The Astonishing Rise Of Satanism In Obama’s America

We are seeing an unprecedented rise in demonic symbols and signs because the Wicked One is about to take the stage. Everywhere you look, there he is. The All-Seeing...
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The ‘radical change’ Obama prepared for the country is taking hold

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” John 8:44

Barack Obama has been the “whatever goes” president. He rules with no authority, encourages through executive orders all manner of gender perversion and sexual confusion, and is actively working against the stated best interests of the United States of America. In this environment, spiritual darkness has found a friend and boon companion to step out of the shadows with. Everywhere you turn in Obama’s America, you see the rising tide of darkness and the light growing dimmer and dimmer.

Fox to produce show glorifying Lucifer

Fox has given a put pilot commitment to Lucifer, based on the property from DC Comics’ Vertigo imprint, EW has confirmed. The one-hour drama stars—you guessed it—Lucifer, who resigns his throne and abandons his kingdom for the gorgeous and shimmering insanity of Los Angeles, where he opens an exclusive piano bar called Lux.

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FROM THE UPCOMING FOX NEW SHOW ‘LUCIFER’

The Satanic Temple to Distribute Educational Religious Materials in Florida Public Schools

In response to a recent School Board decision in Orange County, Florida that allows for the dissemination of religious materials in public schools, The Satanic Temple has announced they will follow suit by providing Satanic materials to students during the new school year. Among the materials to be distributed are pamphlets related to the Temple’s tenets, philosophy and practice of Satanism, as well as information about the legal right to practice Satanism in school.

Sold out Satanic black mass to debut September 19th

The Satanist group that will stage a controversial “black mass” at an Oklahoma City civic center has said that all 88 tickets for its Sept. 21 event are sold out. The co-founder of the group revealed that the ritual will go ahead despite strong Christian protests and will feature a satanic exorcism, but will be “toned down” to comply with state health laws.

Why Is The Illuminati All-Seeing Eye Of Horus Suddenly Everywhere You Turn?

The answer is surprisingly simple, so simple in fact that it might escape your grasp. We are in the last days, waiting for the return of Jesus Christ to come and get His Church before the start of the Tribulation as he has promised to do. The blessed hope. The Age of Grace, the longest dispensation in the bible, is nearly over.

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Since the 1950’s, Walk Disney has been the parents entertainment of choice for “wholesome” family fun. But in 2014, movies with the symbols of Baphomet and the Satanic underworld is what is being feed into our children’s brains.

We are seeing an unprecedented rise in demonic symbols and signs because the Wicked One is about to take the stage. Everywhere you look, there he is. The All-Seeing Eye Of Horus staring back at you from pop soda cans, sporting equipment, movies, television, radio, clothing. Even on the very dollar bill in your pocket. Our money says “In God We Trust”, and you know that’s not true. It’s not even close to true. The things that America truly trusts in –  it’s power, might and wealth – are the very things that the bible says is a witness against us in these end times:

“Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.” James 5:3

America no longer has God’s blessing. What we have is the leftover vapor trail of God’s blessing on America from previous generations, but we are too stupefied to be able to discern the difference. We’ve become a nation of braying goats eating garbage where there used to be sheep following a Shepard, and drinking from pools of living waters. But no longer.

NTEB is run by end times author and editor-in-chief Geoffrey Grider. Geoffrey runs a successful web design company, and is a full-time minister of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. In addition to running NOW THE END BEGINS, he has a dynamic street preaching outreach and tract ministry team in Saint Augustine, FL.
  • Bro. Nick

    Why is there any surprise? Pres. Obama is at the very least a supporter of – or more probably an actual follower of the satanic false god ‘Allah’ and his lying prophet Mohammed – and it must be realized that ‘full blown’ Satanism and ‘fundamental’ Mohammedanism are from the same source!
    “The word of the LORD”, “the truth” always says it clearly and to the point:

    (43) Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
    (44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    “The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.”
    (Ps 12:8 [KJV])

  • DB

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    To be fair… Obama didn’t start this mess…
    but it has gotten much worse under his rule.

    Self-destruction of the USA began in earnest
    almost 70 years ago… with the man who dropped
    the A-bomb, Truman. And each president since
    Truman… democrats and republicans… have done
    their part to put more nails in the USA’s coffin.

    The USA was created for destruction… first to be
    the destroyer of nations… then to self-destruct.

    From the beginning, the USA was created to be satanic.
    It allows antichrists and other abominations to flourish
    under the banner: “freedom of religion”… a totally
    secular satanic concept not found in the Bible.

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    • Peter

      I am no fan of Satan, that’s for sure, but if we are going to use the Bible as our bedrock, our crucible, it is important that this book is flawless, otherwise our enemies will gather around and laugh at us. It’s not the biblical atrocities and horrors I refer to, or the astonishing bloodshed and mind-numbing, almost psychopathic cruelty, it’s the obvious contradictions and inaccuracies that concern me. If I was a pilot and the information in the instruction manual was at odds with the previous chapter, or later chapters, I wouldn’t leave the ground. Let’s forget the gut-wrenching cruelties and lack of compassion when, for instance, Elisha called on the Lord to sort out some lads who called him “Baldy,” upon which three crazed she-bears tore the lads apart for their political incorrectness — in calling Elisha “Baldy.” Today, you wouldn’t get so much as a “don’t be rude” second look from a passing policeman, let alone a death sentence, for addressing someone in that manner. No, what gets me is that the Bible, our Bible, our Good Book, is littered with errors and contradictions. There are too many to mention here, a host of them I could cite, but I will end with a few examples:

      1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

      2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

      And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham.” (GEN 22:1)

      “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” (JAS 1:13)

      PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

      PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

      How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?

      2KI 8:26 – – 22

      2CH 22:2 – – 42

      We can’t go around shouting about God’s perfect Word when it is clearly inaccurate — at least biblically so. I doubt if the Satanic Bible is much better, although it is something I have never read and upon which I can’t comment.

      Best to you all.

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  • laura

    Sobering.

  • Bro. Nick

    The article stated – ‘We are seeing an unprecedented rise in demonic symbols and signs because the Wicked One is about to take the stage. Everywhere you look, there he is.’ – How many ‘christians’ wear or have designer ‘christian’ ear rings, Bible covers etc … with ‘Peace symbols’ on them.
    ‘The peace symbol (also called the “broken cross,” “crow’s foot,” “witch’s foot,” “Nero Cross,” “sign of the ‘broken Jew,'” and the “symbol of the ‘anti-Christ”’) is actually a cross with the arms broken. It also signifies the “gesture of despair,” and the “death of man.”
    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/peace_sign.htm

    And that is ‘just the tip of the iceburg’ – of how satanic signs and symbols are all around us all the time, on TV – commercials – magazines – clothing fads – etc …

    “The word of God” gives us warnings – how many are looking?

    (7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and

    SIGNS

    and lying wonders,
    (10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    (11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    (12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    (2 Thess 2:7-12 [KJV]) – CAPITALization and emphasis mine – Bro. Nick

    “THE WICKED WALK ON EVERY SIDE,
    when the vilest men are exalted.”
    (Ps 12:8 [KJV]) – CAPITALization and emphasis mine – Bro. Nick
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  • DB

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    This is interesting… I have to post this, I’m posting it here.

    I was on Drudgereport.com earlier and saw the big headline photo of Aretha Franklin.

    Then, just now I was on another forum. Someone had just posted a topic that asked if anyone thought Drudge’s big headline photo of Aretha Franklin was odd.

    Immediately it hit me… fat lady singing !!

    What does Drudge know ?

    Or is God using Drudge as a “useful idiot” ?

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    • SammiD

      Wow, excellent observation DB!!

    • Bro. Nick

      @ Lisa Killworth Turner – If you read the article , there were only 88 seats available – so they did ‘sell out’ – ‘The Satanist group that will stage a controversial “black mass” at an Oklahoma City civic center has said that all 88 tickets for its Sept. 21 event are sold out.’

