THE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND

Are We About To Witness The Rise Of Petrus Romanus?

| February 11, 2013

“And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” Revelation 16:13,14

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2

Is this man ‘Petrus Romanus’?

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First published in 1595, the prophecies were attributed to St. Malachy by a Benedictine historian named Arnold de Wyon, who recorded them in his book “Lignum Vitæ.” Tradition holds that Malachy had been called to Rome by Pope Innocent II. While there, he experienced the vision of the future popes, including the last one, which he wrote down in a series of cryptic phrases.

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Cardinal Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson, President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, Archbishop emeritus of Cape Coast (Ghana), was born on 11 October 1948 in Wassaw Nsuta, Ghana.

According to the prophecy, the next pope is to be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman. Some Catholics believe that the next pope on St. Malachy’s list heralds the beginning of “great apostasy” followed by “great tribulation,” setting the stage for the imminent unfolding of apocalyptic events, something many non-Catholics would agree with.

This would give rise to a false prophet, who according to the book of Revelation leads the world’s religious communities into embracing a political leader known as Antichrist. In recent history, several Catholic priests – some deceased now – have been surprisingly outspoken about what they have seen as this inevitable danger rising from within the ranks of Catholicism as a result of secret satanic “Illuminati-Masonic” influences.

“In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven- hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End.” – Malachy’s Prophecy Of The Last Pope

These priests claim secret knowledge of a multinational power elite and occult hierarchy operating behind supranatural and global political machinations. Within this secret society are sinister false Catholic infiltrators who understand that as the Roman Catholic Church represents one-sixth of the world’s population and over half of all Christians, it is indispensable for controlling future global elements in matters of church and state. The dark forces seek to fulfill a diabolical plan they call “Alta Vendetta,” which is set to assume control of the papacy and to help the False Prophet deceive the world’s faithful (including Catholics) into worshipping Antichrist. As stated by Michael Lake on the front cover, Catholic and evangelical scholars have dreaded this moment for centuries.

Unfortunately, as readers are told, the time to avoid Peter the Roman just ran out. source – WND

(Editor’s Note: We present this to you for your consideration, as it is a widely-discussed story. However, please note that as bible believers, we put our faith only in the prophecies mentioned in God’s word – the Holy Bible – from Genesis to Revelation, and not in the word of man outside of the bible, as was Malachy and the “prophecy” of Petrus Romanus.)

 

About the Author:

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he hosts a twice-weekly bible study and prophecy radio show on BlogTalk Radio, and oversees a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
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  1. Lyn Leahz says:

    A couple of great vids about this by Gary Stearman and Hal Lindsey. Very informative!
    http://vineoflife.net/2013/02/11/prophecy-of-the-final-pope-gary-stearman-with-author-tom-horn/

  2. Lyn Leahz says:

    They discuss that passage in depth in the videos…and more.

  3. Didn’t Hal Lindsey predict the return of Christ in 1988. Hmm.

      • Actually he did Frank I have read his book. Not only did he say Christ would return in 1988 but he also predicted the last seven years to be between 1981-1988.

        Just stating the facts. I wouldn’t put to much stock in anyone who sells 100 million copies of anything and makes at least $10 a copy which is a billion dollars on one book then goes on to write more after making false predictions.

        Just the facts. We are not to be deceived. Some people may not like it but the information is out there to read.

        I put my trust in the bible. Gods word.

        • Well, I see you’re still stirring the pot, NY. I think those predictions by Hal Lindsey were never preceded by, “thus sayeth the Lord,” or “the Lord told me,” but were couched with, “BECAUSE Israel was reborn in 1948 (a FACT), and IF a Biblical generation is 40-years (a CONJECTURE), then Jesus 2nd coming COULD be in 1988 and that COULD put the time of the Rapture of the Church 7-years before in 1981 (also a CONJECTURE).”

          Lighten up NY or you MIGHT be too heavy for that “Sweet Chariot” to pick you up in the Rapture! ;)

          • Like I said I am just looking out for people. Many people will refuse the truth because it is inconvenient or not what they want to hear.

            But the information is out there if your not set in your ways. Do not be deceived. Not a good idea to be set in your ways. The Jews were set in their ways when Jesus came and they crucified him for it. But again with prayer you to may see the light.

          • Face it, NY, you LIED about what a Brother in Christ, Hal Lindsey, said! Quoting you with emphasis:
            “Not only did he say Christ WOULD (a LIE) return in 1988 but he also PREDICTED (another LIE) the last seven years to be between 1981-1988.”

            And THEN, you impugn Hal Lindsey’s motives with this vicious accusation:
            “Just stating the facts. I wouldn’t put to(sic) much stock in anyone who sells 100 million copies of anything and makes at least $10 a copy which is a billion dollars on one book then goes on to write more after making false predictions.”

            Literally MILLIONS of saved people will be eternally grateful to Hal Lindsey for writing his books…including ME, because I was born-again back in 1972 after reading his first book, ‘The Late Great Planet Earth!’ Have YOU made that kind of impact for the Lord’s salvation message?

            As outlined in my first reply to your screed about Hal Lindsey: NEVER did he EVER say he was a prophet or speaking prophetically! Just like the rest of us, he was PERSONALLY exercising his freedom in Christ to give his exegesis of Scriptural prophecy.

            Are you SURE you are a Christian, NY, because arrogance and spite fairly oozes from your posts… :(
            Over and OUT!

      • Lyn Leahz says:

        You are right Frank. I have ALL of Hal Lindsey’s books ,including The Late Great Planet Earth, Planet Earth 2000 A.D., etc. Hal Lindsey has never ever set a date. I’ve read all of his books multiple times. This person does not know what they are talking about. They either misunderstood something, or maybe he quoted someone who was setting dates, or they’re thinking of someone else. I have been following Hal Lindsey since I was a little girl. I have never heard anything about him setting dates. But, there was some guy who started some world church out in California who did set the date of 1988. I think they are confusing Hal with him. Hal Lindsey has a credible reputation. He has never done such a thing.

    • Been following Hal Lindsay since 1972? got rich off prophecy

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      No. You’re thinking of someone else. Hal Lindsey has never set dates. I can’t remember the guy’s name..but I know who you are talking about..and it is NOT Hal Lindsey. It is the guy who started that big world church..again, I can’t remember his name. But trust me when I say it was NOT Hal Lindsey. Hal Lindsey is a credible prophecy scholar, not a date setter.

      • SAMe says:

        You are thinking of Herbert W. Armstrong. The guy who use to put out the Plain Truth Magazine. Hal Lindsey never set a date but he did come close to doing so,in the book Countdown to Armageddon. Bless his heart that he didn’t.

      • Michael says:

        You are right, it was a man that started a big Church of Christ in Indiana, Forget his name or the church name. He gave out the meaning of each number in the 1988 date saying because of what the numbers did stand for that Christ would return then. Lindsay wrote that Christ “could” return then based on a forty year generation. However a generation can be 40, 80 or 120 years by Bible standards, it depends on which generation is used.

  4. Rachel says:

    I only believe Bible prophecy…it ALWAYS COMES TO PASS.

  5. Frank Hanson says:

    Thank you NTEB!!! for your editors footnote. It shows that you have a good heavenly perspective, that comes from God the Holy Spirit. Thank You Again and thank you for being God light in the darkness of this world. I feel the Holy Trinity saying well done good and faithful servant. God Bless, Frank P.S. I am so excited and blessed that the Lord has allowed me to live in this time. Come Lord Come!!!

  6. Frank Hanson says:

    Sorry I said God light NTEB, instead of God’s Light.

  7. No one likes people who bring messages they do not want to hear. But again just the truth. No one gets deceived on my watch. Here to help if it means I need to be the bearer of bad news or news you don’t want to here I will at least shed some light on the subject.

    usc4life2 is right, our info is in the bible.

    • Frank Hanson says:

      Who is being deceived New York? Are you talking about the King James bible or what? And Hal Lindsey is not like all these false prophets, i believe he is truly a man of God. If he did state that or suggest that in a book written in 1969, i am sure he has repented of his sin, like we ALL do when we get something wrong. I am well aware and have been telling people about all these false preachers and scam artist for many years now. I think you need to be very careful when or if you declare some one a false teacher. Remember that God has the final say in who will and will not come to Him…Romans 9. When you say something like no one gets deceived on my watch, it comes across a little boastful, just saying be careful about what you think you know. Many will be saved by God’s Grace at the last minute, by the skin of their teeth and who are we to say someone will or will not be enlivened by the Holy Spirit the last second of their life. Being humble and still telling the STRONG truth of Gods word, is a blessed gift and should be used with the perspective that we are not God. So please be very sure when you make dogmatic statements about things that are of God providence alone. I also believe that the King James version is our sole authority. It did matter who was sitting around the table when the 66 books were decided upon. God moved the hearts and minds of those who choose what books would be put in the King James Bible and all though some of the men sitting at that table night have believed it was their wisdom and knowledge that chose the 66 books, it wasn’t it was Gods providence alone, that moved upon their souls. I just ask in all kindness to be very careful about dogmatic assersions. Blessings, Frank

      • Frank Hanson says:

        It did not matter is what I meant to say, about who was sitting at the table in 1500 and ? Sorry don’t remember the exact date at this moment. My spelling gets ahead of my typing sometimes or vs a verse a. LOL

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      I don’t mind truth..but when someone has their facts all messed up, they need corrected. It is ungodly to spread false rumors that are not true about someone else. That is in the Bible… it is wrong to damage someone else’s credibility with such rumors. You need to research that, or write Hal Lindsey personally and ask him about this. I write back and forth with him from time to time..he will answer you back. The Bible commands us to take up a problem with another believer. Instead of spreading potentially damaging rumors..which is a sin…you should be writing him. And when he writes you back, I would love if you would share his reply. In fact, I think I’m going to go write him myself. In the meantime, share no rumors or misunderstandings until you get your facts straight.

      • My facts are highly accurate. As I have read the books and done the investigation and matched up to Gods word. Again do not take it personally I have just stated facts. You can search these facts yourself our you can argue and cry and scream I am a lunatic that just plain doesn’t agree with what you posted. But again I did not post to attack anyone I just merely put the truthful information out there of which there is evidence for. Up to you to see it as good or bad and you can only do that by seeing the evidence yourself and finding out for yourself. Otherwise your doing what most people do. Believe anything without actually finding out for themselves what is true. Attack away!! God Bless!

      • Frank Hanson says:

        He made money? You Made money to!!! God gave Hal a heavenly perspective and you must be envious of that? You are transgressing into Gods area. May the Great “I AM” forgive you for self- boasting and i believe envy. Everyone on this planet saved and unsaved, gets what they get from God. Your job, the roof over your head, the food you eat and on and on. When someone is enlivened and the blessed Holy Spirit starts remove the old nature, old man, old self ( A life long thing..Your sin) this is called edification and santifacation. You are still going to sin for all your mortal life. We are brought to the feet of our God through sin ( Does this give you permission to sin…God Forbid, you would ever thing that) Please read the Psalms and get a good perspective on your sin nature. I very sorry that you did not take the time to read what i wrote. I have found over the years from listening to people and through my own flaws that, when someone cant see there own flaws and refuse correction that something is not right in their union with God. Pride goes before the fall. Please if your not going to read what I have said to you at least go back and read your own words in prayer and supplication. May God’s Grace give you a spirit that allow you to be humble and see who you are and who God is. I am a worm, who has been given Free Unmerited Faith by God’s Grace and Mercy and what I know is this…..God is Enough!!! Blessings, Frank…. I Hope this Helps you New York, truly I do.

        • Jody says:

          Frank, you’ve said it all, as it needs to be said to NY. I have felt the need to say it to him myself before, being moved by the Spirit to admonish him about his haughty spirit and his pride being damaging to young Christians seeking answers. He hasn’t listened. Thank you. Your words are kind, loving, and correct. God bless you.

          • I am so sorry Jody. I missed your comment, it was very kind and uplifting to read a comment from a true ETERNAL Sister in Christ, that I will know for all eternity…..Yes isn’t it so cool knowing that our true brothers and sisters, the one’s that we will be with, not just 60, 70, 80 earthly years BUT all eternity, OUR TRUE FAMILY!!! I am so excited, that God has chosen us to live in this most glorious of times. Again i am so sorry for missing your comment the first time. As I sit here the Holy Spirit has put upon my heart that I found your comment exactly at the prefect time, for it has made my day. God Bless You Jody, my eternal brethren and see you in the clouds shortly. Frank

        • Andrew says:

          well said God’s Blessings to you all

      • Frank Hanson says:

        Very very Good Lyn!!! Blessings to you and yours, Frank

  8. NTEB News Desk says:

    Yes, this is not BIBLE prophecy per se, but it is prophecy news and since it is a widely-discussed story we should also discuss it here as well….but in the end, we believe the King James Bible and take that as our sole authority.

    • Anthony says:

      The NAS is a better translation, just sayin’.

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      I read the Hebrew Greek Jewish Study Bible translated straight to English. It is actually the best because it’s straight from the Jewish documentation. King James does have some mistranslations. I’m not telling you this to get into a debate with you about, I’m telling you FYI in case you were interested in checking it out. The Jewish Study Bible…I have all versions.. I disagree with NIV and most other translations..the more you translate, the further away from the original you get. However, between KJV, NKJV and the Jewish Study Bible, I must say (I’ve read them all, from beg to end)…the Jewish Study Bible was most accurate. Even uses the original names of books and has them in original order. Jonah, for example is Yonah. Check it out! God bless.

      • Diane says:

        Hi Lyn,
        Concerning the Jewish Study Bible, I warmly recommend you to watch this study
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Obvv12jjw

        It discusses the origin and the stakes of what seems to be a rediscovery of the “authentic” Word of God. I’m sure you know, for instance, that the original New Testament was written in Greek -so that talking of the “original” Hebrew version of the NT is a scam. I hope you’ll have the time to check this study (by a pastor), it is quite edifying.
        Blessings in Jesus.

        • The MAD Jewess says:

          Why dont Christians worry about the Christian church? Leave Messianics, J4J’s alone.
          If someone is not led to the HRM, so?
          Politely say, no thank you.

