Ashamed Of The Name – Campus Crusade For Christ Changes Name, Drops ‘Christ’

The 60-year-old evangelical ministry announced its new name at a staff conference in Fort Collins, Colo., on Tuesday (July 19), saying the old name had become problematic. ...
"Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." 1 John 4

Ashamed of The Name of Jesus

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first…” 2 Thessalonians 2:3

(NOTE: The day this story was published, we posted it to their Facebook page as a witness. They then banned and deleted NTEB and everyone else who did not like the new name of Cru, and are only allowing comments that line up with the new name. That way they can falsely make it look like everyone agrees with their position.)

It has been well said that it is not how strong you run when you start, it’s how finish. Billy Graham started like a house on fire when he hit the scene in 1947, yet by 1978 he was doubting the existience of Hell and thinking that lost people who don’t know Jesus could still go to Heaven. Now we have the latest victim in the great coming apostasty, Bill Bright’s Campus Crusade for Christ. Only that’s not their name anymore.

So what did they change it to?

They now wish to be known as Cru. Really? When they called themselves Campus Crusade For Christ, you knew exactly what their mission was, where it’s focus was, and in Whose Name they operated. Now with ‘Cru’, a meaningless, nonsensical babble of a name, it could be anything. And maybe in our age of the Laodicean church, that’s the point.

When you read the story below, you will see that they go through a huge song and dance of how its really the word “crusade” they wanted to get rid of . Really? If thats true, why did the name of Christ get tossed in the garbage, too?  Ho, ho, ho…go kid your grandma.

“Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” Mark 8:38

The 60-year-old evangelical ministry announced its new name at a staff conference in Fort Collins, Colo., on Tuesday (July 19), saying the old name had become problematic.

“We’ve been having issues with two words in the name — campus and crusade,” said Steve Sellers, a vice president who oversees the ministry’s U.S. operations, in an interview.

Though the Orlando, Fla.-based organization began on campuses in 1951, it has expanded to more than two dozen ministries focused on topics such as families, athletes, the military and inner cities.

When Campus Crusade was founded by the late Bill Bright and his wife Vonette, the word “crusade” typically referred to the large, stadium events held by evangelists like Billy Graham.

“In today’s culture it carries more weight in terms of its historic meaning,” Sellers said, with people thinking “more to the days of the Crusaders and dealing with the Middle East as opposed to a positive use of the word.”

Cru isn’t the only religious organization that has moved away from “crusade.” Wheaton College, Graham’s alma mater in Illinois, changed its mascot from Crusaders to Thunder in 2000. Graham’s son Franklin leads “festivals” instead of crusades, and his grandson Will holds “celebrations.”

Most recently, Crusader Lutheran Church in Rockville, Md., changed its name to Living Faith Lutheran Church out of concern that the old name had “militaristic” and “non-Christian” overtones. Sellers said the Crusade-to-Cru change is part of that trend. “We don’t want the words that we use to get in the way of the message that we have,” he said.
source – Washington Post

Hmmm, they don’t want the “words that we use to get in the way of the message that we have”, eh? Well, now that you have dropped the Name of Jesus, you no longer have a message, a ministry, or a reason for being.

Another one bites the dust….

(NOTE: The day this story was published, we posted it to their Facebook page as a witness. They then banned and deleted NTEB and everyone else who did not like the new name of Cru, and are only allowing comments that line up with the new name. That way they can falsely make it look like everyone agrees with their position.)

 

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  • It is a shame that in today’s political world that those who know the Word of God and still “choose” to deny Jesus. It is the great apostasy.
    So many “Rick Warren” followers removing crosses from their churches, taking away sermons about sin and separation so as not to “offend”.
    God was not worried about offending when he called a spade a spade and called sin what it is… an abomination. God I ask that you give me and those that believe in You strength to stand for You until the very end, give us insight into the liars and deceivers. AMEN