      I do most sincerely pray that there are none that call themselves ‘christians’ that attend such a wicked and evil event:
      ” I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.”
      (Ps 101:3 [KJV])

  • I can’t believe this article was allowed to go to print due to the exposure of the Fallen One and the late hour spiritually! Thank God there are still some left in positions of significance that will step out of the shadows and print the TRUTH! “Many are called but few are chosen” (Matthew 22:14) Armor of God and knowledge of the Word are our last bastions of hope! Heads up to the Advances in Technology because the stage has been set for the launch of Mark Of The Beast! See you at the Marriage Supper of The Lamb! “Behold I come quickly” (Revelations 3:11)

  • I was noticing recently that on a new overpass near where I live in the Inland Northwest The columns supporting the bridge are obelisks. Did you know that obelisks were used for satanic worship during the ancient Babylonian religion?

    • Bro. Nick

      @ arcticfarmer – It is truly interesting to me – once my eyes were opened so that I became aware – how many obelisks so nearly various places.
      Have you looked at older and more ‘prominent’ cemeteries, City parks, etc… as you drive by them?
      I hadn’t thought to look at bridge columns – thanx.

      • Bro. Nick

        @ arcticfarmer – It is truly interesting to me – once my eyes were opened so that I became aware – how many obelisks in so many and various places there are.

        Yet another OOOPPPPSSSSSS – the first sentence should read. – Bro. Nick

    • Bro. Nick

      @ Christopher Mantei – Sir – WHY do you make such a divisive ‘statement of fact’ about the when-NOT of ‘the Rapture??????
      – WHY do you interject a statement about the Rapture – when it IS NOT the subject of discussion??????
      – WHY – if you are a CHRISTian – do you want to sew discord and contention amongst those that are your Brothers and Sisters in Jesus Christ??????

      (1) The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see.
      (2) O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save!
      (3) Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention.
      (4) Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.
      (Hab 1:1-4 [KJV])

      “Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.”
      (John 9:16 [KJV])

      (1) Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth’s sake.
      (2) Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God?
      (3) But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
      (Ps 115:1-3 [KJV])

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      While I am not a fan of Dr. Tim LeHay, I absolutely do agree with the following quote – ‘I agree with Dr’s. Tim Lahaye, Richard Mayhue, and Wayne Brindle when they state: “The timing of the rapture is not a cardinal doctrine that should divide God’s people, but those who interpret the Bible literally find many strong reasons to believe that the rapture will be pre-tribulational”
      (The Popular Encyclopedia of Bible Prophecy, 289).’

      If you would say – ‘It is my understanding’ – that is fine – but when you state when ‘the Rapture’ will not occur – you are PROPHESYING!

      You PROPHESY that ‘the Rapture’ is NOT Pre-Tribulation – have you ever heard or read about ‘The Shepherd of Hermas (95-150 AD)’?

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      I personally will not question your personal understanding and belief – for the when of ‘the Rapture’ is not an ‘essential doctrine’ that affects Biblical Salvation.
      There are those that I consider CHRISTian Brethren that have different ‘when the Rapture occurs’ personal beliefs/understandings, and I can have a meaningful conversation with them
      – but they do not try to ‘ram their personal beliefs’ down anyone elses’ throats
      – nor do I try to force my personal understanding upon them!

      It is your choice if you do not want to fellowship with me, or others and say that we are lost sinners and going to HELL just because of our personal Biblical understanding – that ‘the Rapture’ is before “the time of Jacob’s trouble”, “the day of the LORD”, the “great tribulation”.

      It would be well if all CHRISTians would think about – and remember – and do unto our Brethren:
      (36) Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
      (37) Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
      (Luke 6:36-37 [KJV])
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      • Brenda Murphy

        Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
        Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
        Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
        Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
        Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

        We warn and do testify that we know the Lord said that immediately after the tribulation of those days…that he was coming.

        Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
        Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
        Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
        Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
        Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
        Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
        Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

        1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    • MeMyselfAndI

      Yes Sir!!! There is only one judgement!

      • MRH

        Actually there are two judgment calls; saints (1), and sinners (2) 🙂

        1) Occurs after first resurrection (believers = saints)

        2Co 5:9-10 KJV – Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

        2) Occurs after second resurrection (unbelievers = sinners)

        Rev 20:11-12 KJV – And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

    • STL

      Mr. Grider: as it says, in Matthew 24, that the love will grow cold, and its happening so much between the ones that call themselves Christians! Some will never listen or believe the Rapture happens before the Tribulation, because of their lack of faith, they will get there wish, they will be left behind in the Tribulation, which is a shame?

    • Brenda Murphy

      We warn and do testify that we know the Lord said that immediately after the tribulation of those days…that he was coming.

      Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
      Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
      Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
      Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
      Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
      Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
      Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

      1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

  • Donna

    I refuse to argue with anyone. Now is the time to get right with the Lord. He is coming.

    • Brenda Murphy

      Was he talking to the ones (Jews) that had Christ killed?

    • MeMyselfAndI

      What?

      Hebrews 8:7
      For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

    • MRH

      “The pre tribulation rapture is not anywhere in scripture”

      @Jaime Peebles: IMHO the whole rapture vs. tribulation thing is but a fantasy fable from all common perspectives; pre, mid, post. One only needs to carefully examine related scripture to see that that’s the case. Anyway, at this time we simply still don’t know the holy score, and end time signs are still appearing, but nothing concrete in matters. Personally I believe that the tribulation will involve a mega revival of the church. Also tribulation will be the final global witness effort before the end comes.

      Does this below not represent tribulation? 😉

      Mat 24:9-14 KJV – Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

      Considering things we are already enduring tribulation effect, what with the flood of wars and natural disasters? False prophets and false Christs everywhere? Division within in the church and families? If this all isn’t tribulations then I’m a monkeys uncle. Of course it’s not the final great tribulation before Christs return, but I call it a prelude tribulation pattern. Then after rapture comes the wrath periods which will be much worse and weird in all points and purposes. Do you not follow my drift?

      • Bro. Nick

        In the language used by “the Lord God Almighty” in “the truth”, the Holy Bible (KJV) – there is a vast difference between
        – “TRIBULATION” – which has and will continue to occur throughout all of ‘the church age’:
        (32) Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.
        (33) These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have TRIBULATION: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
        (John 16:32-33 [KJV]) – CAPITALization mine for emphasis – Bro. Nick

        – AND –

        “GREAT TRIBULATION”
        (21) For then shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
        (22) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
        (Matt 24:21 [KJV]) – CAPITALization mine for emphasis
        Read also Rev 2:22, 7:14 [KJV] – Bro. Nick
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        • MRH

          The problem is that the great tribulation is not yet the end of the world. But the brief great tribulation is the end of mankind’s reign. Following tribulation is Satan’s brief reign, which is ended by Gods wrath. Anyway, scripture has many clues, but requires deep study 😉

    • MeMyselfAndI

      If people would only read their Bibles and stop listening to these off the wall denominations (so called churches).. there is only one true church.. the Church of Jesus Christ.. no other label.. nothing else added.. no building.. and the Bible is the only rule.. Man will steer you in the wrong direction.. trust your Bible, not your pastor.

  • Ross

    Was there any doubt that Satan would be depicted as a blonde-haired white male, between 35 and 45 years of age? If you’re going to demonize someone nowadays, just make sure that he or she is not the following: black, Muslim, a woman, gay or lesbian, transgender, or any other endangered and protected class of people. In other words, one can and should freely demonize white males. No wonder our country is becoming garbage.

    • MRH

      The root problem is perspective. In a sense the whole argument regarding rapture vs. tribulation is silly and a mute point. Obviously the majority of people (believers, unbelievers) will escape both tribulation and wrath, as the majority of same folk will be dead by Christs return (historical aspect)? Therefore the greater percentage in the first resurrection will be the raised believers?

      Those (of all beliefs) still alive at the return depends on many things including age. Being thus said, those lucky (believers) or unlucky (unbelievers) witnesses of the return will be the population present at the time. And since death is always knocking on our door, we can’t even predict which group we will be in, for we could die tomorrow; heart attack, accident, disaster, etc. Or by ISIS crucifixion or beheading {shudder}

      P.S. All in first resurrection will see the end through a safe portal 🙂

      • Brenda Murphy

        Mark, all in the first resurrection will have died martyrs…and those that are alive, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to be with the Lord forever……..to reign with the Lord in the millennial reign on earth, when he sets up his kingdom……’thy kingdom come, thy will be done….on earth as it is in heaven’……

        The second resurrection is after the thousand year reign, when the rest of the dead will be judged……they will be judged according as their works shall be…whether good or bad.

        Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

        Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

        Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
        🙂

        • MRH

          “Mark, all in the first resurrection will have died martyrs”

          Brenda: Not true at all, as a martyr is one whom is slain for their faith, and through persecution. Those whom die of natural causes or global disasters, are not martyrs, but simply victims of fate. You can’t be a martyr through or by your own effort.

          A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, “witness”; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and death for advocating, renouncing, refusing to renounce, and/or refusing to advocate a belief or cause, usually a religious one. Most martyrs are considered holy or are respected by their followers, becoming a symbol of good leadership and heroism.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr

          P.S. Those living believers whom witness the return can’t be martyrs, nor victims of fate, as all believers made alive then 😀

        • MRH

          Brenda: To further clarify things. None whom died in 911 were martyrs, as 911 was a mystery disaster event. Also all whom die in varied natural disasters are not martyrs. Nor are those whom die from accidents or diseases martyrs.

          However all whom die in ISIS varied massacres are martyrs, as all such are persecution events. And doesn’t matter whether atheist or religious, as evidenced in the recent militant murders.

          P.S. To die as a martyr, you must be a victim of persecution 😉

          • Brenda Murphy

            As I have said in other places, those who do not die martyrs, will be resurrected at the great white throne judgment.

            Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
            Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
            Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

          • MRH

            “As I have said in other places, those who do not die martyrs, will be resurrected at the great white throne judgment”

            Brenda: All believers are resurrected at Christs return unto millennium! All unbelievers are resurrected after millennium, and face the great white throne judgment! Can you not see the simple logic in Gods biblical plan?

          • Ron Murphy

            Mark, It never said all the saint shall reign with Christ. It said those that suffer will reign with Christ. The Jew’s that are saved in the millennium will be judged at the great white throne as all other believers that truly believe and follow God’s plan for salvation, which requires following. It is a trail we must follow, not sit down when we get saved.

      • MRH

        “Mark, It never said all the saint shall reign with Christ. It said those that suffer will reign with Christ”

        @Ron: Why must you always take scripture out of context? 🙄

        Question: Do you not suffer persecution even now as a Christian? 💡

        Rom 8:16-18 KJV – The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

        2Th 1:4-5 KJV – So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

        2Ti 2:11-13 KJV – It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

        2Ti 3:12 KJV – Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

        1Pe 3:14 KJV – But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;

        1Pe 4:15-16, 19 KJV – But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. … Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

        P.S. By nature a Christian suffers persecution if they boldly witness holy truths. But if they keep silent about the faith, how would they suffer? I tell you the truth, I suffer continual persecution, especially on such as NTEB 🙁

  • Carol

    All Non-Believers in the Pre-trib RAPTURE– well you will all see it will happen. The Bride gets taken out thats the Church in, Rev 3:10 it says, Because thou hast kept the word of my patience. I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation. Which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth. This is the Mark of the Beast that will go in to all the world. Jesus says he will keep us from the hour of temptation we won’t be tempted to take the mark beacuse we won’t be here . Read Rev 3 :7 KJV is the Church of Philadelpha that is the church that gets Raptured out. The Bride is Not appointed to GOD’S wrath we do ESCAPE the EVIL . The Raptured ones are the BRIDE OF CHRIST. Rev 3:14 is the Laodicean church and they get left behind no more churches are mentioned. In chapter 4 the church is not mentioned anymore in Revelation . The word CAUGHT UP means to be taken out– Rapture take out. The Rapture is going to happen. Praise the Lord!!!I am waiting for it too!!!

    • Bro. Nick

      @ Carol – Thank you for taking the time to explain Biblically about ‘The Rapture’.
      You have caused me to think – for which I also thank you. The following Scripture is sure ‘food for thought’ in this time of ever increasing ‘spiritual deception and falling away’ that is written of and warned about many times by “the Lord Jesus Christ”, all of the authors of the Epistles, and several of the Prophets in the Old Testament in “the truth”, “the word of the LORD”, the Holy Bible – in these ‘end-of-the-end times’ we are living in RIGHT NOW – TODAY
      A major contributing factor of is the ever increasing amount of Apostate and Heretical teachings – which is being led by ‘the pope’ and Roman Catholicism of ‘Apostate Ecumenical Christendom’ – with yet more and more
      “hirelings” – men and women that are ‘wolves in sheeps clothing’, the “false teachers”, and the “false prophets” in these ‘end-of-the-end times’ JUST PRIOR to the ‘Rapture’ of those who are truly CHRISTians “the church” – followed some time after by “that day”, “the day of the Lord”, “the day of the LORD’S wrath”, “the wrath of the Lamb”, “the time of Jacob’s trouble”, the “great tribulation”
      – YET How few CHRISTians have considered – or even realize – that there are many more warnings about ‘spiritual deception’

      – than there are warnings about the ‘physical manifestations’ of wars, earthquakes, pestilences, etc… :

      (7) Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
      (8) For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
      (9) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
      (10) For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
      (11) Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

      (12) For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

      (13) Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
      (Heb 4:7-13 [KJV]) – Emphasis mine – Bro. Nick
      PLEASE READ, study, think about, meditate Biblically and PRAY for true understanding of the whole Chapter (vv 1-16)
      .

    • MRH

      Carol, the problem is that the ‘mark of the beast’ occurs not during tribulation, but rather during the time of wrath. And the ‘hour of temptation’ is also not in tribulation, but rather during the devils wrath. Anyway, if you carefully study things the answer should be clear, and if not then good luck in your quest for holy knowledge 🙂

  • Brenda Murphy

    @ Carol,
    I wish I could believe it, but the Bible says otherwise.
    We will be here until Christ comes, and the last Gentile is come in.
    And that will be after the tribulation…Jesus said it. He said after the tribulation of those days.

    Mat. 24:29-30

    Be prepared to go thru it, be strong in the Lord, always.
    He will keep us from taking the mark, if we only believe and have faith that he will take us to heaven when we are killed for the Word of God.

    We are going to die anyway some day, and if we have to go thru trib for Jesus, we will reign with him some day.
    🙂

    • Brenda Murphy

      Furthermore,
      I am not the ‘bride of Christ’—-I am part of the body of Christ, and the body can’t be the bride.

      The body partakes of the bride, along with Jesus, when it comes down from God out of heaven, ‘the New Jerusalem’.
      Praise the Lord!

    • Carol

      @ Brenda Murphy, Jesus will come as a thief we won’t know what hour he will come this is the RAPTURE . Read Acts 1:9- And when he had spoken these things while they behealed, he was taken up, and a cloud recieved him out of their sight. Verse 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward Heaven as he went up, behold two men stood by them in white apperal. Verse 11 which also said “YE MEN OF GALILEE WHY STAND, YE GAZING UP INTO HEAVEN THIS SAME JESUS WHICH IS TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MATTER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN. The second coming is ALL WILL SEE JESUS. The Sanints will be with JESUS on White Horses. I know all have their own form of what they believe, I’m not going to get into a tiff with anyone about this we all will see, cause it will all affect everyone. Praise the LORD he REGINS in POWER.

      • Carol

        It says we will meet the LORD in the Air. We are Raptured, and we meet JESUS in the AIR on a Cloud in the Air!!!! GOD lead the Children of Israel by a CLOUD during the Day- and a pilar of FIRE at NIGHT. Praise the LORD Acts 1:9-11 Jesus was taken up in a cloud in the air, we will Raptured in the Air. Praise the LORD!! Everyone Check out the JEWISH WEDDING what happens How they do the JEWISH WEDDINGS. Its very INTERESTING- Read also the 5 WISE VIRGINS– and the 5 foolish virgins in Matt 25. The 5 WISE VIRGINS GET RAPTURED for the WEDDING SUPPER the door was opened. The 5 foolish missed the Rapture the doors were shut JESUS told them they couldn’t come in We all have our own beliefs, we will all see soon. 🙂 AMEN

  • Patrick

    nteresting, your article shows no means by which President Obama is in any way connected with these actions. The first you mention is an action by the Fox Corporation, who are opposed to everything connected with Obama. The Florida and Oklahoma instances could not have happened had the state legislatures not allowed Christian groups to make displays and distribute pamphlets.

    Also, let’s not forget that the New Testament in general and the Gospels in particular make it clear Christians are instructed not to worry about anything that happens in this world, because we are destined for the next world.