          Jesus name in ENGLISH is “Jesus”, in Hebrew, it is Yeshua.
          So? People want to say “Yeshua”

          WHAT IS THAT TO YOU?

      • michael says:

        Dear Lady, please be very mindful of the HGJS Bible. I went to school to learn how to read and write Hebrew so I could read the Old Test in the original language. I also read the Pashetta Bible twice and have gotten differant input from all of the publications. Trust me, if you are not firmly rooted in your beliefs you can be taken down the yellow brick road. I have also read and studied the I Chang which is the fondation of all the eastern religions. Please be mindful.

  9. No he is not the false prophet he will be a kharzar and yes he is approaching now fast with the anti Christ who he will help

  10. Michael says:

    The last book of the bible isn’t the revelation of Satan, it’s the revelation of Jesus Christ. Don’t get fooled into calling good, evil.

  11. Michael says:

    How long are you going to attempt to stone the harlot?

    1 Corinthians 13:5 (Contemporary English Version) Paul is describing the God you claim to worship when he drops this nuclear bomb on us: God is love and, “Love …keeps no record of wrongs that others do.”

    If you are keeping a record of the wrongs of anyone including the Papacy, then math tells us you do not represent love therefore you don’t represent God. Math tells us you represent who then? “If possible, even the very elect would be deceived.”

    • J Kitty says:

      When any leader has followers who they are deceiving, light needs to be shed on them to show how they are deceiving, and who they are deceiving. Is it not the job of a Christian to do this?
      Also, Now The End Begins brings us news that relates to prophecy and the Bible. It is not their fault that someone does not follow the Bible.
      Oh, and you misquoted the verse:
      1 Corinthians 13:5
      King James Version (KJV)
      5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
      Where does it say “keeps no record of wrongs that others do.”? And, please show me NTEB’s tally sheet of records they keep. I’d really like to see it.

  12. NTEB News Desk says:

    Please only use the KJV when posting scripture, thanks!

    • Frank Hanson says:

      Agree!!! Thank You NTEB. God Bless, Frank

    • Anthony says:

      Why not the NAS, that’s pretty dogmatic of you.

      • Michael says:

        What better translation of god do we need than “love keeps no record of wrongs that others do” ?
        (1 Cor. 13:5 (CEV)

        This 100% contradicts the modern prophet’s false image of God they’ve preached for centuries….The church is following the beast image of God just as it says in Revelation.

        • J Kitty says:

          J Kitty
          We need the true Word of God, not some human’s ‘knock off’ thoughts. “This 100% contradicts” the true Word of God, the CEV. FYI, the church, the TRUE CHURCH, is gone by Revelation 6, when the tribulation begins. Is your god (as you spell it) is not the True, Living God? Huge difference between ‘god’ and ‘God’.

        • Frank A Hanson says:

          Michael if you read the bible at all you should know that when you use a little g for God, your talking about Idols and or Satan. I can kind of see that you are one of those who say God is Love and that”s all you care about. Well God has revealed Himself to humanity and it much much more than just love. There’s a movement today, that says all I need to know about is God’s Love. Are you part of this crowd Michael? There is a great White Throne Judgement coming, where the books ( Not just the Book of Life but books ( A Mystery) that are keeping a record of ever right and wrong of those even in Hell. The inhabitants of Hell will be brought up out of the depths and JUDGED a second time and then thrown into the lake of fire. If your going to quote scripture, DONT !!! quote it until you understand the whole counsel of what God intended in the passage which has been revealed to us in “HIS” Holy Word. Proverb: The wise man knows when to keep his tongue still. You seem to have very little knowledge about the Bible. Please if you truly care about what God thinks you will study and pray and praise and then do it again and again and again. So when you quote 1 Cor: Love keeps no record of wrongs. Understand it in the context in which your reading it and the Bible as a Whole Prefect revelation of God and who “HE” is and what “HE” wants from us. Because God……IS keeping a record of every thought and deed that you do. Don’t use a verse to sum up the Nature and the Word of God. It is just wrong and has very dangerous eternal repercussions. You and I know nothing compared to God ; For My Ways are NOT your ways and MY Thoughts are Not your thoughts, says the Lord our God. Think about what your doing and saying when it comes to God. IT IS THAT IMPORTANT!!! Blessings, may God reveal “HIMSELF” to you. Pray on your face. Frank

  13. PASTOR LARUE says:

    New York:
    PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES: I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE MALACHI MARTIN PROPHECY.

    THAT WAS IN A ARTICLE FROM ROME IN 2007, THAT THE ACTUAL YEAR OF THE “TRIUMPH OF THE IMMACULATE HEART” OF 2013.

    IN OUR LADY OF FATIMA OF THE 3RD SECRET FROM SISTER LUCY PREDICTED A GREAT APOSTASY WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH WOULD GIVE RISE TO A GREAT HERESY WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WHICH WAS ALSO PREDICT BY OUR LADY OF GOOD SUCCESS OF THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH OR ONE WORLD CHURCH.

    ALSO IN THIS PREDICTION OF THE 3RD SECRET REFERS TO RUSSIA STARTING A WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

    COULD BE POSSIBLY REFERS TO THE MAGOG WAR WHICH WAS PROPHECY IN EZEKIEL CHAPTERS 38 & 39!

    ALSO IN THE 3RD SECRET THAT POPE BENEDICT WOULD BE HUNTED DOWN AND KILLED.

    ACCORDING TO THE PROPHECY IN THE 3RD SECRET THE NEXT POPE WILL BE NAMED “PETER THE ROMAN” HE WILL BE THE FINAL POPE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND HE WOULD BE THE FALSE PROPHET OF THE PERSECUTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    THIS IS ALL COMING TOGETHER AT A RAPID SPEED NOW!

    DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS!

    • Frank Hanson says:

      Amen!!! about its all coming together at rapid speed. So True and very very exciting, I cant wait to see my Savoir Jesus Christ. Blessings, Frank

      • Michael says:

        Apostasy, war and destruction = “Amen?”

        I’m confused

        Immaculate heart = Apostasy, war, and destruction?

        I’m confused

        Most will be lost = Good news?

        I’m confused

        Victory in Jesus = Most will be lost?

        I’m confused

        Most of mankind will suffer alive in hell for eternity = Good news?

        I’m confused

        Wolves in sheep’s clothing = I’m not confused

  14. Joanne Taylor says:

    “First I am thy Lord thy God, thy shalt not have strange Gods before me”.

  15. Byron says:

    What’s very interesting is that ‘they’ (ill-loons) knew they could not wait for this pope to pass naturally, you know they thought of other means?There are a lot of great reply’s but please c/out Tom Horn’s book “Petrus Romanus” (pray before reading) it’s very disturbing! I (most of us here?) do believe Jesus will take His Bride Home soon, if a while longer, we’ll stay faithful! The resigning of this Pope is Huge, daily put on His Armour of Eph 6, it will get ugly quick and the Harvesting is not finished! Brother Jeff show last eve. (Sunday 10th) had His (Lord) Spirit all over it, God bless you brother. It was divine!
    Anyone knows if NTEB’s has a picture of there tract? I’ll try not to just drive by! God bless!

    • Michael says:

      The only armor you need is 1 Corinthians 13:5 Contemporary English Version….Even if you only use the KJV, do you see evil that others do? The elect have been deceived into worshiping a hideous beast image of God. There is no greater act of violence you can conceive in your mind than eternal suffering alive in hell, and we were tricked into bowing down to it, and telling others that if they didn’t bow down, they would be cast into a fiery furnace for eternity. Notice what Daniel 3:1-6 says about this false image and those cast in the furnace?

  16. Pat says:

    New York: It was Harold Camping who predicted the end would come in 1988, then 1994, then 2011.

    As a general note, Scripture clearly states that no man knows the day or the hour.

  17. Again I am just stating facts that you can look up yourself on Hal Lindsey.

    I only use the King James Version of the bible so there can be no confusion. Everywhere I go I go with KJV bible in my hand or pocket.

    Again do not attack me for stating facts about Hal Lindsey I merely state that the information we should seek is in the bible not in Hal Lindseys book, website or information because he has made several false predictions and made money off that information.

    Just the facts, only trying to help inform. Up to you to decided. But I will stick with my King James Bible.

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      In fact, Hal Lindsey is the next door neighbor to a very good friend of mind who lives in California. I can tell you first hand you are spreading lies and rumors and you need to confront Hal with this and then apologize to him for spreading such rumors..and then, you need to go repent to God for such a preposterous act. God bless you… I hope you do what is right!

      • O so its personal. So if your father was the antichrist then thats ok. Just saying hypothetical. Again you took it personally for reasons that we can see now. Your personally connected to your who is a neighbor to Hal so Hal could not have possibly done those things. Again not here to argue just bringing truth to light.

      • Hal has openly admitted he was wrong and apologized for it. Proving my facts were straight. But again its something you need to see for yourself.

      • The MAD Jewess says:

        Hal Lindsay is a GOOD man.
        ]We are supposed to DISCERN all things, not throw out the baby with the bath water.

        People should be MORE concerned with this satanic govt and asking the spirit how to RESIST it than worrying about attacking another person who shares the same beliefs.

    • John says:

      NY – Put up or shut up. Where is your citation? Others have quoted Mr. Lindsey which clearly refute your lies. Mr. Lindsey is not called the “father of modern prophecy” for nothing. I was also blessed by his books, many of which I have. His work is timeless and he is a wonderful brother in Christ.

  18. Let me put it to you this way. If anyone here was completely deceived by something or someone and they had no idea they had been deceived. Yet their entire fate for an eternity rested on it. Would you want someone to let you know?

    Well I am that person, rest easy knowing I will not let that happen and if I see it I will let you know.

    Maybe now you can understand just what kind of God fearing and God loving friend I can be to you and how it might just be a good thing to have me as a friend and in your corner. Cause whether you want to hear it or like it or not, if its true I will tell ya. I do not state things without investigating them in depth first. If I do not know I do not talk on those subjects, topics ect ect.

    God Bless I am your friend and my love of Christ is strong. :)

    • Ruby Lillian says:

      God Bless You New York. I am very grateful to call you friend.

      • Thanks Ruby. God Bless you too! :)

        • Ruby Lillian says:

          Did some research and found a list….

          In a message recorded in 1979 Hal Lindsey made the following predictions …

          *Lindsey predicts a limited nuclear war before 1984 and an all out world war before 1989

          *Lindsey predicts that the world will run out of all raw materials before 1986

          *Lindsey predicts that the “Jupiter Effect” will occur in 1982 and at that time dams will burst and nuclear power plants will have major melt downs

          *Lindsey predicts that the European Union will be the most powerful entity in the world by the mid 1980’s

          *Lindsey announces that the Antichrist is alive and well in Europe as he is making this speech and will soon make his appearance

          *Lindsey predicts the murder of all Mormons

          *Lindsey says that by the end of the 1980’s the Arab nations will have a complete strangle hold on America and dominate the wealth of the U.S.

          *Lindsey predicts that Russia will invade Jerusalem in the 1980’s and that the U.S. will be powerless to do anything about it.

          *Lindsey announces to the people of his audience that the rapture will occur in their lifetime.

          According to Hal Lindsey all of these predictions are based on “Clear Bible prophecies”.

          You be the judge.

  19. Mike says:

    One thing is for sure,..JESUS CHRIST IS OUR SAVIOUR.! Weather or not the next Pope be Petrus Romanus or not JESUS WILL STILL BE OUR SAVIOUR.! PRAISE THE LORD!

  20. Catholics already worship the antichrist, the pope.

  21. NewMan says:

    I still listen to what Hsk has to say. He has admitted to being wrong. I listen to many different people who claim to be right, Half, Erwin, Ice, NewYork, Malachi, there are many. I then compare them to The Word of God. And I’m not stuck on one version. I AM stuck on what The Holy Spirit leads me to understand. I’ve been waiting for this pope thing for a long time and I think its big. Its another tool that God is using to let us know that we are in the end time. Don’t fight over it !!! Use it !!! Your friends and lived ones are going to burn in hell . . . Use this and the many other signs to convince them that they need Jesus as their Savior. Stop the fighting that has come to be so prevalent on this site. We are family and the time is short.

  22. NewMan says:

    I posted from my phone. It picks words FOR me. I meant Hal a couple of times in my last post.

  23. Oneofhisown says:

    No matter how you cut it, the resignation of the pope right now is a big deal. This current pope is not the one who will align with Satan for the end events. So, he needed to be gone. I can only hope that we are now getting the last pope. I find the prophecy interesting considering the timing but it is really how it fits with the rest of the events in the world that matters. Every day, it seems, something new is coming into alignment with scripture. I am expecting something big to happen by the time Obama goes to Israel. That is not because I am a prophet but because I can read and I can see the news.

  24. Lyn Leahz says:

    Check this out..this guy annoys me in the very beginning..but listen to what he says!

  25. NewMan says:

    And God bless Hal Lindsey !!!

  26. MSb says:

    This is just a personal observation from a former Catholic now saved by Jesus from legalism. My belief is that the “great apostasy” that is referred to in the Fatima letters (see Pastor Larue’s post, above) may be a schism in the Catholic Church between the conservative and liberal elements currently struggling for power. The conservative element, as you might imagine, is against abortion, birth control, women in the priesthood, etc. The liberal element, naturally, thinks there’s room for all those things and wonders why we can’t all just get along. (I am personally against all of them, but that’s just me.) I could imagine the Catholic church splitting in two, with one branch being the conservative church, and the other the liberal, which will be deceived and follow the antichrist. I can also imagine the conservative element being the one that is vilified and deemed “outcast” and behind the times, and millions of unwary Catholics will follow the prevailing leadership into that liberal branch and be carried along into apostasy. I am no prophet, but this is the scenario that suggests itself to me. I would be interested in other viewpoints, especially from former Catholics like myself.

  27. Lyn Leahz says:

    Woo hoo! You go! I stand in agreement with you weatherman.

    • Thanks, Lyn. This isn’t my first run-in with NY. People like him are just “spiritual” bullies trying to push their weight around. It is hard, but people like him are to be pitied.
      MARANATHA!

