslims who embrace Christ yet want to stay within their Islamic community. Yet the core doctrines of belief, repentance, and preaching Jesus Christ and HIM crucified (not the Muslim “Isa”) for the forgiveness of sins is not the focus of IM methodology.
CT conducted an interview with one insider named “Abu Jaz,” a key leader in a movement that describes itself as the People of the Gospel. CT reports that this group represents several thousand Muslims in eastern Africa who have converted to faith in Christ during the past decade, but who have remained in their Muslim communities.
Abu Jaz describes his conversion after dining with a guest in his home, and their sparse meal of macaroni began to multiply in the bowl.
Afterward I lay down on the bed, and as I slept, Isa came to me and asked me, “Do you know who multiplied the macaroni?” I said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I am Isa al Masih. If you follow me, not only the macaroni but your life will be multiplied.”
He didn’t tell me that he was God; he didn’t tell me that he died on behalf of me; he didn’t say, “I am the Son of God.” He didn’t talk to me about any complicated theological issues. He only told me that if I followed him, he would multiply my life. Isa al Masih came to my home with the kingdom of God. He didn’t completely explain theological issues, he only said, “If you will follow.”
Abraham, who has interviewed hundreds of converts in many nations, doesn’t doubt Abu’s story of dreams and visions. In fact, he says true converts do have dreams and visions, and they’ve paid a heavy price. But the Jesus they encounter is never confusing or vague about who He is. And the fact that Abu maintains a Muslim rather than an African identity troubles him. “You would think after Bible school, Abu would reject Islam,” Abraham says. “Abu never contradicts the Qur’anic version of Isa, and the interviewer didn’t even challenge the convert to ask if the Allah he was talking about was the triune God of the Bible or Allah of the Qur’an.”
He points out that the title, Worshiping Jesus in the Mosque is very misleading, since the reporter does not mention anyone actually worshiping Christ in a mosque. “The Christianity Today title is only intended to persuade the readership that it is possible to worship Jesus in the mosque. Three problems: Any mosque will be offended if Jesus is worshiped inside its walls. Second, any Christian from a Muslim Background will tell you that the mosque is not the place to go to worship Jesus. Finally, if you go to a mosque, you have already denied Him.”
But, a church isn’t a building, it is people. Abraham contends that the so-called Muslim-culture church is an oxymoron.
“Muslim-culture church? What in the world does that mean? If their identity is Islam,and not Christianity, are they really set apart?
Abraham says insiders who say they are converts are the most confused individuals he has ever found. “They are confused in their theology and identity, and they’re still loyal to Mohammad, so you’ve got problems there.”
As for Christian churches embracing these methods, he says there are many missionaries and leaders who will try to cover up their IM connections from their congregants so as to diffuse critics. He says church members who do question the Insider Movement methods in their churches are often met with a guilt trip for criticizing them for not actually traveling overseas and meeting Muslims.
“To that I would say, ‘you know, you are right. But I read your article and compared your methods to Scripture, and it does line up.” source – Stand Up For The Truth
The Emergent Church Movement is the start of the One World Religion
“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.” Revelation 3:14-18
The bible has warned that, in the Last Days, the professing Christian church would be cold and dead with Jesus Himself being thrust outside and knocking on the door to get back in.
We have gotten close enough to the end to see the beginning of the fulfillment of that prophecy.
The biggest churches in America are the mega-churches which have millions and millions of members. This is commonly known as the Emergent Church Movement.
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The Christian church has never been so big, never seen such numbers, and have such little results in terms of seeing the lost get saved and the prodigals returned.
This video will help to clear up these questions, and show you how the Emergent Church is actually the start of the One Word Religion that the bible said would be part of the great deception that would come upon those who rejected the truth of the Gospel. The main Emergent Church leaders are Rick Warren, Rob Bell, Peter Drucker, Bob Buford, and others. The entire movement is one built on and dedicated to the selling of a false gospel in order to create a financial empire. They have been wildly successful in this regard.
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If you are involved in one of these mega-churches, then please prayerfully consider this your warning to come out from that ungodly mess, and return to true fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short, Jesus will return any moment now for His church in the Rapture as He promised.