  • MY BLOOD PRESSURE JUST WENT UP. I HOPE THAT EVERY CHRISTIAN JAMS THEIR PHONE LINES WITH THEIR DISBELIEF AND THOUGHTS OF THIS DEMONIC INSPIRED ( YES SATAN HEADS THIS APOSTASY) DECISION OF THEIRS,,
    DONT THEY YET KNOW THAT IT IS THE NAME OF JESUS THAT HAS THE POWER TO DRAW THRU THE HOLY SPIRIT THOSE SEEKING CHANGE AND DELIVERANCE? 60 YRS OF BLESSING AND NOW THEY WILL GO DOWN IN CONFUSION AND CHAOS AS SATAN LAUGHS AT HOW EASY IT WAS TO DECEIVE THEM. HORRIBLE NEWS..
    CHRISTIAN BRO AND SISTERS GET OUT THERE , WRITE YOUR OWN TRACTS , KEEEP IT SIMPLE AND INCLUDE THE SINNERS PRAYER , PLACE THEM ANYWHERE THAT SOMEONE MIGHT READ IT AND KICK OLD SLEWFOOT WHERE IT HURTS (SOULS)

  • Amen Sister Janna!

  • How many more are going to cave in to PC, Political Correctness? We look around and observe consessions in the church…gay clergy, gay marraige, abortion, merging of services with Muslims and other non-believers. We, indeed, are living in the last days.. Stay true to His Word! God bless…

  • The sadness that I feel in my heart is so great and even greater as I read the other posts from the other website by those who call themselves christian that have bought into these great lies and deceptions of satan.. I have been watching “The Great Awakening ” by Pastor Howard Rodney Browne on christian tv (CTN] . i copied the gospel script or I write my own and leave them on the windshieds of cars . I have been especially motivated to go to the spanish speaking communities that have set up actual shrines to the mother of God Mary,! I think we can all do something like this to reach the lost,

  • I just got blocked for a day for posting Scriptures on a “Christian” site. What kind of “Christian” does not need Scriptures or would complain about it??

    • Thanks for the article and the responses from everybody. @Kathy I was wondering what do you mean you got “blocked” for a day for posting Scriptures? Can you say what site? Just curious what happened.

  • People please. Leave these people alone. Never been a part of CCC, but know many that they have reached. I like the name CRU. Relevancy matters when you get out of the four walls of your little 30 member churches. Jesus was one of the most relelvant members of his culture. Thats how he reached people. As long as their name is not contradictory to what they do and if what they do is effective at reaching people and loving them with/to the gospel, I don’t see why you’ve got your choir robes in a bunch. Go find a building committee or a committee on committees to serve on. Or what ever totally irrelevant thing you calll a ministry and let these people do thier thing

    • Cru-laid drinker. Don’t drink the Crulaide.

  • Todd its not about the name Cru its about the godless secular means used to reach the lost. ,Its about the fact that Christ name was removed from the title of name of the ministry which quite obviously had brought them great blessing as Christs name was exalted!!. . God loves His Son, and In His Name is healing , deliverance and fellowship.. By revealing that they dont want to “offfend” anyone shows that they are not afraid of offending the very Christ that their ministry was built on..Personally I think maybe it wouldnt hurt for you to wrap yourself up in a choir robe and sing out praises instead and maybe reflect a little about how satan has made inroads into the hearts of true christians who are not grounded and sold out for Christ who dont find this as a great offence to their Saviour Jesus Christ.

  • Whats bad is so many here saying you love Yeshua (Jesus) yet lie. Well what is shown at the top? “ASHAMED OF THE NAME” .. this is what NOWTHEENDBEGINS thinks. This site never talked to them and is just COPY AND PASTING from some where else.

    I am not saying this is good or bad but just read .. some things being SAID are all MADE UP .. if the NEW Cru never said any such things does not this = a lie?

    And a site that uses the name Jesus yet NEVER says.. BROTHERS AND SISTERS lets pray for CRU they NEED US! No its “ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST” This is what JESUS would say?

    You LOVE them, YOU forgive THEM! Now lets PRAY for them for our enemy is working HARD for he never sleeps. So lets PRAY for them. SHow the world JESUS.

    And in the name of Jesus NOWTHEENDBEGINS stop posting a lie with truth. Saying something that you KNOW as not said is a lie. Or when we do this we partake of the reward the wicked get.

  • I agree! Another one bites the dust!