  28. NewMan says:

    Very good video Lyn. And yes good advice on translations too. Back before the WWW , I had a Jewish translation and sounds like what you are talking about. It was also tied to Strongs concordance, which was the only way to really study. Anyway good job and God bless you !!!

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      Thanks NewMan. You too! You can never go wrong with the Word of God straight from the Jesus texts. That is where King James got his, although he wrote it with some anti semitism as well as some other misinterpretations. The Jewish Bible has none of that..so it’s the way to go. I want so much to know ‘exactly’ what God wants me to know..no mistakes..as close as I can get. God bless you!

  29. Lyn Leahz says:

    Then you need to take it to Hal Lindsey. You are wrong, but I’m done with this conversation. Again, since you know the Bible so well, then certainly you must know that haughtiness, arrogance, and spreading rumors are very against God. And, you would also know that the Bible says if we have a problem or a complaint against someone, to take it to them. The internet has made it easier to do such a thing with people like Hal. I will pray for you. In the meantime, I can only hope you will stop spreading untruths about people in the Body of Christ. Just like weatherman said. See ya! I’m done with this one.

  30. Newman said Hal admitted he is wrong. God Bless Hal, for once he was caught and money slowed he turned towards God. He is in my prayers.

    Like I said I will always bring the truth to light. Whether people like it or not. Anyone who does not want a friend like that in these times is out of there minds. Again God Bless :)

  31. A black pope and a black president of the USA hmmmm

  32. Lyn Leahz says:

    I know how that is because on my websites, I get bashed all the time by fellow ‘christians’ for not sugar coating the truth of God. I don’t believe in this modern day watered down gospel message many are preaching. I boldly speak the truth. But we are talking about a person here…not the Word of God. Ooops..I said i was done. Sorry. Anyhow…a follower of Jesus needs to be very careful when it comes to saying things about other people. What you are saying is not true. God bless you anyways because you feel like you are telling the truth….and you believe in what you are saying…but if I were you, I would go straight to the source rather than be guilty for something that is not true.

  33. Lyn Leahz says:

    That is absurd. And thank you, you have proved my point. Now you are making accusations against me, and judging me. I am glad you did that, though…because you have just watered down your own message further. A true follower of Jesus Christ, who stands on the Word of God does not judge another person, nor do they bash fellow believers. You are filled with pride, and more concerned about being right in your judgments than you are in doing as God commands in His Word. I do not know Hal personally, although I email from time to time because I post some of his prophecy news updates. Furthermore, a fellow minister of the Lord lives next door to him, whom I know. But I myself do not know Hal personally, nor do he and I ever discuss Hal, other than he told me once he lives next door to him.

    The Bible tells us that we can judge other people by their fruits. Your fruits wreak of judgment, ridicule, sarcasm, and pride. As a believer in Christ, I must tell you that you are out of line and need to humble yourself.

  34. PASTOR LARUE says:

    NEW YORK:

    HAL LINDSEY WAS RIGHT IN POINTING OUT IN HIS BOOK ” LATE GREAT PLANET EARTH” BUT HE GOT INTO DATING THESE EVENTS THAN LOOKING FOR THE SIGNS OF THESE EVENT’S.

    BUT THIS DOES NOT MAKE HIM LESS OR MORE AS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN?

    MSB: I BELIEVE THAT POPE PETER THE ROMAN WILL BE THE FALSE PROPHET BUT POPE BENEDICT WILL SUFFER DEATH AS HE TAKES PART OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH UNDER GROUND AND TEACHES AGAINST THE FALSE PROPHET TEACHINGS.

    I COME FROM MY FATHER AS A HEBREW AND MY MOTHER AS A ROMAN CATHOLIC A CONFUSING UP BRINGING OF 2 RELIGIONS!

    NOW WHO THE ANTICHRIST?

    OH! HE’LL APPEAR RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION.

    HOPEFULLY I’LL BE GONE, CAUGHT UP INTO THE CLOUD WITH JESUS?

  35. Lyn Leahz says:

    Amen. Read my last two comments. I added the second comment because I didn’t explain well enough on the judgment issue, which could have come across contradictory. So I explained in the second comment.

  36. Lyn Leahz says:

    Here..for all to see..I found the actual commentary and segment in the book NY is referring to….and it does not set a date! Check it out for yourself:

    The Late Great Planet Earth’ published way-back in 1970, such an accusation against Lindsey does not make any logical sense that Lindsey would even dare to predict such a Divine Event, as to know the date dogmatically. Lindsey himself stated on His official web site that He was tired of being ‘taken out of context.’ On page 54 of his book ‘The Late Great Planet Earth, Lindsey states in regards to which Generation was Christ speaking of in Matthew 24:34 – Lindsey writes below.

    ================
    “What Generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs — chief among them the rebirth of Israel. A Generation in the Bible is something like 40 years. ‘IF (note the IF) THIS IS A CORRECT DEDUCTION’, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things ‘COULD’ (note the COULD) take place.”

  37. PASTOR LARUE says:

    MY WIFE;
    THINKS THIS POPE WITH BE THE GREATEST POPE OF ALL TIME, AS SHE’S A CATHOLIC, BUT DOESN’T ATTEND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, REFUSES TO READ THE HOLY BIBLE, I’M NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE SCRIPTURES AROUND HER FAIMLY AND HER MOTHER BELIEVES I’M A VERY GOOD MAN TO THE FAMILY BUT I’M A RELIGIOUS FANATIC!

    SOON THEY WILL FIND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS POPE!

  38. Lyn Leahz says:

    I just proved you wrong, I’m afraid. Hal DID NOT admit this..he is TIRED of people taking him out of context, and I pasted the exact part out of his book in question. I do NOT see a date there. Thank you.

  39. Well thank the Lord someone is looking for the truth. But again Hal openly apologized for it proving he did do it. Keep looking though that is what we are to do.

    OR you could do what I initially recommend and that is to be cautious of Hal because of this, even though he admitted doing it and he was wrong.

    My initial recommendations were to stick to the bible. Again God Bless :)

  40. Lyn Leahz says:

    AGAIN:

    There is a rumor that Hal Lindsey had falsely predicted the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ to occur in 1988 as though Lindsey was dogmatic too about this “supposed prediction’ he had made, but when you read Lindsey’s careful commentaries from his first book ‘The Late Great Planet Earth’ published way-back in 1970, such an accusation against Lindsey does not make any logical sense that Lindsey would even dare to predict such a Divine Event, as to know the date dogmatically.

    Lindsey himself stated on His official web site that He was tired of being ‘taken out of context.’ On page 54 of his book ‘The Late Great Planet Earth, Lindsey states in regards to which Generation was Christ speaking of in Matthew 24:34 – Lindsey writes below.

    ================
    “What Generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs — chief among them the rebirth of Israel. A Generation in the Bible is something like 40 years. ‘IF (note the IF) THIS IS A CORRECT DEDUCTION’, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things ‘COULD’ (note the COULD) take place.”

    • By into what you like but if your sticking up for Hal this strongly what are you going to do when friends and family turn towards anitchrist. I will say nothing further. Your in my prayers.

      • Lyn Leahz says:

        And you are in mine as well. I just pasted the actual part in the book….for you to see…..yet you still deny. Man, you sure have a major pride problem. That is straight from Satan himself, just so you know. I have to get some things done. See ya!

      • John says:

        The Lord rebuke you, son of Satan.

  41. Sparrow says:

    Just for the record, I am a HUGE Hal Lindsey fan! I don’t like reading all this negative stuff about him. Thanks Lyn for your defense of him.

  42. Lyn Leahz says:

    YOu accidentally wrote that to me! LOL

  43. Lyn Leahz says:

    And I will take up for any true follower of Jesus Christ any day of the week…Hal Lindsey, or Joe Blow on the street collecting garbage. Doesn’t matter. I will never resort to spreading lies and gossip about anyone…we aren’t even to gossip about unbelievers….no one! Zero…zilch…nada.

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      To New York: I will even take up for the unbeliever if he or she is under unwarranted attack. I will always defend what is right and I will prove wrong what is wrong!

  44. Is O’bama putting himself above GOD by visiting Israel 5 days before the feast of the passover or Easter, he’ll be entering Jerusalem just like JESUS did..is he going to proclaim peace in our time… Has he become the antichrist,.. While Rome would have named their Pope…maybe the 2 of them will be together as in the antichrist and the false prophet…..

  45. PASTOR LARUE says:

    SPARROW: THAT WAS MY 1ST BOOK ON PROPHECY, AND MAYBE THAT PUT ME ON MY KNEES TO BECOME A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN? I READ HIS BLOG AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK!
    HE GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THE PRE-TRIBULATION BEFORE THAT I WAS A POST-TRIBULATIONIST!
    WHATEVER WE WRITE OR NOT, WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND IF WE REPENT OUR SINS GOD WILL FORGET THEM, BUT HUMAN NATURE DOES NOT FORGET OUR SINS! AND HUMANKIND TEND TO BE VERY RUDE TO US!

  46. Lyn Leahz says:

    Yeah, if you watch that video by that man up their I posted..he explains all that. And he is pursing a peace treaty. Things are coming together so quickly!

  47. PASTOR LARUE says:

    NEW YORK: PLEASE ALLOW PEOPLE TO BELIEVE AS THEY WISH THAN SOLVING DOWN THEIR WIND PIPES YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SCRIPTURES. THEN BEING RUDE TO THEM, “I’LL PRAY FOR YOU”

    SO AS THEY ARE ALL WRONG IN THEIR OPINIONS, AND YOUR THE VOICE FOR ALL CHRISTIANS, AND YOU HAVE TO CORRECT THEM!

  48. Lyn Leahz says:

    Amen. The Holy Spirit is telling me that people like this are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are sent to cause dissension and corruption. I think the wisest thing we could all do at this point is just ignore this person and move forward..and enjoy the great prophetic events that have taken place today….preparing ourselves for our redemption that is to come. Amen? I know it’s tempting, but people like that, after some time, need ignored. I humble myself in that I have gone on too long about it as well, which is not pleasing to God. There is no benefit in this conversation for God, and I repent before Him and say that it is wrong of me to partake for such a time in such a meaningless, ungodly conversation as I’ve been having with New York.

    I urge everyone to give God glory and praise and ignore the works of the enemy. “Get behind me Satan!” and let’s move on. Satan is not called a stumbling block for no reason.

  49. plus the fact the Iranian predency comes to an end and he’s the one who wants to start armegeddon to bring their Mahdi….

  50. Peter Ramsey says:

    Most people believe there are 66 books in the King James Version.
    Well, that’s not true. The American Bible Society removed the Apocrypha (still found in Bibles published in the UK) and I own a copy!
    Note: The Jerusalem Bible contains 74 books, including the Apocrypha – but they are not the same books as the King James!
    Since the Apocrypha is tained with Greek philosophy (written in Alexandria, Egypt circa 400 A.D.) it might be wise to conclude the American Bible Society did the right thing, but a lot of people out there would have a hard time believing a group of editors from the USA were divinely inspired.

    • Diane says:

      Er, are you serious with this one? I also own a British KJV (Produced by Cambridge University Press, with the seal of the British Crown and the original address of the translators to King James on page 3) and it does contain 66 books. The Jerusalem Bible is ecumenical, that says is all.

  51. PASTOR LARUE says:

    NTEB NEWS DESK:

    WATCH OUT WHAT THIS CROWD IS TAKING ABOUT, LIKE SOME THEY WILL SOLVED AT YOU THE SCRIPTURES.
    I DO BELIEVE IN THE HEBREW AND GREEK TRANSLATION ARE CLOSER TO THE TRUTH OF THE GOD’S SCRIPTURES THAT I STUDIED IN SEMINARY SCHOOL BUT THIS IS YOUR WEB SIT?

  52. Lyn Leahz says:

    It depends on who made the list, sister. Did Hal Lindsey make the list? Did a trustworthy source compile the list? I went straight to Hal Lindsey’s website for my info. I can go right now and type up whatever I want, upload it to the net, and say whatever..doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

  53. Byron says:

    Years ago (45 years) I was detained for a couple of years. I had only the org. King James version and w/the help of the Lords sweet Spirit I could understand it. What Zondervan, Wycliff etc are doing is blasphemy by deception! Those who add or take away will be Judged harshly if done with content! I have a problem w/some of these lone theologians that have big media time coming out w/there own versions! Those like Grant Jeffery I have not a problem with when they just ‘high-lite’ w/color for understanding! Many have a problem w/Dake, I’ve never looked into it. I’m not a scholar of theology, I greatly respect those who take the true Berean view, I do believe that Paul would pray in private in a Spiritual tongue! I know a few times in my life where His Spirit had emerged me (like a tea bag soaking in warn water) in His Spirit! once I was reading the begot’s while it seemed boring the Lord’s Holy Spirit (like turning on a light) just took over and brought the understanding to the begat’s from Abraham… to the virgin Mary who helped nurture Jesus! What I’m trying to say is that His Spirit gave understanding which was engulfing! You just don’t forget these special moments! No body can tell me that it was something other than the Lord, He knows us, it’s His choice on how He chooses to deal with us, even though we’re Christians (Saved) He shows us His different ways (Scripture, worship etc) He communicates w/us. I believe the various communicating ways may play a part more so in the hour we’re in because ‘they’ (technology etc)k now how to trigger the pineal gland in our brains electronically from a distance (check out G.W.E.N towers) making a person think (believe) they are hearing from (G)god! This is why it’s critical, critical to test the spirits! If the spirit is evil, test it, you ask (in Jesus name) many times you’ll sense the evil of the entity going off swearing or just an evil depression! If it’s of the Lord many times it will have a sweet harmony or yes (mental) assuring! Sometimes the answer does not come at the moment but if it’s a critical situation I’ll assure He’ll tell you! This only works for those who are Saved by the blood of Christ Jesus! Sa-tan will test you on this, he’ll never let up, he may leave you alone for a while but he is a cunning snake that slivers his way through the camel dung back to you! Don’t ever tell someone that particular sin could never take a hold over you, you are just opening the door, the beast might not come cross the thresh-hold until the time is right for him and your guard is down! Time of pandemonium are a tool of his! Sa-tan is like a wise young aggressive lion who will stalk you for the time to pounce! That’s why Paul spelled out the tools in Ephesians 6! I’ve seen this happen many times of brothers, sisters who’d would say no way that won’t happen to me! I too have fell into this! Praise God not all Christians take that plunging bate! We the Spirit of God in us at all times warning us, if you get that not right notion, run! There is no worse feeling (situation) than that of a brother or sister caught up in sin! Sa-tan loves rubbing ( this in the Lord’s face, it’s like a trophy for Sa-tan! Sin may seem fun, that season is short, w/out Jesus it will be eternity in Hell!
    If a brother or sister is caught up into the wiles of the devil, pray, ask the Lord to help you help them, love them! If they are in your church, causing problems, this has to be dealt with in a serious Biblically way, this is the stuff that divide’s congregation if left unattended! Some may not be wolves but misunderstood, when dealing with ‘them’ the same ways of the wolves, that person may get turned off of the ways of the Lord never to attend a church again and may speak venomously of the Body of Christ. There are a lot of born again’s that will never re-enter the House of God but still love the Lord! Yes, I’ve meant and know a few of these!