Where will YOU be in that Day?
source for the video courtesy of Perfect Peace Plan
A false prophet field day
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“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.” 2 Peter 2:1,2
When an Orange County Register article about Rev. Rick Warren of Saddleback Church’s mission to heal differences between evangelical Christians and Muslims was published, many of America’s Christians saw it as more evidence of Warren’s blurry vision of “Chrislam,” a blending of Christianity and Islam, despite his repeated denials.
The Feb. 23 article identified Saddleback documents that spell out the similarities between Christianity and Islam, saying that one document co-authored by Jihad Turk of the Christian-Muslim Consultative Group in Los Angeles and Abraham Meulenberg, pastor of Interfaith Outreach at Saddleback, claims the two religions “worship the same God.”
While many supporters of Warren insist that claims in the article are false, both the Register reporter and an editor at the Register told WND that Saddleback Church leadership confirmed that the article was “factually accurate.”
“Folks at Saddleback initially made but then withdrew a request for a clarification to the story’s first paragraph,” Jim Hinch told WND in an email. “Instead of the words ‘Muslims and Christians worship the same God’ they wanted the story to read ‘Muslims and Christians believe that God is one.’ The rest of the story, they said, is factually accurate.”
Calls and emails to Rick Warren were not returned.
Despite his staff’s acknowledgement to the Register that the article is factually accurate, Warren denied claims in the article by pointing the finger at the reporter for “getting it wrong.”
“This is an example of why I always doubt what I read in newspapers and blogs about ministries,” Warren said in a statement sent to church members. “Secular reporters trying to cover churches and theological issues often get it wrong,” he said.
“But then Christian bloggers, instead of contacting the ministry, blindly believe, quote and repost the errors made by secular reporters. Then those errors become permanent, searchable, and global on the Internet,” he continued.
“I couldn’t count the number of times a secular reporter has gotten a story about Saddleback wrong but then it is perpetuated by Christians who never fact-check. And the three factors I mentioned about the Internet make it impossible to correct all the misperceptions, and outright lies that get repeated over and over.”
Hinch, who has worked as a senior editor at Guideposts as well as a religion reporter at the Register, tells WND that numerous pastors at Saddleback were contacted about his article, and each one of them told him Warren would not be made available for comment for this particular story.
One pastor even emailed Hinch to say, “leadership decided they don’t want the work of King’s Way to be published.” “King’s Way” is a document that was a central focus of the Register story. The document was unveiled at Saddleback Church in December to an interfaith audience of more than 300 Muslims and Christians, and reportedly was co-authored by Meulenberg and Turk.
At the dinner, the five-page document was introduced through a slide presentation and outlined similarities between the two religions. Under the heading “A Path to End the 1,400 Years of Misunderstanding Between Muslims and Christians,” the presentation included Bible verses and Quran verses side by side, identifying how the God for both religions are one in the same.
One example included a reference to “Who we believe in” followed by, “God is the Creator – Genesis 1:1, Al Shura 42:11″
Those two passages:
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” – Genesis 1:1
“The originator of the heavens and the earth…” – Al Shura 42:11
Another example identified “God is One,” followed by “Mark 12:29, Muhammed 47:19″
“And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear O’ Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” – Mark 12:29
“So know that there is no Diety except Allah” – Muhammed 47:19
Hinch tells WND that he obtained a copy of the “King’s Way” document from a confidential source on the condition that it not be published in its entirety. He said, “The document, which was given to me by a source for this story on condition it not be published in its entirety, outlines several areas of theological agreement between Christians and Muslims and commits members of both faiths to three goals: becoming friends; making peace; and sharing ‘the blessings of God’ with others.”
“The Register story based the phrases ‘same God’ and ‘one God’ on the phrasing in this document, which states that Christians and Muslims believe in one God,” he said. WND’s repeated requests to Saddleback for a copy of the document went unanswered. After the Register article was published, Warren issued a statement via a Christian Post reporter in an interview format.
Warren said, “A few days ago, an article appeared in the Orange County Register that included some outrageous statements about Saddleback that were incorrect. “Of course, the media rarely gets everything right, and there’s no way we could respond to every false statement made about us. But I felt this article created so many misperceptions that I agreed to do an interview in response…”
The interviewer also asked Warren if people of other religions worship the same God as Christians, to which Warren replies, “Of course not. Christians have a God that is unique.” Steve McConkey, of bigworldwatch.com, a news gathering site, says of Warren’s response to the article, “A person should not say one thing one time and another thing later and then blame the reporter.