    • Bro. Nick

      @ John Little – You continue to be contentious over the doctrine of ‘the when of the Rapture’ – WHICH IS NOT ESSENTIAL UNTO SALVATION.
      Will you please consider the following –

      My personal understanding is that –
      The problem lies not with the doctrine of the ‘pre-tribulation rapture’ – the problem is that it is not taught Biblically. There has been persecution and tribulation for the ‘true church’ since shortly after “the Lord Jesus Christ” was translated back to heaven – and it is on the increase all around the world.

      Why is it that so many that call themselves ‘christians’ here in “Amerika” – and other western “civilized countries” – want an ‘ejection seat’ out of the increasingly real problems that are occurring – whether they are caused by the increasing intensity and frequency of destructive events in nature – OR – the worldwide economic ‘meltdown’ – OR – the many other consequences of ever increasingly evil people – OR – the exponential increase of false teaching – OR – the rapid rise of real Persecution of CHRISTians worldwide?
      Yet if you read and truly believe what “THE LORD GOD” inspired to be written in His Holy Word – He has promised in many places throughout the Holy Bible that these things must come!

      Do ‘Amerikan’ and ‘westernized’ Christians really ‘think’ that we are somehow different, or ‘special’, or ‘better’ than our many truly converted CHRISTian Brothers and Sisters all around the world that are being Persecuted for their faith in The LORD Jesus Christ in 110+ countries – and many of whom are also increasingly being devastated by everly increasingly catastrophic ‘natural’ disasters? – NOW – TODAY!!!

      ——————————-
      HOWEVER – there is a real Biblical difference between the promised tribulation and persecution that CHRISTians are told that we will endure (Rev 3:19 [KJV])
      – AND – “the day of the LORD”, “the time of Jacob’s trouble”, the “great tribulation” – that is not for those who are truly followers and believers in “the Lord Jesus Christ” – “the church” – CHRISTians.

      ———————————-
      That is my basic understanding of what “the word of God” actually says.

      I will not argue – because there are many real CHRISTians that do not agree, and my understanding is that the ‘when’ of ‘the rapture’ doctrine is not ‘essential’
      – and I will not break fellowship with my Brothers and Sisters in Jesus Christ over it!
      .

      • Brenda Murphy

        @ Nick,
        If you do not want the truth, then God will give it to someone else.

        If you do not want to die for Christ, someone else will, and get their reward of reigning with Christ in the millennial reign.

        If you do not want to teach the truth, someone else will, because God wants the truth to be told, so people will be ready to go thru the trib.

        • TeresaB

          Hi Brenda, well said.

    • MRH

      ” Jesus, Himself, said that the rapture would come after the tribulation .. Paul said that the Rapture would come AFTER the resurrection”

      @John Little: The rapture is part of the resurrection to be specific 🙂

      Both the dead and living are changed in the same instant and then both transformed groups together are raptured into heaven. Also this global event occurs after the tribulation just before the end of the world prevails 😉

      1Co 15:23-24, 51-52 KJV – But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. … Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      1Th 4:16-17 KJV – For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    • Bro. Nick

      @ Debbie Thompson – Thank you for your clarifications.
      However, there are always only a few – “the remnant” – of real CHRISTians that have “an heart to perceive”, “ears to hear”, and “eyes to see”
      – AND that are even aware of the incredible danger of the ‘spiritual deception and falling away’ that is happening – TODAY – RIGHT NOW !!!

      (9) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
      (10) For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
      (11) Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
      (12) For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
      (Heb 4:9-12 [KJV])
      PLEASE READ, study, think and meditate upon and PRAY for understanding of the entire Chapter – Bro. Nick
      .

      • Brenda Murphy

        Nick said–(10) For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

        In Revelation, it says this, too!

        Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

    • MRH

      “If you will study Revelations you will see that the Church is not spoken of after the third chapter”

      Debbie: Correct, the term ‘church’ doesn’t exist beyond Rev 3, but I guarantee you it is implied elsewhere. Or do you not know whom the ‘saints’ are?

      Rom 1:7 KJV – To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

      1Co 1:2 KJV – Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

      Col 1:2 KJV – To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

      Rev 13:7 KJV – And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

      P.S. Are you a blessed saint (believer) or a cursed sinner (unbeliever)? 😉

    • Carol

      AMEN @ Debbie Thompson. 🙂

  • Sunny

    50 Facts That Show How Far America Has Fallen In This Generation! 🙁
    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/50-facts-that-show-how-far-america-has-fallen-in-this-generation

    …Why just blame Obama only, aren’t we TOO are responsible…a little bit of it???

    • Bro. Nick

      @ Sunny – About responsibility – Yup – A majority of ‘We the ‘sheeple” have placed Pres. Obama in office not once – BUT TWICE.

      • MRH

        Or maybe ‘they’ craftily installed him, and made it look like we did? 💡

      • Sunny

        Do you think Bush(s) and Clinton were, TOO better administrators than Obama?

        How much illogical will it be to deduce that Obama is bearing the brunt of Everything that were stealthily brought into the fate of USA by his predecessors in the last 3-4 decades?

        Actually, we come to know whatever Media feeds us, else how much truth can we all know just by sitting at home and Googling? 🙁

    • MRH

      Tip: The only rapture readiness factor is salvation 😉

      P.S. All living in the end will have a second chance 🙂

      • Ron Murphy

        @ Mark. You will pay big time for these lies you spread. You teach damnable lies. No one will be given second chance the door will be shut and he NEVER knew you. If you cause one person to go to hell, you are in peril yourself. These lies will damn some, and by your mouth they fly. You have no fear of God. You continue with your wickedness. You shall also reap it’s rewards. 😉

        • MRH

          Ron, why don’t you mind your own damn business just for once? If you don’t like my whatever offers then don’t read or comment on them. I will not stop my teaching as I believe it is honorable, and I definitely don’t share your kooky viewpoints.

          P.S. So again either be polite and nice, or cease and desist 💡

  • ShieldedMessenger

    Obama is the antichrist, the lawless one. Those who follow after Obama are heading toward hell.

    • CrissCross
    • MRH

      “Obama is the antichrist”

      True, so why don’t folks believe the obvious?

    • Mike savage

      Actually anyone in oposition to the Christ (messiah) is an antichrist. The scriptures tell of “the antichrist” and is, in such references, referring to all antichrists as one, in a somewhat metaphorical sense.

      • MRH

        “Actually anyone in oposition to the Christ (messiah) is an antichrist”

        @Mike savage: True, but the ‘son of perdition’ is one man, also called the ‘man of sin’. The first was Judas, when Satan entered him. The second I believe is Obama, when his unholy time comes. Right now he’s still only rising into power, nothing magically revealed yet. And no telling what the future revealing will be like either, but my guess is it will be demonic in all points and purposes.

  • Sunny

    The Top of the Pyramid: The Rothschild, the British Crown and the Vatican Rule the World 😯
    http://humansarefree.com/2014/09/the-top-of-pyramid-rothschilds-british.html

    • CrissCross

      Old article with few updates! Old wine in a new bottle? 😉

    • MRH

      See below video playlist 😉

  • Leon

    CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD – Connections to JWs, Mormons and Judaism 🙁
    http://humansarefree.com/2014/09/the-unsung-power-of-rothschilds.html

    • MRH

      See below video playlist 😉

  • MRH

  • Sunny
    • MRH

      The pope is not the Antichrist!

  • CrissCross
  • Mike savage

    Anything to do with any religion is Satanism, since Satan first brought religion to Earth. Constantine’s Bible and the religion he created, that later became Catholicism, is Satan’s premier effort in misleading Earth. All religion is an abomination to God, as are all false translations of the scriptures, such as KJV, ASV, DR, and most others. So the rise of Satanism is nothing new, and is no surprise. It started in the Garden of Eden and was most widely furthered with the Roman Church, and a little later, the Roman Catholic Church and their Bible. A later copy, the KJV, has fooled and tricked countless millions. That’s where the trinity, cross, immortal soul, hell, and most other scriptural lies began.