    God bless,
    when we
    all finally
    get Home
    the miss –
    understandings
    will be no more!

  54. Lyn Leahz says:

    Did you know Wycliffe has come up with a Bible that has the Quran in it? Debauchery! Blasphemy! Do you all know about Chrislam? The emergence of the one world religion? I know I’ve made lot’s of posts about it, and so has our dear brother here at NTEB. We all need to be very careful about deceptive things these days.

  55. PASTOR LARUE says:

    LYN: OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST! HE PART MUSLIM, PART WHITE, PART BLACK!

    ANTICHRIST WILL BE HALF JEWISH AND HALF ROMAN, AS BEFORE AS HITLER WAS HALF JEWISH. AND HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD TO ONE WORLD ORDER!

    THAT WHY THE ANTICHRIST GET THE JEWS TO BELIEVE HE’S THE MESSIAH!

    BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRIBULATION ANTICHRIST HE’LL PROCLAIM HIMSELF AS GOD, AND THE JEWS WILL FINALLY OPEN THEIR EYES TO THE TRUTH!

    AS IN MALACHI CHAPTER 3: GOD TALKS ABOUT SENDING HIS MESSAGER EJIJAH. UNTIL THIS EVENT HAPPEN, WHICH IS STATE TWO MESSAGERS, AS I BELIEVE WILL BE MOSES AND ELIJAH THAT BRINGS IN THE MESSIAH ( AS IN MATTHEW 17:3) THEN THE JEWS WILL BELIEVE THE MESSIAH IS/WAS JESUS CHRIST AS THERE LOVING GOD! AND EVERY JEW WILL GO TO THEIR KNEES AND WORSHIP THE MESSIAH! THESE TWO WITNESSERS ARE JUST FOR THE UNBLIEVING JEWS! IN THE 1ST PART OF THE TRIBULATION THE 144,000 VIRGIN JEWS WILL WITNESESS TO JEWS AND GENTLES THAT REFUSE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION TO BELIEVE IN JESUS AS OUR SAVIOR.

    AND HIS SAINTS WILL ALREADY BE IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS CHRIST BEFORE THE TRIBULATION.

    SO AT ANY MOMENT UP TO THE TRIBULATION WE SAINTS WILL BE CAUGHT UP INTO THE CLOUDS TO ME JESUS IN THE AIR AND GO TO HEAVEN IN OUR NEW HEAVENLY BODIES!

  56. Lyn Leahz says:

    No one knows who for sure is the Antichrist. And Obama does fit the bill so far. I hate to tell you. He is from North Africa, which is ancient Egypt, and so much more. You should read Islamic Antichrist by Joel Richardson and watch these vids here. Then come back to me. I can’t say he definitely IS..because again, even the best scholars do not yet know. I can only say that he could be. http://vineoflife.net/2013/01/29/obama-watch-this-decide-for-yourself/

    • Diane says:

      Ok, I hope the comment won’t come up twice as I’ve tried earlier but it didn’t work. I was saying [quote myself :)]

      Hi again! Obama is from North Africa? His father was a Kenyan. Kenya is on the Eastern coast of the African continent (mid/South). True that his skin kinda looks like that of an Egyptian (not the hair though) but this is only due to his mixed race origins. Also, to be accurate, Ancient Egypt didn’t cover the whole of Northern Africa, far from it. The Bible mentions Puth, which designates Lybia, that country West of Egypt (still today). The rest of Northern Africa to the West, was a sort of barbaric zone, meaning without any noteworthy civilisation, if any.

  57. PASTOR LARUE says:

    BYRON:

    NEVER PUT DOWN YOUR INTELLIGENTS ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES, AS WE ARE ALL STUDENTS LEARNING THE MEANING OF THE SCRIPTURES, THERE IS NO SCHOLARS!

    ACCEPT THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS, JESUS, AND NOT BUT LEAST SATAN!

  58. PASTOR LARUE says:

    LYN.

    THIS IS MY OPINION, IF YOU LEARNED WHO THE ANTI- CHRIST IS?

    YOU GOT LEFT BEHIND!

    ALL ALL THE SAINTS HAVE ALREADY LEFT FOR HEAVEN!

  59. PASTOR LARUE says:

    TALKING ABOUT NEW BIBLES:

    THE QUEEN JAMES VERSION FOR HOMOSEXUAL

    AND

    THE JEFFERSON VERSION THAT TAKE VERSION OF THE GOSPELS OUT OF CONTENT, WHICH I HEARD WAS USED WHEN OBAMA TOOK OFFICE FOR HIS 2ND TERM!

  60. PASTOR LARUE says:

    NEW YORK:

    WHERE ARE YOU?

  61. PASTOR LARUE says:

    MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT CALLS HIM THE MESSIAH ARE JUST IN FOR THE ENTITLEMENTS AND THEY ARE JUST LOST ONES

  62. PASTOR LARUE says:

    NTEB: DID I SAY SOMETHING WRONG AGAINST YOUR WEB SITE, AS YOUR BLANKING ME?

  63. Copy and paste the link between the quotes into your web browser (my FB Note: The Coming World Leader?) and see what you think, Lyn: “https://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/notes/leonard-belisle/the-coming-world-leader/172219366167441”

    BTW, you probably know this already but the POSITIVE identity of the AC will not be revealed until AFTER the PRE-Trib Rapture of the Church. ;)
    MARANATHA!

  64. Debra says:

    Sorry folks, but we will be here at the revealing of the anti- christ! Some of us will be beheaded for our faith in the blood of Jesus and for not taking the mark or worshipping the beast.
    2 Thess. 1-4 Now I beseech you, brethern, by the Coming of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, and by OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM,( Rapture)
    (2) that you be not SOON SHAKEN in mind, or TROUBLED, neither by SPIRIT, nor by WORD, nor by LETTER as from US, as that THE DAY OF CHRIST is at HAND!
    (3) LET NO MAN, NO MAN, NO MAN, DECEIVE YOU BY ANY MEANS: for THAT DAY SHALL NOT, SHALL NOT, SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT< EXCEPT< EXCEPT there COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, A FALLING AWAY FIRST, A FALLING AWAY FIRST, and THAT MAN OF SIN, MAN OF SIN, MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED,BE REVEALED, BE REVEALED, the SON OF PERDITION, SON OF PERDITION, SON OF PERDITION!!!
    (4) Who opposeth and exalteth HIMSELF above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that HE as god sitteth in the temple of GOD, showing HIMSELF that HE is god.
    (5) Remember you not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    Matt. 24:29 IMMEDIATLY AFTER, IMMEDIATLY AFTER, IMMEDIATLY AFTER the TRIBULATION, TRIBULATION, TRIBULATION, OF THOSE DAYS shall the SUN BE DARKENED, and the MOON shall not give her LIGHT, and the STARS shall FALL from HEAVEN, and the POWERS of the HEAVENS shall be SHAKEN:
    (30) And THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN, shall appear the SIGN of the SON OF MAN in HEAVEN: and then shall ALL TRIBES OF THE EARTH MOURN, and they shall SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN with POWER AND GREAT GLORY!
    (31) And HE SHALL SEND HIS ANGELS with a GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET, A TRUMPET, A TRUMPET, and they SHALL GATHER, SHALL GATHER, SHALL GATHER, TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the FOUR WINDS, from ONE END OF HEAVEN TO ANOTHER!
    (34) Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS, SHALL NOT PASS, SHALL NOT PASS, till ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED!
    (35) HEAVEN and EARTH shall PASS AWAY, but MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY!

    Rev. 12: 17 And the dragon (devil)(anti-christ) was angry with the woman(Israel), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed(Christians), which keep the commandments of God, and have the TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST!
    Rev. 13:7 And it was given unto him(anti-christ) to make WAR with the SAINTS, and to OVERCOME THEM(Kill them); and POWER was given HIM(anti-christ) over ALL KINDREDS, and TONGUES, and NATIONS,
    (8) And ALL that dwell upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM(anti-christ) whose NAMES are NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD!!!!!

    Rev.7:9-16 After this I beheld, and, lo, a GREAT MULTITUDE, which no man could number, of ALL NATIONS, and KINDREDS, and PEOPLE, and TONGUES, stood before THE THRONE, and before THE LAMB, clothed with WHITE ROBES, and PALMS IN THEIR HANDS;
    (13) And one of the ELDERS answered, saying unto me, What are these which are ARRAYED in WHITE ROBES? and Where came they?
    (14) And I said unto him, SIR YOU KNOW. and HE said to me, THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION!!!! and have WASHED THIER ROBES, and made them WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB!!!!!!

    Daniel 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall INSTRUCT MANY; yet they shall FALL BY THE SWORD(beheaded), and by FLAME(nuclear), by CAPTIVITY(camps), and by SPOIL many days.
    (34) Now when they FALL, they shall be HELPED with a LITTLE HELP; but many shall CLEAVE to them with FLATTERIES!
    (35) And some of them with UNDERSTANDING shall FALL, TO TRY them, and TO PURGE, and to make the WHITE, even to the TIME OF THE END; because it is yet for A TIME APPOINTED!
    There is only ONE COMING OF THE LORD! No where does there teach a secret catching away! Every eye will see him at the last trumpet!
    Don't be put to sleep by fairy tales of escaping through a secret door! Paul pleaded with the church not to be shaken by reports of the coming of the Lord before the falling away and the anti-christ being revealed! Wake Up and let the Lord strengthen your heart in faith to withstand fear and taking the mark of the beast! Shalom!
    Satan does not want you to be prepared to face the wrath of his tribulation with faith, but full of fear when you find yourself still here and no pre-trib!
    Jesus is Lord and will help in time of need even when we go through persecution! Take care and God Bless all those who seek of the truth!

    • Debra, I am in full belief that the atonement for my sins has been paid in full, my Savior tells me so. Therefore if you are still here to witness the revealing of the anti-christ I will pray for you now, as I believe his saved will be caught up in the rapture. The anti-christ is revealed after this takes place according to Revelations.

  65. WELL…SAID, Frank!
    MARANATHA!

  66. I am New York / John 3:16’s friend NY has been banned from the site he said can not post and was threated with enoying freedom of speech cause its over. Keep spreading truth you and Ruby he said.

    • freespeech says:

      Well it seems like lyn has taken control over this website in one afternoon. New York has been posting on here and engaging Christians in dialogue for a very long time. People may not always agree with him but to call him Satan and get him banned is ridiculous. Thanks Lyn..thanks s lot.

    • Tracy says:

      NTEB said you had not been banned. You profess to be a Christian, then why do you lie? Also, this is not the only one that you have been caught in. You just kind of got beat-up with your post on this blog.
      God Bless You

  67. If you’d like to examine an essay about a PROOF-TEXT for a PRE-Trib Rapture written by Dr. Tommy Ice, Copy and paste the link between the quotes into your web browser, Debra:
    “http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-TheRapturein2Thessal.pdf”
    MARANATHA!

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      I grew up pre trib and have thoroughly studied, researched, and heard every aspect of it. I grew up in a Baptist church, although I am not presently Baptist. However, John Shorey’s book fits the scriptures overwhelmingly more than the pretrib theory, and, all the events I’ve seen taking place over the past year and this year already, seem to lean more toward mid trib. Like I said, there’s no point trying to prove or disprove either one to me, as I’ve grown up pre trib. I’m not saying I’m either one right now..just leaning both ways and uncertain. Believe me, I would much prefer a pre trib..but I can’t help that his book truly fit the scriptures more than pre trib. ;-)

  68. Debra says:

    I grew up in the baptist church also Lyn, but I never could swallow the pre-trib doctrine,. I have studied it for years also and came to the conclusion that we will be here for the wrath of satan (anti-christ). I too would love to fly out of here on a chariot to escape persecution. Who ever wanted to be persecuted raise your hand! I am not looking forward to seeing my family and I under deadly persecution when the anti-christ is revealed! Some people on these blog sites think us post-tribbers are jumping up and down because we are going to be under the anti-christ wrath. That’s simply not true! I just don’t want to be deceived into trusting in an escape plan! I want to put my trust in the Lord Jesus to give me faith and strength for whatever takes place in the near future! May the Lord guide you into the truth sister! No matter what, BE READY!

    • freespeech says:

      Best not to disagree with Lyn or she will call you a wolf or Satan. She got NY banned in one day. Bye the way Lyn..it looks like your tipping over in your picture or is that your lame attempt at a seductive pose?