  • Paul said “I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. The Book of Eph. Chapter 6 tells us to put on the whole armor so that we may “stand”. What do we teach those who desire to come to know a Savior. We preach Christ and Him crucified. Dr. Adrain Rogers knew Bill Bright very well and I know He is shaking his head right now in heaven. And one day we will all give an account, before the one who paid the price, the one who became “our” substitute, the second person in the trinity. We had a debt we could not pay, but He paid the price He did not owe. I thank Him for all He has done for me. He know the very thought and intent of our hearts. Jesus Christ is the only one who came make us clean before our Heavenly Father.

  • Danny you are soooo right we must pray about this!!!
    Misty Edwards said Im in Love with God and Gods in love with me and this is who I am and this is who I’ll be and that settles it!! COMPLETELY!!!! I will not be offended when its all coming down!!!! JESUS WE LOVE YOU LORD!!!!!

  • John 5:24 (New King James Version)

    Life and Judgment Are Through the Son

    24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

    Acts 4:12 (New King James Version)

    12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

    Galatians 1:7-10 (New King James Version)

    7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
    10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ

    John 8:24 (New King James Version)

    24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”

    Isaiah 53:5 (New King James Version)

    5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
    He was bruised for our iniquities;
    The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
    And by His stripes we are healed.

    “NO CROSS? NO BLOOD? NO HEAVEN – ANY QUESTIONS???”

    EVERY SINGLE BLOOD-BOUGHT, BORN AGAIN BELIEVER IS CALLED TO BE AN AMBASSADOR FOR CHRIST…. 2 COR. 5:20, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN TAKE THE SAVING MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL TO THOSE WHO ARE LOST AND ON THE EDGE OF ETERNITY WITH EVERY PASS-
    ING HEARTBEAT AND BREATH THAT THEY TAKE…..WE MAY
    NOT BE ORDAINED MINISTERS AND SUCH, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN BE FAITHFUL TO GOD AND HIS WORD AND TO THE GREAT COMMISION THAT HAS BEEN ENTRUSTED TO US BY JESUS HIMSELF……

  • “CRU” is totally MEANINGLESS….and totally STUPID….and it is ALL about caving in to and CATERING to ISLAM — A G A I N !

    THERE IS ** N O T H I N G * WRONG with CAMPUS CRUSADE FOR CHRIST and this latest compromise is just another sell-out to appease islam and the p.c. gestapo types on the left…..ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE!!!!!

    If it isn’t one thing, the world will find some other excuse that they have to “discourage” and even “ban” any kind of CHRISTIAN WITNESSING out in public, where someone JUST might get “offended” by the TRUTH….OHHH MYYYY!!

    WE are NOT here in this world to win a popularity contest with the world…we are here to tell the lost about their only hope of salvation before it is too late….The WORLD does not want to hear about eternity, let alone repentance…..and
    so they come up with all this p.c. nonsense to try and intimidate people from speaking out, whether politically, or
    as BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS…… Angels are NOT going to come down here and witness to the lost….It is OUR job and
    OUR responsibility to WITNESS and be FAITHFUL to the Word of God, regardless of who’s “OFFENDED”!!!

    The world – those Left Behind – are going to have a whole lot of other PROBLEMS to deal with besides the fact that they are OFFENDED by the TRUTH when they find out what the TRIBULATION is going to be all about…Many will WISH that they could be “offended” by someone wanting to share the gospel with them then…..

    2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (New King James Version)

    10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

  • Mark 8:38 “If anyone is ashamed of me and my message in these adulterous and sinful days, the Son of Man will be ashamed of that person when he returns in the glory of his Father with the holy angels” . So fellow Christians carry the name of Christ with you proudly and never be ashamed to proclaim yourself a Christian to anyone.

  • How about Campuses for Christ? I am all for getting rid of the ‘crusade’ as historically the Crusaders were cruel to true Christians, killing them for not converting to Romanism. But it is surely no time to be getting away from Christ, He is the only Way, Truth and Life!!

    • you do understand that crusades have been come to be known as evangelistic campaigns for a hundred years, and that God has chosen to draw millions of Christians to Him at evangelistic Crusades? You realize that there was no opposition to this until two things happened. 1. We started being afraid of what Islam thought of us. 2. Liberals used the opportunity to attack George bush’s use of teh word in connection with 9/11. To millions of Christians, a crusade is an evangelistic campaign where millions of people have been gloriously converted.