    • MRH

      Masonic = Satanic! The occult symbolism is how dark angels communicate. The NWO is Satan’s plan for future global rule, and it will involve; depopulation, and enslavement. This world belongs to Satan, as it was given unto him at the fall. The human kings and queens and clan are his puppets, as also many celebrities. We live in a matrix designed and controlled by the dark ones. The populace is perpetually kept in the dark, as dark agendas are formed. And the only escape portal is Christ, for doomsday is finally near at hand! Even now the evil orders are designing and testing their end stage props, and no human power can resist nor halt them 😯

      P.S. Don’t believe me, then I suggest research, and above video playlist yields much hidden knowledge 💡

  • Mike savage

    You are apparently not aware that all religion originates with Satan. ALL RELIGION. No religion teaches the truth or teaches one to do the will of God, always, every day, in everything you do. Failure to do so is to ask God for a judgement upon your head of destruction in the tribulation or final battle. Run from religion, study an ACCURATE translation of the scriptures, do God’s will in everything, and you will be protected. Otherwise, you are kaput! The choice is yours.

    • MRH

      “You are apparently not aware that all religion originates with Satan”

      @Mike savage: Religion is man-made doctrines, by twisting holy truth into fables.

      1Ti 1:4 KJV – Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

      1Ti 4:7 KJV – But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

      2Ti 4:4 KJV – And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

      Tit 1:14 KJV – Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

      2Pe 1:16 KJV – For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

      P.S. Religion is the enemy of true Christianity, and it has many rules and rituals to follow. Satan has captured the churches and cast them into bondage! Christ has come to free us from bondage of the law, into grace. But those whom are trapped by the many temples are blind. I’m not, as I follow the bible NOT religion 🙂

  • dogg

    The Bible says that God will see his people THROUGH, not rapture them before it. Just like he saved Shadrach, Mishack and Abednigo in the fire, not from the fire. Just like he save the Children of Israel in the wanderings in the desert and not from it. Just like he saved Job in his suffering brought on by the devil, not from it. He saved Joseph in slavery to Egypt, and not from it. He saved Noah in the flood, and not from it. He gives us opportunity to build our characters, so we can go through tribulations– and THE tribulation– to be a witness to others.

    • MRH

      “The Bible says that God will see his people THROUGH, not rapture them before it”

      @dogg: The great tribulation isn’t the real issue, as none are spared any tribulation type. In fact the world is an ongoing cauldron of tribulation from beginning to end. And the end of life tribulations is death, which all creatures partake in. And as Christians we should glory in our tribulations? Also persecution is a form of tribulation, as well common things such as; illness, accidents, natural disasters, etc. We are not spared from death in this life, only in the resurrection.

      Jhn 16:33 KJV – These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

      Act 14:22 KJV – Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

      Rom 5:3 KJV – And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

      Rom 8:35 KJV – Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

      Rom 12:12 KJV – Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

      2Co 1:4 KJV – Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

      So what exactly does tribulation entail? Strong’s G2347 – thlipsis: oppression, affliction, tribulation, distress, straits,
      http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2347&t=KJV

      The bible actually clues us into what the great tribulation will consist of, and where it begins, and whom it is intended for.

      Luk 21:20-24 KJV – And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

      So then what are we spared from as believers? We are delivered from the wrath to come. And there are two parts of wrath involved; Satan’s, and Gods. But it’s all part of the day of the Lord period, also the time of the heathen or Gentiles. And contrary to post-trib popular opinion, the mark of the beast does not occur during tribulation, but rather during Satan’s wrath, which is when the beast kingdom reigns.

      Rev 12:9-12 KJV – And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

      P.S. The Antichrist is revealed at the end, after the tribulation and rapture 😉

  • Mike savage

    It makes me glad to see that someone on this site has an understanding of scriptures. Your postulations are spot on the money.

    • MRH

      “Your postulations are spot on the money”

      @Mike savage: To whom are you referring to?

  • Mike savage

    That was intended for MRH

    • MRH

      Thanks brother 🙂 Unfortunately most Christians here and elsewhere are blinded by their beliefs 🙁 My biblical beliefs and conspiracy knowledge are based on intensive research, not on blind faith or such silliness 😉

      But God also speaks to me and shows me many mysteries, and helps me to understand them. Through the bible and external sources, is where I get my knowledge, and sometimes by direct revelation from God. Even so, the secrets of the end times and such are yet purposefully hidden, and will be thus until the rapture reveals all mystery to us 😀

      Why? Because we are all under trial from birth until death, and the world is also under trial from the beginning. We are free to choose whichever paths in life to take. Whether we choose God or Satan to guide our steps. And whichever god we choose, will affect our outcome in the end. Even so, God alone has final judgment call; heaven, or hell! I’ve chosen Christ 🙂

  • Mike savage

    Most so called Christians are blinded. Almost completely all of them. Satan has been quite effective in misleading the entire inhabited Earth.

    I do want to point out that what people call the “rapture” is a misinterpretation, as interpretation is not the way to accurate discernment of scriptures. God said that “all interpretation belongs to me”, indicating that we should not employ it. Now, as far as the rapture, it is referring to the remnant of the annointed 144,000 left just before Armageddon. They will be converted essentially into spirit creatures, and taken to work with Jesus in fighting Armageddon, and in ruling Earth in God’s Theocracy, from Heaven.

    • MRH

      “Now, as far as the rapture, it is referring to the remnant of the annointed 144,000 left just before Armageddon”

      @Mike savage: According to 1 Cor 15, the rapture is the resurrection, and includes ALL believers, not just a small remnant group of 144,000 saints 😉

      1Co 15:20-23, 35-36, 42-45, 49-54 KJV – But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. … But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: … So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. … And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

      P.S. By the millennium, humanity as we know it will have vanished forever 😯

  • Mike savage

    Most who believe in such an absurd idea as a “rapture” are members of Christendom, not Christianity. They believe that they will ALL be “raptured” to heaven, and they believe they have an immortal soul, they do not. No one does. Those who will be taken to heaven after being converted in to spirit creatures as angels and as Jesus already are, are the annointed co-princes and co-heirs with Jesus. They are the ONLY ones to see heaven. They will fight alongside Jesus during the final battle, and will co-rule Earth post Armageddon for the judgement day period for 1000 years. The resurrection that begins post armageddon is of the righteous and the unrighteous, who will be judged during the judgement day period. After those who do not pass muster are again destroyed, only the righteous shall inhabit the Earth, forever, in a paradise Earth. That is what the scriptures say.

    • MRH

      “Most who believe in such an absurd idea as a “rapture” are members of Christendom, not Christianity .. only the righteous shall inhabit the Earth, forever, in a paradise Earth. That is what the scriptures say”

      @Mike savage: So what you are saying is that Paul’s letters to the church are false doctrine? Well then maybe the whole bible must be a myth?

      Isa 65:17 KJV – For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

      Isa 66:22 KJV – For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

      2Pe 3:13 KJV – Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

      Rev 21:1 KJV – And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

      P.S. The heavens and earth which are now shall be destroyed by fire 😯

  • Mike savage

    MRH;
    Your quotes are form the KJV Bible. It is crammed full of false translations of words, and false ideas. It is descended from the Roman Church Bible created in 325 a.d. that is half pagan half Christian, and was created by Constantine’s Council held at Nicea. Their goal was to attract Christians AND pagans to their new state religion churches, so more cash could be collected. The King James is extremely misleading, and accurate discernment of scripture is impossible using it.

    • MRH

      “The King James is extremely misleading, and accurate discernment of scripture is impossible using it”

      @Mike savage: So which bible version is correct, or is there even any such thing? Others online versions I have are; NKJV, NLT, NIV, ESV, HCSB, NASB, RSV, ASV, YLT, DBY, WEB, HNV, RVR60, VUL, mGNT, and TR.

  • Mike savage

    Young’s is a much better translation. It only has a small percentage of mistranslated words. It still differs somewhat from the original texts, but it’s much easier to discern the accurate meaning of each scripture. However, with any translation, comparative analysis when studying a scripture, in other words, comparing each sentence with all other sentences throughout the Bible on that particular subject is required, to ensure that the correct meaning can be understood. Since there are NO contradictions and God cannot lie, if you keep those two things in mind, it should help.