  69. steven larue says:

    DEBRA: PERSONALLY I’M A COWARD! I RATHER GO OUT IN THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION. AS I SERVED IN THE VIETNAM WAR BEING WOUNDED IN ACTION, I GOT A TASTE OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO GOING OUT IN THE RAPTURE WOULD BE JUST GREAT! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO EVEN SET YOUR FOOT INSIDE THE GREAT TRIBULATION? ALL THAT HORROR WILL OCCUR IN THAT 7 YEAR PERIOD. WOULD NOT IT BE BETTER FOR YOU GETTING A HUG FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. AS OTHER HAVE DONE TO ME WITH THEIR RUDE COMMENT OF ME BEING WARN BY GOD. I DO NOT THINK I’M STUPID, I RATHER BE IN HEAVEN WITH OTHER SAINTS AND LEARNING LIKE A THINK TANK FROM ALL THE MAJOR AND MINOR PROPHETS AND THE APOSTLES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT! I DO NOT CARE IF JESUS ASKED ME TO CLEAN TOILETS IN HEAVEN FOR 1000 YEARS, AT LEAST I’M WITH A VERY LOVING PERSON: JESUS CHRIST! JESUS WOULD NEVER ATTACK ME WITH RUDENESS. A LOVING PERSON DOES NOT INSULTS OTHERS, THEY BUILD UP THEIR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST

  70. Lyn Leahz says:

    I think the most important thing is that we all know we’re in the day of Christ’s return..whether pre, mid, post…we’re there. And, we should all be prepared spiritually, as well as physically. Even if pre trib is correct, believers are not going to escape everything that happens. There could be power outages, food shortages, etc. and everyone needs to be ready. I have several good friends online who were VERY pre trib..I mean more than anyone here. They read the book I mentioned and now they are mid trib. The book is totally one hundred percent Bible based, no false doctrine, and it just has way more scripture backing it than does pre.

    Although both have their provable points, there was more to support mid. Again, I’m in between..just making sure I’m ready, no matter which ‘trib’ it is! LOL The thing that would confuse me if I were totally pre trib is this. The opening of the seals (which are not judgments..but the opening of the judgments) have already been taking p lace! The blood red bodies of water in other parts of the world, the blood red rain in Sri Lanka (which I have an internet friend in Sri Lanka who discussed it with me via email), The red horse rider, the pale horse rider, and so much more…things that the BIble specifically mentions will happen during the opening of the seals.

    The increase in persecutions, all of it. Jesus gave signs for us to look for that were specific for this time… If these signs happened here and there for any other time, He would not have given them, knowing then that we would be confused. And we know God does not cause confusion. Everyone, no matter pre, mid, post should research every aspect. It’s hard when u have been conditioned to one type of belief all your life….but if the pretrib theory is totally correct, then no one should fear to read John Shorey’s book at http://www.tribulationtruth.com In fact, they should want to just to disprove it. God bless all of you! It’s okay when we don’t agree on the exact same things re when Christ is coming..because nobody really knows exactly when. We can only speculate and it should be fun and interesting to hear other people’s thoughts, ideas, and opinions. That is how we learn!

  71. Lyn Leahz says:

    There is nothing more disheartening and sad than a group full of Christians doing nothing but attacking one another and beating each other up! It is like a den of lions, and each of us are hunks of raw meat! Brothers and sisters! We ought to be ashamed of ourselves! We are supposed to be out witnessing the truth to those who are lost, and bringing those who have wandered away back home. To what benefit is this? Why are God’s children sitting around fighting, nit picking, arguing? This is terrible. Let me just ask one question… If all of use were seated together in a room acting like this, and Jesus came walking in, what do you think He would say? What would He do? I believe He would be very angry…and yes…Jesus, God in the flesh, does and did get angry. We are commanded to obey, to speak truth, to tell others the truth because the truth sets free. How much time has been wasted today bickering and nit picking when it could have been spent saving a soul. Many died today and went to hell…might one of them been one you would have reached, in person, online, anywhere? Yet we were all sitting here bickering and arguing and now they are burning in hell eternal! Shame on all of us! May God have mercy!

    • Tracy says:

      Your nailed it! We should be more concerned about winning souls to Jesus Christ, and staying firm to our belief in Him as we get closer to the end.
      God Bless All

  72. johnjim says:

    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. First, if this is the last pope it’s not because St.Malachy or the “illuminati” say so. It’s because God has already ordained it to be so. Second, no one knows positively that the “false prophet” is a pope of the Catholic Church. He could be any religious leader at the time all of this actually unfolds. Thirdly, is it safe to assume that all of us here will be raptured before the “false prophet” and the “antichrist” are revealed thus rendering this discussion moot, unless of course you use this as a witnessing tool.

  73. Lyn Leahz says:

    I refuse to argue. God bless you. I hope you are having a beautiful day in Christ Jesus this day, and always. ♥ Peace be with you! 2 Chronicles 7:14

  74. Lyn Leahz says:

    God bless you. And of course I’ll check it out for you, Diane. I think you might be misunderstanding me though. While I check your post msg out, please check this one out. Thanks! ;-) http://lynleahz.com/2012/06/15/the-best-bible-there-is/ What is most wonderful is that we have freedom and access to the Bible to begin with. So many of us take it for granted. I saw a video the other day that showed people in other parts of the world where they aren’t allowed to have a Bible crying and holding it like a child holds a baby doll as they received the Bibles from organizations as a gift. It was moving. I think we would all get a lot more done if we spent time being the feet of God as we ought ministering the Bible and less time arguing over which one is the right one. God bless you and love to you in Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior! ♥

    • Diane says:

      Now that’s a quick answer! I was sort of wondering about this Jewish Bible you mentioned above, it does sound like the Hebrew Roots mvt because the KJV translators did translate from the Hebrew texts too, so what do you mean by the “Jesus texts”?

      Anyway, I’m a KJV reader because…well, the video explains it very well! :) Moreover you said you didn’t want to get into a debate about this, so my apologies for bringing it in the discussion from your post. And, of course, I’ll check your link, thank you.

  75. @Lyn, Debra, et al:
    What would you think of a bride-groom of yours that would wait until his father had nearly wiped out every man, woman, child, man-made structure, and natural formation on the face of the Earth…with YOU smack dab in the middle of it…and THEN come to take you (or what’s left of you) on a honeymoon???

    Come on…get REAL! ;)
    “Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will KEEP YOU {the PRE-TRIB RAPTURE} from the HOUR of TRIAL (the TRIBULATION) which shall come upon the whole world, to TEST those who DWELL ON THE EARTH (Left-Behinders…ONLY!).” (Rev 3:10)

    MARANATHA! :)

    • Lyn Leahz says:

      I am not post trib..however, we see in the Bible plenty of suffering for Christ. Peter was hung upside down on a cross, and it was either Jeremiah or Ezekiel (I am pretty sure it was Jeremiah) was sawed in half…and more. Christians over in the Middle East have their heads sawed off, are beaten, hung from a cross and burned alive almost daily just because they believe in Jesus. Christians suffer horribly all over the world and have for many years. Look at the Jews (most of the ..God’s chosen people, and what Hitler did to them?

      I guess the thing I have learned is that God doesn’t care so much for the flesh as He does the eternal soul. If the suffering/death of the flesh brings eternal life, then to God it is worth it. The flesh is temporal.

      When Jesus died on the cross, He took the keys of spiritual death from Satan..but not the physical. This is why we see children, babies, and innocent people suffer. Now if Satan’s plan interferes with God’s plan, then God will intervene. But the flesh, from the moment of conception, belongs to Satan until he is defeated once and for all. It is only the spirit man that Satan can’t have, if it is a child or a saved adult.

      The flesh is only sacred to us because it is all we know. But when compared to eternity, the flesh, in God’s eyes, is nothing. So…that is the best answer I can give to you.

      It is written, “Isaiah 55:8 King James Version (KJV) 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.”

      So we must all remember, no matter what, we can never understand all the ways of God. God bless you. ♥

  76. Lyn Leahz says:

    God bless you. I pray the Father fill you with the love of Jesus Christ.

    1 John 4:19-21

    King James Version (KJV)

    19 We love him, because he first loved us.

    20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

    21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

    Matthew 7:18-24 (King James Version)
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    Matthew 7:18-24

    King James Version (KJV)

    18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

    21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

  77. Lyn Leahz says:

    Why thank you. God bless you. I am surprised, actually, that this blog owner allows such things to be posted on his site. I would never allow my websites to be so out of control, nor would I allow such hurtful comments to be said to others. This is like a den of evil today. He banned a person, yet you are ten times more wicked.

    You do not hurt me because i know who I am in Christ, and it is the enemy attacking me. The enemy uses people like pawns. I stand with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and rejoice in Him. The arrows of the enemy bounce off of me because I am shielded by the Holy Spirit. Amen! Glory to God. Just know this…everything we say and do, we will be accountable for before God..and the way things are looking, very soon.

    God bless you. Hope you are having a lovely day.

  78. Lyn Leahz says:

    No problem sister. What version of the Bible we agree or disagree on will not separate us as sisters in Christ, or more importantly, from the love of Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior. Do not worry whatsoever about it. I think many of us are trying to understand things as best we can. In this world, it is very hard. Thank God that He judges our hearts, and not just our actions. No matter who is right or wrong on what, He first looks at the intent of our heart. That is what matters most. Love to you, sister, in Christ Jesus, and peace.

    • Diane says:

      Sure, however I think which version of the Bible you read does matter at some point. Like when some (like the NIV) leave more than 40 verses out including key words, isn’t that the work of darkness? As Truth and Light come from what is written (which will be uttered and heard -Romans 10.17 and hopefully heeded!!!), it’s rather crucial that this written record be sort of preserved and staunchly defended ! And that it come under careful scrutiny.

      Also, God looks at the intent of our heart, ok, but we are responsible for our actions and for unrelentlessly seeking out the truth. So that right and wrong they do matter in the end, don’t they? The Bible says we’ve got to watch our steps, let’s look at Proverbs 19.16 “He that keepeth the commandment keepeth his own soul; but he that despiseth his ways shall die.” Let’s not water down Bible doctrines by feelgood ideas but rather be sharp, what would be our salvation then if we missed the mark out of carelessness?

      We need to seek to be be pure in words and deeds for our Bridegroom! :) Coming soon!

  79. steven larue says:

    WE ALL BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS A LOVING GOD!
    AND GOD STATED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT CHILDREN- BOYS OF 13 YEARS AND GIRLS OF 12 YEARS ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR SINS-ITS JEWISH LAW. AND ALL THE CHILDREN WITH LEARNING DISABILITIES, WOULD GOD MAKES THEY ONES GO THROUGH THE HORRORS OF THIS COMING TRIBULATION?

    AND LET’S LOOK AT 1 COR. 15:51 ( THE WORD “MYSTERY” )

    IN THE CONFUSION THAT DAMASCUS JUST GOT BOMB, WITH A NUCLEAR BOMB THAT KILLED MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIAN LIVING IN DAMASCUS ( ISAIAH 17:1) THE MAGOG WAR STARTS HEATING UP AS ISREAL GET READY TO ATTACK IRAN. IN ALL THIS CONFUSION MILLIONS JUST VANISHED INTO THIN AIR ( 1 THESS. 4:16-17) AND THE ANTICHRIST IS COMING TO POWER. 1) THE ANTICHRIST DO NOT WANT US HERE, AS WE AS CHRISTIAN WOULD CAUSE HIM ALOT OF PROBLEM AND HE WANTS TO COME TO WORLD POWER, AS EASY HE CAN DO, WITHOUT ALOT OF FANTIC CHRISTIANS BOTHER HIM? 2.) IT STATES IN THE BIBLE THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAVE THIS EARTH BUT HE WILL PROVIDE 144,000 JEWS TO WITNESS IN THIS TIME PERIOD OF THE TRIBULATION. 3.) THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLS IN BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT HERE, THEN COMMON SENSE TELL US WE WILL NOT BE HERE!

  80. usc4life2 says:

    Amen Larue

  81. AGAIN I’LL STATE THIS AS I STATED TO NEW YORK HE NEEDS TO SURRENDER HIS COMPLETE LIFE OVER TO JESUS AND BECOME A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN. THEN HE WOULD HAVE A MORE LOVING NATURE INSIDE OF HIM. HE WANT TO PUSH HIS THEORY OR OPINIONS AS IT STATED ” YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED” TO MOST UNBELEIVERS WOULD RUN FROM HIM! THAT’S A BITTERNESS WITHIN HIM. IF LOVE OF GOD RESIDE IN HIM, IT WOULD SHOW IT IN HIS ACTIONS AND HIS WORDS. WE DO NOT WANT TO PUSH OTHERS AWAY FROM GOD!
    AND IF NTEB WEB SITE WANT US TO USE THE KJV BIBLE WHAT’S THE PROBLEM, THEY SET THIS WEB SITE UP FOR US! PRAISED JESUS! WE ARE TO SHOW KINDNESS FOR EACH OTHER!
    NTEB IS RIGHT: FREE SPEECH WON’T LAST MUCH LONGER, SURELY THE ANTICHRIST WOULD NEVER ALLOW US TO BLAST COMMENTS AGAINST HIM?

  82. WEATHERMAN1951
    HMMM, ARE YOU HUNDRY FOR GOD AND READY TO GO AND BE WITH HIM?

    I WAS BORN 8/4/1950

  83. Lyn Leahz says:

    Did you by chance, a long time ago on MSN chat over go by NewGuy?

  84. Too much arguing in all these posts, judging & condemnation! Just because you have read every version and translation of the Bible, if you did it without the Holy Spirit, you may have done it in vain. You can memorize the Bible and still be Lost. Accepting what Christ did for us and asking him to come into your life is what saves you. It is by his grace we are saved. We must witness to the lost and give them the pure and simple gospel.

  85. I’m ALWAYS looking forward to the Rapture, Steven! I was just giving a good-natured ribbing to Lyn and Debra about Mid-Tribbers and Post-Toasties… ;)

  86. Matthew 10:28 (KJV) says And fear not them which kill the body,but are not able to kill the soul:but rather fear HIM which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell….

  87. brian c hunter says:

    John 5:29 (KJV) says And shall come forth:they that have done good,unto the resurrection of life,and they that have done evil,unto the resurrection of damnation….

  88. Dave says:

    Mecca is also a 7 hill city. Unless the Catholic Church denies the Father and the Son, it will not be *the* antichrist.

  89. DAVE REMEMBER THE DEVIL IS CALLED ANTI, IN ANOTHER WORDS ITS ALL FALSE, THIS FALSE PROPHET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MECCA OR THE MUSLIMS. IF YOU HEAR HIM DENY THE FATHER AND THE SON, YOU GOT LEFT BEHIND! BECAUSE IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE HERE, I’LL ALREADY BE IN HEAVEN.

  90. NTEB News Desk says:

    Yes, I would like ALL of you to use the KJV….thank you.