  • Miss Kathleen Craigie:

    If it isn’t one thing, the world will find some other excuse that they have to “discourage” and even “ban” any kind of CHRISTIAN WITNESSING out in publicp>

    That’s a simple one: Sharia Law

  • The name Cru makes me think of a pimped out Oldsmobile bouncing along the street to the tunes of Ice-T

  • Sorry brothers, but you are over reacting. As you see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade, the crusades are military campaigns, and that term is not in the Bible, so we can´t assume it´s a sin if those brothers in Christ change that antibiblical name to another more Biblical, like celebration. I like this page, but i feel recently is going too far, trying to find the devil everywhere, even where he is not. Is someone offended? let me ask, did Jesus say “Crusade” anytime? does the Bible? So, if they change it, why is that shame on Jesus´ name?

    • totally missed the point. The point was about “Christ”. did you know that?

  • wow! there are a lot of cautions in the Bible about how we treat each other and talk about each other. this article and the general flow of comments seems very quick to accuse and condemn … is that how we lift up high the Name of Jesus?!?! you might want to check out their website and see what they said about the name change and you may want to read 1Cor 13 again among many others.


    • ?????:

      Sorry brothers, but you are over reacting. As you see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade, the crusades are military campaigns, and that term is not in the Bible, so we can´t assume it´s a sin if those brothers in Christ change that antibiblical name to another more Biblical, like celebration. I like this page, but i feel recently is going too far, trying to find the devil everywhere, even where he is not. Is someone offended? let me ask, did Jesus say “Crusade” anytime? does the Bible? So, if they change it, why is that shame on Jesus´ name?

      ????? and Robin –

      The problem discussed here is not the removal of the word crusade… it is the name of Jesus that Robin is saying should be lifted high. That is the very case that is being made here. They should be lifting high the name of Jesus, not removing it like has commercially been done with Christmas. What would be wrong with Campuses for Christ, as another individual has pointed out?

      • Furthermore, their argument is that crusade needed to be taken out – yet PART of the word “crusade” is all that is left.

    • And you may want to stop upbraiding fellow Christians your own self. Just saying…

  • I think I will find another ministry to support financially. A ministry with the word “Christ” in it. Or maybe Greg Laurie’s “Harvest Crusade”.

  • All I can say is I see alot more of Gods work in the government today then I did yesterday because I opened my eyes read these two articles and let me know what you think

    http://www.examiner.com/evangelical-in-minneapolis/synergy

    http://www.examiner.com/evangelical-in-minneapolis/gods-grace-judgement

  • No Balls. Sorry if its crude to you. A bit crude for formal talk. But thats where U.S. christianity is. We’re always cowtowing to the Left. The Left?!? Try, The Mainstream, including FoxNews.
    Churches, the Clock’s been ticking since 1948 and y’all won’t get off your 50c3-PO duffs!!
    The Church doesn’t need government welfare.
    As it stands, THE CHURCH, ecclessia, THE CALLED OUT ones for Christ, better use soapboxes. The churches are having minimal to nil in bringing souls to Jesus.
    Bill Bright brought the Gospel home. My home. Your home.
    Let’s roll!

  • I have been surfing here for a couple of months now and I have read a lot of comments on a lot of subjects.

    I read the article about the name change and at first I was shocked but if you really look at what was said after your initial shock you might see that its not the name change that bothered me so much as it was they did not seek wise councle or the councle of the Holy Spirit. They looked to a advertisiment firm who did a survey.
    And the suvey says____________.
    I have always applauded what Bill Bright has done but you have to remember that he is no longer here and if he was I beleive he would seek the leadership of the Holy Spirit.

    I do think it is a sorry state of things when we are afraid to proclaim the name of Christ for political correctness.

    Lord forgive us all……….
    TJ

  • Get over it. There’s nothing in that article(which was horribly biased)that says that Cru is changing their ministry, it doesn’t say that they aren’t going to be telling people about Christ, it doesn’t say that they’re changing or toning down their message. All it says is that they are modernizing their name. It’s just a name.