    • MRH

      “Young’s is a much better translation”

      @Mike savage: Ok, I’m not seeing much difference between KJV and YLT with below passage. The general gist is still the same. God will destroy this present imperfect universe and create a new perfect one in its place 🙂

      2Pe 3:9-13 YLT – the Lord is not slow in regard to the promise, as certain count slowness, but is long-suffering to us, not counselling any to be lost but all to pass on to reformation, and it will come — the day of the Lord — as a thief in the night, in which the heavens with a rushing noise will pass away, and the elements with burning heat be dissolved, and earth and the works in it shall be burnt up. All these, then, being dissolved, what kind of persons doth it behove you to be in holy behaviours and pious acts? waiting for and hasting to the presence of the day of God, by which the heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements with burning heat shall melt; and for new heavens and a new earth according to His promise we do wait, in which righteousness doth dwell;

  • Mike savage

    Actually, it’s the use of the word hell where it means grave, and the use of cross when it means stake. Church when ecclesia means people or congregation, and many many other mistranslations. They are misleading and totally change the meaning of a huge amount of things in the scriptures. Nothing in the scriptures supports Jesus dying on a cross, people having immortal souls, anyone suffering in a burning hell, and so on. Ecclesia when referring to the Christian Congregation being translated as church misleads one into believing that churches are legitimate, or that religion is legitimate, when the scriptures clearly teach that they are not. These things and many more totally obfuscate the accurate meaning of the majority of scriptures. Especially the cross referenced ones that speak of a common topic. One mistranslated sentence negatively adjusts the meaning of hundreds of other sentences. It’s like one bad apple in a barrel, ruins most of the rest of the barrel. One person with the flu can sneeze on a crowd and infect them all. It’s a cascading effect so to speak. It is said in the Bible that Satan is misleading the entire inhabited Earth. Religion, and false translations of God’s words to us are his two most powerful tools in that misleading effort. Peer pressure is pretty powerful also.

    • MRH

      “Actually, it’s the use of the word hell where it means grave, and the use of cross when it means stake. Church when ecclesia means people or congregation, and many many other mistranslations”

      @Mike savage: Yes I know about KJV translation errors and such. But the general gist of the message is often the same between versions 😉

      As for the term hell {grave}, it’s a state of being or should I say non-being? The grave is; dark, silent, and timeless. The second death (lake of fire) is eternal oblivion, in other words non-existence? Which is exactly what happens with total destruction aspect of body and mind!

      The term church indicates the body of Christ, also gatherings of faith members. The church is also the temple of God, but we humans have limited knowledge and perception as to the spirit world. Also the prophecies are often symbolic, which complicates things somewhat.

      As for cross or stake, it’s a debatable topic. Roman crucifixion had different formats (wiki states), but Jesus’ method is yet unknown.

      Lexicon :: Strong’s G4716 – stauros :
      http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G4716&t=KJV

      My guess is that it was a stake with a cross piece, the latter of which the condemned carried. The Romans would have carried the much heavier stake part to site prior? As for tree aspect, well yes, as they used wood naturally. But Jesus was in no shape to carry but barely himself, being weakened from extreme blood loss.

      Isa 52:14 KJV – As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

      So Simon was commanded to carry the cross piece?

      Mat 27:32 KJV – And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.

      Also the term cross is used prior to his crucifixion, which suggests dual meaning of term.. Burdens?

      Mat 16:24 KJV – Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

  • Bro. Nick

    I sincerely pray that all truly “converted”, “born again”, “the few”, “the remnant”, the truly “converted” Biblical CHRISTians who are the followers of “the Lord Jesus Christ” that have “an heart to perceive”, “ears to hear”, and “eyes to see” will truly ‘read and heed’ in these days of increasing danger of ‘spiritual deception, delusion and a falling away from the truth’
    – that each of us will Effectively and Earnestly Pray unto “the Lord God Almighty” for His Wisdom, Discernment, and Guidance in “the truth” of “the law”, “the words of the LORD” – the Holy Bible – and will truly believe and depend upon His Strength and the Power of His Might (Eph 6:10):
    {8} Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
    {9} Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
    (1 Peter 5:8-9 [KJV])

    My very strong suggestion is that no one should depend upon the comments of anyone on a website like this for understanding of what “THE TRUTH” of “THE WORD OF THE LORD” is – and that includes mine!

    There are many posts that express personal understandings and opinions as fact
    – and they are convinced that theirs is the only correct one
    – despite the fact that someone else has a conflicting understanding that they say is the only correct one! Sound confusing – YES.

    PLEASE REMEMBER WHAT “THE WORD OF GOD” SAYS about confusion:
    “FOR GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF confusion,
    but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
    (1 Cor 14:33 [KJV]) – CAPITALization and emphasis mine – Bro. Nick

    My closest CHRISTian Brother who is an ‘uneducated’ God called Pastor in Kenya just led me to read I Kings Chapter 13, where it is very clearly written and warned that THE ONLY SOURCE OF ABSOLUTE TRUTH IS “THE WORD OF THE LORD” – for “it is written”:

    “God forbid: YEA, LET GOD BE TRUE,
    but every man a liar”
    (Rom 3:4a [KJV])

    {5} TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL THINE HEART;
    and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    {6} IN ALL THY WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, AND HE SHALL DIRECT THY PATHS.
    (Prov 3:5-6 [KJV])

    {15} STUDY TO SHEW THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD,
    a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH.
    {16} But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
    {17} And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
    {18} Who concerning THE TRUTH have erred,
    saying that the resurrection is past already;
    and overthrow the faith of some.
    (2 Tim 2:15-18 [KJV])

    {5} EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE: HE IS A SHIELD UNTO THEM THAT PUT THEIR TRUST IN HIM.
    {6} Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
    (Prov 30:5-6 [KJV])

    {17} BOW DOWN THINE EAR,
    AND HEAR THE WORDS OF THE WISE,
    AND APPLY THINE HEART UNTO MY KNOWLEDGE.
    {18} For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
    {19} THAT THY TRUST MAY BE IN THE LORD,
    I HAVE MADE KNOWN TO THEE THIS DAY, EVEN TO THEE.
    {20} Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
    {21} THAT I MIGHT MAKE THEE KNOW THE CERTAINTY OF THE WORDS OF TRUTH;
    that thou mightest answer THE WORDS OF TRUTH to them that send unto thee?
    (Prov 22:17-21 [KJV])

    Note – Scripture CAPITALization and emphasis mine – Bro. Nick
    .

  • Mike savage

    Did God command us to take in “the general gist” of His word, or did He command us to take in “accurate knowledge daily” of Him and His word? The KJV errors are not simply errors. They are deliberate. Your adherence to such falsehoods makes you deliberately in error as well. Adhering to false religion ALSO makes you in error, deliberately. You’ve made a choice in doing those things, and it’s not a beneficial one. It guarantees that you are not one of God’s people, but one of Satan’s. Once again, it’s your choice to make.

  • MRH

    “Did God command us to take in “the general gist” of His word, or did He command us to take in “accurate knowledge daily” of Him and His word?”

    @Mike savage: Why must you complicate things? I’ve done comparison studies with bible versions, and some things are indeed wrong, but even so the holy message is there.

    P.S. If I was actually of Satan, then would I not also be against God (Christ denier – antichrist)? False Christians always reject the Gospel message, and that is a given. Not that all true Christians understand all biblical matters. Rather we are all still learning as we go, until Christ returns to fully enlighten us to all holy truth! Do you not agree?