  91. I LEARNED EARLIER IN LIFE DON’T RUBB THE BOSS THE WRONG WAY! LOOK AT NEW YORK?

  92. NTEB: THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT UP THE HEBREW BIBLE TRANSLATION OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, AS I’M A JEWISH CHRISTIAN AND I READ IN HEBREW AND ENGLISH. ALSO I’M LEARNING GREEK LANGUAGE! BUT KJV OK WITH ME!

  93. LINDSEY NEVER SET ANY DATE BUT TO DESTROY HIM OTHERS LIED HE WAS SETTING DATES, WHICH WAS TWISTING THE CONTENT OF HIS MESSAGE TO US! HE MADE ME COME TO THE LORD JESUS FOR MY SALVATION IN 1973!

  94. I’m wondering if Christians have REALLY thought through this often made statement, “I ONLY read the KJV. It is PERFECT and WITHOUT error.” My Spirit/scripture check and common sense tells me ONLY the ORIGINAL language manuscripts by the Holy Spirit-inspired writers were “perfect and without error.”

    “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in OLD TIME (the ORIGINALS) by the will of man: but HOLY MEN (the ORIGINAL manuscript authors in the ORIGINAL languages) of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2Pet 1:19-21 KJV ;) )

    Have you ever wondered why those original manuscripts were lost without a trace? I believe God did that to make sure we wouldn’t be able to make IDOLS of them (BTW, I am sure that is also why God hid Moses burial site), and I’m afraid that KJO’s have done just that with the good ‘ole King James.

    There is another VERY good, logical reason the PERFECT original Scriptural-autographs are nowhere to be found, and that there is no such thing as a PERFECT translation: God desired mankind to have PLAUSIBLE…DENIABILITY!

    God will NOT force people to believe in Him or His Scriptures by OBVIOUSLY revealing His PERFECT Self either in visual, audible, OR WRITTEN form (in the case of a SUPPOSEDLY perfect translation of the Bible).

    God wants us to depend on our FAITH in Him to lead us IMPERFECT Christians…through an IMPERFECT world…by way of IMPERFECT Scriptural translations!

    Obviously, some Bible translations are less faithful to the original autographs than others, but God can work His will through them too…just like He works His will through us less-than-faithful Christians.

    Finally, I will relate a rather “startling” experience that has served me well when it comes to the “HOT” subject of the Bible translations controversy.

    I’ve used a half dozen or so different translations over the long course of my life (40+years now) as a Christian. In my very early days as a believer, I used “The Book,” which is just a popular trade name for a “paraphrase” called The Living Bible (a commentary or rewording as opposed to a more literal translation). Back then, it was easier for me to understand than the King James Version (KJV), so I naturally spent more time in it than I would have had I started with the KJV!

    Just to show that God will meet you where you are at most of the time, I had a very interesting experience with “The Book” sometime after becoming a believer.

    I was sound asleep next to my wife in the middle of the night, when I heard an extremely loud, deep male voice slowly speak three numbers in succession that promptly woke me up. The voice was immediately followed by a single, tremendous crash of thunder that reverberated throughout our bedroom and echoed outside. I glanced over at my wife to see if she had been awakened too, but all I could see was her deep breathing in contented sleep. Resolving not to wake her, I then reached into the night-stand drawer, grabbed a pad of paper and a pen that we kept there for writing down phone messages, and scribbled the three numbers I was SURE came from God through one of His Messengers. Believe it or not, I went back to sleep as quick as I had awoken!

    The next morning, I looked at the piece of paper I had written the three numbers on and knew it had something to do with my Bible. I don’t know why, but I surmised it was a page number rather than a reference. When I turned to the page number in “The Book,” I read the chapter there and was amazed at what I knew was an answer to my long-term complaining to God about my difficult circumstances at the time! The answer I got from God (through the scripture) was that He was basically trying to keep me out of sin that would have caused Him to bring me home a lot earlier than my wife and kids would have liked! Needless to say, I took His advice, because I’m still around to write about it!

    Because God used “The Book” to get an important message to me, I’ve never gotten too worked-up about which Bible version Christians use (as long as they USE…IT!), because I am convinced God will take His children where He wants them to go regardless of the type of Bible they have.

    Shortly after the “Wake Up!” episode, I switched to the New International Version (NIV) for awhile; then went over to the KJV; then dabbled a bit with the New American Standard Bible (NASB); and then lastly to the New King James (NKJV). My primary “sword” is the NKJV because I like its combination of readability with accuracy, while still retaining some of that melodious “lilt” of the good ol’ KJV. But, I continue to “brandish” and study the other “blades” as needed. Since that memorable night long ago, I’ve managed to “rightly divide” The Word well enough to stay out of too much trouble with the LORD, so take it for what it’s worth! ;)

    Hope this helps.
    MARANATHA!

    • Diane says:

      “Since that memorable night long ago, I’ve managed to “rightly divide” The Word well enough to stay out of too much trouble with the LORD”

      Do you see life as a battle to “stay out of too much trouble with the LORD”?

      About the NKJV: honestly, that triquetra on the cover…it’s just too much. Do they also sell it with a broom? :p

      On a more serious note, you’re mentioning the accuracy and readability of the NKJV but changing “repent” into “relent” is a quite serious change on the spiritual level, for instance. Not to speak of the removal of God, Lord and heaven over 50 times.
      The NewKJV uses Hades and Sheol where the “good ol’ KJV” uses plain “hell”: that’s another point for the inspired translators of the authorised version! :)

      A good article on the KJV/NKJV “match” :
      http://av1611.org/nkjv.html

  95. Debra says:

    There is a false prophet that is suppose to be with the anti-christ, not the anti-christ if you read the bible! Rev.16:13 And i saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the dragon,(devil) and out of the mouth of the beast,(anti-christ) and out of the false prophet.
    (14) For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY!
    Rev.19:20 And the BEAST(anti-christ) was taken, and with HIM the FALSE PROPHET that wrought miracles before HIM(anti-christ), with which HE deceived them that had received the MARK OF THE BEAST,and them that WORSHIPPED HIS IMAGE. These BOTH were cast ALIVE into the LAKE OF FIRE BURNING WITH BRIMSTONE.
    Rev.20:10 And the DEVIL that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and BRIMSTONE, where the BEAST(anti-christ) and the FALSE PROPHET are, and shall be TORMENTED DAY and NIGHT FOREVER and EVER.
    Rev.20:15 And whosoever was not found WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE was CAST into the LAKE OF FIRE.

    As you can see from scripture that the anti-christ and the false prohet are two different people who work together to deceive the world. According to the catholic churches pope prophecies, the last pope will be the false prophet. I believe that is true but I’m not dogmatic about it yet.The bible does not tell us much about the false prophet except he calls fire down out of heaven. This is an act to make people think the anti-christ is God! God is the only one that has ever brought fire out of heaven in the old testament upon the sacrifices, and satan will do it to deceive people that he through the anti-christ is God. The false prophet will be used to do it though!

    Rev.13:11 And I beheld another BEAST(false prohet) coming up out of the earth; and HE had TWO HORNS like a LAMB, and HE(false prophet) spoke like a DRAGON.

    (12) And HE(false prohet ) exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST (anti-christ) before HIM(false prophet), and causeth the earth and them which dwell therin to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST(anti-christ) whose deadly WOUND was HEALED.

    (13) And HE(false prophet) doeth GREAT WONDERS, so that HE maketh FIRE COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN ON THE EARTH in the SIGHT OF MEN!

    (14) And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the EARTH by the MEANS OF THOSE MIRACLES which HE(false prophet) had POWER TO DO in the SIGHT OF THE BEAST; saying to them that dwell on the EARTH, that they should make an IMAGE TO THE BEAST, which had the WOUND BY THE SWORD, and DID LIVE.

    (15) And HE(false prophet) had POWER to give LIFE unto the IMAGE OF THE BEAST, that the IMAGE OF THE BEAST should both SPEAK, and cause that as many as would not WORSHIP the IMAGE OF THE BEAST should be KILLED!

    (16) And HE causeth all both SMALL and GREAT, RICH, and POOR, FREE and BOND, to RECEIVE A MARK, IN THIER RIGHT HAND, or IN THEIR FOREHEADS:

    (17) And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the MARK, or the NAME OF THE BEAST, or the NUMBER OF HIS NAME.

    (18) Here is WISDOM. Let him that has UNDERSTANDING count the NUMBER OF THE BEAST: for it is the NUMBER OF A MAN; and HIS NUMBER is SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX!

    I hope all these scriptures helped clear up a few things about the false prophet and the anti-christ. The apostate Pope is suppose to be the false prophet according to the pope who had the visions of all the popes to come until the end of the age. Shalom!

  96. michael says:

    Why do you need words on a page from any sacred book to tell you to love one another, anti-christ or not. Is anti-christ your enemy? You conveniently ignore how Jesus told you to act toward your enemy. Why?

  97. SEE WHATM IT SAY’S IN JOHN 21:25 ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE WOULD CONTAIN!

    ALSO THERE WAS OTHER BOOKS SHOULD OF BEEN PUT IN THE BIBLE.

    AS THE BOOK OF THOMAS: AS HE STATED WE DO NOT NEED TO WORSHIP IN HOUSES BUILT WITH WOOD AND STONE!

    BUT IN THE 3RD CENTURY THE CATHOLIC RELIGION HAD THIS BOOK BANNED FOR HERESY!

    BUT ALL THE WORK SATAN TRIED TO DO BY BANNING BOOKS FROM THE BIBLE, THE MESSAGE FROM GOD STILL GOT TO US! SO SATAN LOST AGAIN. IN THE BIBLE WHEN IT WAS CREATED THERE WAS NO VERSES, IT READ LIKE A BOOK, WHICH WAS 66 BOOKS.
    ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT THE MARK OF MAN IS 6, SO GO FIGURE!

    • Michael says:

      What books do we need, sacred or not, to tel us to love one another?

      If most people will be lost, how can you possibly say that’s not a victory for Satan?

      That’s like saying Cardinals 10, Cubs 1 = Cubs win!!

      It’s Babylon and Babylon means “confusion by mixing”

      Mixing what? Telling me 2+2 = 4 and 5

      Gospel means “Good news” so let’s “Rise and measure” like Revelation 11 tells us to.

      “Great news everyone!! Most people will be lost and or suffer alive in hell for eternity!! Run, tell everyone around the world this wonderful news!!”

      Christian doctrine “Most will be lost” = Zero faith in the power of God

      6 days = 144 hours
      6000 days = 144,000 hours
      Wake up, do the math = “Rise and measure”

  98. I do believe we are in the end times, however as I research this story, I am left wondering if anyone researches their stories anymore. If this Malachy was called to the Vatican by Pope Innocent II and wrote a book that was published in 1595 that would mean the transcript sat around for 452 years, as Pope Innocent II held the Papal seat from 1130-1143 in the 12th century not the 15th century. It is also thought that Nostradamus may have written the manuscript and pushed the credited to Saint Malachy so the purported seer would not be blamed for the destruction of the papacy. I revel in the in the thought of our Lord and Savior returning in our life time, I am ready, but this seems too easy. However, if an African Pope is appointed then he can raise up the Kenyan.

  99. DEBRA: LOOK AT OUTSIDE HISTORY: AS TO USE AS REFERENCE TO GOD’S WORD. THE LADY OF THE FATIMA: SISTER LUCY: STATED SHE SAW A VISION ( IF IT CAME FROM GOD OR SATAN), SHE NAMED THE LAST POPE IN THE BOOK OF THE 3RD SECRET AND 1ST THIS BOOK WAS REVEALED ONLY TO THE POPE’S, AND POPE JOHN PAUL ALLOWED IT TO BE REVEALED IN 2005 THAT STATED ACCORDING TO THE PROPHECY THE LAST POPE WOULD BE NAMED PETER THE ROMAN” AND IT GOES ON TO SAY, THAT POPE BENEDICT WOULD STEP DOWN AND BE HUNTED AND KILLED IN THE LAST DAYS. AND THEIR WOULD BE A WAR THAT RUSSIA WOULD ATTACK ISREAL ( MAGOG WAR). THE NICENE CREED TELL THAT ALL RELIGIONS WILL FORMED INTO ONE UNIVERSAL RELIGION IN THE LAST DAYS THE 3RD BOOK THAT PREDICTED A GREAT APOSTASY OF THE CHURCH IN THE LAST DAYS OF A GREAT HERESY BY OUR LADY OF GOOD SUCCESS , AS ONE WORLD CHURCH AND IT SPOKE OF ALL THIS HAPPENING IN 2013 FROM THE “TRIUMPH OF THE IMMACULATE HEART”. SEE REFERENCE TO: MALACHI MARTIN PROPHECY!

  100. LET’S ALL REMEMBER WHO WE ARE, ” WE ARE FORGIVING CHRISTIANS” WHAT NEW YORK AND OTHERS DID TO US IN THEIR BITTERNESS, WE SHOULD ALLOW JESUS TO CONTROL HIM, IN ANOTHER WORDS, GIVE HIM ENOUGH ROPE HE’LL HANG HIMSELF! I REALLY ENJOYED HIS INSULTS AND BEING WARNED BY HIM, AS JESUS SAID, WHAT HAPPENS TO US HERE, WE WILL RECIEVE REWARDS IN HEAVEN FOR THESE INSULTS!

  101. Squiggles says:

    It seems very strange that this “Lyn” person came in, and in ONE DAY basically took the site over and got NY banned…

    Anyone else see this as odd?

  102. GRACE. HAVE SOME LAUGHTER IN YOUR LIFE, LYN WAS TRYING TO BE FUNNY! I BET JESUS CAN ALSO JOKE WITH US?

  103. SQUIGGLES: LYN DID NOT GET NEW YORK BANNED, THAT CAME FROM THE BITTERNESS FROM DEBRA. GOD BANNED HIM FROM NTEB WEB SITE, IF YOU GIVE SOMEONE ENOUGH ROPE HE’LL HANG HIMSELF!

    • Michael says:

      Sounds like you are getting off on someone’s ignorance. You lead a church? Kind of a sick, unloving thing coming from a pastor….Oh that’s right, Isaiah did tell us that at some point in history, pastors would call evil good and good evil.