    To all of those who are judging Cru, or those that run it, to all of those who are calling them horrible names, and saying that they’re no longer Christians because they changed the name of their ministry, remember a couple of other passages of Scripture:

    “Judge not, so that you will not be judged”
    “Love God with all of your heart, mind and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself.”
    “True religion that is acceptable to God is this: feed the hungry and care for the widows and orphans.”

    Stop worrying about someone else’s walk people. Worry about your own. Slamming your brothers and sisters sure as heck isn’t going to win anyone to Christ – regardless of what you call yourself. Our petty bickering and infighting is why many who are lost would prefer to stay that way.

    • two questions: 1. You really believe that changing a name you have held for 60 years is not an organizational change? (I have a bridge for sale) 2. Don’t you see that you are judging the folks who disagree?

  • What a Blessing This Truly Is…
    Now Believers Can see What this groups agenda really is and verily who they serve.

    The Bible tells us in Mark 13:6″ for many shall come in my name, saying I AM the [Christ]; and shall deceive many.

    We were warned long ago by The Messiah
    We should be diligent in knowledge & faith.

    Please Pray For our Brothers & Sisters who still to this day are martyred for our faith…

    And Advise Those Who have gone astray, in loving kindness to repent and sin no more.

    For The Kingdom of GOD is at Hand
    Matt 4:17

  • actually, hmmm, you are right. I argue that “Crusade” is not from the bible, and that´s the only thing left. I hate to admit it, but you are right. DcY4r: thx.

  • I wonder if CRU has fruits that would pass inspection.

  • THANK YOU LORD FOR SEEING OUR FRAILTY IN HUMAN FORM WE SEEE THROUGH ROSE COLORED GLASSES BUT YET WE KNOW THAT WE WILL WIN IN THE END BECAUSE OF WHOM YOU ARE,,WAS,, AND IS!!!! FOREVERMORE–NO MATTER WHAT WE THINK OR KNOW–THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT–WHICH IS THE WORD–WILL TRIUMPH OVER ALL!!

  • Ok I just checked out their website and they aren’t deleting people or banning them for not agreeing with the name change. Their ministry is still ALL about JESUS. I don’t understand what the problem is. Jesus is all over that page. All over that ministry. I didn’t find one place where it says you can get to heaven any other way. Are we burying our wounded now? What’s the deal? If they’re making a mistake take it up with them at the table dudes.

    • They banned me and deleted my posts exactly that reason so you are wrong. Now call me a liar, goes right along with their tactics on this.

  • and i have NEVER heard Billy Graham say that there was any other way to heaven accept through Christ. You’ll need to come up with some evidence for that.

    • Have you been out of the country? How about a video of him saying exactly that on an Hour Of Power broadcast?

    • I’ll make it easier. A direct quote from the show:

      They may not even know the name of Jesus, but they know in their hearts they need something that they don’t have and they turn to the only light they have and I think they’re saved and they’re going to be with us in heaven.”

  • Being a Jew who has known Jesus Christ for 32 years, I have to say that dropping the word, “crusade,” is not a bad idea. In fact, as a new believer in college in the 80s, I cringed a little when I heard that word. “Crusade has had a negative connotation for as long as the Crusades have been part of history. However, there is no excuse for dropping “Christ” from the mix. In fact, “Cru” keeps half of the word, “crusade” IN the title, while dropping the entire name of Christ. Why not “Cause for Christ?” or “Initiative for Christ..” or “People for Christ?” That they dropped His name, altogether, is very, very, VERY sad.

    • Precisely the point I’ve been trying to make… nice!

  • Thank you Kathleen Craigie (#15) you actually hit it right on the head,, Thats whats its really all about.. Hide the name of Christ yet continue the ministry and then hide the ministry behind more PC ness..think its not coming? to those that dont see this pray for discenment that your prayers will hit bulls eye,

  • To all those who think that dropping the name Christ in their title is ok, then please consider dropping your last name or your first name, and ask people if they know who you identify with, or who you are. The name should tell people who you identify with and who you are. If an organization decides to drop part of their name, then that should tell us that they no longer desire to be identified in that manner.