  • Mike savage

    Rapture
    Definition: The belief that faithful Christians will be bodily caught up from the earth, suddenly taken out of the world, to be united with the Lord “in the air.” The word “rapture” is understood by some persons, but not by all, to be the meaning of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The word “rapture” does not occur in the inspired Scriptures.
    When the apostle Paul said that Christians would be “caught up” to be with the Lord, what subject was being discussed?
    1 Thess. 4:13-18, RS: “We would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep [“those who sleep in death,” NE; “those who have died,” TEV, JB], that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” (Evidently some members of the Christian congregation in Thessalonica had died. Paul encouraged the survivors to comfort one another with the resurrection hope. He reminded them that Jesus was resurrected after his death; so, too, at the coming of the Lord, those faithful Christians among them who had died would be raised to be with Christ.)
    Who are the ones that will be ‘caught up in the clouds,’ as stated at 1 Thessalonians 4:17?
    Verse 15 explains that they are faithful ones “who are left until the coming of the Lord,” that is, they are still living at the time of Christ’s coming. Will they ever die? According to Romans 6:3-5 and 1 Corinthians 15:35, 36, 44 (quoted on pages 314, 315), they must die before they can gain heavenly life. But there is no need for them to remain in the death state awaiting Christ’s return. They will instantly be “caught up,” “in the twinkling of an eye,” to be with the Lord.—1 Cor. 15:51, 52, RS; also Revelation 14:13.
    Will Christ appear visibly on a cloud and then take away faithful Christians into the heavens while the world looks on?
    Did Jesus say whether the world would see him again with their physical eyes?
    John 14:19, RS: “Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but you [his faithful disciples] will see me; because I live, you will live also.” (Italics added.) (Compare 1 Timothy 6:16.)
    What is the meaning of the Lord’s ‘descending from heaven’?
    Could the Lord “descend from heaven,” as stated at 1 Thessalonians 4:16, without being visible to physical eyes? In the days of ancient Sodom and Gomorrah, Jehovah said that he was going to “go down to see” what the people were doing. (Gen. 18:21, RS) But when Jehovah made that inspection, no human saw him, although they did see the angelic representatives that he sent. (John 1:18) Similarly, without having to return in the flesh, Jesus could turn his attention to his faithful followers on earth to reward them.
    In what sense, then, will humans “see” the Lord “coming in a cloud”?
    Jesus foretold: “Then they will see the Son of man [Jesus Christ] coming in a cloud with power and great glory.” (Luke 21:27, RS) In no way does this statement or similar ones in other texts contradict what Jesus said as recorded at John 14:19. Consider: At Mount Sinai, what occurred when God ‘came to the people in a thick cloud,’ as stated at Exodus 19:9? (RS) God was invisibly present; the people of Israel saw visible evidence of his presence, but none of them actually saw God with their eyes. So, too, when Jesus said that he would come “in a cloud,” he must have meant that he would be invisible to human eyes but that humans would be aware of his presence. They would “see” him with their mental eyes, discerning the fact that he was present. (For further comments, see the main heading “Return of Christ.”)
    Is it possible for Christians to be taken to heaven with their physical bodies?
    1 Cor. 15:50, RS: “I tell you this, brethren: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.”
    Does the experience of the prophet Elijah contradict this? Not at all. It must be understood in the light of Jesus’ clear statement centuries later: “No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from heaven, the Son of man.” (John 3:13, RS) Although Elijah was seen as he “went up by a whirlwind into heaven,” this does not mean that he went into the spirit realm. Why not? Because he is later reported as sending a letter of reproof to the king of Judah. (2 Ki. 2:11, RS; 2 Chron. 21:1, 12-15) Before humans invented airplanes, Jehovah there used his own means (a fiery chariot and a whirlwind) to lift Elijah off the ground into the heaven where the birds fly and to transport him to another place.—Compare Genesis 1:6-8, 20.
    Will faithful Christians perhaps be taken to heaven secretly, simply disappearing from the earth without dying?
    Rom. 6:3-5, RS: “Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? . . . For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.” (What occurred in the case of Jesus set the pattern. His disciples as well as others knew he had died. He was not restored to heavenly life until after his death and resurrection.)
    1 Cor. 15:35, 36, 44, RS: “Some one will ask, ‘How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?’ You foolish man! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body.” (So death comes before one receives that spiritual body, does it not?)
    Will all faithful Christians be taken miraculously from the earth by the Lord before the great tribulation?
    Matt. 24:21, 22: “Then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.” (This does not say that “the chosen ones” will all have been taken to heaven before the great tribulation, does it? Rather, it holds out the prospect to them, along with associates in the flesh, of surviving that great tribulation on earth.)
    Rev. 7:9, 10, 14, RS: “After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, ‘Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, and to the Lamb!’ . . . ‘These are they who have come out of the great tribulation.’” (To “come out” of something a person must go into it or be in it. So this great multitude must be persons who actually experience the great tribulation and come out of it as survivors.) (Regarding their being on earth, see pages 167, 168.)
    What protection will there be for true Christians during the great tribulation?
    Rom. 10:13, RS: “Every one who calls upon the name of the Lord [“Jehovah,” NW] will be saved.”
    Zeph. 2:3, RS: “Seek the LORD [“Jehovah,” NW, AS, Yg, By], all you humble of the land, who do his commands; seek righteousness, seek humility; perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the wrath of the LORD.” (Also Isaiah 26:20)
    Will all true Christians perhaps be taken to heaven after the great tribulation?
    Matt. 5:5, RS: “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.”
    Ps. 37:29, RS: “The righteous shall possess the land [“earth,” Ro, NW], and dwell upon it for ever.” (Also verses 10, 11, 34)
    1 Cor. 15:50, RS: “Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.”
    See also the main heading “Heaven.”
    Why are some Christians taken to heaven to be with Christ?
    Rev. 20:6, RS: “They shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.” (Since they are to reign with Christ, there must be people over whom they reign. Who are these? See Matthew 5:5 and Psalm 37:29.)
    See also the main heading “Born Again.”
    Will those who go to heaven be returned later to the earth to live forever here in Paradise?
    Prov. 2:21, RS: “The upright will inhabit the land [“dwell on earth,” NE], and men of integrity will remain in it.” (Notice that the scripture does not say that such upright people will return to the earth but that they will remain there.)
    1 Thess. 4:17, RS: “And so we [Christians caught away to heaven] shall always be with the Lord.”

  • Mike savage

    If you were to look at those same scriptures in a translation that was accurate, you would not see the contradictions that you posted. Almost all translations are rife with inaccurate translations. They’re not there by accident either. They are quite deliberate. Changing the meaning of one word that appears multiple times in the scriptures changes the meaning of hundreds if not thousands of scriptures. There are hundreds of mistranslated words in the Bibles that most use today. Compare whatever Bible you quoted against the original scrolls and you will be quite surprised.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      @ Mike savage – Sir – can you tell anyone where ‘the original scrolls’ that you refer to are?
      What a very real miracle by “the Lord God Almighty” to physically preserve that which Moses originally wrote approx. 3,900 years ago – that they are still in existence ! ! !
      .

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  • Chris Marlow

    Although we all vote for whom we deem the “best” candidate for office(as I do)… it’s all NWO sadly (voting for six of one or half dozen of another), and we Christians need to be ready as much as possible for the horrible times coming before the Lord comes back to take us who remain(which may not be many of us) up to be with Him. This world isn’t anyone’s home, we’re all just passing through (saved or unsaved). We as Christians need to concentrate on keeping our faith in God through Jesus (definitely starting with me), because our faith in Him is what we’re going to be left with soon. As horrible as it may be, it’d be better for me to starve to death, die of the elements or be put to death rather than accept the mark of the beast and eventually be thrown into the lake of fire for eternity at the end. God help us all.

  • Mike savage

    I saw your post about voting and NWO. I just wanted to ask why, if Jesus went to such lengths to explain to true Christians to be “no part of the world” (politics, desires of the world, war, greed, etc.)you would promote voting to who you believe are Christians? No amounbt of voting or involvement in politics can change a thing. The ONLY hope for Earth and humanity is the Kingdom rule. The total elimination of the governments and religions of the world and the Kingdom starting to rule Earth is the only thing that can change our lot for the better.

  • Bro. Nick Nicholas

    Just exactly as it is written in “the word of the LORD” in 1 Timothy 6:10 [KJV]:

    “For the love of money is the root of all evil:
    which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
    .

    • Mike savage

      Here is exactly what the Greek says, word for word, translated into English: root for of all the bad things is the fondness of silver, of which some reaching out were led off into error from the faith and themselves they pierced around to pains many.

      An English translation into an English sentence reads: For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains.

      So you see, the KJV isn’t quite accurate, when you look at the literal translation in the first sentence. It says that the love of money is A root of evil, not the root of ALL evil.

      Go online and look at BibleGateway.com and look at Young’s Literal translation. It reads:
      1 Timothy 6:10Young’s Literal Translation (YLT)

      10 for A root of all the evils is the love of money, which certain longing for did go astray from the faith, and themselves did pierce through with many sorrows;

      Here’s another one:

      1 Timothy 6:10Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

      10 The love of money causes all kinds of evil. Some people have turned away from what we believe because they want to get more and more money. But they have caused themselves a lot of pain and sorrow.