      What kind of God do you worship? I guarantee it’s not the God of 1 Corinthians 13. Christianity is nothing more than a noisy, irritating bell at this point in history. Paul is telling us that if we do not have love then we should immediately shut our mouths.

  104. JOHNNY: PRAISED GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEBRA WILL BE LEFT BEHIND JESUS DID NOT DIE IN VAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  105. I LIVE for a good fight!
    Anyway, I came here to say HI and see that there is so much dissension among you.

    We have a govt that wants to possibly start murdering its citizens, dont you think it is time to GATHER instead of all this dumb argument over Hal Lindsay who is not even to defend himself.

    One thing about Jews and Christians; They are the only army in the world that kill their own off.

    Muslims (who are sick in the head with Islam) unite better than people that are supposed to be GODS.

  106. In The Book of Revelation 17: 7-11 the angel explains;

    17:7 But 19 the angel said to me, “Why are you astounded? I will interpret 20 for you the mystery of the woman and of the beast with the seven heads and ten horns that carries her.
    17:8 The beast you saw was, and is not, but is about to come up from the abyss 21 and then go to destruction. The 22 inhabitants of the earth – all those whose names have not been written in the book of life since the foundation of the world – will be astounded when they see that 23 the beast was, and is not, but is to come.
    17:9 (This requires 24 a mind that has wisdom.) The seven heads are seven mountains 25 the woman sits on. They are also seven kings:
    17:10 five have fallen; one is, 26 and the other has not yet come, but whenever he does come, he must remain for only a brief time.
    17:11 The 27 beast that was, and is not, is himself an eighth king and yet is one of the seven, and is going to destruction.

    19 tn Here καί (kai) has been translated as “but” to indicate the contrast present in this context.

    20 tn Grk “I will tell you,” but since what follows is the angel’s interpretation of the vision, “interpret for you” is the preferred translation here.

    21 tn On this term BDAG 2 s.v. ἄβυσσος 2 states, “netherworld, abyss, esp. the abode of the dead Ro 10:7 (Ps 106:26) and of demons Lk 8:31; dungeon where the devil is kept Rv 20:3; abode of the θηρίον, the Antichrist 11:7; 17:8; of ᾿Αβαδδών (q.v.), the angel of the underworld 9:11…φρέαρ τῆς ἀ. 9:1f; capable of being sealed 9:1; 20:1, 3.”

    22 tn Here καί (kai) has not been translated because of differences between Greek and English style.

    23 tn Some translations take the ὅτι (Joti) here as causal: “because he was, and is not, but is to come” (so NIV, NRSV), but it is much more likely that the subject of the ὅτι clause has been assimilated into the main clause: “when they see the beast, that he was…” = “when they see that the beast was” (so BDAG 732 s.v. ὅτι 1.f, where Rev 17:8 is listed).

    24 tn Grk “Here is the mind that has wisdom.”

    25 tn It is important to note that the height of “mountains” versus “hills” or other topographical terms is somewhat relative. In terms of Palestinian topography, Mount Tabor (traditionally regarded as the mount of transfiguration) is some 1,800 ft (550 m) above sea level, while the Mount of Olives is only some 100 ft (30 m) higher than Jerusalem.

    26 tn That is, one currently reigns.

  107. MICHAEL: YOU HAVE A BITTERNESS IN YOU, BE KIND TO EACH OTHER, HUMBLE YOURSELF! AS YOU SAID, SHOW LOVE OR SHUT YOUR MOUTH, WHY DO NOT YOU PRACTICE WHAT YOUR PREACHING?

    • Your comment is a perfect example of mis-interpreting words on a page. Here is someone who holds the title of pastor accusing me of being bitter. How could you possibly make this judgement if you aren’t here with me or inside my head when I write. You’ve mis-interpreted the words of the holy books in the same fashion. Proof? You make pure love = to the most violent act you can conceive in your mind. Eternal suffering alive in hell.

      Ya, maybe I am sick and tired of educated pastors trying to convince the world that 2+2 = 4 and 5

      Good news everyone! Most will be lost!

      Simple math blows holes in everything you believe.

      Would you try to educate Jesus about bitterness if he came in and flipped over your $ table?

      You believe God keeps a record of wrongs that others do. Paul says 100% opposite of God in 1 Corinthians 13:5 (CEV)

      “The secret lies with Charlotte”

    • You speak arrogantly as if you need be taught nothing. You should not be teaching people about God.

    • What’s it called when you jump up and down for joy waiting for someone to “hang themselves?”

      How long are you going to continue to double speak?

  108. to everyone:

    I HAVE GOTTEN SEVERAL EMAILS FROM FRIENDS IN ROME, WHICH ARE PRIEST’S.

    THE GREAT INTEREST PERVADES THEIR COMMUNITY OF PROPHECY STUDENTS OF THE PRE-TRIB VIEW!

    IF WE ARE FOLLOWING MALACHY’S PROPHECY AND THE NEW POPE USED THE NAME PETER, THEN THIS PROPHECY OF THE POPES HAS NEVER BEEN WRONG YET!

    IN THIS PROPHECY IS THAT THE DESTRUCTION OF ROME AND THE JUDGEMENT.

    THE CARDINAL TARCISO PIETRO EVASIO HE’S WAS BORN IN ROMANO, ITALY. HE COULD RENDER PETER THE ROMAN. ANOTHER PETER ON THE LIST IS A BLACK AFICAN CARDINAL PETER TURKSON OF GHANA.

    THE CATHOLIC’S BELIEVE THE POPE INHABITS THE ” PETRINE OFFICE” AS A SUCCESSOR OF THE APOSTLE PETER.

    MALACHY’S WAS DECLARING THAT THE REIGN OF THE POPE IDENTIFIED AS ” PETRUS ROMANUS” WOULD CULMINATE WITH THE END OF THE WORLD AND THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST.

    ON ANOTHER NOTE: THE ROYAL ACADEMY OF ENGREERING SAID, THEIR IS A POSSIBLE SUPER SOLAR STORM COMING TO EARTH. “THERE GOES OUR INTERNET SERVICES?”

  109. MICHAEL:
    IN THE 1ST PLACE JESUS WOULD NOT FLIP THE TABLE OVER, HE HAS NO SENSE THAN LOOSING HIS ANGER AT ME!

    ALL I WAS SAYING HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONCERN FOR OTHERS!

    IF YOU FEEL I’M ATTACKING YOU, I’M SORRY FOR THAT!

    WE NEED TO SHOW LOVE FOR EACH OTHERS FEELINGS!

    THAN FLIPPING OVER THE TABLE TO MAKE A POINT!

    ANGER DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING!

  110. MICHAEL.
    in matthew 24:12 states people love will grow colder. so we as saints need to try harder to be more friendier and more loving toward each other!

  111. MICHAEL:

    YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW TO RESPECT OTHERS

    I’M A LEARNING STUDENT OF THE BIBLE FOR THE LAST 43 YEARS

    I’M HAPPY TO LISTEN TO OTHERS MORE EXPERIENCE IN GOD’S WORD, IF WE ALL NEW THE SAME KNOWLEDGE OF THE BIBLE, THEN IT WOULD BE BORING TO DISCUSS IT.

    • You mean respect as in, accuse someone of being bitter when it’s not true?

      You talking in circles pastor

      Babylon means “Confusion by mixing” = Saying up when you really mean down

  112. Sparrow says:

    Whew! I’m exhausted! Going somewhere else!

  113. Why would you need to “rightly divide the word” if it’s all true?

    “Then shall two be in the field…”

  114. MICHAEL YOU LOVE TWISTING WORDS, YOUR DRIVING OTHERS AWAY FROM THIS WEB SITE, IF THAT’S YOUR OBJECTIVE ENJOY YOURSELF!
    AT LEAST YOU SHOW THAT YOU DON’T HAVE FORGIVENESS IN YOUR HEART AS I SAID I WAS SORRY!

  115. MICHAEL I ASK YOU PLEASE LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE

  116. MICHAEL YOUR TRYING TO CAUSE DIVISION IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH EACH OTHER, AGAIN I ASKED YOU PLEASE STOP INSULTING PEOPLE

  117. Michael says:

    Now you accuse me of being unforgiving and trying to cause division. Words on a page cause you to flip out and say crazy things to people you don’t know? You’re a pastor? Are you above instruction? You tell people of destruction ahead in the same breath call it “good news,” someone has to stand up to the beast don’t you think? Maybe I was appointed by God to wake you up to your continual double speak.

  118. Debra says:

    Michael ignore the guy named pastor! He’s the one who judges and does not walk in love because he hates anyone who disagrees with him. It’s no use talking with him because he will take anything you say and twist it! He did the same thing to New york when he tried to post scriptures to help people understand the truth. Don’t waste your time or worry about what he thinks or says. You’re fine Mike and you have the right to free speech! Peace to you and try not to let him provoke you to anger. Peace brother and God Bless!

  119. MICHAEL GIVE UP!

    YOU CAN NOT MAKE ME UPSET, I LOVE YOUR INSULTS!

    CONDEMN ME ALL YOU WANT!

  120. DEBRA: THAT FREE SPEECH SOON WILL BE OVER AND IT WILL COST YOU!
    DON’T BELIEVE, ASKED NTEB WEB SITE?

  121. DEBRA AND MICHAEL YOU BOTH HAS PROVEN THE SCRIPTURES IN MATTHEW 24: 12 MOST PEOPLE’S LOVE WILL GROW COLD.

    YOU GUYS ARE PROVING THAT!

  122. IT HAS BEEN SAID, THE ROAD TO HEAVEN ITS A SMALL PATHWAY AND THE ROAD TO HELL IS A SUPERHIGHWAY, ENJOY YOUR TRIP?
    TO DEBRE AND MICHAEL!

    THEIR SO MANY PEOPLE ON THAT SUPER HIGHWAY!

  123. MSb says:

    Well, looks like you have all fallen for it.
    The second part of this is what’s relevant, but you need to read both Part 1 and Part 2 so it makes sense.
    Part 1: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005
    Part 2:
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52923
    This sowing of dissent, it’s all planned.
    Read, and you will be sadder but wiser.

  124. Debra says:

    Jewish, Liked your post! So true!

  125. hi says:

    lol people still think religion is relevant.

    we will witness the rise if you people are that stupid, which I’m betting you are!

  126. HI:

    people are still living or their mind exist in this world. I would rather set my mind on our massions in Heaven!

  127. Guest says:

    I heard on the radio that the Antichrist isn’t going to like women. Does that mean he will not have a partner or be married. If so then that rules out Obama

    • @Guest:
      “He will show NO REGARD for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of WOMEN, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.” (Dan 11:37)

      The Antichrist will probably be a Muslim because Islam enslaves and persecutes women (“NO regard for…the desire of WOMEN”). Obummer is a Muslim and the leader of the most powerful country in the history of the world (the BEAST of Revelation 13?)

      If you want to view a list of well-done videos on the subject, click this link HERE (Copy and paste the link between the quotes into your web browser): “http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBFB74EC159EBF19A&feature=plcp”

      MARANATHA!

  128. WEATHERMAN1951:
    I HEARD COMMENTS IN THE PASS ABOUT WHO THE ANTICHRIST WOULD BE OR ACR LIKE, SOME SAY HE’LL BE GAY, SOME SAY HE GOING TO BE GOOD LOOKING, SOME SAY HE’LL BE 1/2 JEWISH, AT LEAST I’M SURE OF ONE THING HE’S GOING TO DECIEVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!

    • HUNDREDS of millions of people have probably been deceived already. They just won’t know that he’s “THE-ONE” ;) until after the Pre-Trib Rapture of the Church.
      MARANATHA!

  129. WEATHERMAN 1951:
    MARCH2001 IS MAD AT ME AS HE THINK I’M THE BOSS OF THE WEB SITE AND I HAD NEW YORK BANNED FROM THIS WEB SITE, AS NY WAS SO STUBBORN IN HIS WAYS ABOUT POST-TRIBULATION, HE SAID THIS WEB SITE IS NO FUN ANYMORE

    • To whom it may concern: ‘New York’ broke the Host’s rules one too many times and got himself hoisted on his own petard. He and his buddies have no one to blame but themselves. Be Nice…or Be Banned…simple as that.
      MARANATHA!

      • Tracy says:

        Should see what he said about me on his own site.
        I hate to say it but he lies.
        God Bless All

        • Yeah…BIG TIME! AND, I called him on it close to the top of this thread:
          Face it, NY, you LIED about what a Brother in Christ, Hal Lindsey, said! Quoting you with emphasis:
          “Not only did he say Christ WOULD (a LIE) return in 1988 but he also PREDICTED (another LIE) the last seven years to be between 1981-1988.”

          And THEN, you impugn Hal Lindsey’s motives with this vicious accusation:
          “Just stating the facts. I wouldn’t put to(sic) much stock in anyone who sells 100 million copies of anything and makes at least $10 a copy which is a billion dollars on one book then goes on to write more after making false predictions.”

          Literally MILLIONS of saved people will be eternally grateful to Hal Lindsey for writing his books…including ME, because I was born-again back in 1972 after reading his first book, ‘The Late Great Planet Earth!’ Have YOU made that kind of impact for the Lord’s salvation message?

          As outlined in my first reply to your screed about Hal Lindsey: NEVER did he EVER say he was a prophet or speaking prophetically! Just like the rest of us, he was PERSONALLY exercising his freedom in Christ to give his exegesis of Scriptural prophecy.

          Are you SURE you are a Christian, NY, because arrogance and spite fairly oozes from your posts…
          Over and OUT!

          Can’t say that I’ll miss ‘em…

          • Tracy says:

            I didn’t dislike New York, but he seemed to like turmoil.
            I honestly didn’t pick up on a kindred spirit from him.
            He is still checking out this website to see what everyone is talking about. He certainly didn’t have any kind words for us. Again, that shows you just how he thinks.
            God Bless All

          • Michael says:

            To say people were saved after 31 A.D. is no different than asking someone for money after you give them a gift. Or asking them to wash your dishes after you give them a present.

            Advanced simple math should be a requirement for anyone who wishes to teach others about the character of God.

            Paul with one short sentence about who God is destroys everything your church taught you.