  • Also, lets consider dropping anything in our church names that has to do with Christ, and we can all just say we go to a church, which has a basic meaning of “A GATHERING TOGETHER OF PEOPLE WITH A COMMON PURPOSE FOR WORSHIP.” What we gonna worship today folks? Since we dropped Christ, let’s worship a foreign deity…or a tree, or how about each other?

  • Ask yourselves a few questions. 1.Specifically who is offended by the word crusade? Answer: Muslims and unbelieving liberals who hate the work of Christ. 2. What is the new name (cru) obviously short for, in spite of their disingenuous denial? Answer: Crusade. 3. What did the name “crusade” come from and what did it mean (before the Christ hating muslims and unbelieving liberals decided to suddenly become oh so very offended)? At least as far back as 1938, when a European believer founded European Evangelistic Crusade, crusades have been the name given to large evangelistic campaigns. Millions of people worldwide have come to Christ through God’s working through these evangelistic Crusades. My own mother came to Christ at an evangelistic crusade. 4. When choosing to re-name a Christian organization, does anyone believe that the decision to not include “Christ,” when it was present for 60 years, was not intentional? Answer: I’ve go t a bridge to sell you. 5. Why are they suddenly so antagonistic to folks giving them honest opinion, when THEY asked for the discussion? Answer: They really only wanted folks to tell them how marvelous it is that they left Christ out of their new name. As for the opportunities to talk to people who they couldn’t reach with a more “Christian” name? really? Do we have to even entertain such foolishness? I suspect it is good they made this decision. In spite of their adamant denial that they have changed, isn’t it obvious that they believe “cru” is a better representation of their values, mission, and beliefs than ANY name that might be construed as Christian or contain the name of the One they profess to love so much? They should be ashamed.

  • Funny(?) This blog (the title) is not labeled with the name JESUS or CHRIST and look how people are here discussing … I’m certain that Christ is far more concerned with the message of your organization and what’s in the heart of each of its members that what TITLE you’ve given yourself. FOCUS on Jesus’s message…and live like you mean it. STOP arguing about something like a mere name. Satan is having a field day, not with the name change, but with how “Christians” are arguing about it.

    • This site didn’t take a step back. Christ never was part of this blog’s title. Campus Crusade For Christ took OUT the name of Christ so as, evidently, to make their message more ambiguous before people start to listen to them. It would be like KFC changing their name to “Fri.” If we didn’t all know about it, we’d be like, what!? What in the world do they serve at Fri? Furthermore, the whole reason that they “claim” that they changed the name is to get rid of the word crusade, and as I pointed out earlier, part of the very word they said they were trying to get rid of is all that is left, which points, logically, to them really having been trying to get rid of some other part of it, either campus – which what reason would they have to get rid of the word campus, or Christ – for reasons of political correctness. Tell me… as I have asked before… instead of trying to shift the argument to something else, why don’t you answer what they saw wrong with leaving their name the same and just taking out the word crusade as they said was their point – Campuses for Christ?

    • Sorry but I don’t agree……Christ is taken out of then name……I think Satan is thrilled. You take Christ out here and in 20 years what is taken out next….????

  • Well said Kathy – it’s sad how those of us who are supposed to be wearing the armor of God, and wielding the sword of the Spirit are spending all of this time polishing our armor and fighting each other. No wonder the world can’t see the Truth in our words, our actions keep getting in the way.

    PS My church is called Central Community Church does that mean it is not Christian because we don’t have the name Christ in it? And as for the person who said that i should just drop my last name or my first name…maybe not a bad idea, it’s worked out pretty well for Sade, Prince, Madonna, Cher and Usher.

    • Let me guess, you’re a fan of all those no-last namers you listed?

    • Yeah…Madonna and Prince (and those others) are people I want to be like, and raise my kids to emulate.

  • No, I was making a joke. See what happens when you assume. And, if you’d like to split hairs over the issue, Jesus’ last name was not Christ. Christ is a title. He would have probably had the last name Bar Joseph. So should the ministry be called Campus Crusade for Yeshua bar Joseph? Worry about the big things, friend…and work out your own salvation(with fear and trembling)and work on mine.