“The problem that we have is that he has a case of doublespeak. Warren denies the Orange County Register article’s contents, but the document he signed ‘A Common Word Between Us and You’ says differently,” says McConkey.
McConkey is referring to a much publicized 2007 document, which according to the Yale Center for Faith and Culture, was signed by Warren, among many others considered to be Christian leaders, that within the first few lines says:
“…many Christians have been guilty of sinning against our Muslim neighbors. Before we ‘shake your hand’ in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One and of the Muslim community around the world.”
The lengthy document then outlines how both Muslims and Christians serve “one God,” and makes an argument that the two are one in the same, much like the “King’s Way” document unveiled in December at Saddleback Church.
It is that perspective that other Christians have called “Chrislam.” Saddleback and Warren declined numerous WND attempts to speak about the issue. But in the Christian Post, he responded.
There he’s asked, “Are you promoting Chrislam?” “Of course not. It’s the lie that won’t die,” he said.
Yet his staff has acknowledged the Register article is correct, he had a role in the “King’s Way” document, he signed “Common Word,” and he even traveled to Syria earlier.
The Register story mentions that both Turk and Dr. Gwynn Guibord serve an organization called Christian-Muslim Consultative Group.
WND reached Dr. Guibord regarding her interview with Jim Hinch. In his interview she states that her group has avoided inviting evangelical churches to join their endeavor to “foster relationships between churches and mosques” but is now changing that opinion because “Saddleback’s effort is unprecedented.” source – WND
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Rick Warren and Chrislam 2.0
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From WND: (OCREGISTER) — The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people. (The game pitted pastors and imams against teens from both faiths. The teens won.)
The effort by a prominent Christian leader to bridge what polls show is a deep rift between Muslims and evangelical Christians culminated in December at a dinner at Saddleback attended by 300 Muslims and members of Saddleback’s congregation. source – WND
From Stand Up For The Truth: This past Sunday, a major shift was announced by Pastor Rick Warren at his Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, that has many Christian leaders concerned. As Saddleback hosted its ”celebration of Jesus (pbuh),” attended by a number of Muslim communities in Southern California, something theologically significant happened at the dinner portion of the event.
Only a select number of people were invited to the dinner. A document one year in the making was presented which encourages Christians and Muslims to “appreciate the similarities of our faiths.” What does this mean? Is it simply a way to reach out a helping hand to the communities in Southern California, or is something more serious happening? source – Stand Up For The Truth
From Time: WASHINGTON — Defying some of his fellow conservative Christian critics, one of the most prominent religious leaders in the country told several thousand American Muslims on Saturday that “the two largest faiths on the planet” must work together to combat stereotypes and solve global problems. source – MSNBC
From Jim Hinch: Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, home to super-pastor Rick Warren (Obama inauguration, Purpose Driven Life, etc.) has joined forces with Southern California mosques to adopt a three-step plan for ending enmity between evangelical Christians and Muslims.
The plan’s first step calls for Muslims and Christians to recognize they worship the same God. Interfaith reconciliation has been proceeding for years between Muslims and more liberal-leaning mainline Protestant denominations.
This is the first such effort I’ve heard of by an evangelical mega-church. Many evangelicals regard Islam as Christianity’s number one enemy, and they do not at all agree that the two faiths worship the same God. This is likely to make waves. source – Jim Hinch
Followup to the Faith Shared Chrislam event from June 26
“Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first…” Thessalonians 2:3
We promised you that as soon as information became available, we would update you on the latest Chrislam event that took place on June 26th. If you recall, that was an event organized by a group called Faith Shared, and it got over a 100 churches from many major denominations all across America to participate in it. This was part of the program:
“Faith Shared asks houses of worship across the country to organize events involving clergy reading from each other’s sacred texts. An example would be a Christian Minister, Jewish Rabbi and Muslim Imam participating in a worship service or other event.
Suggested readings will be provided from the Torah, the Gospels, and the Qur’an, but communities are encouraged to choose readings that will resonate with their congregations. Involvement of members from the Muslim community is key.”