            1 Corinthians 13:5 “Love keeps no record of wrongs that others do.” 100% opposite of what we’ve all been taught. Does what Paul said reflect what you believe?

            The problem lies with the fact that we think it’s impossible that our teachers are false prophets. Even though Jesus clearly warned us, it’s always, “someone else’s teacher.” Read 13:5 (Contemporary English version) then do the math.

  130. WEATHERMAN1951: WHAT IS NEW YORK SAYING BEHIND MY BACK, IT MUST BE INTERESTING GOSSIP?

    NY IS FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT FOR SATAN! I HATE TO BE IN THE TRIBULATION NY SURE WOULD TURN US INTO SATAN POLICE TO HAVE US KILLED!

    • Michael says:

      I believe God will heal all mankind, even Satan himself. What do you believe?

      • “Now when the thousand years have expired (the Millennium), SATAN will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The DEVIL (SATAN), who deceived them, was CAST INTO the LAKE of FIRE and brimstone where the BEAST (the ANTICHRIST) and the false prophet ARE. And they will be TORMENTED day and night *FOREVER and EVER.*

        Then I saw a great white throne and Him (God) who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the DEAD (NON-believers) were JUDGED according to their WORKS, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the SECOND death. And anyone NOT FOUND written in the Book of Life was CAST INTO the LAKE of FIRE.” (Rev 20:7-15)

        “BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you WILL be SAVED.” (Acts 16:31) It’s as SIMPLE as that…BELIEVE…or you’re toast. :/

        Over and OUT…

  131. TRACY: CAN YOU GIVE ME NY WEB SITE EMAIL ADDRESS?

  132. WEATHERMAN1951:

    NTEB SAID THEY DID NOT BANNED NEW YORK.

    SO ITS ANOTHER LIE FROM HIM TO GET OTHERS TO CONDEMN US!

  133. Debra says:

    Stop being so hateful and mean Steve! New York is not even on here anymore and cannot defend himself! That comment is not from the spirit of Christ. Stop now and ask forgiveness for your miss guided judgments! Only God knows who is of satan or not and anyone who has ever read New Yorks comments knows he loves the Lord with all his heart and posts God’s word faithfully. Where is the love? All you ever post are slanders and lies about people who disagree with your theology anymore! Please stop putting people down and be the kind of christian your suppose to be! Stick to commenting on the subject at hand. Use scripture if you like but knock off the slander! I’m sure New York has more important things to do than post slanders about you on other posts! He’s a better Christian than that! Praying for you!

  134. MICHAEL:
    AS YOUR COMMENT STATED, WHY DO NOT TO TRY THAT BY KILLING SOMEONE JUST TO PROVE YOUR POINT!
    WHAT A STUPID COMMENT AND USE OF DIRTY LANGUAGE FROM YOU!

  135. DEBRA: I HAVE MY RIGHT TO POST MY BELIEFS AND OPINIONS, AT LEAST UNTIL OBAMA TAKES AWAY OUR FREEDOM OF RIGHTS!
    AS FOR MY BELIEF THERE WILL BE A PRE. TRIBULATION AND THIS WEB SITE NTEB BELIEVE THIS TOO! AS I SAID, YOU HAVE YOUR RIGHTS TO VOICE YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS WEB SITE!
    WHEN PEOPLE ARE INSULTING YOU WITH THREATS THAT ” YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED” WOULD THAT BE TAKEN AS FRIENDLY ADVISE. WOULD JESUS TREAT ANOTHER SO RUDELY TO ANOTHER PERSON. SO IT MUST COME FROM SATAN?

    I ONLY VOICE MY COMMENTS AS THE TRUTH FROM SCRIPTURE. IF YOU BELIEVE I’M SLANDERING AND LIES TO YOU OR ANY ONE ELSE, THAT’S YOUR RIGHT TO SAY THAT TO ME. AND I DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS, I LET THEIR ACTIONS JUDGE THEMSELVES!
    NOW YOUR THREATING ME TO KNOT OFF THE SLANDER!
    I HOPE YOU FIND THE TRUTH ONE OF THESE DAYS, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE?

  136. MICHAEL:

    YOU SAID, I BELIEVE GOD WILL HEAL ALL MANKIND, EVEN SATAN HIMSELF!
    THIS IS SO FOR SURE, YOUR NOT GETTING ANY OF THIS OUT OF SCRIPTURES IN GOD’S WORD!

    SATAN IS BOUND FOR THE LAKE OF FIRE FOR TORMENT FOREVER AND EVER!

    SATAN CAUSED MANKIND TO FALL WITH ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN, ITS A CURSE FOR ALL MANKIND AND YOU THINK GOD WOULD LET SATAN INTO HEAVEN WITH ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS?

    AND SATAN WOULD NEVER TURN BACK AS HE WAS BEFORE ADAM AND EVE WAS CREATED!

    THIS PROVES AS SATAN TRYS TO DECIEVE ALL MANKIND YOUR TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING.

    IF YOU WERE EVEN A GOOD PERSON IN LIFE, YOU WOULD NOT BE USING THAT DIRTY LANGUAGE IN YOUR COMMENTS IN YOUR BLOGS!

    WHEN A PERSON ACCEPTS JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOR, THESE PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR OLD LIVES AND START ACTING DIFFERENTLY TRYING TO WATCH THEIR LANGUAGE, TO OFFEND OTHERS!

    • Michael says:

      Words on a page do not dictate what level of faith I have…..Words on a page told you that most people will be lost and you accept it…The creator isn’t your God, words on a page are your god.

    • Michael says:

      Maybe how you respond to me is being observed. Do you give your enemies water when they are thirsty, or do you rail on them and declare them crazy and lost?

    • Michael says:

      We are being observed at all times pastor. Are you doing the math

    • Michael says:

      You speak as if God isn’t watching you….I’m confident God loves me no matter what. You are not confident God loves me no matter what. You’re the one claiming you have faith. You’re the one openly telling people 2+2=5

  137. MICHAEL:

    I BET WHEN YOU ARE DOING YOUR MATH!

    WHEN YOU ADD 2+2=5?

  138. MICHAEL:
    WHEN YOU ATTENDED GRADE SCHOOL, DID YOU FAIL MATH?

  139. MICHAEL:
    YOU ARE COMPLETELY CORRECT!
    GOD IS WATCHING BOTH OF US, BUT FOR YOU, GOD WILL DEAL WITH YOU AT JUDGEMENT DAY!
    I DO NOT INSTRUCT YOU, IF YOUR LOST, YOU NEED TO GET DIRECTIONS FROM GOD. BY READING GOD’S SCRIPTURES.
    YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR LIFE OVER TO GOD AND ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR!
    I DO NOT NEED TO DO ANY MATH, AS GOD KEEPS THE ACCOUNTS FOR ME, BUT HE HAS FORGIVEN MY PAST AND PRESENT, AS I REPENT MY SINS TO HIM EACH DAY!
    YES, GOD LOVES EVERYONE, BUT IF YOU DO NOT PICK UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW HIM COMPLETELY AND JUDGEMENT DAY COMES FOR YOU, HE WILL BE CAST YOU INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE, BUT HE’LL STILL LOVE YOU!

  140. MICHAEL I HAVE 2 CHILDREN, ONE IS SAVED BY JESUS SALVATION AND THE OTHER LOVES HER WORLDLY DESIRES.

    I DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY IF I HAD TO TORTURE THEM.

    WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF CHOICE!

    IF ONE OF MY CHILDREN CONTINUES HER WAY OF HER DESIRES TO SERVED THIS WORLD AND SATAN, THEN ITS HER CHOICE. I CAN NOT FORCE HER TO TAKE SALVATION.

    ITS THE SAME WITH A HORSE, I CAN BRING HIM TO THE WATER, BUT I CAN NOT FORCE THE HORSE TO DRINK THE WATER!

    YES, MY HEART WOULD BE BROKEN INTO PIECES, IF MY DAUGHTER ENDS UP IN HELL, BUT AGAIN ITS HER CHOICE!

    WHEN I RECIEVE MY NEW BODY GOD WILL TAKE AWAY ALL PAST PAIN. IN HEAVEN WE WILL NOT BE UNHAPPY ANYMORE, SO THE THOUGHT OF MY DAUGHTER GOING TO HELL, WILL NOT BOTHER ME ANYMORE!

    SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MY CHILD BEING TORTURED?

  141. mmichael says:

    Why not torture your daughter now? Why would evil men throw you in prison if you do? If a judge threw your daughter in prison for 100 years because she stole a candy bar, would you consider him a just ruler. “You didn’t accept my son, therefore you must suffer for eternity.”

    Ridiculous doesnt begin to describe this false idol you worship. In Daniel, who was protecting the people you cast in the fiery furnace?

    • Tracy says:

      MMichael,
      A very good Christian website that will help you understand several of your questions is located at www. gotquestions.org
      God Bless

  142. MMICHAEL.

    WHERE DOES MICHAEL COME UP WITH THESE RIDICULOUS QUESTIONS?

    WOULD I TORTUE MY CHILD?

    MAYBE ITS HIS ANSWER TO CAUSE DIVISION IN OUR CHRISTIAN LIVES?

  143. TRACY. THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT NEW YORK

  144. Levi says:

    Michael,

    Why do you want to be in a place where you grieve yourself by reading the praise of Him who you hate? For sure, you will get all your answers. He did not reject you; but He came to you instead and you rejected Him. You are already condemned.

    John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (caps mine)

    This is not only with you but with everyone who did not believe in Him. However, He comes to save them and if they deny Him then they will be there where they wanted to be or chose to be rather. Why complain?

    Remember; He is Life and you reject and separate yourself from this Life then you have nothing but death.

    • Michael says:

      So, “Oh death where is thy sting, oh grave where is thy victory,” should instead read, “Oh death thy sting is everywhere, oh grave thy victory is great?”

      Double speak = The above scripture and what you believe cannot both be true. According to your faithless religion, mass death and destruction comes.

      The doctrine of “Most will be lost” = Zero faith in the power of Christ and 100% faith in words on a page. Therefore we can safely conclude by your own words that you do not worship the God who created the heavens and the earth but rather, you worship words on a page.

      We were all fooled by these powerful words into calling evil good and good evil. The following scripture from the Contemporary English Version not only destroys your false image of God with one small stone, it shuts every mouth. It instantly judges who we are in our hearts. 1 Corinthians 13:5 (CEV) Paul is speaking about who God is when when he drops this bomb on us, “Love….keeps no record of wrongs that others do.”

      If you argue “context” and find something that contradicts this, then you now know what, “Then shall two be in the field” means. The true and false image of God found in the same book causing confusion by mixing them together. The word “Babylon” means “confusion by mixing.”

      Ezekiel 4 even warned us dung was added to the bread. Quit feeding people dung and expecting them to love it like it’s mashed potatoes and gravy.

  145. Levi says:

    Michael:

    You did not even understand what that Scripture really meant. Your righteousness cannot save you. No matter what, man’s righteousness is nothing before a Righteous God. Every man is fallen and doomed to hell for eternity. Now when the Son of God came and shed the blood to redeem men from this death, then whosoever believes in His death and His resurrection will say “O death where is thy sting and O grave where is thy victory”.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    1 Corinthians 13:5 (Love) Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; (Parenthesis mine)

    O man, when you condemn the One gave His life for you then what other sacrifice would be there for you for you to be redeemed? You are full of pride and hatred and foolishness has taken its root in you. Is this not what Lucifer did before the throne of God?

    May be you have been fooled but we are not. The cross of Christ is foolishness unto them that perish but unto us who are saved, it is power.

    Yes, I have the same message for you. Quit being dung yourself then you will be able to distinguish between good and evil.

    The devil hates the mention of the death of Christ because he lost the battle and was put to shame and no wonder you hate Him.

    • Michael says:

      Most will be lost = power? Most will be lost = Victory in Jesus? LOL!

      “Great news everyone!! Most will be lost!!” [is the same as] Up = Down

      Babylon = Confusion

      The words Jesus spoke were not about himself.

      In John 14:10 Jesus clearly tells you that the words he spoke were about the father and not himself. Will you explain this away like everything else.

      “Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works”

  146. Everyone, here we go again! 1st it was I and NEW YORK.
    Now its LEVI and MICHAEL argueing over Scripture’s, maybe this one will turn verbally into a blood bath?
    LEVI: please just give up on Michael allow him to believe his way,
    its not worth the anxiety to discussed this issue with him.

    Remember, what Paul said concerning the ones that would not listen to the truth, he said shake the dust off of your sandals and move on to the next person!

    You can spend all week tesifing to Michael and he’ll continue to disagree with you, so your wasting your time, just drop it and move on to the next person!

    • Michael says:

      “Great news everyone!! Most will be lost and or suffer alive in hell for eternity!! Run, tell everyone you know this wonderful news!! There’s victory in Jesus…..!!”

      I watched Sesame Street growing up and there is definitely “one of these things….doesn’t belong here.”

      Requirement #1 = Honesty
      Requirement #2 = You must be smarter than words on a page.

  147. EVERYONE:
    I’m learning more about myself, in these discussions on this web site!

  148. Craig says:

    Wow I came back to this thread and read through it all.
    We are living in perilous times. God is separating the sheep from the goats. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. Interesting thread.
    Take care.

  149. Ron Murphy says:

    Hang in there New York, they said the same things about Jesus. Shine as the stars, my brother. People, the Catholic church is a decoy of satan to throw light on, while the real beast from the old Syrian kingdom moves in to claim his seat. If everyone believes in the catholic church as being the beast, then how could anyone be deceived about it, even the elect if it were possible. Most are waiting on the rapture, but all the virgins waited on the bridegroom and the foolish never did get to go in, as the door was shut.The wise got prepared for the wait and endured it.

  150. Debra says:

    I liked your post Ron! Pray, watch, and wait!
    God bless you all!!!

  151. James T says:

    I must say I’ve purley enjoyed all discussions here.Some have been enlightening,others not so much. I observe that due to interpetation even believers are at odds with one another.
    My conclusion to it all is the statement concerning no perfect word is given with reason as noted.That and this: “there is none rightious, no not one” Yet in love we are to extoll one another as onto Christ the author and finisher of our faith.

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