    • Thanks for pointing that out, captain obvious, but the whole point of Jesus Christ is that he is Jesus THE Christ, THE Messiah, not just another “teacher.” The whole point is is that if they once went with Christ in their name pointing out clearly what they were about, why take it out and make it more ambiguous as to what they are about. I invite you to respond to my response above to Kathy. As for the see what happens when I assume, it was a guess, not an assumption, and a guess based on the fact that such secular references come to your mind so quickly when such individuals don’t even cross my mind as I don’t partake of secular music or television. As for it being a joke… you need to work on your sense of humor as it was pretty lame, just to be open and straightforward on the issue.

      • I want to point out a couple of things regarding this whole situation with the previous title “Campus Crusade For Christ” being reduced (with Christ being eliminated from the title) to “Cru”.

        First of all, just think about the previous title. It’s more than just a few words, it’s a suggested ACTION, stating what they claim to do. Taking Christ out of the title is more than just His name being removed, but stating the act is no longer there, either. If the title previously stated something they supposedly did for Christ, then according to the new title, that’s not what they do. Seriously, read each of the words slowly to see what I mean. “Campus…. Crusade…. For…. Christ”. With the new title, they’re not ‘obligated’ to fulfil anything. Of course, if they took Christ out of it (which is an issue with multiple issues growing from it), it was a decision they made that clearly changes their course of action. I mean, “Cru”…? Cru what? The name means nothing now. Not suggesting or even a hint of what they are.

        Second, to those of you who think it’s ridiculous to care about whether Christ is in a name or not. It’s a matter of addition and subtraction. If you begin with a title that has meaning, but doesn’t directly say ‘Jesus’, ‘Christ’, ‘God’, or whatever else, that’s an entirely different issue than from beginning with such a title and removing the name of Christ. This expresses something deeper than merely a ‘name change’. It sounds like it’s fear-based, or shame-based, one or the other. No serious Christian group would take Christ out of it. Bottom line.


  • Nomad:

    Thanks for pointing that out, captain obvious, but the whole point of Jesus Christ is that he is Jesus THE Christ, THE Messiah, not just another “teacher.” The whole point is is that if they once went with Christ in their name pointing out clearly what they were about, why take it out and make it more ambiguous as to what they are about. I invite you to respond to my response above to Kathy. As for the see what happens when I assume, it was a guess, not an assumption, and a guess based on the fact that such secular references come to your mind so quickly when such individuals don’t even cross my mind as I don’t partake of secular music or television. As for it being a joke… you need to work on your sense of humor as it was pretty lame, just to be open and straightforward on the issue.

    This was my post, as my wife was still logged in from a post she had posted (she usually doesn’t do anything on here, so I neglected to think about changing the u/n). The second post from “Nomad” actually was her as she wanted to point out a couple of things that I fully agree with… simply wanted to clarify any potential misunderstanding.

  • Also, Jason… one more thing… could you please tell me what “Cru” stands for?

    • I mean, the meaning of the word, “Cru,” not what the organization itself says it stands for.

      • It couldn’t possibly stand for “crusade,” right? I mean, being that that word was the very word they were trying to get rid of because of the “negative history connotations” when they also felt they had to drop the name of Christ out of their title.

  • political correctness clearly shows the tares from the wheat

  • the Editors note is false. There are plenty of negative comments on their facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/campuscrusade ) and on their website
    http://www.ccci.org/about-us/campus-crusade-for-christ-announces-name-change/index.htm#comment-260740638

    Most of the feedback on the website is negative. No one is claiming everyone agrees.

  • DCY4R i couldnt have said it better..thank you …Campus Crusade for Christ has history.. you dont delete the Powerful name of Christ from the name that has made history and what the ministry became to be. i am under the suspicion that to avoid
    “offending” anyone ( athiests, Islam etc???) they will also begin to delute the message.. it wil take some time but i fear that is the direction that they are heading..and they will not get my financial support.

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    Without the christ its just a crusade… for what?

  • For a long time I have been giving most of my tithes to Campus Crusade, but with this removal of the name Christ I will never support them or any ministry associated with them. This is a sign of the end times we are living now, the apostasy, the falling away.

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