      It is important to know what God intended, rather than what someone mistranslated a scripture to say. He intended to say that the love of money and desire for more, is A ROOT OF EVIL, not the root of ALL evil. Satan is the root of ALL evil, not money.

      • Bro. Nick Nicholas

        @ Mike savage – Sir, If you personally wish to use any or all other bible versions, translations or paraphrases – that most certainly is your privilege.
        You have chosen to believe that the love of money is a root of evil.

        – – – – – – ‘Things that are different are not the same.’ – – – – – – –

        My personal choice is to continue to believe just exactly that which is written in the Holy Bible [KJV] in 1 Timothy 6:10 [KJV]:
        “For the love of money is the root of all evil:
        which while some coveted after,
        they have erred from the faith,
        and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

        I have personally chosen not to question or deny that “the only wise God” is able to perfectly preserve His word in the Holy Bible [KJV], for He says of Himself in Jeremiah 32:27 [KJV]:
        “Behold,
        I AM THE LORD, THE GOD OF ALL FLESH:
        is there any thing too hard for me?”

        – And in Malachi 3:6 [KJV] “the Lord God Almighty” says:
        “FOR I AM THE LORD,
        I CHANGE NOT;
        therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”

        – And in Isaiah 55:8-9 [KJV] “the LORD JEHOVAH” inspired to be written about Himself:
        “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
        For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
        so are my ways higher than your ways,
        and my thoughts than your thoughts.”

        – And in Proverbs 30:5-6 [KJV] it is written about “the truth”, “the law”, “the word of the LORD”:
        “EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE:
        HE IS A SHIELD UNTO THEM THAT PUT THEIR TRUST IN HIM.
        ADD THOU NOT UNTO HIS WORDS,
        lest he reprove thee,
        and thou be found a liar.”

        Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32 and Revelation 22:18-19 [KJV] also have very severe warnings about ‘adding to’ OR ‘taking away from’ “the word of GOD”

        – CAPITALization and emphasis of “the words of the LORD” are mine
        – all words/phrases in ” ” are found in the Holy Bible [KJV]
        .

  • Mike savage

    Nick;
    I understand what you are saying. I however, prefer to KNOW that the translation I use, is what God INTENDED to say to us, not what someone else WANTS us to believe is what He intended, which is what the KJV and NKJV are. They aren’t accurate, as to the original scrolls, and what God Himself intended to tell us. Constantine saw to that in 325 a.d.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      @ Mike savage – Sir, NO – You do not understand what I say.

      Again – if you personally choose to use any or all other bible versions, translations or paraphrases – that most certainly is your privilege.
      You talk of believing that which was said by the man Constantine, and have chosen to believe what that man says, not believing that which is written in the “the word of the LORD” in the Holy Bible [KJV].
      You accuse the large group of men that were the translators of the Holy Bible [KJV] – who have been physically dead for more than 300 years – and are not able to personally defend themselves of your accusation about them not being accurate in their translation.
      I heard the comment made that those scholars have forgotten more Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek than any of ‘the scholars’ of today ever knew.

      Again – ‘Things that are different are not the same.’ – – – – – –

      My personal choice continues to be – that I will continue to believe specifically that “the only wise God” is able to perfectly preserve “the law” exactly and specifically as it is written in “the word of the LORD” in the Holy Bible [KJV], NOT questioning or denying the absolute truth of “the LORD JEHOVAH” who personally says in Isaiah 57:15-16 [KJV]:
      “For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.”

      Jesus Christ, “the Son of God” personally said in Matthew Chapter 5:
      17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
      18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
      19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
      20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

      I personally have chosen to believe exactly that which was inspired to be written by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:5-8 [KJV]:
      “THAT YOUR FAITH
      should not stand in the wisdom of men,
      BUT IN THE POWER OF GOD.
      Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect:
      yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
      BUT WE SPEAK THE WISDOM OF GOD IN A MYSTERY, EVEN THE HIDDEN WISDOM,
      WHICH GOD ORDAINED BEFORE THE WORLD UNTO OUR GLORY:
      Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”

      I take very seriously the warnings in “the word of God” that are written in Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32 | Proverbs 30:5-6 | Revelation 22:18-19 [KJV] about ‘adding to’ OR ‘taking away from’ “the word of the LORD” ! ! !

      – CAPITALization and emphasis of “the words of the LORD” are mine
      – all words/phrases in ” ” are found in the Holy Bible [KJV]

  • Mike savage

    What I posted had nothing to do with what Constantine SAID, but with what he DID. He created the KJV Bible by melding pagan and Christian beliefs in one Bible, for use in a state religion, under Constantine, called the Roman Church. He changed God’s word quite substantially.

    • Bro. Nick Nicholas

      @ Mike savage – Sir, You did make make one comment that I agree with totally – ‘He (Emperor Constantine} changed God’s word quite substantially.’
      The following quote says much about what the Emperor Constantine actually did –
      ‘In 331 AD, Emperor Contantine ordered that an “ecumenical Bible” be written. Constantine wanted a Bible which would be acceptable to pagans as well as Christians, and Eusebius (the Bishop of Caesaria and a follower of Origen) was assigned to direct this task. Eusebius rejected the deity of Christ and claimed that Christ was a created being. This error, called the Arian heresy, is taught by the Roman Catholic Church. (Want proof? The pope has declared the Vulgate as the “infallilble Bible” and the Vulgate is Arian, since it removes the diety of Christ.) In any event, Eusebius, being a devout student of Origen’s work, gladly obliged Emperor Constantine’s request, and sent him manuscripts filled with Alexandrian corruption.’
      http://www.1611kingjamesbible.com/constantine.html/

      But you say that the Emperor Constantine did create ‘the KJV Bible’ approximately 1,300 years before the English King James ordered the translation of “the word of the LORD” based on the Textus Receptus which became the Holy Bible [KJV] of 1611 AD??????
      – I really do not understand what you are saying.

      Certainly – ‘Things that are different are not the same.’ – – – – – –

      My personal choice continues to be – that I will continue to believe specifically that “the only wise God” is able to perfectly preserve “the law” exactly and specifically as it is written in “the word of the LORD” in the Holy Bible [KJV], and I believe “the truth” written by the Prophet Amos in 3:3 [KJV]
      “Can two walk together, except they be agreed?”
      .

  • Mike savage

    After posting that, I thought that I should have clarified my comment. The KJV and NKJV, and in fact most modern translations today, are descended from the half pagan half Christian bible that Constantine ordered created at Nicea. He didn’t directly create the KJV. Most modern translations contain the same mistranslations, such as ecclesia, which means people or congregation. Your KJV, as did Constantine’s bible, says church where ecclesia was the original word. A direct mistranslation. Originally, the word stauros was used to describe the instrument of Jesus’ murder. It translates into only two words in English: stake, pole. It was a single piece of upright tree, and the contemporaries called it a torture stake. Jesus didn’t die on a cross, yet the bible of Constantine, as well as the KJV says cross. The cross has been and still is a pagan symbol. It’s also an object of worship, an idol. Religions are to blame for most of the things like this. Galations says that all sects/divisions/denominations are works of the flesh. Revelation says they will all be destroyed. It is for those reasons, and many many more, that I have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with any man made religion (and they’re all man made, except what Jesus taught)because they all teach things other than God’s accurate word, and they all teach things different from all other religions. I instead, rely solely on the word of God the Almighty. Take you King James Bible, and count the instances of God’s PERSONAL name, not His title which is God or Lord. Originally it appears 7,000 times. KJV has it zero times. God Himself admonishes us in His inspired word to know and USE His name all the time, and if we don’t know what it is, how can that be done?

  • Mike savage

    No, Moses’ original scrolls don’t exist to my knowledge. But many scrolls DO exist that are original, or were copied contemporarily. Accuracy, however, is crucial.

    2 May undeserved kindness and peace be increased to you by an accurate knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 for his divine power has granted us all the things that contribute to life and godly devotion through the accurate knowledge of the One who called us by his own glory and virtue. 4 Through these things he has granted us the precious and very grand promises, so that through these you may become sharers in divine nature, having escaped from the world’s corruption produced by wrong desire.

  • hi guys ♥

  • hi huys ♥

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