But now word comes that the National Cathedral in Washington, DC, also took part in this Chrislam event:
“In the center aisle, in place of the baptismal fountain, candle-lit stands bore three books: a Bible, a Torah and a Koran. When a visitor asked a nearby usher what to do, the usher replied: “This is a totally different service than what we usually do. There’s no wrong answer. Around 70 communities participated, including the National Cathedral in D.C. Isaac Arnsdorf of the Washington Post was there:
“What we have done together in this great cathedral this morning, along with others in similar services in houses of worship across our nation, can alter the image and substance of our nation, as well as our religion,” said the Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance, one of the organizations that sponsored the project. “Today’s beautifully written liturgy, informed by Islam, Judaism and Christianity, declares unambiguously . . . we are not scripture burners, rather, scripture readers.”
A local rabbi and imam joined Gaddy and the cathedral’s Episcopal clergy on the dais to share their messages of mutual understanding and respect. source – Washington Post
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Rick Warren admits membership in good standing in Council on Foreign Relations – CFR
WASHINGTON – Rick Warren, the superstar mega-church pastor and bestselling author of ”The Purpose Driven Life,” had a Damascus Road experience last week – and like Saul of Tarsus, one of the after-effects appears to be blindness.
Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.
Despite the temporary loss of vision that prevented him from seeing any evil in the totalitarian police state, Warren’s hearing was apparently not affected – for his ears were tickled by what he heard and apparently accepted lock, stock and barrel from the second-generation dictator, Bashar Assad, and his state-approved mufti.
But that’s not the story Warren is telling – at least not in the official press releases he is sending out from Rwanda in response to my confrontations with him last week in which I accused him of betraying his own country in a hostile foreign land and of being a propaganda tool of the Islamo-fascist regime in Damascus.
In fact, after I called him out last week in my column, Warren e-mailed me claiming to have been misquoted by the official Syrian news agency.
”Joseph, why didn’t you contact me first and discover the fact that I said nothing of the sort?” he pleaded. ”The trip was a favor to my next door neighbor, had nothing to do with policy, and was done with the State Department’s knowledge – who told us to expect exactly what Syria did – a PR blast. I don’t pretend to be a diplomat. I’m a pastor who just gets invited places.”
I pointed out to Warren that WND had indeed attempted to contact him about his trip. No one from his Saddleback Church ever returned our calls the day the story broke.
”I’m sure since you were warned in advance by the State Department that you took the precaution of recording your own words,” I suggested in my response. ”We look forward to seeing the transcripts or hearing the recordings.”
I also asked if he could respond specifically to the words put in his mouth by the Syrian news agency. And lastly I suggested that he should have ”counseled with me, or other people knowledgeable about the Middle East before doing so much damage with your reckless trip.”
I really didn’t expect to hear back from Warren – but, a few minutes later, I did, with an absolutely stunning retort.
He let me know he is a close friend of President Bush ”and many, if not most, of the generals at the Pentagon.” He also told me he did not tape anything while in Syria, ”because it was a courtesy call, like I do in every country.” Warren explained that he had also counseled with the National Security Council and the White House, as well as the State Department, before his little courtesy call for a neighbor.
”In fact,” Warren added, ”as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.”
He continued: ”I hope you’ll not choose to believe Syrian propaganda even though, as you pointed out at the start of your article, you’ve been wanting to criticize me for some time. In spite of your rush to judgment, I think you write great, insightful columns. You are almost batting 1,000.”
No sooner had I received this surprising response from Warren, I also got an e-mail providing a link to a YouTube video of Rick Warren in Syria explaining how great the Assad regime treats Christians and Jews and how Damascus ”does not permit extremism of any kind.”
Not one to let lies go unchallenged, I wrote back to Warren with a link to the YouTube video: ”If you didn’t tape anything, what’s this? Do you really believe Syria does not allow extremism of any kind? There are more terrorist organizations based in Syria than anywhere else in the world!”
It might be that Rick Warren, deep in the bush of Rwanda, never received those last questions, because he never responded – at least not in the last three days.
He did, however, within minutes make sure the YouTube video he recorded independent of his meetings with the Syrian brown shirts was removed from the network. Vanished. Kaput. Sterilized. Cleansed. Stay tuned for more on Rick Warren’s ”Agenda-Driven Life” in the coming days – sponsored, of course, by the Council on Foreign Relations. source – Joseph Farah/WND
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